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Speaker 1: welcome in the oa's interesting, contentious, antagonistic. Mike Silver on

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Speaker 1: the Niners is joining us in ten minutes. So generally speaking,

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Speaker 1: California teams are wealthy in the context of comparing them

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Speaker 1: to other sports franchis. Stan Cronky owns the Rams. He's

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Speaker 1: the first or second richest NFL owner. The Dodgers have

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Speaker 1: the biggest payroll in baseball, could be fifty million annually,

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Speaker 1: more than any other team. But there are exceptions. Robert

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Speaker 1: Sarver was forced to sell the Phoenix Suns. Do you

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Speaker 1: know who now is the poorest NBA owner? Take a second,

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Speaker 1: Genie Bus Lakers the poorest NBA owner. Now, this has

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Speaker 1: been one of my concerns all along. It's gone from

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Speaker 1: a global brand to a national brand to now the

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Speaker 1: Lakers are just an LA brand. The truth is they're

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Speaker 1: not even the most popular NBA team in terms of

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Speaker 1: is friends and family. It is an incredibly insular brand

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Speaker 1: now instead of creative and innovative and progressive. It's not

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Speaker 1: the most popular basketball brand in the state of California.

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Speaker 1: The Warriors are. In fact, I would argue it's not

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Speaker 1: the most popular sports brand in Los Angeles. The Dodgers are.

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Speaker 1: The Dodgers draw ten thousand more fans per game than

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Speaker 1: the second best attendance team in Major League Baseball, which

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Speaker 1: I think is the Yankees. So when stand cronky or

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Speaker 1: wealthier owners, the Dodgers can go past a tax threshold

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Speaker 1: because they just want to win, to huge advantage the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: They just don't have the net worth as an ownership group.

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Speaker 1: And this is something I've harped on for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Lebron has an international brand. His brand right now is

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Speaker 1: better perceived than the Lakers brand. Now he left the Cavaliers,

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Speaker 1: they have no brand outside of Ohio. But isn't that

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Speaker 1: interesting that in Los Angeles. All things considered, the Dodger

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Speaker 1: the richest. Genie Buss smallest net worth among all NBA owners.

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Speaker 1: This feels like a corner store. And it was the

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Speaker 1: world's biggest basketball brand. Fifteen twenty years ago, the Celtics

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Speaker 1: still move a television rating, lots of young ascending players.

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Speaker 1: Go look at the Lakers last ten years. Take out

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Speaker 1: Take out the bubble year last ten years. What are

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Speaker 1: the Lakers? A bottom five win percentage NBA franchise. I

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Speaker 1: think there are people in Los Angeles I think I'm

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Speaker 1: picking on them. I'm not, but they just literally don't

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay. After another loss on Monday Night Football that

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Speaker 1: Listen saysn't college football. The better you are the Worshire

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes has never repeated as a Super Bowl champion.

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Speaker 1: Sean McVeagh is a great recruiter, and Stan Cronky is

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Speaker 1: Patricia's your offensive coordinator. Bill Belichick. Culture over paycheck. Give

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Speaker 1: He and he has some offensive background. He played offense

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Speaker 1: I will say this Colin. So he brought Mike Lafloor

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Speaker 1: Mike Lafloor and Mike McDaniel were there. Kyle was going

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Speaker 1: to let him take one. Now, normally, when you have

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Speaker 1: Purdy yet. I did see him go on the road.

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Speaker 1: I did see him deal with a loud crowd in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: I did see him play hurt, you know, on a

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Speaker 1: short week. So all that's really you know, uplifting. What

429
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Speaker 1: I what I need to see decks from Purdy is

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Speaker 1: you're down fourteen points in the fourth quarter or you are,

431
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Speaker 1: you need to really do something special with the ball,

432
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Speaker 1: you know, on a deep out or something, and that

433
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: the game hinges on that and will he you know,

434
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: no quarterbacks perfect. And you know, look, Jimmy Garoppolo was

435
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: playing at a pretty high level. If Jimmy Garoppolo got

436
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Speaker 1: down by fourteen points in the playoffs this year, had

