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Speaker 1: Welcome to Hawkslive every Thursday at seven pm right here

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Speaker 1: on seven ten ESPN Seattle on Michael Bump is here

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Speaker 1: with Paul Moyer. If you are a true Hawks fan

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Speaker 1: and you didn't know the hawkslaus twenty six to seventeen

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Speaker 1: last Thursday, I forgive you. Okay, it's all right. We

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Speaker 1: don't want to remember that, but we have to go

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Speaker 1: through what happened. Moyer and my initial reactions to that

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Speaker 1: loss was first half, second half, and it sounds pretty familiar.

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Speaker 1: The first half, the Hawks goings to halftime up seven

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Speaker 1: to three. The second half they're outscored twenty three to ten,

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Speaker 1: and in all of that madness, they happen to lose

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Speaker 1: the most important player on their football team, Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: He's out for three to six weeks, first injury he's

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Speaker 1: ever had in his career as a football player, which

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Speaker 1: is pretty amazing in itself. Thoughts on the Rams game

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Speaker 1: and then we'll move forward. Well, I thought first half, defensively,

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Speaker 1: we did some nice thing. You know, you go back

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Speaker 1: and watch the video. You know, Rams probably missed on

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Speaker 1: a few things that they saw, and they got us

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Speaker 1: in the second half, particularly going after our defense with

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Speaker 1: with a zone route concept that it's tough, the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: will adjust to it. I saw it a bunch over

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Speaker 1: the weekend, So I thought we played hard. I liked

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Speaker 1: what we did offensively, you know when we when we

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Speaker 1: had the lead. But yeah, obviously you lose Russell, that's tough.

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Speaker 1: Geno Smith comes in. That was a great drive. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk obviously more about him. I'm excited that, you know,

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Speaker 1: for an older guy, still got great legs, and that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be important moving forward. So ram game was competitive.

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Speaker 1: I look at that game and you know, again I

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Speaker 1: was reading a bunch of the tweets and the negativity

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Speaker 1: and the only negativity. Honestly, it came down to five plays,

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Speaker 1: five maybe three. And I'm gonna really emphasize this too.

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Speaker 1: When you play a great team, your best players have

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Speaker 1: to shine. And so I'm gonna go with our three

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Speaker 1: or four of our highest paid players, Okay Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams and Bobby Wagner, Dwayne Brown. In that game,

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Speaker 1: there were four or five plays that were huge in

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Speaker 1: that game. And if they play the way they're capable

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Speaker 1: and make the plays, we're in great shape. And I

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Speaker 1: only give a couple examp. First example was third down

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Speaker 1: and we got to cover two on the rams. We've

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Speaker 1: got the lead, We're gonna get off the field cover two.

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Speaker 1: Perfect call in that situation. They read it wrong. They

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Speaker 1: throw into coverage where Jamal is in perfect shape, and

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason Paul Jamal doesn't adjust to that passion

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Speaker 1: at worst, knockdown interception. No chance that that should have

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Speaker 1: ever been called. Talking about that long throw, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that was It was a third down play. So

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Speaker 1: there's two things going on there. So why is that?

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Speaker 1: And so that's a big play. Our best players have

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Speaker 1: to make those plays. Those are give me plays. Not

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Speaker 1: only did we not get off the field, they make

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Speaker 1: the play go down and score. I'm gonna throw another

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Speaker 1: one Russell Wilson, and people give me a little heat

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Speaker 1: on this one. The play he hurts his finger on.

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Speaker 1: We run a double move, a stutter go with Lockett.

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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful play. He's opened by twenty yards, maybe fifteen.

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Speaker 1: I'm exaggerating. Russell gets some pressure, but he's open. Russell

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Speaker 1: can make that throw. He overthrows him in that situation,

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Speaker 1: you know, to magnify that issue. You know, he hurts

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Speaker 1: his finger and he's out for six weeks. Third one,

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Speaker 1: I'll stop it at this. We get a touchdown again,

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown gets called for holding. Plake comes back. Not

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Speaker 1: only do we not Scar, I think we miss a

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Speaker 1: field goal. So those three plays are worth well, there's

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Speaker 1: fourteen that's twenty one points. Really that end up costing

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Speaker 1: to see three plays. Those are your three best players.

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Speaker 1: And there's some you know, there's a couple of plays

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Speaker 1: again where Bobby wagon Wag expect him on these long

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Speaker 1: situations too, to play better than those two. So not

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Speaker 1: that anybody even played that poorly. Everybody's nitpick and I go,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's three or four plays that are

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Speaker 1: it's a twenty one point difference on that and you

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Speaker 1: end up winning that thing. And even with all that,

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Speaker 1: We lose our best player. We don't have Chris Carson.

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Speaker 1: Did we have Chris Now? We didn't have Chris Carson? Right,

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Speaker 1: you know, defensively we got we talked off there a bunch.

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Speaker 1: We just got to get tighter in understanding pattern reads.

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Speaker 1: And I gave you a really good example of one,

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Speaker 1: if they can learn these little subtleties instead of them

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Speaker 1: part of it is getting to know each other. It's

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Speaker 1: still so let me ask you, so as a coach,

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Speaker 1: do you look at your coach and staff and you

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Speaker 1: look at your players? You go, guys, this is just

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Speaker 1: who we are. I don't know if we can get

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Speaker 1: these things right or is it just a constant battle

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Speaker 1: every single week, just try to tweak a thing here

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Speaker 1: or there and hopefully eventually they figured out, because at

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Speaker 1: some point, if it doesn't get figured out, the season

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Speaker 1: is just gone. And we're not at the point right

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Speaker 1: now where the season is gone. Now we're what twenty

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Speaker 1: eight percent through the season or whatever it is, with

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Speaker 1: the extra game now. Um, so two things to that. Look.

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Speaker 1: Some of it is I may just have a really

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Speaker 1: special player. I'm looking at Jamal Adams. We got to

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Speaker 1: stop playing Jamal Adams as a traditional safety. He's not

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Speaker 1: a cover too safety. He's in the box safety. You've

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Speaker 1: got to adapt whatever it is it may be pulling

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Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner off on third down and putting him in

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Speaker 1: for blitzes and things like that, because I really believe

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Speaker 1: you need to have Marquis Blair back is another safety.

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Speaker 1: You got two digs in him and then have a

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Speaker 1: Nickel and then Jamal Adams, you know, or you gotta

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Speaker 1: put Jamal more than Nickels situation, which that didn't work

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Speaker 1: because you know he's not going to man up all

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Speaker 1: day on the slot. So that that's one. So somebody

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Speaker 1: has a special skill that maybe you go, Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: not his strength. I don't know if that's going to improve,

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Speaker 1: then then I just got to live with some things, right.

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Speaker 1: The other one, though, is the offenses now are so complex, right,

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Speaker 1: multiple formations, lots of different you know, I'm a gun,

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Speaker 1: I'm under center, I got all these different play actions, boots,

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Speaker 1: There's a lot going on there. Man, There's just not

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Speaker 1: enough reps. So some people it's like, well, do you

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Speaker 1: get more complex on defense? Do you get less that?

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Speaker 1: You know? Is it too simple? So I think it's

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Speaker 1: it's one of those where I'm looking with the Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: is are we getting a little better every week? And

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Speaker 1: I think we are. I thought we played better last week.

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Speaker 1: It's just they hit us on these four five plays

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Speaker 1: really weren't adjusting to it. Maybe it's passed right. It's

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Speaker 1: I did the video and go, okay, we're gonna be okay.

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Speaker 1: I feel better now than I did two weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Let's get so you think we're gonna be okay? Which

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Speaker 1: is which is good? Twelve? You guys heard it here

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Speaker 1: first Paul Moyer tells you it's gonna be okay, but

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Speaker 1: you lose number three. Now Genos maybe comes in. He

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Speaker 1: put together a great drive ten plays ninety eight yards,

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Speaker 1: finishes with a twenty three yard touchdown to DK Matcalf.

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Speaker 1: Will Dissie Gown involved. He was five for seven seventy

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Speaker 1: seven yards one touchdown during that drive. This guy in

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Speaker 1: his career has thirty touchdowns. He's throwing thirty touchdowns, thirty

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Speaker 1: seven interceptions seven and rushing touchdowns. What did you see

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Speaker 1: out of Gino that will back up what you said defensively?

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be all right offensively? Are these guys gonna

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Speaker 1: be all right? Yeah? I think offensively we will be fine.

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Speaker 1: Now it's easier to say after somebody comes in the

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Speaker 1: when he's not being game planned against. That. We've talked

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Speaker 1: You know, blitz is both good and bad. Is an

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator in the quarterback the one nice thing is

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Speaker 1: too usually, but now I've got pressure. You know, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot, a lot that goes with that. If Chris

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Speaker 1: that goes, because I boot do believe we can't put

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Speaker 1: We got to run the football. I think we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be Offensively, we're gonna be great. And again, if we

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Speaker 1: need him for eight games, you know game plans. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're looking you're losing one of the greatest quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: looked good, he looked mobile, he was accurate, he ran

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Speaker 1: the offense. That last interception wasn't his fault, though I

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Speaker 1: they'll bump. Is our defense dominant enough or good enough

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Speaker 1: right now to give Geno on the offense a chance

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Speaker 1: that's key. The defense has to carry the offense, at

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be like, okay, defense maker player two and

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Speaker 1: get these guys going. They're going up aginst the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 1: who we know Ben Roethlisberger is not the most mobile quarterback,

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Speaker 1: used to do it. They do have weapons in Chase Claypool.

