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Speaker 2: San Diego State, Yukon, Bama, North Carolina, Illinois and Iowa
Speaker 2: State thirteen games Major League Baseball weather permitting. LSU's Jaden
Speaker 2: Daniels had his pro day yesterday. Now, there's a couple
Speaker 2: of schools of thought with j Jaden Daniels. When he
Speaker 2: played at Arizona State under Herm Edwards, he was very thin, exciting, dynamic,
Speaker 2: made the highlights, but thin goes to LSU. Seemed to
Speaker 2: be a little bit bigger. He's six three, about two ten,
Speaker 2: and there's a feel that he's sort of Lamar Jackson
Speaker 2: like as far as his build. But I don't see
Speaker 2: that because Lamar looks pretty solid and Jaden Daniels still
Speaker 2: looks a little thin. Now, this is part of the
Speaker 2: knock on him seventeen games schedule, just like Bryce Young. Now,
Speaker 2: he's taller than Bryce Young, but canny withstand the riggers
Speaker 2: of a seventeen game schedule. I don't know of any
Speaker 2: quarterback who can really withstand the riggers of a seventeen
Speaker 2: game schedule. It's the style you play is the reason
Speaker 2: you can or can't withstand the riggers of an NFL season.
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson's done an unbelievable job at his size of
Speaker 2: avoiding big hits, whereas I like in Jaden Daniels to
Speaker 2: RG three, I think RG three was six ' to
Speaker 2: two but slight, and he took on some hits there
Speaker 2: and cut short his career. I mean there's other reasons
Speaker 2: that factored in, but he had a meteoric rise when
Speaker 2: he got in. We had not seen somebody like him,
Speaker 2: probably since Michael Vick. But I look at Jaden Daniels,
Speaker 2: is he a RG three type? You know, very athletic
Speaker 2: and very accurate as a passer and as pro day
Speaker 2: Sometimes when you take somebody for granted, like Caleb Williams
Speaker 2: has been great, and there were ESPN analysts who came
Speaker 2: away and said, Okay, yeah, nothing special. Well, if you're
Speaker 2: looking at a beautiful woman and you know she's a
Speaker 2: beautiful woman, and then you meet her and you go, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean she's beautiful. But then if you have somebody
Speaker 2: and you go, hey, she is really sneaky good looking,
Speaker 2: then you meet him and going you are right, no surprises.
Speaker 2: Well maybe with Jaden Daniels you're a little bit more surprised.
Speaker 2: Whereas Caleb Williams, you weren't at the pro day and
Speaker 2: it felt like some of the analysts were coming back
Speaker 2: from that pro day going wow, Now it's not just
Speaker 2: how he plays, it's how he answers questions, his personality,
Speaker 2: what his teammates say about him. And I think that's
Speaker 2: where Jaden Daniels made some impact and imprint on some
Speaker 2: of these analysts by how he handled himself. Now you
Speaker 2: had people knocking Caleb Williams because he has a pink
Speaker 2: cell phone, like, get a grip with reality here. Oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, I'd never d a guy who has a
Speaker 2: pink cell phone. Okay, good, I'll take him. I don't care.
Speaker 2: I mean, Joe Burrow shows up in crazy outfits. Are
Speaker 2: you gonna go Nope, I'm not taking him. He has
Speaker 2: crazy outfits there. You know, we talk ourselves in and
Speaker 2: out of logic. Sometimes you're going, does that make sense?
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels, Kenny withstand the punishment, the rigors of a
Speaker 2: seventeen game schedule. If he's smart, then he can can
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams. Yes, if he's smart. If you extend a play,
Speaker 2: that's one thing. If you're trying to run, because that's
Speaker 2: the play that's designed, that's different. Now Josh Allen takes
Speaker 2: on Contactchue a tongue of ilo is not taking on contact.
Speaker 2: I would expect Jaden Daniels to not take on contact.
Speaker 2: Most quarterbacks shouldn't take on contact. Cam Newton could take
Speaker 2: on contact, but you know what happened after a while
Speaker 2: taking on that contact out of football in his early thirties.
Speaker 2: You gotta be smart. It's all be smart. Jayden Daniels
Speaker 2: made an impression Malik Neighbors, his wide receiver. He stood out.
Speaker 2: You know it's weird. And I liken this too. When
Speaker 2: a scout went to watch somebody else playing in a
Speaker 2: basketball game and found Jahn Morant, they weren't going to
Speaker 2: scout John Morant. They found Ja Morant. Like that guy's
Speaker 2: really good over there. Now, Jaden Daniels is going to
Speaker 2: be probably the second quarterback taken. But Neighbors, when you
Speaker 2: watch him, you're like, I found myself watching him more
Speaker 2: than I did Jaden Daniels just because he may be
Speaker 2: the first receiver off the board as far as the
Speaker 2: number two pick overall. The Commanders and their new head
Speaker 2: coach Dan Quinn had this to say.
Speaker 3: Somebody thinks they know they're about to fill me in
Speaker 3: because Adam and Einem we're not there. Yet so once
Speaker 3: we get that's okay, once we do, but let's go
Speaker 3: through the whole thing. And that's actually a really fun
Speaker 3: part of this to make sure that you don't crush them,
Speaker 3: you know, for us, are all these picks. We're going
Speaker 3: to add a lot of really good players, add a
Speaker 3: lot of positions, so I know, quarterback gets a lot
Speaker 3: of the attention, and like as.
