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Speaker 1: Ethan Greenberg here alongside Eric Allen bringing you the game
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Speaker 1: Jets Falcons at the midway point of the regular season,
Speaker 1: the Jets trying to climb to five D, trying to
Speaker 1: snap a two game slide here at Mattlife Stadium. E A.
Speaker 1: We have a great show today. We're gonna bring in
Speaker 1: d Orlando ladban are also known as d let Down
Speaker 1: from the Atlanta Journal Constitution. And then of course Chad
Speaker 1: Pennington has always e A the Falcons. Okay, everyone knows
Speaker 1: last year NFC champions, very powerful of fens. Three and
Speaker 1: three so far this year, ironically all in three against
Speaker 1: the a f C East, and the Falcons are playing
Speaker 1: each team in the a f C East in consecutive
Speaker 1: war so the last four weeks will come against AFC
Speaker 1: East opponents after this Sunday. So last week against Miami,
Speaker 1: one of the big teams as penalties right, twelve penalties
Speaker 1: against the offense. We all know what happened, how did
Speaker 1: the Jets go about fixing it? And how significant our
Speaker 1: penalties against this offense that is top ten in the
Speaker 1: league right now. Well, Todd Bowles talked about it that
Speaker 1: they've already been doing some stuff at practice. I think
Speaker 1: they'ing a conference calls earlier this week. Leonard Williams said,
Speaker 1: I gonna do if I run Gasters or something like that,
Speaker 1: and you know want to uh, you know, hey, un PC,
Speaker 1: So it makes us really party should not get penalt league,
Speaker 1: and you know that lead to the game. And then
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles is asked about it. He's not gonna be
Speaker 1: too specific about it, but this is something I will
Speaker 1: actually write in my storylines piece this week, is that
Speaker 1: the yellow has Todd Bowles seen red. That's one thing
Speaker 1: that he's not gonna put up with from his team
Speaker 1: that over a hundred yards and penalties against the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: They now lead the NFL as far as penalty yardage
Speaker 1: marked against them. So they're gonna be doing different things
Speaker 1: that practice this week. They already have officials out there
Speaker 1: as you know greens. That's something saw throughout the spring
Speaker 1: and training camp. But I would anticipate the Jets being
Speaker 1: a much more disciplined crew this week against Atlanta. To
Speaker 1: your question, yeah, listen, you can't give this Atlanta offense
Speaker 1: that is his hit kind of a bump in the road.
Speaker 1: They did not play very well against New England, move
Speaker 1: the ball at times, couldn't finish. You can't give them
Speaker 1: extra opportunities. That's what penalties ultimately do, is they give
Speaker 1: free yardage and they give extra opportunities. Matt Ryan, while
Speaker 1: he's not of the numbers he had last season, he's
Speaker 1: still a terrific quarterback. We think about Julio Jones and
Speaker 1: Mohammed Sannu. I love the running Backstamante Freeman and Tavin Coleman. Conversely,
Speaker 1: I really like a lot of the things the Jets
Speaker 1: are doing on both sides of the ball, and I
Speaker 1: thought they were fantastic against the run against j Ji
Speaker 1: last week. He's talked about Matt Ryan and that he's
Speaker 1: not putting up similar numbers to last year when he
Speaker 1: was the m v P of the NFL. Last year,
Speaker 1: he threw seven picks in the entire season through seven weeks.
Speaker 1: Eight weeks, he's thrown six picks, so clearly not on
Speaker 1: the same page. Maybe it's attributed to the new offense
Speaker 1: with Steve Sarkisian because of course Kyle Shanahan now head
Speaker 1: coach of the San Francisco forty Niners, and bringing in
Speaker 1: one more theme from this Miami game looking forward is
Speaker 1: the killer instinct, and Coach Bowls immediately after the game says,
Speaker 1: at some point we got developed from what does that
Speaker 1: mean to you? And how do you think the Jets
Speaker 1: go about fixing it? Just me is finishing it means.
Speaker 1: So if you're an offense and you've got to lead
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, and you played really well throughout
Speaker 1: the game, and you're John Morton, who has been phenomenal
Speaker 1: for this team, you know, the one thing that he's
Speaker 1: gonna be disappointed about in his unit is that they
Speaker 1: weren't able to get any first downs. They had one
Speaker 1: first down on the fourth quarter with the lead mad
Speaker 1: fote in Elevin yard Broun. Conversely, defensively, we can go
Speaker 1: back and look at some of the penalties. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: there were some penalties on those drives and they were
Speaker 1: giving up uh short possessions that lead to touchdowns. But
Speaker 1: as Damario Davis said, hey listen, yeah, sometimes they're gonna
Speaker 1: be in scoring territory, but you have to prevent touchdowns.
Speaker 1: You make them kick field goals, and then you'll be
Speaker 1: able to hold on to a fourteen point lead or
Speaker 1: build upon it. I think ultimately, green's when you're up fourteen,
Speaker 1: that's not thinking how do we get out here and
Speaker 1: start the bus. It's more along the lines of how
Speaker 1: do we put another touchdown on the board before we
Speaker 1: check in a d lead. We can't leave this our
Speaker 1: taste in the mouth of Jets fans, so let me
Speaker 1: ask you, this is what did you like from Sunday's game?
Speaker 1: Because there was a lot of good to pick Oh
Speaker 1: my god, there was so much to like. Again, I talked,
Speaker 1: we talked about more in each and every week. The
Speaker 1: screen game was fantastic. Um. The Jets capitalized on takeaways.
