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Speaker 1: This is the Eds with Eddie Judge and Edwin Aroyave

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Speaker 1: the husband's know best too cheese production.

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Speaker 2: How you doing Edwin?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing all right. How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great. But it's always great chatting with you.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: Always listen. We have an exciting guest today. I am

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Speaker 2: so stoked because Joe Gorga is coming on our podcast.

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Speaker 2: He is probably, in my opinion, one of the most

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Speaker 2: famous house husbands in the whole entire Real Housewife network.

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Speaker 2: The guy just has so many talents, from you know,

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Speaker 2: a construction company to author. I guess he writes books.

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Speaker 2: And the greatest thing of all is he did stand

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Speaker 2: up comedy. Can you imagine the balls to do stand

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Speaker 2: up comedy?

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Speaker 3: Just love that man. The guy is legendary. Man. You

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Speaker 3: can tell he's got great discipline too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Remember last Bravo con we went to

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Speaker 2: when we were hanging out with all the Jersey guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those guys are so cool, easy, so funny, so.

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Speaker 2: Funny, and it's my understanding they did a like a

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Speaker 2: like a what do you call that?

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Speaker 3: A guys?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 2: What is that guy's dance show in Vegas called.

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Speaker 3: Magic Mic or something like that? Magic Mic, I got

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Speaker 3: to share with you my magic mic dance.

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Speaker 1: You have one.

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Speaker 3: I have one. I did one for my company party,

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Speaker 3: like thirteen years ago.

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Speaker 2: You have it on video.

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Speaker 3: I do have it on video.

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Speaker 2: I gotta see it, dude.

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Speaker 3: I bring out the umbrella. I choreographed the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: It was it all.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome. Well that makes sense now because I remember

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Speaker 2: we're at the podcast in San Francisco when we were

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Speaker 2: launching our podcasts and the girls did their podcast live. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you were like, hey, let's go out there, do the umbrella,

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Speaker 2: do the my magic mic dance. I'm like, I don't

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Speaker 2: know how to do that, and you started showing me.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, how does he know how to do that?

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Speaker 3: I remember that. Yeah, that's where that's where the little

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Speaker 3: idea came from.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome. That is awesome.

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Speaker 3: I think he's ready. I think he's ready to go.

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Speaker 2: He's ready to go.

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Speaker 3: Bring him on. Let's bring the legend on. What's up, Joe,

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Speaker 3: what's up? What's up?

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Speaker 6: Joe.

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Speaker 1: It's good to see you, Nice to see you. Everything good.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you being on this show. We know how

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Speaker 3: busy you are, so just taking the time to be

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Speaker 3: on the show really means a lot.

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Speaker 1: Bat I was doing ninety to get home to get

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Speaker 1: on this. I'm been a little crazy, but it's all

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Speaker 1: good man.

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Speaker 2: Joe Gorga has been married to Melissa Gorga since two

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Speaker 2: thousand and four. They share three kids together, Antonia, Gino

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Speaker 2: and Joey. They have been part of the Real Housewives

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Speaker 2: of New Jersey since twenty ten. D's that's a long time.

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Speaker 2: Joe is an entrepreneur who has businesses in real estate development,

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Speaker 2: trash and sanitation, retail, and Joe is an author. And

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Speaker 2: one more thing I got to throw in there, Joe's

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Speaker 2: a comedian. I mean he did stand up. We were

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Speaker 2: just talking about that. You got balls, Joe, guy with

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Speaker 3: I think you forgot Also bodybuilder man. Joe's ripped man,

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Speaker 3: He's always been ripped. In fact, we were just talking

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Speaker 3: about your discipline, and you know, I'm a big fan

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Speaker 3: of discipline. I can tell you have it just on

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Speaker 3: everything You've been able to do right, just in all

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Speaker 3: walks of life. And obviously you've been on this show

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Speaker 3: for fourteen years and legendary status, right, you know. I

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Speaker 3: often say, like, you know, when someone's good at something,

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Speaker 3: when they could consistently do it right, and you know,

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Speaker 3: you've been consistent all your life. And but before we

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Speaker 3: tell us a little bit about just the beginning of Joe.

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Speaker 1: The beginning of Housewives?

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Speaker 3: No, no, the beginning of your life? Right? How did

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Speaker 3: you know your childhood life? And how did that? How

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Speaker 3: Who was the villains? Who was who was your mentors?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my childhood life was pretty pretty wild. I'm going

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Speaker 1: I grew up in an inner city. So I was

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Speaker 1: like this Italian kid surrounded by just a bunch of

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Speaker 6: The Italians were more like they were hanging out.

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Speaker 1: They were you know, playing cards at the at the

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Speaker 1: coffee shops, you know, doing expressos, and and I was

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Speaker 1: out just working, busting my ass and hustling and playing sports.

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Speaker 1: I was always a workaholic. I started when I was

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Speaker 1: nine years old delivering newspapers, and I delivered peoples like, oh,

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Speaker 6: But I had like a thousand routes, thousand houses.

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Speaker 1: I had to do. Now I would do it overnight

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Speaker 1: and start at four o'clock in the morning, get it

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Speaker 1: to school. Get get out of school. Now you talk

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Speaker 1: about grammar store, Now get out of school. Right after school,

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Speaker 1: go to work at a hotol joint and flip hot

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Speaker 1: dogs from three o'clock to six thirty. Then from six

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Speaker 1: was a star football player wrestler in a inner city school,

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Speaker 1: so you know it was stud athletes. I was the

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Speaker 1: The kids used to run up to me. Back then

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Speaker 1: there was no phones, there was beepers, but the kids

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Speaker 3: So the way, Joe, how you know we have a

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Speaker 3: lot of parents that listen to this show, right, And

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Speaker 3: how important was sports for you growing up? And how

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Speaker 3: did it help you in business because you've been very

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Speaker 1: And you just said it, discipline. Sports are everything. I like,

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Speaker 1: I always tell my kids, you got to have a sport.

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Speaker 1: You got to go to school, but you got to

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Speaker 1: have a sportscause sports teach you.

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Speaker 6: They give you you.

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Speaker 1: You listen to a coach, you take orders, there's responsibilities

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Speaker 1: you got to beat at a certain time.

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Speaker 6: You have to respect and sportsmanship is everything.

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Speaker 1: Sportsmanship is everything, and I always teach my kids that.

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Speaker 1: So wrestling is one of the best sports ever because

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Speaker 1: keep it keep it disciplined, which you know I've I'm

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Speaker 1: been on a show and I lose my temper in ways, right.

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Speaker 1: But what's amazing about my children is how they learned them.

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Speaker 1: What I teach them not to be is be very disciplined.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that if the situation on a wrestling

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Speaker 1: It's how you react. And I'm lucky, man. My kids

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Speaker 2: So where do you think you got your discipline from?

