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Speaker 1: Warning, This podcast contains minor spoilers for a bunch of

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Speaker 1: projects from the MCU, including and most pertinently, lots of

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Speaker 1: stuff from Phase four, including Black Panther, Wakonda, Forever, Wanna Vision,

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Speaker 1: et cetera, and lots of Theories four, Phases, five, six,

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Speaker 1: and beyond. You're right to hear a live episode recorded

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Speaker 1: at La Comic ConA December third, featuring the Great Rosie Knight,

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Speaker 1: the Great Cody Ziggler, and the Great Joel Monique.

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jason Sepsi, and welcome to x Ravision

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Speaker 1: of The Crooked Podcast, where we dive deep into your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture today, live from

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Speaker 1: the beautiful, the gorgeous, the gorgeous Los Angeles Convention Center.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it, folks. The eyes have

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Speaker 1: never beheld such a paradise as this. In front of

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Speaker 1: everywhere It's beautiful, in front of a live studio audience,

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Speaker 1: joined by some of our most wonderful friends, we will

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Speaker 1: be discussing Marvel's Phase four, some of our favorite things

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Speaker 1: from twenty twenty two, Miles Morales, spider Punk, Woo, all

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Joining us today of course the

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Speaker 1: Comics Encyclopedia, the number one Eternals lover Rosie Knights, Special guests,

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Speaker 1: host and executive producer for iHeart Podcast, Joel Monique, Oh Yes,

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Speaker 1: and Superstar of State and Screen and Cage. He's got

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Speaker 1: to leave us to go to the Futurama panel.

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Speaker 1: He's writing for Futurama. He's written for she Hulk. He's

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Speaker 1: written Spider Punk in Marvel Comics, Miles Morales, Spider Man

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Speaker 1: in your comic shop this Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. It's always fun to be back.

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Speaker 4: Well, let's start there.

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Speaker 1: Since we only have you for a limited time only,

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Speaker 1: what can you tell us? It's been just such an

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Speaker 1: incredible year for you.

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Speaker 5: It's been the weirdest year ever for me. Everything that

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Speaker 5: There's this dude named zeb Wells who was like the

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Speaker 5: when I was they were pitching the Deremo the daredevilp

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Speaker 5: so which episode that I wrote. They're like, how did

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Speaker 5: they they had the TV show, they had the movie.

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Speaker 5: And I just happened to have a Daredevil comics book

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Speaker 5: he got me to writing comic books and I was like,

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Speaker 5: remember when I saw him as a kid. Kid, I

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Speaker 2: Very weird place to be in, but very very cool

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's not like the first sort of sick

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Speaker 4: team up you've gotten to do, because spider Punk was

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Speaker 2: It's like it was really fun.

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Speaker 5: And I just hope that people continue to enjoy Hoby

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Speaker 2: It's a it's been. I truly can ask like a

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Speaker 4: If you like spider punk, then there are lots of

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Speaker 4: spider punk merchandise available now. Because so if you want

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, everything came by me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, everything exactly.

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Speaker 5: This is just like you like music, because I obviously

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love nothing more than to write the please

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Speaker 2: Into the ground.

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Speaker 4: And before because we got to I think that you

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Speaker 4: got to head off soon, ish, What is your favorite

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Speaker 2: Were just talking about this in the green room.

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Speaker 7: Michael, that was delightful.

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Speaker 4: cod But yeah, like I think that's it's always going

439
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Speaker 4: to be cyclical. And the thing that we always say

440
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Speaker 4: on the pod is like you can there's there's one.

441
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Speaker 4: There's so many things within the Superhio universe. Everyone can

442
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Speaker 4: find something they like if they want to, well, well,

443
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Speaker 4: finite it's a great example. But also if you don't

444
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Speaker 4: like it, that's also fine. There's like so many other

445
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Speaker 4: great movies. We did a best of twenty twenty two

446
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Speaker 4: horror talk on the podcast. You know, me and Joel

447
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Speaker 4: love all kinds of movies, like same with Jason. There's

448
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Speaker 4: all different things, but this is just one of those

449
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Speaker 4: things we're passionate about. And I think because of that

450
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Speaker 4: we can kind of see the audience and the hunger

451
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Speaker 4: for these stories, and like you said, different stories, we're

452
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Speaker 4: actually only just tapping into all the different characters, the

453
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Speaker 4: Young Avengers, having quick characters, having more diverse characters, having

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Speaker 4: characters from all over the world. That is actually just

455
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Speaker 4: starting like fifteen years into the MCU. So I think

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Speaker 4: that's always going to be space for those stories to

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Speaker 4: keep being told.

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Speaker 1: Joel, you said something that really resonated with me, which

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Speaker 1: is the love of Mess. I also love. Yeah, I

460
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Speaker 1: love mess so much and I really feel like I

461
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Speaker 1: really feel like we're heading into the mess era. Oh

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Speaker 1: Messy Because like WandaVision loved it, I also think it

463
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Speaker 1: was for me the bar emotionally and in terms of

464
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Speaker 1: storytelling and how it impacted the wider universe kind of

465
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Speaker 1: like the gold standard for what a Disney Plus show

466
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Speaker 1: can do. Sure, and it grows out of this, you know,

467
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Speaker 1: legendary iconic relationship of the Vision and the Scarlet Witch.

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Speaker 1: We're now entering a phase of the MCU where you

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Speaker 1: have a lot of characters that are there or are

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Speaker 1: coming that have relationships that have relationships with other characters.

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Speaker 1: Front row, here.

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Speaker 9: We have.

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Speaker 1: A young man dressed his name war When when all

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Speaker 1: I know is when Sue Storm shows up in the

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Speaker 1: m c U. The name that we have not happen, Folks,

476
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Speaker 1: It's over for read.

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Speaker 4: Read regions is done. I mean it's gonna be a

478
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Speaker 4: big think about the Sue name. Old relationship has to happen,

479
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Speaker 4: which means they just have to cast a Sue storm.

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Speaker 4: Who you believe that name or would full fall? That's

481
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Speaker 4: the question. And also then you have to cost a

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Speaker 4: read who is hot enough that it can be a love.

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Speaker 7: The conqueror who is black. We're getting there, We're.

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Speaker 4: Gonna I think the mess one division is a great point, naturally, Yeah,

485
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Speaker 4: because that is a messy relationship in the comics. You know,

486
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Speaker 4: we're about to have wonder Man played by you, you know,

487
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Speaker 4: and that is unbelievable. Wonder Man in Scarlet Witch. That

488
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Speaker 4: is a relationship that happened in the comic's.

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Speaker 7: Kind of it's kind of her husband's kind.

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Speaker 4: And I think we're gonna get some really interesting interpretations

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Speaker 4: of how Vision and wonder Man Simon Williams connect in

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Speaker 4: the MCU. So I think this is gonna be the

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Speaker 4: mess era of the MCU. And in that way, Phase

494
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Speaker 4: four was actually quite a good introduction because it's outrageous

495
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Speaker 4: storylines that can get brought in and brought out, and

496
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Speaker 4: some of them were quite messy.

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Speaker 1: And and once we get to the X Men, that's

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Speaker 1: just mess city.

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Speaker 4: This is actually this is just the mess cinematic universe.

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Speaker 4: The next ten years is just preparing for the mess

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Speaker 4: of the X Men the universe.

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Speaker 7: Love that.

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Speaker 1: Uh you said something really I think really important, which

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Speaker 1: is man that Readcasting is going to be crucial.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, crucial. You we everybody, everybody here has probably

506
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Speaker 4: seen kinda forever And if you haven't seen what kinda

507
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Speaker 4: forever you've seen pictures of ten as name More.

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Speaker 1: An unbelievable performance just holds your attention every time.

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Speaker 10: Our best villains and Loki, he's they They managed to

510
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Speaker 10: do a great job of introducing a character who feels

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Speaker 10: like they can become the heart of that kind of

512
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Speaker 10: anti villainous role that that is so key to the MCU.

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Speaker 4: And they also created a name More who is very attractive,

514
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Speaker 4: and in that way, I think that casting read has

515
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Speaker 4: to be important because you have to make it believable,

516
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Speaker 4: because otherwise Sue would just leave yes, no question.

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Speaker 7: Custody and read it's been nice.

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Speaker 4: But Surry is literally the strongest person in the MCU.

519
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Speaker 4: That she didn't just join Namere and be like, you're right,

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Speaker 4: let's just burn it all like.

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Speaker 7: And I was like, does it happen?

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Speaker 4: The chemistry just has chemistry with everyone, So it's who

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Speaker 4: is your who's your dream? We read Richard's I was.

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Speaker 7: Just thinking, Okay, this is a challenge, right, because if

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Speaker 7: you don't want to me, I sort of missed the

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Speaker 7: MCU days when they were like you virtually don't know

527
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Speaker 7: this person, ye them, yeah, here or there, And I

528
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Speaker 7: think that would be really crucial to read, especially after

529
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Speaker 7: we got Office Dude. I really like I loved that casting.

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Speaker 7: I thought it was really fun. I thought he did

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Speaker 7: a great job in the role.

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Speaker 4: I was glad he died though that's not the damn.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, So I think that there's that would be

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Speaker 7: My hope would be that we would get a character actor.

