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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody welcome in an active and a very successful Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I was five and zero in the Blazing five four

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Speaker 1: no time. My first takeaway is watching Philadelphia. I still

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Speaker 1: was one of the more physically dominating performances I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: twenty eight first downs to seventeen. They were impeccable on

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Speaker 1: a half hours. You know, Cooper cup got some nice

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Speaker 1: this is really what separates to me Philadelphia from everybody

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Speaker 1: They don't beat you, they punish you, They hurt you.

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Speaker 1: I feel the same way with Philadelphia, and I don't

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Speaker 1: There's so much pressure in the Broncos organization. Sean Payton's contract,

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Speaker 1: You know, Let's say Denver finishes with five wins, and

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Speaker 3: plays a night. It's like Dak forgot that Dray Greenlaw

426
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Speaker 3: and Fred Warner are the best linebacking duo in the league.

427
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Speaker 3: Their play speed is elite for their position. And he

428
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Speaker 3: rolled out a couple of times. It's like, Dak, what

429
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Speaker 3: are you doing? You know, get rid of the ball.

430
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Speaker 3: If you're not gonna be the athlete that you once

431
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Speaker 3: were after the ankle injury, you can't scramble away from

432
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Speaker 3: these guys, can't. And then Perdy the underrated part about

433
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Speaker 3: his game because I remember I listen, I'd be lying

434
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Speaker 3: if I said I watched that much Iowa State football.

435
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Speaker 3: But the one thing that was immediate when he started playing,

436
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 3: and the biggest difference between him and Jimmy, and they

437
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Speaker 3: obviously won a ton of games with Jimmy, yeah, was

438
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Speaker 3: Jimmy's lack of mobility after the ACL injury and his

439
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Speaker 3: just ability to play make outside of the pocket. When

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Speaker 3: you watch Perdy scramble, you're confident that something good is

441
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Speaker 3: gonna happen. How about the touch that he has on

442
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Speaker 3: the move. When you're playing with this much talent. Everyone's like, well,

443
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Speaker 3: he's playing with a lot of talent. Well, you ain't

444
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Speaker 3: got to get him the ball. How many players if

445
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Speaker 3: we've seen play with other good players, Larry Fitzgerald can

446
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,959
Speaker 3: tell you played with a million quarterbacks, couldn't get him

447
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 3: the rock over the years. This guy, you just watch him.

448
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Speaker 3: Obviously he's a little smaller, but listen, I mean his

449
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 3: this fucking kid can play. I mean the bottom.

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Speaker 1: Line, yeah, I mean, and again it's Mark Brunel was

451
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: a late pick, Brady, Kurt Warner, Romo. It's not shocking.

452
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Speaker 1: We've seen guys undrafted and I think there's a ceiling,

453
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Speaker 1: but it's not a Mac Jones ceiling. He moves really well,

454
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Speaker 1: and they don't ask him to throw a ton of

455
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Speaker 1: deep balls. I mean, they just don't this. You know,

456
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Speaker 1: it's just it's funny, like the Dak's rookie year in

457
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Speaker 1: the first couple of years. You know, he got an

458
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Speaker 1: MVP voter to his first year in the league, and

459
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Speaker 1: so much of that was you weren't paying Dak anything.

460
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Speaker 1: So they had the O line, they had Zeke. It

461
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Speaker 1: was an all star team, even their defense. I went

462
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Speaker 1: and looked it up the other day. Was top five

463
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Speaker 1: in the league, Dallas right now, because once you pay

464
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Speaker 1: that quarterback. I mean, Kansas City's roster is not great. Cincinnati,

465
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Speaker 1: there's holes in that thing. Everybody's roster has a hole

466
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Speaker 1: except San Francisco.

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Speaker 4: I mean, so I I think.

468
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Speaker 3: I think also when you take a core to back high,

469
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 3: you like a specific guy and you get aggressive, from

470
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Speaker 3: Josh Allen to Mahomes to when the Texans drafted Deshaun

471
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 3: Watson to Baker Mayfield, like you like that guy. To me,

472
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Speaker 3: when you get a guy in the third, fourth and beyond,

473
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Speaker 3: there's an element of luck right at quarterback because teams

474
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Speaker 3: are passing on the guy.

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Speaker 4: It's easy to look back. God, look how good perty is.

476
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Speaker 3: But at the time, I mean, he was one spot

477
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Speaker 3: away from being an undrafted free agent. But you cannot

478
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Speaker 3: value And I think it's pretty clear guys like him.

479
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Speaker 3: You and I have talked about it. When you go

480
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Speaker 3: to Alabama or Georgia, you have such an advantage on

481
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Speaker 3: a weekly basis, right, you really do. Hell, we'll probably

482
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Speaker 3: talk about Kleb a little bit later. I think he's

483
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 3: benefiting a lot, or at least scouts are gonna benefit

484
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Speaker 3: watching him play. It's not as easy this year, Like

485
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Speaker 3: he has to make shit happen. His team has a

486
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Speaker 3: huge advantage. Well perty his entire career, we're going into

487
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Speaker 3: games either as underdogs or having less talent than their opponents.

488
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Speaker 3: So you have to learn how to play. So now

489
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Speaker 3: you watch him, well, he clearly he knows how to play,

490
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 3: and now he has the talent around him, and it's

491
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Speaker 3: bombs away. I mean they feel, I mean clearly like

492
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Speaker 3: one of the better teams we've seen in terms of

493
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Speaker 3: the way they start and just how the level in

494
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Speaker 3: which they're playing. In recent memory in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Oh I think honestly, again, if you had even a

496
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Speaker 1: good quarterback Kirk Cousins, you could not have the same roster.