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Speaker 1: We also have Deontay Johnson the other side. Nagie Harris

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Speaker 1: they will be challenged. They've won once in Pittsburgh in

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. That's whim been started to feel like an

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Speaker 1: old man. He hurt his elbow against the Seahawks and

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Speaker 1: didn't come back. But I'm with you. I think there's

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Speaker 1: enough to go into this game optimistic. Even though Geno's

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Speaker 1: the offense a little bit, but not too much. And

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Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna ask Ray Fittipaul Dough from

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Post Gazette about that when we returned right

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Speaker 1: here on Hawks Lot. You're listening to Hawkslove every Thursday

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Speaker 1: right here on seven ten ESPN with me, Michael Bombas

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Speaker 1: and my guy Paul Moyer. Now we get to speak

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Speaker 1: to Ray faa Paul though from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette. Ray,

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Speaker 1: what's up? Man? Gonna be with you? How are you hey?

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Speaker 1: Nice to hear your voice again. We spoke to you

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Speaker 1: what two years ago in the pre and post game

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Speaker 1: show when the Hawks went down to Pittsburgh and some

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Speaker 1: familiarity going on, man, at least a little bit. We

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Speaker 1: have a quarterback who was injured in Russell Wilson last

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Speaker 1: time the Hawks went down there. Ben Roethlisberger was banged up.

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Speaker 1: What's the mood there in Pittsburgh. You guys are coming

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Speaker 1: off a win three losses prior to that, you beat

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. What's the vibe over there? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean listen two and three right now. They're looking to

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Speaker 1: get to three and three before they get to their

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Speaker 1: buy next week. So um, you know, I think they

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425
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Speaker 1: was something that was really appealing to me. M So,

426
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Speaker 1: once I got the offer, right after my junior year,

427
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 1: I committed within you know, twenty four hours. Did they

428
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: recruit you more off of the potential what you were

429
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Speaker 1: going to do in the passing game where they see

430
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 1: you as as a run blocker. What was the strength

431
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: of your game at that time? Early on, it was

432
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 1: definitely the past game. Um, you know, my freshman year

433
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: at Stanford, I was he was mainly as a receiver.

434
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: I was split out all the time, kind of all

435
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Speaker 1: over the field. And then they definitely saw the potential

436
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 1: of me to progress to the true y and you know,

437
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: play every day and not just passing downs. Hey, Kolby out,

438
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: I believe you broke your fifth metatorso in your foot,

439
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: Is that correct? Correct? Yep? So I had the same

440
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: injury when I was with the Seahawks. I mean, tell

441
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: me what that recovery was like, because I know for me,

442
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: it was hard for me to run as hard as

443
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: I can and put that foot in the ground. I

444
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: really believe that it was going to hold up. Yeah,

445
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: it definitely took a while to get the confidence back. Um,

446
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,959
Speaker 1: whether or not to foot was strong enough was kind

447
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 1: of out of the question. As this for most recoveries,

448
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of its mental just trusting it

449
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: out there. But you know, I was able to come

450
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: back pretty quick. I felt really good out there. This

451
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 1: was last year, and you know, after about eight weeks

452
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: I was I was really comfortable running around and not

453
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: really thinking about it. But do you had another injury?

454
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 1: It was it similar to this one? It was similar.

455
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: It wasn't nearly as bad it was. You know, I

456
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: was only out for about four or five weeks, but

457
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: I was running. You know, a week after I kind

458
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: of messed up a little bit and was back really

459
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 1: quickly running on the field. I know, you know, fully

460
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: confident and it's all all good. So you said that

461
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: you finally got confidence in it again. How do you

462
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: get at that mindset? I mean, I'm sure you know

463
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: injuries around the feet you start to worry a little bit.

464
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: Do you rely on your your your colleagues there in

465
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: the tight end room or significant other? So the confidence

466
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: just comes from repetition for me, especially, Uh, you can

467
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: only do so much in rehab. You know, you're running

468
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: routes and all that, but it's it's nothing like the game.

469
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: So getting out there and practicing and playing is when

470
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: you're when you're fully confident. It's it fully clicks. So

471
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Speaker 1: now you're healthy, you're ready to go. Describe your game

472
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Speaker 1: to people who probably don't know who you were. What

473
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Speaker 1: type of full ball player is Colby Parkinson? Yeah, I'm

474
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: a six foot seven tight end who loves to catch

475
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: the ball runner outs and you know has definitely developed

476
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: the blocking part of my game to be reliable and

477
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: something that I'll continue to work on and you know,

478
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: be that dependable every down tight end. Do you see that?

479
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I'll call it a hybrid. I mean, look,

480
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: tight ends back in the day, you know you had

481
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: your hand down the ground. It was blocked first, and

482
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: you're an outlet second. You know. Now today it's you know,

483
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: you're a wide receiver. As you mentioned, you get spread out.

484
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: How do you see that? You how they use you

485
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: moving forward and over the next couple of years, you

486
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: see that being moved out mostly in the passing game.

487
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: I think they'll try to use me all over the field.

488
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: I mean, my job is, or my goal rather is

489
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: to be someone that, um, you know, when I'm on

490
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: the field, they're not sure what's coming. They can put

491
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Speaker 1: me out wide, they can line me up him on

492
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 1: the ground and we can do all different types of

493
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: things and really have some different creative looks based off

494
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Speaker 1: of it. So that's that's the goal for me at

495
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: least moving forward, and you know, try to show what

496
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: I can do out there on the field. He can

497
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: do it all Moreyer, that's what he's saying. He can

498
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: do it all. So now let's let's go back to college. Now, Colby,

499
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,959
Speaker 1: Now you your Stanford Cardinal has a big win against

500
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Speaker 1: Oregon and over time they go up top to big

501
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: receivers to get it done. Then the next week they

502
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: lose to pal Moore's alma mater. Thank you for bringing

503
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: on the state. Just where do you think stand for

504
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: football is right now? You know, they're just trying to

505
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: find it. I think kind of like kind of like

506
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: us this year. Honestly, we're have some great stuff going

507
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: on and some stuff we you know, we're working through

508
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: and trying to trying to clift. So, uh, they'll figure

509
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: it out. I know they will. And I mean that

510
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: Organ game was pretty awesome to watch us. I was

511
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: fired up for them. So it's interesting about David Shaw.

512
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: His dad, Willie Shaw, was my defensive back coach at

513
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Speaker 1: Arizona State. Probably oh, well, I hate to say, because

514
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: I've had so many great coaches in my life, but

515
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: there was none finer. I mean again, just really intelligent

516
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: guy I understood, not just a game people, and I

517
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have made an NFL without him. I mean,

518
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 1: he's he was that impactful in my life. But I

519
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: remember David when I think as either on a recruiting trip.

520
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,239
Speaker 1: I think I stayed at at the Shaw's house and

521
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: he was a little and you know, he was looking up,

522
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: you know, like I was. You know, he was he

523
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: was in awe of me back then. As all I'm saying, um,

524
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Speaker 1: just just really have But so Dave Wyman, I was

525
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: more of a a statement than anything on that. Dave Wyman,

526
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,959
Speaker 1: who went to Stanford and who I played with. Also,

527
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: he I said, will give me something to ask Colby

528
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: that you know, maybe no one knows. And he said,

529
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: go ask him if they still have Sunday night flicks

530
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: at st Flicks Flick. Yeah, so I knew. So I

531
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: had to be prepared. I go, Dave. If he says no,

532
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: I've never heard it, I got to have a where

533
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: I got somewhere to go on this one. But he

534
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: used to say it was a big deal at Stanford

535
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: that they would release movies ahead of time, like three

536
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: or four days, and it would be called Sunday Night Flicks,

537
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: and able to release it at Stanford, everybody would go

538
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: to watch it. So so basically there's nothing to do

539
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 1: at Stanford. If that's all he had, I don't know.

540
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: That sounds pretty fun to me. Exactly. That did not

541
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Speaker 1: happen while we were there, Hey, Colby, no worry about it.

542
00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 1: We stream nowadays. There's no flicks. There's no fire. That's true. Hey,

543
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: Kobe man, we appreciate you taking time out of your day. Man.

544
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: Good luck this uh this Sunday Man, Sunday Night against

545
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: day Steelers. That's right, Yeah, I can't wait. Appreciate you guys.

546
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: God blessed all right, thank you. That was Kolby Parkins.

547
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: Hey man, sounds like a good kid man. So you

548
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: know me anybody man of faith and he went to

549
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: He talked about oas Christian why he went there. You know,

550
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: he kept bringing up, you know, faith and academics. Well

551
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: I had to Stanford academics, you know, and you know, hey,

552
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: blessings at the end. That's I'll take that in today's

553
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: world any day. All day every day. That was Kolby

554
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: Parks Parkins. And when we come up, when we come back,

555
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: get it out bumped. We come back, We're gonna talk

556
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: to the Professor John Clayton right here on Hawks Loves.

