1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Jason Smith Show with Mike 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Harmon podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weeknight 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: ten pm to two am Eastern seven to eleven pm 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon at Foxsports Radio 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every night on the 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome inside Final Hour tonight the Jason Smith Show 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: with my best friend Mike Harmon. 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 3: Brew Brook back personally. 12 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: Congratulations with the Seahawks. Yeah, number one seed in the NFC, 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: tremendous achievement. 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: We talked about Sam Drono Blast hour, blah blah blah, 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: Najo to the controvert. Apologize great, Greg, Greg apologize. We 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: don't have time for that radio. There's no time for that. 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: Run No I di I okay, Sam Darnold, I'm sorry. 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: The Jets ruined you. 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 4: Stop. That's at you defamated him? Okay, I what you 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 4: know what you did? I don't think you know what 22 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 4: you just said, really defamated and defecated way. 23 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: So pooka nakua proving that you know, Hey, you don't 24 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: really hit rock bottom. You can continue to dig uh 25 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: recap this for you here before we get to Sean McVay, 26 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: because wow, uh the backdrop of tonight's game with the 27 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: Rams and the Seahawks Pookinakua yesterday doing a live stream 28 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: insulting the officials in the NFL saying that hey, they 29 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: just want to get screen time and he's not a 30 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: big fan, thinks officials are the absolute worst. 31 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 5: Now, the to take it further one step back was 32 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 5: the fact that they were trying to do the live 33 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 5: stream at the facility. Yeah, so the Rams and Sean 34 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 5: McVay were already involved of yeah, that's not gonna happen. Yeah, 35 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 5: so that sets the table for the later Eh. The 36 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 5: officials they want their their billboards. So this is Puoka 37 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 5: because you need to hear the audio from yesterday. This 38 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 5: is Pooka uh not being fans of any referees in 39 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 5: the National Football League because there's just something the rules. 40 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 6: Aren't then, like these guys want to be These guys 41 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 6: are lawyers and like real they want to be on 42 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 6: TV too. 43 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: Brother, Like off the game, you don't think he's he's 44 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: texting his friends in. 45 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: The group chat, like Yo, you guys just saw me 46 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: Sunday Night football like that. 47 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 7: That wasn't p I like, but I called it. I 48 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 7: was serious, did you do that? 49 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: I mean, these guys are noble human beings too. 50 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so they're the worst. They're they're normal human beings, 51 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: but they're the worst. 52 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: Wow. 53 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 5: Okay, it's like I have proof that they do this, 54 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 5: not just I'm throwing up a theory against the wall. 55 00:02:58,440 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: This is like, you know, you know what It's like. 56 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: It's almost, you know, we talk about the the the 57 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: evolution of plug people from Hey, they're just a good 58 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: superstar everybody loves, and then they start getting jaded and learn. 59 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: It's almost like a little bit like Steam and Willy 60 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: Beaman from any given Sunday right Jamie Fox shows. I 61 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: already likes him. He was throwing up on the sideline. 62 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden things get really weird. He 63 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: starts doing videos and stuff, and I mean, this. 64 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: Is pookin cool. 65 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, that whole yeah, that whole mediing, clean 66 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: cut superstar that was all last year. 67 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 8: Man. 68 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: Now I'll get down and dirty and I'll insult the referee. 69 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 5: So is this his version of like mc hammers pumps 70 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 5: in a bump, which is what Willy Beaman did during 71 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 5: during I mean. 72 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: Come on steaming, Willy Bean. 73 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: And so Pooka says that yesterday apologizes for something else. 74 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: He said in the live stream something you don't know 75 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: how to do that. 76 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, a dance that was that that's viewed as anti semitic. 77 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: He apologized for us and he didn't know what it was. 78 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: But we need to stick to the official part of 79 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: this because that's what plays into tonight and and what 80 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: we are going to play from Sean McVay. So, tonight's 81 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: game for the Rams, they had what nine penalties called 82 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: against them, nine penalties. A couple of them were pretty bad. 83 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: The first touchdown that got taken off the board and 84 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: they kicked the field goal was because a lineman was 85 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: ineligibly downfield and the play was at the Seahawks one 86 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: yard line. 87 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, suspect guy. 88 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: And you know, and the thing is it was a 89 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: new guard, right, their starting guard had gotten hurt. This 90 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: is a new player coming in and he just bulldozed 91 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: the defensive tackle and the DT kind of pulls him 92 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: down and because he buldos him into the end zone, 93 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: they called an eligible man down. 94 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, what do you got a three yard window? 