1
00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,160
Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody. Welcome back to the Betting Pros NFL podcast,

2
00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,960
Speaker 1: brought to you by bet MGM. I am your host,

3
00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:17,880
Speaker 1: Dan Harris and you can find me on Twitter at

4
00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,600
Speaker 1: Dan Harris eighty. It is time for our early look

5
00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,800
Speaker 1: at next week's lines. With me to break it all down,

6
00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,120
Speaker 1: is our good friend Rich Ryan, host of the grid

7
00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,440
Speaker 1: Iron Gamble podcast. You can find Rich on Twitter at

8
00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,280
Speaker 1: Rich t Ryan. Rich. Thank you for joining us again.

9
00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:31,800
Speaker 1: How are you.

10
00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,040
Speaker 2: I'm great. We unfortunately are coming off of a one

11
00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,960
Speaker 2: and four week in the Super Contest after they dangled

12
00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,159
Speaker 2: a carrot in front of us and let us go

13
00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,640
Speaker 2: five and zero in week thirteen. So just when you

14
00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,920
Speaker 2: think you're going to peak and there's light at the

15
00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,040
Speaker 2: end of the tunnel, the betting gods punch you right

16
00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:52,560
Speaker 2: in the face.

17
00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,440
Speaker 1: I don't want you to be worried, because I went

18
00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,760
Speaker 1: four and one in the Super Contest this week, so

19
00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm just riding high. I mean that's coming off of

20
00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,240
Speaker 1: three and two weeks, so we're probably roughly equal over there.

21
00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, I don't know. I felt like this

22
00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,720
Speaker 1: week's games they were okay. I felt like I had

23
00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,800
Speaker 1: a good feel for it. Other than I don't know

24
00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,480
Speaker 1: why I ever continue to back the Jaguars. It's like

25
00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,560
Speaker 1: I haven't processed yet that they are completely dunzies, and

26
00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,480
Speaker 1: I just keep going like, well, you know the Chargers.

27
00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm not trusting the Chargers. I mean, let's be honest.

28
00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,280
Speaker 1: At this point, I think the Jaguars are gonna get

29
00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,039
Speaker 1: fired up with Minshew and that didn't work out.

30
00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Mania crash and we two had the Jags

31
00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,679
Speaker 2: as one of our four losers. So right there with you.

32
00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,680
Speaker 1: Well, we'll talk about the line that's coming up for

33
00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,640
Speaker 1: Week fifteen and whatever it is, I will not be

34
00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,880
Speaker 1: taking the Jaguars. But in the end, Rich and I

35
00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,160
Speaker 1: are going to go through each game on the Week

36
00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,880
Speaker 1: fifteen slate. Before we do, though, it is time to

37
00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,840
Speaker 1: announce the winner of our Odell Beckham Junior Signed Helmet giveaway.

38
00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,560
Speaker 1: The winner is Clay from Dallas, Texas. Congratulations Clay, your

39
00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,200
Speaker 1: helmet is on its way now. Clay actually put in

40
00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,960
Speaker 1: an entry for the Christian McCaffrey helmet. But as I

41
00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,000
Speaker 1: have told you, an entry into any contest gets you

42
00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,960
Speaker 1: automatically entered into all future contests, which means if you

43
00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,800
Speaker 1: have already entered our contest. You're automatically entered in for

44
00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,440
Speaker 1: this month's giveaway, which is a signed Michael Thomas Saints helmet. Now,

45
00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,800
Speaker 1: if you haven't entered, why don't you like free things?

46
00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,799
Speaker 1: Clay from Texas likes free things. To enter, just leave

47
00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,880
Speaker 1: a review for the show on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher.

48
00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,239
Speaker 1: Send a screenshot of that review to contest at Bettingpros

49
00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,880
Speaker 1: dot com. And all of our helmet giveaways come from

50
00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,160
Speaker 1: Pristine Auction, where they offer a ton of great memorabilia

51
00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,480
Speaker 1: with thousands of auctions every single day. When you go there,

52
00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,080
Speaker 1: use our promo code Betting Pros and win a free

53
00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,359
Speaker 1: five dollars voucher instantly. That's Pristine Auction dot Com, pri

54
00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,919
Speaker 1: I S t I n E Auction dot com. All right,

55
00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,040
Speaker 1: As I said, Rich and I are going to go

56
00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,359
Speaker 1: through every game on the week fifteenth slate, and we're

57
00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,920
Speaker 1: going to be using the consensus odds over at Bettingpros

58
00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,840
Speaker 1: dot com. That's basically the aggregate odds that you're going

59
00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,079
Speaker 1: to find available in the marketplace as of right now

60
00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,840
Speaker 1: when we record this on Monday night. All right, Rich,

61
00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,120
Speaker 1: let's dive right in here with the Thursday night game.

62
00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,920
Speaker 1: Our Jets taking on the Ravens in balld More raven

63
00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,800
Speaker 1: tiror Lang fourteen and a half with a total of

64
00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,160
Speaker 1: forty five. So look, this is gonna be ugly. I mean,

65
00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,120
Speaker 1: the Jets eke out the win against the Dolphins, but

66
00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,320
Speaker 1: they're banged up all over the place. Does sound like

67
00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,200
Speaker 1: Leveon Bell is going to play the Ravens. Meanwhile, they

68
00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,519
Speaker 1: continue to roll with their big win over the Bills.

69
00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,480
Speaker 1: The defense is playing extremely well. Lamar Jackson is essentially unstoppable.

70
00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,480
Speaker 1: So it is going to be gross. But is it

71
00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,240
Speaker 1: going to be fourteen and a half points gross or what?

72
00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,280
Speaker 2: A lot of injuries here that we're gonna have to

73
00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,360
Speaker 2: stay tuned to, which makes it even worse for the

74
00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,960
Speaker 2: short week heading into Thursday night football. Baltimore has fewer,

75
00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:41,960
Speaker 2: but definitely two key injuries on offense. Ronnie Staley suffered

76
00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:46,440
Speaker 2: a concussion didn't practice today, and then at the tight

77
00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,040
Speaker 2: end position, Mark Andrews left with the knee injury on Sunday.

78
00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,360
Speaker 2: He did not practice today. That is Monday as well.

79
00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,160
Speaker 2: For the Jets, we know Jamal Adams and Leveon Bell

80
00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,160
Speaker 2: missed on Sunday, so there are two players you need

81
00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,800
Speaker 2: to keep your eye on and Ryan Griffin, Blao Powell,

82
00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,000
Speaker 2: and Quinn Williams all left that game. So a bit

83
00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,880
Speaker 2: of an injury ward on both sides of the ball,

84
00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,440
Speaker 2: And to me, the biggest of those injuries is Jamal Adams.

85
00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,240
Speaker 2: I was very intrigued about this matchup coming into this

86
00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,760
Speaker 2: for the last few weeks. I was waiting to see

87
00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,520
Speaker 2: Jamal versus Lamar stick thirty three in the box and

88
00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,240
Speaker 2: maybe he can contain this electric quarterback and that read

89
00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,880
Speaker 2: option offense. Without Jamal, I don't know how the Jets

90
00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:35,239
Speaker 2: get stops in this game. Everyone piling on Baltimore seventy

91
00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,880
Speaker 2: percent of both the bets and the money, and if

92
00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,920
Speaker 2: thirty three is not on the field for the Jets,

93
00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,960
Speaker 2: I kind of lean that way. As many points as

94
00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,159
Speaker 2: that is short week, Ravens banged up that for a

95
00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,880
Speaker 2: couple tough games, But I just how do the Jets

96
00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,880
Speaker 2: get stops against this offense if their defense isn't healthy.

97
00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not going to be able to. I don't

98
00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,360
Speaker 1: know whether or not I can really take the Ravens

99
00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,680
Speaker 1: laying more than two touchdowns. I get it. I'm not

100
00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,320
Speaker 1: gonna argue with it. I couldn't take the Jets at

101
00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,040
Speaker 1: this point. It's a short week, so I don't think

102
00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,120
Speaker 1: it's really gonna move at this point. And as you said,

103
00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,080
Speaker 1: the vast majority of the money is going to come

104
00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,880
Speaker 1: in down the raven. Certainly the public is gonna like them.

105
00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree, And it's hard to see the

106
00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,560
Speaker 1: Jets doing all that much on offense. I mean, with

107
00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,600
Speaker 1: their offensive line being as terrible as it is. Darnold

108
00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,679
Speaker 1: needs time to throw to be able to get into

109
00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,640
Speaker 1: sort of a mode. With the injuries, I don't think

110
00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,400
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews is gonna be able to make it back.

111
00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,840
Speaker 1: It sounds very minor whatever it is, you know, his

112
00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,520
Speaker 1: his contusion above his knee or whatever it is. But

113
00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,680
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna They're gonna force him on

114
00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,799
Speaker 1: this short turnaround, considering it's the Jets. But look, Hayden

115
00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,080
Speaker 1: Hurst can can easily step up, you know, as he

116
00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,000
Speaker 1: did this past Sunday. So for me, if you like

117
00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,279
Speaker 1: this game, this is probably where it's gonna end up.

118
00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere near it. I completely get it.

119
00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,520
Speaker 1: But I cannot take a team, any team against a Jets.

