1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Say hello and welcome to my favorite murder the minis. 2 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: That's right, we read you your story, your stories. 3 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: I want you to go down like this is a play. 4 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: And I keep forgetting a line. You know those in 5 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: cartoons where there's a person in like a little halfshell 6 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: that's like whispering lines to people. That's to me what 7 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: that hand is where you're just. 8 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: Like like, not the normal, not the other, do this. 9 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: No, and then this is yeah, and then the end. 10 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: I think you go first on this one. 11 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 2: Regular on minisode, Let's do this dode okay, Sale by 12 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: a Salute Washington State Fairy Edition. Hello Karen Georgia and 13 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: all of my other MFM besties. When I heard episode 14 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: five twenty four about the to Concordia and how the 15 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: captain did the sale by salute to impress a woman 16 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: and then it says sir with this emoji, I immediately 17 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: thought of the Pacific Northwest version of this exact nonsense 18 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: and knew I had to share our much less tragic 19 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: story with you. I live way out on a tiny 20 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: island in Washington State's San Juan Islands, about ninety minutes 21 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 2: north of Seattle. God, it's so beautiful. 22 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 3: The most beautiful. Like, what a place, What a gift 23 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 3: to live there? 24 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, a quiet, fairy dependent archipelagio. Yeah, it is where 25 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: nothing crazy ever happens except deer jumping fences to mow 26 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: down entire gardens or the occasional trespassing tourist, which is 27 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 2: why this story lives on in local legend. Back in 28 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty three, the Washington State ferry elwa was doing 29 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: a normal Sunday run through the islands. Think people heading 30 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: home cars packed with island essentials, and tourists scanning the 31 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: horizon of the Solish Sea for our beautiful resident Orcas. 32 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: I love an Orca. Okay, were they trying to kill billionaires? 33 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: Is that's why they were up. 34 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: There, beautiful resident Orcas. Meanwhile, the fifty seven year old 35 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: captain of the Elwah ferry invites a female passenger up 36 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: for a tour of the vessel's wheelhouse for the hour 37 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: or so sailing. 38 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: Has a fairy captain ever invited you up into the wheelhouse. 39 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: I've been on a fucking ferry, fucking ship, and no, 40 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: we got to get you a ship. 41 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: Get me on a ship, you'd love it. I get 42 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: so sick. 43 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: Get your own After a while. 44 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: The captain began joking about taking a little detour in 45 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: order to sail by the lovely passenger's home as they 46 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: approached the mouth of the aptly named Grindstone Harbor on 47 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: Orca's Island, where she recited She's like, oh, I live 48 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: over there, and he was like, let's drive by and 49 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: do a salute. 50 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: Even though we're on a ferry where there's all these 51 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: passengers and commuters. 52 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: That's right, that's called common sense, Karen. But I wonder 53 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: what's in his little flask. You know, at the time 54 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: the passenger thinks he's joking, such a detour would put 55 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: the l wah way off course. He is, in fact, 56 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: not joking, and when she realized he was serious, her 57 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: daughter later said, she began to freak out because suddenly 58 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: this man is steering an entire three hundred and eighty 59 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: two foot fairy into a harbor that it absolutely should 60 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: not be entering at full speed, because nothing is more 61 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: impressively flirtatious than would you like to see your home 62 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 2: from a dangerously questionable distance. Moments later, the el Wah 63 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 2: slammed into a submerged wreath in Grindstone Harbor. They hit 64 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: so hard that people a mile away could hear it. 65 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: The fairy's hull ripped open, causing around two hundred and 66 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars in damages. That's over how much in 67 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: today's money. 68 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: In today's money. This happened in the nineties. 69 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: This happened in eighty three, oh eighty three. 70 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: To say the number again, two hundred and two. 71 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: Hundred, two thousand, and thank you because Kelly put how 72 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: much it is in today's my six hundred thousand, seven hundred, 73 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: but closer. Yes, I was like in the ballpark, and 74 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: because we don't have time for that kind of shit here, 75 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: the fairy continued on, limping its way to Shaw Island 76 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: and then to Orca's Island, where it was patched up 77 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: before heading to Seattle for more permanent repairs. 78 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: So it actually was such a strong fairy it kind 79 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: of made it out of there anyway. 