1 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the League podcast. 2 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Kansas. Room full of heroes. Here 3 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: Chris Wessling, Mark Sessler, and Greg Rosenthal our boss. Hey guys, 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: how are you today? Is this the first time all 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: four of us and only the four of us have 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: been in for one of these podcasts? You might be right. 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: This might we We always bring up when we have 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: these new permutations, but this might be the last one 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: that we had not conquered and now we have. We 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: had patrol with us that one of the time we 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: were in the same room. I believe that's right. So, 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: as many of you now know, we are on iTunes, 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: we are also on Stitcher. I don't know what stitcher is, 14 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: but it is something that exists in society that people 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: used to listen to things like this. So we're there. 16 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: Um download our podcast Radar podcast on on iTunes, Give 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: us love, uh and we will continue to provide high 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: level content and thank you. By the way. We could 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: mentioned this on Monday, but we're trouncing rich Eyes and 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: and damn a check and just taking names here in 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: these podcasts rankings in terms of the downloads, A lot 22 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: of new subscribers, and we appreciate all the love I do. 23 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: Like you mentioned that we're trouncing rich Eyes and two 24 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: days after he was nice enough to come on our podcast. 25 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: Might not be true either, but we're doing We're happy 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: that some people are listening, so we thank you. Yeah, 27 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: we are. We're doing very well. West. You've been tracking 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: the metrics very closely on our downloads. I know that 29 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: many emails you've been sending out. It seems like we're 30 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: doing well. We're top five, that's all. And we're big 31 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: in England, which we have been big in England all along. Right, Yeah, 32 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: thank you to our Canadian listeners, Germany another country that 33 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: likes to think, but they are. And then of course 34 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: and our great Australian listeners, including uh, the Great Tristan, 35 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: the Great Tristan. Thank you, Mark. Just trying to work 36 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: you in there, Mark awkward a little bit of a 37 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: late jump in there, No problem. So okay, So we 38 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: have a lot to get to. We should start since 39 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: it is Wednesday, we're coming off another great episode of 40 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks on HBO. UM. This this episode is you know, 41 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: we have our our recaps on around the League that 42 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: I write. Um, I invited Mark Sessler to hands this 43 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: manner to watch this one because Mark doesn't have cable 44 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: for some reason. Thanks for the invite, Dan, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 45 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: that's a little rough. Clicky. Wait a second, Mark and 46 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: I discuss this. I can turn it into a big 47 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: party if you guys want. But this particular night, it 48 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: was just Mark and I under a blanket, big bull 49 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: of popcorn, just really digging in and enjoying with the 50 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: lights turned down low. My wife came upstairs and she 51 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: thought excused herself and this one straight to the bedroom. 52 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: But okay, Greg, what is your you watch Hard Knocks 53 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: last night? You always do? I know. What are your 54 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: takeaways from episode two? Well? I could go list many, 55 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: but my first one has to be Hugh Jackson's humiliating 56 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: dressed down of Orson Charles really stuck out to me 57 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: just how brutal it was, and that at the end 58 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: of basically telling the guy that he's about to get demoted, 59 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: he doesn't even look at him in the face. He's 60 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: just texting, never says bye either, just starts texting mid 61 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: sentence until Charles like should I leave now? And yeah, 62 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: I wrote in the recap that you you just had 63 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: the feeling you knew or some Charles was thinking to 64 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: himself as he was walking out, Please don't tell me 65 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: there was a camera that just caught just caught my 66 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: just complete, complete, uh humiliation in front of the nation's 67 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: premium cable subscribers. I mean I also was taken with 68 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: John Skelton, like you don't know these guys when you're 69 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: watching um, you know, the games or anything, and sometimes 70 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: little facts about how their career has gone or slowly 71 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: filled in. I was talking about this life like you 72 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: don't know, like which quarterbacks might be the sharpest tools 73 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: in the shed, and which ones worked the hardest and stuff. 