WEBVTT - Lanterns S1E06

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<v Speaker 1>Warning, today's episode contains spoilers for Lanterns, Episode 6. Be warned.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, my name is Jason Concepcion.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm Rosie Knight. And welcome back to X-Ray Vision,

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast where we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics,

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<v Speaker 1>and pop culture. Coming to you from iHeart, where we're

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<v Speaker 1>bringing you three episodes a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus News on Center. Plus News. In today's episode, we

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<v Speaker 2>are recapping episode six of Lantans, which raises many questions, Jason.

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<v Speaker 2>Many questions. Something's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Something's afoot.

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<v Speaker 2>Something is afoot. Something's rotted in Rushville, guys. So let's

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<v Speaker 2>get into it. Let's recap this.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Lanterns, episode six, Bad Optics, we open. In the

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<v Speaker 1>present day, the year is 2026.

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<v Speaker 2>I was loving it. Perfect opening for me. 10 out

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<v Speaker 2>of 10, no notes, fan service all the way up

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<v Speaker 2>and down. Everyone in the Discord is going to know

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be happy about this one. I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the wake of the events of Superman, in

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<v Speaker 1>the wake of the events of Suicide Squad, Jon Stewart

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<v Speaker 1>is pitching the civic leaders of Midway City on basically

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<v Speaker 1>plans to protect the citizenry from alien attack, supervillain invasion

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<v Speaker 1>and the like. Stuart and his brother Marcus have a

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<v Speaker 1>architecture company now. They build safe rooms for like the

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<v Speaker 1>elite rich guys, you know, billionaires, the Bruce Wayans of

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<v Speaker 1>the world. He has his own shit. But, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like that level of person.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuart Brothers. I was texting Joelle. I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to cry. This is so great. How could this

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<v Speaker 2>go wrong? How could it go wrong? And the idea

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<v Speaker 2>is for.

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<v Speaker 1>Midway City specifically, 40 stadium sized panic rooms with their

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<v Speaker 1>own energy systems, with their own water, with food supplies

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<v Speaker 1>to protect the city's population. And one of the civic

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<v Speaker 1>leaders is there, very impressed by John. He's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>very authoritative and, you know, he holds the room really well.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the guys is like, so can we just

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the elephant in the room, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>Green Lantern thing, you being the Green Lantern. And he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I was the Green Lantern for five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>And The guy says, well, listen, very impressed by you.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can pitch Colonel Draycott, who for some reason

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<v Speaker 1>is like the guy holding the federal purse strings for this.

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<v Speaker 1>Military just very involved in federal, in state level planning.

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<v Speaker 1>So which is very interesting in the DCU. And so

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<v Speaker 1>if you can pitch Colonel Draycott the way you pitched us,

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<v Speaker 1>this project is going to get Green, capital G-R-E-E-N.

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<v Speaker 2>Greenlit.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Marcus is there, and Marcus is psyched. This

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<v Speaker 1>is going to happen. This is incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>John, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, can I? I just want to say, this is

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<v Speaker 2>some incredible storytelling. Because when he asks, he says- It's

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<v Speaker 2>a great info dump. Well, also, not only do we

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<v Speaker 2>get to know everything about John, but when the guy

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<v Speaker 2>who's in charge asks, why were you not Green Lantern, right?

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<v Speaker 2>it tells us so much about the status of Green

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<v Speaker 2>Lantern because for a minute, you think he's like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>are they mad he's not Green Lantern? But then you

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<v Speaker 2>quickly also realize that Guy has clearly kind of besmirched

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<v Speaker 2>the name enough that for them, the fact John turned

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<v Speaker 2>it down is actually an appeal. Like there is so

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<v Speaker 2>much implied storytelling here by the fact that they don't

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<v Speaker 2>see that as a dereliction of duty. You definitely get the, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>You definitely get the feeling from the way multiple characters

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<v Speaker 1>in this episode talk about Guy that while Guy has

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<v Speaker 1>like a huge Q rating and everybody knows who Guy

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<v Speaker 1>is and there are cutouts of Guy in the grocery store,

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<v Speaker 1>there is maybe a perception of Guy as not the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest Green Lantern they could have had.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll put it that way. He's a replacement's replacement. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? It seems like they weren't planning

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<v Speaker 2>much past John, and Guy is no John. He's not

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<v Speaker 2>even a Hal.

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<v Speaker 1>So.

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<v Speaker 1>John, who really should set up his phone better, so

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<v Speaker 1>that only.

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<v Speaker 2>Block that shit. Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're gonna go no contact, then go no contact

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<v Speaker 1>and really do it, John. Gets a call from his mom,

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<v Speaker 1>and she is... She's only ever mad.

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<v Speaker 2>She's mad.

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<v Speaker 1>Because apparently it's been perhaps years, certainly months, since the

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<v Speaker 1>last time they actually spoke on the phone. And she

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<v Speaker 1>is like, Hal Jordan wants to apologize. John is confused.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, wait, why are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Why the fuck are you speaking to Hal Jordan? And

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, we were friends. What?

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<v Speaker 2>Since when?

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<v Speaker 1>And we learned that Hal has been, was locked up

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<v Speaker 1>for a period of time. But now that he's out

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently he's living in Rushville. And wants to meet

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<v Speaker 1>John so that he can apologize and he'll be at

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<v Speaker 1>the cafe. And again, John is like very confused, but

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<v Speaker 1>he drives directly from this meeting to the cafe.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let us stop here talking about some suspicions, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you raised this idea last time that maybe there

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<v Speaker 2>were other people on the end of the phone. Jon

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<v Speaker 2>is maybe being controlled by some kind of T-1000 voice controller.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what this feels like to me. Because imagine

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<v Speaker 2>if you were trying to psychologically fuck with Jon Stewart.

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't you basically imply his mom has been sending love letters-

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<v Speaker 2>to Hal. We'll find out later his dad no longer

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<v Speaker 2>lives at home. And they're basically implying that those two

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<v Speaker 2>have become close over a 10 year period. And then

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<v Speaker 2>she says, go to this diner. This man wants to

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<v Speaker 2>apologize to you. It seems sus to me. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>set up.

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<v Speaker 1>So by this point in the episode, I was thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what? Maybe that was wrong because, um, And

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<v Speaker 1>maybe this is just a cost-saving thing where it's like

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<v Speaker 1>they got these actors, didn't want to pay them on-screen rates,

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<v Speaker 1>and so got them for voice actor rates. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's still a world where that's possible. That said, there

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<v Speaker 1>are still too many. There's weird stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And if we're going to get into it straight away

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<v Speaker 2>when they go to the diner, there's a disconnect.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lot of weird things happening. Not

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<v Speaker 1>to mention another thing I noticed from the previous episode

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<v Speaker 1>is when mom calls and is like, they want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you, you know, like, and then John calls

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<v Speaker 1>back at a certain time, like when the town is

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<v Speaker 1>exploding is like, get them on, get her on the whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Now satellite.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>On the satellite. I thought the satellite dish didn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that? Remember previously when we were actually live with

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<v Speaker 1>the parents and she was trying to set up the

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<v Speaker 1>thing and she could never get it to work?

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<v Speaker 2>And also remember they said, that the Guardians never spoke

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<v Speaker 2>to them. That was the big issue was it was

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<v Speaker 2>all done in faith. And now they do? Now allegedly

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<v Speaker 2>they do. I don't know. It is either, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want it to be this. I think we could in

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<v Speaker 2>a couple more episodes start seeing some people talk about

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<v Speaker 2>plot holes if this is not resolved. But if it

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<v Speaker 2>is leading into what you are thinking, I think it

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<v Speaker 2>is a really interesting twist because everyone he speaks to

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<v Speaker 2>on the phone from his family is is just isolating him.

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<v Speaker 2>They're being cruel. They're pushing him away and they're pushing

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<v Speaker 2>him towards this one thing, the ring, how, this mission,

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that Marcus, the one person we see in

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<v Speaker 2>person begs him not to do. He says, don't go

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<v Speaker 2>back to Rushville. Don't do this. Like your life gets

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<v Speaker 2>destroyed there every time. Please stay here. Everyone else is

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<v Speaker 2>telling him the opposite and we never see them.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll say one more thing about what we know

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<v Speaker 1>about this show. We know that in this show you

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<v Speaker 1>can create, and there are, fully sentient AI versions of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>And how does that play further into this? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but it does seem... I continue to be suspicious of

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<v Speaker 1>these phone calls. Let's just put it that way. We

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<v Speaker 1>both do. Okay, so he drives overnight in his....

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<v Speaker 2>Ford Denali.

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<v Speaker 1>Incredible commercial for Ford Denalis.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy. Very Twilight coded.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably bought $ 550 in gas to get there from Midway.

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<v Speaker 2>City to Rushville. Arrives at the cafe. Hal is there

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<v Speaker 2>chowing down. Sits across from Hal.

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<v Speaker 1>Hal's like, what?

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<v Speaker 2>Apology?

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<v Speaker 1>Who? What?

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<v Speaker 2>How's your mom doing?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, John is like, don't fucking to my family,

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<v Speaker 1>don't talk to my mom. We learned that Hal just

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<v Speaker 1>got out of prison semi-recently, maybe this year, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>been out for months, right? He just did 10 years

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<v Speaker 1>in a federal facility.

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<v Speaker 2>And he says.

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<v Speaker 1>He took the prison bid, he took the fall, he

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<v Speaker 1>took the entire responsibility, legally, for what happened in Rushville.

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<v Speaker 2>So why... Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Should he have to apologize for anything? And John is like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't take the fall.

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<v Speaker 2>You fell. You fucked up. You just fell of your

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<v Speaker 2>own accord. Because you wanted to get the ring. You

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to prove yourself. You didn't work together with me,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as we know. They are letting the people

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<v Speaker 2>of Rushville know. But I think John is right on this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry to Hal. Sorry to that man that he

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<v Speaker 2>was in jail for 10 years. That's a crazy twist.

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<v Speaker 2>But come on, guys. Like, move on. But also, can

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about why if I was John... And I

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<v Speaker 2>have to say, John does great detecting. This episode is

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<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite things about the episode. But, like,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm John... And my mom just called me and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this man who's fucked up your whole life wants to apologize.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get that. And the man is like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know nothing about an apology. I would be like, OK,

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<v Speaker 2>so have you been talking to my mom? Have you

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<v Speaker 2>guys been writing each other letters? Like, did you tell

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<v Speaker 2>her I was going to do? I would do a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more, just a little bit more investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>More on that in a bit. So, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Guy Gardner a little bit. And it's clear

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<v Speaker 1>that Hal is not impressed. He refers to him as

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<v Speaker 1>the gym teacher. This will be, as we noted, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a running theme. People not being that impressed with

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<v Speaker 1>Guy Gardner. Hal says, listen, in terms of the people

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<v Speaker 1>that died, you were there with me. We're both responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for all the people that got killed. killed when the

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<v Speaker 1>hammer of dawn from Gears of War lasered the town

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<v Speaker 1>and who knows what else.

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<v Speaker 2>The Christopher Nolan drums began to pound and we knew

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<v Speaker 2>it was all over.

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<v Speaker 1>Hal says he understands why John turned down the ring

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<v Speaker 1>and he says it's because you were scared. Which I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say that I John then slugs him and rightly so.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy thing to say honestly after ten years. Like just

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<v Speaker 2>calm down please.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will say that You know, you ever get

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<v Speaker 1>in a fight with somebody that you're close to that

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<v Speaker 1>you care about and it's like you say something to

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<v Speaker 1>hurt them and you don't even believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>You just know that. You just know it because you

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<v Speaker 2>know them so well.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Yeah. Yeah. This is what Hal did. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Hal does not believe that John was scared. No.

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<v Speaker 1>At all.

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<v Speaker 2>Agree.

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<v Speaker 1>But he just is like, this is the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>will hurt this person's feelings right now. And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>he said it. That's my feeling. I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>John then gets up to leave. And as he's leaving,

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<v Speaker 2>Hal says in a kind of panicked mode. Yeah. Like

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<v Speaker 2>he suddenly is like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a little bit of a panic mode. Don't tell

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<v Speaker 1>anybody you were here. And I'll just say that.

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<v Speaker 2>That that exchange.

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<v Speaker 1>Supports my theory that there is something else that those

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<v Speaker 1>two are hiding. There is some deeper thing, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>they were working together in terms of what happened in

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<v Speaker 1>Rushville to take down the Manhunter, something. There is some

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<v Speaker 1>other secret between these two because John walks away wordlessly,

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<v Speaker 1>but he agrees clearly. And there's something they're protecting, something else.

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<v Speaker 2>John goes home.

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<v Speaker 1>Has a drink.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, God.

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<v Speaker 1>His day is just terrible. It's a terrible day. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not gotten any sleep, really. Sheriff Kerry King calls. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>With the news that Hal Jordan is dead. Uh-oh.

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<v Speaker 1>And we get the scene from the pilot, right? John

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<v Speaker 1>drives over.

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<v Speaker 2>Meets Kerry.

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<v Speaker 1>Snowy football field. Hal is sitting in the stands with

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<v Speaker 1>a hole in his head.

