WEBVTT - How to Tackle Student Loans, Build Wealth, and Still Breathe Easy 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:04.560 A student loan? What are we calling it beginning May fifth? 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:06.720 If you have been on default on your loans, like 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:08.639 it's going to show up on your credit report. When 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:10.360 you look at the populations that are going to be 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:13.920 most impact, it's going to be underserved, like minority students. 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:19.239 But my what I'm confused about is is their Department 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:20.560 of Education still. 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:22.279 Over this? 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:24.560 Yes, it keeps saying that the partner of Education is going 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:26.200 to start collection starting my fifth I'm. 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:29.240 Like, what the head of the doe is? The is 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:34.520 the wrestling lady? That's ok? 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:43.640 Even hey, the a fan, Welcome to the Brown table. 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:45.519 We haven't had one of these in a minute. It 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:49.279 feels like I've been over here just interviewing people I've 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:51.840 been in like my you know, my podcast host back, 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:57.160 just getting incredible thought leaders. I do have a couple 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:02.080 of do you you know, going on iconic radio stations 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:06.720 and such like that, like so like that. No, but 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:10.880 I've been preparing very hard for Mental Health Awareness Month, 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:14.280 which is happening in May. And you'll know, some of 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:18.520 these like months like they can be a little you know, 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:24.320 lip service, corny whatever. But because I have had such 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.600 a pivotal year in my own mental health journey this 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:30.680 past year. So I'm kind of celebrating the year of 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:33.840 me saying yes to my mental health resources and like 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:38.080 seeing such you know, great progress. I said, let me 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:41.800 put together some shows where we can really like look 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:45.600 at the link between our mindset and our finances, which 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.800 is such an obvious like they're on the same path 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.320 in my mind. Right, So I got some good. 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.320 Pay attention enough I feel like to that, like we'll 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:54.960 say it over and over and over again, but people 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:56.400 still want to skip to Okay, so how do I 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:56.880 get my credit? 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:58.280 Right's exactly. 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.040 Yeah. It's also the hardest thing to coach people in. 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.520 So I've got I'm going to talk to Aga Evans, 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:10.320 who's a financial therapist. You know that's my boom. 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.640 So okay, good because when I name dropped somebody on 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:17.120 the show, you know, she's amazing, soon to be what the. 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.839 Way, soon to be cousin. 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:32.000 She marrying your kid, no having your baby, never mine? 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.480 Okay, long time was here. We did get a little 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:39.840 bit of t out of her about her dating life right. 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:43.200 Along the way, like we're supposed to call over her 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:44.160 little trail. 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.600 Of the uncertainty is not good for my mental health. Okay, 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:54.560 so let me just keep moving. Asia, who is the 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:56.839 author of a book that I can't remember the name. 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.760 You're gonna have it right finance. Well look at there 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:05.040 we go that you. I mean, it's almost like we 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:08.520 did not plan that. We did not I just literally 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:10.200 have to sit in here. That's when I know I 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:10.880 pick a good one. 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:13.800 She's oh good. 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.240 I've got Asia coming on to Like I did a 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.160 poll on my on brown Ambition's ig just asking folks, 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:22.200 like what kinds of questions are you having? What's what's 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.400 really like keeping you up at night? So we go 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.520 and talk about that. I've also got unessima. I told 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:29.760 you I was going to talk to doctor j Blackstock. 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.120 Yeah and yeah, and Ellie, I know you'd be excited 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:33.840 about that too. 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:38.080 Yay, Yeah, give me so. 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:41.520 Yeah. So those who don't know she wrote this New 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:46.400 York Times bestselling book a year ago called Legacy A 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:50.160 Black Physician Reckons with Racism and Medicare Medicine. I almost 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:52.560 did it. I almost remember the whole title. You the 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:57.240 Good So I interviewed her along with doctor Jessica M. Shepherd, 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:01.360 who is a menopause and obg YA expert from the 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:05.720 West post. So we're getting into that interview ended up 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:07.840 being more about like their mental health because they are 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:11.800 two such incredible advocates for us, so I wanted to 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.360 like get real with them about and they are both 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:18.200 like doctor Blackstock is talking about how these you know, 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:23.160 this huge effort to undo DEI across America. It's impacting 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:26.760 her business because she's not a practicing physician anymore. She 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:31.680 has it's a well, it's a consultancy firm, so she 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:35.120 gets paid to speak and you know, do DEI trainings 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:36.960 and things like that. So we get into that. It's 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.359 a really good one. I've got the author of Black 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:40.800 Girls Breathing. 