Speaker 2: It should, is the story here everywhere.
Speaker 4: But there's a lot of players and the.
Speaker 3: Team has been set up in a good space, you know,
Speaker 3: with a lot of picks for this year's draft. So
Speaker 3: that'll be one of the storylines, but it won't be
Speaker 3: the story line.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go around the room. Who thinks the commanders
Speaker 2: don't know who they're taking? At number two seaton? You
Speaker 2: don't think that they know who they're taking? Not one? Okay,
Speaker 2: what percentage would you give me somewhere? But in the
Speaker 2: seventy five? Okay, Marvin, I'm what's seeing? Okay? There you go,
Speaker 2: we win? Okay, Well, I don't know what the other
Speaker 2: side there, Pauli and Fritzie, looks like you think the
Speaker 2: commanders know who they're taking.
Speaker 5: Yes, the first two picks are set.
Speaker 6: Four weeks from today? Is in three weeks from today,
Speaker 6: four weeks from today, four weeks?
Speaker 2: Which one is it? Todd?
Speaker 6: It would be four weeks from today.
Speaker 5: Okay, he's a draft whore.
Speaker 6: I know who you're picking.
Speaker 5: Who's more insured, Todd or the Commanders.
Speaker 2: M Todd just had a little slip up in the
Speaker 2: last hour though he misheard. He misheard where the All
Speaker 2: Star Game was going to be.
Speaker 6: And the NBA All Star Game is in fact at
Speaker 6: the Chase Center.
Speaker 2: Next year in San Francisco. But we were talking Baseball
Speaker 2: Star Game, which would be Arlington? Thank you all right?
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the numbers here. Lamar measured six two
Speaker 2: two sixteen r G three at the combine six two
Speaker 2: two twenty one. Jayden Daniels is six three and a
Speaker 2: half to ten a day. Start of a day. This
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Speaker 2: hour two is watch Seaton. Well, we got two of
Speaker 2: them up there right now. Dan, We've got.
Speaker 7: I'd most want to have a solid tenure career as
Speaker 7: a Major League baseball player, an NBA player, or an
Speaker 7: NFL player.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna guess here. Okay, now, is money the same?
Speaker 2: I don't know, is it. I think we have to
Speaker 2: have money. That's kind of the same. Now, No, I
Speaker 2: think that goes into it. Well, what position are we
Speaker 2: talking about? Oh, my gosh, because am I a quarter
Speaker 2: Am I a quarterback?
Speaker 5: It's your pick?
Speaker 8: You have you have a nice NFL career, Okay, Brad Johnson, Okay,
Speaker 8: you can.
Speaker 7: Be the greatest player in either one of these sports.
Speaker 7: You're making great money. Everything is awesome. You have a
Speaker 7: monster sneaker deal, you play in the city that you love,
Speaker 7: and the taxes aren't too high.
Speaker 2: So I'm the greatest in my sport. Whatever I want
Speaker 2: to pick.
Speaker 7: For ten years, you're gonna have a great ten year career,
Speaker 7: and in that ten years you are fantastic.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's look at average salary if we can, oh
Speaker 2: each sport?
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, average NFL salary two point eight million dollars.
Speaker 5: It's also not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm gonna be great in my sport.
Speaker 5: No, You're gonna be good in your sport.
Speaker 2: Oh, Seaton said, I can be the best in my sport.
Speaker 2: Now you're gonna go.
Speaker 5: You're gonna be good.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 5: The pole questions, say, give a nice career, a nice.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, let's get examples, though.
Speaker 7: The average salary for an NBA player is about seven
Speaker 7: million a year according to this.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's not that money. Okay, but let me get
Speaker 2: examples here. You can be what NBA player? What NFL player?
Speaker 2: And uh what NFL play and what baseball? Yeah, baseball player.
Speaker 2: So let's come up with somebody where you go.
Speaker 8: Okay, you can be Darren Sprolls, Darren a very solid
Speaker 8: running back, very popular player, not in danger, going to
Speaker 8: the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 7: The average MLB salary four point five.
Speaker 9: This is yes, Tobias Harris an NBA like a nice,
Speaker 9: solid NBA player, you guys said, good NBA player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's making thirty million dollars a year.
Speaker 6: So I'd rather be an NBA player.
Speaker 7: Yes, And Jimmy turns into a punchline walking off the field,
Speaker 7: Tobias Harris, I don't want that said about me.
Speaker 5: I don't want that.
Speaker 7: I don't I don't want Jimmy Butler to be like
Speaker 7: Tobias Harris. Really, Kelly olinok nah, I'm.
Speaker 2: Good Kelly Olinic. Okay, would you rather be Yeah, Jimmy
Speaker 2: g Kelly Olinic or m Yeah, it's Tom trying to
Speaker 2: find out.
Speaker 7: That's why if you just keep it a year veteran
Speaker 7: baseball player, basketball player, football player, that solid ten year career.