95 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 5: So you're being technically beyond that. So it was an 96 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 5: eight to five, but eight penalty different. Well, just so 97 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 5: we know, fifty four yards against forty created so a 98 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 5: couple of big penalties. You had the big penalty on 99 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 5: the kickoff to start overtime where they were going to 100 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 5: start at the fifty, but a holding penalty on the 101 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 5: Rams they started back at the twenty. Didn't matter because 102 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 5: the Rams went and scored a touch on the drive, 103 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 5: so it didn't matter. But there were a bunch of 104 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 5: penalties every time you see them. 105 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: Of course, going off of what Puka said a day ago, 106 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: it becomes a story. You would think, Okay, Sean McVay, 107 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put a lid on this and no more 108 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: live streams, and Puka kind of gets that he shouldn't 109 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: be saying stuff like that not ninety seconds after the 110 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: game was over, and I'm not being you know, playing 111 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: with time here ninety seconds, which means he must have 112 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: ran to the locker room as fast as he ran 113 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: to the end zone on his last touchdown to get 114 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: to his phone to tweet out can you say I 115 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: was wrong? Appreciate you Stripes for your contribution. 116 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: Lol. 117 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: This is Puka about ninety seconds after the game. The 118 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: game ended, East. 119 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: Coast time eight fifty three itch. 120 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: Because I remember talking about it, you know, the minute 121 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: before we finished the segment and had to. 122 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: Go to break. 123 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: It was like an eight fifty three thirty, So we 124 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: had like a minute to talk about the winning two 125 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: point conversion. And we have a pretty good time on 126 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: our clock here because it's pretty legit time. This is 127 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: not where we're five minutes off. On Twitter, that tweet 128 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: was timestamped eleven fifty five, So ninety seconds after the 129 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: game is over, we got that tweet from Pooka Nakua. 130 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: Can you say I was wrong? Appreciate you stripes for 131 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: your contribution. 132 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: Lol. 133 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: Now Pooka deleted it, but it doesn't matter because it 134 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: was screen grabbed and a lot of people have it. 135 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 3: I mean, it's out there. He did this. 136 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: Uh, you can delete it if you want to. However, 137 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, when you know you tweet something, people are 138 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: gonna get it. 139 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 3: Yeahs forever. Brad Paisley had a whole song about the 140 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: Internet is forever. Yeah. 141 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 5: They're talking about taking your your selfies and all sorts 142 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 5: of other things that you would post no matter what 143 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 5: you think, it's out there in bits and fragments and 144 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 5: whatever forever. Now it's a question of all right, Pooka 145 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 5: himself or did he order the code red that Watch 146 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 5: how this game unfolds and then he just signals to 147 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 5: someone in the. 148 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: Crowd and he just hit send. 149 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: He had to get that tweet send it ready, he 150 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: just pressed that by telling you man Herm Edwards that 151 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: button that phone with the don't press send button like that. 152 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: I mean, really, he'd be an absolute. He'd be able 153 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: to buy the NFL with the money he would have. 154 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: People would buy that, teams would buy phones. Hey, I'm 155 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: buying fifty three phones from my guys every year that 156 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: don't press send button. 157 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: I mean, rob, did you guys. 158 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 5: Do with all the fines from people you know sending tweets? 159 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: And well we bought a small island, so whoka tweets 160 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: that out? It gets deleted? Okay, Well, it's gonna take 161 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: a little while for this to get brought up, like 162 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: maybe we'll deal with it tomorrow. No, no, no, reporters 163 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: had it right away. And here is Rams head coach 164 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: Sean McVay being caught off guard with that information in 165 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: his postgame press conference, Let's hear from Sean McVay. 166 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 7: David mcaveil. Shot there the revs. 167 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 3: I mean, what are you? 168 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 7: What are you talking about? You just put something on Twitter? 169 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 7: Accord points, Yeah, you know, so what are you asking 170 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 7: me right now? Do you are you? I can't answerr 171 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 7: questions about something that I'm not aware of. 172 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: Okay, but are you okay with players kind of expressing 173 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: frustration or things like that or is. 174 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 7: That something that you hope that they kind of keep themselves. 