1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Podcast play Ground Taking a Walk with Buds Night. All right, 2 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: well I'm going to start this Bill leave as we're 3 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: taking a walk with Bill Lee the spaceman here and 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: we're in Full River, Massachusetts. We'll explain why Bill uh, 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: thanks for hanging out here. I want to play a 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: little I used to call this poetry corner, this little 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: game good and I want you to hear the poem 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: and see if you can guess the song that it 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: actually is. Okay, really, all right, So I'm an old 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: poetry fan from way back. Ready, good, okay, and you 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: jump right in whenever you want. Bang bang shoot him up, Destiny, 12 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 1: bang bang, shoot him up to the moon, bang bang 13 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: shoot him up. One two three, one two three four. 14 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: I want to be a space fan, ye, Mary Nielsen, 15 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: one of my freaking soulmates from La. Oh my god, 16 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: what a way to start to take it. A walk 17 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: podcast with Bill Winning. You went a prize? Well, I 18 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: don't win a prize. I just pitched. When they brought 19 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: me to the mound in Kansas City three weeks ago 20 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: with Jane Levy, the great author from the Washington Post. 21 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: They brought me out. I grabbed a Budweiser from a 22 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: fan in the front row. I chugged down the half 23 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: a Budweiser light, flipped it over my shoulder, went out 24 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: on the field, did my stretches, did my bend down, 25 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: did my round kick up over my head, got ready 26 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: and then bang bang shoot him up, Destiny. They played 27 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: the song and I was seventeen years old again, and 28 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: I threw the shit out of the ball and won 29 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: the ball game. I love it. Is that one of 30 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: the greatest songs ever. So it's one of the greatest 31 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: songs all of is the most beautiful world in the world. 32 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: And Joy to the world was a beautiful girl. But 33 00:01:55,280 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: to me, joy men only sorrow, you know. And his 34 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: songs are just there, like Frank Zappa, they're ahead of 35 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: their time. He was probably the greatest songwriter. And then 36 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: Zevon came along and became one of my best friends 37 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: near the end of his life. And the Xivon family, 38 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: the daughter and son live on Route fourteen in Vermont, 39 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: and I live on Route fourteen in Vermont. Wow, how 40 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: the coincidence come about? He his father was a riverboat gambler. 41 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: He was the son of a riverboat gambler and from 42 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: the South, and I end up in the North with 43 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: his daughter and son, and all of my kids live 44 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: in the South. I'm going the guy whoever she is 45 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: that controls the universe. Yes, she's one funny lady. Now, 46 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: did you know Harry Nilson? I never met Harry, but 47 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: I loved music from the get go, and that's been 48 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: the theme of my radio show in Montreal for forty years. 49 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: I start out every four to twenty. That's what I 50 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: do it at four twenty is my spot on radio 51 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: in Montreal station it's six ninety. It's Mitch Millnick Show 52 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: and it's called Answers from Space. I love it and 53 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: I've been doing it for forty years. It's probably the 54 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: most listened to show in all of Montreal. I was 55 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: on for twenty minutes just yesterday talking about doing a tour. 56 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: The Quebec All Star Old Timers are touring Quebec in 57 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: July and early August, and then I'll go down and 58 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: pitch for the Savannah Bananas in late August in September, 59 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: and then I'm done for the year. And I don't 60 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: know where I'm going to go, but I think I'm 61 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: going to tour Canada on a train and go across 62 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: on via rail and play ball all the way across 63 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: Canada with the Savannah bananas and promote this new form 64 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: of baseball which is really exciting. It's quick and it's 65 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: not boring like real baseball. What are the differences. There's 66 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: no stepping out of the batter's box, there's no mountain visits. 