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Speaker 1: It's twenty six degrees in Jacksonville, Florida, five in Bristol

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Speaker 1: two and dunk gannon. This is teal Talk. I'm Jay

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Speaker 1: Lawrence again. If it's the first time you've ever listened,

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Speaker 1: no relation. He's Key Ramsara and this is the official

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Speaker 1: podcast for the Jacksonville Jankuars in the UK and Ireland.

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Speaker 1: This is bye week.

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Speaker 2: The bye week.

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Speaker 1: Addition a chance to regroup, refresh. Essentially, it is a

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Speaker 1: spa week.

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Speaker 2: Key.

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Speaker 1: It is a time to get a nice massage aromatherapy.

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Speaker 1: Are you feeling relaxed? Key, Oh, I am.

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Speaker 3: And you put on a lovely voice to say all

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Speaker 3: of that as well to me.

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Speaker 1: I try. Do you know who's probably.

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Speaker 3: People will be falling asleep on the tube listen.

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Speaker 1: Well, do you know what? We kind of need it actually?

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Speaker 1: To be honest with you after that game against Detroit,

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Speaker 1: to be honest, I mean, I don't know how much

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Speaker 1: you talk about it, O Ky.

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Speaker 3: Do we just say worst loss in franchise history and

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Speaker 3: move on?

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Speaker 1: Dude, We'll talk about her a little bit, but it

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Speaker 1: is a it is a yeah, it is yeah, things

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Speaker 1: are not going so well on the field. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about it. Also A lot of bigger picture stuff actually

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Speaker 1: on the show today as well, positive inroads into UK

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Speaker 1: participation in flag football. I love flag football, Key, And

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Speaker 1: what I'm really excited about is it is going to

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Speaker 1: be at the Olympics as well. So we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about that. The Jags are making in roads, I

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Speaker 1: suppose with UK grassroots manager and Jags die hard Andy

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Speaker 1: Scott's going to join us today, while UK super fan

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Speaker 1: Molly is along with the Big Question. Her Big question

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Speaker 1: is maybe the best yet, Key, It is the toughest

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Speaker 1: to answer, and more importantly, it's the one that I

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Speaker 1: think is going to be on most Jagged fans minds

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Speaker 1: at the moment, don't you think, Key.

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Speaker 3: It's the question that needed to be asked at the

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Speaker 3: latest at this stage. So I'm really glad that Molly

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Speaker 3: has brought it to the table.

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Speaker 1: And you know them both, an't you, Key?

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Speaker 3: I do? I know Andy and Molly. I'll put it

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Speaker 3: this way. One of them has excellent facial hair.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, all right, fine, okay, let's just put a

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Speaker 1: cap on that Detroit game. We'll discuss it quickly and

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Speaker 1: then we'll just you know, put a bow on it.

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Speaker 1: Because we've come become used in narrow defeats. This one

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Speaker 1: was anything but I mean there's been a couple of blowouts,

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Speaker 1: hasn't there Like earlier in the season against the Bills,

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Speaker 1: wasn't it? And this one against the Lions. Yeah. Bucky

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Speaker 1: Brooks on the Jag Social channel said that they looked

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Speaker 1: discouraged very early in the game. They knew they couldn't

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Speaker 1: compete against a heavyweight team in the Lions. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we do have to say that Detroit Lions are potentially

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Speaker 1: the favorites to win the Super Bowl this season. But

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Speaker 1: still Bucky picking up on the coach Coach Peterson as well,

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Speaker 1: saying that, you know, they look tired. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: essentially a moment where we are thankful for the bye week.

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Speaker 1: And not only are we thankful for the bye week,

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Speaker 1: I think the team are thankful for the bye week.

