1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Coblt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: John is truly one of my favorite people. It's a 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: weird thing. I say that because for some reason people 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: think that John and I wouldn't get along. 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 3: We actually do. 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: First of all, I of course get along with everyone, 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 2: but John is someone who and I'll mention this because 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: I've just returned from vacation. I vacation with John. I 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: mean for long periods of time. It wasn't just like 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: our two couples went to Santa Barbara for the weekend. 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,639 Speaker 2: John Cobelt and I we took Betty and Wilma, our wives, 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: to Morocco together. Okay, so John and I we have 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: real history. We really shared and Morocco is a long trip. 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: I think it was a couple of weeks, and we 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: had a great time. And I will tell you that 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: John Cobelt is an awesome guy to go on vacation with. 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: He's like a low maintenance dude. You know, he's not 19 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: always trying to bigfoot the agenda or you know what 20 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: I mean. Those people can be very hard to travel with. 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 2: So I love traveling with John, and I so enjoy 22 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: John's company, and it's really cool to be here on 23 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: his show. And I'm planning a great show. 24 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: Now. 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: I've planned a lot of things in the past that 26 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: oftentimes don't come to past, but I really believe we 27 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 2: do have some great stuff coming up, and so specifically, 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 2: and then I'll mention a couple of things having just 29 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: come off this vacation Central America, South America, that you 30 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: might actually benefit from it, so it's not just me recounting, 31 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: and you might be able to relate to so. And 32 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: much of the vacation was pretty positive. The end really 33 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: tested patients, and again I think you'll be able to 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: relate to some of that. But I'll share some of 35 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: those thoughts with you in just a second. But I 36 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: want to let you know that I will remember tom 37 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: Smothers and we'll play you some audio, and I also 38 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: will tell you that again Tommy Smothers, who's one half 39 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: of the Smothers brothers. And wow, by the way, you 40 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: know that there are a whole bunch of people coming 41 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 2: up who don't know who Tommy Smothers was, because one 42 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 2: of them asked me on the way to the studio, mark, 43 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: we're gonna do something on this guy? Is it Smothers. 44 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: What's his last name? Yeah, I didn't know who he 45 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: was either. I know, I'll save Richie. I didn't know 46 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: who he was either. 47 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: Eric and Ritchie. 48 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: Don't know Tom Smothers. And again like that's not there's 49 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: nothing damnable about there's anything wrong with that. It's just funny. 50 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: Like those moments hit you and go, oh yeah, I 51 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: guess it's just that demographic and I'm in it anyway. 52 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: What a talented guy at a really interesting time in 53 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: American history when the Smothers Brothers had a dominant television 54 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 2: show that was canceled, not because it didn't do ratings, 55 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: as I say, it was dominant, but because of other factors. 56 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: We'll get into that next hour. New California laws are 57 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: coming in twenty twenty four. They do involve cannabis, new wages, 58 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: housing for criminals. 59 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, all of that still to come. 60 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: And later this hour, a little taste of from ABC 61 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: News what's going on with the Special Council and Donald Trump. 62 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: So I went to Central and South America. I don't 63 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: know if anybody has taken that run on as it 64 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 2: was a cruise. Okay, so you get on board and 65 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: you know it's very easy. 66 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: It really is. 67 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: I mean, there are bars everywhere, there's a casino, there's 68 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: their lectures on board. 69 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: I kind of like that, and I understand. 70 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: I well, it's a market, it's a floating Petrie dish. 71 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I get that part of it. But wow, 72 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: as Petrie dishes go, it's pretty nice. I mean, it's 73 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: it indulges all of your worst instincts. I think, as 74 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: I say, there's a bar everywhere, and it can casino. 75 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: You only need to find those two places to find 76 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: two of my worsions of I'm not a Yeah, I 77 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: don't like to get drunk and like stagger into the casino. 