175 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 6: I got to have more information before I answer any 176 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 6: of those kind of questions. 177 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 7: What a conversations have you had with about his live 178 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 7: stream this week? Yeah, he was very apologetic. 179 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 6: I don't think he understood the totality of some of 180 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 6: the things. 181 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 7: I think he issued that apology. 182 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 6: I know this guy's heart man for anybody that was offended, 183 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 6: terribly sorry about that. I know he feels that same 184 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 6: exact way as a young guy. That's a great kid 185 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 6: that's continuing to learn about, you know, just the platform 186 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 6: that he has. 187 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: I love him. 188 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 6: We're going to continue to put an arm around him 189 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 6: and help him learn and grow. But we never want 190 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 6: to do things that ever offend anybody, and I know 191 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 6: he feels that same way. 192 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 7: How about to. 193 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 6: Give them those guys coming onto your property at the 194 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 6: facility in a short week as you're preparing for the 195 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 6: biggest Yeah, I. 196 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 7: Don't know anything about that stuff. 197 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 6: They came home and property outside part. 198 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 7: He said on the Life stew as you were mad, 199 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 7: I was. I don't think that he did he say 200 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 7: my name? He said boss is awesome. I assume with 201 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 7: those he was amazing. Any distraction this week, No, it 202 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 7: wasn't a distraction at all. 203 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 6: Did he did you think his play showed that he 204 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 6: was distracted? I didn't think so either. He went off 205 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 6: today he didn't, you know what? And I apologize for 206 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 6: you know what. I love this team, and man, when 207 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 6: you put out as much as our group does and 208 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 6: you care so much about something and you come off short, 209 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 6: it's incredibly disappointing. 210 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 7: But as it relates to just. 211 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 6: The things that that you're asking, you know, we always 212 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 6: want to make sure that we handle ourselves with class, 213 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 6: learn from it, or put my arm around him and 214 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 6: continue to educate our guys. 215 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 7: I love this team, I love his heart. 216 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 6: I think he's going to continue to grow and mature, 217 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 6: and I'm going to be there right there with him 218 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 6: to continue to. 219 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 7: Help do that. 220 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: You know, Okay, guys, you're good, You're good, You're good, 221 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: and you know. He walked away, and he walked up 222 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: to Pooka and he did the whole dumbledore to Harry, 223 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: did you put your name with the gobblet of fire? 224 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 3: He went up and said, did you really tweet out 225 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: something about the officier run after the game? Tell me, Harry, 226 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 3: did you do that? Did you put your name? Did 227 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 3: you put your name on that tweet? Harry? Did you 228 00:09:59,120 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 3: do that? Harry? 229 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: Did you did you do that? 230 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: You know how mad? 231 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 5: He wait? 232 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: Puka said what I'm not gonna talk about it, but 233 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, in Sean mcvay's brain, he is just seething 234 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: about it. And I give these reporters a ton of credit. 235 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: These are tough questions to ask Sean McVay after a game, 236 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: and generally I could see where they wouldn't be a 237 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: part of it if he didn't tweet what he did 238 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: after the game, Like if this was just hey, Pooka 239 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: said what he said in the live stream, They addressed it. 240 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: He apologized after the game. It's like, guys, come on. 241 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: We just played a game. He had two hundred twenty 242 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: five yards. He was awesome, we're over, we move past that. 243 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: I understand that. Maybe then okay, the reporters, maybe that's 244 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: not the time or place, but Pooka tweeting this opened 245 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: up that avenue for it, and I give these you know, 246 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: we talk about reporters asking bad questions all the time 247 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: and being afraid or not asking things the right way, 248 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: and that happens a lot. But these guys stayed on 249 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: it because that's the story. It's a big deal, and 250 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: I respect the hell of that out of them for 251 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: asking Sean McVay those questions, even though it was a 252 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: tough time to do it, right after the Rams gave 253 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: a game away. They probably should have one, and Sean 254 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: McVay has probably pissed his hell that they gave this 255 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: game away. But for the reporters to add to ask, 256 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: to continue to not just say one question, we're moving on, 257 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: and then somebody to jump in and go, uh so, hey, tonight, 258 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: what about Matthew and the game he played four and 259 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: fifty yards passing? Can you talk about that? Like to 260 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: stay on that like that's a that's a real that's 261 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: that's that's reporting one oh one on how to stay 262 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: with the story and ask the questions respectfully, not ask 263 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: the same thing over and over again, and go until okay, 264 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: we've exhausted this line of questioning and not just well, 265 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: one question and the guy's gonna say what he says. 266 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: We're moving on. It's pretty good job. No, But that's it, right, 267 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 3: because it's a two parter. 