1 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields. 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: in the credit fear of normalcy. Welcome to one Bills 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Live here on a wednes Day, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker 6 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: here with you, and we have some interesting stuff to 7 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: discuss today on the NFL front, on the Bills front, 8 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: and we're gonna have a guest in the third hour 9 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: of the show to talk NFL as well. Kevin Clark 10 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: from The Ringer will be joining us an hour number three. 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: But some developments and I can't say that they're all 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: that surprising, Steve. With respect to what the NFL offseason 13 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: will look like, we know that the Union is pushing 14 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: for a fully virtual off season, much like we saw 15 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: last year. Due to the pandemic this year, they're still 16 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: trying to have a virtual off season and hoping to 17 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: make it a permanent fixture of what the offseason looks like. 18 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: The league pushing back on that. Coaches obviously want players 19 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: at the facility on the field making preparations for the 20 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: regular season, as they have done for the better part 21 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: of the last fifteen years. So where does it end up. Well, 22 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: if the Eagles and the Colts and the decisions they 23 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: have made as any indication, we may not be seeing 24 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: any mandatory mini camp. Both the Colts and the Eagles 25 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: have canceled their mandatory veteran mini camps after meetings between 26 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: coaches and players. Now, this is maybe not as big 27 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: a deal for at least as I see it for 28 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: the Colts as it is for the Eagles. You've got 29 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: a first year, first time NFL head coach in Nick 30 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: Sirianni in Philadelphia with an undetermined starting quarterback situation as 31 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: he sees it. He did not say that Jalen Hurts 32 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: is his first quarterback for all intensive purposes day guy, 33 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: But that's the rhetor, right. Uh, there's a lot for 34 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: them to get done on the field, especially putting in 35 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: a new system. No mandatory mini camp, and you say, well, 36 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: you know, what's the big deal. It's only three days 37 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: of practice, you know, but it's mandatory for the balance 38 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: of the roster. It's three days to get a jump 39 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: start and kind of use it as a springboard for 40 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: training camp five weeks later. And that is now gone 41 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: for the Eagles and the Colts. My question to you, Steve, 42 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: is do you feel that this is going to be 43 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: a domino effect on the league and that other teams 44 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: will very quickly follow suit? Or will other teams say 45 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: the heck with that, we're doing mandatory mini camp and 46 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: if you don't show up, you're getting fighted. Yeah, it's 47 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: it's interesting. I think it's interesting to me because I 48 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: hadn't thought about this. I know Nick Sirianni, the new 49 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, and Frank Reich, who 50 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: I know personally and as a head coach in the 51 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. Those two guys, Nick have worked together extensively, 52 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: and I wonder if there was a conversation between the 53 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: two of them about how they're going to handle it. Certainly, 54 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: Frank Reich has done an outstanding job in Indianapolis when 55 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: he got that head coaching job. I remember he got 56 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: that head coaching job when Josh McDaniels opted out before 57 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: anybody knew what opting out was. Yeah, and he has 58 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: crushed it. I know Sirianni would probably use Frank as 59 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: a resource in some of his head coach you know, 60 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: to get out coach to having coach together having a 61 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: personal relationship on in a couple of different places. So 62 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: I'm thinking that there was probably I don't know this. 63 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking there might have been a conversation between 64 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: the two of them that, you know what, we should 65 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: handle it because, you know what, are we gonna really 66 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: get done? And Sirianni has been It's not like he's 67 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: a newbie to the NFL. He knows how these things 68 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: work and what you can get accomplished. And they also 69 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: both went through last year's COVID and went through all 70 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: the virtual stuff. It'll be interesting to see if I 71 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: don't know if it would, but that both of them 72 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: got together and say, you know what, I for the 73 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: sake of team unity and being a player's coach and 74 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: putting my guys in the best mindset possible when they 75 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: do get in here, I'm just gonna affego the mandatory 76 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: mini camp. I could see that happening. As for being 77 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: a domino effect, I can see both sides of it. 78 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: It's a two edged sword. Some coach will say, yeah, 79 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: you know what, maybe that's if they're willing to do that. 80 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: I know that maybe I'm gonna do that too, And 81 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: then other guys are going perfect. The Dallas Cowboys and 82 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins are gonna gain ground on their division rival, 83 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, and the ten to see Titans, and 84 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars Houston Texas saying all right, we're going 85 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: to gain a step on the best team in the division, 86 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: the Colts. You can see both of those scenarios play out, 87 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: and I don't know how I would fall into that, 88 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: but if it's mandatory, it's been collectively bargained, I have 89 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: a hard time saying, I think what this is what 90 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: I think will happen because from what we understand, Eagles 91 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: coach Nick Serriani told Eagles dot Com and this is 92 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: a direct quote, we had some really good conversations with 93 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: our players some of our team leaders about the off 94 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: season program. I've always believed it's important to have that 95 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: open communication with your team, and it was really helpful 96 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: for us as a staff as we put together the 97 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: off season program. I feel good that our schedule will 98 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: allow us to get some really good work in before 99 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: we hit training camp. I really appreciated those conversations. Now, 100 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: what we should mention here is that OTA practices are 101 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: still going to take place. They are on a voluntary basis, 102 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: They are not mandatory, and they essentially deal with There 103 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: is on field work, but it's more fundamental individual position 104 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: drill related. You do some scheme work, yes, on air 105 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: and their strength and conditioning work. There are no eleven 106 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: on eleven or seven on seven segments of practice in 107 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: the OTAs. Yeah, there's no competitive man on man going, 108 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: you know, there's no Yeah. Yeah. The three days of 109 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: mandatory minicamp do have team segments, still not in pads yet, 110 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: but it is competitive based on what we've seen here 111 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: in Buffalo the last several years. So that is off 112 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: the table now for the Eagles and the Colts. They 113 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: are foregoing that after having conversations with their players. Now. 114 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to create a domino 115 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: effect across the league, Steve, but it is going to 116 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: spark conversation absolutely, and I'd like to know what the 117 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: play coach to player exactly. And I think it's interesting too, 118 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: and in a smart move by Siriani and a Frank 119 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: Wright to at least have these conversations with their players. 120 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: At least then you understand what their problems are. Do 121 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: they ay just not want to come in and do 122 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: the work. They just want free time. Is it still 123 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: we got guys that are still worried about COVID, They 124 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: got moms, they got dads, are living with They've got 125 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: all that stuff. Is it something else? You know? What? What? 126 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: What is the problem with having the mandatory mania? They 127 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: don't want to They feel conflicted with the union wanting 128 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: them not to go into these things, and young players 129 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: actually wanting to go in, and they don't want to 130 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: put a rift between the veterans on the team and 131 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: the rookies on the team and say, listen, when we 132 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: do it, we'll all do it together. You don't have 133 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: to you know, you can come in on your own 134 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: basis and on your own voluntary basis. Instead of having 135 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: us come in here and then having a big handful 136 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: of veteran players say I'm not going to come in 137 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: and I'll pay the fines. It could look bad in 138 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: the locker room, and it could create a tension in 139 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: the locker room, and which is the last place you 140 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: want that. So whatever those reasons are, it'd be interesting 141 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: to hear the players take. And it doesn't mean that 142 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: it's the same in Philly as it is in Indianapolis. 143 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: It may be a different kind of dynamic in the 144 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: locker room, it can be different points of view for 145 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: football teams populated by like minded guys, the differences could 146 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: be expressed differently. So I think that's really interesting that 147 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: the coaches said, man, you're right, because they figured, listen, 148 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: if they thought it was gonna help them more than 149 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: it was gonna hurt them, they would sell it to 150 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: those guys and get them in. But I don't. I 151 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: think they had a real hard time doing that, and 152 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: I think that makes that slays the seeds and foundation 153 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: for something you can suspects is pretty big concerns on 154 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: the part of the players. It's three days, and maybe 155 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: there are coaches like Frank and Sirianni who say, you 156 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: know what, we can probably make up those reps somewhere 157 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: in training camp. If we do six extra reps on Monday, 158 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: six extra snaps on Tuesday, you know we can catch 159 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: up in two weeks time to what we lost in 160 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: the mandatory. I mean it, cap, I mean they who knows. 161 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: I mean most of those teams segments are twelve snaps, right, 162 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: give or take right, there a dozen snaps, so fifteen tops. 163 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: So you're probably saying to yourself, do I have enough 164 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: time in training camp to make up those reps or 165 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: a majority of those reps? And if so, is the 166 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: goodwill I'm gonna earn here on the part of my 167 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: players gonna get me more from them when we get 168 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: to training camp because I gave them this, so when 169 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: I ask them for that, I'm gonna get it from them, 170 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: especially for a first year head coach. And some of 171 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: the concerns might be that, listen, we need our guys. 172 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: Aren't all vaccine If we come in and not everybody's vaccinated, 173 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: which is not gonna they may know already that they're 174 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: not gonna fall within the thresholds that have been put 175 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: out there. Let's not nobody wants to come in for 176 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: three days of getting tested every day and wearing a 177 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: mask around and being six feet apart from everybody. Let's 178 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: wait until we get to the OTAs and by then 179 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: maybe we got enough guys vaccinated. We don't have to 180 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: wear these masks and do all the protocols, which is 181 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: probably why it's going to be a wait and see 182 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: for the majority of the other teams in the league. 183 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: But it wouldn't surprise me at all if come next Monday, 184 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: when OTAs voluntary OTAs begin for the balance of the league, 185 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: that the coaches have a sit down, perhaps with just 186 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: the leadership council. We know the Bills have a leadership council. Here, 187 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: there's a select group of players that sit down with 188 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: coach and kind of give him the temperature of the 189 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: locker room on a weekly basis. I would expect that 190 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: if they feel this is something that needs to be addressed, 191 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: they would probably request some time with coach and then 192 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: they have a conversation and it organically goes in some 193 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: direction and probably a resolution is reached on what they 194 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: decide to do. And I would imagine the same kind 195 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: of thing is going to take place in a lot 196 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: of other NFL facility next week at some point in time, 197 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: and decisions therein will be made. It's gonna be interesting 198 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: to see just how many teams follow suit and do 199 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: what the Eagles and the Colts are doing in terms 200 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: of scrapping the three day mandatory minicamp. Now on the 201 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: other side of the coin, Steve, there is this we 202 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: already know. Juwan James was waived by the Broncos after 203 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: sustaining a ruptured achilles, and they waived him because under 204 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: the CBA that is completely legal. They've absolved themselves of 205 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: their ten million dollar responsibility to their right tackle. And 206 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: it's because under the CBA it's listed as a non 207 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: football injury because the injury took place off site from 208 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos team facility. He was working out on 209 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: his own, ruptured as achilles and he's out of luck. 210 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: It's happened again. Broncos wide receiver DeShawn Hamilton, same team. 211 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: Second time it's happened. He's been released after tearing his 212 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: ACL in private training. So the Broncos are not messing around. 213 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: If you are going to train away from the facility 214 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: and you have a season ending injury, thanks, you know, 215 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: don't call us. We'll call you and you're off the roster. 216 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: It's it's a tough spot to be in, but you know, 217 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: and I know it sounds but this is what the 218 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: teams are for. You can see both sides of the argument. 219 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: And I know people are up in arms, like you're 220 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: gonna cut that guy because he got injured. He know 221 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: he's training. It doesn't sound fair, It doesn't sound fair, 222 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: but it was agreed to and you can see the 223 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: league's point of view for this reason. You got some 224 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: wahoo going out and surfing and breaking his arms surfing, Well, 225 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: I did it while I was training. Well, you know 226 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: whether you did or not, so irrelevant. You still can't play. 227 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: You're done. If you're out, you're skydiving and you broke 228 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: your ankle, bro you're done. And that's what the wording 229 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: of this particular part of the CBA was designed to do, 230 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: to prevent players from taking unnecessary risks with the leisure 231 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: activities that you're mentioning. You know, you got to surfer, 232 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: He gets bit by a shark, loses half his calf muscle, 233 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: he can't run like. You don't want that happening. You 234 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: don't want a guy riding a motorcycle. All of that stuff. 235 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: That's what that's what that language in the CBA was 236 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: designed to prevent us. Now players are taking issue with 237 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: guys that are doing the right thing, working out on 238 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: their own away from the team facility to get ready 239 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: for the season, and they're getting punished for that due 240 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: to an unfortunate injury that occurs during offseason training specifically 241 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: for their job. Let me let me just take the 242 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: other side. You can do this doing the right thing. 243 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: You can pull that line on the league. No, you're not, 244 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: you're not doing the right thing. Doing the right thing 245 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: is here. Yeah, that's doing the right thing. You can 246 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: living on the West Coast, living in the desert, living 247 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: in the Northwest, living on your parents farm in Iowa, living, 248 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, living on your ranch in Texas and doing 249 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: all your thing. That is not doing the right thing, 250 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: whether you're training hard or not doing the right thing 251 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: is being here. That's where the league sits, and they're 252 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: not gonna move. They're doing the right thing. They're the 253 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: ones paying the one hundred and ninety one hundred and 254 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: eighty two and a half million dollars to get those 255 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: guys to do the right thing. They're paying them one 256 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty two million dollars to do the right 257 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: thing here in this building so they can and that 258 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: as a function of the lead of the season, they 259 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: get some time where it's a slow time a year 260 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: and these guys scatter, well, they can scatter, that's fine, 261 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: but don't act like the right thing is not being 262 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: here for one hundred and eighty two million bucks. So 263 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: this doing the right thing, and we all put our 264 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: finger quotes on. They're doing the right thing. No, it's not, 265 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: it's not. It's taken a freedom that was granted to 266 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: you by virtue of the goodwill of a guy who's 267 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: paying you one hundred and eighty two and a half 268 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: million bucks a year. So if you're gonna abuse it 269 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: or do something stupid, even if you're trying to do 270 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: your job better, you know that the better part is 271 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: being back here doing it here because you're covered. It's potentially, 272 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: it's insential. You're essentially waiving your insurance policy when you 273 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: work out. When you work out away from the team facility, 274 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: you can have the jest of intentions. You can you 275 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: can have the best of intentions. You may be I'm 276 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: just I'm exaggerating this a little hyperbole to make a point. 277 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: You may be working out in Texas because you are 278 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: volunteering in an orphanage and that's the only way you 279 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: can do is to work out that it doesn't matter, 280 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter you're wherewithal and you're you're living and 281 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: you're is here or there or whatever whatever team you're on. 282 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: So but just doing the right thing. It's not doing 283 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: the right thing, the best thing for your football team 284 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: was that all of you every day would be in 285 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: here working out together, polishing it up. So the guy's 286 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: not doing anything bad. He's trying to help, he's trying 287 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: to keep it going. But he's taken advantage of a 288 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: freedom that was granted to him by the league with 289 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: some stipulations, and he those stipulations. Whether it was of course, 290 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: it was not deliberate. He didn't mean to blow as Achilles. 291 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: The guy didn't mean to blow his aco. But that's 292 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: the risk they assume when they don't want to do 293 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: it in the building that there. And let me tell 294 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: you something. The buildings that they're turning their nose up 295 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: at make whatever facility they were working out in and in 296 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: in the offseason look like a dump. Yeah, so don't 297 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: like they got a better place to work out. No, 298 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: you can just stop. That is the problem is. And 299 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: you've said this, you got twenty four year old, strapping 300 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: alpha male. He thinks he's bulletproof. Yeah, so that's why 301 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: he works out away from the facility. I'm not gonna 302 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: worry about, you know, being covered in case God does 303 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: Juwan James thinking about rupture and Achilles working out and 304 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: you know squatt and god knows how many pounds you 305 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: know is day Shawn Hamilton wor running routes full speed 306 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: on a turf field and tearing an acl. I'll say this, 307 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: every player agent should be in their ear and quietly 308 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: usburn and listen. I know you, I know your family. 309 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: I know you want to go out in the West Coast. 310 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: I know you gotta place in La. I know you 311 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: gotta place in Texas. I know you got a place 312 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: in Florida. But you it would be the smartest thing 313 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: to get right into your facility. Go to Baltimore and 314 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: get in the Ravens facility. Go to Owings Mills and 315 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: get in there. Get at the New Jersey, get in 316 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: the Jets place, get into La Ramp. You go to 317 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: your place where that team is, and you live in 318 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: that place, because if they see you in there every 319 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: single day doing everything they ask you to do and more, 320 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: you'll always have a place to play. They're not gonna 321 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: they're not gonna turn their back on They're gonna lie. 322 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: They're gonna have a hard time. When cut come down, 323 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: it's you or this other guy, They're gonna pick you. 324 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: Every player's agent does them a disservice by giving them 325 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: the freedom and this end that like just a casual 326 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: ways say yeah, I go train wherever you want. They 327 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: do their players a disservice, and players don't want to 328 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 1: hear it. Then they're surrounding themselves with yes men, and 329 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: there's their own problem. The agents everywhere should be telling 330 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: their guys to get into that building where their coaches 331 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: live and where that they're supported by a complete staff 332 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: of people, so that you know the union. They go 333 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: back and forth about that all time. I think that's 334 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: a huge miss. Here's the quote, just to give fair 335 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: representation to the other side. NFLPA president jac Tredder, who 336 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: is an acron New York native and plays for the Browns, 337 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: basically told ESPN's Dan Graziano and is a direct quote. 