WEBVTT - The Future of Work from NJIT

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<v Speaker 1>This is Bloomberg Business Week. I'm Carol Masser and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pm Eastern only on Bloomberg Radio. Yeah, we do want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about startups. We want to talk about a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things, science and innovation and entrepreneurship, all at

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<v Speaker 1>work at the New Jersey Innovation Institute and adventures link

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<v Speaker 1>here with more on the work that n j i

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<v Speaker 1>T is doing to really facilitate the startups coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of it into the real world. Dr Don Sebastian, he's

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<v Speaker 1>president of n j i T New Jersey Innovation Institute

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<v Speaker 1>and he's here with us at nj i T at

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<v Speaker 1>their Newark campus. So nice to talk with you. I

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<v Speaker 1>told you I was reading about your zation a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit last night, tell us a little bit about for

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<v Speaker 1>our audience kind of some of the work you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure so. Nji is is an unusual organization where a

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<v Speaker 1>nonprofit created under the university and and the expression of

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<v Speaker 1>the university's economic development mission, meaning what we're a tech university,

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<v Speaker 1>how do we help build a tech based economy? And

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<v Speaker 1>having spent many years at this interface between university and industry,

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<v Speaker 1>as they say in the commercial, we know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things because we've seen a lot of things. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of models that just don't work when

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<v Speaker 1>we try to graft academic research onto the needs of industry,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we've arrived at a model that really focuses

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<v Speaker 1>on how can we begin together bring together companies that

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<v Speaker 1>are birds of a feather, small companies, startups, entrepreneurs, faculty students,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the source of the innovation is in technology specific

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<v Speaker 1>clusters and help them not just grow with specialized facilities

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<v Speaker 1>and coaching, but really make early stage matches between the

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<v Speaker 1>big companies who need them now as a source of innovation.

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<v Speaker 1>We all grew up in the era of large scale

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<v Speaker 1>corporate R and D, and all the great technology we

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<v Speaker 1>know came out of Bell Labs and Sarnoff, R C

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<v Speaker 1>A Labs E C, R and D. They go through

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<v Speaker 1>the whole catalog of industry. Those enterprises have to the

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<v Speaker 1>large case atrophied or even disappeared completely. And M and

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<v Speaker 1>A has replaced R and D in many, many industrial sectors.

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<v Speaker 1>But then that's an inefficient process, you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like every tech these days can be done in the garage,

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<v Speaker 1>and you do, well, wonder what's lost in the process

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<v Speaker 1>with all of that R and D at those big

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<v Speaker 1>facilities going away. Someone's going to do it right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, And if you're depending on the small guy

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, there's only so much you can do.

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<v Speaker 1>Apps in your basement and then you can, you do

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<v Speaker 1>do some simple stuff, but when you get into nanotechnology,

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<v Speaker 1>gene splicing, you know, AI, advanced AI and robotics, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't do that as a one or two person operation

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<v Speaker 1>in a garage. Well. Well, one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>we're obviously focused on throughout the course of this entire show,

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<v Speaker 1>in our visit here is the future of work, in

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<v Speaker 1>the future of jobs, but so much of that feels

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<v Speaker 1>like from your perspective, needs to be proactive rather than reactive.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to be helping sort of create companies, but

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<v Speaker 1>also certain types of companies and cultures that that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of dictate or help sort of shape the future of work, right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And if we don't do it, guess what the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the world is organized. Right, So, whether it's China

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<v Speaker 1>Dot Com or it's the front offer models in Germany,

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<v Speaker 1>there are other places in which there are very well

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<v Speaker 1>oiled public private partnerships that try to help small, mid

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<v Speaker 1>size and merging businesses come together and ultimately connect to

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<v Speaker 1>the big O E M s and and bring products

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<v Speaker 1>to market. So for every one company that maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>next Apple that does start in the garage, they're probably

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand who have a better destiny if they were

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<v Speaker 1>to develop into some product that could be brought by

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<v Speaker 1>a larger company or be part of a supply chain done.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so much of this and startups is about

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<v Speaker 1>future growth for this country, right, And if you take it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, certainly future growth globally if you take it

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<v Speaker 1>on a mobile perspective. But I do think about so

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<v Speaker 1>where is the US when it comes to being leading

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<v Speaker 1>as startups? I mean, I think everybody for so long

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<v Speaker 1>were so jealous of Silicon Valley, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>China certainly on a mission, and there are other parts

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<v Speaker 1>of the world too, So where is the US in

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<v Speaker 1>that standard? So I just came back from a weak

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<v Speaker 1>trade mission that the state sponsored Israel startup Nation, Yeah, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he is a place from innovation size of New Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>and you look at the volume of startups to go there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think what's more important is how do we

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<v Speaker 1>get them to the next phase, right from startup into

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<v Speaker 1>something that can be functionally A startup is a business plan,

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<v Speaker 1>angel investment at least, but what about actually producing enough

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<v Speaker 1>for proof of concept? Doesn't make technical sense, but doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make dollars and sense. How do you get into that

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<v Speaker 1>pilot stage? That's the big barrier for many of these

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<v Speaker 1>small companies. If you have a thick drug, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>a new pharmaceutical, if the big company says, well, come

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<v Speaker 1>back when you've had clinical trials, we'll phase three clinical trials.

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<v Speaker 1>That could be a ten year hald and even a

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<v Speaker 1>multi billion dollar investment. Right, So what are we doing

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<v Speaker 1>about a don Yeah? Well, so in each important industrial sector,

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<v Speaker 1>we're trying to put together these expensive facilities. I use

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<v Speaker 1>cell engine for example. We've invested in creating a pilot

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturing facility as sterile manufacturing is called cGMP. We're inventors

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<v Speaker 1>of these next generation of cart and gene spicing type

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<v Speaker 1>technologies can come and create produce UH clinical trial arts.

