1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody. 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Buck back with you, Buck. 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 2: What is the word man? 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 3: Not too much DJ. Just getting ready for it man, 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 3: another weekend. 7 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 4: It's crazy, like we spent so much of the offseason 8 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 4: like looking forward to the regular season popping off, and 9 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 4: I mean once you get to training camp, but once 10 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 4: you get to that first week of the preseason, I mean, 11 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 4: it's like the hamster being on the wheel. It is 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 4: al really crazy that we're in the middle of the 13 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 4: week and we're looking ahead to the weekends games and 14 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 4: getting into preseason two, and then we know, like this 15 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 4: is kind of it. This is the big one for 16 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 4: the starters. If they don't play in joint practice, is 17 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 4: this week. I mean, you know, like this is it 18 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 4: because theyre not going to play the final week of 19 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 4: the season preseason. So it is crazy how fast he 20 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 4: goes once we get started and how close we are 21 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 4: to the regular. 22 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: Season kicking off in the beginning of September. 23 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're right there. 24 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: College football really right around the corner, and we won't 25 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: forget about college football once that gets cranked up. We'll 26 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: sprinkle some of that stuff into the pod. But one 27 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: of the things I want to do today is just 28 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: really focus on these rookies. We talked about the quarterbacks 29 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: and their performance in Monday's episode, had chance to dig 30 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: into some of these other guys. I want to focus 31 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: on the defensive first rounders buck as well as the 32 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: offensive lineman first rounders. 33 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: I thought that'd be a good place to dig in 34 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 2: and we kind of evaluate. It gets brief. 35 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: It's a brief snapshot, but I do think you can 36 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: tell if guys belong on an NFL field, if they 37 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: look out of place in that first exposure, and then 38 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: also maybe what some expectations are for them going forward. 39 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: So let's jump into it. Let's start first of all here, 40 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: let's go with Leatu Latu. I think one of your 41 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: favorite players in the entire draft. We got a chance 42 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: to see him for the Colts, had to tackle, had 43 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: a pressure just I was impressed the same stuff again. 44 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: You want to see him look like they did in college. 45 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: His hands are really good, got kind of a little 46 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: he's got kind of that little Euro step jump move, 47 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: and he's you know, polished with his hands. I thought 48 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: he got held one time. I think it was Bolls 49 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: out there at left tackle. I thought kind of hooked him, 50 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 1: but I just thought he looked the same. He looked 51 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: the same technician. He's gonna he's gonna beat you with that, 52 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: And I thought, you know, he had one nice long arm. 53 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: To where he flashed a little bit of power. 54 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: But I came away from that thinking that was very 55 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: similar to the look that we saw of him at 56 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: UCLA the last couple years. 57 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 58 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 4: No, he's a He's a very talented and skill pass 59 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 4: rush and the other skill that he possesses outside of 60 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 4: the full array of moves is just how hard he plays. 61 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 4: And we've talked about effort being a skill, and you 62 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 4: can just see where in Gus Bradley's defense, which I 63 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 4: think is like the perfect fit for him, you can 64 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 4: see where he's going to be a problem because it's 65 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 4: very simple. He's going to allow layout to to just 66 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 4: kind of go and do his thing and he's going 67 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 4: to wear people out. I just think his relentlessness is 68 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 4: going to lead to double digit sex right away as 69 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: a rookie, and this defense is going to benefit from 70 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 4: having two I would say similar athletes on the edge 71 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 4: is in Quitty pay On one side and Layoutu Latu 72 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 4: on the other side. 73 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the things he does really well is 74 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: if you kind of give him a hand, so we 75 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: don't see really two punching much anymore, so just kind 76 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: of you get that one hand out there. He's really 77 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: good at knocking that hand out real quick. I'll be 78 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: curious to see if the more people play against him, 79 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: if they're going to challenge his you know, hey, we're 80 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: going to challenge him with power a little bit more. 81 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: So we'll be patient with. 82 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: Our hands and we're going to let him try and 83 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: get to us first, which is usually a no no 84 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: for tackles. But he's so adept and so good knocking 85 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: hands down. Almost curious to see if people are going 86 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: to be a little more patient when they're when they're 87 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: setting against him. But I thought, overall, impressive first debut 88 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: performance there by Layoutu Latu with the Colts. 89 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 2: All Right, to me, the best in show of the rookie. 