WEBVTT - X-Men '97 S2E07: "Strange Land, Savage Heart" 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:00.600 Warning. 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:06.120 This episode contains the spoilers for the seventh episode of 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:07.720 X Men ninety seven Season two. 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:09.680 Be warned, Be warned. 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:29.640 Hello, my name is Jason Sepsion and on Merseay Night, 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:32.480 and welcome back to x Revision of that podcast where 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:34.479 we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:36.879 pop culture. Coming you from ir where we're bringing you 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:37.680 three episode of a. 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:40.120 Week most news on Saturday, past news. 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:43.560 In today's episode, it is X Men ninety seven, Episode seven. 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.360 And guess what, guys, we were waiting for it because 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:47.120 guess what it's called. 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:50.680 It's called Strange Land Savage Hawk. I wonder where we 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:55.280 could be going. But first we. 0:00:55.240 --> 0:01:00.200 Open on a flashback to Genosha. We see Colossus and 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.000 Magic U the best. 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.560 Every time I see her, I'm so happy. It just 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:06.959 makes me so excited. 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:11.959 We see Colossus and Magic fighting against the Sentinel invasion Iliana. 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:17.600 It goes down courageously saving some mutants, but unfortunately he's 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:20.640 killed by Sentinels. We'll talk about this a little bit 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:25.640 more in the conversation, but this is so we're not 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:28.680 doing Legacy Virus because she dies. I was gonna say 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:32.040 this plotline happens in the comics, but it is spurred 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:34.679 on by Iliana's death by the Legacy virus. So we 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:38.080 cut to the President. The President. We cut to the 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:43.160 President where Graydon Creed, son of Victor Creed, a savor 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:49.280 to what, a brother of Nikerawler, bouncing and a human, 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:52.400 absolutely a human. He might have the recessive ex gene 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:53.360 in there somewhere, but. 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:56.120 I never got set off and not it. 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.000 Never got set off. He is just a guy, a 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.560 very angry guy. He's announcing his can to receive the 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.720 President of the United States, and he's running on a 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:07.520 very very strict anti mutant platform. But the rally is 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:15.680 attacked by the acolytes, very cool evil costumes. And these 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:22.600 acolytes are mutants who follow there what they perceive as 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:28.040 the teachings and inspiration of Magneto. And they are led 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:39.680 by Exodus, the mutant dove Juppyopa Jason. Many people will 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:45.760 fight you down when you see Magneto light so crazy. 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:53.680 Exodus is joined by Colossus, who has been who's furious 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:57.960 and rightly so at the yes at the genocidal attack 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:02.239 by the by the Revamp Sentinels that wiped out Genosha 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:08.880 and killed his Sister Exodus movement of Your People demands 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:13.880 that all mutants detained by X Factor fee free them, Freedom, 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:20.400 free them, Free his people. Professor Xavier, CEO of X Corp, 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:24.440 talks with Val Cooper, who's trying to get approval to 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:27.720 activate X Factor, but Exavier already knows what, you know. 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:31.359 He's like just he's like, don't worry, I know where 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:33.480 the Acolyte base is. I'm gonna take care of it. 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.640 You're not sending your mutant attack dogs, you know, your 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:40.800 government attack dogs on it. He sends a team. It's Beast, Polaris, Rogue, 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.280 Nightcrawler and Bishop and the ex Jet and they go 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:49.200 to the Savage Landes have set up. I love it. 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.880 So immediately the X Men are hit with an energy 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:57.120 field that strips them of their mutant powers. Crazy powerless. 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.920 They just like are just getting They're just getting rolled. 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.880 And also, yeah, we went talking about him lost episode 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:07.440 that is very similar to something mister Sinistha has in the. 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:11.120 Comics, you know, So that was very exciting. 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:15.680 Very sinister coded. The jet goes down, Bishop flies out, 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:19.279 Lorna jumps out, rescues him, and the X Men are 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:23.800 separated of Lorna and Bishop land somewhere separate from wherever 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.960 the X Men have landed after the jet crashed, and 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:32.080 Bishop realizes that there is this tower. So crazy, there's 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:36.359 a tower that's broadcasting this inhibitor signal. But because of 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:41.120 Bishop's mutant power to absorb energy, he is acting like 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:45.560 as a battery cell that is absorbing this inhibitor tower energy, 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.680 like the mutant powers that are being suppressed or being 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:53.040 somehow rerooted to him, and so like this vast reservoir 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:56.400 of energy is building up in him and he is 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:59.880 very close to not being able to control it anymore, 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.400 which I think I certainly, and I'm sure you did 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:07.120 as well. This as a metaphor for like his massive 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:14.279 orgasmicing like he's so crazy, I can't hold God, go 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:20.200 don't touch me like that, this was crazy, I would. 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.360 Crack it up. You still got that freaky ship in there, 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:23.720 I know you. 