1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Hey, it's another episode against the Chronicles podcast and now 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: I am big still with my dog. Hey, you know 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: I just heard fresh off the presses man your boy 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Tyler period on mess around and bought bt mmm he 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: could check. 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 2: That's a big bag. I don't know how. 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: Much he bought it for, too billy plus and that 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: voice you hear in the background that came in. We 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: got a special guest today as the homeboy, Alonzo. Y'all 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: noticed over the past few weeks. You know, we had 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: a little bit of dialogue. It's just a little bit, 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: just a little bit of dialogue. We still well, we 13 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: still welcome our people's to the show man. So you know, 14 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: y'all give it up for Lionzo. Yes, indeed, how much. 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: You think he paid for I was like right up 16 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 3: right around too big and doc right around I heard. 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 3: I was the whole conversation on the way over here. 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 3: Two billion, too big, right about too big? 19 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: That's man, what you got over there? 20 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: Alarms going to turn this guy theamn watch y'all, I 21 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: turn my phone off. The guy didn't watch it. 22 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not fancy. I don't know. I ain't never 23 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: talking to like Dick Tracy and yeah, you. That's like 24 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: my son, man, My son is with all that technology 25 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: and ship. I'm I'm still spending my ship back and ship. 26 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: One thing about these phone companies, they stay with some 27 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: success reasons ship to charge the motherfucker. My wife's hit 28 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: me one day, said, oh, they got the Apple Watch 29 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: on sale, can you give me one? I said, what's 30 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: the Apple Watch? I guess she'd be on her phone. 31 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, they like fucking like, what's the old school Dick Tracy. Yeah, 32 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: there you go, that's Dick Tracy. Like a motherfucker, get 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: smart on the motherfucker around here. 34 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: She will start talking. 35 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so ship. So Tyler Perry, Yeah, Tyler Perry bought him. Man, 36 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: I wonder what you go see because it seemed like, 37 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, I applaud man any brother man that is 38 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: built what he built because I first heard when my 39 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: mama was still living in Cleveland. That's the first time 40 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: I heard of Tyler Perry. She had a bunch of 41 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: VHS tapes with these he was doing on there, and 42 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: I saw her, my auntie and even my wife, they 43 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: was all captivated by this shit. And I said, man, 44 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: this dude got something going. So just seeing a brother 45 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: come from where he come from being homeless to owning 46 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: a major network. Now, you know, it's crazy, man. Whether 47 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: you like his movies or not, you know what I mean, 48 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: you still got to applaud. 49 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: Brother because I'm not a fan of the movies. I'm 50 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: a fan of the struggle and the hustle and to 51 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: come up. And you know, he came from you know what, 52 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: living in his car and all that shit. So the 53 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: the climb is is a you know, I applaud him 54 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: on his success, but I'm not a fan of the 55 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: I've never really sat down and watched the Tyler Perry movie. 56 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: Now I'm a little different. I like his movies. If 57 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: you want to get high and have a good ass laugh, 58 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: watch his movies. But I can't watch his TV shows. Okay, 59 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 3: I cannot watch I tried it. 60 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: There's a difference between the different Okay, I. 61 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: Think they get it. They like points like he go 62 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: to scenario, just make as shit as you go because 63 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: you're one character, take forever the stakes. 64 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: Sure. 65 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: The thing is, if you've seen one, you kind of 66 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: seen them all. I just seen them all. You kind 67 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: of seen them all because it's the same narrative. It's 68 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: a black woman on there that's mad about something, either 69 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: her seated on or something. It's a villainous ass ex boyfriend, 70 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: and it's a simply to come in and say today 71 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: they wound up getting into a fight. 72 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 3: With the dude they want. They always in a small 73 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 3: ass town somewhere and they probably gonna let you slides 74 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 3: it into the goddamn movie. 75 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: So do you feel his movies make us look fucked 76 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: up as a black man? 77 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 3: He got some movies that that does make us look 78 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: fucked up. But now I know that when he plays 79 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: in the movies himself, not as madea like that one 80 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: movie he did he was it was a good, solid movie. 81 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: I forgot the name of it. It was, uh he 82 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: saved he up marrying this chick that was homeless with 83 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: a daughter, and shit, that was a good damn anyway, 84 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: Yeah he got He got some movies on both sides 85 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: of the fence, and keep it the one hundred. That's 86 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: that movie called Man, God Damn Alex something Man. Are 87 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: you a fan Alice Cross? Thank you, Alice Cross. 88 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm a fan of him as a person. His struggling 89 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: stuff the movies is cool. Or you know, I ain't 90 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: mad at the movies I watch him something like you said, 91 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: when you're sitting up smoking the joint of something and 92 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: you just chilling. They cool to watch because my wife 93 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: liked the motherfuckers, so she she watched him, and you 94 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: was gota wind up watching. We all wind up watching 95 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: what our women like to watch. Right, you know what 96 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I don't be arguing I. 97 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: Don't like to watch. I don't like to watch what 98 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: the woman like to watch. You don't watch TV with 99 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: your girl? No, see you a whole nigga. No, I 100 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: don't know how you get away with that. That's why 101 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: we got That's why it's That's why it's bedrooms with 102 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 2: TVs because usually I'm in the other room watching what 103 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 2: I want to watch. I don't want to watch some 104 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: Lifetime program or you know, some some women be watching 105 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: some crazy shit man. So yeah, I stick to my 106 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 2: sports at ESPN or some new shit. I don't watch 107 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 2: no fucking w They gonna be turning around looking at 108 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 2: you weird and shit after the program go off, and shit, 109 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: well fuck that shit. 110 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: Let me make sure we were let me make sure 111 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: we were reporting on things accurately. This is what they said. 112 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of speculation about who would eventually 113 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: purchase the Beet brand from Perrymont Global, it appears big 114 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: in their filmmaker studio owner Tyler Perry is the front 115 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: runner to be BET's next owner. Over the last several months, 116 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: multiple individuals have expressed interest in buying BT. Hip hop 117 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: artists Moguls, Diddy and fifty Cent were named as potential buyers. 118 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: A new report from The Streamer claims Perry would take 119 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: control of BT Media for an undisclosed amount. Perry previously 120 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: signed a motor year joint venture between Tyler Perry's Studios 121 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: and BT streaming service BT Productions. Oho, my things just 122 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: cut out, But anyway, he's buying it. Man, you know, 123 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: fifty three years old. Man, this man went from being 124 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: homeless to buying a major, a major, major piece of 125 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: black intellectual property. And I and I think it's dope 126 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: that we keeping the black man. I applaud that brother. Man. 127 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think he's the greatest filmmaking the world. 128 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: He's got a lot better, right, But I applauded dog. 129 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: This dude on his own studios in Atlanta. That place 130 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: is in Prencipe head. Had hein't doing this motherfucking thing. 131 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: He's definitely a trail blazer, as were you Loneso, because 132 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: I know you you like playing with the NWA acronym. 133 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: Not without lines, yes, indeed, not. 134 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: Without LINESO Lonzo said, wouldn't nobody NWA. 135 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 4: See mwew I did say, CMW C MW n W 136 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 4: A C I A and a bunch of other initials 137 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 4: and little to loaks and shit wouldn't be here, wouldn't 138 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 4: be doing what they doing. 139 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: So you had a oh I came down today, man, he. 140 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: Came down to the Loneso said he wasn't having today, 141 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: he said, not without Loneso, not without lines. 142 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: A lot of niggas came through uh Lonzo's presence as 143 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: far as you know, uh that that door. As far 144 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: as getting a they what do I want to say, 145 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: getting a shot into the music biz, because there was 146 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: not a lot of fucking West Coast artists here before 147 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: you know, Lonzo, the Recon Crew and shit. I couldn't 148 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: even name nobody before then if you asked me. 149 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: Came out right. 150 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: I listened to Todd because you know, Todd was from 151 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: my neighborhood. He was from Tragnew So Todd had TDK tapes. 152 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: That's where I knew Todd from. I knew Recon Crew 153 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: from Surgery to twelve inch. That's why I got introduced 154 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: to the Recon Crew. But as far as records, all 155 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: I knew was y'all. As far as putting out records, 156 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: were you Egypt Unknown had Techno how he was putting 157 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: out you know, based records and the first fucking uh 158 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: Ice Tea records. Then you had fucking dream Team and 159 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: in Rockberry Jam and all of that. So that ship 160 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: right there was all because we were all. 161 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: Dance promoters, all DJs. The whole era, the whole generation 162 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: was totally different. Back then, all we did was gave 163 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: dances and chase chicks. That's all we did. 164 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: So that's why your music kind of was. 165 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 3: That's why we were That's why we had Jerry Carroll, 166 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 3: That's why we had them, SUSO were trying to get 167 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: laid and have some fun. Okay, let me ask you one. 168 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 3: It's just one thing I want to know, bro, what 169 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 3: was up with the air with all the we got 170 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: this ship from Tour de France. Man, that ship was 171 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: the hottest shit in the club at the time. Man, 172 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: look at craft work, all meet Rerecord Crew egypt A 173 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 3: lot of our it was dance Dance Records, the Record 174 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: Crew Egyptian lover fucking out of New York, Uh soul 175 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: sohnic Force. That was the ship that and vocoders Okay, 176 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: the mechanical ship. That's all that was a that was 177 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 3: the musical sound that was like that was like our 178 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: fucking version of goddamn auto tune. Okay, it was like that. 179 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: That was that was for that era. Okay. Everybody has 180 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: something they do different in every era. And for the dance, 181 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: for the dance sets at that time, everybody was breathing 182 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 3: on their records. Okay. The nigga had asked, well, he 183 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 3: couldn't make a mother fucking record. Okay, that's what the 184 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: damn sure sound like the thing in the back wrong. 185 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: And see. 186 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: If we got this year form like we got it 187 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 3: from craft work list the craft work. 188 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,599 Speaker 2: So when did you notice, as like you said, that 189 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: was your era, when did you feel and notice that 190 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: hip hop so to speak, started changing? 191 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 3: Hip hop started changing for us around eighty seven, eighty six, 192 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 3: eighty seven, because we started in eighty two. I started 193 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: in eighty two, but West Coast hip hop started changing 194 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 3: around eighty six eighty seven because we made turn off 195 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: the lights. That was around the same year that Dred 196 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: Radium left right after turn off the lights and formed 197 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: the NWA and y'all came up right behind them. So 198 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: it was like the late eighties and ice he had 199 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: already done his thing, but even then it hadn't it 200 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 3: hadn't officially changed over completely because we still was doing 201 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 3: dancings and shit. It was like we were in that 202 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 3: curve we you know that mix. You know, it's still 203 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 3: Nigga's still dancing, but they really started banging. They still dancing, 204 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: but they started banging, and all of a sudden they 205 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: stopped dancing and started banging. The whole thing just changed completely. 206 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 3: And even when we were going tour. First started going 207 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: on tour, all we played was R and B, R 208 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 3: and B groups. All it was record crew, rerecord crew, 209 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 3: fucking Mary Jane girls, more stay in the time ship 210 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 3: like that. Then around the second and third year we 211 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 3: started seeing Force Him D's and other acts like that. Okay, 212 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 3: because even though even though West cost even the East 213 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 3: Coast acts were doing more like an R and B thing, 214 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 3: you had to Force Him D's and even Cold Mo 215 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 3: d though he was a rapper, his music was R 216 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 3: with R and B music type. Okay, So by the 217 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: time my last tour with n W A, I never 218 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: forget it was n w A Eazy E just Ice 219 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: Uh and Ice T and World Class Record crew. We're 220 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: the headliner because turn up lights of the hottest record 221 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: of all this hit right Easy of them just starting up. 222 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: They we just broke up, but dre and yelling them 223 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 3: with Easy them and we on tour with all these gangsters. 224 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 3: So I'm like, Jerry, I'm telling you, because Erry Heller 225 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: was my manager, I'm like, dude, how are we on 226 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 3: the school? 227 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: This ain't gonna work for us. 228 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: Now we had the biggest song, wasn't nobody checking for Easy? 229 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 3: And then like that, just yet they were only getting 230 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 3: minimum wage fifteen hundred dollars. Now I'm getting seven eight grand, Okay, 231 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 3: iceed T still he's still was iced Tea. Oh he 232 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 3: always been Iced Tea. He getting a little bit little, 233 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 3: probably get the same money as I am. But because 234 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 3: I had the biggest record, I was considered to draw 235 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: at that time. But they had all these gangs to 236 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: acts on the show. And that's when the whole thing 237 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 3: changed for us because now you can't get laid after 238 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 3: the show no more. You got to fight. Oh god, Yah, 239 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 3: thing changed. 240 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: Huh. It was a lot of bullshiting the tour. 241 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 3: I was bullshit. Then by that time I picked up 242 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: battle Cat, Richie Rich and Mona Lisa to do turn 243 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: off Lights. So battle Cat was a young nineteen year 244 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 3: old kids straight out of the sixties rolling with me 245 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 3: on tour for the first time. 246 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 2: That's what I was wanna say. Who did you get 247 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: to replace Dre? And yelling? 248 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 3: Battle Cat was replacing Dre Richie Rich, he was with 249 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: the dream Team for a minute. And and uh, Mona Lisa, 250 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 3: who sang lovers in the first time. Uh, that's who 251 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: the song was written for in the first place, ended 252 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: up doing. Uh the song that Michele's parts. 253 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: Is that right? 254 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 3: So miss so when Dre left, michel A bounce too, 255 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 3: misch and they was never a part of the recond crew. 256 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 3: She was just like a feature work for hire type situation. 257 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: She was, you know, I watched her movie. I think 258 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: I called you because I was at home watching. 259 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: Her b I think her was on BT one of 260 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: the Lifetime movie one of them Lifetime and that motherfucker 261 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: I said they got the homie. I need to ask 262 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: them this ship true, he found her in the store. 263 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: Of all the ships, man, that was probably the biggest 264 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: lot I ever told all the ship I've ever done. 265 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: Niggas a lied on me in all kinds of ways. 266 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: They lied on me and Jesus all the time. And 267 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: they lied on me when they did Jesus. Okay, And 268 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: now she did work at a store, but I was 269 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: not walking through the goddamn store looking for a pair 270 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 3: of socks. We're fucking socks, man, I just showed you that. 271 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 3: For the god dam, I didn't even wear socks that much. 272 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 3: So they then they had me smoking cigarettes pacing outside 273 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 3: the studio waited for her to go off the bus. Man. 274 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 3: That's a bullshit. Anybody know any woman that worked with 275 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: me gonna get a ride to and from the goddamn studio. 276 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: And they had it like you was intervening in her 277 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: and Dre's I. 278 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: Ain't get dude, when they started fucking around, how don't 279 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 3: know they was sucking around. I didn't know they were 280 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: fucking around to after they left a whole different situation. 281 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: Dot. 282 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: So So let me ask you this line. So Dre 283 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: admitt her through your interactions up yeah studio. Okay, so cool. 284 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: I thought that might have been his chick or something 285 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: like that. 286 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: Big dude, dude. Mister Lee was like eighteen, she just 287 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 3: graduated high school, and uh she would come to the 288 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 3: studio hang out sometime, but she didn't hang out with 289 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: with the Fellers all the time. She was sometimes she 290 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 3: going the pad kicking with Rolls and uh uh dam 291 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 3: he was there. Yeah, yeah, Rose, he would be around 292 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: the path, yeah, roll because roll Yeah, that's right, you 293 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 3: had tiny That's right. 294 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: I forgot about that shut up lines. 295 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 3: He don't know. I'll tell you the nigga. I know 296 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 3: all the goddamn dirt. Okay, now you're gonna be you 297 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 3: fixed it that nasty. I didn't hit a nerve anyway. 298 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 4: Uh. 299 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: She was kicking in the pad a lot of times 300 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: and usually get I get up, either me or one 301 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: of the fellas get up and take her home. I 302 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: had no idea her and Dre had any kind of interaction. 303 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: So you never saw none of that. I like to 304 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: be careful on what you say, yeah, because I'll be 305 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: telling you about what you be giving your questions. I 306 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: don't want to. 307 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: Become that that type of messy ass podcast. You know 308 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: what I mean, putting out ship, you know, but. 309 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: Because we always got to keep his ass off for 310 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: certain ship, you know what I'm saying, Because he likes to, 311 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: you know, walk that thin line sometime. 312 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: The legs, the laserd abuse that was going on at 313 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: the time, you never saw, never saw something because I 314 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: know these movies have a ten. 315 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: That's a lifetime ship. Ship. Man. 316 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: I remember also at that time he might know what 317 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: I'm confident at that time at my house, nobody drank 318 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: sup or flipped him. I just see, I didn't see 319 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: no a ball till the nigga showed up. 320 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 2: The gangs. 321 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 3: Niggas come with a ball and all kind of ship. Okay, 322 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: Dre them didn't drink, they didn't. We didn't even smoke 323 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 3: weed or nothing. These youngsters bought all the bad habits. 324 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: In my house. We came with the gangster ship. 325 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: Was it a shock to you when you saw Dre 326 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: make that transition into doing the type of music he 327 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: was doing. 328 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the music was always good. 329 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: Okay. 330 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: I just was like I knew all the guys personally. 331 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: They never came off to me like that, you know 332 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. These guys were. They came up to 333 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 3: me cool, but they was I knew that, I knew 334 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: where they were from. They was different. I never saw 335 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: them do anything, but they had a different vibe about them. 336 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: I watched Dre, I knew Dre, I knew Cube, I 337 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 3: knew Yeller. I knew that, I knew they vibe was 338 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: totally different. So it kind of blew me away. They 339 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: gonna do what, Okay, cool if y'all buy it, they 340 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 3: sell it. Y'all buy it, get a receipt. 341 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: And go home. 342 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: I said, right there, Now, let me ask you this, 343 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: and this is about the business part. Because you were 344 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: signed the techno pop right like hop technical hop you was. 345 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: You were signing the techno hop. Yeah, was his stand 346 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: to practice back then because he wasn't signed the CMWO, 347 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: wasn't signed to you outside of the one project. But 348 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: it can almost be misconstrue this exploitation kind of because 349 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: they took you know, like Unknown took E's publisher. 350 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 3: Now that right there, I can't speak on simply because 351 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: when I did a compilation album, my my one of 352 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 3: my things was to try and get everybody a deal 353 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 3: on that first compilation eight got picked up PG. Thirteen 354 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 3: got picked up. But now the sea got picked up. 355 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: What happened to the what happened to West Coast Distributors? 356 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 3: Man, we went broke. We went fucking broke because that 357 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 3: was the plan. That was the plan. Yeah, okay, we 358 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 3: the company West Coast. West Coast Record Distributors was the 359 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 3: first company owned by artists, Me Rudy from the Dream 360 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 3: Team Unknown in Egypt. It was my idea. I put 361 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: all these cats together. We drove down to San Diego 362 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 3: to the NORM Convention National Association of Record Merchandisers, cut 363 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 3: a deal with the labels where they buy from us. 364 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 3: They say, yeah, if y'all do it, we'll buy it 365 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 3: from you. We shot back to La went to Rainbow 366 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 3: Records in Santa Monica. Talked to Steve, say, Steve, we 367 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 3: leave him a cola. We're gonna we got people that 368 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 3: sit they'll buy from us. Well, we pressed our records. 369 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: He said, yes, how much you're gonna charge us? We 370 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 3: want to charge you the record. I said, charge just 371 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: the regular price. He said, yeah, we need a line 372 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: of credit. He gave me Egypt, Rudy and Unknown twenty 373 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 3: five thousand dollars line of credit, not a piece of 374 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 3: paperwork in the motherfucking room. Hundred grand credit credit line 375 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 3: for Rainbow Records, not a piece of paper, just based 376 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 3: on our selling ability. My first project was CMW. I'd 377 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: been there about now, about six eight months. Okay, well, 378 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. The first project was Compilation. I've been there 379 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 3: about six eight months. And what we did not know 380 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 3: is that one of our partners was buying shit and 381 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: getting advances on because back then, in the independent record situation, 382 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 3: you could go to the distributor, Hey look I got 383 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 3: a new project coming out. I need advance on my project. Okay, 384 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 3: But because we were a distributor, they took it against 385 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 3: the distribution company and not that particular label, whoever's product 386 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: came out, they just got their money from. Y'all got 387 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 3: figured out for yourself. 388 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 2: Okay. 389 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 3: See what I'm saying, we're gonna charge it. We're gonna 390 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 3: charge this ten thousand, twenty thousand dollars to the fucking 391 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: distribution company. So when y'all come out, instead of y'all 392 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 3: getting now we build a shit, we're gonna get our 393 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 3: twenty grand back. I don't care what the product it is. 394 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 3: So when it came down to it, the compilation was 395 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: the next project coming through, so it got caught up 396 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: in that ship. So now I got to actually, I 397 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 3: gotta go to the Egyptian lever and hey man, y'all 398 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 3: owe me eighty grand. We sold like shit, like thinking 399 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 3: like ten fifteen thousand copies like that, okay, that we 400 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 3: were setting CDs. We was building them at like nine 401 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 3: fifty apiece. Yeah, so that was eighty grand minus present. 