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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody welcome in an active and a very successful Sunday.
Speaker 1: I was five and zero in the Blazing five four
Speaker 1: and one last week, so dreadful start to the year.
Speaker 1: But get up more information, get a better feel for
Speaker 1: the league. I didn't think it was a great week
Speaker 1: for lines, but you know what you get hot, you
Speaker 1: take it. I'll have a stinker here coming up in
Speaker 1: no time. My first takeaway is watching Philadelphia. I still
Speaker 1: don't think Philadelphia is playing as well as they're capable
Speaker 1: of playing. But if you watched every snap of that
Speaker 1: Rams game, or most of them, and I did, that
Speaker 1: was one of the more physically dominating performances I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: They had over four hundred and fifty yards. They had
Speaker 1: a thirty eight to twenty two minute time of possession edge,
Speaker 1: twenty eight first downs to seventeen. They were impeccable on
Speaker 1: third down. And the score is not even remotely indicative
Speaker 1: of what the game was like. Philadelphia just smushed and
Speaker 1: pounded and buried and punished the Rams for three and
Speaker 1: a half hours. You know, Cooper cup got some nice
Speaker 1: catches early, but McVeigh is a great coach. You have
Speaker 1: some really nice players for the Rams. They're young. But
Speaker 1: this is really what separates to me Philadelphia from everybody
Speaker 1: except the forty nine ers in football. A Buffalo can
Speaker 1: beat you, soak in Kansas City. So can Cincinnati. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of teams that can beat you. The two
Speaker 1: teams last year, San Francisco teams the following week after
Speaker 1: playing the Niners. I think every team the following week lost.
Speaker 1: They don't beat you, they punish you, They hurt you.
Speaker 1: I feel the same way with Philadelphia, and I don't
Speaker 1: even think they're clicking. But between AJ Brown and Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts and the dominating offensive line, they just get yards
Speaker 1: when they need it. They have no personnel shortcomings. They
Speaker 1: can do virtually anything they want to do. That doesn't
Speaker 1: mean they always do it well. You know, a well
Speaker 1: coached team will do well what they're personnel allows them
Speaker 1: to do well. You know they're shortcomings. I'll get to
Speaker 1: the Jets in a second. They do that, they do
Speaker 1: well what they can do with their personnel. But Philadelphia
Speaker 1: there's everything. They have a quarterback that can throw and
Speaker 1: can move. They can play power football, they can go
Speaker 1: over the top. They get a great pass rush. On
Speaker 1: the other end, you know, their secondary may not be
Speaker 1: as good as it was in previous years. But you know,
Speaker 1: the NFC, the team that you're concerned about San Francisco's
Speaker 1: got brock perty or Dallas has dak. You don't feel
Speaker 1: like you know your B B plus quarterbacks are going
Speaker 1: to pick you apart because of the pass rush you create.
Speaker 1: So Philadelphia is such an impressive organization and they do
Speaker 1: what very few teams do in the NFL. They pivot
Speaker 1: a lot, and they remain successful. Bill Belichick can't pivot
Speaker 1: off Brady. Patriots are a clown show. They can't pivot once.
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's pivoted four times in Seattle. Philadelphia pivoted off
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. They pivoted off Nick Foles. They just keep changing.
Speaker 1: Pivoted off Chip Kelly. This team is stacked. Now, you
Speaker 1: know the offensive line, they got some older players Kelsey
Speaker 1: the center, but you know they've drafted well up front
Speaker 1: as well. So I just don't think Philadelphia has any shortcomings.
Speaker 1: I think they can match up with anybody in the
Speaker 1: league and can go toe to toe with anybody. I mean,
Speaker 1: think about this. Have they played a great game yet? Nope,
Speaker 1: They're five and zero. That's I mean, Buffalo's had some
Speaker 1: great games and been blaw Today they were blah and
Speaker 1: they lost. Right. That's the way it works in the
Speaker 1: league when you don't play well. Last year, the Chiefs
Speaker 1: super Bowl champs, lost with the Colts went to overtime
Speaker 1: with the bad Houston team. Generally, you don't play well,
Speaker 1: you don't win. Not the case with Philadelphia. So a
Speaker 1: super impressive, physically punishing win over the Rams. The score
Speaker 1: is not indicative of what it looked like. Let's go
Speaker 1: back to what I said a second ago. Jet fans
Speaker 1: may complain about their team, but you can tell they're
Speaker 1: well coached because they do well what they're allowed to
Speaker 1: do well based on their personnel. They can run the football.
Speaker 1: They have good backs, and I think they have a
Speaker 1: pretty good run blocking o line. They're not a fireworks
Speaker 1: show in the perimeter. They have one really big time receiver,
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson. That's it. So they're not an aerial circus.
Speaker 1: They've got good corners, they have a pass rush, they're physical,
Speaker 1: they play with great passion. So the Jets do as
Speaker 1: they beat the Broncos. They do what their personnel allows
Speaker 1: them to do. They need to go get another wide receiver.
Speaker 1: When Aaron Rodgers comes back and Zack Wilson's the backup,
Speaker 1: they should be better at quarterback. I would address the
Speaker 1: offensive line again, but they're not that far away. I mean,
Speaker 1: if Aaron stays healthy. You know, they do a lot
Speaker 1: of things very well. Denver's another story. They don't do
Speaker 1: anything particularly well. Russell Wilson, you know, he's better than
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. But you know key fumble late late in
Speaker 1: the third quarter, he had sixty six yards passing. It
Speaker 1: was underneath stuff. So I think the Broncos, even though
Speaker 1: they have I think some pretty good personnel in the
Speaker 1: offensive line, run games hit and miss mostly miss. Even
Speaker 1: though they have some people in the secondary I like
Speaker 1: their secondary is okay, so they're disjointed right now. Jets
Speaker 1: Denver was an ugly football game, but if you're a
Speaker 1: Jets fan, you have to feel like we do some
Speaker 1: things well. I'm not sure what Denver does well. And
Speaker 1: I think Denver's got some good personnel now, whereas the
Speaker 1: Jets good personnel is primarily on one side of the ball,
Speaker 1: which is why they're a better defensive team than an
Speaker 1: offensive team. You know, the Broncos personnel is kind of
Speaker 1: spread around, but they're going to have major issues here.
Speaker 1: There's so much pressure in the Broncos organization. Sean Payton's contract,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's contract. It doesn't matter if Russell has proved
Speaker 1: that he isn't washed, he'd better not be. For what
Speaker 1: they're paying him and the pressure on him. He's got
Speaker 1: to be excellent. He has to be an a quarterback.
Speaker 1: That's an a quarterback contract. Right now. He's playing at
Speaker 1: a B minus level C plus. That's what it is.
Speaker 1: So people say, well, he's not the problem, Well he's
Speaker 1: not the solution. I'm not really interested in pointing fingers
Speaker 1: on who the problem is. What's the solution, or everybody
Speaker 1: gets fired Russell right now is not good enough to
Speaker 1: be the solution. Who the problem is? Who cares you
Speaker 1: can't win football games? And I think the personality differences
Speaker 1: between Sean Payton, who's super intense, and Russell Wilson, who's
Speaker 1: more diplomatic. I think that rub will be interesting to
Speaker 1: say the least, to watch. You also have new owners.
Speaker 1: They didn't spend all this money to lose. I think
Speaker 1: this could be just a very toxic mess by the
Speaker 1: time we get to Thanksgiving, and Sean Payton's going to
Speaker 1: win that battle. You know. I think Denver and I
Speaker 1: think you have to think about this. We have an
Speaker 1: incredible college quarterback class. I think we have to be
Speaker 1: honest about it. I think Denver, if they're an opportunity,
Speaker 1: even though they have issues on the defensive side. You know,
Speaker 1: Drake May, Michael Pennix, bow Nix, don't you have to
Speaker 1: take a look. I think you have to take a look.
Speaker 1: You know, Let's say Denver finishes with five wins, and
Speaker 1: I'm you know, today, I'm not sure they get there
Speaker 1: five or six wins. That's a top eight draft pick.