437
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Speaker 1: he not got hurt and then threw a pick, you

438
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: know what would have happened. The world would to say,

439
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: he's not good enough. You can only go so far

440
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: with him. He can't with a big one. It's very

441
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Speaker 1: possible that that could happen to brock Purty. And given

442
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: where we are in the season, it's possible that could

443
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Speaker 1: happen in Philadelphia or in the super Bowl, or you know,

444
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: when Tom Brady beats Dallas in the playoffs and that

445
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: comes back to Levi's and rips out their souls and

446
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: you know whatever, it is. Well, the greatest come from

447
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Speaker 1: behind quarterback ever, statistically as Patrick Mahomes, and he's the

448
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: best quarterback. The great quarterbacks can do two things. Score

449
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: is irrelevant. Even with Aaron Rodgers top ten quarterback ever,

450
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: score is relevant, He's not as good from behind. Mahomes

451
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Speaker 1: wins over fifty five percent of the games he's trailed

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Speaker 1: by ten points. That's historically makes no sense. The second

453
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Speaker 1: thing great quarterbacks do is beat great teams. Two is

454
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Speaker 1: a great example. Five and oh against non playoff teams,

455
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: dragged against three playoff teams. Now he'll go home against

456
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: Green Bay and he'll win a game because they probably

457
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Speaker 1: won't make the playoffs. So I think with pretty your

458
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: concerns are very real. He's playing with a lead and

459
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Speaker 1: he's beating men. So as when you get to the playoffs,

460
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Speaker 1: you're at Philadelphia, you trail's. I remember saying this about

461
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield when he had Nick Chubb and

462
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: throwing on second and four, Baker Mayfield was really effective,

463
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: sure trailing totally different cornerback. And like, it's interesting talking

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Speaker 1: about the forty nine ers. I'm really torn because I

465
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Speaker 1: know how good they are and I see how they're rolling,

466
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Speaker 1: and I've gotten healthier and I feel that vibe, and

467
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Speaker 1: I look at the NFC and I'm thinking they should

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Speaker 1: win that conference. In my opinion, not a given, but

469
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Speaker 1: that's there. But then if you really break it down,

470
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Speaker 1: they've beaten two teams that currently have winning records. That's

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins, who are eight and six on the charts,

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Speaker 1: who were eight and six, beat the Seahawks who are

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Speaker 1: seven and seven twice They've lost to one team that

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Speaker 1: currently has a wedding record, that's the Kansas City Chiefs,

475
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Speaker 1: and it was not close. They got rolled. Now McCaffrey

476
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Speaker 1: had just gotten there. They had some health issues. Tre

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00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: Various Ward wasn't right, but that was not a if

478
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Speaker 1: that was a Super Bowl preview. We hope it wasn't

479
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: because the Chiefs were way better that day. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure I don't get two ahead

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Speaker 1: of myself on it. But I saw your tweet the

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Speaker 1: other night when I was working in Seattle with Rock

483
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Speaker 1: Ferdie and the you know, and I'm thinking, yeah, he might.

484
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Speaker 1: Now I think the counterpoint to that would be, even

485
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Speaker 1: if Brock Furdie gets to the Super Bowl, get ready

486
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Speaker 1: for Purdie versus Burrow, Purdie versus Olden Birdie versus Mahomes,

487
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: Bertie versus Lomar, Like, it's probably gonna be one of

488
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Speaker 1: those like WHOA doesn't meat, he can't win that team. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Mike Silver and I are doing a lot of Niners talk.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting, let's go to Robert Salo and the Jets

491
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Speaker 1: because of your relationship with him and the fact that

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Speaker 1: he listens to my show. So I want to say

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Speaker 1: something nice. So I've said this before. You don't have

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Speaker 1: to win games for me to think you are a

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Speaker 1: good coach. I have to see your footprint on the team.

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00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: Very early with Sean McDermott, the defense got good by

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Speaker 1: year two without a lot without the players he has

498
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: now Sean McVay year one, Lincoln Riley usc can't fix everything.

