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Speaker 1: Zone Pouches. I want to wish everyone to marry Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully you have a great week with.

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Speaker 1: Family, friends, loved ones, and enjoy yourself. We will not

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Speaker 1: have any podcast or reaction on Christmas, mainly because the

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Speaker 1: games are so terrible and me nothing so did not

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Speaker 1: see this coming maybe a couple months ago, but I said,

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Speaker 1: let's enjoy ourselves, spend some time with family and not

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Speaker 1: work Christmas night for who for what? As my guy

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Speaker 1: Ricky Waters would say, that will be the tentative game

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Speaker 1: plan we will Saturday night I'll have We'll do it

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Speaker 1: live on YouTube, and then it'll be a podcast for

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Speaker 1: Sunday reacting to the Chargers play the Texans and the

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Speaker 1: So we will be uh, we will get back on

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Speaker 1: So excited for that, and then Sunday will be normal,

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Speaker 1: We're rocking and rolling again, and then then we got

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Speaker 1: college football playoff games next week, so we got a

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Speaker 1: gonna do. So before we do, I do just want

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Speaker 1: to hit on the three games. I mean Dallas playing

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Speaker 1: Brian schott Enneimer, you know I want. Dak's been one

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Speaker 1: I think you could make a pretty consistent argument with that.

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Speaker 1: And I just think he's he's gonna play well in

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Speaker 1: this game. Their team on Washington, the secondary is so bad.

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Speaker 1: So I love the Cowboys, which is crazy to say

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Speaker 1: minus seven on the road on Christmas, depending on where

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Speaker 1: you live. Morning for me it's you know, eleven am

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Speaker 1: Mountain time, but I anytime touchdown props for ceedee lamb.

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Speaker 1: For George Pickens. I mean George Pickens. Now, it's like

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Speaker 1: if I'm his agent, hey man, we want to finish strong.

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Speaker 1: We want negotiating power, whether it's Jerry, whether it's a franchise,

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Speaker 1: tag and trade, whether it's a big contract. We've had

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Speaker 1: kind of ran out of juice. Obviously their defense isn't good.

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Speaker 1: But what's Josh Johnson gonna do? Go to Josh Johnson's

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Speaker 1: Wikipedia page. It's craziest thing you'll ever see. He's played

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Speaker 1: in like three different leagues the XFL. I guess it

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Speaker 1: So I like the Cowboys minus seven this game Detroit

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Speaker 1: While JJ started showing signs of life, he's injured again.

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Speaker 1: So I think the Lions again, prideful organization, disastrous season

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Speaker 1: their situation with the uncertainty this offseason with are they

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Speaker 1: might not even They're not gonna even have to try

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence just annihilated Denver, so they're coming off a loss.

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Speaker 1: me has like twenty to three written all over it. Again,

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Speaker 1: the Typton's just rolled the Chiefs, and I think at

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Speaker 2: I think, if you're.

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid, you ruined the Raiders season and you lose them,

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Speaker 1: I mean, once upon a time Brian Flores, who is

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Speaker 1: big in this game wouldn't shock me at all. Sutton

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Speaker 1: Netflix spent a lot of money. These games on paper

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Speaker 1: And the Chiefs have been the biggest brand in the

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Speaker 1: be good again. And it just sometimes, you know, the

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Speaker 1: I mean every year you hear those numbers like four

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Speaker 1: Well, it's gonna happen this year. Lions out, you know,

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers missed last year, they're in obviously, Teams

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Speaker 1: And then really quick on the same Saturday matchups, I

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Speaker 1: I just think that they're gonna come with a spirited effort.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is like their defensive line. What Herbert

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Speaker 1: I don't like green Bay minus two and a half.

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Speaker 1: One thing I was thinking sometimes after I do like

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Speaker 1: But you can't franchise, franchise tach. I haven't even look

433
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Speaker 1: at the franchise number, but my guest would be forty

434
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Speaker 1: forty five million dollars.

435
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Speaker 2: You cannot do that.

436
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Speaker 1: I mean, Philip Rivers better than him, But Philip Rivers

437
00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 1: is a better player.

438
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Speaker 2: Of course he is.

439
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones on his best day has never been Philip

440
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: even close to Philip rivers I mean Philip rivers A.

441
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Speaker 2: We can argue.

442
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: About it, and to me, he's probably not quite good

443
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Speaker 1: enough to be in the Hall of Fame, but he's

444
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 1: right on that tier. Like he was a better player

445
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 1: throughout the course of his career than Eli Manning. Eli

446
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 1: Manning had the two better playoff runs, right, But I mean,

447
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: this is who we're talking about here, and I don't know.

