WEBVTT - NFL Week 15 Game Lines Reactions (Ep. 34)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, everybody. Welcome back to the Betting Pros NFL podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>brought to you by bet MGM. I am your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Harris and you can find me on Twitter at

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Harris eighty. It is time for our early look

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<v Speaker 1>at next week's lines. With me to break it all down,

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<v Speaker 1>is our good friend Rich Ryan, host of the grid

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<v Speaker 1>Iron Gamble podcast. You can find Rich on Twitter at

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<v Speaker 1>Rich t Ryan. Rich. Thank you for joining us again.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm great. We unfortunately are coming off of a one

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<v Speaker 2>and four week in the Super Contest after they dangled

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<v Speaker 2>a carrot in front of us and let us go

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<v Speaker 2>five and zero in week thirteen. So just when you

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<v Speaker 2>think you're going to peak and there's light at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the tunnel, the betting gods punch you right

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<v Speaker 2>in the face.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to be worried, because I went

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<v Speaker 1>four and one in the Super Contest this week, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just riding high. I mean that's coming off of

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<v Speaker 1>three and two weeks, so we're probably roughly equal over there.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, man, I don't know. I felt like this

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<v Speaker 1>week's games they were okay. I felt like I had

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<v Speaker 1>a good feel for it. Other than I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why I ever continue to back the Jaguars. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't processed yet that they are completely dunzies, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just keep going like, well, you know the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trusting the Chargers. I mean, let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, I think the Jaguars are gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>fired up with Minshew and that didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Mania crash and we two had the Jags

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<v Speaker 2>as one of our four losers. So right there with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll talk about the line that's coming up for

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<v Speaker 1>Week fifteen and whatever it is, I will not be

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<v Speaker 1>taking the Jaguars. But in the end, Rich and I

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<v Speaker 1>are going to go through each game on the Week

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<v Speaker 1>As I said, Rich and I are going to go

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<v Speaker 1>through every game on the week fifteenth slate, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>when we record this on Monday night. All right, Rich,

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<v Speaker 1>let's dive right in here with the Thursday night game.

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<v Speaker 1>Our Jets taking on the Ravens in balld More raven

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<v Speaker 1>tiror Lang fourteen and a half with a total of

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<v Speaker 1>forty five. So look, this is gonna be ugly. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets eke out the win against the Dolphins, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're banged up all over the place. Does sound like

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<v Speaker 1>Leveon Bell is going to play the Ravens. Meanwhile, they

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<v Speaker 1>continue to roll with their big win over the Bills.

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<v Speaker 1>The defense is playing extremely well. Lamar Jackson is essentially unstoppable.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is going to be gross. But is it

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<v Speaker 1>going to be fourteen and a half points gross or what?

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of injuries here that we're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>stay tuned to, which makes it even worse for the

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<v Speaker 2>short week heading into Thursday night football. Baltimore has fewer,

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<v Speaker 2>but definitely two key injuries on offense. Ronnie Staley suffered

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<v Speaker 2>a concussion didn't practice today, and then at the tight

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<v Speaker 2>end position, Mark Andrews left with the knee injury on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>He did not practice today. That is Monday as well.

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<v Speaker 2>For the Jets, we know Jamal Adams and Leveon Bell

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<v Speaker 2>missed on Sunday, so there are two players you need

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<v Speaker 2>to keep your eye on and Ryan Griffin, Blao Powell,

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<v Speaker 2>and Quinn Williams all left that game. So a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of an injury ward on both sides of the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>And to me, the biggest of those injuries is Jamal Adams.

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<v Speaker 2>I was very intrigued about this matchup coming into this

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<v Speaker 2>for the last few weeks. I was waiting to see

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<v Speaker 2>Jamal versus Lamar stick thirty three in the box and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he can contain this electric quarterback and that read

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<v Speaker 2>option offense. Without Jamal, I don't know how the Jets

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<v Speaker 2>get stops in this game. Everyone piling on Baltimore seventy

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<v Speaker 2>percent of both the bets and the money, and if

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<v Speaker 2>thirty three is not on the field for the Jets,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of lean that way. As many points as

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<v Speaker 2>that is short week, Ravens banged up that for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple tough games, But I just how do the Jets

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<v Speaker 2>get stops against this offense if their defense isn't healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're not going to be able to. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know whether or not I can really take the Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>laying more than two touchdowns. I get it. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna argue with it. I couldn't take the Jets at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. It's a short week, so I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's really gonna move at this point. And as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>the vast majority of the money is going to come

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<v Speaker 1>in down the raven. Certainly the public is gonna like them.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I agree, And it's hard to see the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets doing all that much on offense. I mean, with

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<v Speaker 1>their offensive line being as terrible as it is. Darnold

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<v Speaker 1>needs time to throw to be able to get into

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a mode. With the injuries, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Andrews is gonna be able to make it back.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds very minor whatever it is, you know, his

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<v Speaker 1>his contusion above his knee or whatever it is. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's gonna They're gonna force him on

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<v Speaker 1>this short turnaround, considering it's the Jets. But look, Hayden

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<v Speaker 1>Hurst can can easily step up, you know, as he

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<v Speaker 1>did this past Sunday. So for me, if you like

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<v Speaker 1>this game, this is probably where it's gonna end up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going anywhere near it. I completely get it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I cannot take a team, any team against a Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>That Jets are a borderline competent team. I really can't

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<v Speaker 1>take them a team giving them more than two touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time you bring up a good point,

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<v Speaker 1>Adam's probably not gonna play. It's hard to see them

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<v Speaker 1>keeping it at all close here, So for me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a complete stay away. But I think fourteen and a

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<v Speaker 1>half forty five with only a couple days before the

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<v Speaker 1>line moves, I think that's probably where it's gonna end up,

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<v Speaker 1>whichever side you like.

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<v Speaker 2>On to just one more sorry, real quick. The Ravens

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<v Speaker 2>lead the league in blitz percentage as well. I saw

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<v Speaker 2>stat today Earl Thomas has blitzed or filled like a

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<v Speaker 2>run gap more frequently this season than he had his

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<v Speaker 2>entire Seahawks career. And we saw on that Monday night

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<v Speaker 2>specifically where Darnold was seeing ghosts. That's what he struggled

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<v Speaker 2>with the most is pressure. So if they bring all

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<v Speaker 2>that pressure and they've got Humphrey and Peters and Jimmy

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<v Speaker 2>Smith cooking outside, I don't know how the Jets moved

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<v Speaker 2>the ball either, So this one might just be a

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<v Speaker 2>nightmare scenario forgetting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be ugly. There's gonna have to be like

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy special teamers or a fumble. Let's run back

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<v Speaker 1>for a touchdown or something like that to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets in it, but still more than two touchdowns. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't get in on it. I'm staying away either side.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on to the Broncos. At the Chiefs here,

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<v Speaker 1>this is down a bit. It opened or the look

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<v Speaker 1>headline was twelve. From what I'm seeing, it's currently at

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs laying ten and a half. And the total has

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<v Speaker 1>dropped as well, from forty seven to forty five and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. A lot of that is probably the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Patrick Mahomes is dealing with this hand injury now.

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<v Speaker 1>X rays were negative and he Reid said he should play,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think you can probably expect him out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Although they're in this little bit of a weird position,

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<v Speaker 1>right they have no chance really to get one of

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<v Speaker 1>the buys almost certainly given their record, maybe I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>but a pretty low chance to get it. They've got

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<v Speaker 1>their division sewn up, so it's sort of like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you really want to risk Mahomes, you know, out there

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<v Speaker 1>if things are getting bang around, he'll play. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's really the reason that you're seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>spread and the total drop down. They do come off

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<v Speaker 1>the big win, of course against the Patriots. Damian Williams

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<v Speaker 1>might be back here. If not, I don't know who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be running the ball for the Chiefs. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't like to give the Sean McCoy all that many

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<v Speaker 1>carries over're all Spencer ware saw five carries. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a mess back there. All the Broncos. They

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<v Speaker 1>come up with a huge win over the Texans. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not nearly as bad as their record indicates, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit jeckyle and high. They've been on a

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<v Speaker 1>great cover streak. I believe it's seven of their last

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<v Speaker 1>nine games, so big spread here, Chiefs at home ten

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<v Speaker 1>and a half, with the total forty five and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Both teams stock soaring right now. Broncos were plus nine

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<v Speaker 2>win out rights, they've won two in a row with

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<v Speaker 2>their new shiny rookie quarterback, and then Patrick Mahomes and

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<v Speaker 2>company go into Foxborough and beat them for what I

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<v Speaker 2>think was their first loss at home in twenty two games.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're not really getting much value with either team here.