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<v Speaker 2>No ring. Sheriff Kerry says all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Security cameras were off. We don't have any witnesses. Hal's

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<v Speaker 1>nose is broken. So she's like, well, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>whoever broke his nose killed him. And John is like, oh, shit,

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<v Speaker 1>that was me. He puts his hands in his mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, what if?

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<v Speaker 1>But she points out that, listen, everybody here in this

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<v Speaker 1>town fucking hates Hal Jordan. So a lot of suspects, potentially.

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<v Speaker 1>John asks why Hal came back. And it's because Hal...

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<v Speaker 1>As we saw earlier in the series, because kind of

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<v Speaker 1>had a crush on Sheriff Kerry. He came back for me.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, we learned that she and Billy split up

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<v Speaker 1>about three years back. Hal was writing her from prison.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's writing everyone from prison, apparently.

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<v Speaker 2>This man can't get enough.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, listen, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. He's writing, you know, he was really on

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<v Speaker 1>an apology tour in prison and post-prison. And then moved

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<v Speaker 1>there after prison, basically to try and make amends with

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<v Speaker 1>everybody in the town. And we learned that the town

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<v Speaker 1>has really been struggling to like rebuild and pick up

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<v Speaker 1>the pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>No investment from Lex. Zero investment. Or the government, whoever's

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<v Speaker 2>president right now. It doesn't seem like they're doing a

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<v Speaker 2>good job investing in midtown America. Not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody interested in the town. Guy Gardner is like semi-interested

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<v Speaker 1>in the town. In the wake of what happened, he

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<v Speaker 1>put a Green Lantern signal like in the town square

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<v Speaker 1>to be like, hey, if this ever happens again, hit

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<v Speaker 1>that button.

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<v Speaker 2>Call me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be here and I'll fix it without.

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<v Speaker 2>30% of the town dying.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want it. But, you know, it's, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>a nice gesture from him. She gives John the keys

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<v Speaker 1>to Hal's place that he was staying in town, tells

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<v Speaker 1>him to go in the back door. And it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a real ramshackle, like former hotel maybe that got turned

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<v Speaker 1>into apartments. It actually might be the original hotel, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's like fucked up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a mess. Not a man who's bothered about curating

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<v Speaker 2>a vibe. Like no matter what house he lives in,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fucked up, whether it's a rich house or poor

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<v Speaker 2>people house. It doesn't matter. John goes there.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's something in the back room. He picks up a shotgun.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing that he hears is Earl, the plant.

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<v Speaker 1>Earl's very, very hungry. Love to see Earl. Earl's hungry.

0:16:11.510 --> 0:16:14.790
<v Speaker 1>John feeds him, gets a call from his brother, Marcus.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got that pitch meeting with Colonel Draycott. And John

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<v Speaker 1>is like, listen, I'm in Rushville. And I've got to

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<v Speaker 1>take care of some stuff. And.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, why are you there?

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus is like, well, I'm here because Hal Jordan died

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<v Speaker 1>and Earl hears this and just gets very sad. Earl's like, what?

0:16:35.020 --> 0:16:38.140
<v Speaker 2>We learn Earl is fully sentient at that point. Fully,

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<v Speaker 2>fully sentient. And he didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Has been wondering why Hal has not been back and

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<v Speaker 1>Hal has not been back because he's dead. Marcus is like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>are you focused on this meeting with Draycott? Like this

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<v Speaker 1>is a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>You better focus up. I gotta say.

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<v Speaker 1>You being in Rushville is you losing focus.

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<v Speaker 2>We know I can be a Jon Stewart apologist, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really on his side in this case. I

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<v Speaker 2>do understand what he needs to do and I know

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<v Speaker 2>he is doing the right thing. But this stuff with

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus is so well done. You just want to say

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<v Speaker 2>to him, this has changed your life money for your

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<v Speaker 2>whole family. They said, if you get this right, you

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<v Speaker 2>can build whatever you want for the rest of your life. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>do I think that this will come into play in

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<v Speaker 2>Superman that they did not build these? Yes, I do

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<v Speaker 2>think that's going to be a thing. But I also

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<v Speaker 2>think this is a way of, taking Jon Stewart away

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<v Speaker 2>from the military industrial system background again, because he's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to do the thing that he could have done.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we're going to live with the ramifications because

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<v Speaker 2>we know he is going to be in Superman too.

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<v Speaker 2>But I will say James Gunn also said maybe like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's not going to be that many characters in it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel like there'll be ramifications. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>there'll be ramifications.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just say that, like, so my sense is, John

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<v Speaker 1>is doing a lot of the architecting, the engineering work, right?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's got to pitch Drake hot. Like, no offense,

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<v Speaker 1>but Marcus, what are you exactly doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good point. Good point, actually. Let's talk about it, Jason.

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<v Speaker 2>Why can't he do the deck? Wait a minute. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't you just do the deck? Actually, can't John send

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<v Speaker 2>you a deck? What's on your plate, Marcus? Let's take

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<v Speaker 2>a quick break, and when we come back, we'll continue

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<v Speaker 2>the recap.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're back the next day sheriff kerry comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the house former apartment and is like let's get breakfast

0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:51.760
<v Speaker 1>they go to the cafe to get breakfast and maggie

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<v Speaker 1>the counter person is this young um you know whippersnapper

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<v Speaker 1>small town person who clearly wants to leave the small

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<v Speaker 1>town um gives john like this very knowing look she

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<v Speaker 1>saw john arrived to talk to how witness the whole

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<v Speaker 1>exchange witness john punch how in the face and she

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<v Speaker 1>very consciously is being like oh hello sir like i've

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<v Speaker 1>never seen you before in front of sheriff carrie in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that is letting john know i'm covering for

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<v Speaker 1>you yeah and we're going to talk about this later

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<v Speaker 1>um sheriff carrie.

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<v Speaker 2>They're sitting there. Sheriff Kerry is stricken.

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<v Speaker 1>She's very heartbroken by this, but she's trying to hold

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<v Speaker 1>it together because obviously the town hated Hal and she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to show that much. But she says to John,

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<v Speaker 1>ask me what you're thinking. You're thinking I killed how

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<v Speaker 1>just ask me and john's like i you didn't kill

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<v Speaker 1>how it's fine like i i i don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>killed him um sheriff carrie gets a call from the

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<v Speaker 1>me and it's the autopsy and john's like i'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the autopsy i love autopsy i'm big

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<v Speaker 1>on those like can i go And she's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't because you're not law enforcement. He's like, deputize me.

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<v Speaker 1>So she deputizes him and they go.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotta say, this is actually, to me, the first episode

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<v Speaker 2>and the first interactions that truly live up to that

0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:25.010
<v Speaker 2>kind of true detective tone that they were promising. That

0:20:25.109 --> 0:20:29.889
<v Speaker 2>scene where she deputizes him is so fucking funny and

0:20:30.230 --> 0:20:34.160
<v Speaker 2>bleak and realistic and just like this kind of hopeless

0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:38.939
<v Speaker 2>ridiculousness between these two grieving people. It really hit for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is such a great sequence. So is

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<v Speaker 2>the Emmy sequence too. Like when they get in that morgue,

0:20:44.310 --> 0:20:47.740
<v Speaker 2>that's another true detective type scene. I completely agree.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the morgue, Emmy is just talking wild shit

0:20:52.570 --> 0:20:55.950
<v Speaker 1>about Hal Jordan, who is deceased, who was murdered.

0:20:55.970 --> 0:21:00.090
<v Speaker 2>But she's like, fuck this guy. Fuck him. Piece of shit.

0:21:00.170 --> 0:21:04.489
<v Speaker 1>Glad he's dead. Hate you also, Jon Stewart. You also

0:21:04.540 --> 0:21:05.419
<v Speaker 1>a piece of shit.

0:21:05.859 --> 0:21:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, Sheriff Curry.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you guys were close, but I hate this

0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:13.500
<v Speaker 1>fucking guy. And if he was alive and on fire,

0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:15.439
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't piss on him to put him out. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of glad he's dead. Um, here's the verdict

0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:22.100
<v Speaker 1>on how it's exactly what it was. It looks like

0:21:22.180 --> 0:21:24.919
<v Speaker 1>he was shot in the head, close range from the front.

0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:29.060
<v Speaker 1>So whoever did it looked him right in his eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>And apparently there was no struggle at all. The busted nose.

0:21:34.109 --> 0:21:36.950
<v Speaker 1>He just took that hit no scrapes on his knuckles.

0:21:36.990 --> 0:21:40.070
<v Speaker 1>So he didn't fight back or anything. He just sat

0:21:40.109 --> 0:21:42.910
<v Speaker 1>there and got shot in the head. It's a complete mystery.

0:21:44.230 --> 0:21:44.770
<v Speaker 2>What about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Nose? Sheriff Kerry says, do you think we might be

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<v Speaker 1>able to get DNA or something? Maybe the person who

0:21:50.290 --> 0:21:52.990
<v Speaker 1>punched him, like the knuckles get scraped and there's like

0:21:53.109 --> 0:21:56.830
<v Speaker 1>skin or, or blood from the attacker, like on the nose.

0:21:57.450 --> 0:21:59.630
<v Speaker 1>And the Emmy's like, yes, I sent the swabs to

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<v Speaker 1>the feds and we should have.

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<v Speaker 2>A result on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like in 300 years or whatever, when the feds fucking

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<v Speaker 1>get around it, they don't.

0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:05.660
<v Speaker 2>Give a shit.

0:22:06.420 --> 0:22:08.840
<v Speaker 1>And, but John is nervous is actually like a little

0:22:08.859 --> 0:22:10.720
<v Speaker 1>nervous about it. He put his hands in his pocket.

0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:14.540
<v Speaker 1>It's good acting here. Yeah. Aaron Pierre, wordless acting. Um,

0:22:16.260 --> 0:22:22.260
<v Speaker 1>Sheriff Carey is like, listen, this guy was a former superhero. No,

0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:26.240
<v Speaker 1>just the Justice League does not exist. But like, you know,

0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:29.879
<v Speaker 1>was one of that group of humans and is very famous.

0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:34.439
<v Speaker 2>And so a version of it is existing somewhere, somewhere.

0:22:34.460 --> 0:22:39.000
<v Speaker 1>But Hal might have been pre Justice League International, whatever

0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:39.600
<v Speaker 1>that group is.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff Carey is like, listen, this guy is super famous,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know. please don't file the death report now.

0:22:51.510 --> 0:22:53.090
<v Speaker 2>She said four months!

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<v Speaker 1>Four months is fucking crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Calm down, Carrie. That's some Gotham shit. You can't pay

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<v Speaker 2>someone off here for four months, babe.

0:23:01.369 --> 0:23:04.649
<v Speaker 1>Four months is fucking crazy, okay? But she makes a

0:23:04.670 --> 0:23:06.800
<v Speaker 1>good point that it's going to be headline news all

0:23:06.820 --> 0:23:12.379
<v Speaker 1>around the world when people realize that he's dead. It's

0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:15.899
<v Speaker 1>actually nuts that nobody knows he's dead yet. You're telling

0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:21.920
<v Speaker 1>me that Lex Luthor doesn't know.

0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:25.160
<v Speaker 2>That he's dead. No tracking? No drones?

0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:29.480
<v Speaker 1>You're telling me Amanda Waller hasn't gotten, like, inklings? Anyway,

0:23:30.410 --> 0:23:33.570
<v Speaker 1>nobody knows. So please just, like, wait a while. And

0:23:33.590 --> 0:23:36.129
<v Speaker 1>the Emmy's like, four months is crazy, but we'll do Monday.

0:23:36.810 --> 0:23:43.580
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you the weekend. They go, she gives, you know,

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Sheriff Kerry the contents of Hal's pockets and And one

0:23:48.060 --> 0:23:50.100
<v Speaker 1>of the things is a bird keychain.

0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:52.540
<v Speaker 2>Very emotional. I thought that was very cute.

0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:52.820
<v Speaker 1>Nod.

0:23:52.859 --> 0:23:55.899
<v Speaker 2>I thought that was very cute. Warmed my heart. I

0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 2>thought that was very cute. To a place called the

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<v Speaker 2>Fortress of Storage.

0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:04.910
<v Speaker 1>So they go over there. And in Hal's storage locker

0:24:05.230 --> 0:24:12.030
<v Speaker 1>is his guardian vault with a voice print identifier. Hello,

0:24:12.070 --> 0:24:14.369
<v Speaker 1>Hal Jordan. You know, identify. This belongs to Hal Jordan.

0:24:14.390 --> 0:24:19.409
<v Speaker 1>Identify yourself. And so they try to use a voicemail.

0:24:19.470 --> 0:24:22.340
<v Speaker 1>Sheriff Kerry pulls up a voicemail, and it's Hal giving

0:24:22.420 --> 0:24:26.620
<v Speaker 1>her the nickname Buttercup. And it doesn't work. The vault

0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 1>is like, that's a recording. Shut the fuck up.

0:24:29.859 --> 0:24:30.540
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, come on.

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Hal has to be here live speaking the password and

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<v Speaker 1>his name or whatever it is. Don't try that shit again.