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Speaker 7: And I'm like scratching my brain trying to figure out,

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Speaker 7: like who could fill this role.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what do you think of the one of the

538
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Speaker 4: biggest fan theory ones. So I do think this would

539
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Speaker 4: be a good love triangle because I think it would

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Speaker 4: put sue A in a compromising position. What about Raoul

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Speaker 4: Cooley because that's one of the biggest fan theory read.

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Speaker 7: Oh he could kill it, Yeah he could.

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Speaker 4: He's got that mix of like arrogance and like funny,

544
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Speaker 4: yeah and rude. I'm interested to see it. I Mean,

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Speaker 4: the weirdest thing is that I think a lot of

546
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Speaker 4: what we're seeing now in the MCU was meant to

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Speaker 4: be setting up a Fantastic Four movie that was gonna

548
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Speaker 4: come out much sooner. Yeah, so it's very interesting now

549
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Speaker 4: to be in a space where we don't know who

550
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Speaker 4: the Fantastic for are. But speaking of mess and Wonder Vision,

551
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Speaker 4: it is Matt Shackman who's in charge. So they probably

552
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Speaker 4: realized they were, like, we need someone who can bring

553
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Speaker 4: like a divorced couple energy to.

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Speaker 7: This movie, like William Jackson Harper.

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Speaker 4: Oh, well, you know what, William Jackson Harper was just cast,

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Speaker 4: oh in Quantumania. And I believe that that was my

557
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Speaker 4: first thought because you have Krang. He is a descendant

558
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Speaker 4: of a Nathaniel Richards, you know, Read's dad. A lot

559
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Speaker 4: of people think he's gonna be Read. I think it's

560
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Speaker 4: more likely that he is going to be Nathaniel Reads dad,

561
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Speaker 4: because I want an older Fantastic Four, but I think

562
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Speaker 4: they're gonna go young. I think it's gonna be in

563
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Speaker 4: their twenties because they're gonna want them to hold that for.

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Speaker 7: The next We do have like a really like sly line.

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Speaker 7: Oh gosh, Now, of course I can't remember which movie,

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Speaker 7: but doesn't Tony at one point like make reference to

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Speaker 7: the Fantastic Four and say like, oh, like those guys

568
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Speaker 7: from the sixties.

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Speaker 4: There's there's a joke about then. There's lots of jokes

570
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Speaker 4: about naming conventions in the MCU, and a lot of

571
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Speaker 4: them are like, oh, that sounds like a sixties boy band.

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Speaker 4: Oh that sounds And I think the general roomor now

573
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Speaker 4: is what many fans wanted, which was for a long time.

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Speaker 4: I've been talking about it. I think we've talked about

575
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Speaker 4: in the podcast, the idea of a fantastic movie, that

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Speaker 4: four movie that begins in the sixties and moves into

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Speaker 4: the now, and that seems to be the general idea

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Speaker 4: of what they're doing. So there would be a lot

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Speaker 4: of ways to tie that to a star Now.

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Speaker 7: Were those period pieces really well? And I am a

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Speaker 7: sucker for like, you know, let's get into a specific

582
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Speaker 7: era and really explore it. I really liked First Class

583
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Speaker 7: X Men. First Class I thought was really solid, and

584
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Speaker 7: so yeah, I could see more of that.

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Speaker 4: It was very interesting to see how they're going to

586
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Speaker 4: bring that Fox Universe into the MCU. That I think

587
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Speaker 4: is that I think is the biggest question of how

588
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Speaker 4: do you meld the world of like the original X

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Speaker 4: Men movies, then the second Era extra movie that began

590
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Speaker 4: with Fast Class. How do you bring that into the

591
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Speaker 4: MCU in a way that feels holistic and as Kevin

592
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Speaker 4: Figi is a hater of reboots that doesn't necessarily directly

593
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Speaker 4: reboot it and just instead creates a kind of whole world.

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Speaker 1: I have a theory, and it's not it's not good,

595
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Speaker 1: and it's very obvious. But I've been reading as we've

596
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Speaker 1: been discussing, I've been reading Acts Avengers versus X Men

597
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Speaker 1: versus Eturnals, the big crossover event over the last few

598
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Speaker 1: months in the Marvel comics. The bottom line is Druig,

599
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Speaker 1: who is a pretty ominous guy in the in the

600
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Speaker 1: MCU version of the Eternals, is like, you know what,

601
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Speaker 1: mutants are deviants. Our whole mission is we've got to

602
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Speaker 1: take out the deviance. Therefore, we're going to wage war

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Speaker 1: on the X Men, and a lot of things happen.

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Speaker 4: Reading through it, it.

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Speaker 1: Ties up a lot of loose ends that currently exist

606
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Speaker 1: in the In the MCU, what's going to happen with

607
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Speaker 1: the celestial in the middle of the ocean? How do

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Speaker 1: we get it?

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Speaker 4: How big question, which is a huge question.

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Speaker 1: How do we get it and of interest team back together?

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Speaker 1: What is the relationship between mutants and deviants? Turns out

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Speaker 1: they share a lot of the same DNA. I think

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Speaker 1: that Rosie, no one has a better positioned to talk about.

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Speaker 4: I think the Eternals is are our way in no

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Speaker 4: I agree. And also, this is one of my number

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Speaker 4: one favorite things. If you've ever listened to the podcast

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Speaker 4: or you've ever had the fortune slash misfortune to meet

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Speaker 4: me and talk about comics, that Marvel Comics has always

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Speaker 4: since the since the inception of the MCU, but way

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Speaker 4: before that, including you know, she Hulk was created because

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Speaker 4: they were going to potentially introduce shea Hulk on the

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Speaker 4: TV show and stuff. So they've always seeded stuff, and

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Speaker 4: this comic feels to me like they're seeding it. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's very simple if you think about it. We've all

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Speaker 4: been wondering where are the X Men? How can mutants exist?

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Speaker 4: But nobody knows about them. Are Mutant's going to be

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Speaker 4: a new thing?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: If the Eternals, who have been around for you know,

630
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Speaker 4: six thousand years, like being sultry all over the world

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Speaker 4: as we saw them in the movie in History ignoring

632
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Speaker 4: some very big problems in the human world, but just

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Speaker 4: going about their business. You know, if they've been around

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Speaker 4: for that long, then that means that the mutants, if

635
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Speaker 4: the eternals believe them to be deviants, would have to

636
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Speaker 4: be in hiding. And that is a really great excuse

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Speaker 4: for the MCU to say, Oh, well, Charles, you know,

638
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Speaker 4: or Gene or who whichever, a mega level psychic stopped

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Speaker 4: everyone from being able to remember the X Men, remember

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Speaker 4: that mutants exist, you know. And I think that Kamala

641
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Speaker 4: could be a huge turning point where someone who was

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Speaker 4: originally you know, in the comics and inhuman but was

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Speaker 4: originally supposed to be a mutant who is now a

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Speaker 4: mutant in the MCU, that could be the person. Oh wait,

645
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Speaker 4: mutants exist, and then the Eternals come and there's a

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Speaker 4: big problem, and we kind of end up in a

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Speaker 4: situation where we need Charles or Storm. I'm a Storm

648
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Speaker 4: as a head teacher, fun and I think Storm is

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Speaker 4: the way into the X Men that we need. But

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Speaker 4: I think that that definitely is the way we could

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Speaker 4: be going, especially because the way we have the saga

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Speaker 4: is going now. Fase Face Phase seven was skipping out

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Speaker 4: a little bit, but it's probably gonna be the Mue

654
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 4: saga that seems like it makes the most sense.

655
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: It should be.

656
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 7: It really should be, because like, Okay, do you guys

657
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 7: want to hear my pitch about how Yes?

658
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: Yes?

659
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 7: So I really like when the MCU plays like a

660
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 7: long game in the background, right, That to me is

661
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 7: like when you're like, oh, for if we just go

662
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 7: back to phase one, We're like, and here's the shield

663
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 7: and here's the hammer, and here's like nick Fury, and

664
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 7: you're like, oh, we're getting there. We're gearing up at

665
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 7: the end of the Marvels, you know, after Kamala has

666
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 7: caused whatever kind of chaos she's about to cause. Would

667
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 7: love it if a Professor X in my head is

668
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 7: Jeffrey Wright. I think he's just rolls up at the

669
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 7: cut scene and it's like, hey, girl, you can't be

670
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 7: in regular people high school.

671
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: School.

672
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 7: You We'll bust you back and forth Jersey to New

673
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 7: York every day.

674
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 4: We play.

675
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: Stuff to do.

676
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, And then from there, like as we're getting

677
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 7: more of these kids, you know, most of the kids

678
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 7: we have now are not super powered beings, right. I

679
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 7: think love is and.

680
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 4: That's love we have. We have one division. We have

681
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 4: a Wonder's kids, but we're not really sure what their

682
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 4: status is that we can imagine.

683
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 7: But we're not going to get more of them going forward,

684
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 7: and I would love it if as they're coming forward,

685
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 7: like here's your like you know, Hogwarts acceptance letter, but

686
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 7: it's from the School for the Mutants. And I just

687
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 7: think it would be really cool if I just what

688
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 7: I'm really asking for is a teen teenage show with

689
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 7: the kids. That is the Do we not have a

690
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 7: boarding school show of.

691
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 4: Disney plus show just called School for Gifted Youngsters? Is

692
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 4: the money is that just you just call it mutants

693
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: and you just have everyone is about a different kid.

