1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: This is the best of two pros and a couple 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: of Joe with LaVar Airings and Rady Win and Jonas 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Knox on Fox Sports Radio. 4 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: Well, I do have some good news what my new 5 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: song request was sent in and I have it on 6 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: good authority that tomorrow will be the day of debuts okay, 7 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: and it ain't gonna be around for long, So hope 8 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: you enjoy it. But it is two pros and a 9 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 2: cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, 10 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: Jonas Knox with you here. 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Okay, good, Hey, 17 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: I'm telling you tomorrow the new song's coming and it's 18 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 2: gonna be there for a week. 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 3: Who did you give your song to? 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 4: Mean? 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 3: Brady's already out the gate? 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: Well, I emailed Ricky. He said he's not gonna be 23 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: until today. 24 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're already. I mean, what does it matter you're 25 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 4: late to the party, buddy. 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all right, it's okay. 27 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: What about you get your. 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, film got it? I don't know. I was talking 29 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: trash now. 30 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 4: I don't have a whole lot of confidence, you know, 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 4: so I'm not just man, I'm gonna just steer clear, 32 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 4: you know. 33 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, just stay over here. 34 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: Man. Well mine's not very good. So well I'm curious 35 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 2: to see what. 36 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 4: I don't understand. Why would you choose a not so 37 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 4: good song. 38 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: It's just appropriate, you'll see when you hear it, like, 39 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: it's just appropriate. Like I said, it's got it's got 40 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: a week's uh lifetime on it, and then after that 41 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: it's over, it'll be done, beyond done. 42 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: Deal. That's where we did not come in with any 43 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: ounce of confidence. 44 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 2: No, it's not because it's one of those things you think, oh, 45 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: that'll get people going. Then you listen to it and go, no, 46 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: not really, not at all. Actually, like that's gonna be 47 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a doozy. 48 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 4: But mine too, though, that really might be mine as well. 49 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 4: So you know, no worries, don't feel bad about it. 50 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 4: Just just live with your decision, you know. 51 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: What I mean, Well, we do have good news though. 52 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: Okay. 53 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: Week eight in the NFL kicks off later tonight. It's 54 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: not Friday, kicks off later on tonight, baby, Okay, at 55 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: the world's largest gazebo, Sofi Stadium. We got the Vikings, 56 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: we got the Chargers, and we got the LA Chargers, 57 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: a three and a half point favorite. And if you're 58 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: the Chargers, all you're hoping for is can Justin Herbert 59 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: just get through the game in one piece because he 60 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: is running for his life. Recently they've lost three of 61 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: four the Viking side of things. JJ McCarthy is still out. 62 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: He's missed twenty two of twenty four possible starts in 63 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 2: his NFL career. Whatever the ankle injury was, seems like 64 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: it's lasted a little bit longer than maybe some people expected. 65 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: And Carson Wentz is gonna give it a go. 66 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 5: All right. Let me push back on that a little bit. 67 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 5: They said it was gonna be a six week injury, 68 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 5: and I believe for this week, next week it's about 69 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 5: six weeks. Who said, well, that's a high ankle sprain, 70 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 5: ask var like he's got ankles. I got ankles. Yeah, 71 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 5: six weeks high ankles. Six weeks, man, it takes a while. Yeah, usually, 72 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 5: like people tend to forget. Usually like remember Tua like 73 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 5: in college, got those tight the tightrope procedure. 74 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: No bike chain where they go in the bike chain. 75 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's like that helped expedite the process to 76 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 5: get back sooner, create more stability. You know that was 77 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 5: you know people. I don't know if people are doing 78 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 5: that as much anymore, but it takes about six weeks, man, 79 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 5: So this is about that time frame. And I think 80 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 5: the other thing is for JJ McCarthy, is you wanted 81 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 5: to come back and be one hundred percent healthy. I 82 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 5: think there's a lot of people who are curious, maybe 83 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 5: some doubters. Dare I say, of what he doing? Yeah 84 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 5: trumpid Yeah, because because you saw what Donald did last year. 85 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 5: Wentz has played well at times this year. I'm not 86 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 5: sure he's played the level of Donald last year. But 87 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 5: you know, if he goes out there and flops, it's 88 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 5: going to create a bad narrative. And so you better 89 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 5: go out there at least be one hundred percent. If 90 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 5: there's a lot of people who are curious whether or 91 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 5: not he can get the job done and be the guy. 92 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 4: Has Wentz been impressive enough during this stretch for there 93 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 4: to be a controversy if he doesn't play well, like 94 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 4: that's like out the gate. I think I think it 95 00:04:55,040 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 4: was a foregone conclusion, but lately I just don't. I 96 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 4: feel like when JJ McCarthy gets back, it will be welcomed. 97 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 4: And if he stumbles out of the gate, I don't 98 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 4: know that there would be as much pressure on him 99 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 4: now as there were a little bit. 100 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 5: I would have said until this past week, Yes, there 101 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 5: was gonna be pressure on him. He struggled versus Philly. 102 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 5: I mean that that was his worst game starting for 103 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 5: the Vikings so far. So if you would have just 104 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 5: stopped and JJ would have went over to Philly, maybe 105 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 5: a different story. Because Onz has played pretty well. That 106 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 5: was like his first Like, oh okay, that wasn't That 107 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 5: wasn't good. 108 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: He wasn't good. 109 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: He's probably he's probably battling the demons. You know, that 110 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: was his franchise. He was supposed to be the guy. 111 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 2: And uh, there's Jalen Hurts, the one who replaced him, 112 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: out there all of a sudden, slinging it around and 113 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: DeVante Smith going wild. So could have been some mental 114 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: stuff going on for Carson Wentz there trying to get 115 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: over get over all that that was going on. I 116 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 2: just wonder at one point because when JJ McCarthy does 117 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: come back, and I think some of the thought was, well, 118 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: if it wasn't a short week, maybe it would have 119 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,119 Speaker 2: been more possible. Aaron Jones is coming off the ir 120 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: as well too. He's questionable at least according to the 121 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: latest report. But I wonder if when JJ McCarthy comes back, 122 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: you have to see what you got right. So I 123 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: don't know that there's not that this is a throwaway year, 124 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: but this is a we need to find out what 125 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: we've got in our quarterback yere and whether that results 126 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 2: in a playoff spot or not. I think long term, 127 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: big picture, while they want to be competitive this year 128 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 2: and they'd love to make a run at it, they're 129 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: just trying to figure out whether or not JJ McCarthy 130 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 2: is the goods. 131 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 4: That's at least I think that's a legitimate I think 132 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 4: that's a legitimate synopsis. I definitely think that they they 133 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 4: there's a want for one and that's that's always a 134 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: great thing when when the franchise want to understand and 135 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: wants to know what they have in a drafted, a 136 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 4: high drafted franchise possible franchise guy for them at that position. 137 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 4: So one percent, they're gonna want to see what he 138 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 4: can do when he gets back, but they're also, to 139 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 4: Q's point, gonna want to make sure that he's ready. 