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Speaker 1: I think the coach is thankful for the bye week

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 3: Key yeah know, I think it was on Monday said

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Speaker 3: the byeweakers come at the right time. Let's hope that

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Speaker 3: all jokes aside, that they can regroup and that they

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Speaker 3: can refresh. And I'm not saying by any means now,

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Speaker 3: mathematically there's still a chance, but they also will finish

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Speaker 3: with a negative record no matter what. I'm not saying

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Speaker 3: that they're going to make a run. I'm not saying

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Speaker 3: that anything is going to happen. But what you do

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Speaker 3: want to see is you do want to see a

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Speaker 3: team that isn't giving up, and you do want to

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Speaker 3: see a team that comes back trying to compete and

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Speaker 3: trying to make the most of the rest of this season,

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Speaker 3: even if it's not for this season, even if it's

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Speaker 3: just for the future of the franchise.

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Speaker 1: Well, the last couple of games, obviously Mac Jones Jacksonville Nate.

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Speaker 1: If Mac Jones has been starting because of Trevor Lawrence's injury,

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Speaker 1: do we like look back at it now and just think, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, these games were close. Maybe Trevor Lawrence wasn't

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Speaker 1: quite getting the appreciation maybe that he deserved. Maybe he

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Speaker 3: I read something online this week that was talking about

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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence potentially being the most underrated player in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: not just QB, but underrated player in the NFL. I

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Speaker 3: don't know where I stand on that, but I do

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Speaker 3: think he's certainly obviously makes a massive difference to this franchise,

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Speaker 3: even if that is just keeping them competitive against really

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Speaker 3: tough opponents, which is what the Jags have had this season.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not professional shoulder injury physiotherapist, as you know, Jay,

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Speaker 3: but let's hope that he gets what he needs and

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Speaker 3: can come back to the team when the time is right,

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Speaker 3: because I don't think we should be rushing this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we spoke at length in we last week

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Speaker 1: rest of the season. I feel like we do have

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Speaker 1: to mention, you know, maybe the elephant in the room

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Speaker 1: a little bit key. There were rumors this week and

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Speaker 1: potentially fans would have been reading about some coaching changes.

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Speaker 1: Whilst it's no doubt that the team hasn't been performing

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Speaker 1: up to what a lot of Jaguars fans and indeed

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Speaker 1: the players and the coaching staff would have expected them,

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Speaker 1: you know, to be playing, I don't really know quite

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Speaker 1: what would be the big positive in changing the coaching

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Speaker 3: No, I agree, I completely agree. We actually said we

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Speaker 3: said it last week. Jay and I spoke to JP

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Speaker 3: on Monday and he said the same thing. What is

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Speaker 3: the benefit of changing any of the higher ups right now?

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Speaker 3: What does that achieve? What you do is you focus

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Speaker 3: on what you're doing well, you try and amplify that,

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Speaker 3: and you try and finish the season well, and then

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Speaker 3: at the end of the season it's potential for clean

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Speaker 3: positives and try and amplify them. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that there's there's definite reasons to get

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Speaker 1: you know, in season, and one of those reasons is

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Speaker 1: if it's a toxic environment and that we have seen

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Speaker 1: instances over before exactly. Yeah, you know there are instances

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Speaker 3: For me, it's slightly different with the Packers game and

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Speaker 3: the Eagles game because you have Trevor Lawrence playing in

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Speaker 3: those against two good teams and they're competitive. But like

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Speaker 3: you look at what's happening on the field right now,

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Speaker 3: Mac Jones is not playing well.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars offense in the last eight quarters without Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: twenty first downs, three hundred and thirteen total yards, thirteen points. Okay, wow,

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Speaker 1: the Lions at halftime in the game against the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: nineteen first downs, three hundred and six total yards, twenty

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Speaker 1: eight points. Making a point there that this team is

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Speaker 1: missing Trevor Lawrence. It's a weird thing, isn't it? In

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Speaker 1: reality because this team hasn't got their franchise quarterback in

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Speaker 1: a weird way. It just proves how much they need him.

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Speaker 1: It kind of proves the doubters. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it proves the downs was wrong, but it is just

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Speaker 3: Do you know what says it to me is like, right,

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Speaker 3: let's look at the Eagles game the end of the

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Speaker 3: Eagles game, right Trevor through that interception, Jags lose the game.

