1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Welcome at his verdict to a Senator Ted Cruz ben 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Ferguson with you. And on March the eighteenth of former 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: President Donald Trump announced via True Social that he quote 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: will be arrested on Tuesday of this coming week. Now 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: protests take our nation back. A spokesman for President Trump 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: stated that the former president has not received a notification 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: from the Manhattan District Attorney's office regarding any potential indictment, 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: and his post was highlighting his innocence. Senator President Trump saying, Hey, 9 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: this is coming, be ready for it, be ready to protest. 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: Let's talk about what he could be indicted for and 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: how we got to this point with an activist da 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: in New York. Well, let me say several things. Number One, obviously, 13 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: this is a big damn deal. If the former president 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: of the United States is arrested tomorrow, that is historic. 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: It has never happened in the history of our nation 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: that a former president of the United States has been arrested. 17 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: Number Two, the case from the Manhattan District Attorney, if 18 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: they bring an indictment and charge him, is utter and 19 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: complete crap. Actually, as groundskeeper Willie would put it on 20 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: The Simpsons, it's crap. I tell you it's crap. It 21 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: is flimsy, it is weak, It has been rejected by 22 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: prosecutor after prosecutor after prosecutor, and it is obviously political 23 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: retribution and a political persecution. Number three, if this case 24 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: is brought to the jury and the prosecutor loses, the 25 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: richest irony of everything is it may be left wing 26 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: Sorrows funded Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg more than anyone else 27 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: who will have reelected Donald Trump as President of the 28 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: United States. Because this is if you want to talk 29 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: about how to unify Republicans behind Donald Trump in the primary, 30 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: having an unhinged left wing prosecution, complete with perhaps a 31 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: perp walk for the cameras, that ends up being thrown 32 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: out and ends in failure could be the single biggest 33 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: in kind gift to the Donald Trump campaign of this 34 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: entire cycle. What's before we get into politics of this. 35 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: I want to get to people so they understand who 36 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: this district attorney is. This is a George Soros back 37 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: district attorney. This is an activist DA and as you mentioned, 38 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: no one else was willing to do this, but I 39 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: guess this is how he gets campaign contributions. Well, unfortunately, 40 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: that's right. Alvin Bragg is the District Attorney in Manhattan. 41 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: He is newly elected. He was supported by more than 42 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: a million dollars from George Soros. That's how he got elected. 43 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: And one of the very first things he's done is 44 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: dramatically reduced the prosecution of violent crime in New York. 45 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: Accorded to The Daily Mail, in November of twenty twenty two, 46 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: Manhattan Districttorney Alvin Bragg downgraded fifty two percent of felony 47 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: cases to misdemeanors, compared to thirty nine percent in all 48 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen. According to new data, by the way, 49 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: Bragg's convention conviction rate, even after downgrading the cases, its 50 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: conviction rate is fifty one percent. Barely half the cases 51 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: his lawyers bring to trial get convicted. That's down from 52 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: sixty eight percent in twenty nineteen. That is shockingly bad 53 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: for a DA's office to have a conviction rate of 54 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: fifty one percent, And if you compare it, his predecessor 55 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: was Cyrus Vance Junior, another left wing Democrat DA. Between 56 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen and twenty twenty, former DA Cyrus Vans Junior 57 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: never exceeded forty percent in the percentage of cases downgraded 58 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: from felony to misdemeanor. Alvin Bragg has already gone up 59 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: to fifty two percent. And he campaigned on the promise 60 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: of criminal justice reform, which in George Soros world means 61 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: letting violent criminals go. Now here's the irony. This da 62 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: comes into office and he sets his hallmark of if 63 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: you're a violent criminal, if you assault someone, we're going 64 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: to downgrade your crime from a felony to a misdemeanor. 65 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: We're going to release you. We're going to let you 66 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: commit yet more violent crimes in Manhattan. The irony is 67 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: the legal theory that he is pursuing against Donald Trump, 68 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 1: in all likelihood will be an incredibly aggressive legal theory 69 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: based on going the other way, on taking a misdemeanor 70 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: and elevating it to a felony. And nobody is confused 71 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: as to why he is doing this. He is doing 72 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: this because he's a partisan Democrat and he hates Donald Trump. 73 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: Now he has a right to hate Donald Trump, but 74 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a right to abuse and corrupt the 75 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: justice system to persecute his political opponents, and that, sadly 76 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: is exactly what he's doing here. You talk about this 77 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: persecution of your political opponents, and this goes back to 78 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: what you warned about and spend a lot of time 79 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: actually working on in your last book, Justice Corrupted, How 80 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: the Left weaponized our legal system. Now, you started this 81 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: book back in January last year. It came out in October. 