WEBVTT - Jujubee Will EGOT

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<v Speaker 1>Boom, boom, all aboard the uh RuPaul bound FAG train.

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<v Speaker 2>A g.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, please of the closing legs this train.

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<v Speaker 2>This is an l g b t Q a I

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<v Speaker 2>plus train. Rose. I feel like I've asked you this before.

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<v Speaker 2>But what does the Q in LGBTQ stand for? And

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<v Speaker 2>there is a correct answer, quixotic. Yeah, that's the correct answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for saying that. Everyone is always like, is

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<v Speaker 2>it questioning or is it queer? And I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>questioning should be in here?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, questioning? I thought it was queer.

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<v Speaker 2>No, people think think gets questioning. It is for sure queer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it shouldn't be. It shouldn't be questioning.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And then people all, I don't news are valid

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<v Speaker 3>except if your questioning, and except if you're questioning, in

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<v Speaker 3>which case we say, figure it the fuck out.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I I know we have a lot to talk about,

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<v Speaker 3>and I hate to derail us this early episode, especially

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about something that I'm going to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>talk around in an unspecified way. But I read this

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<v Speaker 3>fanfic recently that made me so mad. It was a

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<v Speaker 3>fanfic in which these two characters who let's just say

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<v Speaker 3>they're in a time period that is not current, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's slightly more homophobic. They're having like a secret gay

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<v Speaker 3>relationship and one of them is like not out of

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<v Speaker 3>the closet, and uh like keeps the other one as

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<v Speaker 3>a secret. And then at the end of the fanfic,

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<v Speaker 3>their friends are mad. Not the one who was like

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<v Speaker 3>using his like keeping his lover hidden, but the other

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<v Speaker 3>guy for like wanting to push him to come out.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, why, I think gen Z is bones.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're done.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait was itten? Do you know if it was written

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<v Speaker 2>by somebody in gen Z I have I have a feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a feeling. I got a feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, and that's the worst thing you could make

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<v Speaker 3>a young person do, is like, uh, like make a

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<v Speaker 3>decision about themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's violence for some.

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<v Speaker 3>Reason, but like, uh, lying and manipulating someone is okay

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<v Speaker 3>as long as it's in the service of protecting your identity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like what and that because I think the happiest

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<v Speaker 2>season is going on in here truly anyway, Sorry, that

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<v Speaker 2>was pet peeve of mine. That makes no sense and

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<v Speaker 2>I hate that. Yeah, we do have a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about to talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to get this train running absolutely babes complaining works.

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<v Speaker 3>All we had to do was yell on the internet

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<v Speaker 3>and we got invited to the Stop That Train premiere

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<v Speaker 3>in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>The Stop That Train New York premiere, Yes, was part.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the opening film at the NewFest Film Festival,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a queer film festival that takes place in

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<v Speaker 3>New York.

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<v Speaker 2>The largest LGBTQ film festival, I think, if not in

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<v Speaker 2>the country, in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Incredible, and we were graciously invited by NewFest to come

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<v Speaker 3>see the screening.

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<v Speaker 2>My newest social media manager shout out do you bat.

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<v Speaker 2>There was also a virgin who checked us in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, whoever you are, we love you.

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<v Speaker 3>We love even have to get our actual tickets because

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<v Speaker 3>you just kind of waved us in.

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<v Speaker 1>Love.

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<v Speaker 2>Love when that happens, Love when that happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of had a similar situation to that last night,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'll tell you about it later in the episode. Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Stop that Train was the dumbest movie I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Compliment entry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, oh absolutely, I think it delivered exactly what it's

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<v Speaker 2>what it promised. It is on the level of stupid. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it is Airplane. It is the movie Airplane. It's very

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<v Speaker 2>much you know, as we said last episode sending up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know these screwball parody comedies of the seventies, and

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<v Speaker 2>it really is if a drag race acting challenge was

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<v Speaker 2>ninety minutes long.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and much like a drag race acting challenge, about

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<v Speaker 2>forty percent, about fifty percent of the jokes were like

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<v Speaker 2>so stupid and no one laughed. And then the other

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<v Speaker 2>fifty percent of the jokes were the funniest thing I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever heard ever ever, like just like such dies, such

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<v Speaker 2>niche gay jokes, and like, yes, it is, like again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a drag race acting challenge. It's a storm Agonza.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a storm got that one?

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<v Speaker 2>The storm Agonza really got you when you find out

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<v Speaker 2>that the storm that the train is going into is called,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, a storm Agonza. And they open up like

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<v Speaker 2>an old book is I guess we should explain the

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote plot film.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Training so Jujubi and Gingermine, who are the stars were

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<v Speaker 2>the stars on the films?

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<v Speaker 1>Who we were? Who we were sitting directly behind, directly behind?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>They are d d and tests tests.

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<v Speaker 3>They are two Dumby trained stewardesses who work on stank railway,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're very jealous of the you know, more glamorous

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<v Speaker 3>uh Glamizonian Express uh train attendance and are able to

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<v Speaker 3>kind of hoodwink themselves onto a Glamazonian train. But that

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<v Speaker 3>just happens to coincide with a storm Agonza setting down somehow.

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<v Speaker 1>In the middle of the country.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how hurricanes are supposed to make landfall

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<v Speaker 3>that far in, but whatever, and they so the train

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<v Speaker 3>has to be stopped before it crashes into the Storm

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<v Speaker 3>of Ganza.

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<v Speaker 2>Into the Storm Agonza, And there are many kind of

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<v Speaker 2>twists and turns that this that the train takes like

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<v Speaker 2>into like a haunted tunnel, and other things that it

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<v Speaker 2>won't spoil for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, things fly across the screen. RuPaul plays the President.

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<v Speaker 3>RuPaul made a surprise appearance at the screening. There had

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<v Speaker 3>been a bunch of speeches, the movie was about to start,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we hear RuPaul on a mic off stage.

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<v Speaker 3>He comes out and spends five minutes I would I

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<v Speaker 3>would say, not really knowing where he.

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<v Speaker 2>Was, nor to mind, trying to find his friend PJ. Well. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the first one of the first things he said, I

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<v Speaker 2>believe is like it's so great to be here in

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>Angeles.

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<v Speaker 3>He definitely did not know what city he was in

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<v Speaker 3>and looking he was looking for his friend PJ over

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<v Speaker 3>the mic. And let me be clear, at first, when

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<v Speaker 3>he started doing this, I was like, Oh, maybe he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to say, like, PJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Is you know, was my assistant.

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<v Speaker 2>Or like JA played up an important part of.

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<v Speaker 1>The role, was one of the writers or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a surprise to announce you.

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<v Speaker 3>No, PJ is just RuPaul's friend who was in the

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<v Speaker 3>audience who RuPaul wanted to say hi to, and.

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<v Speaker 2>As and as we're said to us, they used to

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<v Speaker 2>be close and they're not that close now.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, of course the only way they could

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<v Speaker 3>connect is for RuPaul to use I would say fifty

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<v Speaker 3>percent of his time before the screening of his feature

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<v Speaker 3>film to say hi to PJ. Also talk about sort

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<v Speaker 3>of how in demand he is in Hollywood. Just kept

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<v Speaker 3>being like, oh, well, I'm always being flown around the

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<v Speaker 3>world to set and then he like cackled.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And he also kept kind of being like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so did I do it? Did I fulfill my requirement?