448
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 1: I think the culture in a very, very weird spot.

449
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: I really do.

450
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Speaker 1: As you previously stated, Brock Purty will always be a

451
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 1: polarizing player. But why do bo Knicks and Caleb get

452
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: more credit? Purty and Knicks are twenty five, Caleb is

453
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: twenty four. At some point resumes should matter.

454
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 2: More than draft profile.

455
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Speaker 1: I like all three, but the sophomore players need to

456
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Speaker 1: show more with their stacked rosters. I think they would

457
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Speaker 1: fall into his category. I think Caleb Williams is extremely

458
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: polarizing player. Bow Knicks is even more polarizing than Caleb.

459
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Speaker 1: I mean, those guys would all fall under the bucket

460
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 1: of very polarizing. I mean Caleb as games where he's

461
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 1: just very inaccurate right, I mean throwing like fifty percent

462
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 1: in a league that is very, very.

463
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 2: Easy to complete passes.

464
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Speaker 1: I mean, let's just face it, like we talked about,

465
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Speaker 1: it's never been easier to complete passes in the history

466
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Speaker 1: of the league. And he can be inaccurate, but he

467
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: also makes incredible plays. And he's been the most clutch

468
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: guy in the league. But I like, if we just

469
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Speaker 1: played who would you trade who for? Like if the

470
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Speaker 1: Bears called the Patriots, Caleb straight up for Drake May,

471
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you who would hang up first, and it

472
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Speaker 1: wouldn't even be a question to be Mike Vrabel and

473
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Speaker 1: Josh mc daniels, you know. And unless I'm not trying

474
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Speaker 1: to shit on Caleb at all, like I've come around,

475
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Speaker 1: you make big time This is the bottom line league, right, Okay,

476
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Speaker 1: you play shitting in the second quarter. Well, if you're

477
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Speaker 1: making plays to win games, I can live with it.

478
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: Over the course of your career, you're gonna have to

479
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: be better and more accurate. But like Cam wasn't the

480
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Speaker 1: most accurate guy, but he made some big time plays

481
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: and he was a playmaker, right, And he was a

482
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: that you know, had some very successful season, won an MVP.

483
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: I would say, a shittier version of that was like

484
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson was more of a playmaker well before he

485
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: got to the Houston Texans, but he wasn't wasn't sitting

486
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: in the pocket and picking you apart. That's not the

487
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: way he played. Russell Wilson was by far the.

488
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Speaker 2: Best version of that.

489
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Speaker 1: But I think all those guys are extremely polarizing. The

490
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Speaker 1: only guys is like not polarizing is like Lamar Jackson

491
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Speaker 1: when he's dominating, and Josh Allen. Even Mahomes been like

492
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Speaker 1: is Mahomes losing a little bit?

493
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Speaker 2: Right?

494
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Speaker 1: I mean that's we do it with Herbert, Yeah, I

495
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: mean there's still a contingent like is this guy good?

496
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, he's good. Guys, you fucking morons. My

497
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: family and I excuse my language, children, our lifelong Vikings

498
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: fan We never miss a snap. If you were the Vikings,

499
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Speaker 1: why not offer four to five first round picks and

500
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Speaker 1: go make a move for Burrow. Last year we won

501
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Speaker 1: fourteen games with Darnold, and we obviously have the requisite

502
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Speaker 1: talent around him to succeed. I just feel like without

503
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Speaker 1: this kind of move, it's only a matter of time

504
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: before JJ wants out. They would say no, they're not

505
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Speaker 1: trading him this conversation. Listen, I get it's fun. I

506
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 1: get a lot of people are in the business. When

507
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Speaker 1: he makes a comment like that. I thought it was like, God,

508
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: this is such a waste of everyone's energy. They're not

509
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 1: he could demand a trade and they would say no.

510
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Speaker 1: And clearly he's come out and said like I'm not.

511
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Speaker 2: He's gonna be on the Bengals next year. So I

512
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Speaker 2: think the.

513
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Speaker 1: Max amount of first rounders you can trade in the

514
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Speaker 1: NFL is three years out, so you could only trade

515
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Speaker 1: if you had one first rounder of a year three

516
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: first rounders total. But I don't think there's anything you

517
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: could offer them that they would say yes. I just

518
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: don't it's not even possible. So you guys are in

519
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Speaker 1: a tough spot.

520
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Speaker 2: Man.

521
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Speaker 1: He's hurt again. Still a lot of question marks. Part

522
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Speaker 1: of the reason he was hurt, I haven't seen. Maybe,

523
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Speaker 1: I'm sure Kevin O'Connell was asked about it and explained it.