80 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: It was like, all good, let's just keep going, get 81 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: this over with. 82 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: What about all the people on the faerry whose teeth 83 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: hit the window or whatever? 84 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: Fuck It's. 85 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: Thankfully no one was hurt except for that one lady 86 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: in the incident. But here's the fuck dub part. Ready 87 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: for the recently widowed passenger. The woman and longtime Orcas 88 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: Island resident who was invited into the wheelhouse that day 89 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: was dubbed the Siren of the san Juans. 90 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: Always the woman says siren, as if this woman was 91 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: just out there luring this dumb ass like little more 92 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: to the left, captain, and. 93 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 2: Then there's some like music notes next, a little more 94 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: to the left, captain. 95 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: That's her song. 96 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: She thought this man was joking and then got stuck 97 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: into a situation she had zero control over. Somehow she 98 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 2: got labeled, her reputation was questioned, and she was turned 99 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: into a main character of this crazy story. Not quite 100 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: the classic victim blaming, but definitely it's weird maritime cousin. 101 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: It's blaming. 102 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: It is victim. How is that happen every time? 103 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: It's like the same thing where it's like Pam Bondi 104 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: and Christy Nome are being brought up on charges. 105 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: Fucking the worst of the worst. 106 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: Names are there, and their emails that they sent are there. 107 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: It's yet there, and they're on the news babbling in coherence. 108 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: They don't even fucking they disclose the victims' names when 109 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: they fucking put the documents out which is like. 110 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: Literally illegal, literally and that's not what you're supposed to 111 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: be doing. 112 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: And when they take the names out and they put 113 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 2: in the they just tract from. 114 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: The Siren of the scenes is the headline under which 115 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: we have been living. Yeah, and twenty twenty six is 116 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: when this whole thing cracks like that fucking fairy because 117 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: enough already and everyone has their eyes on it, and 118 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: everyone's paying attention not to say, listen, send both Christy Nome. 119 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 3: And oh Pam BONDI fuck goodbye, goodbye. 120 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: But let's go from the top instead of the fucking bottom. 121 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: Boys first started at the bottom. Boy said you're not 122 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 2: even going up here, okay, And then it says, of course, 123 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: the captain lost his job after over thirty years with 124 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: Washington State Fairies. And then it says goodbye bye. And 125 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: by all accounts, the female passenger's family seems to be 126 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: able to laugh about it now, although none of them 127 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: found it funny at the time. 128 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: I wonder if when Siren of the san Juans article 129 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: came out, her picture was in it. 130 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: Probably and their name and address, like from the eighty eighties, 131 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: right from this, here's her phone number. Yeah, they used 132 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: to do that you guys. They used to just give out, 133 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: like if someone's getting an award or one something. 134 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: They Chris Pharabanks as a child had his name and 135 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: address printed. 136 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 2: In their newspapers soccer star Chris Fairbanks and then the 137 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 2: child's address in there. 138 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, go visit them pervs. 139 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: Uh no, no, no, where are we? Goodbye? It's funny. Anyways, 140 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: Stay sexy and don't let a man blame you for 141 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: crashing a faery question mark xoxo and thank you eternally 142 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: for all you do. Kelly. Ps I celebrated my twenty 143 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: seventh year as a flight attendant on March fifteenth. You've 144 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: been asking for those stories lately, so fasten your seatbelts 145 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: and expect to hear from me again, Kelly. Please good, 146 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: that's only the first one. 147 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: Thank you, Kelly for sparking and igniting. 148 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, our new show Sirens of San Juan. 149 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: The mcnail LAIRR News Hour. Okay, I'm not going to 150 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: read you the subject line. It just says Dear Karen 151 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,679 Speaker 1: and Georgia, longtime listener, devoted acolyte. You recently mentioned parts 152 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: of the Golden State killer timeline that snapped a thirty 153 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: year old memory into focus a little googling, and some 154 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: deeply unwelcome pattern recognition later, I'm fairly certain Joseph Dangelo 155 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: is in my bedroom closet in the fall of nineteen 156 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: eighty three. 