1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Welcome in. It is I Want Your Flex. He is 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Mike Carmen and I'm Dan Byer. But here's the deal again. 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Because of the holidays, Happy New Year. By the way, 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Happy twenty twenty five. Mike and I got together on 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Monday night, December thirtieth, as I set in for his 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: usual co host Jason Smith on The Jason Smith Show 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: with Mike Harmon, and we chatted for about four hours, 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: but a bunch of that information was about fantasy football. 9 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: Because of doing that show, we're taking some excerpts from 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: that meeting of Mike and myself and putting them into 11 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: the I Want Your Flex podcast for this episode now. 12 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: So if it doesn't sound as normal or you don't 13 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: hear Ian Roddy chiming in with the streaming defenses, that 14 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: is the reason why. 15 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, Dan in for Jason on Monday night, we had 16 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: a great opportunity to talk about the Monday Night football game, 17 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 2: all the fantasy heroes there. We look back at Week seventeen, 18 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: Championship Week, some of the heroes and zeros, those that 19 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: led you to the Promised Land, and one interesting stat 20 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: about a player who appeared on a lot of rosters. 21 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: We also looked ahead to how to best utilize Week 22 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: eight and we tell you about what's available to you 23 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: for the actual playoffs. 24 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: And we'll be back with a whole new episode leading 25 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: into week eighteen because we understand there are some championship 26 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: games and other things at stake there, so hope you 27 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: enjoy the pod. And yeah, this is all I want 28 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: your flex. 29 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: You want experience during your football season, Well, buckle up, 30 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: sweet cheeks. We've got all the experience in the world. 31 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: This is I want your flex with Dan Bayer and 32 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: Mike Harmon. Mike and Dan break down everything you need 33 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: to set your lineups, from position rankings to starts and sits. 34 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 3: The guys help you make those hard decisions and now 35 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: let's get your flex. Ond here's Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. 36 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show 37 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: with me, Mike Harmon, Dan Byern for Jassmith. We're live 38 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 2: from the tire Rack dot Com Studios. Moving the ball again, 39 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: down six, a missfield goal on their end and a 40 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: made field goal for the Lions, so the lead is 41 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: extended to six. Coming up on the midpoint of your 42 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: fourth quarter. Here Monday Night Football. It's only you know, 43 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: sixteen and a half more games, Dan. 44 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: I know Mike's cutting him down like the calendar with 45 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: some rotten piece. So the door came up empty for 46 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 1: brock Purdy another interception. 47 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: He got skunk with a trading card calendar there. 48 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: Which is good for Steve De Sager, who again is 49 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: like many sweating out a fantasy performance and Juwan Jennings 50 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: stays out of the end zone. But the flip side 51 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: of that coin, Mike Carman, is that the forty nine 52 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: ers will still have to keep throwing after this possession, 53 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: which goes against Steve de Sager. So some way that watch. 54 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: That David Montgomery would be really huge right now, right, 55 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: get Old Knuckles back up in there, but no, he's 56 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: not available. Jamiar Gibbs having himself from a fantastic game. 57 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: So you were talking about a little bit earlier. We'll 58 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: get the fantasy notes and nuggets from from this game 59 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 2: as it concludes, Dan, But you know, for weeks week seventeen, 60 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: the mixed bag because you suddenly had a bunch of 61 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: star players. We did the I Watch a Flex podcast 62 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 2: leading into the week, and we had the caveat a 63 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 2: ton of the players going well they're saying he's going 64 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: to try to play right and then ultimately no to 65 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: a tongue of iloa. No, Jalen hurts and think Kenny 66 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: Pickett gets hurt. So even if you'd gone that route, 67 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: that didn't help you. And all of a sudden we 68 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: got McKee and I'm watching the trading card market of 69 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: Tanner McKee w go flying. People getting hundreds of dollars 70 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: for cards said they could have they would have sold 71 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: for a dollar fifty if someone would have taken it. 72 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: They're getting more than the fan got for catching the 73 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: ball that AJ Brown threw into the stands. 74 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have held out for more. 75 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 76 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: Again, once again people getting screwed. And these age the 77 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: Dodgers did it. Remember when they strong armed the folks 78 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: with the show Hao Tani deal. That was bad business. 