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Speaker 1: Goff went from bost to he may make a Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl where Mike McDaniel and Robert sala have convinced me

501
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Speaker 1: the offense for the Dolphins may be the most creative

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Speaker 1: in the league. And Salah's fingerprints are all over that defense.

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Speaker 1: It is a e has really done an amazing job.

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00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: And some of that is you know, Sauce Gardner and

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Speaker 1: Quentin Williams. I mean, some of these are just great players.

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Speaker 1: But when I look at them, that's why I know

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Speaker 1: Robert Solder can coach. He because I do think there

508
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: are a lot of things that are out of your control.

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00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: Look at mcvaan. The offensive line for the Rams this year,

510
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do. They've had fourteen different offensive lines.

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Speaker 1: It's they were uniquely healthy last year, they're uniquely unhealthy

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Speaker 1: this year. So but it does raise something interesting with

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Speaker 1: Sala is that whereas Daniel Jones, I don't see anything special.

514
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's a little too cowboy for me, Johnny Manziel,

515
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: but you can see the arm like you can see

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Speaker 1: the feat. The question becomes because I think Salo is

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Speaker 1: in no danger. I think that I think everybody gets

518
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Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing. But but but we said

519
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Speaker 1: this earlier. The only thing worse than making a mistake

520
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: on a quarterback in the first round is doubling down

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Speaker 1: on it. How long do you give Zach Wilson because

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Speaker 1: Mike White, my eyes tell me today is a better

523
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Speaker 1: NFL quarterback. And I think that's why they made the move. Right,

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Speaker 1: You don't want to make that move. Franchise building wise,

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Speaker 1: you just don't want to make that move, even if

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Speaker 1: it's I will put the young guy out for a

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00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: little bit. He can sit and watch and gather himself.

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00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: That's not usually awesome, Like Patrick Mahomes didn't gather himself. Now,

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Speaker 1: he was great from the start, but you know too,

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Speaker 1: I had to sit and watch and gather himself. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's what fixed two. I think it was

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel. I know it was Mike McDaniel coming in

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Speaker 1: and giving him love and trading for Tyreek Hill and

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Speaker 1: you know, creating talking about the scheme that you that

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Speaker 1: you mentioned being so creative. But I just, you know,

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Speaker 1: I do believe that they're at a point. And remember

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Speaker 1: they're not at full strength. They've had some pretty brutal injuries,

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Speaker 1: you know, starting with Beckton who you know, we don't

539
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Speaker 1: know how big that was, but you know, other injuries

540
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: on the line, Elijahbea Tucker, the running back Breeze Hall,

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Speaker 1: who had looked so good. So they've they've had some

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Speaker 1: impact injuries. I think that team is good enough now

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Speaker 1: that you can't afford to play a guy that you

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Speaker 1: hope is gonna you know, the franchise quarterback. And the

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Speaker 1: other thing is the locker room. You know, at some

546
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Speaker 1: point the players know and that's not okay, Like you

547
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: think Dwayne Brown, who's there at the end of his career,

548
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Speaker 1: or some of these guys want to hear that like, well,

549
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: maybe in a couple of years this will be great

550
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: for the Jets. They're like, dude, I'm out there, you know,

551
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: trying to win right now. And point Mike White's better

552
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: right now. And the other thing is I think you

553
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: know it's New York. Everything's amplified. There were rumblings that

554
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: in the locker room it wasn't going great with Zach Wilson.

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00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: You saw some players act out after that game, that

556
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: last one he started before now and then Zach Wilson

557
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: said something really stupid and there was a layup. He

558
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: missed a layup at the microphone. Right. He's a very

559
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: young guy. I don't I shudder to think how I

560
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: would have been on the microphone at that age. But

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00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,959
Speaker 1: you know, a layup is hey, Zach, do you think

562
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Speaker 1: do you feel like you let your teammates down in

563
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: this game? And you go, yeah, of course it starts

564
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Speaker 1: with me. I'm the quarterback. I need to play better.