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<v Speaker 2>It is interesting that you did bring up that twelve

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<v Speaker 2>and a half look ahead. Now down to ten and

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<v Speaker 2>a half, I think we might see it continue to

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<v Speaker 2>go down because the Broncos are getting both the majority

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<v Speaker 2>of the tickets and the money. So if you do

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<v Speaker 2>like the Broncos, you probably should grab them as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as possible if you can get the hook. But it

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<v Speaker 2>seems like all the val, the value value, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>is being sucked out of this line if you like

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<v Speaker 2>Denver overall, I think it's a very fair line, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is an interesting point you bring up. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think about the Chiefs and their positioning within both the

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<v Speaker 2>division and the conference. And it's not like Matt Moor's

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<v Speaker 2>looked poor under center credit to Eddie Andy Reid and

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<v Speaker 2>his offense. So this is just a very fair line

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<v Speaker 2>now that it's moved off that twelve and a half

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<v Speaker 2>look ahead, and I'm not really interested in buying either

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<v Speaker 2>team off of really big wins last week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, neither am. I I think at ten and a

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<v Speaker 1>half the value is still with the Broncos, So I

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<v Speaker 1>still think, sort of as you mentioned, if you do

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<v Speaker 1>want them, it's probably a time you get in on

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<v Speaker 1>them before it drops down to ten, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it might again. I expect Mahomes to play.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't mean to suggest that he's going to get

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<v Speaker 1>shut down. But I do think that they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>pretty careful with them because I think they're in a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of unique position here where there's three games left

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<v Speaker 1>and their position is probably pretty set at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they could get a bye. I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to poo pooh, but you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>the Pats, you know, playing the Bengals and the Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>playing the Jets, it just seems unlikely that they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to go in that direction, so they'll probably be careful

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<v Speaker 1>with Mahomes. Doesn't mean he's gonna sit, but for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just something where he's a little banged up. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not something I really want to go anywhere. If I

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<v Speaker 1>have to choose something right now. I don't really care

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<v Speaker 1>about the total, but I would lean the Broncos at

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<v Speaker 1>ten and a half. Once it gets to ten or

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<v Speaker 1>even single digits, I just kind of want to stay away,

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<v Speaker 1>moving on Bucks at the Lions, the Bucks laying for

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<v Speaker 1>the total at forty seven and a half. We have

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<v Speaker 1>some weirdness in this game. My friend Mike Evans almost

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<v Speaker 1>certainly out after hurting his hamstring. Jameisston comes off a

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<v Speaker 1>huge game, but he has a small fracture in his thumb.

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<v Speaker 1>He was getting a second opinion today. I have not

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<v Speaker 1>seen it. The early word sounded like he wouldn't miss

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<v Speaker 1>any time. Of course, he got taken out briefly right

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<v Speaker 1>around halftime to get that looked at, and he played

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<v Speaker 1>great after that for the most part. So looks he

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<v Speaker 1>should be able to play. But who knows. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course you're in that position where he takes a bad

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<v Speaker 1>hit or something like that on his thumb, who knows

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<v Speaker 1>what happens to Meanwhile, the Lions are the Lions. David

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<v Speaker 1>Blow doesn't do all that much, the defense doesn't do

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<v Speaker 1>all that much. Nobody does all that much ever, but

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of hang around for the most part in games.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel here about the Bucks playing four

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<v Speaker 1>in the total at forty seven and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that Winston injury reminiscent of the Browns the previous week.

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<v Speaker 2>Baker hits his thumb before halftime, gets removed, and then

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<v Speaker 2>comes back at the start of the third quarter. Buck's

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<v Speaker 2>coming off three straight wins a somewhat good Jamis game.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we could just throw out interceptions. They're just

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<v Speaker 2>to be expected.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't understand, right, every Jamis game is that's a

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<v Speaker 1>minimum of three turnovers. So the fact that he just

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<v Speaker 1>put up the stats, you're right, you just throw out

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<v Speaker 1>all those interceptions.

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<v Speaker 2>Counting stats legend Jameis Winston. I think he's a favorite

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<v Speaker 2>now to lead the league in yards, touchdowns, end interceptions,

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<v Speaker 2>which is pretty remarkable. Well, yeah, I am never buying

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<v Speaker 2>the Bucks off of three straight wins as road favorites

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<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and nineteen. I know the Lions are bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I know something blow or blow is horrific, but I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't have it in my fiber to click the

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<v Speaker 2>Buccaneers in the spot. So I'm going to close my eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>pinch my nose, and probably take the four in the

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<v Speaker 2>spot with Detroit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I hate to do this because it's the third

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<v Speaker 1>straight game, but I'm avoiding this game. Super content is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be tough, man, because we've got just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all these lines where I'm like, Nope, don't want any

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<v Speaker 1>piece of that. It's very difficult here. Ordinarily, I honestly

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<v Speaker 1>I would lean the Bucks because I think they're playing

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<v Speaker 1>better overall. I think their horrific secondary has been a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit better. I think their offense is very difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to stop, and it's really tough with the Lions at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. I mean, what do you really have to

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<v Speaker 1>go forward to? Blow is not a guy who should

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<v Speaker 1>be quarterbacking in the NFL regularly anyway. So on a

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<v Speaker 1>normal day, I would take the Bucks at four. But

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<v Speaker 1>what's interesting the Evans injury, You've got the Winston sort

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, uncertainty, and yet the line has not moved.

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<v Speaker 1>It has stuck at minus four. So with all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not something I really want to go there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to back the Bucks on a

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<v Speaker 1>good day, So you know, for me, kind of in

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<v Speaker 1>that same vein, it's a stay away for me. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you know, I won't even say where i'd go

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<v Speaker 1>if I had to choose a side, because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to have to choose a side. If anything, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the over on the total forty seven

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<v Speaker 1>and a half. I think the Lines are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to put up points, you know, considering the

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks secondary, although it is getting better, they're still not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to completely contain Kenny Galladay. So

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<v Speaker 1>I do see the Lines being able to put up

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<v Speaker 1>some points here and you know, the Bucks, who basically

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<v Speaker 1>go over on every single game, are probably going to

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<v Speaker 1>get there. So of anything, I lean over on the

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<v Speaker 1>total of forty seven and a half where it is

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<v Speaker 1>right now, but for the spread, I'm not really going

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<v Speaker 1>near it. Let's move on to the Texans at the Titans.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a good one. Titans here are laying two

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<v Speaker 1>and a half at home with a total of fifty

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<v Speaker 1>up from forty eight and a half. This is really

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<v Speaker 1>for the South. It appears the Texans they're all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place. They beat the Patriots in convincing fashion, then

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<v Speaker 1>they get blown out by the Broncos. Their pass defense

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<v Speaker 1>had played much better of late, but they struggled on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Willfuller again misses the game with an injury, so his

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<v Speaker 1>status is certainly something to monitor. Meanwhile, the Titans come

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<v Speaker 1>off a huge win against the Raiders. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about last week. Rich. I did not understand

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<v Speaker 1>the Titans laying a field goal to the Raiders. I

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<v Speaker 1>understand that they had all that they were going cross country,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were close on a couple of games where

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<v Speaker 1>obviously they pulled out a few games that they easily

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<v Speaker 1>could have lost, like against the Colts and against the

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs and against the Bucks. But Ryan tannel is playing extremely,

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<v Speaker 1>extremely well. Derrick Henry is a scary man when it

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<v Speaker 1>starts getting cold. He is battling through that hamstring injury,

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<v Speaker 1>but he looked like he was okay. The defense continues

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<v Speaker 1>to play well overall. So you got a divisional game here,

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<v Speaker 1>both team's really desperate for the win. Titans now laying

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<v Speaker 1>under a field goal two and a half with the

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<v Speaker 1>high total of fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this was a one and a half look ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>So moving in the direction of the Titans. They're getting

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<v Speaker 2>credits with this massive winning streak and the performances that

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan Tannehill is putting together. Texans last week, massively inflated

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<v Speaker 2>line they got, I think it moved from seven and

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<v Speaker 2>a half to nine thanks to their victory against the Patriots,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they go out and lay an absolute stinker

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<v Speaker 2>that we referenced earlier with the Broncos coming into town.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this line is fair, and if I had

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<v Speaker 2>to choose, I think I might take Houston just because

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<v Speaker 2>I need to sell this Titans touchdown offensive efficiency. Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>Tannehill looking like Joe Montana because my eyes have seen

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan Tannehill play too poorly in the past for me

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<v Speaker 2>to buy these recent performances as something that are indicative

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<v Speaker 2>going forward. I will say my favorite aspect of this

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<v Speaker 2>game is the total. I like playing the under fifty

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<v Speaker 2>in this game. I think because the stakes are so high,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you said for the South, I think this will

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<v Speaker 2>be a little more of a grind your game than

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<v Speaker 2>most people expect. And then yeah, the Tannehill regression is

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<v Speaker 2>a real thing, and the Titans defense is excellent, so

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Texans might be held in check as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think, really close game, really fair line. But

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<v Speaker 2>give me the under on fifty in this game. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it'll be a little more low scoring than people think.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I honestly I agree with you on the total

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. I think this is you know, you got

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<v Speaker 1>a divisional game. Actually oddly enough, I mean we're in

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<v Speaker 1>week fifteen. These teams haven't played yet. I mean they're

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<v Speaker 1>playing again in week seventeen, which is a little weird,

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<v Speaker 1>but so you know, when you have the second game

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<v Speaker 1>with the divisional game, I feel like, well, the teams

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<v Speaker 1>really know what they're about. They don't have that here.