90 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: Defensive players is the next one I'm going to get to, 91 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: and that was Byron Murphy. I saw him live. It 92 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: was impressive when you're watching it live. It was more 93 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: impressive when I watched the tape. But this is someone 94 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: who when you watch him at Texas, you know all 95 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: the same words that showed up over and over again. Quickness, leverage, power, 96 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: that ability to anchor versus those angle blocks for somebody 97 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: who's not, you know, not a huge guy, he's got 98 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: just incredible balance and core strength. And then also showed 99 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: in this game, you know buck as a nose or 100 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: somebody that's going to play inside, you've got somebody that 101 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: can you know, can win right now early with quickness, 102 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: but he's not afraid to put his hand in your 103 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: chest and walk you right back to the quarterback too. 104 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: It was it was impressive there. 105 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 4: They got a stud No, they did get a study, 106 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 4: and you just talk about I mean DJ Like look, 107 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 4: the run on offensive players in the draft was surprising 108 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 4: because in normal instances you talk about the two guys 109 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 4: that we just mentioned law to one and Environ Murphy too, 110 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 4: they would have been top ten picks. 111 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 3: We watched him play. 112 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: They earned top ten grades based on their potential disruption 113 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 4: that they could create at the line of scrimmage. And 114 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 4: Murphy is as advertised. You see an explosive athlete, you 115 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 4: see a strong, dominant athlete at the point of attack, 116 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 4: and like given what Mike McDonald has done, it's easy 117 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 4: to envision him playing the role that justin a wiki 118 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 4: blade and dominated in. I just think he set up 119 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 4: for success in a defense that really is built to 120 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 4: showcase his talents. 121 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going back through my notes on him 122 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: and just pulled him up. I had ed Oliver on there. 123 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: And can roll his hips, twitch, you can jump gaps, 124 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: he can change directions, incredible balance to go to a 125 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: knee and hold the point of attack. 126 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: He plays with leverage. 127 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: I mean all that stuff just you know, look, it's 128 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: it's one exposure, but it showed up. 129 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: It showed up early. It was impressive. Let's go to 130 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: the Vikings. 131 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: They got Dallas Turner, who I thought was, you know, 132 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: was a stud coming out of college, and he played 133 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: really well. He had He had a sack, two quarterback hits, 134 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: burst and bend. That's what he showed. I mean, he 135 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: can get to the top of the rush, he can corner. 136 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: He looked fast and explosive, he was getting off the ball. 137 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 2: There maybe one or. 138 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: Two plays where I thought, okay, plays away, I'd see 139 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: a little bit more tenacious effort on that stuff. But overall, man, 140 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: I thought, you know again, he's long, he's loose, he's fast. 141 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: All that stuff showed up. 142 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: I mean, so I just feel like with the guys 143 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 4: that we talk about, like their superpowers stand out, and 144 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 4: in the preseason they should stand out because it's you know, 145 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 4: you're playing against like athletes, Like it's not quite where 146 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 4: you're playing the number one, So you basically playing against 147 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 4: college are all stars and those guys, and so you 148 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 4: should be able to flash and dominate and do those things. 149 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 4: And so when somebody brings all of those individual traits 150 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 4: to the table, you expect them to shine. And so 151 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 4: for me as an evaluator, I look at the check 152 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 4: in the right, you check off the box. You're like, hey, 153 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 4: that's good going into the preseason. Now, let's see if 154 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 4: we can give him more and see if you continue 155 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 4: to add to it and add more disruption, more playmate. 156 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: Let's get to another defensive lineman here. Let's go to 157 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: Darius Robinson against the Saints, how to tackle. Can move 158 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 1: around a little bit, buck. He looks lean and long. 159 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: I mean he looks you know, because I thought he 160 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: was one of those guys who could have gone up 161 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: or down. And wait, I'm curious to see what he weighs, 162 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: but you know, he looked lean and quick and someone 163 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: who's got he's just got some real snap to him. 164 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: So I thought he was an intriguing player coming into 165 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: the draft, and I thought watching that game, he's got 166 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: some knock back to him. He's just got some explosiveness 167 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: to him. But really, more than anything, ouse, I just thought, man, 168 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: he looked good. He looked lean and and I like 169 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: the way that he kind of went with that. Do 170 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: we always have these guys like every year there's one 171 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: of these guys like, Okay, he's gonna show up, he's 172 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: gonna bulke up and go in, and is he gonna 173 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: lean out and stay outside? He looked good on the outside, man, I. 174 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 4: Mean like these guys man, I just think you talk 175 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 4: about the guys that we've all mentioned, DJ were the 176 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 4: ones when you looked at the tape, they all had 177 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 4: great motors. 178 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: They all played hard, and we've talked about it. 179 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 4: It's underrated in the evaluation process in terms of just 180 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: finding guys who play hard, because effort and energy can 181 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 4: really overcome a lot of like shortcomings when it comes 182 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 4: to like being in wrong spot, not knowing, not having everything. 