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.960 Jasmine Marine, so she and I So Black Girls Breathing 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.760 is all about she actually runs this incredible network of 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:49.720 breathwork specialists and she trains them. 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:53.320 And we're going to talk about how breath work, which 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:56.479 has become a really crucial part of my mental health journey. 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:00.120 This has been the year of it takes more than therapy. Yes, 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.360 So she's gonna we do a breath work exercise. 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:07.000 She talks about like how it's helping you know, like 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:08.680 we talk about how how do you like get to 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.479 the root of your like your mental health challenges and 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.159 how it could impact your finances. And it ain't got 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:17.120 nothing to do with the calculator all, you know, sometimes. 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:20.360 Like your budget, so we get into that and what else. 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.080 I have so much good stuff. But those are just 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:25.159 a few episodes. So stay tuned b A for all 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.160 of May. We're kicking off this Friday. When you listen 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:31.560 to this Friday's episode, we're gonna kick off with Ba's 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.320 Month of Mental Health and joy and fun. 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:35.760 I love that. That's amazing. 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.920 We need it, yes, definitely. So what's new with y'all 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.120 and Nasima? We haven't seen you since February when you 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:44.960 joined the Brown Table. I know, I know, got cuter, 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:45.960 if that's possible. 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:51.960 Oh, it's it's the headphones that are really doing it, 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:52.320 you know. 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:54.640 Yeah, I feel like they're bringing out something. 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:58.560 These are my two year olds, by the way, but 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.200 so starning stuff coming down the line. Like I was 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:06.599 telling you before we started recording, I am going to 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:11.920 try to navigate a little mini retirement, which I won't 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.200 fully pull away from work, but I definitely won't be 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:20.880 working as much. More like working, going from working three 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.200 to five days a week to maybe six or five 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:28.240 or six days a month and navigating that to focus 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:33.960 on my family and maybe world schooling my kids, and 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.520 what that looks like is you know, using the world 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:40.680 as your classroom. So for example, a couple of years ago, 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:43.880 we went to London and you know, we went to 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.880 the British Museum and we talked about the British Museum 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:49.640 and all the things in the museum and the artifacts 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.520 where they come from. But also it was very interesting 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:55.400 while we were there the British Museum was robbed of 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:57.640 a lot of the artifacts, and then we can talk 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:02.480 about like, well, yes, well actually they stole all that 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:06.880 stuff anyway, so it's true people getting this stuff back 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.560 and then what that meant and you know, so like 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:14.480 doing things like that more interact black panther, I know 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:18.840 what you're talking about exactly, and you know as appropriately, 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:20.880 no not you wear the black panther. Oh that's the 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:25.160 real black panther, you know, you know, but it's just 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.000 about me representing you know, anything that says Oakland on it. 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:34.120 But my dad was a panther ironically, so yeah, wait, 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.200 so remind the b a fan. So you are a 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:40.880 nurse by trade, hospital nurse. What's the exact title I'm 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:46.040 a labor and delivery nurse my trade. Yes, I deliver babies. 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.280 You know. My when I had my baby a couple 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.000 of years ago, the nurse who saved day as me 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:53.960 the same day as you. 0:07:56.400 --> 0:08:00.240 Shouldn't you remind me every time? Uh, we have dem nights, 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.000 twin babies, so the same day as you. 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:05.160 I had one of those those like minim what did 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.160 you call it, mini retirement? I had a mini retired 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:09.960 nurse who was incredible nurse. 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.280 She's like, oh, that's like twice a month, and I 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.400 just happened to the per day and I was so 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:17.680 happy because she was the best exactly. 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.200 And you come to work like so happy to be. 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:23.240 There, like we love what we do. But the burnout 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:27.720 is really real. Yeah, the job stress is real. So yeah, 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:28.600 I just saw. 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.280 The study that said that the highest trusted profession in 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:35.640 the United States is a nurse. Yeah, when you burn out, 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:39.720 it's you know, that's why people have so much trust 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.560 in nurses. You go above and beyond your working so hard, 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.840 crazy hours, and when you have a good nurse, it 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:46.440 makes the. 