1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello everyone, 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: and welcome to tech Stuff. My name is Chris Poulette 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: and I am an editor at how stuff works dot Com. 6 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: Sitting across from me since that's the way we have 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: this studio set up, and really we can't do it 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: any other way. It's senior writer Jonathan Strickland in the Jungle, 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: the Mighty Jungle. Well you know, uh, you know, he 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: doesn't tell me what quotes he picks before we do this, 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: which is why I always chuckle because I'm going, oh 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: see he picked that one. Yeah, um, but yes, wey. 13 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: So today we are we are tackling something that many 14 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: people have asked us about, and boy is that dangerous. 15 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: You don't want to enjoy general tackle a lion sucker, 16 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: l take your head clean off. Uh yeah. And if 17 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: you're wondering why, because people have been asking about this 18 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: for a couple of months now and we didn't get 19 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: right to it. It's it's one of those things where 20 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: we went, hey, this week, we should do mac Os 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: ten lion no let's wait until next week. And then 22 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: we we found out that, uh, you know something about 23 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: Windows eight. They they announced it at the Microsoft Developer Conference, 24 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: and we said, you know what, now would be a 25 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: good time for us to do one on Microsoft's new OS, 26 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: and we'll do Lion as well, so that we want 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: to talk about Lion. Yeah, so we've you know, I'm 28 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: not exactly sure when we're scheduling these. We haven't. We 29 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: haven't sat down and scheduled them. But we have a 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: Windows eight episode and we have a mac Os ten 31 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: Lion episode, and we're recording both of them on the 32 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: same day. Now. We've just finished recording Windows eight, but 33 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: it may or may not have published yet. So we're 34 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: going to just say that if this one's publishing first, 35 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: don't worry Microsoft fans, Windows eight is coming. And if 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: Windows eight came out first, boy, those Land fans didn't 37 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: get upset because I didn't warn them at the beginning 38 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: of that episode. Don't worry Apple fans. You're oh, we're 39 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: recording it. Yeah, So let's talk about Lyon now. First 40 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: of all, it is part of the mac OS ten 41 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: family of operating systems, all of which have names that 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: are big cat names. Yes. Now, um, I want to 43 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 1: point out too that unlike Windows eight, which is coming 44 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: out sometime in twelve, mac Os Lion is available today 45 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: as at the time we're recording this, And but there 46 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: is one big similarity which is, unlike in past operating systems, 47 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: the two of these are taking cues from the mobile world. 48 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 1: Many of of Lyon's early reviews came back and said, hey, 49 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: this looks an awful lot like the Io S, which 50 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: is the operating system that's used on the i iPod Touch, 51 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: the iPhone, and the iPad UM. And we've suspected for 52 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 1: a while that the mac os and the iOS were 53 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: converging on a similar point and that maybe we'll get 54 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: to a point where they are practically indistinguishable from each other. Now, granted, uh, 55 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: you're always going to be able to run more complex 56 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: and uh resource intensive UM applications on a desktop or 57 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: laptop because it has more hardware resources to dedicate to 58 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But the actual experience of navigating 59 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 1: the operating system should be pretty much, um well, very 60 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: similar to the point where if you're familiar with one, 61 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: the other feels natural to you. Yes, I think that 62 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: these companies are trying to immerse you in their operating 63 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: systems to the point where the whole environment. You have 64 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: your tablet, you have your phone, and you have your 65 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: computer of some kind, and they all look and operate 66 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: very similarly. So I say, you know, I need a 67 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: new phone, but I want to get the Q phone. 68 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to get the Q phone. Mean, everybody's 69 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: got that, but I'm not familiar with that operating system. 70 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna stick with this. Yeah, And also 71 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: we should point out that we are recording this podcast 72 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: before the official launch of iOS five. That's true, and 73 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: iOS five is probably we we've already seen some hints 74 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: of iOS five and what's gonna involve in what's going 75 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: to uh the feature kind of features that's gonna have, 76 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: but we haven't had a full rundown of all those features. 77 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: And it may very well be that once iOS five 78 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: has gone live, that the resemblance between iOS five and 79 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: Lion is even closer than what we're talking about right now. Now. 80 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: I've been using mac os ten since UH, since it's 81 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: very first version. And like Jonathan said, UM, these have 82 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: all been named for big cats, UM and UH of 83 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: varying sizes. They don't go in any kind of order 84 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: that can tally the cats get larger because tiger was 85 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: a few versions ago, and tigers are bigger than lions. Well, 86 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: so you might be saying, what are these versions they 87 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: and and this is the other funny part. We have 88 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: another number discrepancy, but this one at least is easier 89 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: to explain than the Windows versioning system. Um. There are 90 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: seven previous versions to mac OS ten point seven. They 91 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: are Cheetah, Puma, jaguar, panther, tiger, leopard, and snow leopard. UM. 92 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: The reason that there are seven previous versions of macOS 93 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: