1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Hey, Discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, 5 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party. 6 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after 7 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: the party. The bridge to get you from one full 8 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: episode or Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig 9 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: into the dirt. On this episode, we are talking, among 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: other things, once again about the Notorious Big some disgraceful 11 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: new metal, Ricky Powell, Bismarcky, and of course your voicemails, text, 12 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: dms and more, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. 13 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: All right, Discos, let's get into it. 14 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 2: All right. 15 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: In this week's re release of Part two of The 16 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: Notorious Big Story, we get further into the infamous East 17 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: Coast West Coast Beef, but also into Biggie's life after Tupac, 18 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: his inspiration as an artist, and the mystery behind his 19 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: still unsolved murder. Still unsolved? Can you believe this is 20 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,919 Speaker 1: twenty six years ago? But recently there was some news 21 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: related to Tupac secures murder the Nevada home of Keith D, 22 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: one of the two living eyewitnesses to Tupac's murder. His 23 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: home was recently rated and now, at the time of 24 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: the taping of this after party episode, The Sun newspaper 25 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: in the UK is reporting that Keith D is facing 26 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: quote unquote imminent charges related to Tupac's murder. Not sure 27 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: how credible the Sun is just throwing that out there, 28 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: But add to that, one of the former detectives who 29 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: worked on Biggie's case is saying that whatever evidence they're 30 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: collecting from Keith D may actually help solve Biggie's murder 31 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 1: as well. So what do you think onto something here 32 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: be getting warmer? Feels like every couple months or sorry, 33 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: years or whatever, something pops up that teases us and 34 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: lets us think that we're finally going to get to 35 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: the finally going to get to the end of this. 36 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: I almost feel like, if we were to know who 37 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: actually killed Biggie or Tupac, would we even pay attention 38 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: to it in today's media landscape, Would it even cut through? 39 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I know it would cut through immediately, but 40 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: I almost feel like the mystery around their death is 41 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: way bigger than any potential solving of the case could be. 42 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: You can hear at the end of this Notorious Big episode, 43 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: the part two episode that we just released, you can 44 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: hear where I'm coming from with my feelings on who 45 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: killed them and what the motivation could have been. So 46 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: because of that, because of my thoughts on this, it's 47 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: easy for me to see why one of the former 48 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: detectives who worked on the case, like I just mentioned, 49 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: would say that whatever evidence is found on Keith d 50 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: might act helped authorities find out who killed Big the 51 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: Big the Big One, the notorious Big One. This topic, 52 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: still twenty six years later, is a hot one. And 53 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: I don't mean popular one, I mean dangerous one. The 54 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: killers are still out there. I believe that. I believe that, 55 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: at least in the case of Tupac, the killer still 56 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: holds influence and is still dangerous and still capable of killing. 57 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: And I think that that is very much why no 58 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: one will actually say who they think killed Tupac. If 59 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: you watch interviews with people who were involved, I mean 60 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: friends of his other artists in the music industry, same 61 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: thing goes for when they talk about who killed Biggie. 62 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: You can kind of see a pattern develop and how 63 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: they answer questions in what they don't say, and I 64 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: use that. I use that as a guiding guide post 65 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: for me on writing these big episodes. And again, you 66 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: know what I just said about Tupac's killer being out there, 67 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: the same holds for Biggie's killer. Not only is he 68 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: still out there, I believe that the forces that brought 69 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: down Big are bigger and more dangerous than the forces 70 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: that brought down Tupac Secure. So, uh, you know, there's 71 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: a question I asked at the end of this episode, 72 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: the part two episode on Biggie. The question is who 73 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: stood to gain from the death of the notorious Big. 74 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: Lots of potential people stood the game was at his 75 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: record label, his manager, the LAPD Tupac supporters. There is 76 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: a long, long list. So who who stood to gain 77 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: from Biggie Small's dying? Six one seven nine oh six 78 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: six six three eight. The question this week is simple, 79 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: who do you think killed the notorious Big? Leave me 80 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: a voicemail or send me a text just like the 81 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: eight five to nine chiming in here on their way 82 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: to work. 83 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 3: Hey Jake, this is shown from the eight point nine 84 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 3: Uh calling. 