74 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: And sometimes I'll just say with Skelton, you know, it 75 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: didn't seem like a MENSA member there. Yeah, they lifted 76 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: the veil on skeleton a little bit. Fordham is a 77 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: pretty good school in the Bronx it intended. But I 78 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: felt like, okay, that's now we understand the what is 79 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: John Skelton? Yeah, my I think my favorite guy and 80 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: you know Dan and I Dan has Dan's writing an 81 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: article on this each week, so we had to keep rewinding, 82 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: uh you know, transcribing quotes. But I actually enjoyed by 83 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: the way listen it was that or you know, sit 84 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: in my car. But I enjoyed watching the Marcus Hunt. Okay, 85 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: you had a couple of great scenes. If if Hard 86 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: Knocks had a star of each episode, he would be 87 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: on the marquee. I would agree. I mean the guy 88 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: at number one. I don't know should we do? We 89 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,679 Speaker 1: have something we want to do, Crystal behind the glass? 90 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: Can you queue up Marcus Hunt in the middle of 91 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: a practice drill with Gino Atkins? Why talking was the 92 00:04:55,080 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: one with the Russian? I don't know what Rooky four 93 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: is that one? Because everyone keeps talking about that. I 94 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: must break you. That's awesome. The thing that's funny to 95 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: me too, is so he gets the the are you Russian? 96 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: Ivan Darrago treatment, but then several of his teammates seem 97 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: to think he's English as well. At one point, someone asks, 98 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: why do you say across the pond? It's like as Estonian? 99 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: And I don't have a lot of experience with Estonian 100 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: culture either, but I wouldn't think he looks very English 101 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: when he has an American accent for the most part. 102 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: Two it's sort of a puzzling character. And they also 103 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: asked him if other women in Estonia look like him, 104 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: which is kind of I imagine. I mean, his girlfriend, 105 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, was good looking at everything, but they were 106 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: walking off the field and I noticed she's almost his height. 107 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: He's like six eight. So are all the women in 108 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: Estonia just just like gigantic people that throw the discus? Yeah? 109 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: His girlfriends America? Yeah, well yeah, I think. And you 110 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: have to give him credit. He has like this combination 111 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: of confidence and aloofness that allows him to deal with 112 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: because he does get ribbed a lot in this episode, 113 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: and it's clear that the players target him a little 114 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: bit the fact that he's a rookie A and then 115 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: different than them B, which is probably pretty normal in 116 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: the locker room. But he handles He handles it all 117 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: very well. He could tell, you know. Mike Brown says 118 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: at one point he's a little worried that he won't 119 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: be able to make friends because he's so different. But 120 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: he doesn't seem like the type of guy that's going 121 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: to become some type of recluse in the locker room 122 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: because he gets picked on. No, and like even at 123 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: one point, uh it was a defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer 124 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: comes up and is quizzing him about again, where is 125 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: he from and what kind of language does he speak? 126 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: And he's describing to Mike Zimmer that like most people 127 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: in Estonia speak either for like a form of finish 128 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: or some form of Estonian blah blah blah. You find 129 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 1: out later the Zimmer is just trying to buy time 130 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: because the girlfriend arriving was a surprise. But Hunt gets 131 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: into this whole side dialogue about how you can download 132 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: this finish Estonian app and Zimmer's trying to play along 133 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: with it. But I actually looked it up and you can, 134 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: and I downloaded it last night on my phone. Did 135 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: you Yeah? Was it helpful to you at all? It's 136 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: not been helpful. You have like an Estonian babysitter or something. No, 137 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: it's not been helpful yet. But that's pretty funny. The 138 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: other the quote of the night to me came from 139 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis, the Bengals coach, UH, and I put it 140 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: in the recap. I didn't give any explanation because I 141 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: thought it worked better that way. But in this in 142 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: this situation, will say it was about the preseason trip Uh. 143 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: He was going to go there were in Atlanta and 144 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: the message he had for his players was We're not 145 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: here for the you know the girl Scout Jamboree. It 146 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: was at that moment my wife, who really likes the show, uh, 147 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: looked at me and said, he's too old to be 148 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: dealing with these players. Think they don't know what he's 149 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: talking about. What I agree? So yeah, that was That 150 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: was episode two. The one other thing that I should 151 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: point out his tailor maze. He's really