Speaker 1: I would imagine if Drake May or Michael Pennix was
Speaker 1: available Caleb Williams was not available, you'd have to look
Speaker 1: at it the only way to get out of that
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson deal. And again, he's not the problem, but
Speaker 1: he's not good enough right now to be the solution.
Speaker 1: Or maybe it's just too many things that have been
Speaker 1: asked of Sean Payton and they just they don't have
Speaker 1: the personnel on the defensive side. But I'd feel good
Speaker 1: if I was a Jets fan today because I can
Speaker 1: do I do well what I have the personnel to
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Speaker 1: They didn't give up draft capital to get Mac Jones
Speaker 1: like San Francisco did to get Trey Lance. They just
Speaker 1: waited and he fell into their lap. And we all
Speaker 1: kind of knew what Mac was coming out of college.
Speaker 1: Low ceiling, high floor. We thought bright kid accurate had
Speaker 1: a very good rookie year. He's regressed, and I think
Speaker 1: one of the things that hurts him is they got
Speaker 1: completely destroyed at Foxborough back to back weeks, getting destroyed
Speaker 1: at Dallas now at home against the Saints, is that
Speaker 1: he has no allies in the building. He's pissed off coaches,
Speaker 1: he's ticked off teammates. I've been told he you know,
Speaker 1: he can bristle at times at being coached really really hard,
Speaker 1: which Belichick, I don't think you ever appreciated that. Brady love
Speaker 1: to be coach hard most players. Great players do. Insecure
Speaker 1: players don't max regressed. The longer he's around the building,
Speaker 1: the more liabilities that surface. But the good news is
Speaker 1: for New England, they're bad, and they're gonna have a
Speaker 1: top ten pick and they have to go get a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean, again, Jared Goff isn't highly mobile, but he's
Speaker 1: a beautiful thrower of the football. He's six two and
Speaker 1: a half six ' three. You know, for all the
Speaker 1: punishment he took at Callan his NFL career so far,
Speaker 1: he didn't get hurt. He's always available. Mac doesn't give
Speaker 1: you anything. I mean, Mac doesn't give you any juice,
Speaker 1: any special. Doesn't have the right size, mobility, temperament. You know,
Speaker 1: one of the things impressive about c. J. Stroud, it's
Speaker 1: the temperament. It's at the podium, it's the temperament. Is
Speaker 1: he liked in the room And people talk about that
Speaker 1: all the time. Jordan Palmer always talks about it. If you're
Speaker 1: liked in the room, nobody cares outside the building. I
Speaker 1: don't think mac Jones is liked in the room. I
Speaker 1: mean it's pretty well documented and reported. The coaches were
Speaker 1: furious last year with him when he went outside the
Speaker 1: building for advice, all the cheap shots on players. I
Speaker 1: was told that that didn't sit well with a couple
Speaker 1: of veteran players on the offense. And you know, nobody's
Speaker 1: there to support him when he hits Sauce Gardner. Nobody
Speaker 1: raced in the Patriot locker room spoke out to support him.
Speaker 1: So where are the allies at When you're struggling at
Speaker 1: any company in any industry, find the helpers, find the friends,
Speaker 1: find the allies. That's why be nice to people, be nice, lubricate,
Speaker 1: don't agitate. Mac Jones hasn't done that, And they're going
Speaker 1: to have draft a quarterback because I mean between the
Speaker 1: offense in Miami, Aaron Rodgers comes back, Josh Allen, you
Speaker 1: know what it is interesting? We always figured Brady was
Speaker 1: more important than Belichick. But for years and years, you know,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of people saying Brady's a quarterback
Speaker 1: and Belichick's a genius. New England now is a dumb
Speaker 1: football team. They do what bad teams do in opportune penalties, turnovers.
Speaker 1: They're just a bad football team. And I also think
Speaker 1: Belichick's a classic example of you know, anytime anybody bristles
Speaker 1: at the current situation, he says, you know, we've we've
Speaker 1: done pretty well around here. Nobody would deny that, formally
Speaker 1: done very well around here. They have to draft a quarterback.
Speaker 1: And I said this two years It sounded crazy two
Speaker 1: years ago when I said it. But I don't know
Speaker 1: what to do with Belichick if he's not willing to
Speaker 1: give up personnel. He doesn't draft well. I mean they
Speaker 1: drafted two kickers and three guards and last year's draft
Speaker 1: and then the slowest offense in the league. Now again,
Speaker 1: Judon's injury, Christian Gonzal's injury. They'd be a much more
Speaker 1: competitive team with those guys healthy. But you got to
Speaker 1: get Belichick out of personnel. And Andy Reid got run
Speaker 1: out of Philadelphia. And Andy Reid right now is the
Speaker 1: best coach in the NFL. You know, again, it'd be
Speaker 1: one thing to fire Belichick a year or two after
Speaker 1: Brady left, but this is another disaster. He appears to
Speaker 1: be a rigid personality, meaning he's going to do it
Speaker 1: his way or the highway. I think you have to
Speaker 1: consider having a long talk with Belichick. I know the
Speaker 1: Don Schuler record is close all time wins. I think
Speaker 1: in the offseason you have to have a long talk
Speaker 1: with him. You know, when it comes to these Thursday
Speaker 1: games or these London or overseas games, it always feels
Speaker 1: like one team is just off. One team doesn't show up,
Speaker 1: they don't get enough rest. It was the Commanders on
Speaker 1: Thursday against the Bears. It was the Bills today against
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. First of all, the Jaguars are healthier. They
Speaker 1: it was their second straight game there. They were more comfortable.
Speaker 1: They were choppy early in the season. But as Greg
Speaker 1: Cosell had said, Trevor Lawrence had been playing very well.
Speaker 1: Even Calvin Ridley, his top receivers, had had a case
Speaker 1: of the drops. He made some slick throws today. The
Speaker 1: Jags were picked up ten first downs on third down,
Speaker 1: they were the better team four hundred and seventy four
Speaker 1: yards of total offense. Some of that is Buffalo now
Speaker 1: has lost our top corner Milano, their top linebacker. They
Speaker 1: got banged up, They had a one of their pass
Speaker 1: rushers got banged up. You know, Trevor Lawrence is twenty
Speaker 1: five to thirty seven, three hundred and fifteen yards. He
Speaker 1: was slinging it today. And that's the thing when you
Speaker 1: watch a Trevor Lawrence or a Josh Allen. But let's
Speaker 1: talk Trevor Lawrence because he was humming today against Buffalo,
Speaker 1: and it's not the end of the world. Buffalo has
Speaker 1: been a hot, cold team there. As I always say
Speaker 1: that the Mike Tyson of the NFL big knockouts or
Speaker 1: they can look really sloppy and ugly, and Buffalo coming
Speaker 1: off that dramatic win at home, goes overseas and they
Speaker 1: just looked out of sink. Then the injury started to
Speaker 1: pile up. But when you look at Trevor Lawrence and
Speaker 1: you watch his size six five and a half six six,
Speaker 1: he can sling it, he can move well. Compare Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson to that, you know, or Zach Wilson to that,
Speaker 1: or the countless number of sort of C B minus
Speaker 1: D quarterbacks in this league. Trevor Lawrence is really good.
Speaker 1: This is a losing franchise that we've had doubts about forever.
Speaker 1: But when you watch that game today, I mean, he
Speaker 1: makes throws so effortlessly and so accurately. And by the way,
Speaker 1: it's all great quarterbacks get into ruts. Caleb Williams at
Speaker 1: USC and in the first half got into a rout
Speaker 1: last night against Arizona, three or four throws open receivers
Speaker 1: behind them. It happens. Maholmes will go into the weeds
Speaker 1: sometimes and Andy Reid a couple of weeks later mechanically
Speaker 1: brings him back. It happens. Brady didn't because he was
Speaker 1: so obsessed with it. But most quarterbacks, especially the hyper
Speaker 1: athletic ones that move around a lot, they've got a
Speaker 1: lot of gifts. Sometimes they go mechanically into the weeds
Speaker 1: and misthrows, and Trevor Lawrence can do that, But when
Speaker 1: you're watching him sling it, he is he makes it
Speaker 1: look really easy. I remember not comparing him to Michael Jordan,
Speaker 1: but I remember years ago watching Michael Jordan against Phoenix
Speaker 1: in the NBA Finals, and I was on the couch
Speaker 1: with a friend and I said, you know, he's not
Speaker 1: the best shooter, he's not the strongest player. He's not
Speaker 1: the best ball handler or the best passer. But I
Speaker 1: told a friend, I said, he made it look so easy.