78 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: That's just not who I am. 79 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: But it just makes me a little happy the drink 80 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: and then I go into the casino and then usually 81 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 2: I get less happy. But any case, so there's that, 82 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 2: and it's stopping at all these places. They're very exotic. 83 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: Through Mexico, into Guatemala and Ecuador, then into Peru and 84 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: finally in Chile. It was really fun and you do, 85 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: as I say, get used to that. 86 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: Cruise lifestyle. 87 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: And I'm laughing because they have these buffets that are endless. 88 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: It looks like a wedding reception every meal with these 89 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: elaborate cakes and pastries, and they're just beautiful. I mean, 90 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: they're stunning. It must be a city of activity on 91 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: board these things. 92 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: So great. 93 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: Again, we had a good time and we stop at 94 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 2: the end of the cruise in Chile. They're on the 95 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: dock and I'm told this, you have to get your 96 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: bags packed and out in the hallway the night before 97 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: and then they'll be taken from the ship to the dock. 98 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: And the dock's right there, it's eighty feet away, okay, 99 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: Or you can drag your big luggage off this you 100 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: know small whatever's that called? Does that called a gangway 101 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: or a you know, the ramp down from the boat. 102 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: So I packed the stuff the night before. This is uncharacteristic. 103 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 2: My de facto wife, she doesn't. She says, I'm just 104 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 2: gonna take this stuff off myself. I don't want to 105 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: deal with it tonight. Well, of course, you know where 106 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: this is going. We get off the ship and she's 107 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: dragging this huge bag. I of course, because I've smartly 108 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: packed the night before, and I put all the appropriate 109 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: tagging on it, and I'm going to pick up my 110 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: bag just the way they told me I should. 111 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 3: My bags are missing. 112 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: So my luggage is gone and it's still gone, pants, underwear, gifts, liquor, 113 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: it's all gone, two full bags. I had huge gifts 114 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: for Deborah Mark and they have did I did? 115 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: I did? 116 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna I'm going to track down the luggage 117 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 4: for you. I'm gonna find I'm gonna find that darn luggage. 118 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 3: I'm big into gifts, that's right. I knew it was 119 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: gonna do. KFI. I brought gifts for everybody they've been lost. 120 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: So I filled out the online form Deborah Hope Springs Eternal. 121 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 3: Maybe it will be found. 122 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: If it's found, I think it's likely on that dock 123 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: somewhere in Chile. 124 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 4: That is the craziest thing because I know exactly what 125 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 4: you're talking about because I've I've taken cruises as well. 126 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 4: And unless somebody, I don't want to accuse anybody, but 127 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 4: unless somebody stole it, it's almost impossible to lose your 128 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 4: bags that way. 129 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, how do you lose it from the boat 130 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: to the dock. 131 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 4: There's something there. 132 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 2: It's not like I said, Oh, I got to put 133 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: it on a truck, and that truck's going to meet 134 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: you at the hotel. 135 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: But no, man, he was looking. 136 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 4: At those gifts. They knew, they knew that you that 137 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 4: you packed gifts. Well that's what happened. 138 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 3: The bags, and I recommend this to everyone. 139 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: The bags are really ordinary looking, like like I don't 140 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: have bags. You would go, oh, there's something really valuable 141 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: inside those, And so I'm surprised if that's the case 142 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: that it would be ripped off because there's just nothing 143 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: at all luxurious about my bags. And by the way, 144 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: or the contents, I mean, all the gifts are very 145 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: you know, they're gifty gifts, so anyway, we hope you 146 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: get them back. But so I had to buy, you know, 147 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: same pair of underwear for forty eight hours. I know 148 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: that's not a big thing, but to me, I don't 149 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: like it. You're sweating, it's hot. I'm not going to 150 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: be any more specific than that. But so I had 151 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: to re charge and rebuy an entire wardrobe for the 152 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: final four days that we were there. 153 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 3: And Deborah, your gift is out there somewhere. 154 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 4: I cannot wait to get it. 155 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: I'm sure it's amazing when we come back. 156 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: There is controversy on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, Donald 157 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: Trump is involved. We will share that with you next. 158 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: We miss John, we do, but it's so much fun 159 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,119 Speaker 2: to be here on the John Coblt Show. Mark Thompson 160 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: sitting in on KFI AM six forty live everywhere on 161 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. 