120
00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,679
Speaker 1: That Jets are a borderline competent team. I really can't

121
00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,520
Speaker 1: take them a team giving them more than two touchdowns

122
00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,520
Speaker 1: at the same time you bring up a good point,

123
00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,039
Speaker 1: Adam's probably not gonna play. It's hard to see them

124
00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,800
Speaker 1: keeping it at all close here, So for me, it's

125
00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,840
Speaker 1: a complete stay away. But I think fourteen and a

126
00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,200
Speaker 1: half forty five with only a couple days before the

127
00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,840
Speaker 1: line moves, I think that's probably where it's gonna end up,

128
00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,440
Speaker 1: whichever side you like.

129
00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,480
Speaker 2: On to just one more sorry, real quick. The Ravens

130
00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,160
Speaker 2: lead the league in blitz percentage as well. I saw

131
00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:25,080
Speaker 2: stat today Earl Thomas has blitzed or filled like a

132
00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,840
Speaker 2: run gap more frequently this season than he had his

133
00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,640
Speaker 2: entire Seahawks career. And we saw on that Monday night

134
00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,840
Speaker 2: specifically where Darnold was seeing ghosts. That's what he struggled

135
00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,400
Speaker 2: with the most is pressure. So if they bring all

136
00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:45,719
Speaker 2: that pressure and they've got Humphrey and Peters and Jimmy

137
00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,640
Speaker 2: Smith cooking outside, I don't know how the Jets moved

138
00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,040
Speaker 2: the ball either, So this one might just be a

139
00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,200
Speaker 2: nightmare scenario forgetting.

140
00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna be ugly. There's gonna have to be like

141
00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,760
Speaker 1: a crazy special teamers or a fumble. Let's run back

142
00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,720
Speaker 1: for a touchdown or something like that to keep the

143
00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,920
Speaker 1: Jets in it, but still more than two touchdowns. I

144
00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,520
Speaker 1: can't get in on it. I'm staying away either side.

145
00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,760
Speaker 1: Let's move on to the Broncos. At the Chiefs here,

146
00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,920
Speaker 1: this is down a bit. It opened or the look

147
00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,560
Speaker 1: headline was twelve. From what I'm seeing, it's currently at

148
00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,680
Speaker 1: Chiefs laying ten and a half. And the total has

149
00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,480
Speaker 1: dropped as well, from forty seven to forty five and

150
00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,600
Speaker 1: a half. A lot of that is probably the fact

151
00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,200
Speaker 1: that Patrick Mahomes is dealing with this hand injury now.

152
00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,320
Speaker 1: X rays were negative and he Reid said he should play,

153
00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,560
Speaker 1: so I think you can probably expect him out there.

154
00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,680
Speaker 1: Although they're in this little bit of a weird position,

155
00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,880
Speaker 1: right they have no chance really to get one of

156
00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,880
Speaker 1: the buys almost certainly given their record, maybe I guess,

157
00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,080
Speaker 1: but a pretty low chance to get it. They've got

158
00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,120
Speaker 1: their division sewn up, so it's sort of like, do

159
00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,200
Speaker 1: you really want to risk Mahomes, you know, out there

160
00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,880
Speaker 1: if things are getting bang around, he'll play. But you know,

161
00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,120
Speaker 1: I think that's really the reason that you're seeing the

162
00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,600
Speaker 1: spread and the total drop down. They do come off

163
00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,560
Speaker 1: the big win, of course against the Patriots. Damian Williams

164
00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,800
Speaker 1: might be back here. If not, I don't know who's

165
00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,680
Speaker 1: going to be running the ball for the Chiefs. They

166
00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,400
Speaker 1: don't like to give the Sean McCoy all that many

167
00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,800
Speaker 1: carries over're all Spencer ware saw five carries. It's just

168
00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,000
Speaker 1: kind of a mess back there. All the Broncos. They

169
00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,360
Speaker 1: come up with a huge win over the Texans. They're

170
00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,720
Speaker 1: not nearly as bad as their record indicates, but they're

171
00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,160
Speaker 1: a little bit jeckyle and high. They've been on a

172
00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,520
Speaker 1: great cover streak. I believe it's seven of their last

173
00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,600
Speaker 1: nine games, so big spread here, Chiefs at home ten

174
00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,520
Speaker 1: and a half, with the total forty five and a half.

175
00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:25,280
Speaker 2: Both teams stock soaring right now. Broncos were plus nine

176
00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,680
Speaker 2: win out rights, they've won two in a row with

177
00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:32,040
Speaker 2: their new shiny rookie quarterback, and then Patrick Mahomes and

178
00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,440
Speaker 2: company go into Foxborough and beat them for what I

179
00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,640
Speaker 2: think was their first loss at home in twenty two games.

180
00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,839
Speaker 2: So you're not really getting much value with either team here.

181
00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,959
Speaker 2: It is interesting that you did bring up that twelve

182
00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,719
Speaker 2: and a half look ahead. Now down to ten and

183
00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,000
Speaker 2: a half, I think we might see it continue to

184
00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,520
Speaker 2: go down because the Broncos are getting both the majority

185
00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,160
Speaker 2: of the tickets and the money. So if you do

186
00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,280
Speaker 2: like the Broncos, you probably should grab them as soon

187
00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,080
Speaker 2: as possible if you can get the hook. But it

188
00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,840
Speaker 2: seems like all the val, the value value, excuse me,

189
00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,440
Speaker 2: is being sucked out of this line if you like

190
00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,360
Speaker 2: Denver overall, I think it's a very fair line, and

191
00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,640
Speaker 2: that is an interesting point you bring up. I didn't

192
00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,680
Speaker 2: think about the Chiefs and their positioning within both the

193
00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,360
Speaker 2: division and the conference. And it's not like Matt Moor's

194
00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,680
Speaker 2: looked poor under center credit to Eddie Andy Reid and

195
00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,240
Speaker 2: his offense. So this is just a very fair line

196
00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,200
Speaker 2: now that it's moved off that twelve and a half

197
00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,199
Speaker 2: look ahead, and I'm not really interested in buying either

198
00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,320
Speaker 2: team off of really big wins last week.

199
00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, neither am. I I think at ten and a

200
00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,080
Speaker 1: half the value is still with the Broncos, So I

201
00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,000
Speaker 1: still think, sort of as you mentioned, if you do

202
00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,600
Speaker 1: want them, it's probably a time you get in on

203
00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,640
Speaker 1: them before it drops down to ten, which you know,

204
00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,719
Speaker 1: I think it might again. I expect Mahomes to play.

205
00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,000
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to suggest that he's going to get

206
00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,559
Speaker 1: shut down. But I do think that they're gonna be

207
00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,520
Speaker 1: pretty careful with them because I think they're in a

208
00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,160
Speaker 1: kind of unique position here where there's three games left

209
00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,880
Speaker 1: and their position is probably pretty set at this point.

210
00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,240
Speaker 1: I mean, they could get a bye. I don't want to.

211
00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to poo pooh, but you know, with

212
00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,040
Speaker 1: the Pats, you know, playing the Bengals and the Ravens

213
00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,880
Speaker 1: playing the Jets, it just seems unlikely that they're going

214
00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,640
Speaker 1: to go in that direction, so they'll probably be careful

215
00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,040
Speaker 1: with Mahomes. Doesn't mean he's gonna sit, but for me,

216
00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,400
Speaker 1: it's just something where he's a little banged up. It's

217
00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,320
Speaker 1: not something I really want to go anywhere. If I

218
00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,679
Speaker 1: have to choose something right now. I don't really care

219
00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,160
Speaker 1: about the total, but I would lean the Broncos at

220
00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,640
Speaker 1: ten and a half. Once it gets to ten or

221
00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,960
Speaker 1: even single digits, I just kind of want to stay away,

222
00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,480
Speaker 1: moving on Bucks at the Lions, the Bucks laying for

223
00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,960
Speaker 1: the total at forty seven and a half. We have

224
00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,040
Speaker 1: some weirdness in this game. My friend Mike Evans almost

225
00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,680
Speaker 1: certainly out after hurting his hamstring. Jameisston comes off a

226
00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,000
Speaker 1: huge game, but he has a small fracture in his thumb.

227
00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,040
Speaker 1: He was getting a second opinion today. I have not

228
00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,200
Speaker 1: seen it. The early word sounded like he wouldn't miss

229
00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,640
Speaker 1: any time. Of course, he got taken out briefly right

230
00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,840
Speaker 1: around halftime to get that looked at, and he played

231
00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,160
Speaker 1: great after that for the most part. So looks he

232
00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,079
Speaker 1: should be able to play. But who knows. And of

233
00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,199
Speaker 1: course you're in that position where he takes a bad

234
00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,680
Speaker 1: hit or something like that on his thumb, who knows

235
00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,080
Speaker 1: what happens to Meanwhile, the Lions are the Lions. David

236
00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,640
Speaker 1: Blow doesn't do all that much, the defense doesn't do

237
00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,199
Speaker 1: all that much. Nobody does all that much ever, but

238
00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,280
Speaker 1: they kind of hang around for the most part in games.

239
00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,000
Speaker 1: How do you feel here about the Bucks playing four

240
00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,880
Speaker 1: in the total at forty seven and a half.

241
00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that Winston injury reminiscent of the Browns the previous week.

242
00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,840
Speaker 2: Baker hits his thumb before halftime, gets removed, and then

243
00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:34,000
Speaker 2: comes back at the start of the third quarter. Buck's

244
00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,200
Speaker 2: coming off three straight wins a somewhat good Jamis game.

245
00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,760
Speaker 2: I guess we could just throw out interceptions. They're just

246
00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:41,440
Speaker 2: to be expected.

247
00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,000
Speaker 1: You don't understand, right, every Jamis game is that's a

248
00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,800
Speaker 1: minimum of three turnovers. So the fact that he just

249
00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,600
Speaker 1: put up the stats, you're right, you just throw out

250
00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,520
Speaker 1: all those interceptions.

