1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Good morning, everybody, and welcome to Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: I am your host, Alana Rizzo, and we are pleased 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: and privileged to be joined by Tim Kirchin, twenty twenty 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: two BBWAA Career Excellence Award winner, writer of course, analyst 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: with ESPN, also the host of Is This Game? 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: Is This Great Game? 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: Is this Great Game? Or What? 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: Podcast with his son Jeff Kirchin. I did not say that, well, 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Tim Kirchin, but this game is great and it's so 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: great to have you on the podcast. 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 4: How are you. 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 3: I'm really well, and I'm replacing Ken Rosenthal today and 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: we are We're the same height. 14 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 2: Which is just ridiculous. 15 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 3: And we used to cover the Orioles together in the 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 3: eighties on the Beat in Baltimore, and it was right 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: about the time that Ralph Sampson and Akiem Lajauan were together, 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: so they used to call us the twin Towers, even 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: though we were both five ft five. It was embarrassing, 20 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: but it was great fun and quite a challenge going 21 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: up against Ken Rosenthal. 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: Well, I tell you, it's great to have you. Ken 23 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: Rosenthal will be back with us on Thursday. He's finally 24 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: taken some vacation, So Tim, let's get right into it. 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: We'll start with the lead, and let's talk about those 26 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers coming off a sweep of the New York Mets. 27 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: They came back from being down five to nothing, they 28 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: walked it off on Sunday, and they have won nine straight. 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 3: What do you make of them? They're the best team 30 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 3: in baseball, Alana, I'm not sure there's a question about 31 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 3: that at this point. Now that could change because everything 32 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: changes in baseball, especially during this crazy twenty twenty five. 33 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: But they've won nine in a row. They have three 34 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 3: winning streaks of at least eight games this year. No 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: one else has more than one. They have three. They 36 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: just finished and are continuing the greatest sixty game streak 37 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 3: in the history of the Milwaukee Brewers. They have four 38 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: really good starting pitchers, They have a very good bullpen. 39 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: They are lead the Nation League and with stolen bases 40 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: with one hundred and twenty nine. They just run at 41 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: you until you can't stop them. They have elite defenders 42 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: at several different positions, and they have a lot of 43 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: what we call the in factor, and it is real. 44 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: Every time you walk into their clubhouse, you can feel 45 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: that this is a close knit team. I did that 46 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: second game of the season this year on the radio 47 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: when they got absolutely clobbered by the Yankees, and yet 48 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: they didn't show mean anything to them that they had 49 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: just been crushed by the Yankees and then crushed again. 50 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: They have great spirit in there, and it comes from 51 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: their manager, Pat Murphy, who we now find out keeps 52 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 3: a pancake in his pocket when he gets hungry during 53 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: the games. He keeps everybody lose. It's a really fun 54 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 3: team to be around, and it shows on the field. 55 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: The Brewers are five games ahead of the Phillies and 56 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays for Major League Baseball's best record. Tim, 57 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: you know that you talked about the it factor. You 58 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: also talked about how it starts with Pat Murphy. What 59 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: do you think it is about him? Because he seems 60 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: like the stern guy that is not the guy that's 61 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: gonna yell at you, but is going to be disappointed 62 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: in his kids. And that's even worse a guy that 63 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: would be disappointed versus being mad. But he also is 64 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: loose when he needs to be. I think it's a 65 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: good combination. 66 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: It's a wonderful combination. And he's as loose as it gets. 67 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: He makes me laugh every single time I see him. 68 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: But when time gets difficult, he isn't afraid to, you know, 69 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: put his foot down. And you know, they were playing 70 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: poorly at one point this year, and he said, you know, 71 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 3: we're just not a very good offensive team right now. 72 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: And since then, since Andrew Vaughn came up and others, 73 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: this team has just taken off. 74 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: By the way. 75 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: Andrew Vaughn said, yeah, I can come up, I can 76 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: steal some bases. And Pat Murphy looked at him, loves 77 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: the kid and says, hey, you don't run very fast. 78 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: You're slow. 79 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: You're not going to steal any bases here. You're going 80 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: to hit the ball out of the ballpark. Exactly what 81 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: has happened. So talking to players, Alana, as you know, 82 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 3: getting through to them is the most important thing about 83 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: being a manager, and Pat Murphy does that just about 84 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: as well as anyone in the game. 85 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like he's a great communicator, from the 86 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers to the San Diego Padres and San Diego 87 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: Padres recently taking two of three from the Red Sox 88 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: at Petco Park. Dylan sees Tim on Sunday was incredible. 