694
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 4: I think that you're onto something because I actually think

695
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 4: they're already doing that. We have Kamala, as we talked

696
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 4: about on the podcast. Every episode of She Hulk shout

697
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 4: out Zig Goodbye, we miss you. He you know, that

698
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 4: show introduced mutants all the time. They might not have

699
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 4: been like this is a mutant, but if you read

700
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 4: the comics, they're mutants. They're characters who are mutants. I

701
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 4: think they're already adding those little bits and bobs in

702
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 4: so that when you get to you know, Marvel's which

703
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 4: is looks like it's going to be a really outrageous

704
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: cosmic thing where Kamala and Carol are kind of doing

705
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 4: this Rick Jones Marvel like switching. I think it's something

706
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 4: that cosmic could probably get the attention of Charles Xavier,

707
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 4: even if he's in hiding, and probably be like, yeah,

708
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 4: you gotta come.

709
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 7: Oh.

710
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 4: So Kamala's powers in now are these kind of cosmic,

711
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 4: you know, transformational quantum powers. That is an a mega

712
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 4: level power probably if you think about it, and then

713
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 4: Charles is going to have to draw her in. So

714
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 4: I love that, and I think it's really hard because

715
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 4: we all love the X Men so much, as you know,

716
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 4: me and Jason will always find a reason to talk

717
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 4: about the X Men, saying with Joel, it's hard to

718
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 4: not just want to skip ahead to that even though

719
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 4: we know it's probably not coming bah you know, Kang

720
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 4: and Jonathan Major's that's keeping me. I'm invested for the

721
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 4: next era just mostly because of that.

722
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Speaker 1: I would imagine by the time we get to the

723
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: big crossovers with the whatever the next version of the

724
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: Avengers team is that unites to fight Kang, I would

725
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: imagine by then especially with you know, we're going to

726
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,959
Speaker 1: get the High Evolutionary and Guardians of the pat three.

727
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: We've already got naymore who is you know, Mutant one?

728
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 1: In the first Mutant it feels like you have enough,

729
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,479
Speaker 1: you have enough there under Category M to already have

730
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 1: either some teams or some you know, secret teams already

731
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: operating by the time we get to the big crossovers.

732
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 7: You don't have to start at the beginning, which is

733
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 7: what we've learned from how they drop Spider Man into

734
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 7: the yeah, you know crossover. It's like, we know these folks,

735
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 7: like if you really need a refresher of like how

736
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 7: to the school, you've got two great arcs. Okay, you

737
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 7: have like one and a half, like pretty good combination

738
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 7: you can watch and get.

739
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 4: And I'm sure they're all going to be on Disney

740
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 4: Plus if they're not already, you know, it's not going

741
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 4: to be hard.

742
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 7: For peoples them. And so then like just leaving the

743
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 7: door open to be like, oh, hey, the school's been

744
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 7: operating quietly for a while because you know, we didn't

745
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 7: want police to come here and like take over our school,

746
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 7: and then sort of allowing those like you'll have like

747
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 7: older teens who are like fight ready. You'll have all

748
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 7: of your teachers around, and then you can bring in

749
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 7: the really young kids.

750
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that ten year old child Sol keeps around

751
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 4: the back up to help hone their skills.

752
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 7: That's what he's really trying to do.

753
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, his own son that he kept locked up.

754
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just in.

755
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 7: Case you would have been die that guy.

756
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 4: You know. So okay, So the thing is that great guys. Yeah, man,

757
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 4: don't even get me starting this master training he's taking.

758
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 4: He's gotten somebody's house, and he's like, your child's mutant,

759
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 4: This is very dangerous for them to live in the

760
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 4: human world. Let them come to my school where I

761
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 4: have something called the war Room, where I train them

762
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 4: out to go out and kill other mutants.

763
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 7: Really inspired, he's like, this is the way they seem

764
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 7: like they treat great gene.

765
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: You know that now, we don't go into people's minds

766
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: without their consent. You're not doing that, Rachel.

767
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 4: Follow your lead and he's like, I don't. Don't look

768
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 4: at those mental blocks I put into your brain. So

769
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 4: the one thing that we have coming up, we have

770
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 4: Kang obviously love Kang got the whole phase five, and

771
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 4: then we're leading into secret Wars. So what do you

772
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 4: to think about the likelihood Me and Jason have talked

773
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 4: a lot about secret wars. They're introducing all these secret locations.

774
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 4: We know, we've met them. Taolow now talakan Oh, those

775
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 4: two now sound kind of similar. Actually, you know, we've

776
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: got the Veil in Miss Marvel, we have the Eternals

777
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 4: as generally as a secret society, we have all these

778
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 4: different spaces where people are going to fight what and

779
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 4: they can basically do what in the comics was called

780
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 4: battle Wild, where it was all different the universes brought together.

781
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 4: But it will just they already exist in the MCU.

782
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 4: How likely do you think it is that the mutants

783
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 4: could come into play there in Secret.

784
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: Wars as the introduction. I would imagine that it's all

785
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: in flux right now. You know, they've left themselves numerous

786
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: avenues like they've already sprinkled in several mutants. As we've discussed,

787
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: how do you get to an entire secret society with

788
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: an up and running school and the whole political ideology

789
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: that exists as a kind of uniting factor across this

790
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: across this community. I don't know that they know, but

791
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: my question with with Secret Wars is twofold one. Is

792
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: it purely the Time runs Out kind of you know,

793
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: the result of a time runs out kind of storyline

794
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: where you have the collapse of all the multiverses that

795
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: have been introduced over the last phase. Or is it

796
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: really something like the original Secret War where you just

797
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: mentioned it, where we have all these secret societies and

798
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: it's a fight somewhere in battle World, like a tournament

799
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: kind of style thing. Or is it a combination of

800
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: the two. That's the That's the question I have, and

801
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if they don't really know

802
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: which way they're going.

803
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 4: To they you know, FIU was talking about how they

804
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 4: were having the meeting recently, the ten year Planning meeting

805
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 4: and everything, So I think that's where that's I think

806
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 4: Secret Wars make sense because I believe that that was

807
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 4: also the first event that had like the Avengers and

808
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 4: the X Men and everyone together this and Marvel likes

809
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 4: to throw back to that kind of stuff. So I

810
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 4: think that could be a cool thing. But it's like

811
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 4: you said, how would it be done? I think you

812
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 4: might have to do going to that kind of Days

813
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 4: of Future Past style era. I think you might have

814
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 4: to do something where if you introduce a version of

815
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: the X Men, it's like two X Men who survived

816
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 4: a mutant genocide in a different multiverse and then they

817
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 4: come here. Because, like you said, otherwise, we talk about

818
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 4: this all the time every week we're like, how do

819
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 4: they introduce the world where Muans are hated and feared

820
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 4: to the point where the X Men story becomes relevant?

821
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 4: Because that is not something.

822
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: Because that's the thing you need, right because you know,

823
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: there's there's powered people that exists now. They're running around

824
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: allready as a musical and and people love them and

825
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: and and are you know, admire them deeply and are

826
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: inspired by them. But how so, how do you make

827
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: it so? And I think they've they've been they've been

828
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: making they've been making inroads towards this. How do you

829
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: make it so people are like, you know what, now,

830
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: we don't trust them, especially if they're born that way.

831
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 7: I think the interestingly, the redaction Cody should be here,

832
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 7: Cody come back, the reduction of the Sokovia Accords, I

833
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 7: think could come to play a huge part in that

834
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 7: because here's this idea of Okay, you saved us and

835
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 7: we were all super grateful for that. That was awesome.

836
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: She dropped, by the way, what was just kind of

837
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: like thrown in there, Like I believe that on ind

838
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: of you.

839
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 4: Cody was like that was something like Jessica was just like, hey,

840
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 4: how about it like redact the Sekovia Accords, and.

841
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 7: They were like, sure, no problem. Like that's a huge,

842
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 7: huge implications because you know, it ultimately frees every superpowered

843
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 7: being or person who wants to put on a suit

844
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 7: to go out and do whatever they want to, and

845
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 7: essentially you've sort of legalized vigilanteism.

846
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 4: And I also think it frees up the space to

847
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 4: do a real mutant registration storyline, because the version we

848
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 4: saw in Civil War was very like Tony based, very

849
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 4: grounded in the MCU, very still messed up the idea

850
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 4: of having to register people because of powers or anything.

851
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 4: But I think that you're right. It opens up the

852
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 4: floodgates not just in the world of the MCU, but

853
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 4: also narratively.

854
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: Well kind of forever as well. It's quite clear that

855
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: the Contesta is putting together, as we've said on the pod,

856
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: the superhero team that just follows orders, Yeah, that is

857
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 1: that won't go rogues, that won't go on. I don't

858
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: know about this because a lot of people are gonna die.

859
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: We're not going to do that. They want the team

860
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: that will just go in there and do whatever she

861
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: orders them to do. And I think that is going

862
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: to be a step towards this kind of whether it's

863
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: mutant registration or a conflict between the official government heroes

864
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: and the more off the books heroes like mutants. If

865
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: they if they introduce them, I think it's it's set

866
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: up pretty well coming off of Yeah, I.

