1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Hi in Hello. Make sure you check out the new 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: episode of the Dave damage At Football Program. I Taylor 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: and Ross Tucker are joining to talk about who the 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: second best team in the NFL is Andre Johnson? What's 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: the make of this? Jamie Collins straight? Who the best 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: teams the worst teams are at the halfway point in 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: the season. Oh so much to kid It's about and 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: great stories, but I get ros. Check it out iTunes 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: or NFL dot com Slash Podcast. And now Move the 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. What's up everybody? DJ? 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: Bucky here Moved the Sticks, looking back at Week eight 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: of the NFL season. Also touching a little bit on 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: a interesting weekend of college football, and gonna update our 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: bad Body Good player list. We have some new recommendations 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: from you guys on Twitter that we will take before 16 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: our our court here and see if we affirm any 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,319 Speaker 1: of these decisions. Bucky, how you doing man? I'm doing great, man, 18 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: great football weekend, my uh college bits, but my college 19 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: picks were the same as yours, and the NFL picks 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: were worse. You did good on the NFL this last week. 21 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: I didn't I missed something and I need, I need 22 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: to pick it up. I look at what happened last week, 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: but a couple of things I want to get into. 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: And you look at the scores from last week's game. 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, perfectly honest with that. Did 26 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: not watch any of the Vikings BEARSS game, Halloween trick 27 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: or treating going on, watching good games, see it. I 28 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: was shocked when I saw I ended up. I got 29 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: in this morning and I watched the tape. Uh, some 30 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: of the tape of the Vikings defense. Wanted to see 31 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: what they were sorry of the Bears defense. I want 32 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: to see what they were doing. Man Leonard Floyd about damn. 33 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: He came on, came on, made an impact. I didn't 34 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: you know. I'm I'll be honest. I wasn't a huge 35 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd fan in the draft because I wondered if 36 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: he would be able to have some production off the edge. 37 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: He kind of reminded me a little bit of Barcades 38 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: mingo and maybe I was scared off by, uh the 39 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: frame and how light he was. Would he be effective? 40 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: But he's found a way to make himself a pretty 41 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: good pass for rush you. He's coming on like game 42 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: busses and because they were able to get a rush 43 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: with four, they would do a good job in coverage. Um, 44 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, I, I know the Bears won of six 45 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: quins the games, but you know, like I was impressed 46 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: with how they played. But I'm gonna have to go 47 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: to on the other side of the ball because this 48 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: is the guy that I slept on the entire draft process, 49 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: Jordan Howard. I just I wasn't and I wasn't a 50 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: huge fan. He wasn't a huge fan. Didn't know much 51 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: about him. Um obviously like he kind of like a 52 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: one year wonder playing behind Tevin Coleman. But he has 53 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: been better over from u AB, had some production over there. 54 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: But I just didn't I think he had a ton 55 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: of juice. But he's man, he looks he looks great. 56 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: You know, one cud of runner, very physical running in 57 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: between the tackles, puts his foot in the ground and 58 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: it's very very decisive. Uh finishes runs with power and physicality. 59 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: Doesn't have necessarily the long speed. But for the Bears 60 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: and for Foxy, having known fox when we're together at Carolina, 61 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: he had you know, we had Stephen Davis and Stephen 62 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: Davis didn't necessarily have the juice, but he was a physical, 63 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: rugged runner and you can kind of lather them up 64 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: give him carries. And with Jordan Howard, I'm beginning to 65 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: see them find and identity because they can run the ball. 66 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's a coincidence because they were 67 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: able to run the ball successfully. Jay Cutler looked like 68 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: a real dude, right. A couple of the games we 69 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: want to get to Eagles, Cowboys, Packers, Falcons, but before 70 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: we do that, Patriots end up beating the Bills. Not 71 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: a surprise. We both predicted that saw that one coming. However, 72 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: what's surprised to see a trade that we had to 73 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: go down with Jamie Collins? Were you shocked by that one? 74 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: I am shocked by that. I'm always surprised when good 75 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: players are let go. And I know there's been some 76 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: scud about about Jamie Collins, but you know, prior to 77 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: this trade, all we heard about was how he's kind 78 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: of like the new prototype the linebacker position, guy that 79 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: can lie and play inside, can play outside. We saw 80 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: how valuable he was to the team last year doing 81 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: the playoff run, his ability to come off the edge, 82 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: cover people down the field. Um, you just can't find 83 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: guys like that. And so when you have a hybrid player, 84 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: guy that can do so many things, it's hard for 85 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: me to see or justify why you want to let 86 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: him go outside of the fact that he was in 87 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 1: the last year his deal, that he wanted big time money. Yeah, 88 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: that's that seems to be part of it. I know 89 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: Michael Lombardi, who we both know well, has kind of 90 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: gone in on his play in terms of, you know, 91 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: not playing within the system and uh, and given great effort. 