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00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: We all need to play better. We're a team. But

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Speaker 1: I I'm the quarterback. I need to lead. I need

567
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Speaker 1: to you know, play better than I did today. That's

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Speaker 1: a layup. And when you when your answer is like,

569
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Speaker 1: not not me. If you were already struggling in the

570
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: locker room, that hurts you. Sala saw that put it

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Speaker 1: all together and was like, okay, we can't you know,

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00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: no more playtime we're trying to win a game now,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think Robert Sala looks at Mike White.

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Speaker 1: I haven't had this conversation with him, but I don't

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Speaker 1: believe he looks at Mike White and goes, hey, that's

576
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: my you know, that's my Joe Bontana. I think he's

577
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: just like this guy's better now. And if we blew

578
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: that pick, it's gonna be hard to survive it. But

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have to figure that out after the season

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00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: or maybe while mature and get better. And you're right,

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Speaker 1: you do see you know, we haven't seen it as

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00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: much with Lance, but we've barely seen Lance. We've seen

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Speaker 1: it with Trevor Lawrence now and we kind of you know, Eddie,

584
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: Eddie had a rough, very very rough first year. Mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: We thought we saw something and then he got Patricia judged,

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00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: which is a whole other, you know, situation, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Davis Mills, we've seen a little and that's not going great.

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00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: Justin Fields. I gotta tell you he may not be perfect.

589
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 1: And all that I've seen something, I've seen something. Yeah,

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00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: they're you know what I worry about. Jalen Hurts, Hurt

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Speaker 1: Lamar hurt. Yeah, Trey Lance got hurt running. Now Matt

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Speaker 1: Stafford's also hurt. Josh Allen would be hurt, but he's

593
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Speaker 1: six six, two sixty is yeah. So I do worry

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Speaker 1: that these hyper athletic quarterbacks who can all throw you

595
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: know many Justin Fields doesn't have a good old line,

596
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: Lamar doesn't have good receiving cores. A Kyler may not

597
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: have a good coach. That when you're hyper athletic. By

598
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: the way, Josh Allen doesn't have a consistent run gamer

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Speaker 1: offensive line. That when you're hyper athletic and things aren't

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00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 1: going well high school and college, your makeup is I'm out,

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Speaker 1: I'm moving. So I don't think Justin Fields would run

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Speaker 1: nearly as much if he had legitimate receivers in an

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Speaker 1: old line right, and the threat of it would make

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00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: it even easier for him to have open guys. I

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Speaker 1: think the other point is over time, Like, I'm not

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Speaker 1: concerned about Josh Allen right now getting hurt as much

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Speaker 1: as I am, but over you know, Cam Newton had

608
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: a short career. You know, Ben Roethlisberger had to change

609
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: because it built up, you know, all those extending plays

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Speaker 1: he had to get rid of. The ball, you know,

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00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: much more quickly toward the end. But you know, you

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Speaker 1: look at how Cam Newton's career went, and you're like,

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Speaker 1: he was the MVP, was at a high level. Nobody

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Speaker 1: wanted to tackle him. He's so big an athletic. But

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00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: when it started to go, it went. And so I

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Speaker 1: just if I'm the Bills, I'm like, Okay, Josh, when

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Speaker 1: we need you to do one of those things to

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Speaker 1: win an important game or do something, I get it.

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Speaker 1: But if my number one priority with Josh Allen would

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Speaker 1: be figure out a way to not rely on that,

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Speaker 1: because over time you just don't want it. Yeah, Big

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Speaker 1: Ben and Cam Newton, you don't feel those And you know,

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Speaker 1: it's almost like Steve Young had a short career, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, And I covered that, and Steve Young's impulse

625
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: was get out and go Now. Mike Shanahan came in

626
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: as the offensive coordinator and really crafted a guy who

627
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: would sit back and read more. And he threw six

628
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: touchdowns to the Super Bowl and you know whatever. But

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Speaker 1: you know, he had a short career too, So I

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Speaker 1: think it doesn't mean by the way the Bills would

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Speaker 1: take a short career of what they have now He's incredible,

632
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: but you'd rather have it be longer. This week's gold

633
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Speaker 1: Medal performance goes to a team who will see a

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Speaker 1: quick turnaround next year. Despite being eliminated from the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: So I've always said, you'll your value is ultimately decided