162 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 163 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 5: six forty. 164 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: Mark Thompson sitting in for John until the New year 165 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 2: when John slides in, which will be I guess Tuesday 166 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: next week Here with the crew and Richie, Eric and Deborah, 167 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: Mark watching and news events. A couple of big developments 168 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: with the Donald Trump January sixth k it's a special counsel. 169 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: We'll get to that with the ABC's t Portnoy in 170 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: a moment. But there's sort of a weird story out 171 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: of Hollywood involving Trump and I don't know, I mean, 172 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: you know, Trump legit star. I think you know he 173 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: had a number one show in the Apprentice and as 174 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: a TV personality. 175 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: I guess what I'm saying is he's legit. 176 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: He's probably he was deserving of a star on the 177 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: Walk of Fame, as a lot of other people have 178 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: stars and who made it in television. You know, regardless 179 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: of what you think of him, I'm just talking about 180 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 2: the star part. 181 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: Okay. 182 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: So he has this star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, 183 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: and now there's a huge move to have Donald Trump's 184 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: star remove from the Hollywood Walk of Fame. So there's 185 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: petitioning at an LA City Council meeting. There are multiple 186 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: city council members that don't support Donald Trump having his 187 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: star and they want to see it removed. And there's 188 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: several groups with varying levels of jurisdiction on this, that 189 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 2: operate the Walk of Fame, the City Council, of the 190 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: Chamber of Commerce in Hollywood, the Hollywood Historic Trust, and 191 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 2: this just in no one's ever had a star removed. 192 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's hard enough to get him, 193 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 2: and the process for actually removing somebody has never really 194 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: been established, so they don't really even know what dance 195 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: to do to get rid of this star. Now, let 196 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,599 Speaker 2: me just step out of this and say, look, I 197 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: don't know where you stand on Donald Trump, but in 198 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: my view, the guy's got a star on the Walk 199 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 2: of Fame. I mean he's legit, as I say, he's 200 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: a legit TV star. Then he became president controversial, I 201 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: get it, but leave the guy out. I wouldn't remove 202 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: his star if it was, you know, in a Mark 203 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: Thompson world. I leave his star on the Walk of Fame. Okay, 204 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean you have to endorse everything that he 205 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: did or anything that he did. But I know that 206 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: he ran the show as host The Apprentice, it did 207 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: well and for that reason, and probably you know, owning 208 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: them as Universe Pageant and other stuff like he did 209 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: his producer whatever, He's got his star and I just 210 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: wouldn't touch it. But anyway, there's a huge effort to 211 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 2: get rid of it. And I will say this the 212 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: star because Trump is that controversial and viewed as you know, 213 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: sort of a transformationally controversial type person. He has a 214 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: star that's been vandalized, it's been smashed a couple of times. 215 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 2: It's cost more than twenty thousand dollars to maintain the star. 216 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 2: So there's way more going into this star than just 217 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: the fact that there's a star of the Walk of Fame. 218 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: I mean, you remember that one street artist put prison 219 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: bars on the star. 220 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: That was just what two years ago. I believe, during the. 221 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: Height of Trump controversy, brought a toilet of bathtub, stacks 222 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: of fake documents to the site that was earlier this 223 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: year that was in reference to the Marlago case. You know, 224 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: So again Trump and a defensive guy to many people, 225 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: and a lot of those people want that star off. 226 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: So again you're hearing from those who like, for example, 227 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: the president and chief executive of the Hollywood Chamber of 228 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: Commerce who says, hey, stars are not removed. There were 229 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: calls this year to get rid of the star belonging 230 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 2: to anybody. 231 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 3: Bill Cosby. 