251
00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:54,960
Speaker 2: Counting stats legend Jameis Winston. I think he's a favorite

252
00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,280
Speaker 2: now to lead the league in yards, touchdowns, end interceptions,

253
00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:03,080
Speaker 2: which is pretty remarkable. Well, yeah, I am never buying

254
00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,400
Speaker 2: the Bucks off of three straight wins as road favorites

255
00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,920
Speaker 2: in two thousand and nineteen. I know the Lions are bad.

256
00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,680
Speaker 2: I know something blow or blow is horrific, but I

257
00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,240
Speaker 2: just don't have it in my fiber to click the

258
00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,640
Speaker 2: Buccaneers in the spot. So I'm going to close my eyes,

259
00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,160
Speaker 2: pinch my nose, and probably take the four in the

260
00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:24,920
Speaker 2: spot with Detroit.

261
00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate to do this because it's the third

262
00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,120
Speaker 1: straight game, but I'm avoiding this game. Super content is

263
00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,280
Speaker 1: going to be tough, man, because we've got just, you know,

264
00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,199
Speaker 1: all these lines where I'm like, Nope, don't want any

265
00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,360
Speaker 1: piece of that. It's very difficult here. Ordinarily, I honestly

266
00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,000
Speaker 1: I would lean the Bucks because I think they're playing

267
00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,839
Speaker 1: better overall. I think their horrific secondary has been a

268
00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,160
Speaker 1: little bit better. I think their offense is very difficult

269
00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,440
Speaker 1: to stop, and it's really tough with the Lions at

270
00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,240
Speaker 1: this point. I mean, what do you really have to

271
00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,199
Speaker 1: go forward to? Blow is not a guy who should

272
00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,560
Speaker 1: be quarterbacking in the NFL regularly anyway. So on a

273
00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,040
Speaker 1: normal day, I would take the Bucks at four. But

274
00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,360
Speaker 1: what's interesting the Evans injury, You've got the Winston sort

275
00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,559
Speaker 1: of you know, uncertainty, and yet the line has not moved.

276
00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,520
Speaker 1: It has stuck at minus four. So with all of that,

277
00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,160
Speaker 1: it's just not something I really want to go there,

278
00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,160
Speaker 1: and I don't want to back the Bucks on a

279
00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,400
Speaker 1: good day, So you know, for me, kind of in

280
00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,600
Speaker 1: that same vein, it's a stay away for me. But

281
00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,360
Speaker 1: if you know, I won't even say where i'd go

282
00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,439
Speaker 1: if I had to choose a side, because I don't

283
00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,040
Speaker 1: want to have to choose a side. If anything, I

284
00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,360
Speaker 1: kind of like the over on the total forty seven

285
00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:25,599
Speaker 1: and a half. I think the Lines are going to

286
00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,960
Speaker 1: be able to put up points, you know, considering the

287
00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,480
Speaker 1: Bucks secondary, although it is getting better, they're still not

288
00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,160
Speaker 1: going to be able to completely contain Kenny Galladay. So

289
00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,960
Speaker 1: I do see the Lines being able to put up

290
00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,240
Speaker 1: some points here and you know, the Bucks, who basically

291
00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,360
Speaker 1: go over on every single game, are probably going to

292
00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,080
Speaker 1: get there. So of anything, I lean over on the

293
00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,760
Speaker 1: total of forty seven and a half where it is

294
00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,440
Speaker 1: right now, but for the spread, I'm not really going

295
00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,920
Speaker 1: near it. Let's move on to the Texans at the Titans.

296
00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,440
Speaker 1: This is a good one. Titans here are laying two

297
00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,160
Speaker 1: and a half at home with a total of fifty

298
00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,400
Speaker 1: up from forty eight and a half. This is really

299
00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,719
Speaker 1: for the South. It appears the Texans they're all over

300
00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,040
Speaker 1: the place. They beat the Patriots in convincing fashion, then

301
00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,040
Speaker 1: they get blown out by the Broncos. Their pass defense

302
00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,440
Speaker 1: had played much better of late, but they struggled on Sunday.

303
00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,560
Speaker 1: Willfuller again misses the game with an injury, so his

304
00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,839
Speaker 1: status is certainly something to monitor. Meanwhile, the Titans come

305
00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,760
Speaker 1: off a huge win against the Raiders. This is what

306
00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,080
Speaker 1: I talked about last week. Rich. I did not understand

307
00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,200
Speaker 1: the Titans laying a field goal to the Raiders. I

308
00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,840
Speaker 1: understand that they had all that they were going cross country,

309
00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,280
Speaker 1: and they were close on a couple of games where

310
00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,880
Speaker 1: obviously they pulled out a few games that they easily

311
00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,160
Speaker 1: could have lost, like against the Colts and against the

312
00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,520
Speaker 1: Chiefs and against the Bucks. But Ryan tannel is playing extremely,

313
00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,880
Speaker 1: extremely well. Derrick Henry is a scary man when it

314
00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,040
Speaker 1: starts getting cold. He is battling through that hamstring injury,

315
00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,200
Speaker 1: but he looked like he was okay. The defense continues

316
00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,400
Speaker 1: to play well overall. So you got a divisional game here,

317
00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,320
Speaker 1: both team's really desperate for the win. Titans now laying

318
00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:48,720
Speaker 1: under a field goal two and a half with the

319
00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:49,880
Speaker 1: high total of fifty.

320
00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this was a one and a half look ahead.

321
00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,480
Speaker 2: So moving in the direction of the Titans. They're getting

322
00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,440
Speaker 2: credits with this massive winning streak and the performances that

323
00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:05,120
Speaker 2: Ryan Tannehill is putting together. Texans last week, massively inflated

324
00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,960
Speaker 2: line they got, I think it moved from seven and

325
00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,480
Speaker 2: a half to nine thanks to their victory against the Patriots,

326
00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,640
Speaker 2: and then they go out and lay an absolute stinker

327
00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,720
Speaker 2: that we referenced earlier with the Broncos coming into town.

328
00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,720
Speaker 2: I think this line is fair, and if I had

329
00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:27,160
Speaker 2: to choose, I think I might take Houston just because

330
00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:35,120
Speaker 2: I need to sell this Titans touchdown offensive efficiency. Ryan

331
00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,640
Speaker 2: Tannehill looking like Joe Montana because my eyes have seen

332
00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,280
Speaker 2: Ryan Tannehill play too poorly in the past for me

333
00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,840
Speaker 2: to buy these recent performances as something that are indicative

334
00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,160
Speaker 2: going forward. I will say my favorite aspect of this

335
00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,200
Speaker 2: game is the total. I like playing the under fifty

336
00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,400
Speaker 2: in this game. I think because the stakes are so high,

337
00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,680
Speaker 2: Like you said for the South, I think this will

338
00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,360
Speaker 2: be a little more of a grind your game than

339
00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,880
Speaker 2: most people expect. And then yeah, the Tannehill regression is

340
00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,480
Speaker 2: a real thing, and the Titans defense is excellent, so

341
00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,680
Speaker 2: I think the Texans might be held in check as well.

342
00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,640
Speaker 2: So I think, really close game, really fair line. But

343
00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,560
Speaker 2: give me the under on fifty in this game. I

344
00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,600
Speaker 2: think it'll be a little more low scoring than people think.

345
00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I honestly I agree with you on the total

346
00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,520
Speaker 1: for sure. I think this is you know, you got

347
00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,040
Speaker 1: a divisional game. Actually oddly enough, I mean we're in

348
00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,560
Speaker 1: week fifteen. These teams haven't played yet. I mean they're

349
00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,760
Speaker 1: playing again in week seventeen, which is a little weird,

350
00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,160
Speaker 1: but so you know, when you have the second game

351
00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,800
Speaker 1: with the divisional game, I feel like, well, the teams

352
00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,520
Speaker 1: really know what they're about. They don't have that here.

353
00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,760
Speaker 1: But either way, I agree with you and the Texans

354
00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,640
Speaker 1: defense overall. I mean, I know they had a bad

355
00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,800
Speaker 1: game against the Broncos, but overall they've been playing a

356
00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,360
Speaker 1: little bit better even without JJ Watt, So I do

357
00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,320
Speaker 1: find this to be closer to a defensive struggle. So

358
00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,000
Speaker 1: I also like the under fifty. I admit though, and

359
00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,120
Speaker 1: my bosses tease me because they know now I'm like

360
00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,240
Speaker 1: all in on the Titans suddenly. But if I had

361
00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,160
Speaker 1: to lean one way or another, if you're under a

362
00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,400
Speaker 1: field goal, I like the Titans. I'm kind of buying

363
00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,480
Speaker 1: Ryan Dan right now. I mean, I don't know whether

364
00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,480
Speaker 1: or not it was Miami, but the thing is, I've

365
00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,400
Speaker 1: watched him really closely. He is playing really, really well.

366
00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,600
Speaker 1: This isn't fluky right now. You know, not only is

367
00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,240
Speaker 1: he doing it with his legs, but he's making good reads.

368
00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,800
Speaker 1: He's incredibly accurate at the moment. I get he has

369
00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,960
Speaker 1: a whole career of mediocrity behind him, but with the

370
00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,199
Speaker 1: way he's playing right now, I'm really am backing it.