Speaker 1: He's just six six, he's you know, he's just a
Speaker 1: six to six guy. Everything looked easy to Michael. Now
Speaker 1: we know it's not. But that's what great players. Caleb
Speaker 1: Williams does stuff. You're like, what, whether it's a great
Speaker 1: golfer a great quarterback. There are times Trevor Lawrence and
Speaker 1: he makes mistakes like everybody, but he will just let
Speaker 1: it rip downfield and it is a laser and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why he was the number one high school player,
Speaker 1: the number one college player. A lot of his struggles
Speaker 1: early were his teammates. It's not an excuse, it was
Speaker 1: his teammates. And I think Buffalo is going to be fine.
Speaker 1: I think this is what Buffalo is. I would be
Speaker 1: concerned a little bit there, banged up defensively, but I
Speaker 1: don't question one of the things I saw on the sideline,
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs kind of blew a fuse and Josh Allen
Speaker 1: was looking at him. That went viral. Stefan is is
Speaker 1: very emotional guy, and in losses, that's just kind of
Speaker 1: part of his makeup. It happens, It's happened with the
Speaker 1: receivers my entire life. I don't I think it's fine
Speaker 1: as long as Buffalo is winning. But you know Buffalo
Speaker 1: so far in the season, you know, they go overseas,
Speaker 1: look awful, looked awful against the Jets, great against Miami,
Speaker 1: great against Washington. You get a little everything with Buffalo.
Speaker 1: They are very They're a very temperamental team, highly emotional.
Speaker 1: That's the way they play, That's the way Stefan Diggs
Speaker 1: is as a player. So I think that's just that's
Speaker 1: kind of what they are. They're not consistent, they're just
Speaker 1: they're an avalanche. When they're playing well, they just bury you.
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Speaker 1: out the volume. So obviously when you have a quarterback,
Speaker 1: you think about what's their salary. I mean, if Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson was a seventh round pick, everything in Denver would
Speaker 1: feel completely different than his five year contract kicking in
Speaker 1: next year. Right, So if you consider contract age, mobility, accuracy, talent,
Speaker 1: and I said today, brock Purty or Dak Prescott, it's
Speaker 1: not even close. I would take brock Purty, It's not
Speaker 1: even close. Dak now is not mobile, He's had too
Speaker 1: many lower extremity injuries. Dak's a pocket thrower, but he
Speaker 1: was never a great pocket passer like Russell Wilson. Although
Speaker 1: Russell throws a pretty your ball, Russell needs mobility to
Speaker 1: be Russell Wilson. A big part of Dak was that
Speaker 1: he could move. He no longer moves, So I get
Speaker 1: a below average pocket thrower who's super expensive. Brock Purty
Speaker 1: makes way too many good throws to be a system guy.
Speaker 1: Dude hitting things down the middle tonight. And it sounds crazy,
Speaker 1: but you have to consider what you pay players. Once
Speaker 1: you pay guys Burrow Mahomes, Herbert Allen Lamar, well, those
Speaker 1: are special talents. Dak's got a special contract. He's an
Speaker 1: average pocket guy. Look at that lineup for the Niners.
Speaker 1: If you, for instance, John if Brock made what Dak made,
Speaker 1: you couldn't have Fred Warner couldn't You couldn't have been
Speaker 1: able to get Christian McCaffrey. You probably would have to
Speaker 1: get rid of one of your d linemen. It's not
Speaker 1: quite the same team, right, it's a good team, it's
Speaker 1: not quite team Well.
Speaker 3: When the forty nine Ers made the trade for Trey Lance,
Speaker 3: you know, the logic of trying to swing for the
Speaker 3: fences and get a star was in the right place.
Speaker 3: But a driving force was they wanted that rookie quarterback contract.
Speaker 3: And my big thing is the rookie quarterback contract isn't
Speaker 3: that relevant when the guy can't play. Part of what
Speaker 3: made Dak such a good draft choice back in the
Speaker 3: day was he was a.
Speaker 4: Solid player, right, solid Kirk.
Speaker 3: Cousins back in the day. And then obviously we've seen
Speaker 3: in recent memory some of the star quarterbacks drafted. Brock
Speaker 3: Purty won. He's really good. I mean, you just watch,
Speaker 3: if you just watch NFL football, like that guy's really good.
Speaker 1: John Kyle Shanahan didn't make Blaine Gabbert or Trey Lance
Speaker 1: great players. Not all quarterbacks work with Kyle right, like Brock,
Speaker 1: Brock's really good.
Speaker 3: Well, listen, and the other thing about Brock you just
Speaker 3: hit on with Dak Prescott. There were a couple of
Speaker 3: plays a night. It's like Dak forgot that Dray Greenlaw
Speaker 3: and Fred Warner are the best linebacking duo in the league.
Speaker 3: Their play speed is elite for their position. And he
Speaker 3: rolled out a couple of times. It's like, Dak, what
Speaker 3: are you doing? You know, get rid of the ball.
Speaker 3: If you're not gonna be the athlete that you once
Speaker 3: were after the ankle injury, you can't scramble away from
Speaker 3: these guys, can't. And then Perdy the underrated part about
Speaker 3: his game because I remember I listen, I'd be lying
Speaker 3: if I said I watched that much Iowa State football.
Speaker 3: But the one thing that was immediate when he started playing,
Speaker 3: and the biggest difference between him and Jimmy, and they
Speaker 3: obviously won a ton of games with Jimmy, yeah, was
Speaker 3: Jimmy's lack of mobility after the ACL injury and his
Speaker 3: just ability to play make outside of the pocket. When
Speaker 3: you watch Perdy scramble, you're confident that something good is
Speaker 3: gonna happen. How about the touch that he has on
Speaker 3: the move. When you're playing with this much talent. Everyone's like, well,
Speaker 3: he's playing with a lot of talent. Well, you ain't
Speaker 3: got to get him the ball. How many players if
Speaker 3: we've seen play with other good players, Larry Fitzgerald can
Speaker 3: tell you played with a million quarterbacks, couldn't get him
Speaker 3: the rock over the years. This guy, you just watch him.
Speaker 3: Obviously he's a little smaller, but listen, I mean his
Speaker 3: this fucking kid can play. I mean the bottom.
Speaker 1: Line, yeah, I mean, and again it's Mark Brunel was
Speaker 1: a late pick, Brady, Kurt Warner, Romo. It's not shocking.
Speaker 1: We've seen guys undrafted and I think there's a ceiling,
Speaker 1: but it's not a Mac Jones ceiling. He moves really well,
Speaker 1: and they don't ask him to throw a ton of
Speaker 1: deep balls. I mean, they just don't this. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just it's funny, like the Dak's rookie year in
Speaker 1: the first couple of years. You know, he got an
Speaker 1: MVP voter to his first year in the league, and
Speaker 1: so much of that was you weren't paying Dak anything.
Speaker 1: So they had the O line, they had Zeke. It
Speaker 1: was an all star team, even their defense. I went
Speaker 1: and looked it up the other day. Was top five
Speaker 1: in the league, Dallas right now, because once you pay
Speaker 1: that quarterback. I mean, Kansas City's roster is not great. Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: there's holes in that thing. Everybody's roster has a hole
Speaker 1: except San Francisco.
Speaker 4: I mean, so I I think.
Speaker 3: I think also when you take a core to back high,
Speaker 3: you like a specific guy and you get aggressive, from
Speaker 3: Josh Allen to Mahomes to when the Texans drafted Deshaun
Speaker 3: Watson to Baker Mayfield, like you like that guy. To me,
Speaker 3: when you get a guy in the third, fourth and beyond,
Speaker 3: there's an element of luck right at quarterback because teams
Speaker 3: are passing on the guy.