232 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: He's been accused of sexual misconduct with forty five women 233 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: accused him of that. He was found guilty of aggravated 234 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 2: indecent assault. That conviction was overturned, as you know, on 235 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 2: something of a technicality. But anyway, so they didn't remove 236 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: his star, and this guy, Lauren Goidler says, look, it's 237 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 2: considered part of the historic fabric of the Hollywood Walk 238 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: of Fame. We've never removed a star from the walk. 239 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 2: But now the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce is making rumblings 240 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: like they have the power to remove a star. So again, 241 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: this is all going back and forth. Because there was 242 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: a felony complaint against the guy who destroyed the Trump 243 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: star with a pickaxe and sledgehammer. That was in twenty twenty. 244 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: So there's just a lot wrapped up in this star. 245 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: But as I said, you know I mentioned Bill Cosby, 246 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 2: you couldn't. If you want a political figure, look at 247 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan was a celebrity in movies and 248 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: in that world of television. He was a pitchman and 249 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 2: all the rest. He was a very high profile figure 250 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 2: in American television before he became a high profile figure 251 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: in California politics and then as you know, in national politics. 252 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: So Ronald Reagan, you know, he has a legit claims, 253 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: a legit claim to show business history. You can't take 254 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: that away from him. And you may not like Ronald Reagan. 255 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: You may have feeled that Ronald Reagan is linked to 256 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 2: a lot of the crises associated with mental illness, and 257 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: the mental illness crisis sort of spilling over onto the 258 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: streets of California. 259 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: That back to Ronald Reague to make an argument for that. 260 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: But again, would you take away that which is a 261 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 2: legit claim to show business history. So when it comes 262 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: to Donald Trump, as I say, seems like a legit 263 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: character on the Star thing. But if it's getting to 264 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: be so much trouble to maintain a star. I don't know, 265 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: put something up around it or whatever. 266 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: I mean. 267 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: You the stuff that's being said at the meetings, and 268 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: they've taken this up as a at the City Council 269 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: as a serious effort. You're hearing this. Donald Trump is 270 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: a racist, fascist threat to our democracy. There's no known 271 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: precedent for removing a star from the Hollywood Walk of Fame, 272 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: but we are looking into it where the authority lies, 273 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: where the legal issues may be, what a process for 274 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: it might look like. I must say that I've always 275 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: considered the Hollywood Walk of Fame depending on who the 276 00:14:54,440 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: person is. It's two parts what you've done and one 277 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: part who you know and how much money you have. 278 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: Because there is a political process to getting a star. 279 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: You've seen it. You can see some of the stars, 280 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: and you can see some of the contemporary stars that 281 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: have been awarded. They go, well, that seems like that 282 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: might be two parts politics and only one part legitimacy. 283 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: So I think they play fast and a loose a 284 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: bit with this world of the Hollywood Walk of Fame. 285 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: That said, there are many people who probably deserve multiple stars, 286 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: They've done such great work in Hollywood, but the removal 287 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,479 Speaker 2: of a star is unprecedented. So we will see what happens. 288 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: But Donald Trump, as usual, is testing the limits of 289 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: what society has laid down as the boundaries when it 290 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: comes to yet another world, and that's the Hollywood Walk 291 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: of Fame. Now in the legitimate stuff that counts, the 292 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: Special Council is now saying Trump should be barred from 293 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: blaming others for the January sixth attack. We talked to 294 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: ABC reporter Steve Portnoy about that. 295 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 3: As the legal machine. 296 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: Grinds on later, there is a major American institution going away. 297 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: It's extraordinary. I'm guessing that all of us have been 298 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: through this place that is vanishing from the American landscape. 299 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: We'll get to that later in the hour. Mark Thompson 300 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: here for John Cobelt on KFI AM six forty. We're 301 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 302 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 303 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 5: six forty. 304 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: Mark Thompson here for John coblt who returns next week. 305 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: There is a news of the moment from the Special 306 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: Council's office and from the Legal Machinations around Donald Trump. 