89 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: What do you make of what they're doing right now? 90 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not surprised at all. 91 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: I saw them for three games just before the trade deadline, 92 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: and I left thinking, how. 93 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: Does anyone get a hit off of their bullpen? 94 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: And since then they added Mason Miller from the A's 95 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 3: who throws one hundred and three miles an hour. So 96 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: their bullpen is so deep, it is so versatile. And 97 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 3: Davey Johnson told me years ago, thirty years ago, and 98 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 3: he's a major league manager and a really good one. 99 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: You win in October with bullpen and bench, especially now 100 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 3: and now the Padres just have this deep, versatile, loaded 101 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,679 Speaker 3: bullpen filled with guys who throw in the upper nineties 102 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: if not one hundred, and they have their offense is 103 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 3: really coming around now and once Manny Machado gets hot again, 104 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: this is going to be a very, very dangerous team. 105 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 3: And Dylan Cees is going to be a part of it. 106 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 3: I still don't understand how he has struggled this badly 107 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: this year, but maybe he has found something and if 108 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: he finds it, they can make a real run at 109 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 3: the Dodgers for the division title. 110 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: But they're making the playoffs. 111 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: And They're going to be a difficult out because of 112 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: the bullpen and because of the way they're swinging the bats. 113 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: Right now, ten forty percent of the innings are being 114 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: thrown by relievers. Now you mentioned it. This is a 115 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: bullpen that was unbelievable, and then they add Mason Miller 116 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: on top of it. This is also a team that 117 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: even before this year, was not afraid of the Dodgers. 118 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 2: Tell me more about that. 119 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's absolutely true. They have had and you've seen 120 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 3: a bunch of these games. They've had some epic games 121 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 3: between those two teams, and not being intimidated by the 122 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: Dodgers is half the battle. And the Dodgers will tell 123 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 3: you quietly that the best team they've played in the 124 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 3: postseason last year was the Padres. Padres looked like they 125 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 3: were going to win that series and the Dodgers just 126 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: charged back to win it. It was tremendous stuff. But 127 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 3: everybody knows now when the Dodgers and Padres get together, 128 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: there is no way San Diego is backing down of 129 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: the Dodgers, who, once they get healthy, are going to 130 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: be a great team again. But the Padres are really 131 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: good and not fearing the Dodgers is really important. 132 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: And they're right there, right on their heels in the 133 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: NL West. Padres certainly thinking division versus the wild card, 134 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: and I tell you what, the ALE wild card, tim 135 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: and the AL in general is up for grabs. It's 136 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: kind of a scratch your head type of division. How 137 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: do you kind of sift through what's going on in 138 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: the American League? 139 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: Well, I've been wrong about the American League for the 140 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: entire season. At the beginning of the year, I said, 141 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 3: I have no feel whatsoever for this league. There are 142 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 3: no great teams in this league, and so far that 143 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: has been true. I counted the Guardians out like three 144 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: times this year, saying they have no chance to make 145 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: the playoffs, and now they are half a game out 146 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 3: of the wild card. I said the same thing about 147 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: the Meritors. I said, they're just not going to score 148 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: enough runs to make a run at the division or 149 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: the playoffs, and right now they are the number one 150 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: playoff team in the American League. The Yankees were seven 151 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: and a half games ahead in their division. Now there's 152 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 3: six and a half games behind Toronto, who I also 153 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: counted out at one point this year saying I think 154 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: they're just a fourth place team. Now it looks like 155 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 3: they're going to win the division. This is why the 156 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: American League is so much fun this year. With no 157 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: great teams and so many teams in it, this is 158 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: going to be a free for all. This is going 159 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: to be a fistfight right to the end, and they're 160 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: going to be about six to seven eights that are 161 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: gonna be going for playoff spots. 