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<v Speaker 1>But either way, I agree with you and the Texans

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<v Speaker 1>defense overall. I mean, I know they had a bad

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<v Speaker 1>game against the Broncos, but overall they've been playing a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit better even without JJ Watt, So I do

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<v Speaker 1>find this to be closer to a defensive struggle. So

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<v Speaker 1>I also like the under fifty. I admit though, and

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<v Speaker 1>my bosses tease me because they know now I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>all in on the Titans suddenly. But if I had

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<v Speaker 1>to lean one way or another, if you're under a

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<v Speaker 1>field goal, I like the Titans. I'm kind of buying

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Dan right now. I mean, I don't know whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not it was Miami, but the thing is, I've

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<v Speaker 1>watched him really closely. He is playing really, really well.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't fluky right now. You know, not only is

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<v Speaker 1>he doing it with his legs, but he's making good reads.

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<v Speaker 1>He's incredibly accurate at the moment. I get he has

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<v Speaker 1>a whole career of mediocrity behind him, but with the

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<v Speaker 1>way he's playing right now, I'm really am backing it.

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<v Speaker 1>And more so than him, it's really Henry Man. He

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<v Speaker 1>did this last year where he got going at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the year and you just don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>tackle him once it gets a little cold. Who wants

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<v Speaker 1>to tackle that guy? At this point, he's playing great,

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<v Speaker 1>so as long as he's healthy, I would lean slightly

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<v Speaker 1>towards the Titans. I'm not sure if I'm willing to

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<v Speaker 1>bet it, but under the key number of three, I

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<v Speaker 1>lean that way. But the big thing here I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you is the total at fifty and again it's

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<v Speaker 1>trended up. I like it now that you can get

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<v Speaker 1>in and certainly get some value there. Moving on here

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<v Speaker 1>to the Dolphins at the Giants. Giants here are currently

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<v Speaker 1>laying a field goal with a total of forty seven

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<v Speaker 1>and a half. We are recording this in the middle

0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.560
<v Speaker 1>of the Giants Eagles game. It's approaching halftime, so we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know exactly what happens here, but it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be Eli Manning under center again next week. Daniel Jones

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<v Speaker 1>has basically been giving a two to four week timetable,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's probably gonna miss this game. Meanwhile, the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>continue to play hard, but they lose Devonte Parker to

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<v Speaker 1>a concussion, Albert Wilson gets injured. Two really bad teams.

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<v Speaker 1>This line is just basically I think bookmakers being like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Goad you know, get somebody give us

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<v Speaker 1>something on this. So what are you giving us? A

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<v Speaker 1>Giants slaying a field goal total at forty seven and

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<v Speaker 1>a half, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to back trips to the Meadowlands and MetLife Stadium

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the worst punishments that you can dole

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<v Speaker 2>out to this historically bad Dolphins team. Yeah, on the surface,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to lay the points with the Giants, just

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<v Speaker 2>because the Dolphins truly have reverted to the form that

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<v Speaker 2>they showed in the first couple of weeks of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not really in love with other side on

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<v Speaker 2>the spread. So again, I'm going to revert to the

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<v Speaker 2>total and I'm going to go to the other side

0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.520
<v Speaker 2>and maybe the fish style here. And that's the over

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<v Speaker 2>on forty seven and a half. This game is defense

0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:09.080
<v Speaker 2>sold separately and specifically. The Dolphins have been playing these

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<v Speaker 2>massively high totals the last couple of weeks fifty seven,

0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:17.040
<v Speaker 2>sixty five, sixty eight, and then last week against our

0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:19.920
<v Speaker 2>beloved Jets, the total was forty three, but the Dolphins

0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:23.359
<v Speaker 2>kicked seven field goals, So even if they turned half

0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:27.680
<v Speaker 2>of those drives or three out of seven into touchdown drives,

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<v Speaker 2>this shoots well over forty seven and a half. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think the lack of defense FITs' ability to push

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<v Speaker 2>the ball down the field at all costs is intriguing.

0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.080
<v Speaker 2>The one thing I will say on this is that

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<v Speaker 2>if neither DeVante Parker nor Albert Wilson go both were

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<v Speaker 2>taken out with the concussions on Sunday, I'm less excited

0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:52.080
<v Speaker 2>about this forty seven and a half. But even if

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<v Speaker 2>we get one of those guys, I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>shooting over.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have faith in Alan Hearn, you can get

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff then I actually, I'll be honest. I maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's partly because you never know his concussions. You don't

0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:08.240
<v Speaker 1>know what's gonna happen, But you know, I'm sure they're

0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:10.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna be careful with Parker at this point, he's been great.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of lean the under actually, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>get you make good points in this game, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you do have Parker injured, and let's just you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>you're basically putting that as a qualifier. I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 1>not expecting him to play at the moment. And really, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this game that I'm watching, you know, the

0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Eagles certainly have a decent defense and it's in the rain.

0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.359
<v Speaker 1>But the Giants with Eli Manning do not strike me

0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:34.200
<v Speaker 1>as a team who's going to be able to move

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<v Speaker 1>the ball and put up significant amount of points even

0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:39.800
<v Speaker 1>against the Dolphins defense. So for me, forty seven and

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<v Speaker 1>a half, I mean, it's a solid number. I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of lean the under at this point, but again, it

0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:48.200
<v Speaker 1>a little bit is dependent on whether Parker Albert Wilson whatever,

0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:50.600
<v Speaker 1>it's really about Parker. He is the guy who makes

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<v Speaker 1>it go. So if Parker plays, I'd probably stay away

0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:56.080
<v Speaker 1>from the total overall. But if he doesn't play, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>all over the under here. I at forty seven and

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<v Speaker 1>a half with the spread, I just no, I have

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<v Speaker 1>no interest in betting on the Giants against the Dolphins

0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:05.880
<v Speaker 1>with a three point spread, so I would stay away

0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:08.560
<v Speaker 1>from it there. Let's move on to the Seahawks at

0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:11.359
<v Speaker 1>the Panthers. Seahawks here are laying six and the total

0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:14.040
<v Speaker 1>at forty eight and a half. Panthers just a sinking

0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.119
<v Speaker 1>ship here. Kyle Allen is going to remain the starter,

0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:19.960
<v Speaker 1>but their defense has totally caved in. Seahawks mean want

0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:21.840
<v Speaker 1>they get beaten up pretty good by the Rams on

0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Sunday Night Football. They lose for Shod Penny. The over

0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.640
<v Speaker 1>under for carries for Chris Carson against this abysmal run

0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:29.840
<v Speaker 1>defense is like twenty eight or something like that. Is

0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:31.960
<v Speaker 1>that going to be enough with the Seahawks laying six

0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:34.240
<v Speaker 1>in Carolina and a total at forty eight and a half.

0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, ACL injury for Shod Penny, which is just absolutely

0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:41.760
<v Speaker 2>brutal for the kid. They finally got him going after

0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:46.000
<v Speaker 2>stubbornly sending Chris Carson for one yard and a cloud

0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:48.280
<v Speaker 2>of dust for several weeks this season, and then the

0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:51.520
<v Speaker 2>kid goes out and suffers an ACL injury, which I mean,

0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:52.640
<v Speaker 2>it's just brutal.

0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:56.240
<v Speaker 2>The Hawks are one of the few teams in twenty

0:21:56.320 --> 0:22:00.159
<v Speaker 2>nineteen that want to run the ball, establish it, as

0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:03.080
<v Speaker 2>the kids say nowadays. And as you noted, the Panthers

0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:07.280
<v Speaker 2>are an absolute triage unit up front on the defensive line,

0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:10.439
<v Speaker 2>and this is absolutely the way to attack them. So

0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:17.439
<v Speaker 2>man six is just so many points. Four was the

0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:21.399
<v Speaker 2>look ahead Seahawks go out and look horrific in primetime

0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:24.480
<v Speaker 2>and the line moves in the other direction just because

0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:28.880
<v Speaker 2>the Panthers seem to have quit, lose their coach, go

0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:34.840
<v Speaker 2>on the road, look completely lethargic. If you think the

0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Carolina Panthers will show any signs of professional pride and

0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:46.360
<v Speaker 2>go out and play a football game like normal, then

0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:48.800
<v Speaker 2>I think you have to like the plus six in

0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:53.160
<v Speaker 2>this spot. But that is completely uncertain now that they've

0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:56.000
<v Speaker 2>lost their coach and with the effort they gave last

0:22:56.000 --> 0:23:00.919
<v Speaker 2>week against a pretty poor Falcons team. So the sharp

0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:04.479
<v Speaker 2>person inside me is screaming to take the six points,

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:09.199
<v Speaker 2>but you need some real intestinal fortitude in order to

0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:09.679
<v Speaker 2>fire that.

0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the sharp side is probably the Panthers.

0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:16.240
<v Speaker 1>And I don't mind to be square on this one

0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:18.199
<v Speaker 1>because I'm all over the Seahawks if you get them

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:20.720
<v Speaker 1>under a touchdown. Look, I faded the Panthers, you know,

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I've been fading them lately, certainly faded them against the

0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Falcons this week. They're just done, dude, Like, I get

0:23:27.160 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you didn't have the fired our coach. You know, let's

0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:32.800
<v Speaker 1>rally around and maybe make that a thing. No, they're done.

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Their defense looks like they have absolutely no interest in

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.840
<v Speaker 1>tackling anyone whatsoever. They're just gonna play out the season.

0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:40.640
<v Speaker 1>And you know, the Seahawks coming off that loss, now

0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:43.520
<v Speaker 1>they gotta I mean, they're gonna be hungry. They're obviously

0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:45.760
<v Speaker 1>in the dogfight to you know what. They might be

0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:48.280
<v Speaker 1>the number one seed, they might be the number five seed.

