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Speaker 1: We're gonna start with little toast.

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Speaker 2: Ah, what's the toast to today?

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Speaker 1: I like to toast the fatherhood because we are both fathers.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: I am Wilmer Valderama, I'm Freddie Rodrigan. Welcome through those egos.

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Speaker 3: Yes, your podcast from us to you. We're happy to

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Speaker 3: be uh back here at the speakeasy.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and uh, you know, like two puppies we are

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Speaker 1: drinking what.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Wilmer made his coffee. He has a

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Speaker 2: pretty sophistic as as as the speakeasy. He's pretty sophisticated.

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Speaker 2: You got to see his coffee system upstairs, you know,

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Speaker 2: equally as sophistication.

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Speaker 3: I think I started overdoing it when I when I

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Speaker 3: I asked my mom, like I was talking to my

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Speaker 3: mom about her life and blah blah blah. And remember

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Speaker 3: I told you guys a couple of episodes ago, I

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Speaker 3: talked about like my grandfather was a coffee a coffee roaster,

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Speaker 1: And I was like, whoa, it's in my blood. So

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Speaker 1: like I trippled down on the coffee and.

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Speaker 3: Every day it was like, oh, but it's like me,

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Speaker 3: It's like I'm a dolphin right, I can swim underwater.

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Speaker 1: Like it's like I should drink a lot of coffee. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: The dark roaster with there everyone, because yeah, it could

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Speaker 3: definitely give you some anxiety, like having.

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Speaker 1: Like a like a like a really dark cigar.

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Speaker 3: You don't know what you're getting into until like three

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Speaker 3: puffs in and you're like, what's happening And I'm like

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: And have you always been in the coffee?

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Speaker 1: I yes, I guess I was.

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Speaker 3: I was a very younger age, but I never you

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Speaker 3: know what it is. I drank his ceremonially. I never

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Speaker 3: drink it because I was like, oh, I'm low energy.

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Speaker 3: I needed and I think I got so accustomed to

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Speaker 1: As soon as like two pm hits me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I eat a coffee. You know, Like how many

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Speaker 2: do you have a day?

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Speaker 4: Let's see.

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Speaker 1: The three three three?

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Speaker 2: Even when you're not working.

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Speaker 3: No, when I'm not working, I forget it completely. Yes,

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Speaker 3: but it's I think I'm on set and I walk

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Speaker 3: But he speaking of comforting fatherhood. Fatherhood is comforting. You

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Speaker 3: is someone you is someone that I really respect and admire.

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Speaker 3: You've said some really beautiful, wonderful things about fatherhood to me,

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Speaker 3: especially at the beginning, you know, when thea Kanda was

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Speaker 1: A run at it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I have more questions than answers in this podcast.

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Speaker 3: I for me, it's about like getting in the mind

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: So it's no surprise that your kids are that that

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Speaker 2: I was nineteen years old. I was living in Chicago,

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like, are you going to keep it?

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Speaker 2: Are you going to do this? Are you? He was

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Speaker 3: What did you think he meant when you say, when

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Speaker 2: I thought he meant responsible in the way that he

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Speaker 2: Her family too. Yeah, you know it wasn't planned, right,

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Speaker 3: It's so interesting too because you think about the word serendipity, right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: You know. Have you ever wondered what I FuG you

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Speaker 2: had to be on your own? No, I'm never really

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Speaker 2: I remember we had this conversation because we've known each

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Speaker 1: You're like, no, no, remember it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't remember it because I was

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Speaker 3: Wow, you guys are more primitively. Yeah, I'd like to

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Speaker 1: What was that feeling? What woke up in you? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You're like, there's just something that happens inside of you, right,

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Speaker 1: He did that for me?

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Speaker 3: I mean I think I would say that my dad

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Speaker 3: And I will never forget one thing that my dad said,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I got scouted very quickly, awful high school.

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Speaker 2: Necessity is the mother of all invention, right, So because

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Speaker 3: And I think to your point, not until I feel

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, I don't know if it's healthy.