140 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: To do that. 141 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 4: So if if it happens to not be the time 142 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 4: frame that was was maybe specified or put out there, 143 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 4: you know, tentatively, whatever it may be, they're gonna make 144 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 4: sure he has the proper amount of time to get 145 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 4: one hundred percent healthy. I mean, it does them no 146 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 4: good if he goes out there and and he crumbles, 147 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 4: you know, and under under the the the ankle not 148 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 4: being all the way properly healed, or he doesn't play 149 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 4: well because his ankle isn't properly healed. And I think 150 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 4: that that's gonna be the biggest measurement of how this 151 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 4: all goes, because that's a super important part of this, 152 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 4: right Like, you don't want to put him out there 153 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 4: and position him to fail because of the very conversation 154 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 4: we're having right now. 155 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: I did see this on Pro Football Talk. I can't 156 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: even believe it's a real stat If Justin Jefferson gets 157 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: forty yards receiving. Tonight, he'll surpass Julio Jones for the 158 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: fastest to eight thousand in his career. That guy's already 159 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: at eight thousand career receivings in eighty three games. What 160 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: the end? 161 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 3: I mean, people just throw up all these days. 162 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 5: Man, Well, that's his talent. I mean, obviously is part 163 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 5: of that, but I also I kind of give some 164 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 5: credit to Kevin O'Connell's staff. I mean, that team knows 165 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 5: how to get him the football too. And just from 166 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 5: talking with KOC, one of the things he always says 167 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 5: is like, our entire game plan is built around Justin 168 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 5: Jefferson and how teams are going to play him. It 169 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 5: sounds wild, but when you talk to him, he's like, no, 170 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 5: He's like, we know in the first series, like how 171 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 5: to get him the ball, what we're going to do 172 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 5: offensively because of how teams are going to either try 173 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 5: to match up with them and try to take him away, 174 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 5: try to you know, double them. Maybe they feel confident 175 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 5: in the corner they have and they'll leave him singled up. 176 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 5: But he always says, like they do enough with him 177 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 5: in that first series where they know how teams are 178 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 5: going to try to play him. So it's it's obviously 179 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 5: justin Jefferson's talent and ability, but credit the staff too 180 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 5: for figuring out how to get him open, how to 181 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 5: get him, you know, as many targets as he gets. 182 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 5: And what's amazing about that stat too, Think about the 183 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 5: number of quarterbacks he's been with. 184 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, like cousins for a period of time. 185 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 5: Now we've gone through a transition where it's been Darnold, 186 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 5: a little bit of JJ McCarthy, Carson Wentz. I mean 187 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 5: it's it's been a different, you know, different group of quarterbacks. 188 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 5: And I don't know what the future holds, if it'll 189 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 5: be JJ McCarthy or not. 190 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think anybody knows that answer. Honestly, I don't. Again, 191 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 4: I don't know that JJ McCarthy knows that answer. But 192 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 4: I'll say this, Yeah, I'll say this. They got to 193 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 4: travel into California. They had to travel into California to 194 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 4: do this, and I think that that is to me, 195 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: I think these teams are pretty evenly matched. 196 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: I will say, you know, looking at. 197 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 4: Where the Chargers are right now, I mean they they 198 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 4: got to write their ship to like they seem like 199 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 4: they were really on the right track to be in 200 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 4: a dominant team. I mean, they have some unfortunate losses 201 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 4: to their roster, but I look at this Chargers team 202 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 4: and say, at least they had the friendly confines of 203 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 4: being home and and seeing if they can do it 204 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 4: here versus going on the road to do it. 205 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 5: So they can feel like they're having away game. 206 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. 207 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, there'll be more Minnesota. Did you 208 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: think this is a home game for the Chargers. 209 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 5: I don't think you're gonna hear the call horn in 210 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 5: the entire time. 211 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: Dang you think you're going to hear the horn? 212 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: Oh god, oh yeah, skull chance, it's over. Listen people 213 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 2: listening on the alle horn of the Twin Cities k 214 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: fan right now. Yeah, you don't worry. You will be 215 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 2: well represented out in Sofi. 216 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 5: Stadium, that's right. 217 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 2: Dang well. 218 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 5: I mean, dude, Vikings fans too, they travel, Like I 219 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 5: think I told you when I was in Carolina calling 220 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 5: a game. It was Carolina FIRSUS Minnesota, and they started 221 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 5: banging that big drum in Carolina and all the Vikings 222 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 5: fans started the collap. They started to the skull chant, 223 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 5: and then someone eventually had to go over to the 224 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 5: person for the Panthers who was hitting the drum. They're like, don't, 225 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 5: don't do that. It's not a good look. Like Minnesota's 226 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 5: overtaken our crowd. You know, the entire like half the 227 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 5: stands were Minnesota Vikings fans. Apparently there's been like a 228 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 5: migration from Minnesota to someone of the Carolinas. So there's 229 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 5: a lot of Vikings fans down there. 230 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 2: So be warm. I guess the Vikings don't like the 231 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: cold anymore. 232 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 3: Huh, yeah, I guess not. 233 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 5: They'll be in southern California to drinking their beer, pillaging 234 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 5: their villages. 235 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 3: There. 236 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 5: You go, watching the Southern Californians just roll over. The 237 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 5: Vikings are yeah, Vikings. 238 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: No bottle. It's about how things will go. 239 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 5: They come right into Jonas's household. They'll they'll have their way. 240 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 5: Let me drinking his orange juice, make it in the kitchen, naked, 241 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 5: just drinking his orange juice. 242 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 2: Jonas, what's he gonna do about it? 243 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 3: Not? I need. 244 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 4: A damn thing, not a of orange juice, Jonas. 245 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: Although I would be I would tread light if you 246 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: come near my place. We took care of it. We 247 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: took care of a rat yesterday and it did the 248 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: real one. Yeah, it did not go as smooth as 249 00:12:58,640 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna go. 250 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 5: Will sound from Rayel. 251 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 2: Sorry, I just hate. 252 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 4: That sound like that did sound like Brady Quinn's Quinn's Wins. 253 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 4: You will never be able to make certain sound effects. 254 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 4: That's all I would say. 255 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 5: Waits burs do it again? 256 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: Come on ray Ray play play Quinn's Wins Twins Wins. 257 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: That's not far off, that's what it sounds like. 258 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: Far off. 259 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 5: Well man, I still can't believe that's you. 260 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: I played it for my friend the other day. I 261 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: was like, you want to hear something? Uh? 262 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 5: What did they say? 263 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: Shook their head? How many of you know? How many 264 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: of your fans on social media are jealous that Brady 265 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: got a drop that you authored and they didn't a 266 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 2: lot of upset. So do you guys know what to talk? 267 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: Cat trap is? 268 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 4: These things are sweet. So it's it's the rare one 269 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 4: that like they walk in and which one is it? 270 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 2: Well a couple so tom Kat's the brand, but it's 271 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: the one that snaps down. It's the black one because 272 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: I don't like the one where they go in like 273 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 2: the little like almost like a cubby and the poison 274 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 2: there and they just you're too smart for that. Yeah, 275 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: and they get stuck. 276 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 4: So there's beginners and there's vets. You know, I don't know. 277 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, if you got one, there's more than one. 278 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 279 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 4: So I experienced that at my last crib. You know, 280 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 4: I told you about that nickod Demons and all the 281 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 4: rest of his group. 282 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead. 283 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: Well, so they they'll come on like the back patio, 284 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: and we've had a few over the past few years. 285 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: And they'll come on the back patio and there's a 286 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: little hole to get in the back fence. And so 287 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: I'll set this trap up and I'll put peanut butter 288 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: in the little cup and then i'll prop it open. 289 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 2: And this latest one went in and somehow ate the 290 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: peanut butter out of the cup and it didn't go off, 291 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: and it pissed me off, and I'm thought, son of 292 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: a bitch. So then I was out to get him. 293 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: And so this time I just smeared peanut butter all 294 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: over the place. I put it everywhere. So I see 295 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: the traps moved yesterday and. 296 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 4: Yourself too, Oh yeah, come on, okay, I mean why 297 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 4: was you as yourself? 