307 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: You know, there's all this controversy about Donald Trump and 308 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: whether or not he should be barred from various ballots 309 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 2: in the States, also barred from blaming others for the 310 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: January sixth attack. And we go to ABC's Steve Portnite 311 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: for more on this high Steve Well afternoon. 312 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 3: Indeed, So Steve, tell us what's happening. 313 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: I mean, this comes out of the Special councils off 314 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: is this request to the judge. 315 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 6: Well, that's right, this is and it's not focused as 316 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 6: much on the things that Donald Trump might say outside 317 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 6: of court, but really it's meant to be sort of 318 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 6: a narrowing or focusing of the arguments that his attorneys 319 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 6: might make in court before the jury. And you see 320 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 6: this from time to time, judges ruling that certain things 321 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 6: are irrelevant and shouldn't be discussed before a jury. Well, 322 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 6: in this case, Jack Smith, the Special Council says that 323 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 6: a couple of things, several things that have been mentioned 324 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 6: by Donald Trump's attorneys, either in their legal filings or 325 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 6: by the candidate himself on the campaign trailer on social media, 326 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 6: should be out of bounds for the courtroom. This filing 327 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 6: today from Jack Smith says, Donald Trump is repeatedly and 328 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 6: these are his words, repeatedly levied baseless political claims and 329 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 6: might inject politics into this proceeding. 330 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 7: What are we talking about specifically? 331 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 6: Jack Smith says that Trump should be prohibited from trying 332 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 6: to convince jurors of any of the January sixth conspiracy 333 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 6: theories of the idea that not enough security was positioned 334 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 6: by congressional leaders at the Capitol prior to January sixth 335 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 6: in the riot. He should not be able to argue. 336 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 6: They say that he's been vindictively, selectively prosecuted at President 337 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 6: Biden's direction. 338 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 7: These are some of the things that Jack Smith says. 339 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 6: He could stay on the campaign trail, he could sayd 340 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 6: on social media, could try to convince voters, but he 341 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 6: can't try to argue before a jury any of these 342 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 6: points because it wouldn't have to do with the guilt 343 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 6: or innocence of the defendant. 344 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 7: These accused offenses got to give it. That's the bottom line. 345 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jack Smith's as a as a special counsel, and 346 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: as the legal mind prosecuting this in every way running 347 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: it out. This is a pretty aggressive move, essentially reining 348 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: in someone who he feels clearly, and by this request, 349 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 2: I think it's implied that Trump is going to be 350 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: somebody who's going to kind of, you know, tear up 351 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 2: the courtroom the way al Pacino did in Injustice for all. 352 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 7: Well and his attorneys too. 353 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 6: I mean, look, these are arguments that the lawyers have 354 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 6: made in legal filings that the Special Councils has responded to, 355 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 6: that the judge in some respects has rejected. And what 356 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 6: the prosecutor wants to do is prevent these arguments from 357 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 6: being raised at opening statements, prevent these issues from coming 358 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 6: up and questioning, prevent these issues from coming up in 359 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 6: closing arguments, and it is up to the judge to decide. Now, 360 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 6: all we've heard from on this point is from the prosecutors. 361 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 6: The defense attorneys will have their argument to make in 362 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 6: a legal filing, and then Judge Chuckkin will decide. But 363 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 6: of course the whole trial is on pause. Remember, the 364 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 6: DC Circuit Appeals Court in about two weeks is going 365 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 6: to hear arguments on whether Donald Trump and enjoys protection 366 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 6: from any prosecution at all, whether he enjoys absolute immunity 367 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 6: because he says that whatever he's accused of doing were 368 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 6: his official acts as president, which he says should be 369 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 6: beyond the reach of prosecutors. And then there's the corollary 370 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 6: to it. The second argument is that he should enjoy 371 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 6: double jeopardy protections because there already was a Senate impeachment 372 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 6: trial and he was acquitted there, and so therefore he 373 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 6: shouldn't have to face criminal charges for whatever he was 374 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 6: acquitted of. In the Senate trial. It was only fifty 375 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 6: seven senators who voted that he was guilty, not sixty 376 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 6: seven as the constitution requires. We'll see how that all 377 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 6: comes out of the appeals panel with the arguments in 378 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 6: about two weeks, and whether they're skeptical of the