WEBVTT - A Doggy-Dog World with Samantha Bee

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, happy hello everybody. I would like to say Happy St.

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick's Day. Hi, Happy St. Patty's Day. The most important

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<v Speaker 1>holiday of the year, and I think that we should

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<v Speaker 1>all start out by well, I guess saying Happy St.

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick's Day to each other, right, Yes, I guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>the least offensive holiday of the year. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, it's I'm from Chicago, so there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>going on on St. Patty's Day. Usually there it's there

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<v Speaker 1>was dying the river green. There's all kinds of just

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<v Speaker 1>white girls drunk from the suburbs all over. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. It's a lot dyeing the river green. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that possible? They really do it. I always thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was just like a euphemism when I was growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>But then when I moved to the city, like later

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<v Speaker 1>on into Chicago, they like fully put die into the

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<v Speaker 1>river and diet like it's kind of always a little green,

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<v Speaker 1>but they diet bright green. Supposedly it doesn't kill all

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<v Speaker 1>the fish. But you know, yeah, that sounds very suspect. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully you're all wearing green today because it is St.

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<v Speaker 1>Patty's Day. But if you need something to wear, you

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<v Speaker 1>might check out our merch. Yeah, everybody. We have new merch.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Dear Chelsea merch which you can order on

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<v Speaker 1>my website Chelsea handler dot com. And we have cute

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<v Speaker 1>t shirts and cute hats and yeah, go and get some.

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<v Speaker 1>We have added some second shows in areas. I'm filming

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<v Speaker 1>my next stand up special at the Rymann in Nashville,

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<v Speaker 1>so tickets are now on sale for that, and we've

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<v Speaker 1>added second shows in d C. And at the Wiltern

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles and oh, San Francisco. Yeah, we're adding

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<v Speaker 1>a second show in San Francisco at the Masonic and

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<v Speaker 1>that weekend I perform at the Masonic two shows and

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<v Speaker 1>then Joe Koi performs the next night and the next

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<v Speaker 1>night and at some arena in San Francisco. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be both performing in the same city the same weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>So how fun, Oh my goodness, just bull descending on

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<v Speaker 1>a city and just doing wonderful thing, descending on our

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<v Speaker 1>hot air balloon. That's how we like to enter cities.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really fun. That's really fun. So are you making

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<v Speaker 1>a point to sort of try and tour together so

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually see each other or how does that

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<v Speaker 1>work in your life. Yeah, I mean I think thee

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<v Speaker 1>well his tours, and his tour kind of wraps itself

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<v Speaker 1>up in April and then because he's shooting his special,

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<v Speaker 1>so then he's done. And then I think he'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>just come on the road with me, like as a

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<v Speaker 1>plus one. And then you know, obviously we're gonna want

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<v Speaker 1>to He'll, you know, come and make surprise guest appearances.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my shows and like I like to do when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with him. But I think, yeah, we want to

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<v Speaker 1>work towards a thing where we're going to be performing

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<v Speaker 1>together so that the next tour we're in it together,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, So we'll have to figure out our Lucy

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<v Speaker 1>and DESI act. But I don't think it'll be a problem. No.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you seem to get along very well and

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<v Speaker 1>like people are psyched to see you both together. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just really fun. Well, I know Joe is not with you,

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<v Speaker 1>but I hear somebody's going to be with you soon. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I am taking my dogs alone to Whistler. I just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be away from them any longer.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wasn't so great at taking them out to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the bathroom last year, Like I put these

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<v Speaker 1>p pads on my balcony and I would just leave

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<v Speaker 1>the door open and by the time I came home,

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<v Speaker 1>there would just be like pe pads on my balcony

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<v Speaker 1>filled with urine, and I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm turning into courtly love. But now Joe, coming back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth, I'm feeling like he's going to contribute a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more. He's more of the get up and

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<v Speaker 1>take the dogs for a walk kind of guy than

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<v Speaker 1>I am. So I'm just kind of pawning that off

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<v Speaker 1>on him and using him like a bitch is basically

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing. I'm like, you know what, Joe, you

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<v Speaker 1>can take care of the dogs because he is their

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<v Speaker 1>stepfather and they love him. They're starting to love him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to be away from them anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they calling him dad yet? No, they're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to say that, and they I don't even think they

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<v Speaker 1>speak English quite frankly, so they're never going to say

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<v Speaker 1>that Papa Bear. Maybe that's all I can but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm gonna take them with me. That means I'm

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<v Speaker 1>taking them to like my stand up shows, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we're flying into Whistler and then they'll be there with

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<v Speaker 1>me for a couple of months. Are they like pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good flyers? Yeah, they're pretty good wherever. Like yesterday, Joe

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<v Speaker 1>and I took Bernice to Starbucks with us, and Joe

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<v Speaker 1>has one of these ridiculous cars. It's a convertible. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what kind it is because it's just so

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<v Speaker 1>loud you can hear them coming from like three blocks away.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, how do we get it? You're successful? Like

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<v Speaker 1>cool it with the fucking cars. Anyway, we brought Bernice

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<v Speaker 1>to Starbucks and she sat in my lap and had

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<v Speaker 1>her arms paws around me. Albeit it was a forced

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<v Speaker 1>situation because there was nowhere else for her to go

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like a two seater sports car, so she

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<v Speaker 1>was forced to have to hug me. But I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was adorable, And I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not willing to go another month without them. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you just like need that cuddly buddy that you can embrace. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna be upset when they're not around my belt,

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<v Speaker 1>my housekeeper, But you know what funk that? Because they've

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<v Speaker 1>been with her for months. They she took them last

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<v Speaker 1>night for her own She's like, I need to sleep

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<v Speaker 1>over if they're going. And then Felix, my dog walker

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<v Speaker 1>who's there works at the house every day, said the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. He had a sleepover with them on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god, it's like we're ride

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<v Speaker 1>sharing these It's like a group on with these dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone loves them. Our guest today is the host of

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<v Speaker 1>Full Frontal with Samantha b which is in its seventh

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<v Speaker 1>season and it airs on Thursdays at ten on TBS.

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<v Speaker 1>And she also has a podcast which I was just

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<v Speaker 1>on called Full Release, and that's wherever you get your podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Please welcome Samantha b. Hi. Like, I was so excited,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for having me. Oh my god, I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>to be here. Okay, this is strange because we were

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<v Speaker 1>just we just recorded your podcast and we are now

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<v Speaker 1>recording my podcast. But this is the actual first time

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<v Speaker 1>that we have ever spoken, which doesn't really make a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of sense. It doesn't make any sense. And like

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<v Speaker 1>I feel also like I've said your name in so

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<v Speaker 1>many contexts because as we talked about in my pipe,

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<v Speaker 1>like people are always like, well, you're the only woman

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<v Speaker 1>doing a show, and you're like, no, I'm not. Because

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<v Speaker 1>there's Chelsea, there's this person. There's like there's like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of so I feel like I've said your name,

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<v Speaker 1>I've tried to manifest you many times, and anyway, now

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<v Speaker 1>we're here. So I'm very grateful, thank you. I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited to talk to you. I want to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you first. I want to ask you about your your

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<v Speaker 1>seventh season of Full Frontal with Samantha b And I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know how that has been, what this experience

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<v Speaker 1>has been like, and what the most kind of challenging

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you faced, because I think we we think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you get a TV show, it's going to be great.

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<v Speaker 1>You get to express your creative whatever you want to

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<v Speaker 1>put out there, you get to do, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>comes with such a whole other plethora of baggage that

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<v Speaker 1>you're just like, there are so many challenges you come across,

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<v Speaker 1>and for every person that's different, because some people thrive

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<v Speaker 1>in different situations. So I'm curious to know what your

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<v Speaker 1>biggest challenges have been and like, really, what you've learned

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<v Speaker 1>about yourself through doing all of this. Well, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the big inning it was like put my whole

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<v Speaker 1>self on hold. I feel like I don't even really

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<v Speaker 1>remember the first year and a half because it's so

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<v Speaker 1>much busy making and you're just trying to like it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like every every show that you complete, you're like

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<v Speaker 1>scrambling to complete the next one. You're like always you're

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<v Speaker 1>just like churning and churning and the wheels are constantly turning,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're never at rest, never at rest. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you have a little bit more time to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like take a step back and think, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that much more time, and now kind of seven seasons in,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Okay, now I can now I can think

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. But for me, the most challenging thing

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<v Speaker 1>is actually managing I think managing people like managing a business,

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<v Speaker 1>like being honest about the fact that it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>business with real people who have real lives and worries

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<v Speaker 1>and concerns and complaints and you kind of have to

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<v Speaker 1>like be a part of that and fix problems and

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<v Speaker 1>fix your work culture and like that I found really

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<v Speaker 1>challenging because I'm not like a business. This person I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how to do. I'm not trained. This is

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<v Speaker 1>like a a gift. This is like a present and

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity, and you're trying to be very creative, but

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<v Speaker 1>you also I think balancing like the creative part and

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<v Speaker 1>the performing part, which is the part that you get

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<v Speaker 1>into it for with actually being a caretaker of people

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to make a work environment that works for

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<v Speaker 1>other people. That was the part that I found so

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<v Speaker 1>unexpected and and extremely challenging, and I still find it

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<v Speaker 1>challenging to this day. Yeah, I agree with that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very hard to manage people, especially when that's not what

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<v Speaker 1>you're setting out to do, you know, totally as a

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<v Speaker 1>comedic voice or as you know, as a journalistic voice,

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<v Speaker 1>like however you want to frame it. You're sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>trying to just share your opinion and you're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>p o V. And then you realize, oh, there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much more involved than that, totally. Like people go to school,

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<v Speaker 1>like people go to college to learn how to manage

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<v Speaker 1>and learn there's like techniques and there's philosophies, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>ways to approach things and ways to like phrase things

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<v Speaker 1>that are better than others. And it's like, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>it was probably hard for you to like you're a

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<v Speaker 1>performer and you're so independent and you're like you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>your own thing, and then all of a sudden, there's

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<v Speaker 1>like people working for you, and it's hard to grapple

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<v Speaker 1>with that. It's a really sharp learning curve. It was

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<v Speaker 1>for me for sure. I want to say thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for saying all of a sudden instead of all of

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<v Speaker 1>the sudden, because I have been saying all of the

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<v Speaker 1>sudden for many years and somebody very kindly and appropriately

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<v Speaker 1>corrected me and said, it's not all of the sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>you fucking idiot. For somebody who likes to correct other

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<v Speaker 1>people's grammar, you should figure out that you're saying all

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<v Speaker 1>of the sudden. And I was so horrified. So now

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<v Speaker 1>I listen to make sure everyone's saying all of a sudden.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. You know what, for my most of

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<v Speaker 1>my entire life, I thought it was doggie dog world.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what. It's a doggie dog world out there, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>And if you say it fast enough it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, yeah, it is a doggie dog world. So

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<v Speaker 1>how did you manage when in the beginning of your show,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're you obviously have more responsibilities than I do

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<v Speaker 1>because you have a family, So how did that work

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<v Speaker 1>out for you? Because I know you're with the love

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<v Speaker 1>of your life. You're with your partner. Yep, ye ye. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been married now for we've been together since whatever

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<v Speaker 1>that means, I can't I don't count. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many years that is, and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember those things, but it was. And we have

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<v Speaker 1>three kids, so we have like a sixteen We have

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<v Speaker 1>a sixteen year old, thirteen year old, and an eleven

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<v Speaker 1>year old. And so I think I did like a

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<v Speaker 1>medium job at a lot of things, and I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>lost myself. So I went like, there's three big pieces

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<v Speaker 1>of this. There's the work, and then there's my children,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's me as a human being. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just focused on the other two things. And I probably

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<v Speaker 1>didn't pay any attention to myself for many years. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I actually like was like I just give over.