92 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: And it was interesting when I watched the one of 93 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: the plays that that Michael's referencing was the second play 94 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: of the game, And so I went back and watched 95 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: the tape, watched the entire game to see what Jamie 96 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: Collins was doing in that game against Buffalo, and he 97 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: was right on that second play. He ends up kind 98 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: of shooting a gap, they bounced, They bounced the run 99 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: for twenty eight yards and uh, and his bad the 100 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: rest of the game. When I watched it, Buck, I 101 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: didn't see. I mean, they scored a touchdown where they 102 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: were down about the two yard line, and uh, he's 103 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: kind of got two gaps he's responsible for. He comes off, 104 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: hits the guy at the one and kind of just 105 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: powers through him to score a touchdown. I think with 106 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: gillis Lee that the power through him, but uh, I 107 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: don't really put that on him. And then I saw 108 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: him with a couple of pressures, had a couple of pressures, 109 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: a couple of quarterback hits, so him covering looked athletic, 110 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: so to me, I don't know. I looked redtween the 111 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: lines here. I thought, okay, maybe this is an attitude 112 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: issue I mean going on behind doors, because let me 113 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: let me just pose this to you. So it was 114 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: for a two thousand eighteen pick. So when you think 115 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: about this two years, well, actually, so it's a it's 116 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: a jump in here. It's for the competent story third 117 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: round pick at seventeen. It's it was announced as a 118 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: two two thousand and eighteen fourth round pick. But once 119 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: the Browns get that third round competcentri pick, it will 120 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: go to that from Alex mac leaving for I believe 121 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: the Falcons. Ok here, they'll get that third round pick 122 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: for seventeen, so they'll no two pick. Okay, well that 123 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: makes still I'm go ahead and make my I mean, 124 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: you're talking about a third round pick, and so I 125 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: mean they I want to say Jamie cons was a 126 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: second round He was a guy who came from Old Miss, 127 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: we play some safety. They kind of moved him around 128 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: the lineback Southern Um he comes in and he really 129 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: was a really big contributor for them. And I just 130 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: don't like to let good players leave the building. And 131 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: so I know they talked about his freelance ability, but 132 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: this is also a team that had did Junior say yeah, 133 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: the late Junior say, I was known to freelance a 134 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: little bit, and so there's some liberties that people have 135 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: taken with that defense. Maybe just a situation where he 136 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick didn't get along and they just wanted 137 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: to part ways. But I certainly don't believe that this 138 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: trade made the Patriots better. And I think he could 139 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: be one of those trades that we look back in 140 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: the postseason where he may have come back to Harmon 141 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: because the guys that they brought over, the Calvin noise 142 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: and those other guys, they haven't played at the level 143 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: that we've seen Jamie Collins play. And here's a couple 144 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: points I want to make. So this is what I 145 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: was originally getting ready to say here is that if 146 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: you're the Patriots, you hold onto Jamie Collins for the 147 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: rest of the season and the season by the way 148 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: which you have super Bowl aspiration, he helps you this year, 149 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: maybe maybe he makes the play get your super Bowl. 150 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: Then you don't resign him. He walks. The Patriots are 151 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: not active and free agency, they're gonna get a fantastic 152 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: COMPI it's gonna be a third or fourth round pick 153 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna end up getting for him. So they're gonna 154 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: still get him for this year in the playoff run, 155 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: and they're still gonna get this similar value pick. Now. 156 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: Difference being the Browns is gonna be the first pick, 157 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, if it's a comp pick, No, it's still 158 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: gonna be at the bottom of the third round. So 159 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: that's it. You're getting it now versus versus a year later. 