85 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 4: In on my way to work. 86 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: Listening to the most recent Bonus episode you had asked 87 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: about feuds and music from of the greatest views of 88 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: all time, you said that you aren't too sure about 89 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 3: any country music, and one that immediately came to mind, 90 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: especially considering you know, you recently put out the Merle 91 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: Haggard episode. People keep calling in requesting Wayalem Jennings episodes. Well, actually, 92 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 3: Merle and Whalon had a bit of a beef circa 93 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty nine, Waylon Jennings and Merle got into 94 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: a poker game and Merle and I think it was 95 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: his manager at the time, I remember it was Fuzzy Owens. 96 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: But anyway, Merle and Fuzzy Whylan thinks that they set 97 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 3: him up and took all his money because Whalen had 98 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,559 Speaker 3: anywhere between four and five thousand dollars on this game, 99 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 3: and he lost and was bitter about it. And even 100 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: though both of those guys were friends with Johnny Cash, 101 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: Willie Nelson and you know other outlaws in the scene, 102 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 3: you know, they. 103 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: Just couldn't get along. Whalen never forgot about that, you know, 104 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: he still held over Merle's head. So a lot of people, 105 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: you know, they wonder why Merle wasn't in the highwayman. 106 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: This is a big part of the reason why. But anyway, 107 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: I love the podcast. 108 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: I know you've asked in the past about what we 109 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: do and where we listen, like I said, listening on 110 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 3: the road. And also while I'm at work, I work 111 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: at big as fans. I guess you could say on 112 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: the biggest Fans the Great Disgrace Land. She keeps doing 113 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: what you're doing and. 114 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: Rock rolla all right, Sean, I had no idea about 115 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: this Merle Haggard and Whalon Jennings dust up. See that's 116 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: the thing, that's that's why this thing of ours, this 117 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: quote unquote thing of ours works. I share info with 118 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: you guys. You guys hit me the classic country beefs 119 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: and have no fear. We will get to a Whaleen 120 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: Jennings episode paging Zeth lundy uh sometime in the near future. 121 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, like I said previously, you can 122 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: check out the video we have on Whalen on our 123 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: YouTube channel that's YouTube dot com slash at Disgrace lampod. 124 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: But back to the voicemails, Judy. Judy from the three 125 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: oh nine sounds like a clash song, do isn't it? 126 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: Judy from The Three on nine? All right, Judy, what 127 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: do you got. 128 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 5: Hey, Jake? I am calling from three h nine and 129 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 5: I was listening to a bonus episode. Not sure which one, 130 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 5: but you asked about non biopic music movies. 131 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 6: Or something to that extent, and I don't think this 132 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 6: is a bio. I think it's just an amalgamation of 133 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 6: different stories that are similar to maybe musicians, well, definitely 134 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 6: similar to musicians. 135 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 5: That have lived, but I don't. 136 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 6: Think it's about anyone in particular. 137 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 5: It's American pop. It's an animated movie. 138 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 6: I love it is my favorite. 139 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 5: It is so just layered. 140 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 6: When you really get into it and watch it, the 141 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 6: animation is crude and raw. With the music, it's just 142 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 6: a great experience. So I suggest that I didn't mention 143 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 6: my name. My name is Judy again, Colin from the 144 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 6: Three on I have a great day, Balta. 145 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: Rolla, Judy, thank you. I've never seen American pop. I 146 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: don't think it's not this. No, I'm thinking of heavy metal. 147 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: That's someone from the seventies. When is American pop from 148 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: two Thousand's what I got to figure this out. I'll 149 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: look into American pop. Judy, thank you. I appreciate the voicemail. 150 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: Let's check out this one from Terry all the way 151 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: out in Idaho in the two. 152 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 7: Eight Hey Jay gets Terry from way out in Idaho 153 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 7: again the two to eight music Movies. I'm gonna have 154 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 7: to say I am a huge Prince fan. So Purple Rain. 155 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 7: I know that probably won't go down on a lot 156 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 7: of people's list, but it's one of my favorites. Bohemian 157 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 7: Rhapsody is up there. I also have to say I'm 158 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 7: a Motley Crue fan, so I loved the Dirt and 159 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 7: eight Mile was a good one with Eminem so really 160 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 7: love that. Anyway, keep up the great work and rock Corolla. 