Speaker 1: They two takeaways. They finished with fourteen points. Yes, I know,
Speaker 1: the one drive was one yard or two yards. But
Speaker 1: then you got to give the defense a lot of
Speaker 1: credit because they stopped the run. I thought they were
Speaker 1: better getting after the quarterback and they came up with
Speaker 1: the takeaways. How about Jamal Ams with the blitz the
Speaker 1: deflection and Mohammad Wilkerson with the interception. I thought that
Speaker 1: was more Wilke's best game in two thousand seventeen. So
Speaker 1: that's another another encourage on his birthday. On his birthday birthday,
Speaker 1: Marcus May was he was excellent. He's all playing in
Speaker 1: the run. He had the reception, he might have had
Speaker 1: another one. There's a lot of things you can look at,
Speaker 1: but you know, right now the Jets are about cleaning
Speaker 1: up the stakes looking ahead to Atlanta, and I anticipate
Speaker 1: they'll have a better performance for sixty minutes this week
Speaker 1: at My Life Stadium and whatever the Jets take, whatever
Speaker 1: they eat the morning before they play, J J I.
Speaker 1: It's phenomenal because Gi got stuffed this game. He had
Speaker 1: twenty three carries for under fifty yards. That's an average
Speaker 1: of had just over fifty yards, right, so, and then
Speaker 1: he had that first game was eleven carries, sixteen yards.
Speaker 1: JG I. He's gonna be happy he doesn't have to
Speaker 1: see the Jets again this year. All right, Greens, let's
Speaker 1: bring in d Orlando Lead better better known is d
Speaker 1: Lead down there in the a t L. He covers
Speaker 1: the Falcons for the Atlanta Journal Constitution for a long
Speaker 1: time during his illustrious career. Uh d lad You wrote
Speaker 1: the other day that the Falcons had a team meeting
Speaker 1: following a loss to the New England Patriots, their third
Speaker 1: CONTs secutive loss. What kind of issues were aired out
Speaker 1: between the players? Well, you know, just the they're playing hard. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's no there's no issues there with regards to the
Speaker 1: effort that's being put out on the field. But they're
Speaker 1: not executing in uh, you know, an elite way. They're
Speaker 1: not playing like they did last year. Uh. You know
Speaker 1: there were some uh issues with regards to you know,
Speaker 1: play calling, but you know they don't care about what's called.
Speaker 1: They want to execute. You know, the you gotta block
Speaker 1: field goal, you gotta miss still go you got uh
Speaker 1: you know you're moving the bar between the thirties and
Speaker 1: not scoring in the red dog. You know, they got
Speaker 1: a lot of issues so that they had to clear
Speaker 1: the air, uh try to get this season turned around.
Speaker 1: De led what do you from your advantage point, what
Speaker 1: do you think is the biggest difference between last year
Speaker 1: and this year? Because when you look at this Falcons team,
Speaker 1: they started three and oh and then the last three
Speaker 1: games they've lost three of them, ironically, all three against
Speaker 1: AFC East opponents. Yeah, no question about it. I think
Speaker 1: they started off okay up um, you know, uh could
Speaker 1: have lost Chicago and Detroit games could really be one
Speaker 1: in five right here. Uh. But you know what I
Speaker 1: don't think they were ready for was the fact that
Speaker 1: every team, even if they had been playing in Cleveland Browns,
Speaker 1: every team was gonna come at them hard. By getting
Speaker 1: to Super Bowl, they had the attention of every team
Speaker 1: in the league, and they, you know, have gotten everybody's
Speaker 1: best shot. And so they've had to be on top
Speaker 1: of their game here early. And it's pretty clearly that
Speaker 1: they're struggling offensively, uh, to score points and in the
Speaker 1: red zone, and the defense is struggling to get off
Speaker 1: the fielding third downs. They didn't have any clue on
Speaker 1: how hard it was gonna be with everybody coming at you,
Speaker 1: you know, with their guns blazing. Kyle Shanahan did a
Speaker 1: phenomenal job there, obviously earned his new position with the
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners. Steve Sarkisian is now the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: What's been the biggest difference that you see with the
Speaker 1: new play caller? The biggest differences he didn't learn from
Speaker 1: the mistakes of Shanahan. You know, he thought he could
Speaker 1: just put the same thing back in place and go
Speaker 1: with it. And uh, you know, they didn't run the
Speaker 1: ball in the Super Bowl and third and one because
Speaker 1: they didn't believe they could power the Patriots. And they're
Speaker 1: still throwing the ball on third and short and trying
Speaker 1: to finesse thing. Third and one against Buffalo, they throw
Speaker 1: a path four from one. They throw a path against
Speaker 1: the against the uh Patriots last week they try to
Speaker 1: just sweep on the one yard four from doll. That's
Speaker 1: just ridiculous. So, uh, you know, some of these players
Speaker 1: might have worked in college, but not in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta load it up and go at people
Speaker 1: and the shortyard the situation is walking down the offense
Speaker 1: in the red zone. Do you think when you look
Speaker 1: at this offense and you've been covering this team for
Speaker 1: a long time, I see a talented backfield with DeVante
Speaker 1: Freeman and Tevin Coleman, do you think they need more
Speaker 1: balance going forward? Oh yeah, no question about it. Because
Speaker 1: they have the ability to exploit linebacker. They have the
Speaker 1: ability to get out in space and make the kitch
Speaker 1: make a move and then that's gonna open up things
Speaker 1: for Julio Jones and Taylor Gabriel if people have to
Speaker 1: come up and guard them, but you know they didn't.