524
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 2: But on the.

525
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Speaker 1: Play which he was hurt, Like, is that his fault

526
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Speaker 1: for not seeing the block?

527
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 2: Guy?

528
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Speaker 1: You know, Anthony Richardson got obliterated in the preseason when

529
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Speaker 1: he ran a play and looked up the other side

530
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Speaker 1: when the protection clearly the guy was gonna be unblocked.

531
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Speaker 1: And was that the case? Again, I'm speaking a little

532
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Speaker 1: out of turn because I haven't seen O'Connell's comments on it,

533
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Speaker 1: and I don't pretend to be some you know, Andy

534
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: Reid here when it comes to schematics. But from the

535
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Speaker 1: naked eye sitting on my couch, it looked like JJ

536
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: McCarthy takes some blame on that why he's injured. And

537
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: again Anthony Richardson got destroyed in NFL circles for that.

538
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: So JJ's injured again. Showed some signs of light there

539
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. The problem is what was

540
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Speaker 1: against two of the worst teams in the league defensively,

541
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Speaker 1: especially so now he's injured and you go, we're just

542
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: gonna roll this guy back. It's a tough spot, man,

543
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Speaker 1: it really is. I feel for Vikings fans because god,

544
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Speaker 1: you guys are so close last year. I mean, you

545
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: guys were sixty minutes away from being the one seed.

546
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: If the Bills don't make it at least to the

547
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, they should fire both the head coach and

548
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: the GM and hire Robert Solo. The Bill's defense always

549
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: seems to struggle with injuries in the playoffs, and Sala

550
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: has shown he can manage a defense to adversity. Even

551
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: though our receiver suck. The offense has never been the problem.

552
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: It's always been the defense. Giving up thirty four points

553
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: per game to the Chiefs in four playoff games is unacceptable.

554
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: I truly believe Bean hasn't set McDermott up for success

555
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: on defense. But if our goal isn't met this year,

556
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: I don't think we can continue to run it back.

557
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: Many will see this as a lateral move. But what

558
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: are your thoughts. I hear what you're saying to fire McDermott.

559
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: To hire another defensive coach who was just in your

560
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: division who used to beat the shit out of is

561
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: kind of a tough sell. I guess Sala is a

562
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: little lighter personality, feels like a little more engaging than Sean.

563
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: You know, Sean can be a little stiff tight, But

564
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: like Shawn's proven, like I'm taking a playoff team a

565
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: year in year out. I mean, they just drafted a

566
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Speaker 1: wide receiver now, granted, what's his name, Josh Allen When

567
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: they drafted key On Coleman, part of it was Brandon

568
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: Bean sent a bunch of wide receivers. He watched them

569
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Speaker 1: and he liked him. That can't even he was in

570
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Speaker 1: act him again.

571
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Speaker 2: Last week.

572
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Speaker 1: I mean, what three of the last four games been inactive.

573
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: I mean it's a disaster. So I think, listen, Brandon Bean.

574
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Speaker 1: I was talking to a guy that worked in the

575
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: NFL who's advanced scouted them, and he's like, the thing

576
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: that you really noticed compared to some of the other

577
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: good teams over the last several years, they're kind of small.

578
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: They're just they're.

579
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Speaker 1: More built for Like if they were a college team,

580
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: he'd be like, they're a big twelve team, not an

581
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Speaker 1: SEC team. Now they're a big twelve team with the

582
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: best quarterback in the country, so it's like, yeah, we

583
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: can compete if he's slinging it. But there's something about

584
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: the way they built their team which is just something's off.

585
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: So I'm with you. He seems like a really nice guy.

586
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: I don't know him personally, but I do think the

587
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: GMS let them down. I think he'd have to be

588
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: the first to admit it. I would put it more

589
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: on the personnel staff than the coaching staff. Question for

590
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 1: your next show, should the Lions completely revamp their OW

591
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: and D line. I think we need a fresh start

592
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: and rebuild around Sewol and Hutch.

593
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Speaker 2: It's hard to do, man.

594
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: I mean one issue you guys are gonna have is like,

595
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: let's use the Bears for example. So this offseason they

596
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,479
Speaker 1: sign a center and I think they trade for two guards.

597
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: You have a lot of money tied up into a

598
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: lot of guys. Right, golf makes a lot of money.

599
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: Sewell signed a big contract, Saint Brown signed a big contract.

600
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: Hudgson that he already get paid or he's gonna get paid.