557
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: You know what it is, Hawks Live every Thursday. You

558
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: hear the funk in the background. That means we're talking

559
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: to j C. John Clayton. What's up man? How are

560
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: we doing good? Michael? How are you? We are doing okay,

561
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: but talking full bab we're watching full ball at the

562
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: same time. We got the Eagles and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

563
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: Doesn't surprise you. I think I saw a stat that

564
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: Tom Brady leads the league in passing yards and touchdowns.

565
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 1: How great is that? John, Oh, it's fantastic. I mean

566
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: you go back to last year and I think what

567
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: he has. You know, thirteen and fourteen consecutive games where

568
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,239
Speaker 1: he's had three touchdown passes are more. He's had more

569
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: three hundred yard games dating back to last year than

570
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: anybody in football. And the only bad part about this

571
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: game is that the Eagles are playing, and of course

572
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: that ruins the chance to watch the Kraken because again

573
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: you can see how one sided this game is. And

574
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: the Eagles, you know, though exciting a little bit on offense,

575
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: just aren't that good. It's Kansas City. I mean, we

576
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: can't say they're done because the Seahawks are two on three.

577
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: That means now, but they don't look the same. They

578
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: don't they're not the same. I mean they're bad on defense.

579
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: You know, they've gotten hardly anything out of Frank Clark.

580
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: I know, Chris Jones was injured last week. The secondaries

581
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: notw doing well. It's not like they're great at the

582
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: linebacker position. They're getting no pressure on the quarterback. They've

583
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: revamped their offensive line. But the biggest thing is Patrick Mahomes.

584
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you're dating back to last year. He's thrown

585
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,479
Speaker 1: about thirteen interceptions and he's never done that. I mean,

586
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: he's always been, you know, one of the most accurate quarterbacks,

587
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: one of the safest quarterbacks. But he's making more key

588
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: mistakes than he's ever made. And they come into critical

589
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: point in the fourth quarter, and so because of that,

590
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: those comebacks that he had last year, I mean, he's close,

591
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: but he's not getting them now. They lose Edward Clyde Hilaire.

592
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: They're running back he's got an MCL, so he's going

593
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: to be out probably three to four weeks. And it's

594
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: not a good situation. You know, he's not getting the

595
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: ball as consistent to Tyree Hill. So yeah, they're just

596
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: not the same team right now. And at the moment,

597
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: I mean, the best team in the AFC West is

598
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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers. John how great was the performance

599
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: by Lamar and Jackson on Monday nightfall? About thirty seven

600
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: to forty three, four to forty two yards, four touchdowns.

601
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: Is it time that people stop just saying he's a

602
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: running quarterback? Yeah? I think so, because again you can

603
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: see there's two things he's advanced on now to have

604
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 1: a game like that, with that kind of accuracy and

605
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: that kind of throwing, knowing the teams are doing their

606
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: best to stuff the run, and knowing that you know,

607
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: basically the you know, the Ravens are patching their running

608
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: back position with your players off the street like Lady

609
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: Latavius Murray and Devonte Freeman. And now you know, having

610
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: for what it's worth, Levion Bell, Uh, it's not the same,

611
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: And so you can take away a little bit of

612
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: a run, but you can't take away his runs. And

613
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: so his ability to run where he's going to run

614
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: for over a thousand yards and to have a game

615
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: like that was just absolutely incredible. So No, In fact,

616
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: I had to do a thing for the Washington Post,

617
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: and I probably have Lamar too low because I had

618
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: to do the MVPs, and basically nine to the ten

619
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: MVPs were all quarterbacks. You know, I had Derrick Henry's

620
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: number ten at running back. But you know, I put,

621
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: for what it's worth, maybe I'm wrong on this, Tyler

622
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: Murray at number one because he's five and zero. I

623
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: put obviously Tom Brady at number two, Josh Allen at

624
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: number three because you know, he's right now the biggest

625
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: offensive producer as far as points in the AFC roughly,

626
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: and then I had Lamar number four. Yeah, Kyler Murray's

627
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: starting to worry him. He's he's turned out to be better,

628
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: and I thought he would at this stage. But John,

629
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: you were at Pittsburgh, from Pittsburgh at least before you

630
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: came to Seattle. So two things, Well, I asked just

631
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: one right now, but I'll follow up after. Um, what

632
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: what are they saying there about Ben Roethlisberger? Is this

633
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: is this sit for him, they say this is it? Yeah?

634
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: I mean because again, I mean you got a lot

635
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: of people were thinking this should have been it, uh

636
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: you know this before the season, which would have been

637
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: wrong because again, where are they going to get the quarterback?

638
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's like, you know, they they make, they

639
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, they win eleven games, so you know,

640
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: it's like Tom john Snyder and that you're drafting into twenties,

641
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: where's the quarterback? I mean because five quarterbacks you know,

642
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: went into top thirteen picks and so you know, and

643
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: they weren't going to have the ability to trade up

644
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: into a thirteen or eleven or so to be able

645
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: to get a quarterback. I mean it's like, yeah, you're

646
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: going to replace Ben Roethlisberger with Davis Mills of Stanford.

647
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: I don't think so. So you know, now this year,

648
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: if they have a bad if they continue to lose. Now,

649
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: of course, they won a big game last week against Denver,

650
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: but if they have a season right now, they could

651
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: end up, you know, with a top twelve, top ten

652
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: pick and be in a position to move up to

653
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: get a quarterback. But I think right now what you're

654
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: looking at is Ben is getting two beat up you

655
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: can see that Ben other than last week, has not

656
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: thrown the ball down field as much. I mean, for example,

657
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: three of his first score four games, I mean he

658
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: threw for less than six yards an attempt. And as

659
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: you know, Paul and you know Michael, was like, hey,

660
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: I mean you need six. Point four is not good.

661
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: Less than six is bad. Yeah, they got they got you. Unfortunately,

662
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: I think they have to put it on the shoulders

663
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: go with their thirty first in the rushing yards game

664
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: and then twenty ninth rushing average. So they're not getting

665
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: it done either way. Yeah, but they're getting better right

666
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 1: now because they had a real good game against Denver.

667
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: But Naji Harris that they did no, he had a

668
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: career game, all right. So you Pittsburgh guy, Seattle guy.

669
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: I think pitt the best at nighttime. The best look

670
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: at any stadium in the nash Football League is luman Field.

671
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: It's just the way it's But I'll tell you what

672
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: I think the second best is is it still Hinesfield?

673
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: Is Hines Field, those terrible yellow towels waving all crazy.

674
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: So maybe share a little differences between those two experiences

675
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: when people walk in and what the Seahawks are against

676
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: it with a home crowd. Well, what you have to

677
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: do is you have to go back in history and

678
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: h you know, look what happened in Pittsburgh because all

679
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, Pittsburgh in the early seventies,

680
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: you know, the steel mills were starting to close, and

681
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 1: so what ended up happening is that you start losing

682
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people moving out of town because you know,

683
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: they don't have the type of high paying type of

684
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: jobs that you would have in the steel mills, and

685
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: so there was a real kind of lull there. Then

686
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: all of a sudden here in seventy two, the Steelers start,

687
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: they make their first playoff run with the immaculate reception,

688
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: and then eventually two years later go to four out

689
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: of six Super Bowls, and all of a sudden, that

690
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: developed the pride that this team had, that the city

691
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: had in their football team, and the pride that the

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00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: city had in their in their Steelers and also in

693
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: their city. And so that was important because now you

694
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: can see the fan base is about as good as

695
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: it can be. It's loyal, it's loud, I mean, it cares.

696
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: I mean, frank, I mean, you know, Myron Cope was

697
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: the one who started the terrible towels and of course,

698
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: uh you know whom ha. He was the one who

699
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: taught them all to try to wave those towels and

700
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: do it. And they all do it and they love

701
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: doing it. But I mean, they've got a great fan base.

702
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: They care about this team, and they're all going to

703
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: cheer it on. First time I ever cried immaculate reception.

704
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: I was a diehard Raider fan, even though I grew

705
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: up in southern California, because I was George Blanda and

706
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: Fred blitten A cough and all those guys. First time

707
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: I ever and now I was little, but I never

708
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: liked Pittsburgh since until we had it was their running back.

709
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: Sorry Franco Harris. Yeah, when we got him in eighty

710
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: four when Kurt Warner got hurt and I got to

711
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: hang out with him for eight games when he was

712
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 1: on our team. One of the sweetheart of sweetheart guys, oh,

713
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: no question about it. A great guy. Franko into Bank,

714
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: Oh and you know all that stuff. I mean I

715
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: still remember, you know, right before he came to Seattle,

716
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: you know, going over to his house over in the

717
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: north north side of Pittsburgh, and uh, you know, saying, Franco,

718
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: what are you doing with this holdout? I mean, you're

719
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: asking for a multi year contract and you're in your thirties.

720
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: Are you crazy? No? I deserve it. It's like I've

721
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: had a great career and I deserve it, two or

722
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: three year contract extension and all that. I said, Frank,

723
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get it. And so next thing you know,

724
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: they let him go. He ends up coming out here

725
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: and he is just a great guy. John our producer

726
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: Nasa Choby always gets us with some good stuff and

727
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 1: on our show shot he has a look. The Seahawks

728
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: came into training cap with ten corners. Three of those

729
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: guys remain Read Brown and Heslop. Do you think they

730
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: are content moving forward with these guys. No, I think

731
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: that they're still going to continue to look. I mean,

732
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: because again, it's like the cornerback position. I know Dave

733
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: Winman didn't believe me on this, but I told him

734
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: it's like the cornerback position right now is one of

735
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: the most injured in football, cornerback and offensive lineman. And

736
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: so that's why, for example, there was no question that

737
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: Trey Flowers is going to get something quick. You know,

738
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 1: Cincinnati loses Trey Wayne's they're high paid cornerback from last year.