161 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: Terry, thank you for the call. I love Purple Rain 162 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: because I love Prince. But I'm going to say something 163 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: that I don't think is controversial. But who knows Prince 164 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: is not a good actor. We love Prince and because 165 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: we love him, I feel like that compensates in Purple Rain, 166 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: at least for his lack of acting. Chops, Yeah, I 167 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: still love the movie. His shitty acting doesn't really affect 168 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: it for me. He just looks good on a motorcycle. 169 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: What can I say, what else did you talk about here? 170 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: The Dirt. The Dirt was good, especially Tony Cavallero is 171 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: Ozzy Osbourne and that scene with the ants, But it's 172 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: hard to compete with that book. I don't know if 173 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: you've read The Dirt, the Neil Strauss book, but it 174 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: is incredible. I think it's the only book I've ever 175 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: read in one sitting where I just started reading it 176 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: and I stopped everything I was doing, and I could 177 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: not stop reading it until I was done. I remember 178 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: exactly where I was. I was in I was on 179 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: the Upper east Side in my friend Julie Duffy's apartment 180 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: back when she lived in New York, and we'ld go 181 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: out on tour managing John Cooper, Mellen Camp and justin 182 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: Timberlake and let me crash your place when she was gone. 183 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: Awesome of you, Julie, still thanking you after all these years. 184 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: But I remember she had a copy of The Dirt 185 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: on her bookshelf when I got to her place, and 186 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: I mustn't have had anything to do that day and night, 187 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: because I just planted my ass down in one of 188 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: Julie's chairs and I just read and read and read 189 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: and read, and all these years later, it's a it's 190 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: a Netflix thing and we're still talking about it. But 191 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: that's because the book is so damn good. So Terry, 192 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: check out the book The Dirt by Neil Strauss if 193 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: you haven't already. And thanks for your bad Lands answers 194 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: as well. I'll get back to you separately on your 195 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: movie stuff over in the wrap party. All right, let's 196 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: check in with Billy for the two to one to zero, Jake. 197 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 4: You got Billy here from the two to one zero 198 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 4: in San Antonio, Texas, And I'm calling in a reference 199 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 4: to one of your previous after party questions. So I 200 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 4: just wanted to, like, you know what I've been listening 201 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 4: too lately in reference to what you first mentioned, I've 202 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 4: been revisiting a lot of old school well really, I 203 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 4: mean just nineteen eighty stuff like Talking Heads, Depeche Mode 204 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 4: and nine inch Snails. But man, you were talking about this, 205 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 4: you know, I can't I can't believe that you like, 206 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 4: you've never seen NASA ron Killers or you didn't like 207 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 4: it the first time when you saw it, because it's crazy. 208 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 4: Oliver Stone he directed that flick, and then he hired 209 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 4: Trent Reznor from nine Inch Snails of nine and Snails 210 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 4: is nine Inch Nails to produce the soundtrack for the film. 211 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 4: So I don't know if you've rewatched it, but you 212 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 4: might like it the second time around much more because 213 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 4: in my personal opinion, I don't know which is better 214 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 4: the film or the soundtrack. So you might want to 215 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 4: challenge yourself on that one, friend, I think it will 216 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 4: be thoroughly surprised. But keep on keeping on, man, keep doing, 217 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 4: you know, keep touring the best work that everybody implores 218 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 4: you to continue doing. And I'm a huge fan of yours. Yeah, 219 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 4: you're an inspiration, brother. 220 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 3: Be good, Take. 221 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: Care, Billy. I did not know about the Resnor angle 222 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: with Natural Born Killers, but I'll indeed get back into 223 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: it and check it out. I love having a reason 224 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: to rewatch movies and challenge my initial opinions about things, 225 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: and your timing is great. Just heard a Resnor piece 226 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: from the Social Network soundtrack and popped up on my shuffle. 227 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: I was blown away by him and Atticus Fitch. Am 228 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: I saying that right? But yeah, I'll check out natural 229 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: Born Killers for no other reason, like you said, just 230 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: for the soundtrack. And it's been decades since I've seen 231 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: that movie, so kind of excited to have a reason 232 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: to dive back into it, even though it was just 233 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: reading Tarantino's comments about how much he still dislikes that 234 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: that movie. All right, six one seven, nine oh six, 235 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: six six three eight. If you want to leave me 236 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: a voicemail on anything that we're discussing here in Disgraceland, 237 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: I love loving these recommendations from you guys on best 238 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: non music biopic music movies. That's a mouthful, But this 239 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: week's question, you know, keep those, keep those answers coming 240 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: if you got them. But this week's question is who 241 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: killed the notorious Big Doesn't get more true crimey and 242 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: more music true crime than that. Check out the latest 243 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: re release of the two Biggie episodes we did part 244 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: two just hit It's at the top of your feeds. 