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Speaker 2: Obviously I've grew up doing sports as well, and I

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Speaker 2: learned a lot of discipline from sports, bodybuilding, and all that.

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Speaker 2: That's that's where I learned it. But what do you

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Speaker 2: you know, you know all that stuff. That's what drove

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Speaker 1: always thank him, thank you for making me the man

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Speaker 1: I tell my kids. I said, listen, oh Dad, I

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Speaker 1: you have to go to practice today. You have a responsibility.

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Speaker 1: Your responsibility is that's your job. Your job is to

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Speaker 1: go to practice because that's what that's what you do, right,

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Speaker 1: That's what I do. If I don't go to work,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to eat. So again, sports discipline and

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Speaker 1: so my dad should go to work and buy your bike.

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Speaker 1: Our kids they want to buy, we buy for them.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what we're doing, are we doing are we?

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Speaker 1: You know, I almost want to hold back and not

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Speaker 1: so you kind of get forced into buying them the bike.

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Speaker 1: Back then, my parents in a carry like go to work,

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Speaker 3: One of my favorite quotes is, don't work off how

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Speaker 1: Well, they moved close to My dad had a sister

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Speaker 1: And that's how that's why I migrated to Patterson, New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, what can it be like?

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Speaker 5: California, you know, with you guys, my son looking tan

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Speaker 2: I think we should proceed that question with, you know,

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Speaker 6: Teresa, my sister was always she was a crazy one.

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Speaker 6: So my sister was always the one getting.

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Speaker 1: And we grew up uh uh. Teresa and I were

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Speaker 6: So I thought he was my cousin.

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Speaker 1: My whole life.

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Speaker 6: And then she winds up Marriag my cousin, But we

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Speaker 1: We weren't related, but but we were we.

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Speaker 6: Were best friends growing up. Her parents molded us to be.

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Speaker 1: Like that, and I always respected my sister. I was

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Speaker 6: She would call me, Joe, where are you. I'm like,

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Speaker 6: I'd take a beat for her, like dad terces with

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Speaker 5: Like I got it, don't worried.

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Speaker 6: He's like, I got to kill you.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, but I always I would sometimes sit in

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Speaker 1: It was like friends like true. I knew everything about her,

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Speaker 6: She her grandmother raised her.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so when my dad met my mom, he cherished her,

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I see that when I when I see you and

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but that, you know, that's what I was taught.

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Speaker 1: That's what I that's what I saw, and uh and

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Speaker 6: I treat her, I treat my wife, or I treat everybody.

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Speaker 1: Right, I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 6: I really I really give everybody.

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Speaker 1: Respect and and if they screw me, you screw me.

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Speaker 1: I walk away. I just never talk to you ever again.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm that type of guy. I just really

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Speaker 1: It life is short, man. Yeah, you know there's no

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Speaker 1: hell away from them, right.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. Have you ever met anybody,

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Speaker 1: How About when you meet him and they're like, oh

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I see that part too. Yeah, I like

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Speaker 6: Listen, this what's up, man, This is who I am,

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Speaker 6: this is what I do.

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Speaker 1: This is what I have. I'm not bigger than I am.

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Speaker 1: I am who I am, and and that's it being

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Speaker 2: You do, you do, and and the consistency of your

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Speaker 2: they're you know, quoting all these things about you know,

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Speaker 2: it's like they hide behind that phase, right, and you're like,

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Speaker 2: I'm disappointed, but I'm glad I didn't get screwed.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of them out there, buddy, you know.

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Speaker 2: A lot a lot.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, Joe, Man, I love some I love so

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Speaker 3: many of the things that you're talking about right now,

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Speaker 3: You got one mom. I don't care what happens, you

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Speaker 3: So I'm glad you brought that up. And I'm also

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Speaker 1: By the way, my dad was really a real guy man.

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Speaker 1: He was a hard working, just told you how it was.

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Speaker 1: He was just he was an amazing, amazing man. My mother too.

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Speaker 1: You know, hard working people, great people. You know, they

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Speaker 2: Know, speaking of imperfect. I want to talk a little

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Speaker 2: It's it's you know everything that I believe in, how

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Speaker 1: The first time I saw Melissa, I was I was

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Speaker 1: in spring break, I was a little I was a

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Speaker 1: late bloomer because I worked. I started my business when

439
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Speaker 1: I was eighteen. Everybody's in college going to spring break.

440
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Speaker 1: So my first spring break, I believe I was twenty

441
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Speaker 1: five or twenty six, so I mean, can't Coon. Everybody

442
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 1: goes to cant Coon. I go with two of my

443
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 1: friends wearing cant Coon. I'm in the pool, you know,

444
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 1: two girls next to me, and they were playing this

445
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Speaker 1: game on the beach. On the stage where you a

446
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 1: guy and a girl. They run off the stage, run

447
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: into the down the beach, into the ocean, and you change.

448
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: You know. The girl takes her bikini off, the guy

449
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: puts it on, she puts your shorts on, and they

450
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Speaker 1: run out of it.

451
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 6: They run out of the ocean onto the stage.

452
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Speaker 1: Now the girl's booms are flopping and we're sitting at

453
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Speaker 1: the pool. Keep in mind, this is a huge hotel.

454
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Speaker 1: We're sitting at the pool and I'm watching this. I'm like, oh,

455
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 1: this is a good game. I said, let's play it here.

456
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Speaker 1: So we played that game. So I got this girl's

457
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Speaker 1: thong bikini on and they got my shorts. I'm in

458
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Speaker 1: the pool, I have two of them. My best friend

459
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Speaker 1: since five years old was right next to me. He

460
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Speaker 1: was he had a girl next to her. Said we're

461
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Speaker 1: all hanging out. I'm kissing one, I'm moving, I'm kissing

462
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Speaker 1: the other one.

463
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Speaker 6: They're grabbing my face.

464
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Speaker 1: And as they're grabbing my face, I look across the

465
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Speaker 1: pool and I see this beautiful girl and that was

466
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Speaker 1: my curly dark hair. She had this little leopard bikinian

467
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Speaker 1: I look at her. I don't know what made me

468
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 1: look and I say, oh my god, who is that?

469
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Speaker 1: So I grabbed my friend, my best friend, Tony. The

470
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Speaker 1: reason why I bring his name up because he tells

471
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Speaker 1: the story. I grab him and I said, Tom, look

472
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Speaker 1: at that. That's going to be my wife, right in

473
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Speaker 1: front of these girls.

474
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Speaker 6: But I couldn't get up because I was I was busy.

475
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 6: I had two girls in the two girls, but I

476
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Speaker 6: kept my eye her.

477
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Speaker 1: I kept watching her. I kept seeing who her friends were,

478
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: and I was like okay. So when I was done,

479
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 1: I got up. I went. I went over to her

480
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: table where they were hanging out. So I say, hey,

481
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Speaker 1: who's that girl? Hi, guys, and I make friends with

482
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Speaker 1: her friends. I go, who's that girl with the curly hair?