Speaker 7: All right, you're you're not a Hall of Famer. I
Speaker 7: guess you're getting rich in all of them. I'd rather
Speaker 7: be a ten year vet in the NBA. Yeah, because
Speaker 7: I'm playing indoors. I don't have to play all eighty
Speaker 7: two games because nobody does and nobody cares if I don't. Man,
Speaker 7: you're gonna make pretty good money traveling around. There's only
Speaker 7: you know, thirteen or fourteen people, fifteen people on the.
Speaker 2: Charter there stretch out a little bit. And if I'm
Speaker 2: single doing damage in each city is only cod could do?
Speaker 2: La work, Yeah, la work. Yeah. I would say I'd
Speaker 2: be a ten year veteran NBA. Anybody have a different sport,
Speaker 2: like a Kirk Heinrich type.
Speaker 8: You know, you have a nice career, You bounce, go places,
Speaker 8: you get some starts.
Speaker 2: Sure, Kirk Heinrich played a lot started. You've got a
Speaker 2: good career. Yes, Tom, I know it's a.
Speaker 10: Long season, but the fresh air baseball is to me
Speaker 10: this an appeal to that can make a lot of money,
Speaker 10: less damage for the most part, on your knees, unless
Speaker 10: you're a catcher as opposed to the other sports.
Speaker 6: I would want to be above average baseball play.
Speaker 10: If you're mess up three and a half out of
Speaker 10: fourth time, if you're successful, you know, like two and
Speaker 10: a half, two, three quarter times out of four, you're
Speaker 10: a pretty good ballplayer. You know, you're a major All
Speaker 10: starf one out of every three times you're doing something.
Speaker 2: What happens on the three quarters time that that's tough.
Speaker 6: It's tough to calculate that. But the analytics people could
Speaker 6: help you with that.
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, if you were successful three out of four
Speaker 7: times that you played, you would be by far the
Speaker 7: greatest baseball player of all TA seven fifty. If you
Speaker 7: you're a great player. If you're good three out of
Speaker 7: ten times, yeah, you're a you're a Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: I think you're numbers. Yeah, that was two and a
Speaker 2: half out of four times. You were passionate though when
Speaker 2: you said I.
Speaker 10: Was I prefer baseball, You guys will have to deal
Speaker 10: with the fact that I pick, Yeah, do you mess
Speaker 10: up set three out of four? But that would be
Speaker 10: godding seven to fifty and then you would be super
Speaker 10: human like some kind.
Speaker 2: Of road said two and three quarters successful.
Speaker 10: Because one out of every three and very few people
Speaker 10: are batting three thirty three that that's not above average.
Speaker 2: Pa, we got we got a time. And the NBA
Speaker 2: also we have the All Star Game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the NFL Draft is four weeks from two.
Speaker 2: And if you're Bonex, where you think bo Nix is
Speaker 2: next will be picked.
Speaker 6: By Bo Knicks.
Speaker 7: All Kay Knicks, Broncos Bonix would pick Bo Nicks.
Speaker 6: I bet he's got to go all in on yourself.
Speaker 6: We talk about that all.
Speaker 2: The car right, nobody's better than me? All right.
Speaker 7: We also have another poll question up there, Todd. This
Speaker 7: might be right up your alley, but would you rather
Speaker 7: play second base, shortstop, or right field?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 6: If I was very good at all those positions, I
Speaker 6: want to be short Is.
Speaker 2: This the Mookie Bets question?
Speaker 7: That's the Mookie Bets pol question. And those are the
Speaker 7: three positions that I believe that he's played.
Speaker 2: You got to play shortstop? Yeah, right now?
Speaker 7: Shortstop has thirty seven point nine percent of the vote. Yeah,
Speaker 7: nobody wants to play second base, which I'm personally offended.
Speaker 2: Second base is a great position. Yeah, I played short stop. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, you're right there. All the action.
Speaker 7: Best player on the team goes to shortened pitch. Pitch
Speaker 7: yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Paul.
Speaker 8: Right field, you're grass, you can see the fans right
Speaker 8: by you, and chitchall a little bit.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't want to part of that, really. No.
Speaker 7: Right fielders make a great salary when you're older, but
Speaker 7: when you're younger, it's where you put the worst player
Speaker 7: on the team.
Speaker 2: It used to hello, Hello. It's either a catcher when
Speaker 2: you're younger, or right field, and then you'll send the
Speaker 2: kid out there. I love watching little league, not even
Speaker 2: little league like t ball, just to see what they
Speaker 2: do and the fact that they're just out there and
Speaker 2: they have no interest in the game itself. And then
Speaker 2: a'll ball be hit and you're like skippy, and then
Speaker 2: he'll be like okay, yes, God.
Speaker 10: And in the early days of the litter league, everyone
Speaker 10: has to play at least a half a game or
Speaker 10: a couple of innings. When you know there's some kids
Speaker 10: that just do not belong out there, and I know
Speaker 10: the parents are there and everything, but you're trying to
Speaker 10: win some games and put a good roster together, and
Speaker 10: then you got to let them play all the different positions,
Speaker 10: so all the kids get a chance to try all
Speaker 10: the different spots.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Mookie Betts in his eleven year career has played outfield,
Speaker 8: right field, centerfield, second base, shortstop in DH and he's
Speaker 8: played one hundred and second base to twenty three at centerfield,
Speaker 8: and nine and seventy eight and right field, and a
Speaker 8: bonus of eighteen games at shortstep.