268 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 5: Like if he doesn't if he isn't aware of the 269 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 5: tweet from tonight, well, that's that's germane to the story, right, 270 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 5: because that means it's not over, it's not done, and 271 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 5: it's and it's not in your past. 272 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll continue to love and hug and look, I 273 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 3: love Sean McVay. 274 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 7: Uh. 275 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 5: You know, I remember us being on air locally in 276 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 5: LA when all that hiring went on and kind of going, well, 277 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 5: I don't know, we'll see what happens. And he's been brilliant, 278 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 5: there's no question about it. And and I love the 279 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 5: energy and orosity that he handles these things. But when 280 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 5: we talk about the reporter side of it, yeah, it 281 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 5: would have been very easy to stop because you know 282 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 5: McVeigh took it in the direction of hey, he apologized 283 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 5: and he'll learn from that talking about the the dance, 284 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 5: the anti Semitic part of it, right, apologize for that. 285 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 3: The official thing still still was hanging in the balance 286 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 3: a little bit. 287 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 5: There's not really a formal apology as far as as 288 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 5: far as I'm aware comes down. 289 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: I understand if you're Sean McVay about this is brand 290 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: new stuff. Maybe he doesn't know about it, because I'll 291 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: give benefit of out that maybe he didn't know that 292 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: Pooka tweeted that out by the time, because it's not 293 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: like someone's said, oh, hey, by the way, coach, you're 294 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: gonna get this question about Pooka after but not knowing 295 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: anything about it, not being able to talk to Puka 296 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: Nakula about it. I completely get where he's like, guys, 297 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to talk about this right now. You 298 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: want me to say something, I'm not going to talk 299 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: about it now. So they pivoted to the questions about 300 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: the life, which is what you're supposed to do. That's 301 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: how you do it, and that's how he was such 302 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: a great Uh. That's like, you know, I would I 303 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: would play that line of questioning in a in a 304 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: class for kids through journalism. This is how you do 305 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: it right. You ask the questions about it when you 306 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: know you're not gonna get me more from a from 307 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: a from a person. Hey, you pivot and say okay, 308 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: but we're still it's still a big story, and you 309 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: ask the different questions like they did the right thing 310 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: about it. Because I get Sean mcvaigh say, hey, listen, 311 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: he'll have to address it at some point, and he will. 312 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: He's not gonna say I'm not talking about it. 313 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 6: He will. 314 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 3: He will. 315 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: He will talk about it after he talks to Pooka 316 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: maybe tomorrow. But so I get that from his perspective. 317 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: But man, just again, mad props to reporters. I mean 318 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: that in classes tomorrow. Journalism classes should put that out there. 319 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: Rob Parker's journalism class. This is how you ask questions 320 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: after a game, Ask the tough questions after a game 321 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: where where a team walks and you know, the the energy, 322 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: the negative energy in the room is so palpable, but 323 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: still to do that outstanding. 324 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 5: And then he can follow your lead on how to 325 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 5: write an apology to Sam Darnold, but any. 326 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 3: And all of that glorgize to Sam Darnold. 327 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: Sam, Sam, I'm sorry you were a jet because that 328 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: really set you on the wrong way. 329 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 3: Say it like you mean it. I did. I'm sorry 330 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: he was a jet. It ruined his career. I said, 331 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: say it like you years Sam, I'm sorry you were 332 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 3: a jet. How like that? Is that good? Can I 333 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 3: have another? 334 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 9: Go? 335 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: Is that good? Kelly? I get another one? 336 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: Uh? Exit, I'm out of Fresca. Exit swollen down The 337 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. We 338 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: got more on Pooka, more on the best Thursday night 339 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: football game of the year. 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I I did my Sam darnold apology. 