jumping off the 152 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: page for me right now is the guy on Hard 153 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: Knocks that's trying too hard for the cameras. He had 154 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: this long story about this how he had fallen in 155 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: love with this girl. Almost seemed like he was being 156 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: catfished when he hold the photo up of her and 157 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: you know this, he just and then he was involved 158 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: with that singing skit with the boys to men, it 159 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: was like, dude, you know yourself, it was a little 160 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: to you let the camera come to you. I love 161 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: the random singing though. I do think about that, like, 162 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: if we were it doesn't matter how many people you 163 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: got together from NFL media, there would never be a 164 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: moment where we just start breaking out singing and everyone 165 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: starts going crazy. And I love I love that about 166 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: that happens every year. I love that about I think, 167 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: just dance and sing all the time and go crazy. 168 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: Harrison's reaction to the singing was great. I mean he 169 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: was like getting choked up. It was beautiful. Not nearly 170 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: enough James Harrison in episode two, but that makes sense 171 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: when you remember the story that came out yesterday about 172 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: how he despises the cameras. They don't deserve to be there. 173 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: Everyone's probably afraid to go near him on the Hard 174 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: Knocks crew. So another good episode, Greg, just out of curiosity. 175 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: If you had to give it a letter grade, what 176 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: would you give Episode two? Oh, that's an A minus. 177 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: I love that episode. What about the premiere? Somewhere lower? 178 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't as excited about the premiere, although I liked 179 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: Harrison yet last night I was cracking up a ton. 180 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: There was tons of good stories. Yeah, I'm I'm on 181 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: the same page through two episodes. I think the Dolphins 182 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: season might be a little bit better. But uh, I 183 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: think that you know, HBO has done it again. It's 184 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: such a great series. Um, okay, so let's move forward 185 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: a new segment. I guess we're gonna go around the 186 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: link is gonna go around the league with the headlines 187 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: that are going on right now. We will go to 188 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: the boss man on this, Greg, can you take us 189 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: around one of the big headlines on Wednesday. Well, we're 190 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: gonna go through some of the stories and just pound 191 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: right through him, starting with von Miller. Today we find 192 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: out that he was arrested. This raised the question. Uh, 193 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: it was just for traffic citations failing to appear in corp. 194 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: But it raised a question whether he could be punished further. Uh, 195 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: the big time Caleb Sturgist and Carpenter battle is over. 196 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: I've been excited about this all camp. Caleb stir just 197 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: is the band in Miami. We know Morris Jones drew 198 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: those kicks a little inside football there star just the 199 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: most impressive rookie and Dolphins camp. Yeah, that's right. There 200 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: was a tweet about that that's a bad, bad sign 201 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: for the Dolphins class. Uh. We know Marias Jones Drew 202 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: is gonna be playing this week in the preseason, so 203 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: that's a great sign for him. First action since October. 204 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: And then the big news of the day other than 205 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: the Tom Brady injury, which you're gonna hit in just 206 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: a second, is Jared vel Deer. Uh torst triceps. He's 207 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: gonna miss a big chunk of the season. He's the 208 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: starting left tackle for the Oakland Raiders, and I would 209 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: argue he's probably the best player on the Oakland Raiders. 210 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: I would argue it depends on whether McFadden's healthy and 211 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: playing well. But yeah, you could definitely say Veldier is 212 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: the best player on the Raiders. He was one of 213 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: the top five or six left tackles in the NFL 214 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: last year, and basically he and Wis new Ski are 215 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: your only really reliable offensive lineman. But I have to 216 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: say I'm taking my softball pants out of the marinade 217 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: failing awfully cavalier about this bet with Mark Seiler. The 218 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: Raiders will not win six games, because if they do, 219 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: West has promised, if you've listened to the show before 220 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: too dying on his softball pants, he's gonna eat from 221 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, from waist to toe, the entire rugged. A 222 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: third of it can be in a soup. They're just 223 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to take it off the board with the 224 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: left tackle, now, gun right. Let me just say one 225 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: thing though, and I'm curious what you guys think. Let's say, 226 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: Darren McFadden goes down with his inevitable footspraing uh in 227 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. There's no chance we're dealing 228 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: with a goose egg team here are we in Oakland. 