ten and that this one is ten point seven is 94 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: that Cheetah was actually ten point zero. UM. And I 95 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: can tell you that cheetahs really don't prosper. It was 96 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: it was clearly clunky Cheetah in the system, but that 97 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: was right after they acquired the technology from next would 98 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: you say that cheetah was a little spotty. So the 99 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: thing that the thing is that macOS ten point six 100 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: snow Leopard UH was considered more of a a bug 101 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 1: fix and incremental improvements. And a lot of the stuff 102 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: was behind the scenes, stuff like grand central um, which 103 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: is not something you see and you know who look 104 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: at that thing. It was designed to improve the way 105 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: the operating system handled information, and it was kind of 106 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: supposed to be transparent, like it's it's better, and there's 107 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: not like a flashy new feature exactly. The idea was 108 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: that this is supposed to improve the consumer experience without 109 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: being intrusive. That is not the case with Lion intrudes 110 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: way the heck Lion prowls yes on you. And I 111 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: think I think, uh, you're seeing with both Windows eight 112 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: and mac ows ten Lion that the major operating system 113 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: manufacturers are unafraid to make major changes to the operating system. 114 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: And you know, we talked about this in the Windows 115 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: eight podcast, which you may or may not have already heard. 116 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: I think we should go ahead and schedule at first. 117 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: Why don't we do that? So but but we've talked 118 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: about it before. But it's clear that uperating system developers 119 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: are really looking at how people are using the mobile 120 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: version of operating systems and how quickly people adapt to that, 121 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: and then they're they're saying, well, what what can we 122 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: take from that design element and apply to a desktop 123 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: or laptop model so that our operating system is just 124 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: as intuitive and easy to use as the mobile version 125 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: of that operating system. Yeah. Yeah, well there are there 126 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: are tons and tons of new features. Yeah, and a 127 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: lot of them are are less than exciting. Um. You 128 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: you did touch on this in the macOS ten article 129 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: you recently wrote about floor how stuff works dot com 130 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: um and and I mean there were things like voiceover, 131 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: which supports twenty two different languages. Um. And makes it 132 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: more accessible for people because you can actually have the 133 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: computer read to you. I have an impairment or visual impairment, 134 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: than this can be a way for you to work 135 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: with this computer without, you know, making making it easier 136 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: for you to access the applications and information on your device. 137 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: This is the kind of thing that that I think 138 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people find less than exciting. But I 139 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: think you know, it's a it's a nice feature, um 140 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: And I just wanted to mention it simply because it 141 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: does make computers more accessible for more people. Can I 142 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: tell you one of the features that I actually think 143 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: is I'm pretty excited about this is going to show 144 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: you how lame I am. No, No, seriously, I really will. 145 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: Launchpad launch Pad Launchpad is the quick of app that 146 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: will open up a box that shows you all the 147 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: the executable applications that are on your Mac. So, in 148 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: other words, it shows all the apps that you can 149 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: run in one view. And the reason why I think 150 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: this is cool is because I'm a Lamo. I I 151 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: am used to using the Windows operating system. When I 152 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: say Lamo, I really mean I'm a Macnube. I own 153 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: a Mac, but I don't use my Mac that frequently, 154 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: so I still don't know all the shortcuts because I 155 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: just don't use it that that much. I mean, I 156 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: know that I could know them all if I actually 157 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: put forth the effort. I just haven't done that, but 158 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: I don't know all the shortcuts on accessing all the apps. 159 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: And if it's not in my dock at the bottom 160 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: of the screen, then I'm like, wait, where's my Where's 161 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: the program I want to run? Because I don't see 162 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: the icon down here, And then I have to open 163 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: up Finder and I have to find the thing. And 164 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: I know all you Mac users out there are saying, oh, 165 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: calm on. A lot of the macusers out there are 166 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: probably using something like Alfred or or um Quicksilver, you know, 167 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: or or launch Bar or something like that too. You know, 168 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: there's a key command and then you can type in 169 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: the name of the thing and it just opens. Yes, 170 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: there are things like that for Windows to right right, 171 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: It's just that I'm familiar with navigating through Windows, so 172 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: I don't have any There's no delay for me there 173 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: because I've just I've used it so so much. Yeah, exactly. 