867
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 4: Think you're right, because also I think it's a really

868
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 4: interesting two way street between the notion of the militarization

869
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 4: of superheroes, which is kind of ironic because the MCU

870
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 4: superos are really militarized already, but but a more obvious

871
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 4: like official militarization, and then the arrival of ney More

872
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 4: and that is that's gonna spread The man with winged

873
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 4: feet flooded a sovereign nation state, and that is going

874
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 4: to make people freak out and start thinking, oh, is

875
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 4: that is he a mutant? Well, it's a mutant.

876
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 7: And we have got to explore these oceans.

877
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 4: What is going on? Things rising from.

878
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 7: The ground and in secret society than god knows what else,

879
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 7: Like it's it's interesting. In the Guardians of the Galaxy special,

880
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 7: I was watching with my brother and when the ship

881
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 7: came in, you know, a lot of people were sort

882
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 7: of critiquing the fear humans had when they saw the

883
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 7: spaceship and they were like, at this point they've seen

884
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 7: so many aliens, why are they afraid. I'm like, the

885
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 7: last time.

886
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 4: It wasn't good.

887
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 7: It was terrible. Okay, it was not good at all,

888
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 7: And so I really like the idea of not only

889
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 7: is there an alien world above them, but also below them,

890
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 7: and that sort of stoking the fear of like, we

891
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 7: need to get some control over this. And it'll also

892
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 7: be interesting, you know once the Secret Wars plays out,

893
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 7: like how secret does that stay at the end of

894
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 7: the show.

895
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 4: So what is the outcome of Secret Wars? Is Secret

896
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 4: Wars gonna make everything one universe? Again? Is it gonna

897
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 4: be a situation where we have multiple different kind of universes?

898
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 4: That's probably very intrinsically connected to whatever DC decides to do.

899
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 4: I think because I think like that, I think the

900
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 4: competitive nature of them will be like, well, does it

901
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 4: make sense for us to just have one universe? Or

902
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 4: wait a minute, after Secret Wars, we have an animated universe,

903
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 4: we have a TV universe, we have a movie universe,

904
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 4: but they're all kind of connected. So I think that

905
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 4: I think that it will be interesting to see. And

906
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 4: obviously we have another secret coming first, which is Secret Invasion,

907
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 4: where we're going to get into the scrolls. So I

908
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 4: mean there's all kind of secrets.

909
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 1: You mentioned the the Guardians of the Alexey Holiday special,

910
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 1: so we should ask the implications of Mantis and Peter

911
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: being revealed as siblings. Yes, that was like I was like, wait,

912
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: what why you talk about and You're just going to

913
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: talk about this now.

914
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 4: I'm reading like every single comic book and I'm like,

915
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 4: this is this never existed? I do love that. How

916
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 4: the TV stuff, it seems like there's a lot more

917
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 4: freedom to introduce canon ideas that maybe are a little

918
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 4: bit more out there than the movies. The implications of

919
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 4: that I think are huge because it means we new

920
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 4: Mantis was very powerful, but she's now immensely powerful, one

921
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 4: of the only children of Ego who survived his genocide

922
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 4: of his own children. And obviously, I think, like James

923
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 4: Gunn has always talked about how Mantis is one of

924
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 4: his favorite characters, and I didn't really feel that until

925
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 4: this special.

926
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 7: She really got to come like yeah, and I.

927
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 4: Think that we will get to see the centering. We

928
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 4: saw this in the new trailer right the gun Is

929
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 4: See three trailer. Chris, our super producer, had made a

930
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 4: really good point where he was basically saying, oh, no,

931
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 4: I think it was Saul. Actually he was telling us

932
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 4: that like Rocket is a really another fan favorite character

933
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 4: of James Gunn's. And so I think that that we're

934
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 4: going to see Mantis and Rocket becoming more to the

935
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 4: four than Peter Quill. I think that this puts Mantis

936
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 4: on equal footing with Peter, and we'll kind of squish

937
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 4: star Lord away, especially now we've had the best version

938
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 4: of star Lord, which was to Charlie star Ward, no

939
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 4: one else to see how the Starr.

940
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: I need to see how many movies Chris Prett has

941
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: left on his contract. But I think that you're right

942
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: right Well.

943
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 4: Got into the Galaxy is allegedly the close of this

944
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 4: era of the team, and like every team, there's many

945
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 4: different iterations.

946
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: So and so we should ask now that we've mentioned

947
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 1: Guardians of the Galaxy three as not only our number

948
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: one Eternalist lover, but but our number one Mount Wondergore lover,

949
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 1: the high evolutionary.

950
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 4: Wow, couldn't believe it. Here he's here. I love the

951
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 4: cast New Men. He looks here, the New Men here.

952
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 4: I mean, that's one of the wildest things about this

953
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 4: movie is I I do talk about Mount Wondergore a lot.

954
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 4: I love Mount Undergore. I actually screamed in the screening

955
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 4: of of not Ass and Madness when they said Mount Wondergore,

956
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 4: and then I got like, I got like ten different

957
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 4: texts from people being like that was you. It wasn't that,

958
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 4: I know that was you, and I was like, oh,

959
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 4: it was me. Thanks, thanks for seeing me and my passions.

960
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 4: But no, I do believe after the end of of

961
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 4: mortif Us Madness, Mount wondergoand currently not in a good

962
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 4: position for Old Herbert to be to be there with

963
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 4: the New Men. So I think I think what we're

964
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 4: seeing in that very cool unexpected trailer is a counter earth,

965
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 4: which is where he goes afterwards with the New Men.

966
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 4: And I think that obviously what we see in the

967
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 4: comics the New Men are this. They're genetically modified men

968
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 4: and animals who the higher evolutionary created in this strange experiment.

969
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 4: That's how he got Bova, who raised Scarlet Witch and

970
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 4: her brother in some iterations of the comics, one of

971
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 4: my all time favorite characters. And I think that that's

972
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 4: what we're seeing here. I have to say I was

973
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 4: blown away by how good they look. I guess I

974
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 4: should agree because Rocket exists, and I think they're going

975
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 4: to connect Rocket.

976
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 7: It's to the new Men.

977
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: It felt very clearly like Rocket is going to be

978
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: like in early the first Yeah, maybe it maybe created

979
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: on Mount Wondergorre before her had to move out, and

980
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: also maybe created by Herbert instead of the High you know,

981
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: maybe it's like it's it's Herbert before High Evolutionary.

982
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 4: I'm very interested. I also didn't expect it to look

983
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 4: so sad.

984
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 7: It looks very I was like, if I cry harder

985
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 7: here than I did in Wakonda Forever, I don't know

986
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 7: what I'm gonna do, Like I.

987
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 4: Got trying to drain you just there's that.

988
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 7: Shot of Peter where it looks like he might be

989
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 7: looking over someone's like hospital bed and he's just freaking out.

990
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 7: And like you can say many things about Chris Praba

991
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 7: when that guy's sad on screen, you're sad in your heart.

992
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 7: You're like, oh, what's happening?

993
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 4: Like you can sell being sad. Yeah.

994
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 7: And then what also is interesting about that movie is

995
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 7: we get twenty fourteen Gomorra in there. Oh yeah, obsessed

996
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 7: with Like Zoe Saldana has been doing these franchises for

997
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 7: so long. She knows how to carry an action scene,

998
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 7: and I love that they're like just letting her loop

999
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 7: right back into being a mercenary and going full out there.

1000
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 4: And I think it's really cool because it feels like

1001
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 4: it's not it's not ever that you want movies to

1002
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 4: like reflect the things that you want. All the complaints

1003
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 4: that fans have. That is a conversation that's always going on.

1004
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 4: But I love the idea that we can escape out

1005
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 4: of themora being defined by p equill And in her

1006
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 4: relationship and instead have more on her own. Maybe Peter

1007
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 4: will sacrifice himself for his beloved found family. I wouldn't

1008
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 4: be sad about it, like maybe in the movie I would.

1009
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 7: But is Gonna Die?

1010
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 4: That was hard.

1011
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 7: I'm the I don't want it, But I think given

1012
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 7: how much they're doing with Groot right now and the

1013
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 7: fact that original group, sacrifices himself and disgusting, and then

1014
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 7: he raises his son, and that was son's kind of

1015
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 7: an age where he can be independent and take care

1016
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 7: of himself. I do think that we're gonna this is

1017
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 7: going to be the end of my That's.

1018
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 4: Some real story, so good business.

1019
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 1: I mean, when Rocket is freeing and hugging that otter,

1020
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: that is gonna be heart wrenching.

1021
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 7: Cute animals in love with tragic backstories. I don't they

1022
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 7: look so good?

1023
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 4: And yeah, I'm very excited to see it, especially because

1024
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 4: the for me, I thought the Gods Holiday Special is

1025
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 4: like probably my favorite God's thing. I've always found him.

1026
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 4: I've found it a bit hard to connect with them

1027
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 4: in the same way as some of the other MCU stuff.

1028
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 4: But I'm really excited to see that, especially as well

1029
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 4: because we're not even mentioning, like, look, I love the

1030
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 4: High Volutionary and I love the New Men, but really

1031
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 4: the biggest thing in that trailer is Adam Warlock.

1032
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean it looked the gold Boy,

1033
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: the Golden Boy, Jesus himself.

1034
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 11: Yeah, James, Jesus, Marvel Jesus.

1035
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: How do you think they're going to utilize Adam Warlock

1036
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: in this one of the weirdest, if not the weirdest,

1037
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: in the Mixed character of Marvel.