371
00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,040
Speaker 1: And more so than him, it's really Henry Man. He

372
00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,960
Speaker 1: did this last year where he got going at the

373
00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,720
Speaker 1: end of the year and you just don't want to

374
00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,040
Speaker 1: tackle him once it gets a little cold. Who wants

375
00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,800
Speaker 1: to tackle that guy? At this point, he's playing great,

376
00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,040
Speaker 1: so as long as he's healthy, I would lean slightly

377
00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,760
Speaker 1: towards the Titans. I'm not sure if I'm willing to

378
00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,119
Speaker 1: bet it, but under the key number of three, I

379
00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,440
Speaker 1: lean that way. But the big thing here I agree

380
00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,760
Speaker 1: with you is the total at fifty and again it's

381
00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,760
Speaker 1: trended up. I like it now that you can get

382
00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,920
Speaker 1: in and certainly get some value there. Moving on here

383
00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,399
Speaker 1: to the Dolphins at the Giants. Giants here are currently

384
00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,600
Speaker 1: laying a field goal with a total of forty seven

385
00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,000
Speaker 1: and a half. We are recording this in the middle

386
00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,560
Speaker 1: of the Giants Eagles game. It's approaching halftime, so we

387
00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,480
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what happens here, but it's going to

388
00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,000
Speaker 1: be Eli Manning under center again next week. Daniel Jones

389
00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,160
Speaker 1: has basically been giving a two to four week timetable,

390
00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,760
Speaker 1: so he's probably gonna miss this game. Meanwhile, the Dolphins

391
00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,199
Speaker 1: continue to play hard, but they lose Devonte Parker to

392
00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,720
Speaker 1: a concussion, Albert Wilson gets injured. Two really bad teams.

393
00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,119
Speaker 1: This line is just basically I think bookmakers being like,

394
00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,159
Speaker 1: I don't know, Goad you know, get somebody give us

395
00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,920
Speaker 1: something on this. So what are you giving us? A

396
00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,560
Speaker 1: Giants slaying a field goal total at forty seven and

397
00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:25,560
Speaker 1: a half, I think.

398
00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,800
Speaker 2: Back to back trips to the Meadowlands and MetLife Stadium

399
00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,800
Speaker 2: is one of the worst punishments that you can dole

400
00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:37,480
Speaker 2: out to this historically bad Dolphins team. Yeah, on the surface,

401
00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,720
Speaker 2: I want to lay the points with the Giants, just

402
00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,159
Speaker 2: because the Dolphins truly have reverted to the form that

403
00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,560
Speaker 2: they showed in the first couple of weeks of the season.

404
00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,680
Speaker 2: But I'm not really in love with other side on

405
00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,320
Speaker 2: the spread. So again, I'm going to revert to the

406
00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,120
Speaker 2: total and I'm going to go to the other side

407
00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,520
Speaker 2: and maybe the fish style here. And that's the over

408
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,760
Speaker 2: on forty seven and a half. This game is defense

409
00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,080
Speaker 2: sold separately and specifically. The Dolphins have been playing these

410
00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:13,200
Speaker 2: massively high totals the last couple of weeks fifty seven,

411
00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,040
Speaker 2: sixty five, sixty eight, and then last week against our

412
00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,920
Speaker 2: beloved Jets, the total was forty three, but the Dolphins

413
00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,359
Speaker 2: kicked seven field goals, So even if they turned half

414
00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,680
Speaker 2: of those drives or three out of seven into touchdown drives,

415
00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,960
Speaker 2: this shoots well over forty seven and a half. So

416
00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:36,680
Speaker 2: I think the lack of defense FITs' ability to push

417
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 2: the ball down the field at all costs is intriguing.

418
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 2: The one thing I will say on this is that

419
00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,119
Speaker 2: if neither DeVante Parker nor Albert Wilson go both were

420
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 2: taken out with the concussions on Sunday, I'm less excited

421
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,080
Speaker 2: about this forty seven and a half. But even if

422
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,199
Speaker 2: we get one of those guys, I think this is

423
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:54,720
Speaker 2: shooting over.

424
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,439
Speaker 1: You don't have faith in Alan Hearn, you can get

425
00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,680
Speaker 1: some stuff then I actually, I'll be honest. I maybe

426
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,400
Speaker 1: it's partly because you never know his concussions. You don't

427
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,240
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen, But you know, I'm sure they're

428
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,280
Speaker 1: gonna be careful with Parker at this point, he's been great.

429
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 1: I kind of lean the under actually, I mean, I

430
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,920
Speaker 1: get you make good points in this game, but if

431
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,880
Speaker 1: you do have Parker injured, and let's just you know, again,

432
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 1: you're basically putting that as a qualifier. I'm kind of

433
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,400
Speaker 1: not expecting him to play at the moment. And really, look,

434
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 1: I mean this game that I'm watching, you know, the

435
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 1: Eagles certainly have a decent defense and it's in the rain.

436
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,359
Speaker 1: But the Giants with Eli Manning do not strike me

437
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,200
Speaker 1: as a team who's going to be able to move

438
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,640
Speaker 1: the ball and put up significant amount of points even

439
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 1: against the Dolphins defense. So for me, forty seven and

440
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 1: a half, I mean, it's a solid number. I kind

441
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 1: of lean the under at this point, but again, it

442
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 1: a little bit is dependent on whether Parker Albert Wilson whatever,

443
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 1: it's really about Parker. He is the guy who makes

444
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 1: it go. So if Parker plays, I'd probably stay away

445
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 1: from the total overall. But if he doesn't play, I'm

446
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 1: all over the under here. I at forty seven and

447
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 1: a half with the spread, I just no, I have

448
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,880
Speaker 1: no interest in betting on the Giants against the Dolphins

449
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 1: with a three point spread, so I would stay away

450
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 1: from it there. Let's move on to the Seahawks at

451
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 1: the Panthers. Seahawks here are laying six and the total

452
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 1: at forty eight and a half. Panthers just a sinking

453
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 1: ship here. Kyle Allen is going to remain the starter,

454
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 1: but their defense has totally caved in. Seahawks mean want

455
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 1: they get beaten up pretty good by the Rams on

456
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football. They lose for Shod Penny. The over

457
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,640
Speaker 1: under for carries for Chris Carson against this abysmal run

458
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: defense is like twenty eight or something like that. Is

459
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 1: that going to be enough with the Seahawks laying six

460
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 1: in Carolina and a total at forty eight and a half.

461
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, ACL injury for Shod Penny, which is just absolutely

462
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 2: brutal for the kid. They finally got him going after

463
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 2: stubbornly sending Chris Carson for one yard and a cloud

464
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 2: of dust for several weeks this season, and then the

465
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: kid goes out and suffers an ACL injury, which I mean,

466
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 2: it's just brutal.

467
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

468
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 2: The Hawks are one of the few teams in twenty

469
00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 2: nineteen that want to run the ball, establish it, as

470
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 2: the kids say nowadays. And as you noted, the Panthers

471
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 2: are an absolute triage unit up front on the defensive line,

472
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 2: and this is absolutely the way to attack them. So

473
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:17,439
Speaker 2: man six is just so many points. Four was the

474
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 2: look ahead Seahawks go out and look horrific in primetime

475
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: and the line moves in the other direction just because

476
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 2: the Panthers seem to have quit, lose their coach, go

477
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 2: on the road, look completely lethargic. If you think the

478
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers will show any signs of professional pride and

479
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 2: go out and play a football game like normal, then

480
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: I think you have to like the plus six in

481
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 2: this spot. But that is completely uncertain now that they've

482
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: lost their coach and with the effort they gave last

483
00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 2: week against a pretty poor Falcons team. So the sharp

484
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,479
Speaker 2: person inside me is screaming to take the six points,

485
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 2: but you need some real intestinal fortitude in order to

486
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 2: fire that.

487
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the sharp side is probably the Panthers.

488
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: And I don't mind to be square on this one

489
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 1: because I'm all over the Seahawks if you get them

490
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: under a touchdown. Look, I faded the Panthers, you know,

491
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: I've been fading them lately, certainly faded them against the

492
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 1: Falcons this week. They're just done, dude, Like, I get

493
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: you didn't have the fired our coach. You know, let's

494
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: rally around and maybe make that a thing. No, they're done.

495
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: Their defense looks like they have absolutely no interest in

496
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: tackling anyone whatsoever. They're just gonna play out the season.

497
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 1: And you know, the Seahawks coming off that loss, now

498
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: they gotta I mean, they're gonna be hungry. They're obviously

499
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: in the dogfight to you know what. They might be

500
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: the number one seed, they might be the number five seed.

501
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: It's a big difference there. You know they're gonna look

502
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: to get back on track here. Six is a lot

503
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: under a touchdown now. I feel completely fine with it. Honestly,

504
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: if you get up to that key number of seven,

505
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna stay. But if I get six is

506
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: a big number. Don't care if you. I think the

507
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: Panthers are completely done. I think that the books have

508
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 1: not comple fully adjusted to what they are at this point.

509
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 1: So for me, I don't really care about the total.