362 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: I did it. 363 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: I cost everybody Christmas. I'm sorry he was a Jet. 364 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that he's stunk as a jet, making this 365 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: a joke. I've said, Look, I said wonderful things about him. 366 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: Tonight is why you never ditch a quarterback. Take it 367 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: at the top of the NFL draft. There's a system 368 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: for everybody. He is the shiny example. There is a 369 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: system for everybody. But half the teams he's been on 370 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: it's not been the right system. Half the team has 371 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: been on it's been the right system right. It was 372 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: great with Minnesota, it's great with Seattle. It's stunk with 373 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: the Jets, it's stunk with the Panthers. He is a 374 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: He is the definition of a system quarterback. 375 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: Christmas is canceled. Chris, tell your fault. 376 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 5: You're getting cold, like Mel Gibson was giving everybody in 377 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 5: that movie. He was Santa Claus and Walton Goggins came after. 378 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 3: Uh huh. 379 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: So we had the Puka nakua controversy that we've talked 380 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: about the last half hour. 381 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 3: It's insane. 382 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: Now a couple of two point conversions want to play 383 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: for you from tonight. First, we'll have fun with this 384 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: before you get into the controversy. This is the final 385 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: call of the two point conversion, Darnald throwing it in 386 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: overtime for the Seahawks to win it thirty eight to 387 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: thirty seven. It's so exciting that the Seahawks play by 388 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: playing guys just don't even know what kind of score 389 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: it is. 390 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 3: Thanks for you motion back inside his barner. Darnald pastime 391 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: looks hits. 392 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 9: On hits time, make it extra point, make a conversion, 393 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 9: I don't. 394 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 3: Care what it is. Could say all to win the game. 395 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 3: Hockin hold the. 396 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: Last playing the game, I had a touchdown and conversion. 397 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 5: I get doesn't matter. The Seahawks won, That's all I 398 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 5: care about. How drunk do you think our guy's soft 399 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 5: team I don't care, man, I don't care. 400 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 3: Whatever. Whoever, however, as long as they cross that line, 401 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 3: I don't care. Man, Steve Rible, I think was I 402 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 3: don't care. 403 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: Touchdown, dude, that we won, okay, slamming the headphones down. 404 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 3: We won the game. I don't give a crap. Doesn't matter. 405 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 3: I know that's two points and we won the game. 406 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 3: It's a long game. 407 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 7: We won. 408 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 3: I'm going on. That's all. I'm done. I'm done. 409 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm like Jason Smith. I'm going to get drunk. I'm 410 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: gonna celebrate the Seahawks winning. He's can celebrating the Knicks 411 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: winning the e Cup and eliminating the Pacers from the 412 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: playoffs like they did tonight thanks to Jalen Brunson's three 413 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: and Ogannanoby Steele. Yeah, it's party time here, and see 414 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: how many smearing off ice. Oh last night, dude, I 415 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: was one and a half. I've still been drinking since 416 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: that's over. You kidding me too? 417 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 418 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't. I haven't slept in two days, good man. Yeah, 419 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: I feel like Giovanni Ribisi and friends. I haven't slept 420 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: in four months. Phoebe, take one of the chase and 421 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: you get wasted on o'dueles. You know, there's still beer 422 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: and o'dules. It's really wasted. It's a very tiny amount, 423 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: but it looks like you know, it's like course, there's 424 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: a very tiny amount in it. 425 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 5: It's like the beer you buy in Florida. A percentage 426 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 5: on this. But there is controversy over the two point conversion. 427 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 5: And again this you may never see something like this again. 428 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 5: You're gonna see big changes in the NFL, and they'll 429 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 5: tell you what they're gonna be. But the Seahawks were 430 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 5: down two touchdowns in the fourth quarter. Right, this is 431 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 5: one of those games where you see, oh, you know, 432 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 5: the Mets of uh they're oh in uh oh in 433 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 5: their last one hundred and seventy five games, trailing after 434 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 5: eight innings. Right, the Seahawks are what like, oh in 435 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 5: one seventy two in their history, trailing by two touchdowns 436 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter. Yeah, fifteen plus they had never 437 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 5: won a game, never won a game, never obviously, now 438 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 5: you put one on that board kind of like the 439 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 5: nick No one's ever blown a seven point lead in 440 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 5: the final minute of overtime like the Knicks did against 441 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 5: the Pacers. 