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:30.240 The Colossus and the Acolytes rescue the X Men, and 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.240 you know they they deal with them as like mutant 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:36.599 to mutant, but you know this isn't the pure mutant 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:39.560 terrorism of the early Magneto days. But they're also like, 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.280 no creed is a creed is a criminal against me 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:48.360 and we'm night Crawler convinces Colossus too. It's like, hey, 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:49.440 we'll let us see your base. 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:51.159 It's the European accents. 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.760 Yeah, maybe you know, maybe I see it, and I 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:58.920 am convinced, and I'm going to show up. 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:01.440 And listen. 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:06.320 If you convince me, Zim moves open hearted and faithful 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:10.440 of all the X Men, then imagine how that will 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:12.480 seem to the rest of you can kind and to 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:16.760 the public. So the acolytes are like, okay. They go 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:18.680 in there and we learn that it's like a mini 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:23.520 Genoshit in the Rizland jungle. Varilites are providing shelter to mutants. 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:28.120 There they honor all fallen mutants, like Magneto, like Magic, 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:34.000 and Colossus obviously has found a purpose there. Nightcrawler then 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:43.080 springs his rhetorical trap. He says, where I request a 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:50.440 trial for grad and Creed po they my brother, Yes, 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:55.320 he is my brother. We are both the children of Mystique, 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.840 and say what he is? Say what tooth is his 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.400 father's sable to the Mystique, which must have been the freakiest, 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:08.599 craziest sex ever ever ever, And so therefore he is 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.560 my half brother, and I request the trial for him 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:16.600 and for them all, I request that Colossus preside over 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:22.280 the trial, and if you win Exodus, I will join 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:25.760 the Acolytes happily as a mutant terrorist or whatever you 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:27.760 call it. Let's take a quick break and we'll be 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:43.840 right back at the trial. Exodus. Mutant of your People 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:50.440 argues that you know, Creed is a remorseless anti mutant 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:56.480 bigot whose you know rhetoric is directly a threat to 0:07:56.560 --> 0:08:02.080 mutant kind everywhere. Yeah, night Crawler flips it and focuses 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:06.000 on Creed's parentage and the fact that we talked about 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:06.640 bad parents. 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:09.440 Serious, We've been talking about them a lot this season. 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:15.200 But again, this is an episode that frames Charles's ideology 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:19.040 as like, listen, it's imperfect and it's naive, but it's 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:24.640 also got some strengths, and hear it highlights the strengths 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:29.040 by contrasting it negatively with the mutants supremacy ideology. So 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:34.600 Mistike and Sabertooth, yeah, basically abandoned Creed when his mutant 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:39.520 powers didn't come out. He turns thirteen. Now, sometimes you 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:41.800 need like some sort of shock or some sort of 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:45.720 like heightened emotional state or something very terrible to happen 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:47.640 to force them to come out. I don't know if 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:49.800 they tried doing stuff like that, which is. 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.320 I was gonna say, did they I would not put 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:52.920 it pass it. 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:55.760 If they kind of tormented them, that would be a 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:57.920 really interesting kind of backstory. 0:08:57.960 --> 0:08:59.800 Actually I would not put it. 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:04.440 Sabertooth to torment his child to try and get the 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.360 power to come out, but but it didn't happen, and 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:11.760 they and they abandoned him. And so Nightcrawler is arguing 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:17.200 that he is a product. His hatred is not purely 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:22.240 a genocideal anti mutant hatred. He hates his parents for 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:25.720 abandoning him as a child and leaving him, you know, 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:31.800 vulnerable to the world. Exodus says, movement of mutant of 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:33.240 the people says. 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:37.480 Shut the up and tell me who want to try? 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:43.000 Yea Colossus, what do you think? But because Colossus that's soft, 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:47.920 that big, soft hearted rush shit that he is, he 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:52.720 is hesitating. Exodus realizes and probably read his mind, Like, 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:56.560 let's face it, we shouldn't mention that Exodus is a 0:09:56.760 --> 0:10:03.120 Omega level mutant that has like telepith, the telekinesis. I believe, like, 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:08.480 oh my god, remember he can like drain like mutant 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:09.920 essence like see. 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:14.040 He's he's a crazy power, like he's another person who 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.120 was mistaken for like a pharaoh throughout history because he's 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.679 so powerful, you know, he's like like es. 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:24.880 So he probably read Colossus his mind realizes that he 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:28.440 was going to go against him and attack. He just 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:33.280 like attacks Classus. There's a big fight. But before Exodus 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:37.360 can really unleash against everybody on all the heretics, the 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.880 Inhibitor tower explodes, have. 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.559 Blown it up, Jason, I think they definitely had sex 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:45.720 to blow out. 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:47.040 I think they did. 