174 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: Once you know the once you know the way, and 175 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: you've got used it a couple of times, you're good 176 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: And I just haven't taken that that that time. Well, 177 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: launch pad it opens up a window that shows you 178 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: all the applications you can run. So, in other words, 179 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about hunting for it in 180 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: the dock or if it's not there, where do you 181 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: find it? If it's not on your desktop, what do 182 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: you do? And um, And that I think is a 183 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: great feature for people who are new to the Mac 184 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: operating system or people who just like the simplicity of 185 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: doing it that way. Frankly, Yeah, except that I think 186 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: if you've been using a Mac for a while, you 187 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: probably have so many apps that opening up a window 188 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: that has all of them listed is not really a 189 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: great solution, which is why I use a launcher. Yeah, exactly. See, 190 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: so for So for someone who's used MAX quite a 191 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 1: bit and have experience with lots and lots of applications, 192 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: and they have lots of applications, it's not an ideal, 193 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: uh feature. But for someone who's brand new to the 194 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: operating system who doesn't know their way around yet, it 195 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: is something that makes it much more user friendly. Um 196 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: especially I mean if you're like me, and you know, 197 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: it's kind of like the old dog new tricks thing, right, 198 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: I've had it beat into me that this is there's 199 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: a very specific way that you go about to access 200 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: the programs that are on your computer, and it's really 201 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: hard for me to rewire that at this point. Well, 202 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: another another trick they've taken from the iOS book. And 203 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, there were a lot of people who were 204 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: saying that they kind of thought that iOS might be 205 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: moving to the Mac. Um it's not there yet. This 206 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: is definitely unlike again Windows eight. This is definitely a 207 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: there's a line in between the two still, but there 208 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: are a lot of similarities, including the ability in launchpad 209 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: to group applications in folders as you would in an 210 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: iOS device, and just your navigation Yeah, which actually, from 211 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: what I understand, has caused some people to go bonkers, Yeah, 212 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: because it's just your it's modeled after that mobile device 213 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: um experience. So for example, when uh, when you are 214 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: looking at a screen and there's more information on uh, 215 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: let's say it's a website. So you're looking at a 216 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: website and there's more information below the bottom of the 217 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: screen that you cannot see. The way you look at 218 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: that on us on a mobile device, as you put 219 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: your finger on the screen and you move your finger up, 220 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: and that pulls the page up so you can see 221 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: the stuff that's lower down, right, So in other words, 222 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: you flick up to see further down. Well, if you're 223 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: using a mouse with a scroll wheel, the traditional way 224 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: to scroll through a a web page that has more 225 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: information further down is you dial that wheel towards you 226 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: downwards and your fingers making a downward motion. Right, So 227 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: uh yeah, so you're pulling the wheel towards you to 228 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: scroll down. That ain't the way Lion does it. Lion 229 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: apes the the model of the mobile device. So now 230 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: in order to scroll down, you you push the wheel 231 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: up away from you, not toward you. So it's opposite 232 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: what it used to be, which when I first was 233 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: reading the reviews, and that, and even Apple says, hey, 234 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna take you a little while too 235 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: to learn this, and if you really hate it, you 236 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: can change the settings. So it's not like Apple makes 237 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: you do this, it's just it's said as the default. 238 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: I read so many people like, how do I change 239 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: my settings? I can't scroll anywhere, I have to hold 240 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: my mouths upside down, and I gotta be underwater and 241 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: it only works with bacon's on the stove. I don't 242 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: know what's happening. There might have been a bit of hyperbole, 243 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: but yeah, it was one of the That was one 244 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: of the first things I saw was that it wasn't 245 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: talking about how slick the interface it was. It was 246 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how to scroll anymore. Yeah. That the 247 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: gesture navigation, Um, it's gonna be easier for people who 248 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: are using laptops with a touchpad. Um. Of course Apple 249 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: also max with a touch pad now also, um, yeah, 250 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: because they sell a magic what they call the Magic 251 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: touchpad track pad. Sorry, yeah, and they also have the 252 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: Magic mouse. What you can you can also scroll using 253 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: your fingers, so um, and do other gestures as well. Yes, 254 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: I know some people who do gestures at them. But 255 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: U But yeah, I mean so you can you can 256 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: do that. Another feature that I think is cool again 257 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: sort of that falls in the same sort of buckets 258 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: Mission control, which is sort of a uh refined version 259 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: of expose a UM, which is a feature on a 260 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: couple of previous versions of the macOS where you can 261 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: hit the A button or use a you know key 262 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: command UM, and it will show you every open window 263 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: on on your Mac, all the all the active applications 264 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: that are running at that point. Yeah. Now mission control 265 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: shows you even more than that, including the dashboard which 266 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: is where widgets are found. Um, any open window, full 267 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: screen applications. Oh yeah that it also allows you uh 268 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: lie and also allows you use full screen apps, which 269 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: is nice. Yeah, so that that models after the iPad. Yeah. Yeah. 270 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: It's kind of like a visual version of the task 271 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: Manager for Windows. So for people who are who are 272 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: used to Windows, who are thinking what does this mean? 273 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: All right, so when you pull up your task manager 274 