483
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: And they're like, ah, you don't want to meet her,

484
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: She's a bitch.

485
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Speaker 3: This is her friend.

486
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Speaker 1: She actually went up back. She went back to the room.

487
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Speaker 1: So I said, no, I really want to meet. Where

488
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Speaker 1: are you guys from? They're like, Tom's River. I try

489
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Speaker 1: to go, are you guys going tonight? We're going to

490
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Speaker 1: this club La Boom. That's what it was back then.

491
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Speaker 1: So I go, I get their phone number, we meet,

492
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Speaker 1: we go to this club La Boom. She didn't come out.

493
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Speaker 1: Melissa had come out. She stayed in her room. She

494
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: was a good girl. Melissa, she said she didn't she

495
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: didn't want to come out. So these girls, I'm hanging

496
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Speaker 1: out with her friends. I didn't want to hang out

497
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Speaker 1: with her friends.

498
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Speaker 3: I really didn't ranging out in the price.

499
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Speaker 1: So I made friends with her friends. But I kept

500
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Speaker 1: on saying, where's your friend? So for the rest of

501
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 1: the trip, I didn't see her friend. I didn't see Melissa,

502
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Speaker 1: but I knew she was from the Jersey Shore back home.

503
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Speaker 1: So once we got home, went back summer hit, I

504
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: flew down the shore to find her. Wow, and I

505
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Speaker 1: found her.

506
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Speaker 2: How do you find somebody in the Jersey Shore, isn't

507
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: it big?

508
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Speaker 3: No?

509
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Speaker 1: Because there's an area where all the nightclubs are okay,

510
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: and you go to this one spot. And that's keep

511
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Speaker 1: in mind. I kept them. I kept in touch with

512
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Speaker 1: her friends.

513
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Speaker 3: Called her.

514
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Speaker 1: I said, are you guys going tonight? All right, We're

515
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Speaker 1: going to Temptations. I'm like, I'm be there.

516
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Speaker 6: I get there.

517
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Speaker 1: Nice and early.

518
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Speaker 6: People used to go out at like twelve one o'clock.

519
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Speaker 1: Here I am. I get through. I was older, so

520
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: I was working my own business. I got there like

521
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: at nine o'clock, I'm sitting at the bar. Close started happening.

522
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: So by the time twelve, Melissa would show up at

523
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Speaker 1: one o'clock in the morning.

524
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Speaker 6: The club closes at two, so today she would come

525
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Speaker 6: from one.

526
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Speaker 1: I guess that's when the cool people came from one

527
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 1: to the store window.

528
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Speaker 6: So yeah, so I'm sitting there. Didn't think she was coming.

529
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: So I'm hanging out.

530
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Speaker 6: By the time i'm hanging out, I'm hooking up with girls.

531
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Speaker 1: I'm drinking.

532
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 6: I'm at the bar.

533
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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Melissa walks in, but again I

534
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Speaker 1: can't go up and talk to her yet because I

535
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: was involved with another girl. So this went on.

536
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Speaker 6: This went on for like all summer, never really spoke.

537
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Speaker 1: To her till one day one day up north, I

538
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Speaker 1: walk into a restaurant bar.

539
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Speaker 6: There she is working. She was bartending. I walked right up.

540
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Speaker 1: To her and I go, oh my god. I go,

541
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Speaker 1: you know Melissa, right. She goes yes, like I've been

542
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Speaker 1: looking for you all year. She goes why. I go,

543
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Speaker 1: I'm going to marry you. I said, I'm going to

544
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: put you on a pedestal and you're gonna be my wife.

545
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: She goes, you you know and I said, let's I

546
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: try to. I said, give me a number, let me

547
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: take you at the dinner. She's like no. So she

548
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: said no to me. So I said, yeah, you said no.

549
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: I was obsessed with her. So I sat at her

550
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: bar and I said, can I have a bottle? I

551
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: started talking to girls. I said, you guys want to drink?

552
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 6: I said, can?

553
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: I can? I go to Melissa? Melissa, can I have

554
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,479
Speaker 1: a bottle of dom Perion for my Then I go,

555
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: do you have any strawberries? With that?

556
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 6: Drinking at her barn, hitting on.

557
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: Her the whole time, but I was hanging out with

558
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: these girls. I did that two weeks in a row.

559
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: The third week I went back to the place and no.

560
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Speaker 1: The third week I didn't go. I went two weeks

561
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 1: in a row, did the same thing. She denied me twice.

562
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Speaker 1: The third week, my friends went, I didn't go to

563
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: the bar. They go, They come back. The next day.

564
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: They called me in the morning and say, hey, Joe, yeah,

565
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: he goes you know that bar to Melissa. I go, yeah,

566
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: she was asking for you. I go, oh, she was

567
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: asking for me. This is every Thursday night. Thursday night

568
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: shot there. I walked up to her bar, and hey, Benny, hey,

569
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: I got I heard you were asking for.

570
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 6: Jane.

571
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: She had her numbers ready. She slipped me her number.

572
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: I got all right, took her around and one date

573
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: and we never left each other ever since then. We

574
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: dated for We dated for three months, three months, she

575
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 1: moved in, six months, engaged, ten months married.

576
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 3: Wow.

577
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. So we were married in August and my daughter

578
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: was born in August a year later. We moved fast.

579
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 2: Oh what was it that gave you the confidence that

580
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 2: she was the one?

581
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: You know what? I asked myself that same question, because

582
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: I was engaged twice before her twice, and I called

583
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: the weddings off myself. I called the wedding not because

584
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: of any They weren't cheating.

585
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 6: I wasn't cheating, none of that. I just was so confused.

586
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: And I sat with this guy that was kind of

587
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: like my mentor older guy. I was landscaping his house.

588
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: I used to cut his grass. He was seventy years old,

589
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 1: and I was like, ah, I said, Pete, I'm just

590
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: so confused, Like I'm engaged. I just keep thinking about it.

591
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if I want to

592
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: get married, I go. I love her, I don't know

593
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: if I'm in love with her, and he goes, son,

594
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: if you have a doubt, get out because that doubt

595
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: whatever's bothering you now about her, You've got to live

596
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: with this person the rest of your life. He goes,

597
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: you want to have a divorce. I said no, So

598
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: he said yeah. And I listened to that, and I

599
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: called the wedding off the first one. Second one was

600
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: kind of like I was. I was kind of heartbroken

601
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: calling off the wedding. I was confused. So I get

602
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: engaged with this other girl. She was a great girl.

603
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: Very that was a big mistake. Called that wedding off

604
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: same a couple of weeks before wedding. I was never

605
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: see the problem is with everybody today. Why people get engaged,

606
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: I mean and get married. Some people don't even want

607
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: to get married. They think, oh I got the right

608
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: this is the right guy. He goes, he works hard.