67 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: You're not allowed to bunt. You can steal first base 68 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: anytime you want, but you gotta make it. If the 69 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: ball gets by the catcher, you can get it. If 70 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: you walk. You don't walk. You run to first as 71 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: fast as you can and go to second. And every 72 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: player on the opposing team defense has to touch the 73 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: ball before they can tag you out. So it's a rapid, 74 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: quick game. We take a baby out of the stands 75 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: an eight month old baby. We wrap it in a 76 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: banana leaf and we pray to the gods before the game. 77 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 1: It's hilarious. We got guys on stilts. We have sixty 78 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: five year old women called the Nanas that party and 79 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: dance with us. It's funny. And we were on Sunday 80 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: Morning CBS with Jane Pawley two sundays ago. So even 81 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: little old couples from Nebraska know who we are. I 82 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: love the one video I saw where you were in 83 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: the stands drinking the beer and then you get called 84 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: in throw the beer can overhold fact right, that was 85 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: Kansas City. Just read into City. When that was the 86 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: last one, they probably show, Oh my god, how triumphant 87 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 1: is that described the feeling when of being seventeen again. 88 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: There's nothing better. You're seventy five is for a brief 89 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: moment in history. You're seventeen again, But I feel you. 90 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: That's every day for you, and try I try to 91 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 1: make it every day. Today. You saw how you first 92 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: met me first time. I'm sitting down stand in a 93 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: piece of wood and holding court with a bunch of 94 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: fans that come in there. See this, this is mill. 95 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: This is working class America. You're in the bowels of 96 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: Fall River, where the waters fall down and the mills began. 97 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: The first was Slater's miss in Rhode Island. And my 98 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 1: book publisher is right by that mill. So I write 99 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: at one mill, and I make wood at another mill, right, 100 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: and then I'll go out and play against the police 101 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: and fire department. And I was just a major unionist. 102 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: I am Eugene Debs. I am the Eugene Debs that 103 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: are the socialist party that ran for president and got 104 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: seven million votes, you know, and I will be back. 105 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: Eugene is coming back. Google's starting to unionize, Amazon's going 106 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: to unionize, and Apple's going to unionize. And that'll be 107 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 1: the future, and the workers of the world will gain 108 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: a little bit more recognition and will spread the wealth around. 109 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: Money's like manure. It's only good if you spread it 110 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: thinly on the field. You don't want to concentrate it 111 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: in one area because that's where the beef cattle are 112 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: on the side of the road on Interstate five in California, 113 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: up near Bakersfield, and they stand on twelve feet of 114 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: their own shit, and then you eat them at McDonald's. 115 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: You know, that's the worst McDonald's commercial I ever did, 116 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: right here on your show. All right, So back to 117 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: that feeling when you race out, whether you're seventeen or 118 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: seventy five, describe how it feels when you're racing or 119 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: being carted to the mound. Right, Well, what's it like. 120 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: You're in a potential situation where you can die because 121 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: you're sixty feet six inches away from a grandchild that's 122 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: swinging a wood bat and hitting a ball one hundred 123 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: and twelve miles an hour back at you from sixty 124 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: feet away. So you every time you go to the mound, 125 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: you're facing death, potential death. So when you succeed and 126 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: come back and win, you've achieved a great accomplishment that 127 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: you get to live another day. And it's electrifying, isn't it? 128 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: Sure right? It never gets old. It's like little big 129 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: Man Dustin Hoffmann when he goes to Chief Jan George 130 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: and he goes, it's a good day to die, grandfather, 131 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: It's a good day to die, and you live your life. 132 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: You wake up, you're already dead. In the Band of Brothers, 133 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: when the guy ran through the hail of fire and 134 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: came back and ran back through it again, he told him. 135 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: You know, when you were over in Germany in France 136 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: and fighting the Germans, you have to have the opinion 137 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: that you're already dead or you will not live like that. 138 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: I love it. Do you think about some of your 139 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: nemesis that you've faced over your career and wish you 140 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: had that moment to get back and pitch to whomever again? 