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: and Windows, you want to see all the applications that 275 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: are currently running. Maybe you want to do that so 276 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: you you know, you can make sure that you aren't 277 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: running any unnecessary applications. So that way your your computer 278 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: is not running slowly that kind of stuff, same sort 279 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: of thing, except this is a much more visual way 280 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: of representing that. It actually literally opens up all the 281 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: little windows so that you can get a bird's eye 282 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: view of all the stuff that's happening on your Mac 283 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: at that moment. Um. Expose A still exists, but expose 284 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: A now handles multiple multiple windows in the same application UM, 285 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: and you can you can control spaces, which is, you know, 286 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: basically alternate desktops UM, which I use sometimes, Like for example, 287 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: I'll have you know, music playing in one window and 288 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: I really don't want uh, you know, I have a 289 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: a browser window open where I'm working with all on 290 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: all the tabs in that browser window are how stuff 291 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: works dot com related where I'm looking up uh facts 292 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: for the podcast or looking something up for or testing 293 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: a page before it goes live. And I don't want 294 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: my music player in the same window. I move it 295 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: to another space so that I could, you know, keep 296 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: my work stuff there and it helps me focus on work. UM. 297 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: That's all part of mission control now, which I think 298 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: is nice and I actually like the idea of grouping applications. 299 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: I thought that was cool about Windows seven because one 300 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: of my big complaints about earlier versions of Windows was 301 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: you'd have you know, say, three browser windows open, and 302 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: after a while with all the other stuff that you 303 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: have open, they they they're so sliver thin that you 304 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: can't tell which window is which without you know, tabbing 305 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: through them. Um. And I like that the Windows seven 306 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: has that, And I think that this is also a 307 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: nice feature in mac os Lion. There are a couple 308 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: of little different but there are a couple of features 309 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: in Lion that I think are like killer features, features 310 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: that make me want Lion and make me want to 311 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: buy a new Mac. And this is confim Yeah, this 312 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: is coming from someone who doesn't use the many Mac applications, 313 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: but I just I love the fact that it's built 314 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: into the operating system. Um. The first being the auto 315 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: save feature, yeah, which is this is not can't stress 316 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: how important that is that. This is another feature that 317 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people consider unglamorous. Uh. And 318 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: you have apps that do auto save, yeah, I mean 319 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: for all operating systems, but this brings it across the 320 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: entire operating system. So basically, anybody who's using that part 321 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: of the API for the Maco and you know, it's 322 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: got it plugged into the operating system, it's going to 323 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: auto save for you. And it's a it's kind of 324 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: similar to UH time machine if you've ever used that. 325 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: It's and there are actually three components to auto save. 326 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: There's the auto save component, where it's saving the state 327 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: of the computer automatically, so that way, should you should 328 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: you shut down prematurely or whatever, the pet loss of 329 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: power or whatever, you're able to get back to a 330 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: state that's very close to what you were at before 331 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: the power went down. UM. There is UH the resume feature, 332 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: which is part of auto safe. Resume is where it 333 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: picks up right where you left off. So let's say 334 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: that you're in a document and you're editing a document. 335 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: Chris does this occasionally. So you're editing a document and 336 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: you have to shut down because it's time for you 337 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: to go somewhere else, and you're you're in the middle 338 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: of editing, so you you save your progress and you 339 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: shut down and you go, Well, resume lets you when 340 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: you launch that application again, it's going to open up 341 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: exactly where you left off, including the cursor position, which 342 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: so if you're working on page sixteen, you're the cursor 343 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: is exactly like, yeah, if you were you, if you 344 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: leave your cursor right where you left off, so that 345 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: way you're you say, Okay, from this point forward, I 346 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: need to continue editing. But I've done everything previous to 347 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: this point. Now that sounds that might sound really mundane 348 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: to you, but this is a huge help for people 349 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: who do a lot of content creation and editing. Speaking 350 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: as someone who does a lot of writing, this is 351 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: incredibly important because sometimes once in a while, I'll write 352 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: an article and I'll be on page three of my 353 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: article and I realized, hey, there's this cool thing I 354 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: should have written in page two, and uh, or maybe 355 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: there's something that should be page three, and this is 356 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: what I'm working on right now should really be page four. 357 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 1: And I'll go back and I'll insert a new page 358 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: and I'll start typing stuff, and then I have to quit, 359 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: and I have to go do something else, and I 360 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: have to come back. Well, having it pick up exactly 361 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: where I left off means that I spend less time 362 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 1: going through this document that I've been working in and 363 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: figuring out where I need to pick up from. And uh, 364 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, if if I worked in a very chronological 365 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: timeline specific way, it wouldn't be necessary because I would 366 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: just go to the first blank spot in the document 367 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: and that's where I would need to start. That's not 368 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: how I work. So that featured to me is really important. 