609
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: I really don't love him, but he's going to provide

610
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: for me. Or oh this is the right girl. She's

611
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: a good girl, you know, and you're really not crazy

612
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: in love. I didn't want that. I wanted to be

613
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: crazy in love with somebody because.

614
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 6: I know I'm nuts. You know, I'm nuts.

615
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: I need to be you know, I need to be

616
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: with somebody that I love and I want to come

617
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: home to. And Melissa was the one. When I met her,

618
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: I just wanted to be with her every minute, and

619
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: I knew she was one and there was not a doubt.

620
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: Here's a little story before that. I was always a workaholic,

621
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: so I'm always working. So I mean I'm getting engaged

622
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: to the first one. So I say to my dad,

623
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: I said, Dad, go get go pick me out a ring.

624
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: Because my dad always went to the jewelers. He always

625
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: had a connection with the jeweler. I always bought my

626
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: mother's stuff. And I said, Dad, go find me a

627
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: ring and bringing it. So the first woman he found

628
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: the ring gave it. The second one, same thing. Go

629
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: get me a ring. You got me ring.

630
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 6: Melissa came around. I said, bye, go get I'm ready

631
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 6: to get married.

632
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: He goes. I said, go get me a ring. Goes ah,

633
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: he goes, I'm doing it. He because you want to

634
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: marry this girl. You go get your own ring, my

635
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: own ring. He goes, you gotta be ready. And the

636
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: day I got married. Look, the day I got married, beautiful,

637
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: sunny day, beautiful. It's Sonny. We go up and we're

638
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: giving our vows. Melissa goes, then I go. When I go,

639
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: thunder was like a tornado, thundering light. Everybody's like, look,

640
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: what the hell's going on? For a minute one minute

641
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,719
Speaker 1: and it stopped. I was getting my val So I

642
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: got married. Coming out, my father comes to hug and

643
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: he goes, you did it. He goes, he goes, holy ship,

644
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: did you hear the rain? And I go, yo, my god.

645
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 6: He goes me yea and he goes, that's all the

646
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 6: girls crying.

647
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: Then you got married.

648
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 3: Back in those Jersey Shore days, did you ever run

649
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: into the New Jersey Shore Castle, because I assume that's

650
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 3: when they were all famous.

651
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: Right, I ran it to him all time.

652
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were you ever buddies with them?

653
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: I know them, I know them all.

654
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 6: But no, not back then, No, not back then.

655
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: I met that back then.

656
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I met him through TV. And don't

657
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: don't they don't even live in Jersey Dire from like

658
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: Glown Island. They were from different areas.

659
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just welcome the reality TV right.

660
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: So, by the way, one thing that I want to

661
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 3: make sure we don't skip overder is I think it's

662
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 3: very important. You know, you go childhood right, you started

663
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 3: working at a young age. You worked, you know, you

664
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: were great at sports. How did you start your little

665
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 3: empire that you got, or I shouldn't say little, your

666
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 3: empire that you got with business? How did that get started?

667
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: Where did you say finally like I'm going to start

668
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 3: my business and was like a big risk that you

669
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 3: had to take or how did that all come across

670
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: come about?

671
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: I was I was in college. I was playing football.

672
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: I tore my ACL had a major operation back then,

673
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: and acls are not like today. You know, they cut

674
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: you open right over the middle, big staples and you

675
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: basically don't come back from that kind of injury. So

676
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: it came home for the summer rehabbing my knee. Back.

677
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 6: A couple months later, I get I get a job.

678
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: I had to go back to college, but I get

679
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: a job working for a landscaper and started working for him.

680
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: And this guy had a beautiful house, nice cars. Know,

681
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: he was married. I mean, this guy had the life.

682
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: And I said, wow, yeah, I'm a young kid. You know.

683
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: I came from Patterson, New Jersey. I lived in We

684
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: lived in a real small house and this guy had

685
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: a beautiful home, and I'm working and I see all

686
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: the jobs that he was doing. I'm like, this guy

687
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: makes money. So I started working for a couple months later.

688
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: I worked from for about six months learning the business.

689
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: And six months later I out my own business. And

690
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: I was younger, like I said, I was nineteen years old.

691
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: I decided not to go back to college and I

692
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: went to my sister and I looked for this little

693
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: business that were selling. It was cheap and it was

694
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: like fifteen thousand dollars. I had to buy a route,

695
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: which was they were selling thirty five houses, you know,

696
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: lawn contracts, a beat up, beat up equipment like a

697
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: law mallwer trailer.

698
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 6: The whole deal was fifteen thousand I had.

699
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: I didn't have any money, so I said, I thought,

700
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: you know, entrepreneur, businessman. I said, how am I going

701
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: to get this money? You know? So I said to

702
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: my sister. She she was, you know, two years older

703
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 1: than me. She had a job, she was doing any thing.

704
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: I know. She had credit cards, So I said, can

705
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: I can I cash advance your credit cards to ball

706
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: the money? I said, I'll borrow the money, I'll pay

707
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: you back, and she she gave me I think I

708
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: cash advanced three credit cards five thousand dollars each.

709
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 6: And that's the relationship we had.

710
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: You no brother, sister, can I take She just starting

711
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: her life right and she had three card I said,

712
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: can I cash advance? Yeah, no problem here she game

713
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: to me. I pulled the money out. I bought the business.

714
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: I just beat up truck. Truck cost me one thousand

715
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: dollars and I busted my ass paid her credit cards back,

716
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: and little by little I remember the truck breaking down.

717
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: After three months later, I had no truck. Truck broke down.

718
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: I only bought it for one thousand dollars. And I

719
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: would drive my loanmower, drive my loanmower with the big

720
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: green bucket with the blower three whackers, and I'm driving

721
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: a loanmower. You know, it's eight miles away to the

722
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: because I lived in Patison, I'd get to North Hillton

723
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: was my first house, and I'm driving.

724
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 6: It took me forever.

725
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 4: I left that four o'clock in the morning to get

726
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 4: to the house by eight o'clock, took four hours to

727
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 4: fill it up gas and and for I think four months,

728
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 4: I worked without a truck, and I cut all these grass, and.

729
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 6: I drove my loanmower to everyone's house.