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<v Speaker 1>Right and and at the same time the big companies

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<v Speaker 1>are coming for us. Tax is the same thing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because these are pivots. This is another important thing. Most

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<v Speaker 1>of our anchor industries are facing true disruptive technology threats

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<v Speaker 1>and either they're going to figure out how to become

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<v Speaker 1>their own disruptor or they're going to go the way

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<v Speaker 1>of the gas company. When when Edison strung up electric

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<v Speaker 1>lights just got about a minute left. So what's a

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<v Speaker 1>success story. So so this this model is emerging. I

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<v Speaker 1>think in healthcare I T space really wonderful example where

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<v Speaker 1>we begin in this transformation to digital health. About ten

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<v Speaker 1>years ago when UH the Affordable Care Act created funding

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<v Speaker 1>to create the transformation of doctors from paper to electronic

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<v Speaker 1>medical records and the technology to interconnect. In that context,

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<v Speaker 1>we transformed seven thousand physicians here in the state and

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<v Speaker 1>then went on to show she's a hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five million a year in cost savings by using that

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<v Speaker 1>technology to achieve outcomes driven healthcare delivery. Now we run

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<v Speaker 1>the state's healthcare information exchange and with that that's attracted right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the honey that attracted bears. Yeah. We brought

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of small companies who want to plug

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<v Speaker 1>into that infrastructure, and we've shown that we can then

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<v Speaker 1>do the business coaching specific to the industry that's helped

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<v Speaker 1>them grow as as small enterprises into thriving companies. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for joining us and for having

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<v Speaker 1>us here in Nework, doctor Don Sebastian, president of the

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey Innovation Institute here on the campus of n

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<v Speaker 1>j I T n j I. I think I might

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<v Speaker 1>have sent in, well, the president g I D will

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<v Speaker 1>get angry about violence they find a pink slip in

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<v Speaker 1>a novel. Thanks so much for the opportunity to talk

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<v Speaker 1>technology and innovation. Man, they're impacting just about everything in

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<v Speaker 1>our world, whether at home, at work, and at play.

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<v Speaker 1>At work is one that is garnering more attention thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of different technologies. And someone who knows

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<v Speaker 1>about that as Robert co and he's vice president of

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<v Speaker 1>Global R and D in Chief Technology Officer at Striker

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<v Speaker 1>Joint Replacement graduate of n j I t UH and

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<v Speaker 1>so we want to bring him in and talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about how innovations are changing how we work.

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<v Speaker 1>He's joining us on site here at nj I t

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<v Speaker 1>Nice to see you again. Oh thanks for having me

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<v Speaker 1>in a proud Yeah, this like old home week? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you like sort of like you know, walking through me

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<v Speaker 1>like I remember that place, picking up some T shirts

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<v Speaker 1>and sweatshirts, no comments. So I feel like there's more

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<v Speaker 1>momentum when it comes to technology innovation impacting the work

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<v Speaker 1>for his workforce. And I don't know whether it's because

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden AI is picking up some speed.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me how you see well, actually between AI, between

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<v Speaker 1>connectivity if you really look at at a division that

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<v Speaker 1>I represent, like a striker where we do total hips

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<v Speaker 1>and total needs. You know, we're trying to still to

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<v Speaker 1>improve patient outcomes, make patients return to work faster, have

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<v Speaker 1>patients leave an operating room, manage expectations, patient satisfied, remove

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<v Speaker 1>their offstere arthritis, but they get them back to a

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<v Speaker 1>normal level of functions. So innovation needs to be strong.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're living in a global world right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>that works for R and D as well. So and

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<v Speaker 1>necessary for R and D globally, like it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a global take, does it not? Oh? Absolutely? If

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the innovation across the United States, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, where you have a geography difference, you go

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<v Speaker 1>to go to where the talent is. So whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia, whether it's in Japan, whether it's in Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really the combination. And as you look for this

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<v Speaker 1>technology and you look at where the people are who

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<v Speaker 1>are smart, the universities that that dwell upon this, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to go where they are. You want to connectivity

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<v Speaker 1>and connectivity will allow a rate of innovation that incorporates

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<v Speaker 1>that technology. And so does that change not just how

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<v Speaker 1>you hire, but also once people are on board sort

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<v Speaker 1>of how they work where they are Like with play

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<v Speaker 1>play it out for us, right, So if you're to

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<v Speaker 1>go after let's say a new technology, so let's use

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<v Speaker 1>your your augmented reality example, right, artificial intelligence. There are universities,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, such as nj I T that that

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<v Speaker 1>focus on that. Now that labor force may be local

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<v Speaker 1>to that college. For me to say, hey, labor force, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a university in Germany, you come to Northern Bergen County,

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey. The likelihood of that may not be all

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<v Speaker 1>that great, But if you really think about it, why

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<v Speaker 1>can't people feel that they're all working together? Why can't

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<v Speaker 1>through video conferencing, through augmented reality, through all the computer

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<v Speaker 1>simulation and that power that can merge people together in

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<v Speaker 1>ways that never could before. Well, I think about the

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<v Speaker 1>medical community. So does that mean I mean maybe we're

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<v Speaker 1>already doing it, that you could have an expert surgeon

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia who operates robotically possibly on somebody in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, can we get you know, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it's there yet. Is that where we're going? Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the world gets there eventually, but but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we're there right now. So we're not practicing medicine.

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<v Speaker 1>So we will get more data. But the purpose right

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<v Speaker 1>now of a company like Striker to gain more data

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<v Speaker 1>is to make that surgeon smarter about that patient. The

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<v Speaker 1>more data we can help give that surgeon on that

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<v Speaker 1>individual patient that's unique to that patient, we will win.

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<v Speaker 1>But the data can come from many places. So why

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<v Speaker 1>don't we look at, say, say large medical centers that

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<v Speaker 1>are well known, and why don't we capture the way

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<v Speaker 1>they do worthpedic surgery. Why don't we learn from those surgeons,

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<v Speaker 1>their technique, their approach, where they place an implant, how

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<v Speaker 1>they do physical therapy, when their patients go back to work,

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<v Speaker 1>what's their rehab procedure. And now we could track patients

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<v Speaker 1>through artificial intelligence, through data like never before. And that

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<v Speaker 1>means the pool of patients right gets bigger, right because

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<v Speaker 1>you can share information with everybody who's doing a particular

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<v Speaker 1>procedure or dealing with a certain implant. Correct. Well, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a striker with robotic surgery if you really think

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<v Speaker 1>about it. We're sitting here now and we're analyzing CT

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<v Speaker 1>scans on last year over a hundred twenty thousand patients,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're checking checking to see what their operative condition

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<v Speaker 1>was when they returned to work, what their pharmaceutical use was,

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<v Speaker 1>very patient satisfaction. You can out pool data in massive

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<v Speaker 1>quantities that you never could before. Stratify that. So let

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<v Speaker 1>me give you an example. If you're a sixty four

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<v Speaker 1>year old woman and your b m I of thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four rheumatory darthritis, what's the best implant for you? Now

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<v Speaker 1>we can help answer that question. Should you go to

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<v Speaker 1>a hospital home from the hospital same day, or should

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<v Speaker 1>you stay in the hospital for four days? What is

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<v Speaker 1>your expectation for when you return to work? When will

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<v Speaker 1>you walk upstairs better? When we get up a car better?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so let's talk about in the minute or

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<v Speaker 1>so we have left, let's talk about the patient side

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<v Speaker 1>of this, because a lot of people listening watching, they're

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<v Speaker 1>probably your current customers or future customers. Let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is something I hang out with a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of runners, and you know we're of a certain age,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, this is the sort of thing that you

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<v Speaker 1>know is very relevant to folks going forward. Tell us

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<v Speaker 1>about the market out there right now. So the market

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<v Speaker 1>right now, the patient's expectations have changed so much in

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<v Speaker 1>the last ten years. No longer do people not want

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<v Speaker 1>to play golf. No longer do they not want to

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<v Speaker 1>walk in No longer they want to have have pain

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<v Speaker 1>and be staying home six months after surgery. They want

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to walk faster, they want to return

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<v Speaker 1>to a normal sense of quality of life. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>higher and higher expectations. Robotic assistant surgery allows us to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. But eventually we will learn in the hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>and hundreds of thousands of patients across the globe with

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<v Speaker 1>digital health and be able to look at that data

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<v Speaker 1>and make recommendations on patient care and implants like never before.