229 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: It's it's so hard to go oh in sixteen. I mean, 230 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: they would be the team to do it. And I 231 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: can just hear a Raider nation sending angry tweets as 232 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: I say this, especially to Westling, who's reveling in an 233 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: injury to a young promising player. Well, I did, I 234 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: did the moon walk outside my swimming pool today. But yeah, 235 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: it's like the best player on their team at potentially 236 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: the most important position, and he could be back late 237 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: in the season. I think they're probably gonna wait until 238 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: week one, then put him on injured reserve designate him 239 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: to return, so he could maybe be back the second victory. 240 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: That's possible. I think Dennis Allen is a good head coach. 241 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: So just you fall into three or four withits, it's 242 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: hard to lose less than two or three games. I 243 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: can't believe we're still talking about the Raiders. When a 244 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: man crashed into Tom Brady's knee a couple of hours ago, 245 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: sent him to the ground and turned Twitter into a 246 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: war zone of speculation. Uh, Tom Brady, Greg you were 247 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: you have you stand the most to lose in this room. 248 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: I saw the look in your face as the story 249 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: was folding and people were speculating. Uh, you want to 250 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about this, Greg. Well, luckily 251 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: right before we taped this podcast are Ian Rappaport and 252 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: Albert Brier report that it's serious. It's a knee sprain. 253 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: Tom Brady was hitting practice today. Um. Basically, Nate Solder, 254 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: the left tackle, got pushed into him by the bucks. Uh, 255 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: Adrian Clayborne. You know, initially a lot of times we 256 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: hear things aren't serious, but this is coming from multiple reporters. Basically, 257 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 1: it's a question now whether he's gonna be day to 258 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: day or whether it's gonna be a couple of weeks. 259 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: But it's not the worst case scenario. Would Nate Solder 260 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: have to go into witness protection if this turned out 261 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: to be two thousand eight all over again, that's question. 262 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm just surprised Bernard Paul was not involved, was a 263 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: fair question. He probably was in Tennessee with some sort 264 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: of voodoo dollar or whatever right right when it happened. 265 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: I can picture picture Bernard Poler as the m R 266 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: I technician and the regular guy like passed out in 267 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: a storage closet somewhere. We knew things had gotten out 268 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: of control when the helicopter landed at Patriots practice and 269 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: apparently was just to pick up Robert Kraft, the team's owner, 270 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, and people started speculating what does this 271 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: mean about Tom Brady? And to me, that was a 272 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: moment that told us kind of how everything is different 273 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: in this Twitter age and it's gonna give Ryan Mallett 274 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 1: I guess a couple of weeks to UH or we'll 275 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: see a couple of days some extra snaps UH to 276 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: be their quarterback. But was it over reaction because I mean, really, 277 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: is there a bigger injury you could imagine at this 278 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: point in the preseason. I don't think so. I think 279 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: he's like one A with Peyton Manning, and well, the 280 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: difference between the Patriots they have so many new faces. 281 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: Manning's throwing to the same receivers as last year outside 282 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: of Welker, right. I mean that Brady has to be 283 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: there to break in all these new guys, but it 284 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: will hurt them if he misses some time. But I 285 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: think the overreaction was a lot of people leave practice 286 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: every day around the NFL. You have no idea when 287 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: he left practice, whether it was, you know, a minor thing, 288 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: or whether it was serious. Okay, so that is a 289 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: good way to get into our next UH segment in 290 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: our new feature we have, We're gonna go through each 291 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: of the divisions over the next two and a half weeks, 292 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: right king down each team as we get closer the season, whatever, 293 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: less than two weeks away, now just about three weeks, 294 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: three weeks away. Yeah. Um, So we'll start with the 295 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: a f C. East. We'll we'll wait on the paths 296 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: a little bit. Let's start with West. What we'll do here, 297 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: We'll go each of us will take a team and 298 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: ask one big question West because he was on his 299 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: off day and was surrounded at a swimming pool doing 300 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: like a congo with a bunch of seventy four year 301 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: old Gienta's he suffle board day to day. Yeah, he 302 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: got the final choice, so he gets to ask the 303 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: big question about the Buffalo Bills. When I think of 304 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: the Bills, the most interesting part of their team to 305 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: me is that we see all of this hype for 306 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: Chip Kelly and his uptipo offense, and it seems like 307 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: the Bills are trying to do the exact same thing. 