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Speaker 3: But the difference is Trevor got us into that position. Yes,

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Speaker 3: he made a bad throw, but he got us into

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Speaker 3: that position. Mac Jones is not getting us into that position.

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Speaker 1: I know that Detroit Lions did beat the Jacksonville Jankuars

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Speaker 1: I think, I just want to speak for football fans

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Speaker 1: in general. I do really hope that they get to

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl. I think I think that, you know,

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Speaker 1: Detroit as a team and as a city, they never

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Speaker 1: having got a Super Bowl. They've been bad for so long.

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Speaker 1: I know that they beat the Jags heavily.

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Speaker 3: But it's a really good good story for the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is, you know. And the Buffalo Bills and

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Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions are two of the teams that obviously

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Speaker 1: beat the Janquars well this year, but both of those

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Speaker 1: Those two in a super Bowl would be kind of fantastic,

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Speaker 3: See Kansas City in the super Bowl again, I don't

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Speaker 3: mind who it is.

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Speaker 1: Did you see this guy, and we're not gonna don't

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Speaker 1: cave for Christmas. Right, So you walk in Christmas Jags

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Speaker 1: decorations and the whole thing is just filled with Jags gear.

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Speaker 1: And this is if you're a Jags fan. This is

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Speaker 1: like your dream at Christmas dream? Have you seen it? Key,

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Speaker 1: It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: It's spectacular, isn't it. It's really good. You know what,

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Speaker 3: It's it's very like that is dedication.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, get on over to YouTube. If you haven't seen

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Speaker 1: this and you can watch it. You can watch us

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. Let's not forget. You can watch this whole

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Speaker 1: episode on YouTube as well. Go subscribe because I really

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Speaker 1: like a Sunday afternoon, endeavor. Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: This is like, No, it's taken weeks, not just of

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Speaker 3: actually physically doing it, but the planning behind it as well.

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Speaker 1: Okay, bit of positivity in that the semi finalists for

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fames Class of twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: has been announced and it features two former Jacksonville Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Tory Holt, the wide receiver who played for the Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: Jaguars back in two thousand and nine, and of course

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Speaker 1: a man who has got to the semi finals six times,

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Speaker 1: Fred Taylor for the running back. Of course, you know, potentially,

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Speaker 1: you know, the JAG's best ever running back who played

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Speaker 1: for the Jags ninety eight to two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 1: Is this his year? Key? I act like you've got

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Speaker 1: any say over it?

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Speaker 3: Well, I've been debating with the rest of the team. Yes,

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Speaker 3: it is his year. I hope it is. Do you

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Speaker 3: know what I was thinking about? I used to do

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Speaker 3: this thing with players that was called the blitz, right,

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Speaker 3: and it was a minute to answer as many questions

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Speaker 3: as you can, And two of the questions was what's

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Speaker 1: Hashtag fingers cross for Fred was WEIRDI exactly? Social media? Key,

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Speaker 3: That was beautiful, Andy, what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, we always do.

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Speaker 2: It's the start and a headline that we're really proud of.

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Speaker 2: We're trying to get kids playing our sport, and then

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Union Jack's Foundation was officially launched in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three, although we piloted it in twenty twenty. Foundation's

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Speaker 2: objective is to work with underserved communities and really give

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Speaker 2: back through the medium sport essentially, So we have multiple

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Speaker 2: programs that we run underneath the foundation, Umbrella flag football programs,

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Speaker 2: all girls programs, and just some kind of academic programming

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Speaker 2: as well, and it's a really good way for us

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Speaker 2: to connect back directly to the community, for us to

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Speaker 2: work with partners such as Sport England and charitable organizations.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, the work that we're doing at the moment

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Speaker 2: is really good and I'm really excited about what that

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Speaker 2: can look like in the future.

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Speaker 1: And in Northern Ireland as well.