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Speaker 1: argument that the Raiders can move off him because they've

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Speaker 1: got some holes. And I think you can get a

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Speaker 1: don't know. But I also think Derek would have a

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Speaker 1: very dynamic market. I think if you put him in

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Speaker 1: New York with that defense and Bruce Hall. Hello, that's

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Speaker 1: a playoff team. So it's interesting you can be two

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Speaker 1: things at once. Have an excellent market and the Raiders

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Speaker 1: need to rebuild. He's not a dead cap hit and

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Speaker 1: Will Levis has a big arm. Josh McDaniels, Look what

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Speaker 1: he did to Mac Jones year one. Look what's happened

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Speaker 1: to him since he left? What do you make of

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Speaker 1: car the Raiders, because I can see Mike them saying

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Speaker 1: we like him, but if we can get a second

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Speaker 1: one and a second three, because I think they already

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Speaker 1: have two five, multiple sixes. What do you make of

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Speaker 1: the Raiders situation? Yeah, that's a great point, and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to see them in a couple of weeks and

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Speaker 1: I'll have a stronger opinion. But you know, I think

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Speaker 1: here's why that makes sense. Number one, the owner was

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Speaker 1: the owner had the wandering eye for years on car

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Speaker 1: wander Russell Wilson, you know he was. He was just

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Speaker 1: kind of like, hey, can we get a superstar for

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Speaker 1: the move to Vegas. I think they paid enough guys

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Speaker 1: around him that you could benefit from a situation where

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Speaker 1: your quarterback is on a rookie deal at first, right,

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Speaker 1: because you paid Waller, you paid Renfro, you paid Davante. Now,

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Speaker 1: DeVante came there because of Derek Carr, so you got

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Speaker 1: to deal with the politics of that. But you paid

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Speaker 1: Crosby as you should. You know, you paid Chandler Jones.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you wish you hadn't, although you do now after

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Speaker 1: that one play. But yeah, so I think that's it.

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Speaker 1: And I do think Derek Carr would have a big market.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Garoppolo as a bridge quarterback would

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Speaker 1: be on the table for Josh, depending on how he

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Speaker 1: feels about him. I think this is what I would

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Speaker 1: say about Derek Carr. He's very intelligent. You know, you

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Speaker 1: could definitely win with him. He might. He's not going

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Speaker 1: to elevate you the way Mahomes does. Who can. But

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Speaker 1: the sneaky thing about Derek Carr that people don't really

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Speaker 1: talk about is his clutch performance metrics are And maybe

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Speaker 1: I know this more because I covered a lot of

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Speaker 1: Raider games when he was in Oakland. He's got a

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Speaker 1: lot of come from behind victories, clutch wins fourth quarters,

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Speaker 1: like it's not an anomaly. His numbers are very, very

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Speaker 1: close to the top since he's been in the league,

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Speaker 1: and I have to go look that up again. There's

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Speaker 1: different ways to measure it. But he's a guy who

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Speaker 1: can take you back when you're down at the end

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Speaker 1: and lead that game winning drives. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: he'd have a real market. You know, some new guys

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Speaker 1: are going to come to the league, and Jimmy's out there,

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Speaker 1: but really it's not like we have this crazy abundance

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Speaker 1: of you know, frontline quarterbacks, and he would probably be

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Speaker 1: the most attractive free agent on the market other than

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Speaker 1: you know, in recent years, other than Russell who was

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Speaker 1: kind of an anomaly, right and Brady who was an anomaly,

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Speaker 1: he'd probably be the guy that got the most hit. Well.