1038
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 4: And also one of the most missing out of the MCU,

1039
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 4: considering the characters that they view like Warlock and Thanos

1040
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 4: are so intrinsically connected, and to not have him in

1041
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 4: there was always weird. But Thanos was kind of as

1042
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 4: weird as the MCU could get. So I'm very excited.

1043
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 4: I'm excited there looks like they just painted will Polter Gold.

1044
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 4: I respect that. I'm like, please, I don't need a

1045
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 4: CG face, Like, just paint him.

1046
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 2: God.

1047
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 4: I think he is going to be a really big

1048
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 4: part of the next couple of phases. It makes a

1049
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 4: lot of sense with things going so cosmic. I'm very interested.

1050
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 4: To me if Adam Warlock is back. I feel like

1051
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 4: we're backing in Infinity Gems Infinity Stone scenario. I feel

1052
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 4: like there's no way that they're not in play. But

1053
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 4: maybe he's there for the Eternals. Maybe he's there. You know,

1054
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 4: he's deeply connected to star Fox. That's another character, So

1055
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 4: there's different ways that they can bring him in. But

1056
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 4: I was interested to see him beating up Moore it

1057
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 4: seems like I'm assuming at the end of Guardians the

1058
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 4: Galaxy two in the Stinger, I believe is where he

1059
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 4: first turned up, and she was like, we'll name him Adam.

1060
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 4: I'm guessing Herbert has raised Adam Warlock. That's kind of

1061
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 4: what the High Volutionary raised. Adam Warlock is kind of

1062
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 4: his little bodyguard or something. He's beating up more and

1063
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 4: then we'll find out he's actually this immensely powerful, you know,

1064
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:49,959
Speaker 4: cosmic being.

1065
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 7: I'm concerned that they're going to go agore the god

1066
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 7: Butcher thing where he has this like and then it's

1067
00:50:55,640 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 7: just quick snap an interesting larger platform for the Novacre

1068
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 7: to come in, which I wouldn't mind. We've seen them,

1069
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 7: you know. Yeah, They've popped up in every Guardens of

1070
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 7: the Galaxy movie in some way.

1071
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so I well, Whinding Nova is a we

1072
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 4: were kind of talking about this. I guess we're gonna

1073
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 4: we're gonna run out of time for questions, so we'll stop.

1074
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 4: If you have questions, just keep it in mind because

1075
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 4: we're gonna have time to do them. That kind of

1076
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 4: leans in who are the biggest people that haven't been

1077
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 4: introduced yet that you think I think Nova is one

1078
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 4: of them, and they know, like actual Nova, the hero

1079
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 4: Mars Morales, that's like the other.

1080
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: Big Sadly with Nova, it's like Nova's at his best

1081
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: when everybody is dead, you know, just kind of what

1082
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: we need from Nova. Like if they if they maybe

1083
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: that secret was Yeah, if they do that, it'd be

1084
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, we'd have to watch the novacore basically completely

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00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: wiped out.

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00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 4: And they kind of hint at that in Bodiance, right,

1087
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 4: you get a hint of that, like that that a

1088
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 4: lot of them were destroyed. And but I'm very interested.

1089
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 4: That's like one of the biggest.

1090
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: One more thing with me before we go to questions

1091
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: about the Guardian's Holiday special, I think one of Obviously

1092
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:16,959
Speaker 1: Peter and Mantis's relationship is the most canon altering thing

1093
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: that happened there. I think the second most cannon altering

1094
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: thing is like Drax can't knock out a guy in

1095
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: a gobot so tracks like incredibly durable, Like he can

1096
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: go through space without as.

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00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 4: He was getting shot with like rifle he.

1098
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: Can get and he can get like thrown through a mountain,

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00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: but he can't one shot a guy in a gobot costume.

1100
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 4: And also they said you know Mantis says gobots killed

1101
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 4: his parents, So I'm like, maybe that guy was a

1102
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 4: real gobalt. Maybe that's why he couldn't punch him out.

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00:52:55,640 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: When we're back more comic con.

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Speaker 1: does anything they want to talk about, any kind of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on up. I think we can.

1136
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I wish that was like this done. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's casual, it's it's la.

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Speaker 3: Something I was thinking about with this season, Hi, Jeff,

1139
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 3: my first comic con. Actually way, something I was thinking

1140
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 3: about for this, uh, this past phase and for the

1141
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 3: new phase is the connectivity issue where we saw from

1142
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 3: the snap and the blip and that that came through

1143
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 3: in many other of the new films and even the

1144
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 3: TV series and uh in great ways one division and

1145
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 3: and really seeing a very visceral moment of that, of

1146
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 3: that blip back and it really connected us through in

1147
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 3: that through line. Something you mentioned about the Celestials sitting

1148
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 3: out there in the ocean, and I feel like that was.

1149
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 4: A real big missed opportunity.

1150
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 2: Where is it.

1151
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 9: Line in there somewhere to mention it. It can be comic,

1152
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 9: it can be visceral, it can be something. And are

1153
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 9: we going to see a return to that connectivity. I

1154
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 9: know COVID probably messed up some timelines and some some

1155
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 9: release dates. Maybe they wanted to shy away from that,

1156
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 9: but are we going to get that.

1157
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 4: Connectivity about she Hulk did it?

1158
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 1: But you would have expected more?

1159
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, she in she Hulked. There's a there's a blink

1160
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 4: and you'll miss it moment on a computer screen where

1161
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 4: they're like, what's up with the bigger time? It's not

1162
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 4: a verbal thing. And I do think I think connectivity,

1163
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 4: Even though I loved the varied eclecticness of this phase,

1164
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 4: the connectivity is a big issue because think about Moonlight.

1165
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 4: I don't think there's any mention of the blip. I

1166
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 4: don't think there's any mention of anything apart from like

1167
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 4: a bus that goes in the background that's connected to

1168
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 4: the grouping uh in Falcon the Winter Soldier who are

1169
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 4: maybe trying to rehouse people after the blip. I think

1170
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 4: that COVID you probably called it because also I don't

1171
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 4: think all those things were supposed to come out at

1172
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 4: the same time. You know, this kind of messed up

1173
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 4: the outline. I think they know that that is the

1174
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 4: thing that got fans took the thing like Joelle mentioned,

1175
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 4: you know this, Oh there's some weird hammer in this desert.

1176
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: And a comic thing.

1177
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's what It's why people love comics. So I

1178
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 4: definitely think that will be a large part of Phase

1179
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 4: five going forward, and just little things like there's easy

1180
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 4: ways to do it, you know, there's easy ways to

1181
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 4: build in Easter eggs and jokes and nods to the world.

1182
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 4: That makes it feel like one thing. And I think

1183
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 4: for fans that's a that's a really big thing. So

1184
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 4: my got would say Phase five is gonna lean back

1185
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 4: into that in a in a serious way.

1186
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 7: We have to revisit it. I look forward to meeting

1187
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 7: the Human Cult that formed underneath this guy. I feel

1188
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 7: like there's no way a group of humans didn't go,

1189
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 7: oh that's the future.

1190
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 4: Yeah God yeah.

1191
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 7: Like worship that thing, Like what's happening?

1192
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 4: Is it gonna become an Avengers headquarters?

1193
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 7: Like please place for the Fantastic Four to be, like

1194
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 7: we do our science over here?

1195
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 2: Like what is this?

1196
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 4: Where did they come from?

1197
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 7: What does it mean? Like there's just there's too many

1198
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 7: questions that we have around it for the universe not

1199
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 7: to hopefully sooner rather than later address it. Because it

1200
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 7: is a giant.

1201
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: Like it's literally a giant giant man in ocean?

1202
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 7: What does this mean that there are extraterrestrials terrif wear

1203
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 7: being our planet? And and does that make again going

1204
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 7: back to the Sokovia Accords and how people are gonna

1205
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 7: react to eating how much more unsafe do we feel

1206
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 7: knowing that that was put here and that literally the

1207
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 7: Earth almost got destroyed? And I don't know if people

1208
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 7: have made that you know, conclusion yet, but to some

1209
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 7: extent again, like we're gonna have to go down there. Also,

1210
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 7: did it fuck with Landians? Like I need to know?

1211
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 4: Like excuse me? Yeah, what is it?

1212
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 7: Uh?

1213
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: In that in that vein. I think that Secret Invasion

1214
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: is going to be an important project because I think

1215
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: it's going to ramp up the paranoia of the people

1216
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: of Earth, the population of Earth who've been through multiple invasions.

1217
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 4: Now these people with scrawls.

1218
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: When they were we knew that aliens were coming, but

1219
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: now that they're already here and they're potentially like the

1220
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: President or like the Secondary of Defense.

1221
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 4: Or probably the new head of the FBI or the

1222
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 4: CIA or whoever Valerie.

1223
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: Like potentially like a scroll. Like, So I think that is.

1224
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 7: Going to be a human I'll be so mad if

1225
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 7: she's a scroll because she just is like a perfect

1226
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 7: embodiment of government.

1227
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, who's the scroll?

1228
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: Because there's gotta be who's the scroll? Now, who's a scroll?

1229
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 7: Because they got, uh, what's his they can think of that.

1230
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 4: Well. Well, I think that the big casting they did

1231
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 4: recently was recasting Harrison Ford as Thunderbolt Ross. So that

1232
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 4: to me says he's probably going to be a scroll,

1233
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 4: because otherwise I would have been like, just let him

1234
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 4: be dead or just have right. Also, your your your

1235
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 4: scroll theory that you brought up on the podcast is

1236
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 4: my favorite one, which is Maria Hill, because I think

1237
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 4: that is such a safe bet for them.