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Speaker 1: And I think I had achieved it.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I was always longing to be a parent,

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Speaker 1: As soon as I held my child, as soon as

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Speaker 3: I felt that the purpose I had self proclaimed for

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Speaker 1: What are we creating? What are we leaving behind? It

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Speaker 2: Wow. But she needs a partner in crime.

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Speaker 3: Though, Yes, yes, yes, yes, you know, and I would

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so to me, she'll be signed as

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Speaker 2: I know, morning, And you know what was wonderful about

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Speaker 1: Like I was like, wow, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were kids, you know, we were so you know,

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Speaker 2: when you say, wow, I was forty, I'm like, well, dude,

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Speaker 3: I did less, I broah more energy. You know, Like

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00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 3: I'm working out for thirty you know, I'm going to

446
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 3: sit at seven and I'm done by like six thirty

447
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 3: seven PM. I come home to a couple of emails,

448
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 3: a couple of reads. Yeah, you know, and then and

449
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 3: then I got a clock in with my daughter, you know,

450
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 3: So like that there there is something like very physical

451
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 3: that happens when you putting yourself through that kind of

452
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 3: regiment during the day. But I definitely am getting better

453
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 3: at just creating that space and creating the thing.

454
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 1: But so so I haven't talked about.

455
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 3: What a man is having, right, so I will say

456
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 3: to you that I am having a boy. So we're

457
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 3: having a boy, and we couldn't be more excited to

458
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 3: have the pair.

459
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 2: Right, because.

460
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 1: There is a name I can't I'm going to let

461
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 1: her announce that.

462
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 3: She letting me name Nakano, and she went along with

463
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 3: the name and had a very controversial because people were like,

464
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 3: what this doesn't sound. I named it after a warrior

465
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 3: from a land and where her mom and her dad

466
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 3: had not just only fallen in love and said I

467
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 3: love you for the first time when she became a possibility.

468
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 3: So we named there after a warrior from that because

469
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 3: I also said to myself two things, One she has

470
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 3: a story to tell and two, when she's on her

471
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 3: first date with somebody and somebody asked me, what's your

472
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 3: name means she can say, uh, it's a female Sammarai'

473
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 3: chop your head off? Yes, yes, please add with honor. Yeah,

474
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 3: please approach me with honor.

475
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 4: Right.

476
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: So, yeah, so that that stuff was was important to

477
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 3: us for the name, you know, But the next name,

478
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let her announce it.

479
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're I'm excited. I'm buying it.

480
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: I'm buying Will Junior.

481
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: Imagine love to me, Will Jennier for sure.

482
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 3: But I say, father of two boys, what advice would

483
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 3: you have for someone like me?

484
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 2: Who? Man? What advice? Wow? I mean I can go

485
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: down along laundry list. You know, they're they they emulate

486
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 2: their fathers, right, they emulate their even even your daughter

487
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 2: emulates aspects of you and aspects of your mom. And

488
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: so never think that they're not watching. They're always watching,

489
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: right and uh uh, And so you can say whatever,

490
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 2: you can teach them verbally, lessons or what have you,

491
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 2: but they're always watching, right, And so you know, if

492
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 2: you're gonna look, we're not perfect, right, well human means,

493
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 2: but but but be mindful that they're always watching. And

494
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 2: so you can say whatever you want. Your words can

495
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 2: say that, but your actions will speak louder.

496
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: That's that's beautiful right there.

497
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: That's really I mean, I I reflect on my my

498
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 3: own father when you said that, because because yeah, my

499
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 3: dad was a man is thank the Lord, I still

500
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 3: haven't with me. It's a man of honor, right respect.

501
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 3: He's so kind, he's so given. Yeah, he is a clown.

502
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 3: He's like as much of a nediot as I am.

503
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: And I haven't hung out with him like that. He's

504
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: he's always he's he's pretty shy when he's around me.

505
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean like he you know, he's obviously

506
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 3: a little more comfortable with one or.

507
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: Two in you know what I mean. But you know,

508
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: once you get him going, man, he's.

509
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 3: Like he's just all jokes. He's all jokes. My mom

510
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 3: is the police, but he is.

511
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: She was a disciplinarian of the circus.