82 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: This book, in your mindset more than a year ago, 83 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: was the worry that the left had gained control of 84 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: our legal system and then was going to weaponize our 85 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: legal system to take out political opponents. Now, George Soros 86 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: has been funding this. He has done a damn good job, 87 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: given credit of basically turning upside down district attorney's offices 88 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: all over the country and using them for criminal criminal 89 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: justice reform, bail reform, jail reform, and defund the police 90 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: or drive the police in saying the other thing that's 91 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: done is it's then also allowed for them to weaponize 92 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: and go after political opponents. Now, your entire book was 93 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: basically warning America about this. You saw this coming, and 94 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: you realize that they were putting the pieces of this 95 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: puzzle together. And here we are now with a president 96 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: of the United's America that may have a mud shot 97 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: this week. Well, Unfortunately I did see this coming. You 98 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: write the book. I spent much of last year writing 99 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: the book. It came out in October, and it goes 100 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: into depth on how the left is weaponizing our legal system. 101 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: There's an entire chapter on George Soros. DA's on the 102 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: millions of dollars that Soros has spent putting radicals in 103 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: the position of district attorney. District attorney race has used 104 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: to be sleepy races, typically between people who are both prosecutors, 105 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: who are both campaigning on we're gonna lock up the 106 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: bad guys, We're gonna put violent criminals in jail, and 107 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: you'd have a back and forth on competence, often without 108 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: a whole lot of partisanship. Soros has invested tens of 109 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: millions of dollars in putting radicals people like Alvin Bragg 110 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: in this position because he understands power. I will give 111 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: Soros credit. He has found the weak points in our 112 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: democracy and our rule of law, and he has devoted 113 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: millions of dollars to attacking those weak points, which have 114 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: been having tremendous negative effect. And so there's an entire 115 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: chapter Injustice Corrupted that explains what specifically the Soros DA's 116 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: are doing. There's also an entire chapter that goes through 117 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: Crossfire Hurricane, how the Department of Justice and the FBI 118 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: were weaponized against Donald Trump, were used to attack the 119 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 1: person who was then the Republican nominee to be president, 120 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: and then once he became president, the hardcore partisans that 121 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: had burrowed into dj and the FBI continued that witch 122 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: hunt against him. And the book details that at great length. 123 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: And so I would encourage you if you want to 124 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,679 Speaker 1: understand what is going on right now with the Biden 125 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: DOJ and this George Soros prosecutor targeting Trump, go by 126 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: the book Justice Corrupted. It just came out a couple 127 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: of months ago, and it walks you through the details 128 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: of what happened. I want to get into the play 129 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: by play of if in fact the president is indicted, 130 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: how does that go through the process, How will he 131 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: be arraigned, will there be mug shots? 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This is going to happen. 165 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: If this does happen, is there a very I mean, 166 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: is there gonna be a mug shot of Donald Trump? 167 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: And is that going to be victory for the Democrats? 168 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: And how does this go? How does this happen? How 169 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: are his attorney's brought into this to tell people how 170 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: this will play out legally? So presumably there will be 171 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: a mug shot if he is in fact arrested. There 172 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: are a couple of ways they can do it. Typically, 173 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: when you have an attorney who's represented by counsel and 174 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: an arrest warrant is issued, you typically will give give 175 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: that client the opportunity to turn himself in, particularly when 176 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: the client is not a flight risk. We saw recently. 177 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: In fact, I think last week's pod discussed how the 178 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: bidendo J sent over twenty FBI agents to the house 179 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: of Mark Hawk, who was a pro life activist. They 180 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: showed up with body armor and helmets and machine guns 181 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: and arrested him at the crack of dawn in front 182 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: of his wife and seven children who were crying. That 183 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: was utterly unnecessary in that instance. Mark Howk, his attorney 184 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: had offered, Okay, if you're going to prosecute him, he'll 185 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: turn himself in, and the BIDENDOJ said, now, now we 186 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: want to come raide you. Likewise, we saw the FBI 187 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: rated Mara Lago searching for documents. There was a sharp contrast, 188 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: a double standard between how they rated Mara Lago searching 189 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: for documents, but they were perfectly happy to let Joe 190 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: Biden's attorneys turn over one set of classified documents after 191 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: another after another after another, because this is political and 192 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: partisan justice. In any sane world, if they should arrest warrant, 193 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: they will allow Trump to turn himself in and they 194 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: won't actually try to forcibly arrest him. I think that's likely. 