162 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: It's gonna be one. 163 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: You mentioned the Guardians that you had written them off. 164 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: I think everybody had written them off. Now this is 165 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: a team that they've won four straight series. They're seven 166 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: to two in the month of August, they were sellers 167 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: at the deadline. Make this make sense? 168 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: Well, it doesn't make sense, Alna, But that's the beauty 169 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: of it. Just like the Tigers last year didn't make 170 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 3: any sense. We did the game in Williamsport when they 171 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: came back and beat the Yankees in the ninth innings. 172 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: They weren't even considered a contender. They sold at the 173 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: trade deadline and they took off after beating the Yankees 174 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 3: in that Sunday night game. Maybe the same thing is 175 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: happening with the Guardians here. They're scoring a few more 176 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 3: runs I'm not sure how, but good for them. And 177 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 3: they're doing this without their star closer, and that's what's 178 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: more impressive than anything else that manager Stephen Vote has 179 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 3: such a good pulse of that team and he is 180 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: keeping them in this thing, and it's so impressive. Instead 181 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 3: of giving up, they are charging hard. 182 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: Yankees forty four and forty three, just one game above 183 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: five hundred since May first. Tim, do they make the playoffs? 184 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: Ah, I'm gonna say right now, I don't think they're 185 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: gonna make the playoffs. And it came to me in 186 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: the night that they're playing so poorly right now, and 187 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: even though Aaron Judge is back and he's going to 188 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: carry them, you just look at the other teams around 189 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: them that are playing so much better than they are 190 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: right now. 191 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: So if you're. 192 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 3: Asking me who's gonna make the playoffs, that the Guardians 193 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: or the Yankees, I may have to say the Guardians. 194 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 3: And I can't believe I'm saying that because the Yankees 195 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 3: always find a way to make the playoffs. But this 196 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 3: has been almost ninety games as just a very average team. Tim. 197 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: Are we living in a world where the Yankees and 198 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: the Mets may miss the postseason. 199 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: I can't. 200 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 3: I can't go that far. The Mets, though, are struggling again, 201 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 3: but never forget Alana. They had a terrible st at 202 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 3: you earlier this year and people looked at and said, well, 203 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 3: maybe they're not good. 204 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: And then they got hot again. 205 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 3: This is how it's worked all throughout baseball. So I'm 206 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 3: not going to say the Mets and the Yankees are 207 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 3: not going to make the playoffs. But you know, two 208 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 3: and a half months ago that was inconceivable and now 209 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 3: who knows. But I'm saying the Mets are going to 210 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 3: find a way to make the playoffs, but they better 211 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: get going and soon. 212 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why this is the greatest game in the world. 213 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: Much more to come on Fair Territory with Tim Kirchin today, 214 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: coming back in just a moment with Inside Dish. 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That is, Hello Fresh dot 235 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 5: com slash ft one zero FM to get ten free 236 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,479 Speaker 5: meals plus a free item for life. 237 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 4: Well, well, all right, time now for inside Dish, where 238 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 4: we typically go deeper on a recent story or trend 239 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 4: in the game. 240 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: Tim, let's talk about cal Rawly. Is he an MVP 241 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: candidate or moreover, is he the MVP pick in the 242 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: American League. 243 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 3: I still go they aren't judges the MVP in the 244 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: American League, but it is now really really close. Cal 245 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 3: Raley is having arguably the greatest might have the greatest 246 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 3: season a catcher has ever had. He is doing it 247 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: in the middle of a pennant race. He is a 248 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 3: switch hitter with power who hits in the middle of 249 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 3: the order. And most important, he is not just a catcher, 250 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 3: the most important defensive position on the field. He is 251 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: an elite defensive catcher. And he is the leader of 252 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: that team in every way. He's the son of a coach. 253 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: He carries himself that way all the time. And the 254 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: biggest reason that the Mariners are where they are right 255 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 3: now that is a very dangerous team, is because of 256 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 3: cal Raleigh. And he's a folk hero in Seattle, and 257 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 3: then after the home run Derby when his brother was 258 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 3: the catcher and his dad was the pitcher. He's a 259 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 3: folk hero all over the country now since he won 260 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: the home run Derby. So people are are going to 261 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: factor all sorts of things into cal Raleigh's situation. But 262 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 3: if he wins the MVP, I wouldn't be surprised at all, 263 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: because switch hitters just don't do what cal Raley is doing, 264 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: especially switch hitting catchers. 