338 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: The offseason program has gotten out of hand. OTAs have 339 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: been ratcheted up year after year, and they've turned into 340 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: especially for big guys and guys on the line of scrimmage, 341 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: into legitimate full contact, non padded practices. Nobody puts any 342 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: restraints on them. They let guys go at it. I 343 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: shouldn't in may be taking on bullrushes with no shoulder 344 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: pants and that's what they've turned into, and guys are 345 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: getting hurt, and guys are getting banged up, and it 346 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: just doesn't make sense to guys anymore. And we know 347 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: that over the course of the last several years, they've 348 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: been grievances filed here and there across the league about 349 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: too much contact and the OTAs, and the league cracks 350 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: down on it. But there are probably some other teams 351 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 1: where it's not reported because who wants to be the snitch, 352 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like nobody likes doing that. 353 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: I'll tell you here's the thing. I mean, if the 354 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: Union wants to do it, I mean they would. They 355 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: should just have an open forum. And now nowadays with Zoom, 356 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: they could have all two thousand guys in the league 357 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: on the Zoom meeting just as a private Zoom meeting 358 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 1: for the Union and say, hey, guys, what's going on 359 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: with your teams and let word get out about which 360 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: teams treat their guys right and which guys don't, and 361 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: let the teams live with the consequences. Yeah, you know, 362 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: if you've got a team that's that's going full bore 363 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: in April and May words gonna get guys aren't gonna go. 364 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to overpay for every single one of 365 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: their players on the free agent market that wants to 366 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: go there because they don't want to go there and 367 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: beat their brains in, or the players agent's gonna say, 368 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: that's fine, we'll come and play for you, but you 369 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: are hands off, no holding, We are off limits between 370 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: February twenty eight and June first. You can't even you 371 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: can't even call my guy. They'll sign that into the contract. Yeah, 372 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: and that's what agents should do and could do, but 373 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: you know they don't yet. So I'm think they can 374 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: do that, even if it runs counter to the CBA language. 375 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: You can negotiate whatever contract you want. I mean, you 376 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: know they don't have to guarantee any money either. Oh, 377 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: that's right, it would work because it's voluntary ots. Yeah. Yeah, 378 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: and even so the club could excuse the guy, right, 379 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: he could from all mandatory offseason workouts until June twenty eighth. 380 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: You know, they could do that for guys. So you 381 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: know they just if a guy doesn't show up, they say, ah, 382 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: we don't care. They don't have to find him. It's 383 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: totally discretionary, and players can sign have it written into 384 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: their contract. So I so this is a it's a 385 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: it's an ongoing issue because you've got these coat and 386 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: it's amazing to me in this day and age, because 387 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: you've got guys that are you're talking about numbers, analytics, 388 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: injury data, soft tissue data, you got exercise science, got management, 389 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: load management, you got GPS tracking systems, you got all 390 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: of this technology, and you still got guys forcing guys 391 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: to bang heads in May. There should be a price 392 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: to be paid for idiocy like that. I mean, I 393 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: get it with from the players who coming from they're 394 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: not getting it's not worth it at that time of year. Well, 395 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to risk an injury in May playing 396 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: in a padless setting with helmets with a three hundred 397 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: pound guy coming at me that I got to catch 398 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: and protect my quarterback from and then suffer a broken 399 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: collar bone because he buries the crown of his helmet 400 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: in my chest. And now I can't play a in 401 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: training camp and potentially be for the first month of 402 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: the season. And now my future's compromised because of it, 403 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: because I'm only a second year player and I'm not 404 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: entrenched as a starter yet. It's that kind of stuff 405 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: and I get it. I totally get it. So they 406 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: got to find some common ground there and hopefully they do, 407 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: and you know they can figure it out. On a 408 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: separate subject, we know earlier in the week, Steve that 409 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: much was made about the Jaguars rookie mini camp over 410 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: the weekend where Travis etn basically spent the entire weekend 411 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: split out wide at receiver rather than at his known 412 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: position of running back. Urban Meyer tried to tamp down 413 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: the significance of it, saying, well, we know what he 414 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: is as a running back. Let's see how good he 415 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: is out wide. And this is not an uncommon thing 416 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: for urban Meyer. He did it with Percy Harvin at Florida, 417 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: he did it at Ohio State, and I want to 418 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: try to remember the player Curtis Samuel did running back 419 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: end receiver. So this is not uncommon for urban Meyer. 420 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: It might be somewhat uncommon for the NFL. But now 421 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: word comes that the Pittsburgh Steelers have similar intentions for 422 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: Naji Harris. They say he is going to line up 423 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: quote everywhere in the offense and that he'll spend some 424 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: time lining up at receiver. So we've seen this maybe 425 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: more on the defensive side of the ball, Steve, But 426 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: is this another step closer? Are we another step closer 427 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: to positionless football as it retains to the skill position players. 428 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: I think is exactly what we're headed towards. Your think 429 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: about the possibilities that you've got, and let me exaggerate 430 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: again to make a point. For instance, you've got five 431 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: Marshal folks, it doesn't matter who's lined up at tailback, 432 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: and the other five guys are running routes just like 433 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: a wide out, the Hall of Fame guy, that kind 434 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: of quality, that's what you're talking about. Or you've got 435 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: four steph Digs out there. You can move them whatever 436 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: slot and whatever trips to one side and a single 437 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,239 Speaker 1: receiver or the other. It doesn't matter where they line up. 438 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: You've got they've got a matchup problem. When you've got 439 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: or five Rob gronkowskis out there, right, I mean, so 440 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: you can line these guys up and mix and match 441 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: wherever they go, and what teams will do is they'll 442 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: have a group of guys who are athletically inclined and 443 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: capable of playing like a wide out. You know, certainly 444 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: there are guys who are better white house and run 445 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,479 Speaker 1: better routes than some others. But you can mix and 446 00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: match personnel and get the matchup you want against the 447 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: defensive back you want whenever you want it. You can 448 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: get your running back lined up on a big fat 449 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: guy in a pass route one on one when you 450 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: get the right offensive set in formation and you get 451 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: their right defensive call in the right down and distance. 452 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: It's all about dictating matchups, and the more unpredictable you 453 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: are as an offense, the better. Take it back. Go 454 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: back to the K gun in nineteen ninety one, nine 455 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: ninety one, where they that team was scoring four hundred 456 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: and ninety points in a season. There was no absolutely 457 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: no variety at all in the personnel and the formation. 458 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: It was either slot right, slot left, you know, to 459 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: put it that. Now it's completely the opposite of that. 460 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: The game has changed. So you'll have three guys over here, 461 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: one of them's a tight end. Then you'll have three 462 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: guys over here ones are running back on the tight 463 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: ends of the opposite side. They mix all these guys 464 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: up all the time, everywhere on the field, and they 465 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: do it particularly early in the game, where you've heard 466 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: all these teams script plays those twenty one Scripted plays 467 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: are a plays that you'll run really well and you 468 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: have an idea that they may work really well and 469 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: move the football, but they're also questions about what the 470 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: defense sees you doing when you line up in this 471 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 1: and run this play. What do they do well? If 472 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: they're doing that, then we're gonna line up like that 473 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: again and do this right. You have answers for what 474 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: they think their answers are. That's what the whole league 475 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: is moving to. And by being able to keep the 476 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: same guys on the field, they don't they won't substitute, 477 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: They can't change the matchup there. If you got those 478 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,239 Speaker 1: guys on the field and say, okay, here's who we're 479 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: gonna play against. These guys, that's it. If you remain static, 480 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna remain static. They're gonna they're not gonna change. 481 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: And they say, oh they may. After you crush them 482 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: on six plays in a row, they wait, we gotta 483 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: get bigger out there, and then they send some guys in. Well, 484 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: now you're winning because now now they've got to change 485 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: what they're doing with people rather than concepts. And that's 486 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: that's where you're winning. As a coaching staff that did 487 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: I make that clear one and basically to kind of 488 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: shut it down to the cob a little bit. In 489 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: the example of Najie Harris, he's a two hundred and 490 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: twenty eight pound running back who's gonna get split out wide. Now, 491 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: you may have a linebacker that can stick him in 492 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: the hole on an inside run play, but he's not 493 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: going to be able to cover him on a circle 494 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: route because he's not athletic enough. That guy's got to 495 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: come off the field now, right, So now you're putting 496 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: a two hundred and ten pounds safety out there to 497 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: cover Najie Harris when he gets split wide or is 498 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: assigned a circle route, and you're covered in the coverage game. 499 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: But what happens if he's running it, you know, in 500 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: the B gap, and you need your safety to stick 501 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: him in the hole and he's got twenty pounds on 502 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: your guy and a head of steam. He's getting six 503 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: to eight yards even if your guy hangs on by 504 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: your shoelaces. Right, That's the problem it comes down to. 505 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: And to cut it even further down to the basics. 506 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: If your athletes are bigger, stronger, and more athletic than 507 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: the guys they're matched up against, particularly at the skill positions. 508 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: If you've got like Calvin Johnson who's six five plus 509 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: runs a four three forty, there's nobody even physically matches 510 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: up with that. You gotta double team that guy. That's 511 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: the same thing you're talking about with Nagi Harris. He 512 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: goes out wide, Well, okay, you're gonna put Tredevious White 513 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: on him if he's out there, because he can cover him. 514 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: But what happens if you bring him into the slot 515 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: and now tarn Johnson's on him and you get him 516 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 1: the ball with a guy in front of him, all 517 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you got a big problem, you know. 518 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: And if you got to if you can get the 519 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: ball to the guy in his hands, if you're big 520 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: enough to tackle him, you're not fast enough to you're 521 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: not fast enough to catch him. And if you're fast 522 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: enough to catch him, you're not big enough to tackle him. 523 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: That's the whole game. So if you can get enough big, strong, 524 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: fast athletes out there, it's a problem. It's a huge 525 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: problem because they don't have guys that can do that, 526 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: at least not that deep into their roster. It's like 527 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: we had last year with the Bills. That's why the 528 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: Bills went four wide. You didn't have enough corners to 529 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: cover as good of receivers wheel That's why Robert Salo 530 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: was checking for rain when the Bills were playing San Francisco, 531 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: because he didn't have an answer for Josh Allen. That 532 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: guy too big, too strong, too athletic, and they didn't 533 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: have answers. They put a bunch of light fast guys 534 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: out there to cover all the wide outs. And now 535 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: he's running with the football and Josh's tackling that guy. 536 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: Josh is carrying the ball like a loaf of bread, 537 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: loping through the middle of the field. I'm I couldn't 538 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: find Fangio did the same thing in the day. He's like, 539 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what we're gonna do here. Fangio's like, 540 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, He's like, he's like, touchdown, Jesus. He's like, 541 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: well what am I doing here? Meanwhile, Josh is telling 542 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: the ref how many times we got to score the 543 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: touchdown here? Coming back to score and it it really 544 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: is true. I tried to find the shot of Robert 545 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: Salo in the San Francisco game with he looks like 546 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: a gunfighter who's out of it was the look it 547 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: was the look on his eye, in his eyes, Who's like, 548 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: I got no answers anymore? And you know, so that's 549 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: what you're trying to do. And that's why you know 550 00:29:55,040 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: Naji Harris and Travis at n they're finding what they 551 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: can do outside because the more they can do outside, 552 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: the more snapster get, the more down and distance plays 553 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: where they don't have to pull them off the field 554 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: and specialize people. They leave the same eleven guys on 555 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: the field offensively and then just look for the guy 556 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: they can take advantage of on defense. Yeah, we have 557 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: to take a break here, but we do have an 558 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: interesting Twitter poll for you today that we wanted to 559 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: pass along and it concerns the Bills players entering their 560 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: third NFL season. We know what Josh Allen did in 561 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: his third NFL season last year, and for that matter, 562 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds all of his naysayers aside voted to the 563 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl by his fellow players and coaches in the league, 564 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: two guys that had very good third seasons in the 565 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: NFL for the Bills. Who is primed for a breakout 566 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: in year three for the Bills in twenty twenty one? 567 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: Choices are there for you at one Bills Live, Devin Singletary, 568 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: Dawson Knox, Ed Oliver or someone else and people are 569 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: on the ed train here. But let us know what 570 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: you think. Who is primed for a breakout in year 571 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: three with the Bills this season? And tell us why 572 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: eight oh three oh five fifty open line for you 573 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: there one eight eight five fifty two five fifty or 574 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: hit us up on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live, 575 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: Steve and I back in a second here, don't you 576 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: go anywhere on a Wednesday, back One Bills Live, Chris Brown, 577 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here with you and discussing year three breakout 578 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: player candidates for the Bills. In twenty twenty one, we 579 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: saw that Josh Allen obviously had a breakout year. Hell 580 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: he was runner up for the MVP. Tremaine Edmonds had 581 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: a solid season, got voted to the Pro Bowl in 582 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: his third year. So what about the guys lined up 583 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: for their third NFL seasons this year? Who do you 584 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: think is prime for a breakout year to have in 585 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: Singletary on that list, Dawson Knox on that list, at Oliver, 586 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: There's some others too, And that's why we put the 587 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: other category on the Twitter poll, So vote away on 588 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: Twitter at one bills Live, or you can give us 589 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: a call eight oh three oh five fifty one eighty 590 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty And we lead off 591 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: today with Mike on a cell. Mike, what do you 592 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: have for us? You're on one bills five. Yeah, Hi, 593 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: chris Ie, Steve, Hey, I really like you guys the 594 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: show today. It was really interested listening you break down 595 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: the plays and how things work, and it's really really awesome. 596 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 1: I think all three of the guys that you listed, 597 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: add Dawson Devin, I think all three of them could 598 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: potentially have a really good year this year. And I 599 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: know aj Epanessa is only in a second year, but 600 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: I think he's he's going to see a lot more 601 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: time on the field too. Yeah, you're probably right, Mike 602 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: uh AJ's. Yeah, we're talking about just like kind of 603 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: like Josh went through last year with this third year explosion, 604 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: we're seeing these guys are kind of prime for that now. 605 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: They've kind of got it under their belts. It's what 606 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: they do now. They're kind of upperclassmen in the NFL 607 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: where they don't have to worry about right, So um, yeah, 608 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting, and I think you're right. We're 609 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: gonna see some improvement for some of these other guys 610 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: who were younger than that, and some of some improvement 611 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: from the guys who are older. But I think around 612 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: the league gets and we've got into this because it's 613 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: kind of a I don't want to say legendary, but 614 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: it's kind of a rule of thumb around the league 615 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: that that third year is kind of a magical year 616 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: for a lot of guys who really come into their 617 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: own or in some cases it's a make or break here. 618 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: That's why they haven't shown enough right. Incentive is there 619 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: right and for the whatever, Like for instance, Dawson Knox, 620 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: he came in as a rookie. I think he was 621 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of a surprise starter for a lot 622 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: of people and wow, you know, he must be pretty good. Um, 623 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: so they come in and he gets on the fielding. 624 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: He has a lot of drops his rookie year. His 625 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: second year doesn't have as many drops, but he has 626 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: pulls a calf muscle and he gets COVID. It's a 627 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: funky year. He makes some catches, does some nice things 628 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: during the year, but nothing consistently enough. So now all 629 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: that stuff behind him, and there's really the deck is 630 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 1: cleared for him. He's the he's the clear cut starter. 631 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: The Smith's not here, Tyler Croft's not here. Yeah, that 632 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: position's kind of been a little bit thinned out from 633 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: guys that we kind of could trust anyway, we had 634 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: a history with, and now it's him. He's the last 635 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: guy standing, and so it'll be interesting to see it's 636 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: time for him to you know, for people to look 637 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: at him. And I much to my what I usually 638 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: don't like to do. I did a little research, so 639 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm I don't like usually leave that to you. I 640 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: don't know how accurate it is. And now some of 641 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: this doesn't hold water back. I picked out three guys 642 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: that people will know and just as a marker for 643 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 1: a third year, where they were in their first year 644 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: and where they were in their third year. And it's 645 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: interesting the path that some of them took. I took 646 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: a quarterback, a tight end, and a running back that 647 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: we would all know, and I'll give you the first 648 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: year and a third year, and there's some caveats in 649 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: here that so Peyton Manning first year to third year, Yeah, 650 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: upside down on touchdowns to interceptions. I think he still 651 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: has the record for most interceptions right In his first 652 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: yearies fifty six point seven percent, completion percentage fifty six percent, 653 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: fifty seven percent, thirty seven hundred and thirty nine yards 654 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: passing twenty eight interceptions, seventy one point two rating. His 655 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: third year, he went from fifty seven percent to sixty 656 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: two and a half percent. He went from thirty seven 657 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty nine yards to forty four hundred and 658 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: thirteen yards, went from twenty eight interceptions down to fifteen interceptions, 659 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: and his rating went from seventy one point two to 660 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: ninety four point seven, now sandwiched in between his first 661 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: and second. His first and third year was a thirteen 662 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: and three year and his third year accidentally incidentally, they 663 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: lost more games his third year than they did his 664 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: second year, but his statistics kind of gradually incrementally got better, 665 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: and he threw as many interceptions in his second year 666 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: fifteen as he did in his third year, but it 667 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: was still almost half, just over half of what he 668 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 1: threw in his rookie year. That's Peyton Manning, all right. 669 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: So his third year was pretty good, a big jump, 670 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 1: not as big as Josh allens correct. Rob Gronkowski tight end, Okay. 671 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: His first year he played in sixteen games and only started. 