369 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: And a third one is the version's feature. Now versions, 370 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: what that lets you do is look the various iterations 371 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: of whatever the file is or whatever the app is, 372 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: so that you can see what what its status was 373 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: each time it was saved. Okay, So here's the scenario. 374 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: Hit me with it. I uh, I was working on 375 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: a project my senior year in college on my Amiga. 376 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: Um I had written they had Amiga's back when you 377 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: were in college? Yes? Were? They made out of wood? Okay? 378 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,959 Speaker 1: So I was working on this on this one paper 379 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: for my class. It was due. I can't remember exactly 380 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: what time, but it was you know, afternoons, like two 381 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: pm or something like that, and I don't know. I 382 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: got really good at the keyboard command for saving, so 383 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: you know, like you know, Amiga s to save it 384 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: because they had you know, keys like the Apple command key, 385 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: so you know, or the Windows key, so you know, 386 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: I save that the document you know on type type 387 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: type type, and I'd save it because I've learned the 388 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: lesson that we all learned many times, where we don't 389 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,239 Speaker 1: save something and you come back and you go, oh, 390 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: what happened to it? Somehow? He by the way, he 391 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: does sound like that when it happens. Yeah, I was 392 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: I was ready to do this. I was going, Okay, 393 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna save this and print it. I hit, 394 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: I hit something, I hit select all, deleted it, saved 395 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: it and closed it. Somehow I just fat fingered it. Wow. 396 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: So and so, like the worst possible the entire paper 397 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: minutes before it was due. If I had had a 398 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: feature like this, I could have gone to the previous 399 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: version of the paper and at least had I don't know, 400 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: nine and three quarters of ten pages left to you know, 401 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: finish my conclusion or whatever it was that I was doing. 402 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: I procrastinate, you know, because of this. It's why Chris 403 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: does not own Facebook, exactly that splitting path. If he 404 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: had just saved it, yes, he would be a multi billionaire. 405 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: And instead he's sitting at this little table with me. 406 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: Please shoot me now trump bowe um. So. Yes, that 407 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: is a very incredibly useful feature to be able to 408 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: go back or if you've written something you know that stinks, 409 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: and then the next day you you know what, maybe 410 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: that did what what did I write that? Maybe that 411 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: didn't stink? Well, now you can go find out. Yeah, 412 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: and and the other you know, because I said there 413 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: were two big things that I thought were really important. Yeah, 414 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: what's the other one? The other one is air drop. Ah, yeah, 415 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: that's a nice feature. Air Drop is again because are 416 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: setting up a home network is not necessarily difficult, but 417 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: there is a level of familiarity you have to reach 418 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: in order to get to this point where you can 419 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: set up a home network where it's easy for you 420 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: to share files across devices. Right, not everyone knows how 421 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: to do that. They might know, oh, well I use 422 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: this router and that allows me to access the Internet, 423 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: but they don't know how to send files from computer 424 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: A to computer B without emailing it or something, right, 425 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: sneak net right, put it on a flash drive exactly. Yeah, 426 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: it's just it's because there's still that barrier there. And 427 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm just saying that the 428 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: average user doesn't know how to do that. Air Drop 429 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: is getting around that. Air Drop is a way that 430 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: you can share files. You can transfer files across from 431 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: one Mac to another as long as they're both in 432 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: WiFi range, and it doesn't matter what network the two 433 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: machines are on, which is phenomenal to me. You've got 434 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: like your own little local area network that just exists 435 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: for as long as they're in WiFi range of each other. 436 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: So if you have multiple uh mac os ten lion 437 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: devices running or computers running we should just say computers 438 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: because it's not really devices computers running, then you can 439 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,959 Speaker 1: air drop a file from one to the other and share, 440 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: you know, just it'll go through as fast as the 441 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: the WiFi speeds allow, which is pretty phenomenal. I mean, 442 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: it makes it makes that networking and sharing so much easier, 443 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: and you don't have to fiddle with things like email 444 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: or putting it on a flash drive and walking it 445 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: on over. Yeah, and it's it's a little easier to configure. 