195 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: But if there is an arrest, there presumably will be 196 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: a mug shot. There is an entire canon of politician 197 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: mug shots. Unfortunately, we've seen politicized prosecutions before. There is 198 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: a question about does the politicians smile or not. You know, 199 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: you may remember Tom Delay when when he was indicted. 200 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: You may remember Rick Perry when he was indicted, and 201 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: smiling is one thing. It leads to kind of a 202 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: strange mug shot. When you have a picture of someone 203 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: in front of the hash marks for the different height 204 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: levels and holding a little little placard with their name 205 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: and number on it, and if they're smiling like a politician, 206 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: it's it's often quite dissonant. I don't know how Trump 207 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: will handle that. But will the media and the Democrats 208 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: go crazy if there's a Trump mugshot? Of course they will. 209 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I think the 210 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: image matters less than the facts in reality. And let 211 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: me explain why this case is crap. So this all 212 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 1: stems back to twenty sixteen, which was twenty sixteen was 213 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: a long time ago. That was seven years ago. And 214 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, Trump allegedly paid one hundred and thirty 215 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: thousand dollars to Stormy Daniels. Remember Stormy Daniels who was 216 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: a stripper and porn star and allegedly had an affair 217 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: with Trump. And the allegation is that Trump paid one 218 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty thousand dollars of hush money, basically paid 219 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: her one hundred and thirty thousand dollars to keep quiet 220 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: because in twenty sixteen he was running for president and 221 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: he didn't want a bunch of stories about his affair 222 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: with Stormy Daniels. The person who allegedly delivered the money 223 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: was Michael Cohen. Michael Cohen was, of course Trump's personal lawyer. 224 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: He was often involved in and pretty shady conduct. Michael 225 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: Cohen himself has now served prison time. He has turned 226 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: hard on Trump. He hates Trump. Michael Cohen is the 227 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: chief witness for the prosecution in this instance. And look, 228 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: as an ordinary matter, paying someone hush money is not 229 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: typically illegal. You know, if you know, Ben, if you 230 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: if you paid me a thousand bucks not to tweet 231 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: out that I saw you mowing your lawn and a 232 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: pink tutu last week, that was true, I would pay 233 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: you more than a thousand dollars. But keep going, Look, 234 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: that might be entirely understandable, and it might be two 235 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: thousand to delete the photo I took on my iPhone 236 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: of your doing so. But doing that is not illegal, 237 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: like paying someone to do something, not to do something that, 238 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: on the face of it is not illegal. So what 239 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: is it that the DA is trying to say is illegal? 240 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: And by the way, look, unfortunately people people in both 241 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: parties ben and women have a they shouldn't affairs, destroy marriages, 242 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: destroy lives. But this is not the first time that 243 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: has happened in the history of the world. Paying an 244 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: adulterous lover to keep quiet is something an awful lot 245 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: of Democrats, an awful lot of Republicans have done. It's 246 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: not good or writer moral, it is typically not illegal 247 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: to do. So what is the Manhattan Day's theory here, Well, 248 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: it's based on something called New York Penal Law one 249 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: seventy five dot zero five. That is a statute that 250 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: makes it a crime when an individual number one makes 251 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: or causes a false entry in the business records of 252 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: an enterprise, or two alters a races, obliterates, delete, removes, 253 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: or destroys a true entry in the business records of 254 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: an enterprise, or three omits to make a true entry 255 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: in the business records of an enterprise in violation of 256 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: a duty to do so which he knows to be 257 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: imposed on him by law, or the nature of his position, 258 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: or four prevents the making of a true trier causes 259 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: the emission thereofs in the business records of an enterprise. Now, 260 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: what the heck does that mean. It's a bookkeeping requirement. 261 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: It's basically, don't keep bogus books. Don't keep fake books 262 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: in a business. Now, the allegation here is that the 263 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty thousand dollars was recorded as legal 264 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: expenses because Trump paid Michael Cohen one hundred and thirty 265 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, when in fact it was not legal expenses 266 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: in the sense of paying the hourly rate of your lawyer, 267 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: but it was money that was given to Stormy Daniels 268 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: to keep quiet. So that's the allegation. Now, it actually 269 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: gets more complicated than that because New York penal law 270 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: WON seventy five dot O five is a second degree 271 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: Class A misdemeanor which has a maximum jail sentence of 272 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: one year and has a two year statute of limitations, 273 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: which means the DA can't charge Trump for something that 274 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: happened seven years ago as a misdemeanor, because the statute 275 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: of limitations has run. So what would the DA do. Well, 276 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: there's a second provision, which is New York Penal Law 277 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: one seventy five dot one zero. That is a felony, 278 