160 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: That that's the only difference there. And the other thing 161 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: at the point that I was thinking of was Eric Mangini, Okay, 162 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick disciple, what was the biggest knock on him 163 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: with the Browns. I remember, look, I I got let go, 164 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: so I wasn't there when he was there, but in 165 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: talking to people, it was he's gotten rid of all. 166 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: He doesn't want the athletes. He wants a bunch of robots, 167 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of you know, smart robots he 168 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: can plug in there that can run his defense. We'll 169 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: guess what, when you don't have Tom Brady, you don't 170 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: have Rob Gronkowski. A bunch of smart robots doesn't work. 171 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: It didn't work there. And so this is a situation 172 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: where I'm going, Man, are they good enough defensively? They 173 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: just throw away an athlete like this, That's a head 174 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: scratcher to me. I don't think so. I don't think 175 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: they're good enough from a personnel standpoint to be able 176 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: to throw away a talented player, because I believe that 177 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: he would probably raided as a blue player in most 178 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: systems in terms of his ability to make contribution, his 179 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: ability to be a probably a top ten player at 180 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: his position. I think he falls in that realm. And 181 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: so when you have a blue player, you just don't 182 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: like to give those away. Yes, it can be masked 183 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: and overshadow by the work that offense is doing. The 184 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: offense can play keepaway and not exposed the defense to 185 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities or reps. But at some point 186 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: when you get into the playoffs, you have to be 187 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: able to play solid defense. And without Jamie Collins, I 188 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: wonder can they go toe to toe with some of 189 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: the heavyweight teams that they may face in the FC. 190 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: I know we got beat up in coverage a little 191 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: bit in the playoff game. I want to say against 192 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: Denver last year it was it Owen Daniels that got 193 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: a little bit. A little touchdowns by Owen Daniels zero 194 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: touchdowns turing the regular season. Yeah again though, but now 195 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: it sounds like a Patriots fan. Yeah, there you go. 196 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: But I mean his his ability when you watch him 197 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: plays inside, he plays outside. They move them all around, 198 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: you know. I don't know. It seemed like it's just 199 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,599 Speaker 1: maybe they feel like that because in cal Vannoy, the 200 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: guy they traded for last week from the Detroit Lions, 201 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: he hasn't been he did some of that stuff. Not 202 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: not the level of Jamie Collins, no question. Um, So 203 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: I want to get through through that. Maybe we'll see 204 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: before the end of the day we might have a 205 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: couple more trades come down, but as of right now 206 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: we're airing this podcast, that's that's pretty much. And we 207 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: had a trade. Think John and Banks got trade. I 208 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: don't think anybody's too fired up about that. Packers. Let's 209 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: go Packers Falcons real quick, Bucky, what did you what 210 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: you see in that one? Aaron Rodgers had a phenomenal game. 211 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: Line up those the receiver in the backfield, Davante Adams 212 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: caught about nine balls in this game. But the Falcons 213 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: still found a way to win. Falcons found a way 214 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: to get it done. But we'll focus on the Packers first. 215 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: And what I like about the Packers is they're finally 216 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: playing their young guys at wide receiver. So much of 217 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: their issues early in the season I felt like was 218 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: a tribute to the fact that they weren't using the 219 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: juice that they had within the lineup, young guys, Trevor 220 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: Davison coming over being able to be a contribute not 221 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: only his returner but as a receiver. Uh, Jeronimo Allison 222 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: had opportunity to play because Tom Montgomery and Run the 223 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: Cob didn't play. Um, we've seen some of those other 224 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: young guys come in. They made contributions. So now when 225 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: you get round the Cob back, you put Tom Montgomery 226 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: back in there. Jordy Nelson continues to get healthy, they 227 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: can try out what they called their Big five package, 228 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: which is when they put five receivers on the field, 229 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: they may have one of those guys going to the backfield. 230 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: They go out of no huddle tempo, and then they 231 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: keep you from matching up with a personnel. Aaron Rodgers 232 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: beginning to look more like Aaron Rodgers, and part of 233 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: it is because they're young guys are getting on the field. 234 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: I took some heat on Twitter, people like, oh, you're 235 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: not saying what's wrong with Aaron Rodgers now? And I'm like, 236 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: did you watch when we talked about him, because what 237 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: we clearly stated was his issues were correctable. That because 238 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: he's playing well now doesn't mass the fact he was 239 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: not playing well earlier this season. He's cleaned some things up, 240 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: but we have to call it a called spade to spade. 