Speaker 4: It's easy to look back. God, look how good perty is.
Speaker 3: But at the time, I mean, he was one spot
Speaker 3: away from being an undrafted free agent. But you cannot
Speaker 3: value And I think it's pretty clear guys like him.
Speaker 3: You and I have talked about it. When you go
Speaker 3: to Alabama or Georgia, you have such an advantage on
Speaker 3: a weekly basis, right, you really do. Hell, we'll probably
Speaker 3: talk about Kleb a little bit later. I think he's
Speaker 3: benefiting a lot, or at least scouts are gonna benefit
Speaker 3: watching him play. It's not as easy this year, Like
Speaker 3: he has to make shit happen. His team has a
Speaker 3: huge advantage. Well perty his entire career, we're going into
Speaker 3: games either as underdogs or having less talent than their opponents.
Speaker 3: So you have to learn how to play. So now
Speaker 3: you watch him, well, he clearly he knows how to play,
Speaker 3: and now he has the talent around him, and it's
Speaker 3: bombs away. I mean they feel, I mean clearly like
Speaker 3: one of the better teams we've seen in terms of
Speaker 3: the way they start and just how the level in
Speaker 3: which they're playing. In recent memory in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Oh I think honestly, again, if you had even a
Speaker 1: good quarterback Kirk Cousins, you could not have the same roster.
Speaker 1: You would not get both of those linebackers, you know,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't. You would not have been able to acquire
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. Well, if you take Christian McCaffrey and Fred
Speaker 1: Warner off this team, it's not the same team. That's
Speaker 1: the best linebacker in the game and the best running
Speaker 1: back right now and what they can use, you know.
Speaker 1: It's the other thing is when I mean, we've all
Speaker 1: had a bunch of bosses in our life. But like
Speaker 1: when you're in sports. Basketball is in hockey or really
Speaker 1: so fast, but in football, you huddle. Football plays are choreographed,
Speaker 1: so you can sit on that bench as a football player. Right.
Speaker 1: Baseball very individual. If a guy's hot on the mound,
Speaker 1: there's not a lot you can do. Again, Basketball is
Speaker 1: moving a thousand miles an hour, and football, you know
Speaker 1: when the other coaches better than your coach, like Dallas
Speaker 1: players are watching this Rubik's Cuba and offense, you know
Speaker 1: they're going, shit, we're getting worked tonight, right, like a
Speaker 1: player would know that.
Speaker 3: Well, think about this a couple of years ago. They
Speaker 3: led the league in penalties. When the forty nine ers
Speaker 3: beat them two years ago at Dallas, they had a
Speaker 3: ton of penalties. There was an undisciplined nature watching them
Speaker 3: play tonight, there were a couple late hits out of bounds,
Speaker 3: and I understand I always struggle, like in a physical
Speaker 3: matchup like this, you want guys to kind of be
Speaker 3: on edge. But there's also the fifteen yards when you
Speaker 3: thought the game was going to be you know, in
Speaker 3: somewhat doubt early it was going to be a tight game,
Speaker 3: really really matter, And you just watch Dallas, you know
Speaker 3: they're just they're not buttoned up. And I think you
Speaker 3: always talk about this with defensive coaches. They just don't
Speaker 3: understand the quarterback. They don't value certain things on offense.
Speaker 3: One thing, having had a front row seat for Kyle
Speaker 3: that really makes them special is how much he values defense.
Speaker 3: Think about they paid They drafted Nick Moosa number two,
Speaker 3: They paid him a lot.
Speaker 4: This year.
Speaker 3: They signed Hargrave as a free agent immediately the moment
Speaker 3: free agency opened. Last year, they signed Tarvarius Ward at corner.
Speaker 3: They've paid multiple linebackers. I think his favorite player on
Speaker 3: the defense is TAALANOA hu Funga from USC. I mean,
Speaker 3: he loves that guy. He really really cares about that
Speaker 3: side of the ball while being I don't know, the
Speaker 3: best play caller in the league.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's it's funny too. There's an alpha
Speaker 1: with San Francisco. I was thinking about this tonight. You know,
Speaker 1: the old Cowboy teams, the Akman, Jimmy Johnson, even the
Speaker 1: coach had a personality. They were big and really good
Speaker 1: in big games. That Cowboy team had personality. They had alpha.
Speaker 1: It was Irvin, it was Jimmy, it was Akman. Some
Speaker 1: of it unspoken, some of it very spoken. Michael Irvan.
Speaker 1: This Cowboy team, to me is kind of kind of dull. Mike,
Speaker 1: Mike mc karthy's a little dull. There's not a lot
Speaker 1: of alpha. I mean, if I took the last ten
Speaker 1: big games they played in, they probably won three of them.
Speaker 1: I just feel like what the great Cowboy teams in
Speaker 1: my memory were better in big games. I feel this
Speaker 1: Cowboy team we always kind of roll our eyes at
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins because he shrinks. This Cowboy team shrinks. They
Speaker 1: shrink against the Eagles, they shrink against the Niners. I mean,
Speaker 1: we have to be honest about this is that whereas
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills can be inconsistent. I mean they're a
Speaker 1: real avalanche team, but when they're in the big games
Speaker 1: against Miami, they show. Now they'll go to London and
Speaker 1: dog it, or they'll they'll play a team like twice
Speaker 1: a year and you're like, what is happening to Buffalo.
Speaker 1: But in the moment the biggest games, the Bills bring
Speaker 1: their best fight. I think, Dallas, we have to acknowledge this.
Speaker 1: They shrink in big games a lot.
Speaker 3: Well, I think you know, I was thinking about this
Speaker 3: watching the Patriots today. We talk a lot about culture,
Speaker 3: you know in football, and usually the coach gets all
Speaker 3: the credit for setting the culture. It's really the players.
Speaker 3: And you got rid of Tom Brady and it kind
Speaker 3: of unraveled. But look, I mean you talk to Edelman,
Speaker 3: he comes through Fox Edelman, Gronk, mccordy, all those guys
Speaker 3: are gone. So when you look at the forty nine ers,
Speaker 3: they are full on both sides of the ball. They're
Speaker 3: all pro level players, are high character, grinder, tough guys. Right,
Speaker 3: you think about Buffalo, who are their high level guys?
Speaker 3: Josh Allen Poyer Milano, Right, they're just high level guys.
Speaker 3: So the Chiefs are a great example, like this modern
Speaker 3: day Brady Belichick guy, super high level, very serious, all
Speaker 3: about football. You watch Dallas, Listen, I appreciate Jerry taking
Speaker 3: some big swings in the draft, but you get some
Speaker 3: of these character guys and then you laugh about it
Speaker 3: in your seven million interviews every other week, like it's
Speaker 3: like that does unravel from the inside. And listen, Dak's
Speaker 3: clearly a good guy, high level guy. But is he
Speaker 3: good enough to kind of be the tone setter for
Speaker 3: the locker clearly not.
Speaker 1: No. I think Mike is probably the tone center for
Speaker 1: the locker room. Yeah, and I think we kind of
Speaker 1: circle back to Dak. Is that I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: blaming Dak for it. But when Jerry talks about, you know,
Speaker 1: these long term extensions, it's like, Jerry, long term extensions,
Speaker 1: that's what you did for Brady or Patrick Mahomes. They
Speaker 1: keep reworking the deal, Lamar, Josh Allen. Dak is not
Speaker 1: a long term extension guy. He is no longer He's
Speaker 1: no longer a mobile quarterback. He is Greg Greg Cosell
Speaker 1: said this on my show about a month ago, and
Speaker 1: it really I thought was one of the eye opening bites.
Speaker 1: He comes on every Thursday, and he said the tape
Speaker 1: doesn't lie. Da Dak can't move. Well, we never thought
Speaker 1: what if Russell Wilson couldn't move? I mean, seriously, what if?