497
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Speaker 1: You would not get both of those linebackers, you know,

498
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Speaker 1: you wouldn't. You would not have been able to acquire

499
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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. Well, if you take Christian McCaffrey and Fred

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Speaker 1: Warner off this team, it's not the same team. That's

501
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 1: the best linebacker in the game and the best running

502
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Speaker 1: back right now and what they can use, you know.

503
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Speaker 1: It's the other thing is when I mean, we've all

504
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: had a bunch of bosses in our life. But like

505
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Speaker 1: when you're in sports. Basketball is in hockey or really

506
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: so fast, but in football, you huddle. Football plays are choreographed,

507
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: so you can sit on that bench as a football player. Right.

508
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: Baseball very individual. If a guy's hot on the mound,

509
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Speaker 1: there's not a lot you can do. Again, Basketball is

510
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: moving a thousand miles an hour, and football, you know

511
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Speaker 1: when the other coaches better than your coach, like Dallas

512
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Speaker 1: players are watching this Rubik's Cuba and offense, you know

513
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Speaker 1: they're going, shit, we're getting worked tonight, right, like a

514
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Speaker 1: player would know that.

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Speaker 3: Well, think about this a couple of years ago. They

516
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Speaker 3: led the league in penalties. When the forty nine ers

517
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Speaker 3: beat them two years ago at Dallas, they had a

518
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Speaker 3: ton of penalties. There was an undisciplined nature watching them

519
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Speaker 3: play tonight, there were a couple late hits out of bounds,

520
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Speaker 3: and I understand I always struggle, like in a physical

521
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Speaker 3: matchup like this, you want guys to kind of be

522
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Speaker 3: on edge. But there's also the fifteen yards when you

523
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Speaker 3: thought the game was going to be you know, in

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Speaker 3: somewhat doubt early it was going to be a tight game,

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Speaker 3: really really matter, And you just watch Dallas, you know

526
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Speaker 3: they're just they're not buttoned up. And I think you

527
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Speaker 3: always talk about this with defensive coaches. They just don't

528
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Speaker 3: understand the quarterback. They don't value certain things on offense.

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Speaker 3: One thing, having had a front row seat for Kyle

530
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Speaker 3: that really makes them special is how much he values defense.

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Speaker 3: Think about they paid They drafted Nick Moosa number two,

532
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Speaker 3: They paid him a lot.

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Speaker 4: This year.

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Speaker 3: They signed Hargrave as a free agent immediately the moment

535
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Speaker 3: free agency opened. Last year, they signed Tarvarius Ward at corner.

536
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Speaker 3: They've paid multiple linebackers. I think his favorite player on

537
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Speaker 3: the defense is TAALANOA hu Funga from USC. I mean,

538
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,479
Speaker 3: he loves that guy. He really really cares about that

539
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Speaker 3: side of the ball while being I don't know, the

540
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 3: best play caller in the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's it's funny too. There's an alpha

542
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Speaker 1: with San Francisco. I was thinking about this tonight. You know,

543
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Speaker 1: the old Cowboy teams, the Akman, Jimmy Johnson, even the

544
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Speaker 1: coach had a personality. They were big and really good

545
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Speaker 1: in big games. That Cowboy team had personality. They had alpha.

546
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Speaker 1: It was Irvin, it was Jimmy, it was Akman. Some

547
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Speaker 1: of it unspoken, some of it very spoken. Michael Irvan.

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Speaker 1: This Cowboy team, to me is kind of kind of dull. Mike,

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Speaker 1: Mike mc karthy's a little dull. There's not a lot

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Speaker 1: of alpha. I mean, if I took the last ten

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Speaker 1: big games they played in, they probably won three of them.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like what the great Cowboy teams in

553
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Speaker 1: my memory were better in big games. I feel this

554
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Speaker 1: Cowboy team we always kind of roll our eyes at

555
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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins because he shrinks. This Cowboy team shrinks. They

556
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Speaker 1: shrink against the Eagles, they shrink against the Niners. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we have to be honest about this is that whereas

558
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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills can be inconsistent. I mean they're a

559
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Speaker 1: real avalanche team, but when they're in the big games

560
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Speaker 1: against Miami, they show. Now they'll go to London and

561
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Speaker 1: dog it, or they'll they'll play a team like twice

562
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Speaker 1: a year and you're like, what is happening to Buffalo.

563
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Speaker 1: But in the moment the biggest games, the Bills bring

564
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Speaker 1: their best fight. I think, Dallas, we have to acknowledge this.

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Speaker 1: They shrink in big games a lot.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you know, I was thinking about this

567
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Speaker 3: watching the Patriots today. We talk a lot about culture,

568
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: you know in football, and usually the coach gets all

569
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 3: the credit for setting the culture. It's really the players.

570
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Speaker 3: And you got rid of Tom Brady and it kind

571
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Speaker 3: of unraveled. But look, I mean you talk to Edelman,

572
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 3: he comes through Fox Edelman, Gronk, mccordy, all those guys

573
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Speaker 3: are gone. So when you look at the forty nine ers,

574
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Speaker 3: they are full on both sides of the ball. They're

575
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Speaker 3: all pro level players, are high character, grinder, tough guys. Right,

576
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Speaker 3: you think about Buffalo, who are their high level guys?