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<v Speaker 1>I just kind of gave over for years. And Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the irony that you're doing a show with your name

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<v Speaker 1>on it, but you're not paying any attention to yourself, No,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all. No, it was. It's not It's not possible,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do think a lot of people experience that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not unusual, it's not like special. I definitely stopped

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<v Speaker 1>like having my period like I stopped all these things

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<v Speaker 1>were just like everything stop everything, like, shove all your

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<v Speaker 1>personal feelings out the door for a while. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>back to you later. And so and and I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like more and more fully realized human being now

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<v Speaker 1>than I was at the beginning. Do you go to therapy?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't look at you. I probably should. Well I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to, and then I was like, I don't get

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<v Speaker 1>me wrong, How I'm going to do this? How do

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<v Speaker 1>I add this to my schedule? It feel very yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And in the beginning of therapy, I would say it

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<v Speaker 1>felt very self absorbed. You know, you're like, oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>now I have to be one of these people that

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<v Speaker 1>just sits here. In addition to having my whole life

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<v Speaker 1>be about me, I have to go now and talk

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody about myself for two hours. And it feels

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<v Speaker 1>it is good in the long run, but in the beginning, when,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you have your own show and you have

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<v Speaker 1>all of these things, you just it is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a breath of fresh air to not think about yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you know when you found the right person? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you actually find I feel like that's the secret,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that you don't necessarily have to go with

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<v Speaker 1>the first therapist you meet, like you probably could have

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<v Speaker 1>bad ones along the way. Right. Oh yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>everybody talks about, you know, because people find one and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a match, and then they're like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>forget it, you know, what's the point. But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I would argue always that there's always somebody that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a match. It's just a matter of going

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<v Speaker 1>through the trial and error. But you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody has to go to therapy. I mean, let's

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<v Speaker 1>be realistic. Some people are fine without it and some

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<v Speaker 1>people really need to unpack their ship. So right, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of therapy talk on this podcast. We

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<v Speaker 1>got We started this podcast trying to give advice, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I wanted people to call in, like where should

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<v Speaker 1>I go on vacation? And then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, it got serious and I was

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<v Speaker 1>like big responsibilities. But I love it. I love kind

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<v Speaker 1>of helping people, you know, just be a better version

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<v Speaker 1>of themselves, because I think that's it. The thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I got so much from therapy was calming the fucked down,

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<v Speaker 1>not being so reactive and just calming down and sitting

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<v Speaker 1>still instead of having a million things going on. I

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<v Speaker 1>had an inability to do that. So once I was

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<v Speaker 1>able to kind of start understanding that it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>you're ever fully cooked, obviously, because what would be the

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<v Speaker 1>point if we were. But I liked all that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>when I was seeing like concrete improvements. Then it became addictive.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, wait, I can get better at this.

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<v Speaker 1>I can do this in a more mindful way. I

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<v Speaker 1>really would love someone to teach me how to calm

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<v Speaker 1>the funk down, because I actually don't like I feel

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm fifty two and I stand doing everything like

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<v Speaker 1>I never It's really I never sit down like my

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<v Speaker 1>feet or in pay at the end of the day

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<v Speaker 1>from just like the amount of like back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>like zip zip zip zip zip, constantly walking and I

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<v Speaker 1>have like live in an apartment. Where am I going?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you're on your walking treadmill? Who knows. I just

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<v Speaker 1>never said, what have you learned about yourself doing this

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<v Speaker 1>show that you were surprised to learn in a good way?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what good qualities at managing people? Did you find

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<v Speaker 1>out about yourself? Well? I did find out it's certainly

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<v Speaker 1>not possible to make everyone who works for you happy.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned that I care about people being happy. I truly,

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<v Speaker 1>like meaningfully would rather know what someone's problem is and

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<v Speaker 1>try to help fix the problem than to just stick

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<v Speaker 1>my head in the sand and pretend that there's no

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<v Speaker 1>problem and then it's going to go away on its own.

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<v Speaker 1>I did learn that I'm generally unwilling to leave. Takes

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<v Speaker 1>me a long time to solve problems sometimes, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always game to try. And that's actually like a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>painful proposition. It's much easier to like not care what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in anybody's life, or to to not care

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of like turn away from that. It just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of understood that it was better to have a

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<v Speaker 1>more difficult experience, Like if people were truly unhappy, I

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<v Speaker 1>did want to know it, and that sometimes came back

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<v Speaker 1>to me like it was sometimes my doing that people

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<v Speaker 1>were unhappy. So being willing to be responsible for that

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<v Speaker 1>was both a good thing to know about myself but

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<v Speaker 1>also very hard. Kind of like made life pretty hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a long learning journey. How about your relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with your husband, how has that been affected by seven

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<v Speaker 1>years of you doing this show? Well, he's really I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he had his show, he had a script a show

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time that I was launching this show.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were just like full pistons, like both of

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<v Speaker 1>us firing in our separate in our distinct categories. Like he's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's an executive bruiser of my show. I

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<v Speaker 1>was an executive bruiser of his show. So we were

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<v Speaker 1>just like firing on all cylinders for four solid years,

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<v Speaker 1>and somehow we understood each other's issues. We had like

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<v Speaker 1>a separate we had like a language of our work

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<v Speaker 1>and then a language of our family. We were both

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<v Speaker 1>very very good at making a separation though, like we're

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<v Speaker 1>very good at compartmentalizing our two worlds. So like when

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<v Speaker 1>work was over, we were on the kids. Were like

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<v Speaker 1>very into parenting our kids. We love them. We sacrifice

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<v Speaker 1>a tremendous amount of like we don't really party. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't we separated all that stuff out, Like we don't

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<v Speaker 1>we'll never go out. We don't have like networks of

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<v Speaker 1>like people we met at parties because we never because

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<v Speaker 1>we're always like, let's do some school essays. So we

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<v Speaker 1>and we were sort of like both went on that

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<v Speaker 1>journey and we're really like homebodies. So we were just

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<v Speaker 1>like work and kids and nothing in between, and we

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<v Speaker 1>were we did that together. So our relationship is very solid.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes we get frustrated. Sometimes we get frustrated with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I definitely tune out sometimes I space out if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in work mode, I'm so spaced. Everyone can tell

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm physically present but completely mentally disengaged. And now

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<v Speaker 1>instead of like arguing about it, they all just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of go, oh, she's gone. Like I hear them saying

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<v Speaker 1>that she's gone, and I'm physically there, and I'm like, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gone. I can't deal with this right now. Everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>been very patient. And do you have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>close girlfriends? No? I have a like really small group

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<v Speaker 1>of girlfriends and that is great. And I have my

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<v Speaker 1>husband and I have my kids. It's like a do

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<v Speaker 1>you tight have a really small family too. I'm an

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<v Speaker 1>only child, the only child of an only child, which

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting that you have three children. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably because of it's probably because of that. Actually, what

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<v Speaker 1>size family does your husband come from? He's one of two,

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<v Speaker 1>so we both come from relatively small families. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>have like a big network of we're very much. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're very much about creating an island that we

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<v Speaker 1>would want to live on. That's cute. It's pretty great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty great. We travel well together. We're just like

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<v Speaker 1>we're just like a little unit and we just bounce

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<v Speaker 1>around all together. Yeah. On your podcast, we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about my relationship and you were saying that you've met

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<v Speaker 1>your person too, and it's, uh, I think you could

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<v Speaker 1>always tell when someone's with their person, right, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>total calm. Equanimity is a good word for it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a really good word for it. It is a very

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<v Speaker 1>it is very grounding to be like, Okay, I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for it, so so grateful, But also I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think about it all that much because I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to think about it all that much. It's not really dramatic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a place of conflict. Which is not to

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<v Speaker 1>say that we don't disagree, for sure, we do, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a place of conflict in my life, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not something I have to resolve. We argue well

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<v Speaker 1>together and smooth it out quickly. Disagree about some small things,

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<v Speaker 1>but generally speaking, it's it's there for both of us

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<v Speaker 1>because when we got together, we were doing children's theater

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<v Speaker 1>as Data and Sailor Moon. Everybody download that damn trip. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was the star of the show. Did play Sailor Moon,

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<v Speaker 1>just in case anyone was wondering. But like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we went through like such phases of life were like

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<v Speaker 1>he was working and I was not working, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I was working and he was not working. So we

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<v Speaker 1>were always like when we had nothing, filling in the

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<v Speaker 1>blanks for each other. And that has like continued smoothly

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<v Speaker 1>into like higher stakes and bigger jobs, and we're still

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<v Speaker 1>filling in the blanks. When I'm really busy. He'll take

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<v Speaker 1>over this. He's away, I take over this, And it's

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<v Speaker 1>not easy, but that's how we do it. You mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>it's not dramatic, but you don't see you strike me

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<v Speaker 1>as somebody who has a very dramatic personality, do you?

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<v Speaker 1>I have in the past, very super dramatic. So this

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<v Speaker 1>was like I would say that Jason, my husband, is

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<v Speaker 1>the first person who he settled me down as a person.