298 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: I mean it's it's Wednesday night, why not? So I figured, 299 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: so I set this trap up. I see that it's moved. 300 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, got him. He's right under the fence. 301 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: I go to pick the trap up and he's still alive. 302 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: But it got his back leg. He had crawled under 303 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: the fence and was chewing his way through a little 304 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 2: like garden bench that we had there. This thing chewed 305 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: this thing to pieces, fighting for his life, and I 306 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: really admired it so much so that you just throw 307 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: him in a in a Ralph's bag, little grocery bag, 308 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: and just take it over there. Now, take it over 309 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: to the park and put it in the trash. And 310 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: if that thing is still going, he ain't got much 311 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: time left. So if you are one of these vikings 312 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: and you come into my house, you got to deal 313 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 2: with the tomcat trap. Okay, those things there's a ninety 314 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: five percent close rate on those. 315 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 4: Man, that wasn't Nicodemus. You deal with Nicodemus. It's it's 316 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 4: going to be harder, man. I'm telling you, I just 317 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 4: don't like you dealt with one of the little like 318 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 4: the FBS man, you know what I mean? Like you 319 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 4: know you know that far Yeah, that wouldn't it. That 320 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 4: wouldn't That wouldn't that wouldn't the guy. You didn't get 321 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 4: the guy, bro, So just know you're you're going to 322 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 4: deal with with more of it. 323 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: They don't. They don't roll alone. 324 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: Man, you think Berna would have work? 325 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 4: It would have been fun work. I'll tell you that. 326 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 4: It would have been fun work. And if you could 327 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: hit see if you could hit it, how accurate you are? 328 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: Well what it was in the trap? Just put it 329 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: down while out and. 330 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: And bust a cap in its ass? 331 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 5: So you got a rat just running rampant around your 332 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 5: place right now? 333 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: Not anymore? 334 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 5: So you did kill it? 335 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if it's dead yet, but yeah, 336 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: I got it. It was stuck in the trap in 337 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: its back leg. 338 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: And I put it in this morning before you now yesterday? 339 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: Yeah you put it in a bag? Yeah, in the trash. 340 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah no not my movie, No, not my trash, the 341 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: park trash so all the kids can see. 342 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 3: It was it? Was it a plastic bag or a 343 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: paper bag? 344 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: Plastic bag? You are a menace, bro? Yeah, I mean a. 345 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 5: Little right through that. You don't I don't know that, 346 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 5: I bet? 347 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? Gooes out? 348 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you think suffocate Yeah, is it air tight. It's 349 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 2: a little teas, little teas. You's not gonna be able 350 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: to get out of there, but there's enough air to 351 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: where he's gonna he's gonna watch his final moments and rattit. 352 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 5: He's gonna be out of that thing, cooking up a 353 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 5: nice Italian meal somewhere in it. 354 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: Well, if he does get out, God bless him, and 355 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 2: God speak because there's an owl the size of a 356 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 2: seven forty seven in our neighborhood that is looking for 357 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 2: things to eat. This thing is huge and. 358 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 4: Is going to come free them. Man, I'm telling you, 359 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 4: it's like just like in the movie. It's gonna come 360 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 4: get him. Yeah, disease, and then they're going to come 361 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 4: get you. What does it depends on you? 362 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 5: Well, it depends on how your prostate's doing, you know. 363 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 3: And let me tell you. 364 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: This, it's a great point. 365 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 5: If you need to your prostate checked out, I recommend 366 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 5: going so does depend and they're teaming up with a 367 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 5: prostate cancer Foundation to remind you that health it's a 368 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 5: long game. Whether you're trying to go out for a 369 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 5: nice meal and it's ruined by a rat, or just 370 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 5: trying to kill a rat at home. Yeah, screening for 371 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 5: prostate cancer is easier than ever, so don't get distracted 372 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 5: by the rat Go out, get tested. He could be 373 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 5: a simple blood test. 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Whether you believe 386 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 6: in analytics or the ie test, We've got all the 387 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 6: bases covered. New episodes drop every Thursday, So do yourself 388 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 6: a favor and listen to Inside the Parkner with Rob 389 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 6: Parker on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. 390 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 2: The Jets, there was some speculation about who is going 391 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: to be named starting quarterback for the Jets, and it 392 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 2: was going to be to Rod Taylor. Justin Field is 393 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 2: going to be benched. And then Aaron Glenn was talking 394 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: yesterday with the media and they're asking him about the 395 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: quarterback situation in New York and it sounded like this quarterback, 396 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 2: we will have a quarterback on Sunday. 397 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 3: I will tell you that. 398 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 5: Sorry, I wouldn't want to give them a competitive advantage 399 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 5: when I have that opportunity, but we would have a quarterback. 400 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 3: Did you your listens wrong? So yeah. 401 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 4: To day to day yes, yes, what does he he 402 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 4: He's dealing a need, that's something that he had before. 403 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 3: So just you know who you're starting quarterback is going 404 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: to be. 405 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: You're just not announcing it. So it isn't like this 406 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 2: week as a competition. 407 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 3: Where you're gonna have you and I know the star 408 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 3: on quarter. 409 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 4: Movie, So it's going to be Tyrod Taylor. 410 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: Well, but he gives him a competitive advantage, according to 411 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn, by not announcing who the quarterback is. 412 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 4: Uh. 413 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 2: And then there was this report from Pro Football Talk 414 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: because it feels like the fingers are already starting to 415 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 2: point that. According to according to Pro Football Talk and 416 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: their sources, apparently there was a difference of opinion as 417 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: to who did and didn't want Aaron Rodgers as their quarterback. 418 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: GM Darren Moogie wanted to keep Rogers I and Aaron 419 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: Glenn wanted to move on. So we're already start arding 420 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: down the road of that was his decision, not mine, 421 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 2: and people are looking for life preservers. It feels like 422 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: with the Jets and they've been there what two months seasons? 423 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: What two months old? Less than two months? So away 424 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: we go with your New York Jets. Who's New York Jets? 425 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: Go ahead, cute, you got that you play. 426 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, like, this is a dysfunction 427 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 5: at its highest point. And unfortunately, like here's the hard 428 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 5: part about the job of Woody Johnson in this instance. 429 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 5: You know, when you when you're an owner, there's a 430 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 5: trickle down effect where when when adversity hits, and it 431 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,239 Speaker 5: always hits. Even in the best organizations, adversity strikes in 432 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 5: some fashion or form. You know, even if you want 433 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 5: to include the Kansas City Chiefs, you know they've had 434 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 5: a ton of success. So what is the adversity that 435 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 5: they face? Well, it's now dealing with you know, outside 436 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 5: of football, the fame that comes along with that. You know, 437 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 5: you've got a tight end who's dating and you know 438 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 5: Taylor Swift, You've got all these celebrities that are part 439 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 5: of it. You're gonna lose coaches or you're gonna have 440 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 5: turnover on your Staff're gonna have turnover on your roster 441 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 5: at times too, because you know, with this success comes 442 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 5: everyone feeling like they're better than they actually are, and 443 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 5: they want to get compensated and paid for it, and 444 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 5: the team probably can't keep all of them, so you know, 445 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 5: there's all sorts of things that come along with this. 446 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 5: On the other side is when you know you are 447 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 5: a team that just cannot put together any wins, you 448 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 5: have no success whatsoever. It's dealing with the fill you're in, 449 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 5: dealing with the constant you know, reminder of that. And 450 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 5: the hardest part is in either case, like you still 451 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 5: have to kind of stay the course, put on your earmuffs, 452 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 5: put on your blinders, and find a way of buying 453 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 5: into whoever it is that you made a decision to 454 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 5: hire as your head coach and you made a decision. 