265 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: Tim Isn't that the definition though, of MVP? Why do 266 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: you think Aaron Judge is still the front runner? 267 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: If you do, well, I do, But Alana, we've gotten 268 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: away from the word valuable in the MVP. We are 269 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: now awarding this to the player of the Year. And 270 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 3: I understand how that works. But I've been voting up 271 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: for these things for forty four years, and I look 272 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: at a team and say, where would they be without 273 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 3: this guy? How important is he to their team as 274 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: far as winning and getting to the playoffs. That still 275 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 3: matters to me. And you look at the Mariners without 276 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 3: cal Raley, there's no chance they're going to make the playoffs. 277 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: Of course, the exact same thing can be said about 278 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: Aaron Judge. You see what happens when he comes out 279 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: of the lineup. The Yankees are a completely different team. 280 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: But this guy, what he's doing as a switch hitter. 281 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 3: You know, even Mickey Mantle didn't get the forty home 282 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 3: runs before August like cal Raley did. And he's going 283 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 3: to break the record. Perez's record for the most home 284 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 3: runs by a primary catcher forty eight in a season. 285 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: In fact, he might obliterate it, that's how great he's been. 286 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was back in twenty twenty one with sal 287 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: Perez had that forty eight home run season. I mean, 288 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: what do you think he's done in terms of being 289 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: able to elevate the Mariners offense, because he does it 290 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: behind the plate obviously as a tremendous defensive catcher, but 291 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: it almost seems like he allows the rest of the 292 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: guys in that lineup to really be where they're supposed to. 293 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: Be, right. 294 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: I always thought that Julio Rodriguez pressed a little bit 295 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 3: thinking I'm the best player on the team, and he 296 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: has every right. 297 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: To think that way. 298 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 3: But now that they've got cal Raley and now others 299 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: around him Randy Rozarena include and Uhanio Suarez, I think 300 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: it's taken some pressure off Julio Rodriguez and he thinks 301 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: I can just be one of the guys and go 302 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: out there and mash. But it's mainly because he doesn't 303 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 3: have to be the star on the team anymore, because 304 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: they already have a star cal Raley, who's been a 305 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: star there for several years. We just haven't really noticed 306 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 3: until he started hitting home runs at a record pace 307 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: and doing amazing things at the All Star Game. 308 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: Tim I feel like it's finally the year where the 309 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: Mariners lineup and offense catches up with their tremendous starting 310 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: staff and their arms in general. How far can cal 311 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: Rawly carry this team into the postseason. 312 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 3: Well, the Mariners are certainly good enough to go to 313 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: the World Series in the American League, and that's never 314 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: happened before. So it would be a really big deal 315 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 3: if the Mariners can do that. And I think given 316 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: all the Dodger injuries, even though there's much, I think 317 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 3: there's much greater strength than the National League. With the 318 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: starting pitching that the Mariners have and they're one through 319 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 3: six in the order is the best I've seen in 320 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: Seattle in twenty five years. I think they are not 321 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: only good enough to get to the World Series, I 322 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: think they can win the World Series. That's got people 323 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 3: in Seattle excited, and well it should, because this is 324 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: a different look to the Mariners because of the corner 325 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 3: infielders that they add at Josh Naylor and Juhanio Suarez 326 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 3: give them a very formidable lineup. 327 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: Now, my goodness, August eleven, Tim Kirchin saying that the 328 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: Seattle Mariners can go to the World Series for the 329 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: first time and win the whole dang thing. I tell 330 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: you what. Jerry Depoto obviously constantly making moves. Do you 331 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: think they won the deadline by adding Josh Naylor and 332 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: eu Henio Suarez? 333 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 3: I do they needed punch at third base? They needed 334 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: punch at first base. 335 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: And I asked somebody around the league. 