241 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: He wasn't playing very well earlier in this season, and 242 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: we talked about he wasn't playing well, but also the 243 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: receivers weren't helping him by uncovering. We've seen the last 244 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: couple of weeks when they've gone to the big five package, 245 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: because they went to the Big five package a little 246 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: more first against Dallas, then in the game prior toy 247 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: I wanna say in Chicago, and now we've seen them 248 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: use more receivers, more juice on the field, more athleticism, 249 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: more guys that can get open. Consequently, Aaron Rodgers able 250 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: to scramble a little more and make big plays, which 251 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: have always been kind of like the backbone of dead offense. UM. 252 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: One of the things when we switch over to the 253 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: to the other side there with the with the falcons 254 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: is you never, you never. This is why you never 255 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: claim victory or defeat on a player until a couple 256 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: of years. In last year, Vick Beasley didn't do anything, 257 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: had another sack, was a little bit of a garbage 258 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: sack in this game. But as of right now Buck 259 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: seven and a half. Yeah, he's third in the league. 260 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: I believe in sacks. UM. So it got me to thinking, 261 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: we've talked about this before, something Ozzy believed in with 262 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: the Ravens with when I was there to talk about 263 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: production mattering when it comes to sacks in college and 264 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: Dion Jordan is a is a great example. Somebody didn't 265 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: have sack production. You protect him to have it and 266 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: never did. Obviously some off the field issues there as well, 267 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: But so I just got thinking. I went through and 268 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: as the stats stand right now, went through the top 269 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: twelve in sacks, and I went through their college production 270 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: overall career sacks, and then the last two years, so 271 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: in case they weren't really involved would get a lot 272 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: of playtime their last two years of college football, how 273 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: many sacks they got. So it's pretty interesting when we 274 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: rip through these all. Right, Lorenzo Alexander currently leading the 275 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: league in sacks, somebody who had never had something like, 276 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: never more than like four and a half sacks, I 277 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: don't think throughout it in his NFL career, in a 278 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: long NFL career, so he's been more of both of 279 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: his career. He's he's an exception because I think he 280 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: had four and a half sacks he's did not show up. 281 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: I had to do some digging on his college stats, 282 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: but I believe it was four and a half over 283 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: a four year career at Cal his last two years 284 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: one and a half and one. So he's the he's 285 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: the outlier. Von Miller thirty three sacks in his career 286 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: his last two years seventeen and then ten and a half. 287 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: Um and keep an eye on how many of these 288 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: guys have at least one double digit sack year. Cliff 289 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: Avril a little bit lower, number twelve and a half 290 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 1: and that just that two years there, six and then 291 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: six and a half, so he's a little bit lower. 292 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: But now we go. Vick Beasley thirty sacks in his 293 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: career thirteen and nine his last two years d Ford 294 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: twenty seven and a half, six and a half, but 295 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: then fourteen his last year Carrigan thirty three and a half, 296 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: thirteen and then twelve and a half, so numbers are great. 297 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: Iraqpo twenty three, five and a half but then eleven 298 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: and a half, so goes over ten his last year there. 299 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: Marcus Golden a little bit lower, but you gotta remember 300 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: all those defensive lineman they had their eight up, some 301 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: of those. So he had fourteen and a half over 302 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: his career sixteen and a half and then eight. Um 303 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: Trent Murphy, I'd forgotten about this. He's having a good 304 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: year so far out of Stanford thirty two and a 305 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: half sacks ten and then fifteen fifteen sackses last year 306 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: at Stanford. H Eric Walden thirty one and a half, 307 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: eleven and a half, eleven and a half and then 308 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: his last year he had too. I don't know if 309 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: he was injured or what they're Leonard Williams is an 310 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: interior player at USC had the high ankle sprain, but 311 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: he ended up with twenty sacks over his career, which 312 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,599 Speaker 1: is a pretty good total. Five and then seven I 313 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: think believe he had eight is a freshman. Willie Young 314 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: twenty six and a half and then eight. So most 315 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: of them have at least one double digit year and 316 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: if not a double digit year, they're in that seven 317 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: eight range. The production does matter when you're evaluating pass rushers. 