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<v Speaker 1>He's actually the person who brought me to Earth, which

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<v Speaker 1>I needed and and didn't like before I met Jason,

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<v Speaker 1>when we were on our first date actually, which I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even know for him, it was a date. For me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm just going out to dinner with

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<v Speaker 1>this my friend Jason and were you guys friends for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time before you went on a day? But

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<v Speaker 1>we were co workers, so we worked on this children's

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<v Speaker 1>theater show and we were like, let's go out for dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like, we're going on a date and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, we are at dinner, and the whole

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<v Speaker 1>dinner I just talked to him about how I was

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<v Speaker 1>ruined and I would never be in a relationship. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well that's it for me, folks. I never

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need it. I don't need it, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want it. No more relationships, thank you very much. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>closing up shop and let's go to a movie. Should

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<v Speaker 1>we go? See you Waiting for Guffman? And he was

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<v Speaker 1>like I might kiss you and I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, and then I drove away, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>went on another day and then we did no thanks

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<v Speaker 1>and now here you are. Well, I think it's twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years later, right plus something. We're literally this I

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<v Speaker 1>think this month approximately twenty five years together. Oh well,

0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.399
<v Speaker 1>that's a pretty big anniversary. That's called the silver anniversary.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe you might want to get your ducks in

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<v Speaker 1>a row. I'm sure I'm wrong about that. Every anniversary

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<v Speaker 1>is like it's paper and this is the yarn anniversary.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it doesn't start to get really good until you're

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<v Speaker 1>like fifty years in and then they're like Pewter or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. And do you feel like, do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the last seven years of your life with

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<v Speaker 1>the show? Like do you feel like life has gone

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<v Speaker 1>by so quickly, so quickly? Like so quickly. I do

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<v Speaker 1>feel like a really only market in like Jason and

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<v Speaker 1>I were just getting old together. But I see it

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<v Speaker 1>in the kids because like when we started this enterprise,

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<v Speaker 1>they were little. I mean they were like kids. We

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<v Speaker 1>had a whole other life. We had a whole other life,

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<v Speaker 1>like a different physical circumstances. And I don't know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>know what happened, but I definitely looked up and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you guys are all teenagers. Wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>That's primarily how I think of children, just as a

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<v Speaker 1>reflection of age is a reflection of myself. Yeah, which

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<v Speaker 1>is which is why I never had them, because I'm like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to be reminded of that life is

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<v Speaker 1>moving quickly. How did you deal with the Trump years

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<v Speaker 1>since you were, you know, constantly talking about that that,

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<v Speaker 1>How did that affect your site key and kind of

0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:04.720
<v Speaker 1>emotional well being. I think when people spoke about Trump

0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:08.560
<v Speaker 1>dearrangement syndrome, that was That's what I felt. I had

0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 1>that like full ring where I couldn't Sometimes I just

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't communicate how angry I was, Like I would just

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<v Speaker 1>get up. It was so disgusted and horrified on a

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<v Speaker 1>really daily basis, and I it was coincided with paramounopause,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a trip on its own, to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where I didn't really sleep. I wasn't It was always

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<v Speaker 1>kind of eating properly. I'm never a person who would

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<v Speaker 1>like skip a meal from stress. I love meals. But

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<v Speaker 1>I would wake up like clockwork at two thirty in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning and be like, all right, what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the world? And then I would like get really

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<v Speaker 1>enraged by reading the news. Just a constant immersion in

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<v Speaker 1>the news cycle. It was hard to get my sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>back on track, and it was tough. I don't know

0:23:57.160 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 1>it was hard. It was. It was not as hard

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<v Speaker 1>for me. I mean I was still doing a comedy show,

0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:04.359
<v Speaker 1>like that's still a fun job. I still enjoyed my

0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 1>work and I had fun at work and it was great.

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:08.840
<v Speaker 1>But it was like sifting through all that anger to

0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 1>get to the kernels of comedy was quite an undertaking,

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.919
<v Speaker 1>and it was real undertaking for my whole team at

0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:17.800
<v Speaker 1>the show, Like we were all every day we're like, oh, fun,

0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:19.919
<v Speaker 1>ten new things that we have to that are going

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<v Speaker 1>to ruin the world and tangibly destroy people's lives and

0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:28.160
<v Speaker 1>set conditions for terrible things to happen in the future

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:31.720
<v Speaker 1>too vulnerable people. And you could just see it happening,

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, what the why is that anybody dare

0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:37.520
<v Speaker 1>anything about this. I did learn that there are no

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 1>heroes and no white knights coming to save you. You

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:44.840
<v Speaker 1>have to save yourself, and that's really hard to do.

0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 1>You have to save yourself and you also have to

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:48.200
<v Speaker 1>find We were talking about this last night at dinner

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:50.359
<v Speaker 1>and with some friends, and I were discussing, you know,

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 1>actively being hopeful and positive and knowing that you're putting

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 1>something out that is going to counter all of the

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:58.960
<v Speaker 1>negativity and all of the destruction that we see every

0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 1>day and not so wrapped up in that because I

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<v Speaker 1>also had that experience when Trump selected, I got so

0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:07.600
<v Speaker 1>immersed and so wrapped up. The only thing that would

0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:09.720
<v Speaker 1>calm me down was talking to other people who also

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 1>were as as pissed as I was. You know, it's

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 1>like the lowest common denominator of human interaction is like,

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 1>what do you think is gonna happen? Where is this

0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna go? What about what he said here? You know?

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 1>And then I think coming out of it and understanding, like,

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:27.560
<v Speaker 1>getting stuck in that cog is so unhelpful for for

0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:30.920
<v Speaker 1>spreading joy or light or hope or whatever your game

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 1>is or your currency is that you want to spread

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:36.640
<v Speaker 1>out there. It's nice to remind yourself even when all

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.639
<v Speaker 1>terrible things are happening, like good things can happen at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, and there are ways to inform, educate

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 1>and motivate people to get involved in the right way.

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Instead of allowing all of that to you know, weigh

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<v Speaker 1>so heavily on you, which I was so guilty of

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.679
<v Speaker 1>doing during that time, I just let it just engulf me,

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:56.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, instead of moving towards a place of okay,

0:25:56.920 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 1>how do we work towards something better? It's a real practice,

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 1>and it really does help to be off of social media.

0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 1>That's actually a very like to take breaks from that

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and to give yourself time away from that is because

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 1>it is a constants like an I mean, it is

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:14.680
<v Speaker 1>just an onslaught and it's so easy, it's so so

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>easy to get caught up in things that aren't really

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<v Speaker 1>all that important, or to believe that it's real life

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 1>when it's it's not. Controversies that bubble up on social

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:27.880
<v Speaker 1>media aren't necessarily things that people are talking thinking about

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 1>in real life, and there is a real life to

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:33.399
<v Speaker 1>be lived away from that. Yeah, and that's what we

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 1>do on this show. This is about real life. Social

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Media comes up all the time, as you would expect,

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<v Speaker 1>but I find that to be so true for me too.

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<v Speaker 1>I try so hard to have a life outside of

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<v Speaker 1>my professional life, outside of competitiveness, outside of looking around

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 1>to see what other people are doing and not focusing

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:52.880
<v Speaker 1>on what you're doing, you know, and actually having real

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:56.879
<v Speaker 1>experiences with real people that are independent of a profession

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<v Speaker 1>or of social media, or of an impression or any

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 1>of that. So what we're gonna do with Catherine, our

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:07.400
<v Speaker 1>co host, I know you're excited about this Samantha, I can.

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I can see the fervor in your eyes. We are

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:12.080
<v Speaker 1>people are going to call in, some of them or

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>will be on zoom so you can see them, and

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 1>some of them will write, Katherine, what do we have

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<v Speaker 1>in store for us today in terms of advice giving? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>My goodness, so many things. We have, uh, some baby talk,

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 1>we have bad behavior at one of your shows, Chelsea.

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Fear of your partner falling out of love with you?

0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Some some wild stuff. Did you fear that, Samantha ever,

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 1>that your husband would fall out of love with you?

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that's normal. I think that's normal too. I'm

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 1>at a brand new relationship and I'm like, at some

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:46.479
<v Speaker 1>point he is going to find out how disgusting I

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:49.879
<v Speaker 1>am and be disgusted by me, you know, and I

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:54.680
<v Speaker 1>and we're still in the honeymoon phase. Ish ish we're

0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 1>phasing into we're phasing into the other phase. But yeah,

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I have that fear. That's a very very normal, everyday

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:05.879
<v Speaker 1>human fear, of course. But you know you have to

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 1>know that they're having that fear about you as well.

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 1>So I would imagine you feel that way about your

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.119
<v Speaker 1>children too, Like, what if my children grow up to

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 1>hate me right, that would be in fear for any parent.

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Natural fear, natural fear. Great, something else to be afraid of? Yeah, great, good,

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:23.399
<v Speaker 1>let's add more fear. Yeah. Well, we'll take a quick

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<v Speaker 1>break for an ad and we'll be right back and

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:35.920
<v Speaker 1>we're back with Samantha V and Catherine. Al Right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's jump right into our first question. Our first question

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<v Speaker 1>comes from shar She says, Dear Chelsea, my future sister

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 1>in law has been in a relationship for about a

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<v Speaker 1>year now. I recently spent some time with her and

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>her boyfriend and noticed read couldn't stop cringing that they

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>use their baby talk voice in public and it was

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>driving me crazy. How do I tell them that the

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<v Speaker 1>baby talk is something for the privacy of their own

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<v Speaker 1>home and not for public consumption. Thank you, shar God,

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to Yeah, do you know, do you really

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 1>want to hear the talk? Do? What? What's my? What

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>you doing? Or else they're going to all that me

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>on Enchilada. I don't know what does that sound like?

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 1>What when two adults do that? It's exciting they're both

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 1>doing it if I love it. We actually do have

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<v Speaker 1>a clip from her, and so here is a little

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>bit of what that baby talk sounds like I really

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 1>want some Mexican food. Oh you do? Oh you when

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 1>you get a margarita the Mexican plish? Yeah? Should I

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:56.120
<v Speaker 1>have one margharita or two margarita's? M last time you

0:29:56.200 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>had to I had to drive you home. You're probably

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 1>right I should have one, I would say. Honestly, I

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 1>would say shoot her an email and be direct as

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>possible and say, listen, baby talk is not for public consumption.

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 1>No one is interested in listening to that. I love

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 1>you and that's all you have to write. Wait, but

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>she's your sister. Wait, so show the math on this one.

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 1>It's her future sister in law. So I think that

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>means her boyfriend's or fiance's sister sister. That's what right, Yes,

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>that's the relationship. So it's like not her sibling, but

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>someone is going to spend a lot of time with m. Yep,

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>that's a bit of an that's a bit awkward. Do

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 1>you think you can be that direct with your future

0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>sister in law? I think that when arms of baby talk,

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<v Speaker 1>when it's such a ridiculous behavior, you have to just

0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>hit the nail off the head and be direct about

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>how absurd. It is to think that that's acceptable. No

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>one is interested in hearing that. No one's interested in

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>seeing people tongue kiss openly. Like if there are pornographs,

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>pornographic pornographic videos, there are pornographs, there are pornographic videos.

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.959
<v Speaker 1>You can watch that for that kind of stimulation. Like,

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 1>it's just I think the short sweet to the point,

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>and I love you the idea I'm a porn where

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<v Speaker 1>their baby talking ad and I love you so much.

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I love you so much. Yeah, I love you so much.

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Will I love you so much? And I'm worried that

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<v Speaker 1>you're being taken the wrong way when you guys talk

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 1>baby talk. Oh yeah, that's nicer, you know. Maybe, I

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know. That's a tough one. I don't know. Right now.