Speaker 1: They've gotten away from that in the last two games
Speaker 1: for some reason. I haven't been able to get their
Speaker 1: backs isolated on the on the linebackers. And uh, you
Speaker 1: know the runnings there, the numbers look good there. Do
Speaker 1: they need to run it more? Perhaps on the defensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball. What sticks out to me is
Speaker 1: the speed on the Falcons defense. So if you're the Jets,
Speaker 1: what area of the defense do you think they should
Speaker 1: be trying to attack the Sunday Well, the last two teams,
Speaker 1: Buffalo and New England ran the ball right up between
Speaker 1: the A and the B gap. They didn't even bother
Speaker 1: getting outside, uh, because they were able to just go
Speaker 1: downhill and get the guards up to the smallest linebackers
Speaker 1: and create gaping holes. The Falcolms gave up a hundred
Speaker 1: sixty two to to New England, a hundred seventeen to
Speaker 1: the Jets. Uh, we're not a hundred thirty eight to
Speaker 1: Miami and hundred seventeen of Buffalo. So the last three
Speaker 1: teams of rush rover a hundred yards against them that
Speaker 1: does two things. That keeps the Balcon's offense off the
Speaker 1: field and that wears down that Balcon deepfense that looked
Speaker 1: to be like a formula to beat the Falcons with,
Speaker 1: you know, more Porte and Balao pile all those guys
Speaker 1: that should be ready to go. This week, we're talking
Speaker 1: to d Orlando Leadbetter, who covers the Falcon for the
Speaker 1: Atlanta Journal Constitution. You can follow him at d or
Speaker 1: at d Orlando a j C. H. D. Lead On
Speaker 1: the other side of the ball, how we have teams
Speaker 1: gone about trying to uh contain the Falcons offense? Because
Speaker 1: we were flying back from Miami. I looked at the
Speaker 1: score of that New England game and I was surprised
Speaker 1: that they weren't able to put more points on the board. Um,
Speaker 1: we talked about the play calling, but how I have
Speaker 1: teams tried to attack this Falcon's offense because they haven't
Speaker 1: been putting up the numbers that were accustomed to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no doubt. It all starts with taking away Julio Jones
Speaker 1: and uh a lot of teams have done done that
Speaker 1: or tried to do that. He had his first touchdown
Speaker 1: last week at garbage time. So the Bathings haven't done
Speaker 1: a good job of trying to move him around out
Speaker 1: and get him, you know, into different spots and places
Speaker 1: for for for uh, some targets. He did get a
Speaker 1: lot last week, but like I said, that the game
Speaker 1: was you know, decided by then you can get him going,
Speaker 1: then you know you slip it to the running backs
Speaker 1: underneath that and uh, you know a lot of the
Speaker 1: stretch runs and the outside zone runs that Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 1: built the offense on, Sarkisian hasn't been running those because
Speaker 1: he gets you know, if he doesn't get one, you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta stay with it. You gotta stay with those
Speaker 1: outside zone runs until you pop one and then you bam.
Speaker 1: You come back around with the uh, with the rollouts
Speaker 1: and the bootlegs and and bring who you across the film,
Speaker 1: try to hit him deeper tight ends underneath. He hasn't
Speaker 1: stuck with this rollout plans and his outside zones like
Speaker 1: Kyle would. You know, he wouldn't. He he didn't care
Speaker 1: if you stopped to make times He's gonna run to
Speaker 1: Freeman Bus the ninth one and Uh, Sarkisian's giving up
Speaker 1: a little too early on those outside zone runs. That
Speaker 1: you know, wear down defenses and get the defensive lineman tired.
Speaker 1: So maybe we'll see that here on Sunday when they
Speaker 1: played a Jet Dlatt. I think everyone knows about Julio Jones,
Speaker 1: but what do you think of the supporting cast around him,
Speaker 1: like Mohammed san New, Taylor Gabriel and Austin Hooper. What
Speaker 1: have you seen from those guys this year and what
Speaker 1: do they need to do to help out this Falcon's offense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well Mohammed's and knew you know, he came here with
Speaker 1: the reputation of you know, dropping too many pauses Cincinnati
Speaker 1: and then last year he caught everything that came in away,
Speaker 1: so he needs to get back to that. Hooper is
Speaker 1: the second year guy who you know, showing some signs
Speaker 1: that this might be a little too big for him.
Speaker 1: You know, Hea had a drop against Miami and they
Speaker 1: didn't want to talk to the media about it. You know,
Speaker 1: powdered like a kid for a couple of days. So hopefully, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he did graduate early from college, so I Hopeully.
Speaker 1: I'm not being too hard on him, but he needs
Speaker 1: to grow up. Taylor Gabriel had a Lord Legg and
Speaker 1: you're he's a smartish slot receiver guy. He's never gonna
Speaker 1: carry you anywhere, but you know when when you throw
Speaker 1: it to him, you want him to make some plays
Speaker 1: in space. So I like the group. It isn't changed
Speaker 1: from It's the same group they wrote to the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl with last year. And uh, you know, just the
Speaker 1: functionality of it seems to be a little bit off
Speaker 1: off pace defensively, What players have you liked here early
Speaker 1: this season on that Atlanta defense Greens and you talked
Speaker 1: about the speed before. Who's popping out at you defensively?