157 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: Fuck. I fucking love these stories. Oh my, I mean 158 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: I hate them. But when you have that realization that, oh, 159 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: that thing happened. I found the rope that one time 160 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: under my couch and there shouldn't have been a rope there, 161 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: but I couldn't figure out why. 162 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: Okay, please, sorry, no, no, that is I think of 163 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: the Golden State Killer's whole story. Him hiding shit in 164 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: the furniture to come back later is so upsetting mollicle 165 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: and upset it demonic demmonic like okay. 166 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: And then stealing one earring and you're like, where'd that 167 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: one earring go? That doesn't make any sense. 168 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: It's mind fuckery. Like days before the right you're gonna 169 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: do the worst thing. 170 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: You're not gonna call the cops and be like, I 171 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: think someone was in here, yeah, because they what they do? 172 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: They you lost an ear Oh my god. 173 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: No, he just is starting to rip the seam of 174 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: yea your am I okay? Okay, well, okay, and perfect 175 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: point because listen to this. We had just moved to 176 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: Woodland Hills Foothills, middle class suburbia, easy access to the 177 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: one oh one, and backyards attached to long corridors of 178 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: green space. I was fifteen and yes, Karen, yes, I 179 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: was a latchkey kid. 180 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 3: Georgia was too. 181 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: One afternoon I came home to find that we'd been burglarized. 182 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 3: But it was a weird one. The expensive stereo still there, 183 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: valuables untouched. What was missing? 184 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: My dad's wedding band, my mom's diamond lists engagement ring, 185 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: which had lost its diamond long ago during a diaper change. 186 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: Oh god, okay, resale value zero, symbolism one hundred and 187 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: a single twenty dollars bill from my bedroom Q teenage fury. 188 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: Also missing, my dad's enormous, very sharp chef's knife. Oh 189 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: but it wasn't stolen. It was placed pointy and out 190 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: on a shelf in my closet. 191 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: Goodbye, never going in there again. Oh my gosh. 192 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, just cemented. Over the time my parents assumed the 193 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: rings were taken for gold value. No one was publicly 194 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: talking yet about a man who targeted wedding symbols and piggybanks, 195 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: and moved through suburban neighborhoods via freeway corridors. True to 196 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: his m we also received a series of hang up calls, 197 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: heavy breathing, then a click. I carelessly assumed it was 198 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: some random creep who kept redialing because I kept answering, 199 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: not someone from my closet. Today, Following standard MFM advice, 200 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: I called my dad. I laid out my case. There 201 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: was a long pause. It's like six oaths. Then he said, well, 202 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: it is true. There was a rash of similar break 203 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: ins all over the neighborhood. 204 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: At the time. 205 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 2: Jesus. 206 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: The Golden State Killer was documented in Ventura County in 207 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one and Orange County in nineteen eighty six. 208 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: Woodland Hills is right in the middle of it, right. 209 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: Woodland Hills sits neatly between them, with the one oh 210 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: one running straight True. 211 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: If you call Paul Holes and say, I bet they 212 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: have those two rings still in evidence, Oh yeah, right right. 213 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: Also, it's so creepy. 214 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: Just go into people's houses and touch the things that 215 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: are like, this means love, this means. 216 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 2: Just like I know the confusion and fear I'm going 217 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: to put in your mind. 218 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, back in eighty three. My dad's response to 219 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: the incident was to buy a labrador. That's great, knowing 220 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: now that DiAngelo famously avoided homes with dogs. I give 221 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: full credit to Oreo for saving our lives. Oreo Cooky, 222 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: so thank you for giving me the framework to retroactively 223 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: terrify myself and then call every member of my family 224 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: to inform them they survived the Golden State Killer. Holy shit, 225 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: you're welcome family, SSDGM, and maybe check for knives in 226 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: your closet. 227 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: Emma, Long Beach, California, Oh my god. 228 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: And then it says ps turns out the Socow killing 229 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: started around the time DiAngelo and his wife bought a 230 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: second home in Long Beach. 231 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 3: Shut up, Emma, you. 232 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: Are the forest Gump of the Golden Steak killers. Missingly 233 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: that is still too close form. That is just unbelievable. Yeah, 234 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: because he would do it. 235 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: And then he'd have like a couple places that were available, 236 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: so that night, if he couldn't get into that one, 237 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: he'd go to this one instead, just to make sure 238 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: he always had one available. So he went back and 239 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: they had a dog, and he's like, well, it's not 240 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: that one tonight. 241 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,479 Speaker 1: Right, or somebody flicks their light on in the backyard 242 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: and he has to like go to the I mean right, dude, 243 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: dude and a half. Yeah, this is about a child, which. 