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: And for it to be a felony, which has a 279 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: longer statute of limitations, the prosecutor must prove that Trump 280 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: committed the misdemeanor business record falsifications, and that his intent 281 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or 282 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: to aid in concealing the commission of another crime. So 283 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: he's got a piggyback. Not just was this a bogus 284 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: business record, but it was done to hide the commission 285 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: of another crime. And presumably the theory for the other 286 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: crime would be some sort of election federal election violation, 287 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: that this money was somehow a campaign expenditure that you 288 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: were hiding. It would be something like that. Now, Number one, 289 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: the Muller Report already examined this exact issue. Did Donald 290 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: Trump commit a federal campaign violation through the alleged one 291 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty thousand dollar hush payment to Stormy Daniels? 292 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: And Mueller decided not to prosecute, decided there was not 293 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: enough here to prosecute. The Southern District to New York 294 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: the US prosecutor in New York, and I think it's 295 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: fair to say there is no love lost between the 296 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: Southern District of New York and Donald Trump. They decided 297 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: not to prosecute because the evidence. A because Michael Cohen 298 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: is an exceptionally unreliable witness, someone would have I think, 299 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: serious credibility problems. But B because this is really really attenuated. Look, 300 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: they actually tried to prosecute John Edwards. Remember John Edwards, 301 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: the former Democrat senator who did the same thing, paid 302 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: off his mistress to keep her quiet, and they went 303 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: after him, alleging that that was really a campaign expenditure, 304 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: and they lost. The jury said get the hell out 305 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: of here or they lost. So in this instance, the 306 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: Manhattan DA has to piggybank one alleged state violation on 307 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: another alleged federal violation, both of which are exceptionally weak legally. 308 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: This is about as flimsy a case as you can imagine. 309 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: If this case is tried, how does that play out? 310 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: He's indicted, you get a mug shot, Is there a 311 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: trial date that would then be set, because the question 312 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: is going to be how does that affect the president's 313 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: run for the presidency. He's already announced he's gonna run 314 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: again senator, So how does that play out? And can 315 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: do you go to trial quickly so it's not in 316 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: the middle of an election or does this just could 317 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: it be held up in court for a year or two? 318 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: And how does that play out politically? So usually you 319 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: would go to court relatively quickly on this sort of thing. Now, 320 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: I will readily admit I have not practiced law in 321 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: New York state courts. I've certainly not practiced criminal law 322 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: in New York state courts, so I don't have personal 323 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: familiarity with trying a case like this in New York 324 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: state courts. That being said, typically for a criminal provision, 325 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: there's a speedy trial obligation, and this would ordinarily proceed 326 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: relatively quickly. The first step would be the district attorney 327 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: going and getting an indictment from a grand jury. Now, 328 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: given given the politics in New York, I suspect it 329 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: would be very easy to get an indictment. When you 330 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: get an indictment from a grand jury, the criminal defendant 331 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: isn't in there. Your lawyer doesn't get to make an 332 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: argument to the grand jury as to why you shouldn't 333 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: be indicted. And so that leads to the old aphorism 334 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: that a prosecutor could indict a ham sandwich. And so 335 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: I think if the DA decides to go seek an indictment, 336 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: he'll get an indictment in all likelihood. But bringing this 337 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: case to the jury is going to be exceptionally difficult, 338 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: even a biased jury of partisan Democrats. The evidence here 339 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: is really flimsy. Look number one, listen. I think cases 340 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: where people are engaged in sexual infidelities and trying to 341 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: cover it up, There's been a long history of politicians 342 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: doing that. Donald Trump is not the first politician alleged 343 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: to have done that. Obviously, Bill Clinton famously had a 344 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: career involved in doing this. John Edwards had these issues. 345 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: I think juries are often skeptical of holding people accountable 346 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: for what they view as essentially private and personal failings 347 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: rather than official corruption. I think a lot of juries 348 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: are not going to be eager to convict, particularly the 349 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: first criminal conviction of a former president of the United 350 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: States and the history of our nation. I think there 351 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: is an understanding that if that is going to happen, 352 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: the threshold needs to be significant. It shouldn't be some 353 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: little ticky tack book keeping claim that if Trump's name 354 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: were Donald Smith, the chances that Alvin Bragg would be 355 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: bringing this case are zero. It is one hundred percent 356 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: because he hates Donald Trump why this case will be brought. 