730
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: But see I would cut a guy's house, a guy

731
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: like you, and you would see that I was hustling

732
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: and working, and you would say to me, hey, Joe,

733
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: you want to put my patio in, Joe, you want

734
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: to put my And people just gravitated towards me. They

735
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: saw I worked hard, and I'd work by myself and

736
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: and and put a patio, and that would take a

737
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: let's say, take a week. I'd do it in three

738
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: days because I would work. I would start at eight

739
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: the more I mean six in the morning, and work

740
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: stayed at your house at eleven o'clock at night. You're

741
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: eating dinner with your family, and I'm in there working

742
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: in the backyard. And when I was done, people are like,

743
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: here you go. They paid me. And slowly like that,

744
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: I just grew and grew, and from the landscape and

745
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: business started buying houses, sort of renovating houses, flipping houses,

746
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: and then then houses went to multi million dollar homes,

747
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: buying and flipping those or building them from the ground

748
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: up and from there, and then started buying getting into

749
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: apartment buildings. Because I always said, I have to have

750
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: to create passive income. So I don't want to work

751
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: with this my whole life. I need income coming in

752
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: every month. So I started buying, uh two families, keeping

753
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: them threes fours, learning the banking system, how to borrow money. Everything,

754
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: everything's about borrow money. You got to know how to

755
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: borrow money. You know. I met a guy, a.

756
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 6: Very very successful guy.

757
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: When he meets you, he shakes you, he says, how

758
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: you doing, He goes, YEA, the more you owe, the

759
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: more you work. So basically, if you if you if

760
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: you owe a billion dollars, you work two billion. Correct.

761
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 6: The more you owe, the more you work.

762
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: Because he's really wealthy and he owes a lot of money,

763
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: but he's worked ten times the money, you know. And

764
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: so so I went from from building now I build

765
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: apartment buildings and keep them in managing them.

766
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 3: So, so how long did it take you to finally

767
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 3: start making money?

768
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: Right?

769
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: Because people think that it's an overnight success, like people

770
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 3: just become overnight successes, right, And but what most people

771
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 3: don't understand is the sacrifice that it takes, all the

772
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 3: price that you have to pay. You know, you're talking

773
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: about six am to eleven pm, working twelve am and

774
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 3: people's houses. Like, people don't see that. They just now

775
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 3: see that you're building, you know, apartments and high rises

776
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: and all this, and they don't see that price. Right.

777
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 3: So how long did it take you to finally make

778
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 3: some money where you can buy some dom Pea bottles

779
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: and go to Kancun and do all those things that

780
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 3: you started doing twenty six twenty seven years old? Because

781
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 3: you started at nineteen, how long did it take you

782
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: to to actually start making some money.

783
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: I made money right away, you know what, because I worked.

784
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: I did the impossible. I worked so hard the things

785
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: that people like I'm not doing that, you know. I

786
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: climbed trees that I was afraid of. Heights. Customers said

787
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: to me, I got to look at this tree. You

788
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: want to take it down, Joe. I just got a

789
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: price for five thousand and take a down. I looked up.

790
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: The tree was bigger than it was one hundred and

791
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 1: some feet here.

792
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 6: It was an old tree.

793
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 1: He couldn't even wrap downs.

794
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 6: I go, yeah, five thousand dollars.

795
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: That was my first tree hive.

796
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 6: I go, yeah, daddy, I could do it. Pro I

797
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 6: took this tree dout, climb the tree.

798
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: I got stuck up there for four hours. What do

799
00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: it meaning? Scared of heights? You know, in my head,

800
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: I kept on saying, it's five thousand dollars. That's five thou.

801
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: You gotta get this done. You can buy a new truck.

802
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: You can buy a truck, get this tree down. Cut myself,

803
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: got it down, did the impossible. I mean, I risked

804
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: my life so many times. I mean, and I took

805
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: the treat dot. I took the tree down. There was

806
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: a whole story about that. It's funny as hell. But

807
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: I got the treat at, I got daid and the

808
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: next day I run to the the lettering guy and

809
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 1: I put on my truck. My company was called Second

810
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: Look Landscape, Second Look Landscape and tree Experts, and I

811
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: said tree experts on the bottom.

812
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 6: And trees, and became one of the biggest tree companies.

813
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: So I had a landscape tree company. Oh yeah, So

814
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: I made money. And everybody says, yeah, anybody, we live

815
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: in the land of opportunity. You live in America. Can

816
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: you make money? Yes, anybody can go go out and

817
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: go to work. It hurts, work sucks, right, let's think

818
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: about that. The more you put in, the more time

819
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: you put in. Yeah, you don't go hang out with

820
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: your friends. I said, I lost my childhood, right.

821
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 3: I worked.

822
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: I was a late bloomer. I didn't go to I

823
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: didn't go to a spring break till I was twenty six.

824
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: But you know what, by the time that little dick,

825
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: I built a netpire. By the time I was twenty six,

826
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: I had a house. So when I was in Cancun

827
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: hanging out with those kids that are twenty two, twenty five,

828
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: twenty six, because they're still.

829
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 6: I owned a house already, yeah, nice, you know, but

830
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 6: I put the time in.

831
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 1: I literally, and I'm not exaggerating. I literally worked every

832
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: day from four am. Now you're taking construction, get my

833
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: stuff out four to eleven o'clock at night every night,

834
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,959
Speaker 1: and every night I came home, I lived. I lived

835
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: at home from the beginning, and every night I came home,

836
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,479
Speaker 1: I'd come home at eleven o'clock. My mother would get up, wait,

837
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: wait for me, get off, get up off the couch.

838
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: She always made dinner and she would heat it up,

839
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: make sure I had a nice home cooked meal, you know,

840
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: every night, and I'd eat dinner at eleven o'clock at night.

841
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 2: That's awesome. You were talking about your success and how

842
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: you built it.

843
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and all the sacrifice that that went with it.

844
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I love it because again, one of my

845
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: favorite quotes is if you don't, if you don't sacrifice

846
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 3: for what you want, what you want becomes the sacrifice.

847
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 3: And that literally is a testament of Joe's story. So

848
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 3: I'm so glad we got we got we got a

849
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: chance to hear that business side, because a lot of

850
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 3: people don't get to hear that part, right, They only

851
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 3: see what the Housewives show. And obviously I follow you

852
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 3: on Instagram, so I see what you're doing, man, and

853
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 3: I'm just like, man, this it's it's very inspiring. Now,

854
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: really quick, tell us about you know you obviously you

855
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 3: have three kids, right, do they watch the show at all?

856
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: Not really? I mean, my my daughter I went to

857
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: college and all the girls in college start talking about it.

858
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 6: So she's like, I'm going to start watching his show.

859
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: So she started watching the show for the first time ever,

860
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: and she's like, Wow, she's into it. She's like, you know,

861
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: she wants to watch more. So that's she she waits

862
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: for the episodes now. But the boys are not into it.

863
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: They don't watch it at.

864
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 6: All, which is pretty cool.

865
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: I loved that my children over the fourteen years, didn't

866
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: get a shit about being on TV. Never, We never

867
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: made it a big deal. We kind of kept them

868
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: humble and like this is no big deals, just work.

869
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 1: And they never really got crazy with it, which was great.

870
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: You know, they never got into it with all the

871
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: nonsense and they just stayed real and did their own thing.