0:24:37.790 --> 0:24:42.570
<v Speaker 2>This is your one and only warning. They leave. Sheriff

0:24:42.590 --> 0:24:45.070
<v Speaker 2>Kerry is like, why don't you come to dinner later?

0:24:45.619 --> 0:24:48.740
<v Speaker 1>Meet Noah. It'll be fun. And then John, like, is

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 1>it almost as an afterthought, but clearly he's been doing,

0:24:51.619 --> 0:24:52.500
<v Speaker 1>this is strategic.

0:24:52.940 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 2>He's like, you know what? I also have a, a thought.

0:24:56.580 --> 0:25:00.940
<v Speaker 1>Let's, they want to, you know, the Emmy wants to, um,

0:25:02.260 --> 0:25:02.580
<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Like cremate how, cause he has no family. Yeah.

0:25:05.260 --> 0:25:09.439
<v Speaker 1>Cremate how, why not? Let's bury him. He's, uh, you know,

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:13.020
<v Speaker 1>he was the earth's first green lantern, met a human,

0:25:13.100 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>did a lot of heroic things. The big deal.

0:25:15.700 --> 0:25:20.070
<v Speaker 2>Like, let's bury him. Also appealing to emotional connection to him.

0:25:20.220 --> 0:25:23.770
<v Speaker 2>And I do think it's 50% because he doesn't want

0:25:23.810 --> 0:25:25.470
<v Speaker 2>to think of him just getting burned up and like

0:25:25.510 --> 0:25:28.450
<v Speaker 2>thrown down the river or whatever, down the toilet, as

0:25:28.490 --> 0:25:30.970
<v Speaker 2>the Emmy says. But I do think you're right. I

0:25:31.010 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 2>think there is a strategic angle here, as we will see,

0:25:33.619 --> 0:25:34.340
<v Speaker 2>which will play out.

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:37.580
<v Speaker 2>So she agrees.

0:25:37.700 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I can pull some strings with the church

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:42.880
<v Speaker 1>and with the cemetery and we'll see.

0:25:42.900 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 2>They split up.

0:25:45.010 --> 0:25:47.609
<v Speaker 1>John gets a call. And again, he's got to block

0:25:47.630 --> 0:25:50.710
<v Speaker 1>these numbers. He gets a call from Comfort Cove, the

0:25:51.650 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 1>facility where... Kind of senior facility or some sort of.

0:25:54.730 --> 0:26:01.940
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Some sort of home for people who maybe have

0:26:02.260 --> 0:26:03.480
<v Speaker 2>ongoing health issues.

0:26:03.500 --> 0:26:08.900
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And it's about John's dad. And apparently the dad

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:12.619
<v Speaker 1>is very agitated because things aren't the way he wants them.

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:16.660
<v Speaker 1>And he's still... holding onto the trauma of the Green

0:26:16.700 --> 0:26:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Lantern call and that original event and all the things

0:26:20.100 --> 0:26:24.740
<v Speaker 1>that unfolded afterwards. And, um, John is like, I don't

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:27.300
<v Speaker 1>want to talk to him. It's clear he's gotten no contact.

0:26:27.380 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 1>And the person on the phone who from Comfort Cove

0:26:30.100 --> 0:26:32.990
<v Speaker 1>is like, well, listen, somebody's got to deal with this.

0:26:33.510 --> 0:26:35.010
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, well, not me. And he hangs up

0:26:35.730 --> 0:26:37.330
<v Speaker 1>and he's in the grocery store at the time. And

0:26:37.369 --> 0:26:40.610
<v Speaker 1>he sees that full life-size cutout of Guy Gardner, Hawking,

0:26:40.850 --> 0:26:44.810
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, Gatorade or something. Um, John then drives

0:26:44.869 --> 0:26:48.409
<v Speaker 1>to the town square, sees the lantern signal, and presses

0:26:48.470 --> 0:26:50.470
<v Speaker 1>the button to summon Guy Gardner.

0:26:51.390 --> 0:26:54.230
<v Speaker 2>Crazy move, honestly, sir, when you destroyed this town as

0:26:54.270 --> 0:26:56.100
<v Speaker 2>the Green Lantern. But I get it. You've got to

0:26:56.130 --> 0:26:58.720
<v Speaker 2>contact your man. He doesn't have a Justice League email,

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:02.500
<v Speaker 2>I guess. Sure. Justice gang haven't got their emails going.

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:07.600
<v Speaker 1>So shoots a light up to the clouds Batman bat

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:08.020
<v Speaker 1>signal style.

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.500
<v Speaker 2>It's a bat signal, which I have to say. I

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 2>got to say something. You're low tech. Also, a little

0:27:13.180 --> 0:27:17.340
<v Speaker 2>presumptuous by James Gunn to include a green lantern symbol

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:19.570
<v Speaker 2>when you don't have a Batman. That is a bat

0:27:19.609 --> 0:27:24.150
<v Speaker 2>signal first, my guy. It's a nice implication that Wayne

0:27:24.950 --> 0:27:27.570
<v Speaker 2>maybe made them, but we still need to know and

0:27:27.630 --> 0:27:29.950
<v Speaker 2>see that man. I like that reading.

0:27:30.010 --> 0:27:31.810
<v Speaker 1>I took it a different way. I took it as

0:27:32.130 --> 0:27:35.510
<v Speaker 1>another reason people don't like Guy Gardner. He just rips

0:27:35.570 --> 0:27:36.330
<v Speaker 1>off the bat signal.

0:27:36.609 --> 0:27:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh my God, that's so good. People are like, this

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 2>guy's so corny, he can't even come.

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:41.639
<v Speaker 1>Up with those shit.

0:27:41.660 --> 0:27:44.170
<v Speaker 2>I know, he's a fucking corny motherfucker. Okay, that's good.

0:27:44.210 --> 0:27:44.970
<v Speaker 2>I like that too.

0:27:46.410 --> 0:27:50.430
<v Speaker 1>So seconds after he turns on the signal.

0:27:50.830 --> 0:27:54.149
<v Speaker 2>They're waiting. This is the hangout. Yeah, that's true. A

0:27:54.190 --> 0:27:56.950
<v Speaker 2>bunch of like four guys.

0:27:56.530 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Who look just like the ex-militia guys dressed in the

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:01.790
<v Speaker 1>same way with the ball caps and the. vests and

0:28:01.810 --> 0:28:04.250
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing and the kind of Western gear where,

0:28:04.290 --> 0:28:05.129
<v Speaker 1>and they come out and they're like.

0:28:05.170 --> 0:28:06.290
<v Speaker 2>What the fuck are you doing?

0:28:07.030 --> 0:28:10.980
<v Speaker 1>Oh my God, it's Jon Stewart. And then Billy, Carrie's ex,

0:28:11.540 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 1>shows father of Noah looking like he's been following in

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 1>his dad's footsteps. He's got the beard goatee now. He's

0:28:18.980 --> 0:28:22.159
<v Speaker 1>not clean shaven. Like he's looking a little haggard and

0:28:22.820 --> 0:28:25.810
<v Speaker 1>he shows up and he's like, what the, what are

0:28:25.850 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 1>you fucking doing? You turn that off, Jon Stewart, which

0:28:29.780 --> 0:28:30.719
<v Speaker 1>why can't they.

0:28:30.590 --> 0:28:32.790
<v Speaker 2>Turn it off? Okay, no, no, no, no. So I

0:28:32.830 --> 0:28:35.530
<v Speaker 2>do want to say something, right? They can turn it off.

0:28:35.630 --> 0:28:38.100
<v Speaker 2>They're just trying to be tough. There is a great

0:28:38.210 --> 0:28:40.820
<v Speaker 2>note here. And part of the reason they are so upset, again,

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 2>fuck Guy Gardner, he put it next to the memorial

0:28:44.260 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 2>for the town. So it's the memorial for all the dead.

0:28:47.300 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 2>And next to it is the Green Lantern symbol. They're

0:28:49.780 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 2>just telling John to turn it off because they want

0:28:51.660 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 2>to fight. And because there's like six of them, they

0:28:54.420 --> 0:28:56.350
<v Speaker 2>think they've got a chance, but they don't know John

0:28:56.390 --> 0:28:59.130
<v Speaker 2>was juiced up with the alien blood and he's a Marine.

0:28:59.530 --> 0:29:01.050
<v Speaker 2>So he just fucking smokes them.

0:29:02.310 --> 0:29:03.830
<v Speaker 1>So I was going to say, maybe it is like

0:29:03.870 --> 0:29:06.030
<v Speaker 1>a security feature, which would be smart as like the

0:29:06.050 --> 0:29:07.090
<v Speaker 1>person who turned it on.

0:29:07.250 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Only the person who turned it on can turn it off.

0:29:09.170 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 2>In case like a person in distress called it and

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 2>somebody who was attacking them turned it off. That's smart. Okay.

0:29:16.020 --> 0:29:20.380
<v Speaker 1>So Billy and the guys attack John and John is

0:29:20.460 --> 0:29:24.820
<v Speaker 1>clearly Manhunter blood juiced and he takes them out now.

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 2>But here's my issue, Rosie.

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:30.810
<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't a lot of people in this town be Manhunter

0:29:30.890 --> 0:29:31.530
<v Speaker 1>blood juice?

0:29:31.650 --> 0:29:34.550
<v Speaker 2>Right? That's, I don't know that. Okay, no, no, no, no, no.

0:29:35.030 --> 0:29:36.850
<v Speaker 2>I guess, yeah, because nobody gets sick.

0:29:37.550 --> 0:29:37.850
<v Speaker 1>Huh.

0:29:38.730 --> 0:29:43.820
<v Speaker 2>That's an interesting point. but maybe not anymore. Maybe that's why...

0:29:43.820 --> 0:29:46.820
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they... Because remember... it's not that she was going

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 2>up to everyone and just putting her juice in the eye.

0:29:49.260 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 2>That's not what we understand. What we understand is since

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 2>she came, she basically manipulated the crops and kind of X-Men,

0:29:56.540 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 2>like to get the mutant gene out, she got the

0:29:58.420 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 2>sick gene out through like, you know, crops, clean water,

0:30:01.750 --> 0:30:06.210
<v Speaker 2>whatever else. Some maha. Yeah, some kind of, you know,

0:30:06.250 --> 0:30:09.590
<v Speaker 2>she's not, no vaccines in that town. No vaccines. No

0:30:09.610 --> 0:30:13.730
<v Speaker 2>vaccines in that town. No processed foods. I think if

0:30:13.770 --> 0:30:17.190
<v Speaker 2>they were slightly juiced, They ain't anymore. And also as well,

0:30:17.210 --> 0:30:20.630
<v Speaker 2>Jon Stewart is like a trained man. We saw how

0:30:20.690 --> 0:30:23.590
<v Speaker 2>bad that military was. The militia was in episode five.

0:30:23.630 --> 0:30:25.650
<v Speaker 2>They flopped. They did not have the juice when it

0:30:25.690 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 2>came to the invasion. She did not train them. Absolutely flopped.

0:30:28.820 --> 0:30:30.459
<v Speaker 2>It might also be that there is, you.

0:30:32.580 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Know, Sinestro said that there's something dangerous about Jon Stewart.

0:30:36.020 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>And he did manifest that bird. And it was alive,

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, outside of the radius of the ring.

0:30:44.300 --> 0:30:44.700
<v Speaker 2>That's true.

0:30:45.470 --> 0:30:50.570
<v Speaker 1>And so there might be something extra about Jon Stewart.

0:30:50.590 --> 0:30:54.210
<v Speaker 1>A little juice. More juice to add to the Manhunter

0:30:54.290 --> 0:30:55.750
<v Speaker 1>juice that makes him super juiced.

0:30:56.410 --> 0:30:59.390
<v Speaker 2>That might be the case. But certainly he's juiced in.

0:30:59.370 --> 0:31:02.620
<v Speaker 1>Some fashion because he just absolutely washes these guys easily.

0:31:02.670 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 2>And then, can I just say, still goes to the

0:31:04.940 --> 0:31:07.820
<v Speaker 2>dinner with this man's ex-wife. Bruv, just don't go. Like,

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:11.500
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. That's so disrespectful. It's going to end badly

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.340
<v Speaker 2>for you. Like, at least tell her. At least tell her.

0:31:14.780 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Here's how juiced, though, he is. He gets in a

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 1>fight with five guys, destroys them, and then is able

0:31:22.340 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>to go to a dinner where the people at the

0:31:24.860 --> 0:31:27.460
<v Speaker 1>dinner have no idea that he fought five guys because

0:31:27.500 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 1>he's got no marks on him or anything.

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:33.860
<v Speaker 2>That's how juiced this guy is. So Carrie at.

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 1>The dinner is, she thinks the whole panic room, she

0:31:38.660 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>thinks basically Stewart.

0:31:40.140 --> 0:31:41.780
<v Speaker 2>Brothers' business model is stupid.

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>She thinks it's dumb. she's like, let me get this straight.

0:31:46.060 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>You build these panic rooms, then you want to build

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 1>a panic room the size of a stadium.