141 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've been I'll show you. Here's the best 142 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: example I have, right here in my back pocket. It 143 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: was letting you do, let it rain, rain it rain, 144 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: letting dollar bills, shit, ten dollar bills. Jackson a day 145 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: keeps the doctor away. No. I opened up my wallet 146 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: and I go in here, and I pull out fifty 147 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: year old Crank Nettles baseball card right there, And I've 148 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: kept laminated Crank Nettles is up against the right cheek 149 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: of my ass for fifty years. The smell in the 150 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: view do not improve for that set up a bit. 151 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: So every day he's right there. So I carry him 152 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: around because he's the guy who threw me to the 153 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: ground in seventy six in the brawl. So yeah, I 154 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: do hold grudges. Have you ever run into him anywhere? Oh? 155 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: Lots of times. The last time he was at a 156 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: rivalry thing between him and he looked pretty good the 157 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: time before he sat down, and he looked like Benjamin Button, 158 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: getting smaller and smaller. And I said, I said, Jesus Christ, 159 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: I crap bigger than you. Now. He said, you look 160 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: like a fucking dubit of it? What did he say? Nothing? 161 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: He had to take it. He doesn't respond because he 162 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: was below me and I was above him. And if 163 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: he got out of the chair out of coal cock. 164 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: Well he's not the only one though, this guy. By 165 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: the way, my sister in law, if she caught on fire, 166 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: I wouldn't piss on her to put her out. But 167 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: if all of the Craig Nettles cards from all these 168 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: other players were in your freaking wallet, you'd be like 169 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: George Costanzo with the wallet that broke your back. Exactly though, 170 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: he If you seek revenge, take two grades. Loud sue, right, yeah, 171 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: and all great leaders. When everything is said and done, 172 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: the workers say we did it ourselves, And that's loud 173 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: sue too. And you know, I'm a firm believer in 174 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: Zen Buddhism and yoga and relaxation. That's for you. By 175 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: the way, Oh my god, you know that's a chant Yep, 176 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: not Han, cheat, not Han. He died about three months 177 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: ago at ninety five, but forty year old berks. Oh 178 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: look at that. Yeah, wow, prepared five times. Well, thank 179 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: you for that's there you go, there you go. That's 180 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: my token of appreciation. Well, this follows right in line 181 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: with Connections, which was a great TV show by a 182 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: guy on PBS. I can't think of his name right now, 183 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: but he had a show where everything is connected. I mean, 184 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: all these trees are connected, you know. Yeah, describe the 185 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: scene right now. Well, every time I see a tree, 186 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: I think it's a woman buried upside down and there's 187 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: two limbs. And then you look and I look, and 188 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm going, wow, those are nice legs. I don't know 189 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: what the upper part of her body looks like. It's 190 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: something about the salt in the rock. I love rocks. 191 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: I'll show you what the best thing. I'll show you 192 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: the best thing about a rock. That's a nice one too. Yeah, 193 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: that's a nice one. Gotta like it on it. But 194 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: this one is granted. It's pink Orthoclay's granite, you know, 195 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: and it's from New Hampshire. And you stretch and push 196 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: and when you push on a hard and relax and 197 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: lean forward, you think you're moving the rock. Your muscles 198 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: are expanding and stretching, but it gives you the sensation 199 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: that you're not moving. The rock is moving, oh wow. 200 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: And what you're doing is you're doing a yoga contraction 201 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: and breath and this is what allows you to keep 202 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: pitching at the age of seventy five. There you go. 203 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: It's all yoga. It's all stretching, it's all and then 204 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: you can sit here and contemplate everything. People don't do this, 205 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: won't Whitman. Leaves of grass. Baseball is a sport, an 206 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: American sport that will invigorate the youth and let them 207 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: get out and breathe fresh air. He said that a 208 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: long time ago, and leaves of grass beautiful. He went 209 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: to baseball games. And my wine partner is Jeff Whitman, 210 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: a great great great great nephew of his. Oh wow, 211 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: And I make wine with him. And where can folks 