402 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 3: Did you ever get your money from? Never got my 403 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 3: goddamn money. Never got to let me. And see the 404 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 3: thing about distribution too. When you're going to look at 405 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 3: a label situation, set up, whatever record falters, right, it 406 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: comes up the top thing. 407 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: That's why they don't mind giving you advances because they 408 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: got a line of records coming up. 409 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 3: That's the whole that's the whole thing about the record industry. 410 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 3: Most cats don't understand. It's about your credibility. So if 411 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 3: you got four labels that's under one distribution company, somebody 412 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 3: gonna drop a record in the next few months, and 413 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna get my money back one way 414 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 3: or another. I don't care who it is. I just 415 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: want my money back. Y'all figure out who y'all gonna 416 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: charge you back to and that's where the ship got 417 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 3: fucked up at. So now they were supposed to drop 418 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 3: some ship to offset our ship, and we end up going. 419 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 3: We end up falling out after that. So now we 420 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 3: got struck with it. Then we get stuck with the 421 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 3: with the pressing bill. So they got hit with the 422 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 3: pressing bill. You followed me, so they got they got 423 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: hit with the pressing bill. So now my money is 424 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: tied up and they advances, they get struck with the 425 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 3: pressing bill. So now everybody mad. So who who the who? 426 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 3: The Egyptian leveling them go get the advance from man 427 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 3: probably want probably countter for the record distributors. And see here, 428 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 3: here's here's the bad part about it. He don't know 429 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 3: what happened because he wasn't running his own label. His 430 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 3: girlfriend was running his label. 431 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: So she went and got the bread. 432 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 3: She went and got the bread, and then we sat 433 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 3: down a few years later, this bitch was stealing from everybody. 434 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: It's always a motherfucker stealing. And that's what I was 435 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: gonna say, because I know in these movies they always 436 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: show it's a big bad white man somewhere stealing some shit, 437 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: right And I said, man, it seemed like the brothers 438 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: was doing niggas worse than worse than the motherfucking people. 439 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 3: We all finally sat down and came you know, niggas. 440 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 3: For a while, was like, hot, dude, you owe me this. 441 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 3: This niggas looking at me crazy, I'm nigga John crazy. 442 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: Everybody looking at everybody crazy, And I'm like, well, what 443 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 3: the fuck. So after after the niggas calmed down and 444 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 3: had a conversation when they were man, well what about 445 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 3: this right here? Oh man, I did this. I thought this, 446 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 3: I thought that, what the fuck this? By this time, 447 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 3: him and the old girl that broke up, she gone, 448 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: And then I found out for another part to mind about, 449 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 3: because here's the here's the crazy part about it. I 450 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 3: ain't tell you all this shit. We had me and 451 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 3: me and my party Charles. We had got a deal 452 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 3: for the Coptain's for the coptain compilation with uh. I 453 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 3: think it was UH, CBS or Sony one of them too. 454 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 3: I tell you the guy's name. The name is Tobrey Emric. 455 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 3: He one of the biggest motherfucking movie executives right now 456 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 3: in the fucking country. Name is Toby Emrick. Okay, he 457 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 3: left left the record division, went to the movie division. 458 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: He came to La met with me and Charles at 459 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 3: the Beverly Hills Hotel. True story. I never told her. 460 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 3: I ain't told this one no t Dusty yet and 461 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: me and Charles we wrote him down there and we said, 462 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 3: all right, man, anything past seventy five thousand, we're gonna 463 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 3: sell this motherfucker. Cash everybody out. 464 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: We're good. 465 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 3: Get down there. He was in a hurry. Look what 466 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 3: the fellas. I heard your product. I like what you 467 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 3: guys did. 468 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: Uh. 469 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 3: We offered a hundred thousand. We kicked the other on 470 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 3: the table like bitches talking out the smiles. Shit, hundred thousand, Okay, cool? 471 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 3: Were good? Right Monday morning, I wanna call you Monday 472 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: morning through the paperwork. I'm there, bright and early Monday morning. 473 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 3: Charles had a dinner's appointment that day. So I'm there 474 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 3: at eight thirty waiting on the phone ring. I'm waiting 475 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 3: for the phone to ring. Twelve o'clock. The phone ain't 476 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 3: ring three o'clock. The phone there ring. Charles is there, 477 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 3: and what happened, I don't know, man, I don't know. 478 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: Now put a pin right there. We never heard from 479 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: CBS again. Right, never heard from his cats again, never. 480 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: Heard from him. 481 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 3: My partner who I'm still in business with, right here 482 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 3: this day. At that time, he was answering the phone 483 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 3: for us at the West Coast, and he didn't know 484 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 3: what was going on. So I said, man, I never 485 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 3: forget that time we had to dial with CBS. Man, 486 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: it was for comporting compilation album and CBS just flaked out. No, no, no, no, 487 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I back up, back up, back up, I'm sorry, 488 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 3: I said, Yeah, man, I saw I saw Lisa one 489 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: day at the at the Spectrum Place in pam mcay. 490 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 3: She walked in and smiled real funny, Hey Liza, how 491 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 3: you doing, And all of a sudden she had like 492 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 3: she left her while in the car, and I said, 493 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 3: I thought that was crazy. He said, she probably thought 494 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 3: she's gonna kick her ass. Why I'm gonna kick her ass? 495 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 3: Oh man, that's a deal you had for for that 496 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 3: compilation album. She told Sylvia Row you didn't want it, 497 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 3: you changed your mind. This cost me one hundred thousand 498 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 3: dollars man for rich Bill talked, she went up there 499 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 3: and told the people that she didn't want to The 500 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 3: people did call that day. He what he told me 501 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 3: was He says, you get any calls for Alonzo or 502 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 3: Charles sent him to me. Okay, So when the phone call, 503 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 3: he didn't know what was going on. They called looking 504 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 3: for me. He sent the call to her. So then 505 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 3: she says, oh, uh, we had they had a conversation, 506 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 3: they had a meeting, and they changed their mind. She 507 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 3: thought it was funny and cute. So we was trying 508 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 3: to figure out what happened to the phone call because 509 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 3: she didn't want spot of mind. That was trained up 510 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 3: a fucking old school hater ade bottom line. So when 511 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 3: she saw me in Spectrum, she thought I was gonna 512 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 3: kick her ass. I didn't know she had done what 513 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 3: she had done yet. She knew what she had did, 514 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 3: but she didn't know I didn't know that. I didn't 515 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 3: know what she had done. So it wasn't ntil later 516 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 3: on we had the conversation till the all fucking came 517 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 3: around three sixty. Why would she do some shit like that? 518 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: Dude? 519 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 3: You have to understand back then, it was we were 520 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 3: very competitive, man. It was shady, dudeh was real, especially 521 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 3: in the record business. So everybody because you gotta understand, 522 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 3: even though uh we was dann promoters I'm still wrecking Crew, 523 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 3: He's still unking jam varm Me and that motherfucking few nigga. 524 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 3: It just you just kate. We couldn't get over that shit. 525 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 3: For for Recond Crew to get a hit for one 526 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 3: hundred thousand was gonna offset the balance of power back then. 527 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 3: And that's what it comes back, and that's what it 528 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 3: boiled down to. Okay, And as far as I can think, 529 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 3: that was just some old school I can fuck over 530 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 3: this nigga because we had had some issues back in 531 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 3: the day, man that you wouldn't understand. You wouldn't believe, dude. 532 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 3: What was the biggest issues was the gangsterism get involved? 533 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 2: Like what was it? I kicked? I kicked it. 534 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 3: I had to kick a lot of ass back of 535 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 3: the day as a DJ cause nigga didn't want to 536 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 3: pay you. Sometime in the record industry, we didn't get 537 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 3: that much, uh, that much gangsterism in the beginning. Now 538 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 3: I had to go to Macolda and put a gangster 539 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 3: mash down on his ass the ship ice Cube did 540 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 3: in the movie. He got that from me. I did 541 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 3: that to Macolda first, but I made te it off 542 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 3: the lights. That motherfucker. He called them all back in. 543 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: He had like twenty thousand, and he had like twenty 544 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: thousand copies in the warehouse. I said, it was like 545 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 3: on Monday. I said, hey, man, I'm gonna come back 546 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 3: and get them records. On went on Thursday, all right, 547 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: no problem. I had to fall back to Maccolda on 548 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 3: Tuesday half a more, gone, what the fuck my records 549 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 3: at man? Oh, I had to had to crush him 550 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 3: up because they have no space. 551 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: Broke your record? No, no, that's he said. Back door. 552 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 3: The motherfucker his secretary, white girl. You know we can 553 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,479 Speaker 3: break her off from time to time. She keep us 554 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 3: up on the lady school. From that motherfucker. Your records, 555 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,959 Speaker 3: he sent me an She said, if I called her back, 556 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 3: your records are on Pico and so and so Street. 557 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 3: Sure enough, I pulled up. They unloaded my shit. So 558 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 3: I went back to Maccola the next day, Unknown called 559 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: him off. I said, hey, I don't know what you did. 560 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 3: The lonzo. That motherfucker is coming to kick your ass down. 561 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 3: I walked in that motherfucker, I grabbed this goddamn golf 562 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 3: club and I started tearing this office up. That motherfucker 563 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 3: started throwing me some motherfucker stacks of money. Tell me 564 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: about seventy five hundred dollars. 565 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 566 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 3: Yes, I went back to the rest of the the 567 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 3: next day and got the rest of my goddamn records. 568 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 3: No bullshit. 569 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, man, because you've been depicted 570 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: in a lot of movies now, and that's all I 571 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: can go off because I wasn't there back then. The 572 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: way they paint your character in these movies, that you 573 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: had a very great dislike hip hop, that you didn't. 574 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: Like it, that's the biggest live of fucking toe man. 575 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: The first motherfucker bringing hip hop actor Los Angeles, I'm 576 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 3: the first one to bring the curtains, blow and run 577 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 3: d MTDLA. 578 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: No, let's say they say he didn't like gangster shit. Nope, 579 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: that's what they're saying. No, understand this, Yeah, that's what 580 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: they're saying. Understand this. 581 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 3: When it came to nw A, my only problem with 582 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 3: them was the fucking name. Man. 583 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: I'm born in the fifties. I'm sixty six years old. 584 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 3: When as I grew up as a young man in Compton, 585 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 3: when I heard somebody call somebody a nigga, it was 586 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 3: a negative connotation. It was nothing there was not a 587 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 3: term of endearment. It was not a term of endearment. 588 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 3: My daddy saw nigga that nigga, Oh my god, that nigga. 589 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 3: Don't nigga your car up shit like that. That's my 590 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 3: daddy told me that shit, so I couldn't get with 591 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: the name. Second of all, when they first came out, 592 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 3: they were not doing gangster rap. They were doing reality rap. 593 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 3: Something here, something to dance to, Panic Zone, Charles Wright's songs. Uh, 594 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 3: what you doing I'm talking about when they was in jail, 595 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 3: express yourself. That was that what they was doing where. 596 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 3: I think the biggest problem me had on the West 597 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 3: Coast is, man, if people don't realize mostly cats don't 598 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 3: know what the fuck I had to go through to 599 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: get this ship, keep this ship going. I'm not gonna 600 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: take credit for by myself. I can't do that. I 601 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 3: cannot say he didn't tell you Lonzo did the West 602 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 3: Coast by herself. That's bullshit. Lonzo had Roger Roger clated 603 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 3: from Uncle Jam's Army Rest in peaceknown DJ. We three 604 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 3: were three musketeers of this shit. 605 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 2: Man. 606 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 3: I don't know what they want to do any goddamn 607 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 3: talking though, and see. 608 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: I know you can't speak for Unknown, and I don't 609 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: know that, brother, but if A would have had some 610 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: legal representation, because you weren't even eighteen yet, was no 611 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: and so to Eights Publishing. And I ain't trying to 612 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: hold you account for that. Let me tell you something. 613 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: This is what I say when it comes to I 614 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: always tell niggas niggas had to pay their dues. That's 615 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: why I look at it like now I'm fifty two 616 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: years old, but I tell every nigga that a lot 617 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: of us had to pay our dues. When it came 618 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: to getting into, uh, the music business. I had no 619 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: fucking idea how I was gonna actually make a record. 620 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: I used to be in the garage at the Homie 621 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: House making TDK tapes like Toddy T talking about the hood, 622 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: rapping about gangster shit and niggas who sold dope and 623 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: the homie who went to the fucking jail last night. 624 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: So by the chance meeting of Lonzo getting on the 625 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: Compton compilation is how we met Unknown. A known had 626 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: techno hop a known had. 627 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 2: Iced tea your dog in the wax you don't quitch 628 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 2: songs like that, he had keen t he had the 629 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: coolest and you better bring a gun. So from there, 630 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: Uh going to Lonzo's fucking with Slip. We met Unknown 631 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: Ann had techno hop. I think we put out a 632 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: fucking We put out an EP on cassette This is 633 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: Compton and had three songs on it. I think, give 634 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 2: it up, this is Compton. I give up nothing. The 635 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 2: plan was what Unknown told us was that our record 636 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: was finna come out through West Coast Record Distributors. That's 637 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: what he told us, So I guess at the time, 638 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 2: that's when y'all was going through y'all shit, shit started 639 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 2: changing and then anone ended up meeting I forgot the 640 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 2: dude now, no, no. He ended up meeting the white 641 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 2: dude who worked for par Records. They had par Records 642 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 2: back then. Chu yes, he and through Chuck he met. 643 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 2: I forgot the dude name. But the dude had ties 644 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 2: with Orpheus and Capitol, so aknown took them are disscontact. 645 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 2: He met Charles Huggins and some white dude who worked 646 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 2: He ended up working for Morgan Creek. They it was 647 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 2: a white dude, but they took the dis iss Compton 648 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 2: EP took it up there and that's how Unknown got 649 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 2: a deal for us. Now I signed a recording I 650 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 2: ain't honestly, I ain't know shit about publishing. I ain't 651 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 2: no shit about it. I know nothing about writing your 652 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 2: own songs and none of that shit. I was fucking seventeen, 653 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: eighteen year old kid from Compton. I wanted to make records. 654 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 2: That was my dream. You get me niggas in the 655 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 2: hood every day selling dope, getting shot at. So it 656 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: was my dream to ooh, fucking you get me, you know, 657 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 2: to make records. You know, I don't know Texano shit 658 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 2: ik known. I signed a contract with Unknown. It was 659 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 2: a recording contract. I ain't know nothing about publishing. Unknown 660 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 2: took a publishing exhibit and he stapled in on the 661 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 2: back of the recording contract. That's how he was able 662 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 2: to control the publishing. So but I didn't don't get 663 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 2: your writers, no, and only gave me nothing. 664 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 3: People to get. Even if he got the published, he 665 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 3: was simple to get your writers. 666 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: I didn't get anything A known I know. I think 667 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 2: I think Capitol gave orpheus two fifty Charles pocketed one 668 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 2: sixty just fuck it, and then that left anknone with 669 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 2: ninety grand for us to do the first CMW record 670 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,439 Speaker 2: and I don't know, I might have got about maybe 671 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 2: seventy five hundred. 672 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 3: He gave me fifteen mm at the party gift. 673 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. He gave me about I don't know, maybe 674 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: seventy five. I really couldn't tell you. I was just 675 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 2: a kid, happy because I had a record condo. Well, 676 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 2: you got the Suzuki too, right, I got the suzuk. 677 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, breaks on this motherfucker. 678 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: Ye gave me the Suzuki and he gave me about suzuki. Yeah, 679 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 2: he gave me Cindy used to drive, yeah, right, And 680 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: I had the Suzuki and Nigga we was mashing Nigga 681 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 2: six a M radio stations at KA and you know, 682 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 2: I'm writing all the songs slip doing beats. You know, 683 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 2: I think we we did like three records up under Unknown, 684 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: under Big Beat before I started going. I'm still living 685 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 2: on Johnson Street. You get me A. No one had 686 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 2: moved in sino A, No one had the German Shepherd dog. 687 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 3: Germania, Nigga said the dogs. 688 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, so you know, but dog shit at least 689 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 2: about fifteen to twenty grand yeah, custom trade. Yeah, Nigga, 690 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 2: I'm still living on Johnson Street IVN and Suzuki around 691 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 2: and so I'm like, I mean, we got into it 692 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 2: one day because I started going on the road and 693 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 2: the nigga took a thousand dollars out of my checking 694 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 2: account because you know, he was cool with the bank. 695 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 2: He went into my checking account, took a thousand dollars 696 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,479 Speaker 2: out and went bought me a portable DT machine. I said, Nigga, 697 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 2: I don't need that motherfucker. Shit the fuck I need 698 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,720 Speaker 2: a nigga. I need my money. I don't need ADT machine. 699 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 2: He was like, nigga, you stupid, you need to And 700 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 2: from that day we fell out and he couldn't even 701 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 2: go by the debt machine for you. I remember we 702 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 2: was at the studio. We was at Slips that night, 703 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 2: and I was pissed off that the nigga had spent 704 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 2: a thousand dollars in my money. We was over Slips 705 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 2: getting loaded. You know, we Slipper getting loaded as a motherfucker. 706 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 2: We had Slips house getting loaded. A known over there too. 707 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 2: He leave his check book. Me and Slip go through 708 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 2: his check book. We seen he had just got a 709 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 2: publishing deal with MCA for like seventy grand and they 710 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 2: gave me twenty five hundred dollars. I wrote every fucking 711 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 2: song on music to drive by on fucking straight, checking 712 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 2: him on fucking it's a comptant thing. He gave me 713 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 2: twenty five hundred dollars and walked away with sixty whatever 714 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 2: he walked away with, and that's when I said, I 715 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 2: got to give me an attorney, and that's when we 716 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 2: split the deal, and that's when I finally was able 717 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 2: to break away from Unknown. And I never I never 718 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 2: tried to sue him. I never tried to do none 719 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 2: of that shit. I chalked it up as I had 720 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 2: to pay my fucking dues, you get me. That's why 721 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 2: I looked at it. I never had any regrets about it. 722 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 2: Other niggas was like, nigga, if I was with you, nigga, 723 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 2: we would have went at that, nigga. But I looked 724 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 2: at it as how else would I would have gotten 725 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 2: a business? You feel mesion. So that's what I looked 726 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 2: at it as. And I tell every nigga, I had 727 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 2: to pay my dues. And if that's what you want 728 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 2: to chalk it up, is paying my dues, because in 729 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 2: the end of it, I'm here right now. My career 730 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 2: went you know it went cool. I didn't hit fucking 731 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 2: I didn't hit Dre and Snoop status. But like I 732 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 2: tell niggas every day, I'm comfortable where I'm where I'm at. 733 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 2: You feel me. I don't have no regrets at all. 734 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 3: You know what, Dude, I can respect that. Man. I 735 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 3: tell Cash all the time. Man, you should have did nothing. 736 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 2: That ain't what I do. Man. 737 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 3: You know, it's just certain shit I don't do. Okay, 738 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 3: when you had to understand it, going to going going 739 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 3: back to hip hop for a minute. Hip hop at 740 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 3: one point in time was just like house party versus 741 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 3: boys in the hood, just like that, like watching you're 742 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 3: watching house party on one channel. Did you turn your 743 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 3: channel and there's boys in the hood. That's how this 744 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 3: ship changed. Niggas went from gunny haircuts and dancing around 745 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 3: and hopping around and ship to shoot that motherfuckers just 746 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 3: like that craping dude, And that's how it flipped up. 747 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 3: Crack changed everything. I didn't see the major effect on 748 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 3: it because by time, the EVE didn't feel it because 749 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 3: we was niggas were still starting powder cocaine at the EVE. 750 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 3: That was that was the drug, powder cocaine, and we shared. 751 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 2: We couldn't come up to the Okay Man. 752 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 3: That was the drugs. And then by the time I 753 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 3: got to do those, my crowd got younger. So I 754 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 3: didn't see a lot of drugs that plust I had 755 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 3: the police at the front door. I didn't see a 756 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 3: lot of drugs. My neighborhood changed where I grew up 757 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 3: at cham because Castle was selling pills. Now they started 758 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,399 Speaker 3: they were selling weed. But now they starting to sell 759 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 3: crack and ship started changing real hard in like the 760 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 3: late eighties early nineties. 761 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I went back to the Eve again, man, and 762 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,320 Speaker 2: I went back to the even the nineties. Man, I 763 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,879 Speaker 2: went to come up to the Eve, I was like, boy, 764 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 2: it's treacherous around Okay that went as the dog was. 765 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 4: That bad man. 766 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 3: When I came back in the nineties, he was rough 767 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 3: for me. 768 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 2: Man. That neighborhood around. 769 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,399 Speaker 3: First opened the Eve up and seventy nine, I wore 770 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 3: a suit to work every day because I because I 771 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 3: had to, because I wanted to. That was the vibe 772 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 3: of the Eve. When I came back in ninety two, 773 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,439 Speaker 3: Nigga had to wear genis and tennis shoes everyday because 774 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 3: Nigga was fighting. Man. It wasn't even like. It wasn't 775 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 3: even the party no more. It was wait to see 776 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 3: how many niggas gonna get fight, how men niggas gonna 777 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,800 Speaker 3: fight tonight. I couldn't even sit in the office. I 778 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,320 Speaker 3: used to be telling me, I go to my office, 779 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 3: have me a girl back. Should be people be listening 780 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 3: to this ship. I'll be getting caught up on this ship. 781 00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 3: But uh, i'd had company, and now I got to 782 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 3: walk the floor like my security guards. Man, I'm wearing 783 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 3: I went dressed like I am right. He was a whole. 784 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 3: It was a whole, different atole different. 