Speaker 5: That's impressive.
Speaker 7: Yeah, seat you are seeing the thing like where like
Speaker 7: the coach's kid is pitching, the best player is shortstop,
Speaker 7: Like the smallest kid plays second. They put each little
Speaker 7: league position, the fastest kid is centerfield, the toughest kid
Speaker 7: is catcher. It's kind of the way it all went.
Speaker 7: Do you think we're profiled a little bit? The tallest kid,
Speaker 7: you know where he plays first base?
Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah. If you're left handed, then you're usually playing
Speaker 2: first base. Definitely, Yeah, definitely. I remember playing against a
Speaker 2: guy who was a left handed catcher. That's weird, and
Speaker 2: I had never seen he got drafted by the Reds,
Speaker 2: that's weird. His name is Marlin Styles. I think he
Speaker 2: got drafted by the Reds. He was a left handed catcher,
Speaker 2: and every time he'd catch it and he'd throw the
Speaker 2: ball back at whiz right by your head. When you're
Speaker 2: at the plate. You kept thinking, if I just lean
Speaker 2: in here, he's gonna bang me right in the nogin here.
Speaker 2: All right. We didn't settle anything, I don't think there
Speaker 2: but nothing. We did waste some time. Playball, huh, playball
Speaker 2: time like baseball? All right? Christian Leytner is going to
Speaker 2: join us twenty ten, enshrined in the Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: as a member of the Dream Team. The only player
Speaker 2: from the Dream Team who hasn't been inducted into the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame individually. What is wrong with this picture?
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Speaker 2: Thirteen baseball games scheduled basketball tonight, Clemson, Arizona, San Diego State, Connecticut, Alabama,
Speaker 2: North Carolina, Illinois, Iowa State. Bama's been in the Sweet
Speaker 2: sixteen three of the last four years. You're looking at it.
Speaker 2: I said, oh, here's the playoffs. You go, Oh, that's football.
Speaker 2: Clemson's in there, Alabama's in there. Well, Yukon in there,
Speaker 2: so it wouldn't be you know, football, but Illinois, Iowa State,
Speaker 2: Arizona also in the Sweet sixteen. Games coming up tonight.
Speaker 2: I'll reiterate this. I've said this twice and let it
Speaker 2: sink in and twenty ten. Christian Laitner and shrined in
Speaker 2: the Naysmith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame, a member of
Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety two Dream Team. But Christian is the
Speaker 2: only player of that team who hasn't been inducted into
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame individually, and Christian Latner joined us
Speaker 2: on the program. Why is that.
Speaker 12: Dan?
Speaker 5: Is that you?
Speaker 2: Yes, it is Christian.
Speaker 4: It's me.
Speaker 12: I know we're looking different, you know, these days. But
Speaker 12: good to see you.
Speaker 2: Good to see you. Why aren't you in the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame for your playing career?
Speaker 4: Who knows. I don't really think about it that much.
Speaker 12: I'm in plenty of hall of fames and the one
Speaker 12: I'm may be most proud of is the Polish Hall
Speaker 12: of Fame.
Speaker 2: So I'm fine, what did you get for the Polish
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame? And is Shryzhevsky in the Polish Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame?
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm pretty sure he is. He'd better be.
Speaker 4: I think he is.
Speaker 12: I got a nice trip up to I think it
Speaker 12: was in Detroit, and we had a nice banquet and
Speaker 12: maybe a trophy or some type of metal and it
Speaker 12: was a great time. My family was able to join
Speaker 12: me because they're proud Pollocks.
Speaker 2: No, but I'm serious, why you're not in the basketball
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame Because people will have to understand it's
Speaker 2: what you did in college and or the pros, and
Speaker 2: you were one of the five or ten greatest college
Speaker 2: players of all time. Your resume shows that, and you
Speaker 2: had a sustained pro career, so I'm I'm curious. I
Speaker 2: know you might not care, but just from somebody covering
Speaker 2: the sport, you should be in the Basketball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 12: Well thanks, Dan, I appreciate you saying that. And every
Speaker 12: time you mention it, some of my friends text me
Speaker 12: and say, Dan Patrick's you know.
Speaker 4: Doing it again? And I don't. I don't commit any
Speaker 4: thought to it.
Speaker 5: Okay, don't.
Speaker 12: I don't think about it. I don't worry about it.
Speaker 12: It might happen someday and life goes on.
Speaker 2: Were you there when the Dream Team went in whenevery,
Speaker 2: you know, the twenty ten enshrinement?
Speaker 4: Yes, I was there.
Speaker 2: What was that like? How much smacked talk was going on?
Speaker 4: It was awesome. It was great to see all the
Speaker 4: guys again.
Speaker 12: I retired from the NBA in five so I went
Speaker 12: four or five years without seeing any of my old
Speaker 12: buddies or guys that I used to play against. So
Speaker 12: it was great to be there and to see everybody
Speaker 12: and to be part of that group.