0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:51.240
<v Speaker 1>It's a big difference there. You know they're gonna look

0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:53.480
<v Speaker 1>to get back on track here. Six is a lot

0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 1>under a touchdown now. I feel completely fine with it. Honestly,

0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:58.520
<v Speaker 1>if you get up to that key number of seven,

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:01.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably gonna stay. But if I get six is

0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:03.879
<v Speaker 1>a big number. Don't care if you. I think the

0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Panthers are completely done. I think that the books have

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:09.640
<v Speaker 1>not comple fully adjusted to what they are at this point.

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:12.119
<v Speaker 1>So for me, I don't really care about the total.

0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:14.360
<v Speaker 1>But at laying six, I'm gonna take that and I'm

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:17.080
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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move on to an intriguing divisional gamer

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Bears at the Packers. Packers are currently laying four. This

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.960
<v Speaker 1>has been trending down now for a while, the total

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:41.480
<v Speaker 1>at forty one. Bears are starting to feel it a

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:43.880
<v Speaker 1>little bit. Mitchell Trubisky has played very well of late.

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:45.720
<v Speaker 1>The Bears need to win out to have any shot

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 1>at the playoffs. They are down. Rocon Smith here on

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:49.639
<v Speaker 1>defense is going to miss the rest of the season

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:52.400
<v Speaker 1>with the torn peck. Meanwhile, the Packers beat the Redskins,

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:56.160
<v Speaker 1>but they just do not have that killer instinct at

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 1>the moment. The offense works, but it rarely clicks on

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:02.040
<v Speaker 1>all cylinders. They are beatable on the ground. That's not

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:05.960
<v Speaker 1>really where the Bears sort of shining. Dave Montgomery is capable,

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 1>but he hasn't really gotten gung. So how do you

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>feel here, Bear's visiting the Packers. Packers now laying just

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:12.120
<v Speaker 1>four with the total of forty one.

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look at it seven and a half. Yep, and

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 2>now we're down to four. I know Mitchell Trubisky has

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:21.240
<v Speaker 2>looked good, but and they have the mini by the

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 2>couple extra days arrest, but that is certainly a plummet.

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 2>But just like you said, what is this Packers offense

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 2>averaging eighteen point eight points per game since Halloween. I

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 2>don't know what to make of this squad. You talk,

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people are talking about the Patriots and

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to give Brady a pass because guys aren't

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:45.359
<v Speaker 2>getting open. But outside of DeVante Adams, the Packers are

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 2>having the same issues in guys getting open. And then

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:52.240
<v Speaker 2>Rogers is kind of doing this thing where kind of

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 2>like Deshaan Watson in clean Pockets, he's just breaking down

0:26:57.400 --> 0:27:00.080
<v Speaker 2>and freelancing a little bit, and it's just all a

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:04.200
<v Speaker 2>bit odd. All of that being said, with this line

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 2>as depressed as it is, I think you have to

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:10.639
<v Speaker 2>like the home team at four. I'm not buying into

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:14.719
<v Speaker 2>this Bear's resurgence. Much of that has to do with

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 2>them playing a Lions team with their third string quarterback

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 2>and then a Cowboys team which cannot compete against teams

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 2>with the pulse it seems, so give me the Packers

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:28.920
<v Speaker 2>at four. Very strange line movement off of seven and

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:30.400
<v Speaker 2>a half being looked at.

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:33.399
<v Speaker 1>I think if you like the Packers is where you

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>gotta get them. I don't think it's going lower than this, because,

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 1>as you said, it has moved a ton coming in,

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.679
<v Speaker 1>so I kind of agree with you. It's more of

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 1>a game where I don't have a great feeling for it.

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:45.360
<v Speaker 1>But if I had to pick a side, it would

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 1>be the Packers at this point because four is just

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>too little for a divisional game for a team playing

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 1>at home. You know, the defense hasn't been quite as strong,

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 1>but it's still there. It's still solid against the pass,

0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think the Bears really have that run

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:01.640
<v Speaker 1>a bit that's going to be able to take advantage

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:04.919
<v Speaker 1>of where the Packers real deficiency is on defense. So

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 1>I think this is probably where it starts stops. I

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's getting down to three or anything like that.

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 1>So if you like the Packers as you do, as

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I kind of do, I think this is a spot

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 1>to get him because I could see this closing back

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 1>closer to five as the sharp guys probably come in

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 1>and realize the value there. Let's move on to the

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Patriots at the Bengals. Patriots here laying eight and a

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 1>half with the total of forty and a half. Can

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 1>you do it? Rich? Can you take the Patriots here?

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>They look terrible offensively. Tom Brady has that giant rap

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 1>on his elbow, The defense has not been elite. But

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 1>then there are the Bengals, Joe Mixon, Tyler Boyd. I

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>don't really have all that much to say about them.

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they look a little better with Andy Dalton

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 1>back there, but they're just not a good football team.

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 1>So how do you feel here about the Patriots visiting

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals eight and a half total of forty and

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 1>a half.

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 2>I would have taken them at the ten and a

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 2>half look ahead, and I certainly would have taken them

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 2>at the ten open as well. But people are pounding

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 2>the Bengals down to eight and a half because they're

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 2>realizing that this Patriots offense is not good enough to

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 2>cover these large spreads. I mean, they absolutely dominated a

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 2>team like the Cowboys a couple weeks ago. Right you

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 2>walk away from that game thinking that the Cowboys had

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 2>really no shot and the Patriots couldn't extend never could

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 2>extend the lead, never could get the ball in the

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 2>end zone. And I don't foresee them being able to

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 2>do that for the rest of the season. And the

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 2>one thing that the Patriots want to do on defense

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 2>is they want to funnel you to run the ball,

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 2>and the Bengals want to run the ball. Despite being

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 2>a bad team. Joe Mixon has actually gotten it going

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 2>here these last couple of weeks. Dalton is back and

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 2>he's not the greatest, but he's probably replacement level where

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:56.120
<v Speaker 2>that's not the type of quarterback player they were getting.

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 2>So I think all the value has unfortunately already been

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 2>sucked out of this line. But even at eight and

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 2>a half, I still shade the home team. The Patriots

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 2>are just not good enough to be laying a number

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 2>that's this large on the road.

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 1>There's got to come a point, man, There's got to

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 1>come a point where they just take all their anger

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>from the last couple of games and just let it

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 1>explode on someone. And you know, eight and a half

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I lean the Pats, I really do. I agree that

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 1>they're you know, they're They're not nearly in the same

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>class right now as they were at any point over

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>the last several years. But the Bengals are just a

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>really terrible football team. They really are. They're a little

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 1>bit more competent with Andy Dalton, but I don't foresee

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>them being able to move the ball very well. I mean,

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Autun Tate is probably going to miss this game as well,

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>So it's really just Tyler Boyd and Joe Mixon. And

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know what Belichick does, He takes away

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>whatever you do best. That's probably going to be mixing,

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 1>even though again they want to funnel the run. As

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>you said, they're probably going to focus on taking Mixon away.

0:30:57.400 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I think the Bengals are going to have a tough

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>time scoring, and I think the Patriots are gonna be

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>able to do enough with their scheme. You know, they

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 1>don't have the playmakers at the moment. It's really Julian

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Edelman that's it. I don't know, maybe Sony Michelle gets

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of carries, but I feel like this is

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 1>a spot where the Patriots they have to by the way,

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>because the Bills are playing extremely well. As you know

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:19.479
<v Speaker 1>that both teams losses past weekend, but the Bills are

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 1>right on their heels. They cannot take a chance of

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>having the Bills catch them. I think they're gonna pull

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>out all the stops here. I think they're gonna cover

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 1>it at eight and a half. If it was at

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 1>ten or ten and a half, like you mentioned earlier, Yeah,

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 1>at that point the values with the Bengals, But here,

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Man just got a feeling that this

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 1>is kind of a spot where they're gonna look to

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>get right. I don't love it, but if I'm forced

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 1>to take a side, I'll go with the Pats at

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 1>eight and a half. Let's go on to the Eagles

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 1>at the Redskins. Eagles here are laying six and the

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 1>total at forty and a half. Again, the Eagles game

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 1>is going on right now. Al Sean Jeffrey has been

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 1>carted off. I think Lane Johnson left trying to watch

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>it out of the corner of my eyes. So they

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 1>are just dropping like flies. They've also played terribly of

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.959
<v Speaker 1>late the Redskins. Meanwhile, they keep it close against the Packers.

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 1>They have lost arius guys. They love to run the

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>ball all day, and that is the Eagles strength. So

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>it really doesn't set up well for the Redskins. But

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>how do you feel here about the Eagles laying six

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>in Washington with a total of forty and a half.

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Eagles one of the few pass funnel defenses

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:22.480
<v Speaker 2>in the league. Right They want you to run the

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 2>ball because that's how they can stop you. While their

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 2>secondary is just below average. We're seeing Eli Manning look

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 2>like a competent quarterback in twenty nineteen on the road,

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 2>which is something that should not be happening. That being said,

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Eagles minus six on the road is just playing stupid.

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 2>In my opinion. They need to be able to in

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 2>order to be minus six on the road in professional football,

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 2>you need to get out to leads and then extend leads.