785 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 2: Man, motherucking av line and Elsi Dondo. You got your 786 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 2: Giama village down the street. You got Athens Park, you 787 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 2: got the motherfucking you can senten of your one five. 788 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 3: Garden peas. 789 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 2: Man, It's surrounded by nothing but the blood homies, so 790 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 2: you all ain't ever perform up there. Man. I think 791 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 2: I went up to the eve one time, man, and 792 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 2: we snuck up in there. That place was treacherous. Man. 793 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 3: If you if you came with my brother, my brother 794 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 3: was a shotgun, you was all right. My brother ran 795 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 3: with the shotguns, but he also lived. He went to 796 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 3: school of Guardena where he lived with my mama. My 797 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 3: daddy had the patent guard diener so he would hang 798 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 3: with the bloods during the evening time, but go to 799 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 3: school with the crips and shotguns. But my daddy had 800 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 3: a line in the service. We cut lines under three 801 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 3: and one three five, So I knew everybody. And because 802 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,399 Speaker 3: I never gang bang, I got a music pass because 803 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 3: I'm the DJ. I said, DJ cool, he cool, he 804 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 3: you know, that was my thing. That's why I never 805 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 3: tripped on shit like that, because I had the music 806 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 3: and I was doing parties in nineteen seventy six everywhere 807 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 3: watch Compton Gardena essays. UH didn't make no damn difference. 808 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 3: So the music was always my past. But when I 809 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 3: got to the Eve, I got a different kind of pass. 810 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 3: Going to that loneso spy. He don't really gang bang, 811 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,800 Speaker 3: but everybody knew my and they knew where it was, 812 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 3: so that they came respectful when they did come, even 813 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 3: like Snake Puppy from La Dream Team. He told he 814 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 3: was telling me, told me many a time. Him and 815 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,800 Speaker 3: the Egyptian lover he used to walk to that motherfucker 816 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 3: from UH. They lived on sixty something. They would walk 817 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 3: through the eve and didn't didn't trip. When Snake Puppy 818 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 3: lived in Watts Egypt, lived across town someplace, they would 819 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 3: walk sixty blocks in the eve because the eve said, 820 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 3: oh until five o'clock in the morning. It wasn't always 821 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 3: fucked up. It got fucked It didn't have its issues. 822 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 3: Don't get me angle sitting sit here, live about nothing. 823 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,280 Speaker 3: We did have our issue. We had our bad nights. Okay. 824 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 3: Sometimes if turn people got outnumbered, it go down. But 825 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 3: for the most part, in the early days, it was 826 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 3: a piece of cake. It didn't get really rough. Taill 827 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 3: the ship man right before I got ready to shut 828 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 3: it down. After it shit started happening. 829 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I want to go back to something 830 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: real quick. You the one your company initially put the 831 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: Compton compilation out, correct. Yeah, So that means that those 832 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,399 Speaker 1: groups on that compilation, if a deal was to rise 833 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,839 Speaker 1: out of it the summer, it seemed like they would 834 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 1: have went through you. 835 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 2: They did. 836 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 3: Com just most wanted went through Unknown, but another c 837 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 3: went through My boy Charles hit a single deal with 838 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 3: her went through PG thirteen went to Unknown also, So 839 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 3: it was my pot he was. He was a part 840 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 3: of West Coast, but the groups didn't come to West Coast. 841 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 3: You followed me by the time we started having issues, 842 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 3: so I didn't want Why. 843 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 2: Did you feel like you didn't have first DIBs at 844 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 2: trying to get those groups deals since all of them 845 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 2: came through Crew Cut. 846 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 3: You know what, I've always been a little bit different minded, man, 847 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 3: because at that time, new hip hop was so new. 848 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 3: I got the studio, I'm doing clubs. I'm getting the 849 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 3: asks all the time I've been here. You know, give 850 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 3: me something, give me something, go, give me something. Go. 851 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 3: That was always my attitude. Okay. I was always on 852 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 3: a different situation. I provide the platforms. I didn't really 853 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 3: want to be nobody's manager. I'm not a producer. I 854 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 3: don't make beats. And Jerry Hiller was with you at first. 855 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 3: Jerry Hiller was with me first. I don't make beats 856 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 3: our own studios, our own nightclubs, our own platforms. I 857 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 3: give people the shots. Okay, I provide an opportunity. So 858 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 3: if I give you opportunity and somebody says, hey, man, 859 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,800 Speaker 3: one of my boys, like right even right now, I 860 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 3: ain't made a record of dad in the thirty five years, Man, 861 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 3: I got this dude, I got, I got a rapper 862 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 3: or I got when I got this, I bake beats. 863 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 3: I still hook people together right to this day. I 864 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 3: get my money now, I do a little bit different, 865 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 3: but I hooked people up. That's what I've That's what 866 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 3: I've always done. I'm not about an artist. I've made records, 867 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 3: I write songs, but I'm not a fucking artist, per se. 868 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 3: I ain't you know, nigga put me against a thousand motherfuckers. 869 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 3: I'm still gonna be last when it come to rapper. 870 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 3: But when it come to motherfucker, they put niggas on. 871 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 3: Anybody put more niggas on to me. 872 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, man, did Jerry ever come 873 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 1: to you because you looked them up with easy in them, right, sir? 874 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: Did he ever straighten you out for that? 875 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 2: Hell no? 876 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. And you know I'm trying 877 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: to say that. Ain't no other way. That's what Jerry 878 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 1: Hillar a crook, Jerry Hillo. It depends on how you 879 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: want to how you define crook. I wouldn't call him 880 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 1: a crook, but he was smart. He knew what he 881 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 1: was dealing with and he knew like, uhnn. 882 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna say people other people did take advantage 883 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 3: of certain people exactly. That's why I've always I always 884 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 3: felt that he did not want me too close to 885 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 3: the fellas. 886 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 2: Understand this. 887 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 3: I'm in business at nineteen DJ and already I got 888 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,399 Speaker 3: my first club at twenty two. I know how to count, 889 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 3: I know twenty percent equals. And Jerry had already experienced 890 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,359 Speaker 3: my business acumen when we got our CBS deal. Because 891 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,800 Speaker 3: when I got my CBS deal, we got head hunted 892 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 3: from by Larket Arnold, Larkin Arnold's big time producer bad 893 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 3: Boy from uh He the one discovered Frankie Beverly and 894 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 3: Maze brought Marvin Gay over to CBS, the whole nine yards. 895 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 3: So we got head hunted from a Coola to go 896 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 3: to CBS Sony. And when it came time to do 897 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 3: the deal, Jerry didn't get me the deal. I got 898 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 3: my own damn deal. So now come time and do 899 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 3: the paperwork. I don't have a manager. Jerry wants to 900 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 3: be my manager. I called my lawyer. I said, Hey, 901 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 3: my name is kN Claven still around. I said, Ken, 902 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,879 Speaker 3: do I need a manager for this project? He said, 903 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 3: for what you need a manager for? I said, well, 904 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 3: don't you need a manager to do Yourn said, No, 905 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do the negotiations. All your manager gonna do 906 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 3: is call you and tell you what I said. Then 907 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 3: you're gonna say yes or no. He gonna call me 908 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 3: and tell me yes or no. Okay, so cut out 909 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 3: the middle man, buy your stuff a cell phone and 910 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,879 Speaker 3: be ready to answer the phone. That's how I learned 911 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 3: the game. Because they wouldn't given record music business lessons 912 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,839 Speaker 3: back then. Hell, they wasn't given lessons out then. Okay, 913 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 3: what no YouTube was, no no books, wasn't no music universities. 914 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 3: So if you didn't know somebody that was gonna put 915 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 3: you up on some game, you wasn't gonna get none. 916 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 3: So he charged me. I think it was like seventy 917 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 3: five hundred dollars. Do do the negotiations with the with Sony. 918 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 3: I'm learning the game. He explained this shit to me. 919 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 3: As I'm going I'm getting bill for it. But it's 920 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 3: the best lesson I ever got. You get bill for college, 921 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 3: you see what I'm saying. So as this shit is 922 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 3: going on, I'm learning the game. So now Jerry realized 923 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 3: that this motherfucker's pretty smart. He don't need. 924 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 2: He don't need me. 925 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 3: So I saved the crew twenty grand by doing the 926 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,800 Speaker 3: deal myself, because if we had, if we had to 927 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 3: deal deal with Jerry, we had to give Jerry twenty 928 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 3: thousand plus get a lawyer seven thousand. That's twenty seven 929 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,280 Speaker 3: thousand off of one hundred. Now we got a seventy 930 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 3: thousand dollar budget to work with because I did the 931 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 3: deal with myself instead of having seventy five hundred, Now 932 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 3: we got ninety seven thousand. 933 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 2: To work with. 934 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 3: Makes sense to me, make a big difference. They make 935 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 3: a bigg ass difference. And I bought my own studio. 936 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 3: I bought my own demo studio, made all my beasts 937 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 3: at the pad first, then went to the big studio 938 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,320 Speaker 3: and recorded that shit. So now I got all this equipment, 939 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 3: I got a studio, I got we got twenty grand 940 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 3: extra to spend to fuck off or whatever. That's what 941 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 3: we did, fuck it off, Okay. And this is how 942 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 3: I was always taught to think. So I had a 943 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 3: different mindset. I wasn't stuck on being the artist. I 944 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 3: wasn't stuck on being a label on a per se. 945 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 3: I was just trying. I was trying to get about 946 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 3: to get us the game as fast as possible. You 947 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 3: were a businessman. I was a businessman, but my only 948 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 3: problem was with the music ship and the music but 949 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 3: shifted being of my business. They got more gangsters, got 950 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 3: more straight shit. I backed up because that ain't what 951 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 3: I do. I don't want to ask. So you saw 952 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 3: Sugar and all of them come in. I saw all 953 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 3: them coming in, and my experiences out of Compton as 954 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 3: a young man growing up realized. I realized, if you 955 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 3: ain't prepared to kill a motherfucker, leave me alone. 956 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't been in. 957 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 3: Through a lot of shit. Man shot it motherfuckers, and 958 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 3: I ain't no gangster. I didn't shot it motherfuckers, then 959 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 3: shot at the whole nine. If that's not that's not 960 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 3: what I fucking do. So I don't want to go 961 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 3: back through that ship. So surviving Eve after Dark, surviving 962 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 3: do though, surviving Skateland, I don't want to be. I 963 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 3: don't want to be a motherfucking gangster man. I'd have 964 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 3: done some gangster shit, but that ain't what I that's 965 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,280 Speaker 3: that's not my my forefront. I'm like any other motherfucker. 966 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 3: I nigga. I do what I got to do to survive, 967 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:47,320 Speaker 3: but that ain't what I do. 968 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: You know, seeing you go through your it's funny, man, 969 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 1: your history kind of parallel what I go through right 970 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 1: now because I was one of the first dudes in 971 00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 1: LA doing podcasts, okay, so I helped the lot of 972 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: people out, really genuinely try to help motherfuckers out. A 973 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: lot of times was losing money, you know, with helping people. 974 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 1: But it always comes back in the end that you 975 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 1: can never satisfy people. You're never satisfied people. You go 976 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: always get blamed for everything. 977 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 978 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,800 Speaker 3: It's definitely a bit should deal with artists. When you 979 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 3: deal with artists, a lot of times, if they're successful, 980 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,479 Speaker 3: it's all about me. But if you fail, niggas your fault. 981 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,359 Speaker 3: I didn't write that shit. I just well, you didn't 982 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,720 Speaker 3: do this. So people usually wanted to make a scapegoat. 983 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,360 Speaker 3: I know, I didn't want to be nobody es scapegoats. 984 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 3: I'd rather give you a shot being gonna do your things. 985 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 3: Good luck, good luck, And that's always been my motherfucking 986 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 3: forte Well. 987 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 1: I like eights attitude with it all because I always 988 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 1: feel like if somebody give you an opportunity to change 989 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,800 Speaker 1: your life. You gotta take the bidder with the suite. Definitely, 990 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 1: they will never be perfect. But I look at it 991 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 1: like right now, like if Charlemagne called me tomorrow and 992 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,439 Speaker 1: see it. Hey, man, we can't fuck with the show 993 00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 1: no more. I ain't got nothing bad to say about it. 994 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 1: That motherfucker do some pretty good money. 995 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just people expect, you know, your attitude to 996 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,359 Speaker 2: be different. I don't know. Like I said, i'n't been 997 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 2: through a lot of other ship and from the situation 998 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 2: that you know that happened, you know what I'm saying, 999 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 2: just a couple of weeks ago. I'll be like, Man, 1000 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 2: it's it's just another lesson learned, and from from from 1001 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 2: where out in been now. I done been places. Motherfuckers 1002 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 2: will never go you give me for I haven't been 1003 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,399 Speaker 2: around the world. You give me foreign countries and all 1004 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 2: kinds of shit. So I just tell niggas, you know, 1005 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 2: you gotta pay your dues when you gotta pay your 1006 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,360 Speaker 2: dues with anything though, you know what I'm saying. So 1007 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 2: that's why I never go around and try to, you know, 1008 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 2: push that narrative of really just bad mouth and motherfuckers 1009 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 2: like some motherfuckers do try to stay away from the 1010 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 2: negative bullshit. You know, sometimes you might, you know, get 1011 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,320 Speaker 2: questioned about certain shit, but in all, in all, I 1012 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,840 Speaker 2: tell a nigga, I wouldn't trade it for nothing, you 1013 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:11,279 Speaker 2: get me. 1014 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,879 Speaker 3: I think I am crushed about that corny shit though, Well, 1015 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 3: well I'm hurt. I'm hurt, nigga, I'm. 1016 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 2: Listen my opinion because you know what I'm saying. Like 1017 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,840 Speaker 2: you said it, though, let me put it in a 1018 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:28,880 Speaker 2: different perspective. Our shit was a lot of dance orientated music, 1019 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 2: you get me. We didn't have the you know, like 1020 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 2: you said, the first shit you probably heard when my 1021 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 2: nigga was talking some street shit was Toddy t you 1022 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:44,800 Speaker 2: feel me. So a lot of our music was electro, electro, 1023 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 2: electro funk. I mean, we had breakdancers, we had pop 1024 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,799 Speaker 2: lockers and shit. So I'll put it in that perspective. 1025 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 2: Crew Cut gave us a platform to be able to 1026 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:05,800 Speaker 2: put out records because nobody else did that. We I 1027 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 2: was influenced by gangster shit. I don't know why. I mean, 1028 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 2: I grew up in Compton. I was fucking gang banging 1029 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,799 Speaker 2: at thirteen, fourteen years old. 1030 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 3: At even at our Lady of Victory was gang banging. 1031 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I know about that too. Yeah. 1032 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 2: Even when I went to our Lady of Victory, I 1033 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,800 Speaker 2: was gang banging. I was claiming trag New Park. So 1034 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 2: you know, I was just influenced by street shit. And 1035 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 2: you know, and I had a mama who worked every 1036 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 2: day hard, had a father who worked at General Motors 1037 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 2: down in Southgate. But I don't know. It was just 1038 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 2: the niggas down the street with the with the hood 1039 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:47,800 Speaker 2: rats and the motherfucking slanging dope. And you know, I 1040 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 2: think when I was coming to Yo Crib, my cousin 1041 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,759 Speaker 2: gave me my first deuceduce. So we used to come 1042 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 2: over there strapped up and forty ounce and smoking weed 1043 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 2: and shit like that. 1044 00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 3: And I was but they never disrespected me. 1045 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,280 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, we never disrespected. 1046 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 3: Whatever side you rolling with. That's cool. 1047 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 2: We never brought no, I mean, because like it was 1048 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 2: a gang of niggas from different sides. But yeah, we 1049 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 2: got along with everybody up there when we would be there. 1050 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,320 Speaker 2: We never had no confrontations or nothing. Now, some niggas 1051 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:26,000 Speaker 2: did follow me over there one day, but when I 1052 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 2: pulled up at your spot and they knew it was 1053 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 2: your spot, they was like all right, nigga, But yeah, 1054 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,759 Speaker 2: it could have been vicious because I mean we was 1055 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:35,359 Speaker 2: gang bang. 1056 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 3: And that's why I've always stayed neutral to the ship. 1057 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 3: I know niggas where I live at. Yeah, one side 1058 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 3: is blood, one side is cript. Yeah, I just have 1059 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 3: to live in the middle. Okay, both of them know 1060 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 3: me all up, know me? Okay. 1061 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,359 Speaker 2: I used to come up one hundred and twenty. If 1062 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,359 Speaker 2: and you come up one hundred and twenty, if it'd 1063 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 2: be some niggas see you, nigga, they follow you right 1064 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 2: over there. What you doing over here, nigga? And they 1065 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 2: see where you at, they like, oh, all right then 1066 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:03,319 Speaker 2: and pull off. 1067 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 1: Then I want to go back to this Jerry Hiller 1068 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 1: ship real quick, because he was with you first. Right, 1069 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,320 Speaker 1: So he never came back and said, you know what, Lonzo, 1070 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:12,319 Speaker 1: you hooked me up. 1071 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 2: With this or that. I'm no, he never said he 1072 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 2: never did nothing like that. 1073 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,320 Speaker 3: Man. In fact, when I never get I never get it. 1074 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,680 Speaker 3: I never got mad at Jerry. I never I didn't 1075 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 3: trimp on him because easy always find something for me 1076 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 3: to do. From time to time. I was like the 1077 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 3: layersione for Roofless Records comp The Lason When there was 1078 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 3: a problem. I'd always easy drek. Jerry would call me 1079 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:39,800 Speaker 3: up here, man, we got some problem, he goes, he 1080 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,560 Speaker 3: goes Somebodey, go take take care of this for us 1081 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 3: right quick. You know I ain't mad about that. You know, 1082 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,440 Speaker 3: at that time, I was cool, man, I was just cool, 1083 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 3: not being caught up in the bullshit. I don't do 1084 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 3: bullshit very well, okay, like you like eight, I'm a 1085 00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,040 Speaker 3: goddamn Gemini. Don't let these smiles and jokes get it 1086 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,880 Speaker 3: get you fucked up. Okay, So I didn't want to 1087 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:04,920 Speaker 3: put myself in that position. 1088 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 2: The one time I. 1089 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 3: Met with Should, I had read the problem with Sugar. 1090 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,720 Speaker 3: I had an interaction with Sugar. It was like, dude, 1091 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 3: I ain't that one. I'm cool, but I ain't that one. 1092 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 3: And we shook hands, walked away from it, left it alone. 1093 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 3: Is Jerry Hiller was one of them casts man that 1094 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 3: he had a lot of connections. It was a more 1095 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 3: advantageous to be on his good side than his bad side. 1096 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 3: Either a vindictive motherfucker. He could be very vindictive, okay, 1097 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,000 Speaker 3: And if I needed something, I can call him up. 1098 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 3: He can give me a referral connection. Blah blah blah. 1099 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 3: When I had turned off lights even though he wasn't 1100 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,120 Speaker 3: my manager. Oh yeah, he wasn't my manager. We went 1101 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,400 Speaker 3: around and just shopped the deal, okay. Or when it 1102 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,000 Speaker 3: came to easing them, I didn't think that was gonna fly, Doc, 1103 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,400 Speaker 3: because Jerry hit me up a few days after that 1104 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 3: situation went down and he asked me, says, Lonzo, how 1105 00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 3: does a Jewish man from the valley within a group 1106 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 3: from Compton called Nigga's attitudes? And I told him very carefully, 1107 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 3: and I didn't think the relationship was gonna work. I 1108 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,440 Speaker 3: swear to god, I didn't. Because Jerry was used to 1109 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:18,160 Speaker 3: dealing with me Egypt and Rudy and some other folks. 1110 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 3: Easy was a totally different situation. Easy carried his money 1111 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,040 Speaker 3: in his sock. Easy would have a fucking look like 1112 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 3: he had an anchor bracelet on sometime. He ever swearched 1113 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 3: money in his fucking sock, paid in cash, everything. And 1114 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 3: once Jerry realized that he had something that was workable, 1115 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 3: I felt that he may have taken advantage of them. 1116 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 3: Because understand this, Jerry always and this time I learned 1117 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,280 Speaker 3: from him. I never got sued. I never got sued. 1118 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 3: If I'm ana crook, well, why nobody ever sued me, 1119 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,520 Speaker 3: simply because once you signed the contract, nigga, you're great 1120 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,840 Speaker 3: to that shit. That's the fucking deal. You can't go 1121 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 3: to the judge crying now because you didn't need the 1122 00:58:54,880 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 3: goddamn contract. So when I talked to Yeller about the situation, 1123 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 3: he's probably the main what I say in contact with 1124 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 3: you know, they got he got some money, but nobody 1125 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 3: got what they deserved. Even Drake didn't get what he 1126 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 3: was deserved. Because when they first formed nw A, it 1127 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 3: was supposed to be a partnership. Okay, it was formed 1128 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 3: in my living room. They got the name and where 1129 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,480 Speaker 3: they came up with the name and concept at at 1130 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 3: Arabian princiss Pad. But they started talking about the deal 1131 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 3: that my house because I kind of had a little 1132 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 3: input and they were easy. Wanted to start a record label. 1133 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 3: He wasn't gonna be on the label. He wasn't gonna 1134 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,479 Speaker 3: be an artist. He wanted to put the money behind 1135 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 3: the project. These people forget about this kind of shit 1136 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 3: he was gonna put just like you saw in the 1137 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:43,160 Speaker 3: movie him just wanted to be a label owner. HBO 1138 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 3: the gout Homeboys only coming to the path. They happened 1139 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 3: in my house for real, And so them niggas really 1140 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 3: told Ray that shit was girl. They didn't. They didn't 1141 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,040 Speaker 3: like this shit. They was from New York, they don't. 1142 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 3: The cars didn't hop in New York back then. So 1143 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 3: people forget all this shit. Man, it was a different time. 1144 00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,840 Speaker 3: This ship is not. You can't compare today to nineteen 1145 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 3: eighty five eighty six. It was two different worlds. They still, 1146 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 3: you know, even n w A, like I said before, 1147 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 3: they still had to do records like Something to Dance 1148 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 3: To in Panics on which which were produced by Arabian 1149 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 3: Prince that if you put some breathing on the ship, 1150 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 3: it could have been a record crew song just to 1151 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 3: get on the radio. Because they hadn't. They hadn't. 1152 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 2: It hadn't been in steven A Yeah, transitioned over. 1153 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,080 Speaker 3: Yet, had transition yet good looking, He had hadn't transition 1154 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 3: yet to the gates and ship yet. When Easy wanted 1155 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,400 Speaker 3: me to get help him, and Easy wanted me to 1156 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 3: get him to get him to Greg macause Greg back 1157 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 3: was my guy, Greg me, Greg Mac and Roger Me 1158 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 3: and Greg Mac had had a business arrangement. Roger was 1159 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,720 Speaker 3: our competition. Fuck Roger and Uncle Jam's Army because they 1160 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 3: they was dissing everybody. That was our attitude. Greg was 1161 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,640 Speaker 3: bringing me actions, Dudos, ll cool J New Edition, all 1162 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 3: kind of mo every weekend. We asked somebody different at Dudos. 1163 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 3: Because Greg was hooking the shit up. We was making money. 