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like a traffic cruel obligation. Can someone guess

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<v Speaker 1>off forehead?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it was so funny. I loved seeing

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<v Speaker 2>her in person.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been in the same room as Ruaul before.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really very exciting. Well, you know, famously that

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<v Speaker 2>I've given a present I've I've you know, presented like

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<v Speaker 2>two slides of a presentation to rue Paul before, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>at Netflix, and he did laugh at a joke that

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<v Speaker 2>I made the loudest that he laughed the entire meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, okay, So that's the plot of the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a plethora of cameos. I think the best

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<v Speaker 2>I would say the best player in the ensemble, hands down,

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<v Speaker 2>Laterrece Royale.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, but I wouldn't call that a cam media right.

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<v Speaker 3>She played mart because she's she's part of the drag

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<v Speaker 3>Race universe and she writes okay character in the film.

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<v Speaker 3>I really liked the running gag with Sarah Michelle Geller

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<v Speaker 3>that she always thinks people are about to like talk

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<v Speaker 3>about some you know thing they love her from, and

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<v Speaker 3>actually no one knows who she is and fucking hates her.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a cute little recurring bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there were a bunch there were I mean, it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you can think of someone who has guest judged

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<v Speaker 3>on drag Race, they were probably in this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can think of somebody that is in the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like contacts in the contacts app of the

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<v Speaker 2>phone of Fenton Bailey or Randy Barbados.

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<v Speaker 1>Who were also the screening fathers.

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<v Speaker 2>They are literally Aristotle and Plato like creat writing the

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<v Speaker 2>scrolls are like their God and Adam in that painting

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<v Speaker 2>the creation of man touching fingers. If we're not counting

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<v Speaker 2>drag Race Stiva's, then I would say my favorite cameo

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<v Speaker 2>was actually Missy Pile. I thought she was lovely.

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<v Speaker 3>Missy Pile is such an amazing comedic character actor who

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<v Speaker 3>has appeared in so many movies and TV shows. My

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<v Speaker 3>favorite of her roles are either interesting in The Puzzycats.

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<v Speaker 2>Or in MA I don't want to be a bitch, but.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a safe space. This is an unsafe space.

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<v Speaker 1>I can be a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know who Rachel Bloom was, so I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>She drove so much of the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>She was she had a big role.

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<v Speaker 2>She thought she could have it could have been, we

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<v Speaker 2>could have rearranged it.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like the the the dumpy woman who works at

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<v Speaker 3>the center of like transportation who's trying to help them train.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's train's headquarters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And Rachel Bloom is someone.

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<v Speaker 2>Who I I know who she is.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm I've definitely like seen her in a guest

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<v Speaker 3>role in something before. But the thing that she's the

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<v Speaker 3>most famous for, which is this show My Crazy Ex Girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 3>which was a musical on the CW I believe, and

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<v Speaker 3>she's I've heard, yeah, And she's really talented. She has

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<v Speaker 3>a great voice. She like wrote the show. I think

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<v Speaker 3>she wrote all the music too. Yeah, I like I

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<v Speaker 3>thought she was.

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<v Speaker 1>Good in the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>I do kind of agree like it. It maybe was

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<v Speaker 3>an opportunity for like a gag year actor. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>she's kind of like of I would say, of the

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<v Speaker 3>the pool of you know, like drag Racegution celebrities. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>she's like she's like solid and like she she was

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<v Speaker 3>there to act, like she was there to perform. She

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<v Speaker 3>she didn't like she wasn't like pulling focus like Charro.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, she was able. She's like she's like enough

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<v Speaker 3>of a working actress that she was able to disappear

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<v Speaker 3>into the role.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will also say I thought Juju Bei was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Jujubi carried the film. Jujubi is charamedic genius.

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<v Speaker 2>She like her and Ginger were a great two hander.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Juju was essentially the the if you were

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<v Speaker 2>she saw the movie. Yeah, and her the stakes of

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<v Speaker 2>her in relation to all the different elements of the film,

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<v Speaker 2>like that, to me was the biggest center and that

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<v Speaker 2>she also gets to be the the kookie one while

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<v Speaker 2>Ginger is kind of playing the straight man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well you know, not straight. And also Ginger.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw I saw tweet that was like a photo

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<v Speaker 2>of her from the premiere and it was like she

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<v Speaker 2>got skinny and lost her realness. I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it is not not necessarily untrue. She was

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<v Speaker 2>good in the film.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what she was in the film.

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<v Speaker 2>I really liked Brooklyn Heights and Marsh Marsh Marsha and

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<v Speaker 2>Simone as the as like the mean girl trained stewardesses.

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<v Speaker 2>They were very funny. I would say that there's a joke.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't spoil it, but there is a joke featuring

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<v Speaker 2>a raggedy an doll. Oh. I actually think that joke

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<v Speaker 2>is in the trailer. So people have probably already oh

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<v Speaker 2>it is, Oh my god, they spoiled that in Comedic Genius.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, one thing not necessarily about like our enjoyment of

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<v Speaker 3>the films, there has been this controversy bubbling up. A

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people are saying that it looks like a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of generative AI was used in the film, and

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<v Speaker 3>in fact, sure it was. The director Adam Shankman made

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<v Speaker 3>a statement and he said, every shot and stopped that

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<v Speaker 3>train is made by human hands. Has come to my

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<v Speaker 3>attention that there's some online speculation that Stopped that Train

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<v Speaker 3>is full of fully generative AI shots, and I'm here

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<v Speaker 3>to tell you this is patently not true. There are

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<v Speaker 3>some total of zero shots conceived by AI.

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<v Speaker 1>In thish way.

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<v Speaker 3>We employed hundreds of VFX artists. Untbelieve that who all

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<v Speaker 3>killed them hundreds getting this out. They maybe had two

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<v Speaker 3>killed themselves getting this out for release, and not one

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<v Speaker 3>job was taken out of human hands. This movie is

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<v Speaker 3>a fully human made piece of joy and laughter. So

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<v Speaker 3>I do think there is something to be said of like,

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<v Speaker 3>I think we are kind of losing the further we

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<v Speaker 3>go into the AI era. I think we are losing

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<v Speaker 3>the ability to determine what is real and what is

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<v Speaker 3>not and.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have been able to discern. I would have

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<v Speaker 2>fully thought that was AI.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think there is there is a difference between

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<v Speaker 3>AI and just bad cheap CGI, and like I could

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<v Speaker 3>very much clock that what was in the film was

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<v Speaker 3>bad CGI to the level of what is done in

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<v Speaker 3>drag race acting challenges.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and in AI.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>People do think that the language and this is very

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<v Speaker 3>carefully worded. Oh you know that they're zero shots conceived

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<v Speaker 3>by AI. So it's like, so does that mean like

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<v Speaker 3>they prompted something really specifically and they're being very very

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<v Speaker 3>careful about the language.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I personally like, I mean, here's the thing, if they

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<v Speaker 3>did use AI, we're certainly never going to find out

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<v Speaker 3>about it now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean I feel well, that's the thing

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<v Speaker 2>is I think it would be I am I'm curious,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it seems like something that would actually be difficult

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<v Speaker 2>to lie about, is my thought.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also think it's just but I do this

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<v Speaker 3>is a product of our of like our culture calling

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<v Speaker 3>everything slop culture. You know, it's like people anything they

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<v Speaker 3>don't like now, it's very easy I think in the

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<v Speaker 3>way that five six, ten years ago, it was easy

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<v Speaker 3>to say I don't like this because it's problematic, and

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<v Speaker 3>that was like an argument ender, a conversation finisher. Now

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<v Speaker 3>people just say, oh, it's a slop, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's actually a really limited way to engage with them

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<v Speaker 3>and think critically about art.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, I agree, and I think this is what