318 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: Production matters when you're evaluating pass rushing because at the 319 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: end of the day, the guys that can get home. 320 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: There's a skill to getting the quarterback on the ground, 321 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: and so you want to have guys that are very, 322 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,599 Speaker 1: very productive that this is something you obviously worked on. 323 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: The Ozzie is something that I heard Ozzy talked about before, 324 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: so I always paid close attention to it. So even 325 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: years ago when we would have those debates that we 326 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: were talking about Big beas some of the other guys. 327 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: Anthony Barr was another guy that we had talked about. UM, 328 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: the sack production in college to me would would stand 329 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: out and I would be more prone to hang on 330 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: those guys because if they had done it back to 331 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: back years and multiple years, I believe that they could 332 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: replicate it, just like we're seeing with Joey Bosa. Joey Bosa, 333 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: like he may not be the most explosive athlete, but 334 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: he has a knack for getting there, and so there's 335 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: something to that. And I think at that position in particular, 336 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: we have to play close attention to production. One other 337 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: thing that stands out to me, and we'll talk. We 338 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: use Big Big Beasley as we got to talk about it. 339 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: I studied Big Beasley last week. Is part of my 340 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: notebook that are right on Fridays, and one of the 341 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: things that helped Big Big Beasley this year kind of 342 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: find his game. One day, moved him to linebacker so 343 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: they could move them around a little bit, put them 344 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: on the open side, put him over to tide in 345 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: and create some favorable matchups. The other we're seeing this 346 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: a lot. People are moving their best pass for us 347 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: to left defensive so they can work against the right tackle. 348 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: On offense. The right tackle is normally the inferior of 349 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: the past protectors on the edges, and so now you 350 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: have a guy that can throw a fastball and a 351 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: guy that can't hit a fastball. And so Vic Beasley 352 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: has benefited from that. We saw the sack that he 353 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: got um to to steal the game one against San 354 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: Diego and then again Um. He has been able to 355 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: get these sacks because he's working against the inferior talent 356 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: on this side, no question, that's the great point there book. 357 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: Let's go real quick here. What we saw from Eagles 358 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: Cowboys A great game. I was wildly entertaining game. My 359 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,119 Speaker 1: one point that I would make from a scouting standpoint, 360 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: the biggest criticism of the Eagles coming out of this game. 361 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: They didn't throw the ball down the field, dancing dunk. 362 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: He was averaging five yards, you know, throw and it 363 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: was and it was. Look when you're watching it, it it 364 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: looks weird because they never attacked down the field. They 365 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: absolutely should have taken a couple of shots. They didn't 366 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: do it. But I just from an ex standpoint, when 367 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: you go back and watch their tape once Lane Johnson 368 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: left the lineup and you saw that they could not 369 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: block Ryank here again, they can't protect them. They can't 370 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: protect in order to take shots down the field, you 371 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: have to be able to protect. So I think they 372 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: felt like that was their best way to move the 373 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: football in this game, and they were pretty effective moving 374 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: it up and down. If if if Wenel Smallwood doesn't fumble, 375 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: a lot of ifs and butts, you know, all that 376 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But um, to me, I thought, yeah, 377 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: I should have taken some shots. But I understand why 378 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: they didn't. I think so many people were so baffled 379 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: by that. I thought it was pretty easy to understand. Well, 380 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty easy to understand when you talk 381 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: about their own issues as it relates to their personnel. 382 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: Offensive tackle right tackle is an issue, so you don't 383 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: want to necessarily expose Carson Wins to the licks. But 384 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: also the coverage on the other end kind of dictates 385 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: whether you can take shots. A lot those who know 386 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: Rod mary Nelly understands that he's a Tampa two disciple. 