577
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Speaker 3: Josh Allen Poyer Milano, Right, they're just high level guys.

578
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Speaker 3: So the Chiefs are a great example, like this modern

579
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Speaker 3: day Brady Belichick guy, super high level, very serious, all

580
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Speaker 3: about football. You watch Dallas, Listen, I appreciate Jerry taking

581
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 3: some big swings in the draft, but you get some

582
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Speaker 3: of these character guys and then you laugh about it

583
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Speaker 3: in your seven million interviews every other week, like it's

584
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: like that does unravel from the inside. And listen, Dak's

585
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: clearly a good guy, high level guy. But is he

586
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Speaker 3: good enough to kind of be the tone setter for

587
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Speaker 3: the locker clearly not.

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Speaker 1: No. I think Mike is probably the tone center for

589
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Speaker 1: the locker room. Yeah, and I think we kind of

590
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: circle back to Dak. Is that I'm not I'm not

591
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Speaker 1: blaming Dak for it. But when Jerry talks about, you know,

592
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Speaker 1: these long term extensions, it's like, Jerry, long term extensions,

593
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Speaker 1: that's what you did for Brady or Patrick Mahomes. They

594
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Speaker 1: keep reworking the deal, Lamar, Josh Allen. Dak is not

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Speaker 1: a long term extension guy. He is no longer He's

596
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 1: no longer a mobile quarterback. He is Greg Greg Cosell

597
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Speaker 1: said this on my show about a month ago, and

598
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Speaker 1: it really I thought was one of the eye opening bites.

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00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: He comes on every Thursday, and he said the tape

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Speaker 1: doesn't lie. Da Dak can't move. Well, we never thought

601
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Speaker 1: what if Russell Wilson couldn't move? I mean, seriously, what if?

602
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Speaker 1: What if? I mean you start looking around. I love

603
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, but the part where he moves is what

604
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Speaker 1: makes him big guy with a cannon to oh holy

605
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Speaker 1: hell in the red zone. You can't stop him. Like

606
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Speaker 1: Dak is an average pocket guy who's now expensive and

607
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Speaker 1: doesn't move. Well.

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Speaker 3: Here here's the problem for the Cowboys. Dak always hung

609
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Speaker 3: his hat on like I'm the best of the second

610
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Speaker 3: tier guys. Right, I'm not the superstar, but I'm the best.

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Speaker 3: I watched the Chiefs Minnesota game because he's a better

612
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: player tonight. Cli Perty's a better player. So if you're

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Speaker 3: no longer that and the way these contracts work, right

614
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 3: or wrong, it just it is what it is. Dak's

615
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Speaker 3: making forty million dollars a year, so the contract extension, listen,

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Speaker 3: it's just football inflation. He's gonna want forty five million

617
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Speaker 3: dollars a year. Like you said, sorry, I can't pay it.

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Speaker 3: The problem is, what the hell do you do, right,

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Speaker 3: because there's still gonna be a ten to eleven win team.

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Speaker 4: So do you just hope you can draft a guy?

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Speaker 4: Do you let them walk?

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Speaker 3: Trey Lance isn't even I mean, he not even in

623
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Speaker 3: the same universe as Dak Cooper Rush.

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Speaker 4: They're kind of in a weird spot.

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Speaker 1: So and here's what the Dak defenders say, We'll le

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Speaker 1: he's winning a lot of games. We'll time out. Aren't

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Speaker 1: you anam guys the one that always tell me that

628
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: winning is not a quarterback stat? Right, you can't have

629
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Speaker 1: it both ways. You can't lecture me on winning's not

630
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Speaker 1: a quarterback stat because if you look at Dax wins,

631
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Speaker 1: it's a lot of wins over Washington, over the Giants,

632
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: over crappy NFC teams. But again, let's go back to

633
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: the big games. They're not a very good big game team.

634
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: So you can't have it both ways. You can't tell

635
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Speaker 1: me Dak's great and he wins a lot of games,

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Speaker 1: and then simultaneously, all the smart people on the internet

637
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Speaker 1: is winning's not a quarterback stat. So, I mean, I

638
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: do think that Dak's intangibles are very very strong, leadership, smart,

639
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: pre snap all that stuff.

640
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 4: Works hard.

641
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like all that stuff, but just throwing darts

642
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: from the pocket or making plays with your feet, it's

643
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: not there.

644
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 3: Well at any moment. Josh Allen's, the Herberts, the Mahomes

645
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 3: can do something that like only l Way and Farbes

646
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: could do, right, Dak can't do that. So to be

647
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 3: the best version of that Tier two group, you can't

648
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 3: be turning it over.

649
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 4: Right.

650
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: There was that moment on Monday Night Football when when

651
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones throws the pick and Dable you can't. You're

652
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 3: not allowed to do We're not good enough with you

653
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: doing that. Dak had the moment tonight, threw the ball

654
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: in the center field to absolutely no man's land, a

655
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: pick that the guy just had to, you know, play

656
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 3: it like Willie Mays and even McCarthy was looking at

657
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 3: him a little sidey coming off the field. That can't

658
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 3: happen with you. And all we talked about all off

659
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: season was the turnovers. The turnovers cut him. You watch

660
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: him the night against a team that they are going

661
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 3: to have to beat in the second or the third

662
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 3: round if they want to go anywhere, and he's throwing

663
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 3: the ball to the other team easily. I mean the

664
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: third pick hit the guy in the hands. Now, maybe

665
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 3: his confidence is unraveled, but he just wasn't good enough

666
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 3: early beside really the one drive.