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying. But I think that it brings up this

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<v Speaker 2>I think really a question for the culture. As it were,

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<v Speaker 2>we were just celebrating the six year anniversary of a

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<v Speaker 2>question for the Culturela del But it is like, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>like just saying something looks like AI slop is like

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<v Speaker 2>not good media literacy. Like I I'm I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>actually out on a limit say that Adam Shankman has

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<v Speaker 2>no reason to lie, and also that he is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>someone who I do. I do believe in a generation

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<v Speaker 2>of artists and directors that are actually going to stand

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<v Speaker 2>on the right side of history. And if he's making

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<v Speaker 2>this statement, my hope is that is what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I yeah, I think for public discernment, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like it's the same thing as like fact checking, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you can't just look at a TikTok and and and

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<v Speaker 2>and distill that in all the information in that TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be factual. It's just not how we

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<v Speaker 2>should be critiquing art, so to just for the media

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<v Speaker 2>story to actually really get away from it. And everyone

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<v Speaker 2>has concluded actually that the film was made by AI.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's kind. I mean, no, girl, shitty graphics

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<v Speaker 2>are shitty graphics, okay, And also something to be said.

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<v Speaker 2>They also really honey the opening credits of this film. Ever,

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<v Speaker 2>they cleaned out the stock footage library for trains. They

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<v Speaker 2>searched trains into like Adobe video stock, and they got everything.

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<v Speaker 2>They took it all, baby. But yeah, I mean, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's the movie was done on a relative budget, right

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<v Speaker 2>like people. I think, didn't you say that?

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<v Speaker 1>People were?

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know, looks like it costs two dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to me.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's how we like it. That's how we like drag.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why drag is good, because the cheapness of drag

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<v Speaker 2>as an art form is in conversation with the art

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<v Speaker 2>form itself and in being aware of itself, is part

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<v Speaker 2>of the shtick and why it's so funny. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's you know, I think you find camp

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<v Speaker 2>in the dissonance between this movie looking like it was

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<v Speaker 2>filmed in my bathroom, right, and the fact that everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>treating it everyone in the film or is treating it

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<v Speaker 2>as if they are in you know, a Christopher Nolan movie, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, I mean yeah, then that's just not with

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<v Speaker 2>this That's not the standard that this film is supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be at. And I'm glad that they didn't use AI.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the statement, thank God, what do we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about next? Roads? Do we do? Do we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>what you did last night?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think I think we should.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's next priority. Babes, you kind of died

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<v Speaker 2>and went to heaven.

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<v Speaker 3>If I'm not well, I died if went to Hell

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<v Speaker 3>and I had a fabulous time.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know he was going to be performing Rose.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So last night I went to the season three premiere

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<v Speaker 3>of The Vampire Lesstat formerly known as an Interview with

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<v Speaker 3>the Vampire. It was the premiere and a live show

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<v Speaker 3>with Sam Reid performing live as as the Stat in

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<v Speaker 3>character like in character, like he was doing like patter

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<v Speaker 3>between the songs in character as the Stat with the

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<v Speaker 3>French accent. Everything he had, like his like makeup, scar On.

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<v Speaker 3>And so for those who haven't been listening and don't

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<v Speaker 3>know the third season of the show, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>fuck my weed delivery is here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go get it. I can. I can tell the versions.

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<v Speaker 2>Okayam the third season of the show, which is called

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<v Speaker 2>The Vampire Lestat because that is the title of this

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<v Speaker 2>next kind of chunk of Anne Rice's books following Interview

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<v Speaker 2>with Vampire iterates the story of Listat as he kind

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<v Speaker 2>of moves through time because he's obviously centuries years old

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<v Speaker 2>to now be a rock star. And the rock star's name, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>is maybe just the Vampire list A.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, his band is called the vampireless At, right, And.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know. And he performed at this premiere.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, did he do one song?

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<v Speaker 2>Two songs?

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<v Speaker 3>No, he did four or five songs. He performed for

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<v Speaker 3>about twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's shock.

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<v Speaker 3>He performed with a full band, including Daniel Hart, who

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<v Speaker 3>is the composer for Interview with the Vampire. They wrote

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<v Speaker 3>I think like upwards of twenty or thirty songs for

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<v Speaker 3>season three and performed a bunch of them last night.

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<v Speaker 1>The songs kind of you know, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Are are the framework of the season. From what I

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<v Speaker 3>can see a hold on, Vampagana have to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Get this.

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<v Speaker 2>The I was uh, I was going to ask, actually

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<v Speaker 2>if the I think that the rock Star is supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be a kind of like Prince slash Bowie hybrid,

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<v Speaker 2>and this like rock Star kind of persona I think

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<v Speaker 2>lends itself so beautifully to the first element, right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>the rock Star is very thirsty. He's a very thirsty

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<v Speaker 2>This is me Vambi girl. My question for you, this

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<v Speaker 2>is very important. Yes, who came first? You, Ty Mitchell

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<v Speaker 2>or Ira Madison?

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<v Speaker 1>It was definitely me. Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So the premiere was held at the Beacon Theater, which

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<v Speaker 2>was a really beautiful venue venue for this specifically.

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<v Speaker 1>It it has like a.

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<v Speaker 2>Very old world feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>They screened the first episode of the new season, which

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<v Speaker 3>was very exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna spoil it, but I'll say like.

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<v Speaker 2>It was good.

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<v Speaker 1>It was incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a very different show this season, and that is

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<v Speaker 3>something they have played up a lot in the marketing

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<v Speaker 3>and all the press around it. I mean it very

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<v Speaker 3>much like it justifies the fact that they have actually

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<v Speaker 3>changed the title of the show to The Vampire lesstat Like,

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<v Speaker 3>just the way the show looks the way it's shot

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<v Speaker 3>and edited, the way it sounds, it feels like a

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<v Speaker 3>different show, but it's really still grounded by these you know,

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<v Speaker 3>incredible performances from Sam Reid as the stat I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>like he really is the star of the show. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>he's in almost every second of the first episode.

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<v Speaker 1>But the.

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<v Speaker 2>But the series still is following this century's long romance.

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<v Speaker 3>Or yeah, I mean yeah, I mean, well, the thing is,

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<v Speaker 3>like the Vampire Chronicles and Rice's books that the show

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<v Speaker 3>is based on, Lista and Louie they are endgame. They

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<v Speaker 3>are like to her, you know, they they were soulmates.

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<v Speaker 3>They were always going to end up together, but you

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<v Speaker 3>know they're they're vampires and they are immortal, and so

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<v Speaker 3>they're constantly breaking up and making up. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the season picks up where the last season left off,

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<v Speaker 3>and that Lestat and Louie have reconciled.

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<v Speaker 2>Louis knows that Armand.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the one who actually plotted to kill Claudia, and

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<v Speaker 3>the in world novel Interview with a Vampire, well not novel,

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<v Speaker 3>nonfiction book has finally come out, and so and as

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<v Speaker 3>the season starts, Listat and Louie are connected again, and

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<v Speaker 3>then Lestat reads interview with a vampire. It sends him

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<v Speaker 3>on this crazy spiral and he starts a band, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's there's so much blood and sex and drugs. Lestat

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<v Speaker 3>pisses blood? What and does Molly In the first episode,

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<v Speaker 3>there's incest.

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<v Speaker 2>What in the first episode.

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<v Speaker 3>In the first episode, it's very the vibe is very

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<v Speaker 3>glam rock.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very Bowie.

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel Hart, who composed all the music used to open

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<v Speaker 3>for Bowie, like back in the seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, love.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Reid.