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>All I'm thinking about is how many times I've done

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 1>that in public with Joe, And I'm just like fun,

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I hope that I don't do that, but I don't

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>think I do it. Sometimes I call him Buddha, Buddha

0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Buddha in front of people, but they all are in

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 1>on that and they call him to too. But that's

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>as far as it goes in public. We used to

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<v Speaker 1>have friends who called each other, babe, and I really

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 1>hated it. I was like, oh my god, and now

0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>my house one all night we started doing it ironically.

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:15.360
<v Speaker 1>This is the danger of doing something ironically in your

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>own life, because now we're like bed dead dead and

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 1>we just we've done it now for ten to fifteen years. Ironically.

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I used to make a joke about the word pussy

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 1>because it was such a vile word that I would

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, how's your pussy doing today, you know,

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>to try and normalize it, and then as a joke,

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 1>my sisters and I like I would go in and

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 1>like say hi to my sister. I'm like, hi, pussy face, pussy,

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 1>And then it became a regular like nickname, and it's like,

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 1>my sisters like, that's not funny. You cannot be using

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>it normally because it turned from a joke into now

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 1>you're doing it normally. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right.

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 1>You can't do that either. But Baby, I mean, I

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't find babe annoying. Baby talk is

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>for the bedroom on its pillow talk. Yeah, okay, okay,

0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. I mean, I I think, yeah,

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I think, be firm and hopefully make the first time,

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 1>the last time I accept your advice. I'm making a

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>mental note to myself, Jason, we should stop doing baby talk,

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 1>like I'm gonna learn a lot, well, especially your baby talk,

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 1>because your baby talk was come here, whoopsie, I got

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 1>a pickle or whatever. I hope no one ever catches

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 1>me talking to my cat. I don't because then, yeah, yeah,

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what it was, the way I talked to

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>my dogs. You have to have a special voice for

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 1>your dogs, like you just do. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's expected,

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 1>that's needed. Yeah, you have to have a special voice

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:42.479
<v Speaker 1>for your dogs because they don't have a voice, so

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 1>you have to supply them with one, and has to

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>be very high frequency, very weird. Yes. My mother in

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:50.960
<v Speaker 1>law when we were home visiting for the holidays, she

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 1>actually pointed out, She's like, oh, you guys baby talk

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 1>your dog a lot, like kind of constantly. And I

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>was like, it's not baby talk though, it's like a

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 1>mimsy speak. And her name is mit See, it's like

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>it's her own language. It's for her. Yeah, it's not

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 1>like I'm gonna talk to Bert like he's an adult, like, hey, Bert,

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.879
<v Speaker 1>come here. It's like that doesn't work. Well? Does nothing

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 1>works because you can't hear anything I said? But whatever? Well.

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Our next email comes from Carrie. She's in her twenties.

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 1>She says, I recently attended your show in Minneapolis, Chelsea.

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 1>It was amazing and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I had

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>purchased two tickets for the third row a few months

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 1>ago while I was heavily intoxicated, not just because I'm

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>a huge fan of yours, but also to spite one

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:37.319
<v Speaker 1>of my close friends who got tickets for your show

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>with some other girls and didn't invite me, even though

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I can guarantee that I'm a larger fan of you

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 1>than they are. They were up in the nosebleeds, so

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 1>I found great joy from having awesome seats, knowing they

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 1>were probably jealous a f Given that I splurged on

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 1>third row seat tickets, it took me a little bit

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:57.840
<v Speaker 1>to conduct an investigation on who I knew that loved

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 1>you and would be willing to spend that much. I

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 1>found a coworker who was like, hell, yes, I love

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Chelsea Handler. About a year ago, I hung out with

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>her outside of work and got drinks. Long story short,

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:11.600
<v Speaker 1>that night got real weird. And I made a vow

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>that I would never hang out with her outside of

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:17.279
<v Speaker 1>work ever again. Despite my promise to myself, I took

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 1>her up on her offer to come with. When she

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 1>arrived at my house at six pm, she was already

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:25.399
<v Speaker 1>black out drunk. We missed dinner, and long story short,

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 1>she took more shots during your opener, which perpetuated her

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:32.360
<v Speaker 1>intoxication level. I don't think you said one single sentence

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:34.839
<v Speaker 1>during the show without her screaming at you, and I

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 1>was completely horrified and embarrassed. People around us were also

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 1>clearly annoyed, and despite my attempts at telling her to

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 1>shut the funk up, she kept doing it. I just

0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 1>wanted to sincerely apologize for her stupidity and obnoxious actions

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 1>during Your show. I also feel bad that she negatively

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 1>affected the people around us from enjoying the show at

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 1>its fullest. She spent the entire day after puking in

0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.359
<v Speaker 1>my basement, and I will most likely be getting some

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 1>sort of con track notarized that says I'm never to

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 1>see her face outside of work again. How can I

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 1>get over my anger and embarrassment at what she did,

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 1>especially when I have to see her at work Carrie, Oh,

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 1>that's yeah. Well, first of all, I would think, listen,

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:19.799
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about that. I don't even remember that. There

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:24.719
<v Speaker 1>are sometimes hecklers, but that's not ruining, it's disturbance. It's

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:28.880
<v Speaker 1>not welcome, but it happens, and people get wasted. The

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:31.919
<v Speaker 1>bigger issue is your friends drinking, which sounds like she's

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 1>a hot mess, and so you should have a little

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 1>bit more empathy for why she's in that situation instead

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 1>of so much judgment towards her, because that's not helpful either.

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 1>And you're holding onto anger, which I don't know your face,

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know her face. It's okay, you didn't affect

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 1>my life in a negative way. You know, probably some

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:55.280
<v Speaker 1>people around you, but they're not still thinking about that either.

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:57.759
<v Speaker 1>Your friend sounds like she's just a hot mess, and

0:36:57.800 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 1>there's a reason why she's a hot mess. There's a

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 1>reason why she's blacking out drinking the two times you've

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:05.319
<v Speaker 1>hung out with her. So I mean that that's a

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:07.319
<v Speaker 1>pattern of behavior. So if you can find it in

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 1>your heart to be a little bit more open minded

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>about maybe helping her figure out what her issues are,

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:16.839
<v Speaker 1>because that isn't normal behavior. You know, you don't want

0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 1>to be out doing that. If that happens to somebody

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 1>wants fine, But if it happens to somebody dent of

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:24.319
<v Speaker 1>the time, which is the two times you hung out

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 1>with her, that's not a good indicator. So she could

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 1>probably use more of a friend than somebody who's judging her.

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 1>And if you could find it in your heart to

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 1>be that for her, that would be great. It's not

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.880
<v Speaker 1>your responsibility, but it would be a nice exercise and

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 1>human kindness. Samantha, what do you think? I agree with you.

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel like if she was carrying shame for that event,

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:49.359
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you have absolved her of that and

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 1>she shouldn't carry that with her. It happened, it's over.

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:57.840
<v Speaker 1>She already wasn't responsible for her friends condition, and it

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:01.399
<v Speaker 1>is unfortunate, but it didn't affect anyone's lives. It didn't

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:04.759
<v Speaker 1>affect if you don't remember, if it doesn't stand out

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 1>to you, it was unfortunate, but it's not something she

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:10.920
<v Speaker 1>should really carry. She shouldn't carry any guilt forward. She

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:15.319
<v Speaker 1>really only has to have a functioning work relationship with

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:19.399
<v Speaker 1>this person. I feel like what you're suggesting is great.

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:21.359
<v Speaker 1>If this person needs a friend or they just need

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>someone to say. You know, ad percent of our social

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>interactions have been really awkward and weird, and they're kind

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:30.840
<v Speaker 1>of centered on drinking. So if you ever want to

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:34.160
<v Speaker 1>talk about that, I'm right here. Otherwise, we're co workers.

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 1>We don't have to interact outside of this place. It's

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:38.760
<v Speaker 1>up to you. I don't want to do that again,

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:40.799
<v Speaker 1>but I feel like you might be hurting, and if

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:44.319
<v Speaker 1>that's the case, maybe I could be helpful. And that's it.

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Like you're not responsible, but you're friendly enough to go

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:50.799
<v Speaker 1>out sometimes, so it feels like there's more than just

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>a work relationship. But you don't have to like overstep,

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:57.759
<v Speaker 1>and empathy is good. Empathy for this person takes you

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 1>outside of your own anger. It can like you can

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:03.959
<v Speaker 1>alleviate that for you and also think about the things

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 1>that are adding to your anger, like your other friends

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:08.920
<v Speaker 1>getting tickets and not in fighting. You like that all

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 1>that all worked itself into that situation for you. So

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, you are kind of probably in a slightly

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 1>aggravated state because of all of that, trying to kind

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 1>of with the gamesmanship of getting better tickets and doing

0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 1>your own thing. So just take all those factors into it.

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 1>But definitely holding on to angers. It doesn't do anyone

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 1>any good, and it certainly doesn't do you any good.

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:36.760
<v Speaker 1>I totally agree with that. Yeah. Well, our next question

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:40.799
<v Speaker 1>comes from Charlotte. She says, Dear Chelsea, I wanted to

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 1>write in to ask about mental health social anxiety, in particular,

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:47.440
<v Speaker 1>every time I have a get together with close friends

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 1>or family, I worry after worried about what people think

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>of me. I continue to ruminate about things I said

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 1>or did, and I worry I'm being judged or seen

0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 1>in a bad light. I don't have the best confidence

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and wondering how you stay so sure of yourself and

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:05.240
<v Speaker 1>so comfortable with who you are as a person. Charlotte,

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 1>and she is here with us to chat. Hi Charlotte, Hi, Charlotte,

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>how are you? Hi? We have Samantha be here today

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:19.400
<v Speaker 1>as my guest. Hi, how are you? Fellow Ontarian? Nice?

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Nice to meet you, Nice to meet you. So what

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:25.839
<v Speaker 1>do you so you are overthinking? You're a little bit

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:29.839
<v Speaker 1>self conscious? Right? Yeah? Big time? Like I'll go out

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:32.440
<v Speaker 1>with people, you know, have a good time, and then

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:35.839
<v Speaker 1>I'll get home and I'll just ruminate, and even if

0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>it's about like nothing, you know, and I don't know why,

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 1>and I just want to kind of get those intrusive

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:46.840
<v Speaker 1>thoughts kind of out of my head after having like

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 1>a social interaction, you know, even with people that I

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 1>know really well. So I don't know why that's happening.