244 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: It's funny. Hello MFM, FAM, Karen, Georgia, Vince and Pets. 245 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 2: When my mom and her siblings were growing up in 246 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: the Milwaukee suburbs in the nineteen sixties, the summer parenting 247 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: method was very much go outside until I call you 248 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 2: for meals, which was great for neighborhood kick the can, 249 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: bike races, et cetera, but it also led to power struggles, boredom, 250 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 2: and of course witchcraft. 251 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: That's right, because you would just be left to your 252 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 3: own devices all day. 253 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 2: I think we did all of those things. One summer morning, 254 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: my mom and her younger brother, Greg, Little Greg a 255 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: Little Greg, were bored with the usual games and decided 256 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: to set up the garage for a seance. As you do. 257 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: They hung up tarps, lit candles, set up a table, 258 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: and made a crystal ball from an old round cherry jar, 259 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: glitter and food coloring. Next thing needed a witch as 260 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 2: they hadn't been out in the neighborhood yet. They decided 261 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: it should be Greg. I guess my mom being a 262 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: girl seemed too obvious a choice to fool the other kids. 263 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: My mom found an old Halloween costume, painted Greg's face 264 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: and put on a mop. 265 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 3: Wig the smell. 266 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 2: She then went into the neighborhood to gather the neighborhood kids, 267 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: explaining that Greg had the flu, but that their aunt 268 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: was in town from far away and that she was 269 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: a witch, and did they want to meet her. Greg's 270 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: not here right now. 271 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: Greg's very, very busy with his work. 272 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: Right. 273 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: I know you've never seen Greg and the switch together, 274 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: but trust. 275 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 3: Me, but listen. As similar as they look, Greg takes 276 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 3: after his aunt. 277 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: Does Greg have a fucking mop for of hair? No 278 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 2: it does not. 279 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 3: Does he have gifts from the beyond? I don't think so. 280 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: But they want to meet her, which of course they did, 281 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: especially after my mom said that she could see the 282 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: future and call dead people that the witch could. 283 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 3: Oh, the mom got into it. 284 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: So the mom is the big sister. 285 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: This is the from Star story, don't you. 286 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: I thought like there was a true adult coming in 287 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: from the out with ape, you know, apron On being like, right, 288 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: I know it is a witch, right, which. 289 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: Would have been one by one the kids came into 290 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: the garage, wanting to know their future. No one cared 291 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: about the dead, I guess. One by one. My uncle 292 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: the witch explained that it was very grim and that 293 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: the children and their families would die all calves if 294 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: they did not shower. At midnight. The kids left, terrified 295 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: of My mom and uncle were delighted by their prank. 296 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: At twelve fifteen in the morning, my mom, uncle, Greg, 297 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: and their parents. I woke to eleven phone calls my 298 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: neighbors with freshly showered and scared little kids. My mom 299 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: and uncle were promptly grounded and probably whacked with a 300 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: wooden spoon. Yep, had that too, just really quick. 301 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: So sorry to interrupte, but like the first phone call 302 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: does down, I'm so sorry. 303 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: Yes, we'll take care of it. Yeah, the second the 304 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: phone hits. The rest of it in phone calls, just 305 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: rolling calls. 306 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: Uh. They were grounded whatever, probably walked to the wooden spoon, 307 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: but also extremely proud that their prank worked. 308 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: Right. 309 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: My mom grew up to be an og murderino who 310 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: still checks her closets for perfs and pervs on a 311 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: nightly basis. What the fuck? Yeah, and my uncle joined 312 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: a biker gang. 313 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: That's right. 314 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: Everything turned out great for these kids. I love them. 315 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: Thank you for all you do and encouraging people to 316 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: speak up, fuck politeness, discuss mental illness, and in general 317 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: be wonderful. Ps Karen, my my mom's birthday is May 318 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: twelfth and mine is my tenth. We should meet up 319 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: for cake. 320 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: Hey, a week of cake. 321 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: Say sexy and don't tell children to shower at midnight, best, Marissa. 322 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: It's fucking weird about parents that are just like, uh 323 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: he like the kids. 324 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 2: Like Greg like thought of a way to like control them, 325 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: but not in a way that was like evil, just 326 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: in a like fuck with you kind of what I say, Yeah, 327 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: like people like jump from the roof. 328 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: No exactly, it was You're gonna be cold and irritated. 