872
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: That was a question I had for you, you know, because

873
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: it obviously affected yours and Melissa's life. When you became

874
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 2: you know, famous like us, and anywhere you go, people

875
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: want to take a picture with you, or they just

876
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: want to touch you, or they just want to, you know,

877
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: talk about your big you took Like how was that?

878
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: Well that was last year? You know? How How did

879
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 2: the kids get affected by their friends who watched the show?

880
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: Did they ever have any good or bad experiences?

881
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: Nothing? Nothing bad, man, nothing, thank god? Everything great. Yeah.

882
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: Our kids try to avoid it. They try to, you know, say, well,

883
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about. They never introduced themselves,

884
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: you know, they try to avoid the whole. Yeah, tameras

885
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: my mom. And when they found out, you know, they're like, what,

886
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 2: we just went to our our old our Spencer's graduation

887
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: party and he had a friend there from work and

888
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: we were just chatting. My wife told me the story

889
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: and she she she was having a conversation with him,

890
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: the guy you know, was Spencer's age, talking to his

891
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 2: mom and asking her questions, like typical questions, what do

892
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: you do for a living? And so she proceeded to say, yeah,

893
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: I'm on TV. I'm gonna I'm on the show. And

894
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: she's like, what he never said anything about that? Yeah,

895
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: you know, I've been on the show for years.

896
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: What.

897
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's been on the show. He's never said

898
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: anything about being on TV.

899
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: That's good. That's when they're not affected and they're just like, listen,

900
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: this is nothing and I'm doing my thing. That's that's

901
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: that's great because when they get too involve, you know,

902
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: the kids could.

903
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: Get it, could get that stuff.

904
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, they get messed up, they get caught up in it,

905
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: and this is a different world. It changes a lot

906
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: of people. Yeah, and you gotta you gotta have it here.

907
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 2: How did it affect you and Melissa? You know, how

908
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 2: did it change your lives if at all?

909
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: Oh, well, it definitely changed your life. It changed when

910
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: we when we first got on the show, it was

911
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: pretty crazy. Uh it was Uh, I mean it was

912
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: the beginning, you know. I think Orange County was first, yeah, right,

913
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: I think they had two or three seasons in and

914
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: then we came on, I think the third season in

915
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: and it became like this family thing.

916
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and was on it already, right.

917
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was on. She was on first. She started

918
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: the show with another woman, Dina, but then it came

919
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 1: to this family thing, so it kind of it kind

920
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: of went. We we our life changed instantly. I mean

921
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: we couldn't wherever we walked, anywhere we went, major celebrities instantly.

922
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: It was pretty crazy. You know, everybody wanted to know

923
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: you so and we handled it. We handled it very well. Yeah,

924
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: we really. I stayed very focused. I went to work

925
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: every day. Melissa did her things. We had her bab

926
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: our kids were very young, so she did the TV thing.

927
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: Then she was handling her children. She came home when

928
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: she was a mom, So kept her very grounded, which

929
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: was great. And uh, same hare Man. But you know

930
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: I could have I could have easily got to my

931
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: head and and thought I was a big shot. And

932
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 1: you know, I don't have to work like this anymore,

933
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: and I don't have to do this. But now I

934
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: stayed humble and I went and shoveled or picked dirt

935
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: and do what I do. And and because I I know, listen,

936
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: everything is temporary, not in last forever.

937
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 2: How did you handle the social media aspect of it?

938
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 2: Because I always say and I remind my wife and

939
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: everybody I talked to about this experience. Like you said earlier,

940
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: Ted Ted Winder, I can't get over that name. When

941
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 2: you are on a reality TV show, if fifty percent

942
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 2: of the people love you and fifty percent of the

943
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: people hate you, you're going to be popular, right. But

944
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 2: if it swings either one way or the other, nobody,

945
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: you're not going to make it right. So how did

946
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 2: you handle the negative side of the social media? You

947
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: know the people that's you know, you're not tall enough,

948
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 2: you're not short enough, you're not white enough, you're not

949
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: brown enough, you're not you're not good looking enough, you're

950
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: too good looking? How did you handle all that negative?

951
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: Why do you have to throw a shorten there?

952
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: Because it goes with.

953
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: Im? Who would say that ship if I wasn't short?

954
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 2: It's that comes up. It's all stupid.

955
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I say this all the time.

956
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: People ask me that question all the time. How do

957
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: you handle it? How do you First, I got a thick,

958
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: thick skin, and I look in the mirror. No, because

959
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: we got we got hammered, hammered, right, you know, on

960
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 1: on social media, you get hammered when you're a reality

961
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: start may make up all these allegations about you know,

962
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: all this bullshit, and nothing is true right for me,

963
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: thank god, you know, but I really never gave a

964
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 1: shit what anybody ever saying, because I look in the mirror.

965
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 1: I get up every day and I earned every dollar

966
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: I've ever made in my life this way. Yeah, and

967
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: I don't give a shit when anybody could say about me,

968
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: and it doesn't bother me. And I really barely read it,

969
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: and I don't care to read in because I knew

970
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: who I was. And when you know who you are,

971
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: you know when you respond and everything goes you because

972
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: you know you're that person and you responded. Yeah, So

973
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: if they call you a certain name, or they say

974
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: something and it eats you up, so you respond to

975
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: it and you're trying to fight it or clean it up, nothing.

976
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: Up, and it ever affected your relationship with Melissa. For example,

977
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 2: there was an instance where one of the housewives that

978
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: was trying to get back at my wife. She couldn't

979
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: hurt my wife any longer, so she came after me

980
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: and created this whole fabricated scene at her house talking about,

981
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: you know, I'm gay. I slept with this guy. I

982
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: walked into a room with this guy, and this whole

983
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 2: allegation that I was gay, And like you, I don't

984
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: give up. You can say anything you want to bout me, gay, straight, whatever.

985
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: But it affected my wife so much that she, you know,

986
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 2: didn't know what to do and started getting offended, and

987
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 2: it was obviously an attack on her marriage, right. And

988
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 2: at one point I didn't understand it because I was like, Babe,

989
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter to me. It doesn't matter what these

990
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 2: people think about me. You know who I am, you

991
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: know who what it's what our relationship is. And and

992
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 2: it didn't dawn on me that it it created a

993
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: little fight between us because I couldn't understand why it

994
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: was affecting her so much. And then it took me

995
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 2: a while to figure out, oh, it's affecting her. So

996
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 2: I got to figure out why it's affecting her and

997
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: support her on this, and what I learned is it

998
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: was an attack on her family. And when they attack

999
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 2: your kids, when they attack your family, that kind of

1000
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: that's where she loses her shit. Like you can attack everything,

1001
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: you can say, you know, you can. You can say

1002
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm a crook if you want. That's illegal, but you

1003
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 2: can say I'm a crook. But don't go after my family.

1004
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: Don't go after my kids. You know, they're not part

1005
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: of this show. Did that ever happen to you guys,

1006
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 2: And did you guys ever have any problems like that? Oh?