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:50.460
<v Speaker 2>That's never going to work.

0:31:50.500 --> 0:31:53.020
<v Speaker 1>And John's like, listen, it's not about it working actually,

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:54.420
<v Speaker 1>but of course they do work.

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It's about the peace of.

0:31:56.480 --> 0:32:00.820
<v Speaker 1>Mind that it gives to people knowing that it's there. Okay.

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 2>And I have to say again, I do think there

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:06.219
<v Speaker 2>is some real potential for them to be setting up

0:32:06.540 --> 0:32:08.900
<v Speaker 2>kind of like how, look, I have to say, this

0:32:08.980 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 2>is not necessarily a complimentary thing, when you compare with

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:15.380
<v Speaker 2>how well it was done in that, in my opinion.

0:32:15.740 --> 0:32:18.740
<v Speaker 2>But it does feel to me like John and the

0:32:19.100 --> 0:32:22.070
<v Speaker 2>stadiums and the panic room, like it feels like they're

0:32:22.110 --> 0:32:25.130
<v Speaker 2>really seeding this kind of idea of like, is it safe?

0:32:25.210 --> 0:32:27.910
<v Speaker 2>Would it just be elitist? it feels like it's going

0:32:27.990 --> 0:32:31.650
<v Speaker 2>somewhere bigger because Carrie's opposition is giving kind of the

0:32:31.730 --> 0:32:34.990
<v Speaker 2>Jean Grey conversation with the mutant inhibitor, right? Like there's

0:32:35.070 --> 0:32:38.070
<v Speaker 2>something here that feels like it's building. And if we

0:32:38.090 --> 0:32:41.250
<v Speaker 2>think about Lex's metropolis, you could, I mean, doesn't he

0:32:41.310 --> 0:32:43.830
<v Speaker 2>already kind of have this in his little prison world?

0:32:43.910 --> 0:32:46.370
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that what he has down there? I'm very interested.

0:32:46.390 --> 0:32:49.870
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was intriguing. And John also like, got

0:32:49.890 --> 0:32:54.050
<v Speaker 2>to say classic, this John, not particularly passionate about the project.

0:32:54.070 --> 0:32:56.070
<v Speaker 2>He's just like, Yeah, as long as rich people think

0:32:56.130 --> 0:32:57.730
<v Speaker 2>it works, we'll make our money.

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>The money is good. More on this in a bit.

0:33:01.650 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 1>So we learn that Noah is a very ambitious kid.

0:33:05.420 --> 0:33:08.140
<v Speaker 2>He wants to be the president. He wants to be

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 2>a president.

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:10.780
<v Speaker 1>He wants to be a senator. He's got his pick

0:33:10.900 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 1>of elite schools right now. And where is he going

0:33:13.740 --> 0:33:14.140
<v Speaker 1>to go?

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Manhunter.

0:33:16.220 --> 0:33:16.540
<v Speaker 1>Maybe.

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 2>He's juiced. Clearly juiced. Brain juiced. Brain juiced. And also,

0:33:22.620 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 2>can I say... Everyone in town hates him and is

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:27.930
<v Speaker 2>hella resentful and drives past him and is like, where

0:33:27.950 --> 0:33:30.390
<v Speaker 2>are you going to go, superstar? Which makes me think

0:33:30.950 --> 0:33:36.250
<v Speaker 2>if those people had been raised to protect Zoe and

0:33:36.270 --> 0:33:39.300
<v Speaker 2>the Manhunter, if Noah is that and they're trying to

0:33:39.380 --> 0:33:41.780
<v Speaker 2>seed him into some kind of position of power, if

0:33:41.820 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 2>you were a young person in that town and your

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:45.940
<v Speaker 2>town's destroyed and now you've got to fucking dedicate your

0:33:45.980 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 2>life to this new alien, you're going to be pissed, right?

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you mentioned that because did you notice the parallels?

0:33:53.420 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 1>John's brothers, his family, treat him the exact way that

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 1>the town treats Noah, which.

0:33:58.380 --> 0:34:03.430
<v Speaker 2>Is you get everything. They call John the chosen. Everything

0:34:03.470 --> 0:34:04.990
<v Speaker 2>was for you, Mr. Special.

0:34:05.790 --> 0:34:09.230
<v Speaker 1>And so that's notable to me that those two figures

0:34:09.290 --> 0:34:13.850
<v Speaker 1>are treated in a very similar way. Carrie gets a call, answers,

0:34:14.110 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 1>and it's clearly a very serious call. She sends Noah

0:34:17.300 --> 0:34:20.250
<v Speaker 1>to his room and she's like, why don't you tell

0:34:20.290 --> 0:34:22.610
<v Speaker 1>me that you beat up my ex-husband and four of

0:34:22.690 --> 0:34:23.650
<v Speaker 1>his militia friends?

0:34:23.950 --> 0:34:26.350
<v Speaker 2>And John's like, you beat up my dad! Like, off camera,

0:34:26.370 --> 0:34:30.890
<v Speaker 2>you beat up my dad! And John is like, well,

0:34:32.250 --> 0:34:32.670
<v Speaker 2>they attacked me.

0:34:32.690 --> 0:34:34.549
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I had to, you know, like, I

0:34:34.890 --> 0:34:37.620
<v Speaker 1>wanted to come to dinner. She locks him up, both

0:34:37.700 --> 0:34:40.819
<v Speaker 1>for his protection and because it would look, you know,

0:34:40.860 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 1>it would look bad in the town also if she

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:43.870
<v Speaker 1>didn't do it, but she should do it.

0:34:44.660 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 2>She locks him up.

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Clearly, John was kind of thinking this would happen because

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:52.760
<v Speaker 1>he says listen you're gonna lock me up anyway whether

0:34:52.820 --> 0:34:59.390
<v Speaker 1>i told you exactly so she leaves john who seems

0:34:59.430 --> 0:35:01.489
<v Speaker 1>to like know he knows a lot of the people

0:35:01.530 --> 0:35:04.350
<v Speaker 1>in the town he knows the um the bail the

0:35:04.430 --> 0:35:07.850
<v Speaker 1>sheriff or deputy and he's like hey let me get

0:35:07.870 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 1>my call lopez let me get my call He gets

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:10.580
<v Speaker 1>his call.

0:35:10.660 --> 0:35:11.440
<v Speaker 2>He calls Marcus.

0:35:11.540 --> 0:35:13.540
<v Speaker 1>For bail money, Marcus is like, what the fuck is

0:35:13.580 --> 0:35:13.910
<v Speaker 1>going on?

0:35:13.940 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Marcus is having, look, you are right. I'm not going

0:35:17.060 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 2>to lie. Marcus needs to take a little bit more

0:35:18.900 --> 0:35:23.290
<v Speaker 2>responsibility on things, right? I cannot deny. But I also

0:35:23.330 --> 0:35:26.469
<v Speaker 2>can imagine that Marcus is so stressed 10 years of

0:35:26.650 --> 0:35:30.029
<v Speaker 2>none of this. 10 years of no Green Lantern, no Nonsense,

0:35:30.370 --> 0:35:34.549
<v Speaker 2>no Chosen One. And suddenly, the day before, this motherfucker

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:37.980
<v Speaker 2>is in jail calling you for $ 1, 000 bail money. Like,

0:35:38.020 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 2>come on. Also, Marcus, just pay it because you guys

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:42.319
<v Speaker 2>have been making millions. This is like a.

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:43.140
<v Speaker 1>Drop in the ocean.

0:35:43.180 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Don't worry about it.

0:35:45.340 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>The next day, John wakes up and it's Guy Gardner

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:54.410
<v Speaker 1>sitting outside the jail cell throwing like... glowy green light

0:35:54.610 --> 0:35:59.830
<v Speaker 1>on john and it's clear that they there's a previous

0:36:00.030 --> 0:36:02.770
<v Speaker 1>relationship there they know each other pretty well like they're

0:36:03.050 --> 0:36:07.509
<v Speaker 1>talking to each other using almost nicknames hey stewart you

0:36:07.530 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>know hey gardner uh they they guy talks about the

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:14.319
<v Speaker 1>time that he first met hal also in a cell

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 1>he's like isn't that crazy you know like like he

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:20.980
<v Speaker 1>was in the federal apparently hal was in a kind.

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:26.110
<v Speaker 2>Of like federal facility, like a soft facility. Notable, right?

0:36:26.250 --> 0:36:28.069
<v Speaker 2>And again, we know how this show has been trying

0:36:28.090 --> 0:36:30.830
<v Speaker 2>to have these conversations, but I do think it's notable

0:36:30.870 --> 0:36:32.529
<v Speaker 2>here that Hal came out of prison and was like,

0:36:32.690 --> 0:36:35.330
<v Speaker 2>I did the bid, I did it. And then Guy

0:36:35.350 --> 0:36:37.890
<v Speaker 2>Gardner comes and was like, he's in fucking blue collar

0:36:37.930 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 2>vacation jail. He's on fucking terminal Island, like sun tanning. Actually,

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:46.439
<v Speaker 2>and you're here in this fucking shithole tiny jail. What's

0:36:46.500 --> 0:36:49.700
<v Speaker 2>that about? Another interesting bit of dialogue that tells us

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot about how these people are perceived in the world.

0:36:53.739 --> 0:36:59.379
<v Speaker 1>The relationship dynamics between John and Guy are fascinating. So

0:36:59.820 --> 0:37:02.799
<v Speaker 1>John tells Guy that Hal is dead and Guy is

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:03.880
<v Speaker 1>absolutely shocked.

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:06.959
<v Speaker 2>But he pretty immediately says, but listen.

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:10.510
<v Speaker 1>I can't help you with the case because it just

0:37:10.530 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 1>would look bad. Why it would look bad is, we

0:37:13.700 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 1>can try and unpack that later in the conversation, but

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 1>he's like, it's just bad optics if I get involved

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:20.319
<v Speaker 1>in this. I can't get involved in this. John's like,

0:37:20.380 --> 0:37:22.140
<v Speaker 1>I don't need your help. That's not why I called. Yeah,

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:22.979
<v Speaker 1>you're useless.

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:24.420
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're useless anyway.

0:37:24.580 --> 0:37:28.180
<v Speaker 1>I called because Hal should have a funeral. He's the

0:37:28.580 --> 0:37:30.980
<v Speaker 1>Earth's first Green Lantern. Give me a break.

0:37:31.020 --> 0:37:31.700
<v Speaker 2>He's a legend.

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Whatever we think of him, he's a legend. He needs

0:37:34.620 --> 0:37:37.259
<v Speaker 1>to be buried in his uniform with his fucking ring on.

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:42.299
<v Speaker 2>This man is so deep. I got to say, like,

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:46.700
<v Speaker 2>I do believe again, 50% he believes this. 50% this

0:37:46.739 --> 0:37:49.779
<v Speaker 2>man is a grave digger planning to be digging up

0:37:49.820 --> 0:37:50.220
<v Speaker 2>that grave.

0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:50.890
<v Speaker 1>I think it's both.

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:55.509
<v Speaker 3>I think he agrees with what he's saying, but it's

0:37:55.530 --> 0:37:58.710
<v Speaker 3>a plan. When I rewatched the episode, I was like, okay,

0:37:58.750 --> 0:38:01.189
<v Speaker 3>this is so nefarious when you know how it ends.

0:38:02.100 --> 0:38:06.260
<v Speaker 1>So we learn here some very important information that the

0:38:06.580 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Guardians forged a new ring for Guy and that Hal's

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:13.180
<v Speaker 1>ring got decommissioned and it's up at Oa along with

0:38:13.219 --> 0:38:15.700
<v Speaker 1>his uniform and all this stuff. And Guy is like,

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:18.670
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to fly up there and get it because

0:38:18.730 --> 0:38:21.350
<v Speaker 1>he feels like the Guardians are going to be mad

0:38:21.410 --> 0:38:24.650
<v Speaker 1>at him. There's something there that he just doesn't want

0:38:24.690 --> 0:38:26.609
<v Speaker 1>the Guardians to know he did that and it would

0:38:26.650 --> 0:38:27.450
<v Speaker 1>look bad.

0:38:27.469 --> 0:38:30.450
<v Speaker 2>I also want to say, thinking of this, right? You're

0:38:30.469 --> 0:38:34.230
<v Speaker 2>the Guardians. You had all the issues, hypothetically, these issues

0:38:34.270 --> 0:38:37.430
<v Speaker 2>with Jon Stewart and Hal and all the drama you

0:38:37.450 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 2>have to clean up after Lyanna. And also we remember,

0:38:41.900 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 2>and this was a conscientious moment. I think a lot

0:38:44.540 --> 0:38:46.779
<v Speaker 2>of people didn't clock what you clocked, Jason, when you

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:50.340
<v Speaker 2>did your recap. But remember, Hal was able to chip

0:38:50.910 --> 0:38:53.270
<v Speaker 2>the control thing off his ring so that the AI

0:38:53.310 --> 0:38:56.330
<v Speaker 2>could stay out, right? Like Hal's ring had a freedom

0:38:56.410 --> 0:38:58.609
<v Speaker 2>to it. There's something about it that was, I think,

0:38:59.370 --> 0:39:03.390
<v Speaker 2>more directly connected. First Earth Lantern. It seems like Guy

0:39:03.430 --> 0:39:06.089
<v Speaker 2>is on a leash. They probably can track his ring

0:39:06.140 --> 0:39:09.860
<v Speaker 2>in a way they couldn't. They can probably throttle the power.