446 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: And in addition to that, you might be saying, well, 447 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: you know that sounds kind of dangerous to me, what 448 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: if somebody else is lurking around outside uh the The 449 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: connection between the two during air drop is encrypted, so 450 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: it should be theoretically impossible for somebody to capture the 451 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: transfer and and get at you in that way, and 452 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: if not impossible, very very improbable. Well you know that 453 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: I hate to speak indefinites, because there's just gonna be 454 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: an exception to the rule until we get to quantum 455 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: of encryption. I don't know. Except for that rule, there's 456 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: never gonna be an exception to the exception to the 457 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: rule rule. I mean, you know, nothing moves faster than 458 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: the speed of light unless it does. Is the top 459 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: still spinning? So what about file vault fault similar? It's 460 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: an encryption technique. Now, people complained about file vault which 461 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: didn't have a one, but file vault one they're calling 462 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: it you now, uh, because there were there were let's say, 463 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: problems with it. Um, not that it was bad. People 464 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: use it and it works, but um, there have been 465 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: problems getting at some of the things in there. And 466 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: and so file Vault two is an improved version of 467 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: the whole disc encryption scheme that was in previous versions 468 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: of the operating So now this is important if you 469 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: are using a Mac to work on sensitive material. Let's 470 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: say it's for work and you work at a company 471 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: where you've got uh, sensitive corporate files on your Mac. Well, 472 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: something like file valled is important just in case should 473 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: that that computer ever leave your side for any reason, 474 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: someone else doesn't have access to that information. That's the 475 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: it's just it's the point of encryption, and the and 476 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: Lion has built it in directly into the operating system 477 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: so that it's and at least in the very easier 478 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: for you to to activate, so you're not going to 479 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: be um, you know, having to hunt for a third 480 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: party solution to encrypt your information. It also supports external 481 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: drive encryption and it is bit encryption, so it is 482 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: pretty thorough and it won't work on the entire drive. 483 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: It also offers you an instant wipe feature, so if 484 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: something you lose the laptop, you can or well, I 485 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: don't know if you can do it remotely, so I 486 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: take that back, but you can. You can wipe it. 487 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: You can wipe the entire drive. Uh Let's say you 488 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: you know you're done with this computer, but you want 489 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: to give it to someone else. You could you could 490 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: have it go ahead and wipe the entire drive and 491 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: give it to him knowing that it's done. Let's coming back. 492 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: You're sitting at your desk and the Feds are coming 493 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: and you're thinking Oh no, lull Sec is going to 494 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: be so mad at me. You know, legal is going 495 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: to be all over your case. I'm just saying, lull Sec. 496 00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: You know all the FEDS are after you. We know this, man. 497 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: Oh man, that's common knowledge, that's in the news. So 498 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: then there's also a Lion also has the Lion Recovery feature. 499 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: So if you if you're with one of your disks 500 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: is damaged and when I say a damage disc, I 501 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: don't necessarily mean physically damaged. Uh, then you can have 502 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: a a full reinstall of OSX Lion without having to 503 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: require you use a physical disk. So um. It also 504 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: helps you restore from things like a time machine backup 505 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Uh. Oh, there's the uh you 506 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: know what we didn't mention. What didn't we mention? The 507 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: Mac OS ten Lion, to my knowledge and correct me 508 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,479 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, is the first of the Mac operating 509 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: systems which you could just download directly from the Mac 510 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: app Store. Yeah. I was going to bring that up 511 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: if we were done talking about specific features, because some 512 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: of the features aren't features. This is this is brand 513 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: new for for Mac. And another thing that they did 514 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: which was sort of unusual because both Windows and Apple 515 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: have our Windows and Macintosh operating systems recently have come 516 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: with sort of higher prices depending on which version of 517 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: Windows you're buying. I mean, you can buy a cheaper version. 518 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: The mac Os. Until snow Leopard had been retailing for 519 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: about a hundred and twenty nine dollars for the next 520 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: version of the operating system, and then with snow Leopard 521 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: they offered it for twenty nine dollars, saying hey, well, 522 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: you know, it's an incremental upgrade. It's it's kind of 523 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: small lions stayed at that price point and it's now 524 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: digital download, which is going to cause people to go, ah, 525 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: so if you don't have to print manuals and uh 526 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: press discs and arrange for distribution, you can charge less 527 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: for things. Yeah. Yeah. It puts the pressure on other 528 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: operating system developers, yes, yes, um, specifically ones that ryan 529 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: with sch Microsoft. Yes, well, you know the Linux operating 530 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: system manufacturers. Most of those are for free distributions. Usually 531 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: with the distributions distributions usually usually the distribution is free 532 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: and support is what you end up paying for. Yeah. Yeah, so, uh, 533 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, this is kind of a new thing now 534 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: they do offer again, not everyone has access to high 535 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: speed internet, so they offer a thumb drive version which 536 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: came out after the initial release of Line. I believe 537 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: it's sixty dollars to get a thumb drive with Line 538 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: installed on that. But um, they Apple has been pushing 539 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: the move from physical format software a disc with the 540 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,239 Speaker 1: software on two digital downloads, so of course they were 541 