601
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: Jameson Williams got a contract extension. Gibbs is gonna need

602
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: a contract extension. You have a high priced team and

603
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: this worked. Talk about windows. Part of your window a

604
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: couple of years ago is like a lot of these

605
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: guys were on rookie deals and now they've become high end,

606
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: high priced guys. So I think that becomes a big,

607
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: big challenge for you. It's like where do you just

608
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: find offensive lineman? I mean you can draft them, but

609
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: we see that doesn't work out often, or like a

610
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: young guy is thrust into the action. You guys are

611
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: playing important games. It's tough, and it's hard to find

612
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. You know, part of the reason Hutchinson's elite,

613
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: who's drafted two overall, like you usually don't find tho

614
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: like Max Crosby is in an outlier that that is

615
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: very abnormal to the way to acquire defensive lineman. Right,

616
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: think of the best pass rushers in the league, if

617
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: we just go around, most of them are high end picks.

618
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Speaker 2: So I think that's really really difficult to do.

619
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Speaker 1: There's something your DB's just I feel like your dbs

620
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: get hurt every year all the time, and obviously branch

621
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: Tearing's achilles this year is pretty devastating. But yeah, I

622
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: don't really know what to tell you. I think it's

623
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: gonna be tough sledding.

624
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: At least.

625
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: The bright spot for you guys a lot of high

626
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: end playmakers, a lot of high end talent.

627
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you have.

628
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Speaker 1: Elite players that every team would want. But you know,

629
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: the play calling this year, the injuries, I don't really

630
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, I can't pretend to guess why that's happening,

631
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: but it's happening. I understand why Vrabel is a Coach

632
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: of the Year candidate, But when you look at Ben

633
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: Johnson and even Kyle Shanahan have done. How can it

634
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: even be close? The Bears are in a division with

635
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 1: the Packers, Lions, and the Vikings with Kevin O'Connell. Vrabel

636
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 1: has had to fight it out with the Dolphins, Jets,

637
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: and an average Bills teams. Albeit they have Josh Allen

638
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: and James Cook. The Bears have arguably played a much

639
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: harder schedule and compared to where the franchise has been

640
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: for years. It is such a turnaround, even the Niners

641
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: with a much tougher schedule and injuries. With a number

642
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: one seed potential, I don't think Vrabel's gonna win it.

643
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think it's I kind of feel

644
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: like it's Ben Johnson's to lose. Liam Cohen's throwing his

645
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: hat in the ring, and I think Kyle. If Kyle

646
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: were to get the number one seed, I think he

647
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: would just have to split it with somebody, you know.

648
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: Because they were the betting favorite to win the division

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Speaker 1: this year, they were one of the betting favorites in

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Speaker 1: the NFC to be in the Super Bowl. So a

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Speaker 1: lot of teams bet or I mean a lot of

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Speaker 1: people were predicting that they were gonna be good now.

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Speaker 1: Losing Fred Warner Nick Bosa was not part of that equation.

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Speaker 1: So I would have no problem if you like, if

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Speaker 1: Kyle Winsley's next to I mean you could argue, what

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Speaker 1: if Kyle beats Ben Johnson on Sunday Night, We'd be like, well,

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Speaker 1: you had two extra days rest. You know, does George

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Speaker 1: Kittle play if Kyle wins Sunday Night? I think you

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Speaker 1: could make a big case. Personally, I don't give a

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Speaker 1: shit about Coach of the Year because, let's face it,

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Speaker 1: it's just we thought you were gonna suck it.

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Speaker 2: Now you're good.

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Speaker 1: Even Ben Johnson, if they would have gotten like eight

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Speaker 1: to nine this year and shown signs, he would have.

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Speaker 2: Got a lot of credit.

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Speaker 1: But part of it is that organization was a joke.

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Speaker 1: Everything about it was pretty embarrassing, you know what he

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Speaker 1: took over. I have no problem with Ben Johnson winning it.

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Speaker 1: Rabel's done an excellent job, but let's face it, a

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Speaker 1: huge part of their success has been Drake May And.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's not like Mike's coaching them.

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Speaker 1: If the forty nine ers win their next two games

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Speaker 1: that are at home, they will get the number one

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Speaker 1: seed and a bye followed by two home games, and

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Speaker 1: then if they win the NFC Championship game.

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Speaker 2: They will host the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying the forty nine ers never have to leave.

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Speaker 1: That would be if the forty nine ers are at

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Speaker 1: Levi Stadium in early February.

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Speaker 2: It's the most incredible thing I've ever seen. It really is.