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:49.800 Entire hospital experience so different. So it makes sense. 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:53.280 But yes, that burnout, Yeah, it definitely makes her break 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:57.080 a hospital experience, and especially in labor and delivery, where 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:01.160 you never forget right when you have a baby. Yeah, 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:03.960 I mean you're also such so much more than that. 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.439 You have four baby girls. 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:15.600 I have three. Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, unmanifest which 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:20.720 is still incredible. Three baby girls amazing, And you've created 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:25.440 this brand financially intentional, and I've as a mom myself. 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:28.200 I just love I love seeing how you have invested 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:34.960 for their futures and got some six figure naires already already. Yeah, 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:37.440 so what's that going to look like? So then are 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.000 you living off the have you been investing in savings? 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:41.920 So you're gonna like partially live off of that, and 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:46.839 then whatever income you get from financially intentional exactly exactly, 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:51.120 and then maybe a little bit of commingling of funds, 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:57.000 like combining some funds and you know, just some. 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:05.120 Very special person with with who escalated February. 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:10.360 Maybe it's cousin, you know. Oh no, literally you're going 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:11.800 to be here. Are you engaged? 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:13.040 No? 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:13.760 Not yet? 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:18.480 Oh say wait a minute, I'm cool. 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.440 You're cool. Although Ellie, I know I look like a 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.960 news anchor, but my I disassembled my mic stand and 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:25.880 this is just how it's going to. 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.120 Be, reporting live, making it work. 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:34.280 Yeah, I'm so happy for you to hear that, because 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:37.280 I just feel like that is the number one reason 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:41.160 why high achieving women step away is burnout. 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:43.920 You pour so much into the work we do. 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:45.719 So like the fact that you're figuring out a way 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:47.880 to still do what you love, still make that impact, 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:49.880 still do the work, but do it in a way 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.400 that works for you, Like I'm all here for many retirements. 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:53.960 I love it. 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:57.000 And also to be able to spend time with my kids, 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:00.240 who I actually really like, I really enjoy them, and 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.120 like I'm never First of all, I never even wanted 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:07.680 to have no kids, So let's start there. I got three, 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.480 and I know I'll be looking at them like where 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:11.160 the hell these kids? 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:11.640 I am? 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.200 You know how they say you're your ancestry's wildest dream, 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:19.880 I am my past selves nightmare baby man, who would 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:26.160 be appholled We live where DJ's does the excursion of 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:30.480 the week, like we like the babies. 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:32.720 But it's true though. 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.680 Because the kids this is the age, like, this is 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:39.040 the age that makes all of they are so impressionable. 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.880 At this age, this is the age that you. 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:44.880 Enjoy most and remember most this that young age, Like 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:48.000 I remember my thought. My memory is always with my 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.199 mom because my dad was always working. He will only 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:52.080 be home one day week, and that one day that 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:53.920 he was home not working, of course, he was sleeping 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.200 all day because he's exhausted. So I feel like I 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:59.640 don't have childhood early memories of like my dad being 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.600 that playful dad that he is now as a granddad, 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:04.600 I see him as an a whelo with with my 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.040 niece and nephews, how he is with them. I'm like, oh, 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:08.920 you know, I never got that experience with him as 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:11.839 a dad because he was always working right just to 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:13.880 get of them table. So for you to be able 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:15.560 to step away for that reason, to be like no, no, 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:19.200 my girls are gonna remember me this way, it's like beful. 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:23.040 That is what all of our ancestors have wanted for us, 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.439 I'm sure forever because it's a beautiful thing. 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:26.440 It's such a gift. 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:30.199 Yeah, I'm excited about it. 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:32.559 So what's the timeline for this many retirement. 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:36.520 Well, I'm figuring that out, hopefully within the next couple 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:38.880 of months. Like I was telling you, if you guys 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:42.440 don't know who Jillian Geschard is, I mean Jillian John's route. 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:43.400 I used to say her name. 