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Speaker 2: The programming in Northern Ireland that we're doing at the

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Speaker 2: moment is really centering around our jag Tag. It's one

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Speaker 2: of two areas where we're really strong with the all

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Speaker 2: girls program as well, so all female jag Tag, and

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Speaker 2: the beauty of that part of the program is that

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Speaker 2: they also empower young leaders, so we're actually having girls

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Speaker 2: that are seventeen eighteen kind of teaching girls that are

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Speaker 2: eleven twelve years old, which again is such a good

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Speaker 2: product for the growth of the sport, bringing on the

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Speaker 2: next generation.

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Speaker 1: So there's a part of me that's like this is

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Speaker 1: great for kids, but I'm quite jealous, to be honest

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Speaker 1: with you, Can I play.

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Speaker 4: Would be a tiny bit too old?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not a tiny bit too old, but there

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Speaker 1: is there may be another way as a key point.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we could bring you up as a coach.

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Speaker 1: Potentially, there we go, Will I get to be a

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Speaker 1: coach of the Olympics? So Andy?

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Speaker 3: So, Andy has clearly modeled himself on coach Nielsen. So

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Speaker 3: which coach would you model.

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Speaker 1: With a mustache? Of course? Which, Oh, that's a really

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Speaker 1: good that's a really good question. Key Bill Belichick, I

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Speaker 1: feel like I have the same what's wrong with Bill Belichick?

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Speaker 3: Two words at a time, And that's what.

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Speaker 1: He's actually very good at the media.

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Speaker 3: Now did you see him on the roast of Tom Brady?

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Speaker 1: No? I did not.

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Speaker 3: He was so good. He was so good, really funny

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Speaker 3: and very surprising.

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Speaker 1: Andy, thank you so much for joining us today. Just

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Speaker 1: answer this next question. What is next then for Jagtager?

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Speaker 1: How can people get involved growth?

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Speaker 2: We're going to keep pushing the Jagtag and the Jagtag

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Speaker 2: extra time programs across the country, big expansion plans in

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Speaker 2: multiple cities.

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Speaker 4: How do people get involved?

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Speaker 2: They can contact us through through the website, through our

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Speaker 2: social media as well at Jagtag UK, all of our

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Speaker 2: social channels from Jaguar's UK, and obviously just reach out.

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Speaker 2: Let's see if we can get something going in your area.

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Speaker 2: Very exciting times.

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Speaker 1: So what's the cart, Sandy.

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Speaker 2: Most of our programs are free actually because we're covered

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Speaker 2: by our corporate partners and other forms of sponsorship. We

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Speaker 2: are always on the lookout for sponsorship and any ways

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Speaker 2: of funding these programs.

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Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 1: Nice man that Andy Key. I swear I bumped into

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Speaker 1: him every thirty seconds during you know that the two

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Speaker 1: weeks where the jackiuers were in London. He was busy,

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Speaker 1: He was everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Everyone covers a lot of ground in those two weeks,

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Speaker 3: and I remember sending him a text message and he said,

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Speaker 3: my time is very specifically monitored and scheduled for the

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Speaker 3: next two weeks, which is fantastic. One thing I really

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Speaker 3: like about Andy I try and talk about Guinness as

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Speaker 3: much as I can on this podcast. I remember having

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Speaker 3: a pint with Andy and he was drinking zero Guinness

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Speaker 3: and managed to split the g but it didn't feel

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Speaker 3: like a win.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I've mentioned this before I went

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Speaker 1: to Ireland in summer and I got a Guinness, failed

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Speaker 1: to split the g and a friend of mine that

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Speaker 1: I was with he doesn't drink any alcohol. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: he hates guinness, but he bought ant percent is just

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Speaker 1: try to try and split the g failed, didn't drink

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Speaker 1: the rest ten euros. Let's move on to Duval Dispatches.

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Speaker 1: Almost Christmas, Key, almost Christmas, it's almost Jagsmas.

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Speaker 3: Oh you didn't, did you? Did you?