212 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: get that wine? It'll be out in the shelves next fall. 213 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: It's called Spaceman Red. There'll be a thousand cases of 214 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: it at the Vermont, I mean the New Hampshire Liquor Store, 215 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: and I'll be there selling it on the side of 216 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: the road, right on the side, right on the side 217 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: of the road, you know, coming by. If you buy 218 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: a case of wine, you get a free back. That's 219 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: the promotion thing. I did it with the other wine, 220 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: nice stuff. Did you ever forgive don Zimmer? No? But 221 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm getting close. I found out later that his wife 222 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: was signing everything because he couldn't write, you know, and 223 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: he had three holes in the left side of his 224 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: head from being beaned, and he had one hole in 225 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: the right side. And I was wondering what that one 226 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: hole was all about on the right side, and I thought, 227 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: maybe it's to let the light out. Maybe not, maybe not. 228 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: You know, he was a pain in the ass, like 229 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: notoriously right taurus. He was a gambler and everything else. 230 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: And him and Joe Mooney, the equipment man, they would 231 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: send the clubhouse boys over to the track over there 232 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: and Revere Wonderland and they'd pace all their bets on 233 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: the dogs and stuff. And it was sad. But he 234 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: got a good job with the Yankees after he got 235 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: rid of me, and he threw a fourteen game lead, 236 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: which has never been done in the American League East 237 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: a long time ago. And he really had it in 238 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: for me. And he's when I was selling bats with 239 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: Louis Ledoux down in Florida. He was at the he 240 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: saw me, and he stumbled, and he backed up and 241 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: got into a golf cart and drove away. And I 242 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: think he died day later or something like that. So 243 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:00,239 Speaker 1: he saw the devil. But Lori Cabot the witch, and 244 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: and Salem is a good close friend of mine, Paul Poyer, 245 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: and I believe I have a little of that druid 246 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: spirit in me that scares the shit out of people 247 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: because I can wiggle my finger like that like Hannibal Lecter, 248 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: and they drop all around me like houseflies. It's very powerful, 249 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: it really is. It is. You made reference to the 250 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: way the game is played now with the changes. You 251 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: know that the Savannah bananas are able to be part 252 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: of So talk about the state of the game today. 253 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: It's terrible. It's all specialized. It's based on numerology. It's 254 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: Bill James. I agree, status statistic, statistics, damn statistic. You've 255 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: got to do it. But in a case of a 256 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: close game, you have to go against the grain and 257 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: hit the ball the other way, lay down a bunt, 258 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: do something exceptional and out of the ordinary, or you're 259 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: not going to win the game. If you hit into 260 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: everybody's trap, you know, just based on your statistics, then 261 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: you're like Ted Williams who was arrogant and tried to 262 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: pull the ball all the time. But I found out 263 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: he didn't. He was a great hitter with two strikes 264 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: and he didn't cut his swing down and he put 265 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: the ball in play, and that's why he's the greatest 266 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: hitter that ever lived. But he was also the greatest 267 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: hitter that ever lived. And I found out because he 268 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: hit on all three of my wives. He hit on Mary, Lou, 269 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: Pam and Diana in a wheelchair. The guy is living 270 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: who was the best hitter that ever lived? And now 271 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: you know the rest of this story. Good day A 272 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: frozen his head, his head. Marine Cronin wanted me to 273 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: go save him and bring him back for a funeral 274 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: on Cape Cod. I said, a Viking funerals. He said, yeah, 275 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: that'd be nice. I said, where are you going to 276 00:17:49,840 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: find three virgins? Oh? My god, isn't it great to laugh? 