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:48.160 Jillian John's Root is author of Retire Often, which is 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:51.000 coming out in September. It's not a plug, but she 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:54.720 has a retire Often podcast and she's retired several times 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:59.240 and coaches people through it and so just figuring things 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:03.880 outgos with her. Initially it was gonna be June, which 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:08.080 is very soon, but I'll figure it out in the 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.640 next couple of weeks. I'll have to update you. I'll 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:14.720 know by mid May what my timeline is looking like 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:16.480 and what my trajectory will be. 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:22.000 Oh, I love that contract about retire Often list. 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:26.599 My goodness, I don't know on my radar, No on 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:30.000 my list. Now billion is the bomb? Like I thought 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:34.920 everybody knew Jillian in this community. Yeah, yeah, I'm under. 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:36.400 I'm under this book right now. 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.920 I don't. I'm lucky. I remember, y'all and the fact 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:45.439 that we don't have a kid a book. My manuscript 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:47.000 is due today, y'all. I do not know why I 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.320 booked this, but I'm really happy I did because I 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.560 have Literally I have been in my basement since five 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:53.200 a m. Finalizing the menu. 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:59.400 Have to Yeah, Oh my god, that the book that 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:03.160 I wrote. I don't even market it because it's so 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:09.160 much trauma bond, like so much PTSD. Yay, you got 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:12.240 another one that I'm enjoying. I definitely, I definitely have 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.000 a big, bigger one and a different one. I did 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:19.040 it a little bit unconventionally so and it was just 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:20.960 like my way to get exposed to it. But I 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.600 was just like ooh, I needed yeah, I mean, and 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:28.000 mind you, it was like an eight week timeline during 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:34.160 COVID girl, while being a nurse full time, while my 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:37.000 daughter was in kindergarten and out of school. So I 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:44.080 ve the way you say kindergarten, kindygarden, How do you 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:48.960 say that kindergarten exactly as you did, keep going, we 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:50.280 don't know kindergarten. 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:51.320 And then. 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:56.920 And you know, she couldn't read how to do her homework. 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.160 So I would go to work for twelve hours, come home, 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.200 and then and you know, be her teacher, and then 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:05.280 do it all again. And I was I was fortunately 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.560 the only one to never get COVID on my. 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.520 Unit, and I still haven't gotten COVID that. 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:09.960 I know of. 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.280 But so I was always working because everybody was sick. 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.280 Everybody kept on calling out six so it's like, can 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:18.280 you come in? Can you come in? And writing his book? 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:20.240 So a lot of a lot of a lot of 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:24.280 trauma around it. Jesus deserve many retirements. 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.440 About time you needed one a couple of years ago. 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:30.000 Yes, yes, yes, And there's about the stuff happened on 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.440 top of that that like kind of broke up my family. 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:37.160 But uh, you know it these five years, I mean 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.800 I think everyone's journey, that everyone's got a book. After 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:43.680 these five years, I feel like, oh for sure, you know, sure, Sorry, 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.920 I'm purshing mine from my body, and it has been 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:49.440 I needed more than eight weeks. I'll tell you that 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.120 I needed. I think I got this book deal the 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.800 week before the month before I gave birth to more 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:59.920 Gemini baby. So it's been two years and this is 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:01.760 the manuscript. So I have all these edits to do. 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.480 But anyway, speaking of Oakland and why you love it 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:06.760 and you always were up so hard, how excited are 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:11.680 you for your boy Ryan Cougler? Oh my god, seeding 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:13.440 in this way, it would have been awkward if you 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.240 were like, who, I don't know. No, For first of all, 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:18.560 Ryan Coogler is everything. 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:21.640 He's just like, first of all, he's from Oakland and 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.360 he also went to USC which is my Olmer model 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:28.320 double time. So you know our ride for Ryan Cougler. 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:29.960 You know he a little bit younger. If he was 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.280 a little bit older, you know, it would be really 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:36.600 all talking about younger, you know, when you're in college 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:38.520 and you like a senior and. 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:42.040 In the freshman Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:44.520 He's not even forty yet, y'all. He's up there at 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:45.360 thirty day. 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:52.560 Yeah, he's almost Have y'all seen Centners? Planning to see it, 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:57.160 like in a couple of hours, so you haven't seen. 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:58.360 It, I have not. 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:04.760 Alright, no, scholers, no ready, I've been waiting for this moment. 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:07.399 It is so freaking good. 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:10.679 I beloved to everybody I know that you have to 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:12.639 go see it, like you must. 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:13.560 We went last. 