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Speaker 1: For the first time ever, the Jaguars UK and Ireland

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Speaker 1: are launching an epic Christmas competition twelve Days of Christmas,

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Speaker 1: twelve competitions, twelve amazing prizes. I'm actually a bit annoyed

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Speaker 1: about this because I quite fancy all of these prizes.

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00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: Signed jerseys, signed footballs, a throwback jersey. Okay, there is more,

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Speaker 1: do you know what? Actually, I'm going to be really blunt.

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Speaker 1: Can I be really blunt actually and just say that

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Speaker 1: some of this has written for me, key right and

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Speaker 1: in front of me. Instead of it saying there's more,

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Speaker 1: it says there's Mr.

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Speaker 6: Burr.

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Speaker 1: Come on, come on, it is Christmas. I can't actually

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Speaker 1: say where the rest of the prizes are though, Just

534
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Speaker 1: to be clear because the rest of the prizes are

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Speaker 1: they're so good I can't even mention it yet, not

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Speaker 1: allowed to mention it. It's running across Jackuar's UK and

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Speaker 1: I on x on, Facebook and Instagram. The first one

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Speaker 1: is going to start on the first of December. Good

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Speaker 1: luck and again I'm reading this. I hope you all enter.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, oh no oh, I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I wait, there's not there's more. You'll

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Speaker 1: be sorry if you don't. Oh no, I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love it secretly. I really like all of that.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what we should double down if we

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Speaker 1: have to, if we have to talk about this next week,

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Speaker 1: and we will talk about this next week because it

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Speaker 1: won't have even entered it started next week. Was double

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Speaker 1: down on the Christmas puns.

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Speaker 3: We have to have at least twelve puns in the

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Speaker 3: twelve days of Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. That's a good way of looking at it.

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Speaker 1: So what is on the Sky Show with Rhys Parkinson

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Speaker 1: this week? He obviously some people might have watched it

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Speaker 1: already because it's on a Wednesday, But what things should

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Speaker 1: people look out for us? Obviously there's repeats.

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Speaker 3: Even if you've already seen the show, there's repeats and

557
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 3: all the stuff goes up on the Jaguars UK YouTube

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Speaker 3: channel throughout the week as well. It's a good one

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Speaker 3: this week. Despite a tough game, it's a good one.

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Speaker 3: So we have the analysis with Reese and JP and

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Speaker 3: Tony Bisselli talking about the season as a whole and

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Speaker 3: what to expect, what the team should be focusing on

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Speaker 3: going into the bye week. But highlight for me this

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Speaker 3: week is Reese sitting down with coach Heath Farwell, who

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Speaker 3: honestly is one of the loveliest people you'll ever meet.

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Speaker 3: They get on really well and it's a really lovely chat,

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Speaker 3: particularly when Reese asks coach what he likes to do

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Speaker 3: off the field. Favorite moment maybe of the whole season,

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Speaker 3: the whole season, maybe yeah, can you give us a tease?

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Speaker 3: Coach is talking about his kids and whether it's right

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Speaker 3: to let them wear or not.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, it's right, good tough.

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Speaker 3: Sky Sports NFL throughout the week on Sky and then

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Speaker 3: at Jaguars UK YouTube channel for ybbitz.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we're going to get to the Fan of

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Speaker 1: the week in the second and the big question if

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Speaker 1: you want to be featured as our Fan of the week.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to be featured as our fan of

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Speaker 1: the week, get in touch via the media drop down

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Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot co dot uk and we will add

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Speaker 1: you to the list. First though at Key last week

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Speaker 1: we said we were giving away a lovely Jaguar's hoodie.

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Speaker 1: We are men of our words. We are not liars,

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Speaker 1: not in this respect anyway. Who are going to give

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Speaker 1: it to Key? Personally? I kind of hope it goes

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Speaker 1: unclaimed as the Jaguars UK and Island HQ didn't hear

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Speaker 1: when I didn't hear that.

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Speaker 3: So the only way it goes unclaimed is if no

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Speaker 3: one commented on YouTube, which I can already turn you Jay,

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Speaker 3: Sorry to disappoint, but people did comment. Do you know what?