245 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: You can check that out to refresh your memory. Hit 246 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: me back with your theories on who killed Biggie Smalls. 247 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: We'll take We'll take theories on who killed Tupac as well, 248 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: whatever whatever other questions you have voicemails texts six one 249 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: seven nine oh six six six three eight. I'm gonna 250 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: take a quick break. Be back after this with some 251 00:13:51,120 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: answers to your text some dms and more. Yes, yes, 252 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: we are back, so let's dive into some of your texts. 253 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: You can text me as you know six one seven 254 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight. Got this one 255 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: here from the eight one four Hi, Jake, my name 256 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: is Chad and I'm from the eight one to four 257 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: area of Pennsylvania and I have been listening to you 258 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: since you started work on Disgraceland and bad Lands while 259 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: at work while I cut the grass at home. I 260 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: work in a manufacturing plant that makes fuel related items 261 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: like some pumps and LCD screens for gas stations and 262 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: depots all over the world. My family and I recently 263 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: took a trip to Virginia Beach and I introduced them 264 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: to your podcast during the drive. They loved your writing 265 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: and storytelling abilities. Keep up the great work and thank 266 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: you for all your hard work. I would love to 267 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: hear something about the early few between Roger Waters and 268 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: David Gilmour someday if you could. Much love. Thanks for 269 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: the text, Chad, appreciate it that you're spreading the Disgraceland 270 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: to your family. You must have some older kids, I hope, 271 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: but yeah, Roger Waters and David Gilmore. We're gonna do 272 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: a Pink Foyd Part two at some point, and I 273 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: believe we'll get into that, all right. This one comes 274 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: in from the five one eight Hot on the Conspiracy Line. 275 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: Hey Jake Chuck in the five poe eight again, I 276 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: heard you talking about Mark David Chapman on the pod today. 277 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: Are familiar with the theory. Are you familiar with the 278 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: theory that John Lennon was assassinated but not necessarily by Chapman. 279 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of it. Maybe it's 280 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: similar to your John Denver pod. Anyway, attaching a link 281 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: to the pod, I am familiar with it, and I 282 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: don't put any stock in that. But hey Man, Free Country. 283 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: You can believe what you want to believe. But everything 284 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: I've read leads me to believe that Chapman was the guy. 285 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: Not even a question, all right? All right? This one 286 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: comes from the six seven eight. Hey Jake, this is 287 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: Erica from the six seven eight ATL. I'm a new 288 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: listener to your podcast and I love it. Shout out 289 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: to my coworker Steve, who introduced me to the Disgracelam podcast. 290 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: And then I saw you had one about movie stars 291 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: and I said to myself, this is amazing. I'm a big, 292 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: huge movie person, so thank you for the podcast. You 293 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: got it. This is going to a bad Lands direction, 294 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna keep rolling with it. With that being said, 295 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: I was on my way with work, looking for an 296 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: episode to listen to and find one about Kerry Fisher. 297 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: And as I'm listening to, I got on the highway 298 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: and this black jeto was in front of me and 299 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: I noticed their license plate. Immediately said, oh mg, the 300 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: license plate r at Obi wan Kenobi. I couldn't believe it. 301 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what this means, but it was interesting enough. 302 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: I had to reach out to tell you about it, 303 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: and this won't be the last time you hear from me. 304 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: I got a lot of catching up to do. Well, 305 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: all right, And then she sends in. Erica sends in 306 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: the picture of the Obi wan Kenoby license plate from 307 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: the jet. I got a little it was a little 308 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: bad lance text there. I thought it was gonna be 309 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: an after party disgraceland text, but hey, we'll keep it. 310 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: Let's see what else we got from the four six' 311 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: nine subject music industry Beefs, jake what About David? Crosby 312 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: And Steven. Stills crosby said something offensive About still's girlfriend 313 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: and they never got past. It is that really what it? 314 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: Was that's fucked? Up if that, was that's fucked up 315 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: for many different. Reasons, one why are you saying something 316 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: offensive about your? Bandmates? GIRL i, mean come? On and 317 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: number two, guys get over. 318 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: It it's. 319 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: Ridiculous, Well crosby's, dead so there's no getting over it. 320 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: Now if it never got over, all, right let's. Go 321 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: what else we got? Here seven to two four Says, Hey, 322 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: jake It's. Anthony you asked In disgraceland about music, feuds especially. 