Speaker 1: What if? I mean you start looking around. I love
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, but the part where he moves is what
Speaker 1: makes him big guy with a cannon to oh holy
Speaker 1: hell in the red zone. You can't stop him. Like
Speaker 1: Dak is an average pocket guy who's now expensive and
Speaker 1: doesn't move. Well.
Speaker 3: Here here's the problem for the Cowboys. Dak always hung
Speaker 3: his hat on like I'm the best of the second
Speaker 3: tier guys. Right, I'm not the superstar, but I'm the best.
Speaker 3: I watched the Chiefs Minnesota game because he's a better
Speaker 3: player tonight. Cli Perty's a better player. So if you're
Speaker 3: no longer that and the way these contracts work, right
Speaker 3: or wrong, it just it is what it is. Dak's
Speaker 3: making forty million dollars a year, so the contract extension, listen,
Speaker 3: it's just football inflation. He's gonna want forty five million
Speaker 3: dollars a year. Like you said, sorry, I can't pay it.
Speaker 3: The problem is, what the hell do you do, right,
Speaker 3: because there's still gonna be a ten to eleven win team.
Speaker 4: So do you just hope you can draft a guy?
Speaker 4: Do you let them walk?
Speaker 3: Trey Lance isn't even I mean, he not even in
Speaker 3: the same universe as Dak Cooper Rush.
Speaker 4: They're kind of in a weird spot.
Speaker 1: So and here's what the Dak defenders say, We'll le
Speaker 1: he's winning a lot of games. We'll time out. Aren't
Speaker 1: you anam guys the one that always tell me that
Speaker 1: winning is not a quarterback stat? Right, you can't have
Speaker 1: it both ways. You can't lecture me on winning's not
Speaker 1: a quarterback stat because if you look at Dax wins,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of wins over Washington, over the Giants,
Speaker 1: over crappy NFC teams. But again, let's go back to
Speaker 1: the big games. They're not a very good big game team.
Speaker 1: So you can't have it both ways. You can't tell
Speaker 1: me Dak's great and he wins a lot of games,
Speaker 1: and then simultaneously, all the smart people on the internet
Speaker 1: is winning's not a quarterback stat. So, I mean, I
Speaker 1: do think that Dak's intangibles are very very strong, leadership, smart,
Speaker 1: pre snap all that stuff.
Speaker 4: Works hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like all that stuff, but just throwing darts
Speaker 1: from the pocket or making plays with your feet, it's
Speaker 1: not there.
Speaker 3: Well at any moment. Josh Allen's, the Herberts, the Mahomes
Speaker 3: can do something that like only l Way and Farbes
Speaker 3: could do, right, Dak can't do that. So to be
Speaker 3: the best version of that Tier two group, you can't
Speaker 3: be turning it over.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: There was that moment on Monday Night Football when when
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones throws the pick and Dable you can't. You're
Speaker 3: not allowed to do We're not good enough with you
Speaker 3: doing that. Dak had the moment tonight, threw the ball
Speaker 3: in the center field to absolutely no man's land, a
Speaker 3: pick that the guy just had to, you know, play
Speaker 3: it like Willie Mays and even McCarthy was looking at
Speaker 3: him a little sidey coming off the field. That can't
Speaker 3: happen with you. And all we talked about all off
Speaker 3: season was the turnovers. The turnovers cut him. You watch
Speaker 3: him the night against a team that they are going
Speaker 3: to have to beat in the second or the third
Speaker 3: round if they want to go anywhere, and he's throwing
Speaker 3: the ball to the other team easily. I mean the
Speaker 3: third pick hit the guy in the hands. Now, maybe
Speaker 3: his confidence is unraveled, but he just wasn't good enough
Speaker 3: early beside really the one drive.
Speaker 1: All right, I want to talk about Russell Wilson, Sean Payton,
Speaker 1: Denver and the Jets. So I'm not a huge fan
Speaker 1: of Zach Wilson. He's the opposite of Dak. I don't
Speaker 1: like any of his intangibles. But he has a good arm.
Speaker 1: But I don't like any of his intangibles. I don't
Speaker 1: trust his leadership. I don't trust him priests. I don't
Speaker 1: trust them in one of my franchise But he's got
Speaker 1: a good arm. But I will say this about the Jets,
Speaker 1: and I think this is where Robert Solid does a
Speaker 1: good job. You're as good as your personnel allows you
Speaker 1: to be. Right, if you're a real franchise coach, the
Speaker 1: Jets do what their personnel allows them to do. They
Speaker 1: have good running backs, they run it. They have a
Speaker 1: good defense, they have a pass rush. They have good corners,
Speaker 1: although they're all banged up. What the Jets can't do
Speaker 1: they only have one legit big time receiver. They don't
Speaker 1: have a very good quarterback, so there's limitations on what
Speaker 1: they they can't get into track meets. But you know,
Speaker 1: I watched them today. Denver doesn't do anything well. The
Speaker 1: Jets do a couple of things really well. The things
Speaker 1: they don't john They're personnel doesn't allow them to do that.
Speaker 1: If Mikale Beckton, forget Zach Wilson, if Mikale Beckton would
Speaker 1: have been a really high end left tackle, maybe I
Speaker 1: think differently. But they got tackle issues, they got a
Speaker 1: quarterback issue, so they can't get into track meets. That's
Speaker 1: not what they can do. But when I watch Denver,
Speaker 1: what do they do well?
Speaker 4: Nothing?
Speaker 3: I mean, you saw today. If the Jets get a lead,
Speaker 3: that's where they're built, and the pass rush can tee
Speaker 3: off and their pass rush goes seven to eight deep
Speaker 3: and they're as good as anyone in the NFL. To
Speaker 3: me and listen, I saw it at the end of
Speaker 3: Andy Reid's run. He had all this juice, all this power,
Speaker 3: and every decision went through him, and it obviously unraveled.
Speaker 3: That opened up perfectly for him because he went to
Speaker 3: Kansas City and became an absolute legend. Now he has
Speaker 3: mahomes and off and run. But when the coach has
Speaker 3: so much power and won't listen to anyone else. And
Speaker 3: even then Andy had Howie, he would listen to other people.
Speaker 3: There is no one in that building Sean Payton's going
Speaker 3: to listen to. And there is a powerful dynamic in
Speaker 3: the NFL when you have a personnel guy that can
Speaker 3: go that's not a good idea because coaches sometimes are
Speaker 3: too close to the sun. Sure, they're desperate to get
Speaker 3: mcglinchy's a great example. They gave him fifty million dollars.
Speaker 3: There cannot be many personnel people in the league that
Speaker 3: would have signed off on this pass. There's no he
Speaker 3: You cannot sign to tackle the fifty million dollars.
Speaker 4: That can't pass block You can't do it.
Speaker 3: So you just moves like that, and Sean Payton's power
Speaker 3: is only going to go up because George Payton will
Speaker 3: probably be fired. He'll bring in his own guy. Well,
Speaker 3: when he brings in his own guy, that guy's not
Speaker 3: gonna have the Jews. That guy's gonna, you know, kind
Speaker 3: of rely on Sean Payton and try to make him happy.
Speaker 3: So the dynamics there are a little off. Sometimes it
Speaker 3: can work right. Pete Carroll hired John Schneider, but immediately
Speaker 3: John talked to him into rustle and he earned the
Speaker 3: respect and it changed everything. I think that's an underrated
Speaker 3: part of this because their issues are gonna be personnel oriented.
Speaker 3: How do we improve, what do we do in the draft?
Speaker 3: What kind of moves we can make? Sean has unlimited power,
Speaker 3: and Sewn always had Mickey Loomis in New Orleans, who
Speaker 3: he's even said is his best friend, trusted him, believed
Speaker 3: in him. Even when you have trust, the two of
Speaker 3: you won't always be right, but at least you'll make
Speaker 3: decisions with mutual respect, and ultimately, whenever the decision was made,
Speaker 3: you both move forward. Here, it's a kind of a
Speaker 3: one man band. Sean's a coach and they got enough
Speaker 3: issues on the field. He needs help in the personnel department.