Speaker 2: But you know, having so much confidence when you played
Speaker 2: at Duke and in the NBA, and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden you're around the Dream Team guys, can you
Speaker 2: be Christian Latner around those guys or did you have to,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of suppress your ego a little bit.
Speaker 12: They allowed me to be Christian Latner, but at the
Speaker 12: same time they wanted me to know and.
Speaker 4: To be and to act like a rookie. And that's
Speaker 4: what I did.
Speaker 12: And that's why in the past I've said it would
Speaker 12: have been harder for Shack or limes all Morning.
Speaker 4: To be on that team because.
Speaker 12: Maybe you gotta throw the ball to Shack a little more,
Speaker 12: and maybe Shaq doesn't accept his role as willingly as
Speaker 12: I did.
Speaker 4: I was a very good rookie. I knew my role.
Speaker 12: I loved the fact that when the media walked in,
Speaker 12: no one came to me and wanted to.
Speaker 4: Talk to me.
Speaker 12: And after practice I would just go pick up the
Speaker 12: balls and put him in the racks and pick up
Speaker 12: everyone's dirty towel and get ready for the next practice.
Speaker 12: So it was a great environment. I loved every second
Speaker 12: of it.
Speaker 4: As you know, Dan, we had a lot of success
Speaker 4: my junior and senior year at Duke.
Speaker 12: But if you had asked me what was my favorite
Speaker 12: year at Duke, I would say my freshman year, and
Speaker 12: I loved every second of playing in the NBA. But
Speaker 12: if you had asked me my favorite year, I would
Speaker 12: say my rookie year, even though we lost a lot
Speaker 12: of games. My rookie year with the Timberwolves. Like a
Speaker 12: lot of people I might, I prefer things that are
Speaker 12: brand new, things that are over my head, things where
Speaker 12: I'm just flying by the seat of my pants and
Speaker 12: I don't really know what I'm doing and I really
Speaker 12: can't control anything.
Speaker 4: So my favorite year at Duke was.
Speaker 12: My freshman year when there weren't that many expectations put
Speaker 12: on my shoulders. Or I loved every second of the
Speaker 12: Dream Team because I didn't have to score twenty points
Speaker 12: for us to win.
Speaker 4: So having no expectations is a time that I love.
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Speaker 2: a bonus bet back. But when you look at Jordan
Speaker 2: up close, when you're watching him with the Dream Team,
Speaker 2: it felt like that was the coming out party where
Speaker 2: Larry and Magic got already passed the baton to Mike
Speaker 2: and he was the best player in the game and
Speaker 2: dominating probably those pickup games. What was your first impression
Speaker 2: when you see Jordan or you're trying to guard him.
Speaker 12: My first impression of Jordan and my lasting impression of
Speaker 12: Jordan is how much effort he put forth on the
Speaker 12: defensive end. People don't talk about that enough. You know,
Speaker 12: you get on Facebook and it shows his dunks and
Speaker 12: his offensive plays. But you got to remember, I think
Speaker 12: he was first team All Defensive team, what eight, ten,
Speaker 12: twelve years.
Speaker 4: I mean, people don't stress that enough.
Speaker 12: I coach basketball nowadays, Dan with middle school and high
Speaker 12: school players, and I don't have time on the court
Speaker 12: to teach the kids defense enough. You're only practicing with
Speaker 12: them once or twice a week, and you gotta work
Speaker 12: on offensive stuff. And if you don't let them shoot
Speaker 12: three pointers, they cry, and if you don't let them
Speaker 12: do the stupid Euro step, you know, they complain and
Speaker 12: all this stuff. Well, how about some defensive drills and
Speaker 12: some defensive work. And Michael Jordan was the greatest defender also,
Speaker 12: and look at the effort Kobe Bryant put forth on
Speaker 12: the defensive end, and that's where the differences are made,
Speaker 12: the small little things in the game that make a
Speaker 12: huge difference.
Speaker 4: Playing defense hard, playing defense the right way.
Speaker 2: But are you coaching? Are you channeling Mike Skruyshewski when
Speaker 2: you're coaching these middle school kids?
Speaker 12: I am, And usually it's when I get a little
Speaker 12: too intense and a little too passionate and maybe raise
Speaker 12: my tone of voice a little bit too much, because
Speaker 12: that's what made us good at Duke or great at
Speaker 12: Duke was the intensity and the passion that coach k
Speaker 12: had every second.
Speaker 4: And that's what I loved about him so much. When
Speaker 4: I find myself being patient and I find myself not
Speaker 4: losing my patience and losing my temper a little bit,
Speaker 4: then I'm more like my father. My father coached grammar
Speaker 4: school kids, such a patient man. I love the way
Speaker 4: my dad coached. But it also feels good.
Speaker 12: To get intense and to get passionate about the game
Speaker 12: out there, and maybe raise your tone of voice a
Speaker 12: little bit and tell these kids, we gotta play harder,
Speaker 12: we got to play better, We got to play some
Speaker 12: freaking defense.