672 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: But he only started eleven games, but he played in 673 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: all sixteen Yeah, I think he started. He made started 674 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: in fourteen game. I'm not sure. His rookie year, he 675 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: didn't have He had zero starts, but he played in 676 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: all sixteen games. Rob Gronkowski, Okay, zero starts, sixteen games, 677 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: he had fifty nine targets, ten te d and forty 678 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 1: two receptions. In his third year, he had seventy nine targets, 679 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: eleven tds and fifty five receptions. Not a huge jump, 680 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: but he started reductive from the word go, playing with 681 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 1: the best quarterback ever. And he also started eleven games 682 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: rather than sitting on the bench for sixteen games. Yeah, 683 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: he was a starter on the field all the time. 684 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: So that was probably the biggest transformation for Gronkowski. All Right. 685 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: The third guy, running back, Christian McCaffrey, recent still in 686 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: the league his third His first year, he had one 687 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 1: hundred and seventeen runs. His third year, he had two 688 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty seven runs. His first year he only 689 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: had four hundred and thirty five yards. His third year 690 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,439 Speaker 1: he had thirteen hundred and eighty seven yards thirty seven 691 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: receptions his first year. He was still a pretty good 692 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: receiver out of the backfield his first year thirty seven, 693 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: but he had fifty eight receptions in his third year. 694 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: His yards total yards after his first years one thousand, 695 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 1: eighty six, and he had twenty almost twenty four hundred 696 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: his third year. He had two tds his first year 697 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: fifteen his third year, McCaffrey took a big leap forward. Yeah, 698 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: and got a giant contract because of it. Yeah, he did. 699 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: And he was in the conversation m VP Offensive Player 700 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: of the Year, right, So I think when you look 701 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: at it, I think, and I left out offensive lineman. 702 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how you quantify offensive lineman as sacks, 703 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: giving up, penalty's taken. Yeah, whatever, It's hard to get 704 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: through it. So I couldn't really get a Cody Ford 705 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: comparison as an offensive lineman. But as for a running back, 706 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: a quarterback, and you know, and a tight ta oh, 707 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: I did look at a defensive tackle. I'm sorry for 708 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: Edward Oliver John Randall. Okay, so you're picking a Hall 709 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: of Famer again, I am he had er undersize guy 710 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: like his first year, he had zero starts. In his 711 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:54,479 Speaker 1: third year, he had fourteen starts. Yeah, Sacks's first year, won, 712 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: Sacks's third year eleven and a half from the defensive tackle. Yeah, 713 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: break out. First year, twenty one tackles, third year, fifty 714 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: six tackles. And that's a guy that went on to 715 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: be in a Hall of Fame, as if Peyton Manning 716 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: did as well, and probably Gronkowski as well. And well 717 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: McCaffrey's a little young, but still yeah, you know, these 718 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: are guys that stay, and they're they're the kind of 719 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: guys that you can think of as having long, productive careers. Gronkowski, 720 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, McCaffrey certainly is on his way there get 721 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: despite the injury he had last year. But they're they're 722 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: solid NFL players that any team in the league would 723 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: have had, would have said, yeah, give me that guy. 724 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: So they're one of those upper echelon players who would 725 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: be in the conversation to start on any team you 726 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: plugged him into if not, you know, right at the 727 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: top of the list. And that those are the jumps 728 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 1: that those guys took. John Randall, McCaffrey, Gronk, and Peyton Manning. 729 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: Now that it is. I don't think there's any question either. 730 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: Like a guy like Peyton Manning, he took a significant 731 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: step in his second year of big significant step, but 732 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: then took a little bit of another incoment in his 733 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: third year. Even so, McCaffrey took a huge step in 734 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: his second and third year, and Gronk same the same thing. 735 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: So they all took this big step somewhere in that 736 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: first three years. But by third year, we everybody knew 737 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: what you had in those guys. So after the third year, 738 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: so who is ready to do that on the bills roster. 739 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phones and find Yeah, we 740 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: go to Larry and cheek to waga. Larry, what do 741 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: you have for us? You're on one Bill's Live. Hey guys, Um, Yeah, 742 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: I believe d Oliver. I think a couple of things 743 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 1: I think started the tooling coming back. I think they're 744 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: gonna I think they're gonna set up Oliver really good 745 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: to have a great year. And with the rookies coming 746 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: off the edge, I think we got a lot of 747 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: talent on the defensive line. I think they're gonna do 748 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: some creative things with Ed Oliver this year. And he's 749 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna succeed big time. Um by saying I 750 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: had another guy singletary just for when I'm hearing he's 751 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: training like an animal. I heard he's doing. Oh if 752 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,479 Speaker 1: he if he transforms oto the football field, I think, Um, 753 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 1: and I just have one more thing, guys, Um, this 754 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 1: is a question I have. We were talking about people 755 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: getting injured on like on workouts away from the facility 756 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: also holes. I'm just I'm just saying, what if Josh Allen, 757 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 1: like he's in California, he's he's got receivers and are 758 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: working out. Now if he told the digs digs towards 759 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: tears and ecl they're not gonna cut him. Now if 760 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: he if he's just saw a guy that they don't care, 761 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: he's on the bubble, they're gonna cut him. Or say 762 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: Allen goes it down, off off, He's not going to 763 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 1: cut him. So is it, um, you know what I mean? 764 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it a two edged sword? I mean? 765 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: Is it who you are gett Yeah? Absolutely, that's an 766 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: element of it. Now. Absolutely they're not gonna cut Josh 767 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: Allen because he pops in Achilles, right, They're not. They 768 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 1: just won't do it. But I'll say this, Juwan James 769 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: was there left ten million. He's a right tackle the 770 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,359 Speaker 1: ten million dollars five dollars. But here's the thing. I mean, 771 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: for ten million bucks, you're not gonna have a guy 772 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: sitting in a in a year where the CAP's gonna 773 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: be one hundred and eighty two and a half minute. 774 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: You can't afford it. You just can't. So this it 775 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: might be a function if if this cap was up 776 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 1: at two twelve, they might have stomached it. But at 777 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: a one eighty two and a half cap, they just 778 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,879 Speaker 1: can't do it. With an injury where you know you're 779 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,879 Speaker 1: not gonna have him. Yeah, he's an entire year, right, 780 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: and so they mean and Achilles is a one year injury. 781 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: That's that's a tough timing for a spot like that. 782 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: You know, we've heard, you know we this is a 783 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: thing this year because of the reduced salary cap. The 784 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: Broncos are up against it. If they're they're coughing up 785 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: ten that means it's one hundred and seventy two and 786 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 1: a half million if they just hang on to the 787 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: guy for no reason. Yeah, he's not giving him anything. 788 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: He's sitting on the battles to a guy who's not 789 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: gonna play for us in twenty twenty. He's gonna do 790 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: nothing but eat your food and sit in your kitchen. 791 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: That's all he's gonna do. And so that's that's a 792 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: tough call. This is a tough year for that, and 793 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: I think and that's probably part of it too. Part 794 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 1: of it is, Yeah, they don't have the cap space 795 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: and they gotta They want to get better, they want 796 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 1: to win, They want to try and chase the chiefs, 797 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: and you can't do that with that kind of you know, 798 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 1: for lack of a better way to put it, they 799 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: can't do that with that kind of an achilles heel. Yeah, 800 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 1: I mean that's what that's really what it is. That's 801 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: why they always say the number one ability in the 802 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,919 Speaker 1: NFL is availability. We have to take a break here, 803 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: David South, Buffalo, Jerry, and Tonawanda. We will get to 804 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: you next. As we were asking you who is primed 805 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: for a breakout year three with the Bills choices there 806 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet. We'll have more for you when 807 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: we return here. On one Bill's Line presented by Kalida Health, 808 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome Back, to one Bills Live, 809 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Jasker with you, asking you who you 810 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: think is poised for a breakout year three with the 811 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:50,800 Speaker 1: Bills choices there on the tweet sheet, Yevin's Singletary, Dawson Knox, 812 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: and Oliver. There are others, so let us know who 813 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: you think. Yeah, it's in the best position. Who were 814 00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: to have a bust out? Who are all the third 815 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: year players on Aster? Cody Ford goody Ford's another one. Yeah, 816 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: there are others, so we can run down the list 817 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: a little bit later, but for now we go to 818 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 1: Dave and South Buffalo. Dave, you're on One Bill's Live. 819 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Hey, good to talk to you. 820 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: Let me get inside warm away from the track place 821 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: I thought on my porch. Okay, well, appreciate it. Yeah, 822 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: Dave from Salt Buffalo, Austin Arms the first down man. Actually, 823 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be Dawson Knock because I think 824 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: the time with us, from time with the judge machines 825 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: and the takeaway, it's gonna improve or get rid of 826 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 1: the worst part of his game, which laps Anyway, The 827 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: reason I'm calling is that it's more to do with 828 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 1: the idea of having a zoom call with all of 829 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: the players participating and exchanging which teams play fast and 830 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 1: loose with the h O t A rules of which 831 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: one song I belonged to a couple of the units 832 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: flo unions, and there were times way to union meeting 833 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: where the next morning management it was as if they 834 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 1: had received a transfer for the union meeting. They know 835 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,720 Speaker 1: exactly what was going on, and I have a feeling 836 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 1: if they did that with the zoom calls, same thing 837 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 1: would happen. I probably similar to what you've said about 838 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 1: the the player that works out the facility all the 839 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: time and going to have the advantage that cut down 840 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,280 Speaker 1: day over the player that doesn't work out the facility. 841 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,320 Speaker 1: I believe that the player that is UH the snitch 842 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 1: is going to have an advantage over the clubhouse lawyer 843 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: if it comes to something like that. But I would 844 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,399 Speaker 1: be I would be relatively certain that if they did 845 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 1: have that zoom meeting, the information would be back in 846 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: the team in the team management's hands, with names included, 847 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: especially if there's personal animosities involving. You can be sure 848 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: there's going to be names included. Yeah. Yeah, And they 849 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 1: put through the problem, Yeah, day. I'll tell you this though, Dave, uh, 850 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:02,359 Speaker 1: that won't That won't deter the players from making it known. 851 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 1: Because here's the thing. Word'll get out on the street anyway. 852 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 1: So the clubs will know whether they're thumbs up or 853 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 1: thumbs down in the eyes of the players. They'll know 854 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 1: they don't have any they don't have any qualms about 855 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 1: I mean the company. I guess in your case, the 856 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: company knows whether how they're viewed by their players. The 857 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: question is this in a place like Buffalo, and there 858 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 1: are other and there's a ton of other places that 859 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,399 Speaker 1: are high quality organizations around I'm not. In fact, they're 860 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: more of those than there are teams that would not 861 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: fall into this heading. The coaches want to take plays, 862 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: take care of their guys. They want to do them 863 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: right and do them do right by them. They want 864 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: to earn their respect, they want to treat them with respect. 865 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 1: They just want everybody on board who's in the building. 866 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 1: And if they and a guy like McDermot Hills, they listen, 867 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,399 Speaker 1: here's what we want to do. What do you guys think? 868 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 1: And they're god like, yeah, we're all on board with it. 869 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 1: They won't do things that players aren't on board with uh, 870 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: there are others who are There are more that do 871 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 1: it like that than there are who liked they are 872 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: pigheaded or like they want to go on on a 873 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 1: padded practice on and may and hope nobody finds out. 874 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: Nobody's doing that. So it's a little bit different because 875 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: not with all due respect, pro football players aren't treated 876 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 1: like labor, like ditch diggers, like laborers, like field hands, 877 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 1: like migrant workers. They're treated like the prize cow they're 878 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 1: They're treated like a valuable commodity in most respects. You 879 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: can say what you want about Juan James and Denver 880 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: and the guy's getting cut and all that that. It's 881 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,399 Speaker 1: a it's a cold business, no question. But when you're 882 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 1: in the building, you're in the building and they got 883 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 1: their arms around it. They want the best for you 884 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 1: and they treat you like that for the most part. 885 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 1: You know when unless business gets in the way and 886 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: it seems cold hearted, But even the players understand the 887 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,799 Speaker 1: business side of it. So for me, I don't think 888 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,280 Speaker 1: there's any question that the conversations that the union would 889 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 1: have about teams and this and that and the other 890 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: is common knowledge anyway, But to have it aired out 891 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,720 Speaker 1: and put out there in a common form where there's 892 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 1: no doubt that all the guys who are going to 893 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: be free agents know the quality destinations as opposed to 894 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 1: the other ones. That it would just be a shortcut 895 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: and me get into that zoom meeting with all of 896 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: that was just kind of a short cut to what 897 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: would happen. Is probably gonna happen anyway, because if it's 898 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 1: not a zoom meeting with the union, it's your agent 899 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: talking to other agents and other players he represents. He 900 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: gets the word like from the horse's mouth, so that 901 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 1: information's out there anyway. Yeah, and me saying it was 902 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 1: going to be on a like maybe a big zoom 903 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 1: call was just a way to shortcut that. Yeah, And 904 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: for those that are wondering, I mean, most of the 905 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 1: Bills players are here now. Steve saw a couple of 906 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 1: them just yesterday playing a little golf, right, Yeah, Yeah, 907 00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 1: there's some guys out so there. They are a good 908 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: number of players here already, you know, doing their strength 909 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 1: and conditioning training on site, and so I would anticipate 910 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 1: that the majority of them will also be here for 911 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 1: voluntary OTAs, which begin on Monday. Let's get back to 912 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 1: the phones and to Jerry in Tonawanda, Jerry, what do 913 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,359 Speaker 1: you have for us? You're on one Bill's Live. Hey, 914 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: great job every day, guys. I got two points one. 915 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,760 Speaker 1: I think Singletary. You know what, when we got Matt Prida, 916 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 1: Singletary is telling himself, Hey, in the offseason, I'm not 917 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 1: going to let some guy come in here and take 918 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: my spot. So look at what he does. He gets 919 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 1: a running back coach, he gets puffed up, and he's 920 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: going to be the new Singletary. He's he's gonna prove 921 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: it and he's going to have a breakout year this 922 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 1: year because he does not want to be replaced. I 923 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 1: would tend to agree with that. We showed a photo recently, Jerry, 924 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: of him on the show yesterday to show you his 925 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 1: new bulked up physique. Guy is jacked. Yeah, right now 926 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 1: he looks like a rock. Yeah, he looks different. He's 927 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 1: uh I mean arms, I mean his biceps have probably 928 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: he's got he's got an eighth pack. I mean the guys, 929 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: he's solid. He's always been a solid, builtload of the 930 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 1: ground type of guy. Now he's packed on some lean 931 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: muscle mass here too. And maybe even more important is 932 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,880 Speaker 1: he has worked with a running coach. Guy's name escapes me. 933 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 1: It's it's one of those Hicks. What's that guy's name. 934 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna remember it, but he's he's a well 935 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 1: known UH speed coach who actually teaches people how to 936 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 1: get the most out of their stride, UH most power 937 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,280 Speaker 1: and explosion out of their stride to improve their overall speed. 938 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 1: He's been known to take a tenth, at least a 939 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 1: tenth off of people's forty times, which when you think 940 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,319 Speaker 1: about at forty yards is not a lot of not 941 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: a lot of distance, and to cut a tenth of 942 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 1: a second off of that speed is noteworthy. And and 943 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,799 Speaker 1: he's he's working with Um Nick Hicks. Yeah, Nick Kicks. 944 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:04,320 Speaker 1: He's working with Um Singletary all off season. So that's encouraging. 945 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 1: And I that's the guy I voted for. And we 946 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:07,959 Speaker 1: can talk about our choice is Steve in the next 947 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 1: hour here off this Twitter poll, But Singletary was my guy, 948 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 1: and I'll be happy to tell everybody why when we return. 949 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 1: And Stevell has have his choice as well. For a 950 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 1: year three breakout, I think I know who it is, 951 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 1: but we'll find out for sure when we return here. 952 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 1: On one, Bill's Live presented by Collot of Health. It's 953 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve tester who has been 954 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 1: all all over the fields kind of unique. He was 955 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 1: kind of a dual role player for you, Steve, Steve 956 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:55,400 Speaker 1: a blimp. We're not even in the stratgyre of normalcy here. 957 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna come on, kid, is a new open jay 958 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:11,399 Speaker 1: h Steve is serving as a very effective, well maybe 959 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 1: not an effective, a very loud squeaky wheel on this. 960 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: We'll see if the squeaky wheel gets his grease. I'm 961 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 1: not a complainer, brownie, No, no, no, that's not your nature. 962 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm more of a kind of this poker. Yeah, exactly, 963 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,959 Speaker 1: every once in a while, come mode by and here's 964 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,839 Speaker 1: the stick, kind of a give me a little jab 965 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,400 Speaker 1: boothpick under your finger. Names you forgot kind of guy? 966 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 1: Our number two of the show and Twitter poll today, 967 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 1: which player on Buffalo's roster is prime for a breakout 968 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: in their third year with the club. And there's some 969 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: good choices there, Devin Singletary, Dawson Knox at Oliver. You 970 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: also got Cody Ford, Bam Johnson's got an uphill climb 971 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: with all the extra pass rushers that got added to 972 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,839 Speaker 1: the roster Jaquan Johnson, former sixth round draft choice entering 973 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 1: his third season. I do know that they do think 974 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 1: highly of him, even though it's tough for him to 975 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,839 Speaker 1: get on the field with Jordan Poyter and Micah Hyde 976 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: in the safety roles. But let us know what you 977 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 1: think at eight oh three five fifty open lines for 978 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 1: you this entire hour one eight eight five fifty two 979 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 1: five fifty, or he can hit us up on the 980 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 1: tweet sheet as well. As I mentioned right before the break, 981 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 1: my pick on this list was Devin Singletary. I've been 982 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:28,400 Speaker 1: a big, ardent supporter of his since the Bills drafted 983 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 1: him because in that draft class, the two running backs 984 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 1: that I like the most were Devin and David Montgomery, 985 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 1: who went to Chicago I think one pick right before him, 986 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, in round three. And the 987 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,719 Speaker 1: reason why was because I thought those were the two 988 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: best players with contact, balance and elusiveness, and to me, 989 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,760 Speaker 1: the guys that can most consistently give you four yards 990 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 1: in the NFL or guys that are gonna play a 991 00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: long time, and I think those two guys fit the 992 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:05,360 Speaker 1: Bill the best in that particular draft class, not saying 993 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,919 Speaker 1: the most talented or physically gifted players, but the most 994 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 1: effective players when it came to getting yards after initial 995 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,800 Speaker 1: contact eluding the first tackler. I thought they were aces 996 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: in that category, and I still think that on Devin 997 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 1: Singletary's behalf, and I don't think we should forget that 998 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,720 Speaker 1: in his rookie season when Frank Gore hit the wall 999 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,319 Speaker 1: at age thirty six after carrying a bulk of the 1000 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 1: load early in the twenty nineteen season because Singletary had 1001 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,799 Speaker 1: a hamstring injury and missed four games, Gore got some 1002 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 1: extra work early and the season started. Hit the wall 1003 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 1: come Halloween and they had to put a lot on 1004 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 1: Motor's shoulders and he handled it. And at the end 1005 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 1: of the year, the only guy that averaged more yards 1006 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: per carry than Devin Singletary was his childhood friend whose 1007 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 1: name is Lamar Jackson. There was no running back in 1008 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 1: the league that averaged five point one to carry with 1009 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,800 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty carries or more, and Lamar Jackson 1010 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 1: was the only guy that averaged more yards per him 1011 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 1: yards per carry than him at six point eight, I believe, 1012 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 1: and he won the MVP that year. So I think 1013 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,439 Speaker 1: if given the right opportunity. And I think there's something 1014 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 1: that needs to be said about this too, Steve, because 1015 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: the scheme changed a little bit with the run game, 1016 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 1: less gap, more zone last year. They made a switch, 1017 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 1: and I think the adjustment took him getting used to 1018 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 1: for both Singletary and Moss for that matter. And is 1019 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,319 Speaker 1: it somewhat predicated on opportunity in terms of how much 1020 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,320 Speaker 1: Singletary can break out? Yes, I would say that's true 1021 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 1: because he's got a guy that I think is going 1022 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 1: to get his share of action too. And Zach Moss, 1023 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 1: who is another player that I like who I think 1024 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,320 Speaker 1: is great with contact balance and yards after initial contact. 