arguments 379 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 6: or sympathetic to the arguments, and then whether Trump tries 380 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 6: to take or other side tries to take that to 381 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 6: the Supreme Court, and whether the Supreme Court will take 382 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 6: it up. Last week they said not now. They rejected 383 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 6: the request of Jack Smith to try to leap prog 384 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 6: over the appeals Court. And that's where it lies right now. 385 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 6: But the idea, idea that about two months from now 386 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 6: this case would be going to trial is very much 387 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 6: now thought to be unlikely because there are so many 388 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 6: of these issues that will be fought over and appealed 389 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 6: and debated at the various levels of the justice system. 390 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 6: The idea of having a jury and paneled two months 391 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 6: from now is or two months in a week from 392 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 6: now is a bit unrealistic. Most people would tell you. 393 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 2: Well, I chuckle, ABC News correspondent Stephen Portnoyd, because the system, 394 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: it's sort of ironic. The system that is dogging Trump, 395 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: the legal system charges of all sorts. It's actually Trump's 396 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 2: friend in terms of taking up various appeals. To the 397 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 2: point that all of this just keeps getting delayed, delayed, delayed. 398 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 6: Well, it should be without doubt that this is part 399 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 6: of Trump's political and legal strategy to try to just 400 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 6: throw as much against the wall as he can from 401 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 6: an appeal standpoint, to see what might. 402 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 7: Stick, to drag this out. 403 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 6: He does not want to see a swift resolution of 404 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 6: these issues, and you can imagine that part of the 405 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 6: reason he doesn't is because he wants to become the 406 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 6: next president. 407 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 7: He wants to be able. 408 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 6: To dismiss these charges or be in the state courts 409 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 6: able to stave it off and say that he need not. 410 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 6: He can't answer those charges in court because he has 411 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 6: bigger and more important responsibilities to the country. 412 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: This again, though, is the request at the federal level 413 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: from the Special Council. 414 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 7: Correct, follow the bouncing ball. That's right. 415 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 6: We have four separate criminal cases. This is the one 416 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 6: here in Washington, d C. Having to do with January sixth. 417 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 6: There's a separate federal prosecution going on down in Florida 418 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 6: having to do with the handling of classified documents. 419 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: Steven Portnoy, you did it. I don't know how, but 420 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: you let it out clearly. Thank you, appreciate the updates. 421 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: You bet all right. Happy new year, mind friend. The 422 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 2: Special Counsel saying that Donald Trump should be barred from 423 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: blaming others for January sixth and all the other stuff 424 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 2: to which Steven was referring, You know that Trump shouldn't 425 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: be able to argue through lawyers or personally that he 426 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: was tricked by foreign disinformation, et cetera. So that continues, 427 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: and at minimum it is delayed. When we come back 428 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 2: the vanishing of something that has really been part of 429 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: Americana in a way. 430 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 3: We'll get to that. Next is the John Cobelts Show. 431 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: Mark Thompson sitting in for John on KFI AM six 432 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 433 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 434 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 5: six forty. 435 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 2: Mark Thompson sitting in for Johnny comes back will be Tuesday, 436 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: I guess, the first full day of work after the 437 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: New year. They're saying, by the way, the Rose Parade 438 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 2: could have rain, potentially. They always play up that drama though, Debora, 439 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 2: Mark and I always play Having been a weather guy. 440 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 4: For many years, I was gonna say, you know, there's 441 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 4: a teeny teeny. 442 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, if there's even a chance we play it up, 443 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 2: we like the drama. Then they usually send They used 444 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 2: to send me out once in a while, and I 445 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: would say maybe six or seven years. I was out 446 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: there the night before, did live remotes from you know 447 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 2: where the people are camping out. 448 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 3: We've been in there for four days. Came here from Georgia. 449 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 3: I just here for the game. 450 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 4: I could never do that. I mean, I know people 451 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 4: love it, but I could never understand Freezy. The lines, 452 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 4: all the people are not worth it to me. 453 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: But I don't see you out there. 