455 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 2: To hire as your general manager. 456 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 5: Like if you are a Woody Johnson and as bad 457 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 5: as this season looks and you fire Aaron Glenn, which 458 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 5: is what I believe this whole you know conversation's about 459 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 5: right now because ultimately after one year, when you don't 460 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 5: see the results that there's any progress, and we have 461 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 5: not seen anything from the Jets so far this year, 462 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 5: which with with mind you a talented roster, or at 463 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 5: least some talent on that roster. 464 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 2: You pointed the coach. 465 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 5: You say you had seventeen opportunities and had no point 466 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 5: that this team improve. That's where this is headed and 467 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 5: that's why you hear these reports because you've got a 468 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 5: general manager that wants to survive past a year. And 469 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 5: the hardest thing is for an owner like Woody Johnson, 470 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 5: is at some point you have to stay the course. 471 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 5: You have to give this coach a chance. He has 472 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 5: no chance if you're asking him to fix what has 473 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 5: been wrong for a long time since what two thousand 474 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 5: when he bought the team with a few instances here 475 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 5: and there where it wasn't the case. He can't fix it. 476 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 5: In a year. You signed, you know, a quarterback in 477 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 5: Justin Fields who you knew was a question mark in 478 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 5: ways and still needed some development. Like is any of 479 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 5: this surprising, Like I look at this and I just say, 480 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 5: if this is where this is going, Like if I'm 481 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 5: Woody Johnson right now, I walk down and I put 482 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 5: together a meeting between Aaron Glenn, Darren Moogie whoever else 483 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 5: that you feel like are the main decision makers to 484 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 5: say none of this BS is happening. We're not leaking stuff. 485 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 5: I'm sticking with you guys. You're safe this year, You're 486 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 5: safe next year, You're safe the next year, and then 487 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 5: we'll reevaluate. And so at least they have a timeline 488 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 5: instead of like allowing everything to kind of be up 489 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 5: in the air all the time and the owner to 490 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 5: sit there and allow this stuff to happen where you're 491 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 5: already creating fractures in a divide, like it just it's 492 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 5: a recipe for disaster. And he's the only one that 493 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 5: can fix this. There's no one else because it's only 494 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 5: gonna get worse if they keep losing games. It's only 495 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 5: gonna get worse. Everyone's gonna start looking for life rass 496 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 5: life jackets and they're jumping off the boat to save themselves. 497 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 4: When you hear about the Detroit lines right now, the 498 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 4: overarching message that you hear is a Dan Campbell message. 499 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 4: The culture that you see playing out with this team 500 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 4: is a Dan Campbell culture. Well, the reason why I 501 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 4: bring him up, Aaron Glenn comes from that coaching tree. 502 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,479 Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn came from Detroit to take over the New 503 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 4: York Jets. Dan Campbell in his first year. 504 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 3: If by. 505 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 4: Records we're talking about a one and done year, Dan 506 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 4: Campbell won three games his first year there, three games. 507 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 4: And so to me, when you're looking at situations that 508 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 4: you've already seen failure year and year out, year after 509 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 4: year after year, the disappointment of what's taking place, you 510 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 4: really should look at it at the to me, from 511 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 4: a lens of if we continue to keep changing the 512 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 4: people around, we are going to continue to get the 513 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 4: same results. You can't move in the definition of insanity 514 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 4: doing the same exact things thinking you're going to get 515 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 4: a different results. 516 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 2: You can't do it. 517 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 4: So with someone like whoever it is, whether it was 518 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 4: Robert Salah, whether it now is Aaron Glenn, if you're 519 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 4: the New York Jets, the ultimate challenge is is that 520 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 4: whoever it is that you hire, you have to give 521 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 4: them enough time to allow that culture to be built. 522 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 4: You gotta allow the trust and the belief all those 523 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 4: things that you know Q is mentioning in his in 524 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 4: his his points, those things have to be present, and 525 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 4: it has to have time. Like name me one seed 526 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 4: that grows the moment you planted, Like maybe there are 527 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 4: some I don't know, but I don't know of anything. 528 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 3: It takes time. 529 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 4: And not only does it take time, but imagine if 530 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 4: it's you're you're looking for this this planted seed to 531 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 4: bear fruit. 532 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 3: It takes time, it takes care, it. 533 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 4: Takes you know, a lot of people they talk to 534 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 4: their plants and stuff like that, like people that have 535 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 4: green thumbs. They'll tell you, like the whole entire process 536 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 4: of what it takes to raise healthy, healthy fruit and 537 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 4: produce bearing plants and trees and stuff like that. Sometimes 538 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 4: it takes years for a fruit to be produced. And 539 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 4: that's a lot like coaching. That's a lot like building 540 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 4: a winning culture and building a winning team. You can't 541 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 4: expect instinct grits if you want them to be good. 542 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 4: And some of them are really good. Though you put 543 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 4: a lot of butter and some sold on it. Some 544 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 4: people like sugar in their grits. But anyway, I'm just 545 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 4: saying it takes time, man, it takes time, and if 546 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 4: you're not. The thing about it is is that the 547 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 4: culture that's been created because I again, I. 548 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: Lived in it. I lived in. 549 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 4: Bad culture, I lived in arrogant like I'm good, like 550 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 4: I'm the best culture. 551 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 3: I lived in it. 552 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 4: And it goes through the whole entire fan base, it 553 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 4: goes it's everywhere. When you have that type of culture, 554 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 4: if it is not gutted out from the root of 555 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 4: the issue and rectified at the root, that culture still 556 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 4: continues to have a very very strong undercurrent. And that 557 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 4: undercurrent a lot of times can be worse than when 558 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 4: it's just right blatantly in your face, because then you're confused. 559 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, before I knew this was. 560 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 3: Bad because of X, Y and Z. 561 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 4: But when you act as though you have addressed it 562 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 4: and you you've you've rectified it and we're moving on 563 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 4: from it, but it's still there, then people get even 564 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 4: more confused because they can't even identify why things. 565 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 3: Aren't going right. 566 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 4: And then next thing you know, then it goes back 567 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 4: to being right back in your face. It's like a 568 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 4: vicious cycle that plays out in corrupt, corrosive bad, bad culture. 569 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 4: So if you don't give a coach an opportunity and 570 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 4: a fear opportunity, which a fear opportunity is removing yourself 571 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 4: from the situation. If you're saying you're hugging Aaron Glenn 572 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 4: and you trust Aaron Glenn and he's a former player, 573 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 4: and it's the quarterback that's the problem, and this and 574 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 4: that and the other, then get the hell out of 575 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 4: in front of the media. Stop talking to the media 576 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 4: about what's going on or what you think is the problem. 