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<v Speaker 1>Customization to right, It's exciting, it's exciting stuff. Um, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much to come by you. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about like a knee replacement? Yeah, yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm looking down the road. You can have the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to keep running? All right? Robert Cohen, Chieftain, technology

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<v Speaker 1>officer of the Joint Replacement Division over at Striker And

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<v Speaker 1>as he pointed out, produm of this fine institution. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>our next guest. We love talking to him. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about science and technology, he's gotta be talking to.

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<v Speaker 1>Dean Kennedy is the founder of First for Inspiration and

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<v Speaker 1>Recognition of Science and Technology, joining us on the phone

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<v Speaker 1>from Manchester, New Hampshire. Dean, Carol and I were talking

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<v Speaker 1>before we came on about the last time you visit

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<v Speaker 1>us in New York City. You brought that amazing the

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<v Speaker 1>rugged terrain robotic wheelchair. It was so cool, so great

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<v Speaker 1>to catch up with you. It's great to be back

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<v Speaker 1>with you. And since I saw you last we delivered

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<v Speaker 1>for those machines to a couple of our a few

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<v Speaker 1>incredible Americans, including Medal of Honor recipients that left their

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<v Speaker 1>legs in places like Afghanistan and Iraq and one of

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<v Speaker 1>the early one in Vietnam, and we're changing their lives

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<v Speaker 1>and it's great. That's amazing. Congratulations. Well, we look forward

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<v Speaker 1>to catching up for you next time you're in New

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<v Speaker 1>York City. But let's talk about STEM education right now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the core of everything we're talking about. When we

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<v Speaker 1>think about the future of work, it starts with education.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us what you are working on right now in

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<v Speaker 1>that will soon sort of be making its way through

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<v Speaker 1>the educational system. So there's two paths for that. In

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<v Speaker 1>my day job, as you know, I build medical equipment.

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<v Speaker 1>And we just received, believe it or not, another grant

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<v Speaker 1>in excess of fifty million dollars from Health and Human

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<v Speaker 1>Services to accelerate the pace at which we're building the

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<v Speaker 1>core technologies to manufacture replacement human organs, which would be

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<v Speaker 1>a huge wind for patients that need chronic care like

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<v Speaker 1>dialysis because the kidneys don't work, or insulin pumps because

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<v Speaker 1>they are pancreas doesn't work, and since I do pumps

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<v Speaker 1>and dialysis machines, I can't wait to put myself out

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<v Speaker 1>of all those businesses by manufacturing the organs to replace

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<v Speaker 1>replace them. But by the way, the theme here is

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<v Speaker 1>I already have eight hundred engineers on all these projects,

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<v Speaker 1>and my little company has got a hundred open positions,

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<v Speaker 1>so as you know, everything, but my day job consumes

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<v Speaker 1>first and uh and at first, we're trying to create

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<v Speaker 1>the next generation of the workforce that will solve the

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<v Speaker 1>problems we're all worried about today. Whether it's manufacturing organs,

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<v Speaker 1>solving the healthcare system, solving the global warming issues with

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<v Speaker 1>better ways to make use, transports, store energy, you name it.

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<v Speaker 1>There are almost an unlimited number of incredibly important problems

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<v Speaker 1>that need to be solved. They all need to be

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<v Speaker 1>solved by a generation of people that have better technologies

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<v Speaker 1>than the one we're leaving them with. And the only

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<v Speaker 1>way we're going to get there is to dramatically increase

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<v Speaker 1>the number of kids that have the skill sets and

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<v Speaker 1>the ambition and the judgment and the courage to go

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<v Speaker 1>and do bold new things with technology to solve these problems.

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<v Speaker 1>I can also tell you go ahead, no no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>please finish, Please finish. I was gonna say that I

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<v Speaker 1>listened to some I must say, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>insult anybody, but some silly people that seems to think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a credible debate about whether science and technology and

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<v Speaker 1>engineering and robotics are going to eliminate jobs. I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if those people are around, you know, a hundred years

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<v Speaker 1>ago and two hundred years ago, when the steam engine

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<v Speaker 1>came around, or when the first you know, uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>know bulldoz who was built saying, oh my god, that

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<v Speaker 1>Bulldoz that can do the job of a hundred ditch diggers.

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<v Speaker 1>That machine is gonna put everybody out of work. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>actually it'll take work away from the people that are

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<v Speaker 1>doing backbreaking work now will have a limited time in

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<v Speaker 1>their life to do it. It's not a fun job.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a dangerous job at the boring job at a

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<v Speaker 1>low paying up. But the idea that the the caterpillar,

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<v Speaker 1>that the Bulldoz who would do the work of all

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<v Speaker 1>the van bag figgers, and there would there'd be no

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<v Speaker 1>work for them. No, once you raise the bar and

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<v Speaker 1>you can make that many more holes, you can move

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<v Speaker 1>that much more stuff, you just build super highways, not

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<v Speaker 1>just little houses, and every single technology ever developed creates

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<v Speaker 1>way more jobs than eliminates because it creates way more

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities for everybody to share a better standard of living.

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<v Speaker 1>Dean just got about forty seconds. We are sitting or

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<v Speaker 1>at n J I T. I'm Jason, and I are

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<v Speaker 1>in a room full of students who are studying engineering, science, technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Given that six students entering school today will work in

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<v Speaker 1>jobs that don't currently currently exist, you got forty seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your advice to these students. My advice to them

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<v Speaker 1>is to get about learning what's in the textbook today

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<v Speaker 1>about solving today's problems. By the time they graduate, those

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<v Speaker 1>problems will be solved. But don't worry. There'll be new, better,

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<v Speaker 1>more exciting problems that have more pressing needs to be solved.