1164 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 3: He was paying our records on the radio, the whole 1165 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,520 Speaker 3: nine yards. We had a hell of a thing going 1166 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,160 Speaker 3: on if he played. He had them on Duodos on 1167 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,800 Speaker 3: Friday and uh fucking Sherman Sherman Square on Saturday. We 1168 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,080 Speaker 3: was killing that ship and an easy one to get 1169 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 3: in the mix. But he was cussing on the record, 1170 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,480 Speaker 3: So that's when you started getting all the reverses and 1171 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 3: the beeps and ship. That was the first time it happened. 1172 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,440 Speaker 1: Records was a big deal back then. Yes, definitely, Yes, 1173 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 1: that was a big deal back then. I even heard 1174 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 1: motherfucker saying you can go to jail for that. 1175 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a dude. Look, the scene is straight 1176 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:33,840 Speaker 3: out of Compton when I get on Dre's ass. The 1177 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:38,920 Speaker 3: real story behind that was because at Dudos, I'd hire 1178 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:40,480 Speaker 3: off through the cops to. 1179 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 2: Be my security. 1180 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 3: Doodos is right next door to Pyrout like that parking 1181 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 3: lot across the goddamn driveway, doodles. Is that the pyrout, 1182 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 3: the mecca of all bloods, is right there next to 1183 01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,920 Speaker 3: the right next door to that. So in order for 1184 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 3: me to make that happen, I had to have some security. 1185 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 3: That was the old man's deal. You gotta have security. 1186 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 3: I recommend off through the cops. But guess what I 1187 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 3: got a first cousin. My mama's sister's brother, My mama 1188 01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,560 Speaker 3: and sister's son is on the Compton PD. He ran 1189 01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 3: the swap. He ran the security for the swap meet. 1190 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 3: Reggie Wright Senior was one of his boys. The game detailed, dude. 1191 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 3: So I had him, Huey Taylor, all of them doing 1192 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,120 Speaker 3: due security for me. At dudos, I'm giving him one 1193 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:25,920 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty five dollars there you had, Reggie, right, 1194 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 3: Reggie Wright sor you know what. Reggie Wright Senior was 1195 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 3: an important piece of comptent. 1196 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah right. 1197 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,480 Speaker 1: He was one of the first people that really exercised 1198 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 1: the community police in the work. He wasn't just throwing 1199 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 1: motherfuckers in jail, right. He would talk to motherfuckers. He 1200 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,560 Speaker 1: would take your pistol from you. Now whatever, you know, 1201 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,840 Speaker 1: if you asked some shit, but he wasn't just so 1202 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 1: quick to throw a motherfucking jail. 1203 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,480 Speaker 3: So when casts came to Dudos and saw Reggie, oh shit, 1204 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 3: this motherfucker know me. Everybody in line. So we had 1205 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,280 Speaker 3: something that dodos. Me and Greg had something that you 1206 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 3: couldn't fade. You couldn't fade if you wanted to. And 1207 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 3: the shit just blew up. And this is how shit 1208 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 3: started developing. But Jerry Heller didn't understand the the all 1209 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,640 Speaker 3: the different parts that was making this shit happen. So 1210 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,240 Speaker 3: because I had Greg back, me and me and him 1211 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,240 Speaker 3: was still tight to this day. I got Dudos and 1212 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,640 Speaker 3: I got my coola. We gotta try effected. We're making 1213 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 3: our own records, we gotta get airplay on the radio, 1214 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,240 Speaker 3: and we got a place to uh to perform at. 1215 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,520 Speaker 3: So everybody's coming to the niggas is taking their chances 1216 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 3: come to Dodo to perform. So that was my that 1217 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,960 Speaker 3: was my forte and more over everything which providing platform 1218 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 3: because if I started doing too much management, I can't 1219 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,200 Speaker 3: do it. I got to stop and do some other ship. 1220 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,360 Speaker 1: Now you knowing so much about the music industry, man, 1221 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,320 Speaker 1: this changed drastically today with the whole streaming and every 1222 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 1: act like that. I saw that snoop recently. It took 1223 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 1: all the death Row stuff. When he acquired the death 1224 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,200 Speaker 1: Robe alog or whatever, he took it off the streaming 1225 01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 1: platform to all the streaming platforms, and he put it 1226 01:03:58,400 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 1: back up. 1227 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,040 Speaker 3: I guess he said to Fine, you know why he 1228 01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 3: did that. When you, as ship gets on the streeping platforms, 1229 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,000 Speaker 3: depending on what platform that gets goes onto, you get 1230 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,960 Speaker 3: an r S S number, r S S feed number. Okay, 1231 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,800 Speaker 3: those numbers, if they don't coincide, your money can get 1232 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:18,320 Speaker 3: get scattered exactly. 1233 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 2: Okay. 1234 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 3: So in fact, I'm going through the same ship right now. 1235 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,360 Speaker 3: My records have been on so many compilations. I'm on MLC, 1236 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 3: I'm on Sound Exchange. You got your b and my ship, 1237 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,080 Speaker 3: and if you don't have the same numbers, you won't 1238 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,320 Speaker 3: get credit for the ship. So I had to hire 1239 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,840 Speaker 3: a publishing manager for the first time to go in, 1240 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 3: go to find all my ship, not just record crew, 1241 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 3: because I got a catalog. I got two hundred songs. 1242 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,760 Speaker 3: With my catalog of other ship, find all my songs, 1243 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,840 Speaker 3: make sure make sure they all have the same uh 1244 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 3: correct uh rn C coats, and not only for America, 1245 01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:59,680 Speaker 3: but overseas Canada, England, Japan, all that ship. So that's 1246 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,560 Speaker 3: the fun job. So I would think Snooper do the 1247 01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 3: same thing. I'm gonna take all my ship off the 1248 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,720 Speaker 3: air right now, get all this ship straight and put 1249 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,280 Speaker 3: it back now it's gonna be corrected. A lot of 1250 01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 3: money gonna go to the right people. Oh so he 1251 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,880 Speaker 3: probably had checks going all all kinds of fact. The 1252 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,200 Speaker 3: potet's not baby the poet, or you might not get 1253 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:19,840 Speaker 3: your money at all. And that was something that was 1254 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,440 Speaker 3: a problem for me because I had so many songs, 1255 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 3: and I think something, it is. 1256 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,760 Speaker 2: Me, not ship. I got this. You got so many 1257 01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 2: songs and ship, and they got so many different codes 1258 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 2: from the old motherfuckers who register. 1259 01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,480 Speaker 3: I got you on Thump Records, which is universal, and 1260 01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,840 Speaker 3: then they thought they all coldesh or youre fucking with Thump. 1261 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 1: I did well, Bill, I didn't want to say his name. 1262 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,680 Speaker 1: That motherfucker over there, one of the jankies. Motherfuckers. 1263 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:49,520 Speaker 3: When you do compilations, if mother I got any kind 1264 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 3: of junk on them, your should have end up with 1265 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:52,640 Speaker 3: a new code so he can get paid. 1266 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,360 Speaker 1: So what I'm saying, so like they did with the 1267 01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,640 Speaker 1: physical ship back then they'll put a different borough code. 1268 01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:57,920 Speaker 2: Right. 1269 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,160 Speaker 1: A motherfucker tell you all, man, you did you shipped 1270 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 1: out five thousand units? And really he don't shipped out 1271 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 1: thirty of them motherfuckers because he don't send ten over 1272 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,640 Speaker 1: the year up, he don't send another ten in Japan 1273 01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,720 Speaker 1: because I had a thing, man, me and big A 1274 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 1: had a sweet thing going on. I had a hook 1275 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,400 Speaker 1: up in Japan, dog with tower records to where they 1276 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:20,120 Speaker 1: were buying from me. Cood. I was sending them motherfuckers 1277 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 1: two thousand records. Dog, I get my money right then. 1278 01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,600 Speaker 1: And there Dog, we selling the motherfuckers eight dollars a piece. Dog, 1279 01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 1: I was distripping and dashing them. 1280 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 3: Shit. 1281 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,520 Speaker 1: Dog, we was doing that shit dog. And it's a 1282 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,840 Speaker 1: funny thing. And dash my nigga, he'll tell you. I 1283 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 1: remember it was a holiday, right, and lay usually sending 1284 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,320 Speaker 1: us our money. It was coming up on Christmas, right, 1285 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,240 Speaker 1: It's like in December, December like eighteenth for some shit 1286 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,800 Speaker 1: like that. She tells me, She says, you know our 1287 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 1: banks are closed over here. I'll be able to get 1288 01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:49,040 Speaker 1: you the money like two days after Christmas or some 1289 01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,480 Speaker 1: shit like that. Right, So you know, niggas used to 1290 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,560 Speaker 1: get their money, cood. So I put dashing them on 1291 01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 1: the motherfucking email right, you know, so they could see 1292 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't no ship, me telling y'all you niggas be right. 1293 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:07,720 Speaker 1: So they just go back on the motherfucking say bit. 1294 01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:12,600 Speaker 1: Just shoot the motherfucker. I say, oh my god, oh 1295 01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 1: my god. 1296 01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:18,120 Speaker 3: All that relationship cultivated over the years is just gone. Now. 1297 01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,280 Speaker 1: She says, no problem, I will send you the money myself. 1298 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,640 Speaker 1: She send me the money. Dog, I sent her some 1299 01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,160 Speaker 1: ship a few weeks later, like a one sheet. Didn't 1300 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,600 Speaker 1: get no response. Dog, that was just that quick. It 1301 01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 1: was due quick. 1302 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,120 Speaker 3: People don't understand. You can't take that book, take the street, 1303 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:35,760 Speaker 3: ship to the to the to them folks. 1304 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:36,360 Speaker 2: They work. 1305 01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:39,160 Speaker 3: Let's get the ship out of the man. They'll fuck 1306 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 3: with you, but that's gonna be cut your ass off. 1307 01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:44,440 Speaker 2: Like immediately, like I'm done fucking with you. 1308 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,919 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, man, that's one thing about the recommendness I missed, 1309 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,840 Speaker 3: dude right now. I mean when we do certain projects, Man, 1310 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,040 Speaker 3: if you had a good an, it wasn't your project. 1311 01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 3: If you know what what the spots was, the co 1312 01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,840 Speaker 3: D spots, you can take a hundred seat until I'm 1313 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,440 Speaker 3: sorry a couple thousand CDs down to a spot pick 1314 01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:04,919 Speaker 3: up fifteen twenty thousand dollars. 1315 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,160 Speaker 1: Bro, I had it for a minute, man cash before 1316 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 1: dramming them got cracked. I don't want to say too 1317 01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,560 Speaker 1: motherfucker much, but but before dramming them got cracked, Dog, 1318 01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,680 Speaker 1: I was probably doing about Man, we was probably doing 1319 01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,439 Speaker 1: about anywhere from sixty to a buck twenty a month. 1320 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,640 Speaker 1: My nigga, that's how I like, really, Dog, That's how 1321 01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,120 Speaker 1: I made my bag. That's how I bought my first house. Dog, 1322 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,479 Speaker 1: That's how I did a lot of shit. Dog put 1323 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,880 Speaker 1: a son through college with that money. My oldest son 1324 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,240 Speaker 1: ate college off that money. 1325 01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:34,439 Speaker 3: Dog. 1326 01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,240 Speaker 1: Because I had a distribution set up around the world. 1327 01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,720 Speaker 1: I had a company in England called Altered Ego and 1328 01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,280 Speaker 1: started an urban division, so all the shit out of 1329 01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,639 Speaker 1: the United States from the West Coast, I was distributing 1330 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,439 Speaker 1: out there outside of my own shit, right, I had 1331 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,200 Speaker 1: so much stuff going. And the one mistake I made, 1332 01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,240 Speaker 1: Dog was putting it. If I wouldn't have put them 1333 01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:56,120 Speaker 1: on that email, cause there's a whole different nigga. Now 1334 01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,040 Speaker 1: that is way different now. You know, back then, there's 1335 01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 1: a cut of motherfucker. You know, what I'm saying, Bis 1336 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:02,960 Speaker 1: where the money at? Give me that, you know what 1337 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,559 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But it got fucked off that quick. If 1338 01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't put him on that, I'd probably still be 1339 01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 1: eating with them, motherfucker. 1340 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,479 Speaker 3: I had deals with Blue Dolphin and a few other people, man, 1341 01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:13,599 Speaker 3: and the same kind of thing. Dude. You just if 1342 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,240 Speaker 3: you had a relationship and you dropped some ship, they 1343 01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 3: gonna they're gonna order a thousand just to test it out. 1344 01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:19,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why it was. 1345 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,000 Speaker 1: I think my smallest order would be from over there 1346 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 1: would probably be anywhere from five hundred to a thousand, 1347 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,760 Speaker 1: because that was just them trying some shit out and 1348 01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't no coming back. That's what I love about it, 1349 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,080 Speaker 1: all that shit about returns and shit, because I'm gonna 1350 01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 1: tell you that, motherfucker. You know your boy from City Hall, right, 1351 01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:38,840 Speaker 1: he was good for that. Walk probably still holding on 1352 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:40,200 Speaker 1: the motherfucker's reserves up there. 1353 01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:41,120 Speaker 2: They had the reserves. 1354 01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:47,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, returns and shit, you'll be a year later, Walk, 1355 01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,120 Speaker 1: When can we settle this? My nigga, ain't no CD's 1356 01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,200 Speaker 1: coming back now? Oh well, I don't know, man, because 1357 01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 1: they can come back at any time. 1358 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:53,679 Speaker 2: That's gay. 1359 01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:55,439 Speaker 1: It was just a great pier because I remember I 1360 01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,519 Speaker 1: would be able to go holler at Violet Brown directly. 1361 01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 1: She was one of the few buyers that would just 1362 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 1: it up and talk to independence anybody because she knew 1363 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:04,680 Speaker 1: the power of it. She knew she fucking around to 1364 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,160 Speaker 1: give some ship. She said, well, you know what, she 1365 01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:10,160 Speaker 1: would put motherfuckers in that Lakewood location when it was there, 1366 01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:14,040 Speaker 1: the Lakewood, the Arsenal Carson, the one by the mall 1367 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,760 Speaker 1: out there was the big mart Delamo went over there. 1368 01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,840 Speaker 3: She would try you out in certain ship and she 1369 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:20,720 Speaker 3: was good. It was just to me that was the 1370 01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,559 Speaker 3: gold near ship. The swap meets was always my favorite 1371 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,840 Speaker 3: man because, uh, mister Park said, when you when you 1372 01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,680 Speaker 3: sell her to the to the swap meets, they have 1373 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,200 Speaker 3: they got their they got their own little distribution thing. 1374 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,040 Speaker 3: You only could tell the one dude, wherever you open up, 1375 01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:38,000 Speaker 3: whoever starts buying from you first, that's the one you 1376 01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,040 Speaker 3: got to stick with. You try to go to the 1377 01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,400 Speaker 3: sloughsing you finish, get you finish, cancel all your ship. 1378 01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,880 Speaker 3: But they would buy so many, Okay, I mean, mister 1379 01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,760 Speaker 3: Park at long be swap meet, I mean a cop 1380 01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:55,479 Speaker 3: swap meet Steve Yano, Steve Ye when Steve. When I 1381 01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:59,360 Speaker 3: met Steve, I was selling bootlegs, okay, and bootlegs was 1382 01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,200 Speaker 3: like like mega mixes people, you know, we'd mash them 1383 01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,639 Speaker 3: all together, and shit, I thought Steve was FBI because 1384 01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:06,840 Speaker 3: on them, you know, I thought he was the FBI. 1385 01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:08,559 Speaker 3: I had never been an Asian dude. YEA gonna put 1386 01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,720 Speaker 3: in the moment he put everybody on Okay. But like 1387 01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:13,120 Speaker 3: I said, when I first met him, he was selling 1388 01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,880 Speaker 3: to buy an R and B shit. And I brought 1389 01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,840 Speaker 3: him to the Pad. He met Dre, he met Easy. 1390 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:19,880 Speaker 3: They all go to the swap Meet, started mixing it 1391 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:21,840 Speaker 3: and cube they used to they make it to swap meet, 1392 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,120 Speaker 3: and it just made for a hell of a situation. 1393 01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,120 Speaker 3: But I'm gonna say that he would he would buy 1394 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,280 Speaker 3: so many records for me, and one time I'd have 1395 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 3: to make a custom order just for him, as I 1396 01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,240 Speaker 3: had made so many bootlegs made, it must have been 1397 01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,080 Speaker 3: like fourteen to fifteen of them, so I'd had to 1398 01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:36,320 Speaker 3: you know, he'd give me an order, I need one 1399 01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,280 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty this. I would literally have to go 1400 01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,760 Speaker 3: down on Friday and make two trips just to get 1401 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,000 Speaker 3: his stuff. And then go back to see mister Park 1402 01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:46,519 Speaker 3: and everybody else. Man then with some good ass times, yes, 1403 01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,360 Speaker 3: and ain't then like some good old steak and ass money. 1404 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:51,479 Speaker 2: Used to do nothing like it shit. 1405 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,080 Speaker 1: It used to be all green man. I swear man 1406 01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,200 Speaker 1: one time. Man, I remember I made a run all 1407 01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,920 Speaker 1: the swap meets right. I did a swap meat run 1408 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,280 Speaker 1: because I used to have had the T shirts and 1409 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,120 Speaker 1: the motherfucker you know, CD's and shit dog. I made 1410 01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:06,200 Speaker 1: a swat meat run dog a winner. Saw a few 1411 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,280 Speaker 1: of my independent retailers. I came home one Saturday. Man 1412 01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,640 Speaker 1: was probably about twelve thousand dollars, just that quick dog. 1413 01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:12,960 Speaker 1: He ain't gone about four hours. 1414 01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,679 Speaker 3: I had a spot out in uh and see me valley. 1415 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:21,799 Speaker 3: I'd go to this Arab dude. I'd have a truckload 1416 01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:23,600 Speaker 3: of shit and I had a suburban back then, so 1417 01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,200 Speaker 3: ebend be full, come out to the parking lot, bucle bumper, 1418 01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,120 Speaker 3: hit the ground, cat, get to the spot, unload the shit, 1419 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,599 Speaker 3: and he would give me a check and I would 1420 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,639 Speaker 3: be nervous as fuck. He said, no, no, no, don't 1421 01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,840 Speaker 3: worry about it. Don't worry about it. He called his bank, 1422 01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,120 Speaker 3: tell him I'm coming his bank was in a building 1423 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,560 Speaker 3: on Beverly Hills on no Cannon drive up on like 1424 01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:46,320 Speaker 3: the second or third floor. No sign, says bank, no nothing, 1425 01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,479 Speaker 3: no tailers or nothing, no tailers or nothing. You you know, 1426 01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,320 Speaker 3: you walking through the door, and he says, go to 1427 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,559 Speaker 3: the suite right here, and it's a small little bank 1428 01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,479 Speaker 3: and they don't have a plexiglass and shit, they just 1429 01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,080 Speaker 3: got desk. And he made the phone call. And he 1430 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,439 Speaker 3: made the phone call to verify who I was. He says, yet, 1431 01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:03,880 Speaker 3: and she gave me a stack of money like it 1432 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,080 Speaker 3: wasn't shit, and you just walk out. I mean, it's 1433 01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:07,200 Speaker 3: it's just so different, man. 1434 01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you knew how I found about them bangs. Dog, 1435 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,280 Speaker 1: I got some crazy stories fucking with his music business. 1436 01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:12,479 Speaker 2: Dog. 1437 01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,680 Speaker 1: I met a motherfucker dog up in Hollywood Hills one night. Dog, 1438 01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 1: we had a meeting. Hey, you go with this Hollywood 1439 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,080 Speaker 1: hell shit. Ain't no weirdshit like, okay, man, no weird 1440 01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:24,719 Speaker 1: Hollywood hell story. 1441 01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,320 Speaker 3: This ain't no weird shit, ain't no pentagrams or no 1442 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:27,760 Speaker 3: shit like. 1443 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, good, okay. Ship. So I meet with this cat man. 1444 01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,559 Speaker 1: He actually was one of the co founders of Netflix, 1445 01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,000 Speaker 1: but he had got bought out or whatever. Like that, 1446 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:37,920 Speaker 1: and he would get like a I think he would 1447 01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,479 Speaker 1: get like a two million dollar chick every quarter. 1448 01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:42,320 Speaker 2: That was like his thing. Right. 1449 01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,880 Speaker 1: So but when I went to this dude's house, I 1450 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,000 Speaker 1: noticed he had a whole bunch of gang bangers living 1451 01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,479 Speaker 1: up there. I guess there was his protectors, right, and 1452 01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,720 Speaker 1: they was trying to stop niggas from talking to him. 1453 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:53,360 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. They was trying. 1454 01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:55,200 Speaker 1: So I go to meeting and then everybody in my 1455 01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:57,200 Speaker 1: face asked me what I'm doing up there in this net. 1456 01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:01,960 Speaker 1: So we meet and talking like that. So it was 1457 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:02,439 Speaker 1: a movie. 1458 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:04,240 Speaker 2: I had a script that he liked. 1459 01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,680 Speaker 1: Right, dude cut me in check that night, man for 1460 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,240 Speaker 1: like eighty five thousand dollars, right, he Oh, come back 1461 01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,920 Speaker 1: in another week. I'm gonna have another check for eighty five. 1462 01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 1: So I'm like, shit, we winning. I go right to 1463 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,000 Speaker 1: posits that motherfucker and the shit clear. The lady told me, 1464 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,760 Speaker 1: My Taylor told me, she said, you know, fucking with checks. 1465 01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,040 Speaker 1: I don't like fucking checks. I always give it to 1466 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,120 Speaker 1: my girl. A see if this motherfucker got the funds 1467 01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 1: in there. So yeah, she said, funds available. Now, the 1468 01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,200 Speaker 1: nigga that hooked me up with the nigga. I shoot 1469 01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,240 Speaker 1: him ten just that quick, like here you go, you 1470 01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,559 Speaker 1: know gone? Now you know this is all you get? 1471 01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:36,160 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 1472 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:38,760 Speaker 1: He get his tin or whatever. Dog we get on. 1473 01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,080 Speaker 1: I go to the bank dog like a week later 1474 01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,240 Speaker 1: for some shit. Dog we about to start shooting a movie. 1475 01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,320 Speaker 1: My bank account balance is like neggative sixty. I say, 1476 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,360 Speaker 1: what the fuck is a I'm like this, nigga, don't 1477 01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:55,240 Speaker 1: put a cancel a cancelation on a motherfucking check. That nigga, 1478 01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,240 Speaker 1: Glasses Malone. I go to this nigga's house. 1479 01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:57,559 Speaker 2: He don't. 1480 01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,360 Speaker 1: He ain't ask from the door. Them niggas is there, Like, man, 1481 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,040 Speaker 1: told you should have went through us. Man, he'd be 1482 01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:05,920 Speaker 1: doing shit like that, right, So it's a broad there. 1483 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:06,160 Speaker 2: Dog. 1484 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,679 Speaker 3: He buying motherfucker's cars and all kind of shit. 1485 01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:08,880 Speaker 2: Right. 1486 01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:10,919 Speaker 1: I go up there, man, I finally catch the motherfucker, 1487 01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,680 Speaker 1: Me and Glasses Malone. He can verify this story. We 1488 01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,320 Speaker 1: waded outside the motherfucking crib. I'm in one of the glasses. 1489 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,439 Speaker 1: He had this station wagon cause I ain't want the 1490 01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,040 Speaker 1: nigga to see my truck or nothing like that. 1491 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:20,800 Speaker 2: We catch him. 1492 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:25,800 Speaker 1: Glasses jump off the nigga, cauz, we need that bread, right, 1493 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,400 Speaker 1: so we catch the motherfucker. I grabbed the nigga, I. 1494 01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,680 Speaker 3: Put him my car. I said, nigga, we gonna go 1495 01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:31,840 Speaker 3: get that motherfucker money. 1496 01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:32,040 Speaker 2: Now. 1497 01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:36,640 Speaker 1: This nigga took me to three or four different motherfucking ATMs. 1498 01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,599 Speaker 1: We went to one ATM cause he had a lot 1499 01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,880 Speaker 1: of different accounts, right, and I didn't. That's when I 1500 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:43,800 Speaker 1: found out a nigga get as much money as they 1501 01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:46,720 Speaker 1: want to from ATM. He give me five thousand from 1502 01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:48,960 Speaker 1: that motherfucker. We going to banks. The last bank we 1503 01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,759 Speaker 1: went to was this bank. Dog like you talk about. 1504 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:53,599 Speaker 1: We go up and that motherfucker ain't no tailor's day. 1505 01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,120 Speaker 1: I thought this nigga was gonna call the police and 1506 01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:55,479 Speaker 1: some shit. 1507 01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:55,680 Speaker 2: Though. 1508 01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:57,599 Speaker 1: I thought we was gonna he's gonna call the police. 