454 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: I don't see you even waiting on a long line 455 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: at best Buy for some great TV deal. Yeah, I 456 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 2: don't see you you're not a camp out and wait 457 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 2: for the whatever. 458 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 3: It is kind of personal. 459 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 4: It would have to be something so amazing for me 460 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 4: to do that. 461 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they're there every year, and rain or shine, 462 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: they'll bring off the parade. But I suspect it will 463 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: be dry. That's based on absolutely no information. I just 464 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 2: that's based on climatology, based on statistics, right, and. 465 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 3: Your chances are it'll be fine. 466 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: I'll tell you one thing, and this I say to 467 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,959 Speaker 2: Conway all the time. When I was growing up in 468 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 2: the cold and the wet of the East Coast, and 469 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: I would see on New Year's Day that Rose Parade 470 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 2: and then the Rose Bowl and then all the other 471 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 2: Bowl games that were in California or any place in 472 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 2: the West. All I wanted to do was move to 473 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 2: the warm, dry weather of California. I'm telling you, it's 474 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: like an insane advertisement for this great place that is California. 475 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 2: And I get it not as great as it used 476 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: to be, Okay, but I'm telling you, go to the 477 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: East Coast, it's not as great as it used to 478 00:25:59,040 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 2: be either. 479 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 4: So if we just didn't have earthquakes, California would be amazing. 480 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, if we didn't if we had if we didn't 481 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 2: have that threat, and I will add if we had 482 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 2: more watery Water's a big thing. 483 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 4: So there's a list, but for me there is. But 484 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 4: as a news person, I really can't talk about that. 485 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 4: But I could say that I hate earthquakes, and so 486 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 4: if California did not have an earthquake, yeah, no. 487 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 3: I get it. 488 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: I definitely want the things I want there to be 489 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: more of. It's security about quakes, but I would also 490 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: i'd put top of the list, I'd put water and 491 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 2: you know, water, fire, quakes. Those are the three things 492 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: that are on my list. Those are my top three. Well, 493 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 2: this isn't to me. This is extraordinary because it's so 494 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 2: much a part of the American landscape, and that is 495 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: bus stations. Now, you may not use a bus, and 496 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 2: may have taken a bus for some small distances at 497 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 2: some part in your life, but there are people who 498 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: depend on buses all their lives. And you know, I 499 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 2: grew up only take buses. I'm talking about long rides. 500 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about you know, a bus from Van 501 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 2: Eyes to downtown. Each year, about half a million people 502 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 2: go through one bus terminal, and that's Chicago's Greyhound bus station. 503 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 3: It's climbate control. 504 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 2: They're nice bathrooms there, security guards, is a snack bar. 505 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: They have about three dozen arrivals and departures every day, 506 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: and that's in Chicago. Well, it's one of the places 507 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: that they're talking about closing completely. Greyhound's owner and the 508 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 2: owner of several of these huge bus lines. They're talking 509 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: about closing down these places where these are terminals, they're 510 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 2: bus terminals. The millions of travelers and a lot of 511 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 2: them are on lower incomes that you know, travel through 512 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: buses and through bus lines instead of rail or aviation. 513 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: Huge huge impact to them. So where are they closing. 514 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: At least eight cities have lost bus stations this far, 515 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: and these are big cities, Philadelphia, Columbus, Ohio, Tampa, Florida. 516 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: So you have essentially bus passengers in those places waiting 517 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: on street corners and parking lots, and local officials aren't 518 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: crazy about that either. I mean, who are these people 519 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 2: now congregating in parking lots in their city? The German 520 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 2: bus operator flicks they own Greyhound, which is something I 521 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: didn't know. I mean, I would have guessed an American 522 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: company own Greyhound, but at some point this German company 523 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: acquired them. They want to help fund new facilities, and 524 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: local officials who are getting bummed out that there are 525 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: so many people gathering in these places that now have 526 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 2: to be the places where the bus comes right because 527 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: there's no more bus stations. Who's the street or parking 528 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: lot as I say, they're saying that it's the responsibility 529 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 2: of of those operators of the bus lines to build 530 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: facilities for their buses. It's not our city's job to 531 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 2: build you something where you're going to put your passengers 532 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 2: and drop them off or pick them up. Greyhound owned stations, 533 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: public transit centers like Port Authority Terminal in New York 534 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 2: there were, and our truck stops at fast food restaurants. 