0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:12.500
<v Speaker 2>There are probably certain things he can and can't do.

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:16.620
<v Speaker 2>I think they have probably learned after the Hal-John situation,

0:39:16.660 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 2>but that is why John is very smart to try

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:21.339
<v Speaker 2>and get Hal's ring back into play. I mean, to

0:39:21.390 --> 0:39:25.090
<v Speaker 2>your point, the Guardians.

0:39:26.730 --> 0:39:29.070
<v Speaker 1>Had a concern with Hal that he was too involved

0:39:29.130 --> 0:39:31.109
<v Speaker 1>in Earth stuff, and this is a comics thing too

0:39:31.180 --> 0:39:33.980
<v Speaker 1>where the guardians are like you're you've got a whole

0:39:34.060 --> 0:39:36.839
<v Speaker 1>sector of space that you should be patrolling and you're

0:39:36.860 --> 0:39:39.700
<v Speaker 1>just too involved in yeah in the internal earth politics

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:42.800
<v Speaker 1>so i think part of what guy is concerned about

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:45.430
<v Speaker 1>is like if i get involved in this Now I'm

0:39:45.489 --> 0:39:47.330
<v Speaker 1>doing the thing that Hal did, which is getting too

0:39:47.390 --> 0:39:49.989
<v Speaker 1>involved in Earth politics. And like, I've got space and

0:39:50.030 --> 0:39:53.910
<v Speaker 1>stuff to deal with. So Hal, John is like, listen,

0:39:53.930 --> 0:39:56.450
<v Speaker 1>you fucking owe me. Because if I hadn't passed on

0:39:56.469 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 1>the ring, you wouldn't have it.

0:39:58.090 --> 0:40:02.049
<v Speaker 2>You're my backup. Yeah, he says, he says, everything you

0:40:02.130 --> 0:40:06.420
<v Speaker 2>have is because I turned it down. And I was like, yes,

0:40:06.580 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 2>tell him that shit, man. That was so good. And fuck,

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 2>you know what I like about it? Great character moment.

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:17.410
<v Speaker 2>Guy's arrogance falls. In that moment, Guy knows that he folds. Yeah,

0:40:17.430 --> 0:40:18.770
<v Speaker 2>he folds.

0:40:18.810 --> 0:40:22.750
<v Speaker 1>And what I took from this was, if Jon changed

0:40:22.790 --> 0:40:24.569
<v Speaker 1>his mind, he could get the ring.

0:40:24.890 --> 0:40:27.319
<v Speaker 2>The Guardians will give it back to him, clearly. And also,

0:40:28.219 --> 0:40:33.890
<v Speaker 2>does Guy know... what the Guardians told Jon to do

0:40:33.910 --> 0:40:37.370
<v Speaker 2>with Hal, because technically doesn't that mean Jon could literally

0:40:37.410 --> 0:40:40.110
<v Speaker 2>just take it back and they'd probably be fine with it?

0:40:40.590 --> 0:40:43.089
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't even need to ask them. You know, like

0:40:43.190 --> 0:40:44.830
<v Speaker 2>they wanted him to steal it from Hal. If he

0:40:44.870 --> 0:40:47.310
<v Speaker 2>took Guy's ring, they probably wouldn't argue.

0:40:48.610 --> 0:40:52.589
<v Speaker 1>So other important news that Guy brings is that some

0:40:52.910 --> 0:40:57.130
<v Speaker 1>time in the past, past year, past few months, we

0:40:57.170 --> 0:41:03.259
<v Speaker 1>don't exactly know, someone busted Sinestro Out of space jails, Spasskaban,

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:05.110
<v Speaker 1>as Guy calls it.

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:07.580
<v Speaker 2>Rude.

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:10.819
<v Speaker 1>The main suspect would have been Jordan, except he was

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.710
<v Speaker 1>in jail at the time. So who could it be?

0:41:14.010 --> 0:41:16.950
<v Speaker 1>Guy flies away. John gets his bail.

0:41:17.010 --> 0:41:17.469
<v Speaker 2>He gets out.

0:41:17.870 --> 0:41:22.990
<v Speaker 1>When John gets his phone charged, there are a million

0:41:23.030 --> 0:41:27.460
<v Speaker 1>messages from his mom, from Marcus, from just everybody. He

0:41:27.500 --> 0:41:30.940
<v Speaker 1>calls his mom back. She's trying to apologize for lying

0:41:30.980 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 1>to him about Hal.

0:41:32.420 --> 0:41:36.540
<v Speaker 2>So weird. It's very, very strange. More calls, you know,

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 2>lying about Hal.

0:41:38.340 --> 0:41:42.260
<v Speaker 1>Wanting to apologize, right? More calls from Comfort Cove. Dad

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.460
<v Speaker 1>is wilding out. John calls his brother Aaron, who is

0:41:45.500 --> 0:41:46.760
<v Speaker 1>in the recording studio.

0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:50.489
<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable phone acting, by the way, by RMPR here.

0:41:52.100 --> 0:41:57.900
<v Speaker 1>And apparently John bankrolls Aaron's music dreams at the studio.

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:01.259
<v Speaker 1>Go pick up dad, he says. Apparently dad shot a

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:03.859
<v Speaker 1>window out at the comfort code. Crazy. And now he's

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:06.839
<v Speaker 1>got to leave. Like they can't keep him there. And,

0:42:07.060 --> 0:42:09.700
<v Speaker 1>you know, Aaron is refusing to go and is like,

0:42:09.780 --> 0:42:11.620
<v Speaker 1>he keeps calling him chosen. He's like, well, you know,

0:42:11.660 --> 0:42:13.799
<v Speaker 1>you should do it because, you know, you're the chosen

0:42:13.969 --> 0:42:15.410
<v Speaker 1>one and you got all the stuff. They were always

0:42:15.450 --> 0:42:19.830
<v Speaker 1>paying attention to you. John just eventually manages to get

0:42:19.910 --> 0:42:22.700
<v Speaker 1>Aaron to do it by himself. again, pointing out that like,

0:42:22.860 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I pay for everything. So fucking go get them right now.

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 1>It is incredible phone acting.

0:42:27.380 --> 0:42:30.140
<v Speaker 2>Also want to say, this was where I started to

0:42:30.620 --> 0:42:35.110
<v Speaker 2>jump back on the Jason Concepcion phone theory wagon, right?

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:37.690
<v Speaker 2>Because I do, one, this could just be sibling banter.

0:42:37.710 --> 0:42:40.790
<v Speaker 2>We know that the siblings are fucked up. But, there

0:42:40.830 --> 0:42:43.229
<v Speaker 2>are some moments in this phone call where it goes

0:42:43.469 --> 0:42:47.569
<v Speaker 2>so dark, where Aaron is saying the most horrible, isolating

0:42:47.700 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 2>shit to him. Like, you ruined dad's life. It's on you.

0:42:52.020 --> 0:42:54.880
<v Speaker 2>He wasted his whole life because you didn't take the ring.

0:42:55.380 --> 0:42:57.879
<v Speaker 2>Where I was like, that sounds like, what Oa would

0:42:57.920 --> 0:42:59.900
<v Speaker 2>make someone say if they wanted someone to take the

0:42:59.960 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 2>ring you know what I mean like I think that

0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:05.180
<v Speaker 2>that there is still an argument for that theory and

0:43:05.219 --> 0:43:07.489
<v Speaker 2>yeah Aaron is just selling this shit like when he

0:43:07.550 --> 0:43:10.009
<v Speaker 2>says to him he's like you're right dad is on

0:43:10.070 --> 0:43:13.149
<v Speaker 2>me and he goes but you're not and then Aaron

0:43:13.170 --> 0:43:15.549
<v Speaker 2>goes okay I'll go and he goes exactly go now

0:43:15.750 --> 0:43:18.250
<v Speaker 2>like shut the fuck up and go it's so good.

0:43:19.469 --> 0:43:23.930
<v Speaker 1>Maggie is waiting for John back at Hal's apartment and

0:43:24.350 --> 0:43:26.170
<v Speaker 1>now we learn why she covered for John.

0:43:27.860 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 2>She wants money.

0:43:30.100 --> 0:43:33.750
<v Speaker 1>She wants cash because of everything that happened when the

0:43:33.810 --> 0:43:38.150
<v Speaker 1>town was attacked. We didn't discuss it in the last recap,

0:43:38.170 --> 0:43:42.810
<v Speaker 1>but when the hotel was struck, there was a young

0:43:42.930 --> 0:43:46.069
<v Speaker 1>family there with a child. And John was like, it'll

0:43:46.110 --> 0:43:47.700
<v Speaker 1>be okay.

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:52.420
<v Speaker 2>Get to safety. And that child was Maggie. Mm-hmm.

0:43:53.430 --> 0:43:58.780
<v Speaker 1>John explains, listen, I didn't tell Sheriff Kerry because one,

0:43:58.890 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Hal told me not to tell anybody it was here.

0:44:02.100 --> 0:44:04.660
<v Speaker 2>And two, I'm black in this all white town.

0:44:04.739 --> 0:44:05.259
<v Speaker 1>They would have felt.

0:44:05.300 --> 0:44:10.720
<v Speaker 2>And she's like, we're not racist here. And he's like, oh, okay.

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Great line.

0:44:12.460 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Great line. Okay. She asks for $ 314, 000, which she is

0:44:15.580 --> 0:44:17.739
<v Speaker 1>a formula she had come up with plus interest of

0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:18.129
<v Speaker 1>all the.

0:44:18.070 --> 0:44:21.830
<v Speaker 2>Things she lost. Yeah. How much damage her family's businesses.

0:44:22.010 --> 0:44:25.240
<v Speaker 2>Can I say something? If this man has been making

0:44:25.650 --> 0:44:28.450
<v Speaker 2>panic rooms for the elite, which, by the way, from

0:44:28.510 --> 0:44:31.590
<v Speaker 2>David Fincher's hit movie from the zeros, Panic Room, starring

0:44:31.610 --> 0:44:34.370
<v Speaker 2>Kristen Stewart and Jodie Foster, those things cost a million

0:44:34.410 --> 0:44:38.290
<v Speaker 2>dollars in the 90s. Easily. Just give her the $ 314, 000, babe.

0:44:38.330 --> 0:44:42.190
<v Speaker 2>Just Venmo that shit over. Blackmail done. Why is this

0:44:42.270 --> 0:44:43.350
<v Speaker 2>even a conversation?

0:44:44.430 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Very, very interesting, his response to being blackmailed. Um, and

0:44:49.140 --> 0:44:50.299
<v Speaker 1>she's like, you know, give me the money or I

0:44:50.340 --> 0:44:50.880
<v Speaker 1>tell the sheriff.

0:44:50.900 --> 0:44:53.299
<v Speaker 2>She does call it reparations though. So you know what?

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:53.540
<v Speaker 1>Fuck.

0:44:53.580 --> 0:44:56.790
<v Speaker 2>That's yeah. But she is racist in the town. That's fine.

0:44:57.390 --> 0:45:02.009
<v Speaker 1>Noah shows up and he's, he very thoughtfully brought a

0:45:02.090 --> 0:45:04.910
<v Speaker 1>suit for that for John to wear.

0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:08.879
<v Speaker 2>For Hal's funeral. He's the lead-up. I guess he just.

0:45:09.540 --> 0:45:12.759
<v Speaker 1>He must be juiced, because I don't... Getting a suit

0:45:12.820 --> 0:45:15.570
<v Speaker 1>is hard, and he just, I guess, visually measured Jon

0:45:15.660 --> 0:45:17.730
<v Speaker 1>Stewart and got a perfectly fitting suit.

0:45:17.969 --> 0:45:21.650
<v Speaker 2>He's doing the interior leg measurements, like, in his mind,

0:45:21.969 --> 0:45:25.050
<v Speaker 2>did not. He's like... He's got this talism baby.

0:45:25.230 --> 0:45:28.810
<v Speaker 1>He could like look at something and know exactly what

0:45:28.830 --> 0:45:29.650
<v Speaker 1>the measurements are.

0:45:29.690 --> 0:45:33.370
<v Speaker 2>It's like incredible. He's got the Apple measuring app in

0:45:33.410 --> 0:45:35.529
<v Speaker 2>his eyes, but it just works. He's like that. And

0:45:35.550 --> 0:45:37.070
<v Speaker 2>then went off and made a suit.

0:45:37.510 --> 0:45:37.790
<v Speaker 1>Sure.

0:45:37.830 --> 0:45:40.570
<v Speaker 2>Got a suit in 24 hours from somewhere.

0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:41.140
<v Speaker 1>Manhunter.

0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:43.780
<v Speaker 2>Manhunter. He's got the magic. He goes, they beat someone

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:47.640
<v Speaker 2>up with his cyborg alien vibes and they make that suit. Something.