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<v Speaker 3>Sam Reid was so incredible. I mean, like I knew

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<v Speaker 3>he could sing, because he has sung in every season

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<v Speaker 3>of the show so far. I'm sure they, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>audition to people who could sing, knowing that canonically Lestat

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<v Speaker 3>would eventually have to become a rock star. I was

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<v Speaker 3>unprepared for how incredible he was live, not only his

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<v Speaker 3>commitment to playing Lestat, and like the fact that it

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<v Speaker 3>felt like he's sang in character. He's sang in character.

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<v Speaker 3>I truly think Anne Rice rose from her grave last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. It was magnetic and so sexy. He's so hot

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<v Speaker 2>and tall. Were you able to seduce him at the

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<v Speaker 2>after party?

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<v Speaker 3>He wasn't there when I was there because we left.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we were there for a while, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think he he. I know, he did the stage door

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<v Speaker 3>at the Beacon afterwards, so he was probably like meeting people.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did get to meet Jacob Anderson Louis de

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<v Speaker 2>Pont de Lacy. Ira and him are friendly, and Ira

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<v Speaker 2>introduced us. Oh my god, Jacob actually revealed to me

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<v Speaker 2>how he gets the fake blood off of him and

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<v Speaker 2>it's shaving cream. What yeah, wait, not dish soap, not

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<v Speaker 2>oil based facial cleanser.

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<v Speaker 1>Shaving cream, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>And I asked him, well, do you also shave when

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<v Speaker 3>you're like removing the fake blood? And he was like no,

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 3>and maybe I should do that. I was like, yeah,

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:57.160
<v Speaker 3>I killed two birds with one stone. He went, yeah,

0:25:57.359 --> 0:25:59.199
<v Speaker 3>killed two birds with one stone. And then I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>can we take a photo?

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<v Speaker 2>Love?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>It was. It was so fun. It was like such

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:10.880
<v Speaker 3>an amazing night. I looked insanely hot.

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:12.400
<v Speaker 1>You, I have to say.

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 3>I knew everyone was gonna be wearing black, so I

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:21.199
<v Speaker 3>went in the opposite direction and more silver and it

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 3>was just a yeah, it was a fab night. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>so excited that what I think is the best show

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<v Speaker 3>on TV is back and I do have access to

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 3>screeners for all the episodes, but I think I'm gonna

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 3>wait and just watch them as they roll out live.

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 3>I really like watching along with everyone else.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, babes, that is a shift from it what you

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<v Speaker 2>said last You said you were going to watch you

0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 2>were not gonna be able to wait, and I actually

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 2>really I support you waiting. I think that that will

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:49.399
<v Speaker 2>feel more pure.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm you know, I'm happy that I watched that. I

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<v Speaker 3>saw the first episode in a theater. It was like,

0:26:56.920 --> 0:27:01.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, a really amazing experience, and like, I'm fine

0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 3>that I got to see that a couple of days

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:05.280
<v Speaker 3>before the season premieres. But yeah, with everything else, I

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:08.159
<v Speaker 3>kind of would like to stick with the weekly release.

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 3>That's how I like to consume my media.

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's literally perhaps it's definitely your favorite sho

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:16.200
<v Speaker 2>on television period, right, Yes.

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 3>And I Interview with the Vampire and The Gilded Age

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 3>are are tied for my fa favorite my favorite shows

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 3>currently on TV.

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 2>But surely Interview with a Vampire edges it out. No,

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 2>it's not to pit you against your your not to

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:33.400
<v Speaker 2>make you choose your darling. It's not to Sophie's choice here, No, it.

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Does Interview with the Vampire.

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.480
<v Speaker 3>Interview with the Vampire has a lot of what the

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 3>Guilded Age has, you know, it has like the period

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:43.880
<v Speaker 3>costume drama aspect, because so much of it is flashbacks

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 3>because these are vampires.

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 1>And the guild.

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 3>But but it also has you know, modern day and

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 3>vampires and gay sex, which the Gilded Age does not

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 3>yet have. And would you say, sorry, this is so

0:27:57.600 --> 0:27:59.160
<v Speaker 3>pointless to put them against each other, but I would,

0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 3>I would say based on your reviews because I haven't

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 3>really seen either shown full. But it feels like the

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 3>Vampire listet has provided a bit more consistent entertainment where

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 3>the Gilded Age had.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't you say that there was I liked I liked

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 2>to guild it. It was a season that weighed No, I

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 2>loved it from episode never mind I missed it for

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 2>better every season. Oh love that?

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, But Interview with the Vampire has been one hundred

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:27.880
<v Speaker 3>percent perfect from the first episode it there's no skips.

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I I mean, look, we'll see if I join

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 2>in because like I am not, I'm not gonna I'm

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 2>not gonna pressure you, but I will be discussing it

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 2>on the show, and who knows, maybe maybe my enjoyment

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 2>of it will move you. But one thing you did see, uh,

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 2>that I had already seen, was Obsession. Yes, I want

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 2>to hear your thoughts. I saw it last night, so

0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 2>it's fresh on my mind. For the Virgin. Obsession follows

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:05.480
<v Speaker 2>the story of a guy named Bear and a girl

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 2>named Nicki and their two friends. And Bear has like

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 2>an obliterating crush on Nicki and Niki perhaps probably does

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 2>not reciprocate, and so he is kind of like, you know,

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 2>his cat dies. He's feeling really low, he's feeling like

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 2>he's hit a wall trying to woo Nicki and totally

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 2>impulsively is at a crystal store. Very what was the

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 2>name of the crystal store you went to in Los Angeles?

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Fuck Okay, I want to plug them now, even though

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't actually think people should spend money on crystals.

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 2>But it is a famous crystal store and it is

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 2>called Oh I don't remember, the gays own it. They'll

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 2>tell the virgins will tell us, Yeah, drop your favorite

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 2>crystal store in the comments. But he buys a something

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 2>called a wishing willow, A one wish willow, A one

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 2>wish willow. You snap a little twig, and you make

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 2>a wish and your wish comes true, and he impulsively

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 2>snaps it and says, I wish Nikki loved me more

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 2>than anyone in the world.

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 3>He clearly has never watched any kind of media where

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 3>they discuss Genie rules, because you know that you have

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 3>to be specific about your wording when making wishes.

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 2>You have to word it so clearly, and even when

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 2>you do, they still find a way to fuck with you.

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes every time, reat we don't actually want our wishes.

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 2>That's that's a I mean, I don't think the film,

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 2>to be honest, Like, my take is that I don't

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 2>actually think the film dug deep into any of its themes,

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:45.719
<v Speaker 2>one of them being like do we really want what

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 2>we wish for? What are the kind of like what

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 2>are the kind of like human impulses around unrequited love

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 2>and what do we do with them? And then this

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 2>also kind of like there's like a I don't know,

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this is actually surrounding the film,

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 2>But the first thing that came to mind is that

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 2>there is a literal gen z Witch conversation asking if

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 2>love potions and and and love spells are non consensual.

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and yeah, I do think you can look at

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 3>this film as an allegory for rape, particularly you know,

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 3>date rape or like intimate partner rape or you know,

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 3>any kind of like sexual assault.

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 2>Like, but the film doesn't go there at all.

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't go there.

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 3>But I think I think it's it's gesturing towards that idea,

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 3>like I think, particularly because you know, to sort of

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 3>finish the recap, you know, the wishes made. Nikki becomes

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 3>obsessed and it seems like she's possessed by something demonic.

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 2>It becomes a demon possession story essentially, but this wish.