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: doing that with a Mac app store. Um. But but 542 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: this is they're they're actually I mean to download your 543 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: operating system. That's kind of a new thing. Um. One 544 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: thing that Lion doesn't have that may completely prevent me 545 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: from switching my current Mac over is Rosetta. Rosetta was 546 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: um of course, several years ago Mac uh computers moved 547 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: from the I be empower PC architecture to Intel's X 548 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: eight six architecture. Rosetta was a technology built in the 549 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: operating system prior to Lions, so it's no Leopard. And 550 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: before that allowed you to run PPC apps on the 551 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 1: Intel architecture, you had the Universal Translator. Yeah, it's not 552 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: included and you can't get it for Lions. So if 553 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: you if you are transferring when you when you install 554 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: Mac OS ten Lion to a machine previous, you know 555 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: you already own a Mac, and now you're upgrading your 556 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: operating system. It will port over all your applications from 557 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: your old Mac into this new operating system unless they 558 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 1: rely on this translation. Yes, because it doesn't. It's not 559 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: supported within Mac os ten lions, So you those applications 560 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: will remain untouched. And a loon in the desert crying softly. Yes, 561 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: so these legacy apps, that's going to be a problem. Yes. 562 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: Now I suppose I could partition my hard drive and 563 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: run lying on a separate partition. Um, but right now 564 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm kind of running low on hard drive space. Are 565 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: you still using those legacy apps regularly? Well? One, the 566 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: one that I've seen most frequently mentioned is into It's 567 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: Quicken seven. Um Quicken. There's a newer version of Quicken 568 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: that will run online, but it is the the essentials version, 569 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: so it's not as feature rich feature rich as previous versions, 570 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: like the full version of Quicken. Now, um, that's not 571 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: Apple's fault. But people who use Quicken a lot, like 572 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: my my spouse who keeps track of all our finances 573 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: on Quicken, uh, probably would prefer to continue. Now you know, 574 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: we don't. We haven't tried the other version so I 575 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: don't know. But there are other things too. Um, some 576 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: of the games I play are for earlier versions of 577 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: the Mac operating system, and I would like to continue 578 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: to be able to play those games. So I might 579 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: leave this particular Mac on snow Leopard and the next 580 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: wait for the next computer purchase to like marath On. 581 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: No I do I have a copy of Marathon No 582 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: shock here? Yeah, well, you know, stuff like a Rise 583 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: of Nations in Age of Vampires is wondering. I'm like, gosh, 584 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: playing those old games. Yeah, I'm not actually usually allowed 585 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: to pop open an r C Cola and need a 586 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: moonpie while I'm doing it. Worcraft three three, Oh my gosh. Okay, 587 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: so that old well okay, no, it's it's pretty hold yeah. Um, 588 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: Burning Monkey Solitaire and well there you go. So there 589 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: you go. If you've got Burning Monkeys in it, I'm 590 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: on board, see, And that's why I'm sad that free 591 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: Verse discontinued all their Burning Monkey apps. So one other 592 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: thing that's kind of interesting now, if you have if 593 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 1: you download Lion from the app store, you can install 594 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: it on all the computers that you own and control, 595 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: so you don't have to buy a family license. If 596 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: you own and control ten max in your house, that 597 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: can run lyon Apple is okay with you installing Lion 598 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: on all those machines, which is pretty upgrade price. That's 599 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: pretty phenomenal, and I'd like to see other operating system 600 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: manufacturers do that too. I think that. I mean, it's 601 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: an operating system. And there's some stuff we haven't talked about. 602 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: I mean, macOS tens of stuff. Supports FaceTime yep, so 603 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: you're able to do the video calls with people who 604 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: have an iPhone four or an iPad two. Yeah, of 605 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: course you can. You can do that with it earlier. 606 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: You can download FaceTime on earlier version, but it comes 607 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: funded in. This one's incorporated directly into the operating system. 608 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: They've improved mail. There's a new wide screen view on mail. Never. 609 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: I never used Apple Mail, um never. One of the 610 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: things I like about Apple Mail is that it allows 611 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: you to use all different kinds of accounts, including Microsoft 612 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: Exchange accounts um. So, if you have your personal account 613 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: on say Yahoo or Gmail or a o L, you 614 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: can use that and check your work mail with Exchange 615 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: and well, uh, you know, update your eye cow I 616 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: cow is also updated on account either yeah. Well, well, 617 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: and here's the other thing is that the we should 618 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: also point out this is as we record this podcast 619 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: OS ten, Lion is still pretty young. Yes, it is right. 