512
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I'm kind of the circus for Nakano.

513
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 3: Amanda is like the very soft and patient and arts

514
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 3: and crafts and adventure mom.

515
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: You know who's going to be the disciplinarian.

516
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: And now I think it's probably gonna be me.

517
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but I'm gonna I'm gonna be a

518
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 3: clown first, most likely, because that's my pattern now you know,

519
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: but you know, but it can switch really quickly, you know,

520
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 3: if you know for perspective, for perspective that are you

521
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 3: doing the chunklate chuncolate that yes, yeah, never never never

522
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 3: hand never had never a hand only chocolate, multi.

523
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: Generation of proven tactic.

524
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's very soft, but it is dramatic,

525
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 3: it's threatening. It's dramatic, like you know, the you can

526
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 3: you can have a chunklatea flight like a ninja star

527
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 3: across the room and and when he misses you, you

528
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 3: know that he had potential to so something in grains

529
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: and you kind of change your tune, you know.

530
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 2: So so for for those who don't know, a chunkolatea

531
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 2: is a sandal, usually a what do you call this

532
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: when we're an open not open toe like they're like, yeah,

533
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 2: they're like a sand sandal. And when you would act

534
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: up as a kid, your mom would take this.

535
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 3: It's quite literally a beach sandal, one of those like

536
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 3: you where with the with like your swimming trunks, like

537
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 3: moms wear those all day at home. That's like the

538
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 3: universal mom footwear, you know, and every household and so

539
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: it's very accessible, easy to take off and it actually

540
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 3: takes flight in a very aggressive way.

541
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: It takes Ninja star aspects to it, you know, I.

542
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 3: Mean if it wasn't because it comes from uh you know,

543
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: with this high like this really loud greens and blues

544
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: and oranges, you would never see it coming.

545
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: You never see it coming.

546
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: And usually moms get those chuncolate dos from whatever whatever

547
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: place they visited. So my mom would have chuncolate dos

548
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: that would say Puerto Rico on it Live New.

549
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: York with I Love New York chucolate. That are the

550
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: ones that hit the worst. Those are a lot.

551
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 3: Of those specifically stificate for some recent and hard Yes, yeah, she.

552
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 2: Would have Puerto Rico with like Moroccas on the on

553
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: the throng part right here. But it was but it

554
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 2: was always met with, like with a threatening manner.

555
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: Like yeah you better.

556
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

557
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 3: I never wanted to get hit with the Las Vegas.

558
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: I love Las Vegas and Clinton because it came with

559
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 3: Ryan Stones and they scratch, they come, they leave Mark.

560
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now we haven't even talked about the belt.

561
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: Oh man, when do you introduce the symbolism of the belt?

562
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 4: Wow?

563
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 3: Because not even in on this generally, well, my now,

564
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 3: this generation don't know. They don't know why you will

565
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: take a belt off, Like nobody really can fathom what

566
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: a belt could be all it was for other than

567
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 3: like to hold your pants up.

568
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: What would you you were about to say, what were

569
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 2: your dad?

570
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: Well the symbolism of taking the taking the belt.

571
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: Maybe they're looking in the eye, sound.

572
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 3: Right right, just out of all the hoops, you know,

573
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 3: and in the hand like my dad never swing, He

574
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 3: never hit me with the belt, just thatck click click,

575
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, he's some words.

576
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's the imagery is on my life and

577
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: the imagery and some threatening words behind it was.

578
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: My mom was not shy of making that to fly. Yeah,

579
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: you know, she made content.

580
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: But my dad just you know, I would say this

581
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: to a lot of that that's one of the things

582
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 3: that my dad did.

583
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: My dad never hit us, and I think it's why

584
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: it was so scary.

585
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the reason why I was so scary because

586
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 3: I never knew what it would feel like because there at

587
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 3: some point, and I think any son knows this now

588
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: that at some point your mom she's the disciplinary, right,

589
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: so she's the wine, like with the broomstick or whatever

590
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: you gotta do.

591
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: But at some point the stops hurting, right for a

592
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: young boy.

593
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 3: Right, So at that point, how many of you at

594
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: home have pretended that it hurts just to get your mommy.