0:31:56.200 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 3>There are these moments in the film where what seems

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 3>to be the real Nikki breaks through and so good,

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 3>those those are devastating, chilling because she's sobbing, she's asking,

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 3>she's begging Bear to kill her. Yes, and that was

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 3>the best part of the film to me, those moments,

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 3>to me, those and the last shot, which I won't spoil.

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 3>But like the end of the film, what we end

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 3>on to me very much is nodding to making this

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 3>parallel to a rape survivor's experience. But I agree that

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 3>it does not commit enough to that, And I think

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 3>that is probably because it was written and directed by

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 3>a man, right.

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I something I want to like say. I

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 2>have mostly like kind of critiques to talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a little message that's saying trying to reconnect.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that showing on your computer or just no?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 1>I can hear you. I just want to be sure

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<v Speaker 1>it's still recording.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it currently showing that message?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it just says trying to reconnect to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>you have a stable internet connection.

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<v Speaker 1>Hm hmm, and my internet.

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<v Speaker 3>Is stable, so ism let's let's stop and start and I'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Just edit edit these together.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you sure?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's fine, okay, thanks. Oh wait, it's like not

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<v Speaker 3>even letting me do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmmm mmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>It won't let you stop the recording. M m hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>I want your vape so bad right now. I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>what would happen if you opened the same link on

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<v Speaker 2>a new window while keeping this window open.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's try.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it says recording and progress, So I guess it

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<v Speaker 3>is recording and I'll figure out how to cut.

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<v Speaker 1>This out of the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you mind?

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<v Speaker 1>It's fine?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I was kind of we were on the

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 3>subject of do we say the ending or, and it

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 3>was just I was just saying that it gestures to

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 3>the rape metaphor, but without really committing to it be

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:37.439
<v Speaker 3>probably because it was written and directed by a man.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I want to get into I want to get

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 2>into like my critiques, so I'll preface them with the

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 2>things that I really loved about the film. I love

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:54.239
<v Speaker 2>that it was a quote unquote micro budget film.

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 1>It was.

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 2>I think it costs less than a million dollars in

0:34:57.680 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 2>the production. It's not counting like like marketing and stuff.

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:04.880
<v Speaker 3>And I believe it was mostly filmed in Curry Barker's apartment,

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 3>which is that the cost is solo.

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's only twenty six.

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 2>That's so crazy to me. It is I just understand

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 2>broken records in its production budget to revenue, giving very

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 2>blair witch in terms of the discrepancy between how much

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:27.359
<v Speaker 2>a cost to make and how much money it made.

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 2>And it also has increased in box office sales week

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:35.799
<v Speaker 2>over week, which like does not happen really, especially for

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 2>films like this. So I think it's really cool that

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 2>this is an original idea that is a micro budget

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:43.840
<v Speaker 2>that somebody took a risk on and that it's successful,

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Like we need more films like that. I also will

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:53.799
<v Speaker 2>say that, uh, what's her face? Denavaret Indi Navarette. I

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:57.319
<v Speaker 2>mean she kind of screwed the pooch by telling people

0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 2>that she was inspired by Mia Gotha and Pearl, because

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:04.440
<v Speaker 2>I'll of course then compared her to miagoth and Pearl,

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 2>and I you know, if the Virgins remember loved Pearl,

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.239
<v Speaker 2>loved the final scene of Pearl, loved Meogothan Pearl. But

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 2>I think the film is a little boring. And part

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:17.320
<v Speaker 2>of that is because so much of the film rests

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 2>on Mia goth and her ability to be kind of terrifying,

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 2>and that was the same case with Indian. Neverat is

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:26.800
<v Speaker 2>that this this scariness of the film was one hundred

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 2>percent leaning on her and her ability to be creepy,

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 2>and she was very successful at that often. But was

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 2>she successful at at one hundred percent of the time?

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I would say no. I would say there were many

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 2>things that the Shi did that were not that scary

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 2>to me. Some of her movements were not scary to me.

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 2>When she was like wailing and crying, there was like

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 2>maybe one moment where it was scary, other moments where

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it's not. I also think that there's an

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 2>image that they used where she's like she's lit from

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:57.600
<v Speaker 2>the back and cascaded and dark. You basically can't see

0:36:57.680 --> 0:37:01.239
<v Speaker 2>her features at all, and she looks so scary in

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 2>the way that this image is shot, and they use

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 2>that trick like seven or eight times, and so it

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 2>just became less and less scary as it went on.

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 2>But what she does with the role is nonetheless really

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 2>really impressive, and I think she's gonna get a lot

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 2>of work now.

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 3>For me, it was the most exciting thing about it

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:24.320
<v Speaker 3>was seeing this, you know, very captivating new performer who

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:27.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm excited to see in other things. I really really

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:31.279
<v Speaker 3>liked her performance in this. I think again, as I

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 3>said last episode, I do not think you can compare

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 3>it to something like Isabella Johnny in Possession.

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>No, but.

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 3>I thought this movie was very interesting. It is sort

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 3>of like a referendum on where straight people are at

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 3>in culture, and it's pretty much as bad as it's

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:51.839
<v Speaker 3>always been.

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, again, there were a lot of kind of

0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 2>themes that were not really touched on. And I guess

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not someone who really needs a movie. I like

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 2>a simple movie. I don't need a movie to be

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 2>deep or to make me think, But I just I

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 2>felt like there was a lot left on the table,

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 2>and that was kind of one of them is like

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:15.240
<v Speaker 2>this this the state of compulsory heterosexuality, and like how

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 2>certain kind of hetero relationships like really aren't They're not

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 2>able to communicate at all and in ways that are shocking.

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 2>I think it to that effect, and I don't want

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:28.120
<v Speaker 2>to spoil the fat the last third. I do think

0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 2>that the third act of the film is like I

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 2>really love the third act. I think we can I

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:35.560
<v Speaker 2>think we can spoil it. It's been long enough. Yeah, Okay,

0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:36.279
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna spoil it.

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're talking spoilers.

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so virgins, we're about to spoil obsessions. Gep ahead

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:47.239
<v Speaker 2>so that you don't hear anything. I She ends up

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 2>killing one of She ends up killing both of their

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 2>two friends, and the bear is freaking out because Nikki

0:38:56.800 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 2>is like clearly like demon possessed. He's realizing that all

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:01.760
<v Speaker 2>of this shit is like coming true. He's like realized

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 2>that he's like, you know, backed into a corner. He

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:06.719
<v Speaker 2>goes back to the crystal store, which is like the

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 2>thing he should have done the very beginning, but whatever,

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 2>this is a horror movie. Of course you're gonna do that.

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Last he went back to the crystal store. He gets

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 2>a wishing wand he is trying to get someone to

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 2>use it. He gets multiple wishing ones. He's trying to

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 2>get people to use them to undo the wish because

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 2>he himself can't do it. You can only get one wish.

0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 2>You can't do a second. And Nicki what he goes

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 2>and his plan isn't working. Nick he goes into the bathroom,

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 2>decides to kill himself with a bottle of oxy and

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 2>then right after he does that, Nicki from outside the

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:44.920
<v Speaker 2>bathroom because he's locked her out, snaps the wishing wand

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 2>and wishes that makes the same wish, but for him.