1509 01:15:58,520 --> 01:15:59,960 Speaker 1: He goes up in there. He give me the rest 1510 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,600 Speaker 1: to the motherfucking money man. But I don't fuck with 1511 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:06,000 Speaker 1: checks at all, dog, because of that ship. Don't fuck 1512 01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,920 Speaker 1: with him at all. My last check I took on 1513 01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:12,519 Speaker 1: the road. That motherfucker still bounce. Oh, Dog, you can't 1514 01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,160 Speaker 1: fuck with him because that's what I found out. What 1515 01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,400 Speaker 1: he did was he had the money. But if I 1516 01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:18,559 Speaker 1: give you a check to date, my nigga, you can 1517 01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:20,400 Speaker 1: cancelor check two months from now. 1518 01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:21,559 Speaker 2: Whenever you want to. 1519 01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:25,959 Speaker 1: Motherfucker cancelor check a wire, they can reverse that motherfucker 1520 01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:26,720 Speaker 1: whatever to try to. 1521 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:28,960 Speaker 2: But it's only so long. You can't reverse a wire. 1522 01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,040 Speaker 1: If I send you some money today, I can't go 1523 01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:34,920 Speaker 1: back two months from now and say, hey, man, I 1524 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:36,560 Speaker 1: want my money back. You know what I'm saying. You 1525 01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:38,880 Speaker 1: just can't do that shit dog. Well, this is what 1526 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:40,479 Speaker 1: I want to ask you. When to come to the 1527 01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,080 Speaker 1: frooking shit and everything? Man, when is the last time 1528 01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:48,479 Speaker 1: you talked to Unknown two days ago? You think he 1529 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:49,200 Speaker 1: can come on the show. 1530 01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:54,160 Speaker 3: No, No, he's will not do interviews. No, I had 1531 01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:57,559 Speaker 3: a podcast that he was on. He said, he said 1532 01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,560 Speaker 3: behind the camera the microphone. He will not come on 1533 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:05,280 Speaker 3: do an interview. He's never Yeah, he's never done. We done, 1534 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:06,240 Speaker 3: We did two, we did. 1535 01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:06,519 Speaker 2: Uh. 1536 01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:12,000 Speaker 3: We did one podcast together for Red Bull. And only 1537 01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:13,960 Speaker 3: reason why he did that one because it was no cameras. 1538 01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:19,720 Speaker 3: What is he doing? Is he still music associated? Put 1539 01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:21,800 Speaker 3: jumper cables on my nuts right now? I couldn't tell 1540 01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,320 Speaker 3: you if you shocked the ship out of my nuts 1541 01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:24,960 Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you. 1542 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:28,679 Speaker 1: We would love to have you come on the show man. 1543 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:34,639 Speaker 1: This is your personal invitations. Ain't nobody the loan man. 1544 01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,880 Speaker 1: Some niggas, some niggas just be at a peace man, 1545 01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:42,640 Speaker 1: whatever it be. Can my just at least get some acknowledgement. 1546 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,439 Speaker 2: You know what I want to tell you about this 1547 01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,919 Speaker 2: nigga is still okay unknown. 1548 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:53,360 Speaker 3: I will say this man, when y'all first, when we 1549 01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:57,400 Speaker 3: first signed y'all, me and him together. I know this 1550 01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,600 Speaker 3: happened because I did it with him. We had a 1551 01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,400 Speaker 3: little little cassette and at three at little three songs, 1552 01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:06,920 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, we would roll through Compton, through different hoods 1553 01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:09,679 Speaker 3: and get that cassette. That's how you promote the records 1554 01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,719 Speaker 3: back there. He didn't know where to go. I ain't 1555 01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,280 Speaker 3: getting paid on this ship. I ain't got my little change, okay, 1556 01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:17,200 Speaker 3: and he like Ben, come with me, come with me. 1557 01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:18,880 Speaker 3: So me and him would roll up and the cast 1558 01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,479 Speaker 3: are always grabbed the waistbands and shiit with y'all. Nigga, 1559 01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:22,200 Speaker 3: what's out? What's out? 1560 01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:22,400 Speaker 1: Man? 1561 01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,080 Speaker 3: Hold on them music, motherfucker music. It's like here, nigga, 1562 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,120 Speaker 3: take it. And that's how we got the comp most 1563 01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:33,040 Speaker 3: wanted thing promoted about Compton doing going going hood the 1564 01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,920 Speaker 3: hood or the wather. We could go to, yeah, hood 1565 01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:38,559 Speaker 3: the hood, putting this shit in there. 1566 01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:40,800 Speaker 2: We did the same ship and do we. 1567 01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:44,720 Speaker 3: Niggas was hitting their hitting their waistbands on us multiple times. Hell, 1568 01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:46,120 Speaker 3: old man, calm down, doctor. 1569 01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,120 Speaker 2: I had a box of them tapes and I would 1570 01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,719 Speaker 2: just roll through the hood just giving them out, giving 1571 01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 2: them out. 1572 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:57,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, just giving them motherfuckers away. Ship eight y'all. Damn 1573 01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,240 Speaker 1: there man. You know I was talking to Chill one 1574 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:00,360 Speaker 1: day he said, yore, damn. 1575 01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:08,240 Speaker 2: It wound up on death Row, the stories of death Row, 1576 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,800 Speaker 2: and you know, like you said, you would have to 1577 01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:15,240 Speaker 2: have Slipping Unknown tell you about those death Row days. Uh. 1578 01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:20,760 Speaker 2: I know that we all sat up at one time 1579 01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:26,680 Speaker 2: and a known told us that he was fucking with 1580 01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:31,519 Speaker 2: sugaring them and that they was finished started label and 1581 01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,120 Speaker 2: that they was looking for a name for it. I 1582 01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:37,160 Speaker 2: think we came up with death Row sitting up at 1583 01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:44,080 Speaker 2: Hamburger Hamlet one night. And I don't know how they 1584 01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:47,679 Speaker 2: ended up with it, because we it was a total different. 1585 01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,280 Speaker 2: It was d E f Row. Remember they had the 1586 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,760 Speaker 2: black coats and the good Fellow coats and all of that. Yeah, 1587 01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,840 Speaker 2: so like jam like death Jam. That's where we got 1588 01:19:58,880 --> 01:19:59,200 Speaker 2: it from. 1589 01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,360 Speaker 3: And I thought I heard that was a good ass name. Yeah, 1590 01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:06,840 Speaker 3: and then Sug. According to Yes, Sugar bought it from 1591 01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,640 Speaker 3: him and Jackson's death Row. They bought it so they 1592 01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:10,240 Speaker 3: wouldn't do it. 1593 01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,599 Speaker 2: So Unknown sold some shit that he didn't even think of. Well, 1594 01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,280 Speaker 2: we all thought of it. We were all at the 1595 01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:19,720 Speaker 2: table when we came because Unknown said that they were 1596 01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,360 Speaker 2: he had hooked up with Dre and Shug and they 1597 01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:25,479 Speaker 2: was finished try to you know, they were starting the 1598 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,439 Speaker 2: label and they were looking for it. So Unknone was like, 1599 01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:32,120 Speaker 2: you know, let's think of some names, because we as 1600 01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:36,080 Speaker 2: compt as most wanted. As the time, I don't know 1601 01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:39,240 Speaker 2: if we had our deal. You know, probably was getting 1602 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,760 Speaker 2: ready to play out with Orpheus or whatever. 1603 01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:43,640 Speaker 3: The studio with that black guy. 1604 01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:49,120 Speaker 2: Something alone came back with the black guy. Yeah, that 1605 01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:54,160 Speaker 2: was because he had took I think he had took 1606 01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:58,280 Speaker 2: money from Shug to start working on tracks, and you know, 1607 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:05,000 Speaker 2: most of the time Slipped did a lot of the tracks. Yeah, okay, 1608 01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:10,879 Speaker 2: so he took money from Sug to work on tracks 1609 01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:15,240 Speaker 2: for I think the Convicts were supposed to be the 1610 01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:22,680 Speaker 2: first group, but then we were in the middle of 1611 01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:27,040 Speaker 2: working on music to drive by, So that was his 1612 01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:31,439 Speaker 2: excuse for when he had to go up to Death 1613 01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:36,599 Speaker 2: Row and shug like Nigga with my beats. Oh well, 1614 01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:41,240 Speaker 2: I'm working on Conca's most wanted record right now. So yeah, 1615 01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,960 Speaker 2: but you took my money and that's how he got 1616 01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:47,519 Speaker 2: the black eye. That's that's apparently what I heard. 1617 01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:52,560 Speaker 3: It was Wrecking Crew. People always associated us together. I 1618 01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:56,400 Speaker 3: thought I forgot what it was. What his attorney's name, 1619 01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:02,479 Speaker 3: he's attorney for uh for did Griffy? He says, the 1620 01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:04,760 Speaker 3: record shug beat the record crew. No, no, no, no, 1621 01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:08,000 Speaker 3: no no no no, that was unknown. Yes, this is 1622 01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:11,439 Speaker 3: why I didn't fuck with that ship, because I don't. 1623 01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:15,880 Speaker 3: I don't respond well to that kind of shit. I've 1624 01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:19,360 Speaker 3: been there before. I know the simple ship can turn 1625 01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:23,240 Speaker 3: into a life or death situation. Definitely, that's serious for me. Okay, 1626 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,080 Speaker 3: that's why Nigga tap out, not because I'm a punk. 1627 01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:27,280 Speaker 3: I don't need the headache. 1628 01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:32,000 Speaker 2: All money ain't good money like that. You know, you 1629 01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:35,640 Speaker 2: gotta learn how to you know, I'm already making some 1630 01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:39,599 Speaker 2: decent money over here. You know. He he was making 1631 01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,920 Speaker 2: decent money with you know, the conscience most wanted deal. 1632 01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:48,680 Speaker 2: But you know, sometimes man, that it started looking a 1633 01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,439 Speaker 2: little better, you know what I'm saying. So he went 1634 01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,559 Speaker 2: over there. You know, he took money from from Sugar 1635 01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,400 Speaker 2: to do beats. And then most of the time, like 1636 01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,839 Speaker 2: I said, Slip was doing a lot of the production. 1637 01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:05,120 Speaker 2: So Slip had his hands full producing Comptor's Most Wanted 1638 01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:10,320 Speaker 2: music to Drive by Anne produced, but you know he 1639 01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:13,600 Speaker 2: was more the you know, hey, Slip, I'm gonna go 1640 01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:15,680 Speaker 2: get us this bread. I'm gonna go get us this 1641 01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:19,160 Speaker 2: you know, the deal, these beats for Sug. And then 1642 01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,640 Speaker 2: Anne was at the crib, you know, and chilling with 1643 01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:26,479 Speaker 2: the dog and Cindy and hey, you know it when 1644 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,320 Speaker 2: Sug probably caught him up there, like, man, where my 1645 01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:33,160 Speaker 2: beats at? And then Nigga told me the story. They 1646 01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:36,800 Speaker 2: said he called him into that room and he was like, man, 1647 01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:38,760 Speaker 2: you know, I think y'all don't know. We gave you 1648 01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:42,920 Speaker 2: about twenty twenty five grand. Where's my beats? He said, Well, 1649 01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:47,599 Speaker 2: you know, we busy working on comptors Most Wanted. Shug said, Man, 1650 01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:50,519 Speaker 2: don't give a fuck about Bompton's most Wanted. You know 1651 01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:54,160 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Where my beats, you know, and and 1652 01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:58,200 Speaker 2: they took off on him boot boom boom boom. Yeah, 1653 01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,240 Speaker 2: cause he came up to he came over with the 1654 01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:04,120 Speaker 2: slips the studio and we was like, why you got 1655 01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:07,120 Speaker 2: sunglasses on and it's night time, nigga, and you went 1656 01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,280 Speaker 2: inside the studio. It's dark as fuck is here. And 1657 01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:12,960 Speaker 2: I think he took the glasses off. And we was like, 1658 01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,360 Speaker 2: what the fuck happened to you my studio? I said, 1659 01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:21,120 Speaker 2: think what happened? Wrong place, wrong time? Yeah? Yeah, what 1660 01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:25,599 Speaker 2: happened that red wrong? That was That was the story. 1661 01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,880 Speaker 1: She ain't gotta feel bad, he ain't doingly nigga to 1662 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:29,880 Speaker 1: kick some black ass coming about that motherfucker. 1663 01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,000 Speaker 2: Now it is a bunch, Yeah, I heard it was 1664 01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,479 Speaker 2: a gang of niggas got their asses whooped up at 1665 01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,880 Speaker 2: that at that at that office, bunch of ass. Who 1666 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:40,080 Speaker 2: was going on? Is the worth of haffle? Oh? 1667 01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,840 Speaker 1: But you remember Happy for remember had with the one 1668 01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,439 Speaker 1: produced What was the manager name? I forget Happy's last 1669 01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:45,960 Speaker 1: name that you know? 1670 01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,080 Speaker 2: Happy? No, it was a kid. 1671 01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:52,240 Speaker 1: I think he was b Real's manager. He managed be 1672 01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,439 Speaker 1: Real them he got off the management game. They found 1673 01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:56,720 Speaker 1: that dude walking down wheelshir Man with his shirt off, 1674 01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,280 Speaker 1: like his shirt that got tore off of them. Man's 1675 01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:03,560 Speaker 1: halfway toward niggas walking down the street justo and just 1676 01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,600 Speaker 1: didn't And he said he wouldn't return none of his 1677 01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:10,599 Speaker 1: client's phone calls. Noth nigga just left the music industry. Yeah, 1678 01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,400 Speaker 1: shit ain't worth a dog. I'm gonna tell you, man, 1679 01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,439 Speaker 1: I've had some of the biggest kind of podcast podcasts 1680 01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,920 Speaker 1: that are used now on the paperwork. I just let 1681 01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,439 Speaker 1: niggas go dog because it ain't worth the fucking headaches 1682 01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:20,880 Speaker 1: they look. 1683 01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:23,479 Speaker 3: I had my DJ in back in the day and 1684 01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:26,080 Speaker 3: I had my clo at the club called the Current Affair, Right, 1685 01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,160 Speaker 3: niggas kids helf call up in the other niggas beefs. 1686 01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:31,960 Speaker 3: You'll get drugging some shit. Nigga. I've been playing the 1687 01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:35,920 Speaker 3: record I'm playing No Vaciline at the club, right, and people, 1688 01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,400 Speaker 3: the people on the floor is damnit because No Vazillen's 1689 01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,920 Speaker 3: probably one of the baddest fucking dish records far as 1690 01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:44,720 Speaker 3: dan floor period. Right, And this nigga walks into the 1691 01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,680 Speaker 3: walk to DJ booth and I got my headphones on. 1692 01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:50,040 Speaker 2: He talking shit, but I already paying no attention. 1693 01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,200 Speaker 3: Just shit and he and the nigga Tabby on my 1694 01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:53,960 Speaker 3: shoulder said, what's up? Dog Man? 1695 01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:54,840 Speaker 2: Took this shiit off? 1696 01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:58,720 Speaker 3: F you mean taking off damn floor pack took that 1697 01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:01,360 Speaker 3: shit off, man, And so the record kept on playing. 1698 01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,360 Speaker 3: By the time I got through argue with this nigga, 1699 01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:05,600 Speaker 3: the record already. 1700 01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:06,760 Speaker 2: Gone off with the nigga. What's up with you? 1701 01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:08,599 Speaker 3: Oh Man? That shit? 1702 01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:09,400 Speaker 2: This is my people? 1703 01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,920 Speaker 3: This and who Drey and cubed them? I mean Dre 1704 01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,599 Speaker 3: and I easing them? I said, do you know them? 1705 01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:16,160 Speaker 2: Na? Man? 1706 01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:19,519 Speaker 3: But that is just in my ship? Fuck that song, nigga. 1707 01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:24,840 Speaker 2: Theiggas takes shaped person fans take ship person Man. 1708 01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,160 Speaker 1: Shout out to mac t and man putting on an 1709 01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:31,320 Speaker 1: epic concert Man on Saturday night. Man, for sure, you 1710 01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:34,559 Speaker 1: know a got busy man. He had Homie cam up there, 1711 01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,799 Speaker 1: jail fell and the man Spice one Bone, Thugs, Harmony, 1712 01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:38,360 Speaker 1: the dog pun. 1713 01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:40,680 Speaker 2: It was cracking. Good night man. 1714 01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm going out the back of the club, right, I 1715 01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:46,600 Speaker 1: go to the back and I'm coming back in. Some 1716 01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:48,639 Speaker 1: nigga bump showed us with me. I'm thinking to somebody 1717 01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,800 Speaker 1: I know, right, and he whispered something in my ear. 1718 01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:52,439 Speaker 1: I don't hear him. Because we in emotion kind of. 1719 01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:54,600 Speaker 1: And I hear him say something about the show that 1720 01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:56,760 Speaker 1: I hear him mention one of the former co host names. 1721 01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:00,320 Speaker 1: So I turned around and say, man, what you say. No, 1722 01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,080 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm like nigga, do I know you? 1723 01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:08,080 Speaker 1: People insert themselves and the other people's bullshit. Man, it's 1724 01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:12,320 Speaker 1: more definitely don't lost their life, dog arguing behind some shit. 1725 01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,200 Speaker 1: They don't know nothing about your business. 1726 01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:20,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, your your opinion is, your opinion is not warranted 1727 01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:24,360 Speaker 2: by by fans and motherfuckers on serious shit because they 1728 01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:27,360 Speaker 2: take they take shit way to the left. Man. You know, 1729 01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:32,560 Speaker 2: because I get I've gotten comments about nigga. Fuck you 1730 01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,639 Speaker 2: because you made a comment about Tupac and the Huge 1731 01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:39,920 Speaker 2: Brothers movie and whatever happened to Tupac and whatever. Niggas 1732 01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,840 Speaker 2: hate When you just make references to their fame. 1733 01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:45,800 Speaker 1: You can't say nothing about Tupac. Dog, you say something 1734 01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:47,880 Speaker 1: about Tupac, niggas gonna be in your inbox. 1735 01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:51,760 Speaker 2: Dog, You a hater. You stay hating on Park. You 1736 01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:52,400 Speaker 2: don't know me. 1737 01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,200 Speaker 1: You don't know what I hate on Mark. I got 1738 01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:57,920 Speaker 1: playlists devoted to this nigga. Oh my motherfucker, you talking 1739 01:27:57,920 --> 01:27:59,840 Speaker 1: about hate Tupac. I don't got no reason to hate too. 1740 01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:06,120 Speaker 1: We are this show is about commentary and other people's opinions, definitely, 1741 01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:08,080 Speaker 1: And the motherfucker got a right to have an opinion, 1742 01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:10,760 Speaker 1: got right to have You only got an opinion. You 1743 01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:12,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it's motherfuckers. To tell me, it's 1744 01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:15,400 Speaker 1: motherfuckers that waste their time. Oh man, I don't fuck 1745 01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,160 Speaker 1: with the show no more because it is. But check 1746 01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:19,120 Speaker 1: you wont here every day? Here you come again with 1747 01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:20,120 Speaker 1: your same comment. 1748 01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:23,240 Speaker 3: I've had people man get on me trying to get 1749 01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:25,800 Speaker 3: my my co host, Dusty got to try to throw 1750 01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,360 Speaker 3: him off the ship. Nigga, you mad at Dusty because 1751 01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:30,960 Speaker 3: he says them, I put the casting off of my show. 1752 01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,280 Speaker 3: He sends them on his show that you didn't like. 1753 01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:34,600 Speaker 3: I don't even know you like that. 1754 01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,360 Speaker 2: What I'm saying, man, this shit, that's my dog. We 1755 01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:37,680 Speaker 2: do that. 1756 01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,840 Speaker 3: Oh check out our show, folks. N W A story 1757 01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:41,599 Speaker 3: for a line for every two every Tuesday at six 1758 01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,400 Speaker 3: o'clock and Dusty Vision he does his show forgot what 1759 01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:45,120 Speaker 3: that he does his show? 1760 01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:47,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, we got it going on. Oh for sure, 1761 01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,479 Speaker 1: I definitely know y'all do doing your thing over there, man, 1762 01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:52,360 Speaker 1: I want to ask you. I want to go back 1763 01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,080 Speaker 1: to see you, kind of like a history professor. 1764 01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:55,920 Speaker 2: Dog. Yeah that's what. Yeah, yeah, I. 1765 01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,719 Speaker 3: Am when it comes to West Coast hip hop history, 1766 01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:00,800 Speaker 3: the fuck early days? 1767 01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:08,120 Speaker 2: How did y'all all start? Like with the record shit? 1768 01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,799 Speaker 2: What made y'all? How did you be? Ain't unknown? From Detroit? 1769 01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,599 Speaker 2: Right from Detroit? Okay, So he came out here. 1770 01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,280 Speaker 3: When he came out here a bout seventy seven, he's 1771 01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:21,920 Speaker 3: about seventeen years old in that many he was seventeen nineteen. 1772 01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:27,080 Speaker 3: I'm sure than he his My record thing starts back 1773 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:31,519 Speaker 3: in Compton, right there on Walnut, although I passed by 1774 01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:34,320 Speaker 3: about the other day. Between Central and Wilmington. 1775 01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:35,439 Speaker 2: There used to be a. 1776 01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:40,160 Speaker 3: Place called Record Shock. They sold records to all the VIPs, 1777 01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:43,840 Speaker 3: and so I'm talking about the disco era seventies one 1778 01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:45,640 Speaker 3: stop then with a one stop. In factly with the 1779 01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:51,200 Speaker 3: one stop. I got a job. I first got Roger 1780 01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,640 Speaker 3: from Uncle Jams Army the job there first in the 1781 01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:57,000 Speaker 3: sales room. I'm a DJ. I'm a young DJ no records. 1782 01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,479 Speaker 3: I'm trying to buy records whole sale. I don't have 1783 01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,479 Speaker 3: a whole sale license, but I saw in the paper 1784 01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,760 Speaker 3: New Record Shack opened it up in Compton. So I 1785 01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:07,400 Speaker 3: called the people up to see what's happening. She just 1786 01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:09,880 Speaker 3: so happy. The dude to answer the phone his name 1787 01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:13,080 Speaker 3: was Elionzo too, so we we's got to kicking it. 1788 01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:17,160 Speaker 3: He offered me a job sight unseen. I said, no, allright, 1789 01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:19,639 Speaker 3: got a job. I'm working at Kenny's on Rubbleskansas Central. 1790 01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:22,479 Speaker 3: I'm slinging shoes and I got a good thing with 1791 01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:24,879 Speaker 3: my manager. I get off for fixt o'clock on Saturdays. 1792 01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:26,920 Speaker 3: She go, do my look my dj gigs and shit. 1793 01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:30,639 Speaker 3: So I called Roger Uncle Jam's army, turn him onto 1794 01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:33,439 Speaker 3: the job. He gets the job. A couple weeks later 1795 01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,280 Speaker 3: they called up. They got a part time position in 1796 01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:40,240 Speaker 3: the evening times, working in the warehouse. I take the job. 1797 01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,000 Speaker 3: So I got two jobs, actually got three jobs. I'm 1798 01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:45,599 Speaker 3: working there working Kenny's and I'm still DJing on the weekend. 1799 01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:49,880 Speaker 3: I'm twenty years old. I'm twenty. So now we're doing 1800 01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:51,439 Speaker 3: this shit back and forth. We rolle them back and 1801 01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:53,880 Speaker 3: forth to Record Shack. So at one point in time, 1802 01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:56,240 Speaker 3: I got a kid. Now I had a kid fresh 1803 01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:59,320 Speaker 3: out of high school. Her birthday was here a Gemini 1804 01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,559 Speaker 3: to Bird Day was Monday, Win, Saturday, Sunday, Sunday. 1805 01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:04,599 Speaker 2: She was she turned. 1806 01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:08,240 Speaker 3: She was born on the eleventh of June. I graduated 1807 01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,320 Speaker 3: high school on the on the twelfth of June. I 1808 01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:12,639 Speaker 3: turned eighteen on the sixteenth of June. My whole life 1809 01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:15,920 Speaker 3: and I've been grinding ever since. Okay, so now I 1810 01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,679 Speaker 3: got a kid. My dad got me a job working 1811 01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:22,360 Speaker 3: for cal Trans on the freeway. I'd have worked there 1812 01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:24,280 Speaker 3: in the summertime a couple of times. I didn't like 1813 01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:25,919 Speaker 3: that ship. That shit dangerous. 1814 01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:27,320 Speaker 2: I didn't like that ship either. 1815 01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:28,720 Speaker 3: Okay, you've been there. 1816 01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:30,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, because when you when you when you were youth 1817 01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:33,240 Speaker 2: and you get you go to jail. It's one of 1818 01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:36,479 Speaker 2: your punish cal Trans. Yeah, i'm working. I'm working on 1819 01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,960 Speaker 2: cal Trans on the sixth on five. Yeah. It wasn't 1820 01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:40,560 Speaker 2: a job that I went out for. 1821 01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:43,680 Speaker 3: I was I was getting paid for. I didn't like 1822 01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:44,880 Speaker 3: the motherfucker, Okay. 1823 01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:47,040 Speaker 2: And as was coming out of camp. So that's one 1824 01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:48,360 Speaker 2: of your punishments. 1825 01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:49,880 Speaker 3: So yeah, so I didn't want to go back to 1826 01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,280 Speaker 3: cal Trans. So I got a chance to go full time. 1827 01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:54,800 Speaker 3: And because my old man was kicking me in the ass, 1828 01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:56,800 Speaker 3: because I got this kid. He's like, man, you got 1829 01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:58,040 Speaker 3: you got to go out there to get to do 1830 01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:00,960 Speaker 3: the freeway ship make fuck. But offered me a full 1831 01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:04,880 Speaker 3: time job at Record Shack to sell record full time. 1832 01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:09,200 Speaker 3: I didn't worked at Cowtrans. I'm coming home dirty, smelling 1833 01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:12,600 Speaker 3: like goddamn freeway every day I didn't work. Now, I 1834 01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:14,400 Speaker 3: didn't got a taste of work of the office life. 1835 01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:16,599 Speaker 3: I go to work clean, come home clean, Nigga, still 1836 01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:20,640 Speaker 3: snipper like cologne and shit at five o'clock. So I 1837 01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:22,400 Speaker 3: want to do this shit. But I ain't making no money. 1838 01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:24,760 Speaker 3: I ain't making that much money. But I'm DJing on 1839 01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,200 Speaker 3: the weekend I'm getting I'm getting a one hundred and 1840 01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:32,599 Speaker 3: fifty every Friday, Saturday, sometimes Sunday. So I'm getting three 1841 01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:36,639 Speaker 3: hundred to four fifty every weekend. But I'm only I'm 1842 01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,680 Speaker 3: working full time at Record Shack. I'm bringing home one 1843 01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:43,519 Speaker 3: hundred and sixty six dollars a week. Nigga, I'm the 1844 01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:47,400 Speaker 3: math is bad. I'm working three days making full fifty, 1845 01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:51,760 Speaker 3: working Fridays making a hundred and sixty six. But what 1846 01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,120 Speaker 3: changed the game for me was I didn't care about 1847 01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:56,840 Speaker 3: the little paycheck. I'd go on the warehouse pull all 1848 01:32:56,920 --> 01:33:01,200 Speaker 3: my records for my parties on the weekend. They was 1849 01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:03,280 Speaker 3: paying me one hundred and sixty six. By the time 1850 01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:06,120 Speaker 3: I get all my records, double copies, and shit, I'm 1851 01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:09,840 Speaker 3: talking up with fifteen dollars. Sometime twenty dollars. I got 1852 01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:12,880 Speaker 3: a brand new van. I'm cleaning the chitling every damn day. 1853 01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:16,600 Speaker 3: They thought I was stealing, so I had but I 1854 01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:18,720 Speaker 3: had a hustle my own man, and I told him 1855 01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:20,040 Speaker 3: my own man I was I wasn't gonna work for 1856 01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:21,920 Speaker 3: cal Trans because he was the king of cal Trans. 