510
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 1: But at laying six, I'm gonna take that and I'm

511
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: not gonna hesitate really personally. Before we move on, I

512
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 1: want to tell everyone about the sponsor of today's show,

513
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 1: bet MGM. You do not have to run up to

514
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 1: the counter anymore to place a bet. With the bet

515
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: MGM Sports app. You can place a bet right from

516
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 1: your phone. Here's all you need to do. Search for

517
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: the bet MGM Sports app in your app store, download

518
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 1: it and sign up for an account. And when you

519
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: sign up, you're gonna want to use our promo code Harris,

520
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: because when you do, you're going to get a risk

521
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: free five hundred dollars bet. If you lose your first bet,

522
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: bet MGM is going to credit you the amount you

523
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: lost up to five hundred dollars for future wagers. And

524
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 1: these things where you're basically given like guaranteed winning bets

525
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: are kind of a frequent thing with bet mgm. This

526
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 1: past weekend, if you placed a one dollar money line

527
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: bet on the Patriots to beat the Chiefs, then you

528
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 1: won one hundred just because Tom Brady completed a single

529
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 1: pass even though the Patriots lost the game. There are

530
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: a ton of great things on the app, but you

531
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: need to sign up for an account and use our

532
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 1: promo code, Harris. These winnings are paid in free bets.

533
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 1: You must be twenty one years or older, and although

534
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: you can sign up an easily deposit money anywhere, you

535
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: must be in the state of New Jersey to place

536
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: the sports bet, and certain restrictions apply. Visit betmgm dot

537
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: com for the full list of terms and conditions. And

538
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 1: if you've got a gambling problem, called one eight hundred gambler.

539
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to an intriguing divisional gamer

540
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: Bears at the Packers. Packers are currently laying four. This

541
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: has been trending down now for a while, the total

542
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: at forty one. Bears are starting to feel it a

543
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 1: little bit. Mitchell Trubisky has played very well of late.

544
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: The Bears need to win out to have any shot

545
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: at the playoffs. They are down. Rocon Smith here on

546
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: defense is going to miss the rest of the season

547
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: with the torn peck. Meanwhile, the Packers beat the Redskins,

548
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: but they just do not have that killer instinct at

549
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: the moment. The offense works, but it rarely clicks on

550
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: all cylinders. They are beatable on the ground. That's not

551
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: really where the Bears sort of shining. Dave Montgomery is capable,

552
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: but he hasn't really gotten gung. So how do you

553
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: feel here, Bear's visiting the Packers. Packers now laying just

554
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: four with the total of forty one.

555
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at it seven and a half. Yep, and

556
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: now we're down to four. I know Mitchell Trubisky has

557
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: looked good, but and they have the mini by the

558
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: couple extra days arrest, but that is certainly a plummet.

559
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: But just like you said, what is this Packers offense

560
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: averaging eighteen point eight points per game since Halloween. I

561
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: don't know what to make of this squad. You talk,

562
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 2: A lot of people are talking about the Patriots and

563
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: they're trying to give Brady a pass because guys aren't

564
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 2: getting open. But outside of DeVante Adams, the Packers are

565
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 2: having the same issues in guys getting open. And then

566
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: Rogers is kind of doing this thing where kind of

567
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: like Deshaan Watson in clean Pockets, he's just breaking down

568
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 2: and freelancing a little bit, and it's just all a

569
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: bit odd. All of that being said, with this line

570
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: as depressed as it is, I think you have to

571
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 2: like the home team at four. I'm not buying into

572
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 2: this Bear's resurgence. Much of that has to do with

573
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: them playing a Lions team with their third string quarterback

574
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: and then a Cowboys team which cannot compete against teams

575
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: with the pulse it seems, so give me the Packers

576
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 2: at four. Very strange line movement off of seven and

577
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 2: a half being looked at.

578
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: I think if you like the Packers is where you

579
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: gotta get them. I don't think it's going lower than this, because,

580
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: as you said, it has moved a ton coming in,

581
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: so I kind of agree with you. It's more of

582
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: a game where I don't have a great feeling for it.

583
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: But if I had to pick a side, it would

584
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: be the Packers at this point because four is just

585
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: too little for a divisional game for a team playing

586
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: at home. You know, the defense hasn't been quite as strong,

587
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: but it's still there. It's still solid against the pass,

588
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: and I don't think the Bears really have that run

589
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: a bit that's going to be able to take advantage

590
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: of where the Packers real deficiency is on defense. So

591
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: I think this is probably where it starts stops. I

592
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: don't think it's getting down to three or anything like that.

593
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: So if you like the Packers as you do, as

594
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: I kind of do, I think this is a spot

595
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: to get him because I could see this closing back

596
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: closer to five as the sharp guys probably come in

597
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: and realize the value there. Let's move on to the

598
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: Patriots at the Bengals. Patriots here laying eight and a

599
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: half with the total of forty and a half. Can

600
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: you do it? Rich? Can you take the Patriots here?

601
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: They look terrible offensively. Tom Brady has that giant rap

602
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: on his elbow, The defense has not been elite. But

603
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: then there are the Bengals, Joe Mixon, Tyler Boyd. I

604
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: don't really have all that much to say about them.

605
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: I mean, they look a little better with Andy Dalton

606
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: back there, but they're just not a good football team.

607
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: So how do you feel here about the Patriots visiting

608
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: the Bengals eight and a half total of forty and

609
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: a half.

610
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 2: I would have taken them at the ten and a

611
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: half look ahead, and I certainly would have taken them

612
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: at the ten open as well. But people are pounding

613
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: the Bengals down to eight and a half because they're

614
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: realizing that this Patriots offense is not good enough to

615
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: cover these large spreads. I mean, they absolutely dominated a

616
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: team like the Cowboys a couple weeks ago. Right you

617
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: walk away from that game thinking that the Cowboys had

618
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: really no shot and the Patriots couldn't extend never could

619
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: extend the lead, never could get the ball in the

620
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: end zone. And I don't foresee them being able to

621
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: do that for the rest of the season. And the

622
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: one thing that the Patriots want to do on defense

623
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: is they want to funnel you to run the ball,

624
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: and the Bengals want to run the ball. Despite being

625
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: a bad team. Joe Mixon has actually gotten it going

626
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: here these last couple of weeks. Dalton is back and

627
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: he's not the greatest, but he's probably replacement level where

628
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: that's not the type of quarterback player they were getting.

629
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: So I think all the value has unfortunately already been

630
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: sucked out of this line. But even at eight and

631
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: a half, I still shade the home team. The Patriots

632
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: are just not good enough to be laying a number

633
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: that's this large on the road.

634
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: There's got to come a point, man, There's got to

635
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: come a point where they just take all their anger

636
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: from the last couple of games and just let it

637
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: explode on someone. And you know, eight and a half

638
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: I lean the Pats, I really do. I agree that

639
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: they're you know, they're They're not nearly in the same

640
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: class right now as they were at any point over

641
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: the last several years. But the Bengals are just a

642
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: really terrible football team. They really are. They're a little

643
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: bit more competent with Andy Dalton, but I don't foresee

644
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: them being able to move the ball very well. I mean,

645
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: Autun Tate is probably going to miss this game as well,

646
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: So it's really just Tyler Boyd and Joe Mixon. And

647
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, you know what Belichick does, He takes away

648
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: whatever you do best. That's probably going to be mixing,

649
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: even though again they want to funnel the run. As

650
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: you said, they're probably going to focus on taking Mixon away.

651
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals are going to have a tough

652
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: time scoring, and I think the Patriots are gonna be

653
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: able to do enough with their scheme. You know, they

654
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: don't have the playmakers at the moment. It's really Julian

655
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: Edelman that's it. I don't know, maybe Sony Michelle gets

656
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of carries, but I feel like this is

657
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: a spot where the Patriots they have to by the way,

658
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: because the Bills are playing extremely well. As you know

659
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 1: that both teams losses past weekend, but the Bills are

660
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: right on their heels. They cannot take a chance of

661
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: having the Bills catch them. I think they're gonna pull

662
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: out all the stops here. I think they're gonna cover

663
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: it at eight and a half. If it was at

664
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: ten or ten and a half, like you mentioned earlier, Yeah,

665
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: at that point the values with the Bengals, But here,

666
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. Man just got a feeling that this

667
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: is kind of a spot where they're gonna look to

668
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: get right. I don't love it, but if I'm forced

669
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: to take a side, I'll go with the Pats at

670
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: eight and a half. Let's go on to the Eagles

671
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: at the Redskins. Eagles here are laying six and the

672
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: total at forty and a half. Again, the Eagles game

673
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: is going on right now. Al Sean Jeffrey has been

674
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: carted off. I think Lane Johnson left trying to watch

675
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: it out of the corner of my eyes. So they

676
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: are just dropping like flies. They've also played terribly of

677
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 1: late the Redskins. Meanwhile, they keep it close against the Packers.

678
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: They have lost arius guys. They love to run the

679
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: ball all day, and that is the Eagles strength. So

680
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: it really doesn't set up well for the Redskins. But

681
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: how do you feel here about the Eagles laying six

682
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: in Washington with a total of forty and a half.

683
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Eagles one of the few pass funnel defenses

684
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: in the league. Right They want you to run the

685
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: ball because that's how they can stop you. While their

686
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: secondary is just below average. We're seeing Eli Manning look

687
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: like a competent quarterback in twenty nineteen on the road,

688
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 2: which is something that should not be happening. That being said,

689
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: Eagles minus six on the road is just playing stupid.

690
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: In my opinion. They need to be able to in

691
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: order to be minus six on the road in professional football,

692
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: you need to get out to leads and then extend leads.

693
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: That's the only way that you consistently cover these numbers

694
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: on the road in pro football, and the Eagles offense

695
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: has just not been able to do that whatsoever. And

696
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: you can blame it on WinCE, you can blame it

697
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: on this receiving corps which has not been healthy the

698
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: entire year, lack of a running game.

699
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: What have you.