357 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: All point out. Also, look, we've talked a lot in 358 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: the podcast about how I believe the Biden Department of 359 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: Justice wants to indict Trump, and I think Merrick Garland 360 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: personally wants to indict Trump on federal charges, federal charges that, 361 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: if brought, I think would be more serious than these 362 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: charges that apparently are going to be brought this week. 363 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: But Merrick Garland's effort has gotten much much more complicated 364 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: because I think DJ was on the verge of indicting 365 00:22:54,720 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: Trump for the classified documents at Marlago, when suddenly Joe 366 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: Biden appeared to have classified documents just about everywhere, almost 367 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: stuck in the glove compartment of his corvette. I mean it, 368 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: And as we talked about in this podcast, look, legally 369 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: that's not technically a problem, but it creates an obvious 370 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: political problem because the double standard is evident if the 371 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: bidendj says, if Trump has classified documents, we want to 372 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: put him in jail. But if Biden has classified documents 373 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: at his home, no biggie, all good with us. Even 374 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: people not paying attention say, wait a second, that's a 375 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: double standard. Well, here's a huge double standard with the 376 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg potential prosecution of Trump, which is the theory 377 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: that he's basing it on that Trump gave one hundred 378 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: and thirty thousand dollars recorded it as legal fees, when 379 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: in fact it was hush money to Stormy Daniels. Well, 380 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: that is precise sleep the charge that was raised against 381 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton funded the so called Steele dossier. 382 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: This is something again that I discuss at great length 383 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: in the book Justice Corrupted the Steele Dossier. The Hillary 384 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: Clinton campaign paid over a million dollars to make the 385 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: Steele dossier, which is it's a work of fiction, it 386 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: is a political hit job. But she covered up the 387 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: payments for making the Steele dossier by calling those payments 388 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: legal fees. So she did the exact same thing Donald 389 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: Trump is accused of doing. Well, and to be clear, 390 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: she was not indicted. I want to make that very clear. 391 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: Remind people of the double standard here. She was not indicted. 392 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: By the way, She's a resident of New York, so 393 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: she could have been indicted under this statute by this 394 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: DA and by the way, she did it at the 395 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: same time Trump was doing. This is the twenty sixteen election, 396 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: so she literally did exactly the same thing at exactly 397 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: the same place, at exactly the same time. But Alvin 398 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: Bragg is a Democrat, so he doesn't want to indict 399 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton even though their conduct was identical. Although let 400 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: me put in a caveat, I have no evidence to 401 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: suggest that Hillary Clinton had a sexual relationship with Stormy Daniels, 402 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: so that conduct I'm not suggesting was identical. But the 403 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: payments that are called legal fees, they both did the 404 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,719 Speaker 1: exact same thing. How the hell do you just go 405 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: after the opposing party and not your own party's nominee. 406 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: I got to ask you also about the timing of this. 407 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: There was big breaking news that the Biden crime family 408 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: had expanded this past week with payments coming from the 409 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist governments. You know, these sectors and jobs that 410 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: were sending cash back to the Biden crime family now 411 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: has expanded to more family members, and exactly the same 412 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: week that happens this story breaks. 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Senator, 436 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: I want to go back to the point I was 437 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: making a moment ago, and that is this week was 438 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: a really big week in the news area, to the 439 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: point where even Biden's team had to respond Hunter. Biden's 440 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: team had to respond about these new allegations that there 441 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: was millions coming in from shady Chinese companies are directly 442 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: tied to the Communist government, and expanded the list of 443 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: people with the last same Biden who were receiving these 444 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,479 Speaker 1: funds from these shady business deals that we're all being 445 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: run through Hunter and James Biden. Then in the middle 446 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: of the same week when this happens and they're forced 447 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: to respond, Bam, we're hearing about an indictment of Donald Trump. 448 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: Is there any connection in your mind between these timing 449 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: of these stories. Look, I don't know that that was 450 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: the driving factor for Alvin Bragg my suspicion as Bragg 451 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: is not a big fan of Biden either, so I 452 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: doubt that that was his driving motivation to cover up 453 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: for the growing evidence of Biden family corruption. Now I 454 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: will say, you know you pointed out you said last 455 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,959 Speaker 1: week was a big week. My reaction listening to that 456 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: was to chuckle. I'm like, well, wait a second, how 457 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: could that possibly be. I didn't see it on CNN. 458 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: I didn't see it on ABC or CBS or NBC. Like, 459 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: the corporate media just ignores the evidence. So if you 460 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: listen to this podcast, you know the facts. If you 461 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: listen to a handful of conservative media outlets, you can 462 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: find at least some of the facts. But the corporate 463 