Speaker 2: You hit a fifteen foot turnaround jumper on this day
Speaker 2: giving a Duke. The overtime went over Kentucky ten for
Speaker 2: ten from the floor, ten for ten from the line,
Speaker 2: thirty one points. Anything else from that game that we
Speaker 2: may not know, because we certainly have dissected that over
Speaker 2: the years, over the decades.
Speaker 12: No, I don't think you know anything's not been spoken about.
Speaker 2: Was there any chance you weren't getting the ball on
Speaker 2: that inbounds pass?
Speaker 4: There was a chance.
Speaker 12: I think Coach k said something like, if Christian's not open,
Speaker 12: throw it to the sideline to Thomas Hill or Bobby Hurley.
Speaker 12: You would have to ask Grant because he's the one
Speaker 12: that had the ball in his hands. He was the
Speaker 12: quarterback at that time. He's the one making the ultimate decision.
Speaker 12: So you would have to ask Grant that question.
Speaker 2: And that was a harder play though than you just
Speaker 2: getting a fifteen foot jumper.
Speaker 12: Well, every play on the basketball court is difficult, especially
Speaker 12: during March Madness, especially during against Kentucky, when you're down
Speaker 12: one point and there's two point one seconds left and
Speaker 12: there's a lot of pressure and you don't want to lose,
Speaker 12: and the Duke family and the fans are gonna cry,
Speaker 12: and I mean everything will be over my career at
Speaker 12: Duke would be over.
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of pressure. But that's why you
Speaker 4: go to Duke.
Speaker 12: That's why you play in all those That's why you
Speaker 12: play in all those big games against NC State, against Carolina.
Speaker 12: You go down to Clemson where they're trying to kill you,
Speaker 12: and they're throwing heat it up quarters.
Speaker 4: At you, you know, from the from the stands, and.
Speaker 2: You justin and throwing those at you at Clemson.
Speaker 12: I swear when I was at Clemson, I got hit
Speaker 12: with a penny or a nickel and it seemed like.
Speaker 4: It was warm, Dan, I'll tell you that. But you know,
Speaker 4: you just get you get used to it.
Speaker 12: You get used to that pressure, and it's such a
Speaker 12: great feeling and it's such a great thing to still
Speaker 12: be able to perform under all that pressure.
Speaker 4: And I loved every second of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you embraced it, and you embraced being a villain too.
Speaker 4: I embrace playing for Duke.
Speaker 12: I embrace playing for a great program that had a
Speaker 12: support staff and a family and a fan base.
Speaker 2: You had to like being hated because that means you're
Speaker 2: really good or great. No.
Speaker 12: I liked representing Duke, and when you're Duke basketball and
Speaker 12: you're winning a lot of your games, and every place
Speaker 12: you go it might be the biggest game of their season,
Speaker 12: and they're going to give you your best shot. And
Speaker 12: you know it's it's hardening you. You know, it's making
Speaker 12: you a better player. That's the thing that I loved.
Speaker 2: What about expanding the tournament, there's been talk of that.
Speaker 2: Where do you stand on that?
Speaker 12: No, they gotta you know, everyone says the horses out
Speaker 12: of the barn, and I'm here to tell you.
Speaker 4: That everything's going wrong.
Speaker 12: Nil, take it away, transper portal, take it away, expanding
Speaker 12: the stupid tournament, take it away. You have to make
Speaker 12: it feel special. You have to make people earn their
Speaker 12: spot to get in the tournament. I know everything is
Speaker 12: about money, and money makes.
Speaker 4: The world go round.
Speaker 12: Everything they're doing is wrong. The nil is bad. Take
Speaker 12: it away, the transfer portal bad.
Speaker 4: Take it away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they can. It's already. It's already done, Christian.
Speaker 2: Now we have to adapt to it. Like that's the
Speaker 2: problem with it. Grown ups allow this to happen. Would
Speaker 2: you have asked for nil money at Duke.
Speaker 12: No, even though everyone says, boy Christian, you would have
Speaker 12: made a lot of money if nil was going when
Speaker 12: you were there. That's what the NBA is for. That's
Speaker 12: why there's guys in the NBA making fifty million a year.
Speaker 12: That's what you train and work hard for and the
Speaker 12: payoff comes at the end.
Speaker 2: What do people say to you when they see you
Speaker 2: outside of where you live, like at an airport? What
Speaker 2: do people say to you? Normally?
Speaker 4: Nowadays they say, can I take a picture with you?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 12: And a lot of them say I love you, and
Speaker 12: a lot of them say I hated you, but can
Speaker 12: I still take youselfie with you?
Speaker 2: You're a coach, man, I can't imagine that. By the way,
Speaker 2: Bobby Hurley is in the Polish Hall of Fame as well.
Speaker 4: Yes he should be.
Speaker 12: And Bobby's a coach and his brother Danny's a coach,
Speaker 12: And how good is that Hurley family at coaching?
Speaker 4: You know, I love watching you can play.
Speaker 12: They're an incredible team, but they don't play pick up
Speaker 12: playground basketball. They slow down when they need to, they
Speaker 12: pass ahead when they need to. I love the way
Speaker 12: U Can plays.
Speaker 1: I do too.
Speaker 2: It's old school. I mean, it's just they're not dependent
Speaker 2: on the three. Do you think Coach k would have
Speaker 2: let you guys let it fly from three point range.