700
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: But the fact of the matter is is that the

701
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: Eagles offense just is flat bad and they're not going

702
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: to be able to cover six consistently enough Washington. Even

703
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: when they're behind, even when they have no chance of winning,

704
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: they just run the life out of the game. Bill

705
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: Callahan just wants to line it up and run the football,

706
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: which doesn't make sense if you want to win a

707
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: football game. But if you're holding a plus six ticket

708
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: and you just want to see that clock take off,

709
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: it is certainly in your favor, So Washington. I talked

710
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: about professional Pride earlier and will the Panther show it?

711
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: I know Washington will show it. They're three to ten,

712
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: but they still go out there. They fight in the trenches,

713
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: they play defense, they run the ball. Not sexy things,

714
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: but very sexy when you're holding a plus six ticket

715
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: at home. So give me the Washington professional football team.

716
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Other than the Seahawks, this one is,

717
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: oddly enough, my favorite one that we've gone through so far.

718
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: I certainly like the Redskins. My guess is that the

719
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: spread is going to drop after, you know, pretty coming

720
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: up soon given all the injuries that the Eagles are

721
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: suffering tonight. So if you like it, I'd lock it in.

722
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: And I also you made a good point with running

723
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: the ball constantly. May not be good for catching up,

724
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 1: but it's good for sort of keeping the game close.

725
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: It also is good for running out the clock and

726
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: keeping a low total. So for me, given both team

727
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: struggles on offenses, forty and a half, it's not particularly high.

728
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: Of course, it's a load total, but I still like

729
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: this game to come in as under, so I'm going

730
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 1: to be locking in both of those bets. Right after

731
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: this podcast, because I feel pretty good about them. But yeah,

732
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: it's a crazy, crazy world. But the Redskins getting six

733
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: from the Eagles is one of my favorite bets that

734
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: we've gone through so far. Let's move on to the

735
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: Browns that the Cardinals. Browns laying three with a total

736
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: of forty eight. The Browns beat the Bengals, but they

737
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: just kind of look like they don't really care about

738
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: life right now. Odell Buckham Junior playing through a sports turnia.

739
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield looks like he forgot the setus alarm and

740
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: he rolled out of bed and barely got to the

741
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: game on time. Meanwhile, the Cardinals have lost several games

742
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 1: in a row. The defense continues to be subpar, Kyler

743
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: Murray having a little bit of trouble getting things going

744
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: against some tough defenses. It'll be a little bit easier

745
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: for him here. So how do you feel about the

746
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: Browns sang three with the total of forty eight.

747
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: What are the Browns doing well? Why do they win

748
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: football games and then have these super strange things happen,

749
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: whether it's Miles Garrett attacking the quarterback with a helmet

750
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: or Baker Mayfield throwing the entire training sta under the bus,

751
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,479
Speaker 2: like these things are happening after wins. Well, what's gonna

752
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 2: happen if this team goes on a losing streak?

753
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: Just to be clear, though you knew, right, everybody knew

754
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: this was a possibility.

755
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: You got that group of.

756
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: Guys together and if they struggled, it was going to

757
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: be a powder keg. So this is it's a dysfunctional,

758
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: dysfunctional atmosphere at the moment.

759
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: What a strange team, and yet I think they're actually

760
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 2: a decent playing this spot. How do the Cardinals get stops?

761
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: They just something Duck Hodges while in there with no juju,

762
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: no connor, and went out and scored points in professional

763
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: football on the road, Like these things should not be happening.

764
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 2: And it's as clown as the Browns act from Monday

765
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: to Saturday. On Sunday, this offense has been clicking, specifically

766
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: with the return of Kareem Hunt and Freddy Kitchens rolling

767
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 2: out this twenty one offense with both backs on the field,

768
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: they've just been fantastic. So I think two and a

769
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: half is a bit two and a half look ahead

770
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,479
Speaker 2: was a bit short. I think it's more respectable where

771
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 2: it is at the full three, but I still think

772
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of value on Cleveland. My favorite

773
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 2: bet is the over on forty eight. Though we all

774
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 2: know Cliff and Kyler that are running at the fastest

775
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 2: pace in the league almost twenty five seconds flat per

776
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,959
Speaker 2: play in games that they are in, They're not going

777
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: downfield as much as I'd like them too. The horizontal

778
00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: raid has been bleeding my eyes out for fourteen weeks now,

779
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: but they actually started to push the ball downfield last week,

780
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: albeit against a great defense, and it ended up in

781
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: three interceptions. But what do you guys have to lose.

782
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 2: Let's just start throwing the rock downfield and let Kyler cook.

783
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: So I like the over on forty eight. In this

784
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: game between the Browns and the Cardinals, I.

785
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: Don't love the spread. I just don't trust either team

786
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: at this point. I could see the Cardinals pulling out

787
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: this victory at this point at home, one of their

788
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: last chances to really get right. But I completely agree

789
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: with you on the total. I think both teams are

790
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: going to go a little crazy here. I think it's

791
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: just going to be a lot of touchdowns. I think

792
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are going to be extremely happy to not

793
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: have to be looking at teams like the Steelers, you know,

794
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: and tough defenses that they've had to face of late.

795
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: So I can see this one really going well over

796
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: The total forty eight, it's a you know, not a

797
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: crazy number. It's a high number, but I think they're

798
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: going to sort past it. So that's really the bad

799
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: I like on this game. The total I'm probably going

800
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: to stay away from. I just do not trust the

801
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: Browns to be able to as you know, as much

802
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: as I see them scoring, I don't really see them

803
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: stopping the Cardinals at this point either. Let's move on

804
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: to the game that only betters are going to be watching,

805
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: the Jaguars at the Raiders. Raiders here are laying six.

806
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: The total is at forty five and a half. It's

807
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: who wants it least in this game, I mean, both

808
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: just look like they've completely quit. The Jaguars continue to

809
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: get absolutely blown out. They're probably down DJ Shark in

810
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: this game. The defense cannot stop anybody. But they're also

811
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: the Raiders who don't have Hunter Renfro anymore. They lost

812
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: Falster Moro, They're playing without any PEP whatsoever. So how

813
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: do you feel here about the Raiders at home lank

814
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: six with the total of forty five and a half.

815
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: Poor Josh Jacobs takes the shot before the game, thinks

816
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: he's gonna go, but he gets ruled out.

817
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: He's got a fractured shoulder. Dude. I mean, I don't

818
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: know how long you're gonna talk. I mean, he may play.

819
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: He was close to playing last week, so he may

820
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: play in this game, but who knows.

821
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: Tough guy. You know, as I sit here complaining about,

822
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: you know, fifty five degree weather here in southern California

823
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: being too cold, this guy has a fractured shoulder and

824
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 2: he's trying to put it play pro football. So good on.

825
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: The rookies had a great campaign. This is just too

826
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: many points, right, Raiders laying six. I know the Jaguars

827
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: were horrific last week. I know Gardner Minshew has those

828
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: blow up games in him. DJ Shark on the injury

829
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: report very concerning. I understand all of these things, but

830
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: I cannot abide by the Raiders being minus six in

831
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: pro football here in twenty nineteen. So another just like

832
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 2: the Lions, close your eyes, pinch your nose, take the points.

833
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I'm not going with the Raiders. I

834
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: promise you that, But I'm not going with the Jaguars.

835
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: There's just no way I can. I can go with

836
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: the total though, because I think both teams are going

837
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: to be able to put up a lot of points

838
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: right now. I mean, if Jacob's plays great, you know,

839
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 1: DeAndre Washington was more than competent at this point. Jalen

840
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: Richard is used to getting in there and catching passes.

841
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: I think the Raiders are going to be able to

842
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: put up points, which again they did against the Titans.

843
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: I think they put up twenty one. They're able to

844
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 1: score some. I think the Jaguars, I mean, their offense

845
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: is not incompetent. You know, they didn't have a great

846
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: game of course against the Chargers, but I think even

847
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: without Chark, who I expect to miss this game, I

848
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: think they're still going to be able to put up points.

849
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: I think Lennon Fournette is going to run wild, and

850
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: obviously running is not great for the over but forty

851
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: five and a half now, I think the defenses are

852
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: going to struggle here to stop anybody. But I get you.

853
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean the Raiders laying six to twenty team right now,

854
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: you'd be like, give me that, but again, I've lost

855
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: much money on the Jaguars of late. They're not a

856
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: team that I can back with any semblance of confidence.

857
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: Let's move on here to the Vikings at the Chargers.

858
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: The Vikings laying two and a half with the total

859
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: of forty four and a half down from forty six.

860
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: I don't think I bet correctly this season for or

861
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 1: against the Chargers, So take this for what you will,

862
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: but to me, this line seems way too little. I

863
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: think the Vikings should be laying more than a field goal.

864
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 1: I get that the Chargers are better than their record.

865
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: They blew out of quitting Jags team, they got Derwin

866
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: James back. The Vikings are a good football team. Yeah,

867
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 1: their pass defense is not so special, and yeah they're

868
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: having to travel all the way out west. But less

869
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: than a field goal, I don't know, man, I think

870
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: that you know whether or not Adam Thielen returns in

871
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: this game. I think their offense is plenty capable of

872
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: moving the ball well. I get that the Chargers run

873
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: defense has been better, especially of late. Melvin Ingram has

874
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: made their defense stronger, But I think the Vikings have

875
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: a really, really solid offense. I think they can score

876
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: on anyone, and I just I don't get this underfield goal.

877
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: So for me, I really like the Vikings saying two

878
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: and a half total forty four and a half I'm

879
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: indifferent about. But how do you feel here with that

880
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: spread in that total?