387 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: He believes in bending, but don't breaking. They're not going 388 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: to allow the ball really to fly over their head. 389 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys have been very, very good on defense 390 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: because they've been simple and allow. They got to play fast. 391 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: They can get a single high safety looks on early 392 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: now's played some cover three some cover one which is 393 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: man to man free uh free safety in the middle, 394 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: play bump and run on the outside. The Eagles don't 395 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: have receivers that can necessarily escape dad. Secondly, when they 396 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: get you in long yet the situation, they're gonna play 397 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: cover too, they're gonna fortunate take the check. Now, Carson 398 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: Wentz was smart enough not to challenge the coverage to 399 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: take the Dincon duck and allow those guys to uncover. So, yes, 400 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: you would like to see more shots, but the defense 401 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: and the protection didn't allow him to take shots down 402 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: the field. I think you'll look for one adjustment for 403 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: the Eagles to make going forward. They've got to get 404 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: Urts down the seam. He's plenty capable of making, giving 405 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: them some chunk plays down the middle of the field. 406 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: When you see those especially that too high look you're 407 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,239 Speaker 1: talking about Buck, you get a tight end, let him 408 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: work over that middle linebacker. That should be an advantage, 409 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: a matchup advantage for the Eagles. They haven't cast that in. 410 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: We flip it over to the Cowboys on the offensive 411 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: side of the ball. I wanted to see how this 412 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: Eagle's front would go up against this Cowboys offensive line. 413 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: I think the the Eagles made some plays up front. 414 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: I thought Brandon Graham Doug Free matchup. We talked about 415 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: favorite Eagles, but I thought over the long haul, over 416 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: the course of the game, you get into the third, 417 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: you get late into the fourth quarter, those big guys 418 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: keep laying it on you. It it plays, it plays 419 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: a role. I thought they wore them down and the 420 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: Cowboys front ended up getting the better of them. Yeah. 421 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: I think they wear him down, and that's what Dallas 422 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: has to do. They got to hit you with the jab, 423 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: they have to lean on. You'd have to make it 424 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: a fifteen round fight. And if they take it to 425 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: the distance, they're gonna win on the cars because they're 426 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: bigger and more physical than most teams. And when you 427 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: have a Zeke Elliott who is really slowed down in 428 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: terms of letting the game come to him, reading the 429 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: reason at the point of attack and being able to 430 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: take the yard is just available while also running with 431 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: the power and physicality that we like. Dallas is a 432 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: tough matchup because they make you kind of play in 433 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 1: the phone booth, and a lot of teams don't have 434 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: the personnel on defense to kind of hold up against 435 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: that attack. And I thought, Dak you talked We've talked 436 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: to him about the college guys about Shaun Watson previously. 437 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: You know, when he's getting those clutch moments, whatever issues 438 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: he has, they seem to kind of just drift away. 439 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott his credit the same thing. When when they 440 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: need a throw, when they need to drive, he just slow. 441 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: He has that ability to slow everything down. And I 442 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: think that's the skill. And we will continue to talk 443 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: about Deshaun Watson, particularly especially if he declares for the draft. 444 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: That is the one trait that you can always say 445 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: about Deshaun Watson. He understands how to step his game 446 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: up in those critical moments. With Dak Prescott, we're seeing 447 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: that too. He was all for most of the game. 448 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: He missed a lot of throws. It wasn't his best performance, 449 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 1: but when they needed it, they needed a late stages 450 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: of the fourth court in overtime, he delivered. And I 451 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: think that matters more than some of the mechanics and 452 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: some of the misthrows that he had early in the game, 453 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: the fact that when called upon and they needed place, 454 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: he was able to deliver those plays. All right, no question, 455 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: I know we're a little bit crunched on time today, Buck, 456 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: I want to before we get to the college stuff, 457 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: here are you know? We've had some uh, we've had 458 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: some requests for additions to our all bad body, good 459 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: player team. And for those who don't know, we've been 460 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: doing this for a couple episodes now and scouting you 461 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: use the phrase bad body, good player. Might not look 462 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: the part, maybe a little sloppy, little undersize, well oversize 463 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: doesn't look right. But he's a really good football player. 