1025 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 1: But I'm I'm I'm ride motor on this one. Yeah, 1026 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 1: and I can I get it too. And I mean 1027 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 1: I like the other guys, but I'm ride motor. Yeah, 1028 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,399 Speaker 1: I get too. You'd like to see guys who put 1029 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 1: in the work, and he certainly has. I mean, we 1030 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 1: saw the picture just a little bit ago, the guys 1031 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,359 Speaker 1: obviously working really hard at changing his body type, doing 1032 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,919 Speaker 1: some things that to make himself better that nobody else 1033 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,400 Speaker 1: may find out about or know about. You know, the 1034 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 1: way he lands his feet, the way he uses his 1035 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 1: footwork in the hole, takes handoffs, all the subtle things 1036 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: his stride length and where his foot placement is. All 1037 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,840 Speaker 1: of that bio mechanical stuff that you can work on 1038 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 1: in the offseason. With these experts, it's gonna pay dividends, 1039 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 1: and it's easy to see a guy like Devin Singletary 1040 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,760 Speaker 1: having a breakout year. The reason I picked Dawson Knocks 1041 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 1: over Devin Singletary is this is the guys at the position, 1042 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 1: Zach Moss and Matt Brida, two guys that are gonna 1043 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,400 Speaker 1: get their share of carries. We've seen as well that 1044 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: Buffalo likes to use them more than one running back 1045 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 1: during a game, and they go with the hot hand. Now, 1046 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,439 Speaker 1: if Devin sing is the guy that consistently is the guy, 1047 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,720 Speaker 1: they start handing the ball off too, because he's improved 1048 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 1: so much, because it has happened for him this year 1049 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 1: that he's having this breakout year, He's gonna get more 1050 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,360 Speaker 1: carries than Zach Moss or Matt Brito because that's the 1051 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 1: way this team operates. But I think with those guys 1052 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 1: stealing of carry here and there, and there's gonna be 1053 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 1: an occasion where one of those guys has a game 1054 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 1: where maybe you know, it takes some of the luster 1055 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,640 Speaker 1: away from Devin Singletary, but you know, I do think 1056 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna have a much better year than he's had 1057 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 1: in his first two years. And I think it's it's 1058 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 1: admirable what the work he's put in that we've seen. Now. 1059 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 1: Having said that, the reason I picked Dawson Knox is this, 1060 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,480 Speaker 1: I think the decks are cleared for him. And I 1061 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 1: mentioned this earlier in the show. He's kind of the 1062 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,000 Speaker 1: last guy standing at the position, and I think this offense, 1063 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 1: when you look at the big picture, it's an offense 1064 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 1: that went a lot of four wide last year when 1065 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 1: they could they kind of continue to do that. Even 1066 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 1: when John Brown went down, they kind of they Dawson 1067 00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,919 Speaker 1: Knox came back on the field a little bit during 1068 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 1: that time that John Brown was out, got some more work, 1069 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 1: and you know, he was injured, he had COVID, and 1070 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 1: I thought when he did play he made real marked 1071 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 1: improvement in the thing that plagued him that I believe 1072 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 1: Jerry called in and said it was the drops he 1073 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,240 Speaker 1: had in his first year, or maybe it was Dave, 1074 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 1: but Dawson Knox had a problem with drops in his 1075 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 1: first year, and I'm talking like passes that you cannot 1076 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 1: drop as an NFL player. He fixed that and cleaned 1077 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,560 Speaker 1: it up to a great extent. Last year he had 1078 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 1: a couple of drops, and some of them were really 1079 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 1: tough catches, and I did not have the sense if 1080 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,680 Speaker 1: you looked at his second year catches to drops, it 1081 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 1: was a marked different a marked difference in the way 1082 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 1: you felt about each drop than you did in his 1083 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 1: rookie years. Rookie year, they were crushers. Last year not 1084 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 1: so much not that it was good that he dropped him, 1085 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 1: but that it wasn't his fault. Higher degree of good 1086 00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 1: difficulties drop. So we improved there. But I think the opportunity, 1087 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 1: more so than maybe any other player except maybe Ed, 1088 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 1: is going to be there for Dawson Knox to emerge 1089 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 1: and spread his wings and be a bigger part of 1090 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,160 Speaker 1: this offense. And I think this with the passing offense 1091 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 1: and the way they aired out, it's going to happen 1092 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 1: for him. I think they'll be better off with a 1093 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 1: tight end like Dawson Knox who can stay on the 1094 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 1: field on three downs. They'll like that personnel grouping better 1095 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 1: than the four wide personnel group because it'll be more 1096 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 1: productive in the run game. Well, eleven was their number 1097 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 1: one personnel grouping last year. I believe it was seventy. 1098 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think now, I remember what they were 1099 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:42,440 Speaker 1: collectively together. It was ten personnel was like fourteen percent 1100 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 1: of the time, and then eleven personnel, I want to 1101 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 1: say was somewhere around seventy one to seventy two percent 1102 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 1: of the time, because combined they made up about ninety 1103 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 1: five percent of the play calls on offense, it was 1104 00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 1: ten personnel. It was Yeah, the Bills away their number 1105 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 1: one personnel. Eleven four man the four wide was just 1106 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,560 Speaker 1: something that Bills did more than anybody else. They didn't 1107 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 1: do it. I think Arizona was the only team that 1108 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 1: did it more than they did. So and I and 1109 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,920 Speaker 1: so that's the case I make for Dawson Knox's He 1110 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 1: worked hard at it got better this last year and 1111 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 1: I think his opportunity is going to expand this year 1112 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 1: as well. Just gotta stay healthy, really and another thing 1113 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 1: if you want to do we'll go down the list. Yeah, 1114 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 1: what's the case to be. Here's the thing with that, Oliver, 1115 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 1: certainly Starlot Lee is going to help and having pass 1116 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 1: rushers on the outside are going to help, and I 1117 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 1: think Ed is going to be able to play with 1118 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 1: the technique and at the position that he is built 1119 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,480 Speaker 1: to play at the three technique. They move him around 1120 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 1: a lot, they do it, They do it a ton. 1121 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,200 Speaker 1: They had had to last year, and he was asked 1122 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 1: to hold his ground a lot more last year than 1123 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 1: he has been. And I think he's getting to the 1124 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 1: point now, particularly in this third year, where he's going 1125 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,360 Speaker 1: to realize what he can and cannot get away with 1126 01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:00,080 Speaker 1: down inside because he doesn't have length. He does and 1127 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 1: have length, and what he does have his leverage and 1128 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 1: quickness and some power. And you've got to get the 1129 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,160 Speaker 1: offensive lineman in front of you to think that the 1130 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,440 Speaker 1: power is coming, and it's not. It's the quickness, it's 1131 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,520 Speaker 1: the slipperiness, that kind of thing. I think Ed needs 1132 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,760 Speaker 1: to work better with his hands down inside. But I'm 1133 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 1: telling you this, there have been times where the guy 1134 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,480 Speaker 1: does some really good stuff down in there on the 1135 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 1: pass rush, and better things are on the horizon for him. 1136 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,120 Speaker 1: But it's up this year. I think he's going to 1137 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 1: get more of an opportunity in the pass rush because 1138 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:36,360 Speaker 1: of you know, the guys around him, and in the 1139 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,360 Speaker 1: run game, he'll do better, particularly if teams start throwing 1140 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 1: on first and second down, because Star Lotulele will be 1141 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 1: in there. When they get in third and long, they're 1142 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 1: probably gonna have they may have yeah, they or they 1143 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 1: might have a four. They might have bash him, Rousseau, 1144 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:58,640 Speaker 1: Hughes and Addison and let's line it up and go. 1145 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 1: But I think on first, second down, which teams are 1146 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 1: going to throw a lot on those downs, Edg's gonna 1147 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:06,920 Speaker 1: be in there with Starr and that's gonna be a 1148 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,320 Speaker 1: help for him. He's most effective when he can get 1149 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 1: on the shoulder, play on the edge, and he's got 1150 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 1: to square up. I think it's hard for him because 1151 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 1: he can't get he can't he doesn't have the length 1152 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 1: to utilize, you know, to shed the guy and get 1153 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 1: by him. He's got to get right on the edge 1154 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 1: of a player, right on the outside or inside shoulder 1155 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 1: of a guy in a one on one situation. And 1156 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 1: then he's dangerous because he is strong enough to turn 1157 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,680 Speaker 1: a guy's shoulders, get him sliding sideways and opening up 1158 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,480 Speaker 1: their hips to allow a path to the quarterback. That 1159 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:46,440 Speaker 1: seems to be where he's at his most effective. Cody 1160 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,680 Speaker 1: Ford is an interesting case because he's coming off a 1161 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 1: season ending knee injury from last year. You know he's 1162 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,680 Speaker 1: going to be motivated to rebound for from what was 1163 01:02:55,720 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 1: a disappointing season for him personally. And while he seems 1164 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,920 Speaker 1: like a very mellow, even keeled type dude, there is 1165 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 1: a measure of fire in the belly with him once 1166 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 1: the competition starts, and I think we saw that his 1167 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 1: rookie season when there'd be a scuffle or two and 1168 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,640 Speaker 1: he can get heated and start shoving some people around, 1169 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 1: and that's an edge that I think if he can recapture, 1170 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,000 Speaker 1: provided again that he doesn't need too much run up 1171 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,560 Speaker 1: time to get all the way back to full strength, 1172 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,120 Speaker 1: could be interesting to see what he could become. Because 1173 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 1: I believe he's firmly now a full time guard. There 1174 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 1: is going to be no more guard tackle swapping, which 1175 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 1: I think for young players almost compromises their growth more 1176 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 1: than anything else. Give him a bonafide home at one 1177 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 1: position and see how far he can take it. And 1178 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,920 Speaker 1: I think that's the plan going forward with Cody Ford 1179 01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 1: at the guard position exclusively. Yeah, I would like to 1180 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 1: see him play so well at one of those positions. 1181 01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:00,120 Speaker 1: They can't move him exactly. Yeah, and I don't know 1182 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:01,880 Speaker 1: that he's done that yet, and certainly as a rookie, 1183 01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,000 Speaker 1: you can say, listen, and they moved him back and 1184 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,240 Speaker 1: forth because they didn't have anybody else that was playing 1185 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,640 Speaker 1: one of those positions good enough either, and they were 1186 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,840 Speaker 1: kind of they used him as to his credit, they 1187 01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,080 Speaker 1: used him as the stop gap wherever they had a problem. 1188 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,400 Speaker 1: Let's you know, we'll put Cody there at right tackle, 1189 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 1: let right guard, left guard, wherever we need him. And 1190 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,320 Speaker 1: certainly that happened. I think, you know, again last year 1191 01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 1: when Quentin Spain, they hit the eject button on him 1192 01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 1: week five, Cody four plugged in. He got it like 1193 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,480 Speaker 1: his third position in his first two years. Yeah, So 1194 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,439 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like a lot, but it's a lot. 1195 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,720 Speaker 1: It is, and we'll see how that goes for him. 1196 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,640 Speaker 1: But I think it was a testament to his athleticism 1197 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 1: and his ability to play and be versatile, and how 1198 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 1: much better he was than the other options they had, 1199 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 1: that he was the first guy they took took a 1200 01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,000 Speaker 1: chance on to move around when they had injuries and 1201 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:03,440 Speaker 1: other guys so injuries and other things. So there's a 1202 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,160 Speaker 1: chance that Cody Ford could come in and have a 1203 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 1: very good year. But for me, and I did that 1204 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 1: research for those Peyton, Manning, Grinkowski, McCaffrey and John Randall, 1205 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 1: all these guys in their third year. I don't know 1206 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 1: how you evaluate an offensive lineman. There's no statistic you 1207 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,240 Speaker 1: could look at well. And the reason it's so hard 1208 01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:26,480 Speaker 1: is because you don't know what that lineman's assignment was 1209 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,480 Speaker 1: on any given play. I mean, unless you have the 1210 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 1: playbook in front of you and you know the name 1211 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,760 Speaker 1: of the play being executed, and you have how it's 1212 01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 1: drawn up in the book sitting in your lap as 1213 01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 1: you're watching the film, you don't know. I mean, only 1214 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,640 Speaker 1: the coaches can really respectively great old line film. There's 1215 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 1: also a level of playing offensive line that you have 1216 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,440 Speaker 1: to have in context, context with the four other guys 1217 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 1: on that line. For instance, you got to you see 1218 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,440 Speaker 1: a running play and over here you see your right 1219 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:56,160 Speaker 1: tackle absolutely pancake guy, and they wow, that's great, awesome, 1220 01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:57,960 Speaker 1: except for the other four guys. No, that's not the 1221 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:02,360 Speaker 1: guy who was supposed to pancake, you know, so plus 1222 01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,360 Speaker 1: or the right guard pancakes somebody it gets drives a 1223 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,240 Speaker 1: guy off and the left tackle is left hanging because 1224 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,400 Speaker 1: the right because that same right guard who got a 1225 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,080 Speaker 1: nice block didn't relay the call to him or gave 1226 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:16,320 Speaker 1: him the wrong call on the protection. All of that 1227 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,200 Speaker 1: stuff gets mixed into offensive line play. That's why offensive 1228 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 1: lineman buying large are pretty articulate, sharp guys who communicate 1229 01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:28,920 Speaker 1: really well, because that's what they're asked to do. You 1230 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,920 Speaker 1: gotta be thinking. They gotta be thinkers and communicators because 1231 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,760 Speaker 1: if I'm doing this as a guard, I got to 1232 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:35,480 Speaker 1: know the guy on my right, the center, and the 1233 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:39,600 Speaker 1: guy on my left, the tackle, know what I'm doing, 1234 01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 1: and I know what they're doing, and you got to 1235 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:42,960 Speaker 1: talk about that stuff, and you gotta do it and 1236 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 1: split second single word code words, and you all have 1237 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:53,360 Speaker 1: to know exactly the vocabulary you're using. So it's hard 1238 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,920 Speaker 1: to get research and find out who's playing really good 1239 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 1: at offensive line, even if guy's physically dominating his line 1240 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:01,720 Speaker 1: mates maybe looking at each other going what are we 1241 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,959 Speaker 1: going to do with him? You know, it's a hard 1242 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 1: position to evaluate for what you say. You just don't 1243 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,680 Speaker 1: know what they're supposed to be doing and how well 1244 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,360 Speaker 1: they're doing the stuff before the snap, not just after 1245 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,920 Speaker 1: the snap. Let's go to the tweet sheet to get 1246 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,840 Speaker 1: some of your thoughts on who you think is prime 1247 01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,360 Speaker 1: for a breakout season in their third year with the Bills. 1248 01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,920 Speaker 1: Tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the 1249 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,720 Speaker 1: official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. JW. Socks 1250 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,560 Speaker 1: leads us off today, says, I sure hope it's Dawson Knox. 1251 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 1: We don't have a lot of depth at the position. 1252 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,760 Speaker 1: Although Josh looks downfield most of the time, Knox when 1253 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,320 Speaker 1: he's a primary receiver is pretty reliable. We should not 1254 01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:39,160 Speaker 1: dismiss the fact that the Bills did sign Jacob Hollister, 1255 01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, to the roster as a tight end off 1256 01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,480 Speaker 1: of Seattle in free agency. And you know, it's a 1257 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,000 Speaker 1: guy that's been in the league for a little bit 1258 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:54,360 Speaker 1: and knows Josh, former teammate of Josh's and Wyoming, so 1259 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,880 Speaker 1: he knows Josh and he can do a little bit 1260 01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,320 Speaker 1: of everything and had a very good game against the 1261 01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,440 Speaker 1: Bills last year for cl He was the leading receiver 1262 01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 1: in that game. As you know, the Bills focused on 1263 01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,840 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett in the passing game in 1264 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:11,120 Speaker 1: terms of their defensive game plan and Hollister benefited. I 1265 01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 1: think he had like five catches for sixty something yards 1266 01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,080 Speaker 1: and help them move the sticks and at least keep 1267 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,840 Speaker 1: them within shouting distance of the Bills on the scoreboard 1268 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,240 Speaker 1: in a game that wound up being forty four thirty 1269 01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:25,240 Speaker 1: four at the end. So I don't think we should 1270 01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 1: overlook that. I don't know if he's going to supersede 1271 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 1: Knox as the primary passing weapon at the tight end position, 1272 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,160 Speaker 1: but he's certainly capable, and so I don't think he 1273 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,240 Speaker 1: should be dismissed out of hand. I think I think 1274 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:42,520 Speaker 1: he's well. If we're going to oversimplify and generalize, Hollister's 1275 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,719 Speaker 1: a pass catching tight end. He's not a run blocking 1276 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 1: tight end. Now it's not says useless in the running game, 1277 01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,080 Speaker 1: but I would characterize him from what we saw against 1278 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,519 Speaker 1: in Seattle. Yeah, against Buffalo, he was a pass catcher. 1279 01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,840 Speaker 1: But that's what that game degenerated into on both sides, 1280 01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,760 Speaker 1: both offense and the Bills. I mean they didn't they 1281 01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,320 Speaker 1: may as well not even dressed motor single terrier. Didn't 1282 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,559 Speaker 1: Zach Moss that day, not unless they were split wide, right. 1283 01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,600 Speaker 1: I think they threw it like what was it seventeen 1284 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,519 Speaker 1: times in the first seventeen plays. I mean they threw 1285 01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,960 Speaker 1: a man. I think they ran it three times in 1286 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,000 Speaker 1: the first half, only two of which ye, because Pete 1287 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,000 Speaker 1: Carroll after the game said, well, I thought they'd run 1288 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 1: it at some point. They'd at least try to run 1289 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:26,000 Speaker 1: it at some point. Yeah, Because he was roundly criticized 1290 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,040 Speaker 1: for there. He was roundly criticized saying that too. He says, 1291 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,639 Speaker 1: you gotta be ready, people's he just signed an extension, 1292 01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,160 Speaker 1: so he didn't ye, pretty safe he was. He was 1293 01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,920 Speaker 1: fine with being candid. Joel on the tweet sheet says, 1294 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,280 Speaker 1: I think there are too many options in the passing 1295 01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,519 Speaker 1: game for it to be Knox. Could be ed with 1296 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,679 Speaker 1: Starr coming back, but I think it will be Devin. 