336 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 3: I said, look, the Mariners have let you know, let 337 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 3: themselves down, their fans down many times. I said, do 338 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: you see that happening again? And emphatically he goes, no, 339 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 3: I love that team. That team is ready to go. 340 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: And this is a very honest man that answered me 341 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: that way. He would have told me something bad's gonna 342 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 3: happen there. It always does. He doesn't think so this year. 343 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: Does Calvaly get a statue? 344 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 3: Well, when you got a nickname like Big Dumper, he's 345 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: gonna get a statue. Whether he never plays a game 346 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 3: again anyway. Again, he has charisma, he has color to him. 347 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 3: It's just so great. And again that scene Alta at 348 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 3: the All Star Game was one of the great things 349 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 3: I've ever seen. Dad's throwing in your little brothers to Catcher. 350 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 3: I asked him afterwards, where are you guys gonna go celebrate? 351 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 3: And he said, well, my brother's only fifteen years old, 352 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 3: so my dad and I are going to go have 353 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: a beer and we'll celebrate with him from Afar. 354 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 355 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: I heard he was supposed to buy his brother a 356 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: car too. We'll see if that actually happens. I'm not 357 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: even certain that he's old enough to drive yet. Maybe 358 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: he just got his permit. Tim, How did he figure 359 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: out how to hit at that ballpark? 360 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 3: That's a tough place to hit, but again it really helps, 361 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 3: as we saw on the home run derby that he 362 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 3: hits from both sides of the plate. And the key 363 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 3: to being a switch hitter, and it's not easy, is 364 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 3: to try to have the same swing and the same 365 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 3: approach from both sides. Chipper Jones was the best I've 366 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 3: ever seen. His left handed swing and right handed swing 367 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 3: I thought were virtually identical. And go look at those 368 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 3: numbers lefty and righty. They're virtually identical. And this is 369 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 3: what cal Raley does so well. Doesn't matter what side 370 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 3: he hits from. He is a terror for pitchers in 371 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: Major League Baseball. 372 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a special player, having a special season. I 373 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: don't know that he'll ever even repeat what he's doing 374 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: this year. All right, coming up after the break, it 375 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: is time for grilling. Tim, get your questions in. 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Try surf shark today. 397 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: All right time now for Grill and Ken get those 398 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: questions in for Tim Kirchin and also on your podcast 399 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: is Great? Is this a great game? 400 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: Or what? 401 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 4: Tim? 402 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: You guys often talk about this date in history, so 403 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: that is where we're going to start our questions today. 404 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: On this date, in nineteen twenty nine, Babe Ruth hit 405 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: his five hundredth career home run. How do you think, 406 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: and this is a conversation we've had quite some time 407 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: in this industry, how do you think Tim, he would 408 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: fare against today's pitching. 409 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 3: Well, it would take him a while to figure it 410 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 3: out because he never saw velocity like this. He never 411 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 3: saw a split like this. 412 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 2: But I really. 413 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 3: Believe if you gave Babe Ruth a couple of months, 414 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: he would figure it out and he would be not 415 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 3: a good hitter, a great hitter Today, Alana, he hit 416 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 3: tape measure home runs, you know, almost one hundred years, 417 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 3: one hundred years ago. How do you explain that he 418 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 3: was bigger, stronger than anyone else at that time. He 419 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 3: was sixty two two twenty five in his prime. He 420 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 3: could run, He was a good right fielder. He was 421 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 3: the best left handed pitcher in the American League. When 422 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: he decided to become a hitter, and then he became 423 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 3: the greatest hitter of all time. He has one hundred 424 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 3: and thirty six triples in his career. He could really run, 425 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 3: and it drives me crazy. I love John Goodman, but 426 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 3: we have these actors play Babe Ruth in the movies 427 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 3: and they turn him into a cartoon character instead of 428 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 3: what he is, the greatest player of all time. That's 429 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: what I think. I want to ask Bert Hawkins. He 430 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: was a former baseball writer who wrote one hundred years ago. 431 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 3: And I said, Hawk, who's the greatest player you've ever seen? 432 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: And he looked insulted. He looked at me and said, 433 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 3: buddy boy, I'll take Babe Ruth and you can have 434 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 3: the next three. That's how great Babe Ruth was Alana. 