308 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: I guess my question to you guys is, is E. J. 309 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: Manuel or Kevin Cobb the man that can carry this offense? 310 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: How will this offense look with one of those quarterbacks 311 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: running it? I think for me, it's it's so much 312 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: more important that Manuel is plugged in quick lee and 313 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: meshes and at least grows this season. Kevin Cobb is 314 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: a patch who, even if they started him out of 315 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: the gate, has never shown he can last more than, 316 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: you know, a quarter of a campaign. You want to 317 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: get manual in there, and you know, I think there 318 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: was some overreaction to his preseason debut. He showed some flashes, 319 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: but we really didn't see what that offense is. What 320 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: what we did see though, was right out of the gate. 321 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: C J. Spiller was used relentlessly on that first drive. 322 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: I think he is going to be the heart and 323 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: souls of this offense, which is very good news for 324 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: him because he was arguably under used last season, not chronically, 325 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it was a real issue for them. I 326 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a team that is not gonna 327 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: win a lot of games, but it's it's part one 328 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: of a longer rebuilding project. And I also I think 329 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: that they at least they have if they do go 330 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: with E. J. Manuel, and I think they will. They 331 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: have a great backfield with Spiller, And I know Fred 332 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: Jackson doesn't look so great right now, but if you 333 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: have two of those guys, you could feed them the rock, 334 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: feed the offense through them, similar to how the Jets 335 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: handled Marks Stanches and two thousand nine, and try not 336 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: to let the rookie. Everything must funnel back to the 337 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: Jets of two thousand and nine game, so take it. 338 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: I think some of these up tempo offenses simplify things 339 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: for young quarterbacks. Now in some way you have to, 340 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, make plays, and you don't know what the 341 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: play is even gonna be. Sometimes when you step up 342 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: to the line, you make a choice. But also it 343 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: kind of simplifies your reads and maybe that's good for 344 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: a young quarterback. I think Ian reported it today that look, 345 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: the Bills are just hoping that Manual takes charge. And 346 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be Manual week one. And I 347 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: think the Bill's offense is much more interesting than it's 348 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: been in a while. Marky's good one. Looks like a player. 349 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he looks like someone that's gonna be a factor. 350 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: He's he's fast. Spiller Graham Stevie Johnson is not really fast, 351 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: but he's certainly an established receiver. Robert Wills looks okay. 352 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: So far, Suddenly you throw all those guys out there, 353 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: they could at least be a little fun to watch, 354 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: even if they're out winning. I think there'll be much 355 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: more fun to watch this year. Okay, so that's the bill. 356 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: So well, I'll take the Jets because obviously you know 357 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: I have to talk about the Jets. My question that 358 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: will oppose to you guys is this, Uh, in my mind, 359 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: August fourteen is the day that the quarterback competition ended. 360 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: You have Geno Smith with a just a brutal practice 361 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: and he's injured. I really think at this point Rex 362 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: Ryan is turning the pages. He even came out and 363 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: said that, you know how brutal Gino was today. I 364 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: just think that they're now may be gonna change gears, 365 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: at least initially. My bigger question is this, if Sanchez 366 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: starts the season, how long before we see Geno Smith? 367 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: Because we're gonna see him eventually. And two piggyback on 368 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: a point that West made uh in a prior podcast. 369 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: You know, are we going to get to a situation 370 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: potentially where this two different agendas between John Eds the 371 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: GM and Rex Ryan the coach clashes and we have 372 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: something like a immovable object against a stoppable force and 373 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,239 Speaker 1: it could lead to Rex being out of work. Can 374 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: you see if a situation like that get to that point. 