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Speaker 1: This year, Kirk Cousins has seven fourth quarter wins like

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Speaker 1: come from behind? Why because when you get to year

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Speaker 1: I've seen every defense. Yeah, Derek Carr and Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: have trailed in a lot of games late. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know situation. Car's numbers have always it's weird, like if

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Speaker 1: you look back, even when they're not good, the teams

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Speaker 1: behind in the fourth quarter. Kind of wish I had

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Speaker 1: the numbers in front of me. But yeah, no, you're right,

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Speaker 1: and he's in a stage where he's seen it and

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Speaker 1: he's you know, nobody is going to ever say Derek

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Speaker 1: Carr doesn't process it fast, or Derek Carr doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a grasp of the game. And also, you know, he

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Speaker 1: talked about franchise quarterbacks like he's gonna take it really seriously.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna He's not gonna screw Yeah, So I

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Speaker 1: thought Joe Douglass, I think his last two drafts for

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Speaker 1: the Jets have been really strong. Really like Breece Hall, Star,

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Speaker 1: Gardner Star, a couple of these wide receivers really special. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Elijah Vera Tucker a really good pick. Yeah, best offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman us he's had eight years, ten years. If they

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Speaker 1: have another good draft with Derek Carr and that division,

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Speaker 1: that to me is a team that goes toe to

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Speaker 1: toe with Buffalo. I really believe that because Joe Douglas

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Speaker 1: is the secret sauce here. Those last two drafts. That

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Speaker 1: draft last year for the Jets, that was one of

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Speaker 1: the best. I think I said it at the time.

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Speaker 1: I don't sure I've ever seen a team first four

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Speaker 1: picks all be starters and all potentially high end starters.

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Speaker 1: So the Giants are a rebuild. I mean they're on

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Speaker 1: line or receiving Corra mess. Like the Jets have to

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Speaker 1: clean up their own line and get the quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the in the free agent market. But the Jets have

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Speaker 1: a lot of stars they're not paying anything to yet

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Speaker 1: nothing and they have like a three year runaway on them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Jets I mean that division is going to be

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Speaker 1: tough because I think McDaniel is here to stay as

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Speaker 1: a force, and I know the Bills are set up.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Patriots are particularly set up to thrive,

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Speaker 1: you know, when you pride yourself on your players always

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Speaker 1: to Bill, he earned that. They practice those things and

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Speaker 1: they go over arcane situation. So I know Belichick's head

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Speaker 1: has to be exploding, but man, that's probably if they

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Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs, that may well be the reason,

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Speaker 1: right right. And it was insane and two players did

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Speaker 1: something insane and honestly builded something kind of weird by

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Speaker 1: hauling a draw play in the first place and then

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Speaker 1: saying I didn't think my quarter I could throw it

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Speaker 1: that far then take an right. I mean, I just

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Speaker 1: don't see. Do you really think Robody Stevens is going

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Speaker 1: to score on a draw from your own thirty or

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Speaker 1: whatever or forty though? So okay, he's not going to score.

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Speaker 1: You've got time for one play, are you what else

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Speaker 1: could happen. I could fubble and they could scoop and score.

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Speaker 1: That's not good. He could get concussed. That's probably bad.

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Speaker 1: So one of your other players could get hurt. Not good.

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Speaker 1: He could ridiculously lateral it to a guy. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: kind of not good. That guy could then run backwards

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Speaker 1: like twelve yards and then throw across his body to

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Speaker 1: and then Chandler Jones could catch that ball in stride

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Speaker 1: and as I say in my ballet column that hasn't

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Speaker 1: then proceeds in the end zone and win the game.

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Speaker 1: So that on Bill too. But yeah, the Jets are

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Speaker 1: in a good spot and the Giants, I don't know how.

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Speaker 1: I know Brian dave Ball should be at the very

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Speaker 1: one of the very top guys in the head coaching

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Speaker 1: cycle because he did this in Baltimore most years too.

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Speaker 1: And he's had injuries and you look at their stats,

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I mean the Giants literally can play one

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Speaker 1: way to win, can never get a can't forget a

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Speaker 1: think Daniel Jones is it. I didn't like him in college.

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Speaker 1: I don't like him in the pros. He's a backup.

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Speaker 1: He's a really good backup. Yeah, I mean he's like

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Speaker 1: time winning, you know, three to four games. Maybe Dave

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Speaker 1: All give him a little bump and let's say when

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Speaker 1: people in that building and I was like, I don't understand,

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Speaker 1: and they were like, we don't really understand either, man,

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Speaker 1: Like this is beyond what we thought could happen. So

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Speaker 1: give that those players and those coaches a lot of credit.