329 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: It's terrified, but no one can really get me in trouble. 330 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: Really. Yeah, but I mean they did. 331 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: I guess. Yeah, so you know those parents were a 332 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: little proud. 333 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: Well, I mean because it worked. 334 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 335 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: How many times did you try to like convince neighborhood 336 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: kids of something? They're all like what shot at? 337 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: True? 338 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 3: Yes, never listened to anything. Okay. 339 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: Greeting's murder, Mavens and all the furry critters, including Steven's mustache. 340 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: I've got a secret life hometown that culminates with a 341 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: deathbed treasure. 342 00:16:59,160 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: Huh. Yes. 343 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: When I met my now wife, her father was a 344 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: trim carpenter living a modest life, but occasional comments hinted 345 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: at a more storied past. Most puzzling might be the 346 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: warning that if we were ever in the Bahamas and 347 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: were asked, we should say we didn't know him. I 348 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: love that and definitely were not related to him. My 349 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: curiosity got the better of me, and I did some 350 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: websleuthing and discovered a newspaper article from the eighties linking 351 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: him to a retired Major League baseball player who had 352 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: been arrested for running marijuana. Oh shit, my father in 353 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: law was listed as the co pilot of the private 354 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: plane they were using. 355 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 2: Dude took cocaine, beert. 356 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: He had never mentioned having a license or knowing how 357 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: to fly a plane. 358 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 359 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: To secretly discover Marty could fucking fly Sessa if you 360 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: wanted to. 361 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, my stepdad John has some like cool secrets 362 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: that you would not know. 363 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: Really, I'm not supposed to know that I shouldn't be 364 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: talking about on this national podcast. 365 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: I didn't say what that are. 366 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 3: Here's what I'm gonna guess what. He was a sniper 367 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 3: in Vietnam. 368 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: He wasn't he was in Vietnam. 369 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 3: Whoops, we're going back to the email. 370 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: John. My apologies, none of anybody's business, but thank you 371 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: for your service. 372 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: Okay. 373 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: This man's cool points tripled in that moment, and I 374 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: couldn't wait to hear the story firsthand. Unfortunately, my father 375 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: in law did not see this as his proudest moment 376 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: and shut down the conversation immediately. Those the old school 377 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: guys are they don't want to be You can't be 378 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: a criminal. 379 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 3: You can't be a bad guy. 380 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: You can't have done something in your use that you're 381 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 2: in talk about it on a podcast like I do. 382 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: Right, But that's thank god that we fucked up as 383 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: much as we did. We have so much to talk 384 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: about and zero shame, right, and kind of like I 385 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: need to get a little attentions here and there. Sadly, 386 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: he passed away about a year later, and thus begins 387 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: the deathbed treasure hunt part of the story. He always 388 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: told my wife, if anything ever happened to me, check 389 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: my chair. 390 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 3: I fucking love this guy. We always suspected he stashed cash. 391 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: Around, and now knowing his past, it made sense why 392 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: he liked to keep income undocumented. 393 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 2: Shit. 394 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: He also had a fear that every time he was 395 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: ill it was going to be the end, and would 396 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 1: write a letter to my wife telling her where to 397 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: find his stashes. So we had three conflicting treasure maps 398 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: to work with. Oh, what a joyous gift to give 399 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: your child. Please give this to me, Yeah when you died. Okay, 400 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: start planning it now. 401 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm thinking, where do I send her? 402 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: Where could I? 403 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: We found envelopes of cash taped to the bottom of 404 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: his dresser, tucked on top of the kitchen cabinets in 405 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: the lightning of his share, et cetera. The grand total 406 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: was ten K what I mean, But it wasn't. The 407 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: most valuable find in the garage was a locked file cabinet. 408 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 3: With no key. 409 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: It's like my mouth is watering just around the house. 