323 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: COUNTRY i Know Toby keith and The chicks got deep into, 324 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: it Including keith showing picks of The chicks With sodom 325 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: sodom whu'ssein it got. Heated well that's, interesting, man that's fucking. 326 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: INTERESTING i didn't know anything about. That i'm gonna look that. 327 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 7: Up. 328 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: Uh i'm down for some early odds country. Beef what 329 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: else we got? Here from the four to two four 330 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: went to the O C fair last weekend and they 331 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: have an exhibit Called art Of, Music and for some 332 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: REASON i went in and remember Disgrace, land and here 333 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: are some picks and then there's a bunch of, picks 334 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: just general, Picks prince The. BEATLES i like. That you're 335 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: just you're seeing music stuff and you're thinking of. Me thank, 336 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: you all? Right got this one from the three to 337 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: oh Two, Jake tina from the three oh two Here Happy. Friday, 338 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: no you're probably, top probably on top of this being 339 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: a masshole like so many of these, fellas BUT i 340 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: had to send it your way. Anyway such a banger 341 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: really stoke for the full album in a couple, months 342 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: and hopefully none of them will make it onto your 343 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: podcast due to the, misadventures but maybe merely for being 344 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: so fucking. Rad any who have a spectacular Weekend heart 345 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: x T. X that is From tina in the three o, 346 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: two and once she's referring to she sends a link 347 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: here To, spotify and it is to the new single 348 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: by The defiant single Called Dead. Language defiant punk band 349 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: with all these punk, vets including the Infamous Dicky. BARRETT 350 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: i say, infamous but he's not. Infamous he's a great fucking, 351 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: guy former singer of The Mighty mighty Boss, Tones And tina's, 352 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: right this song is fucking great AND i look forward 353 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: to the full album from The defiant what else we 354 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: got from the seven o. Five i'm gonna wrap it 355 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: here on This beef's conversation because it's pretty damn good and, 356 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: Uh i'm gonna move on, though this one coming from 357 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: the seven o, five saying three of the biggest Beefs Dean, 358 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: Martin Jerry Lee, Lewis don And Phil, Everly Don felder 359 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: And Glenn. Fry h, yeah we didn't really get into 360 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: The Don Felder Glenn fry beef and The eagles kind 361 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: of touched on. IT i THINK i don't really Remember 362 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: don And Phil everly. Though that's huge and that couldn't 363 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: necessitate An Everly brothers, episode Which i'd never really thought 364 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: of before until, Now so thank you seven oh. Five and, 365 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: then of, Course Dean martin And Jerry. Lewis you know 366 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a rap pack episode at some. Point 367 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: but the MORE i think about, this the More i'm 368 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: becoming hip to the fact that there's probably many rap 369 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: pack episodes that we could get into. Here so thanks 370 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,239 Speaker 1: for the seven o. Five appreciate. It, guys you want 371 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: to send me some voicemails six, one seven nine oh 372 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: six six you want to send me some texts same 373 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: thing six one seven nine oh six sixty six three. 374 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: Eight you want TO dm me about any of these 375 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: topics we're, discussing you can do that at disgrace. Lampot 376 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: let's get into that right. Now some, dms all? Right 377 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: From leo X fury On. Instagram leo Rights, man your 378 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: episode On Ariana grande is mind. Blowing AND i was 379 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: listening to the after party right after that one about 380 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: the top hip hop, groups and you said something really. 381 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: Important you need A BIG l. Episode it's my fav 382 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: rapper of all, time all, Right, leo get into That 383 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: BIG l at some. Point it's on the, list, man 384 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: and it's been on the list from the, beginning AND 385 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: i keep finding reasons not to do. It it's one 386 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: of those things THAT i really want to get into, 387 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: it And i'm kind of afraid of the amount of 388 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: time That i'm going to have to. Spend but we 389 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: will get into it at some, POINT i. Promise Ian 390 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: standish sends us a story of himself drinking a rock and. 391 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: Rolla Thanks Ian, stanish appreciate. That that's also On. Instagram 392 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: Zach ahern writes in On, Instagram hey could even get 393 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: through a minute Of. FIDLAR i think he meant the 394 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: right couldn't even get through a minute Of. Fidlar, well 395 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 1: that's just like your, opinion, man and you're missing. Out 396 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: it's a great fucking. BAND i stand by. It Austin 397 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: James music writes in something about how awesome Notorious big 398 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: IS a little story, THERE i missed, It so for a, 399 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: second let's keep moving here with a couple more. Dms 400 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: let's go over To. Facebook Sue hendrickson writes in On, 401 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: Facebook Hey, Jake sue from six to one to, two 402 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: did you recommend Reinventing elvis? Recently i'm fifty three years. 