Speaker 3: And I could already see that, like, I don't know
Speaker 3: how they fix that well.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Bill Belichick, he's got too much power.
Speaker 1: I mean, last year they drafted three guards and two kickers,
Speaker 1: and this team has no speed and it's like a
Speaker 1: ridiculous draft. Pete Carroll I thought had a few years
Speaker 1: after Paul Allen's death, Remember when Snyder went to the
Speaker 1: Lions to interview because Pete had usurped some of his power,
Speaker 1: kind of power vacuum, and then last couple of years
Speaker 1: Snyder has gotten some promise. There's guarantees he has more power.
Speaker 1: They've had back to back great drafts. That doesn't mean
Speaker 1: Pete doesn't know personnel. But it's hard enough to be
Speaker 1: a great coach. You can't be a Pete.
Speaker 4: And Pete looks better for that, right.
Speaker 3: I think how much higher everyone thinks of Pete Carroll
Speaker 3: now that he lets his GM influence these picks.
Speaker 4: Now everyone benefits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's really interesting. I really like Sean, but
Speaker 1: when he wanted the Chargers job, so when he so,
Speaker 1: he and I were talking during the pursuit, right like
Speaker 1: he was telling me. I didn't go on the air
Speaker 1: with it, but he told me who he was, you know,
Speaker 1: talking to. And then when the Denver thing came out,
Speaker 1: he went kind of silent for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: So I figured, okay, I just I know I get it,
Speaker 1: so I stay away. I thought my takeaway was, well,
Speaker 1: I think he'll make Russell better, and I think they'll
Speaker 1: go from four or five wins to nine or ten.
Speaker 1: But I think the issue is I think he solved
Speaker 1: Russell to some degree. But Russell at the contract level
Speaker 1: that will start next year is not good enough for
Speaker 1: that contract if he was making twelve million a year
Speaker 1: twenty forty fifty five. So I think when Sean took
Speaker 1: the job, somebody offered him a lot of money, and money,
Speaker 1: you know, gives you power and makes you feel confident,
Speaker 1: but it's not. It was not, Frankly John, a great job.
Speaker 1: You had to either have a superstar quarterback in their prime,
Speaker 1: you know, Alan Lamar or my homes right right, Herbert, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a great job. The Chargers now is a great job.
Speaker 1: Buffalo is a great job. Or you have to have
Speaker 1: a super talented rookie on a rookie deal. CJ. Stroud,
Speaker 1: Dimiko Ryan suddenly may have himself a really good job, right,
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. What's not a good job is a wildly
Speaker 1: expensive contract for a guy who's lost his fastball. So
Speaker 1: this is a great example. This is a prime example
Speaker 1: of Sean. I think he's already good coach. I think
Speaker 1: he took a job that's not right now a really
Speaker 1: good job.
Speaker 3: Well, and think about this, there's two Listen. Obviously, you
Speaker 3: get ninety million dollars. He's making eighteen million dollars a year.
Speaker 3: Ninety nine percent of humans take the job, especially coaches.
Speaker 3: They always view jobs like they can fix it. But
Speaker 3: there's a dynamic as part of accepting this job that
Speaker 3: doesn't get discussed very much. And Sean brought this up.
Speaker 3: I think at the combine he had planned to go
Speaker 3: as a package deal with Vic Fangio like they were,
Speaker 3: but Vic obviously had just gotten fired a year ago
Speaker 3: from Denver wasn't going to go back, so Vic he
Speaker 3: couldn't take Vic Fangil with him. So part of Russell Wilson,
Speaker 3: if this was gonna work, they were gonna have to
Speaker 3: be really good on defense, right, be a defensive team,
Speaker 3: be kind of conservative on offense, like that's how they
Speaker 3: were gonna have to play. For a couple of years,
Speaker 3: Vance Jose has been terrible, and in fairness, Sean had
Speaker 3: the right guy. But he even said like Vic just
Speaker 3: wouldn't do it. It was too uncomfortable. He had literally just
Speaker 3: been fired twelve months before. So yeah, it worked for
Speaker 3: Sean getting the money, but big picture of how he
Speaker 3: wanted to build the franchise with the defensive coordinator he
Speaker 3: wanted and the quarterback he was going to be forced
Speaker 3: to work with because of the contract.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, we'll see this year some of these jobs
Speaker 3: that open. If the number one overall pick job opens,
Speaker 3: I think it's easy to kind of play Monday morning
Speaker 3: quarterback and go. That was probably a major mistake by
Speaker 3: him rushing into it a little bit just because he
Speaker 3: had the itch.
Speaker 4: And listen, that's coaching. Remember when Jim Harbaugh took the job,
Speaker 4: people like got a forty nine er situation. That's a disaster.
Speaker 4: So you know coaches that they're sick, Colin, that they
Speaker 4: really are.
Speaker 3: That they view things for as much as they get paid,
Speaker 3: they also think this this deep down confidence in their
Speaker 3: own abilities to change things. And let's face it, in
Speaker 3: this league, like Kyle Shanahan looks a lot better with
Speaker 3: the guys he has than he does three or four
Speaker 3: years ago when he had scrubs around him.
Speaker 1: Another game I want to talk about. I did it
Speaker 1: in my preamble, Philadelphia beat the Rams. Philadelphia is the
Speaker 1: one team that could match up with San Francisco in
Speaker 1: the NFC. I love Jalen Hurts. I didn't know he
Speaker 1: was going to be this. You know. My takeaway was
Speaker 1: he was when he came into the league. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what is he? What is he is?
Speaker 1: You know he can move? I didn't know what he was.
Speaker 1: And then he gets Shane Steiken and it's interesting. So
Speaker 1: he gets Shane Steikeen, and once Nick Sirianni gives Shane
Speaker 1: Stikeen the play calling duties, he explodes. So Shane leaves
Speaker 1: and Jalen first couple of weeks is just scuffing. He's
Speaker 1: trying to get it. And then you've watched the last
Speaker 1: couple of games, it's like the kid worked so hard.
Speaker 1: Now he's starting to refine it without Shane Stikeen. And
Speaker 1: we've seen this before. You have a coordinator Matt Ryan,
Speaker 1: and you get this great cord Kyle Shanahan, You're amazing
Speaker 1: MVP level. He leaves, you're never the same player. But
Speaker 1: I think a testament to Jalen Hurts and just his
Speaker 1: ability to be coachable. I have watched him now for
Speaker 1: five weeks. Just get a little better and a little better,
Speaker 1: and it's hard. It's like losing your best friend. It's
Speaker 1: like losing your best boss at work, your sales manager
Speaker 1: in your an account executive, and you're just off and
Speaker 1: I felt Jalen was like, because Stiken's really a brilliant guy.
Speaker 1: You see it again today I was gonna say this,
Speaker 1: I think Stiken calls as good a game as anybody
Speaker 1: in the league. I'm watching today with Gardner Minshew and
Speaker 1: I'm like, shit, this is this guy can call a game.
Speaker 4: They didn't skip a beat, not a bit.
Speaker 1: And I mean Gardner Minshew, but I'm like, God is
Speaker 1: clever and and you lose a Kyle Shanahan level a coordinator.
Speaker 1: And I watched today Jalen Hurts and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: that kid, he is just I think that team has
Speaker 1: such strong belief in Jalen Hurts. He had a couple
Speaker 1: of plays today when he scrambled a act stayed on
Speaker 1: his feet and I'm like.
Speaker 4: That was an incredible run.
Speaker 1: It was it just like God, I there's just Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts is one of those players. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I was a professional scout and used to do this,
Speaker 1: I don't know what I would have put on paper
Speaker 1: I had. I never saw this coming, did you what.
Speaker 3: He's a great result or a great example of the
Speaker 3: intangible stuff being so powerful. He has improved dramatic even
Speaker 3: the Eagles. I mean, they never thought he would be
Speaker 3: this one thing today happened though, and I jotted it
Speaker 3: down because I tension in football can be very healthy.