1297 01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,720 Speaker 1: He's putting in the work this offseason and looking like 1298 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,799 Speaker 1: a beast. He is looking like a beast. But again, 1299 01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:59,680 Speaker 1: much like Joel describes for Knox, you know, maybe not 1300 01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:01,640 Speaker 1: being the number one, two or three option in the 1301 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:05,040 Speaker 1: passing game, Singletary's ability to break out is going to 1302 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,320 Speaker 1: be predicated on his opportunities as well. Now with you know, 1303 01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,080 Speaker 1: not only with Zach Moss in the backfield, but who 1304 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:13,599 Speaker 1: knows how and where Matt Breed is going to fit into. 1305 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,840 Speaker 1: So he could be a victim of circumstance as well, 1306 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,920 Speaker 1: much like you described with Knox, Joel. So it'd be 1307 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,680 Speaker 1: interesting to see how the pecking order and the opportunity 1308 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,320 Speaker 1: shakes out. And I agree with you, Steve. I think 1309 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,080 Speaker 1: it's good for the running backs anyway, and Devin Singletary's 1310 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,360 Speaker 1: case here, I think it's going to be largely it's 1311 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,719 Speaker 1: going to largely hinge on who has the hot hand 1312 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,160 Speaker 1: in any given game, provided they're even running the ball 1313 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 1: with any measure of regularity. And it might be two 1314 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,439 Speaker 1: who doesn't make any mistakes. We saw that's just the 1315 01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,639 Speaker 1: ball better. Yeah, it might be whoever, because if we've 1316 01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,920 Speaker 1: seen too that either one of those guys, both Devin 1317 01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,960 Speaker 1: and Zach Moss, you make a mistake in the game, 1318 01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:56,120 Speaker 1: you get benched. I mean it's almost like Parcelian the 1319 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:59,080 Speaker 1: way he did. Is that a word Bill Parcells for me? 1320 01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:03,040 Speaker 1: Because in the Arizona game, Zach Moss coughed it up 1321 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:04,720 Speaker 1: coming out of our own end zone. They handed it 1322 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,120 Speaker 1: to him on a dive play, trying to get a 1323 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,719 Speaker 1: little room. He coughed it up. Turns into a touchdown 1324 01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,240 Speaker 1: for Arizona. He didn't see the field again until late 1325 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:15,200 Speaker 1: in the fourth same thing with Devin Singletary. He comes 1326 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,519 Speaker 1: out and drops that swing past. In the AC Championship game, 1327 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,559 Speaker 1: he sits, I didn't see the field till the latter 1328 01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:24,439 Speaker 1: stages of the fourth quarter. Sean McDermot, don't play. I 1329 01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:28,320 Speaker 1: mean that. That's an amazing thought, because that that is 1330 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,479 Speaker 1: like Bill Parcels, he used to do it when a 1331 01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,360 Speaker 1: guy fumbled. You're on the bench until that guy fumbles. 1332 01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,599 Speaker 1: And he stays in this game and the next game too, 1333 01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,639 Speaker 1: And as long as he stays in there and doesn't fumble, 1334 01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:44,120 Speaker 1: he's the guy. And that is a loud message not 1335 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:48,080 Speaker 1: to fumble the ball. It's an unmistakable one. There's no 1336 01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 1: missing that message. Yeah, and I that guy goes under 1337 01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,880 Speaker 1: the radar. People don't because doing the games on radio 1338 01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:56,840 Speaker 1: I was, you kind of become more sensitive to it. 1339 01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:01,840 Speaker 1: It's like, where's Singletary. Yeah, he's not slinging back in 1340 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,240 Speaker 1: for a bit, he's well, he dropped that pass, and 1341 01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,959 Speaker 1: really you think that's it? And sure enough, that's exactly 1342 01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,800 Speaker 1: what he's feeling him right now this offseason. Yeah, you 1343 01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,840 Speaker 1: think he's not running those extra gasers, saying I am 1344 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,679 Speaker 1: not or catching extra balls off the jug machine, saying 1345 01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:22,120 Speaker 1: I am not getting benched for my performance again. That 1346 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,280 Speaker 1: is what he is saying every day, maybe on those 1347 01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,799 Speaker 1: days where he doesn't feel like doing an extra fifteen 1348 01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,120 Speaker 1: minutes on the jugs machine, maybe the day where his 1349 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,720 Speaker 1: legs are sore and he doesn't want to put the 1350 01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,240 Speaker 1: work in or go do squats and have a leg 1351 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,920 Speaker 1: day after he saw the day before. He's doing it 1352 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,639 Speaker 1: because he doesn't want that to happen again. That's his motivation. 1353 01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,639 Speaker 1: It's a hard place to get mentally because people say, well, 1354 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,559 Speaker 1: you don't want those guys out there afraid of making 1355 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:49,800 Speaker 1: a mistake. That's the wrong way to look at it. 1356 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,680 Speaker 1: And that's the mentality. You don't want him to have 1357 01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,720 Speaker 1: no question about it. But first things first, you want 1358 01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,880 Speaker 1: him to play mistake free and to be able to 1359 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,400 Speaker 1: play as good as they can possible play. But first 1360 01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:05,439 Speaker 1: things first, you secure the football and then play and 1361 01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:09,800 Speaker 1: then cut loose. But you can't if they're a guy 1362 01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,080 Speaker 1: who's gonna say, well, I'm just gonna take it easy. 1363 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm's gonna make sure this catch and I'm gonna go 1364 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,760 Speaker 1: you know, can't start to play. If you start doing that, 1365 01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,160 Speaker 1: you're not going to be a professional athlete very long. 1366 01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:25,639 Speaker 1: Your mindset has to be actively aggressive while doing the 1367 01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:30,240 Speaker 1: basics of your job flawlessly. And that's where that's when 1368 01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:31,719 Speaker 1: you can get to a place where you don't fumble, 1369 01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:33,599 Speaker 1: you don't cough it up, you don't drop an easy pass. 1370 01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 1: You do what you do fundamentally so well that you 1371 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,800 Speaker 1: don't have to think about it. And that takes a 1372 01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,320 Speaker 1: lot of practice and a lot of rep and a 1373 01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:46,000 Speaker 1: lot of concentration. Tiffany on the tweet sheet says, Motor 1374 01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,000 Speaker 1: has put in the work this offseason. He looks like 1375 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,360 Speaker 1: a different person. He's packed on some serious muscle. I'm 1376 01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,599 Speaker 1: betting on him taking the role of our featured running back. 1377 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,559 Speaker 1: I believe the team passed on a running back in 1378 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:59,320 Speaker 1: the draft because they believe in Devin. It's definitely a 1379 01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:02,720 Speaker 1: vote coffid. I mean, not only did the Bills not 1380 01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,320 Speaker 1: drafted running back in round one, in Draft one at all, 1381 01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,639 Speaker 1: and then even signed one as an undrafted rookie. Think 1382 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,680 Speaker 1: about it. Think about that. There's no position that they 1383 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,559 Speaker 1: didn't bring in some competition, even tied end with Hollister 1384 01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:18,479 Speaker 1: running back with Matt Brida. The offensive line, Oh my gosh, 1385 01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:22,160 Speaker 1: they drafted to three kids. The defensive line. They drafted 1386 01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:29,799 Speaker 1: two pass rushers with the first two picks. Nobody. Hello, 1387 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:35,920 Speaker 1: you know the only cornerback they haven't drafted. I didn't. 1388 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,120 Speaker 1: They got plenty of corners. I think now they got 1389 01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 1: wild Goose late. They got wild Goose late in the draft. Linebacker. 1390 01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,120 Speaker 1: Maybe you can say, well, they didn't, you know, but 1391 01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,400 Speaker 1: they just signed the tryout player Joe Giles Harris. It's 1392 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,800 Speaker 1: got two years in the league. They signed guys to 1393 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,120 Speaker 1: come in and compete at every single position, and we've 1394 01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:59,320 Speaker 1: seen it. They get a chance. They're not they don't 1395 01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:01,720 Speaker 1: just signed as camp bodies. They're gonna get a chance 1396 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,719 Speaker 1: to compete, and it's uh. It has served them well 1397 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,679 Speaker 1: during the course of the preseasons and building their roster 1398 01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:12,639 Speaker 1: from the from the bottom end up. Break time for 1399 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,840 Speaker 1: us here, but when we come back, more of your 1400 01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:16,800 Speaker 1: thoughts on the tweet sheet open phone lines at eight 1401 01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:20,639 Speaker 1: oh three five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty 1402 01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,080 Speaker 1: two five fifty can have a little bit of fun 1403 01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:26,599 Speaker 1: in the next half hour as well as NBC Sports 1404 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:33,799 Speaker 1: dot Com had an interesting head coach quarterback combination and 1405 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,920 Speaker 1: it involves wrestling, So we'll let you know about that 1406 01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,479 Speaker 1: when we return here on One Bills Live, presented by 1407 01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:53,840 Speaker 1: Kellid to Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back 1408 01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,200 Speaker 1: to One Bills Live. Chris Brown see tasker with you 1409 01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:02,680 Speaker 1: and found a fun exercise that was put together by 1410 01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:08,160 Speaker 1: Chris Simms and actually came from one of his listeners. 1411 01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:11,160 Speaker 1: He's got a segment on his podcast, his Unbuttoned podcast 1412 01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,599 Speaker 1: that is called Ask Me Anything, and somebody asked him 1413 01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:20,599 Speaker 1: which head coach quarterback combination would win a royal rumble 1414 01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:27,559 Speaker 1: in wrestling and wrestling not collegiate wrestling, right, So there's 1415 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,960 Speaker 1: a there's a bit of showmanship to what we're contemplating here, 1416 01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,479 Speaker 1: and I wanted to, uh, well, I'm stealing it from them, 1417 01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,280 Speaker 1: but I wanted to partake in this exercise and I 1418 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:39,080 Speaker 1: have invited Steve to join us as well on this 1419 01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:44,800 Speaker 1: because it brings about some interesting considerations because you're talking 1420 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:48,680 Speaker 1: about a tag team situation here, Like a lot of 1421 01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:52,560 Speaker 1: people would immediately gravitate to Cam Newton knowing the Adonis 1422 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,840 Speaker 1: that he is. I mean, he's a freakazoid when it 1423 01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,240 Speaker 1: comes to the human form, but he's also got a 1424 01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:03,000 Speaker 1: sixty nine year old head coach who you know, I 1425 01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,160 Speaker 1: don't know how well he's going to do in that 1426 01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:09,120 Speaker 1: kind of scenarioy kind of guy, right, So I don't 1427 01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not worried about that tandem because of that, 1428 01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,960 Speaker 1: Belichick brings it down considerable, one guy out, both out. 1429 01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:19,599 Speaker 1: I mean, he could craft probably a master strategy as 1430 01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,160 Speaker 1: to what would work in a Royal rumble scenario after 1431 01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,960 Speaker 1: watching god knows how much tape, but I don't know 1432 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,040 Speaker 1: if he's going to be able to effectively execute it 1433 01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:31,960 Speaker 1: with Cam. The most I see Bill Belichick doing in 1434 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:35,559 Speaker 1: that situation, like Cam's got a guy that he's squared 1435 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:39,200 Speaker 1: up with, and Belichick helps most by getting down on 1436 01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,760 Speaker 1: all fours behind the other guy so Cam can push 1437 01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:45,520 Speaker 1: him over him. Like that's where I see him assisting. 1438 01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:49,800 Speaker 1: There's a couple that it's funny too, because you always think, yeah, 1439 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,400 Speaker 1: the young like Josh would be really good compliment to 1440 01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:55,240 Speaker 1: McDermott that kind of thing. I think they'd give people 1441 01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:56,960 Speaker 1: a run for their money. I mean, you're talking about 1442 01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:01,080 Speaker 1: a three time state wrestling champ in high school in McDermott, 1443 01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:05,360 Speaker 1: and you're talking about a giant human in Josh Allen, 1444 01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:09,400 Speaker 1: who was a multi sport athlete in high school. So 1445 01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:14,400 Speaker 1: I think they're a formidable pair as far as the 1446 01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:17,400 Speaker 1: best duo that you could add to the mixed here. 1447 01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:19,280 Speaker 1: I mean, do you want to know who's out of 1448 01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:24,720 Speaker 1: the ring first? Steve? Who it's Shanahan and Garoppolo? Do 1449 01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:26,840 Speaker 1: you think, well, Garoppolo is going to turn an ankle 1450 01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,320 Speaker 1: as soon as he steps through the bropes. And then 1451 01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:35,879 Speaker 1: Shanahan I mean Shanahan, Yeah, he belongs on a skateboard. 1452 01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:39,479 Speaker 1: The rest ones you don't want to know. You don't 1453 01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:45,160 Speaker 1: know who I think goes out first? Ba and TB twelve, Yeah, 1454 01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:48,360 Speaker 1: that's another that's another week. Tan. Yeah he Bruce arians 1455 01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,559 Speaker 1: will be out of breath in about fifteen seconds, might 1456 01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,880 Speaker 1: not survive it. And TB twelve would have a huge 1457 01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,360 Speaker 1: target on him to begin with. Right, and let's just 1458 01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,320 Speaker 1: say the musculature is not there. He's a tall dude, 1459 01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:04,439 Speaker 1: yeah tall, Yeah, I don't know how strong he is? Uh? 1460 01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:09,479 Speaker 1: And then yeah, a sneaky good combination. I was thinking 1461 01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:16,559 Speaker 1: Matt Naggy justin Fields Nike. He strikes me as a 1462 01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,519 Speaker 1: as a kind of a raw guy, a wiry guy. 1463 01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,680 Speaker 1: You know why that wiry strong? Yeah, kind of the 1464 01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:26,640 Speaker 1: country strong. Really Yeah, I just off the top of 1465 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,080 Speaker 1: my head, I was thinking that, I don't I don't 1466 01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,519 Speaker 1: know if I can get there. Mike McCarthy and Dak 1467 01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:36,000 Speaker 1: might be a Dak Prescott. Dak can hold his own physically. 1468 01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:39,040 Speaker 1: McCarthy's got to catch it too. Big McCarthy's got to 1469 01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:42,920 Speaker 1: catch you though, before he can sit on you. Yeah, 1470 01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,400 Speaker 1: but I don't know if he's catching you know, McCarthy 1471 01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,920 Speaker 1: and Dak. That's not bad. That's not bad. I don't 1472 01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:53,639 Speaker 1: hate that. Um what about Urban Meyer and Trevor Lawrence? 1473 01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:57,160 Speaker 1: What do we think of that? Lawrence is like six six, 1474 01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:00,880 Speaker 1: he's not filled out, but yeah, he's long. He does 1475 01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't lose. Those two guys don't lose my I 1476 01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:07,639 Speaker 1: think my top pair, my top pair is Mike Vrabel, 1477 01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:15,120 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill. Tannehill former wide receiver. Okay, so you're thinking 1478 01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,960 Speaker 1: like athletic athleticism, athleticism on him and Vrabel is just 1479 01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,680 Speaker 1: he's a big human. He's a big dude, and he's 1480 01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:25,200 Speaker 1: kind of halfway you know, young enough for these head coaches. 1481 01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you get you know, I don't know how 1482 01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:34,320 Speaker 1: do you how do you quantify this guy? Brandon Staley 1483 01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,240 Speaker 1: and Justin Herbert? You know who else is out quick? 1484 01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:45,200 Speaker 1: Stefanski and Mayfield? Yeah, that might be. I mean, Mayfield 1485 01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:49,040 Speaker 1: might be biting your ankle, but you're you're throwing him 1486 01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,400 Speaker 1: out of the ring pretty quick. And Stefanski is going 1487 01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,639 Speaker 1: to be too busy, you know, working his slide rule, 1488 01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:56,280 Speaker 1: then he will be fighting you. Yeah. What about Dan 1489 01:20:56,360 --> 01:21:00,439 Speaker 1: Campbell Jared Goff? Now, Jared Goff's the weak link. Goff 1490 01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:04,200 Speaker 1: is the weak link. Goff is the professional athlete is 1491 01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:07,599 Speaker 1: by far he is unquestionably the weak link. Goff might 1492 01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,080 Speaker 1: not be able to figure out how to step through 1493 01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,880 Speaker 1: the ropes. Campbell may may have been, may have bitten 1494 01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,559 Speaker 1: off so many hunks of people that Goff may be 1495 01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:18,080 Speaker 1: able to just stand there and watch. Yeah, Campbell, he 1496 01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,280 Speaker 1: might have to put Campbell on a leash. Campbell might 1497 01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,519 Speaker 1: be the number one seed head coach. Uh. Yeah, him 1498 01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:27,439 Speaker 1: and verybel are pretty close. What about rivera a little 1499 01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:29,560 Speaker 1: too old? I think run's yeah, I think runs on 1500 01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:34,280 Speaker 1: the backside of sixty. That makes it tough for him. Harbaugh, 1501 01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,800 Speaker 1: Harball and Lamar what do we think of that? Harball's tough, 1502 01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:41,640 Speaker 1: he's young, gritty, he's got gritty, he's he's he's in 1503 01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:49,120 Speaker 1: his fifties too, though, I mean he's Lamar is you know, slippery. 1504 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:51,719 Speaker 1: He would slip out of you know, holds and whatever, 1505 01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:53,479 Speaker 1: and Lamar would be the end of some of those 1506 01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:55,920 Speaker 1: guys for sure. But I don't know if he's gotta 1507 01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,400 Speaker 1: If Jackson has a patent, didn't move, I'm on board, 1508 01:21:58,479 --> 01:21:59,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, if he has a goat, 1509 01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:03,040 Speaker 1: he's gotta go to move that doesn't fail off even 1510 01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:06,160 Speaker 1: at two hundred and ten pounds. Yeah, you know he's slippery. 1511 01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:07,880 Speaker 1: I can tell you what. Josh is a hard one 1512 01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:11,280 Speaker 1: to get past though. Yeah, Josh and Cam Newton, I would, 1513 01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:13,120 Speaker 1: I would. Let's see here, let's try to come up 1514 01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:18,040 Speaker 1: with a final four. We're about Ben Tomlin and Roethlisberger. 1515 01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:20,400 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. It's a good, pretty good pair. Yeah, 1516 01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:24,800 Speaker 1: size got some toughness. That's strong. That's a strong one. Uh, 1517 01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:28,439 Speaker 1: let's try to come up with a final four. Okay, 1518 01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:31,880 Speaker 1: So I think we're we're unanimous on Vrabel, Tannehill and 1519 01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:35,080 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell Jared Goff Is that are they high enough 1520 01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:40,799 Speaker 1: on this? I don't McVay Stafford. No, Stafford's older than McVeigh. 1521 01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:44,240 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, McVay. Stafford is not getting it done 1522 01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:47,719 Speaker 1: for me either. Mcvay's pretty put together. But Andy Reid 1523 01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:52,120 Speaker 1: and Mahomes it's like King Kong Bundy and Andy won't 1524 01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,080 Speaker 1: survive it. I think she's I think it's a heart 1525 01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:56,320 Speaker 1: attack unless he pins you on a turnbuckle and he 1526 01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:59,040 Speaker 1: might suffocate. Yeah. I mean if if he's got to 1527 01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:02,840 Speaker 1: go to move, he put you in a sleeper and 1528 01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:07,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna say no, I'm gonna go. I think it's Vabel, Tannehill, 1529 01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:13,519 Speaker 1: Tomlin and Ben probably are in the Brian Flores Tua 1530 01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:18,200 Speaker 1: Flores is cut up, yeah, and two has got yeah 1531 01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:22,680 Speaker 1: though yeah no, why not? I can't get there. To me, 1532 01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:27,360 Speaker 1: that's a weaker combination than Campbell and Gough. I like 1533 01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:31,240 Speaker 1: Flores Flores would be in my top five coaches. Yeah, 1534 01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:35,559 Speaker 1: what about Sneaky Sneaky? I both guys got some size, uh, 1535 01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:40,880 Speaker 1: Joe Judge, Daniel Jones. Judge and Jones, he got some 1536 01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:43,560 Speaker 1: good size there both man. Jones is like a choirboy, 1537 01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:47,080 Speaker 1: though I don't know who he's hurting. Jones would stumble 1538 01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:48,960 Speaker 1: as he'd like he did on his eighty yard oh 1539 01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,439 Speaker 1: no score, he'd come in for the kill shot. And 1540 01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,080 Speaker 1: Judge is as serious as a heart attack. But Joe 1541 01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,639 Speaker 1: Judge has got a good ring name, you know. Yeah, 1542 01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,360 Speaker 1: that's right, Joe Judge, Jury and Execution and here like 1543 01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,320 Speaker 1: that could be his name or something something like that. 1544 01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:08,320 Speaker 1: Like there's some of these like Matt Lafleur, Aaron Rodgers, 1545 01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:13,840 Speaker 1: now Matt Rule, Sam Darnold. Um, you know what I 1546 01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:18,920 Speaker 1: would have liked Carol and Russ Us hell no pizza, 1547 01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:26,080 Speaker 1: pizza almost seventy What does Russ call himself? Mister? Um? 1548 01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,040 Speaker 1: What the hell was he saying with his stupids Twitter 1549 01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:33,840 Speaker 1: like danger Us? No it was what was he saying? Mister? 1550 01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,519 Speaker 1: I can't remember. I can't remember the damn thing he 1551 01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:41,120 Speaker 1: was doing with that video last year, unmatchable or mister 1552 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:46,280 Speaker 1: un something like that. I can't remember God's terror, Nick Sirianni, 1553 01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:54,960 Speaker 1: mister unlimit limited. There you go, mister unlimited. Dermott Josh 1554 01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,880 Speaker 1: might be up there. That's my top they're my top four. 1555 01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:01,720 Speaker 1: So it's verybel Tannehill like m Allen, Matt Ryan, No, 1556 01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:08,479 Speaker 1: Tomlin and Ben. It's it's not uh, it's not Deshaun 1557 01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:13,120 Speaker 1: Watson and Cully I'm my buddy. Frank Rich and Carson Wentz. 1558 01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm Frank little too stiff. Yeah, I know him as 1559 01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:18,600 Speaker 1: an athlete, like getting a little rickety. Yeah, he's my 1560 01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:25,840 Speaker 1: age so uh, Michael Laflour and Aaron Rodgers. What about Gruden? 1561 01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:31,120 Speaker 1: Thank your Gruden's up scrappy? Oh Gruden and car Gruden 1562 01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:34,320 Speaker 1: doesn't have much size. No he doesn't, you know, he doesn't. 1563 01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,240 Speaker 1: It's another guy that I see, you know, biting somebody's ankles. 1564 01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,800 Speaker 1: He might fight dirty. I don't know what kind of guy. 1565 01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:45,240 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor is instance that. Yeah, that's a note for me. 1566 01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:50,280 Speaker 1: But Joe Joe Burrows Yeah, crafty, yeah, crafty, But I 1567 01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:52,880 Speaker 1: don't think he's got enough to carry Joe. I'm kind 1568 01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,759 Speaker 1: of I'm kind of in his cigar smoking Joe. Yeah. 1569 01:25:55,800 --> 01:26:04,200 Speaker 1: I can see why Kingsbury and Murray too small. They 1570 01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:07,400 Speaker 1: don't have enough size across the board. Murray's what an 1571 01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:11,439 Speaker 1: inch or too taller than you. Murray's a hood ornament. Yeah, 1572 01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:15,479 Speaker 1: And Kingsbury just doesn't have the girth. He's like Shanahan, 1573 01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:17,800 Speaker 1: He's built like they're young. Though, Man, you think about that, 1574 01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:19,400 Speaker 1: you get in there if they're if this, if this, 1575 01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:23,720 Speaker 1: if this battle Royale goes ten minutes, half of these 1576 01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:26,840 Speaker 1: guys are gonna be like just getting out. They can't. 1577 01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:35,719 Speaker 1: They're they're gonna be out of breath. And Locke Fancie 1578 01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,559 Speaker 1: would be one of those guys. Fanjoe's in my bottom five, 1579 01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:42,120 Speaker 1: Andy Reids in my bottom five. Pete Carroll's in my 1580 01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:49,880 Speaker 1: just barely though, because he's pretty fit. Belichick, David Culley 1581 01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:58,800 Speaker 1: from Houston, Siriani and Hurts. No, yeah, I may have 1582 01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,559 Speaker 1: to go. So these are these are my top three, 1583 01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:06,080 Speaker 1: verybel Tannehill, McDermott, Allen Tomlin and Big Ben. I need 1584 01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:09,720 Speaker 1: a fourth I may. I think it's Matt Nage and 1585 01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,360 Speaker 1: Justin Fields. Matt Right, I will differ with you there. 