1238
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 7: I don't.

1239
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 4: I am always a fan of the Hawkeye as a

1240
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 4: scroll theory because I hate Hawkeye, not Kate Bisher. Kate

1241
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 4: Bishop is great, you know, I love Kate Bishop. But

1242
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 4: I was always saying that Jeremy Renner is a scroll.

1243
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 4: But I don't know. You know, if you've spoken a

1244
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 4: lot about being a small scale story, which I think

1245
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 4: kind of helps them avoid the connectivity shoe. Oh, it's intimate,

1246
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 4: it's a spy story. It's this. So I don't know

1247
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 4: if they're going to go big with the scrolls. So

1248
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 4: I think it's more likely that it's these high empower

1249
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 4: in government people who are going to be the scrolls,

1250
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 4: rather than say, you know, Spider Man.

1251
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 7: They have to give us one or.

1252
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: Two, like folks following I got, I got one more,

1253
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: I got one more? Kingpins now and why he didn't die?

1254
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 7: You might know his wrestle from New Girl I love

1255
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 7: he's playing the president.

1256
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, he's definitely.

1257
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 10: That.

1258
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 4: I seen him. He's that's a man who looks like

1259
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 4: he's playing a scroll.

1260
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: Anyone else would like to step up, take the mic

1261
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: and ask the questions or or put forward a theory. Yes,

1262
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: if you.

1263
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 4: Want, you can like queue up in the middle if

1264
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:54,479
Speaker 4: you want, so it's easy.

1265
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: Oh, long time listener and introduce yourself.

1266
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 2: Nick.

1267
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: Hello, You're gonna be your name on the probably gonna

1268
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: get it on the record.

1269
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 7: It's got a dope Snorlax necklace.

1270
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you.

1271
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 6: So what I'm wondering is we're talking about we just

1272
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 6: had phase four, we're looking at five and six. What

1273
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 6: do you think will not show up? What do you

1274
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 6: think is maybe too weird or too much of a

1275
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 6: push for them that they just can't fit it in for.

1276
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: Phases five and six.

1277
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think.

1278
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 7: You're getting the X Men about gosh who I'm trying

1279
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 7: to think of, like who does it feel like they

1280
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 7: might be seeing up? But there's a slim chance they

1281
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 7: actually I.

1282
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 4: Think, you know what, this is gonna make me feel

1283
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 4: sad because I don't want this to be true. But

1284
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 4: I think that I don't think we're going to see

1285
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 4: Galactus in the Silver Sofa until like we get to

1286
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 4: the X Men era, because with that, no, I love

1287
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 4: Galactus and I love the silvera I I think I

1288
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 4: had rumors we're going to do a Silver Surfer special presentation,

1289
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 4: which I think makes a lot of sense and norm

1290
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 4: rad like. But I think that when the Fantastic Four

1291
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 4: come in, which is going to be in this phase

1292
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 4: five and six, I think we'll get Doom. I think

1293
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 4: that's gonna be your big focus. You do the big Doom,

1294
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 4: so it's so you stay away from the more cosmic

1295
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 4: aspects and you just focus on that.

1296
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 7: It's one of the last major secret societies that we

1297
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 7: have to do uncovered, like Doom and its people. It

1298
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 7: makes sense that before the end of phase six we

1299
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Speaker 7: get Doom. Also, do have so much stuff going on

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Speaker 7: with Wakanda, and now the Tall CON's kind of involved, like, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Name more Doom, T'Challa. That's like a trio, you know.

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Speaker 7: So so I'm ready for it.

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Speaker 1: I just need a I just need a heartfelt you

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Speaker 1: dare from?

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Speaker 7: Where would you like to see Doom introduced? Like who's movie?

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Speaker 7: We're heroes?

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Speaker 4: I still think I think there is a version. I

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Speaker 4: believe that there's a version of what kind of Forever

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Speaker 4: that had a second that was meant to have a

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Speaker 4: second stinger that would have been Doomed. That was I

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Speaker 4: think that would have been the original version of Wakinda

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Speaker 4: forever before we lost Chadwick tragically, because it makes and

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Speaker 4: I think like you can have this idea that Doom

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Speaker 4: is the Machiavellian puppet master, and but I love the

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Speaker 4: way they did it. But I now I'm not really

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Speaker 4: sure where Doom or Sharp. I mean, I still think

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Speaker 4: that where Moonnight was was Latvria in in the in

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Speaker 4: the show, and he went to the place it looked

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Speaker 4: directly like a drawing from a from a Fantastic four comic.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, juson where would you want Doom to show up,

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Speaker 4: because I think that's a big question going.

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Speaker 1: Forward, somewhere in our our conflicts with King over the

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Speaker 1: next phase, I think we will. That seems to me

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Speaker 1: like the most obvious place to introduce it.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 7: I love the Doomed Doctor Strange teum up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's one of the best.

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Speaker 4: Well, that would make a lot of sense with Doctor

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Speaker 4: Strange and Clear now being out there in the kind

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Speaker 4: of universe in the multiverse, that's not going to be

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Speaker 4: hard for them to join that to the quantum realm.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean we didn't even really get into that,

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Speaker 4: but I think you're right, Kang. The connection to read

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Speaker 4: and Reads family. It would make a lot of sense

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Speaker 4: to have Kang and Doom. It would actually be pretty

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Speaker 4: cool to introduce both those major villains before you even

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Speaker 4: got to ever meet the Fantastic Four.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a world too where, you know, we've

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Speaker 1: been talking a lot about the most recent Secret Wars,

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Speaker 1: in which you know, Doom kind of recalls the Emperor

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Speaker 1: do God, Emperor Doom recreates his version of the universe

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Speaker 1: that he controls. You know, this is absolutely like a

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01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: crackpot theory, but the best kind, the best kind. But

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Speaker 1: there's also a world I think where you're right where

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Speaker 1: the Doom already exists. They introduce him before the Fantastic Four,

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Speaker 1: and the MC that we're seeing right now is the

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Speaker 1: universe controlled by Oh.

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Speaker 4: I love that. I hope they do that. That's really great. Well,

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Speaker 4: it would also that gives you a lot of great

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Speaker 4: narrative gouts. Why don't things feel as connected anymore? Why

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Speaker 4: did Phase four feel so different? Oh, it's because the

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01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 4: as this one person controlling it who's making all these

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Speaker 4: different things happen at the same time. To get to this,

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 1: Anyone else.

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Speaker 4: Oh oh oh, I was like, is it long enough

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01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 4: to just sit back down.

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Speaker 2: Hey, what are you feel? I feel good?

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Speaker 1: How are you introduce yourself?

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Speaker 7: Please?

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Speaker 3: Okay, you know I am so.

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Speaker 2: On Secrete Wars. Uh. I feel like.

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Speaker 12: My job here is just mess up your whole program. Okay,

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Speaker 12: you didn't say a name that I think is very

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Speaker 12: important to say when you speak of the Secret Wars.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 12: And especially because they recently brought him back in the

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Speaker 12: Defenders and the New Defenders, they're using different cast of

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Speaker 12: characters the Beyonder. Oh yeah, so I think that that's

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Speaker 12: where they're going, because you were talking about how they

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Speaker 12: in the comics.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, to be would be amazing. I mean we were

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Speaker 4: talking about I think when we were we were really

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Speaker 4: deep in the It's been a year of theories, right.

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01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 4: Because of that, there's been so much stuff on the TV. Look,

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Speaker 4: I know you're sick of hearing it. I apologize for

1377
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 4: mephist though that was my fault. I'm sorry about it. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I wish I could take back the damage that I

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01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 4: have done. I'm sorry. But but because of that, we

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Speaker 4: have talked so much. We were all about the Beyond that.

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Speaker 4: I think it was when No Way Home was coming

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Speaker 4: out and we were like, who is behind this crazy

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Speaker 4: like multiverse thing that's happening at the end where all

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Speaker 4: these universes are coming together. We didn't We hadn't seen

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Speaker 4: the movie with theorists, and the Beyond was one of

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Speaker 4: our go to touch points. I think that is bang on,

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Speaker 4: and I think that is the weirdness that we expect.

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Speaker 1: Quick download on the on the beyonder for those not

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Speaker 1: versed in original Secret Wars, are kind of parachute pants

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01:06:54,200 --> 01:07:01,919
Speaker 1: wearing uh mullet perm. No, No, you're not, you're I mean, yeah,

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01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: he's just he's, you know, a very very bored.

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Speaker 8: This guys mission super being who becomes fixated on Earth

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01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 8: and you know, as this kind of gathering point for

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01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 8: incredible heroes that have numerous times, you know, staved off

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01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 8: not just threats to their own world, but threats to

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Speaker 8: the galaxy, threats the universe.

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Speaker 1: And he becomes enamored with them, and he decides to

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Speaker 1: know more about birth people, and so he takes the

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Speaker 1: It takes the form of like a human with like

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Speaker 1: a like a perm mullet and like a white the mullet. Yeah,

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01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: and he just decides, I'm going to gather up all

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Speaker 1: the superheroes. I'm gonna make him fight, which you know,

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01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 1: great idea.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, that is absolutely the truth, And what if

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01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 4: you did so look, I love the beyond that. I

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01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 4: think they don't do enough like which human alter egoes

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01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 4: for these characters. I would love to see that. Well

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Speaker 4: if they did like a Kuma Ta special presentation and

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01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 4: it's just the Beyonder getting like low level heroes that

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01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 4: we've met in like She Hulk and stuff to fight

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01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 4: because they're never gonna let us do it with that

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01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 4: main heroes. But what if the Beyonder like the first

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01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 4: because I.