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.679 Weekend on a date night, and it's well because my 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:17.440 boyfriend was literally like not trying to do anything. I 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:18.800 was like, Bay, let's go, let's go it, let's go 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:20.919 out listen to He's like, no, no, and I was like, 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:22.000 we gotta go see Sinners. 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:24.000 Now. His thing is as soon as I see I 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:25.119 say like I want to go see. 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:28.080 A movie, his immediate thing is like he's gonna go 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:29.120 look at rotten tomatoes. 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:31.359 H that is not that person. 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.359 That person and if so written tomatoes number is not 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:38.360 looking like one hundred percent, it's a no. But Sinners 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.480 is damn near one hundred percent for both. It was 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:44.040 percent for both for both for those critics ready and 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:47.000 the tomatometer like that is unheard of for a movie 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.439 to get so high in both. That's how I was 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.760 like able to convince him, and we went straight to 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:52.400 the movie theater. 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:55.200 I was so excited. 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:57.880 I treated myself the day after I got back from 0:17:57.920 --> 0:17:59.639 that road trip. The two died that I'm trying to 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.320 forget it about so hard, so stop talking about it, Mandy. 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:06.080 I got back from this long anyway events, and yeah, 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.520 I went on a Monday by myself to an IMAX 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.440 theater near me, and apparently it's not in every theater, 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:13.200 so I think I'm lucky to live next to one 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:17.639 that has it. Oh yeah, but you know, I was 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:19.840 a little afraid, y'all. I didn't think I liked it. 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.480 I really left the I left the theater so like 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:27.400 I had just gone through something. I felt so raw. 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:31.919 I think I was also, you're tired that it was 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.640 intense AF I don't think it's a spoiler to say 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:36.679 stay through the credits. At this point we all know 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:40.240 stay through the credits. But I wouldn't have gotten up 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.280 if you had paid me. I was so cemented to 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:47.640 my seat with just what did I like so much? 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:49.600 Like the weight and the gravity of it all. I 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:50.680 need to go see it again. 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.000 And I texted my brother right after and I was like, 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:55.280 sinners And he's like, what did you think? He had 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:56.320 also seen the night before. 0:18:56.680 --> 0:19:00.320 Yeah, and I was like, I don't know that I 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.760 loved it, and it's not because like I think that 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:06.040 it's almost It doesn't do it justice to put it 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:07.960 in like the I liked or didn't like a category. 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:08.359 Yeah. 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:12.080 I have thought about that movie every hour of every 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:16.399 day since I saw it, just about I've had dreams 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:21.120 about it. I thought about different scenes. It was art, 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:27.840 I mean, it definitely is. Yeah, It's definitely an incredible film, 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:31.560 a huge film, like a phenomenal film. Am I gonna 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:33.920 want to watch it? Like you know, it's not gonna 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:36.880 be my comfort movie. I'll tell you that for free 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:39.959 and not when I'm having a bad day. But it 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:43.120 was beautifully done and I. 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:48.040 Just have never seen a movie that approaches the topic 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:50.680 in that way, like it's usually you see vampire movies' 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:54.399 is like oh, monsters versus victims. Ah, Like no, this 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:59.680 is like so complex and dynamic, like power, oppression, racism, 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:03.280 Jim Role, Survival of Black Americans in nineteen forty, nineteen thirty, 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:06.480 nineteen forties Mississippi, like what and. 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:11.359 Vampires, music, music, musical vampiresm. 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:14.199 Music, dancing. The cinematography was amazing. 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:20.320 Michael Jordan's movie Michael Not One. 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:20.920 But Girl I loved. 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:23.480 I thought it was incredible in terms of artistic and 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:28.040 creative expression, the interweaving of like the message around the 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:33.199 music and black culture, and it being taken by not 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:35.480 coincidentally a white vampire. 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.520 No white white man vampires were. 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:45.119 Given to him by a by a one movie or line. 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:49.080 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was just it was a lot. 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:50.080 It was a lot of layers. 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.960 I can't like no spoilers, I know, I was okay, 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:53.959 I'm really excited. 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:54.879 I'm really hyped up. 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:57.360 Yeah yeah, girl, I think you're going to have a time. 0:20:57.400 --> 0:21:00.680 You going with your booth, hag or are you going? No? No, no, no, 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:01.720 he doesn't live here. 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:05.040 Oh well, you're gonna love it regardless. It's definitely the 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:06.639 type of movie where. Actually I was just talking to 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:07.000 my friend. 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:09.640 If y'all don't follow him, definitely go ty Alan Jackson 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:11.080