1857 01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,559 Speaker 3: Back then, I worked for this record company. We filled 1858 01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:28,519 Speaker 3: the fuck out, we fell out. I been I been 1859 01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:31,560 Speaker 3: number one son champ all my life. That night I 1860 01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:33,560 Speaker 3: told him I wasn't gonna work for cal Trans. I 1861 01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:36,320 Speaker 3: was a stupid, dumb motherfucker with a kid. It's gonna 1862 01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:38,280 Speaker 3: be homeless if you don't get your shit together. Fuck you, 1863 01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:40,360 Speaker 3: I'm trying to put you in a position to do shit. 1864 01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:43,599 Speaker 3: He cuss me out. I go work for Record Shack, 1865 01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:47,040 Speaker 3: But when I'm at Record Shack, I go back. When 1866 01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:49,760 Speaker 3: I go back to Record Shack, I'm in the sales room. 1867 01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:55,439 Speaker 3: I met Calvin the VIP. I met kleaders. I met 1868 01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:59,320 Speaker 3: all these fucking v all these independent record stores in Nevada, 1869 01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:04,040 Speaker 3: in Washington, d C. I mean Washington, Seattle, Washington, Arizona. 1870 01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,160 Speaker 3: That the was on my accounts clean is on the 1871 01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:08,840 Speaker 3: one stop he was. He was on big bends, was 1872 01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:11,240 Speaker 3: bigger than the one stop he was. He damned was 1873 01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:12,519 Speaker 3: a b He was damn there with a one stop 1874 01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:15,000 Speaker 3: at one time. You're talking about John Over on Main Street. 1875 01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:15,719 Speaker 3: He had a one stop. 1876 01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, well but no Clevelands that opened up some ship 1877 01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,760 Speaker 1: like in the nineties, remember the ship they had in 1878 01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:21,920 Speaker 1: Lamur Park moved the sh. 1879 01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:23,800 Speaker 3: Oh yea yea yea yeah, yah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, 1880 01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:24,479 Speaker 3: you're right. You at that. 1881 01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:27,920 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know I Pete Records. That's 1882 01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:30,040 Speaker 1: little shout out to the little Homi abb. So it's 1883 01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:30,439 Speaker 1: on TV. 1884 01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:31,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1885 01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,200 Speaker 3: He was his awful that's his family. He was getting 1886 01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:35,880 Speaker 3: so many records he was aboule to take. They would 1887 01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:38,280 Speaker 3: take a goddamn semi trucks parking in the back of 1888 01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:40,400 Speaker 3: the lot. Let them unload the motherfucker. He was buying 1889 01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:42,280 Speaker 3: so many he was moving so much product back then. 1890 01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:46,599 Speaker 3: But when I left Record Shock, when I got fired, 1891 01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:49,519 Speaker 3: finally got fired. I kept my record list all my 1892 01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:52,840 Speaker 3: stores and ship about two. A couple of years later, 1893 01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:56,040 Speaker 3: I opened the Eve after Dark. Right before I opened 1894 01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:59,320 Speaker 3: The Eve after Dark, being Unknown started doing these bootleg mixes. 1895 01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:04,960 Speaker 3: So I called all my old accounts, Cleatis and Kelvin 1896 01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:09,639 Speaker 3: to sell these bootlegs. So I'm in the record business now, Okay, 1897 01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:12,400 Speaker 3: I'm going to the swap meets. I'm making a shitload 1898 01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:14,840 Speaker 3: of money and I got the Eve after Dark. So 1899 01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,640 Speaker 3: I created my own little distribution network back in like 1900 01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:21,920 Speaker 3: eighty two. But I'm but I'm making these records. These 1901 01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:25,960 Speaker 3: the technically illegal low Technically, I don't know what the 1902 01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,200 Speaker 3: penalty is. All I know is on every record you 1903 01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:33,920 Speaker 3: see it says federal copyright. Federal means penitentiary Feds. I'm 1904 01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,639 Speaker 3: thinking I'm going to the Fed's okay, So I wanted 1905 01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:39,720 Speaker 3: to go legit. I bring in Run DMC at Eve 1906 01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:45,000 Speaker 3: after Dark. Run the first. I'm bringing Curtains Blow, Curtis Blow, 1907 01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:47,240 Speaker 3: A great show. We're still cool today. Behind that shit. 1908 01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:51,080 Speaker 3: I bring in Run DMC. They ain't shit in LA yet. 1909 01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:54,920 Speaker 3: They cost me five hundred dollars, three plane tickets and 1910 01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:58,800 Speaker 3: hotel rooms. I bring up to the Eve. They rock 1911 01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:01,360 Speaker 3: the Eve, but they didn't do all that good. They 1912 01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:03,479 Speaker 3: wasn't like Curtis Blow. Curtis blow. You know, he got 1913 01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:08,800 Speaker 3: the party cuts. When Run DMC rocked the crowd, run 1914 01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:11,240 Speaker 3: they only they played for fifteen minutes. I'm like, nigga, 1915 01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:14,599 Speaker 3: that's it. Curtis did like thirty five minutes, fifteen minutes, 1916 01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:18,680 Speaker 3: nigga two songs, and then Run did the ultimate fuck up. 1917 01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:21,640 Speaker 3: He dropped my mic and broke the motherfucker nigga still drop. 1918 01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:24,680 Speaker 3: That's to say, he dropped my mic and broke them 1919 01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:28,800 Speaker 3: like what runs house. When he broke my mic, pissed 1920 01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,680 Speaker 3: me off. He broke my mike. He pissed me off. 1921 01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:34,720 Speaker 3: And that's when I make mom goddamn group fucking. By 1922 01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:37,320 Speaker 3: the time I make Clientele, Yellow was already there and 1923 01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:39,080 Speaker 3: we started. I knew how to make records. 1924 01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:40,400 Speaker 2: We made. 1925 01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:43,640 Speaker 3: Our first song was called Slice okay, and you know, 1926 01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:47,120 Speaker 3: you know, I remember you remember Surgery was the first one. 1927 01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:50,400 Speaker 3: Slice sized just like like a run DMC record, But 1928 01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:53,240 Speaker 3: it wasn't. It wasn't West Coast. It was East Coast 1929 01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:57,320 Speaker 3: Vive and this shit might have went illuminum okay, But 1930 01:36:57,560 --> 01:37:00,160 Speaker 3: that was our introduction to the record business. And then 1931 01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:02,880 Speaker 3: by that time Dre was on the crew and we 1932 01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:07,639 Speaker 3: made uh, we went on made surgery shit, Drake, Drake 1933 01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:11,559 Speaker 3: coming to fod crazy part. Me and Dre grew up 1934 01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:15,040 Speaker 3: on the same street, three little four houses down for me. 1935 01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:19,360 Speaker 3: But he's eight years younger than me, his dad and 1936 01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:24,120 Speaker 3: my older sister with all partners, So I knew all 1937 01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:26,320 Speaker 3: his uncles and shit. I used to, you know, hang 1938 01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:28,160 Speaker 3: out with his uncles and shit. So when I come 1939 01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,240 Speaker 3: to and I'll open the eve. I opened the eve. 1940 01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:34,920 Speaker 3: I'm twenty two, by mean talking about mee, Dre, I'm 1941 01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:39,000 Speaker 3: twenty four. A couple of years after open the eve 1942 01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:44,360 Speaker 3: up right, he's sixteen maybe seventeen, Okay, So he wants 1943 01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:46,800 Speaker 3: to come into the club with easy and I'm like, 1944 01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:50,360 Speaker 3: because at that time, the dress code for clubs was 1945 01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:53,960 Speaker 3: pimped out and have hard throw shoes and you know, 1946 01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:57,360 Speaker 3: a cottage shirt, slacks. It wasn't on jens and tennis 1947 01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,840 Speaker 3: shoes back then. They come up wearing jeans and tennis shoes. 1948 01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:02,120 Speaker 3: Y'all can't come in. And Dre hit me, hey man, 1949 01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:03,840 Speaker 3: you know you know my people do blah blah blah. 1950 01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:06,639 Speaker 3: Deborah and Floyd and Lloyd than my uncles. Oh okay, 1951 01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:08,479 Speaker 3: cool man, tell you what change your clothes? Come back 1952 01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:12,519 Speaker 3: you good to go. Because technically the Eve I had 1953 01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:15,559 Speaker 3: it eighteen and over. Drey was too young, but because 1954 01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:17,599 Speaker 3: I knew his people, I could give him a pass. 1955 01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:20,800 Speaker 3: I could do that. It was eighteen because I made 1956 01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:23,880 Speaker 3: it eighteen. I didn't want the motherfucker to be Rumper Room. 1957 01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,240 Speaker 3: I'd rather be more like Soul trained than Rumper Room. 1958 01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:28,439 Speaker 3: Too many young kids, you know, she'd get to running 1959 01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:29,880 Speaker 3: around and want to play tagging shit. 1960 01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:30,240 Speaker 2: Fuck that. 1961 01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,519 Speaker 3: So I made it eighteen and over to keep it, 1962 01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:37,120 Speaker 3: you know, keep it on the on the grown shitphisticated, sophisticated, 1963 01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:40,479 Speaker 3: thank you. And when he came back, I let him up, 1964 01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:44,280 Speaker 3: but Easy still was dressed street Nah, you can't come in, 1965 01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:46,400 Speaker 3: and he got to talk and shit, so I nigga 1966 01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:47,799 Speaker 3: get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. 1967 01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:49,240 Speaker 2: Easy was talking shit. 1968 01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:51,120 Speaker 3: You're talking. Oh, I can't this Eve up the dark. 1969 01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:53,240 Speaker 3: I gotta done. Yes, you do, motherfucker. If you want 1970 01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:55,760 Speaker 3: come in my spot, you do. And people think me 1971 01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:57,880 Speaker 3: and Easy hated. No, we didn't hate each other. We 1972 01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:01,040 Speaker 3: both too shit talking motherfuckers. So he talked shit. I 1973 01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:03,920 Speaker 3: talked ship back to him. Even after he got paid, 1974 01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:06,920 Speaker 3: we still talked shit to each other. Little motherfucker, give 1975 01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:09,599 Speaker 3: me my goddamn money. Oh, Jerry curR, nigga, you got 1976 01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:12,280 Speaker 3: a Jerry Cole to your ship, nigga like mine. So 1977 01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:15,120 Speaker 3: this is kind of this is the kind of relationship 1978 01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:18,880 Speaker 3: being easy. Easy came to my house after he was rich, 1979 01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:22,280 Speaker 3: after he was paid. The nigga still came by the path. 1980 01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:25,640 Speaker 3: Nobody else did that. Nobody else come by the hung 1981 01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:27,800 Speaker 3: out the path because Yeller was doing them pornos in 1982 01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:30,519 Speaker 3: the studio. Easy would come by and hang the fuck out. 1983 01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:33,960 Speaker 2: So, so Yeller was doing the pornos over your career. 1984 01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:35,880 Speaker 3: He started doing this porn. He started his port career 1985 01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:37,120 Speaker 3: at my house in the studio. 1986 01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:39,200 Speaker 1: That nigga Yellow. I saw porn on that nigga had. 1987 01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:41,120 Speaker 1: One day he had a broad on that was about 1988 01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:42,200 Speaker 1: seventy years old. 1989 01:39:44,560 --> 01:40:02,720 Speaker 2: Damn hell hell man, that ye like seven. Oh, I'll 1990 01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:04,559 Speaker 2: tell you about this shit, man. 1991 01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:11,680 Speaker 3: So it comes to I gotta tell cats man. A 1992 01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:14,160 Speaker 3: lot of the cats that I worked with don't know 1993 01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:15,960 Speaker 3: my history. Man, They don't know how deep I go 1994 01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:19,000 Speaker 3: on this shit. You know, I can't get mad at 1995 01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:23,040 Speaker 3: dre for not knowing, for not being more appreciative of 1996 01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:25,040 Speaker 3: what I had to go through, because he don't fucking know. 1997 01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:29,639 Speaker 3: Cub talk about me more than anybody cbe. He understands 1998 01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:30,360 Speaker 3: I just some shit. 1999 01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:31,320 Speaker 2: He don't know. 2000 01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:37,639 Speaker 3: You got to understand. I'm sixty five. I'm twelve years 2001 01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:41,080 Speaker 3: older than Cube. When I opened the Eve, I'm twenty two. 2002 01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:47,559 Speaker 3: Cube is fucking ten twelve, he's twelve, Okay, Why would 2003 01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:49,000 Speaker 3: the twelve year old motherfucker be hanging out with a 2004 01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:51,960 Speaker 3: twenty year old motherfucker. Drake couldn't even come to the 2005 01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:55,160 Speaker 3: club initially till a couple of years later, and don't 2006 01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:57,200 Speaker 3: even when he got in then because I knew his people, 2007 01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:02,360 Speaker 3: see what I'm saying. So it's they weren't around in 2008 01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:05,559 Speaker 3: the early days of West Coast hip hop. When I'm 2009 01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:08,080 Speaker 3: doing these doing these gigs three four times a weekend. 2010 01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:11,120 Speaker 3: They didn't carry no twelve hundreds with me. They carried 2011 01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:13,960 Speaker 3: it eventually, they didn't have to carry it. They didn't 2012 01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:15,760 Speaker 3: have to worry about the ship I had to go through, 2013 01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:18,160 Speaker 3: you know, the crazy, the fucked up promotors and shit 2014 01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:19,760 Speaker 3: like that. But by the time they got to be 2015 01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:23,479 Speaker 3: I was specializing in school dancing for Compton Hyde Centennial verb. 2016 01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:25,519 Speaker 3: They and shit they were doing all that shit now 2017 01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:27,880 Speaker 3: with you and Easy being as tight as y'all was, 2018 01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:29,040 Speaker 3: because y'all was friends. 2019 01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:29,639 Speaker 2: It's cool. 2020 01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:32,800 Speaker 1: No, y'all was cool. When you saw the manner in 2021 01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:35,280 Speaker 1: which he died. Man, did that kind of raise some real. 2022 01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:37,960 Speaker 3: Flag, red flag still flagging phill blowing in the wind 2023 01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:40,680 Speaker 3: right to this day. Because one thing I think about man, 2024 01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:42,000 Speaker 3: shout out the Easy Man. 2025 01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:42,800 Speaker 2: You know what all him? 2026 01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:45,400 Speaker 1: You know, he's one of the godfathers of his gangster shit. 2027 01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:46,920 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, was the godfather of the 2028 01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:47,559 Speaker 1: gangster shit. 2029 01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:49,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. 2030 01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:55,240 Speaker 1: When you think about that man, like with the amount 2031 01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:58,840 Speaker 1: of kids he got, ain't nobody came up sick. I 2032 01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:01,320 Speaker 1: ain't seen nothing one because Easy was out there. Easy 2033 01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:04,320 Speaker 1: was getting that little house he had a Northwalk. I've 2034 01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:05,600 Speaker 1: been over there a couple of times. You know what 2035 01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:07,599 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, the bus up under the six o five. 2036 01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:09,360 Speaker 1: You like the house of remember that you have been 2037 01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:11,439 Speaker 1: over the house eight No, I knew about it. 2038 01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:12,080 Speaker 2: I never went. 2039 01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:14,800 Speaker 1: I went over there one time with actually just ran 2040 01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:16,599 Speaker 1: into one of my homies. He was signed to him 2041 01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:18,880 Speaker 1: because you know, a ruthless had a gang of niggas 2042 01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:22,599 Speaker 1: signed the roof never came out. One of my partners man, 2043 01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:24,160 Speaker 1: he had took me in the homie over there one 2044 01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:27,519 Speaker 1: day and when I tell you, it was BRA's running 2045 01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:32,120 Speaker 1: out that motherfucker dog. It was cracking. Nobody came up sick, 2046 01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:35,800 Speaker 1: my nigga, and it's just the manner and they said it, 2047 01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:37,599 Speaker 1: and they said the man had just got a life 2048 01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:41,240 Speaker 1: insurance policy like two or three months earlier. I don't 2049 01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,760 Speaker 1: think the AIDS virus operate like that, my nigga. He 2050 01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:46,320 Speaker 1: didn't even get the half HIV. It's just like this niggas. 2051 01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:47,639 Speaker 1: All of a sudden he died of AIDS. 2052 01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:50,320 Speaker 2: Dude. 2053 01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:53,920 Speaker 3: I remember the first person I ever heard die from age. 2054 01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:57,840 Speaker 3: It was Rock Hutson back of the day. And for 2055 01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:00,840 Speaker 3: that man seven eight months, we give you a blow 2056 01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:04,720 Speaker 3: by blow description of his condition as he died from 2057 01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:07,840 Speaker 3: age on the fucking news every day and this record 2058 01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:10,040 Speaker 3: wrestling comfort of me just beverly hilled home as he 2059 01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:11,640 Speaker 3: suffered from the effective. 2060 01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:13,000 Speaker 2: AIDS And this, I mean, I was like, when is 2061 01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:14,920 Speaker 2: mother gonna die? Okay? 2062 01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,320 Speaker 3: Easy and Magic had had that ship at the same time. 2063 01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:21,320 Speaker 3: Magic ain't never turned into age Magic had HIV now 2064 01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:25,640 Speaker 3: he's undetectable, right, and they both had money at the 2065 01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:32,719 Speaker 3: same time. Very suspicious die, very suspicious man. Who would 2066 01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:37,120 Speaker 3: want Easy then? Yet though, dog, oh no, dude. You 2067 01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:40,360 Speaker 3: know there's a lot of conspiracy theories. Some people said 2068 01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:42,080 Speaker 3: it was sure because she'd have made that stupid ass 2069 01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:45,599 Speaker 3: comment on NARTHENI or Hall show about to eat either 2070 01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:47,400 Speaker 3: eat thing with the jab That was kind of stupid. 2071 01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:51,680 Speaker 3: But then they then people looked at the timelines. He 2072 01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:54,600 Speaker 3: wasn't sure was not in contact with Easy. If you 2073 01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:58,280 Speaker 3: ask kid Froth, Easy was trying to do that acupuncture. 2074 01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:01,000 Speaker 3: He felt that somebody made it got to the acupuncture. 2075 01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:04,360 Speaker 1: You know, it was all kind of even if a 2076 01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:06,640 Speaker 1: motherfucker did hit him with the shit with the acupuncture, 2077 01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:09,479 Speaker 1: he's gonna go. He might very well still be alive. 2078 01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:13,840 Speaker 3: Should have been I mean, it should have had HIV first, that's. 2079 01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,000 Speaker 2: Right, you know what I'm saying. It's just just a stage. 2080 01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:20,120 Speaker 2: It just went too fucking dramatically quick for it. Uh, 2081 01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:23,040 Speaker 2: you know that's the part that always shook people up. 2082 01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:25,439 Speaker 2: I don't know if I tell you that, but I'm 2083 01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:27,439 Speaker 2: in the process of getting the street name after the Easy, right, 2084 01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:30,439 Speaker 2: now we've already got the paperwork done. In fact that 2085 01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:32,040 Speaker 2: I'm waiting on the email right now from the City 2086 01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:34,640 Speaker 2: Manager of Compton to find out what when I go 2087 01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:37,519 Speaker 2: before the city City Council, uh, to get it to proof. 2088 01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:40,519 Speaker 3: It's already been taken to your approved. Everybody said they 2089 01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:43,760 Speaker 3: gonna vote for it. I've always talked to everybody. He said, no, 2090 01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:45,880 Speaker 3: no problem, no problem, But we got to go before 2091 01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:49,000 Speaker 3: the city Council to do an actual but on the agenda, 2092 01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:51,840 Speaker 3: get an actual vote on it and make it happen. 2093 01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:54,200 Speaker 3: I gave I put a big A and little E 2094 01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:54,479 Speaker 3: on it. 2095 01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:57,160 Speaker 2: Up on the game surprise that hasn't been done, you 2096 01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:57,400 Speaker 2: know what. 2097 01:44:57,520 --> 01:44:59,640 Speaker 3: They tried it before, man and for some reason they 2098 01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:02,320 Speaker 3: couldn't get it passed. But I think now because with 2099 01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:05,439 Speaker 3: the fifty anniversary of hip hop right and uh, you know, 2100 01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:07,280 Speaker 3: I'm pushing for it because I'm the president of the 2101 01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:10,479 Speaker 3: Compton Entertainment Chamber of Commerce. I'm working on the Walker Fame, 2102 01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:12,320 Speaker 3: my Hall of Fame with some other things in Compton, 2103 01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:14,200 Speaker 3: and that's one of the first things I'm doing. I mean, 2104 01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:17,200 Speaker 3: that's why I again, I'm just doing what the fuck 2105 01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:20,200 Speaker 3: I do right now, that's on my platform to get 2106 01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:21,720 Speaker 3: people recognized. 2107 01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:26,880 Speaker 1: When it comes to rappers, dog especially out of southern California. 2108 01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:31,599 Speaker 1: The city of Compton has produced more MC's. You got 2109 01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:34,000 Speaker 1: this man right here sitting next to us, right right, 2110 01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:36,880 Speaker 1: You got him, You got Tiny T, you got King 2111 01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:38,920 Speaker 1: T from the legendary niggas. 2112 01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:39,960 Speaker 2: On up the new ken Kendrid. 2113 01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:43,040 Speaker 3: I got a question for you, who's the first Who's 2114 01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:45,240 Speaker 3: the first musical group out of Compton? 2115 01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:47,759 Speaker 2: You know, the first musical group out of Compton? 2116 01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:52,439 Speaker 3: Bad motherfuckers too. I couldn't tell you they're about no busters, 2117 01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:53,600 Speaker 3: talk about some bad motherfuckers. 2118 01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:57,040 Speaker 2: Most people don't know they rappers or no singers, singers 2119 01:45:57,080 --> 01:45:57,479 Speaker 2: they sing? 2120 01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:01,760 Speaker 1: I know it's a who isn't war warriors some comp 2121 01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:05,000 Speaker 1: out of Compton, baby warrior, some bad motherfucker motherfuckers. 2122 01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:08,280 Speaker 2: Did you know? Hell no, we most don't know that. Man. 2123 01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:11,720 Speaker 2: I play I play that ship like regularly. 2124 01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:12,960 Speaker 3: That's the ship. 2125 01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:15,839 Speaker 2: The world is a ghetto on all man, I'm on, dude. 2126 01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:18,120 Speaker 3: That this is ship. Don't let don't let nobody get 2127 01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:21,840 Speaker 3: you down. I'm doing what I'm doing now. I'm a 2128 01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:24,960 Speaker 3: grown ass arp carry motherfucker. I ain't did a gig 2129 01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:26,519 Speaker 3: and that in two years. I'm looking to do some 2130 01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:28,519 Speaker 3: more shit, just have some fun. But in the meantime, 2131 01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:31,439 Speaker 3: I'm trying to get people recognized. Man, put them up 2132 01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:31,920 Speaker 3: on from history. 2133 01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:33,840 Speaker 1: Dude. Well, you know what, though, it definitely need to 2134 01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:35,639 Speaker 1: be a walker fame in Compton. Where you talking about 2135 01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:36,559 Speaker 1: putting that right there? 2136 01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:39,240 Speaker 3: My walker fame, I'm looking to put that by the 2137 01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:41,519 Speaker 3: transit center, right behind the high center, right by the 2138 01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:44,439 Speaker 3: train station, first trade station. It's a big old area 2139 01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:47,400 Speaker 3: out there. Ain't nothing in that, motherfucker. It's a building, 2140 01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:49,720 Speaker 3: a brand new building. Ain't nobody in the building. I'm 2141 01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:53,720 Speaker 3: working with the city, uh the Metro, and. 2142 01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:57,519 Speaker 2: Shit, why don't you think the city has never done 2143 01:46:57,560 --> 01:47:00,240 Speaker 2: that for none of us artists out of this city 2144 01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:00,839 Speaker 2: of Compton. 2145 01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:03,960 Speaker 3: You know what, dude, That's why I formed the Compton 2146 01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:07,000 Speaker 3: Entertainment Chamber of Commerce because the City of Compton got 2147 01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:13,639 Speaker 3: so much ship to do, like potholes, trees, that city 2148 01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:17,600 Speaker 3: council got shipped to do. Where you know, if they 2149 01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:20,920 Speaker 3: start building walker fans and ship without without having a 2150 01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:23,880 Speaker 3: third party doing that ship, what about these potholes, motherfucker? 2151 01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:25,920 Speaker 2: Because that's just how we get. 2152 01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:29,800 Speaker 3: Kind of like me who've been doing shit in Compton forever. 2153 01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:33,760 Speaker 3: Could go to a sponsor if I can get once 2154 01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:36,639 Speaker 3: I get permission, hey we're gonna put We're gonna put 2155 01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:38,360 Speaker 3: the Walker fame right here. I can go to a 2156 01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:42,519 Speaker 3: sponsor and say, hey, look, Nike, whoever I need, I 2157 01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:44,639 Speaker 3: need the sponsor for this walker fame for these folks 2158 01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:48,280 Speaker 3: out of Compton do it just like they do, uh, 2159 01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:54,400 Speaker 3: the Staples Center or or Crypto Center. It's the Compton 2160 01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:57,479 Speaker 3: Walker fans sponsored by the Crypto Center or whoever. That's 2161 01:47:57,520 --> 01:48:00,400 Speaker 3: the that's the plan. So but it takes a lot 2162 01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:05,200 Speaker 3: of fucking effort. I'm organish for two years. It's taking 2163 01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:10,400 Speaker 3: six months to get from the first yes to where 2164 01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:12,160 Speaker 3: we are right now, which is easy. I'm trying to 2165 01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:13,320 Speaker 3: get it done by his birthday. 2166 01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:16,519 Speaker 2: And you would think that people who knew the history 2167 01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:20,800 Speaker 2: of what artists and what entertainers have done for the city, 2168 01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:24,800 Speaker 2: that it would be like a unanimous thing like yeah, 2169 01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:29,240 Speaker 2: you would think yeah, but yeah, but like you said, 2170 01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:32,599 Speaker 2: you know, niggas in the city would be like, niggas, shit, 2171 01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:36,840 Speaker 2: we need potholes fixed. This ship y'all trying to Y're 2172 01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:40,000 Speaker 2: trying to beautify a Walk of fame. Nigga it's fucking 2173 01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:43,519 Speaker 2: knee deep potholes around here. Hell yeah. 2174 01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:46,360 Speaker 1: But still though, you want to see some good life 2175 01:48:46,360 --> 01:48:48,719 Speaker 1: in the city, man, because you got all the other shit, 2176 01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:51,360 Speaker 1: you got just more positive ship to come out of company. 2177 01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:54,160 Speaker 3: The niggas they got you real right, I mean when 2178 01:48:54,160 --> 01:48:56,360 Speaker 3: you got some of the biggest and baddest people veat 2179 01:48:56,439 --> 01:49:00,519 Speaker 3: us and meaning Drake, Kendrick, bim w All these folks 2180 01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:03,160 Speaker 3: come out of Compton, man, War as you mentioned, George 2181 01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:05,639 Speaker 3: Bush used to live at one time. Kevin Constant come 2182 01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:07,280 Speaker 3: out of Compton. You got you got all kind of 2183 01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:09,000 Speaker 3: cats where war would happen. 2184 01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:09,320 Speaker 2: Dog. 2185 01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:11,960 Speaker 1: I think Long Beach was laying claimed the War for 2186 01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:13,960 Speaker 1: a minute, because I think I saw something about that 2187 01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:15,640 Speaker 1: that they was from Loan Beach or something like that. 2188 01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:20,120 Speaker 3: War used to be the house band at Jefty's before 2189 01:49:20,240 --> 01:49:23,439 Speaker 3: they became War. They would called something else. I forgot 2190 01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:26,800 Speaker 3: the name of him, but they were the house band. 2191 01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:31,400 Speaker 3: I met Howard and Lonnie at Jeoffty's before Jeffy died 2192 01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:33,840 Speaker 3: years ago and talked about I used to play. They 2193 01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:35,800 Speaker 3: used to play at Jefty's. All of them more than 2194 01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:37,680 Speaker 3: from Compton, but enough of them were from Compton High 2195 01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:40,800 Speaker 3: School to justify. Men from Compton High School came up. 2196 01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:42,800 Speaker 3: They asked some of me k from Long Beach. I'm 2197 01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:43,120 Speaker 3: not sure. 2198 01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes sense to neighboring cities and laying the 2199 01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:49,720 Speaker 1: band together exactly everybody people coming up. Have you had 2200 01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:51,160 Speaker 1: members that was from Inglewood? 