1586 01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm going hardball Lamar. They don't have much size. I 1587 01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:20,479 Speaker 1: think the slipperiness of Lamar would be be troublesome even 1588 01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,240 Speaker 1: in a ring. Maybe. I think if he's got a 1589 01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,800 Speaker 1: patented move that puts him over the top. Maybe, all right, 1590 01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:28,519 Speaker 1: we have to take a break. That was fun. Hey, 1591 01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,640 Speaker 1: what the hell else are you gonna do in mid May? Right, 1592 01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,000 Speaker 1: we have to take a break. When we come back. 1593 01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,160 Speaker 1: More of your thoughts on the tweet sheet. And don't 1594 01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:38,040 Speaker 1: forget Kevin Clark from the Ringer coming up in our 1595 01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,800 Speaker 1: number three of the show, NFL writer for Them. We'll 1596 01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:42,400 Speaker 1: be back in a moment here on One Bill's Live, 1597 01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:57,200 Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome 1598 01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,920 Speaker 1: to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Task were with you. 1599 01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:07,200 Speaker 1: Wanted to bring to your attention the upcoming episode of Embedded, 1600 01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:10,040 Speaker 1: the latest in the Embedded series, will be coming your 1601 01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:13,719 Speaker 1: way tomorrow at seven pm and all the Bills social channels. 1602 01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,599 Speaker 1: I know you saw it earlier, right, I did see 1603 01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:21,120 Speaker 1: a preview of it, and you know it's it's the 1604 01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:26,920 Speaker 1: normal fantastic content that Michelle Girardi, Zoe Walton her crew 1605 01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:31,720 Speaker 1: over at PSC do time and time again. They put 1606 01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:35,600 Speaker 1: together another great episode, this one obviously dealing with the 1607 01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:39,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one NFL draft for the Bills. Exclusive footage 1608 01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:43,080 Speaker 1: inside the draft room. Get to hear some conversations in there, 1609 01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, Brandon being the general manager, kind of walks 1610 01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:48,400 Speaker 1: you through some of the stuff. You get some behind 1611 01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:51,080 Speaker 1: the scenes looks at the players come into One Bill's 1612 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,000 Speaker 1: Drive after they've been drafted and meeting people for the 1613 01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:58,559 Speaker 1: first time some offseason workout footage of what these players 1614 01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,960 Speaker 1: were doing leading up to the draft. So really an 1615 01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:07,960 Speaker 1: all encompassing look at the Bill's draft from a multiple 1616 01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:13,840 Speaker 1: multiple different perspectives, player perspective, coach perspective, front office perspective, 1617 01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:17,200 Speaker 1: ownership perspective. They kind of cover all the basis. Yeah, 1618 01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:22,240 Speaker 1: and you get some back live conversations leading up to 1619 01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:26,200 Speaker 1: the picks, watch the reaction of the guys in which 1620 01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:28,200 Speaker 1: you know a lot of us have seen for but 1621 01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:30,840 Speaker 1: you don't get a chance to listen to the conversations 1622 01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:34,040 Speaker 1: that happened in the room right before they picked these guys. 1623 01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:37,479 Speaker 1: The one that got me being just turns around, points 1624 01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:41,320 Speaker 1: his finger off, Cameron goes call Russo. Yeah, as soon 1625 01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:44,280 Speaker 1: as they're on the clock, he goes call Russo. And 1626 01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:50,679 Speaker 1: that was pretty cool. And the very scenario that Brandon 1627 01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:56,679 Speaker 1: Being brought up in his post draft press conference where 1628 01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:58,679 Speaker 1: he said, yes, we did have a chance to move 1629 01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:03,240 Speaker 1: back on day two in round two, but we were 1630 01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,280 Speaker 1: only going to do it if the one guy we 1631 01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:08,360 Speaker 1: had left on our board was off the board. And 1632 01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:13,080 Speaker 1: as Brandon told us, that was Boogie Basham, And there's 1633 01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:14,519 Speaker 1: some great footage of that. I don't want to give 1634 01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:16,800 Speaker 1: it away, but there's really good footage of how that 1635 01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:20,400 Speaker 1: all came to pass. Suffice to say, Brandon was bang 1636 01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:23,639 Speaker 1: on with his description of what went down, but seeing 1637 01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,880 Speaker 1: it kind of gives it a new life. You'll be 1638 01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:30,520 Speaker 1: able to catch this at seven pm tomorrow night on YouTube, Facebook, 1639 01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:34,880 Speaker 1: and Buffalo Bills dot com. And it's it's fun is 1640 01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:40,160 Speaker 1: the conversations right before they make these picks. And it's 1641 01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:45,439 Speaker 1: obvious Boogie was the guy that they were waiting on. 1642 01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:47,840 Speaker 1: They were on the phone with some other undy. We 1643 01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:49,960 Speaker 1: never find out who the team was. They were going 1644 01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:53,120 Speaker 1: to trade out of that pick, and they was gonna happen, 1645 01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:55,240 Speaker 1: and he says, if our guys here, and we'll make 1646 01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:57,240 Speaker 1: the deal. But if our guy falls to us, which 1647 01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:01,479 Speaker 1: we don't think he's going to, then we will make 1648 01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:03,800 Speaker 1: the trade. And you know these times, and they got 1649 01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:05,240 Speaker 1: the team right ahead of them, which I don't know 1650 01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:08,200 Speaker 1: who was. Was it that New Orleans or somebody, and 1651 01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,120 Speaker 1: they and New Orleans takes their guy and he goes out, 1652 01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:11,840 Speaker 1: you know what, our guys still there. We're gonna we 1653 01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:16,920 Speaker 1: can't take the deal. So thanks, sorry, sorry, and they 1654 01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,599 Speaker 1: called they called Boogie bash him and it's really fun 1655 01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:21,280 Speaker 1: because it's really genuine and some of the you know, 1656 01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:25,040 Speaker 1: we always you know, you always susp you're suspicious of 1657 01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:29,280 Speaker 1: what you're told about what they really think. But in 1658 01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,840 Speaker 1: this instance it was held up. Boogie was their guy, 1659 01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,320 Speaker 1: and they were waiting on him all the way to 1660 01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:37,280 Speaker 1: the end, and they were gonna if he wasn't there, 1661 01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:40,240 Speaker 1: they were trading and he fell to them and they 1662 01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:43,000 Speaker 1: were happy about it. So it's pretty cool to see 1663 01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:45,360 Speaker 1: that because so many times were kind of jaded in 1664 01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:48,519 Speaker 1: the company. Line of the coaches said this, and well, 1665 01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:50,320 Speaker 1: I wonder if they really liked the guy or they 1666 01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,240 Speaker 1: didn't like it. It was genuine. You can see that 1667 01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:54,920 Speaker 1: the stuff behind the scenes were Yeah, they were like 1668 01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:58,840 Speaker 1: sitting there nodding their heads, kind of patting their hands together, 1669 01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:00,719 Speaker 1: going okay, is he gonna make it? Are we gonna 1670 01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:02,679 Speaker 1: get there? And they got a guy, I mean, Joe 1671 01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,800 Speaker 1: Shane's on the phone. It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool, 1672 01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:10,000 Speaker 1: and it's always cool to see those guys. It's inspiring. 1673 01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:13,960 Speaker 1: It's fun and to see those young kids react. And 1674 01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,920 Speaker 1: we should mention one Bill's Live does make a cameo 1675 01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:21,040 Speaker 1: appearance in the episode. Yes we do, so be sure 1676 01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:23,040 Speaker 1: to check it out tomorrow seven pm on all the 1677 01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:27,360 Speaker 1: Bills social media channels, the latest edition of Embedded. We 1678 01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:29,400 Speaker 1: have to take a break here, but when we come back, 1679 01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:32,680 Speaker 1: NFL writer from The Ringer Kevin Clark will join us. 1680 01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:37,080 Speaker 1: He'll have his take on how the Aaron Rodgers situation 1681 01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:40,519 Speaker 1: in Green Bay ends up, and we'll talk to him 1682 01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:44,000 Speaker 1: about a couple of other things concerning the NFL off 1683 01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:47,559 Speaker 1: season and some Bills related stuff as well as it 1684 01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:49,639 Speaker 1: pertains to the schedule. We'll cover all that with Kevin 1685 01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:52,080 Speaker 1: Clark next here on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health, 1686 01:32:52,120 --> 01:33:11,680 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio Ada Steve Tasker, who has been 1687 01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:14,040 Speaker 1: all over the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind 1688 01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:19,679 Speaker 1: of a dual role player for you. Steve, Steve a blimp. 1689 01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:23,559 Speaker 1: We're not even in the straded beere of normalcy here. 1690 01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:28,880 Speaker 1: It's our number three on a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve 1691 01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:32,479 Speaker 1: Tasker with you One Bill's Live is the show and 1692 01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:35,719 Speaker 1: joining us now here in the third hour, NFL writer 1693 01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:37,639 Speaker 1: for The Ringer, also the host of The Ringer Slow 1694 01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:41,360 Speaker 1: Newsday and The Ringer NFL Show podcast. It is one 1695 01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:44,800 Speaker 1: Kevin Clark joining us here. Kevin thanks for doing that. 1696 01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:48,920 Speaker 1: We appreciate the time. How is the NFL offseason treating you? 1697 01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:52,880 Speaker 1: Are we ready for NFLPA? NFL headbutting over what the 1698 01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:57,080 Speaker 1: off season is going to look like? Well, there is 1699 01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:59,080 Speaker 1: no off season, you guys know this. I thought i'd 1700 01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:01,120 Speaker 1: get some relaxation and him in the day of the draft. 1701 01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:05,280 Speaker 1: So the way that sort of the NFL media, I 1702 01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:07,519 Speaker 1: guess you would say schedule works is that after the 1703 01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:11,120 Speaker 1: draft there's a lull. But Adam Schefter at three PM 1704 01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:13,679 Speaker 1: on Draft Day says, oh, by the way, Aaron Rodgers 1705 01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,280 Speaker 1: once out of Green Bay, so that ends the lull. 1706 01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:19,280 Speaker 1: So no, there is no offseason, but we're trying the 1707 01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:21,519 Speaker 1: best you can. Yeah, and if as you watch the 1708 01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:25,400 Speaker 1: sun offseason unfold, it's starting to look a little bit 1709 01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:29,000 Speaker 1: more like like the NBA a little bit. You got 1710 01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:34,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers making big waves and not even talking about it, 1711 01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:39,440 Speaker 1: Russ Wilson making some waves in Seattle early in the offseason, 1712 01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:43,280 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson saying he will not play for the Houston Texans, 1713 01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:45,760 Speaker 1: and then and then you know, everything came apart in 1714 01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:48,040 Speaker 1: Houston around him in his personal life. So that's all 1715 01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:49,680 Speaker 1: going on. But it's starting to get to a point 1716 01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:53,200 Speaker 1: where great players, particularly in this case quarterbacks, are starting 1717 01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:55,320 Speaker 1: to say, hey, wait a minute, not so fast, What 1718 01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:58,040 Speaker 1: if I don't want to play here anymore? And that 1719 01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:00,360 Speaker 1: may have a ripple effect that we don't know the 1720 01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:05,280 Speaker 1: ramifications of yet. I totally agree, and I think that 1721 01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:07,599 Speaker 1: when you look at it, if you're Aaron Rodgers now 1722 01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:09,720 Speaker 1: and you say, if I'm not in the perfect situation, 1723 01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:12,880 Speaker 1: why am I staying there? Russell Wilson is in probably 1724 01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:15,000 Speaker 1: in the same boat. Deshaun was in the same boat 1725 01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:18,120 Speaker 1: before that, And I think if you look around the league, guys, 1726 01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:21,320 Speaker 1: look at what Josh Allen has in Buffalo, where the 1727 01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:26,160 Speaker 1: team built the perfect system around him and went all 1728 01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:27,880 Speaker 1: the way in on receivers and went out and got 1729 01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:30,559 Speaker 1: as Stefan digs and built that line and all that stuff. 1730 01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:33,160 Speaker 1: Look at Kansas City with Andy Reid and what he 1731 01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:36,040 Speaker 1: did with Patrick Mahomes. They put those guys in the 1732 01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:39,200 Speaker 1: absolute best position to win. And I think that if 1733 01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:41,240 Speaker 1: you're a Russell Wilson, you're looking at that, and you're 1734 01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:43,320 Speaker 1: looking around at the Seattle's offense and you're saying, what 1735 01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:46,519 Speaker 1: are these guys? Get me? What are they doing? As 1736 01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:48,720 Speaker 1: far as play calling, all of that stuff. And so 1737 01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:50,800 Speaker 1: I think you're seeing a little NBA in the sense 1738 01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:53,519 Speaker 1: that you know, it's not just guys who want to 1739 01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:55,799 Speaker 1: go from losing teams to waiting teams. In the NBA, 1740 01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:58,679 Speaker 1: it's guys who go from good teams to great teams 1741 01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:00,320 Speaker 1: because they just say, hey, we can get a little 1742 01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:04,360 Speaker 1: better situation in Brooklyn or Philadelphia or whatever it is, 1743 01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:07,400 Speaker 1: and that's that's where they want to go. So I 1744 01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:10,040 Speaker 1: think unless you're doing everything you can to support your 1745 01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:12,360 Speaker 1: quarterback right now, you're on notice a little bit that 1746 01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:17,439 Speaker 1: your franchise quarterback might want to leave. How quickly after 1747 01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:21,240 Speaker 1: that June first, you know deadline. I didn't want to 1748 01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:22,920 Speaker 1: call it a deadline, but we know that the cap 1749 01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,840 Speaker 1: relief is far more palatable after that for Green Bay. 1750 01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:30,720 Speaker 1: How far after that does something get consummated or do 1751 01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:34,120 Speaker 1: you see Green Bay digging their heels in and holding 1752 01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:36,000 Speaker 1: out for as long as they can in the hopes 1753 01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:41,080 Speaker 1: that the relationship can be repaired. Well, I mean, first 1754 01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:42,920 Speaker 1: of all, I think that there are smart people on 1755 01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:45,679 Speaker 1: both sides. Someone like James Jones, who knows Aaron Rodgers 1756 01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:48,519 Speaker 1: really well, says he believes this is fixable. John Kuhn, 1757 01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:51,080 Speaker 1: who actually does at him going to work for the 1758 01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:54,240 Speaker 1: Packers still, who was the fullback there. He says he 1759 01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,320 Speaker 1: thinks it could be fixable. But then those beat writers 1760 01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:58,320 Speaker 1: who've been around a long time who say no, that 1761 01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:01,120 Speaker 1: Roger's are going to dig his heels and he's never 1762 01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:03,120 Speaker 1: going to play for the Packers again. Adam Schefter said 1763 01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:05,679 Speaker 1: that he has no plans to return. So I think 1764 01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:07,200 Speaker 1: that you're going to have to see. I mean, part 1765 01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:09,439 Speaker 1: of the problem, guys was that on Draft night when 1766 01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:12,479 Speaker 1: this all leaks, they only got one phone call. And 1767 01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:14,720 Speaker 1: so I think with trades like this, it's a bit 1768 01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:17,080 Speaker 1: of a failure of an imagination in a sense that 1769 01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:19,960 Speaker 1: if you're Denver, what do you even offer for Aaron Rodgers? 1770 01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,960 Speaker 1: But there's no real precedent for this. He's the league's MVP. 1771 01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:25,400 Speaker 1: I think it's been something like forty five years since 1772 01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:28,840 Speaker 1: a league MVP didn't return to his team, And so 1773 01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,880 Speaker 1: I don't even know if you're Denver, if you hear 1774 01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:34,400 Speaker 1: on at three pm one Draft night, Aaron Rodgers might 1775 01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:36,800 Speaker 1: be available or it might want out. It takes a 1776 01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:38,840 Speaker 1: heck of a lot longer than four hours before the 1777 01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:41,400 Speaker 1: draft starts to understand what you'd even give up for him. 1778 01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:44,160 Speaker 1: I think that the bidding starts at three first round picks, 1779 01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:46,719 Speaker 1: but that you know, is there an actual true auction 1780 01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:50,240 Speaker 1: if the Packers decided to go that route, I don't know. 1781 01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:52,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's one of the most fascinating team building 1782 01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:55,680 Speaker 1: questions I can remember my time covering the league. Guys. Yeah, 1783 01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:58,840 Speaker 1: and as it rolls through, what's your gut feeling? How 1784 01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:04,160 Speaker 1: long does this play out? It plays out until training camp, 1785 01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:06,800 Speaker 1: So he gets fined I think fifty thousand dollars a 1786 01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:11,000 Speaker 1: day when he starts missing training camp, and then once 1787 01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:12,800 Speaker 1: the preseason game start, if he holds out for that, 1788 01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,479 Speaker 1: he gets started to get find game checks essentially and 1789 01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:17,920 Speaker 1: the equivalent of it. So it comes down to his 1790 01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,000 Speaker 1: willingness to just sort of sit. And you know, I 1791 01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:22,760 Speaker 1: saw on Twitter today that I think Aaron Rodgers in 1792 01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:24,599 Speaker 1: Hawaii right now, it's a pretty good place to wait 1793 01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:26,760 Speaker 1: it out. I'm a little bit jealous. He's definitely not 1794 01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:28,280 Speaker 1: going to spend a lot of time in Green Bay 1795 01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:29,599 Speaker 1: the summer. He's just going to hang out and has 1796 01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:32,400 Speaker 1: some fun. So I think you're gonna see July twenty eighth, 1797 01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,080 Speaker 1: July twenty nine. Whenever the actual deadline to report is, 1798 01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:37,120 Speaker 1: that's when it goes. And then it comes down to 1799 01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:39,160 Speaker 1: a staring contest. Is he I mean, this is what 1800 01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:41,520 Speaker 1: was said about Russell, is what was said. But previously 1801 01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:44,720 Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson, it comes down to his willingness to 1802 01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:48,439 Speaker 1: miss regular season NFL games. And if he does does 1803 01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:50,559 Speaker 1: want to do that, if he indicates he will do that, 1804 01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:52,400 Speaker 1: that's when I think he might see the Pack to 1805 01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:54,519 Speaker 1: throw up their hands. I wouldn't expect the Pack to 1806 01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:57,960 Speaker 1: do anything before them. Let's let's move on to the 1807 01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:00,599 Speaker 1: NFL schedule which came out lest we be as we know, 1808 01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:04,799 Speaker 1: some people are happy, some people are not so happy 1809 01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:07,639 Speaker 1: with how the schedule got framed up for certain teams. 1810 01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm pretty surprised to see that the Bills got three 1811 01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:12,560 Speaker 1: of their first four games at home and three of 1812 01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:15,719 Speaker 1: their last four games at home. That has never happened 1813 01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:17,759 Speaker 1: before for the Bills. I wonder if it's ever happened 1814 01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:20,120 Speaker 1: for any other NFL club. It seems to be a rarity. 1815 01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:24,160 Speaker 1: But that is a tremendous opportunity for Buffalo to get 1816 01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:26,600 Speaker 1: a cluster of wins on the front end and the 1817 01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:30,519 Speaker 1: back end of their schedule respectively. But my question you, Kevin, 1818 01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:34,120 Speaker 1: deals more with the seventeenth game the bye weeks now, 1819 01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:37,280 Speaker 1: which don't begin any earlier than Week six, and I 1820 01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:41,800 Speaker 1: believe they run all the way to week thirteen. There's 1821 01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:45,680 Speaker 1: gonna be some load management talk that I'm anticipating is 1822 01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:47,800 Speaker 1: going to start to creep into the conversation here a 1823 01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:50,360 Speaker 1: little bit more. I know they're taking a preseason game away, 1824 01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,240 Speaker 1: but man, if you've got a bye week in week six, 1825 01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:57,080 Speaker 1: that is a long haul to the end of the 1826 01:39:57,120 --> 01:40:00,240 Speaker 1: regular season, especially if you're a playoff team, knowing got 1827 01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,080 Speaker 1: a full playoffs late on the horizon as well. So 1828 01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:05,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard any chatter on that 1829 01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:08,520 Speaker 1: at all. You know, in the wake of the seventeenth 1830 01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:10,400 Speaker 1: game being added to the schedule. I was just curious 1831 01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:14,240 Speaker 1: if you heard anything league wide. No, I definitely have 1832 01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:17,160 Speaker 1: heard that. And you hear the report that the Dolphins 1833 01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:19,960 Speaker 1: are going to play the week after their London game 1834 01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:22,519 Speaker 1: because they didn't want an early buy. They didn't want 1835 01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:25,639 Speaker 1: in October by or whatever it was they wanted week thirteen. 1836 01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:27,519 Speaker 1: I think I think it even goes to week fourteen 1837 01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:29,960 Speaker 1: in some situation. So that's going to be the advantage. 1838 01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:32,920 Speaker 1: The load management thing is really important because I think 1839 01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:36,040 Speaker 1: that if you're a little bit dinged up now, I 1840 01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:39,000 Speaker 1: think that the teams are going to, you know, to 1841 01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:42,040 Speaker 1: take precautions where they wouldn't normally because it's just a 1842 01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:44,720 Speaker 1: one week longer and you guys know this, one week 1843 01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:48,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL is a long time, and by week sixteen, 1844 01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:51,720 Speaker 1: week seventeen, normally guys are either banged up or you know, 1845 01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:54,040 Speaker 1: the old cliche is that no one's ever one hundred 1846 01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:57,439 Speaker 1: percent in the NFL. I mean, by week sixteen, week seventeen, 1847 01:40:57,479 --> 01:41:00,320 Speaker 1: nobody's even eighty percent, right, So to add one game 1848 01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:02,719 Speaker 1: for the entire league is huge. So yes, the bye 1849 01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:04,559 Speaker 1: week is going to be massive. I mean the kind 1850 01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:06,639 Speaker 1: of the guide post for me, it was a couple 1851 01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:09,880 Speaker 1: of years ago when the Dolphins and the Bucks had 1852 01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:11,760 Speaker 1: to put their bye week in Week won because of 1853 01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:14,759 Speaker 1: the hurricane, so they had to play six sixteen straight weeks. 1854 01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:17,639 Speaker 1: I remember going into the locker room in Miami later 1855 01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:19,200 Speaker 1: that season, and I remember talking to some of those 1856 01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:22,240 Speaker 1: guys just kind of casually, and they were talking about 1857 01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:24,600 Speaker 1: just how brutal it was and how much they appreciated 1858 01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:28,799 Speaker 1: the bye week. Now that they had to play sixteen 1859 01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:31,040 Speaker 1: straight weeks, and so yes, it is a big, big deal. 1860 01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:32,840 Speaker 1: And I think you're going to start to see teams, 1861 01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:35,719 Speaker 1: you know, we hear every year about teams saying, hey, 1862 01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:38,240 Speaker 1: you know, asking cats in the league office and those 1863 01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:40,679 Speaker 1: guys for certain favors. And I think the bye week 1864 01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:43,120 Speaker 1: is going to become a huge, huge thing because the 1865 01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:45,400 Speaker 1: rest inequality for for lack of better germ, it's what 1866 01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:47,720 Speaker 1: my colleague Warren Sharp calls it is a big big deal. 1867 01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:50,680 Speaker 1: Where do you think that schedule settles? And I know, 1868 01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:56,439 Speaker 1: seventeen games seems temporary. I mean, it just doesn't seem 1869 01:41:56,479 --> 01:41:58,960 Speaker 1: like around the league is about you know, it's had 1870 01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:01,439 Speaker 1: twenty eight teams. It was thirty teams, and its thirty 1871 01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:04,400 Speaker 1: two teams of fourteen games, a twelve game schedule, a 1872 01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:07,800 Speaker 1: fourteen game schedule, sixteen game now you got seventeen. It 1873 01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:10,400 Speaker 1: just does not seem like that is a long term solution, 1874 01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:13,040 Speaker 1: however long it takes. Do you think they settled on 1875 01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:16,120 Speaker 1: eighteen games in two preseason games going forward at some 1876 01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:21,080 Speaker 1: point or maybe even in the next decade. I think 1877 01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:23,960 Speaker 1: at some point down the road, yes, because I think 1878 01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:26,559 Speaker 1: you saw the stat when it came out. Sixteen games. 