79 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: And then you know, I'll here you get a jersey. Yeah, 80 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: keep it coming. 81 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: And someone said so on did you see? Someone said 82 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: and a paycheck and AJ Brown tweeted it that's pretty good. Yeah, 83 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. 84 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: Well, I mean it depends whose paycheck it is. How 85 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 2: about that? But when we look at the finals from 86 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: from week seventeen, and for many people. The year's long 87 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: been over and now they're just interested observers maybe hate 88 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: watching certain players and circumstances because of who's in the 89 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: driver's seat in their respective leagues. Maybe maybe you've got 90 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 2: that situation you just don't want somebody to win. But 91 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: we watched over the course of the weekend all those 92 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: injuries flow up and some no show efforts along the 93 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: way as well by a number of teams, where hey, man, 94 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: it's that time of year. I already saw the movement saying, hey, 95 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: let's move championship week to week sixteen. 96 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: Well, I'll say this, for at least of the showing up. 97 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: I've been someone who's head stocking T Higgins forever and 98 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 1: for the last couple of years have had T Higgins 99 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: on my teams and it has not come through. And 100 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: of course, for that reason, I'm not in any championship games. 101 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: But what do you know, and you mentioned our podcast, 102 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: Mike I said, within the last two weeks, this Chase 103 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: Higgins deal in Cincinnati is not Holton Bruce in Saint Louis, 104 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: it's not Harrison and Wayne in Indianapolis. It's Jamar Chase's 105 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: number one, and T Higgins is somewhere along there on 106 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: what do you know, the hat trick on Saturday to 107 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: propel anybody that may have had T Higgins in their 108 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: championship game. 109 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: Just an insane performance, right, that was a dandy to watch, 110 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: But again owing to the fantasy endgame for it, you know, 111 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: Chase still got his nineteen points, but you didn't get 112 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: any of the glory touches correct as it were, right, Indianapolis, 113 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: no shows in a big spot, but Jonathan Taylor gave 114 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: you big points once again, as we pointed out, like 115 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: she looked at my scorecard a little bit in terms 116 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: of hits and misses. That we were on board there 117 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: as well. But the curiosity, you know, for some of 118 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: the would be heroes, you're left holding Cole several days 119 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: after Christmas. 120 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: Earlier this season we complained about a lack of points. 121 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: There were a bunch of points scored in week seventeen 122 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: to make up for. 123 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: It, certainly Baltimore and Los Angeles and so many others 124 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: that we had a blast watching it. Come to fruition, 125 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 2: we'll get more into the specifics of the point totals, 126 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: but coming up next we talk Bowl season Bowl takeaways. 127 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 2: Oh and that whole cam Ward Thing. Hey, welcome back 128 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: in It's Foxmor's Radio, Jason Smit Show with Me, Mike Harman, 129 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 2: No Jason Smith to Night in His Stead by Guy 130 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: Dan Byer, The Eye Watcher Flex Podcast where you hear 131 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: us together. Wherever you get your fine audio, download it, 132 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 2: give it five stars, rate review it, bookmarket, send it 133 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: to your friends and family. Always a nice gift. The 134 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app as well. For all of the content you 135 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: get here at Fox Sports Radio, all the music, all 136 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: the podcast, all of that fun stuff. We appreciate you 137 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: being part of the extended family. Happy holidays, whatever it is, 138 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: however you celebrate. You're up and moving today. So I 139 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: think that's worthy of a victory lap as well. Not 140 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: quite the victory lap that Steve de Seger is gonna 141 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: take coming out of his fantasy title Dan Bamp, but 142 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: he's gonna lord that over all of us too. I'm 143 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: gonna make him. 144 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: A cape so the only league he does as well, 145 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: I believe. 146 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: How about that one for one? Yes, mister perfect from 147 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: the late great Kurt Hennie makes it that much sweeter. 