577 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 4: Remove yourself from having contact that way with the organization, 578 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 4: not just the coach and the player, because that's what 579 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 4: makes it horrible culture, is that you think it's just 580 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 4: leave the coach alone, just leave the team alone. But 581 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 4: it's messing with the people that work at the front desk, 582 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 4: it's messing with the people that are in sales, it's 583 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 4: messing with the people that are in pr it's messing 584 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 4: with the people that are in scouting. It's all of it. 585 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 4: And if you don't correct that and remove yourself from it, 586 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 4: where whatever it is that has been built through the 587 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 4: time is rectified and corrected and healed up, then you're 588 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,959 Speaker 4: going to continue to have the same exact results because 589 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 4: you have successfully created a culture you it just isn't 590 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 4: a winning one. 591 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 2: You mentioned you know, you got a planet and let 592 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 2: it grow like bad soil, good luck ain't happening. It's 593 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: not gonna happen. How many times? And the other thing 594 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: I was thinking about with the Jets, has there ever 595 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 2: been a time where you've heard the words, yeah, we're 596 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: going to tear it down and rebuild it, Like you 597 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: never really hear that with the Jets. It's just assumed, like, 598 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: which means the plan is we're going to be competitive 599 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 2: and this might be our year. But there's never a hey, look, 600 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: we all know what's going on here. We're looking towards 601 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: next year, like the Saints, like everybody knows the deal, 602 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 2: Like we know what's going on with the Saints, we 603 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 2: know how this whole thing is going to go. The 604 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 2: Jets almost give you this illusion that no, no, no, we're 605 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: a real franchise that should be reckoned with, like we 606 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 2: look at all this talent we've got, look at the 607 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: you know, we're signing Garrett Wilson to a deal, Sauce 608 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 2: Gardner gets a deal, Like, no, no, we're a real 609 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 2: franchise and they're the worst team in the league again, 610 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: literally every time, and there's one common denominator, it's Woody 611 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 2: Johnson the entire time. Nobody's going to turn that thing 612 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 2: around there with him as the owner, just doesn't feel 613 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 2: like it's gonna happen, no matter how spicy things get there. 614 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 615 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 616 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific. 617 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 2: It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox 618 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 2: Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. 619 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 2: You can listen to this show as always on the 620 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app and you can find us on hundreds of 621 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 2: affiliates all across the country. 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Yeah you 632 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: did there, We got it. 633 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 3: Keep the thing going. 634 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 5: I don't know one hundred percent strip of music. I 635 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 5: mean it's just a good time, you know that good times. 636 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 5: I told you that first one, first Poison concert ever 637 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 5: saw it was that Polaris Amphitheater. Uh. Somehow, I think 638 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 5: it was in sixth grade. Somehow my uncle got us, 639 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 5: got us in. We had like eight tickets, there were 640 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 5: like twelve of us. And he did this like thing 641 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 5: where he was like, you would take from his left 642 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 5: hand the ticket to his right hand as we were 643 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 5: passing through the gate, and he was just like just 644 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 5: keep shuffling forward, and so he'd be like one, two, three, four, 645 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 5: And I think there was some sleight of hand where 646 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 5: he like took the one from his left hand to 647 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 5: his right but then brought it back and somehow counting 648 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 5: and the ticket and this is obviously backed in the 649 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 5: days of paper tickets. The ticket guy was like what 650 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 5: And after a time and people kept shuffling, his head's 651 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 5: like trying to he's trying to look at the guys 652 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 5: going through and he's looking at the tickets and he's like, yeah, 653 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 5: all right, yeah, yeah, that's a big group. Yeah yeah, 654 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 5: like that, that's good. There you go, And and that 655 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 5: was how we got in. And as soon as I 656 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 5: found a spot, they had this big lawn up kind 657 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 5: of looking down the amphitheater. There was there was a 658 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,959 Speaker 5: mom who was completely topless and absolute hammers carrying one 659 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 5: kid running around chasing the other. 660 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 2: Couldn't have been more than four a yeah. 661 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 5: And I was like, as a sixth grade boy, I 662 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 5: was like, well, this is a wild place to be, 663 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 5: so I'm gonna keep following poison and uh yeah that 664 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 5: was started my love for the music as well as 665 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 5: the ambiance. 666 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 2: Have you seen my mom? Yeah, she's right over there 667 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 2: with the battleships on her speed right over there. That's her. 668 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 2: By the way, Brett Michaels met him in the kitchen here. 669 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: He was in studio for some reason doing one of 670 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 2: the other shows. Super nice guy, really really nice. 671 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 5: He's super super guy. He's a big Pittsburgh fan. 672 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 3: Yeah oh yeah, all right. 673 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 2: So, uh, from that poison to something that's the good 674 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 2: kind of poison. The one and only Albert Brier, We 675 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: bring you Albert Brier every single Thursday here on this show. 676 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 2: He's a senior NFL reporter, a lead content strategist at 677 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: the m m QB, and you can get him on 678 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 2: x at Albert Breer AB Good Thursday morning to you, Sarah. 679 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 7: Good morning guys. I feel like that song is a 680 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 7: song that plays when you're walking in, you know what 681 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 7: I mean, like when you're first walking in. 682 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 3: Uh, it's like, right, what is that poison? What establishment? Ab? 683 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 7: Those sorts of establishments? 684 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about. Ab It sounds 685 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 3: like you you know, I don't know. 686 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 7: There's one. There's one. There's one that Brady might be 687 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 7: familiar with from back in the day. I think it 688 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 7: was called Pure Platinum. 689 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 5: There was oh yeah, solid Platinum. We used to talk 690 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 5: about cahoots back in the day. They used to have 691 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 5: a great brunch or lunch buffet for for all those 692 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 5: in the Columbus, which I think it's shut down there, 693 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 5: but uh yeah, business lunch b y O B. 694 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 7: There were a few of those places too. I think 695 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 7: a Solid Gold I can't remember. There was one that 696 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 7: was like buyo B. Also that was interesting. 697 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 5: I thought, well, maybe per Platinum was I don't know, 698 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 5: but I mean this is all being told me secondhand. 699 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 7: So yeah, well yeah, it this all word of mouth. 700 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 2: Aby, We're talking about this earlier. You know, Aaron Glenn's 701 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 2: not quite sure. I think it's a competitive advantage to 702 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 2: not announce who the starter is going to be. There 703 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 2: was a report from Pro Football Talk that apparently Darren 704 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 2: Moogie wanted to keep Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Glenn was against it. 705 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 2: And it just feels like, you know, we're seven games 706 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 2: into the season, there's already fingers being pointed in different 707 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 2: directions different media outlets, Like what do you make of 708 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 2: the circus that is the Jets for yet another season? 709 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 7: I'm par for the course, you know, And I think 710 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 7: this is like to me and I think, what what's 711 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 7: what's interesting about it? Is like that place and we 712 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 7: talked about it last year. That place just needs, like 713 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 7: from a cultural standpoint, like a hard reset, right, like 714 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 7: and like it's difficult to get to where you want 715 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 7: to go when you're going through that, and ownership is 716 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 7: a really important piece of it. And like I I 717 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 7: actually like I kind of would say ownership is more 718 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 7: important when things are bad than when things are good, 719 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 7: Like when things are good, the owners should pretty much 720 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 7: stay out of the way when things are bad. I 721 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 7: think they become pretty important figures. And that to me, 722 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 7: like is one thing that's a little lost in the 723 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 7: Lions and what the Lions were able to accomplish under 724 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 7: Dan Campbell over the last four plus years is like, 725 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 7: this is the Lions four years ago and Aaron Glenn 726 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 7: was there, right, Like, so they started that season zho 727 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 7: to nine. They were oh, ten and one. Then they 728 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 7: show life at the end of the year, right, so 729 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 7: they go three and three, finished the year. There's a 730 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 7: little excitement over that, and then the next year they 731 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 7: start like one in six or one in seven. And 732 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 7: Sheila Ford had to come out and say something, had 733 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 7: to come out and talk to the media at one point, 734 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 7: and like she basically stood behind everybody in the building 735 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 7: and said, like, we trust in what we're doing. It's 736 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 7: going to turn like we believe in all the people 737 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 7: we put in place. She didn't talk about the football 738 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 7: decisions that they were making, just her belief in Dan 739 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 7: Campbell and Brad Holmes and all the other people there. 