667
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 1: All right, I want to talk about Russell Wilson, Sean Payton,

668
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: Denver and the Jets. So I'm not a huge fan

669
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: of Zach Wilson. He's the opposite of Dak. I don't

670
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: like any of his intangibles. But he has a good arm.

671
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: But I don't like any of his intangibles. I don't

672
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: trust his leadership. I don't trust him priests. I don't

673
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: trust them in one of my franchise But he's got

674
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: a good arm. But I will say this about the Jets,

675
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: and I think this is where Robert Solid does a

676
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: good job. You're as good as your personnel allows you

677
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: to be. Right, if you're a real franchise coach, the

678
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: Jets do what their personnel allows them to do. They

679
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: have good running backs, they run it. They have a

680
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: good defense, they have a pass rush. They have good corners,

681
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: although they're all banged up. What the Jets can't do

682
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: they only have one legit big time receiver. They don't

683
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: have a very good quarterback, so there's limitations on what

684
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: they they can't get into track meets. But you know,

685
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: I watched them today. Denver doesn't do anything well. The

686
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: Jets do a couple of things really well. The things

687
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: they don't john They're personnel doesn't allow them to do that.

688
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: If Mikale Beckton, forget Zach Wilson, if Mikale Beckton would

689
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: have been a really high end left tackle, maybe I

690
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: think differently. But they got tackle issues, they got a

691
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: quarterback issue, so they can't get into track meets. That's

692
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: not what they can do. But when I watch Denver,

693
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: what do they do well?

694
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 4: Nothing?

695
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: I mean, you saw today. If the Jets get a lead,

696
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 3: that's where they're built, and the pass rush can tee

697
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,479
Speaker 3: off and their pass rush goes seven to eight deep

698
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: and they're as good as anyone in the NFL. To

699
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: me and listen, I saw it at the end of

700
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 3: Andy Reid's run. He had all this juice, all this power,

701
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 3: and every decision went through him, and it obviously unraveled.

702
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: That opened up perfectly for him because he went to

703
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 3: Kansas City and became an absolute legend. Now he has

704
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 3: mahomes and off and run. But when the coach has

705
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 3: so much power and won't listen to anyone else. And

706
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 3: even then Andy had Howie, he would listen to other people.

707
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 3: There is no one in that building Sean Payton's going

708
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 3: to listen to. And there is a powerful dynamic in

709
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: the NFL when you have a personnel guy that can

710
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 3: go that's not a good idea because coaches sometimes are

711
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: too close to the sun. Sure, they're desperate to get

712
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 3: mcglinchy's a great example. They gave him fifty million dollars.

713
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: There cannot be many personnel people in the league that

714
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 3: would have signed off on this pass. There's no he

715
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 3: You cannot sign to tackle the fifty million dollars.

716
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 4: That can't pass block You can't do it.

717
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: So you just moves like that, and Sean Payton's power

718
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 3: is only going to go up because George Payton will

719
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 3: probably be fired. He'll bring in his own guy. Well,

720
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: when he brings in his own guy, that guy's not

721
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 3: gonna have the Jews. That guy's gonna, you know, kind

722
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 3: of rely on Sean Payton and try to make him happy.

723
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 3: So the dynamics there are a little off. Sometimes it

724
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 3: can work right. Pete Carroll hired John Schneider, but immediately

725
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: John talked to him into rustle and he earned the

726
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: respect and it changed everything. I think that's an underrated

727
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 3: part of this because their issues are gonna be personnel oriented.

728
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 3: How do we improve, what do we do in the draft?

729
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 3: What kind of moves we can make? Sean has unlimited power,

730
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 3: and Sewn always had Mickey Loomis in New Orleans, who

731
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 3: he's even said is his best friend, trusted him, believed

732
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: in him. Even when you have trust, the two of

733
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 3: you won't always be right, but at least you'll make

734
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 3: decisions with mutual respect, and ultimately, whenever the decision was made,

735
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 3: you both move forward. Here, it's a kind of a

736
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 3: one man band. Sean's a coach and they got enough

737
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 3: issues on the field. He needs help in the personnel department.

738
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 3: And I could already see that, like, I don't know

739
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 3: how they fix that well.

740
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Speaker 1: And by the way, Bill Belichick, he's got too much power.

741
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: I mean, last year they drafted three guards and two kickers,

742
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: and this team has no speed and it's like a

743
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: ridiculous draft. Pete Carroll I thought had a few years

744
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: after Paul Allen's death, Remember when Snyder went to the

745
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: Lions to interview because Pete had usurped some of his power,

746
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: kind of power vacuum, and then last couple of years

747
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: Snyder has gotten some promise. There's guarantees he has more power.

748
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: They've had back to back great drafts. That doesn't mean

749
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: Pete doesn't know personnel. But it's hard enough to be

750
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: a great coach. You can't be a Pete.

751
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 4: And Pete looks better for that, right.

752
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 3: I think how much higher everyone thinks of Pete Carroll

753
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 3: now that he lets his GM influence these picks.

754
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 4: Now everyone benefits.

755
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's really interesting. I really like Sean, but

756
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: when he wanted the Chargers job, so when he so,

757
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: he and I were talking during the pursuit, right like

758
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: he was telling me. I didn't go on the air

759
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: with it, but he told me who he was, you know,

760
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: talking to. And then when the Denver thing came out,

761
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: he went kind of silent for a couple of weeks.