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<v Speaker 1>The world is moving so quickly now that educator from

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<v Speaker 1>the has to be preparing you to learn how to

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<v Speaker 1>learn and relearn and stay current. And kids that have

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<v Speaker 1>those skill sets will never have a shortage of opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>and careers. But kids that don't learn how to learn

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<v Speaker 1>and don't learn how to embrace technology are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be under the bus on it period. Be nimble. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what's important. Dean came in. Thank you so much, founder

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<v Speaker 1>of First the Robotics competitions that he does to encourage girls,

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<v Speaker 1>boys at all ages to be involved in STEM is

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<v Speaker 1>just remarkable, really wonderful to see. You're listening to Bloomberg

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<v Speaker 1>Business Week with Carol Masser and Jason Kelly on Bloomberg Radio. Yes, indeed, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a special hour of Bloomberg Business Week in

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<v Speaker 1>the next sixty minutes live from n j i T,

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey Institute of Technology. We are also streaming on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're focusing on the future of work because there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many different things going on, and I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of folks were filled with a room of student

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<v Speaker 1>here at n j i T wondering about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what will work look like, what kind of jobs will

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<v Speaker 1>be needed? And our guests for the hour Marcus Weldon,

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<v Speaker 1>he's president of Bell Labs and corporate Chief Technology Officer

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<v Speaker 1>and Nokia. Also Virginie Mallard, who is head of Corporate

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<v Speaker 1>Technology for the US at the German engineering and manufacturing

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<v Speaker 1>giant you know them, Semens. She also heads up the

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<v Speaker 1>global research activities of Semens, Head of Technology, Field, Simulation

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<v Speaker 1>and Digital twin. I had to actually look up and

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<v Speaker 1>understand which digital twin is one of the coolest things

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<v Speaker 1>that we're going to talk about. Love love this, Love

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<v Speaker 1>this and Joe Millitichi's senior vice president of R and

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<v Speaker 1>D at Mark former senior vice president of R and

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<v Speaker 1>D at embdin. So what's really wonderful about this panel

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<v Speaker 1>up here is that they're looking at technology innovation what

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<v Speaker 1>it means for the workforce in some different perspectives. So

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<v Speaker 1>first up, what I just say, I'm also excited to

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<v Speaker 1>have all these students in the room because they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to keep us honest, Like you know, we're gonna look

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<v Speaker 1>out and see if they're paying attention or not, and

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<v Speaker 1>if it gets boring, they're gonna flag and they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>start waving their hands the more interesting and more interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Um No, it's gonna be very interesting. And I want

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<v Speaker 1>to start with I think talking about the technologies that

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<v Speaker 1>really are front and center for you and you know, Marcus,

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<v Speaker 1>let me start with you, um what are the technologies

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<v Speaker 1>that you guys are really spending a lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>on knowing that it's going to change your industry and

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<v Speaker 1>potentially change the types of jobs you're going to need

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<v Speaker 1>in the future. That's a great question. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>were in a weird business because we're in the networking business.

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<v Speaker 1>So to some extent, our job is to connect all

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<v Speaker 1>the technologies, and because of the way things become interconnected,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a role in all of them. So the

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<v Speaker 1>digital twin concept we talked about earlier, we think about

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<v Speaker 1>how to create digital twins. Why would we do that

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<v Speaker 1>because that seems like more of a semens thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>of course part of digital twinning is getting the information

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<v Speaker 1>in and out of that digital twin over a network.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the outcome of digital twin is to move

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<v Speaker 1>a robot, So we have to think about robot moving.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's all because we're sort of the fabric company,

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<v Speaker 1>if you like. I think it's very new Jersey to

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<v Speaker 1>be in fabrics. But with the networking, we're the networking fabric.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's five G. You've had a lot about five

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<v Speaker 1>G from everyone. The current waiting, we're waiting waiting waiting,

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<v Speaker 1>not waiting as long as if as when it was

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<v Speaker 1>LTU because it's faster download speeds. That's my that's my

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<v Speaker 1>five G joke. But the effect, but no, the next

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<v Speaker 1>version of five G is all about industrials. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that people don't realize is five G today

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<v Speaker 1>is about faster consumer. But the next version has lots

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<v Speaker 1>of features built in for industrials, so it becomes the

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<v Speaker 1>fabric of industrials, which then allows you to digital twin

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<v Speaker 1>and control robots and and control things remotely and do

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<v Speaker 1>remote teaching and and and instruction and all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>interesting things. For us, we see ourselves as building fabric

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<v Speaker 1>technologies connect to all the other technologies. So we are

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<v Speaker 1>thinking robotics, we are thinking AI, we do think five G.

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<v Speaker 1>We think all sorts of interesting thoughts and invent at

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<v Speaker 1>bell Lapps. All right, So one of the other things

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey is known for is the pharmacy lital business.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to get to that in just a second,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't want to get too far from this

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<v Speaker 1>concept of digital digital twins. This is probably something that

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<v Speaker 1>the students are like, yeah, we know what that is,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know as much as do you know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is? Educating here? All right, tell us what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. I don't know why. I was pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>you will ask the question. She's ready. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>short version, very simple is the digital twin is a

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<v Speaker 1>virtual replica of a of a physical phenomena or physical

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<v Speaker 1>set of machine or process. That is a very simple definition.

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<v Speaker 1>Now beyond of that physically is to connect the physics

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<v Speaker 1>to to the to the simulation and to interact each other.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, with a model, you can predict and you

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<v Speaker 1>can simulate, and you can send this information to the

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<v Speaker 1>machine and the machine can collect some data for example

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<v Speaker 1>with sen source right and saying this information to the simulation,

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<v Speaker 1>and the full concept all similar. They're telling me, put

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<v Speaker 1>put the machine. Consider to your mouth. So I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be I'm going to be not quite that digital twin,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to move in it because we want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear what you're saying. Go ahead. So, as a

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<v Speaker 1>as a conclusion, that digital twin is the full concept

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<v Speaker 1>of physical set the machine, for example, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>a virtual replica the model or the simulation associated to

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<v Speaker 1>the machine, and they interact each other, sending for example,

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<v Speaker 1>predicted data to the machine and machine sending a measured

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<v Speaker 1>data to the simulation. But Virginia, I have to say,

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<v Speaker 1>my version of digital twin is of the entire physical world. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you would see your world like a game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you think of it as a massive game

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<v Speaker 1>world that you enter, but it's actually your physical world,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can explore it and you can ask questions

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<v Speaker 1>of it because it has all the answers, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you can experiment with what if right, because you can

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<v Speaker 1>ask the digital twin to simulate a scenario. Which is