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 2>That's the only way that you consistently cover these numbers

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 2>on the road in pro football, and the Eagles offense

0:32:57.000 --> 0:33:00.120
<v Speaker 2>has just not been able to do that whatsoever. And

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 2>you can blame it on WinCE, you can blame it

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 2>on this receiving corps which has not been healthy the

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 2>entire year, lack of a running game.

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>What have you.

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 2>But the fact of the matter is is that the

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Eagles offense just is flat bad and they're not going

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 2>to be able to cover six consistently enough Washington. Even

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 2>when they're behind, even when they have no chance of winning,

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 2>they just run the life out of the game. Bill

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Callahan just wants to line it up and run the football,

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 2>which doesn't make sense if you want to win a

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 2>football game. But if you're holding a plus six ticket

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 2>and you just want to see that clock take off,

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 2>it is certainly in your favor, So Washington. I talked

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 2>about professional Pride earlier and will the Panther show it?

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I know Washington will show it. They're three to ten,

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 2>but they still go out there. They fight in the trenches,

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 2>they play defense, they run the ball. Not sexy things,

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 2>but very sexy when you're holding a plus six ticket

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 2>at home. So give me the Washington professional football team.

0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree. Other than the Seahawks, this one is,

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 1>oddly enough, my favorite one that we've gone through so far.

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I certainly like the Redskins. My guess is that the

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>spread is going to drop after, you know, pretty coming

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>up soon given all the injuries that the Eagles are

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 1>suffering tonight. So if you like it, I'd lock it in.

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 1>And I also you made a good point with running

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 1>the ball constantly. May not be good for catching up,

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:17.879
<v Speaker 1>but it's good for sort of keeping the game close.

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 1>It also is good for running out the clock and

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:23.359
<v Speaker 1>keeping a low total. So for me, given both team

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>struggles on offenses, forty and a half, it's not particularly high.

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Of course, it's a load total, but I still like

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 1>this game to come in as under, so I'm going

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:34.399
<v Speaker 1>to be locking in both of those bets. Right after

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 1>this podcast, because I feel pretty good about them. But yeah,

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a crazy, crazy world. But the Redskins getting six

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 1>from the Eagles is one of my favorite bets that

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 1>we've gone through so far. Let's move on to the

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Browns that the Cardinals. Browns laying three with a total

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:49.879
<v Speaker 1>of forty eight. The Browns beat the Bengals, but they

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 1>just kind of look like they don't really care about

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 1>life right now. Odell Buckham Junior playing through a sports turnia.

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfield looks like he forgot the setus alarm and

0:34:58.400 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 1>he rolled out of bed and barely got to the

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:02.399
<v Speaker 1>game on time. Meanwhile, the Cardinals have lost several games

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:05.439
<v Speaker 1>in a row. The defense continues to be subpar, Kyler

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:07.919
<v Speaker 1>Murray having a little bit of trouble getting things going

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 1>against some tough defenses. It'll be a little bit easier

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>for him here. So how do you feel about the

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:13.839
<v Speaker 1>Browns sang three with the total of forty eight.

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 2>What are the Browns doing well? Why do they win

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 2>football games and then have these super strange things happen,

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 2>whether it's Miles Garrett attacking the quarterback with a helmet

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:29.360
<v Speaker 2>or Baker Mayfield throwing the entire training sta under the bus,

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:33.479
<v Speaker 2>like these things are happening after wins. Well, what's gonna

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:35.240
<v Speaker 2>happen if this team goes on a losing streak?

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Just to be clear, though you knew, right, everybody knew

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 1>this was a possibility.

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 2>You got that group of.

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Guys together and if they struggled, it was going to

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 1>be a powder keg. So this is it's a dysfunctional,

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 1>dysfunctional atmosphere at the moment.

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 2>What a strange team, and yet I think they're actually

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:56.720
<v Speaker 2>a decent playing this spot. How do the Cardinals get stops?

0:35:56.840 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 2>They just something Duck Hodges while in there with no juju,

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 2>no connor, and went out and scored points in professional

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 2>football on the road, Like these things should not be happening.

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 2>And it's as clown as the Browns act from Monday

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:17.799
<v Speaker 2>to Saturday. On Sunday, this offense has been clicking, specifically

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 2>with the return of Kareem Hunt and Freddy Kitchens rolling

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:24.280
<v Speaker 2>out this twenty one offense with both backs on the field,

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 2>they've just been fantastic. So I think two and a

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 2>half is a bit two and a half look ahead

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:33.479
<v Speaker 2>was a bit short. I think it's more respectable where

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 2>it is at the full three, but I still think

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 2>there's a little bit of value on Cleveland. My favorite

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:41.399
<v Speaker 2>bet is the over on forty eight. Though we all

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:44.840
<v Speaker 2>know Cliff and Kyler that are running at the fastest

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 2>pace in the league almost twenty five seconds flat per

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:51.959
<v Speaker 2>play in games that they are in, They're not going

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 2>downfield as much as I'd like them too. The horizontal

0:36:55.520 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 2>raid has been bleeding my eyes out for fourteen weeks now,

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 2>but they actually started to push the ball downfield last week,

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 2>albeit against a great defense, and it ended up in

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:10.360
<v Speaker 2>three interceptions. But what do you guys have to lose.

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:13.759
<v Speaker 2>Let's just start throwing the rock downfield and let Kyler cook.

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 2>So I like the over on forty eight. In this

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 2>game between the Browns and the Cardinals, I.

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Don't love the spread. I just don't trust either team

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 1>at this point. I could see the Cardinals pulling out

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 1>this victory at this point at home, one of their

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 1>last chances to really get right. But I completely agree

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 1>with you on the total. I think both teams are

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:31.879
<v Speaker 1>going to go a little crazy here. I think it's

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 1>just going to be a lot of touchdowns. I think

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals are going to be extremely happy to not

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 1>have to be looking at teams like the Steelers, you know,

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 1>and tough defenses that they've had to face of late.

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 1>So I can see this one really going well over

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 1>The total forty eight, it's a you know, not a

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 1>crazy number. It's a high number, but I think they're

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:51.239
<v Speaker 1>going to sort past it. So that's really the bad

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I like on this game. The total I'm probably going

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 1>to stay away from. I just do not trust the

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:57.879
<v Speaker 1>Browns to be able to as you know, as much

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>as I see them scoring, I don't really see them

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 1>stopping the Cardinals at this point either. Let's move on

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 1>to the game that only betters are going to be watching,

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:09.320
<v Speaker 1>the Jaguars at the Raiders. Raiders here are laying six.

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 1>The total is at forty five and a half. It's

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:15.080
<v Speaker 1>who wants it least in this game, I mean, both

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:17.800
<v Speaker 1>just look like they've completely quit. The Jaguars continue to

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>get absolutely blown out. They're probably down DJ Shark in

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 1>this game. The defense cannot stop anybody. But they're also

0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders who don't have Hunter Renfro anymore. They lost

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Falster Moro, They're playing without any PEP whatsoever. So how

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 1>do you feel here about the Raiders at home lank

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 1>six with the total of forty five and a half.

0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Poor Josh Jacobs takes the shot before the game, thinks

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:39.759
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna go, but he gets ruled out.

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 1>He's got a fractured shoulder. Dude. I mean, I don't

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 1>know how long you're gonna talk. I mean, he may play.

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:46.719
<v Speaker 1>He was close to playing last week, so he may

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:48.399
<v Speaker 1>play in this game, but who knows.

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Tough guy. You know, as I sit here complaining about,

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, fifty five degree weather here in southern California

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 2>being too cold, this guy has a fractured shoulder and

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:01.840
<v Speaker 2>he's trying to put it play pro football. So good on.

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 2>The rookies had a great campaign. This is just too

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 2>many points, right, Raiders laying six. I know the Jaguars

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 2>were horrific last week. I know Gardner Minshew has those

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 2>blow up games in him. DJ Shark on the injury

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:22.759
<v Speaker 2>report very concerning. I understand all of these things, but

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 2>I cannot abide by the Raiders being minus six in

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 2>pro football here in twenty nineteen. So another just like

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:34.320
<v Speaker 2>the Lions, close your eyes, pinch your nose, take the points.

0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean, I'm not going with the Raiders. I

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:39.400
<v Speaker 1>promise you that, But I'm not going with the Jaguars.

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:41.360
<v Speaker 1>There's just no way I can. I can go with

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 1>the total though, because I think both teams are going

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 1>to be able to put up a lot of points

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:47.880
<v Speaker 1>right now. I mean, if Jacob's plays great, you know,

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:50.439
<v Speaker 1>DeAndre Washington was more than competent at this point. Jalen

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Richard is used to getting in there and catching passes.

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:55.360
<v Speaker 1>I think the Raiders are going to be able to

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:57.440
<v Speaker 1>put up points, which again they did against the Titans.

0:39:57.440 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I think they put up twenty one. They're able to

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:01.720
<v Speaker 1>score some. I think the Jaguars, I mean, their offense

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:03.839
<v Speaker 1>is not incompetent. You know, they didn't have a great

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:06.359
<v Speaker 1>game of course against the Chargers, but I think even

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 1>without Chark, who I expect to miss this game, I

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>think they're still going to be able to put up points.