442 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 3: But let's keep it on the focus here. 443 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: The Seahawks get the touchdown, they get the return for 444 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: the score by Rashid Shaheed, they get the touchdown pass 445 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: to aj Barner, and they go for two to try 446 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: to tie the game at thirty. And here's the play 447 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: by player the two point conversion that wasn't a two 448 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: point conversion and then it. 449 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 9: Was Arnold will go under center, JSM far side, throw 450 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 9: inside and the ball is battered down. And if this 451 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 9: ball is thrown backwards, and it kind of looks like 452 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 9: it is and it bounced off the defender rolled into 453 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 9: the end zone. Charbonay had one foot in the end 454 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 9: zone when he picked it up and that's all he needed. 455 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 10: And so reviewing the play, the Quarterbay threw a backward pass. 456 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 3: Which goes they covered any end zone by the offen. 457 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 3: It is the fastball conversion. 458 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 9: I'm telling you what, Sometimes it just. 459 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 3: Pays to live a good life. 460 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 9: And so now guess what wells we are tied at 461 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 9: thirty a piece. 462 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: Seahawks Radio Network on the call watching this play, it 463 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: really reminded me a lot of the Music City Miracle 464 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: because you see that there's so many different camera angles that. 465 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 3: We used to see. If it was in fact a 466 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,479 Speaker 3: backward pass, was it? 467 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 9: Now? 468 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: What happened was it's a quick hit play right and 469 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: Zach Sharbonay is lined up, you know, it's a bunch 470 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: formation to the left and Darnold takes one step and 471 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: tries to throw at Charbonay. In theory, is gonna grab it, 472 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: weave his way between defenders and get the two yards. However, 473 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 1: Rams defensive tackle jumps the play, gets a hand up 474 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: and deflects the pass. The ball bounces to the to 475 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: the ground and Kurl is there at the goal line. 476 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: He dives for it to intercept it, but he doesn't 477 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: get it. The ball hits the ground. Right, play is over. 478 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: Everybody's walking off, and Zach Charbonay just kind of casually 479 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: walks over, doesn't go over like the play is still live, 480 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: just casually walks over, stands in the end zone and 481 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: picks up the football right like. 482 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 3: Maybe one of those ab I'm gonna pick it up. 483 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: Probably nothing's gonna happen. So the play ends and no 484 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: two point conversion. Right, Rams still have the lead, except 485 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: they go back and look at it as you're play 486 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: by play, and after a long review, and there were 487 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: some angles where you could see that yeah, it was 488 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: a backwards pass. And you know from one angle where 489 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: it's on the field at the line of scrimmage, it 490 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: looks like it's right on the line. 491 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 3: Okay, so it's a forward pass. 492 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: Then they give you the overhead angle, and that really 493 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: looks like it's a backward pass because Darnold's arm is 494 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: about at the nine yard line and when he throws 495 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: it back you can see that where it gets deflected 496 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: is about the nine and a half yard line, almost 497 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: at the ten. So yeah, in that case, said it's 498 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: a backwards pass. The live ball, the ball bounces around 499 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: and Zack Charboney picks it up. Now I'm gonna say 500 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: this first of all, am I a big fan that 501 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: they did that. No, because that's not the spirit of 502 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: the play. That's not the spirit of play to say, well, 503 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: after the play is over and the referees may or 504 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: may not have blown the whistle for Zach Charbonay to 505 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: kind of just walk over and pick up the football 506 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: in a dead ball situation to give them a two 507 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: point conversion. Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of that. However, 508 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,239 Speaker 1: if it's a live ball, it's a live ball. And 509 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: what I've said, I got to be consistent what I've 510 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: said in the past. I was always a big fan 511 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: of I've said this for years for officials, don't blow 512 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: the whistle when a quarterback is going to throw the 513 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: football and it gets knocked out of his hand it 514 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: goes forward, don't blow the whistle on an incomplete pass 515 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: because you don't know. You don't know if his arm 516 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: was coming forward. You don't know if it got knocked 517 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: out before his arm was going forward. Now, before we 518 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: had replay, officials would say, well, if the ball went forward, 519 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: we know his arm must have been coming forward, so 520 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: we call it in complete. Now they don't do that anymore. 