Speaker 12: He would have let certain people who could shoot the
Speaker 12: three pointer shoot the three pointer. I mean, you have
Speaker 12: to be able to prove yourself in practice, and if
Speaker 12: you're making them in practice, and the coaches turned to
Speaker 12: Coach K and say, man later can shoot the three,
Speaker 12: we should let him shoot the three. Every decision Coach
Speaker 12: K made was you had to prove it in practice.
Speaker 4: So I think that's what he would have done.
Speaker 2: I asked Coach K who had more range, Caitlyn Clark
Speaker 2: or JJ Reddick. Who do you think? He said, Kaitlyn Clark, No,
Speaker 2: he said JJ Reddick. I go, no way. But he
Speaker 2: didn't take deep threes. Caitlyn takes deep threes.
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, the logo three wasn't a thing when
Speaker 12: JJ was in school. But I've seen Dennis Scott hit
Speaker 12: half court shots like he shot his and he would
Speaker 12: go out in Cameron, you know, before the game and
Speaker 12: warm ups, and our fans would be freaking cheering for tennis.
Speaker 4: Scott, and I was like, what the heck's going on?
Speaker 12: But he was out there putting on a circus show
Speaker 12: and shooting half court shots like you and I would
Speaker 12: shoot our free throw.
Speaker 2: But then, was Kenny Anderson still there?
Speaker 12: Kenny Anderson was there a year or two later. Kenny
Speaker 12: Anderson's one of the greatest point guards that I've ever
Speaker 12: played against, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well, it's great to talk to you. I
Speaker 2: hope you're doing well. Don't get kicked out of any games.
Speaker 2: Don't you know, have something go viral? You know where
Speaker 2: you're yelling in a seventh grader?
Speaker 12: Okay, I've coached about one hundred games, Dan, and I've
Speaker 12: gotten kicked out of one.
Speaker 2: What did you do to get kicked out? Did you
Speaker 2: argue a call?
Speaker 4: I might have said that word to the rep and
Speaker 4: they kicked me out.
Speaker 12: But luckily it didn't go on YouTube. It didn't go viral,
Speaker 12: so so I got away with it.
Speaker 2: If it did, Coach k would call you, he.
Speaker 4: Might, and he would say you're doing good.
Speaker 2: Good to visit with you. Thanks for joining us, Christian Okay, thanks,
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame. We're gonna get you in.
Speaker 2: Christian Laighton, two time champion, Duke and uh part of
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Speaker 7: Polish Hall of Fame is elite though it. Oh yeah,
Speaker 7: that's great, Okay, yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 8: And you only have to be half Polish Mike Suesski
Speaker 8: obviously in Christian Layner, half Polish, Bobby Hurley half Polish
Speaker 8: Mike Jaminski first ballot.
Speaker 2: Ooh g man.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: And there's Kelly Tripukadan. Oh you love him, Yes, I did,
Speaker 8: just amongst luminaries. Yeah, except for when Kelly went to
Speaker 8: the when he went to is Afro. That wasn't a
Speaker 8: good look there.
Speaker 7: Each there own.
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Speaker 2: fun to catch up with Latner. We were wondering the
Speaker 2: last great four year player, like truly great player in
Speaker 2: college basketball because Tim Duncan stayed, Grand Hill stayed, Ewing stayed.
Speaker 2: I can go back if you want to include. He's
Speaker 2: not a great player, but he was the number one
Speaker 2: overall pick. Kenyon Martin, I think all four years at Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: But the last truly great player who stayed for four years, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 8: Tim Duncan, I'm looking back, could have gone out after
Speaker 8: a sophomore or junior season and bet a top five pick.
Speaker 8: He stayed and he was ninth ninety seven. That's pretty
Speaker 8: late in the game. Yeah, as well passed the one
Speaker 8: and done here.
Speaker 2: Grant Hill, he stayed all four years. Anybody after that,
Speaker 2: where you go? That guy is great. I mean, now,
Speaker 2: it's to the point if you don't leave after your
Speaker 2: freshman year, certainly after your sophomore year, something's wrong with you.
Speaker 2: You know, like Zach Edie, you're going, well, he needs
Speaker 2: to get better. Luke Garza needed to get better. And
Speaker 2: then sometimes you'll stay. Steph Curry. You know, Steph stayed
Speaker 2: so he could work on his ball handling skills and
Speaker 2: become a point guard as opposed to his you know,
Speaker 2: shooting guard.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Paul, Right before Tim Duncan, Alan Irison did two years,
Speaker 8: Glenn Robinson did three years. It's just before Chris Weber
Speaker 8: did two years, Shack did two years. They could have
Speaker 8: to go back to Danny Manning in nineteen eighty eight,
Speaker 8: he was the number one pick. I think he played
Speaker 8: all four years Agansas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's eighty eight. I'm talking about.
Speaker 8: Nothing since, not even close. Since after him, it was
Speaker 8: Elton Brand and Kwame Brown and Yao ming Lebron James.
Speaker 8: There's nothing even close guys who stayed a long time.
Speaker 2: So who is the last great player to stay four years?
Speaker 2: Was it Tim Duncan or grand Hill who came first
Speaker 2: or last?