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<v Speaker 1>why Siemens and others you know, really like this is

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<v Speaker 1>you can explore conditions that otherwise we destroy the physical thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you can do very interesting things. But for

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<v Speaker 1>the students here, it's sort of like a big game

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<v Speaker 1>but of the real world. That's I think how I

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<v Speaker 1>think of the twins. So what is interesting in in

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<v Speaker 1>Sements it is, you know, it's a old company of

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<v Speaker 1>one android seventy plus. Your old company well well known

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<v Speaker 1>in industrial manufacturing and more recently is also a big

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<v Speaker 1>player in a software UH provider. And that's why what

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting in Sements. We have this knowledge of manufacturing

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<v Speaker 1>and the machines and process and we have also the

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<v Speaker 1>simulation and the software right availabel, and now we are

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<v Speaker 1>able to connect and to combine the two physical and

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<v Speaker 1>virtual world to to propose a new tools. You are

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<v Speaker 1>listening to Bloomberg Business Week at special edition here live

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<v Speaker 1>in Newark at n J. I T I want to

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<v Speaker 1>jump right back in with Joe Militich. He's over at

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<v Speaker 1>Murk relatively new job. I think, for you, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>coolest technology you're looking at right now? There are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of them, so that it is a hard choice,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'll but I'll give you one. So the Nobel

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<v Speaker 1>Prize was given for chemistry and for bio catalysis, which

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<v Speaker 1>is so okay. So first of all, um, when we

0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:30.480
<v Speaker 1>we look for we look for ways that you can

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<v Speaker 1>modulate human disease with with drugs, with new medicines. A

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:37.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of times are chemicals. They're made synthetically. But the

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 1>more complex molecule we want to make, the harder it

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:44.640
<v Speaker 1>is to put together, because most chemistry actually can make

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<v Speaker 1>two or three different kinds of the same molecule and

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<v Speaker 1>then you have to sort them all out at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a big purification process. But but inside the human body,

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<v Speaker 1>inside all living things, we have enzymes, catalysts. These are

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<v Speaker 1>proteins mostly a few exceptions, but mostly proteins that actually

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<v Speaker 1>bring things together and then make the thing you want

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<v Speaker 1>out of them. And they do it with very little waste,

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 1>and they do it at high efficiency, and they're catalytic.

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<v Speaker 1>They do it over and over it again. So what

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:15.400
<v Speaker 1>we've been able to do recently is make much more

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<v Speaker 1>complicated chemical structures but use bio catalysis. We've been able

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<v Speaker 1>to invent enzymes that never existed before because of a

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<v Speaker 1>convergence of many technologies that make it possible for us

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<v Speaker 1>to actually start with a certain kind of enzyme and

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<v Speaker 1>change it into something we wanted to do specifically for

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<v Speaker 1>a specific reaction. It's amazing. So twenty seconds. So what

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean in terms of our world. It means

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<v Speaker 1>that we can invent better medicines faster, and we can

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<v Speaker 1>make them cheaper, and we can make them greener with

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<v Speaker 1>very little waste, very little, very little impact on the environment.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's very important, and I was thinking a win

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<v Speaker 1>win on so many different levels right everywhere. To see that,

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<v Speaker 1>you are listening to a special edition of Bloomberg Business

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<v Speaker 1>Week Live from nj I T here in Newark. We're

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<v Speaker 1>having a conversation about the future of work, and part

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<v Speaker 1>of understanding the future of work is understanding where science

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<v Speaker 1>is going, what the jobs are going to be, and

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<v Speaker 1>what the aspirations are for this next generation of technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Militage, I want to put this question to you.

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<v Speaker 1>You have the senior VP over at R and of

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 1>R and d over Mark uh local company, and I

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<v Speaker 1>do wonder what's going on in the world in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of disease biology. We're talking about this during a break

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm so intrigued by what that actually means. So

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<v Speaker 1>I've been a student of human disease biology from my

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<v Speaker 1>whole career, and the essential problem we have is we

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<v Speaker 1>want to understand what goes wrong when people develop a disease,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we want to figure out something we can

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<v Speaker 1>do to modulate that, some medicine or some vaccine we

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<v Speaker 1>can give that will modulate the human disease. But the

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<v Speaker 1>problem is we don't know as much as we would

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<v Speaker 1>like to know. I can tell you during my career

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<v Speaker 1>we know three order of magnitude more about human biology

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<v Speaker 1>than we did at the start. And it's not even

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<v Speaker 1>a tenth of a tenth of a tenth of a

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<v Speaker 1>percent of enough. We're incredible that old. Uh, You're right,

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:12.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. You're only as old as you feel, so

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not old at all. Um. But what here's here's

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>the exciting part. The the exciting part is because of

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 1>a convergence of many different things, we can now it's

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<v Speaker 1>now possible to study human disease biology with a resolution

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<v Speaker 1>and with a continuity that's never before been imaginable. Now

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 1>we haven't cashed in on it yet, but you can

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 1>feel it coming. So think about it. In the past,

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<v Speaker 1>if we want to know something about a human disease,

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<v Speaker 1>we relied on a patient going to a health care

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<v Speaker 1>provider and telling them once a month or once a

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>week about Now you can know everything continuously. If you

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>do it ethically and if you do it in a

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 1>in an informed way, you can understand not what a

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<v Speaker 1>disease looks like at a doctor's visit every few weeks

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>or months, you can understand it what's going on, can

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<v Speaker 1>genuously what the patterns look like. If you want to

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 1>actually take a sample from a patient with consent, of course,

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>and if you want to analyze it, you can analyze

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 1>it with a depth of resolution, down to finding out

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 1>what's going on in single cells inside each tissue. You

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<v Speaker 1>can understand it with a depth and complexity that was

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<v Speaker 1>never imaginable, even just even just a decade ago. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to think this is something you're seeing Virgin that

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<v Speaker 1>you know because of the the equipment and and all

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<v Speaker 1>the research that you guys are doing. I can't tell

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<v Speaker 1>exactly the same story. But in the factory, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>the robots and the artificial intelligence are bringing to us

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<v Speaker 1>more safety, safety environment, are your quality maybe sometime quick

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>quick execution of the task. And at the same time

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>the human will be dedicated to elevated the task. They

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<v Speaker 1>will be maybe in charge of the logistic programming the robots.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why the segmentation of the task in factor will

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 1>will be different in the future. But definitely the robots

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and the AI are going to bring us higher quality

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and at the same time giving the human the possibility

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<v Speaker 1>to have elevated roles. Well, this is what's interesting, and Marcus,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to come in on this because I

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like we've written about this a lot in Business

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Week magazine, this whole idea of it's not robots taking

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 1>over for humans, but you're going to see man and

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<v Speaker 1>machine kind of working much more closely than ever before.