762
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: So I figured, okay, I just I know I get it,

763
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: so I stay away. I thought my takeaway was, well,

764
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: I think he'll make Russell better, and I think they'll

765
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: go from four or five wins to nine or ten.

766
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 1: But I think the issue is I think he solved

767
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: Russell to some degree. But Russell at the contract level

768
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: that will start next year is not good enough for

769
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: that contract if he was making twelve million a year

770
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: twenty forty fifty five. So I think when Sean took

771
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: the job, somebody offered him a lot of money, and money,

772
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: you know, gives you power and makes you feel confident,

773
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: but it's not. It was not, Frankly John, a great job.

774
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: You had to either have a superstar quarterback in their prime,

775
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, Alan Lamar or my homes right right, Herbert, Okay,

776
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: that's a great job. The Chargers now is a great job.

777
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: Buffalo is a great job. Or you have to have

778
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: a super talented rookie on a rookie deal. CJ. Stroud,

779
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: Dimiko Ryan suddenly may have himself a really good job, right,

780
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. What's not a good job is a wildly

781
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: expensive contract for a guy who's lost his fastball. So

782
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 1: this is a great example. This is a prime example

783
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: of Sean. I think he's already good coach. I think

784
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: he took a job that's not right now a really

785
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: good job.

786
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: Well, and think about this, there's two Listen. Obviously, you

787
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 3: get ninety million dollars. He's making eighteen million dollars a year.

788
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 3: Ninety nine percent of humans take the job, especially coaches.

789
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 3: They always view jobs like they can fix it. But

790
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 3: there's a dynamic as part of accepting this job that

791
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 3: doesn't get discussed very much. And Sean brought this up.

792
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 3: I think at the combine he had planned to go

793
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 3: as a package deal with Vic Fangio like they were,

794
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 3: but Vic obviously had just gotten fired a year ago

795
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: from Denver wasn't going to go back, so Vic he

796
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: couldn't take Vic Fangil with him. So part of Russell Wilson,

797
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: if this was gonna work, they were gonna have to

798
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: be really good on defense, right, be a defensive team,

799
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 3: be kind of conservative on offense, like that's how they

800
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: were gonna have to play. For a couple of years,

801
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 3: Vance Jose has been terrible, and in fairness, Sean had

802
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 3: the right guy. But he even said like Vic just

803
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: wouldn't do it. It was too uncomfortable. He had literally just

804
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: been fired twelve months before. So yeah, it worked for

805
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 3: Sean getting the money, but big picture of how he

806
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 3: wanted to build the franchise with the defensive coordinator he

807
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 3: wanted and the quarterback he was going to be forced

808
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: to work with because of the contract.

809
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 4: Yeah.

810
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: I mean, we'll see this year some of these jobs

811
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 3: that open. If the number one overall pick job opens,

812
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: I think it's easy to kind of play Monday morning

813
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 3: quarterback and go. That was probably a major mistake by

814
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: him rushing into it a little bit just because he

815
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: had the itch.

816
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,959
Speaker 4: And listen, that's coaching. Remember when Jim Harbaugh took the job,

817
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 4: people like got a forty nine er situation. That's a disaster.

818
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 4: So you know coaches that they're sick, Colin, that they

819
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 4: really are.

820
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 3: That they view things for as much as they get paid,

821
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 3: they also think this this deep down confidence in their

822
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 3: own abilities to change things. And let's face it, in

823
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 3: this league, like Kyle Shanahan looks a lot better with

824
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 3: the guys he has than he does three or four

825
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: years ago when he had scrubs around him.

826
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Speaker 1: Another game I want to talk about. I did it

827
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: in my preamble, Philadelphia beat the Rams. Philadelphia is the

828
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: one team that could match up with San Francisco in

829
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: the NFC. I love Jalen Hurts. I didn't know he

830
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: was going to be this. You know. My takeaway was

831
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: he was when he came into the league. I'm like,

832
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what is he? What is he is?

833
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: You know he can move? I didn't know what he was.

834
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: And then he gets Shane Steiken and it's interesting. So

835
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 1: he gets Shane Steikeen, and once Nick Sirianni gives Shane

836
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: Stikeen the play calling duties, he explodes. So Shane leaves

837
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: and Jalen first couple of weeks is just scuffing. He's

838
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: trying to get it. And then you've watched the last

839
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: couple of games, it's like the kid worked so hard.

840
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: Now he's starting to refine it without Shane Stikeen. And

841
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: we've seen this before. You have a coordinator Matt Ryan,

842
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: and you get this great cord Kyle Shanahan, You're amazing

843
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: MVP level. He leaves, you're never the same player. But

844
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: I think a testament to Jalen Hurts and just his

845
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: ability to be coachable. I have watched him now for

846
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: five weeks. Just get a little better and a little better,

847
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: and it's hard. It's like losing your best friend. It's

848
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: like losing your best boss at work, your sales manager

849
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: in your an account executive, and you're just off and

850
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: I felt Jalen was like, because Stiken's really a brilliant guy.

851
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: You see it again today I was gonna say this,

852
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: I think Stiken calls as good a game as anybody

853
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: in the league. I'm watching today with Gardner Minshew and

854
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, shit, this is this guy can call a game.

855
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 4: They didn't skip a beat, not a bit.

856
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: And I mean Gardner Minshew, but I'm like, God is

857
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: clever and and you lose a Kyle Shanahan level a coordinator.