375 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: I think we've already We're already at a point where 376 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: there's a Fisher in the Jets, where you've got the 377 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: GM building and thinking about taking a team in one direction, 378 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: You've got Rex Ryan clinging to a whole different game plan. 379 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: That's my take. I don't see it ending well. I 380 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: don't think. I don't don't matter which quarterbacks starts the season. 381 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: We sort of get a sense of who Sanchez is 382 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: at this point. And same thing with Manual. If Gino 383 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: Smith is your future, I don't think there's a lot 384 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: of talent there. It's a tough situation. I wouldn't wait 385 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: months and months to get him plugged in. Here's what's 386 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: fascinating about this situation to me, it's the latest reminding 387 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: you don't want to. It's fascinating on an overarching NFL level, 388 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: as our latest reminder of just how quickly things change. 389 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: After that pick six, does Iggy Anza. Gino Smith had 390 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: been you know, most reported him out playing Sanchez and 391 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: camp sanchezter has a pick six. It looks like, how 392 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: can the Jets possibly into the season with the butt 393 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: fumble pick sixer. He's just it's a calamity. It's a 394 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: calamity waiting to happen. And then by the time Gino 395 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: Smith sprained his ankle, everyone is saying, oh, I guess 396 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: they have to go with Sanchez now. It's just so 397 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: quickly things change. And the New York Daily News broke 398 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: out the camp stats for Gino Smith, who had a 399 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: brutal day at practice on Wednesday, according to Rex Ryan 400 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: and Mark Sanchez, and it was uncanny how their stats 401 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: over the course of camp, which officially broke today, we're 402 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: the same, almost the same amount of attempts, almost the 403 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: exact same completion percentage, almost the exact same touchdown interception Rachel. 404 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: So they've been really close. That tells me if Gino 405 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: can steady the ship and just be okay. The next 406 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: couple of weeks and and he's healthy, I think he'll 407 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: start Week one, And to answer your question, if he doesn't, 408 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: I would say the second that their two games under 409 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: five hundred, Gino comes in. If not even before that, 410 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: I'd be stunned. A sanch as it was the quarterback 411 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: by Halloween. Looking at their schedule, Tampa to start at 412 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: New England, then it's not a little bad stretch. But 413 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: then you have Atlanta, Pittsburgh, New England, Cincinnati, New Orleans 414 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: that's week you know, we get to week nine and 415 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: there's no way Santis that I would say that would 416 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: be the quickest trigger in the league. If Sanchez wins 417 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback competition. It isn't it fair to say that 418 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: with Rex Ryan, if he gets out of this situation 419 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: with an eight and eight record, which is so unlikely, 420 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: he's equal to what Belichick did with Matt Castle in 421 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. I mean he's going in. He's 422 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: going in with literally one of the least talented rosters 423 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: in football being asked to do the impossible. No one 424 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: thinks he can do it. I still want to make 425 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: the case a little bit for the Jets. Their offense 426 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: can't get any worse and you can be excited Dan 427 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: about Mohammed Wilkerson, about Sheldon Richardson, Quentin Coples, Damario Davis, 428 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: David Harris. I mean that's a fun front seven that 429 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: could cause some damage. A top twelve defense, that's right, Yeah, 430 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: I think so, and possibly a top five why not. 431 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: Rex's showing seconds a little bit shaky, but you're right, Rex, Rex, Ryan, 432 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: there's every benefited out as a defensive I don't go 433 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: top five though, when you have an offense that might 434 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: have your defense out on the field minutes a game. 435 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: All right, we you know we're gonna talk about the 436 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: Jets the next podcast, in the podcast after that and 437 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: right that, so let's let's move on to the Miami Dolphins, 438 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: a completely retooled team or somewhat retooled Mark Sessler, what 439 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: is the big question? Well, the big question, unlike the 440 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: last two, is not quarterback base because I do think 441 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: that Ryan Tannehill finally gives them an answer at that position. 442 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: But the question is that offensive line. They went out 443 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: and they decorated all these other position groups, but that 444 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: left tackle position with Jonathan Martin and really you've got 445 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: issues at right guard. Where there's is it Jerry is 446 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: not starting at the moment. The guy behind him is hurt. 447 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: There are issues, and as Gregg pointed out at the 448 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game, you couldn't even get a fair 449 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: read on Tannehill's play because the guy is running for 450 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: his life. Back there. Does that go on into the seasoned? 