739
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he goes on the injured reserve list, Boom

740
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: Flowers goes. But I think what you're looking at right

741
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: now is that, you know, they bring in a Kello

742
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: Witherspoon and that didn't work out, but they were able

743
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: to get rid of his four million dollars guaranteed contract.

744
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: You know, Flowers probably, I don't know, is a debate

745
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: whether he wanted out or not. But you know, Pete

746
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: Carroll at the very least said that, you know, they

747
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: needed to go a different direction because he needed a

748
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: fresh start, and so that didn't go. But you know,

749
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: they make the trade for Sidney Jones. But I think

750
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: they're still going to be looking you know, again, I

751
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: don't think that they I mean again, I was kind

752
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: of surprised they weren't willing to give up that the

753
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: low twenty twenty three pick to get Stefan Gilmore. But

754
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: you can understand it. He's thirty one, he didn't have

755
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: a great season last year, and he's still injured. Like

756
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: for example, we still got another week on the pup list,

757
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: so he couldn't help immediately. John it's at time. What's

758
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: on your mind, Professor, Well, I guess the big thing

759
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: right now is that, you know, with John Gruden being

760
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: let go and wisely so because of the bad comments

761
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: that he made, and you know, you feel bad about

762
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: the fact that here's the Washington investigation going nowhere and

763
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,959
Speaker 1: the only people that had any kind of problems were

764
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: John Gruden and Ad Schefter, which is very bizarre. But

765
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: I think the big thing that this signals is that

766
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a lot of coaching changes

767
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: this year, you know, because now what you wonder he's like,

768
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: who's going to come in for John Gruden. I mean,

769
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: certainly you can see that Matt Nagy's in trouble. I mean,

770
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: you can go through a long list of coaches that

771
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: are going to be in trouble. But I think this

772
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: just kind of tips it off. And of course, you know,

773
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: the one that I still don't I still don't know

774
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: if he can make it to the Seahawk game is

775
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: Urban Myer because you know, Urban is so bad right now,

776
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: It's what he does, probably one of the worst coaches

777
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: to ever come into this league. And so it's like,

778
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: how's that one gonna go? And you don't have great

779
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: hopes for that. All right, John, As always, we appreciate

780
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: you time you can keep it funky. We'll talk to

781
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: you on Sunday. Sounds good? Okay? When we return this

782
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: time for me and Moyer to talk that talk. Will

783
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams get his first sack on Sunday? Will Geno

784
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: Smith go three and oh at the quarterback spot? We'll

785
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: talk about that and more right here on Hawks Live.

786
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: Welcome back Hawks Live. Every Thursday. It's time to talk

787
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 1: to talk boy and say what's your chest? Moyer? Whatever

788
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: you say, you say it with your chest. Tell them

789
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: everybody to jump oneven, spin and go and look at

790
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: the stream video us in the studio. My chest is

791
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: sticking out right now. Moore has been working out, y'all.

792
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: He's been working out. Thank you notice? Hey, I got

793
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: you all right? First question I have for you, because

794
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: we're talking at talk right now, will Gino go three

795
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: and oh? Now they got the Steelers, the Saints and

796
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: the Jaguars before the bye? Will they go three and oh?

797
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: With Gino? I feel a lot more confident if our

798
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 1: defense was a team that I felt I could depend

799
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: on to shut this the other opponent down and to

800
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: get them a bunch of opportunities. But here's what I

801
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: will say. I'm gonna say yes, and here's why we

802
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: just gotta win this one next tour at home. I

803
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: don't think New Runs is very good. And Jacksonvilles note,

804
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: I also like it that we are we're we've all

805
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: been on this team. When you lose the guy and

806
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: there's one, there's two ways you can go. Let's go

807
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 1: south quickly or everybody picks it up. And we got

808
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: so many good players on this team, they just got

809
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: to bring their game up. We talked to the very

810
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: beginning of the show last week, three of our four really,

811
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, three of our four high paid players, if

812
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: they hadn't done their job on a certain plays. It

813
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: was a twenty point twenty one point swing on these

814
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: on three plays holding penalty. You know, we didn't hit

815
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: a wide open Tyler Lockett and Jamal Adams on that

816
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: third down play cover too. So I think we're going

817
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: to rise in the occasion. I think our defense is

818
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: gonna play much better. And I mean there's nowhere to go,

819
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: you know, really, I mean there's sometimes you hit rock

820
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: bottom and you just go Okay, guys, let's just go

821
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: play football. We've been doing this since we've been like

822
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: five years old. So I think we're gonna go three

823
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: and O. But you know, obviously this is the one.

824
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: I think the next two aren't gonna be as definicult. Okay,

825
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: So there's two ways you make decisions. Your heart with

826
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: your mind. Yeah. My heart says yes, three and oh,

827
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: let's get it. My mind says, why would I believe

828
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna go three and OL The defense to struggle.

829
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: The offense wasn't right with Russell Wilson. Now you got

830
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 1: Gino coming in. I think Gino can move the ball,

831
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: but you're gonna have to lean on your defense. The

832
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: run game. Parson's banged up, Alice Collins is gonna get

833
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: a few more carries. I'm just not sure that they're

834
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: gonna go three and U, so I'm gonna say they

835
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: will not. I think they're gonna drop at least one

836
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: of these. I'm leaning more towards two and one rather

837
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: than three and H just off of what I've seen

838
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: the past five weeks. Do you think we win this week?

839
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: So this is the game. You don't think we know?

840
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: I think this. I think the ones after these they

841
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: can get. But I think that Ben's healthy enough. They

842
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: have a run game, they have two receivers on the outside.

843
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: We know how we've struggled in the past game. They

844
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 1: have a decent defense. Defense isn't as bad as ours

845
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 1: has been playing right now. I look at it the matchup,

846
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: but look at the numbers. I'm just like, why should

847
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: they win this game? And they won one time in

848
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh in twenty years one time, yeah, and that was

849
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Last time we were there, yeah, I think

850
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: it was eighteen nineteen. Yeah, So like that chat, which

851
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: is kind of weird. And they changed the rules. I

852
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: think on how we do divisional games and crossovers now

853
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: because now you don't get to go to the you

854
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 1: know the other, the AFC to their place, but every

855
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: eight years now I'm moving forward. Um, I can't remember

856
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say. That's not good. You're gonna say,

857
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: bumb Mell is an excellent point. I agree with you.

858
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: I'm changing my mind now. It wasn't excellent point. And

859
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: I honestly I was gonna bring a really good piece

860
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: to this, but I just can't remember now, so it

861
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, all right, but simple about simplifying. I guess, um,

862
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 1: do you think man Russell has been the guy Russell

863
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: doesn't miss. He's been injured, but he hasn't missed a

864
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: game or a practice. Now do you think losing Russell

865
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: that Shane waldron Sean will be easier this week with

866
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: Gino Smith at quarterback. Oh? Yeah, it's gonna be It's

867
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: gonna be easier. It's gonna be easier. Let me explain

868
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: to why you know easier and that, hey, part of

869
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: it is probably not as much pressure. Right, I'm gonna

870
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: answer the question for me while I was trying to

871
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: set the question the question up, but go ahead, Ah, yeah,

872
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: I let it. Okay, it's gonna it's gonna be easier. Okay,

873
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be easier because Gino's not gonna go

874
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage and check out of a

875
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: bunch of things. Gino is gonna go through his progressions

876
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: and hit the very first thing he sees open, rather

877
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: than I feel like where Russell does is like, look,

878
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: I know this is open, but because this is open,

879
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: the defense is going to react and this deep ball

880
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: is gonna be there. I think when they talk on

881
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: the sideline. Gino's gonna be like, yep, okay, I got

882
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: you less input. Now that ind input is you take

883
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: it from Russell Wilson because he's a good football mind.

884
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: He prepares, he's ready to go. But I'm sure at

885
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: some point Shane is like, all right, man, let's just

886
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: run the play, you know. But Russell, being who he is,

887
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: all the famer, he has input. I think Geno isn't

888
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: gonna be like, what you want me to do? Coach,

889
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: I got you making his job easier. They're gonna be

890
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: talking right after that fifteen second mark. Ball might even

891
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: be snapped right at the fifteen second mark. This is

892
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: his job easier. I think we're gonna find out what

893
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: kind of coach Jane Waldron is and this one because

894
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: there won't be any bailouts, you know, there won't be

895
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: in this magic get out of these certain rushes. Though,

896
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: I will say that Gino Smith impressed me with his

897
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: legs and his speed, you know what I mean. Really

898
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: he looks fresh, obviously he has. He hadn't played his

899
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: arm his accuracy to me, the only bad throw he

900
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: made was the last throw in the game where it

901
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: was an interception and it wasn't his fault. If we

902
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: don't slip with there's probably not an interception. I just

903
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: thought that was a forced two minute. There was a

904
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: checkdown that would would have probably got us a first

905
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: down in the first play, got us around the midfield.