858
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: And I watched today Jalen Hurts and I'm like, man,

859
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: that kid, he is just I think that team has

860
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: such strong belief in Jalen Hurts. He had a couple

861
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: of plays today when he scrambled a act stayed on

862
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: his feet and I'm like.

863
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 4: That was an incredible run.

864
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: It was it just like God, I there's just Jalen

865
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: Hurts is one of those players. I don't know if

866
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: I was a professional scout and used to do this,

867
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what I would have put on paper

868
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: I had. I never saw this coming, did you what.

869
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 3: He's a great result or a great example of the

870
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: intangible stuff being so powerful. He has improved dramatic even

871
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 3: the Eagles. I mean, they never thought he would be

872
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 3: this one thing today happened though, and I jotted it

873
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 3: down because I tension in football can be very healthy.

874
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: The Patriots had it forever. I'm talking like players with

875
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 3: the coaches during games. As long as you know, losing teams,

876
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 3: it unravels. But winning teams they harness it and then

877
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 3: they like improve on the next drive. Jalen threw a

878
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 3: terrible pick in like the the front pylon of the

879
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: end zone to Witherspoon, who actually made an incredible play

880
00:45:55,560 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 3: he did, and Siriani lights him up. I mean, they

881
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: just start going and Jalen kind of takes it. How

882
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 3: many guys in the NFL in twenty twenty three, just

883
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 3: pro sports in general, making forty five million dollars a year,

884
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: who just had the Super Bowl? He had that That

885
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 3: never happens anymore, even in football, and even I think

886
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 3: burke Hart and Olsen, we're calling that game, and even

887
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 3: like Dad's a coach, he asked for this, he wants it.

888
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 3: And then there was another moment Jason Kelsey getting on

889
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 3: the coaches. But it never feels destructive. It never feels

890
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 3: like there's these guys are like players against coaches, coaches

891
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 3: against players.

892
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 4: It's all we're kind of in the boat together.

893
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 3: You're talking about there, the greatest offensive lineman the franchise

894
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 3: ever had is going to the Hall of Fame and

895
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: they're forty five to fifty million dollars quarterback, and it's like, yeah,

896
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 3: it's just normal. They handle it. Their character. I've seen

897
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 3: it with the Niners. They have it to Andy's staff

898
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 3: is not they don't really yell as much, but they

899
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 3: have the same thing. It's just we will do whatever

900
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: it takes to improve on the next drive to get

901
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 3: it right. Where a lot of teams the coach has

902
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: to be right, the player gets it's bitter and there's

903
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 3: like this animosity. The Eagles do not have that, And

904
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 3: it all starts with their player's character.

905
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it starts with Jalen Hurts. I mean I've

906
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: heard this before about Mac Jones, is that he can

907
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: be very prickly with hard coaching, right, like he can

908
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: be very prickly. Jalen Hurts totally accepts it. And if

909
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback who got the bag accepts it, then everybody

910
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: has to accept it. And I think that's i you know,

911
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: because that was that was an interesting pick. It was

912
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: in the end zone.

913
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 4: If I recall that, it was, yeah, the front pylon

914
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 4: of the.

915
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was funny because the Eagles

916
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: are now five and zero. I don't think they played

917
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 1: a great football game, but I said earlier, I don't

918
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: think I've seen a team now. Maybe the Niners tonight

919
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: physically imposed their will. The Rams never had the ball

920
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: in the second happen in Philadelphia, and it was really smart.

921
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: They're like, we're just gonna eat this clock, maybe an

922
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: occasional AJ Brown, We're just gonna get four and a

923
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: half yards. And you could just see the Rams the

924
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: body language and they were tired, and it was like,

925
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: there's a culture.

926
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: And by the way, this impressive game by the Rams call,

927
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 3: I mean they hang a rock.

928
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, they are much.

929
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 3: Better than I thought that they really. I thought they

930
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: got Caleb Williams written all over them. Pooka Nakula looks fantastic.

931
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 3: Stafford's playing well, Donald's still playing his ass off.

932
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 4: They're gonna compete for a wildcard spot for sure.

933
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 3: One more thing here, Colin, I saw a lot today

934
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 3: on the internet. You have to protect Anthony Richardson. You

935
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 3: can't let him play like this well. Part of drafting

936
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 3: Cam Newton Anthony Richardson RG three I.

937
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 4: Saw last year with Trey Lance. You can't run him around.

938
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 4: That's what he well.

939
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 3: Trade didn't, but those other guys do well. And right now,

940
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson, running is his greatest attribute. And then off

941
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: that he's gonna be fifty percent completion, hit some big plays.

942
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 3: So today when he hurts his shoulder like that is

943
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 3: a strength of his right now, he cannot just sit

944
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 3: in the pocket throw or they will have no shot.

945
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: So I can't blame Shane Stiken for running him around

946
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 3: when that is his positive attribute.

947
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: Curer go back to early Big Ben. Big Ben was

948
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: a little over his skis for even the great team

949
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: his first year. Yeah, but part of what made him

950
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 1: great is it was backyard Thanksgiving Day football where Ben

951
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: would just take the It was like a NERF game

952
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: and Ben's running around with the ball in his hands

953
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: like otherwise, Ben was not good enough pre snap he

954
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: came from Miami of Ohio. He just wasn't good enough.