0:45:47.980 --> 0:45:50.780
<v Speaker 2>While that is going on, like somebody drives.

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:52.580
<v Speaker 1>By and does the thing you said, which is.

0:45:52.820 --> 0:45:56.620
<v Speaker 2>Where are you going, special guy? Like, what's your decision?

0:45:58.660 --> 0:46:03.410
<v Speaker 1>Jon Stewart apologizes for beating Noah's dad's ass, Billy. And

0:46:03.969 --> 0:46:07.989
<v Speaker 1>Noah doesn't, clearly the relationship between Noah and Billy is

0:46:08.050 --> 0:46:09.489
<v Speaker 1>not good because he's like, I don't care.

0:46:09.969 --> 0:46:14.660
<v Speaker 2>Also, John gives him this great line, which again, I think, Jason,

0:46:14.700 --> 0:46:18.460
<v Speaker 2>you went onto something with the echoes between these two characters.

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Because they are talking about season two. So I think

0:46:20.620 --> 0:46:23.600
<v Speaker 2>the Noah storyline is setting something up there. I agree.

0:46:23.980 --> 0:46:27.710
<v Speaker 2>There's this great moment when... John sees that happen and

0:46:27.750 --> 0:46:30.190
<v Speaker 2>he apologizes. And then he says, the only thing that

0:46:30.230 --> 0:46:33.450
<v Speaker 2>matters for you is like the path you want. I'm paraphrasing,

0:46:33.489 --> 0:46:35.370
<v Speaker 2>but he's like, the only path that you should be

0:46:35.450 --> 0:46:37.130
<v Speaker 2>on is the one that you're on and don't let

0:46:37.170 --> 0:46:39.509
<v Speaker 2>anyone else change that. And he says to him, do

0:46:39.550 --> 0:46:42.260
<v Speaker 2>you really believe that? And that's the big question, right?

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:45.460
<v Speaker 2>Of this whole show is like destiny versus self-determination.

0:46:46.500 --> 0:46:51.549
<v Speaker 1>At the funeral, it's just the priest... Guy and Carrie,

0:46:51.590 --> 0:46:53.799
<v Speaker 1>Guy will only be there for a moment. He brought

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the uniform. He bought the ring. The ring is on Hal.

0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 1>The uniform is on Hal. He's laying in the coffin.

0:46:59.660 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Guy is clearly nervous about Oa ever finding out that

0:47:04.580 --> 0:47:06.930
<v Speaker 1>he got this stuff. Yeah. And put it on Hal.

0:47:06.969 --> 0:47:10.549
<v Speaker 1>He's nervous about it. And he stresses, listen, the ring

0:47:10.610 --> 0:47:12.629
<v Speaker 1>is dead. It's been decommissioned.

0:47:12.790 --> 0:47:13.549
<v Speaker 2>It's not going to work.

0:47:14.130 --> 0:47:14.350
<v Speaker 1>So.

0:47:14.830 --> 0:47:18.049
<v Speaker 2>don't be digging this man up and stealing that and

0:47:18.110 --> 0:47:21.379
<v Speaker 2>john says ring great i love this line so much

0:47:21.469 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 2>i did not think it was going to pay off

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:25.799
<v Speaker 2>john goes what kind of like creepy freak do you

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:30.700
<v Speaker 2>think i am and guy says apparently very knowingly the

0:47:30.739 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 2>kind who's really good at hiding it and we learned

0:47:33.620 --> 0:47:36.060
<v Speaker 2>that yeah like john does have a freaky side he's

0:47:36.100 --> 0:47:38.120
<v Speaker 2>willing to push it to save the world.

0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:43.210
<v Speaker 1>Um Guy flies off because again, he says it would

0:47:43.250 --> 0:47:45.130
<v Speaker 1>be a bad look for him to be at the funeral,

0:47:45.150 --> 0:47:47.610
<v Speaker 1>which is, I don't believe, but that's weird.

0:47:47.830 --> 0:47:50.969
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that's because he is the new Green

0:47:50.989 --> 0:47:54.549
<v Speaker 2>Lantern and Hal was murdered? So like, it looks like,

0:47:55.050 --> 0:47:57.020
<v Speaker 2>but do we know, do people outside of the world

0:47:57.060 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 2>know he was murdered? Do they just know he was dead?

0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:02.620
<v Speaker 2>I think there's something suspicious about this that could pay off.

0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:05.020
<v Speaker 2>That's either him being told not to be there or

0:48:05.060 --> 0:48:07.640
<v Speaker 2>he's just a fucking coward and he doesn't want to

0:48:07.660 --> 0:48:08.479
<v Speaker 2>be there and answer any questions.

0:48:08.500 --> 0:48:11.470
<v Speaker 1>I think it's that, Yeah, I really want to figure

0:48:11.530 --> 0:48:13.610
<v Speaker 1>out why he's so nervous about this.

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:15.680
<v Speaker 2>It could be any of those things.

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:18.960
<v Speaker 1>And I also, to your point, think it's, I think

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:22.239
<v Speaker 1>he's uncomfortable around Jon because maybe Jon could snatch the

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:23.239
<v Speaker 1>ring from him at any time.

0:48:23.260 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's right. I think you're right, actually. Like,

0:48:26.460 --> 0:48:28.640
<v Speaker 2>if he's even looked in the archives or has his

0:48:28.739 --> 0:48:30.989
<v Speaker 2>own version of the bolt or whatever, he could have

0:48:31.030 --> 0:48:34.529
<v Speaker 2>heard that story about that's how you get the ring, right?

0:48:34.830 --> 0:48:37.049
<v Speaker 2>And that's why they had to give Guy a new

0:48:37.130 --> 0:48:38.870
<v Speaker 2>ring because he couldn't take it from Hal.

0:48:40.230 --> 0:48:43.590
<v Speaker 1>Very interesting. That is also very interesting. Why did they not?

0:48:44.590 --> 0:48:46.549
<v Speaker 2>I think they wanted more control over him.

0:48:47.170 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I think they wanted more control. I think you're absolutely right.

0:48:50.840 --> 0:48:54.880
<v Speaker 1>And I also wonder if whatever conspiracy is going on

0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:58.100
<v Speaker 1>with the Guardians and Noah, if there isn't some sort

0:48:58.140 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 1>of incriminating stuff in that. I mean, it clearly is.

0:49:01.739 --> 0:49:03.540
<v Speaker 1>The AI is going to know something. The AI house

0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:05.960
<v Speaker 1>is going to know something. And they don't want someone

0:49:06.140 --> 0:49:08.680
<v Speaker 1>else having potentially access to that.

0:49:08.860 --> 0:49:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Anyways.

0:49:10.219 --> 0:49:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Carol, Hal's longtime love interest shows up and she's like,

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:22.549
<v Speaker 1>I have Hal's eulogy here. And I think you should

0:49:22.590 --> 0:49:24.489
<v Speaker 1>read it. I think you're the only person that can

0:49:24.510 --> 0:49:25.750
<v Speaker 1>read it. I think it would be crazy if I

0:49:25.810 --> 0:49:27.549
<v Speaker 1>read it. So you should just read it.

0:49:28.090 --> 0:49:30.670
<v Speaker 2>She's like, it's embarrassing if anyone reads it. So I'm

0:49:30.690 --> 0:49:31.390
<v Speaker 2>going to make you do it.

0:49:31.390 --> 0:49:33.470
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm going to make you do it. It's titled

0:49:33.550 --> 0:49:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Brightest Day. And it's very clear that Hal was expecting

0:49:38.739 --> 0:49:42.509
<v Speaker 1>a massive... You know, in the comics, when a superhero dies,

0:49:42.530 --> 0:49:44.710
<v Speaker 1>there's always that cover where it's like.

0:49:44.730 --> 0:49:47.570
<v Speaker 2>Death of Superman. Death of Superman.

0:49:48.810 --> 0:49:53.510
<v Speaker 1>And it's like... The huge audience of every superhero, even

0:49:53.530 --> 0:49:56.540
<v Speaker 1>the minor ones, and the president is there, and aliens

0:49:56.620 --> 0:49:58.960
<v Speaker 1>are there. And that's what he was expecting, was this

0:49:59.180 --> 0:50:01.940
<v Speaker 1>huge fucking turnout.

0:50:01.980 --> 0:50:05.500
<v Speaker 2>Definitely thought Superman would be there. The likes of which

0:50:05.540 --> 0:50:08.420
<v Speaker 2>has never been seen in the DCU yet.

0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:13.009
<v Speaker 1>And it's just... John, Carrie, and the priest. That's it.

0:50:13.410 --> 0:50:15.910
<v Speaker 2>Carol doesn't even hang out. Carol doesn't even hang out.

0:50:16.130 --> 0:50:18.279
<v Speaker 2>She hangs out for like a minute looking sad. And

0:50:18.300 --> 0:50:21.800
<v Speaker 2>she leaves. I want to say, one thing Hal Jordan

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:24.420
<v Speaker 2>was clearly doing was taking care of the women. Because

0:50:24.460 --> 0:50:26.580
<v Speaker 2>the two people, two of the three people who came

0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:28.890
<v Speaker 2>were people he used to be sleeping with. So good

0:50:28.930 --> 0:50:32.009
<v Speaker 2>for him. Good for that man. Also, crazy to have

0:50:32.030 --> 0:50:35.250
<v Speaker 2>Carol Ferris here just like dropped in like that. That

0:50:35.390 --> 0:50:36.930
<v Speaker 2>is crazy. Crazy.

0:50:37.570 --> 0:50:39.609
<v Speaker 1>Taking care of everyone. I don't know that we can

0:50:39.630 --> 0:50:41.100
<v Speaker 1>just keep it to a gender because he was out

0:50:41.140 --> 0:50:43.500
<v Speaker 1>in space doing who knows what. Okay, that's true.

0:50:43.540 --> 0:50:47.759
<v Speaker 2>He did say opportunity, opportunity knocks, but he was not

0:50:48.260 --> 0:50:51.450
<v Speaker 2>taking care of those lovers. Actually, Jason, let me... I'm

0:50:51.469 --> 0:50:55.100
<v Speaker 2>going to pose something to you then because... is it

0:50:55.420 --> 0:51:00.480
<v Speaker 2>slightly suspicious that nobody showed up for Hal Jordan's funeral?

0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:02.990
<v Speaker 2>Like actually, if we think about it, like I get

0:51:03.030 --> 0:51:05.310
<v Speaker 2>that he's kind of meant to suck or whatever, right?

0:51:05.330 --> 0:51:07.069
<v Speaker 2>But if you actually just even look at the way

0:51:07.110 --> 0:51:10.490
<v Speaker 2>he's being perceived by the fans, there is like an edgy,

0:51:10.590 --> 0:51:15.090
<v Speaker 2>loving rawness, right? So surely some weird, you know, Chip

0:51:15.190 --> 0:51:19.770
<v Speaker 2>the squirrel or like some random alien that he fucked

0:51:20.270 --> 0:51:24.359
<v Speaker 2>in 10 different universes away, like wouldn't, They come? Like,

0:51:24.390 --> 0:51:27.419
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't somebody come? I feel like there is something very

0:51:27.700 --> 0:51:29.520
<v Speaker 2>isolated about Rushville right now.

0:51:30.140 --> 0:51:33.940
<v Speaker 1>It makes me feel that whatever the public story of

0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:38.390
<v Speaker 1>what happened at Rushville is, it's very, very bad. Okay.

0:51:39.130 --> 0:51:40.690
<v Speaker 2>Don't even ask about it.

0:51:41.489 --> 0:51:43.850
<v Speaker 1>Like, some Green Lantern turns into a.

0:51:43.850 --> 0:51:46.009
<v Speaker 2>9-11 type shit. Yeah, he turned into a terrorist. I

0:51:46.010 --> 0:51:50.930
<v Speaker 2>will say, they do... They did lean very heavily on

0:51:51.090 --> 0:51:54.549
<v Speaker 2>suicide bombing in episode five. So yeah, you're right. They

0:51:54.590 --> 0:51:57.089
<v Speaker 2>might just be talking around how horrific it is. So

0:51:57.130 --> 0:51:59.469
<v Speaker 2>it's like, you just don't even bring it up. And

0:51:59.510 --> 0:52:02.509
<v Speaker 2>I guess that's also why John feels comfortable doing what

0:52:02.530 --> 0:52:04.890
<v Speaker 2>he does to end this episode, which is an absolutely

0:52:05.010 --> 0:52:07.540
<v Speaker 2>insane way to end the episode. And I fucking love it.

0:52:07.960 --> 0:52:09.820
<v Speaker 2>So that night, John returns.

0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:13.400
<v Speaker 1>He digs up Hal. While he's digging up Hal, he's

0:52:13.460 --> 0:52:16.460
<v Speaker 1>in the fucking grave pit. Couldn't wait till tomorrow.

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:17.390
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't.