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<v Speaker 1>Well said, that was actually my punchline. Sorry touched that collaboration. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's a what we look at this a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of you of the future of work is it's man

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<v Speaker 1>and machine, a woman and machine in perfect harmony, and

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<v Speaker 1>digital twining is a way to create a harmony between

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<v Speaker 1>them because think of it, the machine, the software system

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>or the AI system has a view of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>The human has the same view of the world, and

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>they can interact in that world. That's the point of

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 1>a digital t when they can sort of experiment and

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>interact with each other. So that perfect harmony does a

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 1>bunch of really interesting things. It increases productivity because if

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>you think about what our problem is today, and we've

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 1>eventuled these great technologies, but to some extent, they distract

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 1>us more than they help us. Meaning what we are

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 1>deluged by data that you don't know what to do with,

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<v Speaker 1>or social media or reality TV not Bloomberg. That's that's credible, positive,

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>high quality and just life enhancing. There's a lot of

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 1>static out there, static and the static actually we don't

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 1>we're not equipped as humans to deal with. So you

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>can think of the role of the machines is actually

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>to help us, you know, wade through that static and

0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 1>that morass of data to create knowledge and understanding that

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>we use to perform tasks more efficiently. And the key

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 1>is we perform the task because humans are actually incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>well adapted for physical world tasks. We have lived in

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<v Speaker 1>the physical world. We know how it works, We know

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<v Speaker 1>how to manipulate things much better machines. For all the

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>very clever robots you see out there on YouTube, they

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>have been highly optimized to do humanlike things, but the

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>human was already doing that thing. So our view is

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<v Speaker 1>that it's about augmenting humans. And you can think of

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<v Speaker 1>a robot that you can control is your extension AI system,

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 1>is your extension of your brain. All those things allow

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<v Speaker 1>us to be better versions of ourselves that will actually

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<v Speaker 1>work fewer hours but more productively, and normally, more productively

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 1>means higher wages. Oddly enough, so a fewer hours, higher

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 1>wages means more leisure time. Leisure time you tend to

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<v Speaker 1>do things that are cognitive and cause growth, and that

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>makes you a better worker. So we've got this very

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 1>positive feedback loop we see of humans when they're augmented

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>actually work more productively in similar jobs that have been

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<v Speaker 1>adapted by a roll of machine takes well and Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we do get this sense and we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>um you know with the series Executive and Striker earlier. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this notion that machines can also you know, prevent humans

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 1>from making misstakes. Absolutely, so we can if it just

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 1>got about thirty seconds. Okay, if you look at the

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 1>pharmaceutical industry, we need our factories to be more modern

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>than they Yeah, and that's eminently possible now for all

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the reasons that have been described and more. There's a

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 1>convergence of all the things we've learned about what we

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>want to control, that we can make things tenser, safer, smaller,

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>more productive, more unit productivity for time. All Right, you

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 1>guys are gonna stick with us? Yes, I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>at definitely. I think human and machines collaborating each other

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 1>and the complimenting each other. You're listening to Bloomberg Business

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Week Karl Master along with Jason Kelly. We're live in

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<v Speaker 1>front of a room full of students here at n

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<v Speaker 1>j I T at their campus in Newark, New Jersey.

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 1>We have a great panel. Marcus Weldon is President of

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Bell Labs, corporate chief Technology officer at Nokia. Virginie my

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<v Speaker 1>Art she has head of Corporate Technology for the US

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<v Speaker 1>at Semens, and then we have Joe Military Chief Senior

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 1>vice president of R and D at MURK. So here

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about some of the different technologies, whether

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 1>it's five G, whether it's AI, digital twins, UM. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>what does that mean for the type of workers that

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:15.320
<v Speaker 1>are going to be needed in the future. So Marcus,

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<v Speaker 1>let me start with you. What do you what do

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 1>you look for when you want to hire somebody? Super

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:23.440
<v Speaker 1>smart people? Uh so n G I T grants you

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:27.800
<v Speaker 1>qualify that. What we actually look for is UM people

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:32.320
<v Speaker 1>are willing to adapt to changing realities. So one of

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>the things we really think is that the role of

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 1>digital twins and augmentation and intelligent assistants will be to

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 1>help you do whatever it is you do better. But

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 1>therefore you will be expected to do more things. So

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 1>instead of getting an education that is linear like I did,

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 1>and then I go and do a job and I

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:53.360
<v Speaker 1>do that job forever, I think you'll be expected to

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<v Speaker 1>be adaptive, maybe on a weekly or maybe even daily basis,

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:01.360
<v Speaker 1>because you'll be augmented with the task will be taught

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:04.319
<v Speaker 1>to you or sort of on the fly, either because

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 1>you put a headset on or somewhere you're augmented and

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 1>you'll be able to do many more things because you'll

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>learn those things on the fly with the information you need,

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 1>rather having to be pre trained on that thing. So

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to sort of be agile and adapted.

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<v Speaker 1>But that sounds like an awful lot of fun. As

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Joe said that, my job will be to be adapted

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 1>to any changing reality and I'll be well paid for that. Yes,

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, Yes, incments. We are looking also for smart people.

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>But we also believe in the diversity of people. Could

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 1>you just stand up. I just want to know who

0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 1>that is. Just believe it. In the diversity of education. Yes,

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 1>we believe that in different paths of education for example

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 1>apprenticeship or community college, or also people coming back to

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>education after having another experience in their life, and it

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:03.879
<v Speaker 1>could they could bring to us and experience we need.

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<v Speaker 1>In very good point, I love this idea of diversity,

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:09.800
<v Speaker 1>and you know, until come on in on this, because

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<v Speaker 1>I do think we increasingly understand that a company performs

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<v Speaker 1>better when their boards are diversified, their senior talent and

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<v Speaker 1>really all along in terms of their workforce. So tell

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>me how that is important to you, guys, and what

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 1>else you're looking for. So I'll just echo the sentiments

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:27.440
<v Speaker 1>on diversity. But what I think I'd really like to

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 1>reinforce is the comment about the fact that we can't

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:32.879
<v Speaker 1>think of education the same way. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>continuous and forever, so you can't. We have lots of

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<v Speaker 1>different skill sets we depend on to discover and invent

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 1>and develop a new drug and get it to market.

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 1>They used to be in silos. You just you'd be

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:48.840
<v Speaker 1>a specialist you'd get good at So you need a

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 1>hundred different specialties. We still need those, We still need

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>that depth of expertise, but we also have to have

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 1>people who can understand across the whole spectrum and integrate it,

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 1>because if you don't integrate it, you don't see the

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:05.240
<v Speaker 1>opportunities when convergence if possible. I agree that you really

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 1>have to really really push on that, and that's where

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 1>diversity comes in for us exactly. It's a spectrum function.