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Speaker 1: Want that to be the next Shank right, because I

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01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 1: want that to be the next shang t movie.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, god, that would be great call. Actually, well,

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01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 4: imagine if they be exactly you know, we get Danny

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01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 4: Rand gets brought in, they beat up that that Danny Rand,

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01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 4: and then we learn who the real iron Fist was.

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01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 4: Obviously it's Colleen, We've already seen her that we know

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01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 4: it is, or you know the many iron fists that

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01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 4: they obviously introduced in shang Chi but just didn't say

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01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 4: they were iron fists. No, I love that idea. Imagine

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01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 4: if they Beyonder in shang Chi to you know, if

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01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 4: he shang Chi to Kuma.

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01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 11: Tay uh, if he's just like a fight promoter who's like,

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01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 11: I'm putting I heard about these underground fight rings and

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01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 11: you learn that that's what it is, and that could

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01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 11: lead to see because we also don't actually know what's.

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01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 4: Going to lead there, and I think that's the funniest thing.

1431
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 4: So I think the beyond there is a massive that's

1432
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 4: going to be the weirdness we do get in five

1433
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 4: and six. And also I think that that could also

1434
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 4: we could see him sooner in quantum realm. I think

1435
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 4: that that is a name we could start to hear,

1436
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 4: almost like fanos before we're but yeah, shang Chi Kumite,

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01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 4: I dream of that.

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01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 7: Love it anyone and anyone else?

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01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 1: Any other questions any.

1440
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,799
Speaker 7: Yeah you can see repeated?

1441
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.

1442
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 7: So Dorian, founder of Geeks of Color, has added us,

1443
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 7: what do we think about the tweet that occurred from

1444
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 7: a fan account that is miss Minutes that then interacted

1445
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 7: with who did interact.

1446
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 4: So dead it was it was a Mismnutes account that

1447
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 4: interacted with Deadpool and people were like, okay, does this

1448
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 4: mean Deadpool is going to be in Loki to be

1449
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 4: with Ryan's direct account. Yeah, and it was like official,

1450
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 4: like Deadpool. There was a lot of it became a

1451
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 4: very big like oh this feels like you know, Ryan Reynolds'

1452
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 4: social media is never a coincidence.

1453
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 1: Those choices, the very like casual, Oh, we're just we

1454
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: just threw together a Deadpool trailer. Look at this.

1455
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 8: Well, I will say that is it's all according to

1456
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 8: a very specific.

1457
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 4: The one thing that we didn't talk about that I

1458
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,560
Speaker 4: think is very key to what's going forward is Deadpool

1459
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 4: as a tool to basically connect to and destroy the

1460
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 4: Fox Universe. So I would not be surprised if low

1461
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 4: key with the TVA. I mean, I just thought of

1462
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 4: this the other day after seeing that tweet. But I

1463
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 4: was like, what if the TVA just hired Deadpool to

1464
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 4: kill all of the people in the Fox universe.

1465
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 7: They were like, they were like, we don't.

1466
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 4: They were like, we don't have enough people. We don't

1467
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 4: have enough TVA gods like and that's your r rated Deadpool.

1468
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 4: Deadpool kills the Fox universe, you know, because they can't.

1469
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 4: They don't have enough people to to cut all the

1470
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 4: streams anymore, you know. So I was like I think

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Speaker 4: it could happen more likely, what's it gonna be Probably

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Speaker 4: gonna be like a Deadpool mask on one of the

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01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 4: TVA you know desks. But I like your idea.

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01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 7: That's honestly so good, right, They're so good at like

1475
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 7: montages too in the Deadpool universe, and like I could

1476
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 7: just imagine like beast dying devastating, but when he gets

1477
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 7: to the Phoenix, like how does Deadpool take out the Phoenix?

1478
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 7: Like that would just be fun?

1479
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 4: And also Deadpool with the Phoenix force like also like

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01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 4: can I just say Jesus Christ, please God, no, no,

1481
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 4: I'm saying, do you know who would be really really

1482
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 4: useful if you are trying to kill a bunch of

1483
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 4: really powerful moments? Wolverine, who defe is going to be

1484
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,719
Speaker 4: in this third you know, the R rated movie where.

1485
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 7: How do you get Wolverine to go along killing all

1486
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 7: of his experts?

1487
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 4: Just be like just be like, oh the universe, Fate

1488
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 4: of the University, they do it.

1489
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 7: Every way, they always do it.

1490
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: You trick them into killing everybody.

1491
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 4: These are not these are actually they're actually people send

1492
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 4: her to kill uh kill Laura Kenney. You better just

1493
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 4: kill them all?

1494
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 7: Works every single time through all his friends, the road

1495
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 7: Trip that R rated road Trip movie.

1496
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 4: No one is expecting it's just I'm just murdering everyone.

1497
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 4: But I think that I don't think it's ever a coincidence.

1498
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 4: I think they're very on top of all that, and

1499
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 4: they and even if it was just fun, they want

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01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 4: people to talk about it. They want people to ask

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01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 4: about it and talk about it and stuff like this,

1502
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 4: because that's what makes people excited. It's the same way

1503
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 4: with a comic. We used to finish the comic and

1504
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 4: you knew the next one wasn't coming out till the

1505
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 4: next week, and you're talking to your friends, Oh, what's

1506
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 4: going to happen? Who's it going to be? And that's

1507
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 4: just what we do now with these movies.

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01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 1: You know, Well, I think the cool thing about Deadpool

1509
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 1: and you kind of hit on a really fun thing

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01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 1: about him that they do in the which is he's

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01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 1: essentially his healing factor makes him basically immortal. Yeah, you

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01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: could have him survive, you know, the collapse of the multiverses,

1513
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 1: like he's still alive somehow, you could have how would

1514
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:19,719
Speaker 1: he fight chances to fight Phoenix because he can't.

1515
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 4: It's just one movie trying to kill a fox.

1516
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: Piece of his skull left like he's still going somehow.

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01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 4: So I think that there are a lot.

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01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 1: Of interesting implications once they bring once they bring Deadpool

1519
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 1: in the universe, I hope he never gets the Phoenix

1520
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 1: for Jesus.

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01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 4: Correct, don't don't make it happen, guys, I'm sorry.

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01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 7: I think are there any other questions?

1523
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 4: This is rosy jumping in because one of our rad

1524
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 4: audience members asked whether or not we think they'll recast

1525
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 4: young To'challa, who he met in the Stinger of Black

1526
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 4: Panther Wakanda Forever as in Prince To'challa. Yes, one hundred.

1527
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 4: I believe there is some about the MCU. I won't

1528
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 4: get into the political ramifications of the strange heteronomativity that

1529
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 4: they're obsessed with at the moment, but they're loving to

1530
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 4: make people parents, m h and in the comics and

1531
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 4: the kids are not often direct legacy heroes, but that

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01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 4: seems to be where they're going with this. Thor has

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01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 4: a kid, now you know Wonder's kids. Obviously, Jeremy Renner

1534
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 4: has kids. We now see that as in the comics

1535
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 4: he's called Azzari. But in the movie, you know, with

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01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,879
Speaker 4: that Scott Scott kids who And we know that Cassie's

1537
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 4: gonna be statued well Stinger in the next movie, So

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01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 4: I think that absolutely we're gonna get another time jump.

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01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 4: We're gonna see that kid. And I think so there

1540
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 4: was this There's like a movie that I go back

1541
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 4: to a lot ever since the thor Stought was introduced,

1542
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,719
Speaker 4: called Next Avengers, and that was about all the kids

1543
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 4: of the Avengers. It was like an animated movie. You

1544
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:50,759
Speaker 4: think they would never draw from that, but it's literally

1545
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 4: about all these kids of the Avengers. I think that

1546
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 4: we are going to see many different teams, and I

1547
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 4: think we might get that Next Avengers team before our

1548
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 4: more classical Young Avengers, which was some reason they are

1549
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,759
Speaker 4: just holding off of and nobody knows why.

1550
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 7: I hope they don't recast. Here's why. I think it's

1551
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 7: really interesting.

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01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 4: We don't.

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01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:12,440
Speaker 7: We have so many like tweens to like young adults

1554
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 7: right now, so you love to see him be like,

1555
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 7: I'm the cutest kid. Don't fucking just keep it like

1556
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 7: he's adorable. If he could act, you have time to

1557
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:24,440
Speaker 7: train him to do all the action stuff like Next Avengers.

1558
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 4: As well, they are rolled like ten. So I think

1559
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 4: you could have that combination of the older team and the.

1560
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 7: Younger team and totally, totally he is very cute. Yeah,

1561
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 7: and I like the variety of ages because I think

1562
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 7: what we're getting from Marvel now it's like before it

1563
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 7: was like, here are all the popular genres that appeal

1564
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 7: to the most people and will apply it across our

1565
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 7: cinematical landscape. Now I feel like we're like, how niche

1566
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 7: can we go and what can we give to like children,

1567
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 7: young adults, adults, older people like I feel like there's

1568
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,759
Speaker 7: space enough that, you know, we could get a movie

1569
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 7: that's for like grade school kids.