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: media utterly ignores it. So my suspicion about the timing 464 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: is it was less that Bragg is driven by wanting 465 00:28:54,440 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: to change the media story, but the instant this began happening, 466 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: I think the media was more than eager to jump 467 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: all over it and change the topic because they certainly 468 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: didn't want to be forced to discuss the evidence that 469 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: came out last week that up to four Biden family 470 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: members now collectively received over one million dollars from the 471 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist That's a big, big deal. The media doesn't 472 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: want anyone to know about it, and so the best 473 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: way to do that is to talk instead about who 474 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: Trump was sleeping with a decade ago. And if we 475 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: can talk about porn stars and distract people from the 476 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: sitting president and his family receiving over a million bucks 477 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: from the Chinese communist well that's that's convenient for the 478 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: political narrative from the corporate media. One of the things 479 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: that the media is covering is Donald Trump in there 480 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: now saying that he is threatening violence again. He put 481 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: out a message about the possible is possible arrests. And 482 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: I want people to be able to hear what Trump 483 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: had to say quickly, and then I want you to 484 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: hear CNN clearly take him out of context, treating him Mike, 485 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: he's a domestic terrorist. Here's Trump in his own words. 486 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: These four horrible radical left Democrat investigations of your all 487 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: time favorite president me is just a continuation of the 488 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: most disgusting witch hunt in the history of our country. 489 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: It's gone on forever with the Russia, Russia, Russia and Ukraine, Ukraine, 490 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: Ukraine and the Mueller hooks. It's an absolute disgrace. What's 491 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: going on. They even spied on my campaign, and remember this, 492 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: with all of the work that they did on Mueller. 493 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: No collusion, that's what the answer was was all no collusion. 494 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: Whether it's the Marlago raid or the Unselect Committee hoax, 495 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: the perfect Georgia phone call, it was absolutely perfect, or 496 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: the stormy horse faced Daniels extortion plot, they're all sick 497 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: and it's fake news. Are of means, are desperate to 498 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: stop us because they know that we are the only 499 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: ones who can stop them, and they know it very strongly. 500 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: And they're looking at the polls where not me, but 501 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: we are up by so much they can't even believe it. Now. 502 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: You hear him say that, And how does CNN spin it? 503 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: They say that the President of the United States of 504 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: America is threatening violence again and he should be treated 505 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: basically like a domestic terrorist. Your CNN and their own words, 506 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: your reaction to Trump's claim that he will be arrested Tuesday, 507 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: his calls for protests, and by the way, the Manhattan 508 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: Day's Office still not confirming that there is any imminent 509 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: arrest or indictment that is scheduled for Tuesday, right, that's 510 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: part of the story that he's putting us a specific 511 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: date on it that the DA's office is not. But 512 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: obviously the larger point is the one Fred that you mentioned. 513 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: You know, if you are the most sympathetic observer possible 514 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: to Donald Trump and you do double backflips, you can 515 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: find some credence in his argument that I'm January sixth, 516 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: he did not know that his language would lead to violence, 517 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: But January sixth has now happened. He knows the effect 518 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: of the language that he used that day and how 519 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: it led to violence, and here he is coming very 520 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: close to that language again. It makes it very hard 521 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: to avoid the conclusion that he is willing to use 522 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: the threat of violence as part of his political strategy. 523 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: And that is just a reminder of the very different 524 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: era we are in that we have been at any 525 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: point in American history where you have Trump, the leader 526 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: of a political movement who is routinely willing to raise 527 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: the specter of violence as a way of advancing his goals. 528 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: And so many conservative commentators and members of Congress who 529 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: have condemned preemptively the possibility of indictment remained silent on 530 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: his raising this threat of violence. So that I think 531 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: is just enormously significant and a mark of the very 532 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: different era that we are in politically that we have 533 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: ever been in before. I mean, they're pretty much calling 534 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: out what I do. They're calling out you, Senator, saying 535 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: as a member of Congress and basically saying that you're 536 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: aiding and abetting a domestic terrorist who's now calling for 537 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: a massive uprising in the country. That's not what I 538 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: heard from Donald Trump. I heard a former president saying, 539 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: this is an activist day who's gone rogue yet again 540 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: with four different times. They're batting over three on the 541 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: first ones, and now they're going at me again. CNN 542 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: is not a news organization. They are a left wing 543 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: propaganda outlet, and they lie for a living. Every word 544 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: of that diatribe, including and butt and the we're lies. 545 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: Nothing Trump said was a call for violence. If you 546 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: look at his truth social post, he said quote he 547 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: will be arrested on Tuesday of next week. Protest, take 548 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: our nation back. Now. The last I checked, the word 549 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: protest is not the same thing as riot. It is 550 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: not commit violence. The last I checked. The First Amendment 551 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: to the Constitution, the very first protection in the Bill 552 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: of Rights, protects our right to protest, our right to 553 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: stand up and speak out. And what the left does, 554 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 1: and in fact, what the left has done since January sixth, 555 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: is they've tried to smear the thousands of people who 556 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: engaged in peaceful protests. They tried to smear those protesters 557 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: with the violent action of a much smaller cohort. My 558 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: view is simple in its consistence, if you commit violence, 559 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 1: you should go to jail. The irony is that whole 560 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: screed from CNN. The right does not excuse violence. If 561 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: you commit violence, if you assault a police officer, you 562 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: ought to be in a jail cell a long damn time. 563 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: But you know who does excuse violence? The left, The 564 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: Democrat Party, the media, CNN happily sat there cooing about 565 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: the Antifa and Black Lives Matter riots across the country, 566 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: listening while Democrats called it a summer of love as 567 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: great American cities burned, as police cars were firebombed, as 568 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: stores were looted, as police officers were murdered. Now, let's 569 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: be clear the Black Lives Matter riots, there were some 570 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: people engaged in peaceful protests. They had a right to 571 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: do that. But there were hundreds, if not thousands, of 572 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: people engaged in organized acts of violence, and the Democrats 573 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: turned a blind eye to it. The media not only 574 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: ignored it, they celebrated it and Kamala Harris went so 575 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: far as to raise bail money to bail out of 576 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 1: jail the violent criminals committing acts of violence. And you 577 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: don't have to go back three years ago, you can 578 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: go to right now. Right now. You have aggressive, threatening 579 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: rioters outside of the homes of Supreme Court justices, threatening 580 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: the justices and their families, threatening their children. Their conduct 581 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,720 Speaker 1: is a federal crime. And we have an Attorney General 582 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 1: under Joe Biden who just ignores the law, refuses to 583 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: enforce that law. Why because he and the Biden White 584 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: House agree with the people who are committing criminal offenses. 585 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: They are quite content to use threats of violence to 586 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: advance their political ends. By the way, they're also not 587 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: investing resources in prosecuting the people who are firebombing crisis 588 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: pregnancy centers across the country. Why because they are perfectly 589 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: happy to use violence for their ends. So, look, Marxists, 590 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: what they accuse you of doing, typically they are doing. 591 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: And CNN illustrated that right there and then that was 592 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: not a call for violence. And let's be clear my home, 593 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 1: my prayer by urging to everyone is no one should 594 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: engage in violence this week or any other week. But 595 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: peaceful protesting, speaking out that is protected by the Constitution, 596 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,959 Speaker 1: and that is good for America. I want to ask 597 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: you one final question about an eligibility issue. There's so 598 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: much misinformation out there center about if the president is 599 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: a indicted does he is ineligible to be president? And 600 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: b if he is convicted before election day in e one, 601 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: would he be ineligible. 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I've seen 626 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: others that have said, well, if he's indicted, the rush 627 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: to a jury trial because if he is convicted then 628 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: they'll be ineligible to be president. What does the law 629 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 1: actually say, Well, it doesn't say any of that. So, 630 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: first of all, there is no prohibition on someone who 631 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: is indicted running for president. There's no prohibition on someone 632 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,919 Speaker 1: who is indicted being elected president. Sadly, we have seen 633 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: far too many political officials, both candidates and and officeholders 634 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: indicted for political and partisan reasons. In my book Justice Corrupted, 635 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: and look, this podcast wasn't supposed to entirely focus on 636 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 1: the book, but the entire book is written on what's 637 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: happening right now. I talked about DJ's prosecution of Ted Stevens. 638 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: Ted Stevens was a senator from Alaska. He was a Republican. 639 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: He was an incredibly long serving senator. The Department of 640 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: Justice brought a corruption case against him, tried him, and 641 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: he ended up being defeated in the on election day, 642 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: a Democrat won the Alaska Senate seat. Subsequently, it turned 643 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: out the prosecution and engaged in massive misconduct and the 644 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: entire thing was a political persecution. It was designed to 645 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: do what it did, which is weakened him politically and 646 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: let the Democrat win. Likewise, I talk about in the 647 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: book the prosecution of Bob Menendez. Bob Benendez was a 648 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 1: Democrat senator and DOJ announced that they leaked an indictment 649 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: against Bob Menendez for misuse of campaign funds. But they 650 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: did it literally the day that Bob Benendez announced his 651 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: opposition to the Biden Iran nuclear deal. The Biden White 652 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 1: House was mad at him because he was a Democrat. 