595
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: To stop, like mommy, no, no, and then she stops.

596
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: She goes, Okay, if she stopped, you know.

597
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: Your mom loses muscle mass.

598
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 3: Yes it doesn't, but yeah, just the thread of the

599
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: belt is was was that symbol the symbol of you know, discipline?

600
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: That's so I take it you're not going to be

601
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: that when your son is born.

602
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: No, I mean, look, I I here's the thing. I

603
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: think that will he ever get a chunklata from Amanda?

604
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: Probably?

605
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: Probably she will get a chunklator She's half Mexican, so

606
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: you know it's.

607
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: In her.

608
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: For me.

609
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 3: I you know, I think there is a level of

610
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 3: communication that you know that we have to practice really

611
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: early on with kids, you know, And the most important

612
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 3: thing to me is is understand consequences. Yeah, consequences as

613
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 3: a practice is what probably will prevent to any type

614
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 3: of violence at home, you know. And you know you

615
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 3: start there, but I think, look, I think it looks

616
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 3: are very important.

617
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: Oh oh watch out, you know, that's that's it.

618
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: You don't.

619
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: Oh, you don't want that.

620
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: You don't you don't want that, because what follows is like, Correa,

621
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Yeah, but yeah, I mean

622
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: I guess that's that's that's interesting.

623
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: Did you did you have like with your boys?

624
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 3: It was there a point in their life where you

625
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 3: were like, I mean, do I have to get physical

626
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: for them to understand me?

627
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: Because I feel like they seem like really nice nice?

628
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, not not really maybe a few times no, no,

629
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: And this A lot of this credit goes to Elsie,

630
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: my wife. You know, she's she she she talked to them,

631
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: you know, she's not afraid to get in there and

632
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: have our long conversations and and a lot of it

633
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: is just like I feel like kids at that age

634
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: just want to be heard, you know. They want to

635
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: feel like you're not talking down to them. They want

636
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: to feel yeah, you know, and trust me. A lot

637
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: of times it came down to that. But a lot

638
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: of it was her listening to them and and really

639
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: trying to understand their perspective and us trying to communicate

640
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: our perspective. And so there was just a lot of

641
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: talking in the house. She would take them to school

642
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: and they would have long conversations in the car about that,

643
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: talking a lot with them till this day. You know,

644
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: it's funny because they're older now, and I say to them, look,

645
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: I'm still your dad, right, Like, obviously I can't send

646
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: you on a time out or I can't punish you.

647
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: So now I'm just your closest advisor, right, because there's

648
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: nobody in this world who cares more for you than

649
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: me or your mom. Right, So every every word that

650
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: comes out of your mouth that pertains to advice is

651
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: for your well being. Right. So I'm your closest advisor.

652
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: And so that's ultimately what you become to.

653
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 4: Them, you know.

654
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 3: And I kind of at a very younger age, we

655
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: were talking to her, you know, we weren't. We weren't

656
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: like go here, go there, do that. And I think

657
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: Amanda has done a beautiful job of saying like things

658
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: like you know, honey, you you can walk yourself into

659
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: the bathroom, you can stand up and do your business,

660
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: and you can do it. You can really do it.

661
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 3: And she's like, are you sure, mommy, I think I

662
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: want you to come with me. She goes, well, stand

663
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: at the door with you. So she like really rations

664
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 3: and at some point she starts doing these things independently,

665
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 3: so so and I kind of has her level of

666
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: of you know, communication has has really really grown, and

667
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it has to do with

668
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 3: Amanda is very good at talking to her. Yeah, Amanda

669
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 3: doesn't yell at her, doesn't scream, doesn't anything, just like

670
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: she just talks to her like, Hey, I need to

671
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: do your hair because no, Mammy, I don't want to.

672
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,479
Speaker 3: I need to do your hair because you you know,

673
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: you have such a pretty dress and you're going to

674
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 3: go to school, and what you do right before you

675
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: go to school, we go outside, you do your hair

676
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: very pretty, so so it goes with your outfit and.

677
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: She goes, okay, then I want princess hair.