906
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be something that's easier for Waldron

907
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: because there's gonna be a consistency that how the the

908
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: play develops, right, And so you're right. I think he's

909
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: gonna know what Gino's gonna do. I know how to

910
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: set this up. There's times where I don't know what

911
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: Russell's gonna do, you know, and so I'm not sure

912
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: maybe how to set the next playoff as well. So

913
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: I think it'll be easier. I don't know if it

914
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: makes it easier on the Seahawks, but I think you're right.

915
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: I think it'll may be from a play calling standby,

916
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 1: and then it will be probably be easier for shame.

917
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: All right, Jamal Adams. We'll get his first second on Sunday,

918
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: Yes he will. And here's why. All right, they've been

919
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: playing him like a strong safety. He's not a strong safety.

920
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: He's not a free safety. He's a high bred. He's

921
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: a guy that needs to be up around the line

922
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: of scrammers. I think we're gonna see more of what

923
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: we saw last year. I don't know how they're gonna

924
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: mix the package. It's it's it's more difficult because you

925
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 1: got Jordan Brooks in there, and you've got Darryl Taylor,

926
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: So you go, who are you pulling off the field.

927
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta pull somebody, and I'm not so sure. Again,

928
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: it's I don't know if they'll do it. Because Bobby

929
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: never misses a snap. I believe you got to arrest

930
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: these guys who are older. I have no problem going

931
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: in with a dying package and having Jamal Adams is

932
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: middle linebacker. Teams ain't running on third down, you know.

933
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: So if I got third and six, third and seven,

934
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: I got a truly another blitzer that they've got to

935
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: account for. He's certainly capable of covering backs and tight ends.

936
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: I just think we're gonna use him more around the

937
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. So, yes, this will be at a

938
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: Green Bay's offensive lines not very good. I think with

939
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger being the statue that he is, he already was

940
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: a statue, but he could move a little bit in

941
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: his younger years. The chances of him having a sack

942
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: this week go up because you naturally think, okay, you

943
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: have the pressure. Ben Roethlisberger. He's not gonna go anywhere,

944
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say no, and I'm just gonna say

945
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 1: no because I feel like kidding. Norton and Pee Carroll

946
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: think they can give pressure with this defensive line. I

947
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 1: think I think they look at they look at Daryl

948
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: Taylor and they say, look, man, we're gonna we're gonna

949
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: doalce something for Daryl. We're gonna put him all some stunts.

950
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna put him in a nine tag, We're gonna

951
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 1: do some things with him, and dropped Jamal into covers

952
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: like they've been doing. They've been playing them like a

953
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: strong safety. I would love for him to get a

954
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: sack this week. I just don't think it's go well

955
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: hard one second bump. Here's the other thing. So head

956
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: coach Mike Tomlin from the Pittsburgh Steelers, he's a big

957
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: fan of Jamal Adams. He's been watching the tape and

958
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: I think he thinks of Jamal Adams a little bit

959
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: like you guys have been saying, especially Paul dismentioned here's

960
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: him talking about Jamal Adams during his press conference this

961
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: week on the defensive side of the ball, looking at them,

962
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: they got some dynamic players. Man, that's strong safety. Man.

963
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: We got our hands full in terms of trying to

964
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: minimize him, not only in terms of in the box,

965
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: in terms of what he does in the run game.

966
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: But he's just an outstanding blitzer. Man. I spent some

967
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: time this summer delving back into twenty twenty tape and

968
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: just looking at some opponents and looking at some players,

969
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 1: and man, this guy is the most dynamic secretary blitzer

970
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: in football. I mean the rate in which he gets

971
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: to the quarterback that is something to be respected. It's

972
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 1: funny because too many people, to me, focus only on

973
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: what he can't do. Yeah, and they don't. They don't

974
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: watch what he does do because he's still they account

975
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 1: for him and he's still a freak coming at the football.

976
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a playmaker. Like for him to add

977
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: more saying, I like for him to make some plays

978
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: in the passing game. But this is where you said

979
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: something right before we did that. You go, I think,

980
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: Pete think we can get it with our front four

981
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: and Darryl Taylor which again four sacks five games. Let's

982
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: give him more opportunities. That's pretty impressive so far. But

983
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: I also believe that they know what they have, and

984
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: that is what Tomlin just said. He's explosive. You don't

985
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: waste that kind of ability sitting back in a three

986
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: deep zone or him playing a too deep That's not

987
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: his game though, and I think they've seen enough of

988
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: it to go. All right, let's get our best players

989
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: on the field to make plays. All right. We know

990
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: what he does well, we know what he doesn't do well,

991
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: and we shall see how they use him. On Sunday,

992
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: Morier things, he's gonna get it this this week. First second, Okay,

993
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: when we returned, we'll go inside the firm room. Darrel Taylor, Sackle,

994
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. Matthew Stafford finds the Sean jacksonport six a

995
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: yard bomb, Gino Smith to DK Metcal. We'll break those

996
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: down neck on Hawkslide. Thanks for listening to Hawks Live

997
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 1: every Thursday at seven o'clock right here on seventeen ESPN

998
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: on Michael Bumps with Paul Morier, and now we get

999
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: to be coaches. Morier playing in the league, he coached

1000
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: in the league he coached high school. I'm coaching high

1001
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: school ball right now. We're going to the film room, coach,

1002
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: and the first player we're gonna break down Daryl Taylor

1003
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 1: sax Matthew Stafford for seven yard loss. First from Tendanth

1004
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: to Seattle forty play fake Stafford, gonna stop, gonna look,

1005
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: gets hit Coach down back in midfield, getting jo him

1006
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: in the backfield. It is Daryl Taylor Daily at four

1007
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: sacks in five games. He's starting to be what they

1008
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: thought he would be when they drafted him. You know,

1009
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: a steal of a draft and I think he's going

1010
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: to be one of them. You don't impress me on this.

1011
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: He's lining up on the left side, he goes up

1012
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: against her tight end. It's just how strong he is.

1013
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: I think of him as a speed rusher mostly only yeah,

1014
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: but he's a bull rush guy too. I mean, obviously

1015
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: he has he's very strong with his hands inside, so

1016
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: you know, this is kind of a bull rush, and

1017
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,959
Speaker 1: he beats the tight end inside eventually, and it's just

1018
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: his effort at this point because after that there's nothing right.

1019
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he's kind of sandwiched win between the tackle

1020
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: and the tight ends. He's split those two. This is

1021
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: a This is an effort sax. So when you get

1022
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: that from a speed rusher who can also bull rush inside,

1023
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: pretty impressive. Bull rushing is almost standing straight up. It's

1024
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: not even like he has a leverage man. This is

1025
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 1: just a young man who wants to get out the football.

1026
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: You know those older states. I mean they're gonna use

1027
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: good technique and gonna get hands on the chess plate.

1028
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: They're gonna push and get through. This is just sea ball,

1029
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: get ball. I want a sax effort. I like that.

1030
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: It's a and you could make up for some technique

1031
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: if you just have a great effort and it's a

1032
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: good thing. You got the sack and you'll find us

1033
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: in almost every play there's someone open. But boys, sacks

1034
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: make secondaries look really good quickly. Yeah, so we need

1035
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: more of those a lot more. Okay, next play, Matthew

1036
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,479
Speaker 1: Stafford finds de Sean Jackson for a sixty eight yard

1037
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 1: game on third and ten. Stafford shot gun stout, Here

1038
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: comes the rush, steps up, I'm gonna let it fly.

1039
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: Got a man, it's Jackson, it's under throne. And he

1040
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: comes back and makes the catch and now turns up

1041
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: field to the thirty twenty five being chased as Jones

1042
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: was chasing him on a desperation play, Stafford throws it

1043
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: up for grabs. It's under throwne and the only guy

1044
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 1: that adjusts to it is DeShawn Jackson for at least

1045
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: seventy five maybe closer to seventy eight yards on that

1046
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: pass reception and run. Wow, you want to start, I

1047
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: go first, So no one can ever claim that we

1048
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 1: only show good plays okay by the Seahawks. So this

1049
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: one is actually something I wish we'd run more of.

1050
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: This is two man and so what that means we're

1051
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: running too deep with our safeties and instead of playing

1052
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: zone underneath, everybody's manned up usually inside trail technique, and

1053
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: there's you don't want a trail real far, you know,

1054
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: because you know you start creating space to run, you know,

1055
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: inside outside routes, and if you run a corner route,

1056
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: you know that's hard for the safety to come over

1057
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 1: the top on this. You look, this one is why

1058
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: we pay people big bucks. You've got to make this play.

1059
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: You know, this down, This is third down. This is

1060
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: actually LJ. Collyer's best rush of the year. It's awesome.

1061
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: The stunt he does, he destroys Stafford. Staffords sees the

1062
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: last second he's he's looking to his left, which, by

1063
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: the way, he would get because one of our guys

1064
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: falls down. I don't like this technique at all by

1065
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: our right corner dj Reid. Um. It's really hard to

1066
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: play man like that, you know, and and let somebody

1067
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: just keep breaking your cushion. Um destroys him. And so

1068
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: Stafford comes back side thinking he has a different coverage

1069
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: and and this this is actually should be an interception.