Speaker 7: Grand Hill's older, he is, Okay, that's tough though, that's
Speaker 7: tough to figure out.
Speaker 2: Well, how many guys do stay longer than two years
Speaker 2: if you're truly a great player. But dunk In is
Speaker 2: Duncan the last last of that generation, even staying three years.
Speaker 2: That's why you'll never have another Latner again. You just
Speaker 2: you won't because somebody of that magnitude is not going
Speaker 2: to stay four years.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: He stayed four years because he loved playing at Duke,
Speaker 2: but he was a top five pick by Minnesota. There
Speaker 2: won't be another Patrick Ewing, I mean, Tim Duncan. All
Speaker 2: these guys that stay four years, there's really no reason
Speaker 2: to stay all four years or three years or two years. Yes,
Speaker 2: marm the.
Speaker 9: Only guys that stay all four years are fringe NBA
Speaker 9: players like you know what, if you get drafted, you'd
Speaker 9: be a late first round, early second round, like the
Speaker 9: guys were talking about, Like you said, Shack and Duncan
Speaker 9: and Ewing Ralph Sampson, those guys could have gone out
Speaker 9: two years before they declared for the draft.
Speaker 2: Greg and Florida joins us. Good morning, Greg, what's on
Speaker 2: your mind? Good morning? Uh?
Speaker 1: Dan? Who do you think will have the best career
Speaker 1: out of these five guys? Jalen Brumson, Shape Gildris, Alexander,
Speaker 1: Trey Young, Tyrese Haliburton or Tyrese Maxi?
Speaker 2: Oh, well, feels like Shay Gildriss Alexander is a little
Speaker 2: tick above them. We don't talk about Trey Young that
Speaker 2: much anymore. He's still good player, good numbers. Halliburton's a
Speaker 2: lot of fun. But you know, I watched him when
Speaker 2: he was in Sacramento. But this injury and now coming
Speaker 2: back because you want to qualify with the sixty five games,
Speaker 2: he hasn't played that well. Maxie, I'd been trumpeting since
Speaker 2: he got in. I thought he was going to be
Speaker 2: an All Star two years ago. Uh who else was
Speaker 2: in there? Maxie Haliburton Trey Young, Uh, Shay Gilgis, Uh,
Speaker 2: Jalen and Bo Nicks. Thank you, Tod Jalen bruns is
Speaker 2: pretty good. Wow, I might I might put Alexander put
Speaker 2: Brunson underneath Shay Gilgis. I mean, Brunson's doing it in
Speaker 2: New York City. He's the leader of that team. I
Speaker 2: think he's surprised a lot of people that he had
Speaker 2: this this much ability to be able to score and
Speaker 2: they're they're a relevant team, they're playing well. It starts
Speaker 2: with him. That's interesting question. George and Texas. Good morning, George.
Speaker 2: What's on your mind?
Speaker 13: Hey Dan, I just wanted to ask what the sports
Speaker 13: landscape changing for the worst. In my opinion, if you
Speaker 13: could relive a sports decade, either as a reportal or
Speaker 13: just a fan, what decade would you choose?
Speaker 2: Well, I think it depends on the sport that you're covering,
Speaker 2: Because if you said I could watch baseball in the
Speaker 2: twenties with the Yankees, the Black Sox scandal, Babe Ruth,
Speaker 2: that would be pretty entertaining. I love the old AFL
Speaker 2: in the sixties, plus you had the NFL like that
Speaker 2: might be the period I'd take because the AFL a
Speaker 2: lot of their rosters were made up of African American
Speaker 2: players who were playing at historically black colleges and universities.
Speaker 2: They got a chance to play in the AFL. And
Speaker 2: I loved watching the AFL, but you you know, you
Speaker 2: kind of mirror or you compare that with the NFL
Speaker 2: in their style was pretty much run the football. Quarterback
Speaker 2: may throw it fifteen times a game. In the AFL,
Speaker 2: you were throwing the football when you have a quarterback
Speaker 2: named Darryl Lamonica whose nickname was the Mad Bomber. That's
Speaker 2: my kind of football. You had old school and you
Speaker 2: had new school. You had the ABA and the NBA,
Speaker 2: and we saw that the NBA adopted some things from
Speaker 2: the ABA. The ABA was a lot of fun. That
Speaker 2: was running gun, a lot of fun. That should have
Speaker 2: been their moto, running gun a lot of fun. And
Speaker 2: then you had the NBA, which I would love to
Speaker 2: have watched the Celtics with Russell. I never got to
Speaker 2: see him play in person, but to be able to
Speaker 2: see Red Auerbach coaching, smoking a cigar, being in the
Speaker 2: old Boston garden, that would have been fun. Watching them
Speaker 2: go against you know, Wilt Chamberlain, that would have been
Speaker 2: fun as well, so I would probably say the sixties,
Speaker 2: you know, in all sports, if you're looking at it, baseball,
Speaker 2: when I first fell in love with baseball back in
Speaker 2: the late sixties, well, mid sixties. All right, we'll take
Speaker 2: a break, last call for phone calls, Watson Store, final
Speaker 2: hour on the way. Todd's here, Seaton's here, Marvin's here,
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