678
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: And then therefore they're saying, you know, it's like this

679
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 3: this flow, you know, yeah, which feels really cool.

680
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think our general generation was more like

681
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: the tough generation, right, like, you know, dads and moms

682
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: took no no mess, right, so it's like you acted up.

683
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: The belt came out right away, and so there was

684
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: a lot of discipline and then I felt like after

685
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: that came sort of this this kind of love new

686
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 2: age generation and they disrespect to that generation either or

687
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 2: that parenting style. But but then there was a lack

688
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: of of of discipline and accountability and all the stuff

689
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: that came with that. I'm I'm I'm more of I

690
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: think that there should be a healthy balance between the two.

691
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: Healthy balance of discipline in whatever form suits your family.

692
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,479
Speaker 2: With love. But there has to be love, man. Love.

693
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 2: Love is the key component. Kids feel love. You know,

694
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: what's what's that saying? Uh, you don't remember what someone says,

695
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 2: but you remember how they make you feel, right and

696
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 2: that and that applies to parenthood as well. Yeah.

697
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: And by the way, the sense of humor. Oh yeah,

698
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,959
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta have a sense of humor.

699
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: You gotta tell them it's okay to laugh, it's okay

700
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: to be silly, it's okay to yeah. I mean, I

701
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 3: feel like that's one thing that I think an account

702
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 3: has really benefit from. She is such a little you know,

703
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 3: such a little payasa bro. Like she's coming into the

704
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 3: house and she's just making the voices, and like she

705
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 3: had like old Lady day at school and she got

706
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: old old lady where all the kids got dressed like

707
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: their you know, grandparents.

708
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: Ah and uh, and she was just like super committed

709
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: and like she was like such a little clown.

710
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 3: But I feel like that's such a great exercise for

711
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 3: them to play all these different characters.

712
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: She like, it's on tapping all these different things. What

713
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: about what she was.

714
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: Playing you the other day? Oh yeah remember that?

715
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: Yes, for the viewers.

716
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 2: I come into Warmer's office and the condo has a

717
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: gun or no, what was that?

718
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: It was like it was a nerve. There's a nerve? No, no,

719
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: actually it launched little planes. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

720
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: And she was running around saying and.

721
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: Cis sheen on the floor? Hints up now?

722
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: And I was like, dude, she's doing you.

723
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, we play characters all the time.

724
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 3: She she's like such a little act.

725
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: But she's emulating her father, Like she saw you do

726
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: that on TV and now she's doing it, Which goes

727
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: to my point, Right, it's not what you say, is

728
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: it's your actions? Is what they see you do? Yeah?

729
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 1: I think this is super helpful.

730
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 3: You know, when we think about this multi generational inheritance

731
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: and how we pass down you know, fatherhood. You know,

732
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: what is fatherhood look like for your kids? What is

733
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 3: it going to look like for their kids? You know,

734
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 3: how do they carry on with these traditions. I think

735
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 3: our culture has so much that really works, you know

736
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 3: when it comes to the hard working trade, you know,

737
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: the sharing, the celebratory trades, like we know how to celebrate,

738
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 3: we know how to work hard, and we're big lovers man,

739
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 3: you know. And I think as long as the music

740
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: keeps playing at home, there's gonna be some kind of

741
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: harmony and some kind of energetic therapeutic, you know, energy

742
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 3: at home.

743
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have, I guess uh. And and we'll end

744
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: this by saying, you know you it's going to be

745
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 2: a tough one. Well, I guess it's tough every general.

746
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: Every generation comes with its own things, right and and

747
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: like you're you know, the counter is four is she for?

748
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: And then you have your new child and so you're

749
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: you're dealing with a whole other plethora of like social media,

750
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: Like social media didn't exist when my my kids were young,

751
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: you know, so, and.

752
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 3: How quickly changes, right, like every five or ten years

753
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 3: or something different. So imagine when it kind of turns fourteen,

754
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: why would be the social media platform? Then what is

755
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 3: the content that's kind of sweeping kids attention?

756
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: You?

757
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 4: Like?

758
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 3: That kind of stuff is something that we're gonna have

759
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: to kind of adjust and and kind of evolve with.