1070
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: I don't like how our corners are running this because

1071
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: we're trying to disguise. Let's just let's just be technically sound,

1072
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: and I mean, get up and bump. Take away the route, man,

1073
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: take away the time of the right. We're letting these

1074
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: guys run down free. I mean, our corners just let

1075
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: these guys get outside. So it now it's putting a

1076
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 1: ton of pressure on Jamal Adams. And this is why

1077
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't to me make the play. It's basically a

1078
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: go route on him deep and once they get past

1079
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: fifteen twenty yards, it's one on one wide receiver versus safety.

1080
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: And in this situation, he gets a little nervous of

1081
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: the guy's speed, gets turned more than he should and

1082
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: ends up. Jackson makes the play when it should have

1083
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: been an interception. But I would correct this this technique.

1084
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: Here's the word I don't like. I believe that's Sidney

1085
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: Jones that corner over to Shaun Jackson doesn't get hands

1086
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: on him. I'm a receiver. You do not put hands

1087
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: on me doing a route. I'm living good. Life is great.

1088
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to manipulate this whole situation. Another thing, I

1089
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: don't like that technique. You speak up. I understand they're

1090
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: gonna play a trail technique, but he is flat footed

1091
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 1: Moyer like he's there's no he's not on his toes.

1092
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Sydney Jones here. He's not on his toes.

1093
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: He's literally saying, okay, run by me. Then I'm going

1094
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: to try and catch up. Which I understand trail technique,

1095
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 1: but I doubt that you would coach it that way.

1096
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: Here's the good Jamal Adam sees it turns a run right,

1097
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: he's beating him to the spot, but it's almost like

1098
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: he's not even really looking at the receiver. He's kind

1099
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: of just saying, I'm gonna make sure I get on

1100
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: top and at least prevent a big play from happening.

1101
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: Where it's almost like, you know, and I never played

1102
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: safety in the league. I played at high school, Culver

1103
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: City High School back in California. But I'm turning and

1104
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: running and I'm running to the receiver. I'm looking at

1105
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: his eyes, I'm looking at his body language. Is that

1106
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: football about to drop? And that just shows and it

1107
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: gets your point where this week, right, don't put him

1108
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: in coverage, put him down in the box. That's just

1109
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: not where he's comfortable. Can he get better at this stuff? Yeah?

1110
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: The good thing is he's over the top, he's in

1111
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: decent position. He just doesn't locate the full to his

1112
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: credit though, real quick, do you think if this ball

1113
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: is not underthrown his Jamal doesn't make this play? Now,

1114
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: I was gonna make that next comment he again, because

1115
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: we we're not jam And again, I'm not even putting

1116
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: this on the corners. This to me, both corners are

1117
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: playing off, so they're trying to give him a three

1118
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 1: deep look and Jamal runs out late to the half.

1119
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 1: I probably I could spend thirty minutes just coaching all

1120
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: these things here. But so there's two things. That why

1121
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: it's it's so difficult for Jamal one. Jamal doesn't play

1122
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: a lot of cover two. My first thing that I'm

1123
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: seeing here is I have only one threat. I have

1124
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: one threat, and that's that left wide out receiver for Jamal.

1125
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,919
Speaker 1: Now if I had two wide receivers on that side,

1126
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: now I got to play this different. I got one.

1127
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 1: As soon as I see that one, I'm getting wider. Yeah,

1128
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: I've got my guy inside. I don't have to worry

1129
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: about anything inside. I'm getting wider and deeper. So now

1130
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,720
Speaker 1: this guy gets no, there's no jam and it's not taught.

1131
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: He's seven or eight years yards back. So what we

1132
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: talk about reroutes, right, you can't reroute a guy in

1133
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 1: the NFL seven or eight yards. It's a penalty. Even

1134
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: in college. It's they're they're coming at you too fast.

1135
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: Now I can do it at three to five yards.

1136
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 1: I can reroute the people because they're not at full

1137
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: speed in this case, Jackson's and attract me. So Jamal

1138
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: is immediately threatened. You see him, he turns to run

1139
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: because he thinks this is a go route, which, by

1140
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: the way, it's supposed to be. Yea, but call your

1141
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: hits are guy the quarterbacks so hard the balls underthrown

1142
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: it flutters and in that situation, it's just they made

1143
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: a play on us. Unfortunate in good position, unfortunate situation. Okay,

1144
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: last play. Geno Smith finds DK Metcalf for its twenty

1145
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: three yard touchdown first and ten here coming to blitz throw,

1146
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: Metcalf got its stay are you kidding? Man? From twenty

1147
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: three uf Jino Smith throws a perfect class over to

1148
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: the under Rochelle. They have metcap with those two thick

1149
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: mits renches up touchdown hawks. They're crawling within three sixteen thirteen.

1150
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: Now they're getting empty, so you know what they're doing.

1151
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: They're gonna throw the football here. Gino does not disguise anything.

1152
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: He gets into his drop and he's looking right at DK.

1153
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: Now it correct me if I'm wrong. More it looks

1154
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: like a zone. I believe it should have been a

1155
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: three D. But there's nothing to the flat. So everyone

1156
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: that starts to get a little depth there to start

1157
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: backing up. Gino knew he was going to DK here.

1158
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: There's no one else he was going to. I look

1159
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: at the technique of the corner of Rochelle. I think

1160
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: that's what we heard Rabels say his last name was um.

1161
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: He finds a football and kind of gets frozen. It's

1162
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: like a deer cotton the headlights. He goes there's the football,

1163
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: and his technique just leaves him. What DK does a

1164
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: great job of doing is leaving space on the sideline

1165
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: for a fade. If Gino puts the ball further outside,

1166
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: I think that Geno knew where he was going. The

1167
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: dp dB played horrible, tell me, and DK did a

1168
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: great job of just leaving space and then going up

1169
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: with his hands. Yeah. I'm not sure what to say

1170
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: on this. I'm what looking what the Rams are doing.

1171
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: They ran like a zone blitz. They bring someone off

1172
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: the corner. They drop a defensive lineman. So they must

1173
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: think we're going to the flood side, our right side,

1174
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: where there's three wide receivers. I'm going you're gonna leave

1175
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: this guy all alone with DK metcalf down in the

1176
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: red zone. You gotta be kidding me, and you're right

1177
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,919
Speaker 1: in the corner. For whatever he misjudges this, and even

1178
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: if he didn't, it's going to be a jump ball.

1179
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: I mean it's at worst, it's incomplete pass. I'm just

1180
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: impressed that Gino found the matchup he liked. He recognized

1181
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: what they were doing. He didn't pan it because it

1182
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: looks like they're about to send five or six guys.

1183
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: I think he recognized what the coverage was as well,

1184
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: which it took me fifteen times to rewind it. I'm

1185
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: still not one hundred percent sure, but I think they

1186
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: just said we're gonna play man up on the backside.

1187
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna flood everybody else over to our offensive right side. YO, touchdown,

1188
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: and you know, look, Metcalf, we need to throw more

1189
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: of these up there. Where the worst is going to

1190
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: happen is an incomplete best touchdown, next best PI. Yeah,

1191
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: I think Geno's a guy. I think I think Shane

1192
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: Waldrons he's got an easier job this week. He's got

1193
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: an easier job. All right, we shall see, Okay, when

1194
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: we return, we'll go around the NFL. Man, it's been

1195
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: a long week for Raiders in John Gruden, Urban Myers

1196
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: has some lofty goals. Are the Chiefs in trouble? We'll

1197
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: talk about all that right here on Hawks Live. Welcome

1198
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: back to Hawks Live. I'm Michael Bumps hanging out with

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01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: Paul Moyer. We're going around the NFL, And it's been

1200
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: a crazy week in the NFL, especially when you talk

1201
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: about John Gruden and the Raiders. Now we all know

1202
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: he offended about everybody in the book. No one walked

1203
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: away from this not feeling some type of way when

1204
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: it comes to Gruden, those emails and everything that went down.

1205
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: So but we're not gonna spend a lot of time

1206
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: on that, right he's been beat up all week. We

1207
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: want to get down to the team aspect of this thing.

1208
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: Where does these team go from here? Right now? The

1209
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: interim head coach a special team's coach, Rick Besacha thirty

1210
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: eight years in the league. He has been around different

1211
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: organizations for a while. There's some guys on this team

1212
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: who are qualified to be head coach. You got Tom Cable,

1213
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: you got Gus Bradley. I mean, there's some other dudes there,

1214
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: but they decide to go with the special teams guy.

1215
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: Why do you think they go with Rich? Yeah, they

1216
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,439
Speaker 1: got Rod Marinelli as well. There's a lot of guys

1217
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: that head coaching experience there. I've been around special team

1218
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: coaches that command a presence in a room, and more importantly,

1219
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: they're used to talking to the whole team because you

1220
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: have offensive and defensive guys on special teams that you're addressing.

1221
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: It's the one position coach that does that. Everybody else

1222
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: takes either you know, their defensive side, offense side, or

1223
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: position side. But I think in this situation more than anything,

1224
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: because obviously you know Gus Bradley could handle that situation,

1225
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: I think it's the least disruptive. It's one of those

1226
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: do you go from an offensive coordinator to a defense

1227
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 1: or defensive coordinator to a head coach. It's just the

1228
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: amount of time your game plan. And so now I

1229
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: go and take on a head coaching role, I've got

1230
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: to delegate other people to take on some of my role.