1879 01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:29,240 Speaker 1: Schedule was around longer than any other schedule in the 1880 01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:32,200 Speaker 1: history of football, right Like, they had to go from 1881 01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:34,120 Speaker 1: fourteen to sixteen and then stay there for as long 1882 01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:35,640 Speaker 1: as they did. It was kind of unprecedented when you 1883 01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:38,840 Speaker 1: used look at the movement, but we saw how long 1884 01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:41,559 Speaker 1: it took that movement to happen. I think Roger Goodell 1885 01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:45,920 Speaker 1: over a decade ago, proposed the seventeenth game or the 1886 01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:48,400 Speaker 1: eighteenth game at that point, and then had to scale back, 1887 01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:50,680 Speaker 1: and the PA hated it. I remember every time I 1888 01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:52,519 Speaker 1: brought it up to the PA, they were, you know, 1889 01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:54,400 Speaker 1: they they said they were going to fight a tooth 1890 01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:56,280 Speaker 1: in nail. That was five six years ago. Then the 1891 01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:59,800 Speaker 1: new CBA comes in. Everything kind of makes good there. 1892 01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:02,360 Speaker 1: But I also think you have you know, it took 1893 01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:04,320 Speaker 1: Roger Minell a couple of years to get the extra 1894 01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:06,840 Speaker 1: playoff game in. That was another thing he wanted. I 1895 01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:08,720 Speaker 1: think the PA is going to fight on everything. They're 1896 01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:11,000 Speaker 1: going to make sure that everybody's getting paid. I think 1897 01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,280 Speaker 1: at some point with eighteen games, you have to dramatically 1898 01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:16,599 Speaker 1: scale up the rosters at some point and just make 1899 01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:18,880 Speaker 1: sure that every position has a rotation. Although it doesn't 1900 01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:22,320 Speaker 1: help some of the star players. So eventually, yes, just 1901 01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:25,040 Speaker 1: because that's how things go. It's like the college football playoffs. 1902 01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:27,960 Speaker 1: Eventually we know it's going to be more teams than four. 1903 01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:30,800 Speaker 1: That's just how sports works. I just think that this 1904 01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:33,280 Speaker 1: process of adding games in the climate and how we 1905 01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:35,120 Speaker 1: know what we know about player health and safety now 1906 01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:38,240 Speaker 1: it's going to take. It's going to be a long 1907 01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:41,759 Speaker 1: time before that. I know on one of your recent 1908 01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:44,240 Speaker 1: podcasts that you do with Nora Princeatti, who has been 1909 01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:47,519 Speaker 1: on the show with us, you guys got into a 1910 01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:50,519 Speaker 1: little bit of Coach of the Year candidate previews for 1911 01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:53,439 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. I know a lot of people felt, 1912 01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, McDermott was firmly in the conversation last year, 1913 01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:59,439 Speaker 1: taking his team to a thirteen in three season, ultimately 1914 01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:02,599 Speaker 1: loses to Kevin Stefanski, who did some great things in 1915 01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:06,880 Speaker 1: his first year in Cleveland. Who did you guys come 1916 01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:09,439 Speaker 1: down on as some of the primary candidates in your 1917 01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:13,479 Speaker 1: guys estimation. So Nora Princeida came out of left field 1918 01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:15,599 Speaker 1: with this, and this is how the discussion started. We 1919 01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:18,200 Speaker 1: were going through basically playing a game called schedule pegics. 1920 01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:21,280 Speaker 1: We're saying Okay, October fifth, this will happen. On November tenth, 1921 01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:25,160 Speaker 1: this will happen. And she said that the Atlanta Falcons 1922 01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:27,920 Speaker 1: will start hot. They've got the roster, they've got Kyle Pitts, 1923 01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:31,439 Speaker 1: all that stuff, and a little bit of success will 1924 01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:34,400 Speaker 1: get Arthur Smith the Coach of the Year award. Watch 1925 01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:37,679 Speaker 1: I had not thought about. And you start to think about, Okay, 1926 01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:40,519 Speaker 1: they've got Matt Ryan. It's kind of additioned by subtraction 1927 01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:42,840 Speaker 1: with with you know, some of the staff problems. They've 1928 01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:44,760 Speaker 1: had a couple in the last couple of years. So 1929 01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:47,439 Speaker 1: I started to think about that. But then I also 1930 01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:49,400 Speaker 1: think someone like Mike McCarthy. I think this is such 1931 01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:52,559 Speaker 1: a narrative award guys, where if you get a healthy 1932 01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:55,439 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott for seventeen games and you just get a 1933 01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:59,320 Speaker 1: little bit of defensive progression with ban Quinn now speaking 1934 01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:02,080 Speaker 1: with Falcons, I think there's something there. So I think 1935 01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:04,559 Speaker 1: that if they win eleven games, Mike McCarthy's from minus mix, 1936 01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:06,720 Speaker 1: even though I don't think McCarthy's all I good of 1937 01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:09,200 Speaker 1: a coach, So I just start to think it's going 1938 01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:12,320 Speaker 1: to be hard at some point. Someone like Sean McDermot 1939 01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:15,519 Speaker 1: becomes a victim of his own success and the fact 1940 01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:19,080 Speaker 1: that he's expected to win twelve or thirteen games. What 1941 01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:21,599 Speaker 1: I can't even do the math now and what's expected 1942 01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:24,679 Speaker 1: now with seventeen games. But yeah, twelve thirteen wins seems 1943 01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:27,439 Speaker 1: about right for Sean McDermott. He's cared for one of 1944 01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:30,439 Speaker 1: the best GM's in the league, Josh Allen, who you know, 1945 01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:33,400 Speaker 1: is now just such a high bar for him, whereas 1946 01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:36,320 Speaker 1: last off season there wasn't that high bar. So for 1947 01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:39,360 Speaker 1: a guy like that, it's going to take fifteen sixteen 1948 01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:43,240 Speaker 1: wins and to overcome some injuries because again it's narrative awards, 1949 01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:46,519 Speaker 1: So mcdermot's going to have to overcome some obstacles to 1950 01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:48,680 Speaker 1: win that award. He can do it. I think he's 1951 01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:51,200 Speaker 1: an amazing coach. I just think that award in particular 1952 01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:53,880 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski turning around Cleveland in the way he did, 1953 01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:56,599 Speaker 1: that's the kind of guy who wins that award. Because 1954 01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:58,720 Speaker 1: it's such a peculiar award. I guess you could say, 1955 01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:01,800 Speaker 1: how much do you do you put in the expectations 1956 01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:04,360 Speaker 1: that has attached not only to the teams but to 1957 01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:07,679 Speaker 1: the coaches, you know, by proxy, the Bills are favored 1958 01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:10,080 Speaker 1: in fifteen of the seventeen games they're gonna line up against. 1959 01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:13,240 Speaker 1: They're right there with the Bucks game behind the Chiefs's 1960 01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:15,400 Speaker 1: favorites in all the games that are on the docket 1961 01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:17,880 Speaker 1: right now. This is a team that you know, we're 1962 01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:21,599 Speaker 1: talking even that the most you know, everybody says they're 1963 01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:26,040 Speaker 1: gonna win, like thirteen game fourteen, seventeen game schedules. They 1964 01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:28,800 Speaker 1: went through a gauntlet of a very difficult schedule last year, 1965 01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:30,840 Speaker 1: one of the most difficult schedules in the league, and 1966 01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:32,920 Speaker 1: this year it's just the opposite of that, and they 1967 01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:36,240 Speaker 1: seem to have gotten even better in the offseason. How 1968 01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:39,439 Speaker 1: do you you know how much stock do you put 1969 01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:41,840 Speaker 1: in the expectations and how much they affect the early 1970 01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:46,160 Speaker 1: early parts of the season. Well, first of all, I 1971 01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:49,280 Speaker 1: think that the expectations part of it won't bother them 1972 01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:51,679 Speaker 1: because I've been around back when you're can actually visit 1973 01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:54,720 Speaker 1: training camp two three years ago and hopefully we can 1974 01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:57,559 Speaker 1: again this year. I spent and full of times around 1975 01:46:57,720 --> 01:47:00,559 Speaker 1: Brandon Bean, Sean McDermott, and I think you have tough 1976 01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:03,280 Speaker 1: times like that, culture becomes the most important thing, and 1977 01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:05,439 Speaker 1: they've got culture. I mean they've got. I know this 1978 01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:07,880 Speaker 1: sounds ridiculous to say out loud, but they've got a 1979 01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:10,400 Speaker 1: top five culture in the NFL, just as far as 1980 01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:12,360 Speaker 1: the vibes going, as far as the training camp go, 1981 01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:14,800 Speaker 1: and just everybody rolling in the right direction. So I'm 1982 01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:17,720 Speaker 1: not worried about any sort of you know, I think 1983 01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:20,600 Speaker 1: that the game in Week five against the Chiefs is 1984 01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:23,360 Speaker 1: massive from an expectation standpoint, But I think that they lose, 1985 01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:24,800 Speaker 1: that's not the end of the world because they can 1986 01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:26,840 Speaker 1: still they had still have the ability for everybody to 1987 01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:29,000 Speaker 1: sort of roll in the same direction in Week six. 1988 01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:30,880 Speaker 1: Even if they lose, I do think would be a 1989 01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:34,240 Speaker 1: big boost, but it's fine. I think that generally with 1990 01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:38,080 Speaker 1: their expectations, I think that everybody kind of forgets about 1991 01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:40,960 Speaker 1: them because they made their splashing and moves last off season. Obviously, 1992 01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:43,719 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's contract would the most important team building question 1993 01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:45,960 Speaker 1: for them, probably going to be round forty million dollars. 1994 01:47:46,479 --> 01:47:48,559 Speaker 1: They'll probably be some sticker shock when it happens. But 1995 01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:50,800 Speaker 1: they went out and got they got digs. Last year. 1996 01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:53,439 Speaker 1: They went out and they fortified all the visions that 1997 01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:55,559 Speaker 1: they needed to. Last year. They didn't take a big 1998 01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:57,599 Speaker 1: swing They're not like the Chiefs where they retooled their 1999 01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:01,120 Speaker 1: offensive line or anything like that. They're they're just doing 2000 01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:03,640 Speaker 1: one thing going from one year to the next and 2001 01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:06,439 Speaker 1: banking on the run progression. Obviously they add talent like 2002 01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:08,519 Speaker 1: Roussell and stuff like that, but that can fit in. 2003 01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:12,479 Speaker 1: I think the Bills are, in a weird way, despite 2004 01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:15,200 Speaker 1: the strides in a last year, kind of the forgotten team. 2005 01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:18,519 Speaker 1: I think there's still really firmly in the mixed plain 2006 01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:20,680 Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship game. It's just whether or not 2007 01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:22,040 Speaker 1: they can beat the Chiefs, which I think is the 2008 01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:24,880 Speaker 1: question for every AFC contender right now. Which team got 2009 01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:29,320 Speaker 1: better in the offseason the Bills of the Chiefs. Well, 2010 01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:32,040 Speaker 1: it's different because I think the Chiefs took such a 2011 01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:35,000 Speaker 1: step back in the last three weeks of the season 2012 01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:38,599 Speaker 1: with injuries and obviously they were out which without shorts 2013 01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:41,559 Speaker 1: all year. I think in some ways they were they 2014 01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:45,840 Speaker 1: were they retooled their offensive line to the point that 2015 01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:49,960 Speaker 1: I think that they probably got better. And so if 2016 01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:52,439 Speaker 1: you're to ask me which team was going to make 2017 01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:55,240 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, I would guess the Chiefs. I think 2018 01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:58,439 Speaker 1: they're kind of holding, sir from a roster perspective. They 2019 01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:01,960 Speaker 1: have the cost certainty with the quarterback, which is so 2020 01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:04,519 Speaker 1: so important. And once Josh Allen is in the fold 2021 01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:07,160 Speaker 1: for the next whatever it is, five six years in Bufflow, 2022 01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:10,000 Speaker 1: they'll have that. They'll probably be in the next twelve months. 2023 01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:12,640 Speaker 1: But I think they know and they's some comfort and 2024 01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:16,120 Speaker 1: operating around that cap right now. They're all in every year. 2025 01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:18,680 Speaker 1: They're not afraid to take big swings. We all try 2026 01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:20,519 Speaker 1: to get against Schuster and stuff like that. There could 2027 01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:23,559 Speaker 1: be some more moves on the horizon. Nothing intimidates them. 2028 01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:25,559 Speaker 1: Brett Beach, Andy Reid, those guys as far as the 2029 01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:28,799 Speaker 1: cap goes, as far as trades go, they're capable of anything. 2030 01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:31,000 Speaker 1: So I think Brandon Bean is a top, top general 2031 01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:34,080 Speaker 1: manager in this league. I love him. But I do 2032 01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:36,120 Speaker 1: think that the Chiefs are still slightly better. I think 2033 01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:39,120 Speaker 1: if you're just looking at this offseason, the Chiefs answered 2034 01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:42,080 Speaker 1: a big, big question in a way I don't think 2035 01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:44,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people thought they would. So I'm going 2036 01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:46,200 Speaker 1: to give the slight edge to the Chiefs as far 2037 01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:48,519 Speaker 1: as the last couple of months. And then Kevin I 2038 01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:51,400 Speaker 1: wanted to bounce off of you what we're asking of 2039 01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:55,360 Speaker 1: our listeners today we know that Josh had a gigantic 2040 01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:59,280 Speaker 1: third season in the league last year. I'm not expecting 2041 01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:01,000 Speaker 1: any one of these guys to do that for the 2042 01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:03,519 Speaker 1: Bills this year. But we're asking who's the most likely 2043 01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:06,759 Speaker 1: to have a breakout year in year three? Among the choices, 2044 01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:12,040 Speaker 1: Devin Singletary, Ed Oliver Dawson Knox probably are the three 2045 01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:14,960 Speaker 1: most notable third year players for the Bills. Who do 2046 01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:18,200 Speaker 1: you think has the best opportunity to break out? Maybe 2047 01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:20,800 Speaker 1: of those three coming up here in twenty twenty one 2048 01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:25,360 Speaker 1: for this team. Yeah, great questions. So I've always been 2049 01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:28,600 Speaker 1: high on Devin Singletary. I've spent some time with him. 2050 01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:31,680 Speaker 1: We're actually done with the Frank Gore training sessions that 2051 01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:34,200 Speaker 1: he had when he was a young pup, and he did, 2052 01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:36,040 Speaker 1: and Gore would go at it, and Gore would would 2053 01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:38,559 Speaker 1: try to make himself feel younger by beating out Devin Singletary, 2054 01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:41,840 Speaker 1: and sometimes he would sometimes he would. But I'm still 2055 01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:45,360 Speaker 1: high on ed Oliver. I think athleticism wins in this league, 2056 01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:49,040 Speaker 1: and big guys who can move always been on them, 2057 01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:52,360 Speaker 1: and I think and Oliver can have that that breakout 2058 01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:54,760 Speaker 1: season to get him to the top of the heap. 2059 01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:58,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard for me to sort of at 2060 01:50:58,280 --> 01:51:01,639 Speaker 1: a position on defensive wine GE's so focused on sack 2061 01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:04,840 Speaker 1: numbers and stuff like that. I think actual evaluations get 2062 01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:07,599 Speaker 1: kind of lost in the next sometimes. But I just 2063 01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:10,519 Speaker 1: I loved him coming into the league. I love the 2064 01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:13,360 Speaker 1: ability for a flow to develop guys and put them 2065 01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:16,920 Speaker 1: in stitition succeed. So I'm betting on it Alliver taking 2066 01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:19,439 Speaker 1: next step this year. And we just got through. As 2067 01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:21,559 Speaker 1: we were talking, you said that the kind of calendar 2068 01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:24,880 Speaker 1: of the NFL got thrown into wacky stage because of 2069 01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:27,080 Speaker 1: the Aaron Rodgers news on Draft day. But the draft 2070 01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:29,439 Speaker 1: did take place. We got a bunch of quarterbacks taken 2071 01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:32,320 Speaker 1: at the top of the first round. Which of those guys, 2072 01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:35,559 Speaker 1: of these high first rounders, do you expect to start 2073 01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:37,960 Speaker 1: and have success right away? You got, you know, Trevor Lawrence, 2074 01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:41,120 Speaker 1: justin Fields, you got Zach Wilson and others. You know, 2075 01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:43,360 Speaker 1: give us a little quick rundown of your thoughts about 2076 01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:46,920 Speaker 1: each guy in the situation they're getting dropped into. Yeah, 2077 01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:49,200 Speaker 1: I think if Trey Lance starts, he's the guy's got 2078 01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:52,400 Speaker 1: immediate success because I think being dropped in San Francisco, 2079 01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:54,280 Speaker 1: You know, I saw a phrase other day I liked 2080 01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:57,680 Speaker 1: a lot, But it's not a scheme fit in San Francisco, 2081 01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:01,080 Speaker 1: it's a scheme expansion. What I mean by that is 2082 01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:04,400 Speaker 1: that Kyle Shanahan can do so many different things, and 2083 01:52:04,479 --> 01:52:06,680 Speaker 1: now Trey Lance just gives them the ability to do 2084 01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:08,880 Speaker 1: even more. And that's what I love about that. And 2085 01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:11,839 Speaker 1: I'll obviously you add in the offici talent Deebo, Samuel, 2086 01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:15,360 Speaker 1: the Elpsive Lime, George Kittle, the guys in the backfield, 2087 01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:17,760 Speaker 1: all that speed in the backfield. There's just something there 2088 01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:19,479 Speaker 1: where that could be really really special if he takes 2089 01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:22,280 Speaker 1: over for grappl whether that's September, October, whenever it is. 2090 01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:25,400 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson and Trevor Lawrence are both in situations where 2091 01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:28,800 Speaker 1: they're at least a year away. I actually am a 2092 01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:31,280 Speaker 1: little higher in urban miner than most people probably, but 2093 01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:32,920 Speaker 1: I do think that there's just not a lot of 2094 01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:37,240 Speaker 1: talent there, even their off season and adding some better infreations, 2095 01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:41,400 Speaker 1: and so I would say that Trey Lance is probably 2096 01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:44,960 Speaker 1: my number one there. I think Justin Fields has a chance. 2097 01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:49,200 Speaker 1: As far as Orkie Year goes, I think Matteggie because 2098 01:52:49,400 --> 01:52:52,160 Speaker 1: of how bad tradis fue was and because of just 2099 01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:55,719 Speaker 1: what twenty thirty years of bad quarterback play in Chicago, 2100 01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:58,080 Speaker 1: I think who Pencilhan in for doom and Globe? And 2101 01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:01,120 Speaker 1: I really do think that Justin Field is the type 2102 01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:03,639 Speaker 1: of player who has a toughness about him, who's gonna 2103 01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:05,240 Speaker 1: be able to persevere in a city where it's hard 2104 01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:08,000 Speaker 1: to play quarterback, where he's going to be able to 2105 01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:10,720 Speaker 1: have some success and kind of reverse those trends. It 2106 01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:13,320 Speaker 1: takes a certain type of player. Guys, you know this. 2107 01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:16,200 Speaker 1: In Buffalo, Josh Allen had to have a certain type 2108 01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:19,200 Speaker 1: of mentality to be the guy in Buffalo who's going 2109 01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:21,719 Speaker 1: to be the franchise quarterback. They had so many false 2110 01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:25,800 Speaker 1: starts that every if one thing went wrong, the entire 2111 01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:27,920 Speaker 1: city or the media remember and say Okay, here we 2112 01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:30,759 Speaker 1: go again. That is the mood in Chicago right now, 2113 01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:33,400 Speaker 1: and it takes a certain type of players to reverse that. 2114 01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:35,960 Speaker 1: And I think from what I hear, Justin Fields is 2115 01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:38,720 Speaker 1: that type of guy. I want to have some fun 2116 01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:41,639 Speaker 1: with you here now, Kevin. We were not shy about 2117 01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:44,800 Speaker 1: stealing stuff. We totally stole this from BBC Sports dot 2118 01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:47,120 Speaker 1: Com and Chris Sims, who was asked this by a 2119 01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:53,240 Speaker 1: listener on his podcast, but head coach Quarterback tag team 2120 01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:58,120 Speaker 1: wrestling combination in a Royal rumble, give us your top 2121 01:53:58,160 --> 01:54:00,800 Speaker 1: two or three head coach quarterback bombos that you think 2122 01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:05,160 Speaker 1: could take a match like that in the ring. Wow. Okay, 2123 01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:09,040 Speaker 1: So I would put Sean McDermott and Josh Allen up 2124 01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:11,800 Speaker 1: really high in this. I've actually talked to coach McDermott 2125 01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:15,080 Speaker 1: about his nime training. He really likes doing it. He 2126 01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:17,400 Speaker 1: had a guy in Carolina come once a week. I 2127 01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:19,320 Speaker 1: don't know if he still does that every week in Buffalo, 2128 01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:22,120 Speaker 1: but he certainly did it for a long time in Carolina. 2129 01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:23,960 Speaker 1: He's very very good at it. And Josh Allen is 2130 01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:27,800 Speaker 1: a big guy. I'd put him near the top. I'm 2131 01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:30,280 Speaker 1: trying to think who else you know. I think Pete 2132 01:54:30,280 --> 01:54:32,440 Speaker 1: Carroll probably thinks he's number one up there because I 2133 01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:35,080 Speaker 1: saw him the other day trying to recover a fumbling practice. 2134 01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:39,480 Speaker 1: He's definitely not um. I would say Mike Rabel and 2135 01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:42,960 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill only because Mike Rabel is just such a big, 2136 01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:45,120 Speaker 1: physical guy. He'd have to put him in the mix. 2137 01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:49,400 Speaker 1: And then Ron Rivera and whoever's playing in Washington at 2138 01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:52,720 Speaker 1: quarterback whoever it is. I would I want Ron Rivera 2139 01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:55,360 Speaker 1: in that in that octagon because he's a tough dude 2140 01:54:55,360 --> 01:55:00,360 Speaker 1: that they do. Yeah, Tom lynnon Big Ben is another option. 2141 01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:03,680 Speaker 1: And then the other combo we came up with was 2142 01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:07,040 Speaker 1: horrible and Lamar provided that Lamar has a has a 2143 01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:09,480 Speaker 1: patented move to go to because he could be slippery 2144 01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:12,400 Speaker 1: in there. We're thinking, so those are the other ones 2145 01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:15,240 Speaker 1: we came up with. I would also put Brian Flores 2146 01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:18,760 Speaker 1: and t and there too. You know Brian Floors played 2147 01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:22,440 Speaker 1: college linebacker and to an athlete, Yeah, exactly, that's I 2148 01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:24,520 Speaker 1: kind of put them up there as well. Tannehill and 2149 01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:26,920 Speaker 1: I think Tannehill and Vrabel might be the one seed. 2150 01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:28,880 Speaker 1: I was worried about two of being too light and 2151 01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:31,240 Speaker 1: too easily tossed out of the ring. That was my 2152 01:55:31,320 --> 01:55:34,080 Speaker 1: concern for him. I don't know, but yeah, Steve had 2153 01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:36,600 Speaker 1: Ta and uh, Brian Flores too. I like the coach 2154 01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:39,120 Speaker 1: as a competitor. I'm not so sure about two, where 2155 01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:41,800 Speaker 1: he's a little light in the pants him getting thrown 2156 01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:44,160 Speaker 1: out quickly. Kevin, thanks man, it's great talking to you. 2157 01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:48,400 Speaker 1: Appreciate your work anytime, guys appreciate it, all right, Kevin 2158 01:55:48,440 --> 01:55:51,560 Speaker 1: Clark from The Ringer joining us here on One Bill's Live, 2159 01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:54,760 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, we had to bounce that off. And 2160 01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:59,240 Speaker 1: why not, right, I mean it's an interesting question, yeah, 2161 01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:02,160 Speaker 1: and not one of the you're often posed with forad 2162 01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:05,680 Speaker 1: coach and quarterback combinations. Given the rarity the wheel, the 2163 01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:08,400 Speaker 1: MMA training could take coach to another level, I have 2164 01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:11,280 Speaker 1: to say, I mean, that's no joke. That submission holds 2165 01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:14,440 Speaker 1: her no joke. And jiu jitsu and all of that. 2166 01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:17,640 Speaker 1: Not many people know jiu jitsu, krafmagas stuff. Oh yeah 2167 01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:21,240 Speaker 1: the crowd, Yeah, that's right. Did I say that? Right? Yeah, kravmaga. 