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I think Lennon Fournette is going to run wild, and

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:15.840
<v Speaker 1>obviously running is not great for the over but forty

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 1>five and a half now, I think the defenses are

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 1>going to struggle here to stop anybody. But I get you.

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean the Raiders laying six to twenty team right now,

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 1>you'd be like, give me that, but again, I've lost

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:26.960
<v Speaker 1>much money on the Jaguars of late. They're not a

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 1>team that I can back with any semblance of confidence.

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Let's move on here to the Vikings at the Chargers.

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:35.320
<v Speaker 1>The Vikings laying two and a half with the total

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 1>of forty four and a half down from forty six.

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I bet correctly this season for or

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:44.240
<v Speaker 1>against the Chargers, So take this for what you will,

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:47.759
<v Speaker 1>but to me, this line seems way too little. I

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 1>think the Vikings should be laying more than a field goal.

0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I get that the Chargers are better than their record.

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 1>They blew out of quitting Jags team, they got Derwin

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 1>James back. The Vikings are a good football team. Yeah,

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:01.439
<v Speaker 1>their pass defense is not so special, and yeah they're

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:04.360
<v Speaker 1>having to travel all the way out west. But less

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:07.359
<v Speaker 1>than a field goal, I don't know, man, I think

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that you know whether or not Adam Thielen returns in

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 1>this game. I think their offense is plenty capable of

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:14.680
<v Speaker 1>moving the ball well. I get that the Chargers run

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 1>defense has been better, especially of late. Melvin Ingram has

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 1>made their defense stronger, But I think the Vikings have

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:22.640
<v Speaker 1>a really, really solid offense. I think they can score

0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:25.719
<v Speaker 1>on anyone, and I just I don't get this underfield goal.

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 1>So for me, I really like the Vikings saying two

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and a half total forty four and a half I'm

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:32.759
<v Speaker 1>indifferent about. But how do you feel here with that

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 1>spread in that total?

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Adrian Fields Phillips back in that secondary as well, next

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 2>to Derwin James. I've been on a full fade of

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:43.440
<v Speaker 2>the Chargers this season and it's worked out pretty well

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 2>in spots like that Denver game where they were somehow

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 2>road favorites going to Mile High. I thought last week

0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:53.480
<v Speaker 2>was going to be a repeat, as we mentioned at

0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 2>the top, both of us one of the Jags in

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 2>the super contest that did not go over well, and

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 2>that's where you kind of get this half point of

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:03.840
<v Speaker 2>love for the Chargers. This was a plus three look aheadline,

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 2>which I agree with you. I think that's more of

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 2>a fair number, but it has ticked down to two

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:12.719
<v Speaker 2>and a half. I am afraid of Kirk Cousins on

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 2>the road outdoors. I'm still not a believer in him.

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't like if Deeland's not in this game, but

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 2>my gut is telling me that this Chargers team is

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 2>still well below average Philip Rivers is still, you know,

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:36.799
<v Speaker 2>seconds away from stepping away from the game, but I

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 2>don't know. It's suspiciously low. They're begging me to take

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 2>the Vikings, so I think I just have to press

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 2>pause on this game and step away.

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I completely get that. It is the

0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:50.799
<v Speaker 1>line where I looked at it and be like, why

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 1>do you want me to take the Vikings?

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 2>What's wrong?

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 1>What's wrong with taking the Vikings? You want me to

0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 1>take the Vikings. I don't understand this is problematic, but

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 1>sometimes I just take the Vikings in that situation. Anyway,

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:02.400
<v Speaker 1>if I look at it and I run the numbers

0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and everything sort of comes out that way, it does.

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Look the Charges are tough team to get a read

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 1>on because they're better than their record. They could have,

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, been much better this season. But in the end,

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 1>look the Vikings. They stop the run pretty well. They're

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:15.920
<v Speaker 1>vulnerable against the past. But if you're going to tell

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:17.920
<v Speaker 1>me that, you know, Philip Rivers is going to have

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:19.600
<v Speaker 1>to take this game and win it. I'm willing to

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 1>risk that. And I have a little more faith and

0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:23.319
<v Speaker 1>cousins than you do. I think he's played extremely well

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:25.640
<v Speaker 1>this year with or without Delan, I think they can

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 1>get going, especially given their run game, which is strong

0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:30.920
<v Speaker 1>all around, and Cook looks like he was fully healthy,

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:33.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, and if not, Alexander Mansen is perfectly cable

0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:35.360
<v Speaker 1>of stepping in. So I'm going to be on the

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:37.879
<v Speaker 1>Vikings right now, so long as we're underneath a field goal.

0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:40.439
<v Speaker 1>Let's move on to the Falcons at the forty nine ers.

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Forty nine ers currently laying ten and a half with

0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:45.279
<v Speaker 1>a total of forty seven. The Falcons come off the

0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:47.960
<v Speaker 1>drubbing of the Panthers. Their offensive line is getting a

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 1>bit healthier, but they do lose Calvin Ridley, one of

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 1>their best wide receivers. He's out now for the season

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:55.799
<v Speaker 1>with an abdomen injury. The forty nine ers, meanwhile, they

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:59.200
<v Speaker 1>win the monstrous game against the Saints. But they're coming

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:02.239
<v Speaker 1>off too really really tough games here, the first one

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 1>against the Ravens, this one against the Saints. They are

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 1>dealing with a ton of injuries. They're centers down, they're

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 1>down Richard Sherman, they're down d Ford. They're really really

0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 1>struggling right now with the injuries. But they're obviously the

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Superor team here. So how do you feel about the

0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:16.879
<v Speaker 1>forty nine Ers likening ten and a half at home

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:18.359
<v Speaker 1>with a total of forty seven.

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, despite that Marqui win, this line does not move

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:23.680
<v Speaker 2>off of the ten and a half look ahead, which

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:26.840
<v Speaker 2>is a bit surprising because I don't think the Falcons

0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:30.760
<v Speaker 2>victory last week was earth shattering in any way, shape

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:35.400
<v Speaker 2>or form. I lean a tiny bit to the Niners

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:38.400
<v Speaker 2>in this spot because I think the Falcons are more

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:41.080
<v Speaker 2>of the team that we saw the first half of

0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:43.759
<v Speaker 2>the season than the team that we've seen in the

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 2>last couple of weeks, where they got a pair of

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:49.920
<v Speaker 2>wins against a Panthers team that has revealed itself to

0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 2>be a bit fraudulent. And there's just something about Matt

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Ryan going across the country outdoors without one of his

0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 2>marquee weapons that makes me very weary about taking them

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:06.320
<v Speaker 2>in the spot. That being said, you mentioned the two games.

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:08.319
<v Speaker 2>The game before that it was a bit of a

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 2>boat racing by the Niners, but that Niners Packers game.

0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:15.240
<v Speaker 2>A lot goes went into that game in terms of scheming.

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:20.320
<v Speaker 2>So three exhausting games in a row. So while I

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 2>like the Niners, I don't love the Niners. What I

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:26.520
<v Speaker 2>do love is the under on forty seven. I think

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 2>the Niners are very interested in getting back to their

0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:33.920
<v Speaker 2>style of football, which is not eighty points in a dome.

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:38.080
<v Speaker 2>It is lining up and running the football in a

0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:42.520
<v Speaker 2>lot of different ways, getting the ball to Brada Yushchek

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:46.799
<v Speaker 2>Mos dirt guys on jet sweeps, and just dominating at

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:48.880
<v Speaker 2>the line of skirmide. So I like the under on

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:51.759
<v Speaker 2>forty seven. I think the Niners go out and win

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 2>this one pretty handily. So I do shade that ten

0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:56.719
<v Speaker 2>and a half, but I feel like they might run

0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 2>the life out of this game and kind of just

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:01.640
<v Speaker 2>take advantage of a subpar Falcons Seafens.

0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good call. I don't really love either

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 1>of these numbers. I honestly would have leaned towards the

0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Falcons with Ridley there. It's a wide receiver. It doesn't

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:14.120
<v Speaker 1>really affect the number, you know, significantly, but Ridley is

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:17.279
<v Speaker 1>a fantastic football player, and I think without him being

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:19.919
<v Speaker 1>there as that second option. I know, Austin Hooper's back,

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.400
<v Speaker 1>DeVonta Freeman's back, but without Ridley being there for that

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:25.359
<v Speaker 1>second option, even though the Niners are down Richard Terman,

0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I think they're gonna be able to try to take

0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Julio Jones out of this game, and that's going to

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:31.880
<v Speaker 1>really make the Falcons struggle. At the same time, I

0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 1>don't love it when you're over ten. That just makes

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 1>me a little nervous because the Falcons. The one thing

0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:38.640
<v Speaker 1>about them I was in one of the many who

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:40.440
<v Speaker 1>was calling for dan Quinn to be fired earlier in

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the season. They continue to play hard. I get, you know,

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:44.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to read too much into, you know,

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:47.880
<v Speaker 1>beating up on the Quinning Panthers team, but they continue

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 1>to play tough. It's just not a team that I'm

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:52.200
<v Speaker 1>really looking to fade when they're getting double digits at

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 1>this point. So this is probably gonna be a game

0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:55.319
<v Speaker 1>that I'll stay away from. I do like your call

0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:58.279
<v Speaker 1>on the under. Again, not something I'm overly excited about,

0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:01.200
<v Speaker 1>but I do like that. You know, they're probably gonna

0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:03.320
<v Speaker 1>want to get back to their bread and butter a

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:05.439
<v Speaker 1>little bit, especially with how good most of it looked

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:07.560
<v Speaker 1>this past weekend. Let's move on to the Rams that

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys. This one is trending down. The Cowboys were

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 1>laying three and the Rams come out and they beat

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 1>up on the Seahawks and the Cowboys are currently laying

0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 1>one and the total has ticked up to forty nine.