277 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: It's great. It's it is the best medicine. It's it's 278 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: it is the best. There's nothing, there's nothing better. Nothing 279 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: produces more good feeling. You know, it's amazing, isn't it. 280 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: I am the luckiest guy being here with you. Taking 281 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: into the sights and the sounds of Bill Lee, Well, 282 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: it's a great place. You can hear a singull in 283 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: the background, you know. You can hear the roar over 284 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: the bridge of all the people trying to get the 285 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: Cape Cod, you know, and you don't have to. You 286 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: could be sitting on this rock right here. People are 287 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: in a hurry to get places that they don't really 288 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: want to go. I don't understand it. Okay, I have 289 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: another thing. I don't understand. Everybody's talking now, how there's 290 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: there's everybody's talking now. That's Harry Neilson. That's right, everybody. 291 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: You know what that song was wrong? That was the thing, 292 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: Midnight Cowboy. That's right. Dylan was supposed to write the 293 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: song I'm walking here, I'm following a pot here. Is 294 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: that amazing? It's amazing how we tie it together, so 295 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: everything has a threat. It's all about Harry, all about Harry. 296 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: Do you know the first comedy Hitchcock ever wrote, No 297 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: Troubles with Harry, filmed in Craftsbury, Vermont, where I have 298 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: lived for thirty three years. Holy Mackrel and it became 299 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: Weekend at Bernie's as the remake, but the original was 300 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty five with Shirley McClain Theodore Cleaver and 301 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: I can't think of the guy in the star. He 302 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: was great. It's all about a guy they think they 303 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: killed him, and they keep digging him up and reburying 304 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: him and stuff. It's a Alfred Hitchcock comedy. They should 305 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: do a Weekend in Bernie's remake with Bernie Sanders. What 306 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: do you think, Well, Bertie, Bertie. Bernie's a lot like 307 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: mel Brooks, but he's not nearly as funny. But it's 308 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: the meaning of life in mel Brooks' spaceballs. It's mouchandizing. 309 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: But he plays all ends of the fiddle. He's great 310 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: for the veterans, he's great there. But he takes money 311 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: from Monsanto and he takes things. And he killed seven 312 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Philly pitchers. You know, you can look it up, 313 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: all in their fifties. Oh man, Oh God, Tug McGraw, Ken, 314 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: bretn Rial, Cormier, Vukovich, all these guys, Catchers, Pitchers, Gary Carter, 315 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: they all died from I believe, the fumes that come 316 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: off of astro jerky, you know. And so he takes 317 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: money from everybody, you know what I'm saying. And that's 318 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: what's wrong with our When I ran for President eighty 319 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: eight on the Rhinoceros ticket against Bill Clinton, I only 320 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: accepted a quarter because it's a two bid office. Who 321 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: would want to run? Well, you got to get someone 322 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: out there that does has his hands in his own pockets. 323 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: That's what it is. And look at our look at 324 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 1: our freaking our Supreme Court now allowing, you know, dropping 325 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: a law in New York after all these people got 326 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: killed in Buffalo and stuff, instead of really ratcheting down 327 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: the laws on guns. The trouble is there's too many 328 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: crazies out there and they're loaded. And today, the day 329 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: we're recording this, the official you know, announcement on Roe 330 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: versus Wade came out as well. Oh I didn't know that, 331 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: we knew it was going to happen. I knew well. 332 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: I got into a fight with a guy and a 333 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: dodge he had. He had a flag on it and 334 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: it said let's go Brandon, and I slowed down and 335 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: flipped him off, and he got mad in his car. 336 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: But he doesn't realize Brandon is my grandson, the fucking pedophile. 337 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: So that's see. I get in fights just by driving 338 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: down the highway. If I see something bad, if I 339 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: get into it, I say something. You know, it's amazing. 340 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm still a lot. But you know, so I was 341 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: talking though about how the roads are all packed, right, 342 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: there's traffic, and all we hear about is employers can't 343 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: find people to take jobs where I sound like Jerry Seinfeld. 344 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: Where are all these people going? They're going to Costco. 