521 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: Now they can go back and look and they don't 522 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: blow the play dead because if the ball goes forward 523 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: someone falls on it, then we can adjudicate it after, right, 524 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: you can. You always have time with replay to look 525 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: at it after. So I was always a big proponent 526 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: that when that happens for the NFL, for quarterbacks, don't 527 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: blow the whistle, right, don't do it. Same thing for 528 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: plays like this, every play when a ball is thrown 529 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage, you can't blow the whistle on. 530 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: You have to go all the way until the play 531 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: is over, and that's either the offensive team falls on 532 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: the football the ball skiter's out of bounds, or the 533 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: defensive team falls on the ball or has it, or 534 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: they run it back for a touchdown. Then you can 535 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: always go back and look at it. Then you can 536 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: go back and look and say, okay, where is this, 537 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: what's the call? We can call it what you want 538 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: on the field, but don't blow the play dead. So, 539 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: if you're so, the changes that need to happen in 540 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: the NFL really because this is this is this has 541 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: happened a few times now this year because there's a 542 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: lot more plays at the line of scrimmage with quarterbacks 543 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: making these quick throws. If you are the NFL needs 544 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: to say, don't blow the whistle right because now we 545 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: don't know if the whistle was really blown out. There 546 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: some controversy about that. Again, I'm not a big fan 547 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: of it because it's not the spirit of the rule. 548 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: But for NFL players, anytime that ball is thrown there, 549 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: you treat that thing like a live ball and you 550 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: make a play on it, and you and and they'll 551 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: figure it out after it's over. Worst comes to worse. 552 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: You jumped on the football. You didn't get it, Okay, 553 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: that's fine, because the last thing you want is I 554 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: don't want to play like that to be a touchdown 555 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: where just because Zach Charbonay picks up the ball in 556 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: the end zone, if a RAMS player picked up the 557 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: ball and just walk the other way way, right, that's 558 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: not how the rules to go. But in the end, 559 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: I go back to the fact that it was a 560 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: backwards pass. So I'm okay with them getting the two 561 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: point conversion, but the way it went out that that's 562 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: not how the NFL wants it. 563 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 3: No, I did pretty ugly. 564 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 5: You know, there's a lot going on in the Twitter 565 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 5: verse and the Internet overall of arguing, well you can 566 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 5: hear a whistle, can you really? I mean, the crowd's 567 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 5: loud and rocks and trying to play the old play 568 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 5: through the reverberation of the whistle. Now, occasually it's gonna 569 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 5: get a little ugly and there's gonna be too much 570 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 5: contact and eventually flags come out front sports alike conduct. 571 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 5: But in this particular case, right, it's the old Hey, 572 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 5: you have a clear and undisputed recovery of the football. 573 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 5: Well we got that check. There's Charbonay just walking by 574 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 5: and picking it up like he's on a you know, 575 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 5: going and picking up Easter eggs. But you know, for 576 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 5: the officials, it it certainly is a curiosity for the 577 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 5: NFL that they have to address. I mean, this was 578 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 5: the battle for the number one seed in your conference. 579 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 5: And while there are plenty of opportunity to make a 580 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 5: play and finish the job otherwise, it looms large because 581 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 5: it is such an outlier and a chaos situation advancing 582 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 5: what's essentially a fumble for the two point conversion. And 583 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 5: then we did we just have this whole Woody Marks 584 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 5: thing a week ago? 585 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, how do we roll this? 586 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 2: What do we got? 587 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: While he scored? And you move on, But it's for 588 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 3: for the NFL. 589 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 5: Just when you think you've seen everything, lifers in football 590 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 5: like McVeigh are like, yeah, I don't know, I've never 591 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 5: seen this. 592 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'd like an explanation. 593 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's the right call was made, but 594 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: still the way it went it was it was just 595 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: something wrong about it. It just it just didn't strike 596 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: me as being right. This is not how a game, 597 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: any game, should be decided with a play or again, 598 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: when you're basically picking up a dead ball, because that's 599 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: what Charba Day did. I'm picking up it because nobody, 600 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: everybody else on the field is treating it as a 601 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: dead ball. The officials are treating it like it's a 602 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: dead ball. 603 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 5: So when that's it's supposed to go running to it, right, 604 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 5: I mean, like that's the only way that they clear 605 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 5: that up and make it an end point is the 606 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 5: official sprints to the ball like he's a ball boy 607 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 5: or a woman at Wimbledon, I got mine, but you 608 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 5: didn't have that, Sharbona and said, I mean, happily, that's 609 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 5: not how the game ended. 