1231
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: And it's just you know, it's a trickle down effect there.

1232
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: It's a lot of moving parts. This is an easy

1233
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: moving part. Special team coach has a lease amount of

1234
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: time with them, has a lease amount of time really

1235
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: to do things. It's more about practice, prep and being organized.

1236
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: And I think in today's game it's even less now.

1237
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't put as much emphasis on kickoffs

1238
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: and kickoff returns. So I think that's it. And maybe

1239
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: this guy's dynamic, I don't. I don't know him. I

1240
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: couldn't say his name if you said it to me again,

1241
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: I do like it. But thirty eight years in the

1242
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: game that has I mean, I know we got other

1243
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: guys here with head coaching experience, but thirty eight years

1244
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: says something, you make a good point. He can talk

1245
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: to the team, and as a special team's coach, I mean,

1246
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: you'd take your work home. But it's not like you

1247
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: are just man, what am I gonna do on third

1248
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: and five when they when this defense does this, and

1249
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: you're not really scratching your head too much. As a

1250
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: special teams guy, you run what you run, you defend

1251
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: what they defend, and then you kind of move on.

1252
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: So now as a player, if I'm a player now,

1253
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 1: you've heard guys like Josh Jacobs speak out and say, look, man,

1254
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: I like the dude. He wasn't bad to me. I've

1255
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: been here a couple of years. You hear what Derek

1256
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: Carr said. He goes, look, man, I love the man,

1257
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: but you just can't talk like that if you are

1258
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: a leader in this locker room. You guys were three

1259
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: and at one point you're one of the hottest teams

1260
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: in the league. You lose two in a row. Yeah,

1261
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: your coach is caught up in this scandal. Where do

1262
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: you go from here? Well, I think you got to

1263
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: find somebody that the team trust, you know, I mean

1264
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: to the core. You know, there's there's gonna be things creep,

1265
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: doubt creeping on everybody. What do you really say about

1266
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: behind my back? And by the way, we may be

1267
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: talking about this every week because what the NFL did,

1268
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: they opened up a can of worms, gonna open up

1269
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: every email and we're gonna go back as far And

1270
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: by the way, what he did is wrong, But twenty

1271
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 1: years ago there's been a lot of wrong. Yeah, the

1272
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: culture of the NFL of the world is definitely changing,

1273
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: and he is caught up in all of that stuff.

1274
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: You heard him. A lot of players say he's a

1275
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: good dude, but what he said is what he said,

1276
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: and it is leaked and now he has to deal

1277
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: with it. Now. Another coach has been dealing with some

1278
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: stuff this year. Urban Myers man, you know, he had

1279
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: his deal a couple of weeks ago about him staying

1280
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: home and hanging out at a bar whatnot. But he's

1281
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: got some lofty goals this year for an on five

1282
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: Jaguars team. You know, I like our identity right now,

1283
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: if you say, what's the identity the Jacksonville Jaguar offense,

1284
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: it's a physical offense that runs the ball and balance.

1285
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: You know, our goals all is two fifty two fifty.

1286
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: I want to say we were two fifty two hundred.

1287
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: You know, that's what we want to be. Our tailbacks

1288
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: are running hard, both of them. I don't think he

1289
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: met two fifty too fair. I think he met We

1290
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: used to be two fifty fifty in college. Now we

1291
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: want that balance. But look right now, he's making so

1292
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: many mistakes and it's just you go, what are you doing?

1293
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: He doesn't look like he's having fun. It doesn't look

1294
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: like he enjoys. I think the only thing he does

1295
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: care about is don't lose. I don't even think he

1296
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: cares about winning. I've never seen somebody who's that stressed

1297
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: out about everything. And you know, he doesn't control the

1298
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: things like he used to do in college. You get

1299
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: the best players, you're gonna win eighty percent of your games.

1300
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: You do a decent job of coaching and motivating, you

1301
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: start winning ninety percent of your games. He's he's a

1302
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: good Motivator's proven that with younger people. These are adults.

1303
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: It's it's even across the board. You have to learn

1304
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: how to deal with losses. You have to, and no

1305
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: one likes it, but you have to. He looks whooped.

1306
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,919
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll do talk to talk next week.

1307
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: Does he make it through the through the year? Jac said,

1308
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: he said he might not make it the next two

1309
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: or three weeks. Well, I'll disagree with that, but I

1310
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: think this latest scandal, man, it's just leaders I'll go

1311
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: back to the Gruden thing. So I've you know this week.

1312
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: You know it's been brought up a bunch. People in

1313
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: leadership are absolutely hell to a higher standard and you

1314
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: have to. You are leading people. They can't doubt you

1315
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. They have to know not just to

1316
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: trust that, I truly trust you that you're fighting for

1317
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 1: me ever and you have your the very best for

1318
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: not just me but everybody. I thought the guy from

1319
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: the Charger's head coach, his was awesome today and he's

1320
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: stay late and he's a young man, but you know,

1321
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: sometimes maturity isn't just in years, you know, really mature

1322
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: and just so yeah, yeah, it's just yeah. Anyways, I

1323
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: think Urban Myers is um he's he's he'll be done

1324
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 1: by the end of the year. Just right now, you're two,

1325
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: eighteen past one twenty nine run you're one five. I

1326
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: think he's digging deep into what cliche and I say

1327
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 1: this week, what can I do to get these guys going?

1328
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: You know what you can do? Motivated thirty five year old,

1329
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: You get your butt back on the plane, You come

1330
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: back to work. You addressed the team on a Monday,

1331
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: your game plan. You show up every day. You show

1332
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: them I'm oh in five, we are O in five.

1333
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: But my worth ethic does not change because these grown

1334
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: man can sniff that stuff out. You can sniff it

1335
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 1: out as an eighteen year old, but you can't say nothing.

1336
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: You're there, You're you are locked into that program. Four

1337
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: years different now transperportal, but traditionally you're locked in. You

1338
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: can't do that. We're grown man. You couldn't have flown

1339
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: home with the team, taking your private jet back to Ohio. Crazy.

1340
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: We used to let players off if they were close

1341
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 1: to home. When we were on a road game and something,

1342
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 1: we'd let a couple of them go from there. It

1343
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: made sense most of them. We still made it go

1344
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: back team to the facility because we needed to do training,

1345
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: and we rarely gave the guys the first day off.

1346
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 1: We gave him. You know, after that, unless you're on

1347
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: a huge winning streak. It's just beyond weird to me.

1348
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: And so he's lost that team. I don't think he

1349
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: which in two or three weeks. I don't think they

1350
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 1: fire him. But he's just made two mistakes. He'll be

1351
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 1: gone by the end of the year. Before we get

1352
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 1: out of here. Though he said what he said. He

1353
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: said two fifty for two fifty. And here's the thing.

1354
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 1: He did that twenty times when he was at Ohio State, right,

1355
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: So he could have been thinking about that, but he

1356
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: said it in the quote. You know, we had two

1357
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: fifty and two hundreds, so he's thinking about it. Just

1358
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: for context, r everyone listening out there, that has happened.

1359
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: Let me count one time in the history of the

1360
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: National Football League. Okay, that's someone that a team has

1361
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: done that. There's only been excuse me, there's been fifty

1362
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: two times where that's happened. Ever. But the fact that

1363
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: someone's averaged that one, come on, man, it's it can't happen.

1364
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen. He said what he said, he was

1365
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: wrong and I'm telling you, Bump, if I said that

1366
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 1: to you in the locker room, what are he's saying

1367
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: back to me? That'd be like saying we're for sure

1368
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: going seventeen or now I'm shaking my head. But you

1369
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: know what he's doing this region for the stars. You

1370
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 1: might land on the moon. He ain't landing on the

1371
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 1: moon either though. He got gotta have a gotta have

1372
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: a dream. But sometimes we used to we used to say,

1373
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: but make him realistic. Yeah, and that's maybe where he is.

1374
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 1: All right, make them realistic here. Okay, when we return,

1375
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna recap this show. We'll give you final thoughts

1376
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: and the keys to victory. That's next right here on

1377
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: Hawks Live, Hawks Live every Thursday. Time to put a

1378
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: bow in this thing. Me and my guy Paul Moyer

1379
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: have been holding down for almost two hours. Now it's

1380
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: time to what do these guys need to do? The Hawks?

1381
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, what do they need to do to

1382
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 1: beat the Pittsburgh Steelers. They're thirty first against the past,

1383
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,759
Speaker 1: they're thirtieth against the run somewhere around there. Flip those numbers,

1384
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. They're thirty second overall on defense. How

1385
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: do we fix this. Well, stats are more important people

1386
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: locally and their team. You know, we're looking at we're

1387
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: thirty second and what are we against the rush? They're thirty,

1388
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: twenty ninth, whatever the number is. And then we happen

1389
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 1: to go look at the Chargers, and the Chargers I

1390
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 1: have a great coach and one of the best minds

1391
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: on defense. Their thirty second yards a game against the rush,

1392
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: thirty second yard average rush and this guy is anybody

1393
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: thinking their defense is lousy? So so my point is

1394
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 1: we hone in on stats more here. So what do

1395
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 1: we have to do? Wellok, we just need to start

1396
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: making the key downs a key player. We gotta start

1397
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 1: coming up more with those than they do. I mentioned

1398
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 1: this earlier. We have three plays last week that costs

1399
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: US twenty one points. We scored a touchdown, Dwayne Brown

1400
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 1: got a holding penalty on him. One of our highest

1401
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: paid best players, Tyler Lockett, runs a double move wide open.