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:21.880
<v Speaker 1>The Rams, as I mentioned, they're starting to peek a

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:24.279
<v Speaker 1>little bit here. The defense is playing out of its mind.

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Todd Gurley looks fresh. Robert Woods has finally gotten involved.

0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:30.600
<v Speaker 1>The Cowboys, on the other hand, look awful. They're lifeless

0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:33.480
<v Speaker 1>against both the Bills and the Bears. The defense is

0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:36.320
<v Speaker 1>playing down. Amari Cooper is clearly battling through injury. So

0:47:36.320 --> 0:47:38.040
<v Speaker 1>how do you feel here about the Cowboys laying one

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:39.720
<v Speaker 1>with the total forty nine?

0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:42.480
<v Speaker 2>We talked about an interesting line move in that Bears

0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Packers game. This was Cowboys minus four last week and

0:47:48.520 --> 0:47:53.359
<v Speaker 2>now the Cowboys are plus one at home. Have two

0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:56.839
<v Speaker 2>teams ping ponged more than the Rams and the Cowboys

0:47:57.360 --> 0:48:01.279
<v Speaker 2>this season. Rams obviously coming off of a Super Bowl

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:07.120
<v Speaker 2>performance McVeigh the genius. They start off horrifically. Their offensive

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:11.960
<v Speaker 2>line kind of puts them in a horrific situation. Offense

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:14.799
<v Speaker 2>can't get going. Cowboys light the world on fire to

0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:17.680
<v Speaker 2>start the season and now have regressed now that they've

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:22.320
<v Speaker 2>actually played a couple of good teams. This line movement

0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:26.480
<v Speaker 2>is kind of crazy to me. Uh, I have to

0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:29.479
<v Speaker 2>take the Cowboys here. I like the Cowboys money line,

0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 2>if you're queasy about that. I think the Cowboys are

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:36.040
<v Speaker 2>a great teaser candidate, getting them up to plus seven

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:39.880
<v Speaker 2>at home. They've got the mini by this is the

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:44.280
<v Speaker 2>season on the line, and I'm still not bought in

0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:47.960
<v Speaker 2>to this Rams team. Their team is very obvious to

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:49.920
<v Speaker 2>figure out. Like I said, if you can get pressure

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:53.520
<v Speaker 2>on the quarterback, then you will have success against them.

0:48:53.680 --> 0:48:58.280
<v Speaker 2>And I think Lawrence Quinn and the guys up front

0:48:58.360 --> 0:49:01.320
<v Speaker 2>will be able to do enough to at least slow

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:04.719
<v Speaker 2>down this Rams offense. So I'm going to sell a

0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:10.120
<v Speaker 2>peaking Ram stock and buy a plummeting Cowboys stock stocky

0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:11.759
<v Speaker 2>stock low, give me the low stock here.

0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:15.919
<v Speaker 1>By the way, you made the good catch. I said

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:18.480
<v Speaker 1>it was the Cowboys laying one, which it was the

0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:21.560
<v Speaker 1>last time I checked, like two hours ago, and it's Cowboys.

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 1>You're right plus one now, So that is a giant,

0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:28.000
<v Speaker 1>giant line move. I don't think I could bring myself

0:49:28.040 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 1>to back the Cowboys at this point, but I do

0:49:31.320 --> 0:49:33.880
<v Speaker 1>see this as kind of something where the Rams just

0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 1>that's a huge win over the Seahawks on Sunday Night football.

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:39.879
<v Speaker 1>It's obviously a little bit of a short week for them.

0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it's really tough to get up for this

0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:44.840
<v Speaker 1>game at this point, now going into Dallas. So I

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:47.799
<v Speaker 1>think the Cowboys are the sharper side. I don't know

0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:50.799
<v Speaker 1>if I'm really there to bet it, just because, oh

0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:55.280
<v Speaker 1>my god, the Cowboys are just yea sucks, completely disinterested

0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:58.239
<v Speaker 1>in winning football games. I think They're not gonna be

0:49:58.280 --> 0:50:00.359
<v Speaker 1>able to run the ball as really as well as

0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:02.800
<v Speaker 1>they need to. I think Jalen Ramsey can take out Cooper.

0:50:03.239 --> 0:50:05.160
<v Speaker 1>So it's just a game where I think I'm going

0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:08.640
<v Speaker 1>to stay away. But you know the the you know,

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:10.839
<v Speaker 1>when it was the Cowboys laying four, I saw laying

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 1>three when I first saw it. That's the spot where

0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I was taking the rams and I was not hesitating

0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:17.560
<v Speaker 1>at this point. Now that the Cowboys are getting one,

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the sharp side is the Cowboys. But I'm you're a braver.

0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:21.759
<v Speaker 2>Man than I.

0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like the so thick I could pull the trigger

0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:26.400
<v Speaker 1>on this team at this point. Let's move on to

0:50:26.520 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 1>the Bills. At the Steelers, this line has also moved.

0:50:29.600 --> 0:50:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I saw the look at it, Steelers laying one. It's

0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:34.520
<v Speaker 1>now up to Steelers laying two and a half. The

0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:38.560
<v Speaker 1>total and abysmally low thirty six and a half. I

0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:41.040
<v Speaker 1>might like the under. I'm not even joking. The Bills

0:50:41.040 --> 0:50:43.279
<v Speaker 1>finally lose one here, a tough game against Baltimore. They

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:45.399
<v Speaker 1>were in it right up until the end. Now they

0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:48.440
<v Speaker 1>have to travel to Pittsburgh. They're flex to Sunday Night Football.

0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:50.359
<v Speaker 1>They take on a team that looks like it has

0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:54.120
<v Speaker 1>absolutely no business being in the playoffs, but they continue

0:50:54.120 --> 0:50:56.719
<v Speaker 1>to hold their own regardless of who they're playing. You

0:50:56.719 --> 0:50:59.640
<v Speaker 1>can argue with Dot Hodges and the Steelers off. Maybe

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:02.799
<v Speaker 1>get James Connor back here. You can't argue with their defense, though,

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:07.040
<v Speaker 1>which has been absolutely elite over the last ten weeks

0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:10.440
<v Speaker 1>or so. They win a close one against the Cardinals

0:51:10.480 --> 0:51:12.920
<v Speaker 1>in Arizona. How do you feel here about the Steelers

0:51:12.960 --> 0:51:15.040
<v Speaker 1>at home Sunday Night football laying two and a half

0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:17.120
<v Speaker 1>with the total of fifty six and a half.

0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:19.759
<v Speaker 2>Buffalo is only about two hundred miles from the Berg,

0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:23.799
<v Speaker 2>so the mafia might be out. This is what ten

0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:27.759
<v Speaker 2>years they were saying since last time the Bills were

0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:31.719
<v Speaker 2>on Sunday Night Football. I don't know what to expect here.

0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:34.240
<v Speaker 2>You talk about the total thirty six and a half,

0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:38.000
<v Speaker 2>the range of outcomes here to me seems so narrow.

0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:41.560
<v Speaker 2>What I mean is that whoever wins this game is

0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:45.440
<v Speaker 2>going to win this by such a small margin, and

0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:49.440
<v Speaker 2>there will be so few points scored in this game that, honestly,

0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:51.240
<v Speaker 2>I think my favorite thing to do in this game

0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:53.719
<v Speaker 2>is tease the Bills up to eight and a half,

0:51:53.880 --> 0:52:00.239
<v Speaker 2>because unless the apocalypse takes place, like, how often are

0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:03.520
<v Speaker 2>the Steelers winning this game by more than eight and

0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:07.560
<v Speaker 2>a half points? These are two good defenses. I think

0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:11.200
<v Speaker 2>I favor the Steelers a little bit more, but the

0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Bills have an excellent run funnel, They do a terrific

0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 2>job defending the pass, and even if Connor comes back,

0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:21.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't trust the Steelers to just line up and

0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:23.680
<v Speaker 2>run the football. On the other side of the ball,

0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:27.359
<v Speaker 2>Bills offense has been frisky. Josh Allens's highs have been

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:31.080
<v Speaker 2>very high, but the Steelers have a great pass rush

0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:34.600
<v Speaker 2>and that's really helped out a not so talented secondary

0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:39.680
<v Speaker 2>make a lot of plays. So I like you, somehow

0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:42.520
<v Speaker 2>can see myself taking me under on thirty six and

0:52:42.520 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 2>a half, And if I like the under on such

0:52:44.640 --> 0:52:47.399
<v Speaker 2>a low total, I have to love the Bills as

0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:49.160
<v Speaker 2>a teaser candidate getting eight and a half.