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:50.960 I was just like, I was like that powers, you know, 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.439 they work really well together. They've already been playing on that, 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.200 I think. But I think they fucked to blow up. 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:56.040 How good for them. 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:58.840 They're flying on the back of pterodactyls and they fly 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:03.080 in Brawler and Exodus then have a duel. I have 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:06.080 a sword duel, which is an errow flint sor er 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.560 which is Exodus is making a huge mistake because this 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.680 is you're playing exactly into Nightcrawler strengths with this. 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:13.480 Are you crazy? 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:16.760 This motherfucker looks like a pirate, like he's gonna beat you, Like, 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:21.080 come on, night Crawler outsmarts. Exodus does the thing where 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:22.880 he has one sword in the hand and one sword 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:28.520 in the tail, which is fucking incredible. Exodus refuses to yield, 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:33.720 and then suddenly a shot rings out and we realize 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:38.480 that Creed has shot Exodus in the back with some 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:43.240 gun that was just like laying around. He grabs Nightcrawler 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:47.240 and it's like, cut us out of here. BRO means 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:51.720 a safe telepartment of safety, my brother. Nightcrawler teleports him 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:57.839 outside into the freezing Artist and basically is like, you 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:04.120 are truly the the terrible ruthlessness of appearance has truly 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.360 gone to you and just leaves him there to freeze, 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:10.840 crazy crazy and I love it it was, but like 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:15.280 it was very Nightcrawler does almost he chokes him a 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.040 little bit with the tail, but I mean, you always 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:19.600 knew that night Crawler was not going to do it, 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:23.440 but he should have done it at that shot. You shouldn't. 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.080 He should have done it. Night Crawl and Colossus returned 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:31.079 to the X Mansion. Colossus reveals and I believe he's lying. 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:34.440 He says, like, no, you didn't convince me by my friend, 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:39.280 I would have, but you would have given Celia. 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:42.840 Oh sure, bit no nonsense, absolutely non sense she would 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:43.720 have another bit. 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:45.160 That's also the. 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:48.000 Fact that Colossus goes back to the mansion. 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:52.800 He convinced him. But what Mattison, he thinks he convinced Eliana. 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.080 I think this is a little bit. This is a 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.920 little bit. This is kind of comics accurate in the 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:01.520 sense that, like Colossus thought that I was like a 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:02.680 better person than she was. 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:03.920 That's true. That's true. 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:07.120 He always saw her, he always saw her as like 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:11.360 this innocent his younger sister, who is so innocent. This 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.319 bitch was like the queen of a hell. 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:15.360 I was gonna say for a long time. 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:23.280 She would have absolutely decapitated Braden Creed make no mistake whatever. 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:28.120 At that point, Cable and X force parachute into the 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:32.080 temple and assens where they got the where they've tracked 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:35.040 the apocalypse signal. They go in there. It's all dark 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:36.920 and it's like this weird laboratory. They go in there 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:41.880 and they find Dune Dundune Apocalypse dead. He's dead. He's 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:45.760 like laying on a dentist's chair and he's like drained 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:46.640 of all his essence. 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:50.200 He's dead. He's yeah. 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:52.439 And Jubilie is like, oh my god, look at this, 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.600 and she picks up a playing card and that can 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:59.640 only mean one thing, folks, is damnit y'all. 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:01.920 Gambit endings in a row. 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.840 They knew that the people loved Gambit after last season, 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:06.640 so funny, let's. 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.040 Think of a break on back to discuss this episode. Yeah, 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:26.040 and we are back. Okay. I love this episode. Seems 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.840 some of the same issues in terms of the speed 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.440 with which we are moving past stuff, but this was 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.280 This was a fun one and I love the introduction 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:36.160 of the acolytes. 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.520 I was gonna say I think that out of the 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.600 three Bottle episodes, because this is a third bottle episode, 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.960 I think you could arguably say which Again, I want 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.200 to say, guys, we've talked about this before. It wouldn't 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.880 have technically been a bottle episode in a twenty three 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.120 episode season. It would have just been an adventure of 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.040 the week, and this is an adventure part of the 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:57.160 ongoing adventure. But we're getting so few that these really 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.600 do feel like specific bottle episodes as we live in 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:02.920 a prestige TV time and these are being released weekly. 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.040 Saying that, I think. 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.400 This is the one that works the best, just as 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:11.760 like our by itself fun adventure. Also, I mean This 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:14.840 is truly like targeted at us because we've been begging 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.160 to see the Savage Land again. We got those moments 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:20.080 with Rogan Magneto in season one, So yeah, I just 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:21.200 thought this was amazing. 