Speaker 3: The Patriots had it forever. I'm talking like players with
Speaker 3: the coaches during games. As long as you know, losing teams,
Speaker 3: it unravels. But winning teams they harness it and then
Speaker 3: they like improve on the next drive. Jalen threw a
Speaker 3: terrible pick in like the the front pylon of the
Speaker 3: end zone to Witherspoon, who actually made an incredible play
Speaker 3: he did, and Siriani lights him up. I mean, they
Speaker 3: just start going and Jalen kind of takes it. How
Speaker 3: many guys in the NFL in twenty twenty three, just
Speaker 3: pro sports in general, making forty five million dollars a year,
Speaker 3: who just had the Super Bowl? He had that That
Speaker 3: never happens anymore, even in football, and even I think
Speaker 3: burke Hart and Olsen, we're calling that game, and even
Speaker 3: like Dad's a coach, he asked for this, he wants it.
Speaker 3: And then there was another moment Jason Kelsey getting on
Speaker 3: the coaches. But it never feels destructive. It never feels
Speaker 3: like there's these guys are like players against coaches, coaches
Speaker 3: against players.
Speaker 4: It's all we're kind of in the boat together.
Speaker 3: You're talking about there, the greatest offensive lineman the franchise
Speaker 3: ever had is going to the Hall of Fame and
Speaker 3: they're forty five to fifty million dollars quarterback, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just normal. They handle it. Their character. I've seen
Speaker 3: it with the Niners. They have it to Andy's staff
Speaker 3: is not they don't really yell as much, but they
Speaker 3: have the same thing. It's just we will do whatever
Speaker 3: it takes to improve on the next drive to get
Speaker 3: it right. Where a lot of teams the coach has
Speaker 3: to be right, the player gets it's bitter and there's
Speaker 3: like this animosity. The Eagles do not have that, And
Speaker 3: it all starts with their player's character.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it starts with Jalen Hurts. I mean I've
Speaker 1: heard this before about Mac Jones, is that he can
Speaker 1: be very prickly with hard coaching, right, like he can
Speaker 1: be very prickly. Jalen Hurts totally accepts it. And if
Speaker 1: the quarterback who got the bag accepts it, then everybody
Speaker 1: has to accept it. And I think that's i you know,
Speaker 1: because that was that was an interesting pick. It was
Speaker 1: in the end zone.
Speaker 4: If I recall that, it was, yeah, the front pylon
Speaker 4: of the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was funny because the Eagles
Speaker 1: are now five and zero. I don't think they played
Speaker 1: a great football game, but I said earlier, I don't
Speaker 1: think I've seen a team now. Maybe the Niners tonight
Speaker 1: physically imposed their will. The Rams never had the ball
Speaker 1: in the second happen in Philadelphia, and it was really smart.
Speaker 1: They're like, we're just gonna eat this clock, maybe an
Speaker 1: occasional AJ Brown, We're just gonna get four and a
Speaker 1: half yards. And you could just see the Rams the
Speaker 1: body language and they were tired, and it was like,
Speaker 1: there's a culture.
Speaker 3: And by the way, this impressive game by the Rams call,
Speaker 3: I mean they hang a rock.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they are much.
Speaker 3: Better than I thought that they really. I thought they
Speaker 3: got Caleb Williams written all over them. Pooka Nakula looks fantastic.
Speaker 3: Stafford's playing well, Donald's still playing his ass off.
Speaker 4: They're gonna compete for a wildcard spot for sure.
Speaker 3: One more thing here, Colin, I saw a lot today
Speaker 3: on the internet. You have to protect Anthony Richardson. You
Speaker 3: can't let him play like this well. Part of drafting
Speaker 3: Cam Newton Anthony Richardson RG three I.
Speaker 4: Saw last year with Trey Lance. You can't run him around.
Speaker 4: That's what he well.
Speaker 3: Trade didn't, but those other guys do well. And right now,
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson, running is his greatest attribute. And then off
Speaker 3: that he's gonna be fifty percent completion, hit some big plays.
Speaker 3: So today when he hurts his shoulder like that is
Speaker 3: a strength of his right now, he cannot just sit
Speaker 3: in the pocket throw or they will have no shot.
Speaker 3: So I can't blame Shane Stiken for running him around
Speaker 3: when that is his positive attribute.
Speaker 1: Curer go back to early Big Ben. Big Ben was
Speaker 1: a little over his skis for even the great team
Speaker 1: his first year. Yeah, but part of what made him
Speaker 1: great is it was backyard Thanksgiving Day football where Ben
Speaker 1: would just take the It was like a NERF game
Speaker 1: and Ben's running around with the ball in his hands
Speaker 1: like otherwise, Ben was not good enough pre snap he
Speaker 1: came from Miami of Ohio. He just wasn't good enough.
Speaker 1: You had to let Big Ben run and so and
Speaker 1: I think Cam was a much more refined product than
Speaker 1: Big Ben. First during the league. You know, Cam had
Speaker 1: played a sec he'd seen played against great players. But
Speaker 1: I remember Big Ben Early was one of the first
Speaker 1: times I'm like, oh no, no, no, you just got
Speaker 1: to let him do backyard football a little bit. And
Speaker 1: I know it's a structured Steeler environment, but Miami of
Speaker 1: Ohio to the Pittsburgh Steelers playing an AFC championship games, like,
Speaker 1: you got to let dudes be dude it. By the way,
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson has gotten banged up. A couple of them
Speaker 1: have not been like violent hits while he's running. He's
Speaker 1: a He is just a kid that likes contact. That
Speaker 1: he's a big body. Sometimes I think with Anthony Richardson,
Speaker 1: Big Ben Cam, big strong athletes, Herbert's done this.
Speaker 4: They have no idea.
Speaker 1: They think they're bulletproof. I've seen Justin Herbert put his
Speaker 1: shoulder down on a two hundred and seventy five pounds
Speaker 1: defensive and I'll say, Justin, it's not high school football
Speaker 1: against Roseburg High School.
Speaker 3: I think the concerning part about Anthony Richardson is sometimes
Speaker 3: and listen, Herbert hasn't really missed time, right, but.
Speaker 4: He's been banged up a lot.
Speaker 3: I don't remember early Young Cam ever, getting hurt. I mean,
Speaker 3: he was probably physically hurting, but he could play listen.
Speaker 3: I mean, sometimes he's just random because you see Anthony Rigarson, like,
Speaker 3: this guy's indestructible. He has to be feeling that because
Speaker 3: he's running by and over guys. The problem is unlike
Speaker 3: those guys, he's not getting up. Yeah, so that would be.
Speaker 3: And sometimes certain guys, for whatever reason, big, small, all
Speaker 3: sorts of shapes and sizes, just get hurt more for
Speaker 3: whatever reason. And it's not the you know, the trainer's fault,
Speaker 3: it's not the weight room guy's fault.
Speaker 4: It's just their body. Because like you said today, what
Speaker 4: was a pretty just normal football play.
Speaker 3: You see a lot of even non running quarterbacks kind
Speaker 3: of scramble and get tackled that I'd be a little
Speaker 3: scared that. I don't know what we need to do
Speaker 3: with this young guy. But he's kind of getting banged
Speaker 3: up in pretty uh, I would say random play.
Speaker 4: He's not maliciously violent, just absurd hits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I it's it's one of those things where
Speaker 1: I just love watching him play. And he's the culture
Speaker 1: lucky to have him, and he's lucky to have Shane
Speaker 1: Steichen And now Jonathan Taylor and I by the way,
Speaker 1: I think this was an example where Jonathan Taylor was
Speaker 1: aided by a couple of these injuries. I think Chris
Speaker 1: Patler looked at this thought, we got to take some
Speaker 1: carries out of Anthony Richardson. We got to stop. I mean,
Speaker 1: I honestly think everybody, Oh, running backs don't get paid,
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, no, the Colts guys got paid
Speaker 1: a Saquon by the way, because of Daniel jones inefficiency.
Speaker 1: Saquon got paid. I still think with Mike Williams out,
Speaker 1: Austin Eckler, you know I need him around, So I
Speaker 1: do think in this instant Jonathan Taylor, I think Chris
Speaker 1: Botler looked at it and thought, Mike, Mike, quarterback's getting
Speaker 1: he's getting hit too much. I got to give somebody
Speaker 1: else the football.