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Speaker 1: And Joe Shane, I mean, whatever they did, they're eight

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Speaker 1: five and one and they're probably gonna make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And if they don't, oh no, I mean still a

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Speaker 1: success story. It's a weapons league's quarterback weapons league. They

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Speaker 1: have a backup and no weapons and they may make

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Speaker 1: the playoff. It's insane. They have qu I mean, bless them,

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Speaker 1: you know, a revived si Quan And yeah, and like

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Speaker 1: I again, Martindale, like you look at that defense. Okay,

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Speaker 1: well Timodeaux, we saw what he can do in this

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Speaker 1: last game. Obviously, Letter Williams is a good player. M

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Speaker 1: and you know, they got some guys like I kind

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Speaker 1: of know who they are. They're pretty good. But like

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Speaker 1: ask a fan, like if you and I were sitting

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Speaker 1: having a burger at your awesome place in Hermosa and

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Speaker 1: someone walked in and they were like, oh hey, Colin,

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Speaker 1: I love your show. And we got into a conversation

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Speaker 1: with him or her and we said, hey, by the way,

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Speaker 1: you follow football, Yeah, I follow you play fast. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of the New York Giants? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Could you name four players on that defense?

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Speaker 1: And if you're if you're correct, we will give you

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Speaker 1: free beer at this beer hall for life. I think

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Speaker 1: they would say I cannot. Let's right, No, it's yeah,

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Speaker 1: coach of the year day Ball's top three. And I

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Speaker 1: think Shanahan has to be in that conversation with three quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely Shanahan because he's winning more. Also, the guy at Minnesota, yes, situationally,

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Speaker 1: can't can't win eight one possession games or ten one

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Speaker 1: possession game. I defended Kevin O'Connell when people were freaking

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Speaker 1: out before the greatest comeback in NFL history last week.

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Speaker 1: I said, they said they have a negative point differential.

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Speaker 1: They're the worst ten and three team effort. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: that's amazing that they're ten and three. That's a testament

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Speaker 1: to Kevin O'Connell and those players. If they're you know,

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Speaker 1: you should be celebrating them. And then yeah, of course

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Speaker 1: Nick Surrianti is going to get attention when you're thirteen

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Speaker 1: or one. You know it's hard not to. But we

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Speaker 1: should ask Michael Parson about that, because I know he

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Speaker 1: wasn't a fan of Jailor Hurts as MVP. He might

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Speaker 1: not love the nixt Seriandi Coach of the Year campaign either.

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Speaker 1: Mike Silver, this has been absolutely great. Can I read

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Speaker 1: you one? I just got a text and I checked

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Speaker 1: it while we're on the air, because I saw the

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Speaker 1: initials about twenty minutes ago, and the text is from

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Speaker 1: Robert Sala and it says Cowherd to give a response

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Speaker 1: to my message question mark. So he was following up

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to text him back now and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say yes he did, and it will be on

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Speaker 1: this podcast, and like the rest of America, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: the head coach of the Jets will be tuning in

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Speaker 1: and with great with great interest. No, I'm not, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I've said ten times on the air. I can see

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Speaker 1: his impact all over that team. But when he when

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Speaker 1: he pushes back on the you know, listen, I don't

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Speaker 1: mind being ripped. I get ripped and the critics don't

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Speaker 1: like me fan whatever I like, I'm I get it,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's unfair because Robert benched him. I

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Speaker 1: didn't bend Zach Wilson Robert and he kissed Robert off

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Speaker 1: in a press conference, not me. You didn't draft him,

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Speaker 1: you didn't bend him. You did not. Yeah, you did

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Speaker 1: not bothered to his press conference. But look, man, now

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Speaker 1: I'm all about the quarterback revival story you mentioned j

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, Geno Smith, Jimmy this year. Who saw that coming?

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson TUA like it's it's there. Man. Maybe there's

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Speaker 1: a quarterback revival story for Zach Wilson, and this will

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Speaker 1: just make it all of the more dramatic. Great talking Youboddy,

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Speaker 1: right on. Thank you the volume. Make sure to check

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