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 1>The more spectrum of disciplines and genders and nationalities and

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:20.360
<v Speaker 1>cultures and educational backgrounds, broader spectrum to look at the problem,

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>all equally able to sort of solve it because they

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:24.799
<v Speaker 1>helped in the way they need to be helped. It's

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:27.759
<v Speaker 1>diversity sort of happens as a catalyst for all of this,

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I think, I think it's really good. And the thing

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 1>that I think is the most important thing is just

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:37.280
<v Speaker 1>being intellectually curious, relentlessly curious about how everything works, everything

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 1>that's everything that could touch what you tell. I would

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:41.120
<v Speaker 1>say that about journalism. I think it's just you have

0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:43.480
<v Speaker 1>to be curious about the world and stuff. Go ahead, Yes,

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>intimates where we believe in the in the education program

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 1>for our workforce in the US, we have a fifties

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 1>thousand US employees and we spend fifty million every year

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 1>to in education program to train them and to to

0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 1>reskill them in the new technologies. This has been and

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 1>that's interesting to go ahead, No, but I think there's

0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 1>been a debate about what's the corporate responsibility and re

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:10.480
<v Speaker 1>educating the workforce to make sure that they have the workers.

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 1>And it sounds like obviously semens as being important. Yeah,

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>we do too. But I think in the for the

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:17.799
<v Speaker 1>students in the room, what I would say is they

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 1>will be live trained. And that's what's the really interesting change.

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Because today you have to take courses in a rather

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 1>formalized way, even though their online, there's still sort of courses,

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:30.040
<v Speaker 1>But what if I could learn the task minutes before

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I have to perform it? So I think that's the

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 1>really interesting change in the future, and it will be

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 1>perfect knowledge, not the noise we were talking about. I mean,

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I do wonder about in thirty seconds sort of the

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:42.800
<v Speaker 1>delivery system to some extent of education. Right, Well, certainly

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>it needs to be real world in real time. But

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 1>there's another big component we need, and that's that there's

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:52.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of challenge. So we look at data sets

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 1>that are as diverse as you can possibly imagine, and

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 1>they're not in common formats. So we need a We

0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:00.359
<v Speaker 1>need a whole coundry of data scientists too, who can

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 1>work with biologists and worth chemists and with you know,

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 1>microbiologists with toxic common language, you know. But but they

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 1>have to be able to actually get to the data

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 1>because putting it in a data lake isn't good enough.

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 1>We are here at n j I T. Marcus Weldon,

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Virginie Maard and Joe Militage still with us, and I

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:23.439
<v Speaker 1>want to quickly pick up on this theme of sort

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:26.840
<v Speaker 1>of diversity of thought. But how you get there, Joe, Like,

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:29.200
<v Speaker 1>how do you institute that sort of thing or how

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:31.840
<v Speaker 1>do you train people to to think like that? I

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:33.920
<v Speaker 1>think you have to create the right environment, the right

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>work environment. It involves everything from facilities, to who you hire,

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:41.840
<v Speaker 1>to what you make accessible. But you know it's working

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 1>when people are so excited because they're learning new things

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 1>and they feel that they're going to have an impact,

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:51.319
<v Speaker 1>you know you've got it. And and it's it's not

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 1>it's not something you can necessarily make perfectly formulaic. But

0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 1>when people are learning, they tell you. When people stop

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>stop tell telling you that they're working long hours, and

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:03.960
<v Speaker 1>they tell you that they can't wait to get to work.

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 1>That's when you know you have to have that kind

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 1>of a learning environment all the time. So how do

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:12.880
<v Speaker 1>you institute At semens, we we strongly believe that the

0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:18.200
<v Speaker 1>diversity brings value to the company. It's about the competitivity.

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:21.759
<v Speaker 1>If you play a soccer game with five players, you

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 1>have less chances than with eleven players. That's why we

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 1>have to include all the people out of the game

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:32.799
<v Speaker 1>today and to propot them some education program to join

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:36.359
<v Speaker 1>us and to bring the experience the background right. And

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 1>it's it's about the diversity or so of the mindset.

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 1>And Marcus just thirty seconds here we are completely background

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:47.840
<v Speaker 1>blind oddly enough, meaning it really is if if you

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:50.360
<v Speaker 1>have the enthusiasm, the curiosity like you take care of

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:55.960
<v Speaker 1>UH and UH, a thirst for new knowledge, the rest

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 1>just happens, right because it's like you said, visionally, we

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 1>look at the largest population people who fit that criteria,

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:04.799
<v Speaker 1>and that naturally is everyone. So we never limited by

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:08.759
<v Speaker 1>any category. UH, it's all categories in to be the

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 1>most sort of thriving population. You are listening to Bloomberg

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 1>this week live from m j I T. It's a

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:17.399
<v Speaker 1>special edition. We're focusing on the future of work. Our

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 1>guest Joe Militich. He has senior vice president of R

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 1>and D at Mark Virginny Major. She is the head

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:26.680
<v Speaker 1>of Corporate Technology for the US at Siemens and Marcus Wilton,

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:29.800
<v Speaker 1>President Bell Labs in corporate Chief Technology Officer at Nokia.

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 1>We had a great question from the audience here, one

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:36.279
<v Speaker 1>of the students posing this to to the panel. We

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.359
<v Speaker 1>talk a lot about AI and automation. We talk a

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 1>lot about sort of being intellectually curious, but we do worry.

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I think we should worry about those who are left

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 1>behind to some extent, who might not have the capability

0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 1>of the opportunity to play at that at that higher level.

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:57.840
<v Speaker 1>What do you make of that, Virginia. I like this

0:41:57.960 --> 0:42:00.839
<v Speaker 1>question because it makes me the opportunity to to tell

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:06.400
<v Speaker 1>you that sometimes you can overcome this uh this point,

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:10.440
<v Speaker 1>we have, for example, instruments low code platform called a

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Mendis were quite or two years ago, and this platform

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 1>allow you to create apps without knowing how to code it.

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:20.799
<v Speaker 1>It's you have just to know maybe how to solve

0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:23.759
<v Speaker 1>a problem, how to have a common sense, and then

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the platform is coding for you and create the app

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 1>for you. And this is an example of how we

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 1>can interiorate this kind of workforce breaking to us an

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:38.400
<v Speaker 1>experience from the from the shop floor with a with

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>a good technical knowledge without knowing how to code. We

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 1>like this Coostin. I think the excellent question because actually

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:50.120
<v Speaker 1>one of the great equalizers of AI and augmentation is

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 1>it augments the people who know less, perhaps more than

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:56.840
<v Speaker 1>augments the people who know more. So it's actually meant

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 1>to level the playing field so everyone can do their

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:01.880
<v Speaker 1>task whatever it is better. And in fact the toss

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:05.279
<v Speaker 1>the hardest to replicate with a machine of physical toss.