Speaker 1: And who's gonna have to play well against this Jets
Speaker 1: offense that is, you know, getting into game study right now.
Speaker 1: They feature a number of different players. It's not like
Speaker 1: they have a traditional number one, number two option. Josh
Speaker 1: mccollins through the seven receivers last week and they're using uh,
Speaker 1: three running backs in the backfield right now. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: the Falcings know about but Uh and Curly and Kurts.
Speaker 1: They know about Curts in the Seattle connections. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the guy really like on the Beckers defense, I think
Speaker 1: they need to build two more things around him as
Speaker 1: the but Andre Campbell, the second year strong side backer
Speaker 1: from Minnesota. Saw him come off the blitz the last
Speaker 1: two weeks and light up Brady and uh he had
Speaker 1: to pull off a cutler. But he's doing well. Beasley's
Speaker 1: rounding back in the form he's been playing with a hamstring.
Speaker 1: He should be ready to go and attack the pastor
Speaker 1: this week. Dion Jones can have been a kind of
Speaker 1: disappointment for me. But the middle linebacker, I really thought
Speaker 1: they built the defense for him to shine. But now
Speaker 1: that they're running, people are running the ball on him.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a little bit Uh, I want to
Speaker 1: see him step that thing up. He had eleven tackles
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. But uh, you know the run defense,
Speaker 1: stopping a run defense for me starts with that middle linebacker,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know they were getting away with planning
Speaker 1: two hundred thirty pile middle linebacker and uh teams, Eventually
Speaker 1: we're gonna test, and we're seeing that test and going
Speaker 1: on right now. It's way too early to call this
Speaker 1: a must win game, but for Atlanta to get to
Speaker 1: where they want to go? How critical is this ballgame?
Speaker 1: Coming up? After a three and all start, Now they're
Speaker 1: in a three game slide. They're coming to uh to
Speaker 1: a Jets team that has played while at home. I
Speaker 1: know a lot of external pundits didn't think much of
Speaker 1: the Jets before the season, but we know they've become
Speaker 1: a tough out. But as far as this Atlanta team
Speaker 1: is concerned, d lad Um, how critical is this one
Speaker 1: on Sunday? Yeah, it's very critical. And you know, Todd
Speaker 1: Bows must be commended for getting this team uh to
Speaker 1: play so hard when they let all of their veterans
Speaker 1: go and so forth. But we know about that. But
Speaker 1: Atlanta is very critical because you know, Carolina sit up next,
Speaker 1: then you got Dallas, uh, you know, so so they
Speaker 1: two teams that are you know, supposed to be fighting
Speaker 1: for the playoffs in the NFC. So whenever you're on
Speaker 1: the slide like this, you need to get a stop.
Speaker 1: You're good feeling back in that locker room, get things
Speaker 1: turned around, moving in the right direction, and you know
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to do the one game at a time,
Speaker 1: march here to uh, you know, be whatever they're gonna
Speaker 1: be this year. They're gonna be the A and eight
Speaker 1: falcon you know, be to be that uh be disappointing
Speaker 1: for the folks around here. After last season. UH, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure that would being going some changes, but a
Speaker 1: few of the leven and five Falcons get there in
Speaker 1: some kind of way, and UH needs to start this week.
Speaker 1: They found out how tough is um, how tough it
Speaker 1: is to be a champion, even in the conference champion,
Speaker 1: and UH, if they're going to UH get back to
Speaker 1: the playoffs, they're gonna have to elevate their playoff across
Speaker 1: the boot. You can follow him at d Orlando ah
Speaker 1: j C at d Orlando Leadbetter, who covers the Falcons
Speaker 1: for the Atlanta Journal Constitution, have a great trip ups
Speaker 1: here over the weekend, and UH we'll see uh in
Speaker 1: the MetLife Stadium press box on Sunday. Alright, guys, thanks
Speaker 1: for having me, and we'll see you attended. Alright, Green.
Speaker 1: So it's an interesting situation down there in Atlanta. You know,
Speaker 1: this team is going to be looking forward to getting
Speaker 1: back on the field and in the win column, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna face the feisty Jets team. When you look
Speaker 1: at their offense, as d led said, a lot of weapons,
Speaker 1: but they're still trying to get into a groove, into
Speaker 1: a rhythm with Steve Sarkisian and Julio Jones, you know,
Speaker 1: debatably the best receiver in the NFL. Spart Scott said
Speaker 1: this week he's the best receiver now, all right, so
Speaker 1: let's say he's the best receiver in the NFL, per
Speaker 1: Bart Scott, Julio Jones only has one touchdown catch on
Speaker 1: the year, and that was last week against the Patriots,
Speaker 1: which was a phenomenal catch, by the way, Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was still a phenomenal catch. And so I
Speaker 1: know Julio has been nicked up. Mohammed Sanu, the former
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengal, he was nicked up. He missed a game
Speaker 1: or two with an string injury. And the thing that
Speaker 1: stuck out to me is that de Lad said the
Speaker 1: Falcons could really be one in five and against the Lions.
Speaker 1: Close victories over the Lions in Chicago too, and and
Speaker 1: that that's just I know, probably a lot of people
Speaker 1: will point to the Super Bowl hangover, you're up three,
Speaker 1: you lose it, But I don't think that's the theme here.