955
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: You had to let Big Ben run and so and

956
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: I think Cam was a much more refined product than

957
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: Big Ben. First during the league. You know, Cam had

958
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: played a sec he'd seen played against great players. But

959
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,959
Speaker 1: I remember Big Ben Early was one of the first

960
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: times I'm like, oh no, no, no, you just got

961
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: to let him do backyard football a little bit. And

962
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: I know it's a structured Steeler environment, but Miami of

963
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: Ohio to the Pittsburgh Steelers playing an AFC championship games, like,

964
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: you got to let dudes be dude it. By the way,

965
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson has gotten banged up. A couple of them

966
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: have not been like violent hits while he's running. He's

967
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: a He is just a kid that likes contact. That

968
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: he's a big body. Sometimes I think with Anthony Richardson,

969
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: Big Ben Cam, big strong athletes, Herbert's done this.

970
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 4: They have no idea.

971
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: They think they're bulletproof. I've seen Justin Herbert put his

972
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: shoulder down on a two hundred and seventy five pounds

973
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: defensive and I'll say, Justin, it's not high school football

974
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: against Roseburg High School.

975
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 3: I think the concerning part about Anthony Richardson is sometimes

976
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 3: and listen, Herbert hasn't really missed time, right, but.

977
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 4: He's been banged up a lot.

978
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 3: I don't remember early Young Cam ever, getting hurt. I mean,

979
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 3: he was probably physically hurting, but he could play listen.

980
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 3: I mean, sometimes he's just random because you see Anthony Rigarson, like,

981
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 3: this guy's indestructible. He has to be feeling that because

982
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 3: he's running by and over guys. The problem is unlike

983
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 3: those guys, he's not getting up. Yeah, so that would be.

984
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 3: And sometimes certain guys, for whatever reason, big, small, all

985
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 3: sorts of shapes and sizes, just get hurt more for

986
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 3: whatever reason. And it's not the you know, the trainer's fault,

987
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 3: it's not the weight room guy's fault.

988
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 4: It's just their body. Because like you said today, what

989
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 4: was a pretty just normal football play.

990
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 3: You see a lot of even non running quarterbacks kind

991
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 3: of scramble and get tackled that I'd be a little

992
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 3: scared that. I don't know what we need to do

993
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 3: with this young guy. But he's kind of getting banged

994
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,919
Speaker 3: up in pretty uh, I would say random play.

995
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 4: He's not maliciously violent, just absurd hits.

996
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I it's it's one of those things where

997
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: I just love watching him play. And he's the culture

998
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: lucky to have him, and he's lucky to have Shane

999
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: Steichen And now Jonathan Taylor and I by the way,

1000
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: I think this was an example where Jonathan Taylor was

1001
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: aided by a couple of these injuries. I think Chris

1002
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: Patler looked at this thought, we got to take some

1003
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: carries out of Anthony Richardson. We got to stop. I mean,

1004
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: I honestly think everybody, Oh, running backs don't get paid,

1005
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, no, the Colts guys got paid

1006
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: a Saquon by the way, because of Daniel jones inefficiency.

1007
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: Saquon got paid. I still think with Mike Williams out,

1008
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: Austin Eckler, you know I need him around, So I

1009
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: do think in this instant Jonathan Taylor, I think Chris

1010
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: Botler looked at it and thought, Mike, Mike, quarterback's getting

1011
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: he's getting hit too much. I got to give somebody

1012
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 1: else the football.

1013
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 4: Also, my coach is good enough. I'm looking around my division.

1014
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 4: Why couldn't we win this thing?

1015
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: Right?

1016
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 4: Why why couldn't we go ten and seven and win

1017
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 4: the division?

1018
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 3: That bad division? Shane Steiken looks like he's got a

1019
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 3: chance to be a home run. Demiko Ryans looks like

1020
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 3: pretty damn good Coade. Obviously, v abel a stud that's

1021
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 3: Doug Peterson's Super Bowl champ. Pretty good coaching in the

1022
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: in the AFC South.

1023
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: Right, Now, let's talk for a couple of minutes. We

1024
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: must because we both love college football. So here was

1025
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: my take on USC's near loss. Notre Dame was next.

1026
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: They were a three touchdown favorite home against Arizona, and

1027
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: they can see Notre Dame Utah washing. They know, players

1028
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: know they're three touchdowns favorites. So part of it is

1029
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 1: that had it had close game written all over it. Secondly,

1030
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: outside of Washington, Arizona has the best receiving tandem McMillan

1031
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: and Jacob Cowling in the conference.

1032
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 4: Those guys are pros and they're good. Arizona's not bad.

1033
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: No, and the Trojans don't have great corners, so the

1034
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: game was going to be high scoring. The other thing is, uh,

1035
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: and this is you get into a weird spot us.

1036
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: He's a terrible tackling team. Terrible, So I don't know

1037
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 1: what that is. Is it practice? Is it the fact

1038
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: that their safeties and corners have to make so many tackles.

1039
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: Those are not your best tacklers. It's they don't bring

1040
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: down guys in our first shot. But when I look

1041
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: at USC. My takeaways, they'll beat Notre Dame because they're

1042
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: built to beat average offenses with good defenses. They all

1043
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: they're just they're going to score thirty five points. That's

1044
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: just what they're going to do. I don't think they

1045
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: can beat Oregon. I don't think they can beat Washington.

1046
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: Ucla is getting better every time I watch them. What

1047
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: do you make of the battle inside of program? When

1048
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: Caleb in an offense is carrying it? How good is

1049
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: USC's personnel in your opinion?