760
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: I think that you have to be cognizant that that

761
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: that that you're human and and that happens, and that

762
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: there are times where you're on your phone a little

763
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 2: too much when your kid is trying to talk to you.

764
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: You're so driven to attain certain heights in your career

765
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: that sometimes that takes precedence, right, and and and that's

766
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 2: all normal in the path. I think what's important is

767
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: that you're aware, right, and that you're aware and that

768
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 2: and that there's a constant self check in that because

769
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 2: it goes by really really fast. Man, you know, counts

770
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: four now, she'll be fourteen, then she'll be twenty four,

771
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 2: then she'll be thirty four. All of a sudden you'll

772
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: be a granddad, you know. And he goes by like this,

773
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: And so it's just important that every single day you

774
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: realize that it's going that's going pretty damn fast and

775
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: h and and be aware of her presence and how

776
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: much time you're giving her, right and and if and

777
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 2: if days there are going to be days where you slip,

778
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 2: where you don't have the right balance, and that's okay too,

779
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: and you're human and you have to forgive yourself and

780
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: you have to just check it and then keep moving on.

781
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: That's powerful.

782
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really helpful because I have a lot of

783
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: on my plate myself, and I think the finding of

784
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 3: the balance is something that Amanda and I really really

785
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: working on. You know, we love taking little trips here

786
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 3: and there and all that stuff. You know, the bandwidth

787
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 3: for that. Sometimes when the seasonal areas, when I'm locked

788
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 3: in on a show and we're in production for other things,

789
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 3: you know, it makes it a little more difficult. But

790
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 3: one way that I've balanced that is by you know,

791
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: allowing and creating a space at work where they can

792
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: come and visit, you know. And I know that a

793
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: lot of careers don't empower that, but if you do

794
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 3: have a lunch hour and your family is down to

795
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 3: show up to your work, you have a lot of

796
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 3: lunch with you, that's an easy way to do it,

797
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: right or like you know, you the family wants to

798
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 3: you know, you're about to get off work and everyone

799
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 3: wants to go meet at a restaurant and let's go

800
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 3: have Korean barbecue like that kind of stuff. It like

801
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: closes your day and allows you to have something to

802
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 3: remember tomorrow and then the next day and the next

803
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 3: day because you have things to look forward to. I've

804
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: been I'm lucky enough during my lunch, you know, Aman

805
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 3: then I kind of would just pop in, you know,

806
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 3: and I'll just have lunch with them instead of by

807
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 3: myself and my trailer, you know, waiting for you know, the.

808
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: Lunch to be over.

809
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: So that's the kind of balance, you know, that you

810
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: kind of want to find, especially because our jobs are

811
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: incredibly demanding, yeah, and they're now realistic. The amount of

812
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 3: hours that we work during the day nobody knows about, right,

813
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 3: Nobody has any sympathy for the amount of work that

814
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: it takes to creatively tell the story and most importantly,

815
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: the focus that it comes with with that and the

816
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 3: toll that it takes on you and and you know,

817
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 3: nobody has sympathy for that either, right, which is fine,

818
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 3: you know, like none of us are asking for it, right,

819
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: But I think at the end of the day, when

820
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: it comes to our personal lives and the humanity that

821
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 3: we have to continue to be connected to if we're

822
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 3: going to be good performers, we have to make space

823
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 3: for that too. And you know, if there is a

824
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 3: Friday off, you know, then like maybe you use a

825
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 3: little bit of the morning for your meetings and stuff

826
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 3: like that, and then maybe use the afternoon to go

827
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: on a little road trip to Sunday. Like that's the

828
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: kind of stuff that I feel like we really got

829
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 3: to put the foot down on and and I'm trying

830
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: to you know, listen, I don't have the you know,

831
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: I'm not you know, I don't have the perfect balance

832
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: for that, but we're definitely trying to really practice it.

833
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 3: But it's a great reminder also for all of us,

834
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 3: no matter what professional work career, you're so focus on

835
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 3: being good at the job you have so you can

836
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 3: hold that space and hold that job because it provides

837
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: you know, this this stability and this safety for your family.