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Speaker 1: I'm not quite counting it out. I still think their

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Speaker 1: defense it's gonna be a challenge. If they win this week,

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Speaker 1: I'm convinced they could win a Super Bowl. Or when

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Speaker 1: I say win the Super they can win the NFC

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Speaker 1: then the Super Bowl one game.

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Speaker 2: Anything can happen.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, again, that lway Doc he's in Super Bowls,

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Speaker 1: he's like losing.

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Speaker 2: Forty two to ten.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't feel like we've had that many blowout Super Bowls.

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Speaker 2: I guess the Eagles Chiefs was last year.

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Speaker 1: But to me, like obviously the forty nine ers are

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Speaker 1: they could win any individual playoff game if they are

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Speaker 1: the wild card. I do foresee it being a challenge

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Speaker 1: to win three straight games with their defense. If they

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Speaker 1: win these next two games and I beat the Bears

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Speaker 1: in Seattle, then I don't see how you could say

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Speaker 1: they couldn't win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Or definitely the NFC.

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Speaker 1: On Spotify, you are wearing your hat backwards. Colin is

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Speaker 1: notorious for his hat on backwards guy takes. Is it

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Speaker 1: an inside joke between you two or just a random

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Speaker 1: picture Spotify picked. I think when we were looking for

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Speaker 1: a picture we've I think we're gonna change the logo

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Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty six. It was just like, I

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Speaker 1: don't have the many photos of me just by myself,

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Speaker 1: and that was some photo that they used. I also

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Speaker 1: am adamant about this because I do agree that when

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Speaker 1: you represent, you know, major corporations, you know how I

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Speaker 1: guess dress matters a little bit though, Like you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm from northern California. The richest people in the world

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Speaker 1: wear hoodies every day. Silicon Valley is full of people

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Speaker 1: that don't even own suits. You know. Elon must wears

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Speaker 1: a T shirt every day. Steve Jobs wore jeans every day.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: The culture on the West Coast is a little bit different.

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Speaker 1: We're a little we're a little looser than they are

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Speaker 1: in the East Coast. Like you go to New York,

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Speaker 1: like they're a little more buttoned up with their dress.

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Speaker 1: The succes quote unquote successful people. For us, it doesn't matter,

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Speaker 1: you know, the hat on backwards thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm bald. I truly we play by different rules.

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Speaker 1: If you have hair, then I judge you a little

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Speaker 1: bit differently if you want to judge someone for a

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Speaker 1: hat on backwards.

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Speaker 2: But myself being.

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Speaker 1: Bald and today I haven't shaved and it looks terrible,

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Speaker 1: I can do whatever I want. So the rules for me,

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Speaker 1: who again is a professional podcaster, I would say or

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Speaker 1: is a little bit different than like some guy running

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Speaker 1: a bank. But I'll say this guy running a bank hit.

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Speaker 1: The rules where I would disagree with Colin is like

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Speaker 1: your rules depending on what you do change. If I'm

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Speaker 1: Jamie Diamond and run Chase, yeah, I'm gonna dress a

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Speaker 1: little bit different than if I'm Mark Zuckerberg and run meta.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: I mean one, Jamie, you don't own Chase. You are

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Speaker 1: just the president of CEO, you know, picked by the board.

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Speaker 1: If I'm Mark, like I own this motherfucker, I wear

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Speaker 1: whatever I want. So it rules change for different people.

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Speaker 1: If you're a young player, you know you should be

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Speaker 1: a little more cognizant. I guess, but I also think

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Speaker 1: fashion changes. I mean look at chicks now. They're wearing

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Speaker 1: the baggy jeans, which I think is a terrible look,

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Speaker 1: but I get it, Like things EBB and flow, I

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Speaker 1: just think, like I'm a podcaster, you know, I wear

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Speaker 1: basketball shorts, tennis shoes, and hoodies most every day. And

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Speaker 1: I do believe this, Like my rules, like if you

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Speaker 1: have good hair, you know, like put a little product

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Speaker 1: in it, don't even wear at like for me, like

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Speaker 1: sometimes I gotta cover my head one the lighting starts

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Speaker 1: shining too.

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Speaker 2: I haven't shaved.

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Speaker 1: We just we got the short end of the stick

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the follicle power upstairs, and we're

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Speaker 1: a little more Our rules aren't as strict I would say.

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Speaker 1: But I just really believe, you know, in all seriousness,

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Speaker 1: they just picked the picture years ago. I don't even

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Speaker 1: think anyone even thought twice about the backward hats thing.

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Speaker 1: It turned out to be kind of ironic and funny.

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Speaker 1: But but yeah, I'll end on that, So have a

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Speaker 1: great day. The volume