Speaker 1: I think it's and we'll touch on this with Chad Pennington.
Speaker 1: I think it's just more of a connection on this offense.
Speaker 1: Maybe Kyle Shanahan meant a little more to the offense
Speaker 1: and the then the public eye seems to have noticed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, here's something I didn't recognize or realize until
Speaker 1: doing some pregame study this week. Is Atlanta started four
Speaker 1: and three last year. That's something I did not know.
Speaker 1: And obviously they got hot. So this is a team
Speaker 1: that can get hot. I like playing them outside in
Speaker 1: your building. I know it's unseasonably warm right now up here,
Speaker 1: but I'll take my shot up here at Montlife Stadium
Speaker 1: in front of the green and White crazies, um, you know,
Speaker 1: because they're gonna make it more difficult for Matt Ryan.
Speaker 1: I think that is a different offense, a different team
Speaker 1: inside the dome. I think the Jets. I think the
Speaker 1: Jets have to get into a lead situation this week
Speaker 1: because then you can do anything, because Atlanta's defense is
Speaker 1: built on speed and get into the quarterback and the
Speaker 1: old Indianapolis Indianapolis model, right with Peyton Manning. You play inside,
Speaker 1: you play fast, you get a lead, and then and
Speaker 1: then you let those edge pass rushers get after the quarterback.
Speaker 1: All right, Greens, let's bring in an art quarterback Jeff Pennington.
Speaker 1: Chad Jets coming off heartbreaking loss in Miami where they
Speaker 1: had fourteen lead, couldn't hold on to it. The Dolphins
Speaker 1: come all the way back for win. When you were
Speaker 1: looking at the film with the fourth quarter, can you
Speaker 1: pinpoint the problems on both sides of the ball, Eric,
Speaker 1: I think defensively throughout the whole game, I think the
Speaker 1: Jets secondary lost those man demand one on one matchup battles.
Speaker 1: I think that's where the game was one for Miami,
Speaker 1: was that there perimeter players, meaning their secondary I mean
Speaker 1: their provide receivers and running backs and tight ends won
Speaker 1: those one on one matchups where the Jets defensive lost
Speaker 1: those matchups. That's I really believe that um and I
Speaker 1: think that's that's what ultimately determined the game, where those
Speaker 1: one on one matchups. And you hear coaches talk about
Speaker 1: that all the time, and so when you play a
Speaker 1: lot of man and pressure like the Jets were doing
Speaker 1: in that game, you've got to be able to win
Speaker 1: those one on one matchups and and that that's what
Speaker 1: you're banking on. And the Dolphins won those matchups and
Speaker 1: the Jets did not. Offensively, I think that the game
Speaker 1: plan was another really good game plan. That's what's so
Speaker 1: hard about these losses here is that there are some
Speaker 1: really good things going on. You're watching some really good football,
Speaker 1: and in most instances you should watch a winning result.
Speaker 1: But when you have a losing result after a lot
Speaker 1: of really good things that should make up a winning result,
Speaker 1: I think it makes it even tougher to swallow. And
Speaker 1: so that's what's concerning right now is that with a
Speaker 1: lot of these really good things going on, losses are
Speaker 1: still being posted and that's what has to be rectified.
Speaker 1: How important is that when you have a lead two
Speaker 1: not necessarily score, but get a first down or two
Speaker 1: because a field position in the fourth quarter. I think
Speaker 1: this is an underrated facet of what happened there on
Speaker 1: Sunday because the Jets weren't able to get any first down.
Speaker 1: So conversely, as you know Miami and Matt Moore, who
Speaker 1: got hot as the game went on, he was working
Speaker 1: with short fields. Well, no question about it. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's one of the hardest things as an offense.
Speaker 1: When you have a lead, um you're in a catch
Speaker 1: twenty two, You're trying to protect the lead, but also
Speaker 1: the aggressive enough to post the first down to keep
Speaker 1: your defense of fulfield, continue to change the field position
Speaker 1: and keep it in your favor. And that's really hard
Speaker 1: to do sometimes. And so I think where first starts
Speaker 1: is your mindset and your attitude, your sense of urgency.
Speaker 1: You've got to make sure that you understand that the
Speaker 1: opponent has a big con sense of urgency because of
Speaker 1: the situation and the only way that you can take
Speaker 1: that away is to max that. And it doesn't mean
Speaker 1: you necessarily have to school points, but you have to
Speaker 1: max that sense of urgency, put some first downs out there,
Speaker 1: and keep a field position in your favor. Chad moving forward, Now,
Speaker 1: how difficult of a game like this? How difficult is
Speaker 1: it to put behind you? Knowing that you had a
Speaker 1: fourteen point lead in the fourth quarter. And then a
Speaker 1: second part of that question, Coach Bowles talked a lot
Speaker 1: about this team needs to develop a killer instinct. In
Speaker 1: your opinion, how do you go about developing that instinct?
Speaker 1: And maybe it's just suffering a loss like this, Then
Speaker 1: the exactly suffering a loss like this then leads to
Speaker 1: developing it because you remember that feeling later down the road. Well,
Speaker 1: I think that's a perfect phrase to use by coach Bold.
Speaker 1: I think that's he's right on the money. It is
Speaker 1: that killer instinct, and that's part of what we're discussing
Speaker 1: the question before. You've got to have a killer instinct,
Speaker 1: and you know you have a team on the roads.