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:22.040 Jason. 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.040 Also, when's the last time that we really got like 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:27.080 a very night Crawler forward story, Like, wasn't it great 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:27.920 to have him. 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.640 Since season one? Yeah? I love him. He's always been 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:35.360 the conscience of the X Men, Like even he is 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:40.840 more he is more dedicated to the Charles vision than Charles's, 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:42.360 Like he is the one. 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:44.640 The actual living it. It's tim and he is. 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.160 The one who lives it like Charles is just kind 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:50.080 of like, yes, I believe in this philosophy, but secretly 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:54.800 I'm doing edgy, shadowy shit behind the scenes, you know, 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:58.400 exactly every fucking time, right, But night Crawler is the 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:00.000 one who's like walks it like he talked. 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:01.280 He's an idealist. 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.080 Yeah, he's you know, in a very religious man as 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.760 we all know, like very very Catholic guy. Yeah, And 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:10.880 so I loved him as I loved him this episode 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.520 we get meet too fright with Swords, and you know, 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:19.560 his relationship with Colossus is always great, always great. 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.000 Well, let's let's talk a little bit about that if people, 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.760 because Colossus is not magic too, neither of them are 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.720 hugely famous. I'd say Colossus is slightly more famous post 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:31.200 Deadpool to the average audience. But getting to see them 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:34.200 is really huge because that for us, especially like Colossus, 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:36.880 that is part of the big thing that we always 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.120 talk about that was so revolutionary for the X Men, 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.000 which is giant sized X Men number one. He was 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:46.640 this Russian mutant, this international new character created by Lemwin 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.720 and Dave Cochrum are legends and like to see him 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:51.800 kind of here so sent a stage and to be 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:53.880 playing on a very emotional story arc. 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:55.600 For him, it was really cool for me. 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.280 Jason, you mentioned this in the recap that we're not 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:01.040 doing Legacy Virus, which I think is the correct choice. 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.080 But do you want to give like a TLDR and 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.359 probably why we're not doing it and kind of what 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:06.640 they changed here. 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.280 Well, it's the legacy virus first of all, was a 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:11.919 clear metaphor for AIDS. 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.280 Yes, that's the real reason we're not doing it. 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.720 Is like the nuance is just too hard to do, 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:18.760 it's too analogous. 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:19.800 It was not particular. 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:22.399 It was done by some thoughtful people and some not 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:25.800 thoughtful people throughout history. I think it's a smart choice 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:27.480 for them to switch that for Genosha. 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:31.680 Yes, so in the comics, Magic Magic dies of the 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:35.720 legacy virus in a very like slow and public and 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:40.240 agonizing way. And it is but it is her death 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:47.240 that ultimately drives Colossus into the arms of the Acolytes 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:49.840 kind of just as he just as he does here 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:54.600 and just as happens here classes with the cool like 0:17:54.720 --> 0:18:00.240 evil costume. Yeah, big shoulder, sharp shoulder pads, becomes like 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:04.960 the conscience of the Acolytes. Like he's exactly He's never 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:08.080 a true villain like Exodus, mutant of people and the 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:13.000 rest of them. So he really is constantly like he's 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.000 doing trying to like pull them towards the light. And 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:19.959 he later does sabotage some of their very important plan. 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.840 And obviously, as you got just from Jason's tld are there, 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.080 there is a lot here that they do not cover, 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:30.680 even in the transition to this being about Colossus after 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.399 her death on Genosha, they still didn't give us a 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.360 lot of time here with this relationship with the Acolytes. 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.520 But I did think it was really fun to see magic. 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:40.239 We talk about her a lot. She's one of our 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:44.720 favorite characters. She was also another character first debuted in 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:47.399 Giant Size X Men number one, such an important comic 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:48.600 for us back in seventy five. 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.400 She was just a child, a little baby. 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:55.040 I mean, it's really nothing like he saves her from 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:58.240 being run over by a wheat harvester. 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:01.639 It's what you would say, I would say, like retroactively, 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:05.399 you would say, that's like, you know, but when she 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:09.280 appears as magic magic, you know, which isn't for years 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:11.280 later on until like nineteen eighty three. 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:15.200 That what is it about this character that we love 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.959 so much? Jason? Why is magic so fucking cool? Like? 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:19.480 How does it work? 