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at it right now? And Francis has said

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Speaker 3: I need this woodie as I have six jackets and

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Speaker 3: no hoodies. I know, crazy how I don't have a

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Speaker 3: hoodie and I love a hoodie. It will go really

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Speaker 3: well with my training and the new blink I've got coming. Dude,

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Speaker 3: Francis has got to have this.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations to Francis. I like to think that you know

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Speaker 1: it's going to be hoodie jacket over the hoodie hats,

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Speaker 1: Jaguars bling, you know, loads of chains. Perfect congratulations, Francis.

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Speaker 1: All right, time for a big question this time around,

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Speaker 1: let's welcome Jaggs fan from the UK and Ireland. Molly, Molly,

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Speaker 1: what is a a big question?

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Speaker 6: So my question is how have we gone from eight

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Speaker 6: and three in Week twelve of last season to now

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Speaker 6: only having won three games out the last seventeen regular

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Speaker 6: season games?

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Speaker 5: What do you think has changed?

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Speaker 1: Good question, and honestly, I think that's a question that

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Speaker 1: not only are we going to speak about, but has

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Speaker 1: been spoken about a lot within Jacksonville as well a

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Speaker 1: lot within the Jagger's organization, I imagine as well. Key, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: do you have a good answer for this? I feel

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Speaker 1: like you might.

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Speaker 3: I have an answer, Okay, Molly. Monday night football, Bengals

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Speaker 3: losing to a backup QB. This team has not looked

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Speaker 3: the same since. I think something happened that night that

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Speaker 3: meant and I watched every game. I study tape of

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Speaker 3: every game, and I'm not massively x as and o's,

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Speaker 3: but what I do notice is body language, and I

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Speaker 3: do notice psychology, and I do listen to what people say.

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Speaker 3: Something changed in that game. Losing to a second string

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Speaker 3: QB on Monday night football in front of everyone. A

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Speaker 3: lot of pep was lost, and I just don't think

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00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: we've got it back. It's just the case of refinding

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Speaker 3: it because it's not a talent issue for me. It's

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Speaker 3: something has happened with the confidence.

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Speaker 1: Whilst I don't think this would have changed the overall

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Speaker 1: course of the season, to be honest with you, because

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Speaker 1: I just I just don't necessarily think it would have done.

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Speaker 1: I do think that looking back at those first couple

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Speaker 1: games of the season, you do wonder what would have

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Speaker 1: happened if there was a victory there in one of them,

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, games that you now look

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Speaker 1: back on and you think there was you know, the

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Speaker 1: Jags probably should have been in the Dolphins, the Jags

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Speaker 1: probably should have been in the Browns. If there was

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Speaker 1: a victory in one of those, then maybe you can

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Speaker 1: get another couple wins in the books just through as

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Speaker 1: you As you mentioned, they're like not positivity alone. But

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Speaker 1: sometimes I do believe that momentum is a thing. Some

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Speaker 1: people don't believe it's a thing. I do believe it's

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Speaker 1: a thing. So maybe that would have made a difference.

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Speaker 6: I thought you guys are going to say injuries.

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Speaker 1: Well, injuries is definitely a factor. There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: And I mean I was going to say that Trevor

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Speaker 1: Lawrence obviously at the end of last week, because if you,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we spoke about this during the summer. If

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Speaker 1: you say, oh, why did the Jags have a rough

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Speaker 1: end to the season last season, Well, look, you know,

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence was injured. Even when he was playing, he

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Speaker 1: was injured, and I think that's going to be a

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Speaker 1: massive factor.

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Speaker 7: I don't think we can blame injuries because of the

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Speaker 7: start of this season, we had a great, strong team.

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Speaker 7: Everyone was healthy, so I don't I don't think it's

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Speaker 7: down to injury either. I think you guys are right.