1007
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, we've we've been on this fourteen years. If

1008
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you things like that didn't happen

1009
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: it did? You know? This has been a rollercoaster. I

1010
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: mean there's been great times, there's been bad times. You know. Again,

1011
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: we've been we've been on with family, I mean some

1012
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: serious family stuff. So there was times that you know,

1013
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: we were so upset and we had arguments about it

1014
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: because for no reason, because of the because of the pressure,

1015
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I mean it's been a lot. I mean,

1016
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: this is this is not an easy game, you know that, right,

1017
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: And we're putting our lives out there and we're just

1018
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: basically you're a darkboard. And just they're just throwing darts

1019
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 1: at you and trying to hit that bullseye and are

1020
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: constantly doing it. So it's a battle. And you really

1021
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: have to have true love, right you real left to

1022
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: laugh because that's how you this. But you guys been

1023
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: together for a long time too, right, Yeah, and you

1024
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: also meet your wife and if you don't have that

1025
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: real love and you were on the rocks already, or

1026
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: you're never gonna make it, because this is the pressure

1027
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: is crazy.

1028
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 2: I remember in the beginning when I first learned about

1029
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: Jersey and I started watching a little bit about it

1030
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 2: through my wife. Of course, there was a lot of

1031
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: battling between you and Theresa and the family dynamics, and

1032
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: I thought, well, that's got to be bad, you know,

1033
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 2: because this is family. This is messing up families. I

1034
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 2: don't for us. They put us in a room with

1035
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: people we've never met in our life and call them

1036
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: our friends, right, and hey, here's your show. If I

1037
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: don't have a relationship with these people, I don't give

1038
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 2: a shit. I didn't know them before the show. I

1039
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: don't care after the show, right, But this is your family,

1040
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 2: And how did that affect you when it's affecting your family.

1041
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 6: I mean, listen, I I would love to, you know, uh,

1042
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 6: be in a room.

1043
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: I always say, tell everybody when we go to Bravo

1044
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: Khan and and you meet all the other people and

1045
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: you're like, listen, put me in a room with a

1046
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: bunch of strangers out to eat them alive. I have phone,

1047
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: you know, you just have some phone with it. Family.

1048
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 7: It's it's a whole different world. It's a different ballgame.

1049
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 7: Like you, when you're done, you you go and you

1050
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 7: really it sinks into your head. Like even now, if

1051
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 7: I watch old episodes, like say on a Sunday, you

1052
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 7: walk by and there's an episode on and it you know,

1053
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 7: and because now because we're air and that's what they do,

1054
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 7: they show they rerun all these episodes and there's an

1055
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 7: incident that I had, you know that.

1056
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: Goes back to like a family day. I don't even

1057
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: watch it. I can't watch it. Yeah, I still can't

1058
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: watch it. I don't want to watch it, you know.

1059
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: So I turned out, I turn it off. I walk

1060
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: right out of the room. And even Melissa, she wouldn't

1061
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: watch those those times because they was so real, so

1062
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: so so.

1063
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 3: Bad for us.

1064
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it was tough. It was It's a ride,

1065
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: you know. That's why I think Jersey was such a

1066
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: popular show because of the family dynamic, and everywhere I

1067
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: went there were people would say to me when I

1068
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: this was I first got on the show, they were like,

1069
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: oh my god, you know hi Joe. Yeah, I don't

1070
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: get along with my brother, I don't get along with

1071
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: my sister, I don't get along with my mother, I

1072
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: don't get all my phone. I mean, the family dynamic

1073
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: thing is everywhere, and and that's why that show was

1074
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: so crazy and so popular, and that's why I went

1075
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: so fast when when we first got on and uh, yeah,

1076
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: it's been a ride, man.

1077
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 2: I mean, that was one of the biggest things that

1078
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: stood out when I first learned about Jersey and how

1079
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 2: the family dynamics and all that it was got to

1080
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 2: be hard. The other dynamic that really stood out on

1081
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 2: Jersey is how you and the guys you could have

1082
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 2: your own show and you guys are so you know,

1083
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: you do so many cool things together on the show.

1084
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 2: You film a lot on the show. Tell tell me

1085
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 2: a little bit about how that happens. I mean, because

1086
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 2: the assumption I have is you guys grew up with

1087
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 2: each other. You know each other, and you get you

1088
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 2: actually get along with each other. Right, There's a lot

1089
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 2: of history, so it makes sense that you have that dynamic.

1090
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 2: Unlike our franchise or most franchises, the guys don't know

1091
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: each other really, you know. And and it's hard enough

1092
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 2: without having a television show in front of you to

1093
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: have a relationship with a husband of a wife. You know, like, like,

1094
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: just because you're her her her husband, doesn't mean we

1095
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: have to be friends, right, but do I mean we

1096
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 2: have to get along? But you know how, tell me

1097
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: about the Jersey House husbands, because you guys, you guys

1098
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 2: have it going on over there.

1099
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: You know. It always takes one right, And if I

1100
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: like to party, man, I like to I like to

1101
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: work hard, but I like that fun. And and if

1102
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: if I'm working and I'm filming, so I worked all day,

1103
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: worked all day from five in the morning. Now now

1104
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: it's filming time. Say it's eight o'clock at night, nine

1105
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: o'clock at night, we're filming. We're at an event. I'm

1106
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: gonna have some fun. I don't care. We're filming. It's

1107
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: about my time.

1108
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 6: This is I'm working on.

1109
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh, come on, guys to a shot.

1110
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 3: Come on.

1111
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 6: So I am, I'm I'm the antagonizer.

1112
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 2: I know you did it to us and Brava, Brava.

1113
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: So I've you know, and I start people getting you know,

1114
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: I like to drink. I can handle my liquor very well,

1115
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: so I like to give. Just start start doing the shots.

1116
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: Get everybody a little twisted. Then the games start happening,

1117
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: you know. And I'm just a jokester. So you know,

1118
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: I've created this little bond with the guys and and

1119
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: we kind of Frank is the only guy on the

1120
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: show that I've known for thirty years, a big Franks

1121
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: containing everyone else. I basically met on the show.

1122
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got you. You and Joelan way back,

1123
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: I know it. Impressions.

1124
00:55:59,560 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1125
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: No, Joe Beningo, No I met him. I met him

1126
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 1: on the show. Okay, but we clicked, you know, we clicked.

1127
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: And and Joe's funny because Joe's the kind of guy.

1128
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: He's really not a drinker, but he kind of like

1129
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: I antagonized in the drink and I said, come on

1130
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: doing that.

1131
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: Come on.

1132
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: Then he starts getting drunk, and he has three or

1133
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: four and he starts doing whatever and he starts dancing.

1134
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: He goes, let me.

1135
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 6: Dance like you, all right, I show him how to dance.