403 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: Old thanks to my, mom who is a full On elvis, 404 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: Fanatic i've been listening To elvis since BEFORE i was. 405 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: Born the Day elvis died is seven to my. SOUL 406 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: i was. Seven my mom AND i were. Inconsolable she's 407 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: been gone for fifteen years. Now watching the show brings 408 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: her spirit, close his, talent, grace sense of, humor and 409 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: that UNMISTAKABLE it. Factor it's. Breathtaking love your, Show love 410 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: the ongoing conversations you have with your. Listeners thanks for 411 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: hours of great entertainment you got, It. SUE i did 412 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: not recommend Reinventing, elvis But i'm gonna watch it and 413 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: sorry about the loss of your. Mom you definitely sound 414 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: like you're missing her and that you keep her close 415 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: in your, heart And elvis is a good way to do, 416 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: that So i'm gonna check that. Out thank. You Aaron 417 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: nicole writes In i'm in, landscaping so While i'm weeding 418 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: beds and, PRUNING i have you as my work buddy all. 419 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: Day we live in the roller coaster capital of the, World, Sandusky. 420 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: Ohio let me know what you think of f is for. 421 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: FAMILY i will erin WHEN i get into. It thanks 422 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: for introducing. Yourself appreciate. You appreciate all you. Guys you 423 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: want to get in, touch it's at disgrace lam. Pod all. 424 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: Right you can do that On. Facebook you can do 425 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: that On. Instagram you can do that On. Twitter you 426 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: can do that on TikTok if that's your. Thing it's 427 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: actually Not twitter. Anymore excuse, me IT'S x all. Right 428 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: i'm easy to get in touch, with, okay AND i respond, 429 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: WELL i try to respond. Anyways doug In groon, Writes, Hey, 430 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: disgraceland this is ON. X Hey Disgrace. Landpod this reminds 431 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: me of the intro to the recommendations portion of the after, 432 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: party and it's this amazing picture Of Thin, lizzy a 433 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,959 Speaker 1: BAND i love and have forever loved and will forever. 434 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: Loved AND i don't understand where people get off THINKING 435 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: i don't Like Thin lizzy or where that came. From At, 436 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: Dean i'm, Sorry Dean arnold writes in ON x At disgrace, Lampot, 437 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: oh this is a good. One on, Beefs ira And 438 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: Charlie luvin hated each Other country Beef, Yeah luvin brothers Hot. 439 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: DAMN i get to write that. Episode that'll be fun 440 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: all right. Again At disgrace lamp pod ON, x On, 441 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: facebook On, instagram get in. Touch we're talking. Everything we're talking, 442 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: beefs country, beefs music, beefs, whatever. Beefs we're talking about 443 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: best non music biopic music. Movies we're talking about who 444 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: Killed Biggie small's who might have Killed? Tupac let me 445 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: know six one seven nine oh six six six three 446 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: Eight At disgrace, Lampod i'm gonna take a quick break 447 00:23:53,080 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: back with some recommendations in just a. Bit the recommendations 448 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: Part this is the recommendation's, part the part we recommend 449 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: the things that need, recommending the recommendation's. Part all, right all, 450 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: right all. Right i'm writing this thing that hopefully you 451 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: guys will hear about. SOON i can't talk about, it but, 452 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: someday HOPEFULLY i. Can it's a story that's set in 453 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: the early. Offts it's set in two thousand and, one 454 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: to be. Specific so As i'm writing this, Thing i've 455 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: been mining rock music from two thousand and nineteen ninety 456 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: nine for, inspiration not from two thousand and, one because, 457 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: again the story takes place in early two thousand and. 458 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: One and also the thing That i've noticed is two 459 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: thousand and, one this thing happens in music that changes 460 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: the course that we're. On two thousand and one is 461 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: when we start to get you, know we get the, 462 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: strokes white, stripes start to break, through and then the 463 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: sort of floodgates, open the high, ives the, vines all 464 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: of the, bands for lack of a better, term and 465 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: mainstream rock music takes a turn for the, better for 466 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: sure in my, Opinion But i'm focused on for the 467 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: worst here in two thousand And what was going on 468 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: in two thousand and nineteen ninety, nine and As i'm 469 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,239 Speaker 1: writing this, thing And i'm immersed in this world And 470 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: i'm listening to what was on the charts at the 471 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: time for rock, MUSIC i find myself having a brand 472 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: new appreciation for WHAT i can only describe as ridiculous 473 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: new metal. MUSIC i fucking. HATED i didn't care about. 