881
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: Adrian Fields Phillips back in that secondary as well, next

882
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: to Derwin James. I've been on a full fade of

883
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 2: the Chargers this season and it's worked out pretty well

884
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: in spots like that Denver game where they were somehow

885
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 2: road favorites going to Mile High. I thought last week

886
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: was going to be a repeat, as we mentioned at

887
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: the top, both of us one of the Jags in

888
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: the super contest that did not go over well, and

889
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: that's where you kind of get this half point of

890
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 2: love for the Chargers. This was a plus three look aheadline,

891
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: which I agree with you. I think that's more of

892
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: a fair number, but it has ticked down to two

893
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 2: and a half. I am afraid of Kirk Cousins on

894
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: the road outdoors. I'm still not a believer in him.

895
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: I don't like if Deeland's not in this game, but

896
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: my gut is telling me that this Chargers team is

897
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: still well below average Philip Rivers is still, you know,

898
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: seconds away from stepping away from the game, but I

899
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: don't know. It's suspiciously low. They're begging me to take

900
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: the Vikings, so I think I just have to press

901
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: pause on this game and step away.

902
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: I you know, I completely get that. It is the

903
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: line where I looked at it and be like, why

904
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: do you want me to take the Vikings?

905
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: What's wrong?

906
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: What's wrong with taking the Vikings? You want me to

907
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: take the Vikings. I don't understand this is problematic, but

908
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: sometimes I just take the Vikings in that situation. Anyway,

909
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: if I look at it and I run the numbers

910
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: and everything sort of comes out that way, it does.

911
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: Look the Charges are tough team to get a read

912
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: on because they're better than their record. They could have,

913
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: you know, been much better this season. But in the end,

914
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: look the Vikings. They stop the run pretty well. They're

915
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: vulnerable against the past. But if you're going to tell

916
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: me that, you know, Philip Rivers is going to have

917
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: to take this game and win it. I'm willing to

918
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: risk that. And I have a little more faith and

919
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: cousins than you do. I think he's played extremely well

920
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: this year with or without Delan, I think they can

921
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: get going, especially given their run game, which is strong

922
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: all around, and Cook looks like he was fully healthy,

923
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: you know, and if not, Alexander Mansen is perfectly cable

924
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: of stepping in. So I'm going to be on the

925
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: Vikings right now, so long as we're underneath a field goal.

926
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 1: Let's move on to the Falcons at the forty nine ers.

927
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: Forty nine ers currently laying ten and a half with

928
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: a total of forty seven. The Falcons come off the

929
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: drubbing of the Panthers. Their offensive line is getting a

930
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: bit healthier, but they do lose Calvin Ridley, one of

931
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: their best wide receivers. He's out now for the season

932
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: with an abdomen injury. The forty nine ers, meanwhile, they

933
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: win the monstrous game against the Saints. But they're coming

934
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: off too really really tough games here, the first one

935
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: against the Ravens, this one against the Saints. They are

936
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: dealing with a ton of injuries. They're centers down, they're

937
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: down Richard Sherman, they're down d Ford. They're really really

938
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: struggling right now with the injuries. But they're obviously the

939
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: Superor team here. So how do you feel about the

940
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers likening ten and a half at home

941
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: with a total of forty seven.

942
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, despite that Marqui win, this line does not move

943
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: off of the ten and a half look ahead, which

944
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 2: is a bit surprising because I don't think the Falcons

945
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 2: victory last week was earth shattering in any way, shape

946
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: or form. I lean a tiny bit to the Niners

947
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 2: in this spot because I think the Falcons are more

948
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: of the team that we saw the first half of

949
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: the season than the team that we've seen in the

950
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks, where they got a pair of

951
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: wins against a Panthers team that has revealed itself to

952
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: be a bit fraudulent. And there's just something about Matt

953
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: Ryan going across the country outdoors without one of his

954
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: marquee weapons that makes me very weary about taking them

955
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 2: in the spot. That being said, you mentioned the two games.

956
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: The game before that it was a bit of a

957
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: boat racing by the Niners, but that Niners Packers game.

958
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 2: A lot goes went into that game in terms of scheming.

959
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 2: So three exhausting games in a row. So while I

960
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 2: like the Niners, I don't love the Niners. What I

961
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: do love is the under on forty seven. I think

962
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: the Niners are very interested in getting back to their

963
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: style of football, which is not eighty points in a dome.

964
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: It is lining up and running the football in a

965
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: lot of different ways, getting the ball to Brada Yushchek

966
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 2: Mos dirt guys on jet sweeps, and just dominating at

967
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 2: the line of skirmide. So I like the under on

968
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: forty seven. I think the Niners go out and win

969
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: this one pretty handily. So I do shade that ten

970
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: and a half, but I feel like they might run

971
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: the life out of this game and kind of just

972
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: take advantage of a subpar Falcons Seafens.

973
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good call. I don't really love either

974
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: of these numbers. I honestly would have leaned towards the

975
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: Falcons with Ridley there. It's a wide receiver. It doesn't

976
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: really affect the number, you know, significantly, but Ridley is

977
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: a fantastic football player, and I think without him being

978
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 1: there as that second option. I know, Austin Hooper's back,

979
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: DeVonta Freeman's back, but without Ridley being there for that

980
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: second option, even though the Niners are down Richard Terman,

981
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be able to try to take

982
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: Julio Jones out of this game, and that's going to

983
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: really make the Falcons struggle. At the same time, I

984
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: don't love it when you're over ten. That just makes

985
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: me a little nervous because the Falcons. The one thing

986
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: about them I was in one of the many who

987
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: was calling for dan Quinn to be fired earlier in

988
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: the season. They continue to play hard. I get, you know,

989
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: you don't want to read too much into, you know,

990
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: beating up on the Quinning Panthers team, but they continue

991
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: to play tough. It's just not a team that I'm

992
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: really looking to fade when they're getting double digits at

993
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: this point. So this is probably gonna be a game

994
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: that I'll stay away from. I do like your call

995
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: on the under. Again, not something I'm overly excited about,

996
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: but I do like that. You know, they're probably gonna

997
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: want to get back to their bread and butter a

998
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 1: little bit, especially with how good most of it looked

999
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: this past weekend. Let's move on to the Rams that

1000
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. This one is trending down. The Cowboys were

1001
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: laying three and the Rams come out and they beat

1002
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: up on the Seahawks and the Cowboys are currently laying

1003
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: one and the total has ticked up to forty nine.

1004
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: The Rams, as I mentioned, they're starting to peek a

1005
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: little bit here. The defense is playing out of its mind.

1006
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley looks fresh. Robert Woods has finally gotten involved.

1007
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: The Cowboys, on the other hand, look awful. They're lifeless

1008
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: against both the Bills and the Bears. The defense is

1009
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: playing down. Amari Cooper is clearly battling through injury. So

1010
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: how do you feel here about the Cowboys laying one

1011
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 1: with the total forty nine?

1012
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: We talked about an interesting line move in that Bears

1013
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 2: Packers game. This was Cowboys minus four last week and

1014
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 2: now the Cowboys are plus one at home. Have two

1015
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 2: teams ping ponged more than the Rams and the Cowboys

1016
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: this season. Rams obviously coming off of a Super Bowl

1017
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: performance McVeigh the genius. They start off horrifically. Their offensive

1018
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 2: line kind of puts them in a horrific situation. Offense

1019
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 2: can't get going. Cowboys light the world on fire to

1020
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: start the season and now have regressed now that they've

1021
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 2: actually played a couple of good teams. This line movement

1022
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: is kind of crazy to me. Uh, I have to

1023
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,479
Speaker 2: take the Cowboys here. I like the Cowboys money line,

1024
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: if you're queasy about that. I think the Cowboys are

1025
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: a great teaser candidate, getting them up to plus seven

1026
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 2: at home. They've got the mini by this is the

1027
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 2: season on the line, and I'm still not bought in

1028
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 2: to this Rams team. Their team is very obvious to

1029
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: figure out. Like I said, if you can get pressure

1030
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: on the quarterback, then you will have success against them.

1031
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 2: And I think Lawrence Quinn and the guys up front

1032
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 2: will be able to do enough to at least slow

1033
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 2: down this Rams offense. So I'm going to sell a

1034
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: peaking Ram stock and buy a plummeting Cowboys stock stocky

1035
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: stock low, give me the low stock here.

1036
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 1: By the way, you made the good catch. I said

1037
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: it was the Cowboys laying one, which it was the

1038
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: last time I checked, like two hours ago, and it's Cowboys.

1039
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: You're right plus one now, So that is a giant,

1040
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: giant line move. I don't think I could bring myself

1041
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: to back the Cowboys at this point, but I do

1042
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: see this as kind of something where the Rams just

1043
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: that's a huge win over the Seahawks on Sunday Night football.

1044
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: It's obviously a little bit of a short week for them.

1045
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: I think it's really tough to get up for this

1046
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: game at this point, now going into Dallas. So I

1047
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys are the sharper side. I don't know

1048
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: if I'm really there to bet it, just because, oh

1049
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 1: my god, the Cowboys are just yea sucks, completely disinterested

1050
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: in winning football games. I think They're not gonna be

1051
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: able to run the ball as really as well as

1052
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 1: they need to. I think Jalen Ramsey can take out Cooper.

1053
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: So it's just a game where I think I'm going

1054
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: to stay away. But you know the the you know,

1055
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: when it was the Cowboys laying four, I saw laying

1056
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: three when I first saw it. That's the spot where

1057
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: I was taking the rams and I was not hesitating

1058
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: at this point. Now that the Cowboys are getting one,

1059
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: the sharp side is the Cowboys. But I'm you're a braver.