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:55.799
<v Speaker 1>And are you do you find yourself when you're in

0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the situations that you're already thinking about what you're going

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>to say instead of maybe listening or are you present

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:05.359
<v Speaker 1>when you're in those moments? Kind of both. I'm kind

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>of guilty too of like just thinking about what I

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 1>want to say sometimes Yeah, yeah, maybe I need to

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 1>be a little bit like what you just said, maybe

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 1>listen a little bit more. I always find that when

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel self conscious, the best exercise is to listen,

0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 1>because then it takes you out of your own headspace,

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, instead of thinking because we've

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 1>all been there and you're not by yourself. I've experienced

0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:30.919
<v Speaker 1>bouts of self consciousness after bouts of huge misplaced self

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:32.719
<v Speaker 1>confidence where I was like, wait a second, I thought

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I was that person and now I'm sitting here wondering

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:36.879
<v Speaker 1>what I'm gonna say when this. You know, when there's

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 1>a lull and the best antidote to the noise in

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:44.120
<v Speaker 1>your brain is to listen, you know, and and being

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:46.320
<v Speaker 1>in that moment so that you could hear what somebody

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:49.440
<v Speaker 1>is saying, because there is no wrong way to be present,

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:52.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, unless you're a complete asshole lunatic who's going

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 1>off on people like you're not doing anything offensive. I

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 1>can tell by talking to you for two minutes that

0:41:57.680 --> 0:42:02.480
<v Speaker 1>you're totally easy going night person. You know you're not.

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 1>You're not going to be pissing people off left and right.

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 1>So the over analyzation that are over analysis. I should

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 1>say that a lot of us experiences a temporary thing

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:16.239
<v Speaker 1>and it's just usually is derivative of what's going on

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 1>in your life at the time. You know, if you're

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 1>feeling other forms of not being completely settled, but it's

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 1>not a permanent state of mind. So first understand that, like,

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:26.879
<v Speaker 1>don't think, oh, this is how things are going to be.

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:30.400
<v Speaker 1>They're not. Nothing stays. There's no permanence with any of this,

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 1>and that's something you know, we all know just from

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:35.880
<v Speaker 1>life experience. But it's not uncommon to go through about

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 1>of self consciousness, and I think it's just about getting

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:40.719
<v Speaker 1>your head out of that. You know, there's books you

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 1>can read on mindfulness or present moment awareness or any

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff, which kind of they all say the

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 1>same thing, But it's just about really being present gives

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:54.279
<v Speaker 1>you the gift of not being so self conscious and

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:57.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, really being in the moment and noticing when

0:42:57.040 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts get derailed to take yourself back to the

0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:02.279
<v Speaker 1>moment you're in, whether it's eating a sandwich and being

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:05.400
<v Speaker 1>completely focused on that, or if you're doing your emails,

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 1>being completely focused on that, not doing it while you're

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:10.319
<v Speaker 1>watching a show, while you're reading the paper. You know,

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 1>I used to work out when read the paper and

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 1>have the news on and then listen to a podcast.

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Like obviously that wasn't working. So like really just being present,

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:22.480
<v Speaker 1>overly present right now in this moment because you are

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 1>feeling this way, but overly present, you know, when you're walking,

0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:28.440
<v Speaker 1>literally walk and enjoy the leaves on the trees and

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 1>what you're looking at and noticing the people. You just

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:33.760
<v Speaker 1>have to get yourself a little bit outside of yourself

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:37.719
<v Speaker 1>and like over exercise that kind of pattern of behavior. Yeah,

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:39.920
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. It's like I was worrying today too.

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:43.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, am, I gonna think about this conversation

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:46.840
<v Speaker 1>and worry about, oh did I say the wrong thing

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:49.440
<v Speaker 1>or you know, And I have a pretty dry sense

0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:52.440
<v Speaker 1>of humor too, and some people don't get it, so

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I worry about that as well. So I think that

0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 1>makes sense about just like paying attention more. You could

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 1>walk away from this conversation no going that you did

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:04.319
<v Speaker 1>not say anything wrong or weird, and that no one

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 1>We're all like we're all like sitting here going I

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:09.759
<v Speaker 1>want the best. I literally want the best for you.

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is so familiar, Like I totally

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:15.239
<v Speaker 1>understand where you're coming from. I feel like I've been

0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:17.320
<v Speaker 1>in this position to where I'm like, oh did I

0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:19.759
<v Speaker 1>what did I do? Like, let me just like go

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:22.319
<v Speaker 1>back over every conversation and go like, oh did I

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Are they thinking about me right now? And I'll tell

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 1>you what. One of the only gifts of being fifty

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 1>two is that you really start to get a clear

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 1>picture of how much people are not thinking about you,

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:35.759
<v Speaker 1>Like how much they are actually not going through the

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:38.759
<v Speaker 1>conversation and thinking like, oh, what a funk up, what

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 1>a weird thing that she said? They're actually just like

0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:44.719
<v Speaker 1>living their lives and going like that was really fun? Right,

0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 1>We went out for we had brunch that was really fun.

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed that we should do that again. They're

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 1>probably having like a really positive take on it. And

0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 1>if I can say one more thing, and this is

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 1>probably not like I don't know if this is healthy

0:44:58.239 --> 0:44:59.839
<v Speaker 1>or if this is bad, So I'm going to just

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 1>say what I'm going to say and like take it

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:06.400
<v Speaker 1>or leave it. But when um years ago, when I

0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 1>was like starting this show, my my husband always seems

0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 1>like really confident. He's got this Like I don't know

0:45:11.960 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 1>if it's a masculine quality or whatever, it's just maybe

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:16.919
<v Speaker 1>it's adjacent quality that he never really seems to worry

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 1>about what other people think of him. He never seems

0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:21.400
<v Speaker 1>to worry about it, and like it never would occur

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:24.080
<v Speaker 1>to him in a million years to be like, was

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 1>he did he think that I was too loud that time? Never?

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 1>And I remember asking him. I like cornered him in

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the bathroom once because I was like, please help me

0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:37.400
<v Speaker 1>release myself. Like I literally articulated this. I was like,

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 1>help me release myself from worrying what other people are

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:42.279
<v Speaker 1>thinking about me all the time. I was like, how

0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:44.440
<v Speaker 1>do you do it? Literally? What do you do? Is

0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 1>it like a man quality? Is this a masculine quality?

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Is this adjacent thing? Like how do you push out

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:53.000
<v Speaker 1>thoughts of what other people think of you? And he

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:55.440
<v Speaker 1>was like oh, he was like it's so easy. And

0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what do you do? Because I was

0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:01.000
<v Speaker 1>like just embroiled in all this up. He was like, oh,

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:03.360
<v Speaker 1>if one of those thoughts pokes into my head, I

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 1>just physically push it out. I was just like, not now, Satan,

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:11.960
<v Speaker 1>and he just almost in his brain goes, I'm not

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 1>doing this right now. And I started doing that if

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I felt like insecurity creeping, and I started going like,

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't have time for this right now. This is

0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:24.560
<v Speaker 1>not helping. And then I would do another hobby or

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:27.239
<v Speaker 1>something like, do something else an activity that was like

0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:30.040
<v Speaker 1>really physical, and it just got me out of that

0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:32.919
<v Speaker 1>plane of thinking. I don't know if that's helpful in

0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 1>any way. No, I think that is helpful. My husband's

0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 1>the exact same way. He does not here. He just

0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:40.360
<v Speaker 1>lives his life. And I'm like, oh my god, like

0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:44.120
<v Speaker 1>do you think I'm weird? You know? It's like it's

0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:46.360
<v Speaker 1>so funny, like if you as you're saying this, Samantha,

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:48.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, God, I was just thinking in my mind,

0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:50.480
<v Speaker 1>how many men have ever been like, God, I hope

0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I didn't say the wrong thing. It's like it's a

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:56.920
<v Speaker 1>total male female dynamic like that we've created from probably

0:46:57.000 --> 0:46:59.960
<v Speaker 1>from them questioning our thoughts and feelings. I will say

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:04.160
<v Speaker 1>my husband is actually like this, so he I hope

0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:05.840
<v Speaker 1>this is okay to share as he's here in the

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:08.600
<v Speaker 1>room with me. But he does have the same sort

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:12.120
<v Speaker 1>of social anxiety where like the day after a party

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:14.600
<v Speaker 1>he ruminates on it and he's like, oh my god,

0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:16.719
<v Speaker 1>I hope I didn't sound stupid. I hope they liked me,

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:19.120
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, what are you talking about? Like they were,

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 1>they were charmed by you. You're cracking jokes, You're fun

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 1>like you were conversing. He's so much fun at a party,

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:29.840
<v Speaker 1>and he's everyone loves him. He's tall and handsome and

0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:33.279
<v Speaker 1>well spoken and smart and generally great. But I think

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Chelsea's right, like it is one of those things that

0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:38.279
<v Speaker 1>has to come from inside and Sam as well. It's

0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:40.799
<v Speaker 1>like it has to come from inside of you, either

0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:43.440
<v Speaker 1>pushing it out or like being present in the moment

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:46.680
<v Speaker 1>and experiencing what's really going on. No amount of my

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:49.480
<v Speaker 1>reassuring him that he was great at the party, convinces

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:51.080
<v Speaker 1>him he was great at the party. It sort of

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:54.200
<v Speaker 1>has to come from inside. That's a great point. It

0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:57.040
<v Speaker 1>does have to come from whatever technique you use. But

0:47:57.120 --> 0:47:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I do find like business is a cure for a

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:02.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of that. Getting outside of your own body in

0:48:02.200 --> 0:48:04.279
<v Speaker 1>a way and being like very busy with something is

0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:08.719
<v Speaker 1>helpful in terms of just not ruminating on things. And

0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:11.400
<v Speaker 1>also there's a couple of good books that just remind

0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 1>you and give you, Like there's one called Finding Peace

0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 1>in a Frantic World. It's written by Mark Williams. It's

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:19.600
<v Speaker 1>like a beginner's guide for mindfulness, Like it just gives

0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:21.799
<v Speaker 1>you the basic steps when you're too much in your

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:26.400
<v Speaker 1>head to just remember that acts of service, helping someone else,

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:29.399
<v Speaker 1>focusing on someone else's issues, being like a good friend

0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:31.839
<v Speaker 1>to somebody else, or whoever's in your life, that will

0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:34.200
<v Speaker 1>always take you out of yourself, you know. And then

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:36.839
<v Speaker 1>also the Power of Now by kartl Just it all

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:41.800
<v Speaker 1>espouses the entire practice of just always knowing that those

0:48:41.840 --> 0:48:44.880
<v Speaker 1>thoughts are your ego, those thoughts are your negative voice

0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to drag you in. So saying no, get out

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:50.759
<v Speaker 1>is exactly the way to treat those thoughts, you know,

0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:53.440
<v Speaker 1>like there's no room for you here, and once you

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:56.480
<v Speaker 1>start implementing those things, you'll get out of this much

0:48:56.560 --> 0:49:00.160
<v Speaker 1>quicker than you think. And also to be forget being

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:03.200
<v Speaker 1>of yourself like this is normal, Like I want you

0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:06.840
<v Speaker 1>to be kind to yourself and know that like every

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:10.560
<v Speaker 1>human person feels these thoughts, you know what I mean.