474 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: IT i THOUGHT i not only hated, IT i like. 475 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: Actively it just repelled. Me i'm talking about these songs 476 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: in particular are the Ones i've been listening, to and 477 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: these are the bands That i'm talking about, Here, Okay 478 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: Last resort By Papa, Roach American badass By Kid, Rock 479 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: drive By, Incubus down with The sickness By, Disturbed Sleep 480 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,719 Speaker 1: now in The fire By Ridge against The. MACHINE i 481 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: was pretty much out On rage after their first, Album 482 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: so by two thousand and ONE i wasn't paying, attention 483 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: or two THOUSAND i wasn't paying, ATTENTION i should. Say 484 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: and as For Papa, Roach Kid rock And incubus And, 485 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: DISTURBED i was thoroughly. Disinterested but, again hearing these songs 486 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: now almost as artifacts from another. Time with this new, 487 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: OBJECTIVITY i hear them as kind of a new classic 488 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: rock AND i cannot Believe i'm saying, this But i'm 489 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: open to, it LIKE i again again, Again this music repelled, 490 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: me and Now i'm, like you, Know i'm turning Up 491 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: Last resort By, roach, which by the, way the lyrics 492 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: are so fucking. DARK i can't believe that was like 493 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: a radio. Hit BUT i don't. KNOW i, MEAN i 494 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: Realize i'm flushing all my quote unquote cool guy crad 495 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: down the toilet. Here but what CAN i? Say this is. 496 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: True there's something that happens with time where you can 497 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: bring objectivity to a piece of, music and you can 498 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: hear it in the context of nostalgia or something that 499 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: makes you feel Like it's not that it gives you, 500 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: permission BECAUSE i don't give a shit about. THAT i 501 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: don't care what people think about WHAT i listened to 502 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: or what they think about me BECAUSE i listened to 503 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: something or. Another, Clearly i'm telling you right now THAT 504 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: i can appreciate it disturbed For god's. Sakes but there's 505 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: something about just having distance from. It And i've experienced 506 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: this with other types of music, too that make it 507 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: listenable to, me make me not, listenable make me almost 508 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: want to just want to like. It it's. Weird it's fucking. 509 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: Weird and all of. This of, course listening to this 510 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: bad new metal from nineteen ninety nine and two thousand 511 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: has forced me into listening to newer heavy, music hardcore, 512 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: music new, metal not new and you, metal but new 513 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: as in modern. Metal mostly When i'm working, Out So 514 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: i'm listening To Incendi, Area i'm listening to Mad Ball. 515 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: Leeway that's, OLD i get, it but Still i'm back 516 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: listening to a power trip kind of new but not really. 517 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: Turnstyle SO i just got to ask what heavy music 518 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: are you guys listening to Because i'm in that mindset right. 519 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: Now and, yeah if you want to convince me that 520 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: these new metal bands are actually better THAN i thought 521 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: they were AND i just missed something and Now i'm 522 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: finally catching up to, it convinced me WHY i shouldn't 523 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: Hate Papa roach Or disturbed is What i'm. Saying, Uh and, 524 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: again hit me up with some any modern hardcore or 525 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: modern metal you guys are digging on six one seven 526 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three. Eight i'm in a 527 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: heavy music phase currently And i'm digging, it so hit 528 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: me up with those. Recommendations also listening To Death valley 529 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: girls band From La going to see them in a 530 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: couple of weeks At. Bumblefest, uh anyone else going To? 531 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: Bumblefest Maybe i'll see. There caught up on for music 532 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: related video. Content caught up on a couple of music 533 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: docs since we last. Spoke showtime keeps playing The Ricky 534 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: Powell The individualist documentary from twenty. Twenty And i've seen this. 535 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: BEFORE i saw it when it came. Out of, Course 536 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: i'm interested In Ricky powell just because of his affiliation 537 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: with The Beastie, boys but also just being part of 538 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: that whole like Downtown New york thing in the eighties and. 539 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: Nineties that's my, lane, man as it is for a 540 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: lot of you guys. TOO i KNOW i see any 541 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: of that. Content i'm just, like suck right. In and 542 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: this documentary is really. Great And Ricky powell was a great. 