1060
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: Man than I.

1061
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm like the so thick I could pull the trigger

1062
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: on this team at this point. Let's move on to

1063
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: the Bills. At the Steelers, this line has also moved.

1064
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: I saw the look at it, Steelers laying one. It's

1065
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: now up to Steelers laying two and a half. The

1066
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: total and abysmally low thirty six and a half. I

1067
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: might like the under. I'm not even joking. The Bills

1068
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: finally lose one here, a tough game against Baltimore. They

1069
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 1: were in it right up until the end. Now they

1070
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: have to travel to Pittsburgh. They're flex to Sunday Night Football.

1071
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: They take on a team that looks like it has

1072
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: absolutely no business being in the playoffs, but they continue

1073
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: to hold their own regardless of who they're playing. You

1074
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: can argue with Dot Hodges and the Steelers off. Maybe

1075
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: get James Connor back here. You can't argue with their defense, though,

1076
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: which has been absolutely elite over the last ten weeks

1077
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: or so. They win a close one against the Cardinals

1078
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: in Arizona. How do you feel here about the Steelers

1079
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: at home Sunday Night football laying two and a half

1080
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: with the total of fifty six and a half.

1081
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 2: Buffalo is only about two hundred miles from the Berg,

1082
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 2: so the mafia might be out. This is what ten

1083
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: years they were saying since last time the Bills were

1084
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 2: on Sunday Night Football. I don't know what to expect here.

1085
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 2: You talk about the total thirty six and a half,

1086
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: the range of outcomes here to me seems so narrow.

1087
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: What I mean is that whoever wins this game is

1088
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: going to win this by such a small margin, and

1089
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: there will be so few points scored in this game that, honestly,

1090
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 2: I think my favorite thing to do in this game

1091
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: is tease the Bills up to eight and a half,

1092
00:51:53,880 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 2: because unless the apocalypse takes place, like, how often are

1093
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: the Steelers winning this game by more than eight and

1094
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: a half points? These are two good defenses. I think

1095
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: I favor the Steelers a little bit more, but the

1096
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: Bills have an excellent run funnel, They do a terrific

1097
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: job defending the pass, and even if Connor comes back,

1098
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 2: I don't trust the Steelers to just line up and

1099
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: run the football. On the other side of the ball,

1100
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 2: Bills offense has been frisky. Josh Allens's highs have been

1101
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: very high, but the Steelers have a great pass rush

1102
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 2: and that's really helped out a not so talented secondary

1103
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: make a lot of plays. So I like you, somehow

1104
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: can see myself taking me under on thirty six and

1105
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: a half, And if I like the under on such

1106
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 2: a low total, I have to love the Bills as

1107
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 2: a teaser candidate getting eight and a half.

1108
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing a total this low, so I'm

1109
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: not going to go out there. I haven't been able

1110
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 1: to check yet. I didn't have a lot of time

1111
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: today but to check whether or not this is the

1112
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: lowest total of the season, because it strikes me that

1113
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,959
Speaker 1: it is at thirty six and a half. But either way, yeah,

1114
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 1: I kind of lean towards the under. I don't really

1115
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: know if I'd be able to pull the trigger teaser

1116
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: Bills up two eight and a half. I completely agree.

1117
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: It is very difficult to see any scenario where this

1118
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: game becomes, you know, a nine point game or anything

1119
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: like that. If I'm forced to choose a side right now,

1120
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: and it may be one where I won't be forced

1121
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: to do it, and I'll just do it because I

1122
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: like the side. I kind of like the Bills here.

1123
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: I've been fading the Bills a lot. I kind of

1124
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 1: have been reluctant to buy into them. The game against

1125
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: the Ravens, man they were close to tying that thing

1126
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: up and pushing it to overtime. I really think that

1127
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: in the end, it's something where I think they're gonna

1128
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: win this game, and I think they can go in

1129
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: there and win this game. I think they're a better

1130
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: team than the Steelers. I get you know that the

1131
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: Steelers don't have much of a pass offense, so the

1132
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: fact that they funnel to the run doesn't really play

1133
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 1: in their favor. But I agree with you. I don't

1134
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 1: fully trust James Connor, even if he comes back anyway,

1135
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: if not, it's any Snell. This is not something where

1136
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: I'm excited about the Steilers. So this may be one

1137
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: where I'm just gonna bite the bullet and take the

1138
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: Bills getting two and a half. But certainly you make

1139
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: a great point with teasing them up, because I cannot

1140
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: see the Steelers being able to beat them by that

1141
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: much under any plausable scenario. Let's get to our final

1142
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: game here, Colts at the Saints, slaying nine and a half.

1143
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: That's up from eight which I saw just yesterday, a

1144
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: total of forty five and a half. I would not

1145
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: want to be the Colts right now. They're banged up

1146
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: with no t Y Hilton, who probably won't return for

1147
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: this one. They're now down Paris Campbell, there's no Eric Ebron,

1148
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: the magic looks to be running out, and now a

1149
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: game against the Saints in primetime in New Orleans. Awful loss.

1150
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: The Saints are dealing with some injuries to the defense,

1151
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: but they're obviously strong. The offense show that it's right there.

1152
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: How do you feel here, Saints slaying nine and a

1153
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: half total at forty five and a half.

1154
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, referencing the banged up defense. Their rankins left the

1155
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: game with an ankle injury against the Niners, and Jared

1156
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: Cook suffered a concussion as well. How many times do

1157
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: we have to see the Saints do this at home

1158
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,959
Speaker 2: before it becomes quality that we can assign to them

1159
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 2: with frequency. I think I have to like the Colts

1160
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: in this spot. I remember the first week of the

1161
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 2: season they were touchdown favorites against the Texans, nearly lost outright.

1162
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 2: Last year, same spot to open the season, big favorites

1163
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: against the Bucks did lose outright.

1164
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: The Saints are just not.

1165
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 2: The team that we've been used to seeing over these

1166
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: last couple of years. Last week a total anomaly, scoring

1167
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 2: that many points, specifically against a good defense, a defense

1168
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 2: as good as San Francisco's. I don't trust the Saints

1169
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 2: to push the ball downfield, extend leeds. Alvin Kamara is

1170
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: somehow playing worse than Latavius Murray, Like every Kamara call

1171
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: was a negative outcome for the Saints last week, which

1172
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 2: is just astounding. So yeah, I trust Frank Reich, I

1173
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 2: trust Jacoby Brissetts. I think the Colts can do enough,

1174
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 2: and worst case scenario, I think the back door will

1175
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: be open for this offense. Thing nine has to high

1176
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: for the Saints team.

1177
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: So for me, it really does depend a lot on

1178
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: Rankins and somewhat Uncook as well, because I think their

1179
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: run defense is dramatically better when Rankins is in there,

1180
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: and if he's not there, then I think the Colts

1181
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: are going to be able to effectively run Marlon Mack,

1182
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: which is really all they want to do at this point,

1183
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: because you know, there's pretty much other than Zach Pascal

1184
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 1: there and you know Jack Doyle, you know Ibron is gone.

1185
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: There's nobody for Jacoby Brissett to throw the ball to

1186
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: at this point. I don't see them being able to

1187
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 1: put up a lot of points or to keep it

1188
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: close so long as Rankins is in there. If he's out, yeah,

1189
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: this is a game I'm probably gonna stay away from.

1190
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 1: I'm not back in the Colts. The Saints are gonna

1191
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: be angry. Man. They are gonna come out there and

1192
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a Kamara game where he's gonna go nuts.

1193
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: There just has to be. He hasn't really been playing

1194
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: all that bad. A lot of it has been the

1195
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 1: lack of touchdowns. He played terribly this last game against

1196
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, But I do think at some

1197
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: point he's gonna go boom. I think they're angry. I

1198
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: think they need a win. I just you know, depending

1199
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: on the injury. It's a lot of points. But if

1200
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: Sheldon Ringkins plays, I think I'd probably take the Saints

1201
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 1: so long as we're under ten. I think the Colts

1202
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: are gonna be the sharper side. I think they're gonna

1203
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: get the money. But for me, I'm okay laying the

1204
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: points because I do think this is gonna be a

1205
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: game where the Saints are gonna be angry and they're

1206
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: gonna take on the Colts. That's gonna do it. For

1207
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: today's show, Rich, it was really great having you back on.

1208
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: Remind everybody where they can find more of you in

1209
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:27,439
Speaker 1: your work.

1210
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can check out the grid Iron Gamble podcast.

1211
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 2: Wherever you listen to podcasts, whether it be Apple, Stitcher, Spotify,

1212
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:36,959
Speaker 2: and as always, you can follow us on Twitter at

1213
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: grid Iron Gamble. We tweet all our picks, we rib

1214
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 2: each other, and yeah, enjoy the last couple weeks of

1215
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: the season with us.

1216
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: Thanks all right man, you enjoy the last couple of

1217
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: weeks as well. Let's go Jets on Thursday night, hopefully

1218
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: that you and I can both witness our boys put

1219
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: up a monster upset over there. Thanks again to the

1220
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: sponsor for today's show, bet MGM. Remember to download the

1221
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: bet MGM Sports app and the promo code Harris to

1222
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: get your risk free first waiter of up to five

1223
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. Don't forget to rate and review the podcast

1224
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: and send a screenshot of that review to contest at

1225
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: bettingpros dot com for your chance to an assigned Michael

1226
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 1: Thomas Saint's helmet. We will be back later this week

1227
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: giving you some of our best bets for week fifteen.

1228
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you about