148 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: How about that? No question about it. Week eighteen of 149 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: the National Football League season. Every year it's the consternation 150 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: because we're gonna put on our fantasy hats here for 151 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: a few minutes of whether to you whether to punt it. 152 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: Certainly after the games of Week seventeen, many quote meaningless 153 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: games right that we're on the schedule, And that's just 154 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,119 Speaker 2: the nature of the beast. The haves that have nots 155 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: that we have in the league. Parody is a four 156 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: letter word, at least for the twenty twenty four season. 157 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: So you had a lot of games that had fantasy implications, 158 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: but certainly the teams playing in them had maybe nothing 159 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: to play for. Maybe you would talk about playing for 160 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 2: draft status. Well that didn't work because those teams actually 161 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: went out and played well and won. I'm looking at 162 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: you Giants and Raiders. But all of that to say, 163 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: I want to use every game we can, and it's 164 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: Mike cliche two seventy two. They go away, and then 165 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: you're even gonna lament not having a six to three 166 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 2: Bears Seahawks affair to watch by time spring training comes around. 167 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: I am not there with you. A lot of times 168 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: we will agree on things. I am punt on Week eighteen. 169 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: If there are no playoff implications for your favorite team, 170 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: do not go down the rabbit hole of figuring out 171 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: a way to gamble or do fantasy on it. To me, Mike, 172 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: save that for the postseason. You can figure out a 173 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: way to still be competitive or to have fun in 174 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: the playoffs in some sort of playoff format. It'll take 175 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: you all the way. It's almost mid February now, so 176 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 1: just use it as a break, especially after the holidays 177 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: which have been crazy, and you've had a week where 178 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: you've had five days of football. Just take a breather 179 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: in Week eighteen. That's what I think it's all about. 180 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: Week eighteen again my least favorite week of the NFL season. 181 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it, because it just half the 182 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: games don't matter, and I think that you should take 183 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: a break as well. 184 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 2: That's the beauty of the chaos of it for me, Dan, 185 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: is that we have no idea who's playing, who's in, 186 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: who's out, and yes, to the point of what you've 187 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: done for a full season could be a sabotage situation, 188 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: which is why it shouldn't be a standalone championship if 189 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: you're going to wrangle it into your league. But maybe 190 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: you do it for draft status, right for the draft. 191 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: Maybe you do it as a one week contest for 192 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: whatever there is prize money. 193 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: League that's Steve won. There is a week eighteen contest 194 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: as well for high points. But then you're trying to 195 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: pick up all the guys that are you think are 196 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: gonna be. 197 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: But the waiver wire comes back into play at least 198 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: for a week now. The other thing I wanted to 199 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: discuss is that we talk about the playoffs themselves. Right, 200 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 2: We've long held opportunities to draft and play it out 201 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: as a normal season. Well, our favorite type of league 202 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,359 Speaker 2: now is available in the playoffs. 203 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: I was surprised. I didn't even realize this. 204 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: The guillotine has been added. Our guy Paul charch In 205 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: there back in Minnesota. He's made some business dealings Matt 206 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: Berry and his company and everything else, so they've got, 207 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: you know, their their arms wrapped around it. But he 208 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 2: put up on Twitter that guillotine leagues are arriving for 209 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: this playoff. 210 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: I am curious on how it works because there's only 211 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: four weeks of play and there's a limited amount of teams. 212 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: But if you can figure out a way, as I've 213 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: told you what we do with my fantasy football league 214 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: is we have our guys, just take the fourteen playoff 215 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: teams and you fill out a lineup with one player 216 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: from each team with a quarterback, four running backs, four 217 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: receivers or tight ends, and then four receivers, two tight ends, 218 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: and then defense and kicker and whoever is the most 219 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: points at the end. So what it is is it's 220 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of all right, this is who I 221 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: think is going to do well, but it's also this 222 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: is who I think it's going to advance. Yes, so 223 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: you're putting in both of your prediction methods on if 224 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: you think a team's going to go to a super Bowl, 225 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: you maybe want to have the quarterback of that team, 226 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: so that would be your quarterback. So maybe if you 227 