435 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: When he got to seven hundred homers, nobody else had 436 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 3: half that many. He was the first hit thirty forty, 437 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: fifty and sixty in a season. My team growing up 438 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 3: was the Washington Senators, and from nineteen twenty six to 439 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 3: nineteen thirty two, Babe Ruth out homered the Washington Senators 440 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 3: for a seven year period. That's how dominant he was 441 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 3: in his era. And I am in the vast minority 442 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 3: on this. But I think if we dropped him into 443 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 3: today's game gave him an opportunity to figure out how 444 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: to hit this, he would have figured it out. That's 445 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 3: how great a hitter he was and how great an 446 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 3: athlete he was. 447 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you said that you're taking Babe Ruth. Everybody else 448 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: can have the entire field. But you just mentioned a 449 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: word that I don't think a lot of people would 450 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: associate with Babe Ruth, and you said athlete. I think 451 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: he's a lot more athletic t him than people gave 452 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: him credit for. 453 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 454 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 3: You know, he was a great basketball player, and you know, Alana, 455 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 3: he threw, of course with his left hand, and he 456 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: batted left handed, but he wrote and ate with his 457 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: right hand, which I've always been fascinated Brooks Robinson is 458 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 3: like that the other way around. But both adexterus, which 459 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 3: allowed him to be an even better athlete than people understand. 460 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 3: I repeat, he could run, He stole over one hundred bases. 461 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 3: He was a great pitcher, He was a good right fielder, 462 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 3: and again we've made him out to be this big, 463 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 3: fat guy who runs around the bases backwards and he 464 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 3: eats twelve hot dogs during a game. Yes, he was 465 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 3: a carouser, but he was also a great player and 466 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 3: a great athlete. 467 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: What do you think he would have been like on 468 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: a daily in conversations in the clubhouse? Tim, do you 469 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: think you could have walked into that Yankee clubhouse back 470 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: in the day or the Red Sox clubhouse before he 471 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 1: was traded to the Yankees and have quite the conversation 472 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: with him. What do you think he was like? 473 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 3: Well, if I could go back in time and speak 474 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 3: to one player or one person, most people want to 475 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: talk to Abraham Lincoln. I would want to go back 476 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 3: and talk to Babe Ruth and just figure out who 477 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 3: the heck are you. I had a friend of mine 478 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 3: who does these things for a living, and he says, 479 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 3: the fast twitch muscles inside Babe Ruth were unexplainable. We 480 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 3: need to cut his body open to see how he 481 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 3: was able to hit the ball that far. But I 482 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 3: would just love to ask him all the baseball stories. 483 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 2: I want to know what it was like to face. 484 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 3: Walter Johnson because I went to Walter Johnson High School. 485 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: Right here on my shirt named after the greatest pitcher 486 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 3: of all time. I would love to sit with Babe 487 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 3: Ruth on a train ride and just pick his brain 488 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 3: about how he became this good and how he stayed 489 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 3: this good when sometimes he didn't exactly follow the rules. 490 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: All right, Tam, we have about a minute left in 491 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: the show. If you had a dinner party, Babe, Ruth 492 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: is your head guest. Who are the other two people 493 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: that you're inviting besides your lovely wife, dead or alive? 494 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 3: Well, I think Walter Johnson has to be there, because again, 495 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 3: I went to school named after the greatest pitcher of 496 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 3: all time. So I'd love to go back one hundred 497 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: and twenty years and talk to the best pitcher and 498 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: the best hitter that we've ever seen. And then, since 499 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 3: we already mentioned him, I think Abraham Lincoln should be 500 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 3: there because he was doing some important things before they 501 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 3: came along. And by the way, Alana, if you don't know, 502 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 3: you know who shares a birthday with Abraham Lincoln. I 503 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 3: don't know why I get such a kick out of 504 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 3: Todd Frasier has the same birthday as Abraham four score 505 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 3: and twenty sixty years ago. Oh my god, Todd Frasy 506 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 3: makes me laugh worse. 507 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, Ago and the Tod Father at this at the 508 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: same dinner. Tim Kirchen, I appreciate you so much. I 509 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: can talk to you for hours and hours and hours. 510 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 1: Say you for taking the tide to be with us 511 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: on Fair Territory, filling in for your good friend Ken Rosenthal. 512 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 2: Have a great day. 513 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 3: We appreciate it. 514 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon, my friend. 515 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: Thank you. 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