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:51.360
<v Speaker 2>She wishes that he loved her back the same way,

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 2>and so they they reunite and for a brief and

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:59.319
<v Speaker 2>wondrous moment, they're like covered in blood. They're two best

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 2>friends dead alongside them and they're like, oh my god,

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 2>we're going to love each other the exact same and

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 2>it's this manic demon for demon kind of relationship. And

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:14.719
<v Speaker 2>then he dies. When he dies, the Niki Niki is

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:17.839
<v Speaker 2>basically broken free from the spell because the thing she's

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 2>in love with is no longer there, and she's back

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 2>to being the real Nikki, and the real Niki essentially

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:26.919
<v Speaker 2>wakes up, sees all of her friends dead around her,

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:30.719
<v Speaker 2>covered in blood, and just is left with that. And

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:34.799
<v Speaker 2>then I think also in that moment, is realizing the

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:38.400
<v Speaker 2>extent of what happened to her and what she's survived.

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:40.839
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I do think you Know It very

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:45.400
<v Speaker 2>much is again trying to sort.

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:50.239
<v Speaker 3>Of be a rape allegory. Yes, because that felt very

0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 3>very much like the aftermath of a sexual assault.

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:55.319
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 1>One thing I.

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.439
<v Speaker 3>Appreciated about the film is that it did not really

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:04.560
<v Speaker 3>try to explain the one wish Willow yes there. I

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:06.960
<v Speaker 3>really liked that scene where he goes back to the

0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:10.400
<v Speaker 3>magic store and the guy's like, oh, yeah, like you

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 3>made a wish, like those things work, and like it's not.

0:41:13.640 --> 0:41:16.759
<v Speaker 1>It's like this kind of magical realism or like.

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:21.839
<v Speaker 3>He he gets he tries to convince his best friend,

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 3>who he finds out was actually secretly fucking Nikki all along.

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:29.479
<v Speaker 3>He tries to get him to make a new wish

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:32.320
<v Speaker 3>that will override his wish, and the friend just wishes

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 3>for a billion dollars and it just starts falling from

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 3>the ceiling, which is crazy, which is crazy, And I

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 3>like that because I like that it it's hinting that

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:45.279
<v Speaker 3>this is a bigger, more kind of magical, you know,

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 3>world than we kind of understand, But the movie is

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:50.719
<v Speaker 3>not interested in exploring that, and I do really like it.

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 3>I like those kinds of horror and fantasy stories where

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 3>we're seeing just kind of like a slice.

0:41:57.960 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Of something without getting it to explain to us. So

0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:05.319
<v Speaker 2>that part of it I really appreciated. It was more like,

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 2>I agree that the film was not super scary. It

0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 2>was more creepy and unsettling, and I just wanted it

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:17.280
<v Speaker 2>to like lean in more to what I was trying

0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:19.799
<v Speaker 2>to say. I agree, and I think it's I think

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:24.239
<v Speaker 2>it's very promising. It's a very promising look at a

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 2>new horror filmmaker, a new scream queen in Indian Everette.

0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes like the script did feel like a first draft.

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 2>I won't lie. I think that there were and and

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 2>that's and I'm saying that kind of like with love

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:41.560
<v Speaker 2>and adoration because I'm just like kind of glad that

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:43.400
<v Speaker 2>it got made. And I think it's like a fucking

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 2>cool movie. To be honest, even if I there are

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 2>things that I want to dig deeper into as I

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:52.799
<v Speaker 2>as we always want to do. I definitely also to

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 2>the point that you just made about, like the rape allegory,

0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 2>and also just what we wish it would explored. The

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 2>big territory for me was, as I said earlier, there's

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:10.719
<v Speaker 2>this really gripping scene where Nicki is asleep. He's trying

0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:14.960
<v Speaker 2>to sneak out she that she starts talking in her sleep,

0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:17.920
<v Speaker 2>and we find out that the Nikki talking is the

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:20.359
<v Speaker 2>real Nikki, not the demon possessed Nikki, and she's saying,

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:23.759
<v Speaker 2>please kill me. It's very much a Sigourney Weaver and

0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Alien for ll me kill me. Oh my god, I

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 2>forgot about that, and it yeah, like it's chilling, And

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:39.280
<v Speaker 2>in that moment, what we realize is that Bear actually

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 2>is pretty evil. Oh absolutely, if we didn't, if we

0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:47.399
<v Speaker 2>thought that he was a victim for part of this film,

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 2>which is part of the film, does position it that

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:51.920
<v Speaker 2>way for part for a lot of the movie?

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:53.879
<v Speaker 1>I think that I don't.

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:57.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I agree with position he didn't

0:43:57.400 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 2>think the wish was gonna work. I think that that's

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 2>in his favor, you know what I mean, Yeah, but

0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:06.640
<v Speaker 2>I do think the film still, yes, he judges for

0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:11.640
<v Speaker 2>what for what he's okay, John, And I think because

0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:14.200
<v Speaker 2>because he's like he's stringing her along still he's like

0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:16.920
<v Speaker 2>hiding the fact that she's not well.

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:19.880
<v Speaker 3>And also and also there are many there are so

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 3>many points within the film where he is confronted with

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:29.240
<v Speaker 3>what he's done and how he has ruined this girl,

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:33.399
<v Speaker 3>his lifelong friend from what we can glean because they

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:35.880
<v Speaker 3>talk about, you know, growing up together. He's ruined her

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 3>life essentially like murdered her, is kind of raping her

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:40.879
<v Speaker 3>body nightly.

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:42.880
<v Speaker 2>And is and has chosen not to do.

0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:47.439
<v Speaker 3>And and there are multiple points where something happens where

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:51.120
<v Speaker 3>he is really confronted by the reality of all this

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 3>and he has the chance to maybe not make it right,

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 3>but like, yes, go back to the crystal store, go

0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:00.279
<v Speaker 3>back to the crystal store. Or when he he's told

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 3>that the wish will only end when he dies, and

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:05.839
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of what prompts him to kill himself and

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:08.319
<v Speaker 3>he can't even follow through on that. There's so many

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:11.080
<v Speaker 3>points in the film where he goes to the brink

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:14.160
<v Speaker 3>of realizing how horrible what he's done is and then

0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:17.880
<v Speaker 3>he just backtracks it because he's still ultimately and I

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 3>think what this movie is saying is men will still

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:25.440
<v Speaker 3>take the easy way to have women in whatever way

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:29.720
<v Speaker 3>they can, even if it's not the reality of that woman,

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 3>or that woman in the way that she would or

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.359
<v Speaker 3>that woman in a way that she would not consent to.

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:38.839
<v Speaker 3>They'll still take it. They will take whatever they can get.

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 2>And part of it because the ending was full nihilism,

0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:47.440
<v Speaker 2>like it's everybody's dead, which and in the worst case scenario,

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 2>I think it can be very babies. Well, I mean,

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:52.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I actually really like explosive endings, so

0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:53.680
<v Speaker 2>maybe I did kind of like that element of it.

0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:59.879
<v Speaker 2>But my thing, I really felt like there was an

0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:05.759
<v Speaker 2>opportunity actually to show in the final act that he

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 2>was actually the real villain. I think that as critics

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:13.400
<v Speaker 2>were kind of like, oh, he's the real villain, but like,

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:16.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I kind of I thought that there

0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 2>could have been another turn in the film where he

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 2>is truly actually so so evil. I think, I.

0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Don't know.

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I thought that him vomiting up the pills he takes

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 2>was like so reprehensible and so evil and so clearly. Oh,

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 2>I forgot about that.

0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I thought it.

0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:46.960
<v Speaker 3>I just feel like it would be very hard to

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:50.399
<v Speaker 3>watch this film and not understand that he's a bad guy.