345 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: I mean they're going to Walmart, you know. There's They 346 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: don't realize that all these giant things Home Depot put 347 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: away the little man. They put away the small entrepreneurial 348 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: spirit of America, and they've fallen into this trap that's 349 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: gonna kill him in the long run. I see no 350 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: hope for this planet if sea levels rising at the 351 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: rate that it is doing, you know, and these giant 352 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: droughts are happening in the West. Of course, you get 353 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 1: them about every thousand years. But I got a feeling 354 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: Yellowstone's gonna blow because of the movie by Woody Harrelson 355 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: twenty twelve. They're playing it way too much. It's Hollywood's 356 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: way of saying we're fun, right, and they know how 357 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: to saying. You know what, shown artificial intelligence. You know, 358 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: I didn't believe in artificial intelligence until Star Wars came 359 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: out and I realized the droids are a lot smarter 360 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: than the humans. There you go, amen, Amen, show me 361 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: that place where the band's playing over here. Okay, yeah, yeah, 362 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: it's good. There's a there's a concert coming up here. 363 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,239 Speaker 1: That's good. You gotta do. I got to get back 364 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: to work too. You know, we're we're going to walk 365 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: through briefly where I first met you inside the Axis 366 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: Back factory. That's true. You look like when I walked in, 367 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: you look like you were that could have been heaven 368 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: right there. It is heaven, you know. It's there's nothing 369 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: better than being seventy five in sport in a woody. 370 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: It's beautiful, right, yeah, there's nothing better, you know. I 371 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: tell Louis the other day. He says, we got to 372 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: find a new wood to use. And his name's Louis Ladu. 373 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: I said, I said, well, I said, there's French oak 374 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: that's in the oat barrels. And he goes. I said, 375 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: he says, you've been lifting, You lift anything heavy like that? 376 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: He says, only when I take a leak, all right, 377 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: Louis la dou. Of course it's got to be French. 378 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: So what is this piece come in here? Huh? This 379 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: is it? Boneheads? As I turned it in, this is 380 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 1: going to be this is going to get torn down. 381 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: This will be a park, This will be a beautiful 382 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: area in Fall River. You know. The key is these 383 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: old mill towns will become places and destinations to go. 384 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: We've got to be more walking, more ambulatory, more fresh air. 385 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: And you like walking. I walk all the time. Yeah, 386 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: you'd like it. What were your favorite places in Boston 387 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: to walk when you were from the Red Sox to 388 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: the Elliott Lounge? Yeah, there you go. Yeah, I walk 389 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: to the Elliot Lounge all the time. I used to 390 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: run six miles every day from Belmont, my duplex in Belmont, 391 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: all the way or along the Charles River, go through 392 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: bu come in and pitch and go nine innings. I 393 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: had seventy three complete games in three years. It's amazing. 394 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: Think about that, now, think about that now? Right? Yeah, 395 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: what are the pitches you're throwing? Strikes? Just work fast, 396 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:37,239 Speaker 1: throw strikes, change speed, change speed, throw strikes, change the 397 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: ale of elevation on the hitter, and control the tempo 398 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: of the game. That's the key. The key is throwing 399 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: strikes and having a lot of young, great outfielders and infielders, 400 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: and they know every pitch I throw is going to 401 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: be put in play, so they're ready. That's the key. 402 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: I can't believe Frank Zapp is going to be here. 403 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm missing. You know, Frank Zappi is banned right here. Wow, 404 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: you know you crushed me uh at the low Spinner's 405 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: Park when you threw some batting practice to a bunch 406 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: of us. Yeah, killed me. He just destroyed me. Really, 407 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: I thought, I you know, I think I could hit something, 408 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: you know, and you just had me flummixed. Man, I flummix. 409 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: Everybody's completely flummixed. Evil Louis. When he tells the story 410 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: about me pitching you know to him, he said he'd 411 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: never seen anybody command I don't have really good stuff. 