740 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 7: And you know, eventually, you know, we know what became 741 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 7: of that. And I just look at this and they're 742 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 7: only seven, but there's a big, big hole that they 743 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 7: had to dig out of coming into the year. And 744 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 7: you know, I just the comments that what he made 745 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 7: the other day don't really help, you know. I think 746 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 7: the better thing to do in this case is to 747 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 7: is to stand behind your guys and see if they 748 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 7: can dig you out of the hole. And it doesn't 749 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 7: look very good right now, and I don't think anybody 750 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 7: would say that it does. But you know, I think 751 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 7: that if you're ever gonna get anywhere, you're gonna have 752 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 7: to you're gonna have you're gonna have to stick with 753 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 7: something you know, and you're gonna have to show patients 754 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 7: and it's going to take time. And that's where the 755 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 7: Jets are right now. And you'd hate to see them 756 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 7: just completely. And I don't know whether or not Aaron 757 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 7: Glenn and Darren Moose you're gonna make it or not 758 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 7: as the coach or GM long term if you give 759 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 7: them a ton of rope. But I think after everything 760 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 7: you've been through, you all it yourself to you owe 761 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 7: to yourself if you're the owner to give them the 762 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 7: very best shot they they they can get to dig 763 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 7: you to dig your franchise. 764 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 4: Out of it, all right, I'll sounds sensible though, I'm sorry, Yeah, 765 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 4: I'm just saying that that sounds sensible, but that doesn't 766 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 4: happen that way, Like that's and there. 767 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 3: It sounds good, but yeah. 768 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 5: Albert lay money down right now? Is Aaron Glenn and 769 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 5: Darren Moogie both in their positions after the season? If 770 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 5: you had to bet. 771 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 7: And that that's the problem is I don't know, you 772 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 7: know what I mean, Like I I. 773 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 5: So then you're probably betting against like one of them 774 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,280 Speaker 5: getting clipped. 775 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 7: Basically, I don't think it's impossible. I mean, like, I 776 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 7: don't think I think everything's on the table. I don't 777 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 7: think it's I mean, everything's on the table with that franchise. 778 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 7: And that's sort of the problem, you know what I mean, Like, 779 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 7: and it's been the problem there forever is that everything 780 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 7: is constantly on the table, you know. 781 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 5: And so why doesn't Woody realize that, Like is he 782 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 5: not self aware. 783 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 2: Enough to understand that even the problem having like. 784 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 7: I mean it's even yeah, I mean it's even like 785 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 7: having the all right, so your team's own seven, right, 786 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 7: he owns I think it's like forty percent of Crystal 787 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 7: Palace the soccer team over in the UK. Right, It's 788 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 7: it's even like having the self awareness to not wear 789 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 7: a crystal palace hat when your team's own seven, you know, 790 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 7: walking into an owner's meeting, you know what I mean, 791 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 7: Like it's it's just stuff like that, like where it's like, huh, 792 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 7: that's interesting, you know what I mean, Like it's and 793 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 7: I don't know why this hasn't been fixed, but it's 794 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 7: been going on for twenty five years. This way, this 795 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 7: is the way it's been forever and ever, and you know, 796 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 7: I like I think in the end, like he wound 797 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 7: up and again, like I don't know if Robert Sola 798 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 7: and that group would have made it, but I mean 799 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 7: they fired solid when they were what two and three 800 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 7: with a very manageable schedule going forward, and the defense 801 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 7: was playing really well. And so you lose the guy 802 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 7: who is the architecture your defense and your head coach. 803 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 7: You're taking your defensive coordinator making him the head coach, 804 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 7: so you're stretching your defensive staff thin like and then 805 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 7: the whole thing sort of blows up. 806 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 3: You know. 807 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 7: It's just it's it's like it's what happens when you're 808 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 7: paying way too much attention to what the tabloids are saying, 809 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 7: what's being set on social media, the climate and the 810 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 7: media like all of that, and I just it's this 811 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 7: never ending cycle of that. You know, just because some 812 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 7: calumnists says that zero to five all your football people 813 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,720 Speaker 7: have no clue what they're doing doesn't make it true. 814 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 7: But you know, if you listen to enough of it, 815 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 7: you can become a convinced of it. And I think 816 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 7: that's sort of been the problem there for a long time. 817 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 2: Good Jamas, Aby, do you think that there's any concern 818 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 2: because we were talking about Thursday Night football coming up 819 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 2: later on and it's Chargers Vikings, Is there any concern 820 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 2: about JJ McCarthy at this point as far as what 821 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,399 Speaker 2: they've been able to get from him, which isn't much 822 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 2: due to health, but also when they have had him 823 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 2: on the field, it hadn't looked all that great outside 824 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 2: of one quarter against the Bears. 825 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think that this sort of illustrates, 826 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:46,240 Speaker 7: you know, and I think they've had ups and downs 827 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 7: with him, like where it really looks like it's coming 828 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 7: and then one thing or the other gets in the way, right, 829 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 7: whether it's injury or anything else. So you know, how 830 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 7: do you build a momentum, how do you sustain the momentum, 831 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 7: because that's what being an NFL coup quarterback is. The 832 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 7: seasons are long, you know, and there's a lot that 833 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 7: you have to fight through. And I think, you know, 834 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 7: I think JJ's got a lot of potentially came into 835 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 7: the league really young, you know. But like I, you know, 836 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 7: I think you can also judge the Vikings and their actions, 837 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 7: which you know, I can remember when the when the 838 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 7: Chiefs were, We're coming out of Patrick Mahomes rookie year, 839 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,919 Speaker 7: and how the sites that they were in getting rid 840 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 7: of and getting rid of Alex Smith, you know, like 841 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 7: it was the end of January that year. They had 842 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,760 Speaker 7: just been in the playoffs. Okay, we're trading Alex Smith, 843 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 7: We're clearing the decks. Patrick Mahomes is our guy. And 844 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 7: you know, the Vikings actions of late have been very 845 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 7: different from that, right, Like where in the off season 846 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 7: they offer you know, they offer Sam Donald the deal 847 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,720 Speaker 7: he winds up leaving. They offered Daniel Jones fifteen million 848 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,919 Speaker 7: guaranteed to come back, he winds up leaving, leaving. Both 849 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 7: those guys leave because they felt like there was a 850 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 7: better opportunity to be a multi year starter somewhere else. 851 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 7: I think both those guys probably made the right decision 852 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 7: based on the way that there are situations that played 853 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 7: out Sam and Seattle and DJ and and Indy, and 854 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 7: so then it's like, okay, like, well, like you know, 855 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 7: now we're going to go forward with JJ and we're 856 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,280 Speaker 7: gonna trade for Sam Howell and see how that goes. 857 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 7: And they gave them an opportunity to give them an 858 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 7: opportunity to get get JJ every rep in the off season, 859 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 7: and then at the end of the summer they wind 860 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 7: up signing signing Carson Wentz, and all of that is like, 861 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 