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:14.080
<v Speaker 1>And I think that the struggle. I think everybody has

0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:17.839
<v Speaker 1>this struggle to to great some extent, like maybe for

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:20.160
<v Speaker 1>some people it's not a big struggle, but everybody has

0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:24.160
<v Speaker 1>those feelings of like afterwards going like judging yourself, and

0:49:24.239 --> 0:49:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I want for you that you forgive yourself. Yeah, you

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 1>know we all feel it sucks. Yeah, the thought of

0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:34.480
<v Speaker 1>people being unhappy with me is like the worst thing.

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:36.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. I don't know why. I don't

0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:39.520
<v Speaker 1>know how to be kind to myself and know that

0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:43.120
<v Speaker 1>nothing happened, But if somebody is unhappy with me, how

0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:45.600
<v Speaker 1>to like kind of get past that, if that makes

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:47.839
<v Speaker 1>any sense, like just being like, well that's what I said,

0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:50.480
<v Speaker 1>and I said what I said, you know, with me

0:49:50.520 --> 0:49:53.759
<v Speaker 1>not being offensive, but yeah, but also think about like

0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:55.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, think of yourself as a little girl or

0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:58.160
<v Speaker 1>do you think of yourself as as your daughter. Would

0:49:58.160 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 1>you ever want your daughter to feel that way, to

0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:02.720
<v Speaker 1>feel like she has to please everybody in this world?

0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:05.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's a fake construct that has been built

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:08.120
<v Speaker 1>up for women to behave in a certain way that

0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:10.560
<v Speaker 1>is people pleasing. And do you want to be that

0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:13.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of girl who fucking wants to be that? You know,

0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:16.080
<v Speaker 1>somebody who's making everybody happy? You know, then you're just

0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 1>a product of your society instead of being an original.

0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:21.600
<v Speaker 1>So focus on that and think about yourself as a

0:50:21.640 --> 0:50:23.160
<v Speaker 1>little girl, Like what would you do if it was

0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:25.680
<v Speaker 1>your daughter. You wouldn't allow You would be horrified for

0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:28.160
<v Speaker 1>her to feel this way. Right, It's not your job

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 1>to please everybody. It's your job a to please yourself

0:50:31.160 --> 0:50:33.839
<v Speaker 1>and make yourself and the people you love happy and

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:36.840
<v Speaker 1>make them feel safe and secure in your relationship. But

0:50:36.960 --> 0:50:39.520
<v Speaker 1>beyond that, you don't have an obligation to the world,

0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:42.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, and you should start try some you know,

0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:47.239
<v Speaker 1>try headspace. Headspace has all these like beginning courses about that,

0:50:47.480 --> 0:50:50.319
<v Speaker 1>about the voices in your head, about that dialogue, and

0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:52.719
<v Speaker 1>about focusing, you know, and if you just even put

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:55.040
<v Speaker 1>in five minutes a day of that, you just start

0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:57.520
<v Speaker 1>to create a different narrative in your head in a

0:50:57.520 --> 0:51:00.480
<v Speaker 1>different way that you're speaking to yourself, and that has

0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:03.920
<v Speaker 1>a domino effect. Yeah, you're a three dimensional person. You're

0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:06.080
<v Speaker 1>a human person too, and you have a right to

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:08.399
<v Speaker 1>exist in this world and believe certain things and say

0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:12.479
<v Speaker 1>whatever you want. And if people don't like you because

0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:15.040
<v Speaker 1>you said one thing the night before, then they're not

0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 1>really worth knowing. If they don't like you for the

0:51:18.520 --> 0:51:21.920
<v Speaker 1>three dimensional self that you are, like, if they really

0:51:22.440 --> 0:51:25.560
<v Speaker 1>are so affected by that, then holy sh it. And

0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I would also like to go on the record and

0:51:27.160 --> 0:51:29.719
<v Speaker 1>say that I am in Canada four months out of

0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:32.640
<v Speaker 1>the year and no Canadian has ever offended me, So

0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:36.759
<v Speaker 1>you also have that on your side. Thank you well.

0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:39.760
<v Speaker 1>And I just wanted to thank you Chelsea too. Besides

0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:42.839
<v Speaker 1>my mom, you're like a huge inspiration for just being

0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:46.440
<v Speaker 1>like an outspoken woman and still being mindful of other people,

0:51:46.560 --> 0:51:49.480
<v Speaker 1>but when somebody's trying to bring you down, just telling

0:51:49.520 --> 0:51:52.320
<v Speaker 1>them to get lost and just to be a strong woman.

0:51:52.320 --> 0:51:54.399
<v Speaker 1>And I just wanted to thank you for that. Well,

0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:56.480
<v Speaker 1>you're welcome, but you are. You're a strong woman too.

0:51:56.520 --> 0:51:58.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, we just have to tap into our reservoir

0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:01.160
<v Speaker 1>of strength and sometimes we don't strong, but you're strong.

0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Thank you appreciate that. Well, good luck with everything, and

0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:07.920
<v Speaker 1>please pick up those books. Okay, those two books, I

0:52:07.920 --> 0:52:10.720
<v Speaker 1>wrote them down. Great, great, I'm sure you can google

0:52:10.719 --> 0:52:13.640
<v Speaker 1>them and find them right away. Yeah, thank you so much.

0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. Thanks, take care you okay, speak to

0:52:17.239 --> 0:52:23.200
<v Speaker 1>you soon. Bye. Oh oh my god, I know, I know,

0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:27.280
<v Speaker 1>but you know something. When I experienced my first adult

0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:30.000
<v Speaker 1>self doubt or insecure phase, because I went for so

0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:32.960
<v Speaker 1>long without ever even thinking about what people thought about me,

0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:36.719
<v Speaker 1>just like you know, who cares like that arrogant attitude

0:52:36.719 --> 0:52:40.720
<v Speaker 1>almost and then going through my first bout of like, oh,

0:52:40.800 --> 0:52:45.359
<v Speaker 1>self examination, and then the self flagellation that goes with that,

0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:48.239
<v Speaker 1>where you go, oh wait a second, and then the

0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:51.600
<v Speaker 1>self consciousness that is coupled with that. It's such an

0:52:51.760 --> 0:52:55.719
<v Speaker 1>unpleasant and unwelcome feeling to be in his to be

0:52:55.800 --> 0:52:59.080
<v Speaker 1>worried all the time about something that other people are

0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:03.359
<v Speaker 1>not worrying about is not a great feeling. It can

0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:06.680
<v Speaker 1>be really debilitating, like just to get caught in that

0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:09.640
<v Speaker 1>and to like live to be just like so steeped

0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:12.799
<v Speaker 1>and worry. Yeah. Second, guessing yourself is not a fun

0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:15.879
<v Speaker 1>environment to be in, really not fun, not fun at all.

0:53:16.400 --> 0:53:19.759
<v Speaker 1>And I think also post pandemic, I kinda after my

0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:22.279
<v Speaker 1>first few interactions after that, I was like, Oh, we're

0:53:22.280 --> 0:53:24.240
<v Speaker 1>all just gonna be a little weird for a little while,

0:53:24.560 --> 0:53:26.959
<v Speaker 1>because I felt like I don't usually feel that way

0:53:27.239 --> 0:53:31.000
<v Speaker 1>that afterwards, like was I weird? Was I weird? And

0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I had engagement party for one of my cousins and

0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I felt like as I was talking to her sister

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:42.040
<v Speaker 1>and my other cousin, I'm like, I just keep laughing

0:53:42.080 --> 0:53:43.879
<v Speaker 1>at all her stories. I don't know what to say

0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:46.040
<v Speaker 1>back to her, like thank god, she's telling so many

0:53:46.040 --> 0:53:48.960
<v Speaker 1>funny stories. And then the next day she texted me

0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:50.959
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, I'm sorry if I was talking too much,

0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Like I was like, oh, wait, we're all just going

0:53:52.560 --> 0:53:54.960
<v Speaker 1>to feel like we're acting really strange for a while.

0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:57.160
<v Speaker 1>You know. It does feel strange, yeah, And I'm like

0:53:57.239 --> 0:54:01.400
<v Speaker 1>really quick to anger, like little things. I'm like, ohs

0:54:01.600 --> 0:54:05.400
<v Speaker 1>angry about this. It's nothing. It is a bit of

0:54:05.400 --> 0:54:11.120
<v Speaker 1>a roller coaster seeing the lower part of people's faces. Yeah,

0:54:10.239 --> 0:54:14.120
<v Speaker 1>it is. And I definitely can relate to a post

0:54:14.120 --> 0:54:17.360
<v Speaker 1>pandemic socializing where I was like ship what am I

0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 1>going to say now? Like, Okay, someone said something and

0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:23.680
<v Speaker 1>now it's my turn to return the tennis ball. And

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I mean, even my sister goes, what

0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:27.920
<v Speaker 1>is wrong with you? I go, I don't know what

0:54:28.000 --> 0:54:30.440
<v Speaker 1>to say to people anymore. And I've never been short

0:54:30.520 --> 0:54:33.359
<v Speaker 1>for words, so I can only imagine what somebody who's

0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:36.440
<v Speaker 1>more shy or less sure of themselves must be feeling.

0:54:36.480 --> 0:54:38.719
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, for sure, the pandemic meet us all a

0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:43.319
<v Speaker 1>bit of a hot mess. Yeah, definitely. Well, our next

0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:48.640
<v Speaker 1>question comes from back. She's twenty eight. She says, Dear Chelsea,

0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:51.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm in a pickle. I have an intense fear that

0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:54.759
<v Speaker 1>my partner of two years will ultimately lose interest in

0:54:54.840 --> 0:54:57.920
<v Speaker 1>me and fall out of love eventually. My opinion of

0:54:57.960 --> 0:55:00.720
<v Speaker 1>men isn't exactly high. I seem to box my partner

0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:03.120
<v Speaker 1>into the same category that most men have fallen into

0:55:03.160 --> 0:55:07.399
<v Speaker 1>in my life, ultimately fickle, selfish, and ignorant. My self

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:10.440
<v Speaker 1>esteem isn't the highest, and I'm riddled with anxiety that

0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:12.760
<v Speaker 1>he will find me less attractive as I get older,

0:55:12.960 --> 0:55:16.839
<v Speaker 1>or god forbid, bear his children. I'm constantly thinking of

0:55:16.920 --> 0:55:20.440
<v Speaker 1>self sabotaging the relationship as the fear of rejection is

0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:23.920
<v Speaker 1>so intense. How do I stay confident and address these

0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:29.200
<v Speaker 1>fears without projecting needy girlfriend vibes onto him love back. Well,

0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I would say that when you are living in fear

0:55:31.440 --> 0:55:35.680
<v Speaker 1>and based out of fear, you are going to perpetuate

0:55:35.760 --> 0:55:39.440
<v Speaker 1>that feeling and it can become a self fulfilling prophecy.