535 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: These all exist, but now this is all changing. A 536 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 2: lot of these places are essentially organized to be connections 537 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 2: for longer trips, and these bus trips are huge, so 538 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: it would be again I mentioned the connections because it 539 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: would be difficult to like change buses to get to 540 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: wherever you're going, so certain routes wouldn't be around anymore. 541 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 3: Your ability to get from here to there. 542 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: I'm talking about state to state now, from Texas to California, 543 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: et cetera. You may not have any ability to do it, 544 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 2: and so what's going to happen is that likely a 545 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: lot of these routes will be raised and you'll have 546 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 2: to have point to point service, so it would be 547 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: you know, El Paso to Los Angeles or El Paso 548 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 2: to Phoenix, and there'll be no stops. The Chicago bus 549 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: station loss is a very big deal, and Chicago officials 550 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: say that they want to try to find a way 551 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: to keep the terminal going, but it's very very tough climb. 552 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 2: Greyhound stopped serving North Little Rock, Arkansas earlier this year. 553 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: The station closed. No alternative locations are going to be found. 554 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: Cincinnati lost its bus station last year. Et cetera now 555 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: buses stop instead of the bus station Cincinnati, about ten 556 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: miles from downtown off an interstate. And again, Greyhound was 557 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 2: sold to this German company for one hundred and seventy 558 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 2: two million. Apparently that was in twenty twenty one, and 559 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 2: that was a fraction of what the company had been 560 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: worth just years. But the sale didn't include Greyhound stations 561 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: and maintenance facilities, and those are being marketed separately. So 562 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: you've got a company that owns the bus line, but 563 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: they don't own any place to pick up passengers. 564 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 3: Or drop them off. 565 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: This is going to be an increasing problem for local 566 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: governments nationwide and here in California in a big, big way. 567 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 2: And then I ask you who has responsibility to handle it? 568 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 3: I mean, if we're running. 569 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: Well, if we're running LA and the LA bus station, 570 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 2: don't you think those bus lines have some responsibility to 571 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: both maintain and maybe even have part ownership in those 572 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: facilities or is it a public responsibility? I mean, is 573 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 2: it like lax you know, where there is a combination 574 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: of fees paid to use the facility and public ownership. Well, 575 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: this something I mean, watch this space type of thing. 576 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 2: Because you and I might not take a lot of buses, 577 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 2: or you know, you may be somebody who's very much 578 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 2: affected by this. Maybe you only take buses. There are 579 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: a lot of reasons people take buses. Transportation, particularly in California, 580 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 2: can really be served. 581 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 3: By a lot of these buses. 582 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: And if bus travel is changing because of the loss 583 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 2: of the stations, it's it's a wild development in what 584 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: continues to be a robust way that people transport themselves 585 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: from one place to the next. So when we come back, 586 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: Tom Smothers one half of the Smothers Brothers. He passes away. 587 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: He was the kind of the his on stage persona, 588 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 2: the younger guy, the kind of he played it sort 589 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 2: of like the rival were his brother, Mom like you 590 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 2: more and kind of the i'm gonna say almost the 591 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 2: boyish one. In real life he was not the boyish one. 592 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 2: I'll have a bit of an interview with him and 593 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 2: tell you more about that, and also a piece of 594 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 2: them at their height. The Smothers Brothers were so relevant 595 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 2: at a time in American history that was really really key. 596 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 2: So all of that to come at John Cobalt Show. 597 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: Mark Thompson sitting in for John and KFI AM six forty. 598 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 2: We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 599 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 600 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: You can always hear the show live on KFI AM 601 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 602 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.