620 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: It has moved to dot one though it's a cub 621 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: so there are some third party like sound workstations that 622 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: are not yet supported by Lions. So depending on what 623 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: you use your Mac for, there may be things that 624 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: you can't do just yet because it's just not yet 625 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: supported by Lion. And that's true of any operating system 626 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: when it goes through a change like this. It also 627 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: has one one well known bug, yes, Safari, mm hmm, yeah, yeah, 628 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: I just hate that browser. Well, I know you do, 629 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: but you don't have to use it. No. In fact, 630 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 1: the Mac version of Chrome is quite nice, and I 631 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: know you like Chrome. Yeah, it's the Mac version of 632 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: Chrome is is uh is acceptable? But yeah, Safari, I 633 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: just can't stand I still can't stand it, you know, 634 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: I mean what else can I say? Okay, well, did 635 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: aug I know I would. It's going. I don't know 636 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: if a bug ins apart, No, no, it is the bug. Yeah. Um, 637 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: if you're interested and if you're interested in making the 638 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: switch and you're concerned about which apps will and won't work. Um, 639 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: I suggest a site called roaring apps dot com like 640 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: roaring like a Lion does, and they have a table 641 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: that you can look at and see which apps are 642 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: and are not functional in Lion. And I suggest uh, 643 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: looking carefully at the comments because some people, uh, you know, 644 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: do what Jonathan just did. I hate this app and 645 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, but does it work? Yeah? Some people 646 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: like me troll, So yeah, there was totally a trolling, 647 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: fling baiting content comment I I fully admit. So make 648 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: make sure you check to see if if people are 649 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: actually reporting that it isn't working or they're just snarky 650 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 1: comments about you know, I don't. Of course, if you're 651 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: buying a new a new Mac, then it's gonna Lion 652 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: is gonna be what's the operating system that's on the computer, 653 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 1: so you're gonna see these features and um, if you're 654 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: buying a new Mac, well, then you know you're not 655 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: worried about poring over old apps. Probably, I mean you 656 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: might be. I guess you could be buying a new 657 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: machine importing all your stuff from an old machine to 658 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,479 Speaker 1: your new machine. But and it also will will port 659 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: some information over from Windows so at least that's my 660 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 1: understanding of it. Interesting. UM so yeah, if you haven't, 661 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: if you were ready to make the switch, if you 662 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: decided that you do like the mac os and you've 663 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: been using a Windows machine, it it can do some 664 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: of that for you. Yeah. It's um, I mean we're 665 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: seeing I think, as the mobile devices that Apple produces 666 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: continue to dominate in the market, UM, we're gonna see 667 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: this operating system kind of emulate that more and more 668 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: until it's pretty much a seamless experience from one device 669 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: to another. Uh. It's proven to be a popular moll 670 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: modele and um it might just make Apples mac share 671 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: go even higher. Um yeah, it's it's entirely possible. Um yeah, 672 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: according to I just wanted to check before I uh 673 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: found out for sure whether or not I needed to 674 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: completely rerecord this section now and you talked about Uh, 675 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: it will move Windows Home directory folders including music, pictures, documents, downloads, browser, 676 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: bookmarks and settings, um Outlook and Windows Live Meal. Um 677 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: so yeah, I really will migrate a lot of your 678 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: personal information from Windows. So that's um. It's interesting too. 679 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: That and the fact that they promote boot camp and 680 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 1: as an opportunity to install Windows on your mac. Um. 681 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: You know, thinking back to the days where there was 682 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 1: high pitched animosity between two companies and now Apples going, 683 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: you know what, and use ours and install theirs. It's 684 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: all right, we'll help you move over. If you want 685 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: to stay with it, it's okay. Well, if it means funny, 686 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 1: if it means that they move more machines, of course 687 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: they're going to do that, and they have been. The 688 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: recent sales figures I've seen suggest that Apple is selling 689 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: more machines. Of course, that still means that they have 690 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: a tiny market share, but but it's growing. Yeah. You know, 691 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: before it was so small that you know, most people 692 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,919 Speaker 1: just dismissed Apple outright. But over the past few years 693 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: they the company has proven you know, don't dismiss us, 694 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: that's a mistake, and that's kind of proving true. So 695 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: we'll see if Lyon continues that trend. Yep. And again, 696 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: we we've mentioned a lot of stuff that that we 697 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: like about lying and there are many many more features 698 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: that we didn't talk about. So please let us know 699 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: if you, uh, if you have a particular feature that 700 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: you thought was cool and that we didn't get to. 701 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: We'd like to hear about it. And if you're a 702 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: Safari fan, I'm sorry, you know, I hope, I hope 703 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: you find help soon. So if you guys want to 704 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: write us and let us know what, okay, I'll admit 705 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: to that I really do have that. I just can't 706 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 1: stand it. Um. But if you guys want to hear 707 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,919 Speaker 1: more about any particular topic, let us know. Email us. 708 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: Our address is text stuff at how stuff works dot com, 709 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: or you can drop us a line on Facebook or Twitter. 710 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 1: Drop us a lion lion on Facebook or Twitter round 711 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: That handle is text stuff H. S W and Chris 712 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: and I will roar at you again really soon. Be 713 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: sure to check out our new video podcast, Stuff from 714 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: the Future. Join how Stuff Work staff as we explore 715 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: the most promising and perplexing possibilities of tomorrow. The How 716 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: Stuff Works iPhone app has arrived. Download it today on iTunes, 717 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 718 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: It's ready, are you