0:55:39.520 --> 0:55:42.640
<v Speaker 1>So you have to really work hard on getting yourself

0:55:42.680 --> 0:55:45.640
<v Speaker 1>out of that mindset because it's a waste of your time,

0:55:45.719 --> 0:55:47.880
<v Speaker 1>and it's a waste of your energy, and you're almost

0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:51.399
<v Speaker 1>working against yourself. So you've been with somebody for two

0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:54.200
<v Speaker 1>years and you have to start thinking. You know, every

0:55:54.239 --> 0:55:58.080
<v Speaker 1>negative thought comes with a positive counterpart. That's physics. Every

0:55:58.200 --> 0:56:01.600
<v Speaker 1>action has a reaction, and if you can start changing

0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:05.160
<v Speaker 1>that dialogue in your head, that's what you have to do. First,

0:56:05.280 --> 0:56:07.520
<v Speaker 1>you have to get in control of the fact that

0:56:07.760 --> 0:56:10.480
<v Speaker 1>you don't have control over the future. You have control

0:56:10.520 --> 0:56:13.400
<v Speaker 1>over how you behave You can't control what's going to

0:56:13.480 --> 0:56:15.360
<v Speaker 1>happen with your partner, if he's going to stay in

0:56:15.440 --> 0:56:17.480
<v Speaker 1>love with you, if he's going to remain in love

0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:20.360
<v Speaker 1>with you. You can only control how you conduct yourself.

0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:23.560
<v Speaker 1>So even if you don't believe it, right now that

0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:25.560
<v Speaker 1>you're worthy of all of that. You have to start

0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:28.920
<v Speaker 1>acting like it. You have to start believing that you

0:56:29.000 --> 0:56:30.719
<v Speaker 1>do have all of the things that you have that

0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you offer the relationship. You can't worry about aging. Everyone's aging.

0:56:34.680 --> 0:56:36.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, these are things that are happening to everybody.

0:56:36.960 --> 0:56:40.920
<v Speaker 1>So getting so hyper focused on this relationship and it

0:56:41.040 --> 0:56:45.239
<v Speaker 1>falling apart is a dangerous pattern of thought for you.

0:56:45.680 --> 0:56:47.799
<v Speaker 1>So there is a book that my friend told me

0:56:47.840 --> 0:56:51.840
<v Speaker 1>about once when she was feeling similar. It's called rejection Proof,

0:56:52.480 --> 0:56:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Rejection of Proof or rejection proof or something. I know

0:56:55.080 --> 0:56:56.799
<v Speaker 1>there's an umbrella on the cover because I have it

0:56:56.840 --> 0:56:58.920
<v Speaker 1>at my house, And of course I haven't read that

0:56:58.960 --> 0:57:03.120
<v Speaker 1>one yet, but I'll get to it. But you have

0:57:03.280 --> 0:57:07.640
<v Speaker 1>to really just start working on having a positive dialogue

0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:11.160
<v Speaker 1>with yourself. Immediately. Pick up as many books as you

0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:14.120
<v Speaker 1>can until you read something that strikes a chord within

0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:17.480
<v Speaker 1>you that you can like turn into a manifestation for yourself.

0:57:17.840 --> 0:57:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Because all of our wasted a time and energy is

0:57:20.320 --> 0:57:22.760
<v Speaker 1>spent on fear. And when you come from a place

0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:25.880
<v Speaker 1>of hope and positivity instead of fear, and you build

0:57:25.880 --> 0:57:29.520
<v Speaker 1>yourself up like to courage and bravery, then the fear

0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:31.800
<v Speaker 1>is eliminated, and it's down below and it's something that

0:57:31.840 --> 0:57:34.480
<v Speaker 1>you don't even recognize in yourself. But it's not gonna

0:57:34.520 --> 0:57:36.880
<v Speaker 1>happen overnight. You have to be an active participant in

0:57:36.920 --> 0:57:40.200
<v Speaker 1>getting yourself healthier. Oh, this is great advice. This is

0:57:40.240 --> 0:57:42.520
<v Speaker 1>great advice because it is hard to operate from a

0:57:42.600 --> 0:57:45.160
<v Speaker 1>place of fear and you can't control the future. You

0:57:45.200 --> 0:57:49.560
<v Speaker 1>have no say in how the future unfolds. I also

0:57:49.680 --> 0:57:52.960
<v Speaker 1>do think like if you're in a positive if you

0:57:52.960 --> 0:57:54.560
<v Speaker 1>really take a step back and you look at your

0:57:54.560 --> 0:57:57.720
<v Speaker 1>relationship and you go, actually, it's he's never given me

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<v Speaker 1>any indication that he's falling out of what we have

0:58:00.520 --> 0:58:03.840
<v Speaker 1>a very state. He would be very surprised to hear

0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:06.840
<v Speaker 1>that I am very worried about the future and these

0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:11.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of irrational thoughts. Like it's okay to have those

0:58:11.200 --> 0:58:15.520
<v Speaker 1>conversations with your partner, not dwell on them, but just

0:58:15.720 --> 0:58:20.720
<v Speaker 1>to honestly say, I'm having like irrational thoughts. Can I

0:58:20.760 --> 0:58:22.200
<v Speaker 1>just tell you what they are and then I can

0:58:22.200 --> 0:58:26.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe put them to rest. If your partner loves you,

0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:29.120
<v Speaker 1>which it sounds like you are in a really solid

0:58:29.200 --> 0:58:32.400
<v Speaker 1>relationship as long as you're not living and acting from

0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:35.040
<v Speaker 1>a place of fear all the time, if you're able

0:58:35.080 --> 0:58:37.400
<v Speaker 1>to talk about things that, like, you should be able

0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:40.120
<v Speaker 1>to talk about weird fears that you're having about the future,

0:58:40.360 --> 0:58:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Like you should be able to say that. I think

0:58:43.680 --> 0:58:45.880
<v Speaker 1>just before we got married and my husband was like,

0:58:46.200 --> 0:58:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I am worried that you're gonna that you're gonna like

0:58:48.800 --> 0:58:51.280
<v Speaker 1>have children and split because like I have some weird

0:58:51.320 --> 0:58:53.240
<v Speaker 1>family history and stuff. And he was like, I'm worried

0:58:53.240 --> 0:58:55.680
<v Speaker 1>that that's just like in your jeans maybe, And I

0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:59.880
<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't think it is, but I also don't,

0:59:00.520 --> 0:59:02.640
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think so. I think it's okay. And

0:59:02.680 --> 0:59:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I do think that if you're in a supportive relationship,

0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:08.600
<v Speaker 1>it's okay to like give voice to irrational fear once

0:59:08.600 --> 0:59:11.080
<v Speaker 1>in a while, and it's not it shouldn't be scary

0:59:11.160 --> 0:59:13.520
<v Speaker 1>for the other person because you do have to be

0:59:14.120 --> 0:59:16.440
<v Speaker 1>true to yourself. I think if you're like living in

0:59:16.480 --> 0:59:19.840
<v Speaker 1>that place all the time, then that's a different matter entirely.

0:59:19.920 --> 0:59:22.560
<v Speaker 1>But having a healthy dialogue with yourself is very important.

0:59:22.920 --> 0:59:26.840
<v Speaker 1>As Chelsea is saying, I think that's really really great advice. Yeah,

0:59:26.920 --> 0:59:28.720
<v Speaker 1>And I like what you're saying, you know, you that's

0:59:28.720 --> 0:59:31.320
<v Speaker 1>good advice, also talking about it voicing your fear. I

0:59:31.360 --> 0:59:33.320
<v Speaker 1>remember my girlfriend was going through a rough patch with

0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:36.840
<v Speaker 1>her boyfriend and she he he wanted a child and

0:59:36.920 --> 0:59:39.280
<v Speaker 1>she did it and that's why we're friends. She goes,

0:59:39.360 --> 0:59:41.080
<v Speaker 1>is it a deal breaker? But they've been together for

0:59:41.120 --> 0:59:43.720
<v Speaker 1>three or four years already, and he was like, I

0:59:43.760 --> 0:59:45.959
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I have to think about it. I didn't

0:59:46.000 --> 0:59:48.320
<v Speaker 1>realize this was so important to me. And she's like, well,

0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I need I need an answer. You need to tell me.

0:59:50.280 --> 0:59:52.120
<v Speaker 1>She's like, you have six weeks to figure it out,

0:59:52.400 --> 0:59:54.360
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, no, no, you cannot give someone

0:59:54.440 --> 0:59:56.680
<v Speaker 1>six weeks to figure this out. Like when you put

0:59:56.800 --> 0:59:59.120
<v Speaker 1>when you need a definitive answer on something, you're giving

0:59:59.200 --> 1:00:02.200
<v Speaker 1>something no, no space to breathe. You're not giving any

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<v Speaker 1>room for it to be okay. You know, because you

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<v Speaker 1>can't control the outcome. You can never control the outcome.

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<v Speaker 1>All you can control is how you conduct yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>your response to things. So I would definitely bring it

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<v Speaker 1>up with your partner. I'm sure him he'll probably say

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<v Speaker 1>something to you that will make you feel better and

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<v Speaker 1>better I mean, that will make you feel better about

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<v Speaker 1>the situation. But beyond that, it's your job to not

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<v Speaker 1>look to him to make you feel better all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's something you can bring up, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a burden for you to place on him, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's an inside conversation that you're having with yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>that needs to get stronger. Your sense of self needs

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<v Speaker 1>to get stronger. So hopefully you will be able to

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<v Speaker 1>have more open conversations because you know, nobody wants their

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<v Speaker 1>partner to feel like that. Who wants to see their

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<v Speaker 1>partner suffering like that or worried? Yeah, when you're two

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<v Speaker 1>years into a relationship, you don't have to pretend that

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<v Speaker 1>you love boxing or whatever it is, like whatever their

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<v Speaker 1>hobby is that you really can't stand, but you think

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<v Speaker 1>that you like. You pretend to like it so much

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<v Speaker 1>that you actual really think that you like it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the moment that your relationship is over, you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I funking really hated that. Actually that wasn't really fun

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<v Speaker 1>at all. But like, you're so deep into the relationship

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<v Speaker 1>now you should be able to like be your true self,

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<v Speaker 1>and part of that is allowing letting that person know

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<v Speaker 1>that you're going to like that. You're also trying to

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<v Speaker 1>create a better dialogue inside yourself and that you're aware

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<v Speaker 1>that it might seem irrational, but it's okay to say

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<v Speaker 1>it out loud occasionally sometimes when I this something that

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<v Speaker 1>I do, if I you know, sometimes like in this

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<v Speaker 1>business and this is so weird, but I am going

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<v Speaker 1>to say it. You know, you're like you're always reading

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<v Speaker 1>stories about like opportunities all around you, and everybody's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's he getting, what's she doing? What's this? Like? You sold? What?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god? And you get jealous. You get you

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<v Speaker 1>have like these eruptions of jealousy and even though you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing really well and this seems so crazy, like why

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<v Speaker 1>would you be jealous? Why would you be thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities that someone else is getting? Like how is that