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:24.000 Her original mutant power is to teleport, so she can 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:27.880 tell she can create these teleportation discs and go back 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:29.840 and forth from places. And she was like a very 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.560 I mean she's she joined the New Mutants, like she 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:36.879 was at the school at age eleven or twelve orteen, 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:41.960 Like she's very, very young, and so she's got this 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:46.280 like very you know, with the sharp blonde bangs, this 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:51.040 almost like angelic like look to her. But yeah, her 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:54.520 teleportation power, the way it works is you don't just 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:58.600 it's not like it's kind of like Nightcrawlers in that 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:03.399 she goes to a separate dimension and the dimension is 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.680 how she shortcuts to wherever she fears back when she 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:11.080 teleports back into this dimension. But the dimension teleports through. 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:12.920 Is like a it's called Limbo. 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:17.520 Yeah, it's called Limbo, and it's a hell world populated 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:23.359 by demons, where her main like lieutenant is this like 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:29.879 purple demon. Yeah, who smokes a cigar, who becomes like 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:33.399 over time like her coworker, her best friend, her rival, 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:38.879 and she has been through various periods like trapped in 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:43.639 this hell dimension, and so she is just like a 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:49.119 very She's this character of like insane contrasts where she 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:54.359 is incredibly loyal to her friends, a hero through and through, 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.200 but also like has a dark side and has struggled 0:20:57.240 --> 0:21:01.080 with like this pull of the of Limbo, and it's 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:03.080 just really cool, Like she just looks fucking cool. 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:05.919 She's got a huge sword, she's got bad ass, fucking berzerka. 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:07.639 So no, I totally agree with you, Jason. 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:11.680 There's something about the contrast of you know, the small 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:14.480 girl who is also very dangerous. You know, we've always 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:17.160 that's a fun trope throughout history. 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:20.159 I love her. I think she's so bad ass. I 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:22.639 love her connection to Colossus. 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:26.560 I actually also really enjoy when they take essentially like 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:29.120 a character who's just been a background character for years 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:31.680 and then go, actually, this character is really important. That's 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:35.080 not just Colossus's little sister. Now she's Illiana and she's 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:37.199 got this power, and before you know it, you'll be 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:39.760 reading you Know, Magic, which was her series where they 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:42.159 kind of revealed her life in limbo. And this is 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:45.480 not obviously a visual medium, guys, but I do beg 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:48.240 anyone who is listening to this when you can safely 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:51.080 look up the cover for Magic issue for I own 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:51.880 that issue and it is. 0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:52.399 On my wall. 0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:56.280 It's her kind of sitting cross legged above a giant 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:58.800 pentagram with a sword in the air and her hair 0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:02.320 is swirling around. I still think about getting it tattooed 0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:05.399 on me, like regularly. It's one of the coolest covers 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:10.120 and I feel like it sums up everything. I don't 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:12.720 know who did four. It's such an iconic cover, but 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:15.159 this it was for the Storm and Iliana series, so 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:20.879 it was slightly it was a slightly less well known series, 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:22.400 and I can't I'm looking at my cover. 0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:25.880 I can't see the Oh, let's see. 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:28.160 Okay, So it was actually a Brett Blevins and Tom 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:31.560 Palmer cover if I look close enough. Yeah, it is 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:34.720 a crazy cool cover, and I think for me it 0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:38.680 sums up exactly why she's so cool. But I'm glad 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:42.040 you mentioned Sinkovic I sink Kevitch, because I actually also 0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:44.560 do think that a big thing we have to touch 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:46.760 on about why Magic is so popular is that new 0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:49.639 Mutant's run. Right, It's that version of her where she 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:52.520 is allowed to embrace the darkness and be traumatized and 0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:54.080 be vulnerable but be herself. 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:56.000 It's just such a wonderful character. 0:22:56.080 --> 0:23:01.119 And now, yeah, we should mention that. So Magic was 0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:05.800 dead for like fifteen years in the comic long time. Yeah, 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:09.880 maybe less than that, like twelve years whatever. She comes 0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:16.960 back because in the House in House of m when Scarlet, 0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:21.879 which creates this alternate to mention like Warp's reality to 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:26.280 create a world in which Mutant's rule, Eleana is brought 0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:31.800 back and Blasco, her purple demon buddy, senses that she's 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:35.119 been brought senses that she exists again and is like, 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:37.359 oh my god, my boss is back. I've got to 0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:40.560 find her and so then later and I forget exactly 0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:44.879 the mechanics, he resurrects her using some magic shit ye 0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:48.040 and brings her back. So I so, I wonder if 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:50.760 it says to feel like we have to do a 0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:53.480 House of M things somehow. 0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:56.640 Season three House of M is kind of it's that's 0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:58.040