464 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: So we've compiled a team. We've got some guys. We've 465 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: got a good chunk of our lineup. We're in need though, 466 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: of some guys on the defensive side of the ball, 467 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: particularly linebackers and secondary. I know we had some nominations 468 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: from everybody on Twitter, or do you have any of 469 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: those for us? Yes? So on the defensive side to 470 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: linebacker or three linebackers that people suggested, Uh perfect, vont 471 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: is perfect, Bucky, that seems like brainer. Is that a 472 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: pencil for us or pen All right, Vontes perfect has 473 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: got a spot. He's a linebacker. I'm putting him in 474 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: right now. We got Telvin Smith, Skinny, I know I'm 475 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: not gonna go. He's got a safety body. I'm not 476 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: gonna say bad body. I'm saying I vote no, Yeah, 477 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think he go, I don't think 478 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: about it. These are normally need to dumpy guys. What 479 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: else we got? And then the other linebacker Man Ta Teo. Oh, 480 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: I think that's an intriguing one. Man t Tao is 481 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: a pencil. He's pencil right now. I'm not willing to 482 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 1: put him in pen just yet, but I'll go all 483 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: go pencil for man tie other other defensive players, we 484 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: have some more d lineman if you yeah, Kevin will 485 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: just give me. What do we have here? So we 486 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: got Claiborne for d n Babane, Aaron Donald, Aaron Donald 487 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: though I don't think he's just a he's just a 488 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: squinched bot. Yeah, he's built different. Yeah, Brandon Maybang. Oh, 489 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: Brandon can make a dance. Yeah me, Mayne, you want 490 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: to put in back? See we had we might have 491 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: to put a vote on that one, because right now 492 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: at that we will forks in the lock. Yes, but 493 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: we've got Nick fairly, Danny Shelton and let's add me band. 494 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: We've got three guys for one spot there, so maybe 495 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: on Twitter, let us know who who should win that 496 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: one fairly. Danny Shelton, Me man, Danny Sheldon. I watched 497 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: him again today, Buck. He's playing great. You know, he 498 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: has those trades that we look for inside. I mean, 499 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: he's still not necessarily a three now player, but his 500 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: quickness is athleticism. He uses his hands really well. He 501 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: can control the stack at the point of attack. He's 502 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: playing for Wale for the brown The Browns haven't gotten 503 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: all the wins, but they've got some nice performances. Is 504 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: from New Ricky class. We had one previously. Again, we 505 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: have a lot of these in pens, some of them pencil. 506 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: One in pencil that I would like to move over 507 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: to pen. Okay, we got Durrell Reevus. Oh yeah, I 508 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: think it's I think we're gonna lock him in and 509 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: so he is in penn uh he father time is 510 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: a rough one. There any other one. We got Mike Daniels, 511 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: good big. We have a couple of lineman Justin Britt 512 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey, Gabe Jackson Jackson and and somebody throughout. There 513 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: was this kind of strange to me, Russell Wilson because 514 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: he's small quarterback, smaller, he's kind of like a small 515 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: refrigerat You know who's surprisingly just watched. When you watch him, 516 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: does not look like he has a good body? Is 517 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: is Learnamie Tunsil? You got a little bit of a 518 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: belly going on? Yeah, you know, good good eating now, Yeah, 519 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: a lot of Cuban food down there in in Miami. Um, 520 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: and we have a guard spot open. I don't know, 521 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: does he We could find a worst guard body than that, 522 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: not to be to be continued. Those him good. We 523 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: got a couple of new additions there. Oh, and then 524 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: there's a King Dunlap as well, offensive tackle only. So 525 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: King Dunlap coming out of college was unbelievably bad body. 526 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: But he's he's found the weight room. He's he's he's 527 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: transformed his body. So I'm not I'm not keeping off. Yeah, 528 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep him off. Hats off to him for 529 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: working hard. He got it. He fought his way. He 530 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: just fought his way off of bad body, good player 531 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: to now good body. Okay player, entirely different list. So 532 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: we still need safeties. We don't have anything. Yeah, so 533 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: here's what we need. We need another. We need a center. 534 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: We need to nail down the center spot. Whi shouldn't 535 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: be that hard. We should be able to find. You know, 536 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: Nick Mangold's got kind of a bad body, and it's 537 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: kind of a sloppy beard thing going on to the 538 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: whole thing is kind of sloppy, very bad beard. I'm 539 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,479 Speaker 1: gonna go pencil on Nick Mangold until I hear something better. Okay, Um, 540 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: we need another guard, We need a defensive end, we 541 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: need the linebacker, we need a corner and too safe. 542 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: What about DJ Fluker do we have him in there? 543 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: That's a that's a good nominator or Chance war mat 544 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: Chance Warmack. I would vote for over Flucker. Yeah, you know, 545 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: one of those. For guard, I'll go warmac and pencil, 546 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: warmac and pencil. Um, we need a corner and two safety, 547 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: so we gotta get some safety nominations. Yeah, safeties or 548 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: work on that, work on that. This is a working 549 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: progress and we'll continue upgrade this list as we go along. Bucky. 