2168 01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:25,160 Speaker 1: That's that's what the Israeli Army does, right They okay, 2169 01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:27,480 Speaker 1: they do that stuff. That's they're like, that's like a 2170 01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:31,400 Speaker 1: major discipline in a requirement for the Israeli Army. Oh, 2171 01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:34,480 Speaker 1: it's one thing. I don't know what the hell it's about, 2172 01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:37,800 Speaker 1: but it's a thing I certainly don't practice it. My 2173 01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:41,360 Speaker 1: days of judo ended at age eight, So when I 2174 01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:44,120 Speaker 1: got tossed around in a tournament like nobody's gives my 2175 01:56:44,160 --> 01:56:47,360 Speaker 1: martial arts training at this stage of my life. Yeah, 2176 01:56:47,400 --> 01:56:50,000 Speaker 1: my mom signed me up for judo as like a 2177 01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:52,960 Speaker 1: seven or an eight year old, which is the defensive 2178 01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:55,920 Speaker 1: martial arts discipline, like how to defend yourself and all that. 2179 01:56:56,160 --> 01:56:57,920 Speaker 1: Because I was a runt as a kid. I was 2180 01:56:57,960 --> 01:56:59,480 Speaker 1: like one of the shortest kids in class. She was 2181 01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:01,120 Speaker 1: worried a gonna get the tar kicked out, I mean 2182 01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:03,920 Speaker 1: into schoollyard. So she's like, no, let's sign him up 2183 01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:06,240 Speaker 1: for judo. We'll get him some moves so he can 2184 01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:08,920 Speaker 1: do a few things. So, you know, I'm learning some 2185 01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:11,000 Speaker 1: stuff here and there. I've been you know, I've been 2186 01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:17,600 Speaker 1: doing this for like a month, right, And the coach no, no, no, no. 2187 01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:21,720 Speaker 1: So the coach um of the class says, Okay, we're 2188 01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:23,760 Speaker 1: gonna enter a tournament. You know, we're gonna do a 2189 01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:26,160 Speaker 1: tournament whatever, and he goes, nobody worry. You're gonna go 2190 01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:30,280 Speaker 1: peep against people of you know, your same ability level 2191 01:57:30,320 --> 01:57:32,240 Speaker 1: and rank, you know, in terms of your belt color. 2192 01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:35,960 Speaker 1: So I am a white belt, like I am brand 2193 01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:42,000 Speaker 1: spanking new. So the first tournament, there's no other white 2194 01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:45,520 Speaker 1: belts in the entire thing in my age group, you know. 2195 01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:47,920 Speaker 1: So what I have to do. I gotta go against 2196 01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:50,360 Speaker 1: yellow and orange belts. Well, I mean I got I 2197 01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:52,560 Speaker 1: got my rear end handed to me like I'm on 2198 01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:55,040 Speaker 1: the mat more than anything. I might as well have 2199 01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:57,600 Speaker 1: been the mat. I got tossed around so much. I 2200 01:57:57,600 --> 01:57:58,920 Speaker 1: mean I was in the air more than I was 2201 01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:03,160 Speaker 1: on my feet. It was embarrassing. Swifter. Yeah, needless to say. 2202 01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:07,600 Speaker 1: After about another month of that, I was out, like, Mom, 2203 01:58:07,400 --> 01:58:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna be playing the traditional stuff. Okay, I'm 2204 01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:14,240 Speaker 1: gonna be playing my pa l basketball league, I'm gonna 2205 01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:17,360 Speaker 1: be playing my travel soccer, and you know, we'll be 2206 01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:19,760 Speaker 1: doing some other stuff baseball, lacrosse, I don't know, but 2207 01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:23,040 Speaker 1: we're not doing that because you know, she got she 2208 01:58:23,200 --> 01:58:25,240 Speaker 1: put me in those lessons to make me feel more 2209 01:58:25,280 --> 01:58:28,200 Speaker 1: confident about defending myself. And after that, I was just like, 2210 01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:30,760 Speaker 1: I don't have a fighting chance. I gotta grow. I 2211 01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:35,080 Speaker 1: didn't have any I didn't have any experience with martial arts, 2212 01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:37,360 Speaker 1: but I'm with you though. The one thing I had 2213 01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:39,920 Speaker 1: was when I was playing community college football at Dodge 2214 01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:44,480 Speaker 1: City Community College when I was eighteen nineteen. There was 2215 01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:47,680 Speaker 1: a guy there who taught martial arts and kind of 2216 01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:51,760 Speaker 1: and some some and he was a veteran of you know, 2217 01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:55,480 Speaker 1: war of the Korean Army, and he was but he 2218 01:58:55,560 --> 01:59:04,400 Speaker 1: was like five feet five and nobody crossed him. I 2219 01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:05,960 Speaker 1: mean he's like as bigger round as he was, as 2220 01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:09,960 Speaker 1: bigger round as a pencil, and nobody crossed him. It's 2221 01:59:09,960 --> 01:59:12,040 Speaker 1: all bad technique. Yeah. So you know some of the 2222 01:59:12,040 --> 01:59:16,640 Speaker 1: big football guys, ah, you know they it was comical. Yeah, 2223 01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:20,000 Speaker 1: he would and he did not even bat an eye 2224 01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:23,000 Speaker 1: at him. He was like, let's go give it a shot. 2225 01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:25,680 Speaker 1: That's why I keep telling you you gotta watch that 2226 01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:28,320 Speaker 1: ESPN thirty for thirty on Bruce Lee Be the Water. 2227 01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:30,680 Speaker 1: You gotta watch that when you get a chance to 2228 01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:34,839 Speaker 1: be the waters. I enjoyed his movies. They were great. Yeah, 2229 01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:37,080 Speaker 1: so you gotta check that out. You I know you 2230 01:59:37,080 --> 01:59:40,240 Speaker 1: would enjoy that. So yeah, the highly recommended the thirty 2231 01:59:40,280 --> 01:59:42,440 Speaker 1: for thirty that ESPN did on him. It was really good. 2232 01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:44,720 Speaker 1: All right, break time for us when we come back 2233 01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:46,680 Speaker 1: a little bit. More on the final thoughts on your 2234 01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:48,640 Speaker 1: tweet sheet. Who's gonna break out in year three for 2235 01:59:48,680 --> 01:59:52,120 Speaker 1: the Bills? You heard Kevin Clark's pick. He's he's all 2236 01:59:52,160 --> 01:59:54,840 Speaker 1: about Ed Oliver. He thinks he's gonna really turn it 2237 01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:57,240 Speaker 1: on this season. We want to know what you think 2238 01:59:57,520 --> 01:59:59,520 Speaker 1: and maybe a little time for some NFL true false 2239 01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:01,560 Speaker 1: When we were You're on One Bill's Live presented by 2240 02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:16,320 Speaker 1: Collid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to 2241 02:00:16,360 --> 02:00:19,560 Speaker 1: One Bills Live Chris Brown's Game, tasking with you and 2242 02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:21,840 Speaker 1: getting your final thoughts on the tweet sheet today about 2243 02:00:21,880 --> 02:00:25,040 Speaker 1: who's prime for a breakout in year three with the Bills. 2244 02:00:25,680 --> 02:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Your main choices were Singletary, Oliver, and Knox, but you 2245 02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:33,440 Speaker 1: can pick another one if you wish. Huggy Bear says 2246 02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:36,960 Speaker 1: Singletary is going to have a one thousand yards season 2247 02:00:37,040 --> 02:00:41,120 Speaker 1: hashtag hot take. He still has to be hurt about 2248 02:00:41,160 --> 02:00:45,240 Speaker 1: the play in the AFC Championship game. Plus he's trying 2249 02:00:45,280 --> 02:00:47,880 Speaker 1: to claim that job back. Plus the old line will 2250 02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:50,400 Speaker 1: be better than last year. That will motivate you a 2251 02:00:50,480 --> 02:00:54,400 Speaker 1: lot of pluses for motor as Huggie Bear season. Yeah, 2252 02:00:54,440 --> 02:00:55,880 Speaker 1: offensive line is gonna play it, I think at a 2253 02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:59,680 Speaker 1: higher level this year. Continuityal help getting the five guys 2254 02:00:59,680 --> 02:01:01,360 Speaker 1: they want it on the field last year for the 2255 02:01:01,360 --> 02:01:04,920 Speaker 1: first time since the three snaps they got last year. 2256 02:01:05,600 --> 02:01:08,800 Speaker 1: Um even for that alone, even if they hadn't drafted 2257 02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:12,160 Speaker 1: three offensive lineman for competition in depth, they would be 2258 02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:14,520 Speaker 1: should have been in another in a better place. Of course, 2259 02:01:14,640 --> 02:01:17,360 Speaker 1: Ed Oliver's got a not at Oliver. Cody Ford has 2260 02:01:17,400 --> 02:01:20,160 Speaker 1: to bounce back from his injury and played back to 2261 02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:22,760 Speaker 1: his level, if not better, and here in this his 2262 02:01:22,880 --> 02:01:27,960 Speaker 1: third year exactly so. And Forrest lamp is another guy 2263 02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:31,440 Speaker 1: they brought in who I think is gonna compete. I mean, 2264 02:01:31,480 --> 02:01:33,520 Speaker 1: he's not going anywhere. He's he's got to think he's 2265 02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:35,040 Speaker 1: got a chance to make this team. And I'll tell 2266 02:01:35,040 --> 02:01:37,360 Speaker 1: you this, we had this conversation earlier. The Bills have 2267 02:01:37,440 --> 02:01:41,640 Speaker 1: got so with the addition of Spencer Brown, Tommy Doyle 2268 02:01:42,160 --> 02:01:47,080 Speaker 1: and uh the center who Jack Anderson, Yes, Jack Anderson. 2269 02:01:48,080 --> 02:01:50,680 Speaker 1: With the addition of those three draft picks and the 2270 02:01:50,920 --> 02:01:55,600 Speaker 1: their pedigree, you got guys like Forest lamp Ike Butker 2271 02:01:56,560 --> 02:01:59,240 Speaker 1: and the rest of the depth behind the starting five 2272 02:01:59,320 --> 02:02:03,160 Speaker 1: offensive line, including the five offensive linemen, and these draft picks. 2273 02:02:03,200 --> 02:02:06,840 Speaker 1: You you're sitting at a place of strength right now 2274 02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:11,600 Speaker 1: at your offensive line. And as the season gets closer 2275 02:02:11,640 --> 02:02:13,000 Speaker 1: and you're not going to be able to keep all 2276 02:02:13,040 --> 02:02:16,840 Speaker 1: of those guys, all of a sudden, you start thinking like, okay, 2277 02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:21,160 Speaker 1: do you get at a late training camp trade where 2278 02:02:21,200 --> 02:02:24,560 Speaker 1: you get a corner, a number two corner and you 2279 02:02:24,600 --> 02:02:27,320 Speaker 1: can send an offensive lineman and you get back a 2280 02:02:28,840 --> 02:02:31,320 Speaker 1: fifth round draft pick in a corner, or vice versa. 2281 02:02:31,320 --> 02:02:33,400 Speaker 1: You send an offensive lineman and a fifth rounder to 2282 02:02:33,880 --> 02:02:37,600 Speaker 1: get a high quality corner. You know that that's on 2283 02:02:37,640 --> 02:02:39,640 Speaker 1: the table because there's you look at I look at 2284 02:02:39,640 --> 02:02:42,120 Speaker 1: the offensive line roster with those three guys we just mentioned, 2285 02:02:42,160 --> 02:02:44,600 Speaker 1: along with Force Lamp who started sixteen games last year 2286 02:02:44,840 --> 02:02:50,040 Speaker 1: for the offensive Rookie of the Year. That's you've got 2287 02:02:50,080 --> 02:02:54,160 Speaker 1: some competition there, and you've lit a fire underneath the 2288 02:02:54,200 --> 02:02:56,640 Speaker 1: five guys that are actually coming back, and if you 2289 02:02:56,760 --> 02:02:59,760 Speaker 1: can trade I'm just saying, I'm not saying they should 2290 02:02:59,800 --> 02:03:03,560 Speaker 1: do this or what. But Darryl Williams, Feliciano, Cody Ford, 2291 02:03:04,480 --> 02:03:08,520 Speaker 1: any Mitch Morse, any of those guys, because they're they're locked. Well, 2292 02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:11,960 Speaker 1: Cody Ford not so much, but the other three guys, Morse, 2293 02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:16,200 Speaker 1: Feliciano when they got three year contracts, So there's cost 2294 02:03:16,360 --> 02:03:19,600 Speaker 1: certainty that for a team that's getting them right, there is, 2295 02:03:19,840 --> 02:03:21,680 Speaker 1: and there is an easy way to get out from 2296 02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:24,880 Speaker 1: under Feliciano's contract after one year, and I believe Darryl 2297 02:03:24,920 --> 02:03:28,320 Speaker 1: Williams contract as well, So there's some flexibility built in 2298 02:03:28,720 --> 02:03:30,520 Speaker 1: even for the bills if they don't move them. So 2299 02:03:31,160 --> 02:03:34,760 Speaker 1: be interesting to see where the line shakes out when 2300 02:03:34,840 --> 02:03:37,680 Speaker 1: we get to week one, because who knows. I mean, 2301 02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:41,160 Speaker 1: there could be some surprising developments there, because I think 2302 02:03:41,200 --> 02:03:44,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people are automatically anticipating the starting five 2303 02:03:44,720 --> 02:03:46,520 Speaker 1: is going to look largely the same to what it 2304 02:03:46,600 --> 02:03:48,000 Speaker 1: was last year. And I don't know that we can 2305 02:03:48,080 --> 02:03:51,360 Speaker 1: lock stock and barrel that. I don't think we can't. Well, 2306 02:03:51,400 --> 02:03:54,480 Speaker 1: we saw it what happened with Quentin Spain last year. 2307 02:03:54,560 --> 02:03:55,920 Speaker 1: He didn't even make it through that. He barely made 2308 02:03:55,920 --> 02:03:58,440 Speaker 1: it through the first three year contract. He had a 2309 02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:01,200 Speaker 1: three year contract and they just out and outcut him, 2310 02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:05,240 Speaker 1: um because he wasn't getting it done. And you know, 2311 02:04:05,320 --> 02:04:08,600 Speaker 1: guys are motivated by different things, and when that motivation 2312 02:04:08,760 --> 02:04:13,560 Speaker 1: ceases to exist or Wayne's little bit goes away, Wayne's noticeably, 2313 02:04:13,840 --> 02:04:17,440 Speaker 1: these guys are on it. It shows up quick in 2314 02:04:17,480 --> 02:04:20,480 Speaker 1: a in a competitive handled even quicker, yes, in a 2315 02:04:20,520 --> 02:04:24,400 Speaker 1: competitive atmosphere. The lack of motivation to be as good 2316 02:04:24,440 --> 02:04:29,200 Speaker 1: as you can be shows up big time, and they act. 2317 02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:31,520 Speaker 1: They don't just let it sit for a year and 2318 02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:34,480 Speaker 1: hope the guy you know recovers it or what they don't. 2319 02:04:34,520 --> 02:04:38,000 Speaker 1: They move on, and they do it quickly, so that 2320 02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:44,600 Speaker 1: atmosphere is exists everywhere and guys hear it. Guys hear 2321 02:04:44,640 --> 02:04:47,920 Speaker 1: that message, and we'll we'll see. So even though the offense, 2322 02:04:47,920 --> 02:04:50,360 Speaker 1: we're all excited when they resigned, all these core guys, 2323 02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:56,160 Speaker 1: Matt Milano, you know, Feliciano, Darryl Williams, uh Levi Wallace. 2324 02:04:57,280 --> 02:05:00,640 Speaker 1: Nothing's given to these guys except the next opportunity. Yeah, 2325 02:05:00,760 --> 02:05:03,280 Speaker 1: go and do it again, yea from Rusty. I hope 2326 02:05:03,320 --> 02:05:06,240 Speaker 1: and pray it's Oliver. Ed has starback next to him. 2327 02:05:06,280 --> 02:05:09,160 Speaker 1: Hopefully he's able to make a leap. However, I think 2328 02:05:09,280 --> 02:05:11,840 Speaker 1: Knox will make the biggest jump. He's now in year 2329 02:05:11,880 --> 02:05:14,360 Speaker 1: three as an NFL tight end after improved year two. 2330 02:05:14,840 --> 02:05:17,200 Speaker 1: He's still the fourth or fifth option, which should afford 2331 02:05:17,240 --> 02:05:20,240 Speaker 1: him space to get open, and he's the guy at 2332 02:05:20,280 --> 02:05:23,480 Speaker 1: tight end now. I think in terms of snap count 2333 02:05:23,520 --> 02:05:28,760 Speaker 1: and opportunity, Knox will probably get probably get more than 2334 02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:31,560 Speaker 1: Singletary on the field this year. In light of what 2335 02:05:31,600 --> 02:05:33,720 Speaker 1: the tight end position looks like in comparison to the 2336 02:05:33,800 --> 02:05:37,120 Speaker 1: running back position, Ed Oliver may not even have as 2337 02:05:37,160 --> 02:05:39,600 Speaker 1: many snaps as Knox. So you can make the argument 2338 02:05:39,600 --> 02:05:42,200 Speaker 1: I think that Knox will have the most opportunities on 2339 02:05:42,240 --> 02:05:44,880 Speaker 1: the field to have a breakout year. So I don't 2340 02:05:44,920 --> 02:05:46,480 Speaker 1: think that's a bad pick at all. Yeah, that's a 2341 02:05:47,160 --> 02:05:48,800 Speaker 1: good call. I didn't think about that when I was 2342 02:05:48,840 --> 02:05:50,520 Speaker 1: talking about you know why, I thought he was going 2343 02:05:50,560 --> 02:05:52,560 Speaker 1: to have the breakout year. But his snap count compared 2344 02:05:52,560 --> 02:05:54,120 Speaker 1: to the other guys is probably going to be the 2345 02:05:54,760 --> 02:05:57,440 Speaker 1: highest number. Yeah, between the three guys we've got on 2346 02:05:57,520 --> 02:06:00,880 Speaker 1: this list. Now, Cody Ford could be another one who 2347 02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:02,800 Speaker 1: comes back from an injury and he could have you know, 2348 02:06:03,680 --> 02:06:06,280 Speaker 1: starting job. Yeah, pops out and has an all Pro year. 2349 02:06:07,840 --> 02:06:11,680 Speaker 1: You know that's that says a lot. But he's gonna 2350 02:06:11,680 --> 02:06:13,680 Speaker 1: have a well if he starts on the offensive line. 2351 02:06:13,680 --> 02:06:16,720 Speaker 1: Obviously he's gonna play a thousand snaps this year. Knocks, 2352 02:06:16,800 --> 02:06:19,680 Speaker 1: on the other hand, won't, but he'll have more than 2353 02:06:19,760 --> 02:06:25,160 Speaker 1: Devin Singletary and Dead Oliver. That's a good call. Nick says, 2354 02:06:25,280 --> 02:06:27,320 Speaker 1: I think Ed Oliver should have a breakout year. But 2355 02:06:27,360 --> 02:06:30,360 Speaker 1: in my opinion, Singletary and Moss need to break out 2356 02:06:30,400 --> 02:06:32,800 Speaker 1: and kill it. This team needs a running game to 2357 02:06:32,800 --> 02:06:34,280 Speaker 1: move to the next level. If we can run it 2358 02:06:34,280 --> 02:06:37,120 Speaker 1: down teams throats and apply pressure, skies the limit. Both 2359 02:06:37,120 --> 02:06:42,080 Speaker 1: are things we did not do in twenty twenty. Yeah, 2360 02:06:42,120 --> 02:06:47,520 Speaker 1: that's not wrong, that's right. You know, I much hasn't 2361 02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:50,680 Speaker 1: There hasn't been much said about Zach Moss, you know, 2362 02:06:50,680 --> 02:06:54,360 Speaker 1: and coming back from the injury he sustained and what 2363 02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:58,800 Speaker 1: was it the Colts playoff game last year, so you know, 2364 02:06:58,840 --> 02:07:02,520 Speaker 1: hopefully all he's all systems go going forward. Two. We've 2365 02:07:02,520 --> 02:07:05,680 Speaker 1: heard encouraging reports on Cody Ford and has come back 2366 02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:09,640 Speaker 1: from the knee injury. Um, Zach Moss is gonna be 2367 02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:11,240 Speaker 1: somebody we're gonna have to keep an eye on two 2368 02:07:11,680 --> 02:07:13,640 Speaker 1: as he gets back to the field. One thing about 2369 02:07:13,760 --> 02:07:16,080 Speaker 1: Nick's tweet though about you know, if we can run 2370 02:07:16,120 --> 02:07:18,560 Speaker 1: it down team's throats and apply pressure the sky's to 2371 02:07:18,600 --> 02:07:22,320 Speaker 1: limit them. We ain't gonna run it down people's throats. No, 2372 02:07:22,440 --> 02:07:24,200 Speaker 1: that's not what they're We're gonna throw it over their 2373 02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:27,720 Speaker 1: heads times again. Yeah, I think they're gonna throw it. 2374 02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:34,080 Speaker 1: The running game, even on days when it's working, is 2375 02:07:34,120 --> 02:07:38,160 Speaker 1: going to be the compliment to the pass, the complimentary piece. Um. 2376 02:07:38,200 --> 02:07:41,400 Speaker 1: That's the most most of their weapons are wide receivers, 2377 02:07:41,440 --> 02:07:45,200 Speaker 1: pass catchers, UM. Their offensive line has been built to 2378 02:07:45,280 --> 02:07:49,840 Speaker 1: be good pass pro people and they run it when 2379 02:07:51,480 --> 02:07:53,840 Speaker 1: they can't not run it. I mean, you know, to 2380 02:07:53,880 --> 02:07:57,240 Speaker 1: close out games, when a team backs out, when they 2381 02:07:57,280 --> 02:07:59,560 Speaker 1: have like five guys in the box, they'll run it. 2382 02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:02,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it is not the centerpiece of their offense. 2383 02:08:02,960 --> 02:08:05,440 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and his arm are, and that means they're 2384 02:08:05,440 --> 02:08:10,240 Speaker 1: gonna throw it. So I'm not really lining up and 2385 02:08:10,360 --> 02:08:12,000 Speaker 1: waiting for them to say, you know what, We're just 2386 02:08:12,040 --> 02:08:15,240 Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna run the football and we're gonna control 2387 02:08:15,320 --> 02:08:17,480 Speaker 1: the clock. We're not gonna turn it over, and we're 2388 02:08:17,480 --> 02:08:19,520 Speaker 1: gonna let our defense win it. That's what it was 2389 02:08:19,560 --> 02:08:22,760 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. That's not the way it is in 2390 02:08:22,920 --> 02:08:29,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. It's uh. I think I'm sticking with Singletary. 2391 02:08:29,560 --> 02:08:33,360 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I'm just I like his approach 2392 02:08:33,440 --> 02:08:35,040 Speaker 1: to the game. Not to say that the approach to 2393 02:08:35,040 --> 02:08:37,080 Speaker 1: the game by the other guys is any different. Yeah, 2394 02:08:37,120 --> 02:08:38,640 Speaker 1: we know about his approach to the game has been 2395 02:08:38,640 --> 02:08:40,560 Speaker 1: written about and we've seen pictures, and I just like 2396 02:08:40,840 --> 02:08:43,680 Speaker 1: how committed he is. I don't know. I just think 2397 02:08:43,720 --> 02:08:46,800 Speaker 1: he's gonna be loaded for bear this year. He's gonna 2398 02:08:46,800 --> 02:08:49,480 Speaker 1: want to rip people's faces off. I mean, he's not 2399 02:08:49,560 --> 02:08:51,600 Speaker 1: that way. When you stand across from him and talk 2400 02:08:51,680 --> 02:08:55,520 Speaker 1: to him, you know, he's a pretty calm, cool, collected kids. 2401 02:08:55,880 --> 02:09:01,240 Speaker 1: He's definitely self motivated. I just see him frothing at 2402 02:09:01,240 --> 02:09:02,760 Speaker 1: the mouth this year. I think he's just gonna want 2403 02:09:02,760 --> 02:09:04,640 Speaker 1: to tear people's faces off. I think it's handed the 2404 02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:06,480 Speaker 1: ball well. I think when you get to your third year, 2405 02:09:06,520 --> 02:09:09,320 Speaker 1: you realize you're in this league and you've seen enough 2406 02:09:09,320 --> 02:09:14,040 Speaker 1: guys come and go and be released and lose their 2407 02:09:14,120 --> 02:09:16,960 Speaker 1: jobs for a number of reasons, so you realize all 2408 02:09:17,000 --> 02:09:19,040 Speaker 1: these things could happen to you. You get to realize 2409 02:09:19,200 --> 02:09:21,400 Speaker 1: it could happen to you when you see them draft 2410 02:09:21,440 --> 02:09:23,560 Speaker 1: a player at your position the very next year in 2411 02:09:23,600 --> 02:09:26,680 Speaker 1: the exact same slot they drafted you in the third round. Yeah, 2412 02:09:26,880 --> 02:09:28,880 Speaker 1: and then the next year they you see him draft 2413 02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:33,440 Speaker 1: or sign a free agent that has some gifts that 2414 02:09:33,480 --> 02:09:37,200 Speaker 1: you don't have that lights a fire under you. And 2415 02:09:37,240 --> 02:09:40,200 Speaker 1: that's part of the atmosphere that makes this team so 2416 02:09:40,320 --> 02:09:43,360 Speaker 1: productive and gets them playing so hard for this coach 2417 02:09:43,400 --> 02:09:46,880 Speaker 1: and this coaching staff. Coaching staff loves the guys they've got, 2418 02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:49,720 Speaker 1: but they have high expectations of them, and they keep 2419 02:09:49,760 --> 02:09:53,520 Speaker 1: it so that there are constantly guys who are who 2420 02:09:53,680 --> 02:09:55,720 Speaker 1: we I think this is? This is the most amazing 2421 02:09:55,720 --> 02:09:58,320 Speaker 1: thing because it's really hard to do. Think about like 2422 02:09:58,400 --> 02:10:01,480 Speaker 1: the Kumero kid last year, nobody knew who he was. 2423 02:10:02,320 --> 02:10:04,480 Speaker 1: They pick him up off the practice squad at Green Bay, 2424 02:10:04,800 --> 02:10:07,800 Speaker 1: or after Green Bay releases him, they pick up this kid, 2425 02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:10,480 Speaker 1: Jake Kumro. He's a six four guy to twelve. Hey, 2426 02:10:10,480 --> 02:10:12,760 Speaker 1: he's got some size, we'll see. And he comes out 2427 02:10:12,800 --> 02:10:14,640 Speaker 1: and he's playing well, and all of a sudden he's 2428 02:10:14,640 --> 02:10:17,640 Speaker 1: active on a game. Danny's covering kicks awesome. Wow. And 2429 02:10:17,640 --> 02:10:19,440 Speaker 1: then one day he gets in and he catches a 2430 02:10:19,480 --> 02:10:22,400 Speaker 1: touchdown pass. The next week they have to release him 2431 02:10:22,440 --> 02:10:25,000 Speaker 1: because of all the injuries and did the roster management, 2432 02:10:25,400 --> 02:10:28,160 Speaker 1: and now he's back here again. You see guys come 2433 02:10:28,160 --> 02:10:30,600 Speaker 1: and go like that and play well and getting releasing 2434 02:10:30,960 --> 02:10:34,640 Speaker 1: you realize that you have got to stay sharp, and 2435 02:10:34,800 --> 02:10:37,560 Speaker 1: you think about that in the offseason. And Devin Singletary 2436 02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:39,720 Speaker 1: and the pictures and the word we're getting is exactly 2437 02:10:39,880 --> 02:10:43,320 Speaker 1: his mindset. He's coming in and in your third year, 2438 02:10:43,360 --> 02:10:47,040 Speaker 1: it's like you're established, but that just means the shines off. 2439 02:10:48,120 --> 02:10:50,600 Speaker 1: You know, you're just another You're another guy. That is 2440 02:10:50,800 --> 02:10:53,280 Speaker 1: just a name on the roster now, and you start 2441 02:10:53,320 --> 02:10:57,320 Speaker 1: to get that feeling like I'm I've really got to 2442 02:10:57,440 --> 02:11:01,520 Speaker 1: play well to distinguish myself. And that is a big 2443 02:11:01,600 --> 02:11:04,240 Speaker 1: motivator for guys in their offseason. When they come into 2444 02:11:04,280 --> 02:11:06,400 Speaker 1: training camp, you're gonna get a chance to see you 2445 02:11:06,440 --> 02:11:10,480 Speaker 1: can a lot of times there'll be guys that talk 2446 02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:12,560 Speaker 1: to people and say, Wow, I can't believe how he Wow, 2447 02:11:12,600 --> 02:11:15,200 Speaker 1: look at that guy. There's a marked difference in guys 2448 02:11:15,400 --> 02:11:17,480 Speaker 1: from year to year. It's like we were talking about yesterday. 2449 02:11:17,480 --> 02:11:19,400 Speaker 1: I saw in Eric Molds in ninety eight and that 2450 02:11:19,480 --> 02:11:22,560 Speaker 1: was his third year. So there'll be guys this year 2451 02:11:22,600 --> 02:11:24,360 Speaker 1: that look like that going into their third year. I 2452 02:11:24,360 --> 02:11:25,920 Speaker 1: think Singletary is going to be one of them. Break 2453 02:11:25,960 --> 02:11:27,640 Speaker 1: time for us, Steve and I to close things up 2454 02:11:27,640 --> 02:11:29,520 Speaker 1: when we return here on One Bill's Live presented by 2455 02:11:29,560 --> 02:11:45,960 Speaker 1: Kellid to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. What have we 2456 02:11:46,040 --> 02:11:49,960 Speaker 1: learned brought to your buys Skyworks, the official construction equipment 2457 02:11:50,000 --> 02:11:53,480 Speaker 1: rental company other Buffalo Bills. I think we learned there's 2458 02:11:53,520 --> 02:11:56,120 Speaker 1: pretty balanced support out there for all the third year 2459 02:11:56,200 --> 02:11:58,400 Speaker 1: guys that we had his choices on the tweet sheet 2460 02:11:58,440 --> 02:12:03,000 Speaker 1: today got a good body of support for Ed Oliver 2461 02:12:03,920 --> 02:12:05,960 Speaker 1: as far as having a breakout year in year three. 2462 02:12:06,120 --> 02:12:10,640 Speaker 1: Good level of support for Singletary and for Knox. Yeah, 2463 02:12:11,800 --> 02:12:13,920 Speaker 1: and as we said in the last segment, it could 2464 02:12:14,000 --> 02:12:17,600 Speaker 1: very well come down to who gets the most opportunities, 2465 02:12:17,600 --> 02:12:20,320 Speaker 1: and that could, at least at the skill positions, that 2466 02:12:20,360 --> 02:12:26,160 Speaker 1: could very well be Knox knowing that he is probably 2467 02:12:26,280 --> 02:12:30,840 Speaker 1: going into camp easily seen as the number one tight 2468 02:12:30,960 --> 02:12:35,840 Speaker 1: end on the depth chart. Singletary is probably the number 2469 02:12:35,880 --> 02:12:39,720 Speaker 1: one guy on the running back depth chart, and then 2470 02:12:40,880 --> 02:12:45,360 Speaker 1: Oliver is probably your number one three technique guy, right, 2471 02:12:46,240 --> 02:12:50,000 Speaker 1: so they all have a chance to be quote unquote starter. 2472 02:12:50,080 --> 02:12:51,720 Speaker 1: And like I said just in the last segment, I 2473 02:12:51,760 --> 02:12:55,520 Speaker 1: think Dawson's Knox is going to get the most opportunity 2474 02:12:55,520 --> 02:12:58,400 Speaker 1: because of the rotation of the defensive line and the 2475 02:12:58,520 --> 02:13:00,800 Speaker 1: rotation in the offensive backfie. There's just not that many 2476 02:13:00,840 --> 02:13:03,440 Speaker 1: tight ends to go around, and Dawson's seems to be 2477 02:13:03,520 --> 02:13:05,560 Speaker 1: that got the odds on favor to play the bulk 2478 02:13:05,600 --> 02:13:08,560 Speaker 1: of the snaps at least at this early stage. Hollister 2479 02:13:08,600 --> 02:13:12,720 Speaker 1: will get his chances, but you know they really Tyler Craft, 2480 02:13:12,760 --> 02:13:15,160 Speaker 1: Lee Smith gone, Hollister is the only guy they brought back, 2481 02:13:15,200 --> 02:13:18,560 Speaker 1: so it's the there's some other guy. Nate Becker's here, 2482 02:13:19,120 --> 02:13:22,120 Speaker 1: who's on the practice Jie gilliam Reggie Gilliams on the roster. 2483 02:13:22,800 --> 02:13:25,680 Speaker 1: Hollister and Knox are the only ones with any significant 2484 02:13:26,240 --> 02:13:28,960 Speaker 1: playing time in the NFL. So I'm an undrafted rookie, 2485 02:13:29,360 --> 02:13:31,480 Speaker 1: so it'll be interesting to see. But I think Knox 2486 02:13:31,560 --> 02:13:33,960 Speaker 1: is going to get more snaps, at least at this 2487 02:13:34,040 --> 02:13:36,840 Speaker 1: early stage. Maybe that opportunity is what puts him through 2488 02:13:36,840 --> 02:13:39,400 Speaker 1: and has a breakout season. But it's easy, easy to 2489 02:13:39,440 --> 02:13:42,080 Speaker 1: jump through those hoops and see all of these guys 2490 02:13:42,120 --> 02:13:44,520 Speaker 1: taking a step forward in some way. We've got NFL 2491 02:13:44,600 --> 02:13:48,360 Speaker 1: Networks James Palmer joining us tomorrow. It's been on the 2492 02:13:48,360 --> 02:13:51,480 Speaker 1: show before, but he was up close and personal with 2493 02:13:51,520 --> 02:13:53,800 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence leading up to the draft as he was 2494 02:13:54,120 --> 02:13:56,920 Speaker 1: on the Jags beat for the NFL Draft. Will get 2495 02:13:56,960 --> 02:14:00,400 Speaker 1: his thoughts on Trevor Lawrence and his rookie minicamp, along 2496 02:14:00,400 --> 02:14:03,040 Speaker 1: with his thoughts about the Bills. As always, we will 2497 02:14:03,080 --> 02:14:12,360 Speaker 1: see you tomorrow at noon. H