0:52:18.330 --> 0:52:21.170
<v Speaker 1>Marcus calls with Colonel Draycott. Now, earlier at the funeral,

0:52:21.690 --> 0:52:23.530
<v Speaker 1>John had taken a call from Marcus and was like, listen,

0:52:23.550 --> 0:52:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to be there for the pitch, but

0:52:24.910 --> 0:52:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll be there to close later. Like, I'll close personally

0:52:27.780 --> 0:52:31.759
<v Speaker 1>with Draycott. So apparently Marcus did the pitch. He puts

0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:35.940
<v Speaker 1>Draycott on the phone. Draycott's like, yeah, Colonel Draycott. And

0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:41.279
<v Speaker 1>then the call cuts. John calls back. And it turns

0:52:41.340 --> 0:52:44.000
<v Speaker 1>out that Draycott just hung up and walked out.

0:52:44.239 --> 0:52:46.939
<v Speaker 2>He felt so slighted by the fact- Because he wasn't

0:52:46.980 --> 0:52:51.680
<v Speaker 2>worth John's time. Yeah. Felt so slighted by that. But

0:52:51.760 --> 0:52:54.870
<v Speaker 2>it's like- Sometimes a 6'2 man needs to dig a

0:52:54.910 --> 0:52:57.930
<v Speaker 2>hole with his old best friend in it, okay?

0:52:58.530 --> 0:53:02.210
<v Speaker 1>This is why it must- Like Hal's name must be

0:53:02.350 --> 0:53:04.890
<v Speaker 1>dirt on a level that we kind of can't understand

0:53:04.930 --> 0:53:08.130
<v Speaker 1>right now. And we just, the cover story must be

0:53:08.210 --> 0:53:10.339
<v Speaker 1>something completely.

0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:14.270
<v Speaker 2>Terrible, bad. John can't even bring this up and say, hey,

0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:15.580
<v Speaker 2>this is Green Lantern shit.

0:53:16.560 --> 0:53:21.359
<v Speaker 1>So Marcus is fucking pissed, whatever. John opens the coffin.

0:53:21.430 --> 0:53:25.170
<v Speaker 1>He takes the ring off Hal. It has 5% charge.

0:53:25.250 --> 0:53:28.490
<v Speaker 1>He like bangs it on a grave. It manifests AI Hal,

0:53:28.530 --> 0:53:32.660
<v Speaker 1>the Halogram. and Hallegram looks down at the grave that

0:53:32.860 --> 0:53:35.500
<v Speaker 1>John and it are standing over, and there is the

0:53:35.540 --> 0:53:39.760
<v Speaker 1>body of Hal Jordan, and Hallegram is like, oh, fuck.

0:53:40.080 --> 0:53:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Cut to black! I have a different reading of the ending,

0:53:44.300 --> 0:53:46.430
<v Speaker 2>so let's go to break and talk about it. Yeah,

0:53:46.450 --> 0:54:02.720
<v Speaker 2>let's take a break and come back. And we're back. Okay.

0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:06.140
<v Speaker 1>What is your take on this?

0:54:06.520 --> 0:54:09.799
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I think yours is the Occam's Razor, like,

0:54:09.890 --> 0:54:13.630
<v Speaker 2>most obvious version. But when I was re-watching it, I

0:54:13.750 --> 0:54:18.250
<v Speaker 2>actually was like, wait. I think that what it is,

0:54:18.430 --> 0:54:21.029
<v Speaker 2>is that Jon is using the ring, right? What was

0:54:21.070 --> 0:54:24.010
<v Speaker 2>always meant to be his ring. The AI manifests differently

0:54:24.090 --> 0:54:26.660
<v Speaker 2>for different people. And I think what happened is his

0:54:26.900 --> 0:54:30.440
<v Speaker 2>AI manifested as cranky, dead Hal that we know. And

0:54:31.060 --> 0:54:33.500
<v Speaker 2>Hal was like, fuck like now i'm stuck in this

0:54:33.580 --> 0:54:37.299
<v Speaker 2>fucking ring teaching this fucking annoying ass guy kind of

0:54:37.320 --> 0:54:41.390
<v Speaker 2>playing on that original relationship they had so i'm really

0:54:41.450 --> 0:54:44.470
<v Speaker 2>i think that it's open-ended but i think that where

0:54:44.510 --> 0:54:46.689
<v Speaker 2>that is gonna go and also as well i gotta

0:54:46.730 --> 0:54:49.450
<v Speaker 2>say i love the sheriff kerry stuff in this episode

0:54:49.489 --> 0:54:52.690
<v Speaker 2>with john but obviously the tease of a final two

0:54:52.770 --> 0:54:56.450
<v Speaker 2>episodes where it's this true detective with john and hal

0:54:56.469 --> 0:55:00.050
<v Speaker 2>but it's halogram and john is really smart that's a

0:55:00.230 --> 0:55:02.850
<v Speaker 2>fun twist I agree.

0:55:03.050 --> 0:55:14.100
<v Speaker 1>Now, I agree with you that Halogram now has the

0:55:14.140 --> 0:55:17.560
<v Speaker 1>most up-to-date memories of Hal, probably, right?

0:55:18.040 --> 0:55:21.540
<v Speaker 2>Well, since he was... Before he died, basically. Before he

0:55:21.580 --> 0:55:24.120
<v Speaker 2>went into jail 10 years ago, right? Oh, okay. Because

0:55:24.140 --> 0:55:25.170
<v Speaker 2>when he empowered him up....

0:55:27.900 --> 0:55:30.719
<v Speaker 1>During the events that led to the death of the

0:55:30.760 --> 0:55:32.900
<v Speaker 1>Manhunter and the attacks. Remember, it had been 10 years,

0:55:33.360 --> 0:55:36.440
<v Speaker 1>but there must have been a catch-up process, right, where

0:55:36.460 --> 0:55:37.719
<v Speaker 1>he downloaded other things.

0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:40.770
<v Speaker 2>It might also be instant. Like, as soon as you

0:55:41.190 --> 0:55:43.610
<v Speaker 2>connect the ring or you charge the ring, it updates

0:55:43.730 --> 0:55:46.350
<v Speaker 2>it or whatever. So I do think there's an updated version.

0:55:46.510 --> 0:55:52.029
<v Speaker 1>We should assume that the hologram has the information about

0:55:52.090 --> 0:55:55.090
<v Speaker 1>whatever it was that Hal was working on with Sinestro

0:55:55.370 --> 0:55:58.600
<v Speaker 1>or that working on the Sinestro, you know, information that

0:55:58.660 --> 0:56:02.960
<v Speaker 1>he had gotten when he interviewed Sinestro. I also think this, we,

0:56:05.100 --> 0:56:08.430
<v Speaker 1>Halogram flew off and was keeping an eye on things.

0:56:08.730 --> 0:56:10.890
<v Speaker 1>But we actually have no idea what Halogram was doing

0:56:10.930 --> 0:56:12.520
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of that. Exactly.

0:56:12.640 --> 0:56:16.260
<v Speaker 2>And we don't know if Halogram was working with Sinestro.

0:56:16.340 --> 0:56:19.739
<v Speaker 2>We don't know what's going on. I mean, also, we

0:56:19.780 --> 0:56:22.239
<v Speaker 2>know so little about the ring. And I'm not going

0:56:22.260 --> 0:56:24.100
<v Speaker 2>to lie. I do think one of the coolest things

0:56:24.140 --> 0:56:26.710
<v Speaker 2>about this show is how much they've expanded the lore

0:56:26.730 --> 0:56:28.930
<v Speaker 2>of the ring, whether it's to do with the ring

0:56:28.969 --> 0:56:30.890
<v Speaker 2>not always choosing people or whether it's to do with

0:56:30.930 --> 0:56:34.330
<v Speaker 2>how it chooses. I kind of am starting to feel like,

0:56:34.810 --> 0:56:40.260
<v Speaker 2>what if? Hal's hologram and Sinestro's, you know, yellow lantern

0:56:40.370 --> 0:56:42.930
<v Speaker 2>ring that he has got. What if they can communicate?

0:56:42.989 --> 0:56:45.509
<v Speaker 2>What if there is a network of the ways that

0:56:45.530 --> 0:56:47.870
<v Speaker 2>the AI can communicate if it is up to date?

0:56:47.969 --> 0:56:50.150
<v Speaker 2>I think there's so much about it that we don't know.

0:56:50.170 --> 0:56:52.450
<v Speaker 2>And I think that is going to be ripe for

0:56:52.469 --> 0:56:54.299
<v Speaker 2>the next couple of episodes because what happens when there

0:56:54.340 --> 0:56:58.000
<v Speaker 2>are two active rings? Let's get crazy for a second

0:56:58.060 --> 0:56:58.910
<v Speaker 2>because I.

0:57:00.820 --> 0:57:02.759
<v Speaker 2>Let's just work with what we have in this show.

0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:06.489
<v Speaker 1>Jon Stewart can manifest stuff from the ring that persists.

0:57:06.790 --> 0:57:06.989
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:57:08.570 --> 0:57:15.069
<v Speaker 1>We think, we suspect, potentially, Jon and Hal, even though

0:57:15.130 --> 0:57:17.530
<v Speaker 1>they had a lot of animosity towards each other, there

0:57:17.590 --> 0:57:22.580
<v Speaker 1>is some secret that they were keeping. We don't know

0:57:22.620 --> 0:57:29.980
<v Speaker 1>what Hallegram was doing. Hal knows that Jon can do

0:57:30.020 --> 0:57:35.500
<v Speaker 1>the thing with the bird. Yes. Did... John, juice Haligram

0:57:36.020 --> 0:57:42.220
<v Speaker 1>so that Haligram was more alive, persistent, outside of the

0:57:42.260 --> 0:57:45.280
<v Speaker 1>ring's influence than previous.

0:57:45.780 --> 0:57:47.100
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go crazier because I think you're right.

0:57:47.500 --> 0:57:53.330
<v Speaker 2>But also, what about this? What if Haligram was like,

0:57:53.930 --> 0:57:56.150
<v Speaker 2>because this is definitely going to be the big conversation,

0:57:56.250 --> 0:58:00.150
<v Speaker 2>is Hal really dead? What version? What if John helped

0:58:00.630 --> 0:58:04.210
<v Speaker 2>a version of Haligram die? be the dead how like

0:58:04.270 --> 0:58:07.890
<v Speaker 2>if he helps it manifest into something real right and

0:58:08.570 --> 0:58:10.950
<v Speaker 2>so we could end up with a real how jordan

0:58:10.970 --> 0:58:13.010
<v Speaker 2>because i do feel like a lot of the conversation

0:58:13.050 --> 0:58:15.170
<v Speaker 2>has been hey he was so well received these two

0:58:15.210 --> 0:58:17.710
<v Speaker 2>go really well together we're starting to get it how

0:58:17.730 --> 0:58:20.530
<v Speaker 2>do you have him in second season two hologram works

0:58:20.890 --> 0:58:22.760
<v Speaker 2>but i think there is a lot of potential you

0:58:22.800 --> 0:58:24.860
<v Speaker 2>know we know that in the mcu we had the

0:58:24.900 --> 0:58:28.920
<v Speaker 2>sam uh samuel l jackson lmds we know that here

0:58:29.300 --> 0:58:32.670
<v Speaker 2>there are these kind of man hunters who can change shape.

0:58:32.850 --> 0:58:35.190
<v Speaker 2>Is that a different man hunter? Is that someone they

0:58:35.210 --> 0:58:37.710
<v Speaker 2>man hunted used to look like Hal and then kill?

0:58:37.990 --> 0:58:39.870
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we'll have to chop out his heart and find out.

0:58:40.470 --> 0:58:45.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm intrigued. I think there's a lot of potential. I

0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:45.700
<v Speaker 2>agree with you.

0:58:45.720 --> 0:58:48.140
<v Speaker 1>I think that there is a world in which Hal

0:58:48.220 --> 0:58:53.820
<v Speaker 1>and John make some kind of deal. John juices the ring,

0:58:54.580 --> 0:58:58.040
<v Speaker 1>manifests AI Hal so that it's a live person, just

0:58:58.080 --> 0:59:02.360
<v Speaker 1>like the bird. AI Hal goes to jail.

0:59:02.940 --> 0:59:04.020
<v Speaker 2>That's what I was going to say.

0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:08.610
<v Speaker 1>Hal is, wherever he the fuck is, running around secretly,

0:59:08.850 --> 0:59:12.120
<v Speaker 1>is the one that broke in. out Sinestro, actually.

0:59:11.760 --> 0:59:16.020
<v Speaker 2>Did do it. Oh, shit. Even if it was just

0:59:16.100 --> 0:59:17.980
<v Speaker 2>for the, he could have been in jail for a

0:59:18.040 --> 0:59:20.300
<v Speaker 2>lot of the time if they just needed to switch

0:59:20.340 --> 0:59:23.220
<v Speaker 2>him out as well. There's ways you could heist this up. Right.

0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:25.740
<v Speaker 2>This could have been a little secret Green Lantern heist. Oh,

0:59:25.780 --> 0:59:28.590
<v Speaker 2>I love this. And, you know, or.

0:59:29.150 --> 0:59:33.510
<v Speaker 1>And now, somehow this has gone a crazy way because

0:59:33.530 --> 0:59:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Halligram is actually dead.

0:59:36.140 --> 0:59:38.810
<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm. Or, you know, someone killed it.