Speaker 4: Also, my coach is good enough. I'm looking around my division.
Speaker 4: Why couldn't we win this thing?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: Why why couldn't we go ten and seven and win
Speaker 4: the division?
Speaker 3: That bad division? Shane Steiken looks like he's got a
Speaker 3: chance to be a home run. Demiko Ryans looks like
Speaker 3: pretty damn good Coade. Obviously, v abel a stud that's
Speaker 3: Doug Peterson's Super Bowl champ. Pretty good coaching in the
Speaker 3: in the AFC South.
Speaker 1: Right, Now, let's talk for a couple of minutes. We
Speaker 1: must because we both love college football. So here was
Speaker 1: my take on USC's near loss. Notre Dame was next.
Speaker 1: They were a three touchdown favorite home against Arizona, and
Speaker 1: they can see Notre Dame Utah washing. They know, players
Speaker 1: know they're three touchdowns favorites. So part of it is
Speaker 1: that had it had close game written all over it. Secondly,
Speaker 1: outside of Washington, Arizona has the best receiving tandem McMillan
Speaker 1: and Jacob Cowling in the conference.
Speaker 4: Those guys are pros and they're good. Arizona's not bad.
Speaker 1: No, and the Trojans don't have great corners, so the
Speaker 1: game was going to be high scoring. The other thing is, uh,
Speaker 1: and this is you get into a weird spot us.
Speaker 1: He's a terrible tackling team. Terrible, So I don't know
Speaker 1: what that is. Is it practice? Is it the fact
Speaker 1: that their safeties and corners have to make so many tackles.
Speaker 1: Those are not your best tacklers. It's they don't bring
Speaker 1: down guys in our first shot. But when I look
Speaker 1: at USC. My takeaways, they'll beat Notre Dame because they're
Speaker 1: built to beat average offenses with good defenses. They all
Speaker 1: they're just they're going to score thirty five points. That's
Speaker 1: just what they're going to do. I don't think they
Speaker 1: can beat Oregon. I don't think they can beat Washington.
Speaker 1: Ucla is getting better every time I watch them. What
Speaker 1: do you make of the battle inside of program? When
Speaker 1: Caleb in an offense is carrying it? How good is
Speaker 1: USC's personnel in your opinion?
Speaker 3: Yeah, to me it Lincoln is a Mike Leach guy, right,
Speaker 3: spend a lot of time there. That's what shaped his
Speaker 3: philosophical beliefs, and he's kind of morphed it off that Well,
Speaker 3: that offense you practice, you only have so many guys
Speaker 3: on the football team. Your offense practice against your defense,
Speaker 3: right when you go up against the Eagles or the
Speaker 3: forty nine ers every day, Right, there's just a physicality
Speaker 3: in practice. Look look at Jim Harbaugh. Over the time,
Speaker 3: as he's gotten better players, his team is dramatically more physical.
Speaker 3: Urban Meyer always had this. Nick Saban's had this on
Speaker 3: most of his teams because that's how you play on offense. Well,
Speaker 3: His offense has always been spread it out, throw it
Speaker 3: to the outside, especially now because they are so predicated
Speaker 3: on these outside, sweet wide receivers. It doesn't even if
Speaker 3: you're personnel, you don't have Ray mal Luga and Brian
Speaker 3: Cushing walking through that door.
Speaker 4: It's harder to improve.
Speaker 3: When you're running sideline the sideline in practice and not
Speaker 3: taking things on. So what happens sometimes guys just run
Speaker 3: it down their throat because to me, their front seven
Speaker 3: doesn't look that physical. I will say this though, from
Speaker 3: an evaluation standpoint of Caleb. Sometimes I get a lot
Speaker 3: of my buddies like, tell your boy Colin to slow
Speaker 3: down the hype train. You know, scouts are always big
Speaker 3: on us the way, and I was like this when
Speaker 3: I was in the league, and I'm like it now.
Speaker 3: I get excited watching guys and Caleb's talent is immense,
Speaker 3: but you know, you don't.
Speaker 4: Draft just purely off hype.
Speaker 3: Right now, his talent and what he's doing now at
Speaker 3: Oklahoma and even last year, for the most part, it
Speaker 3: became very very easy to them.
Speaker 4: This year it's a little more difficult.
Speaker 3: They're playing in all these close games, even in conference,
Speaker 3: so you're seeing him the.
Speaker 4: Spot last night where it was like he had to
Speaker 4: carry him.
Speaker 3: If he screwed up, they lose, and he made remarkable
Speaker 3: because the only negative thing I've heard is from an
Speaker 3: executive that said, you know, we have them kind of
Speaker 3: their verified measurement slightly under six.
Speaker 4: Feet it's like six oos.
Speaker 3: But he's not small. You saw the play last night
Speaker 3: when he carried the defender in the end zone. So
Speaker 3: he's thick and his arm is just absolutely and last
Speaker 3: night his moxie and his I mean, Lincoln called was
Speaker 3: it in overtime when he did the shift place doing weird,
Speaker 3: but Caleb just refused to let him lose and made
Speaker 3: a play one on one with the guy. I actually
Speaker 3: am learning more about Caleb in those moments than you
Speaker 3: do when they're just routing Stanford seventy five to three, right.
Speaker 3: So you see him pressed, You see him making these
Speaker 3: plays against teams that you could argue they should be
Speaker 3: blown out, but because of their defense, they're just not.
Speaker 3: So if he doesn't score on an every drive basis,
Speaker 3: it's like the Cowboys and Niners. If Dak didn't throw
Speaker 3: four touchdowns to night, they had no chance. And he
Speaker 3: doesn't have that capability where Caleb's like, yeah, I gotta
Speaker 3: throw seven touchdowns and run for two more. I'll do
Speaker 3: it right, and that to me, it's like we talked
Speaker 3: about brock Perty. He played on some of those teams
Speaker 3: where he had to be awesome for them to upset somebody,
Speaker 3: and he did a lot of the times in college
Speaker 3: why he was two time Big twelve Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: The only knock I've seen is that sometimes he can
Speaker 1: get a little off on his accuracy, but he usually
Speaker 1: self correct next drive. But I have found josh Allen Mahomes.
Speaker 1: I think hyper athletic players sometimes they like their mechanics
Speaker 1: go a little sideways because they're moving around, Whereas Brady's
Speaker 1: mechanics were great because he had to have great mechanics.
Speaker 4: You know, Burn, Yeah, Burrow.
Speaker 1: But I do think I do think he gets a
Speaker 1: little off on his mechanics. Sometimes he didn't get sloppy.
Speaker 1: But he's such a bright kid. I know him pretty well.
Speaker 1: He's self corrects really really quickly. I don't see a
Speaker 1: lot of weaknesses.
Speaker 3: He's going to have to be absolutely remarkable in my
Speaker 3: opinion for them to be in the Pac twelve Championship game,
Speaker 3: because now that they don't have like the North and South.
Speaker 3: It's just the best two teams right record wise, they
Speaker 3: feel to me more like ten and two. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: if Oregon and Washington, whoever loses that game still runs
Speaker 3: the table and beats them, because I have a hard
Speaker 3: time seeing them beat organ in Washington the way they're
Speaker 3: playing right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they would. In fact, I think
Speaker 1: I think I don't think Washington's defense is great. They
Speaker 1: have a couple of good players. I think Oregon could
Speaker 1: hammer them. I mean, I think that game's in Otson.
Speaker 3: That's trouble and the other thing USC could. We'll see
Speaker 3: how Utah's playing. But the Utah's defense is unreal. So
Speaker 3: that's just and we saw last year they beat him twice.
Speaker 3: That's just a tough game for Caleb and the offense.
Speaker 4: Right right.
Speaker 1: John Middlecoff three and out former NFL scout, Good stuff,
Speaker 1: John Good talking again.
Speaker 4: Take it easy, gone
Speaker 3: The volume.