1136
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a sixty five year old guy trying

1137
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: to do the dance, the sexy dance.

1138
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 2: You know.

1139
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: They just they kind of just you know, they listen

1140
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: to me. They they we just we just have fun,

1141
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: you know.

1142
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 3: And well here's one thing too, is you know, if

1143
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 3: you don't have fun, you become bitter. That's why it's

1144
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 3: so important to be to have fun, because that's how

1145
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 3: you you're grateful. Right. But the most bitter people I've

1146
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 3: met is just they're not having fun anymore. Yea, And

1147
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 3: I love that you mentioned that, Joe. As we begin

1148
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 3: to close, you know, father's days coming up, Just two

1149
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 3: quick questions. What's obviously you've been a great dad. What's

1150
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 3: your greatest less of being father, of being a father?

1151
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 3: And then what was the hardest lesson that you had

1152
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 3: to learn about being a father?

1153
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: Uh, it's not about you anymore. It can't be greedy,

1154
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's I always tell everybody, even when

1155
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm married with my wife, and you know, obviously my kids,

1156
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: my kids take it all. I just told my daughter

1157
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: this today. Uh, she says, I said, bring your brother

1158
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: to school for me. I can't do. She's like, Dad,

1159
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: I go, I go, huh, it's not honey. I bought

1160
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: you a nice car at your brother. Take care of

1161
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: your brother. You know it's not always about you. You know,

1162
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: my whole life I gave up for you and your brothers.

1163
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: I give my money to you, guys. I go. If

1164
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: I didn't have you, guys, I'd be living a life.

1165
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: I'd be on a yacht right now with a bunch

1166
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: of Columbian women, great time, not worrying about taking you

1167
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: here and tell you paying for college, paying for this.

1168
00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: But so the biggest lesson is it's uh, don't you

1169
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: can't be selfish? You know it's not about you anymore.

1170
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 3: I teach your kids that teach And the hardest moment

1171
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 3: about being a dad. What's been your hardest moment about

1172
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 3: being a dad?

1173
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: My hardest moment, I really, I'm gonna say, man, I

1174
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: don't have a hard moment. I love it. I would

1175
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: have a hundred kids. I don't care. I'll deal with

1176
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: their problems, you know, I'll deal with everything. I just love.

1177
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: I love my kids. I love that I can look

1178
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: at them, and I love that I've taught them something

1179
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: and they use it. You know, I just there's nothing

1180
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: hard about being a father man's and I love all

1181
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: their challenges and you know hard.

1182
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: Was it hard to see your daughter go away for college?

1183
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: It was hard, but but it was still a beautiful thing.

1184
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: You know, you get it's a proud moment everybody, you know,

1185
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: I know you get upset. I got upset for that moment,

1186
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: but I'm also proud of her. You know, she's going

1187
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: to college. You know, go go, go be who you

1188
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: want to be. Do it the right way. You know.

1189
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: The hardest moment if she ever got in trouble and

1190
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: did some stupid things. And I always tell my kids

1191
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: no drugs. You know, that's the worst thing they can

1192
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: ever That would be the hardest moment if a parent

1193
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: ever had to go through that, because it's.

1194
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 6: A difficult road.

1195
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: And I pray every day that please they don't get

1196
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: involved in that. And you know, you can only wish

1197
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: and teach them, you know, plant that in their head.

1198
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: But that's that's the biggest moment. But you know, I don't.

1199
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: I'm good man. I'm happy being a dad. Man. I'd

1200
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: have a hundred of them. Yeah, and my seat everywhere.

1201
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start planting my seat. I might give it out,

1202
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, start selling it.

1203
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 3: Well. I'll tell you what, man, the timing on you

1204
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 3: coming on couldn't have been better, especially with Father's Day

1205
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 3: coming up, because again, I think you're a great example

1206
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 3: of what a dad should be. You know again, married

1207
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 3: what over twenty years and three children, and you've done

1208
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 3: just a great job. And I've had so much fun

1209
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 3: in this interview.

1210
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: You know.

1211
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 3: One of the things that we try to do as

1212
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 3: well is we got to love I love the most

1213
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 3: is we got to talk a little bit about business

1214
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 3: because a lot of times you don't get to hear that.

1215
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, again, thank you again for coming. I know

1216
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 3: you're busy man, so it means a lot.

1217
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you.

1218
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 6: Listen, you keep looking at you too, handsome son of

1219
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 6: a bitches.

1220
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: You guys keep doing it.

1221
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 3: Hey feels mutual. Brother.

1222
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 2: We'll see you soon.

1223
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 3: Brother.

1224
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 2: It's great talking to you man.

1225
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 3: Guys. I mean, what an exciting interview. We want to

1226
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 3: have more and you know you for you listeners. We'd

1227
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 3: love to hear who you'd like on. I mean, I

1228
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 3: think Joe is an excellent excellent guest.

1229
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1230
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 3: IM so grateful that he showed up because he is

1231
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 3: a busy guy.

1232
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean we have two for two now.

1233
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 2: We had Shane, he was awesome. Now Joe. I can't

1234
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 2: wait for our next one. This is awesome. All right,

1235
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 2: another great one, another great one. Great catching up brother.

1236
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: I guess we will see you on the next show.

1237
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, by the way, you know, so I don't

1238
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:02,919
Speaker 3: know how this whole.

1239
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: You know.

1240
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 3: I was bragging to my wife the other day about

1241
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 3: us having five stars. Uh huh, and she's like, well,

1242
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 3: that's too many stars. You got to have some haters.

1243
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 3: You're not doing something right if everybody just loves you. Guys,

1244
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, you can't win.

1245
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 2: No, no something. This is not that kind of show.

1246
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 2: We want everybody to love us.

1247
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 3: And that's what I told her. I'm like, I don't

1248
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 3: want any haters. I like my five stars.

1249
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 2: I like my five stars.

1250
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, anyway, she made me laugh when she said that.

1251
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 2: That's a good argument, though. I do have to say that.

1252
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 2: But we're not talking garbage. We're not you know, we're

1253
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: not being controversial about the housewife show. You know, we're

1254
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 2: just getting to know the guys, that's it.

1255
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 3: This is what happens when you bragged your wife. I

1256
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 3: was like, well, you guys are like a three and

1257
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 3: a half. Guys, we're at five, you know. And of

1258
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 3: course miss Whitty over there always has a quick comeback.

1259
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 2: Yes they do.

1260
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 3: She's like, well, you would have one hundred thousand downloads

1261
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 3: if people actually hated you.

1262
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well we'll have to put that to the test

1263
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 2: someday now, but maybe. Anyways, I think we're doing a

1264
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 2: great job exactly. All right, Well, that's a wrap. I

1265
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 2: will see you on the next one.

1266
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 3: And Happy Father's Day everyone.

1267
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 2: Happy Father's Day, y'all.