412 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: You're looking for something? Yeah, waiting my time. But I'm 413 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: a huge fan. I saw your documentary. Can I get 414 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: a quick picture with you? Are you kid? Awesome? I 415 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: can't believe when you walked back before I was getting 416 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: a haircut the bomb shop and I said, no fucking way. 417 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: What's your name, Adam? We're doing a podcast. This is good, right, 418 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: You're part of it. That's okay, you won't believe it. 419 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: So I'm wearing my yellow savanna banana outfit, yeah you know, 420 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: like that, and people are pulling off the road and 421 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: running across four lanes of traffic. Yeah, and I'm going 422 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 1: I just gotta stop or I'm gonna have a lot 423 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: of young kids guild. Honestly, my favorite pot about the 424 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: documentary was it was very like, like, you know, I 425 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: have a lot of anxieties, so that it's very calming 426 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: to me, especially when when you're working out with the 427 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: rock and stuff like that in Cuba. That was so 428 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: like all day like and I and I love baseball 429 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: and obviously rocks and everything. Well good, yeah, I just 430 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: took a walk with him, and my wife isn't gonna 431 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: believe this. Thank you, sir, nice haircut. Thank you. And 432 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: what's your name? My name is buzz Night. Nice to 433 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: me taking a walk. You know what, Here you go, 434 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 1: I'll do a little plug. Yeah, here you go. There's 435 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: the podcast. Awesome, so I can listen to it eventually, 436 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: Thank you. It takes a little while. Wow, I'm blowing 437 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: away right now. I'm playing the Night in Rhode Island. Yeah, Smithfield. Yeah, 438 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: just against the cop, Yeah, police department. Don't worry. I'll 439 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: be around you bet. Oh that's awesome. So that you 440 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: love that when that happens, that happens all the time, right, 441 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: happened all the time, more so now than every before. 442 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: The best is when I got pulled over by a 443 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: state trooper about three years ago at the beginning of COVID. 444 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm out in the fast lane in the buick heading south. 445 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: Traffic's coming in during the commute in this state. He 446 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: comes barreling out off the exit over there at Andrews 447 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: or wherever, something like that. And he comes out and 448 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: I can see him moving left towards me, so I 449 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: slow down. I let him have my spot in the lane, 450 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: and I move right and following his footsteps and pass 451 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: him and go up in the slow lane all the 452 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: way up. Next thing you know, he turns his light on. 453 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: He comes after me. He pulls me over, and he goes, sir, 454 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: you're a very aggressive driver. I said, I saw you 455 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: all the way, and how else do you win ninety 456 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: four fucking games in this town? I said, you came 457 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: out here and got stuck, and I fucking went there 458 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: because I could see the goddamn road. And do you 459 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: see the fucking MP in the back of my car. 460 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: Don't ever pull over an MP. I'm the guy who 461 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: puts you in fucking jail. And that was he. You know, 462 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: I kind of went a little too far, But fucking 463 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: did you ever think in your life, you would live 464 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: to see marijuana legal and gambling legal. No, no, fucking way, 465 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: no way, no. What happened to all my bookie friends? 466 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: You know, they were great guys. You know they'd always 467 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: asked me. I used to get a call up all 468 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: the time from bookies asking me how I feel the 469 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: day before I pitch, and I'd be shit facing everything else. 470 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: I oh, I fucking feel great. And the cannabis part, 471 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: yeah exactly, I said shit. I threw some of my 472 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: best games on weed. You know. I beat Seattle one 473 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: time and didn't throw the ball over fifty five miles 474 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: an hour. Who was the toughest out? Bill Mattlock, little short, 475 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: pudgy guy from Texas Rangers, and then he was with 476 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Pirates. He won the National Batting Championship four years 477 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: in a row. That was late in my career. Early 478 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: in my career was Tony Oliva. Oliva wore me out. Yeah, 479 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: hit two home runs off me in one game and 480 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: none of them were strikes. Really, Yeah, found out the 481 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: only way to get him out Throw him a fastball 482 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: right down the middle. You know, hit a four hundred 483 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: feet to center, but it won't go out. I remember 484 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: he had that thing he used to do that way 485 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: he sort of flung the bat right, Oh, his beautiful 486 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: swing and he had those of the batting gloves too. 487 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: Yoga clothes. Yeah, let to go into a yoga class 488 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: till today makes perfect sense after this, all right, So 489 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: we're walking into the pro Bat Baseball bat factory Louis le'deux. 490 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: Access Sports used to be in Na Kona, but we're back. 491 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: This is where it all, where it all began, right, 492 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: So tell me about the factory. It's this. Look at 493 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: these old wood. This is spelted maple, and I sanded 494 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: it down really soft there, And I told him, if 495 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: you make spelted maple bass, you can sell those for 496 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: two hundred bucks to anybody. Oh, we're doing a podcast 497 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: walking down the street. Did you know that buzz night bus? 498 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: All right, I'm sorry what you did, Scott Russell. Scott's 499 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: nice to meet you. We're on the Taking a Walk podcast. 