7: we're not gonna We're not willing to over We're not 862 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 7: willing to throw our season overboard with a fourteen win 863 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,720 Speaker 7: team from a year ago, with all the veteran players 864 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 7: we have and the name of quarterback development, we're not 865 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 7: going to just you know, we're not gonna, We're not 866 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 7: gonna sacrifice a year in these guys' careers to ride 867 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 7: out the bumps with the young quarterback. And now, you know, like, 868 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 7: I think they've got a decision to make, you know, 869 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 7: so I don't think Carson Wentz has played great. That's 870 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 7: the other part of it. So you know, if JJ 871 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,280 Speaker 7: is not back in there when he's healthy, then obviously 872 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 7: being an indictment on him. But I think they will, 873 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 7: I think going back to him, and I think again, 874 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 7: if he can get some momentum going where you gain 875 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 7: some momentum, I think he can be a pretty good 876 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 7: quarterback this year. 877 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 5: Albert, I want to ask you the temperature of I 878 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 5: guess Steven Ross with Mike McDaniel, I feel like the 879 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,720 Speaker 5: Dolphins almost feels like every week we're waiting for something 880 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,800 Speaker 5: that to happen, you know, based on their performance, and 881 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 5: I know to a struggle to which hasn't helped. But 882 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 5: is that kind of the next head coaching potential vacancy 883 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 5: we should be monitoring. 884 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 7: Yes, yes, Like I think in that case, it's like 885 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 7: to me, there are two reasons to fire a head 886 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 7: coach this early in game, right The one the players 887 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 7: aren't responding to him the same way that they were before. 888 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 7: I think that is at least in play to a 889 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 7: degree right now. And then the second reason to do 890 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 7: it would be because there's somebody on your staff you 891 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 7: want to take a look at and get given audition 892 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,280 Speaker 7: to and I think that's the play also with Anthony 893 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 7: we Weaver as their defensive coordinator. So I think at 894 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,439 Speaker 7: some point over the course the next caught five six weeks, 895 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,240 Speaker 7: if things don't turn around, I absolutely think the idea 896 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 7: of them going to to Anthony Weavers in play. And 897 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,959 Speaker 7: you know, I think this really kind of goes back 898 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 7: to i'd say three years ago, two three years ago, 899 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 7: when when Tyreek and Jalen Ramsey and and all these 900 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 7: guys are on the team. They're they're being aggressive in 901 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 7: the way they're building, and you know, they really had 902 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 7: a culture there. It was permissive of the stars, like 903 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 7: the stars could kind of get away with whatever they wanted, 904 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 7: and that's fine when you're winning, you know. But then 905 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 7: at the end of twenty three I wound up driving 906 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 7: Vic Tangio out of there because Vic clash with the 907 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 7: star players, and the star players were freelancing and kind 908 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 7: of doing what they wanted on defense. And then you 909 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 7: come back last year and you're like, Okay, we're going 910 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 7: to try to run it back one more time with 911 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 7: this group, and it crumbled. And so you know, they 912 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 7: tried to emphasize culture, you know, going into this year, 913 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 7: but can you put that genie back in the bottle, 914 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,919 Speaker 7: you know, and so far it looks like they haven't 915 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 7: been able to. So I'll be interested to see what 916 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 7: it looks like, you know, this week, and and and 917 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 7: and going forward, coming off of what I thought was 918 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 7: a really really bad loss in Cleveland. 919 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 3: Abe. 920 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 4: That's it's not just those teams, not just the Jets, 921 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 4: It's not just the Dolphins. A team that it jumps 922 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 4: out at me. That's it's very interesting. And I know 923 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 4: the quick response will be well because they don't have 924 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, but the Ravens only have one win this season, 925 00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 4: and that, to me, it's funny. We hear so much 926 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 4: criticism and so much scrutiny. Go to Pittsburgh and is 927 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 4: it time to move on from Mike Tomlin. This wasn't 928 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 4: a good enough season, even though they made the playoffs, 929 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 4: and you hear so many things that are said about 930 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 4: what Mike Tomlin doesn't do. And the only reason why 931 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 4: I'm drawing the comparison is I think that Mike Tomlin 932 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 4: and Harball are very relatable in terms of what they've 933 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 4: been able to do career wise. But we never hear 934 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 4: these types of murmurs or whispers or conversations take place 935 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 4: with the Ravens, but they're one one team like that 936 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 4: is that does that become a conversation. 937 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,280 Speaker 7: Well, I think you did. You have it points serveing 938 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 7: a couple points from Harbaugh's and closer to the end 939 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 7: of his contract when we've heard some of those conversations 940 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 7: about whether or not it's time for everybody to move on. 941 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 7: I think that's natural, and that happens when you know 942 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 7: a which has been in one place for as long 943 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 7: as John Harbaugh has been there. I think I think 944 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 7: John Harbaugh's one year short of Tomlin, right, Like I 945 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 7: think Tomlin's in his nineteenth year in Pittsburgh and Harbaugh's 946 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 7: in his eighteenth and in Baltimore, which is an incredibly 947 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 7: long run for any head coach. I mean, I think 948 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 7: you got to give them, Lvar a chance to see 949 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 7: if you can dig himself out of this. So much 950 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 7: of it, like was related to injury, and they've been 951 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 7: beat up, whether you're talking about you know, Lamar obviously, 952 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 7: but also you know Ronnie Stanley missing time, ro Quand 953 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 7: Smith will come back this week. Ronnie Stanley's been banged up. 954 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 7: Like it's just I mean, they've been playing with a 955 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 7: hand tie behind their back. And if you look at 956 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 7: their schedule, right, and like I just you know, obviously 957 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 7: it's tough to do this, but you look at their 958 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 7: schedule because the Bears this week, if they can find 959 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 7: a way to beat the Bears this week, I think 960 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 7: it's possible that they're six and five on Thanksgiving Night 961 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,399 Speaker 7: against the Right and that becomes a pretty big game 962 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 7: if the Angles continue playing the way that they did 963 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 7: last Thursday. So I think there's a real opportunity for 964 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 7: the Ravens to come out of this and really get rolling. 965 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,879 Speaker 7: Their schedule is pretty soft over the next month, and 966 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 7: if like it looks like again they're starting to get 967 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 7: a little healthier, I think there's a real chance for 968 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 7: them to start rolling and put this conversation behind them. 969 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 7: But if they can't dig out of it, then, you know, 970 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 7: I certainly think there'll be some of that talk as 971 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:27,879 Speaker 7: we post the end of the year. 972 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 2: Albert, last one for me, the trade deadline right around 973 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 2: the corner. Have you heard any rumblings about a potential 974 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:36,840 Speaker 2: deal or two that could take place. 