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01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 4: I do actually think that the introduction of Love Thor's daughter,

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01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:06,480
Speaker 4: she is like seven, and she's like this omnipient superpowered

1572
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 4: kind of god. There's no reason that if Azari took

1573
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 4: a version of the heart shaped or had a super suit,

1574
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 4: that he couldn't be a small part of a team.

1575
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 4: Let's be real. In comics, kids have always been strange

1576
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 4: sidekicks in a very irresponsible way. Robin Yes adopts a

1577
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 4: thousand children and just turns them into little like bodyguards.

1578
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 4: So I like that. I like that read. I would

1579
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 4: like to see it. I like the idea that we

1580
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 4: could maybe see non animated superhero content for actual kids,

1581
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 4: and again could be in an academy, some kind of

1582
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 4: Avengers Academy or Strange Academy or something special.

1583
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 7: I'm here for it.

1584
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 1: Well, as we come to a close, not just for

1585
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 1: this panel, but for the year Everlasting, year twenty two,

1586
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 1: it's so long. I know. I'd love to hear from

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01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 1: the panel what their face. Favorite thing from twenty twenty

1588
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 1: two was, je I'm staring.

1589
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 7: With you, Okay, no pressure, it's two things, okay, okay,

1590
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 7: but I'll make them quick. Game of Thrones is back.

1591
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 7: How lucky are we?

1592
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 2: Wait?

1593
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 7: Television? I missed Deep Fury Corner with my friends. I

1594
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 7: missed like falling out of a chair, every birst scene.

1595
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 7: I stood up and walked away and then came back

1596
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 7: and walked away and then screamed and then text my parents,

1597
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 7: I'm like, are you watching? Did you see what's happening?

1598
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 7: I loved I love this like level of TV where

1599
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,600
Speaker 7: it's like you have to wait and you're going to

1600
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 7: be engaging online and it's going to Twitter and just

1601
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 7: talking to people like reacting as things are happening. And

1602
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 7: it brought it back for me in a really great way.

1603
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 4: I never imagined it would have like two of the

1604
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 4: best female Leaves.

1605
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:53,799
Speaker 2: Versions.

1606
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I was not sure how I would feel

1607
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 4: about it when it came back. But Raniera, you know,

1608
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 4: that duo of Raniera and Allison and the two people,

1609
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 4: and then the fact that the actors who play them

1610
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 4: are so charming. I just I'm so invested, and I

1611
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 4: just I will follow them anyway, even throughout the bits

1612
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 4: of the show where I'm like, like you said, like,

1613
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 4: what was your second one?

1614
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 7: Of course I've forgotten now, but oh no, no, here

1615
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 7: it is. Here, it is. We got my Batman on screen. Now,

1616
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 7: there are very many versions of Batman, and none of

1617
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 7: them is wrong unless he's holding a gun. I'm sorry,

1618
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 7: that's my opinion. But to get angsty Frank Miller, I

1619
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 7: hate Batman with a gun?

1620
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 4: Why so stupid?

1621
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,799
Speaker 7: But I love angsty. I'm not quite sure what's happening,

1622
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 7: but I'm gonna try really really hard. But I'm still

1623
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 7: good because I haven't been doing this for long enough

1624
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 7: to actually two years if I mean, it's literally what

1625
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 7: would happen if a billionaire decided he was gonna be

1626
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 7: a detective, he would suck up a lot.

1627
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 4: He would just sit back into a tray, into a

1628
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 4: train bridge and hit on the floor at this parachute.

1629
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, but the hits felt good. I loved the like

1630
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 7: sort of like military's costuming that had nothing really to

1631
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 7: do with like a military industrial complex, but it just

1632
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 7: felt like it felt like proper gear. And I love

1633
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 7: that he's just awkward around Catwoman. Like all of it

1634
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:14,839
Speaker 7: really good.

1635
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:16,679
Speaker 4: So great.

1636
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 7: I think I got them an actual city that you like,

1637
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 7: felt alive again on screen. And as much as I

1638
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 7: love seeing my city Chicago play for Gotham, I think

1639
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 7: Gotham needs to feel unique and for them to be like, Okay,

1640
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 7: we'll take a little bit of New York.

1641
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 4: A little atty, that's not the version that we want.

1642
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I really loved it. I'm excited for the

1643
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 7: Penguin series next year. I'm not holding out, like I'm

1644
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 7: not holding my breath for it, but it could be great,

1645
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 7: you know, I don't Colin was really good. He was

1646
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:46,680
Speaker 7: so good, and so you know, I want more of this.

1647
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 7: I wish we could have that girl, but you know, yeah,

1648
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 7: I'll take what I can get.

1649
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:54,799
Speaker 4: Rosie I was that was gonna be my I remember

1650
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 4: that this year has been twelve months longer because I

1651
01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:59,560
Speaker 4: couldn't believe the Batman came out, But seeing as you

1652
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 4: said it and it was great, my favorite thing of

1653
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two. I'm sure there's lots of other ones

1654
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 4: that I'm forgetting, but this one is very recent, so

1655
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 4: recentcy bias. I was lucky enough to watch all of

1656
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 4: Willow the new twoies apart from apart from the finale.

1657
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 4: Apart from the finale, but I would say I love

1658
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 4: the movie. Is one of my favorite movies. My incredible friends. Yeah,

1659
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 4: I actually like made me a shirt of Willow because

1660
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 4: I love it so much. The new series is so cute.

1661
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 4: It has Aaron Kellyman from Star Wars and the MCU

1662
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:32,759
Speaker 4: who's always getting terribly underwritten parts that don't do her justice,

1663
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 4: and she gets a brilliant role in this. You know,

1664
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 4: Warick Davis just does the best exactly what you wanted

1665
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 4: Warick Davis performance. It's really cozy, it's cute fantasy. So

1666
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 4: that's one of my favorite things from twenty twenty two.

1667
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 4: And the first two episodes are out now and you

1668
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 4: can watch the original movie, which is like super weird

1669
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 4: and scary.

1670
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 1: Mine is How's the Dragon I think was I'm just

1671
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: gonna sure I have it.

1672
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 2: It was.

1673
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: It was just great to get back in the world

1674
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 1: and the fact that the conversation was back and it's

1675
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 1: how soapy and again, as a lover of mess, the

1676
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: mess was there, baby.

1677
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 2: Yes.

1678
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 1: But you know, George R. Martin released another project this

1679
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: year and it is It's elder Ring, and I think

1680
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: that's my favorite thing of twenty twenty two. It just

1681
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:24,600
Speaker 1: Eldering had a grip on my life and it absolute

1682
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 1: choke hold, rear naked choke hold for like hours and

1683
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 1: hours and hours and weeks and weeks and weeks. It

1684
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 1: had just you know, I just love walking around in

1685
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 1: a world and exploring it and and you know, discovering

1686
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 1: enemies to fight and different hidden secrets and that Breath

1687
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 1: of the Wild gave that to me. And elder Ring

1688
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 1: was the first game since Breath of the Wild to

1689
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 1: really feel like, holy shit, is a massive continent, it's

1690
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 1: a massive world. The game was absolutely bullshit. For a

1691
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 1: lot of the time, I was like, you're just like

1692
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 1: running from everything, but beautiful, incredible, mysterious sense of adventure.

1693
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 1: I absolutely loved it. That's it, And thank you all.

1694
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 7: We love you.

1695
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah for attending this live taking us get to the show,

1696
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: and thank you so much. Yeah, enjoy your comic con.

1697
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 4: And also we have a bunch of like t shirts

1698
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 4: and tote bags and stuff to give away, so if

1699
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 4: you want, feel free to like we'll be outside because

1700
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 4: I think they want to get to the next the

1701
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 4: next panel. But yeah, thank you so much. Have a

1702
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 4: great weekend.

1703
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 1: Big thank you to Joel Monique, Cody Ziggler and of

1704
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,719
Speaker 1: course Rosie Night for joining us on X ray Vision.

1705
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 1: If you want to see more of Joel's work, check

1706
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 1: out for social media at Joel Monique, Subscribe to the

1707
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 1: show on YouTube, follow at XRV pod on Twitter, and

1708
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 1: check out the discord to meet and hang with tons

1709
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:56,679
Speaker 1: of amazing fans and listeners plus Rosie and myself. Another

1710
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 1: reminder will be off next week in the first week

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01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:02,759
Speaker 1: of January. Starting January eleventh, will be releasing new episodes

1712
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 1: of X ray Vision every Wednesday and Friday. That's twice

1713
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,599
Speaker 1: the deep dives we were Rites and nerding out per week.

1714
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 1: In the meantime, have a wonderful holiday and a happy

1715
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,799
Speaker 1: new year. X ray Vision is a Crooked Media production.

1716
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 1: The show is produced by Chris Lord and sal Rubin.

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01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 1: The show is executive produced by myself and Sandy's Rhard

1718
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:23,520
Speaker 1: are editing in Sound designers by Facillis Phatopoulos. Delon Villanueva

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01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,560
Speaker 1: and Matt Group provide video production support. Alex Rella for

1720
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,679
Speaker 1: Handle social media. Thank you Brian Vasquez for a theme music.

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01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 1: See you next time, folks,