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: like the Ravens upset the Chiefs, you're gonna take Lamar 228 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: Jackson in that scenario because you think the Raven's gonna 229 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: have a nice long run and it would make a 230 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: lot of sense to do that, Whereas maybe you would 231 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: leave somebody off to this if you think they're gonna 232 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: get upset. Maybe if the Lions are a top seed, 233 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna play one less game, maybe get upsets. So 234 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: maybe Jared Goff isn't the best all of those decisions 235 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: coming into play. 236 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: No, that's the media of it, right. We try to 237 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: blend the worlds as best we can. Confidence points in 238 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 2: your pick sets or or always against the spread. I 239 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: remember once upon a time folks wanted to do nothing 240 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: but straight up picking. Guess what, this year was actually 241 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: easier to pick against the spread, at least it was 242 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: for me. Then it was picking straight up. The way 243 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: things worked out even if we didn't have the catastrophes 244 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: that folks, uh point you, No, No, there were plenty 245 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: of blips on the radar of crazy ass upsets. Go 246 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: back and look at who the Raiders actually beat this year. 247 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 2: Go back and look at some of the sellar dwellers 248 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: and the number and the teams that they actually scored 249 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: their wins against. They rose up against some of the heavyweights. 250 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: Well, and that's you know, the flip set of it. 251 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: It was us talking about the Commanders earlier, but yeah, 252 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: you do have those those sort of like wow, look 253 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: at the wins like this. Honestly, like the Seahawks, the 254 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: Seahawks have only themselves to blame for not making any 255 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: of the playoffs, even though I'd like to blame the refs. 256 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: On Saturday night for not reviewing that interception call a 257 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: little bit longer. They lost to the Giants, Mike in 258 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: a home game. You know, they had a field goal 259 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: block that they were trying to tie it in. Again 260 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: that really they had no business being in any way 261 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: because of how poorly they played. But yeah, there are 262 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: those situations where even even the better teams. You know, 263 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: the Giants were miserable this year, but hey, they're winning. 264 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: Seattle kept the Seahawks out of the postseason the. 265 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: Old any given Sunday rule. All I'm trying to say is, 266 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: you got plenty of football ahead of you. If fantasy 267 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: is what you're doing daily, daily fantasy will certainly be 268 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 2: out there from the different providers, certainly the prize picks 269 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: and fan duels and DraftKings and everybody in the world. 270 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 2: They've got their different permutations to it. But if you're 271 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: in a long established league, maybe you've got something that 272 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: you've stumbled upon that works for you. Please let us know. 273 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: Maybe it's something like the Pete fu Tech fantasy football 274 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: leagues going all the way back to nineteen eighty seven, 275 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: where you're still pen and paper and you refuse to yield. 276 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: Our fantasy league that I played with my cousins when 277 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: I was younger. Is on the printer that goes. 278 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: The best? 279 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: Then you. 280 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: And then you had had to tear it off the 281 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: rip off, Yes, yes, that was the printer. 282 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: You guess what you're getting for Christmas next year? And 283 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: a ream of paper to go with. Yeah, he's Dan 284 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: Bayer on Mike Carmen Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show 285 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: with Me Mike Carmen. All right, let's go in through 286 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: a couple of the heroes and zero's coming out of 287 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:50,359 Speaker 2: week seventeen. Uh, because we had just vastly different experiences 288 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: for fantasy owners, right, whether you're starting quarterback was suddenly 289 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: on the shelf with your Anthony Richardson late sit down 290 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: to uh, Jalen Hurts whatever. Looking at the quarterback position, 291 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: you know most of the usual suspects were up there. 292 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: Brock Perty gave you a huge game before he got hurt, 293 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: but Burrow, Baker, Jaden Daniels were all top five guys, oh, 294 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: as well as Drew Locke. Yes, so you got yourself 295 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: a nice little surprise there. Conversely, Jordan loved Michael Pennix, 296 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford twenty two to twenty five and twenty seven respectively. 