2201 01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:55,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike t was from Inglewood, Ship Slip was from 2202 01:49:55,760 --> 01:50:00,160 Speaker 2: fucking what Harthorne GUARDENA Yeah, yeah, and. 2203 01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:03,280 Speaker 3: You ain't see it was from Common So yeah, but 2204 01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:06,080 Speaker 3: you know, they always gonna claim Compton, Compton Man in 2205 01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:09,080 Speaker 3: the city of Compton has global recognition. 2206 01:50:09,560 --> 01:50:10,120 Speaker 2: Definitely. 2207 01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:13,519 Speaker 3: I was in a little group earlier this year for 2208 01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:16,599 Speaker 3: Harvard Man. Harvard University had be on this on this program, 2209 01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:19,479 Speaker 3: meaning people from Compton trying to figure out ways to 2210 01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:22,439 Speaker 3: make Compton better. And we were the only ones only 2211 01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:26,880 Speaker 3: all black, all not black, all minority group. Everybody else 2212 01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:29,720 Speaker 3: was white. Okay, we walking that motherfuck and they think 2213 01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:31,880 Speaker 3: we I guess it's not. We're gonna be sagging the shit. 2214 01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:34,200 Speaker 3: I don't know, but they were surprised that we could speak, 2215 01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:36,679 Speaker 3: you know, we could talk like we got some goddamn sense, 2216 01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:40,000 Speaker 3: and we did all their assignments and kicked ass. When 2217 01:50:40,040 --> 01:50:41,559 Speaker 3: all the smoke was cleared, why do. 2218 01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:45,160 Speaker 2: You think a section as you know, as we are 2219 01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:47,920 Speaker 2: as far as Compton, was able to produce so much 2220 01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:50,760 Speaker 2: motherfucking talent in such a small. 2221 01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:54,760 Speaker 3: Section Compton at first at one time, man was. 2222 01:50:54,920 --> 01:50:57,639 Speaker 2: Cause like you said, you know, we've had everything from 2223 01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:03,400 Speaker 2: fucking artists to fucking Venus and Serena to like, we've 2224 01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:05,679 Speaker 2: had a lot of ship come out of Compton. 2225 01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:08,639 Speaker 3: Compton is a I think because of such a small city, 2226 01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:11,479 Speaker 3: you get like anything you got, you got their pressure 2227 01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:13,120 Speaker 3: to succeed what I'm. 2228 01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:16,360 Speaker 2: Saying, because I had to get I was like, God, damn, 2229 01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:18,439 Speaker 2: I gotta get about this motherfucker. Man. 2230 01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:21,960 Speaker 1: I think everybody that comes from them in poverished areas, man, 2231 01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:24,120 Speaker 1: it's always motivated to get on because I know that 2232 01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:25,760 Speaker 1: was my main goal when I was a kid in 2233 01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:28,760 Speaker 1: Cleveland was to get the fuck about that motherfucker by 2234 01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:29,719 Speaker 1: any means necessary. 2235 01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:31,600 Speaker 3: Something with the first city was one of it was 2236 01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:35,040 Speaker 3: it was white for years, then it became black. It 2237 01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:37,040 Speaker 3: was like one of the first black cities with the 2238 01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:38,680 Speaker 3: black mayor and ship like that. So you got a 2239 01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:40,960 Speaker 3: lot of people that migrated to Compton, like my dad 2240 01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:45,240 Speaker 3: why I usually live on a woman to other kid, 2241 01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:49,000 Speaker 3: then we moved out just outside of Compton. But everything 2242 01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:51,479 Speaker 3: I did was in Compton, schools, everything. 2243 01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:53,000 Speaker 2: So it just it was. 2244 01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:57,200 Speaker 3: It was LA was so big and white for decades, 2245 01:51:57,560 --> 01:52:00,920 Speaker 3: then what was white for decades. Paramount was wife for decades. 2246 01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:04,040 Speaker 3: Marshingt didn't exist yet. Carston didn't come out to the sixties. 2247 01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:06,640 Speaker 2: Damn mightn't known that Christing. 2248 01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:09,360 Speaker 3: Ain't that old. Carston might be think they fifty fifth 2249 01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:09,680 Speaker 3: at first? 2250 01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:12,839 Speaker 2: Growing up? Yeah, growing up in Compton, you didn't venture nowhere. 2251 01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:15,960 Speaker 2: You know, we stayed in fucking Compton. We didn't go 2252 01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:19,080 Speaker 2: to LA. We didn't go to Long Beach, we didn't 2253 01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:22,519 Speaker 2: go to Paramount, none of that shit. We just stayed 2254 01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:27,120 Speaker 2: in com to go to Paramount. Hell Nah, now what everywhere? 2255 01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:30,559 Speaker 3: Can my daddy cut lines? He cut loud in Paramount, Downey, 2256 01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:35,120 Speaker 3: Long Beach, Torrents Palace, Vergis Guardiena. So I've always been 2257 01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:38,400 Speaker 3: exposed to different shit close to me, and it just 2258 01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:39,679 Speaker 3: gave me a different perspective. 2259 01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:43,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that man, but company definitely, even 2260 01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:46,320 Speaker 1: Sugar Man. Even though people focus a lot of times 2261 01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:49,040 Speaker 1: on the bad shit the sug did, Sugar did a 2262 01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:51,960 Speaker 1: monumental shit, you know, Speaking of which I know Dick 2263 01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:54,479 Speaker 1: Griffy helped him a lot of wish doing. Dick Griffy's 2264 01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:55,559 Speaker 1: relationship with y'all cool. 2265 01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:57,800 Speaker 3: I met Dick Griffey like everybody else did at one 2266 01:52:57,840 --> 01:52:58,400 Speaker 3: point in time. 2267 01:52:59,280 --> 01:52:59,920 Speaker 2: Different Dick. 2268 01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:01,960 Speaker 3: If you heard about my cola and what he was 2269 01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:03,640 Speaker 3: doing over there. Dick, if you're gonna play the big 2270 01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:06,400 Speaker 3: big homie, I could give all yall record deals. Come 2271 01:53:06,439 --> 01:53:08,840 Speaker 3: over here, you know, to Solar Records. I could do 2272 01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:11,880 Speaker 3: the same thing for you. But the Nigga contract, Nigga 2273 01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:14,040 Speaker 3: contract was by this time, by the time he did 2274 01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:16,479 Speaker 3: that ship, we knew how to read contracts. Oh I 2275 01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:22,040 Speaker 3: can't fuck right here. Oh hell, but he's gonna stick 2276 01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:23,360 Speaker 3: to his name. It's gonna be some dick up in 2277 01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:30,880 Speaker 3: this contract. Okay, some dick in that contract. But because 2278 01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:35,439 Speaker 3: Sure came in through another source. Sure came through Big West, 2279 01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:39,320 Speaker 3: Big West, where the body was. He made a security 2280 01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:42,760 Speaker 3: for Dick Griffy. Dick Griffy was a concert promoter him 2281 01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:44,880 Speaker 3: don cor Niggas all these casts. They would do the 2282 01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:48,759 Speaker 3: concerts at the Forum and Big West Man and security 2283 01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:53,560 Speaker 3: company called n e S National Events Security, that that 2284 01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:57,280 Speaker 3: they was hiring when I was a youngster. They was 2285 01:53:57,360 --> 01:54:00,439 Speaker 3: hiring x cons and they would crack Nigga and they 2286 01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:02,920 Speaker 3: head for passing out flyers back in the day. That's 2287 01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:05,479 Speaker 3: when they had the forum, and across the street at 2288 01:54:05,479 --> 01:54:09,200 Speaker 3: the racetrack they had a hotel and we leave a 2289 01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:12,320 Speaker 3: forum across the street go to the hotel for the 2290 01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:12,960 Speaker 3: after party. 2291 01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:13,840 Speaker 2: That was. 2292 01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:17,240 Speaker 3: That was Big Western Ship, Big West, Big Mike, all 2293 01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:20,519 Speaker 3: of them, and Sure came under Big West is his 2294 01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:24,000 Speaker 3: security thing for a while, and that was after the 2295 01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:27,639 Speaker 3: Big Company. But Dick Griffrey was always in the record 2296 01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:29,960 Speaker 3: business because he deried the Solar with him and Don 2297 01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:33,640 Speaker 3: Cornigius was tight because Don had the soul train and 2298 01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:37,120 Speaker 3: that's how you got Shallamar and all these other acts. 2299 01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:41,480 Speaker 3: The Whispers and the Lakeside and shit Lakeside used to 2300 01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:45,040 Speaker 3: be the house band for my boy John Carter at 2301 01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:48,880 Speaker 3: fucking Proud Bird. They was Ohio Lakeside expressed, fresh off 2302 01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:49,880 Speaker 3: the motherfucking boat. 2303 01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:58,760 Speaker 1: That's crazy, man. So everything is all piece of love. 2304 01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:02,280 Speaker 1: It's always been always. I had to come and hang 2305 01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:03,680 Speaker 1: out with y'all for a minute. That yeah, that's it, 2306 01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:07,560 Speaker 1: yeah for sure, man, Because you can have a disagreement man, 2307 01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:09,440 Speaker 1: without it being a whole bunch of bullsh what. 2308 01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:12,680 Speaker 3: It wouldn't disagreement. It's just like I'm like, damn, he 2309 01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:13,640 Speaker 3: couldn't use another word. 2310 01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:17,000 Speaker 2: Fucking yeah, I couldn't use nothing. It was just my 2311 01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:21,600 Speaker 2: opinion of the dance era, man, and you know, being 2312 01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:25,120 Speaker 2: influenced by you know, like I said, I listened to 2313 01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:29,920 Speaker 2: it was just our era of music. Man. You know, 2314 01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:33,280 Speaker 2: we had Bobby Jimmy in the critics. Yeah, talked about 2315 01:55:33,320 --> 01:55:33,960 Speaker 2: this ship. Yeah. 2316 01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:36,720 Speaker 3: Me and my boys was walking the other day and 2317 01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:40,000 Speaker 3: I've talked about this situation, and we talked about all 2318 01:55:40,080 --> 01:55:42,680 Speaker 3: the people that came up in the era, Bobby Jimmy 2319 01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:45,400 Speaker 3: and the critics. They was, we're there, Yankovich. 2320 01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:46,600 Speaker 2: What did I tell you? 2321 01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:52,520 Speaker 3: That much money without ink it's made. Yeah, that motherfucker 2322 01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:56,560 Speaker 3: got paid doing that ship parody rapo. 2323 01:55:58,120 --> 01:55:59,120 Speaker 2: He is from Lynwood. 2324 01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:03,360 Speaker 3: Now crazy understand this. Understand us man. Aside from trying 2325 01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:07,600 Speaker 3: to get laid and make it for we had, we 2326 01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:12,200 Speaker 3: we was competing with motherfucker Michael Jackson and fucking timam 2327 01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:16,720 Speaker 3: Marie and Rick James and Prince, all these bad motherfuckers 2328 01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:19,760 Speaker 3: that we all came out in the eighties. How in 2329 01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:22,440 Speaker 3: the fuck can I compete with Michael Jackson? 2330 01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:23,200 Speaker 2: Or Prince. 2331 01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:25,680 Speaker 3: All I'm trying to do is get give me a little, 2332 01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:28,720 Speaker 3: get me a motherfucker little niche, and rock that motherfucker. Okay, 2333 01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:31,640 Speaker 3: l A, We're gonna come over a new sound. L 2334 01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:35,720 Speaker 3: A electro Funk is part. We got a partnership from Soul, 2335 01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:39,120 Speaker 3: Sonic Force from New York. Some this ship we got 2336 01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:41,600 Speaker 3: from carab Work. I can't wear. I can't wear the 2337 01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:45,440 Speaker 3: same clothes as grand Master flashing figures five. These niggas 2338 01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:48,000 Speaker 3: wearing feathers and moccasins. I can't fuck with that ship. 2339 01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:51,120 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna do the sequence ship, all right. We 2340 01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:54,800 Speaker 3: some pretty motherfucker, some pretty boy motherfuckers trying to get laid. Okay. 2341 01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:57,200 Speaker 3: And when you play, when you when you played with 2342 01:56:57,280 --> 01:57:00,240 Speaker 3: Ready for the World, More Day at the time, all 2343 01:57:01,440 --> 01:57:02,520 Speaker 3: all that can be rocking with. 2344 01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:06,080 Speaker 2: I said that was the era. It was a little 2345 01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:08,800 Speaker 2: they had a little little lip gloss on. Okay. 2346 01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:11,880 Speaker 3: I washed my face though, I'm dumb with that. Okay. 2347 01:57:12,040 --> 01:57:14,240 Speaker 3: I had a Jerry Curl ain't got no hair no more, 2348 01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:15,560 Speaker 3: but we all did. 2349 01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:19,520 Speaker 1: Okay, Jerry Curl took everybody's motherfucking hair. Though you know 2350 01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:22,120 Speaker 1: what of all this ship, I've ever done. I get 2351 01:57:22,240 --> 01:57:24,640 Speaker 1: asked about the Jerry curroll morning, any damn thing. And 2352 01:57:24,760 --> 01:57:27,640 Speaker 1: if anybody know about a Jerry curl, not only whether 2353 01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:29,840 Speaker 1: the fashion statement, but if you got into a fight 2354 01:57:30,120 --> 01:57:32,560 Speaker 1: and get got that ship into the nigga's eyes, you 2355 01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:36,120 Speaker 1: can whip his mother. Yes, you finna win that fight. 2356 01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:38,360 Speaker 1: You get the Jerry coroll with the nigga's eyes, he's 2357 01:57:38,520 --> 01:57:39,360 Speaker 1: blind as fuck. 2358 01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:41,400 Speaker 2: It was definitely a fashion statement. 2359 01:57:42,560 --> 01:57:44,440 Speaker 3: Every day. You know they had a Jerry curl, you 2360 01:57:44,520 --> 01:57:45,240 Speaker 3: had your curl. 2361 01:57:47,280 --> 01:57:47,600 Speaker 2: You know what. 2362 01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:50,560 Speaker 1: My curl would only grow for so it was crazy. 2363 01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:53,600 Speaker 1: The front of my hair grew more than my motherfucking here. 2364 01:57:53,640 --> 01:57:55,120 Speaker 1: So I had this ship to the side like this. 2365 01:57:55,680 --> 01:57:58,760 Speaker 2: This nigger said he had the flock. I see ship, 2366 01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:01,880 Speaker 2: my ship. I big at the flock of seagulls. With 2367 01:58:02,040 --> 01:58:02,320 Speaker 2: the ship. 2368 01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:05,120 Speaker 3: My ship would grow real good up till about rid 2369 01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:07,440 Speaker 3: of my neck. But I always went to long Jerry curle. 2370 01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:09,200 Speaker 3: I wanted a long one too, but you know it 2371 01:58:09,240 --> 01:58:10,160 Speaker 3: would trip me out though. 2372 01:58:10,240 --> 01:58:12,560 Speaker 1: Man. I remember my mama first bought that kitchen curl 2373 01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:15,200 Speaker 1: shit on and they tore my ass up in school 2374 01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:16,840 Speaker 1: the next day because you know them kitchen curls. 2375 01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:18,720 Speaker 2: It would only be a part of part of the 2376 01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:22,320 Speaker 2: hair be like an afro part, be like curly. Was 2377 01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:27,360 Speaker 2: you had that dry side. I'll tell you what, Yeah, 2378 01:58:27,400 --> 01:58:28,360 Speaker 2: it's worse than that nigga. 2379 01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:31,160 Speaker 3: When I went to school, when I was centennial, I'm 2380 01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:33,880 Speaker 3: sixteen years old, I used to have a big ass 2381 01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:38,400 Speaker 3: natural for real, Okay, but I saw the Superfly album cover. 2382 01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:41,560 Speaker 3: But the nigga had the purn. I wouldn't get my 2383 01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:44,280 Speaker 3: ship pressed in curl for right doing the Eastern vacation. 2384 01:58:44,680 --> 01:58:49,280 Speaker 3: I went back to school. My ship was luxurious and manlious, curious, 2385 01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:51,880 Speaker 3: and the niggas talked me out of my hairstyle. Man 2386 01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:53,920 Speaker 3: took at this nigga, it look like a bitchoo. I 2387 01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:55,720 Speaker 3: got caught all kind of nagors. So most of the 2388 01:58:55,800 --> 01:58:58,280 Speaker 3: time that'd be niggas. Heye, niggas be sickly a minor. 2389 01:58:58,320 --> 01:58:59,840 Speaker 3: But I ain't that you. 2390 01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:00,960 Speaker 2: I ain't do yet. 2391 01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:04,240 Speaker 3: But gangster niggas with same mother's hair out the same 2392 01:59:04,360 --> 01:59:07,960 Speaker 3: motherfuckers that talked ship about my hair. Niggas still had 2393 01:59:08,040 --> 01:59:11,680 Speaker 3: their ship purse pressed and curl after reunion twenty five 2394 01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:14,480 Speaker 3: years later, Now the nigga got George Jefferson in the middle. 2395 01:59:14,600 --> 01:59:16,400 Speaker 3: But all this ship right here. That guy Ben Franklin, 2396 01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:19,320 Speaker 3: no budship, same motherfuckers that was talking to ship the 2397 01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:20,760 Speaker 3: tenth grade which had this. 2398 01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:23,880 Speaker 2: I've seen a gang and I've seen a gang of 2399 01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:26,760 Speaker 2: hood niggas. I seen a gang of niggas in the 2400 01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:31,400 Speaker 2: hood with with rollers in the pressing that nigga that 2401 01:59:31,600 --> 01:59:32,320 Speaker 2: was the thing. 2402 01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:35,880 Speaker 1: In the brother at the show Saturday night, it was 2403 01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:38,720 Speaker 1: a nigga walking around backstage. Man. That nigga was kind 2404 01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:40,720 Speaker 1: of swollen. He looked like he just came up off 2405 01:59:40,760 --> 01:59:43,200 Speaker 1: the yard. This nigga had his rollers up in that 2406 01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:46,240 Speaker 1: motherfucker he was on swollen and he had rollers in 2407 01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:46,560 Speaker 1: his ship. 2408 01:59:46,640 --> 01:59:50,840 Speaker 2: Still, Oh yeah, that's old school niggas, that's all. I 2409 01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:52,640 Speaker 2: just know the homies used to get their. 2410 01:59:52,560 --> 01:59:55,480 Speaker 3: Ships the blue rollers. 2411 01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:57,680 Speaker 2: It wasn't fucking green. I think he can't. It wasn't. 2412 02:00:00,280 --> 02:00:02,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I probably came with Mitch he then he came. 2413 02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:04,520 Speaker 3: He had some green bros in his there. He was 2414 02:00:04,600 --> 02:00:06,120 Speaker 3: kind of small. He was just staying there. 2415 02:00:06,200 --> 02:00:07,960 Speaker 2: That's they neighborhood colors green. 2416 02:00:08,440 --> 02:00:08,560 Speaker 3: See. 2417 02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:11,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, man, it was a different time, man, So 2418 02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:14,520 Speaker 2: when I definitely was a different time. 2419 02:00:14,800 --> 02:00:17,160 Speaker 3: I tell niggas, I tell people all the time, man, 2420 02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:22,880 Speaker 3: when I was so influenced my I'm personally. I know 2421 02:00:23,120 --> 02:00:26,160 Speaker 3: music has a super super powerful influence on people because 2422 02:00:26,160 --> 02:00:28,680 Speaker 3: when I was a youngster, I was a big Curtis 2423 02:00:28,760 --> 02:00:33,840 Speaker 3: Mayfield flying. Curtis Mayfield did all that black revolutionary music, Okay, 2424 02:00:34,280 --> 02:00:37,160 Speaker 3: but when he did Superfly, that shit changed my life forever. 2425 02:00:37,880 --> 02:00:40,320 Speaker 3: I wanted to be a junior pimp. Baby, I wanted. 2426 02:00:40,360 --> 02:00:42,680 Speaker 3: I wanted to join the Junior Pimp Academy because I 2427 02:00:42,720 --> 02:00:45,240 Speaker 3: wouldn't got my ship. I got my ship pressed in curl. 2428 02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:48,360 Speaker 3: I got me a Maxi coat. I was even got 2429 02:00:48,440 --> 02:00:51,880 Speaker 3: my even Nigga, I even had some bacon soda. Fut 2430 02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:54,280 Speaker 3: sniffing that ship in front of my cousin. My cousin 2431 02:00:54,360 --> 02:00:56,400 Speaker 3: kicked my ass behind that ship. Nigga, what the fuck 2432 02:00:56,480 --> 02:00:59,600 Speaker 3: is you doing? Got pick trying to be cool and shit? Nigga, 2433 02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:02,520 Speaker 3: Im sipping bacon soda. Niggas was on that powder back 2434 02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:06,440 Speaker 3: in the day. Yeah, holder was like some baller shit, nigga. 2435 02:01:07,160 --> 02:01:09,880 Speaker 3: I ain't gonna tell him myself, but yeah, you have 2436 02:01:10,040 --> 02:01:13,120 Speaker 3: some powder. Back then, you was a baller. Yeah, trust me. 2437 02:01:13,200 --> 02:01:13,840 Speaker 2: I was a baller. 2438 02:01:13,960 --> 02:01:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, trust me, iut. 2439 02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:18,240 Speaker 2: Was a ball I just said I'll tell you today, nigga, 2440 02:01:18,320 --> 02:01:21,160 Speaker 2: back in the day, niggas who had that pure powdered 2441 02:01:21,240 --> 02:01:24,480 Speaker 2: nigga did ballers check this out? Though? 2442 02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:28,120 Speaker 3: Man, I remember well the reason why I even wanted 2443 02:01:28,160 --> 02:01:30,280 Speaker 3: to try this ship because they was pumping it on 2444 02:01:30,400 --> 02:01:32,160 Speaker 3: the news like it was like it was a brand 2445 02:01:32,240 --> 02:01:35,280 Speaker 3: new ship, man, because it would tell you all the 2446 02:01:35,360 --> 02:01:38,480 Speaker 3: new party drug up the eighties, cocaine. It's all over 2447 02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:41,920 Speaker 3: clubs in New York and in Chicago, and you know, motherfucker, 2448 02:01:41,920 --> 02:01:43,360 Speaker 3: get the party and that ship hit l A. I'm like, 2449 02:01:43,400 --> 02:01:45,600 Speaker 3: give me them that ship, give me some of that 2450 02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:48,560 Speaker 3: chip twice. How power make a nigga feel like you 2451 02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:51,040 Speaker 3: can kick everybody's ass? Yeah, like you can fuck a 2452 02:01:51,080 --> 02:01:53,320 Speaker 3: motherfucker up. Like I was always scared of that coke. 2453 02:01:53,400 --> 02:01:55,360 Speaker 3: But you gotta be scared, man, and watch that ship. 2454 02:01:55,480 --> 02:01:57,200 Speaker 1: I was scared of that cocaine. You ain't never, you 2455 02:01:57,200 --> 02:02:01,560 Speaker 1: ain't able took your bump still. Hell yeah, all right, 2456 02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell y'all why I said a nigga coming 2457 02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:08,240 Speaker 1: up in the crack era. Yes, in the crack era, 2458 02:02:08,880 --> 02:02:12,000 Speaker 1: I saw what that ship. That ship destroyed my neighborhood. 2459 02:02:12,080 --> 02:02:12,200 Speaker 5: Dog. 2460 02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:14,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking about niggas. You know how you look up 2461 02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:18,080 Speaker 1: to certain niggas, Niggas that had to fly do some 2462 02:02:18,240 --> 02:02:20,480 Speaker 1: quarters and all that ship they had to fly rise. 2463 02:02:20,960 --> 02:02:23,440 Speaker 1: I saw niggas go from having them fly rides and 2464 02:02:23,480 --> 02:02:26,000 Speaker 1: the pretty girl's dog to where they was walking. It 2465 02:02:26,120 --> 02:02:29,280 Speaker 1: was like a process. Now they walking, they're still clean 2466 02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:31,640 Speaker 1: a little bit right, They're still going to work. But 2467 02:02:31,760 --> 02:02:33,960 Speaker 1: then they just hobos, my nigga, they just walking down 2468 02:02:34,040 --> 02:02:35,280 Speaker 1: the street looking like bums. 2469 02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:38,920 Speaker 2: I was scared of that ship, having having the experience 2470 02:02:39,040 --> 02:02:43,240 Speaker 2: of either having friends or family members going through that ship. 2471 02:02:43,800 --> 02:02:48,400 Speaker 2: That ship, it terrified me, uh to where I didn't 2472 02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:51,040 Speaker 2: want to do nothing. I used to think like nigga, 2473 02:02:51,320 --> 02:02:53,720 Speaker 2: I didn't even want to smoke weed for a long time. 2474 02:02:54,440 --> 02:02:57,440 Speaker 2: And and but you know that didn't last for too long. 2475 02:02:58,560 --> 02:03:02,640 Speaker 3: Cocaine with intd to the hood. First see cocaine. You 2476 02:03:02,680 --> 02:03:07,800 Speaker 3: gotta understand cocaine, real cocaine was a gentleman's drug. It 2477 02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:11,760 Speaker 3: wasn't something that you saw youngster fucking with man before 2478 02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:16,760 Speaker 3: crack came out a quilo or cocaine with thirty grand man. 2479 02:03:17,960 --> 02:03:21,200 Speaker 3: It was if the cast is soul, cocaine would not 2480 02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:23,440 Speaker 3: be that kid. Nowhere in the nowhere in the room 2481 02:03:23,520 --> 02:03:26,000 Speaker 3: with that ship. Damn man, that was a whole different thing. 2482 02:03:26,080 --> 02:03:26,440 Speaker 2: Back then. 2483 02:03:26,520 --> 02:03:29,000 Speaker 3: It was like the old dudes did that ship after 2484 02:03:29,160 --> 02:03:32,040 Speaker 3: after after hour to stay up to fuck with the 2485 02:03:32,160 --> 02:03:34,960 Speaker 3: young girls. If you had some of that ship, you 2486 02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:37,520 Speaker 3: would consider the motherfucking bought us, like nigga having having 2487 02:03:37,560 --> 02:03:40,400 Speaker 3: Christal back in the eighties and Cristal nigga, he was 2488 02:03:40,440 --> 02:03:42,720 Speaker 3: a baller. You got you can give a nigga a bump. 2489 02:03:43,320 --> 02:03:45,600 Speaker 2: Nigga ship this nigga, you know you what. 2490 02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:48,640 Speaker 3: It just was a status simber man. Only problem on 2491 02:03:48,720 --> 02:03:50,040 Speaker 3: the was you couldn't put that shit in your socket. 2492 02:03:50,080 --> 02:03:52,680 Speaker 3: That shitn't melt like water. Oh no, that ship, man. 2493 02:03:52,920 --> 02:03:54,280 Speaker 3: I was always scared of that ship. 2494 02:03:54,400 --> 02:03:57,200 Speaker 1: Then when I saw the one dude leeing byas died 2495 02:03:57,240 --> 02:03:59,760 Speaker 1: the basketball player died the way he did, I was like, man, 2496 02:03:59,800 --> 02:04:00,360 Speaker 1: what the fuck? 2497 02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:03,000 Speaker 3: I wasn't fucking with that ship. But that's what made 2498 02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:05,080 Speaker 3: a lot of niggas include me, stop fucking with that shit. 2499 02:04:05,240 --> 02:04:07,200 Speaker 1: But I tell you one time, and that's when I 2500 02:04:07,280 --> 02:04:10,400 Speaker 1: stopped smoking at the niggas because I didn't start smoking 2501 02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:12,960 Speaker 1: weed like I always tell you, really smoking smoking until 2502 02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:15,920 Speaker 1: I was like in my late forties, my nigga, and 2503 02:04:16,040 --> 02:04:18,360 Speaker 1: that was only because of my joint problems and shit, right, 2504 02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:20,800 Speaker 1: you know got them football knees and shit like that. Dog, 2505 02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, dog, I got a cousin back 2506 02:04:23,960 --> 02:04:26,000 Speaker 1: at the crib that nigga do every motherfucking thing. And 2507 02:04:26,080 --> 02:04:28,680 Speaker 1: he's one of them functional niggas to do anything, and 2508 02:04:28,800 --> 02:04:30,320 Speaker 1: he might go up off of it for a year, 2509 02:04:30,440 --> 02:04:33,760 Speaker 1: right this nigga. Man, One time, tell you, nigga hit 2510 02:04:33,800 --> 02:04:35,080 Speaker 1: the joint and I hit the joint. 2511 02:04:35,160 --> 02:04:35,280 Speaker 5: Man. 2512 02:04:35,360 --> 02:04:36,360 Speaker 2: I was on my way home. 2513 02:04:36,920 --> 02:04:38,880 Speaker 1: I just took one little puff. I didn't even know 2514 02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:41,600 Speaker 1: how to smoke weed back then. Right, I was on 2515 02:04:41,680 --> 02:04:46,280 Speaker 1: the way home. My face just froze up, froze up, 2516 02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:50,720 Speaker 1: and I was up still the goddamn all motherfucking night. 2517 02:04:50,760 --> 02:04:52,800 Speaker 2: I was just I was riding home. My face just 2518 02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:59,360 Speaker 2: got numb. I didn't get high. I didn't face like this. Man. 2519 02:04:59,520 --> 02:05:02,640 Speaker 1: I said, well, it's this deck. She just feel number 2520 02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:06,120 Speaker 1: the motherfucker. But I ain't never took no bumping those ship, 2521 02:05:06,200 --> 02:05:07,840 Speaker 1: my nigga. I was always scared of that shit. I'm 2522 02:05:07,880 --> 02:05:11,320 Speaker 1: scared of cocaine. I'm scared of heroin. I don't know 2523 02:05:11,440 --> 02:05:13,840 Speaker 1: these niggas that's on them peels. Now, my niggas, they 2524 02:05:13,880 --> 02:05:15,960 Speaker 1: gotta be fearing for their life. My nigga, they putting 2525 02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:17,960 Speaker 1: fitting on her. They putting fitting on the weed. Now, 2526 02:05:18,400 --> 02:05:20,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't touch that. I wouldn't touch that ship. 2527 02:05:21,920 --> 02:05:26,120 Speaker 2: So, Lonzo, coming from where you came from and seeing 2528 02:05:26,240 --> 02:05:28,960 Speaker 2: what you're seeing, what's your what's your take on on 2529 02:05:29,160 --> 02:05:31,600 Speaker 2: music today? You know what, man? 2530 02:05:31,880 --> 02:05:36,520 Speaker 3: It's uh. I think in some cases people don't appreciate 2531 02:05:36,600 --> 02:05:40,040 Speaker 3: the art because it's so easy to do now. Mm 2532 02:05:41,480 --> 02:05:44,000 Speaker 3: the bar is dropped on the ground. 2533 02:05:44,520 --> 02:05:47,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I come from some of that time of 2534 02:05:47,880 --> 02:05:52,360 Speaker 2: you know, studio and two track tape and all. Yeah, yeah, 2535 02:05:53,000 --> 02:05:55,400 Speaker 2: they'll buy some tape and ship. It's it's so simple 2536 02:05:55,480 --> 02:05:58,200 Speaker 2: to go in your kitchen right now and and and 2537 02:05:58,640 --> 02:05:59,680 Speaker 2: put in a program. 2538 02:05:59,840 --> 02:06:02,880 Speaker 3: And you know, it's like it's like giving somebody some money. 2539 02:06:03,440 --> 02:06:04,120 Speaker 2: Too too young. 2540 02:06:04,280 --> 02:06:06,040 Speaker 3: They don't they don't appreciate the fucking money. You think 2541 02:06:06,080 --> 02:06:08,400 Speaker 3: it's gonna last forever. You know, when I got my 2542 02:06:08,520 --> 02:06:11,800 Speaker 3: first my first, big ass fact but big ass bag, 2543 02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:13,160 Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna be rich forever. 2544 02:06:13,280 --> 02:06:13,480 Speaker 2: Man. 2545 02:06:14,200 --> 02:06:16,040 Speaker 3: And music makes you think the same thing you got 2546 02:06:16,080 --> 02:06:18,560 Speaker 3: you got, celebrity. You on the internet, you all over. 2547 02:06:18,560 --> 02:06:20,640 Speaker 3: You're blowing up in your hood blah blah blah. And 2548 02:06:20,760 --> 02:06:23,360 Speaker 3: you think, and you're young, you think this is easy. 2549 02:06:24,280 --> 02:06:26,600 Speaker 3: But at some point to make shit gonna flip. And 2550 02:06:26,680 --> 02:06:28,320 Speaker 3: what you doing today a gonna be shit tomorrow. 2551 02:06:29,400 --> 02:06:32,240 Speaker 2: That's some real shit, man, And a lot of artists 2552 02:06:32,280 --> 02:06:35,440 Speaker 2: don't take heed to that. Today you see a lot 2553 02:06:35,480 --> 02:06:37,960 Speaker 2: of the flossiness and like you said, the money, and 2554 02:06:38,560 --> 02:06:43,280 Speaker 2: you know, niggas is you know, even in our time, 2555 02:06:43,920 --> 02:06:46,920 Speaker 2: we did what a lot of niggas is doing right now. 2556 02:06:47,320 --> 02:06:53,000 Speaker 2: We traveled equal on planes and trains, automobiles, the expensive 2557 02:06:53,080 --> 02:06:56,400 Speaker 2: of this and homes and parties and women and all 2558 02:06:56,520 --> 02:06:59,840 Speaker 2: that shit. And like you said, eventually, you're gonna wake 2559 02:06:59,920 --> 02:07:02,040 Speaker 2: up up one day and you're gonna be fifty plus. 2560 02:07:02,600 --> 02:07:05,440 Speaker 2: You get me, And nigga's not gonna want to listen 2561 02:07:05,520 --> 02:07:08,080 Speaker 2: to your music no more. And you know you're gonna 2562 02:07:08,120 --> 02:07:11,680 Speaker 2: have to find other ways of income and to stay 2563 02:07:11,840 --> 02:07:15,240 Speaker 2: relevant or just to pay a motherfucking bill, you know 2564 02:07:15,320 --> 02:07:19,120 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So it's crazy our artists today think 2565 02:07:19,320 --> 02:07:21,600 Speaker 2: of like this shit is gonna last forever. 2566 02:07:21,800 --> 02:07:24,560 Speaker 3: Oh dude, this shit at some point time and line 2567 02:07:24,680 --> 02:07:25,880 Speaker 3: like gonna go up, Come come. 2568 02:07:25,840 --> 02:07:26,360 Speaker 2: Up, your ass. 2569 02:07:26,600 --> 02:07:28,560 Speaker 1: Believe me, you better be thinking of a plan now 2570 02:07:28,600 --> 02:07:30,520 Speaker 1: while you got it. That's one thing I learned about 2571 02:07:30,680 --> 02:07:34,000 Speaker 1: just being in the business, man, is that don't nothing last. 2572 02:07:34,080 --> 02:07:34,320 Speaker 2: Whatever. 2573 02:07:34,400 --> 02:07:36,480 Speaker 1: You gotta tell it while you got it, while it's cracking, 2574 02:07:36,760 --> 02:07:38,520 Speaker 1: and kind of start pivoting towards. 2575 02:07:38,280 --> 02:07:39,360 Speaker 2: Some mother shit. You know what I mean? 2576 02:07:39,920 --> 02:07:42,520 Speaker 3: You know what I think of all the shit? I 2577 02:07:42,600 --> 02:07:44,960 Speaker 3: think what would take people take for granted more than 2578 02:07:45,000 --> 02:07:46,880 Speaker 3: anything they motherfucking health. 2579 02:07:47,400 --> 02:07:49,879 Speaker 2: Oh oh, definitely all the shit. 2580 02:07:50,360 --> 02:07:53,240 Speaker 3: That all that money don't mean a motherfucking thing. Nigga. 