0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:52.640
<v Speaker 3>I think the film is making that very clear. I

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:56.279
<v Speaker 3>do think that many people could watch this film and

0:46:56.320 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 3>not interpret it that way. I think a lot of

0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:00.960
<v Speaker 3>men will see this film, and I'll interpret it that

0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:04.120
<v Speaker 3>way and even maybe see it as like something they

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:06.880
<v Speaker 3>would want. I think a lot of in cells will

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:10.200
<v Speaker 3>will kind of I don't know, maybe even rally behind

0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 3>this film. I think it will kind of like prove

0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:16.919
<v Speaker 3>something to them. I hate that, but I do think

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 3>it's it's very clear that he is the villain. But

0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:23.960
<v Speaker 3>our culture has a problem, a question for the culture.

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:26.720
<v Speaker 3>Just does the culture know he's the villain?

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure. I don't think that was really I

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:34.000
<v Speaker 2>think that there was a missed opportunity to paint that

0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:36.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of picture. I don't need it to be hampsted,

0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:36.880
<v Speaker 2>but whatever.

0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 3>Anyways, before we before we end for today, I really

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:44.960
<v Speaker 3>want you to tell me how Euphoria ended, because I'm

0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:48.920
<v Speaker 3>never gonna watch it. I don't care, but I would

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 3>really love for you to give me an unhinged breakdown

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:56.480
<v Speaker 3>of the end. Of Euphoria because I'm sure our listeners

0:47:57.000 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 3>who don't watch would also.

0:47:58.280 --> 0:47:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Like to hear it.

0:47:59.440 --> 0:48:06.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to give any sort of comprehensive summary, unfortunately,

0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:11.920
<v Speaker 2>because I watched the overwhelming majority of this season with

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:17.600
<v Speaker 2>my laptop open and my phone being scrolled. So and

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:21.880
<v Speaker 2>per the tweet that I sent to Rose, somebody spoiler

0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:26.160
<v Speaker 2>alert for Euphoria season finale. If you don't want Euphoria's spoilers,

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:29.120
<v Speaker 2>the show is not really that good. I think it's whatever.

0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna be fine, but whatever, if you want to skip,

0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:38.480
<v Speaker 2>go ahead. Rude dies, as does Jacob a Lordie, And

0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:43.160
<v Speaker 2>there was a tweet that said, damn Rue died while

0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:46.360
<v Speaker 2>I was getting my cheeks clapped. I'm so sorry Rue,

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't mean to do that, Like, and that's

0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:54.719
<v Speaker 2>fucking during Euphoria, baby Baby. Actually I bring up the

0:48:54.719 --> 0:49:01.799
<v Speaker 2>tweet because I actually think it brings a perfect thematic

0:49:02.280 --> 0:49:06.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of assessment of this sentiment around the third season

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:11.399
<v Speaker 2>of the show, in that it's second screen content. It

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:16.239
<v Speaker 2>is like, oh, obligatory watching, but also we're not really

0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:18.200
<v Speaker 2>that into it. We get bored. We're gonna like maybe

0:49:18.200 --> 0:49:20.480
<v Speaker 2>fuck instead, or I'm gonna look on my phone instead,

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:22.960
<v Speaker 2>like that's it was a testament. Actually do the quality

0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:25.200
<v Speaker 2>of the show that it would become a show that

0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:27.399
<v Speaker 2>you fucked to? Which I think that's like kind of

0:49:27.480 --> 0:49:30.480
<v Speaker 2>what a fuck show is. Okay, it's like a low

0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:31.080
<v Speaker 2>quality show.

0:49:31.120 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 3>What would you say, are other fuck shows? Malcolm in

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:41.439
<v Speaker 3>the Middle, Avatar, The Last Airbender, not Malcolm in the Middle. Well,

0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:45.120
<v Speaker 3>maybe I can't any I can't fuck while an animated

0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:45.880
<v Speaker 3>show is playing.

0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh I absolutely could. Ohio Miyazaki, oh down.

0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:52.040
<v Speaker 1>If you but would you fuck during Ferngully?

0:49:52.320 --> 0:49:54.960
<v Speaker 2>I would fuck during fern Gully, Boots, any show that

0:49:54.960 --> 0:49:57.480
<v Speaker 2>you've seen before, absolutely anything if you have.

0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:00.279
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0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:08.440
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0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:12.000
<v Speaker 2>It's so good. Patreon, so good, it's so good. Dot

0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:15.799
<v Speaker 2>com three times slash like a virgin. Yes, I uh

0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:18.439
<v Speaker 2>maybe three Yes, I'm two and a half. I love

0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:21.319
<v Speaker 2>I love that episode. My show is my favorite show.

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:23.440
<v Speaker 2>You guys, it's we I love listening to us in

0:50:23.520 --> 0:50:28.480
<v Speaker 2>our friendship. Okay, so girl, I won't I won't summarize

0:50:28.480 --> 0:50:33.319
<v Speaker 2>the whole plot. But basically everyone at the front from

0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:36.839
<v Speaker 2>the start of the film, every every single character is

0:50:36.880 --> 0:50:40.360
<v Speaker 2>either a sex worker or a facilitator of sex workers.

0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:45.080
<v Speaker 2>It is kind of cuckoo bananas, a bizarre and very

0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:50.239
<v Speaker 2>like clear choice. Rue is working at this strip club

0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:53.799
<v Speaker 2>called the Silver Slipper. Rose Alia's cameo is like a

0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:56.200
<v Speaker 2>stripper with a neck brace who kind of advances the plot.

0:50:56.520 --> 0:50:59.239
<v Speaker 2>The villain of this season, I can't remember even his

0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:03.560
<v Speaker 2>character's name, is like the owner of the Silver Slipper.

0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Hunter Schaeffer, in a kind of totally different terrain of

0:51:07.200 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 2>the show, finds herself being a sugar baby for a

0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:16.960
<v Speaker 2>surgeon that pays her rent. Nothing is exported in that,

0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:21.320
<v Speaker 2>like her plotline is basically non existent. And Sidney Sweeney

0:51:21.400 --> 0:51:24.399
<v Speaker 2>becomes is like in pursuit of becoming an onlyfan star,

0:51:25.120 --> 0:51:31.319
<v Speaker 2>and Matt and Alexa Demi Maddie becomes her manager like

0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:37.839
<v Speaker 2>her madame, and it is just like such a There's

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<v Speaker 2>so many things that I think we're confusing about the

0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 2>show and its many turns, but I would say in

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<v Speaker 2>a sentence, it is a kind of Quentin Tarantino pastiche

0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:53.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of moment the film that the series is set

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<v Speaker 2>in like desert California, and the backdrop is strip clubs, saloons,

0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:07.080
<v Speaker 2>drug heis. It's many moments, both in music and sound,

0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:13.600
<v Speaker 2>and both music set, sound cues, tropes, plot lines borrow

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<v Speaker 2>from an era of westerns, American westerns, Spaghetti westerns, I

0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:23.880
<v Speaker 2>would say, And obviously Tarantino is famous for his modern

0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:29.480
<v Speaker 2>interpretation of the spaghetti western. What Sam Levinson does is

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps maybe a more expensive looking version of it, a

0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:37.080
<v Speaker 2>more Petro Collins toned version of it. But I did

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<v Speaker 2>not really feel like there was It's missing something that

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<v Speaker 2>we kind of loved about the first few seasons of Euphoria,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a sense of invention. To be honest, I

0:52:47.160 --> 0:52:50.200
<v Speaker 2>don't mind that the show is like a lot of extremities.