297 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: And I would even say to the effect of Josh 298 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: Allen unfortunately was a disappointment. Yeah, compared to the other 299 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: quarterback numbers that you saw. Now, if Josh Allen's gonna 300 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: have three total touchdowns, are thinking, all right, I should 301 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: be good. But yeah, with Baker throwing for his five 302 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: and the other names that you mentioned, Josh Allen fell 303 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: down on the list. 304 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: More Bjeon Robinson again owing to what Michael Pennix's scores were. 305 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: So you know, you take the good, you take the bad. 306 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: For b John Robinson, that's five straight monster games to 307 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: close out the fantasy run for you. Jamiir Gibbs, here's 308 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: the stat that was up on ESPN thirty seven point 309 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: eight percent. That's how the percentage of rosters in championship 310 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: games were one of the team or the other had 311 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: Jamier Gibbs. Oh interesting, curious to go deep, deep dive 312 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: into more players, but that was the one that stood 313 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: out obviously because they were the Monday NYE game, so 314 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: that was the showcase one. But nearly thirty eight percent. 315 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: I would also think, I'm curious on what his average 316 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: draft spot was to start the year. But because you 317 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: a first. Is that a late first, early second? So 318 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: you're cashing in in that realm because anybody that took 319 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey number one is probably not playing in their 320 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: fantasy championship game. And let's be real, if you had 321 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill as a as a top five pick in 322 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: a PPR league, you are not probably playing in your 323 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: championship game because you were and not that first round 324 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: picks make everything. It's just the point of Gibbs probably 325 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: cashed in, and then the second round pick that you 326 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: had probably cashed in just as much. 327 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: Now off of football, guys, h the ADP for Gibbs 328 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: was thirteenth. So let's run through it real quick because 329 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: this was fun, fun exercise. We'll do this more next 330 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: week as we wrap up the season in total on 331 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: the I Watch Flex podcast. But McCaffrey, Ceedee Lamb, Tyreek Hill, Jamar, 332 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: Chase Breese Hall Yep Crushing by Jehan Robinson, I'm on 333 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 2: Ross Ain Brown, Justin Jefferson, AJ Brown, Garrett Wilson, Jonathan Taylor, Barkley, Okay, 334 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: Jamier Gibbs, now Taylor, at least the weeks that mattered, 335 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 2: like really mattered, as long as it didn't torpeer you 336 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: in the first So that's the question, right, did did 337 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 2: his early struggles cost you enough to where he wasn't 338 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: playing meaningful football for you at the end? 339 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: I think that happened to a lot of. 340 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: Probably to a lot of because it changed your strategy 341 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 2: going forward. Gibbs was thirteenth Poka Nakua and then number 342 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 2: fifteen Marvin Harrison Junior. 343 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I I took that forbidden fruit. 344 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we all took a bite. Yeah. Last 345 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: week seventeen kind of fails with aj Brown based on expectations. 346 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 2: Obviously Hurts leaving the game and picket slash McKee h 347 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: Chan was a bust. And you know you got the 348 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 2: surprise huge game out of Eleak Neighbors, who we were 349 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 2: questioning whether he was going to play when you and 350 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: I spoke Thursday night. 351 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: So Ian Roddy Ore, executive producer of our podcast Head 352 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: Raiders as a streaming ded that ended up hitting Pooka 353 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: Nicole was my oasis song for they didn't get into 354 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: the end zone. Had a bunch of catches, yeah, over 355 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty yards as well, but just didn't 356 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: get it into the end zone. 357 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 2: Now, had we had a pretty pretty good run here. 358 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: And at least Trey McBride finally came through for those 359 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: road him and his scoreless is no touchdown season finally 360 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: scores in week seventeen. If only he had two touchdowns 361 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: on Week seventeen, Mike, I'd be a much happier camp. 362 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 2: No question about it. At dan Byer on Fox where 363 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: you find and find me over at Swollen Dome Dan 364 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: Byer in for Jason Smith. I'll buy Carmen here in 365 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: the tire IRAQ dot Com. Fox Sports Radio Studios. Let's 366 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 2: talk some college football playoffs next here on Fox. Hey, 367 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with me, 368 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: Mike Carmon Dan Byer in for Jason Smith. Appreciate him. 369 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 2: The iWatch Reflex Podcast will be up our guys, Shay 370 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: taking care of things with Ian the masterminds of the 371 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: digital tracks, along with our guy Alex ty Shirt, who's 372 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 2: made a sound oh so pretty tonight. Thank you to 373 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: the team. As always, we appreciate you guys. Hopefully you 374 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: feel the love here as we're at the holiday holiday 375 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 2: holiday season, because I can get to go go back 376 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: to calling you dirty rotten. So and so's in about 377 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 2: forty eight hours, right, Isn't that the way that works? 