Speaker 1: You've got to be able to put him away. And
Speaker 1: it's not about putting them away with extra points. It's
Speaker 1: without understanding the situations in the game and momentum and so, uh,
Speaker 1: this is certainly going to be a challenge. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a challenge, and to be able to it's not
Speaker 1: necessarily getting over the loss per se, but getting over
Speaker 1: the fact that here you are three and four, you're
Speaker 1: going into the meat of your schedule and the meat
Speaker 1: of the season, and you've let a couple slip away,
Speaker 1: and it's just a different feeling in the locker room
Speaker 1: when you're three and four compared to four and three
Speaker 1: or five and two or even five hundred and so
Speaker 1: back a feeling that really the only thing that takes
Speaker 1: that away is winning. And so that's the only way
Speaker 1: you can get rid of it. You can't talk about it, um,
Speaker 1: you gotta keep your preparations saying that you have to
Speaker 1: find a way to win a football game to get
Speaker 1: that feeling out of your system. Yeah, over the last
Speaker 1: five games, the Jets are three and two. Now. Granted
Speaker 1: they are on a two game slide right now, but
Speaker 1: if you think about it, they've had double digit advantages
Speaker 1: in each of the last five games. Obviously, they pounded
Speaker 1: Miami at home. They had a fourth quarter lead on
Speaker 1: Jacksonville on the fourth quarter, squandered that, but we're able
Speaker 1: to fighting, fighting krawl and get an overtime win. Then
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, of course, they had a ton point lead
Speaker 1: late against New England, they had a fourteen point lead,
Speaker 1: and then a fourteen point fourth quarter lead against Miami.
Speaker 1: So I mean the Jets have been more than just play.
Speaker 1: They've been more than just being competitive on Sunday's They
Speaker 1: put themselves in positions to win. What do you like
Speaker 1: most about what you're seeing? As from a quarterback, I
Speaker 1: know you had to be happy about the Jets screen
Speaker 1: game on Sunday. Well, that's exactly what I was gonna say. Um.
Speaker 1: First of all, the multiplicity offensively has been outstanding. You
Speaker 1: continue to see all parts of the offense being able
Speaker 1: to produce and see success, which is outstanding from a
Speaker 1: coaching staff standpoint. Also from a player's standpoint, the screen
Speaker 1: game was phenomenal on Sunday, and really the Dolphins had
Speaker 1: a decent screen game the screen game as well, but
Speaker 1: from the Jets standpoint, the screen game was phenomenal. Uh.
Speaker 1: They've been just very creative and how they're moving to
Speaker 1: football and it's not static football at all. It's it's
Speaker 1: dynamic football, but a lot of things happening, a lot
Speaker 1: of parts that are moving around, and so really from
Speaker 1: a fan perspective, it is fun to watch. And so
Speaker 1: now you're just starving for that victory, to see all
Speaker 1: these fun things that you see happening. You want to
Speaker 1: see that turn into a victory. And I think you know,
Speaker 1: when we talk about losing leads, the Pacers game doesn't
Speaker 1: bother me as much because that's an early lead, and
Speaker 1: early lead to me don't matter. You gotta play full
Speaker 1: four cluse. But the lead where you have them in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and you're either turning them into post
Speaker 1: games or you're losing those games, that's that's definitely a concern,
Speaker 1: and that's that killer instinct that Coach Bold was talking
Speaker 1: about that this team has to develop. Moving forward to
Speaker 1: this week, the Falcons come to that Life Stadium. They're
Speaker 1: on a three game slide. But everyone knows that this
Speaker 1: Atlanta team is very powerful on offense. It has a
Speaker 1: lot of weapons. So if you're from a defensive standpoint,
Speaker 1: how do you first go approaching this Atlanta offense? What
Speaker 1: do you try to limit? First? Well, I think it's
Speaker 1: more just about the Jets defense and not necessarily about
Speaker 1: the Atlanta's offense. I think that you know multiplicity and
Speaker 1: their coverages, multiplicity and what they're doing down after down
Speaker 1: to provide as many looks as possible and continue communicating
Speaker 1: with each other will be the key to success. Um.
Speaker 1: I think you know quarterbacks like Matt Ryan and Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: if you just give them the steady dose of the
Speaker 1: same thing all the time, Uh, they're eventually going to
Speaker 1: figure that out and they're gonna find a way to
Speaker 1: punt through. And so you've got to be able to
Speaker 1: mix things up. You've got to be discmversatile on defense
Speaker 1: as you are on offense, and and you know you're
Speaker 1: gonna take some once here there. But as far as
Speaker 1: eliminating the big play and when they do get into
Speaker 1: the red zone, being in on tame those touchdowns in
Speaker 1: the field goals, that's really really important. And if they
Speaker 1: can do that defensively, Uh, they'll have a chance. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously Atlanta's offense is not as successful as
Speaker 1: it was last year. Right now, at this point in
Speaker 1: the season, they're struggling a little bit. They're struggling find
Speaker 1: ways to get Julio Jones the ball from to find
Speaker 1: new identity NFC Saucasian. So they're finding their way too.
Speaker 1: But really, I think Atlantis coming into this game feeling
Speaker 1: like they can right this ship for their season against
Speaker 1: the Jets, And I think the Jets feel like this
Speaker 1: is a game that when people looked at it at
Speaker 1: the beginning of season that the Jets have no chance,
Speaker 1: They now have a chance, and so I think this
Speaker 1: is a game that is certainly winnable for the Jet.