653 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: Opposing the catastrophic Iran nuclear agreement, and so their DOJ 654 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: in a naked act of politics, they leaked, and they 655 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: leaked then in order to punish Menendez for daring opposed 656 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: the White House. By the way, we see the Biden 657 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: DOJ doing political leaks constantly. At the end of the day, 658 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: the Menendez case went to trial and they lost at trial. 659 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: So there are no consequences other than political for being indicted. 660 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: And the question is, well, what if you're convicted, Well, 661 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: if you're convicted, that doesn't mean you're ineligible to run 662 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: for president or be president either. It's happened in the past. 663 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: For example, the socialist Eugene Debs ran for president four 664 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: times in the early nineteen hundreds, and he was a 665 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: candidate while he was in jail, so he was literally 666 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: as a socialist in jail running for president. And the 667 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 1: Constitution Article two, section one of the Constitution provides the 668 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: qualifications for president, and nothing in that clause precludes felons 669 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: precludes people who are incarcerated from running for president or 670 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 1: serving as president. There is just one mechanism that could 671 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 1: theoretically happen, which is if Trump were prosecuted, if he 672 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: were convicted, and if the House of Representatives were subsequently 673 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: to impeach him yet again, and if the Senate were 674 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: to convict him in what would now be his third 675 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: impeachment trial. One of the penalties that the Senate can 676 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,800 Speaker 1: impose and the impeachment of a president is to prohibit 677 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 1: him from running for office in the future. So that 678 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: is a penalty that is theoretically possible. But it would 679 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: take the House of Representatives, which is controlled by a 680 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 1: Republican majority, and it would take two thirds of the 681 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: Senate to impeach and then convict Trump and make him 682 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: ineligible for office. The chances of that happening I can 683 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 1: quantify precisely or zero point zero zero percent. This is 684 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: a Democrat fever dream. This is a corporate media fever dream. 685 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: The consequences of this are purely political. And I want 686 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: to underscore Alvin Bragg. You know, you know sometimes Donald Trump, 687 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: in many respects, has enjoyed a great deal of luck 688 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: in his life. And one of the areas where he's 689 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: enjoyed a lot of luck is in having the right enemies. 690 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 1: There were times where the Trump presidency was in difficult straits, 691 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,919 Speaker 1: and yet the Democrats and media hated him so much 692 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: that they were so over the top attacking him that 693 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 1: it had the reverse effect and it rallied voters behind him, 694 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: and they said, you know, if those sobs hate him 695 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 1: that much, he's got to be the right guy. That 696 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: dynamic is very much alive here. I'll tell you if 697 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: I were a partisan Democrat, if I wanted a Democrat 698 00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: to win in twenty twenty four as president, I would 699 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: be beside myself right now that this clown from Manhattan 700 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: is going to bring a case that is ridiculous, that 701 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: is legally weak, and in fact, here I'll read you 702 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,720 Speaker 1: what Jonathan Turley. Jonathan Turley is a law professor, very smart, 703 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: well respected law professor, left of center, but willing to 704 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,760 Speaker 1: speak the truth even when it doesn't further Democrats interest. 705 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 1: Here's what Turley wrote last week in The Hill quote. 706 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 1: Trump faces serious legal threats in the ongoing Marlago investigation, 707 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: but the New York case would be easily dismissed outside 708 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: of a jurisdiction like New York, where Bragg can count 709 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 1: on highly motivated judges and jurors. Although it may be 710 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: politically popular, the case is legally pathetic. Bragg is struggling 711 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: to twist state laws to effectively prosecute a federal case 712 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: long ago rejected by the Justice Department against Trump over 713 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: his payment of hush money to former stripper Stormy Daniels. 714 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: If Bragg brings this case and he tries it to 715 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 1: a jury and he loses, which is what should happen, 716 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 1: if Trump wins at trial, that single action could be 717 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,800 Speaker 1: the single most decisive action that elects Trump as president, 718 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: that helps him win the Republican nomination number one, but 719 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 1: that helps him win the general number two. If I 720 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,399 Speaker 1: were a partisan Democrat, I would be crying in my 721 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: beer right now that they are so extreme, so partisan, 722 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 1: so abusive, that they are driving the American people the 723 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,760 Speaker 1: other direction. Elon Musk, because he put it in a tweet. 724 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: He said, if they do this, he believes that Donald 725 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: Trump will get reelected in the landslide, just for the 726 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: reason that you just mentioned there. 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