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 1>So I would argue What it does is in the future,

0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 1>physical task performance will be more human augmented with an

0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:13.719
<v Speaker 1>assistant that tells you what you need to know. Even

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 1>if you didn't know the math or the engineering, it'll

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 1>be telling you how to do it in a way

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:19.840
<v Speaker 1>that helps you. You may have had the form of education,

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:21.800
<v Speaker 1>so I think it's a it's a really bright future

0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:24.840
<v Speaker 1>for leveling things. Well, does it also mean then going forward,

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:27.319
<v Speaker 1>that you don't have to know so much math, are

0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:29.719
<v Speaker 1>so much science going forward? That would be a huge

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 1>rely for me. But I do wonder about that. So

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it will augmented because because whatever level you

0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:39.480
<v Speaker 1>start at, you can get ten times better in a

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:42.800
<v Speaker 1>much shorter period of time. And there's almost no limit

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:45.279
<v Speaker 1>of questions that I can think to ask. So I

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 1>don't see the future getting limited. The only thing is

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:50.359
<v Speaker 1>going to limit us is whether or not we can

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:53.880
<v Speaker 1>sustated economically at all. That But it's not actually a

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:58.759
<v Speaker 1>technical or a scientific limitation anymore. The future is unbounded.

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean why everywhere? What also a level? If you

0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:03.880
<v Speaker 1>level an bounded which is sort of really interesting. Well,

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:05.720
<v Speaker 1>and I just think about something as silly as Siri

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 1>or some of the go home devices, right, that you

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:09.799
<v Speaker 1>can ask so much information because there's so much data

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:12.319
<v Speaker 1>fed into it. Think about, you know, how much you

0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 1>can know automatically and what you can do with it.

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Remember we had to look stuff up in books, remember encyclopedias,

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:24.080
<v Speaker 1>to a library, go to a library, or pick up

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:26.239
<v Speaker 1>a phone or something like that. All right, So in

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:28.279
<v Speaker 1>a few minutes that we have left, you know, we

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 1>also want to talk about especially since we're at the

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 1>top university that's obviously thinking very aggressively and ambitiously, and

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:39.279
<v Speaker 1>yet we have an educational system that maybe might be

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:42.879
<v Speaker 1>a little sclerotic, as they say, and not so quick

0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:45.360
<v Speaker 1>to change. What's the piece of advice that you guys

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 1>would give to universities or higher education institutions out there?

0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 1>And I think that and the great question was how

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 1>can industry and education partner to create these lifelong partnerships

0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 1>that are going to be needed in terms of education.

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:02.120
<v Speaker 1>It's a great to question. I think we saw Dr

0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:04.479
<v Speaker 1>Bloom earlier saying a lot of really good things about

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:08.279
<v Speaker 1>maker spaces and makerspaces in generally will be involving types

0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 1>of equipment industrials will be using. So I think collaborations

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:13.960
<v Speaker 1>between places of ng I t and industry are more

0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:17.759
<v Speaker 1>naturally happening because the types of equipment used to be

0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:21.080
<v Speaker 1>massive and industrial. Now you can because of course More's law,

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:22.800
<v Speaker 1>you can now get in a small form factor. You

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 1>can have an university, and then it's just a case

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 1>of coupling the two by some programs. We have summer internships.

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:29.799
<v Speaker 1>We hire a lot of graduates from the New Jersey area,

0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:32.480
<v Speaker 1>but they've been working on systems and machines and tools

0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 1>that we would also use. But do you see sort

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:37.799
<v Speaker 1>of institutions sort of separating a little bit in the

0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 1>sense that like, if you can't keep up, if you

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:43.440
<v Speaker 1>can't be as progressive, maybe you're not gonna exist. But

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 1>but I think the most important thing is to teach

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 1>students how to ask questions. Yeah, that's the most important thing.

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:51.799
<v Speaker 1>How to problem solve, What are the right questions to ask?

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:54.760
<v Speaker 1>How do you actually delve in and to and really

0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 1>to actually gain enough confidence doing that so that you're

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:01.640
<v Speaker 1>not afraid and so that it doesn't seem intimidating, because

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 1>the tools will be there to get whatever information whatever

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:07.719
<v Speaker 1>is possible. And then when you don't find the information right,

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:09.920
<v Speaker 1>you know what you want to work on because that's

0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:11.960
<v Speaker 1>where you've got to add value to the system. Ask

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the question, keep asking, you get the answer exactly. And

0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:17.800
<v Speaker 1>so I think the major job of universities is actually

0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:20.839
<v Speaker 1>teaching people that you can be curious, now much more

0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:23.279
<v Speaker 1>curious than you ever could fairy well, but maybe we've

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:26.799
<v Speaker 1>been a bit linear book knowledge. But we have to

0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 1>turn knowledge into curiosity again. I think I think that

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 1>the partnership between universities and companies are very important because

0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 1>we've benefited each other from the academic knowledge, of course,

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:39.600
<v Speaker 1>but the company can bring to the to the college

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and high school also kind of understanding of what we need.

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 1>And for example, sements provide us some software to the

0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:52.799
<v Speaker 1>high school to teach the kids right and to and

0:46:52.960 --> 0:46:55.920
<v Speaker 1>to show them what they can do with the software

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:59.319
<v Speaker 1>and how to design the parts. And we provide also

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:02.879
<v Speaker 1>some equipment right. And that's what's interesting. You're finding it's

0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 1>starting at younger and younger ages that you want to

0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:07.840
<v Speaker 1>get into UM education and certainly have an impact. Folks,

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:09.960
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. I mean, we certainly could have

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:12.920
<v Speaker 1>continued for a much much much longer time. So I

0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:15.320
<v Speaker 1>just want to thank our guests here on the panel.

0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Marcus Weldon, President of Bell Labs, Corporate Chief Technology Officer

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:21.600
<v Speaker 1>at Nokia, Virginie my Yard, head of Corporate Tech over

0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:24.799
<v Speaker 1>for the US at Siemens, and then Joe Millitan, she's

0:47:24.840 --> 0:47:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Senior VP of R and D at Mark. So thank

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:28.600
<v Speaker 1>you both so much, and thank you to our audience

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:31.600
<v Speaker 1>as well. Really appreciate it. Thanks for listening to Bloomberg

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