Speaker 1: Mccon's a factory quarterback. He's played a lot of football
Speaker 1: in his fifteen year career. Obviously he's going to be
Speaker 1: very frustrated with the outcome in Miami. But I think
Speaker 1: he's a guy, as we've seen, he's very studying. I
Speaker 1: think he'll be able to move on quick. But would
Speaker 1: you give him any advice right now if you had
Speaker 1: a chance to speak to him, Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: my advice would be, um, you know, eighty percent of
Speaker 1: what you're doing, Josh is outstanding. I mean, he is
Speaker 1: playing really good football. He is playing on a whole
Speaker 1: he is playing winning football. The issue with the Jets
Speaker 1: right now is the margin for era is very small,
Speaker 1: so that other as a quarterback, where you let one
Speaker 1: or two plays become a disaster play, that's what's effecting
Speaker 1: your overall win loss records until somehow, some way. He
Speaker 1: just got to find a way to avoid those disasters,
Speaker 1: that's all. Just find those ways to avoid those disasters.
Speaker 1: Whether it be an interception or turn over, it could
Speaker 1: be so much as a sack that changes still position.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, what he's doing and how
Speaker 1: he's playing, it's been it's been phenomenal. He's doing exactly
Speaker 1: what he needs to do to leave this team. There's
Speaker 1: just a couple of things that he can clean up
Speaker 1: to give his team a better a better chance to win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just wasn't able to see that trap coverage over there,
Speaker 1: and by the time he did, it was just a
Speaker 1: second too late as that ball came out and floated out.
Speaker 1: But he counted for four touchdowns in Miami with one
Speaker 1: running TV a sneak and then the three touchdown passes
Speaker 1: and he is off to the second most accurate start
Speaker 1: for Jets passed or through seven games and the franchise's history,
Speaker 1: just a nick behind a guy by the name Chap
Speaker 1: anything Hey the other side of the ball, though, Chad,
Speaker 1: real quick. How difficult is it for Matt Ryan right now?
Speaker 1: You mentioned he's got the new offensive coordinator and sark
Speaker 1: Obviously he was in a lockstep with Kyle Shanahan before
Speaker 1: the ladder took the head coaching position in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: How long does it take for a quarterback with the
Speaker 1: new coordinator after flourishing and in uh with another guy
Speaker 1: and being really familiar and knowing what he is, thank you.
Speaker 1: Very rarely does a quarterback to just hit it off
Speaker 1: immediately with the play caller and the coordinator. Um even
Speaker 1: with Matt Ryan and Shanahan, they didn't hit it off.
Speaker 1: The first year they struggled and in the second years
Speaker 1: when they really came into their own. And the reason
Speaker 1: for that is as a quarterback, you're trying to find
Speaker 1: a way to be in the head of a play caller,
Speaker 1: and as a play caller, you find a way trying
Speaker 1: to find a way to be in the head of
Speaker 1: a quarterback um and trying to get on that same page.
Speaker 1: From a thinking ten point, it really doesn't have anything
Speaker 1: to do with how the plays is called or what
Speaker 1: plays and being put in the game plan. It has
Speaker 1: to do with the thought process. On Okay, coach sarkis
Speaker 1: and called this play on first and ten, What's he's thinking?
Speaker 1: He then calls this same play on thursd and five. Now,
Speaker 1: what's this thinking. It's the same play. That's two different situations,
Speaker 1: And so that takes time to work with each other,
Speaker 1: to gain a feel free each other, to learn each
Speaker 1: other inside mauth on the field and offer field that
Speaker 1: plays into the psyche of the quarterback as well as
Speaker 1: the play color. And that's what you're seeing right now,
Speaker 1: as simple as that, as well as the coordinator trying
Speaker 1: to learn the other parts of the Falcon's offense meeting.
Speaker 1: How do I use Julio Jones, how do I use
Speaker 1: the mow, how do I use the running game? What
Speaker 1: do I do to complement the defense? That type of thing. So, uh,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of just from a mental process standpoint,
Speaker 1: a lot of teams going on and a lot of
Speaker 1: people are trying to figure each other out, and that's
Speaker 1: why you're seeing that type of result that you have
Speaker 1: with the Falcons right now. Just jumping off that point
Speaker 1: in turn, is how special is what's happening between Josh
Speaker 1: McCown and John Morten Well, I agree. I think that
Speaker 1: it's one of these rare circumstances where you feel like
Speaker 1: the quarterback of the coordinator. They as they get it,
Speaker 1: they get each other, and that's a little bit of
Speaker 1: that just luck. Right. I mean, you can't it's hard
Speaker 1: to just match personalities and match that up say yeah,
Speaker 1: this is gonna work for right, and it takes a
Speaker 1: lot of hard work. And I'm sure that they're still
Speaker 1: working on some of those things. But for these first
Speaker 1: seven games, I think you have to really like what
Speaker 1: you've seen from the office to bid both from play
Speaker 1: college standpoint and also from an execution standpoint. Like I
Speaker 1: said earlier, you're not seeing static football, You're not seeing
Speaker 1: boring football. You're seeing some really good execution and some
Speaker 1: high level football. And this is just the tip of
Speaker 1: the oxberg. I think it's actually these guys are only
Speaker 1: working with each other let's say four to five months,
Speaker 1: so uh, but it's a good thing to see and
Speaker 1: and it's something that that could certainly be secil we Chad.