410 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: We considered taking it to the dumpster as is, but 411 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: something told me if it was worth locking, then there 412 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: had to be something in there worth finding. Please use 413 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: that kind of deduction in your life. Why would this 414 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: be happening? Maybe I don't, Maybe I don't just write 415 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm so mad at. 416 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 2: I've seen the instagrammer of the guy who's just spending 417 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 2: every day trying to find a diamond. 418 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 3: Yes, I love him, and the shitt he's finding. 419 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: Me trying to find a diamond, a kitty cat. 420 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: A bead. It's so satisfying, so satisfying, and then you're 421 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: like nod. 422 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: Is the dim and today like yay, because I want 423 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: you to keep doing it. Yes, it's so cute. 424 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: It makes me feel like that guy was a mudlarker. 425 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: Watched his mudlarking videos. It's like, I'll never get to 426 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: do that totally, but I'll do it here in this gutter. 427 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: I love. It's so good. 428 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: There's like a little whatever you use is like a 429 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: screw driver digging out the cracks in the sidewalk. 430 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 2: All he finds the most random ship. But he's like 431 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 2: so calm an ASMR about it. Yeah, I love it. 432 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 2: We love that guy. 433 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: Diamond today, No diamond today, Day thirty two, searching for 434 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: a diamond. Okay, we're back in this email. Sorry, and 435 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: we're really going to focus this time. Okay, wait, it's 436 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: locked thing, locked file cabinet. Here we go. 437 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 3: God, damn it. 438 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: Okay, here it is, So I went to work with 439 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: a variety of prying and hammering tools. 440 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 3: Success. Among the receipts for every prescription. 441 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: He and his wife burns is from nineteen seventy seven 442 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: to nineteen eighty seven. I mean, that's what a lot 443 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: of my junk doors look like. Is things I'm afraid 444 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: to throw away. 445 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 2: I hate it if I need it. 446 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 3: A receipt for a prescription like stuff like that. 447 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: When they give you the thing that's all stapled and 448 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: there's all that information, I'm like, better keep it, okay. 449 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: So among those items was. 450 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: A folder that told the whole story of his misdeeds 451 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: during the time he ran a moderately successful typewriter ribbon 452 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: reinking company. We might they might as well put his 453 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: name in who else has that company? It's the most 454 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: specific job of all time, which provided a great cover, 455 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: oh my god, for all of his travel up and 456 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: down the East Coast. So a typewriter ribbon reinking company 457 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: is a cover for drug running. 458 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 2: Sure, I don't know. No one knows how that works, 459 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: so why wouldn't it. 460 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so specific. 461 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: It's like those independent vacuum cleaner stores on Bourbank Boulevard 462 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: where you're. 463 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 2: Like, what are you talking about? Six fucking vacuum post COVID. 464 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you still got a brick and Mortars. 465 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 2: Was nineteen eighty nine. If you fucking do this. 466 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: The good people at Mealy sending you thousands, hundreds of 467 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars. 468 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: Okay, So. 469 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: Typewriter Ribbon Reinking company, providing a great cover for all 470 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: his travel up and down the East Coast. In reality, 471 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: he was a legit drug mule running cocaine from Florida 472 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: to Massachusetts. He kept a newspaper clipping from a trial 473 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: where he turned state's evidenced and testified to taping bags 474 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: of cocaine to his body, and then in parentheses it says, 475 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, like you see in the movies. He hand 476 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: wrote his fine on the clipping. They got it wrong 477 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: in the article, so he was arrested and fined. 478 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, and he hand wrote. He was like, 479 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 2: they're wrong, it's just like I was. 480 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: Actually was sixteen thousand. He ended up doing a year 481 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: in prison. He sent my wife a handmade Christmas card 482 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: that year that was also in the folder, And then 483 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: we found the official letter from the Republic of the 484 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: Bahamas informing him he was no longer welcome in their 485 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: country ever. 486 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: We were just there. Yeah, good things. 487 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: Not a podcaster, I know, because it's gorgeous and their podcasting. 488 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: I really hate that he was embarrassed by this part 489 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: of his life, as I'm sure he had some wild 490 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: stories to tell. Yeah, I agree, Yeah, he should have 491 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: felt free and easy. He got through it. 492 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 2: But if you're a boomer and you're listening and you 493 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: have some crazy fucking story that you're ashamed of, we 494 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: are not ashamed of you. Please send it to us. 495 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: If this is a time that is very different than 496 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: pre Internet times where shame and keeping up with the 497 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: Jones is really controlled most people's lives. Not like that anymore. 