500 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, I love a right. Nice to 501 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: meet you, Hi peg, Sorry, nice to meet you. This 502 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: is our book. That's our next to last okay, and 503 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: then that look at these are the ones I picked 504 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: last time. He never got him back to his room. 505 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: I got to give him ship for that. So that's 506 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: spelt and maple, and these are all palates that the 507 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: wood comes in on and we'd break them down and 508 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: we make tables at them. So we use everything. Nothing 509 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: leaves here except maybe sawdust, you know, and that uses 510 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: that for bedding for chickens and cows. But the rest 511 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: of us totally organic. Look at this, so look the 512 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: scene in the air has how many how many bats 513 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: ready to be shipped out? Probably just thousands right those 514 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: over here, No, we're they're all over the place. These 515 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: are camps. They come in, yeah, eight cans, but we 516 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: get them. When they're all wropped up, we get them. 517 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: But this turns out and we can find a really 518 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: good bat in here. You know. We have all different types. 519 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: Was it big poppy picking bats from here? We were 520 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: Nakona he swung in Nakota bat that we made. Yeah, 521 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: I've got one, I think in the truck. But if 522 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: you look over there, that's all yellow birch on that 523 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: side that's on there. The smell is outstanding. Come over here, Wow, 524 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: this is the the CC copier that turns them. That 525 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: thing right there goes in. This is a piece of ash. Yeah, 526 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: it's the hardest thing to find in New England. Now 527 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: is a good piece of ash. I knew what was 528 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: happening there, ash Bro, I knew what was happening. You 529 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: might think I looked dub no, no, no, its palette 530 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: that's maple. Yeah. Sometimes they got cherry in here that 531 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: looks like maple. I said, your palette wood is Martius. 532 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: Every piece of palette wood is a table. We got 533 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: to get more people working and my son's turn be 534 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: my son's thanks to make it. This is beautiful here, 535 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: this is amazing. We had a good goal. This is 536 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: the microphone. Then it's okay, everything's good. Well, we had 537 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: a great walk. Bill. I'm going to leave you to 538 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: important tasks at hand. What's on your agenda the rest 539 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: of the day. I have to go pitch against the 540 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: cops in Smithfield, Rhode Island. I have to drive all 541 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: the way home, get home at one in the morning. 542 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: You know. I got to pick pe andies when I 543 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: get home and put them in a vase for my 544 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: wife because they're starting to droop. And then tomorrow I 545 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: get up early and I go and have three cups 546 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: of coffee to sodium neprox and I leave, and then 547 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: I go pitch against the number one team in the state, Randolph, 548 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: and if I win, I'm going to have a beer. 549 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: And if I lose, I'm gonna have a beer. And 550 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: then the next morning I'll be on the road. I'm 551 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: gonna drive seven hundred miles to Elkhart, Indiana, where they 552 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: make winnebagos, and then I'm going to sleep on the 553 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: side of the road for about four hours and then 554 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: end up in Okajobi in the Lake area of Iowa, 555 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: pitching on Tuesday. The road Warrior Bill Lee, thank you 556 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: thanks for taking a walk. This has been so much fun. 557 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: I think I hurt myself a couple of times. No, 558 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: you do, can laugh, you can laugh. No, I'll tell 559 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: you this. Send me a copy of that. Send it 560 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: to all my kids. 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