543 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: Artist he was a, photographer he was more than. That 544 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: he was a. Personality he had his own. THING i 545 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: know a lot of you know who he. Is i'm 546 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: obviously speaking right now to those who. Don't but if 547 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: you're all interested in Downtown New, york if you're all 548 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: interested in early hip, hop early def jam or The Beastie, 549 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: boys of, course anything like. That check Out Ricky Powell The. 550 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: Individualist this documentary is not, new it's from twenty, twenty 551 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: but it is. Worse LIKE i, SAID i saw it, 552 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: then and it's on and every TIME i catch it, 553 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: ON i just rewatch. It it's just it's really fucking. Great, 554 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: also there's a NEW i think this is On showtime as. 555 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 4: Well. 556 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: Showtime showtime does a lot of music, content which is. 557 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: AWESOME i appreciate, that thanks Mister Mimus. Showtime but they've 558 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: got this new Biz marquee documentary Called All up in The, 559 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: biz which is pretty damn. GOOD i haven't seen all of. 560 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: IT i like The Ricky powell. Thing it pops up 561 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: And i'm just like sucked into. It i'll watch it 562 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: all before the next time we, speak just BECAUSE i 563 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: really started to get into it last, night and and 564 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: it dawned on. Me you, know there's this you, KNOW 565 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: i don't know if the programming here From showtime with 566 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: Biz marque and The Rocky powell thing is because we're 567 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: we're circling we're still circling this fifty years Of Hip 568 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: hop anniversary thing or. Not but it dawned on me 569 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: and watching these, docs especially the Biz marque, one THAT 570 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: i just think it's so great that we. Are these 571 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: docs come out and a lot of them tell the 572 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: same stories or they tell different versions of anecdotes from 573 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: hip hop, history WHICH i think is very important because 574 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: we've been beaten over the heads OR i, have at 575 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: least in people my, age with the sort of punk 576 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,239 Speaker 1: rock and classic rock music history, lore and we know 577 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: all these stories about The ramones getting, together all the 578 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: stories about The stones and Led zeppelin or The Sex 579 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: pistols Or nirvana or. Whatever this stuff is like it's 580 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: well worn. Road it's been gone over in so many different. 581 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: Ways And i'm guilty of going over this stuff more 582 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: than once as. Well hip hop because it's a newer, 583 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: medium it's a newer form of, music and his history is, 584 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: newer has not had this, happen and they are all 585 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: these sort OF i hate this, phrase but these untold, 586 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: stories just a story About Marley morrow and The Juice, 587 00:31:54,080 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: crew and how these Guys Big Daddy, Kane, Bismarquis eric 588 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: b and Rock, keem how these guys all kind of 589 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: were in the same, orbit how they're jockeying to get 590 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: on these tracks and how this history took. SHAPE i, 591 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: mean this stuff is very. Compelling these stories are super, 592 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: interesting and they're part of hip hop, lore and they 593 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: deserve to be as prevalent in sort of the historical 594 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: rear view as are stories about punk rock and classic rock. Are, maybe, 595 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: though the problem isn't one of disseminating this. Information maybe 596 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: the problem is my lens and HOW i look through 597 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: it and sort of where it takes, me where it 598 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: has taken. Me but all this is to say that 599 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: all this hip hop content that's being released right, NOW 600 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: i think it's. GREAT i love. It i'm here for, 601 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: it And i'm happy to add our own content From 602 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: disgraceland onto this pile as. Well you guys are going 603 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: to hear more about that next, week And i'm very 604 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,239 Speaker 1: excited for. It what are you guys? Watching what are 605 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: you listening? To you're reading anything? Good let me know 606 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: six one seven nine oh six six six three eight 607 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: with your. Recommendations i'm gonna take a quick. Break i'm drinking, 608 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: coffee not tea this, morning Because i'm up early doing. 609 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: This i'm gonna rink a little more. Coffee i'll be 610 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: back after. This all, right let's. Recap shall We number, 611 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: One part two of The Notorious big re releases the 612 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: latest episode of Our disgraceland series that's in your feeds right. 613 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: Now number. Two over in the Bad Lands, feed we've 614 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: got a brand new episode On Joan. Crawford number. Three 615 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: next week in The Disgraceland, feed we're dropping the trailer 616 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: for season, thirteen which not only ties into the fifteenth 617 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: anniversary of Hip hop but is our first serialized season 618 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: Of disgraceland. Ever ten episodes on one, artist and it's 619 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: a massive. Artist. Huge, okay you're gonna want to check this. 620 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: Out you're not gonna want to miss. This number. Four 621 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: my number is six one one seven nine oh six 622 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: six six three. Eight call me on the telephone or text. 623 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: Me all, right my moment of bliss me reading you 624 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: the phone book From Los angeles circa nineteen seventy five 625 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: with a familiar name that's relevant to this week's. 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