610 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, think about that. 611 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 5: They overturn it and they have to make that call, which, again, 612 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,959 Speaker 5: if depending on which angle you're looking at, you can 613 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 5: say it's clearly backwards by a half to a full 614 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 5: yard from where he's standing in the intended receiver as 615 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 5: the ball gets batted before it trickles forward. And then 616 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 5: the others like, well maybe maybe not. This is where 617 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 5: we start getting our laser proofing, Like we're we're building 618 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 5: a deck. 619 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I. 620 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: Hey, do you want to stay in your deck in 621 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: one shot and not have to worry about going up 622 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: three or four times. We'll use this super deck stain 623 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: right there, I got it right. Now, watch this. You 624 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: could just put one code on with one brushstroke and 625 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: look at that. It soaks right and then you get 626 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: the then you get the wood, the picture of the 627 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: wood like the inside of the wood, and it shows 628 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: you that it just soaks right down again. This protect 629 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: for five years. You won't need to restain your deck 630 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: for five years. Guarantee. 631 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 5: Get that five count all right. A couple quick notes 632 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 5: from the game as well. It was the first game 633 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 5: ever decided in overtime by a two point conversion. Raiders 634 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 5: had an opportunity against the Jaguars, it got swatted down. 635 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 5: The other is they were treated in this thirty eight 636 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 5: thirty seven thriller to a halftime performance by Living Color. 637 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 3: Wow. 638 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 5: Not not not the TV show This is enough. They 639 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 5: did some sketch comedy that would have been pretty good. 640 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 3: This is Corey Glover and Vernon reed. 641 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 10: No. 642 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 5: If they did a sketch comedy and came running out 643 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 5: like with a referee bit, that would have been pretty fun. 644 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: Did they do culti person guess they did Cultive personality 645 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: and glamour Boys. 646 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 5: Oh, I'm sure glam i don't add that. I just 647 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 5: I just had the words from their official Twitter account. 648 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 5: It was a halftime laser show featuring Living Color. 649 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: Glamour Boys got it all figured out? Yeah, I know 650 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: Glamor Boy, Uh quick, fierce. Corey Glover was he was 651 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: in platoon, right, he was in platoon? 652 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 7: Yeah? 653 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah he did, I remember. 654 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: And then Vernon Reid they did they did Culture Personality 655 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: while they were in the while they yeah, next to 656 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: Charlie Sheen. 657 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: Yay. 658 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 5: You want to go down a rabbit hole, just go 659 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 5: look for random live performances where Vernon Reed joins other guitarists. 660 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 5: It's like Prince and that while my guitar gently weeps. 661 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 5: It goes into a whole other sphere where you're mesmerized 662 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 5: and a rabbit hole that you can stay in for 663 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 5: a while. 664 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 3: And TJ I want to say this, look in my eyes. 665 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 3: What do you see? He it's what's trending with modsy 666 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 3: like Mussolini. Yeah too far? Yeah yeah yeah. Do you 667 00:29:59,200 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 3: know Living Color? 668 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 6: Yes? 669 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 3: I do know Living Cover. Yeah, okay, I vaguely remember it. 670 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 3: My brothers watched it. No, no, no, the band. 671 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: Oh I thought you were talking about the TV show. 672 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 3: Isn't there a TV show. 673 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: Color? 674 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 11: Never mind? 675 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 3: Kill this is just hanging out in your house? 676 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 11: Never mind, that's not anyway. 677 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 3: No, no, say there's a band. I'll look into it. Okay, No, 678 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 3: I know that. I really don't know, bus not Muscat 679 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 3: muzz Yes, I heard Living Color TV show. 680 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: So there we are. Are you living? 681 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 11: Yeah? Guys, you guys just talked about this A crazy 682 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 11: game that happened in Seattle between the Seahawks and the Rams. 683 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 11: Seattle now twelve and three, LA falls to eleven and four. 684 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 11: The Seahawks not only have the lead in the NFC West, 685 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 11: they're just the top seed right now in the NFC. 686 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 3: They've clinched a playoff spot. It was a crazy game. 687 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 11: Matthew Stafford threw for four hundred and fift twenty seven yards, 688 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 11: which was the third most of his career. The Rams 689 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 11: offense totaled five hundred and eighty one yards without a turnover. 690 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith 691 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven 692 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: pm Pacific