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:54.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't mind that the show really rests on shock

0:52:54.600 --> 0:53:00.760
<v Speaker 2>value like it's always like it always has. But the

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<v Speaker 2>final the final episode of this show basically is the

0:53:07.000 --> 0:53:13.440
<v Speaker 2>villain of this owner of the Silver Slipper has gone

0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:16.200
<v Speaker 2>through the ringer with Rue in a kind of push pull,

0:53:18.040 --> 0:53:21.040
<v Speaker 2>twisty turney relationship of do I trust you? Are you

0:53:21.080 --> 0:53:22.799
<v Speaker 2>gonna betray me? Do I trust you? Are you gonna

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<v Speaker 2>betray me, and Rue as the kind of schlepper for

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<v Speaker 2>the strip club, is constantly doing his bidding but also

0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:33.799
<v Speaker 2>kind of sneaking around. Ultimately, after all a said and done,

0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:36.520
<v Speaker 2>and Rue, for the tenth time in the series, makes

0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:40.680
<v Speaker 2>her final escape. She has like transcended and escaped impossible

0:53:40.680 --> 0:53:45.200
<v Speaker 2>circumstances through the entire series that are like very very

0:53:45.320 --> 0:53:48.600
<v Speaker 2>like plot plot plot, high wire ax car chases, like

0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:54.640
<v Speaker 2>the masterfulness of Sam Levinson's like suspend attention. After all

0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:58.880
<v Speaker 2>of that, he literally just poisons her with fentanyl, a

0:53:58.960 --> 0:54:04.080
<v Speaker 2>fentanyl painkiller that she takes because she got beat up,

0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:08.439
<v Speaker 2>and it's like and that he gives her like and

0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:12.160
<v Speaker 2>she takes it when she goes home to Coleman Domingo's house.

0:54:12.239 --> 0:54:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Her if you don't remember, Ru's AA sponsor, is played

0:54:17.560 --> 0:54:20.040
<v Speaker 2>by Colemen Domingo. He's like quite a beating heart of

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<v Speaker 2>the show and is something of a father figure to her.

0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:26.000
<v Speaker 2>And she dies on his couch and Coleman Domingo goes

0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:29.040
<v Speaker 2>back to the Silver Slipper looking for her revenge in

0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:31.879
<v Speaker 2>a scene that is very satisfying, but ultimately it's kind

0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:35.120
<v Speaker 2>of like it was just upsetting to watch Rue die

0:54:35.200 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 2>and you know, Sam Levin Sinas said, had said, you know,

0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:42.960
<v Speaker 2>people like Rue don't survive. You know, addicts don't survive essentially,

0:54:44.000 --> 0:54:45.560
<v Speaker 2>which I think is crazy.

0:54:45.840 --> 0:54:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's really depressing.

0:54:48.120 --> 0:54:52.120
<v Speaker 2>And also the selective realism. Dog like you, your show

0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:58.759
<v Speaker 2>rests on extremism. Your show rests on like just do

0:54:58.880 --> 0:55:01.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know doing the most. It's not a show

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<v Speaker 2>based in realism. I would say it's portrait of addiction

0:55:03.600 --> 0:55:06.960
<v Speaker 2>is often realist, but that's because of Zendaya, not because

0:55:07.000 --> 0:55:09.239
<v Speaker 2>of Sam Levinson. Sorry, I'm gonna say it.

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<v Speaker 1>And correct me if I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>But there was speculation that the show might return for

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<v Speaker 3>a fourth season, but HBO has announced that it's.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure over. It's for sure over. There's no if

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<v Speaker 2>censor butts around it. If they want to be evil

0:55:25.320 --> 0:55:29.360
<v Speaker 2>and create a spinoff, I'm sure they will, like with

0:55:29.440 --> 0:55:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Coleman Domingo or you know, to be honest, it would

0:55:32.560 --> 0:55:35.600
<v Speaker 2>be Sidney and maybe Alexademi or maybe just a Sydney show.

0:55:35.640 --> 0:55:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Sidney Sweeney to me, had the most to do for

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<v Speaker 2>the entire series. There's a lot of existing discourse about

0:55:43.640 --> 0:55:45.480
<v Speaker 2>how she was used in this season. I don't know

0:55:45.520 --> 0:55:47.440
<v Speaker 2>if I can really add more to it, I think

0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:50.359
<v Speaker 2>I would point you to a New Yorker article by

0:55:50.400 --> 0:55:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Inku Khan about the show's portrayal of sex work among

0:55:54.680 --> 0:55:59.840
<v Speaker 2>a few other shows like Margo's Got Money, Troubles and

0:56:00.560 --> 0:56:02.800
<v Speaker 2>but as it points out at as many critics have

0:56:02.880 --> 0:56:06.279
<v Speaker 2>point out pointed out, Sidney Sweeney kind of the show

0:56:06.360 --> 0:56:09.360
<v Speaker 2>gestures towards the stigma of sex work and makes jokes

0:56:09.400 --> 0:56:11.520
<v Speaker 2>about how their you know, sex work is work or

0:56:12.239 --> 0:56:15.920
<v Speaker 2>things like that. But at the same but simultaneously, Sidney

0:56:15.960 --> 0:56:23.360
<v Speaker 2>Sweeney has to enact every single kind of either exploitative,

0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:27.799
<v Speaker 2>kind of sexist archetype of a sex worker or the

0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:36.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of male, gazy sexual exploitation and performance of a

0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:39.480
<v Speaker 2>woman who is in sex work. There was it was

0:56:39.680 --> 0:56:42.399
<v Speaker 2>all glamour. I mean, obviously horrible things happened to her,

0:56:42.400 --> 0:56:44.640
<v Speaker 2>But to me, the portrayal of sex work was one

0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:50.799
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent glamor. It was not really that nuanced at

0:56:50.800 --> 0:56:53.640
<v Speaker 2>all to me, not that we expect it to be,

0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:57.360
<v Speaker 2>but uh, what was I think what a lot of

0:56:57.400 --> 0:57:00.319
<v Speaker 2>people are talking about is that there's a film where

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<v Speaker 2>in Sidney Sweeney's character refers to democrats as retarded, and

0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:10.560
<v Speaker 2>it's clear that Sam Levinson is using Sidney Sweeney's public

0:57:10.600 --> 0:57:14.759
<v Speaker 2>image outside of the show and taking her having her

0:57:14.880 --> 0:57:21.240
<v Speaker 2>character Cassie play into that and exhaust interesting. It was really,

0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:26.080
<v Speaker 2>really weird, and you know, Sidney Sweeney is full of agencies.

0:57:26.240 --> 0:57:29.680
<v Speaker 2>She was fully willing to do it. I you know,

0:57:29.880 --> 0:57:33.000
<v Speaker 2>commend her for that whatever, But yeah, it was. The

0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:35.320
<v Speaker 2>show was a little bit of a nothing burger. I

0:57:35.320 --> 0:57:38.880
<v Speaker 2>won't lie nothing. Really very happy that I did not

0:57:39.040 --> 0:57:45.240
<v Speaker 2>continue watching it. Yeah, I I I don't know if

0:57:45.280 --> 0:57:49.520
<v Speaker 2>you have a heart out, but I do need to

0:57:49.800 --> 0:57:51.400
<v Speaker 2>wrap it up, but we have.

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<v Speaker 3>We have some lingering things to talk about that will

0:57:54.600 --> 0:57:57.320
<v Speaker 3>push to next week. Push next week. I did see

0:57:57.440 --> 0:57:59.600
<v Speaker 3>back Rooms. I think fran is going to see it,

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have a stop button on your screen? No, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna hope that if I just end session for all,

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna work. We'll see, okay,