451 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: If they don't mesh are the Dolphins just another seven 452 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: and nine team like they were last year despite all 453 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: the additions. Well, okay, here's what's fascinating to me about 454 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: the Dolphins since we already pointed out what's fascinating about 455 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: the Jeff, So, Jeff Ireland has this big shopping list. 456 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: He went and filled up his basket, bought more groceries 457 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: than any GM in the NFL. And it's the one 458 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: move he couldn't pull off that's gonna bite him. He 459 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: couldn't make the trade for Brandon Albert, who is a 460 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: well above average left tackle, and that's an important position 461 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: for a quarterback who's developing like Tannehill. So here he 462 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: is making all these moves and the one he couldn't 463 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: pull off is the one that could really hurt the 464 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: Dolphins this year. And it's always over stupid small stuff. 465 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: I'll give up the late second but I won't give 466 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: up the early second round pick to try to save 467 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: my job, to try to get a quality franchise left tackle, 468 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: because maybe we believe in Jonathan Martin. To answer your question, Mark, 469 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: I think it's gotta be a huge problem. In their 470 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: first preseason game, you know, Joe Philibin even pointed out 471 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: Mike us had single coverage every snap he was in 472 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: the game, didn't get one target because Tannehill wasn't protected. 473 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: That's coming from the head coach. I feel like Ireland 474 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: is the GM in your fantasy league that you have 475 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: a totally fair trade lined up. All you have to 476 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: do is throw in Raoul Labanyas or something, and the 477 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: guy won't do it and the whole trade goes under. 478 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: This is the situation that Dolphins have. They have the 479 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: GM that doesn't really have the guts to pull the 480 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: trigger on the trade that they need to make and 481 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: it might end up costing them, which I worry about 482 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: them by the way that the pressure from being that 483 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: team becomes something. And I usually don't get into all 484 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: the stuff off the field, but if they struggle a 485 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: little bit early and they have a pretty tough schedule, 486 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: there's gonna be so much talk about them as a 487 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: disappointing team when really I think the fair expectations for 488 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: them should be low. They're not in Miami, They're really high, 489 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: but they should be low. Okay, So that brings us 490 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 1: full circle. We're gonna head back to the Patriots now, Greg, 491 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: we were just talking about Brady. What let's we're assuming 492 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: he's gonna be fine and he'll either be ready for 493 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 1: the season or even before that. What is your big question? 494 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: My big question is can their defense be a difference maker? 495 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: For the first time since two thousand and four. They 496 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: have more continuity than they've had in a long time. 497 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: They're bringing back more young talent than they have in 498 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: a long time. You line up that group and there's 499 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: a lot of ways that the defense could actually be 500 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: a weapon. Or Am I just thinking that because I'm 501 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: a Homer, Well, certainly possible. I think so much depends 502 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: on Dan's making. The lead candidate Chandler Jones, who looked 503 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: like he was going to take the league by storm 504 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: last year, and really players can't succeed with a high 505 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: ankle spring. That really just savaged his season right there. 506 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: He's a difference maker. For them as a pass rutger 507 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: with they were lacking last year, and then they have 508 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: a really good, talented linebacker corps. I don't see why 509 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: this can't be a much improved defense. When I agree, 510 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: I think that they having the last couple of seasons, 511 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: really committed to building that defense up. I mean, talk 512 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: about Bill Belichick's overall reputation as a defensive geniuses has 513 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: been on the Rocks for half a decade or more. 514 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: But I think that they have finally short up that 515 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: linebacking group is West said is really really strong. But 516 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: to flip the script a bit, I just I think 517 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: that the defense is not gonna have to carry that 518 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: team at all. I don't see the offense declining as 519 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: much as some people predict. I'd see a slight decline. 