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<v Speaker 1>relevant to you? But it happened in erupts and I

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<v Speaker 1>personally like to give it a voice. I like, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>take my husband and I'll go, oh, I feel so

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<v Speaker 1>jealous today and here's why. And he's like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>what is wrong with you? And I'm like, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to just say it out loud in order for me

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<v Speaker 1>to disperse it. The more I hold it, the more

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<v Speaker 1>real it gets, And that's very unhealthy. Sometimes I need

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<v Speaker 1>to say it out loud because I need to hear

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<v Speaker 1>what it sounds like in real life. And the moment

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<v Speaker 1>I hear myself say it, I go, oh, okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like he races. So I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>that's I like that. I like that, especially with somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that you can trust. I remember once telling my sister

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<v Speaker 1>years ago a friend of mine got a huge opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>and I was the one who had, you know, brought

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<v Speaker 1>her into stand up and introduced her to stand up

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<v Speaker 1>and encourage her to do it. And then she got

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<v Speaker 1>a big break before I did, and I had all

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<v Speaker 1>these feelings of envy and jealousy. And I was in

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<v Speaker 1>my twenties, and I called my sister and I told her,

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<v Speaker 1>I go, I feel so terrible. I'm so jealous. But

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<v Speaker 1>she's my friend and and she's like, it's how to

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<v Speaker 1>really fine? She's like, just tell something. You tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay. Just don't As long as you don't act

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<v Speaker 1>on the jealousy, you're almost expunging it by giving it

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<v Speaker 1>a voice. And I think that's great to remember. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have somebody in your life that you can trust

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<v Speaker 1>and always confide in, and that should be your person

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<v Speaker 1>that you can say the things that you're embarrassed to say,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes when you do, hear them out loud. Just

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<v Speaker 1>like Samantha just said, You're like, Okay, anything I'm operating on,

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, that's just too stupid. I was holding on

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<v Speaker 1>to that for too long. Okay, let's move forward. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>give yourself the room to be vulnerable. Right, Well, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break and we'll be back to wrap

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<v Speaker 1>up with Samantha B and Chelsea. Okay, and we're back. Great, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is fun. Yeah, good advice giving Samantha awesome high stakes.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. These are real, these are real lives.

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<v Speaker 1>These are like very relatable issues, very relatable. Well, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of relatable issues, sam do you have any advice you'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to ask from Chelsea? Here's a question and this

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<v Speaker 1>is like, okay, okay, this isn't going to sound like

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who knows me and anyone who works with me

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<v Speaker 1>will think that this question is insane because it's very

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<v Speaker 1>unlike me. I don't. You're very open about drug use,

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<v Speaker 1>very open about drug use, very open about all of that, pharmaceuticals,

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<v Speaker 1>all of that, and no one ever offers me drugs

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<v Speaker 1>of any kind and I don't know what it is

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<v Speaker 1>about me obviously like such a nerd and it's because

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<v Speaker 1>you're from look, Canada. Whatever one thing that I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to try after watching the whole documentary about fungi

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<v Speaker 1>on Netflix, which I loved, and I was like this,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that documentary about fungi, like fantastic Fungi

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<v Speaker 1>was so was almost like a spiritual experience for me

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<v Speaker 1>watching that. Should I try magic mushrooms? I think you

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<v Speaker 1>have to because it is so, because it's so I

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<v Speaker 1>took yesterday. I take a little chocolate square of magic

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<v Speaker 1>mushrooms almost every day, almost every day. I haven't taken

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<v Speaker 1>it today. I wish I had now that we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it, so I could just But there is there

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<v Speaker 1>is a mental clarity that you can reach. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to go bonkers and go dose yourself. But right

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<v Speaker 1>now there's so many in Canada. Everyone has mushrooms, they

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<v Speaker 1>have micro dose fifty milligrams, it's whatever you want. I

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<v Speaker 1>like it in chocolate because I just gives me a

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<v Speaker 1>better like upper. But there is a mental clarity that

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<v Speaker 1>isn't naturally available to me. It is an upper in

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<v Speaker 1>a way where you don't feel like you're on a drug,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like mushrooms. If you take silicide and you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do a proper dose or you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do a guided you know dose for healing purposes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a different situation, and I would encourage that for people

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<v Speaker 1>who are dealing with trauma anything that they want to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of tackle. But I think there is

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<v Speaker 1>really nothing to lose. You kind of just see everything

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<v Speaker 1>from a little bit more. It taps into a part

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<v Speaker 1>of your brain where you are able to be up,

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<v Speaker 1>you're clear minded, you're not you know, off your rocker,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're able to be productive and sound. So it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of adds to whatever you've already got going on naturally.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that because I've never done them before,

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<v Speaker 1>that I'll have a really because I've had like I've

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<v Speaker 1>taken I've taken up in the past and had such

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<v Speaker 1>bad experiences, do you think that I would be at

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<v Speaker 1>risk for having a really bad experience just from the

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<v Speaker 1>stress of like just from being kind of tense about

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<v Speaker 1>it but really wanting but really I feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>could be really beneficial to me, but I'm also terrified, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that the terror will cause me to

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<v Speaker 1>have a bad experience. I honestly think if you have

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of fear, you should just have the most

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<v Speaker 1>minimal possible amount you can have, like a half of

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<v Speaker 1>a micro dose to allay your fear, because once you

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<v Speaker 1>do that, you're gonna understand I'm not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelmed by this, and then your fear will abate, and

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<v Speaker 1>then by the time it does, you can introduce whatever

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<v Speaker 1>minuscule amount and it's almost an imperceptible feeling when it's

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<v Speaker 1>done right. When you don't have too much, like fifty

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<v Speaker 1>milligrams of psilocybin is not going to affect you in

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<v Speaker 1>any deleterious. You're not gonna lose it, You're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get overwhelmed. You're just gonna have a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a feeling of like, oh, oh, everything is brighter and

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<v Speaker 1>clearer and I am my mind is clear. And it

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<v Speaker 1>adds to whatever you're already working with. You know, on

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<v Speaker 1>on a brain mechanical level, and there are so many

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<v Speaker 1>parts of our brain that we're not accessing, and when

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<v Speaker 1>you do something like that, you are accessing a part

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<v Speaker 1>of your brain and you feel it. You're like, oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>so I just yeah, the fear is definitely something to

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<v Speaker 1>be considered, but you just even take it easier because

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to remember, this isn't a drug. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to get sucked up. You're just you're just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to like enhance. It's an enhancer. We talked about

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<v Speaker 1>it at dinner last night, and we're talking to just

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<v Speaker 1>about the efects of it and how people don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>how it enhances almost every experience, a work experience, a

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<v Speaker 1>play experience, or even a family experience. Oh great, because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, like I'm not up for seeing like elves

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<v Speaker 1>running under the sofa, Like I don't not really, that's

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<v Speaker 1>how the experience I'm looking for. It was just like

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<v Speaker 1>what does this mean? Like what could this unlock inside? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great way to look at it. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>is that is that a possibility? And how long will

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<v Speaker 1>it last? And will I be normal in front of

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<v Speaker 1>my children? So maybe I'll do it like by myself. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't last forever, don't worry. It's like a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of hours maybe, And you know, and again, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like you're going to have to be like tripping in

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<v Speaker 1>a room in the dark, like it's not like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You just go about your business like you would any

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<v Speaker 1>other day. You know, try it on a day where

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to do a lot, so that you're

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<v Speaker 1>not like worried about that. But just to create the

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<v Speaker 1>confidence in your psyche that you're okay and you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to freak out. Is to do it as minimally

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<v Speaker 1>as possible and so that you could kind of understand

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<v Speaker 1>it better. I love this. This is good advice. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to talk that through. Okay, Like, talk to

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<v Speaker 1>me next week when I'm like playing the mandolin at

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<v Speaker 1>a renaissance fair. I'm like, I gave it all up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll probably just mail you some magic mushrooms from from

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<v Speaker 1>some other name to another name, but they'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>you somehow. We'll make you. We'll find our way, just

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<v Speaker 1>like a Magellan. Okay, you calmed me down. I really do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would be so. I feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>would be good for me because I am like pretty

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<v Speaker 1>uptight and kind of a control freak in my own home,

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<v Speaker 1>like and walking around sorting laundry. It's boring. I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to try a new version of myself in a

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<v Speaker 1>minor way. It would be nice to let go a

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<v Speaker 1>little awesome. I'm a love drug question. So yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>plus every by the way, everyone is doing it, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, and everyone's loving it like it's

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<v Speaker 1>getting rave reviews. So this is the moment. This is

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<v Speaker 1>my time. So Chelsea, one question about that. I am

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<v Speaker 1>also a person who has never done magic mushrooms, but

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<v Speaker 1>people often recommend doing them in nature. Do you think,

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<v Speaker 1>like even from microdos, would you say, like head out

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<v Speaker 1>doors or do you always Okay, yeah, I mean you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I I could do it inside too, but like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it enhances everything and the colors of the leaves on

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<v Speaker 1>the trees, the nature that you're seeing. Yeah, it enhance.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just an enhance her. So to understand it better

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<v Speaker 1>is to be in nature, you know, because then you

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<v Speaker 1>really have a connection and you realize like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is you understand how kind of small

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<v Speaker 1>you are and how amazing everything is. Like that we're

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<v Speaker 1>all sitting here, you know, functioning. It's just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like it's got that vibe to it too, where you're

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<v Speaker 1>just really happy and grateful that you get to be

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<v Speaker 1>like here doing your thing. I love this. Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's great, that's cool. Well, Sam will do mushrooms together. Okay, okay, perfect, awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>Well where can everyone find you? She's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the wood doing mushrooms with her podcast. Full East

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<v Speaker 1>is the podcast I'm going to be a guest on

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<v Speaker 1>as well, probably the very same week that you're a

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<v Speaker 1>guest on mine. We released on Tuesdays. When when do

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<v Speaker 1>you release? Release on Thursdays? Thursday's Tuesday, Thursday. We do

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<v Speaker 1>a full release on Thursday, and then Full Frontal with

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<v Speaker 1>Samantha b is in its seventh season yep, Thursdays at

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<v Speaker 1>seven pm on TBS. Oh god, thank you so much, Samantha.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a wonderful morning with you. I mean, we've

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<v Speaker 1>spent more time together probably that I've spent with anyone

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<v Speaker 1>other than my boyfriend this year, and we just met,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're off to a really great start. I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for talking me through this and

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<v Speaker 1>for oh my god for bringing me on. That was

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<v Speaker 1>like emotional. I know it can get emotional. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>loved it. I want all the people who ask questions

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<v Speaker 1>to take your advice and run with it anyway. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much. It was great to have a great

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<v Speaker 1>day you too. Bye bye. Bye, And if you'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to get advice from Chelsea and one of her guests,

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<v Speaker 1>please write into Dear Chelsea Project at gmail dot com.