498 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: We're fine with it. 499 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 3: And also, everybody loves an anti hero. 500 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but don't do drugs. I really did it. As 501 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: for my mother in law, it does explain why they 502 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: got divorced. We haven't told her that we discovered the 503 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: big family secret. I picture her as a Skylar White type, 504 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 1: enjoying the spoils but not wanting to know how they 505 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: could afford a corvette, stay sexy and don't let a 506 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: locked filing cabinet deter your treasure hunt tea. 507 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 2: Oh my god, tea. 508 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 3: Yeah that's so good. 509 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, a secret life is a cocaine runner is pretty incredible. 510 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: If your dad has a boring job or mom has 511 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: a boring job, ask them what they did. Ask them 512 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: to please finally be honest with you. 513 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 2: Ask them why they never want to go to the 514 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 2: bombs anyway? 515 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: What do you mean why was that person at TSA 516 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: giving you that dirty look? Right? What don't mean you 517 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: can't go to Canada for everybody up there? 518 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 2: Okay, this is called finders keepers. This one's gross. Hello, 519 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: murder matriarchs and co thanks, blah blah, you know the rest. 520 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 2: I have a brother who is three years younger than me, 521 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 2: but by the time we were two and five, he 522 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 2: easily weighed as much as me and could hold his 523 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: own in any fight. When he was seven or so, 524 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: we thought he was partially deaf. My dad thought it 525 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: was selective hearing, but eventually my mom took him to 526 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 2: the doctor to get it checked out. The doctor comes 527 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: into the room and starts testing things and uses that 528 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 2: weird flashlight to look inside my little brother's ears. 529 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: I wanted one of those really bad the lights. The 530 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: little the thing that where they're like, how are you today? 531 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: This would hide it from me if I had chase. 532 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 3: It's in there, okay. 533 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: When he looks in my brother's right ear, he pauses, 534 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 2: keeps the flashlight in the ear, and grabs a pair 535 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 2: of long, thin tweezers. This is what hometowns have become, 536 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 2: and I'm so happy for it. It's that, and it's this, 537 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: and that's okay. 538 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: Secret parent, drug runners and shoven shit up your nose 539 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: or ear, sorry wherever. 540 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: Then he proceeds to slowly extract a wax covered bead 541 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: from my brother's ear, A bead. No diamond today? 542 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 3: He pulled down and said, no diamond. 543 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 2: Oh, the diamond was in the ring, but it wasn't. 544 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: My mom's jaw drops to the floor, and when my 545 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 2: brother sees it, he says, oh, I put that in 546 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 2: there to hide from Georgia, and it says me, because 547 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 2: I didn't want her to use it. 548 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 3: This person's name is Georgia. Yeah, Oh that's crazy. 549 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 2: I know. It had been in there for four fucking years. 550 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 3: And how old was this little brother? 551 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: Uh? 552 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 2: Seven? Nope, not deaf, just hiding shit from his siblings 553 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: using three year old logic, and also who what's a 554 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 2: three year old? I'll play with beads another bygone time 555 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 2: I would or not allowed to. 556 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: They truly liked a man looking for the diamond. That 557 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: little kid found that thing on the floor, thought it 558 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: was beautiful and was like mine, stay. 559 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 2: Sexy and check your children's orifices with some regularity, Georgia. 560 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: Such a trip to hear an email from Georgia, thank 561 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,239 Speaker 1: you for finally writing in. That's so hilarious and it 562 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: The reason I said shove it up your nose is 563 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: because there's an infamous family story where my mom looked 564 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: at me one day and I had green shit running 565 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: out of one nostril. I've told you this one, I think, 566 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: so I don't remember, and I had to go to 567 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: the emergency room and they just they pulled out a 568 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: big piece of foam. 569 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: Why do you put phone in there? 570 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 3: It's bored. They used to leave me alone all the time. 571 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 3: What am I supposed to do? Not shove shit up 572 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 3: my nose? 573 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: But it was like that. 574 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 3: She was like, I think she's really sick. 575 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: It's like green snock coming in whatever action she goes, 576 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: he puts tweezers up there and then it's just like 577 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 1: is this your child? 