975 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say I would say, like there are 976 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,240 Speaker 7: a few teams you can circle here. Tennessee is certainly 977 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 7: one that I think a lot of people are going 978 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 7: to be paying attention to because obviously they've already fired 979 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 7: their coach, They're not going anywhere this year, So how 980 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 7: willing are they to trade off offensive pieces, you know, 981 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 7: because obviously it's going to affect the development of their 982 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 7: young quarterback. So I'm sure they'll get called on rid 983 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,360 Speaker 7: Ley and and and and uh and Tony Pollard and 984 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 7: guys like that. There's some guys defensively, although it's not 985 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 7: it's not a I'm not a great roster, obviously, there 986 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 7: are some names on defense to guys like Ard and 987 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 7: Key that could have some value. The Jets are another one. 988 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 7: There are a lot of young players that are coming 989 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 7: close to the end of their rookie deals. There guys 990 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 7: like Jermaine Johnson and I think you know would have 991 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,319 Speaker 7: listed some phone calls as well, you know, and then 992 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 7: you know Miami, the pass rushers that Miami has, those 993 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 7: would be two of the bigger names out there. The Saints, 994 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 7: I think our team you can look at like, I 995 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 7: think they'll probably extend Olave, but they'll get calls on 996 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 7: O Lave until they extend them. Supposed to be some 997 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,839 Speaker 7: of the names that I would look at. I think 998 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 7: there's always a lot of discussion, and hey, it's gonna 999 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 7: be it's gonna be different this year. I sort of 1000 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,359 Speaker 7: believe that one of I believe that when I see it, 1001 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 7: but got a couple of weeks ago, and I think, 1002 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 7: as much as anything, it's, you know, over next week 1003 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 7: or two about the bad teams continuing to play bad. 1004 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 7: If that happens, then the chances of a big tra 1005 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 7: of big trades definitely goes up. 1006 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 5: Albert. Will you be in Columbus for Ohio State Penn 1007 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:13,479 Speaker 5: State next week? 1008 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1009 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 7: I don't think so. I wish I could make it 1010 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 7: out there. I'm actually you know what, I'm where. I 1011 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 7: actually am going to be on that Saturday. So it's 1012 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 7: gonna be my son's eleventh birthday, and I believe we're 1013 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,919 Speaker 7: gonna be going to be taking him and a bunch 1014 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 7: of his football teammates to b C Notre Dame. So 1015 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 7: we'll be actually watching your alma. 1016 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:34,760 Speaker 2: Mater, not mine. 1017 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:35,760 Speaker 7: Huh. 1018 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 2: Well, hopefully you're not the mush for Notre Dame like 1019 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 2: you have been for Ohio State. 1020 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,319 Speaker 7: I mean, see, we'll see, I might I might bring 1021 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 7: some bad luck to you. Guys, we'll see what happened. 1022 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 5: You might you're trying to sabotage our season. 1023 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 4: Man. 1024 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 5: I mean, here's the thing is, I thought you'd want 1025 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:48,799 Speaker 5: to be able to be there so you could talk, 1026 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 5: you know, talk to LeVar at some point about that matchup. 1027 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 2: But I guess not. 1028 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, why I wish. I con are you gonna be 1029 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:56,880 Speaker 7: in Columbus? 1030 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,720 Speaker 4: I had plant on it, and then those plans changed. 1031 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 4: They could change again. 1032 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 5: Kind of a fair weather fan. If you're asking me, 1033 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 5: I'm just saying you should support your team. I mean, 1034 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,439 Speaker 5: it would be my chance to see you var, it'd 1035 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 5: be nice to hang out. 1036 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're going. 1037 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 4: You know, the last time we did that, we we 1038 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,840 Speaker 4: lost when I showed up and I had the gout foot, And. 1039 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 5: That's actually happened every time you've we've got to put 1040 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:23,800 Speaker 5: a game together. 1041 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,280 Speaker 3: Yeah we've lost, which means it was it was my fault. 1042 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm the. 1043 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 3: Mush it's the big game's fault. 1044 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 5: Actually, I'm trying to think. 1045 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 2: If I've seen many Penn State wins, that's. 1046 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:36,959 Speaker 3: What I'm saying. 1047 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,840 Speaker 4: Every game was a big game that you've covered, probably 1048 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,399 Speaker 4: have not seen us win well, even like. 1049 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 5: The Iowa Penn State game. Member they win, you put 1050 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 5: that was a Clifford got hurt. They put in the 1051 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 5: backup arm stiff arm. The shorty was hitting towards a 1052 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,439 Speaker 5: victory that day. And then we did have a great 1053 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 5: fight out. We had a great Friday. 1054 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 3: We definitely did. 1055 00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 5: We had a good time. 1056 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 3: We did. We did start. 1057 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 7: Is backing behind any candidate for the job. 1058 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 2: Yet we've tried. 1059 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 5: He's been very tight lipped about it. I've been trying 1060 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,360 Speaker 5: to you know, why I pushed out there, Albert and 1061 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 5: this is like, I don't know why this guy doesn't 1062 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 5: get more talked about. Is Jeff Munkin at Army. You know, 1063 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 5: people are like, oh, he's a he's an option guy. 1064 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,279 Speaker 5: It's like, well, no, he's running that because they have 1065 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 5: to run that to be competitive. Like if he went 1066 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 5: to Penn State, if he went to another school, he. 1067 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,280 Speaker 2: Would run a normal offense like everyone else. 1068 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 5: But like they won twelve games a year ago, you know, yeah, 1069 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,280 Speaker 5: I mean they've literally become like a very consistent winning program. 1070 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 5: When you know, it's funny like Matt Rule, you know, 1071 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 5: in one of his top twenty five wins that year 1072 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,920 Speaker 5: at Temple is best year. I'm pretty sure Army beat them. 1073 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 5: Like if you if you go back and look through 1074 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 5: the history of some of the guys, these other guys 1075 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,879 Speaker 5: who've got powerful jobs, it's like, yeah, yeah, they lost 1076 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 5: Army that year, and you're like, well, why are we 1077 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 5: hiring that guy? So it doesn't make any sense to me. 1078 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 5: If like, if you're looking for a program builder, someone 1079 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,799 Speaker 5: who obviously knows how to lead, and especially like young 1080 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 5: men who are going to Army or out there West Point, 1081 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 5: but also just like scheme, creative, innovative. I mean, he's 1082 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 5: working with nothing in regards to nil and those are 1083 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 5: the results. Like you can't you can't give him. 1084 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 7: A shot, right, I guess to question, I guess the 1085 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,840 Speaker 7: question would be then and then I agree with everything 1086 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,160 Speaker 7: he said and like being able to win with you know, 1087 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 7: it's like sort of the Brad Stevens thing, right, Like 1088 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 7: Brad Stevens worked in the NBA because at Butler he 1089 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,880 Speaker 7: always had to win with less, right Like, so that 1090 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:39,440 Speaker 7: actually translated right over. The only question I would have 1091 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 7: is like his lack of experience swimming in those waters 1092 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,280 Speaker 7: where you have to raise money and you have to 1093 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 7: do the nil thing. I wonder if that would like 1094 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 7: with Lauren, I actually don't know, you know what I mean, Like, 1095 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 7: I completely. 1096 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 3: That's that one. 1097 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 5: But like, you know, right, But here's the thing I'd 1098 00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,359 Speaker 5: always say about like that to people. It's like, yeah, 1099 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 5: I know how to play quarterback in Notre Dame until 1100 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,000 Speaker 5: I got there, right, we figured that out like that 1101 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,760 Speaker 5: that would be my rebuttal. It's like Jeff Monkin figured 1102 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 5: out how to make Army successful. I don't know. I'm 1103 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 5: betting on him. I think he'll figure it out. Like, 1104 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,919 Speaker 5: let's not give it to another coach who's proven that 1105 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,560 Speaker 5: he's either got a ceiling or he hasn't been been 1106 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,319 Speaker 5: able to do it. Why not give it to a 1107 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 5: guy who like has been able to do it with less, 1108 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 5: Like I feel like that guy's more resourceful. That guy's 1109 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:24,960 Speaker 5: going to be the type of guy that can actually 1110 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,359 Speaker 5: build up a program if he's already working with nothing 1111 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 5: and you give him resources. Yeah, I think he'll. 1112 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,040 Speaker 7: Figure it out, right, I still you think it's gonna. 1113 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 5: Be rolled though, Oh no, I'm just I'm just throwing 1114 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 5: it out because a lot of people have reported that 1115 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,879 Speaker 5: I'm not. You know, LeVar obviously has a better insight 1116 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:41,400 Speaker 5: into all that. 1117 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:46,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, We've tried, tried everything. I won't answer 1118 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 2: any questions. 1119 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,879 Speaker 5: Every time there, every time I asked him a question, 1120 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:54,240 Speaker 5: he just goes that's all he does. He literally farts 1121 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,760 Speaker 5: into his microphone and I'm like, all right, thanks many, 1122 00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:58,360 Speaker 5: appreciate that. 1123 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 2: AB appreciate it. Enjoy the bye week for Ohio State. 1124 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 2: We'll do it again next week, all right, I think 1125 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,480 Speaker 2: that there he is. Albert Breers, Senior, NFL reported with 1126 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 2: content next week at Albert Breer. No, you just call 1127 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,400 Speaker 2: him next week saying this week, saying this week, and 1128 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 2: then he hold do it again next week