838
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: Let's never forget why you get up in the morning

839
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 3: in the first place.

840
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: You know why you do it all for.

841
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 3: You can work so much and achieve so much, but

842
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: the reason why you do it is because you're also

843
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 3: trying to share that you know, that's safety with your

844
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 3: family and also you got to enjoy them. Last advice

845
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 3: I was giving before I become a father, he goes,

846
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: just make sure you enjoy your family. Just enjoy your family, Yeah,

847
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 3: as much as you possibly can enjoy it, tap into it.

848
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: There's nothing like, oh, I.

849
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: Haven't seen my boys, or I haven't had a girl's

850
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 3: night or like in a long time whatever, which I

851
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: know that that feels like something that's fulfilling because it's

852
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 3: escape and it's also a little bit of like an

853
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 3: outburst of you know, energy, and that's very important to

854
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: make time for. I would say it's also just equally

855
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 3: as critical to just enjoy the time you out of

856
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 3: your family.

857
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: You know, That's that was one of the best things

858
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: I've ever heard. Just enjoy them.

859
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, enjoy your family. You know, you're not just taking

860
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 3: care of them.

861
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: You're there so you can enjoy them, you know.

862
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and you're bonding. You know that that's important

863
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: to continually build that bond, whether it's through the holidays,

864
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: whether it's through family trips, whether it's just through like

865
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 2: dinner on a Sunday. You know, us as humans have

866
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: to continue I.

867
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: Mean, look, and it's the little things.

868
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: It's a little things, man, right, They're always going to

869
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: be your your child. But but like it's there are

870
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: people who are parent and child who have no bond

871
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: and no communication and no synergy and no nothing. You know,

872
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: and you're human. You have to continually work at trying

873
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: to build that. Sometimes people forget that you have to

874
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 2: put the effort to do that. They think it's instantaneous

875
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: because you're related.

876
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 3: Right, Well, this is great and I as a great

877
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 3: reminder for both of us we continue to stay busy

878
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 3: and doing our careers. But you've done it beautiful. You

879
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 3: have a beautiful family. So I had all those questions.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for answering all those and you know, another

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Speaker 3: beautiful conversation with you, man, And thank you to everyone

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Speaker 3: who tuned in hope you found a little healing, a

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Speaker 3: little direction, other inspiration, you know. And for those soon

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Speaker 3: to be parents for the first time, congratulations.

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Speaker 1: Nothing changes, It all just evolves. Some people tell you

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Speaker 1: everything's gonna change.

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Speaker 3: Don't let anybody tell you the horror stories first, and

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Speaker 3: then tell you but you're gonna be fine. That's not

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Speaker 3: and like this and this and this, and you don't

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Speaker 3: do this anymore, done at all, but you're going to

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Speaker 3: be fine. Like no, you're gonna be fine because you're

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Speaker 3: just evolvement into the next face of your life.

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Speaker 1: That being said, I'm Wilmer Valdorama, Freddy Rodriguez.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for tuning in to Fatherhood and see you

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Speaker 3: guys in the next episode of Dose Aveagos.

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Speaker 2: Dose Amigos is a production from WV Sound and iHeartMedia's

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Speaker 2: Michael through That podcast network, hosted by Me, Freddie Rodriguez

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Speaker 2: and Wilmer Valdorama.

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Speaker 3: Those Amigos is produced by Aaron Burlson and Sophie Spencer Zabos.

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Speaker 2: Our executive producers are Wilmer Valdorama, Freddie Rodriguez, Aaron Burlson

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Speaker 2: and Leo Klem at w V Sound.

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Speaker 3: This episode was shot and edited it by Ryan Posts

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Speaker 3: and mixed by Sean Tracy and features original music by

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Speaker 3: Madison Devenport and Hello Boy.

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Speaker 2: Our cover art photography is by David Avalos and designed

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Speaker 2: by Deny Holtzkall and.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for being there third Amigo today. I appreciate

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Speaker 3: you guys. Always listening to Dose Amigos.

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Speaker 2: More pod cast from my Heart, visit the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 2: Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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Speaker 1: See you next week.