578 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: Send your email to my favorite murder at Gmail about 579 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: orifice origin stories. 580 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: Okay, above the belt or orifice origin stories. 581 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 3: Thank please, thank you. Family Friendly. 582 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: You know that one guy who they like, he was 583 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 2: dying and they opened up his body and they found 584 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 2: a little tree growing in his lung because he had 585 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 2: inhaled a seed. That's just one of those stories I 586 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: think about when I can't sleep at night. 587 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're like, what do I got in there? Okay, 588 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: boogin villa, I forgot about that. It was like a 589 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: sprout in his lung. 590 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, so crazy. 591 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: He was like couldn't breathe and was like dying and 592 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 2: then like drinking farah flu and like you know, like not, 593 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: actually it's a Christmas tree. 594 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 3: And you're a tree. You've become a tree tree. 595 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: Okay. 596 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: Subject line of this email quick one. I ran over 597 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: myself with my own car less than two minute reads 598 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: beautiful besties that I've never met. When I was sixteen, 599 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: I eagerly got my license like any other teenage girl. 600 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: The car I was handed down was a nineteen eighty 601 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: six Super U gl The car was only a year 602 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: younger than me, so you can guess the safety features 603 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: were non existent. I've only had my license for about 604 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: two weeks when I pulled into my driveway after a 605 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: party one night. My parents' house is up a semi 606 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: steep hill and off the. 607 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 3: Road a little bit. 608 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: I got out of the car and was standing between 609 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: my car door and the driver's side when the car 610 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: starts rolling backwards. For some reason, I thought that I 611 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: could stop the car by simply pushing against the doorframe, 612 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: but before I knew it, the door knocked me down 613 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: and one of the tires ran over. 614 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 3: My right leg. 615 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: Jesus, uh, I mean you could have died. 616 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: Don't drink and drive, It's what I was trying to 617 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: tell you. The car rolled into the yard and into 618 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: a tree. My border Collie mixed Cindy just simply looking 619 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: at me until the car crashed, then decided to bark 620 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: and alert my parents. 621 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 3: Cindy's a narc. What the hell happened? 622 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: You? 623 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 3: Ask? 624 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: I forgot to put the car into park, which I 625 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: still do to this day, but thank goodness for modern 626 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: safety features. When I showed up to school limping with 627 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: the gigantic bruise on my leg, I lied and told 628 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: my friends that something had been wrong. With the car 629 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: and that park had been stripped out of the gearshift. 630 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: So if any of my high school friends are murdery 631 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: knows and remember this happening, I lied to you out 632 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: of embarrassment. Sorry, I guess No, stay sexy and don't 633 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: forget to put your car in park, Megan. 634 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 2: I want to hear the best stories of people who 635 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 2: did a really dumb thing and then blamed it on 636 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: something totally like that had nothing to do. 637 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 3: With it, just covered and lie because it was so embarrassing. 638 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then maybe got caught. 639 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: We have family friends who the daughter went to take 640 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: her driving test and passed, and everyone thought she wasn't 641 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: going to get She was crazy smart, like became a surgeon, 642 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: I think, but was very like yeah, not there in 643 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: everything else in. 644 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 3: The other ways. 645 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: So she passed, pulled up in front of her house 646 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: and was so excited she jumped out of the car 647 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: to run in to tell her dad, and the car 648 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: kept going because it was not only not in park, it. 649 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 3: Was just she just got out. 650 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 2: Thank you? Is that is that's it? 651 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 3: I think that's it. 652 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening everyone, If you want to hear more, 653 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: we have one more bonus story on our fan cult. 654 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: If you feel like. 655 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 3: It, that's right. 656 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: You can join our fancults at my Favorite Murder dot 657 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: com dot com and then you can have all the 658 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: secret content that we won't just give it any old person. 659 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 3: This swings by who do you think you are? 660 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: Kick God? Damn Uh? 661 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 3: Stay sexy and don't get murdered. 662 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 2: Goodbye, Elvis. 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