2581 02:07:53,920 --> 02:07:56,960 Speaker 3: I ain't got no details on Jimmy take me fucked, 2582 02:07:57,280 --> 02:07:59,080 Speaker 3: but whatever it is, he can't by his way out 2583 02:07:59,120 --> 02:08:03,520 Speaker 3: of it. Disrespected the brother at all. No disrespect by no, 2584 02:08:03,680 --> 02:08:06,840 Speaker 3: by no means. So all the money or whatever you 2585 02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:10,320 Speaker 3: got when you lose your motherfucking health, nigga, it's it's 2586 02:08:10,360 --> 02:08:13,600 Speaker 3: a whole nother world. Like I had prostate cancer. Okay, 2587 02:08:13,800 --> 02:08:18,720 Speaker 3: I'm a prostate cancer survivor. Man, So God, all my youngsters, 2588 02:08:18,840 --> 02:08:21,560 Speaker 3: all my home young homies coming up behind me, nigga, 2589 02:08:21,600 --> 02:08:24,040 Speaker 3: go get that go get that check man. And and 2590 02:08:24,280 --> 02:08:26,640 Speaker 3: here's the cold barty about it is, don't let nobody 2591 02:08:26,760 --> 02:08:28,680 Speaker 3: clown you. It ain't. It ain't about these fingers no more. 2592 02:08:28,680 --> 02:08:31,560 Speaker 2: They can take you. I've been there. They can take your. 2593 02:08:31,520 --> 02:08:36,360 Speaker 3: Prostate, but just the blood tests. Okay, But don't be 2594 02:08:36,440 --> 02:08:38,480 Speaker 3: afraid to go get your prostate check here because when 2595 02:08:38,480 --> 02:08:41,160 Speaker 3: you get symptoms. By the time you get symptoms, nigga's 2596 02:08:41,200 --> 02:08:45,480 Speaker 3: too late. Nigga, stop making amazements. Its talking about a 2597 02:08:45,520 --> 02:08:49,120 Speaker 3: quiet killer. It's a quiet killer. That high blood, that 2598 02:08:49,480 --> 02:08:52,760 Speaker 3: that high bloo dog. I'm gonna tell you them little pills, 2599 02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:54,760 Speaker 3: dog that make your head and hurt. Take the motherfuckers. 2600 02:08:54,800 --> 02:08:56,280 Speaker 3: I got a whole bunch of homies that don't take 2601 02:08:56,280 --> 02:08:57,960 Speaker 3: their medicine. I take mu shit every day. 2602 02:08:58,120 --> 02:08:59,080 Speaker 2: I take mine every day. 2603 02:08:59,160 --> 02:09:00,520 Speaker 3: Every day, I take one day. 2604 02:09:01,000 --> 02:09:04,800 Speaker 2: But like you said, motherfuckers don't value that shit. You can't. 2605 02:09:04,840 --> 02:09:08,920 Speaker 2: You take a motherfucking twenty five thirty right now, drinking 2606 02:09:09,040 --> 02:09:13,080 Speaker 2: every day, partying, eating whatever they eat. You know a 2607 02:09:13,160 --> 02:09:15,960 Speaker 2: lot of niggas thought I would be surprised if you 2608 02:09:16,120 --> 02:09:18,600 Speaker 2: asks a lot of motherfuckers if they even have any 2609 02:09:18,720 --> 02:09:20,640 Speaker 2: kind of health care. You know what I'm saying. Any 2610 02:09:20,720 --> 02:09:23,320 Speaker 2: kind of health insurance, you get me. Nigga, you got 2611 02:09:23,360 --> 02:09:26,040 Speaker 2: a three hundred thousand dollars car nigga, what kind of 2612 02:09:26,120 --> 02:09:29,560 Speaker 2: health insurance you got If you're paying, you're paying for 2613 02:09:29,680 --> 02:09:32,120 Speaker 2: some Blue Cross or some shit. I bet you you not, 2614 02:09:33,080 --> 02:09:35,520 Speaker 2: but that shit. Ain't never heard that shit. No lyrics, man, 2615 02:09:36,160 --> 02:09:40,640 Speaker 2: No niggas ain't paying forig nigga. Go buy one hundred 2616 02:09:40,680 --> 02:09:43,200 Speaker 2: thousand dollars CUBID right there, and I bet you get 2617 02:09:43,280 --> 02:09:45,400 Speaker 2: asking for nigga. How much you're paying every month on 2618 02:09:45,520 --> 02:09:48,800 Speaker 2: your health insurance. Nigga be like, huh, like nigga was smart. 2619 02:09:49,120 --> 02:09:51,839 Speaker 2: Get my girl with a job who got healthishurance? Yeah, exactly. 2620 02:09:51,920 --> 02:09:53,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what most of these niggas need 2621 02:09:53,720 --> 02:09:55,600 Speaker 2: to do. Dog, I'm gonna tell you. I heard the 2622 02:09:55,640 --> 02:09:58,320 Speaker 2: little nigga from Mob Deep products because you know he 2623 02:09:58,440 --> 02:10:02,040 Speaker 2: had the what's the one disease he had? Yeah, I 2624 02:10:02,120 --> 02:10:04,360 Speaker 2: heard he had that written his recording contract that they 2625 02:10:04,360 --> 02:10:07,400 Speaker 2: will pay health insurance for him. No, ship, that would 2626 02:10:07,440 --> 02:10:11,880 Speaker 2: be smart for any major artists. You get me who 2627 02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:15,000 Speaker 2: has ties to one of the big labels, motherfucker, you 2628 02:10:15,080 --> 02:10:16,400 Speaker 2: feel to put me on your health plan? 2629 02:10:16,640 --> 02:10:18,800 Speaker 3: Tell you them people list in that office that work there, 2630 02:10:19,240 --> 02:10:20,280 Speaker 3: they got health insurance. 2631 02:10:20,320 --> 02:10:22,040 Speaker 2: You could you technically on the I mean yeah, if 2632 02:10:22,040 --> 02:10:23,200 Speaker 2: you're a regular employee. 2633 02:10:23,640 --> 02:10:26,440 Speaker 3: Here's something they were working on right now, should be 2634 02:10:26,520 --> 02:10:31,600 Speaker 3: Curtis blow myself karas One were trying to get rappers 2635 02:10:31,800 --> 02:10:34,800 Speaker 3: accepted into the union. Man, they should, they should, they 2636 02:10:34,840 --> 02:10:36,760 Speaker 3: should have been done it because I'm I'm I'm in 2637 02:10:36,840 --> 02:10:37,600 Speaker 3: the I'm in. 2638 02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:40,160 Speaker 1: The sag right after, you know, because I don't done 2639 02:10:40,160 --> 02:10:44,240 Speaker 1: a few movies and commercials. Niggas you big time what 2640 02:10:44,400 --> 02:10:47,760 Speaker 1: you're saying, problems? You get insurance to that right when 2641 02:10:47,760 --> 02:10:49,480 Speaker 1: you work so many hours, and a lot of these 2642 02:10:49,520 --> 02:10:52,160 Speaker 1: people have more than work enough hours. Dog the work 2643 02:10:52,200 --> 02:10:54,320 Speaker 1: they can get it. It at the very least will 2644 02:10:54,360 --> 02:10:57,640 Speaker 1: make your health insurance a lot cheap. Yes, Fortunately, man, 2645 02:10:57,720 --> 02:10:59,920 Speaker 1: mar had a wife that's an education dogs on mine. 2646 02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:01,800 Speaker 1: Insurance is bomb the mother for so I never have 2647 02:11:01,840 --> 02:11:05,120 Speaker 1: to worry about that, right And I remember my wife 2648 02:11:05,200 --> 02:11:06,800 Speaker 1: told me that when I first started making money. The 2649 02:11:06,840 --> 02:11:08,720 Speaker 1: first thing you want to do when you start making money, like, 2650 02:11:08,720 --> 02:11:10,360 Speaker 1: I don't need you going to work. You want to 2651 02:11:10,360 --> 02:11:13,080 Speaker 1: go teach the kindergarteners. And you know you ain't got 2652 02:11:13,160 --> 02:11:15,320 Speaker 1: to do that no more. Well, how go take care 2653 02:11:15,320 --> 02:11:18,520 Speaker 1: of your insurance? Yeah, got the good benefits this, you 2654 02:11:18,560 --> 02:11:20,640 Speaker 1: got asthma, you got high blood first you got all this, 2655 02:11:20,760 --> 02:11:22,880 Speaker 1: we need that. I said, you know what, You're right, 2656 02:11:22,960 --> 02:11:24,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna stay at that motherfucker. 2657 02:11:24,480 --> 02:11:27,640 Speaker 3: You know what I meant at a buddy mind he 2658 02:11:27,800 --> 02:11:30,160 Speaker 3: kept a part time job at FedEx just for the 2659 02:11:30,200 --> 02:11:33,600 Speaker 3: health insurance. Yeah, I mean smart fed Ex will paid 2660 02:11:33,680 --> 02:11:35,800 Speaker 3: still pay you your health insurance. 2661 02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:40,240 Speaker 2: The part time motherfucker give you a quarter million dollar contract, 2662 02:11:40,320 --> 02:11:42,280 Speaker 2: but they don't want to give you that health insurance. 2663 02:11:42,320 --> 02:11:45,280 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Let your motherfucking ass die off. 2664 02:11:45,400 --> 02:11:48,160 Speaker 2: So we got your motherfucking residuals in your in your 2665 02:11:48,280 --> 02:11:50,040 Speaker 2: music and all that. For decades. 2666 02:11:50,080 --> 02:11:53,120 Speaker 3: As a grown ass man and the OG in this game, 2667 02:11:53,440 --> 02:11:56,240 Speaker 3: that's my responsibility to tell people to put and put them, 2668 02:11:56,400 --> 02:11:58,240 Speaker 3: put them up on the game about the real ship 2669 02:11:58,360 --> 02:11:59,240 Speaker 3: Fu Boo ship. 2670 02:11:59,400 --> 02:12:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the real shit man. All you niggas out 2671 02:12:02,360 --> 02:12:05,520 Speaker 2: there right now, even you females too, y'all making all 2672 02:12:05,600 --> 02:12:08,840 Speaker 2: this money, you know, get you some good health insurance, man, 2673 02:12:08,960 --> 02:12:09,200 Speaker 2: get you. 2674 02:12:09,240 --> 02:12:11,400 Speaker 3: Some life insurance. Can you check out? Yeah, I ain't 2675 02:12:11,400 --> 02:12:13,160 Speaker 3: gotta do a car wash right there are your ass. 2676 02:12:13,280 --> 02:12:15,120 Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing I know. We was talking about 2677 02:12:15,160 --> 02:12:17,160 Speaker 1: that earlier, and I Aint gonna getting these brother's business. 2678 02:12:17,280 --> 02:12:20,800 Speaker 1: But the brother Gunplay, I guess, had to go fund 2679 02:12:20,880 --> 02:12:23,040 Speaker 1: me up for his daughter that was in the situation, 2680 02:12:23,160 --> 02:12:25,520 Speaker 1: and the fans was mad because he saw gonna get 2681 02:12:25,600 --> 02:12:28,520 Speaker 1: Rick Ross a chain. And that's the thing fans don't 2682 02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:31,880 Speaker 1: know the entertainment business. Gunplay probably got that chain. It 2683 02:12:32,000 --> 02:12:34,160 Speaker 1: was probably a deal. Somebody gave them some stuff. Hey, 2684 02:12:34,160 --> 02:12:36,040 Speaker 1: if you get Ross to go on Instagram with this 2685 02:12:36,120 --> 02:12:38,760 Speaker 1: motherfucker say my name, I'll let you have a chain. 2686 02:12:39,160 --> 02:12:40,760 Speaker 2: He probably didn't have to pay for that chain. 2687 02:12:40,840 --> 02:12:45,200 Speaker 1: But we see situations to where brothers gotta do gofundmes 2688 02:12:45,240 --> 02:12:48,320 Speaker 1: when they die and stuff that to your family. Right, 2689 02:12:49,480 --> 02:12:53,040 Speaker 1: life insurance one hundred thousand dollars life insurance policy would 2690 02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:55,600 Speaker 1: cost you maybe ten fifteen dollars a month if that 2691 02:12:56,560 --> 02:13:00,200 Speaker 1: go get your life insurance. Definitely, life insurance. If you 2692 02:13:00,240 --> 02:13:04,480 Speaker 1: smoke cigarettes, put them cigarettes down now while you're young, you. 2693 02:13:04,640 --> 02:13:08,080 Speaker 2: On that lean, you sip in, you just live in 2694 02:13:08,160 --> 02:13:10,720 Speaker 2: life there because right now, man, being in this rap 2695 02:13:10,840 --> 02:13:14,040 Speaker 2: game is just dangerous period period. You feel me, So 2696 02:13:14,680 --> 02:13:17,200 Speaker 2: get you some life insurance. Man. You never know you 2697 02:13:17,280 --> 02:13:19,840 Speaker 2: put out a record today and be shocked tomorrow. You 2698 02:13:20,000 --> 02:13:22,600 Speaker 2: get me that. That's just how it worked today. Something. 2699 02:13:23,000 --> 02:13:25,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this, drop some shit on y'all. Man, 2700 02:13:25,800 --> 02:13:28,720 Speaker 3: that's gonna be fucked up and people people gonna hate 2701 02:13:28,720 --> 02:13:30,320 Speaker 3: me for this ship, but I'm gonna say it anyway. 2702 02:13:32,000 --> 02:13:34,240 Speaker 3: Do you know one of the biggest byproducts of this 2703 02:13:34,360 --> 02:13:38,600 Speaker 3: gangster rap shit the organ harvest You know what the 2704 02:13:38,720 --> 02:13:42,040 Speaker 3: organ harvesting is. Yeah, I'm familiar with organ harvesting. When 2705 02:13:42,040 --> 02:13:44,720 Speaker 3: your ass die, they start taking your body parts, yeah, 2706 02:13:44,720 --> 02:13:46,400 Speaker 3: for sure, breaking your ass down like a fifty seven 2707 02:13:46,440 --> 02:13:49,760 Speaker 3: shivy pick apart. You start selling your heart, your clean 2708 02:13:49,880 --> 02:13:51,920 Speaker 3: and your eyeballs and all kinds of shit. 2709 02:13:52,040 --> 02:13:52,200 Speaker 6: Man. 2710 02:13:52,640 --> 02:13:55,760 Speaker 3: So when you when you when you have this, when 2711 02:13:55,800 --> 02:14:00,280 Speaker 3: you got young healthy people dying at an early age age, 2712 02:14:00,840 --> 02:14:04,160 Speaker 3: their body parts become valuable to some other people. Oh yeah, 2713 02:14:04,160 --> 02:14:07,320 Speaker 3: they could kidney all that ship, all that shit, man, 2714 02:14:07,400 --> 02:14:09,960 Speaker 3: all that ship gets recycled. Man, you'll ask to get 2715 02:14:10,000 --> 02:14:10,360 Speaker 3: broke down. 2716 02:14:10,360 --> 02:14:13,360 Speaker 1: And the secary part about that, your family members don't 2717 02:14:13,360 --> 02:14:15,400 Speaker 1: got to know because once they once they get a 2718 02:14:15,400 --> 02:14:18,560 Speaker 1: hold of your ass after the funeral and ship, they 2719 02:14:18,640 --> 02:14:20,600 Speaker 1: could take your body's been going before the hit your 2720 02:14:20,600 --> 02:14:24,320 Speaker 1: funeral and break your ship down the casket. Your family 2721 02:14:24,360 --> 02:14:26,200 Speaker 1: don't know if you'll kids and they don't know, and 2722 02:14:26,280 --> 02:14:28,040 Speaker 1: they could put some plastic guards in your head. 2723 02:14:28,120 --> 02:14:29,200 Speaker 2: All your eyes are closed. 2724 02:14:30,880 --> 02:14:34,160 Speaker 3: So all I'm saying is as brothers out of these 2725 02:14:34,200 --> 02:14:37,840 Speaker 3: streets doing making it just the civil war we got 2726 02:14:37,920 --> 02:14:40,800 Speaker 3: going on. Think about man, this just think about that ship. 2727 02:14:40,840 --> 02:14:43,600 Speaker 3: That's all dude, My my, my, My nonprofit is called 2728 02:14:43,640 --> 02:14:44,120 Speaker 3: hood Piece. 2729 02:14:44,200 --> 02:14:44,360 Speaker 2: Man. 2730 02:14:44,840 --> 02:14:46,600 Speaker 3: I'm trying to put some peace and Compton. 2731 02:14:46,360 --> 02:14:50,600 Speaker 2: Dot Yeah we needed man, We've been trying for years. Man. 2732 02:14:50,920 --> 02:14:53,680 Speaker 2: It's just, you know, it's just it's just unfortunate. 2733 02:14:53,800 --> 02:14:55,720 Speaker 3: Do you realize how many people, i mean, youngsters grew 2734 02:14:55,800 --> 02:14:58,080 Speaker 3: up ain't never seen peace in the hood. I've seen 2735 02:14:58,120 --> 02:14:59,000 Speaker 3: peace of the hood before. 2736 02:14:59,120 --> 02:14:59,280 Speaker 2: Man. 2737 02:14:59,640 --> 02:15:01,320 Speaker 3: I'm on enough to be able to walk. Remember, I 2738 02:15:01,320 --> 02:15:05,480 Speaker 3: could walk through Compton and not get Jack Man. Walk 2739 02:15:05,520 --> 02:15:08,040 Speaker 3: from Saint Alberts. The Captain of the Park used to 2740 02:15:08,040 --> 02:15:09,560 Speaker 3: be a dairy right there in the corner. Go to 2741 02:15:09,640 --> 02:15:11,480 Speaker 3: Captain of the park, hang the fuck out for a minute, 2742 02:15:11,640 --> 02:15:13,560 Speaker 3: and walk my ass down Chilly Buck left on a 2743 02:15:13,760 --> 02:15:15,960 Speaker 3: D thirty fifth, take my ass, hop the fist of 2744 02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:16,880 Speaker 3: badguard and go home. 2745 02:15:18,160 --> 02:15:22,360 Speaker 2: I could probably do that up until I was probably 2746 02:15:22,440 --> 02:15:31,440 Speaker 2: about nine years old in Compton. After that, you ten, eleven, twelve, 2747 02:15:32,360 --> 02:15:35,920 Speaker 2: you started getting sweated at the bus stops going to school. 2748 02:15:36,840 --> 02:15:40,760 Speaker 2: You know, niggas started jacking you for your starter jackets 2749 02:15:40,920 --> 02:15:44,640 Speaker 2: and all that type of shit. So, I mean, there 2750 02:15:44,800 --> 02:15:47,400 Speaker 2: was a time when I grew up as a kid 2751 02:15:47,600 --> 02:15:53,480 Speaker 2: in Compton to where it probably was gangs like a motherfucker. 2752 02:15:53,520 --> 02:15:56,320 Speaker 2: But I didn't notice. You know, I rode my bike 2753 02:15:56,400 --> 02:15:59,560 Speaker 2: up and down the street, or play with my cousins 2754 02:15:59,680 --> 02:16:04,560 Speaker 2: on the weekend, or you know, I didn't notice. I 2755 02:16:04,720 --> 02:16:09,200 Speaker 2: never noticed, like damn they gang banging over here. Nigga's 2756 02:16:09,200 --> 02:16:11,720 Speaker 2: over here wearing blue, and then nigga's over there waring. 2757 02:16:12,120 --> 02:16:14,560 Speaker 2: I didn't notice that until I got probably about ten 2758 02:16:14,600 --> 02:16:17,600 Speaker 2: and eleven twelve and going to school one day and 2759 02:16:17,720 --> 02:16:21,280 Speaker 2: niggas pulled up on us at the bus stop and like, Nigga, 2760 02:16:21,320 --> 02:16:24,520 Speaker 2: where y'all from? And I'm looking like, what the fuck? 2761 02:16:24,720 --> 02:16:27,200 Speaker 2: What do you mean? Where we from? And nigga, you 2762 02:16:27,320 --> 02:16:29,400 Speaker 2: know where you at? And while you got that blue 2763 02:16:29,520 --> 02:16:32,200 Speaker 2: jacket on, and won't you walk? And I'm like, oh, okay, 2764 02:16:32,600 --> 02:16:36,480 Speaker 2: And that's when I first noticed these niggas gang banging 2765 02:16:36,560 --> 02:16:39,000 Speaker 2: out here. Huh. But check this out there. 2766 02:16:40,120 --> 02:16:43,680 Speaker 3: I fuck with Compton College a lot, right if cats, 2767 02:16:44,360 --> 02:16:48,120 Speaker 3: if somebody wants to get get the shit together and 2768 02:16:48,320 --> 02:16:53,720 Speaker 3: get educated. Compton College got so many goddamn programs, free books, 2769 02:16:54,160 --> 02:16:58,160 Speaker 3: free food, free transportation, all kind of shit. They do 2770 02:16:58,360 --> 02:17:00,720 Speaker 3: everything but wake your ass up and rush your motherfucking teeth. 2771 02:17:01,440 --> 02:17:03,480 Speaker 1: Okay, thing, man, there's a lot of ways out here, 2772 02:17:03,560 --> 02:17:05,760 Speaker 1: man for brothers to better They circles exactly. 2773 02:17:06,120 --> 02:17:09,680 Speaker 3: But but here here's the problem. So many cats either 2774 02:17:09,760 --> 02:17:11,920 Speaker 3: if they ain't got no car, fraid to get on 2775 02:17:11,959 --> 02:17:14,039 Speaker 3: the bus stop? Can they gotta go through any hood 2776 02:17:14,040 --> 02:17:17,720 Speaker 3: to be different hoods? Your education is being stifled by 2777 02:17:17,959 --> 02:17:19,640 Speaker 3: us not being able to get a loan on each other. 2778 02:17:19,720 --> 02:17:21,600 Speaker 3: One of the nigga give a nigga pass to go 2779 02:17:21,640 --> 02:17:22,199 Speaker 3: to school. 2780 02:17:22,000 --> 02:17:25,440 Speaker 2: The least man. Yeah, it's gotta be a truly motherfucker 2781 02:17:25,480 --> 02:17:29,920 Speaker 2: who's really about being educated, Because shit, niggas look down. 2782 02:17:30,280 --> 02:17:32,879 Speaker 2: Niggas looked down at you for getting on the fucking bus. 2783 02:17:33,600 --> 02:17:36,480 Speaker 2: Get me, nigga, you're on the bus, or you broke ass. 2784 02:17:36,560 --> 02:17:40,400 Speaker 2: Motherfucker you riding the bus, motherfucker, you get me. Niggas 2785 02:17:40,480 --> 02:17:43,120 Speaker 2: look down on you for trying to create that effort. 2786 02:17:43,280 --> 02:17:45,840 Speaker 2: You get me, like you should be proud of a nigger. 2787 02:17:45,920 --> 02:17:47,960 Speaker 2: Nigga I'm getting on the bus every day trying to 2788 02:17:48,000 --> 02:17:50,600 Speaker 2: go to school, lit better myself. You got nigg as, 2789 02:17:50,600 --> 02:17:53,280 Speaker 2: soon as you get off the bus, you broke ass. Nigga, 2790 02:17:53,320 --> 02:17:56,560 Speaker 2: you ride the bus. Motherfucker. We was looking. We like 2791 02:17:56,680 --> 02:17:59,400 Speaker 2: I used to tell niggas here you go to New York, 2792 02:17:59,440 --> 02:18:02,440 Speaker 2: you getting the cab. That's the thing to do here. 2793 02:18:03,160 --> 02:18:06,880 Speaker 2: You're broke, casting a cab. You riding cabs around, nigga, 2794 02:18:06,879 --> 02:18:09,280 Speaker 2: All y'all, broke is a motherfucker. Nigga felt like some 2795 02:18:09,480 --> 02:18:13,039 Speaker 2: common you ain't broke all it the calve and ship cab. 2796 02:18:13,080 --> 02:18:14,280 Speaker 3: You gotta have the money these days. 2797 02:18:14,320 --> 02:18:16,280 Speaker 2: I mean back of the day, my mom called us 2798 02:18:16,320 --> 02:18:18,440 Speaker 2: a cab. You needs to be like calling us a 2799 02:18:18,560 --> 02:18:21,320 Speaker 2: cab for like, that's a symbol of being broke, like 2800 02:18:21,400 --> 02:18:22,119 Speaker 2: a motherfucker. 2801 02:18:23,000 --> 02:18:25,120 Speaker 3: No niggas is hopping in ubers and shito. 2802 02:18:25,760 --> 02:18:28,200 Speaker 2: Yeah the uber Hey, what. 2803 02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:30,120 Speaker 3: Can I tell you, man, I'm just had to drop 2804 02:18:30,160 --> 02:18:31,560 Speaker 3: that on some folks man. 2805 02:18:31,520 --> 02:18:34,280 Speaker 2: Just on the Strip's the it's the environment and like 2806 02:18:34,520 --> 02:18:37,640 Speaker 2: the people you around, and it's just what people expecting, 2807 02:18:37,680 --> 02:18:40,520 Speaker 2: what people think of a motherfucker. Instead of trying to 2808 02:18:40,600 --> 02:18:44,240 Speaker 2: congratulate a nigga for putting in that effort to change itself. 2809 02:18:44,680 --> 02:18:47,480 Speaker 2: You know, we come from an era where niggas look 2810 02:18:47,600 --> 02:18:50,360 Speaker 2: down on you for being a hood nigga for wanting 2811 02:18:50,400 --> 02:18:54,160 Speaker 2: the better itself. You feel me? Yeah, yeah, we we 2812 02:18:54,320 --> 02:18:55,400 Speaker 2: all come from that era. 2813 02:18:55,680 --> 02:18:58,280 Speaker 3: Like, as a OG the Triple OG, I would like 2814 02:18:58,320 --> 02:19:01,400 Speaker 3: to see motherfuckers be more proud of having more cash 2815 02:19:01,560 --> 02:19:03,280 Speaker 3: walking the stage than walking the yard. 2816 02:19:04,240 --> 02:19:04,760 Speaker 2: Definitely. 2817 02:19:05,320 --> 02:19:07,640 Speaker 3: You know, that's just a dream of mine as a 2818 02:19:07,760 --> 02:19:12,000 Speaker 3: Triple OG nine affiliated motherfucker, to have more niggas walking 2819 02:19:12,480 --> 02:19:15,520 Speaker 3: walking across the stage a Compton High Domingus College, or 2820 02:19:15,520 --> 02:19:18,040 Speaker 3: whatever the case may be, than walking walking the yards 2821 02:19:18,080 --> 02:19:18,840 Speaker 3: of a penitentiary. 2822 02:19:19,000 --> 02:19:21,640 Speaker 1: Lins as a cat that come from out of town, Man, 2823 02:19:21,640 --> 02:19:24,680 Speaker 1: they kind of hitting California at this peak of gang banging. 2824 02:19:25,360 --> 02:19:26,959 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say, at this peak, I came out 2825 02:19:26,959 --> 02:19:30,440 Speaker 1: to California eighty eight, where you from the Cleveland, Okay, Cleveland, Ohio. 2826 02:19:30,520 --> 02:19:33,440 Speaker 1: I came out here in nineteen eighty eight, had plenty 2827 02:19:33,480 --> 02:19:36,600 Speaker 1: of invitations, man, the joint gangs. Man, my homeboy Find 2828 02:19:36,800 --> 02:19:38,800 Speaker 1: was trying to jump me in every other day, you know. 2829 02:19:39,160 --> 02:19:42,039 Speaker 1: But the one thing I noticed, man, I said, Man, 2830 02:19:42,120 --> 02:19:45,120 Speaker 1: that shit seemed like a no win situation, I'm not 2831 02:19:45,280 --> 02:19:47,360 Speaker 1: fucking with that because I would notice when I would 2832 02:19:47,360 --> 02:19:50,120 Speaker 1: be wanting to go certain places, like, hey, man, let's 2833 02:19:50,160 --> 02:19:50,760 Speaker 1: go this mall. 2834 02:19:50,800 --> 02:19:52,200 Speaker 3: I heard, it's a mall. You know, I'm from out 2835 02:19:52,200 --> 02:19:54,000 Speaker 3: of town. I want to go there, or we can't 2836 02:19:54,040 --> 02:19:54,280 Speaker 3: go there? 2837 02:19:54,320 --> 02:19:57,920 Speaker 1: I said, damn, so y'all segregate y'allselfight, that said, I 2838 02:19:57,959 --> 02:19:59,920 Speaker 1: don't want to be involved. And plus I started meeting 2839 02:20:00,040 --> 02:20:02,800 Speaker 1: different cats from different neighborhoods and realized, what, man, if 2840 02:20:02,840 --> 02:20:05,200 Speaker 1: I fuck with them, I might not be able to 2841 02:20:05,240 --> 02:20:06,960 Speaker 1: fuck with the homie like I used to while I 2842 02:20:07,120 --> 02:20:08,880 Speaker 1: can't go over there. It was just seemed like it 2843 02:20:08,959 --> 02:20:10,600 Speaker 1: limited your opportunity too much. 2844 02:20:10,600 --> 02:20:11,039 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 2845 02:20:11,680 --> 02:20:14,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely correct, Doc, it does limit your opportunities. 2846 02:20:14,280 --> 02:20:17,600 Speaker 1: And the one thing I couldn't understand is, like I said, Man, okay, 2847 02:20:17,680 --> 02:20:19,480 Speaker 1: y'all supposed to be from the same place, but it 2848 02:20:19,560 --> 02:20:22,720 Speaker 1: seemed like this nigga more scannless. The nigga that is 2849 02:20:22,760 --> 02:20:24,760 Speaker 1: from your neighborhood is more scanless than the nigga this 2850 02:20:25,120 --> 02:20:26,640 Speaker 1: just enemies, you know what I'm saying. 2851 02:20:26,760 --> 02:20:30,680 Speaker 2: So it was just a no wining situation. Yeah, well, 2852 02:20:31,120 --> 02:20:34,039 Speaker 2: we didn't see it like that doog, which was unfortunate. 2853 02:20:34,560 --> 02:20:37,800 Speaker 2: We thought it was everything well, our gang banging and 2854 02:20:37,879 --> 02:20:41,600 Speaker 2: dope slaling and claiming the hood was got the sack 2855 02:20:41,680 --> 02:20:45,400 Speaker 2: that shit. I couldn't even tell you, man, I couldn't 2856 02:20:45,440 --> 02:20:46,040 Speaker 2: even tell you. 2857 02:20:46,600 --> 02:20:48,879 Speaker 3: I got a question for you, who you think makes 2858 02:20:49,200 --> 02:20:51,800 Speaker 3: made the most money in the dope era? 2859 02:20:53,959 --> 02:20:56,959 Speaker 6: Shoot, according to all of the federal government, not the Nigga, 2860 02:20:57,080 --> 02:21:02,440 Speaker 6: not usos. Yeah, Koreans came into our community doing the 2861 02:21:02,480 --> 02:21:04,880 Speaker 6: dope aron and took over everything black. You can't buy 2862 02:21:04,920 --> 02:21:07,240 Speaker 6: a pair of tennis shoes, a bottle of Hennessy, a 2863 02:21:07,320 --> 02:21:08,640 Speaker 6: piece of chicken when I give them to somebody. 2864 02:21:08,680 --> 02:21:10,520 Speaker 1: Don't you know what I'm gonna tell you this though. 2865 02:21:10,680 --> 02:21:13,800 Speaker 1: I used to talk to the old, old black dude 2866 02:21:13,840 --> 02:21:17,000 Speaker 1: that owned the liquor store, Jay's Liquor O from Western Okay. 2867 02:21:17,200 --> 02:21:19,600 Speaker 1: He did, now, I believe, but he told me, he said, Man, 2868 02:21:19,640 --> 02:21:21,160 Speaker 1: at one time, all these liquors. 2869 02:21:20,840 --> 02:21:22,400 Speaker 2: Stores all up black on all of them. 2870 02:21:23,040 --> 02:21:26,680 Speaker 3: After the after the sixty five riots, all the Jewish 2871 02:21:26,720 --> 02:21:28,879 Speaker 3: community moved out of the hood. Black folks bought all 2872 02:21:28,920 --> 02:21:32,000 Speaker 3: the businesses, and when the crack came in, everybody ran 2873 02:21:32,080 --> 02:21:35,000 Speaker 3: out of here, and then the careers took over. I 2874 02:21:35,080 --> 02:21:37,560 Speaker 3: ain't mad at him, but I'm just faed. That's how 2875 02:21:37,680 --> 02:21:41,440 Speaker 3: that's how the economics change in the hood and uh, 2876 02:21:41,680 --> 02:21:44,240 Speaker 3: the swap meets came in the eighties. Also, you ain't 2877 02:21:44,240 --> 02:21:45,560 Speaker 3: see you ain't seen the brother of the swap me 2878 02:21:45,680 --> 02:21:48,520 Speaker 3: doing nothing but baby helping somebody. From time to time. 2879 02:21:48,720 --> 02:21:50,280 Speaker 3: You had one brother in the bottom of the swap 2880 02:21:50,360 --> 02:21:51,680 Speaker 3: meat to the bottom of the long beast, and the 2881 02:21:51,879 --> 02:21:54,280 Speaker 3: comps to swap meet at the bottom doing T shirts and. 2882 02:21:54,360 --> 02:21:56,520 Speaker 2: Uh and air brushing, air brushing. 2883 02:21:56,640 --> 02:22:03,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody else was black, and brothers would would sell dope, 2884 02:22:04,360 --> 02:22:06,959 Speaker 3: run from the police and kill each other all night 2885 02:22:07,000 --> 02:22:08,959 Speaker 3: and all day to go to the saft and spot 2886 02:22:09,000 --> 02:22:11,320 Speaker 3: beat to buy them jeans, some tennis shoes them, speakers 2887 02:22:11,400 --> 02:22:13,120 Speaker 3: and amps, whatever the case may be. 2888 02:22:13,400 --> 02:22:19,160 Speaker 5: And then links. Then as Cubans with the Turkish you 2889 02:22:19,280 --> 02:22:24,679 Speaker 5: had Turkeys had get you a fake Gucci. 2890 02:22:29,440 --> 02:22:31,920 Speaker 2: Nigga with the hood or the belt buckle nigger I 2891 02:22:32,000 --> 02:22:34,160 Speaker 2: put I put my hood on there with the little 2892 02:22:34,240 --> 02:22:37,200 Speaker 2: belt buckles with the letters nigga, and and with the 2893 02:22:37,320 --> 02:22:39,840 Speaker 2: Turkish ear ring nigga, with the rope nigga and the 2894 02:22:39,920 --> 02:22:43,520 Speaker 2: bracelet with the fake Gucci wallet Niggas. They're looking hard 2895 02:22:43,720 --> 02:22:49,040 Speaker 2: like a motherfuck looking hard like a mother and my 2896 02:22:49,160 --> 02:22:53,800 Speaker 2: motherfucking gap cord with my corduroyds Nigga, my T shirt 2897 02:22:54,000 --> 02:22:58,160 Speaker 2: with my fake ass Gucci belt af nigga looking hard nigga. Man, 2898 02:22:58,240 --> 02:23:02,240 Speaker 2: that's all I wanted. Man with some niggas was as 2899 02:23:02,360 --> 02:23:06,119 Speaker 2: crazy as a motherfucking link. Like you said, nigga gonna 2900 02:23:06,120 --> 02:23:10,760 Speaker 2: sell it dope all night, getting blasted on, running from 2901 02:23:10,879 --> 02:23:13,400 Speaker 2: five all and then goes like he said me to 2902 02:23:13,480 --> 02:23:15,840 Speaker 2: take his money right up to the swat and wagon. 2903 02:23:16,280 --> 02:23:17,080 Speaker 2: Give me some money. 2904 02:23:17,680 --> 02:23:21,480 Speaker 3: Nobody they had. They give me some not your dirty money. 2905 02:23:21,560 --> 02:23:23,320 Speaker 3: Just got cleaning things to them. But you can't benefit 2906 02:23:23,400 --> 02:23:25,920 Speaker 3: from it. You ain't mad at them. I'm just saying, 2907 02:23:26,040 --> 02:23:28,959 Speaker 3: they like give it here, nigg observation. Baby, that's all you. 2908 02:23:30,800 --> 02:23:33,160 Speaker 2: After you got about five hundred dollars worth of crack 2909 02:23:33,280 --> 02:23:35,400 Speaker 2: money right there, they like give it right here. They 2910 02:23:35,480 --> 02:23:39,640 Speaker 2: could take these take these goods. Speaking of the crack, 2911 02:23:40,120 --> 02:23:42,960 Speaker 2: did you watch did you with Snowfall in every episode? 2912 02:23:43,760 --> 02:23:45,840 Speaker 2: How accurate was that to you? Nah? 2913 02:23:46,440 --> 02:23:49,280 Speaker 3: You know it had his point, they had his times, 2914 02:23:49,720 --> 02:23:52,480 Speaker 3: but it was accurate. Like Homegirl being being turned out 2915 02:23:52,560 --> 02:23:54,920 Speaker 3: and cleaning up. I've seen that happened many a time 2916 02:23:55,520 --> 02:23:58,720 Speaker 3: she was out there blowing knocking off everything. Sad she 2917 02:23:59,360 --> 02:24:02,920 Speaker 3: get cleaned up. I remember a lot of the cats 2918 02:24:03,080 --> 02:24:06,000 Speaker 3: from the neighborhood would blow up and they started testing 2919 02:24:06,520 --> 02:24:08,840 Speaker 3: smoking their own ship and fall right the back down. 2920 02:24:10,720 --> 02:24:13,320 Speaker 3: I remember the fucking that that ship was based on 2921 02:24:14,360 --> 02:24:18,760 Speaker 3: Nickoson gardens and that always been on fire. Okay, that 2922 02:24:19,360 --> 02:24:23,160 Speaker 3: always been on fire one or two Rick Ross, I 2923 02:24:23,240 --> 02:24:28,440 Speaker 3: mean an actual Freeway Rick character. I know Freeway, and 2924 02:24:29,000 --> 02:24:31,080 Speaker 3: he was the most laid back guy, like Franklin to 2925 02:24:31,160 --> 02:24:35,040 Speaker 3: a certain degree. I didn't know him at that time 2926 02:24:35,280 --> 02:24:37,360 Speaker 3: when he was the balling out of control. I heard 2927 02:24:37,400 --> 02:24:40,480 Speaker 3: his name, but I think a few things they left out, 2928 02:24:41,080 --> 02:24:43,320 Speaker 3: like when he reason why they called him Freeway was 2929 02:24:43,360 --> 02:24:45,280 Speaker 3: because he had a big as apartment by the Freeway 2930 02:24:46,120 --> 02:24:48,320 Speaker 3: and right by the fucking one ten. He turned the 2931 02:24:48,360 --> 02:24:53,040 Speaker 3: whole apartment building into his goddamn spot. And he was 2932 02:24:53,080 --> 02:24:56,000 Speaker 3: a tennis player. He wasn't even a even even in 2933 02:24:56,280 --> 02:24:58,920 Speaker 3: his documentary, the fans say they saw the guy almost 2934 02:24:59,000 --> 02:25:01,880 Speaker 3: every day walking, asked with tennis rackets, didn't pay him 2935 02:25:01,879 --> 02:25:08,360 Speaker 3: no attention. He didn't look like a dope. Okay, the uh, 2936 02:25:09,360 --> 02:25:12,200 Speaker 3: the fans being involved in that ship, that ship is documented. 2937 02:25:13,160 --> 02:25:16,039 Speaker 3: The guy who told on the FEDS how he died 2938 02:25:16,400 --> 02:25:19,680 Speaker 3: shot himself committed suicide by shooting himself in the head 2939 02:25:19,720 --> 02:25:21,160 Speaker 3: two times. Documented. 2940 02:25:21,280 --> 02:25:25,560 Speaker 1: Okay the news reporter. Yeah, they said this motherfucker committed 2941 02:25:25,600 --> 02:25:27,360 Speaker 1: suicide and shot himself on the head twice. 2942 02:25:27,400 --> 02:25:33,360 Speaker 3: Twice. You shoot yourself on the head. 2943 02:25:35,440 --> 02:25:39,640 Speaker 2: That nigga did. What it is I missed did the work. 2944 02:25:42,120 --> 02:25:44,400 Speaker 1: Isn't Even if you happen to survive that first shot, 2945 02:25:44,480 --> 02:25:47,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna be in such motherfucking this hong, You're gonna 2946 02:25:47,280 --> 02:25:48,560 Speaker 1: be up in that motherfucker like this. 2947 02:25:49,000 --> 02:25:51,240 Speaker 2: Big saying that nigga woke up. It was like, oh 2948 02:25:51,320 --> 02:25:51,720 Speaker 2: it did. 2949 02:25:53,400 --> 02:25:56,640 Speaker 3: Do it again. So I mean some ships, you know, 2950 02:25:56,879 --> 02:25:58,879 Speaker 3: when you when you know the real story, you remember 2951 02:25:59,240 --> 02:26:01,920 Speaker 3: living that ship the first time, you can see some 2952 02:26:02,000 --> 02:26:06,000 Speaker 3: of the similarities. But of course, in any any movie project, 2953 02:26:06,160 --> 02:26:08,080 Speaker 3: like just like Straight out of Competent, they always in 2954 02:26:08,400 --> 02:26:10,400 Speaker 3: they have they called it embellishment or they called it 2955 02:26:11,240 --> 02:26:14,400 Speaker 3: creative license. Right long as they don't long they don't 2956 02:26:15,080 --> 02:26:17,640 Speaker 3: change the story too much. If they I can, straight 2957 02:26:17,640 --> 02:26:19,480 Speaker 3: out of Competent, they made me gay or something like that. 2958 02:26:20,040 --> 02:26:21,920 Speaker 3: That wasn't gonna fly, But they can make me out 2959 02:26:21,920 --> 02:26:23,520 Speaker 3: to be an asshole because I can't be aphole. 2960 02:26:24,000 --> 02:26:25,600 Speaker 1: You would have made some money for sures. You could 2961 02:26:25,600 --> 02:26:27,880 Speaker 1: have sued the ship up there, because see one thing 2962 02:26:27,959 --> 02:26:29,760 Speaker 1: that people don't know about that that's why I tell 2963 02:26:29,800 --> 02:26:31,880 Speaker 1: people what these podcasts. Y'all would be careful if you 2964 02:26:31,920 --> 02:26:33,880 Speaker 1: can sue the ship out of the motherfucker. If a 2965 02:26:33,959 --> 02:26:34,880 Speaker 1: motherfucker going there? 2966 02:26:35,000 --> 02:26:36,039 Speaker 2: Line about you? Dog? 2967 02:26:36,640 --> 02:26:38,800 Speaker 1: Is this a couple of niggas montorny, don't hit me like, man, 2968 02:26:39,120 --> 02:26:40,800 Speaker 1: you want to go out? I'm like, I ain't tripping 2969 02:26:40,920 --> 02:26:43,400 Speaker 1: like that, but let's get it. I'm shit, I need 2970 02:26:43,520 --> 02:26:49,400 Speaker 1: some money. Yeah, money, let's get it. Ho many these 2971 02:26:49,440 --> 02:26:51,440 Speaker 1: motherfuckers ain't worth soon because you ain't gonna get. 2972 02:26:51,360 --> 02:26:53,400 Speaker 3: You gonna They're gonna get an exercise for your journey 2973 02:26:53,440 --> 02:26:54,160 Speaker 3: and put a lean. 2974 02:26:54,080 --> 02:26:54,560 Speaker 2: On the ship. 2975 02:26:54,640 --> 02:26:55,120 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 2976 02:26:55,720 --> 02:26:57,960 Speaker 1: It's just too much man, You know lones and we 2977 02:26:58,000 --> 02:26:59,440 Speaker 1: don't been up here for a minute. Man, where can 2978 02:26:59,480 --> 02:26:59,840 Speaker 1: the people go? 2979 02:27:00,640 --> 02:27:02,560 Speaker 3: They can find me tonight in a few minutes, probably 2980 02:27:02,560 --> 02:27:05,080 Speaker 3: if we don't get back in time on n W 2981 02:27:05,600 --> 02:27:08,200 Speaker 3: with Lonzo. Now, I got a new thing I'm doing now. 2982 02:27:08,320 --> 02:27:11,280 Speaker 3: If you want to be on my personal contact list, 2983 02:27:11,800 --> 02:27:14,879 Speaker 3: text me at four two four three six, three eight 2984 02:27:14,959 --> 02:27:17,520 Speaker 3: one four one in the message put Lonzo and you 2985 02:27:17,600 --> 02:27:20,600 Speaker 3: got me locked in? You're on that you're on that 2986 02:27:20,720 --> 02:27:25,480 Speaker 3: new text one text Lonzo and you got me locked in? Baby? 2987 02:27:25,640 --> 02:27:28,760 Speaker 3: That's cracking, Yes, sir, my website Lonzo William dot com. 2988 02:27:30,360 --> 02:27:32,400 Speaker 3: Ship my man, Dusty over the corner with me rolling 2989 02:27:32,440 --> 02:27:37,320 Speaker 3: with me right now. That's the Dusty Vision heal YouTube too, 2990 02:27:37,400 --> 02:27:38,000 Speaker 3: dust Division. 2991 02:27:38,120 --> 02:27:38,280 Speaker 2: Yes. 2992 02:27:38,920 --> 02:27:42,119 Speaker 3: And also my other podcast, My Boy Doctor Dre from 2993 02:27:42,120 --> 02:27:44,720 Speaker 3: your on TV raps. That's Dairy Connects every Friday. 2994 02:27:44,920 --> 02:27:47,640 Speaker 2: Okay, that's cracked. You know what I don't. 2995 02:27:47,720 --> 02:27:50,360 Speaker 3: I don't that's pretty dope. I don't saw that ship before. 2996 02:27:50,560 --> 02:27:51,080 Speaker 3: That's cracking. 2997 02:27:51,320 --> 02:27:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2998 02:27:51,560 --> 02:27:51,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2999 02:27:53,120 --> 02:27:55,800 Speaker 3: We got the East Coast connection, East coast, West coast, 3000 02:27:55,879 --> 02:27:58,840 Speaker 3: Old school connection. So we talk about all kind of 3001 02:27:58,840 --> 02:28:02,040 Speaker 3: shit from different perspectives based on today and also the 3002 02:28:02,280 --> 02:28:05,320 Speaker 3: West coast, East coast perspective, and we both got different 3003 02:28:05,320 --> 02:28:07,000 Speaker 3: ways of looking at ship. You know, when you're looking 3004 02:28:07,000 --> 02:28:10,480 Speaker 3: at were looking at in February sunshine and ship that 3005 02:28:10,600 --> 02:28:13,440 Speaker 3: nigga he in six for you to snow. So all right, 3006 02:28:13,560 --> 02:28:16,599 Speaker 3: ship he see. Well we say it's two different worlds. 3007 02:28:16,600 --> 02:28:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, for real, for real, man. Well, we appreciate you 3008 02:28:19,320 --> 02:28:22,040 Speaker 1: coming on the show. Definitely, definitely definitely go ahead, you 3009 02:28:22,160 --> 02:28:22,640 Speaker 1: back again. 3010 02:28:22,800 --> 02:28:22,959 Speaker 2: Man. 3011 02:28:23,360 --> 02:28:24,600 Speaker 1: That got to be able to come out and hang 3012 02:28:24,640 --> 02:28:26,840 Speaker 1: out with y'all for today, man, Yeah, for sure, man, 3013 02:28:26,879 --> 02:28:29,760 Speaker 1: And thanks y'all the fans for tuning in. Man to 3014 02:28:29,920 --> 02:28:32,199 Speaker 1: another episode against the Chronicles podcast. 3015 02:28:32,280 --> 02:28:33,920 Speaker 2: Man. Make sure y'all leave a comment. 3016 02:28:34,040 --> 02:28:36,840 Speaker 1: Man. You know, if you're on an Apple podcast, man, 3017 02:28:36,920 --> 02:28:38,920 Speaker 1: leave a comment and raping man going and hit us 3018 02:28:38,959 --> 02:28:41,039 Speaker 1: up with that five stars man or whatever you want 3019 02:28:41,080 --> 02:28:42,800 Speaker 1: to three stars, two stars, whatever. 3020 02:28:42,640 --> 02:28:44,920 Speaker 2: On your mind. I can give us one star ship. 3021 02:28:45,400 --> 02:28:48,959 Speaker 2: That's what you choose. Just do it and we're gone. Peace. 3022 02:28:49,400 --> 02:28:58,160 Speaker 7: Yeer my notes, bro, like Pinokyo, we gonna tell you 3023 02:28:58,240 --> 02:29:01,160 Speaker 7: the choose and nothing but taxed a chronic 3024 02:29:01,320 --> 02:29:04,119 Speaker 3: Pay of this is not your every children,