1402
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna go double digit leads. Russell overthrows him. I

1403
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: get it, he had pressure into breaking his hand on

1404
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: the throw, but he overthrew him on that I'm not

1405
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: underthrew him. So he missed that throw. And then the

1406
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:56,759
Speaker 1: Jamal Adam wins uncover two again. To me, he needed

1407
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: better help technique from the corners and everything, because it's

1408
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: too bad. We had a great pass rush on that

1409
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 1: play from LJ. Callier. That's an interception at worst, we

1410
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: knock it down, we get off the field that we

1411
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta lead, and now we're giving up.

1412
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 1: We get and they end up getting a touchdown on

1413
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: that drive. That's twenty one points on three plays. Now,

1414
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 1: if we make those three plays, we're not even having

1415
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: this conto. We gotta we gotta make three big plays

1416
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 1: in this game on Sunday, and it's a rat. Well,

1417
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,719
Speaker 1: we I had a coach. I always said, there's five

1418
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:30,440
Speaker 1: big plays in a game that are fifty fifty situations

1419
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 1: or as I mentioned, you got a touchdown, you gotta

1420
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: holding penalty, it's a big You gotta come up with

1421
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: three of those five. Well, I just gave you three,

1422
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 1: so I know we didn't win those five, right, Yeah,

1423
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: And that's often what the game comes down too, because

1424
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 1: it wasn't like the Rams whooped up on us. I mean,

1425
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 1: we're up seven to three at halftime. We really again,

1426
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: we should have been up fourteen to three. We missed

1427
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,759
Speaker 1: a field goal, I mean, got a touchdown call back.

1428
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if people forget this stuff,

1429
01:11:56,240 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: do they honestly do? You know? But those are huge

1430
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 1: moments in a game. And now we start saying, okay,

1431
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,520
Speaker 1: what's wrong here, what's okay, let's look at the statistics.

1432
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 1: We can't stop anybody. We I thought we played pretty.

1433
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: We did play well in the first half, and they

1434
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 1: got us on a couple of drives. In the second half.

1435
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 1: We just ran They ran a couple of routes. We

1436
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:18,799
Speaker 1: just didn't adjust here. You can't so you can't ignore

1437
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 1: the statistics, but you can't dwell on them because it

1438
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: doesn't tell you exactly what happens in a football game.

1439
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,640
Speaker 1: A football game isn't like baseball. Word the data is

1440
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: so important, right. We've seen teams out gain a team

1441
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 1: and still lose the football game. We've seen a team

1442
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 1: win the turnover battle and still lose a football game.

1443
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: I think football is a little different now. For this

1444
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: offense to get going, we used to say kiss right,

1445
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 1: keep it simple, silly silly is I changed that word

1446
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 1: because I might get caught up ten years from now

1447
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 1: from saying that other word. I might get fired. So

1448
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: it's keep it simple, silly. I think that's what you

1449
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 1: gotta do on offense. Just keep it simple. I mean,

1450
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 1: in simple means that it's doing what we want. It's

1451
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 1: the Hawks to do anyway, is get the full ball

1452
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: out of your hands quickly and run it and put

1453
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 1: drives together. But the defense is going to have to

1454
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 1: make a couple of plays this game. For these guys

1455
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 1: who win this ball game, I think, Man, I don't

1456
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: know if I think we will. I'm optimistic that they're

1457
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: gonna rise to the occasion. I think losing Russell Wilson

1458
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 1: makes everybody hyper focus. It's like, you know, an injured animal, right,

1459
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 1: You're dangerous at that point. There's nowhere to go but

1460
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 1: go to play well. I mean, this is what you're

1461
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: paid to do. You don't have to worry about mistakes anymore.

1462
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: Your best player or most important player, Russell Wilson's not

1463
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 1: on the team, and so you cannot put all the

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Speaker 1: pressure on Geno Smith on this defense. You gotta go

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 1: win games. We gotta get turnover, we gotta get stops.

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01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: We gotta stop having so many first downs. We gotta

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01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: give our offense a ton of opportunities I hope we

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01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 1: can run the football. This would be a great game

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01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: for it, you know, if we if we're not running

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Speaker 1: it well and we're you know, it's two downs and

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01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 1: now it's third down to six, third down to six.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're putting a lot of pressure on Geno.

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01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: He's capable of doing it. We've got all the skill

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01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 1: players in the world. This game, this game is probably

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Speaker 1: the most critical game of the year to make the playoffs,

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01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: because I believe if they win, they win the next two.

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01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, we're feeling pretty good

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01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 1: about ourselves. You know, we're five and three, We're going

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01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 1: into a bye week, you know, with nine games to play,

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01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: maybe we get Russell back confidence in the defense, kind

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01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 1: of like last year we started to see, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: the hope. I don't know yet in my heart of hearts,

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Speaker 1: if I completely believe it. Yet, I feel like we're

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01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 1: gonna know. A quarter into this game, I think we

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01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,560
Speaker 1: do a pretty decent job. And you know, I'm not

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Speaker 1: even gonna say that because we've been wrong, because halftime

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01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: we going up seven three, But even last week was

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01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: the last week they go into up in halftime seven

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Speaker 1: and three. Last couple of weeks and you even said, like, yeah,

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01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 1: they're up, but I don't like the way they have

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01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: been playing. Um again another way, stats will full you.

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01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: The score will full you sometimes like, oh, well they

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01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: were up, but they weren't playing the best football. A

1494
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: couple breaks go their way. You miss a field goal. Here,

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01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: look at the forty nine is game. You miss a

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01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,799
Speaker 1: field goal, you miss a pat you get a drop

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Speaker 1: on a kick return by cannon number forty eight or

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01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 1: forty nine. You take advantage of those things. But we

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01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 1: look at the stats and the forty nine is win

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Speaker 1: that game. Let me ask you this. You go on

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01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 1: the road, and the way we've won over the last

1502
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:30,560
Speaker 1: few years, been one of the best road teams in football.

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01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 1: But it takes usually a special leader to lead you

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01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 1: in there because and it takes special leader to lead

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01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: at the end to win games. And we're not gonna

1506
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 1: have Russell Wilson. And he's the emotional he believes, I mean,

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01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 1: he believes when they get on that plane and they land,

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01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna win this game. And while he may be there,

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01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna be more as a cheerleader. How big is that?

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01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:58,639
Speaker 1: Just losing that emotional leader into these terrible yellow towels

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01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 1: being waived all over the play. Yeah, I think that's

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01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 1: big because you look at Russell Wilson and he makes

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01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: you believe like, yeah, we got a chance to win

1514
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 1: this game. I think you these players look at Gino

1515
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: and say, yeah, we can win, but we gotta make

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01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 1: sure we have his back. Instead of the other way

1517
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: arounds where Russell is going to get us out of

1518
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: some stuff. We're like, look, we gotta be ready to

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01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 1: help Gino out when he needs some help. And this

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01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 1: is where the defense you're right, as you just said, man,

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01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 1: that's that you're that leader has to come out loud

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01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 1: and strong and back it up. And I'll get I

1523
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,799
Speaker 1: have one example. We lost Kenny easily and Jeff Bryant

1524
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go how far back too, fantastic football player.

1525
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 1: We had a ton of injuries, playing horrible. We just

1526
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: we were five and six, lost three games in a row,

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01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: and we we were, you know, a Super Bowl contender.

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01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 1: They went down, We had a short week, played on

1529
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 1: a Thursday night, or actually played Philadelphia, played ugly and

1530
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 1: they weren't very good that year, and beat him at

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01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: the last second, and we went on a role. We

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01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 1: won five games. We couldn't be stopped. The offense. Dave

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01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 1: Craig and them just said, hey, you guys, just do

1534
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 1: your thing. We're gonna score in every possession, and they

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01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 1: believed it. When I'm barely kidding. They scored on almost

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01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 1: every possession in the last four games of the year.

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01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: They were that hot. And then our defense man we

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01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 1: rallied around that too. So it takes somebody from the

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01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 1: other side when you lose your leaders to say it,

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01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, because the offensive guys said yeah, Gino can

1541
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 1: say yeah, but it's the other side that's really got

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01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: to step it up. Yeah. I don't need the offense staff.

1543
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: I just needed to keep playing as is. So I

1544
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be fascinating to see how that we've

1545
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 1: we've never experienced it without Russell, first time, first time everything.

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01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 1: Who's gonna step up on that defense and lead the way? Man,

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys hanging out. Special things to Ray

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01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 1: Fidopaul Though, Kobe Parkinson, and John Clayton for joining the show,

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01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 1: our board operator Brady Robic, and our executive producer Nasa Choby.

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Speaker 1: The Seahawks pregame show was live this Sunday, starting to

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Speaker 1: get at two pm. Until next time, I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Michael Bombas with Paul Morrier. We'll be back next week

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Speaker 1: right here on Hawks Live