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00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 7: There is something in the fabric that has changed. Can't

658
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 7: put our fingers on it. Don't know what it is,

659
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 7: but it's that morale. It's that positivity, that energy. It

660
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 7: just feels like it's dropped off. And I don't know

661
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 7: the reason for that, but we are lacking that, you know,

662
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 7: that go that confidence that we're gonna we can smash it.

663
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 5: You know we were last year.

664
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 7: We were looking at can we get to the Super Bowl,

665
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 7: and it's just completely dropped off. And I think to

666
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 7: go from one extreme to now the other, that's going

667
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 7: to have a really big impact on mentality, mindset, and

668
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 7: how the team's going to move forward together.

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00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 5: You're not going to be cohesive if there's that morality,

670
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 5: that morale is not there. It's all it's all very subdued.

671
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 7: And I feel like we've just seen that even in

672
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 7: just in the plays, there's no confidence.

673
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 5: It's all a lot of you know, the running game,

674
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 5: and there's not jogging.

675
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 3: There's a lot of jogging to the sideline.

676
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

677
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's the plays. You can see there's no confidence

678
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 7: in it. So I'm not sure what's changed that I wish.

679
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 7: I know that mindset has changed, definitely.

680
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: I saw coach Peterson say, you know over the last

681
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: few days that the bi weeks come at a time,

682
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: not a good time necessarily, but a time when just

683
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: the whole team is tired. And I wasn't sure if

684
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 1: he meant it, but like, you know, in this way,

685
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: but obviously they're going to be physically tired, but I

686
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: think they're going to be emotionally tired as well. Right now,

687
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: is this a time Molly when you are thinking, are

688
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: you thinking tail end of November?

689
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: Now?

690
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you looking towards the next season already?

691
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 7: I don't want to say yes, because I'm always optimistic

692
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 7: every game we go into. I think you've got to

693
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 7: be positive because I'm you know, Jags fan through and through.

694
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 7: That's never going to change, so that hope is always there.

695
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 7: I think to say it's a right off, Okay, yes,

696
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 7: but that doesn't mean that I don't look forward to

697
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 7: each game because there's always the opportunity for those little

698
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 7: nuggets of you know, gold that just make it worthwhile

699
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 7: watching it.

700
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 5: So no, I'm looking to next season to.

701
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 7: Hope that we've made those changes to whatever it is

702
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 7: that needs to be fixed. But I'm still looking forward

703
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 7: to what the remainder of the season.

704
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: Oka well. On to this, then, what's the best possible

705
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: outcome for you between now and the last game of

706
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 1: the season.

707
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 7: Just either consistency, so even if we're still losing the games,

708
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 7: just to show that we're playing more consistent and better.

709
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 7: You know it's not competitive, right, yeah, yeah, to be competitive? Yeah,

710
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 7: So just just to have that cohesiveness and just to

711
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 7: show that consistent and see I think that's that's what

712
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 7: that would be the best outcome. So we've got that

713
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 7: little bit of hope to cling on to for next year.

714
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: Oh that's a really good point, actually, that Molly, because

715
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: I think that I've said this before that the off

716
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: season is so long I call it hope season, because

717
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: it's so long that you have to have that little

718
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: bit of hope, and every franchise's fans have that hope

719
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: because it could be like this could be the year.

720
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, I said it in

721
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: the summer to you, Key, is that it felt like

722
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: if because of the way that the last season ended,

723
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: that hope it wasn't quite maybe as hopeful as it

724
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: could have been, you know, for such a long time.

725
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: So if the Jags are able to put a few

726
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: wins under their belt or even you know, not even wins,

727
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: but just show some fight in some particular areas, you know,

728
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: in the team, where you can then say, all right, well,

729
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: actually I feel good about this part of the team.

730
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: I feel good about this part of the team. This

731
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: part of the team really stepped up towards the tail

732
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: end of the season. Then you can really start to

733
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 1: feel good about different aspects and don't get me wrong,

734
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: every single part of this team. I don't think they're

735
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: going to be writing it in because at the end

736
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: of the day, they're professionals and they've still got a

737
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: lot to play for. They've got their careers to play for.