378 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: But anyway, we're getting ready for the college football playoffs. 379 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 2: The next round of things are finally here. 380 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: Dan. 381 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: It seems like it's been the you know, the waiting 382 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 2: is the hardest part. Was the old petty line. The 383 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: waiting game sucks. Let's play hungry, hungary hippo's of famous 384 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 2: Homer simpsonism. But we get a number of bowl games tomorrow, 385 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: starting with Alabama Michigan right and early live from Raymond 386 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: James Stadium in Tampa, Florida, where you've got a twelve 387 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: and a half point Alabama favorite status here forty four 388 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 2: and a half your total. Louisville Washington will play South Carolina, Illinois, Baylor, LSU, 389 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: and then finally, ultimately we get to Penn State Boise State. 390 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 2: Eleven and a half is the line, fifty three and 391 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 2: a half the total. We talked with Pete fu Tech 392 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: earlier in the program and trying to figure out where, 393 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: how and why you can potentially spring an upset here 394 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: against James Franklin and Penn State. 395 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: I don't see it happening, but I do want to 396 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: say one thing before we dive into the quarterfinals. Because 397 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: we touched earlier on the show about you were mad 398 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: at people and who are saying that the NFL has 399 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: been bad. And I've heard that people are mad that 400 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: the Bowl games don't have the same feel as they 401 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: once did. And I loved Bowl games forever, Mike. I 402 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: have not watched any. It is no interest to me. 403 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: So you would think I would be mad because they're 404 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: not interesting. But guess what, We're going to have eleven 405 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: games that are interesting. We've had four of them and 406 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: now we're going to have seven more, including starting tomorrow 407 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: night with Penn State in Boise State, and that, to 408 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: me is the win. I don't care about the other bulls. 409 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: I just don't. And that's the way it's going to be. 410 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: But more meaningful football actually has been made because of 411 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: the playoffs. I've just heard people complain of, Oh, it's 412 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: ruined the Bulls. Well, the Bulls have been ruined for 413 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: how long? Right, I mean at least at some point. 414 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: I've hung on to the Rose Bowl and people have 415 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: said to me the Rose Bowl has been dead for years. Yeah, 416 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: but I. 417 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: Would say this, right, each of the bulls had meaning 418 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: to wherever your conference was, to whatever your team was 419 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: and beyond that, did you worry about the other forty games? 420 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 3: Oh? 421 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 2: No, no, you didn't. You watched him, Like if you're 422 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: a disease college football fan like you and I, and 423 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 2: this year it's a little different. And I don't think 424 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 2: it's because of the changes of nil or whatever. I don't. 425 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 2: I think it's the glut. There's a lot of stuff 426 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 2: going on, and you compartmentalize and you go back and 427 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: tap into what really is your most passionate thing, or 428 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: in our case, the thing you're going to talk about 429 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: most Yeah, yep, right, instead of trying to track twenty 430 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: five hundred guys in a transfer portal. Yeah, as to 431 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 2: who's showing up and who's not. 432 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: And I know that maybe not everybody's is locked in 433 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: on to the teams college football, and so I'm not 434 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: as well. But I think we're gonna be watching the 435 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: Festa bal on Tuesday night, and we're gonna be watching 436 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: that triple header, no doubt on New Year's Day. So 437 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: that that's a that's a win for me. 438 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: Very excited the next couple of days, A lot of 439 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 2: football to watch. Uh, you see an upset coming out 440 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 2: of any of these four games? 441 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: I do think Notre Dame can beat Georgia. But his 442 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: fetech said, what's really an upset? And I just think 443 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: not talking about Oregon is a dangerous thing. They're the underdog, 444 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: but there's still number one. I think that's. 445 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: Getting It's got a hide and plain sight the entire time, right, Yeah, 446 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 2: but Gunner Stockton has the opportunity to make his name. 447 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 2: He's Dan, I'm Mike. Thanks for hanging out with us 448 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 2: and enjoying the games. Happy New Year to y'all.