550 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: From the college weekend Clemson Florida State was a great game. 551 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: We both went seminoles and we both missed. Yeah, we 552 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: both took ls on that. But that's okay. I mean 553 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: sometimes you have to dare to be different. What was 554 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: really telling in that game, it was the Dalvin Cook showcase. 555 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: I think we got a chance to see all that 556 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook could be at the next level. UH terrific 557 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: inside runner Um has explosive quickness, can bounce and get 558 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: outside uh traditionally and consistently catches the ball out the back. 559 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: But we did have a big drop to probably could 560 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: have changed the outcome in the game a little bit 561 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: down the boundary. But I like what he brings to 562 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: the table um. I think he's similar to DeVante Freeman 563 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: in a way, but he's an upgrade. I think when 564 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: I did the value sation over the summer I wrote 565 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: down in my UM note book, kind of reminds me 566 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of Wark Done in terms of how 567 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: he kind of plays the game. Has some slippery um, 568 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: some slipperiness that he can get to, some looseness that 569 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: I like. He's a really good player. I think I 570 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be really really interesting following him in 571 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: this draft process. Washington end up squeaking one out over Utah. 572 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: Dante Pettis. Nice job in the punt return game there 573 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: for them. Running back had a big game too. Yeah, Yeah, 574 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: a little little back gasking is a good little player, 575 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: Um Louisville. I watched that game Lamar Jackson when he 576 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: needed to, he he dialed it up a notch too. Man, 577 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: He's got a hose man that jumps out of his hand, 578 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: big arm, dynamic athlete. The thing that to me, that 579 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: is specially about Lamar Jackson, even when I look at 580 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, Deshaun Watson is a good athlete. Lamar Jackson 581 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: is dynamite. Nice word, though, dynamite. Here's here. We're gonna 582 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: do a lot of this as we go towards the draft, 583 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: and we'll see who ends up declaring all that kind 584 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: of stuff. But I've already got a couple of guys 585 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: where it's gonna be fun to sort out. We've got Davis, 586 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: a linebacker from Florida, Davis, and then you've got Ruben 587 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: Foster at Alabama. These are two studs, now. Ruben Fos 588 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: is a grown man. When I was talking to Phil Savage, 589 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: good friend who runs a senior bowl, I worked with him. 590 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: You've known him forever. Buck and Ruben Foster, he he 591 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: went ahead and put him. When I talked to him 592 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: that day, he put him in that Patrick Willis class. 593 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: And I said no. I mean when I look at 594 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: where he, you know, go in the draft, Pat I 595 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: think went like nine ten somewhere around their top fifteen 596 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: pick uh C J. Mosley I believe was eighteen, nineteen 597 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: somewhere in there. I think Ruben Foster has got a 598 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: chance to go way up there. I think he has. 599 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: I mean he's a physical player. I mean he's a 600 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: grown man. He has a maturity and a leadership stence 601 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: in terms of how he plays. Patrick Willis do we 602 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: have where what number did he get Patrick Willis was? Uh? 603 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: Into top ten? Did he go end up going to 604 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: the top ten? Willis was eleven? He was seventeen okay, 605 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: and then keick Lely I believe was nine. Yeah, he 606 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: was in he was definitely Fletcher Cox that was There's 607 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: sometimes look, you get lucky um as a team when 608 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: you're targeting one guy he's not there and you end 609 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: up getting the other guy. He ends up being a 610 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: better player than one you were targeting. And and Philly, 611 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: the two players we had zeroed in on were keik 612 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: Ley and Fletcher Cox. You couldn't go wrong with wrong 613 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: couldn't go wrong with either one anyway. So it's gonna 614 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: be fun to kind of sort out some of these 615 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: battles with these college players. Buck, we gotta we gotta 616 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: run here. But we have a lot of video content 617 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: our mid season all Rookie team. We got videos up 618 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: for you guys to check out on YouTube. Go to 619 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: the NFL channel just pump and move the sticks on YouTube. 620 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: You'll find it. We also have a bunch of other 621 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: content you can find on the YouTube channel as well 622 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: as NFL dot com slash mts video. Be sure to 623 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: send us your submissions. We need to finish up this 624 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: bad body good player list. Buck, you you're good to go, 625 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: good to go. Last week you you brought us out 626 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: of the show, and it's such a bang up job. 627 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: I think it's your your responsibility from I don't remember. 628 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: I don't even remember what I said. Well, then do 629 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: it again. I don't I don't remember what I said. 630 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: There must have been freestyle Friday. I don't know. 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