0:59:39.260 --> 0:59:42.090
<v Speaker 1>So... It could also be reversed in which, I don't know,

0:59:42.130 --> 0:59:44.830
<v Speaker 1>like that is the real Hal and Halogram is off

0:59:44.890 --> 0:59:47.180
<v Speaker 1>running around and was the one who broke out Sinestro. Like,

0:59:47.680 --> 0:59:51.220
<v Speaker 1>I just think that we know that Jon can do

0:59:51.280 --> 0:59:54.640
<v Speaker 1>this and there's no way that's not coming back in

0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:55.340
<v Speaker 1>some way.

0:59:55.660 --> 0:59:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Remember that when Hal broke the chip off, it was

0:59:59.540 --> 1:00:03.110
<v Speaker 2>so that the Halogram could be free and go further

1:00:03.160 --> 1:00:05.850
<v Speaker 2>and stay out for longer, right? So they've established that

1:00:05.910 --> 1:00:08.220
<v Speaker 2>both of those things can happen. So I think we're

1:00:08.240 --> 1:00:12.160
<v Speaker 2>going to at least get a bit of a hologram switcheroo. Okay, Jason,

1:00:12.890 --> 1:00:17.930
<v Speaker 2>two episodes left. It's not enough. It feels like it's

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<v Speaker 2>not enough, especially because now it feels like the juice

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<v Speaker 2>is really going. Like it's pumping through. We're getting to

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<v Speaker 2>the central mystery. Who do you think was behind the killing?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it a real killing or is it part of

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<v Speaker 2>this play? And how does Sinestro play into it? I,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a great question. I, here.

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<v Speaker 1>Are my top suspects for who shot Hal. Noah, because

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<v Speaker 1>we're not suspecting it.

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<v Speaker 2>And also he's the manhunter, right? Like obviously he's at

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<v Speaker 2>least a little bit of the manhunter, omen child or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And whoever shot Hal, remember, Hal just let it happen

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<v Speaker 1>or didn't react or let this person get close enough

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<v Speaker 1>to him.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is his girlfriend's kid brother. Yeah. Jason!

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<v Speaker 1>Or it was Sinestro somehow. But why would Sinestro be

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<v Speaker 1>on Earth? And I just think an alien on Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be too obvious.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I say something else?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Did John... Okay, wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Did.

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<v Speaker 2>This is so crazy, guys. I'm sorry. But sometimes we

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<v Speaker 2>got to go there. Yeah. Did you notice the echoes

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<v Speaker 2>between the whole thing of in the last episode, there

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<v Speaker 2>was all this conversation about a Manhunter would never welcome death. smiling.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of parallels between Zoe's death, getting sniped

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<v Speaker 2>in the head with the smile, no fight. And Hal's death.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a world where Hal thought John was killing

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<v Speaker 2>him to take the ring and it was the right

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<v Speaker 2>thing to do or something? Like there is so many

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<v Speaker 2>elements that echo there. I feel like it has to

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<v Speaker 2>connect back together.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that whatever Hal and John are up to,

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<v Speaker 1>if they're up to something, It's they both decided that

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<v Speaker 1>protecting the Manhunter, the Manhunter's offspring, is so important that

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<v Speaker 1>they needed to go through all of this and somehow

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<v Speaker 1>create this faked... I mean, it was a real death

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<v Speaker 1>of the Manhunter, right? But do it in such a

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<v Speaker 1>way that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a cover-up for the fact there's another Manhunter. Or something.

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<v Speaker 1>And something deeper, right? Like... And what is that? Also,

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<v Speaker 1>here's another thing I wanted to ask you. Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Abin Sur, in the comics, Hal gets the ring from

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<v Speaker 2>Abin Sur, who, like, passes it on to Hal Jordan.

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<v Speaker 2>He crashes, and he meets Hal, and he's a brave pilot,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, oh, you're a good guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, how the fuck did Abin Sur end

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<v Speaker 1>up with the Manhunter also crashed on Earth?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. So it seems like, and I do think a

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<v Speaker 2>big part of this is going to be potentially, it

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<v Speaker 2>would be a big swing, but potentially could be what

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<v Speaker 2>we see lead into Superman too. I think we've established

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<v Speaker 2>that Jon knows, just like in the comics, the Guardians

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<v Speaker 2>created the Manhunters before they created the Lanterns, right? So

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<v Speaker 2>it's that Jack Kirby Eternal shit. And Abin Sur obviously

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<v Speaker 2>was seduced by the Manhunter, like everyone else, and was

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<v Speaker 2>convinced to flee off the planet with her to Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that you know, she's crashed the plane

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<v Speaker 2>to kill him because, you know, whatever she said, they disagreed.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's how she saved herself. And I'm interested to

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<v Speaker 2>know then where she was when Hal got the ring.

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<v Speaker 2>Because wasn't Abin Sir crashed straight away? Yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. Like, doesn't that sound exactly like Hal Jordan's

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<v Speaker 2>origin story?

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<v Speaker 1>There's something that doesn't line up to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering, like, Was Abin Sur always the, was Abin Sur,

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<v Speaker 1>did he exist?

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<v Speaker 2>Was he the Manhunter? Not even just that. I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to say, what if Zoe was Abin Sur in

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<v Speaker 2>that moment? Like she made herself look that way to

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<v Speaker 2>give Hal the ring. And honestly, for all we know,

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<v Speaker 2>she called him back and was like, hey, bruv, I

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<v Speaker 2>need a little help over here. We don't know like

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<v Speaker 2>the different conflicts of interest. I also feel like, family-wise,

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<v Speaker 2>Hal has no one, right? They keep leaning on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Hal has no one, Hal has no one, Hal has

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<v Speaker 2>no one. John has this family, but he doesn't really

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<v Speaker 2>have anyone, right? Marcus was the closest thing, and that

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<v Speaker 2>seems like it was kind of transactional in the end. Understandably,

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus is pissed off. When do we get them acknowledging,

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<v Speaker 2>because it does seem like this is where they're going,

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<v Speaker 2>that they are the thing they have? You know, that

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<v Speaker 2>they lean on each other. I think there's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a moment where John has to pick how over

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<v Speaker 2>his family, but it's not really his family. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>an illusion of his family or it's something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think the phone calls, I think Bernadette

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<v Speaker 2>has to come back into play. You might be right. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>it might just be a cost cutting issue. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think if that is the case, by the end, by

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<v Speaker 2>the end, We'll see how we feel about it. But

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<v Speaker 2>currently it's opening the doors for so many interesting things.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that Aaron Pierre has really sold everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>He sold Joelle now. He sold a lot of us

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<v Speaker 2>on this version of Jon Stewart, who kind of has

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<v Speaker 2>this wild card element to him, who plays games and

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<v Speaker 2>makes choices you can't really understand. Like there's that great moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it was. in episode four, maybe, where Jon

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<v Speaker 2>and Zoe sleep together again, and he says, I see you.

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<v Speaker 2>And everyone was like, oh, it's this empathetic moment. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was because in that moment, he understood that she

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<v Speaker 2>killed Abin Sur, that she had done everything. He has

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<v Speaker 2>this way of perceiving things. So, Jason, episode... seven and

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<v Speaker 2>episode eight or our last two episodes i think we

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<v Speaker 2>get one crazy construct from each lantern in each episode

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<v Speaker 2>because i feel like that's the one thing we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>got even in the crazy finale a style episode of

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<v Speaker 2>episode five we didn't really get a lot of green

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<v Speaker 2>lantern action it was more like last of us like

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<v Speaker 2>militia do you think we're gonna get to see guy

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<v Speaker 2>hal or halogram and john all three of them in

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<v Speaker 2>the suits at any point i think they've got to

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<v Speaker 2>do it for the finale I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think we might see that. Yeah, I certainly think we

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<v Speaker 1>might see that. And we're building up to a point

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<v Speaker 1>where John unambiguously becomes one of Earth's Green Lanterns. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we are moving towards a DCU. paradigm where there's

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<v Speaker 1>multiple Green Lanterns like in the comics from Earth because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like such a nexus point for all these events

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes sense too because we know that they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do the Jessica Cruz Green Lantern animated series and

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<v Speaker 2>they've liked to kind of align these ideas. And also

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<v Speaker 2>Green Lantern, there's always been many of them. It makes sense, right?

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<v Speaker 2>So I think you're right. We got to see how

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<v Speaker 2>Guy and John are going to coexist. It could be,

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<v Speaker 2>let me just quickly, it could be something like in Superman,

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<v Speaker 2>we saw that there were these kind of two sides,

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<v Speaker 2>which is like Superman and Lois, and then the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of corporate Justice League that was going to be the

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<v Speaker 2>authority on Lex's side. Maybe John becomes Superman's Green Lantern.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's leading to your real JLU Justice League Unlimited

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<v Speaker 2>and the kind of justice gang stay as the corporate

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<v Speaker 2>Lex version until they have to come together in Superman

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<v Speaker 2>2 is kind of my guess.

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<v Speaker 1>As we leave, who are your top suspects for who

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<v Speaker 1>shot Hal?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of liking this manhunter to make himself look

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<v Speaker 2>like Jon, but I think that's a bit out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think your Noah plan is pretty good. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that... Also, I have to say, Sheriff Kerry lied

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<v Speaker 2>to us the entire way through the first four or

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<v Speaker 2>five episodes. She was the one who met Zoe. She

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<v Speaker 2>was the one who was saved. She made the protection deal.

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<v Speaker 2>She's from Gotham. She's done stuff to stay alive. There

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<v Speaker 2>is a version where... She killed Hal to save her son.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's just acting. And no, no, but she's probably sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Like she didn't want to have to make that choice,

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<v Speaker 2>but she made the right choice if she did because

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<v Speaker 2>her son is her son is her son, right? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But is she dealing with the guilt of killing the

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<v Speaker 2>one man that she authentically cared about to save her

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<v Speaker 2>potential genocidal alien, you know, cyborg son? And is the

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<v Speaker 2>Manhunter in The Rise of Noah or the notion of

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<v Speaker 2>a shape-shifting alien secret invasion-esque of thing going to be

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<v Speaker 2>why Superman and Lex have to team up in Superman too. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this has to lead directly into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Final, final question. Cause I think I agree with your suspects.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think we'll see somebody else like Superman from

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<v Speaker 2>the DC movies in the last two episodes? Or do

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<v Speaker 2>you think we just get Guy?

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<v Speaker 1>I think we get somebody, but it's probably not like

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<v Speaker 1>a huge thing.

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<v Speaker 2>One more thing. we gotta talk about what's in the

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<v Speaker 2>vault oh my god the vault also okay can i

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<v Speaker 2>give you my theory this out tell me your theory

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<v Speaker 2>hal jordan Oh, bro. That's so fucking good. Like if

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<v Speaker 2>he's like in cryostasis in there. Well, that's good, too, because. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't he just be alive in there?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he might have like a nice little. The

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<v Speaker 2>bird flew around in there. He might have like an apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen what Lex's weird like time portal thing looked like.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be like his, you know, staycation is just

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<v Speaker 2>in there. It would be funny if he had a

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<v Speaker 2>little nice man cave in there, but everywhere else he

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<v Speaker 2>lived sucked. Also, that would make sense because I think

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<v Speaker 2>he would know what my theory is and why I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad you brought this up. I think one of the

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<v Speaker 2>reasons that Jon dug up the ring is because he

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<v Speaker 2>will have Hal's ring. He can go to the vault

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, I'm the Green Lantern, baby. Like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is actually my job. Remember me, Jon Stewart? I came

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<v Speaker 2>and opened you before because Hal Jordan said it was OK.

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<v Speaker 2>And once he has Hal's ring back, I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to access it. And you know what? I would

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<v Speaker 2>love if they open the next episode and he opens

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<v Speaker 2>it and Hal's like about fucking time. Like, do you

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<v Speaker 2>know how bad the food is in here? What do

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<v Speaker 2>you think is in there?

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, the battery is going to be in there. The

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<v Speaker 2>actual lantern, his version of the lantern, which we'll probably

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<v Speaker 2>find out, is the original Oa version. Jon has never

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<v Speaker 2>needed a lantern, though. I want to say that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he has in the original, but later on, he can

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<v Speaker 2>go beyond it. And I do think that's part of

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<v Speaker 2>why the ring turned back on. Other things that could

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<v Speaker 2>be in there. I feel like there is, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a MacGuffin, but I feel like there is still a

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<v Speaker 2>piece that we are missing or not seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the puzzle. And I think whatever is in the vault,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's Hal himself or, you know, a MacGuffin or

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<v Speaker 2>a piece of evidence, I think whatever it is, the

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<v Speaker 2>evidence against the Guardian, the filing cabinet, Abin Sir, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he's still fucking alive. Maybe there's five fucking Guardians. Like, who,

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<v Speaker 2>whomst among us knows that that is why we need

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<v Speaker 2>to watch the next episode. Send it to us, please.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up on X-Ray Vision, we're revisiting Marvel's The Avengers

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<v Speaker 1>as part of our impending Doomsday series and reacting to

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<v Speaker 1>Resident Evil now in theaters and more.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening. Bye.

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