520 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna have a problem with the 521 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: Patriots on offense. And just to go back to West's 522 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: point with Chandler Jones, you know, I watched a lot 523 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: of his snaps for that piece for the Making the 524 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: Leap series and what he was doing those in that 525 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: first month of the season. He was scary. He was 526 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: like a video game good. And then once his ankle 527 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: went out. I think it was during that blowout loss 528 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: of the blow went over the Colts. He was never 529 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: the same guy. So if his body is right, he 530 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: could be a guy. He could be a fifteen sack 531 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: guy that can completely change how they're able to play defense. 532 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: To keep to lead. Talked about it this week that 533 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: the Patriots are really hard team to play for. In Tampa, 534 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: we knew what the defense was gonna be. It was 535 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: the same week after week with New England. You never 536 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: know what's gonna come. You have to be ready for everything. 537 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: It changes every week, and I think the turnover on 538 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: their team has really hurt them because of that, and 539 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: that's why now you have guys. Mayo has been there 540 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: for a while, Spikes as a difference maker, high Tower 541 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: and Jones are entering their second year. Nankovich has been 542 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: there forever. Will Ferk's good. The front seven is pretty promising, 543 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: and now that these players know the scheme a little better, 544 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: I think Belichick can kind of do what he wants 545 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: to do. They've been a little more vanilla. The secondaries questionable, 546 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: but otherwise up front, I think he'll be able to 547 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: attack more than than he has before. So those are 548 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: the four teams in the NFC East, and I think 549 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: we decided a good way to wrap it up now 550 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: is to go through each of the teams and say 551 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: what we think their records will be. So we'll start 552 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: with West. What are your thoughts about the division and 553 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: regular season record. I think the Patriots remain easily the favorites. 554 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: I have them at eleven and five. Okay, second place. 555 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: I have the Dolphins just because of the talent advantage 556 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: over the Bills and Jets eight and eight. Third place, 557 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills six and ten in a rebuilding year, Dan 558 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: is now going under the desk in fourth place. I 559 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: have the Jets at five and eleven. I just see 560 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: too many things possibly going wrong for them in snowballing, 561 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: all right, uh right here on paper, my picks are 562 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: similar to West as to some degree. I have the 563 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: Patriots winning the division, but at ten and six, I 564 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: have the Dolphins in second place with a five eight 565 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: and eight record, one better than one game better than 566 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: last year. And then I have the Jets in Bills 567 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: both at five and eleven. But I think the Jets 568 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: will end up as the third place team in the division. 569 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: So you're even going as far to choose the tiebreakers 570 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: in the division. The Jets get it. Why not be 571 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: a precise? Why leave that vague? All right, I'll go 572 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: with mine. I say that Pats are gonna go twelve 573 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: and four and again everyone's gonna be so prize, but 574 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: I won't be easy division win for another year. Dolphins 575 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: will disappoint at eight, eight and eight. I think the 576 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: Jets and Bills will both finish six and ten. I 577 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: don't know how the tiebreaker will shake out. I like 578 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots to win the division easily at twelve and four. 579 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm with you, Dan, so underrated. How bad this division 580 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: has been overall during the Patriots tenure, It's really helped 581 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: them out. I think that will be especially true this 582 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,959 Speaker 1: year because I don't think anyone else in the division 583 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: goes over. I think the Jets are somewhat, you know, 584 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: surprising as a second place team at seven and nine. 585 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: I'll put the Dolphins in at seven and nine as well, 586 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: and then the Bills. Look, they have so many problems 587 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: I think on defense and just a young team at 588 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: four and twelve in last place. Wow, So not a 589 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: lot of shockers from the A t L crew and 590 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: Patrick Crawley are resident Bills fan downstairs is gonna be 591 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: very unhappy when he listens to this. Sorry, Patrick Crystal 592 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: behind the glasses telling us that we're out of time, 593 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: so we need to shut it down for another episode. 594 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: I believe we're going to have a special guest on 595 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: Friday that you know that Will waitch I even said that, 596 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: not to give it away, but it's an a f 597 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: C North Division preview, so it's someone that kind of 598 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: fits with the a f C North and it's not 599 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger. Yes, hopefully he doesn't hi hat us and 600 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: we'll have him until then. Thank you for listening to 601 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: the A t O Podcast