Speaker 1: As always, we appreciate your time with afford to speaking
Speaker 1: to you next week. Thank you God Greens. I think
Speaker 1: the key thing that Jed just said is defensively, what
Speaker 1: you can anticipate from the Jets this week is they're
Speaker 1: gonna show Matt Ryan different coverages throughout. I think that's
Speaker 1: what you're gonna have to do. That Atlanta passing game
Speaker 1: I consider a vertical passing game. He'll take deep drops
Speaker 1: and try to get that ball down the field. So
Speaker 1: whatever kind of pass rush you can get, whether that's
Speaker 1: the interior or off the edges, good stuff, because sometimes
Speaker 1: he's gonna to take those deep drops. But the Jets
Speaker 1: are gonna have to mix up their coverage just this week.
Speaker 1: This could be one of the weeks where we see
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of the four safety look
Speaker 1: to cover a lot of ground, especially just because of
Speaker 1: the speed of this Falcon's offense. I mean when you
Speaker 1: mix in Julio Mohammed's a new Taylor Gabriel as a
Speaker 1: speedster in the slot there that d Lead talked about,
Speaker 1: and then DeVante Freeman and Tevin Coleman. They're reliable hands
Speaker 1: out of the backfield. I'm not quite sure how often
Speaker 1: either of them are used, but those two guys are
Speaker 1: hard to bring down. They both have an average of
Speaker 1: over four on the ground for their careers, so they
Speaker 1: get downhill pretty quickly. Despite DeVante Freeman's size, he's he's
Speaker 1: pretty powerful And conversely is I'm really looking forward to
Speaker 1: see what the Jets do on offense on the ground
Speaker 1: because the Jets recently released Trevar Cadet. That means all
Speaker 1: three running backs are fully healthy, Matt Forte, thelalpow Eli
Speaker 1: McGuire and if two out of those three guys really
Speaker 1: get going on the ground and you eat up a
Speaker 1: lot of time. And Peter King was in studio and
Speaker 1: told this to us when the Buffalo Bills went to
Speaker 1: Atlanta went to the Dome, said they went on an
Speaker 1: eleven minute drive to neutralize the Falcons offense. Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: was not on the field, and to be frank, maybe
Speaker 1: that's a formula that the Jets could try to emulate
Speaker 1: on Sunday. It's a good it's a good defense. Atlanta
Speaker 1: has a good defense. The thing that jumped out to
Speaker 1: me over the last three games. If they're they're finding
Speaker 1: different ways to lose. You know, you mentioned the way
Speaker 1: the Bills came into the new stadium down there in
Speaker 1: Atlanta and they controlled the clock, a ball control offense,
Speaker 1: and then Miami falls behind by seventeen points and comes
Speaker 1: all the way back, not at home like they did
Speaker 1: against the Jets, on the road for the victory. And
Speaker 1: then in New England, Atlanta played I don't want to
Speaker 1: say desperate football, but they were taking some chances early,
Speaker 1: four downs, things like that in an effort to score
Speaker 1: in some points and it didn't work out for them.
Speaker 1: So they're finding different ways to lose early and their team,
Speaker 1: even though they represented the NFC no Super Bowl, is
Speaker 1: they're trying to find themselves. Bottom line. I think the
Speaker 1: Jets continue to find more things about themselves along the way,
Speaker 1: and I really think that despite a couple of losses here, overall,
Speaker 1: they're playing good football. Before we had out here on
Speaker 1: the Official Jets Podcast game preview e A this weekend,
Speaker 1: the Jets try to climb back to five hundred. Were
Speaker 1: basically at the midway point of the season here after
Speaker 1: this week, What do the Jets need to do? What's
Speaker 1: one or two things that this team needs to do
Speaker 1: in order to reach back to five hundred. So it's
Speaker 1: gonna be simple for me. You limit Atlanta the field goals,
Speaker 1: You make it very difficult for them inside the red zone.
Speaker 1: They had a tough time converted last week against New England. Conversely, offensively,
Speaker 1: you continue to finish with touchdowns, you play at least
Speaker 1: even in the turnover differential department, department, and you get
Speaker 1: the penalties down with that. If you can do all
Speaker 1: three of those things, you're gonna be in good shape.
Speaker 1: You'll be a five at the midway point. Once again,
Speaker 1: we had d Orlando led Better D lead from the
Speaker 1: Atlanta Journal Constitution and as always our quarterback Chad Pennington
Speaker 1: Jets Falcons. This Sunday, one pm MetLife Stadium, midway point
Speaker 1: of the NFL season. It maybe a little warmer for
Speaker 1: October twenty nine than in years passing. How about this one.
Speaker 1: This is the start of a two games and what
Speaker 1: four or five days for the Jets because they four
Speaker 1: hour rule. It's gonna be like a four hour rules
Speaker 1: Sunday in the locker room because no matter what happens,
Speaker 1: the Jets got to turn the page. Because the buff
Speaker 1: Little Bills are coming here the following Thursday night, Color
Speaker 1: Rush Alert, and before you know it, it's going to
Speaker 1: be nine games through the season. So let's see if
Speaker 1: the Jets can take advantage to some Hong cooking here,
Speaker 1: get a win, and then set their sights on the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. But this is gonna be a fun contest.
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