1050
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, to me it Lincoln is a Mike Leach guy, right,

1051
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 3: spend a lot of time there. That's what shaped his

1052
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 3: philosophical beliefs, and he's kind of morphed it off that Well,

1053
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 3: that offense you practice, you only have so many guys

1054
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 3: on the football team. Your offense practice against your defense,

1055
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 3: right when you go up against the Eagles or the

1056
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 3: forty nine ers every day, Right, there's just a physicality

1057
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 3: in practice. Look look at Jim Harbaugh. Over the time,

1058
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 3: as he's gotten better players, his team is dramatically more physical.

1059
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 3: Urban Meyer always had this. Nick Saban's had this on

1060
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 3: most of his teams because that's how you play on offense. Well,

1061
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 3: His offense has always been spread it out, throw it

1062
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 3: to the outside, especially now because they are so predicated

1063
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 3: on these outside, sweet wide receivers. It doesn't even if

1064
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 3: you're personnel, you don't have Ray mal Luga and Brian

1065
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 3: Cushing walking through that door.

1066
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 4: It's harder to improve.

1067
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 3: When you're running sideline the sideline in practice and not

1068
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 3: taking things on. So what happens sometimes guys just run

1069
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,439
Speaker 3: it down their throat because to me, their front seven

1070
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 3: doesn't look that physical. I will say this though, from

1071
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 3: an evaluation standpoint of Caleb. Sometimes I get a lot

1072
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 3: of my buddies like, tell your boy Colin to slow

1073
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 3: down the hype train. You know, scouts are always big

1074
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 3: on us the way, and I was like this when

1075
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 3: I was in the league, and I'm like it now.

1076
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 3: I get excited watching guys and Caleb's talent is immense,

1077
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 3: but you know, you don't.

1078
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 4: Draft just purely off hype.

1079
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 3: Right now, his talent and what he's doing now at

1080
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 3: Oklahoma and even last year, for the most part, it

1081
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 3: became very very easy to them.

1082
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 4: This year it's a little more difficult.

1083
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 3: They're playing in all these close games, even in conference,

1084
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 3: so you're seeing him the.

1085
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 4: Spot last night where it was like he had to

1086
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 4: carry him.

1087
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 3: If he screwed up, they lose, and he made remarkable

1088
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 3: because the only negative thing I've heard is from an

1089
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 3: executive that said, you know, we have them kind of

1090
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 3: their verified measurement slightly under six.

1091
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 4: Feet it's like six oos.

1092
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 3: But he's not small. You saw the play last night

1093
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 3: when he carried the defender in the end zone. So

1094
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 3: he's thick and his arm is just absolutely and last

1095
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 3: night his moxie and his I mean, Lincoln called was

1096
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 3: it in overtime when he did the shift place doing weird,

1097
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 3: but Caleb just refused to let him lose and made

1098
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 3: a play one on one with the guy. I actually

1099
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 3: am learning more about Caleb in those moments than you

1100
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 3: do when they're just routing Stanford seventy five to three, right.

1101
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 3: So you see him pressed, You see him making these

1102
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 3: plays against teams that you could argue they should be

1103
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 3: blown out, but because of their defense, they're just not.

1104
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 3: So if he doesn't score on an every drive basis,

1105
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 3: it's like the Cowboys and Niners. If Dak didn't throw

1106
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 3: four touchdowns to night, they had no chance. And he

1107
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 3: doesn't have that capability where Caleb's like, yeah, I gotta

1108
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 3: throw seven touchdowns and run for two more. I'll do

1109
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 3: it right, and that to me, it's like we talked

1110
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 3: about brock Perty. He played on some of those teams

1111
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 3: where he had to be awesome for them to upset somebody,

1112
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 3: and he did a lot of the times in college

1113
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 3: why he was two time Big twelve Player of the Year.

1114
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: The only knock I've seen is that sometimes he can

1115
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: get a little off on his accuracy, but he usually

1116
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: self correct next drive. But I have found josh Allen Mahomes.

1117
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: I think hyper athletic players sometimes they like their mechanics

1118
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: go a little sideways because they're moving around, Whereas Brady's

1119
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: mechanics were great because he had to have great mechanics.

1120
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 4: You know, Burn, Yeah, Burrow.

1121
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: But I do think I do think he gets a

1122
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: little off on his mechanics. Sometimes he didn't get sloppy.

1123
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: But he's such a bright kid. I know him pretty well.

1124
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: He's self corrects really really quickly. I don't see a

1125
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: lot of weaknesses.

1126
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 3: He's going to have to be absolutely remarkable in my

1127
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 3: opinion for them to be in the Pac twelve Championship game,

1128
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 3: because now that they don't have like the North and South.

1129
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 3: It's just the best two teams right record wise, they

1130
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 3: feel to me more like ten and two. Yeah, and

1131
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 3: if Oregon and Washington, whoever loses that game still runs

1132
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 3: the table and beats them, because I have a hard

1133
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 3: time seeing them beat organ in Washington the way they're

1134
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 3: playing right now.

1135
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they would. In fact, I think

1136
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: I think I don't think Washington's defense is great. They

1137
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: have a couple of good players. I think Oregon could

1138
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: hammer them. I mean, I think that game's in Otson.

1139
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 3: That's trouble and the other thing USC could. We'll see

1140
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 3: how Utah's playing. But the Utah's defense is unreal. So

1141
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 3: that's just and we saw last year they beat him twice.

1142
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 3: That's just a tough game for Caleb and the offense.

1143
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 4: Right right.

1144
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: John Middlecoff three and out former NFL scout, Good stuff,

1145
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: John Good talking again.

1146
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 4: Take it easy, gone

1147
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 3: The volume.