0:52:50.719 --> 0:52:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember seeing a total this low, so I'm

0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:55.160
<v Speaker 1>not going to go out there. I haven't been able

0:52:55.160 --> 0:52:56.399
<v Speaker 1>to check yet. I didn't have a lot of time

0:52:56.440 --> 0:52:58.000
<v Speaker 1>today but to check whether or not this is the

0:52:58.000 --> 0:53:00.200
<v Speaker 1>lowest total of the season, because it strikes me that

0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:02.959
<v Speaker 1>it is at thirty six and a half. But either way, yeah,

0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I kind of lean towards the under. I don't really

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 1>know if I'd be able to pull the trigger teaser

0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Bills up two eight and a half. I completely agree.

0:53:09.880 --> 0:53:12.360
<v Speaker 1>It is very difficult to see any scenario where this

0:53:12.480 --> 0:53:15.320
<v Speaker 1>game becomes, you know, a nine point game or anything

0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:18.160
<v Speaker 1>like that. If I'm forced to choose a side right now,

0:53:18.200 --> 0:53:20.440
<v Speaker 1>and it may be one where I won't be forced

0:53:20.440 --> 0:53:22.160
<v Speaker 1>to do it, and I'll just do it because I

0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:24.200
<v Speaker 1>like the side. I kind of like the Bills here.

0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I've been fading the Bills a lot. I kind of

0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:29.760
<v Speaker 1>have been reluctant to buy into them. The game against

0:53:29.760 --> 0:53:33.719
<v Speaker 1>the Ravens, man they were close to tying that thing

0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:38.080
<v Speaker 1>up and pushing it to overtime. I really think that

0:53:38.160 --> 0:53:41.120
<v Speaker 1>in the end, it's something where I think they're gonna

0:53:41.120 --> 0:53:42.920
<v Speaker 1>win this game, and I think they can go in

0:53:42.960 --> 0:53:44.600
<v Speaker 1>there and win this game. I think they're a better

0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:46.960
<v Speaker 1>team than the Steelers. I get you know that the

0:53:46.960 --> 0:53:49.319
<v Speaker 1>Steelers don't have much of a pass offense, so the

0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:51.080
<v Speaker 1>fact that they funnel to the run doesn't really play

0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:52.399
<v Speaker 1>in their favor. But I agree with you. I don't

0:53:52.400 --> 0:53:54.760
<v Speaker 1>fully trust James Connor, even if he comes back anyway,

0:53:54.760 --> 0:53:56.960
<v Speaker 1>if not, it's any Snell. This is not something where

0:53:56.960 --> 0:53:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited about the Steilers. So this may be one

0:53:59.440 --> 0:54:01.160
<v Speaker 1>where I'm just gonna bite the bullet and take the

0:54:01.200 --> 0:54:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Bills getting two and a half. But certainly you make

0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:05.680
<v Speaker 1>a great point with teasing them up, because I cannot

0:54:05.719 --> 0:54:07.600
<v Speaker 1>see the Steelers being able to beat them by that

0:54:07.680 --> 0:54:10.880
<v Speaker 1>much under any plausable scenario. Let's get to our final

0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:14.120
<v Speaker 1>game here, Colts at the Saints, slaying nine and a half.

0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:17.080
<v Speaker 1>That's up from eight which I saw just yesterday, a

0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:19.600
<v Speaker 1>total of forty five and a half. I would not

0:54:19.640 --> 0:54:21.239
<v Speaker 1>want to be the Colts right now. They're banged up

0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:23.319
<v Speaker 1>with no t Y Hilton, who probably won't return for

0:54:23.360 --> 0:54:26.200
<v Speaker 1>this one. They're now down Paris Campbell, there's no Eric Ebron,

0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:28.400
<v Speaker 1>the magic looks to be running out, and now a

0:54:28.440 --> 0:54:33.440
<v Speaker 1>game against the Saints in primetime in New Orleans. Awful loss.

0:54:34.160 --> 0:54:36.400
<v Speaker 1>The Saints are dealing with some injuries to the defense,

0:54:36.480 --> 0:54:39.319
<v Speaker 1>but they're obviously strong. The offense show that it's right there.

0:54:39.440 --> 0:54:40.960
<v Speaker 1>How do you feel here, Saints slaying nine and a

0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:42.960
<v Speaker 1>half total at forty five and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, referencing the banged up defense. Their rankins left the

0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:49.560
<v Speaker 2>game with an ankle injury against the Niners, and Jared

0:54:49.560 --> 0:54:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Cook suffered a concussion as well. How many times do

0:54:55.040 --> 0:54:58.000
<v Speaker 2>we have to see the Saints do this at home

0:54:58.520 --> 0:55:01.959
<v Speaker 2>before it becomes quality that we can assign to them

0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:06.680
<v Speaker 2>with frequency. I think I have to like the Colts

0:55:07.120 --> 0:55:09.080
<v Speaker 2>in this spot. I remember the first week of the

0:55:09.120 --> 0:55:13.840
<v Speaker 2>season they were touchdown favorites against the Texans, nearly lost outright.

0:55:14.120 --> 0:55:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Last year, same spot to open the season, big favorites

0:55:17.880 --> 0:55:20.960
<v Speaker 2>against the Bucks did lose outright.

0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:22.560
<v Speaker 1>The Saints are just not.

0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:25.200
<v Speaker 2>The team that we've been used to seeing over these

0:55:25.239 --> 0:55:29.680
<v Speaker 2>last couple of years. Last week a total anomaly, scoring

0:55:29.719 --> 0:55:32.880
<v Speaker 2>that many points, specifically against a good defense, a defense

0:55:33.400 --> 0:55:37.160
<v Speaker 2>as good as San Francisco's. I don't trust the Saints

0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:42.520
<v Speaker 2>to push the ball downfield, extend leeds. Alvin Kamara is

0:55:42.640 --> 0:55:47.120
<v Speaker 2>somehow playing worse than Latavius Murray, Like every Kamara call

0:55:47.280 --> 0:55:50.040
<v Speaker 2>was a negative outcome for the Saints last week, which

0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:55.319
<v Speaker 2>is just astounding. So yeah, I trust Frank Reich, I

0:55:55.400 --> 0:55:59.360
<v Speaker 2>trust Jacoby Brissetts. I think the Colts can do enough,

0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:02.879
<v Speaker 2>and worst case scenario, I think the back door will

0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:06.560
<v Speaker 2>be open for this offense. Thing nine has to high

0:56:06.680 --> 0:56:07.480
<v Speaker 2>for the Saints team.

0:56:08.239 --> 0:56:11.400
<v Speaker 1>So for me, it really does depend a lot on

0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Rankins and somewhat Uncook as well, because I think their

0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:19.239
<v Speaker 1>run defense is dramatically better when Rankins is in there,

0:56:19.280 --> 0:56:21.440
<v Speaker 1>and if he's not there, then I think the Colts

0:56:21.560 --> 0:56:24.359
<v Speaker 1>are going to be able to effectively run Marlon Mack,

0:56:24.440 --> 0:56:26.520
<v Speaker 1>which is really all they want to do at this point,

0:56:26.560 --> 0:56:30.040
<v Speaker 1>because you know, there's pretty much other than Zach Pascal

0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:33.399
<v Speaker 1>there and you know Jack Doyle, you know Ibron is gone.

0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:36.680
<v Speaker 1>There's nobody for Jacoby Brissett to throw the ball to

0:56:36.800 --> 0:56:38.640
<v Speaker 1>at this point. I don't see them being able to

0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:40.360
<v Speaker 1>put up a lot of points or to keep it

0:56:40.400 --> 0:56:44.000
<v Speaker 1>close so long as Rankins is in there. If he's out, yeah,

0:56:44.000 --> 0:56:45.759
<v Speaker 1>this is a game I'm probably gonna stay away from.

0:56:45.800 --> 0:56:47.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm not back in the Colts. The Saints are gonna

0:56:47.400 --> 0:56:49.640
<v Speaker 1>be angry. Man. They are gonna come out there and

0:56:49.840 --> 0:56:52.560
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be a Kamara game where he's gonna go nuts.

0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:55.160
<v Speaker 1>There just has to be. He hasn't really been playing

0:56:55.200 --> 0:56:56.640
<v Speaker 1>all that bad. A lot of it has been the

0:56:56.719 --> 0:56:58.840
<v Speaker 1>lack of touchdowns. He played terribly this last game against

0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:00.640
<v Speaker 1>the forty nine ers, But I do think at some

0:57:00.719 --> 0:57:03.640
<v Speaker 1>point he's gonna go boom. I think they're angry. I

0:57:03.640 --> 0:57:05.960
<v Speaker 1>think they need a win. I just you know, depending

0:57:05.960 --> 0:57:07.920
<v Speaker 1>on the injury. It's a lot of points. But if

0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Sheldon Ringkins plays, I think I'd probably take the Saints

0:57:11.040 --> 0:57:12.919
<v Speaker 1>so long as we're under ten. I think the Colts

0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:14.520
<v Speaker 1>are gonna be the sharper side. I think they're gonna

0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:17.000
<v Speaker 1>get the money. But for me, I'm okay laying the

0:57:17.000 --> 0:57:18.520
<v Speaker 1>points because I do think this is gonna be a

0:57:18.520 --> 0:57:20.520
<v Speaker 1>game where the Saints are gonna be angry and they're

0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:22.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna take on the Colts. That's gonna do it. For

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<v Speaker 1>today's show, Rich, it was really great having you back on.

0:57:25.280 --> 0:57:27.040
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