738
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 3: It's too dangerous, it's too dangerous to give effort.

739
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 7: I mean, they've got the summer to get that momentum

740
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 7: going to even to build up the hype for the fans,

741
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 7: for the team themselves. Like, just build that momentum so

742
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 7: that when we get to next season it is like go,

743
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 7: go go, and everyone's got that positivity and that like

744
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 7: fresh feeling because this season going in it didn't feel

745
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 7: as fresh.

746
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 5: It felt like we.

747
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 7: Still had a bad taste in our mouse from last season.

748
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 7: So it's like, just to get that freshness in.

749
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 3: I think that will make.

750
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 6: A bit different.

751
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, have a few nice games around Christmas time and

752
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: make it a merry Christmas for Jags fans, and then

753
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: you know, people will be feeling good, you know, over

754
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: the weeks after that as well. Molly, thank you so

755
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: much for joining.

756
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 6: Us, No problem, no problem too, Thanks for having me.

757
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a Molly key, great question. She was

758
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: wearing her Jags sweatshirt. I'm surprised she wasn't wearing her

759
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: Jags WANSI because it's it's it's her and there's a

760
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: bunch of them that go to the games, isn't there

761
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: and they all wear the Jags Wonsis they do?

762
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 3: I assume it was in the wash, yeah, or hung

763
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 3: up on the wall. Let's hope. So.

764
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: I think I spoke to them before and she said

765
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: one of them said that they'd never washed it.

766
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 3: Steve said that he'd never washed it.

767
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to know that. To

768
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: be honest, Steve, let's go to the Predictions League our tally. No, No,

769
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: I feel like we should of how I'm doing in

770
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: our predictions for the Jags games. You're doing and the

771
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: fans are doing. And I'll be honest, I find it

772
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: quite embarrassing.

773
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: That none of us have got anything to brag about.

774
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: Really, I'm on five, I'm leading. Then then it goes

775
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: fans fans have got three, right, and then you're there

776
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: with two. How many games have the Jags won this season? Unfortunately,

777
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: it's not my fault. No, I'm not what I know.

778
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is it's embarrassing that I've chosen three times,

779
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: I've chosen the Jags to lose, and they've lost, and

780
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: that is why I'm top of the league. So I

781
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: feel kind of embarrassed about that, to be honest, that

782
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: it does have to be said that I have been

783
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: told that there is a big grand prize for this

784
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: for the whoever whoever wins this league.

785
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, you're not a no. Now I'm fuming, and

786
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: now I am actually going to talk to Simon, a producer,

787
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 3: about a new co host for this podcast next season.

788
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: I didn't even know there was going to be a

789
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: prize butt prize of all time?

790
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 3: Is it one of Francis's chains Francis.

791
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: It's one of France's chained or it's Steve's sweaty ones.

792
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 3: You could have it, You have it.

793
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: It's like great cheers, Steve, that what you're sweaty? No

794
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: prediction in.

795
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: The post and green smoke is coming out.

796
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: Exactly just slightly damp anyway, less about sweat isn't a

797
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: game obviously this weekend because it's a bye week. Next

798
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: up is Textans at Home, but we'll get more into

799
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: that this time next week. Weeky, So you don't need

800
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: to give you a prediction. It's fine.

801
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 3: I predict that the Jags will not lose this week.

802
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: Okay, this doesn't count. This doesn't count as a week. Key,

803
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining me today. It has

804
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: been lovely. We'll be back next week. Are you going

805
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: to take this weekend off watching the NFL? Watching the Jags?

806
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: So you're going to sit watching red Zone regardless?

807
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: I will sit and watch Red Zone regardless to see

808
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,959
Speaker 3: how everyone else in the division gets on, et cetera,

809
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: et cetera. Also love NFL Man Sunday isn't the same

810
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: without it?

811
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: Aimen to that, key, Amen to that. All right, we'll

812
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: be back next week. This has been a shooting sharp

813
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,600
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814
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,600
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815
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,759
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816
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817
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,880
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818
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,839
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