183 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: But if you play hard, man, you can kind of 184 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 4: fall into plays in those things. And so when you 185 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 4: talk about where he leaned out or where he bucked 186 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 4: up whatever, Uh, I think that didn't matter. I think 187 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 4: he's just retaining that that hunger and that desire to ay, 188 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be. 189 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: The hardest work. I'm gonna be a worker beyond the 190 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: on the edge. 191 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 4: I'm gonna make things happen just because I outworked the 192 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: person in front of it. 193 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, no question. Let's get to uh, let's get to 194 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: the secondary here. Quiny and Mitchell almost had a pick. 195 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: He looked comfortable, he looked you know, he didn't play 196 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: a ton. We look comfortable, he looked fast. He's gonna 197 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: be a really really good player. I've heard he's had 198 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: a phenomenal camp, And to me, I was impressed by 199 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: what I saw there. Again, wasn't there for a long time, 200 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: but just h he looked a part one percent. And 201 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: I also saw, by the way side note that it 202 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: looks like Cooper Degene is getting kind of mixed into 203 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: practice now getting him back for the Eagles. So I'm 204 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: excited to see that young secondary. But he's he's a stud. 205 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: He's gonna be really really good. 206 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 4: So it's a scope of things that I'm excited about 207 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 4: when it came when it comes to the Eagles, it's 208 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 4: not only the personnel, the young personnel, because we were 209 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 4: excited about Quenya Mitchell, super excited about Cooper Gene and 210 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 4: what they can add. But I am really excited to 211 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 4: see how Vic Fangio changes the way they do business 212 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 4: in Philadelphia. You've already heard the reports about one more conditioning, 213 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 4: more plays. There's a different atmosphere in terms of like 214 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 4: how they're preparing and getting ready for the season and 215 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 4: how they're gonna get ready in the regular season. To me, 216 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 4: this is what this team needed, because it's funny because 217 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 4: we spend so much time talking about the epic collapse 218 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 4: that we forget that this team went out to a 219 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 4: ten and one start. I mean, they were a dominant 220 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 4: team that was rolling and then it fell apart. The 221 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 4: talent is there. To me, it's about the toughness, and 222 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 4: then it's about just making sure that the coaches get 223 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 4: this team to bring the necessary tenacity each and every week. 224 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: Today. 225 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 4: If they do that, man, they're gonna they're gonna run 226 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 4: through their thing. Because they're talented, they're more talented than 227 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 4: most teams in the league. Then the upper echelon talent 228 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 4: on the roster, if they can get the team to 229 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 4: play the right way. Look me, you talk about double digits, 230 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 4: high double digits always in the conversation from the number 231 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 4: one seeds. 232 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: Well, well, I think they're gonna be a really, really 233 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: good team. And you know, Vic Fangio curious to see 234 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: how it all comes once we get to week one. 235 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: There next corner here, Terry and Arnold just didn't get 236 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: any action bucket. 237 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: You know, watch the tape. 238 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: He looked comfortable carrying verticals, man underneath his own. His 239 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: eyes were where they needed to be. Just didn't get tested, 240 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: didn't get challenged. So not much else to take from that. 241 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: But I always come back to do you look the 242 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: part you move around? Well, you look confident, comfortable. He 243 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: passed all those tests, he just didn't get any work. 244 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: So hopefully we get a chance to see him get 245 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: challenged a little bit as we go forward. Let's uh, 246 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: let's get to the last one here on the defensive 247 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: side of the ball, and that's Nate Wiggins, the most 248 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: action man. 249 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: He got challenged. 250 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: Uh, some reason, they decided they wanted to go out 251 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: him and he was. 252 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 2: Up for it. 253 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: Three PBUs he had three tackles, including a tackle for 254 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: loss where he kind of closed real quick on a 255 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: on a bubble on a quick hitter, made a low 256 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: tackle there. There was another time down on the red zone. 257 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: Wasn't sure that he was where he necessarily needed to 258 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: be on a run. You know, run fits are still 259 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: going to be you know that's going to be the question, 260 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: are there? But there is no question whether an up 261 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: and press or an off feel instincts, fluidity, you know, 262 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: find and play the ball. 263 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: Man. 264 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 2: He can do all that stuff really really well. 265 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 266 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 4: No, I like that and I like the way he plays. Look, 267 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: I think the talent was never in question. I think 268 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 4: the toughness and the tackling technique are the things that 269 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 4: you worry about, and I think you'll continue to have 270 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 4: worries about that. At his size, the way the game 271 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 4: is played on the perimeter, you can't hire guys and 272 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 4: he could be a great cover corner, but he's going 273 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 4: to have to be able to tackle one on one 274 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 4: in space. And it's not just what we're talking about 275 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 4: tackling running backs. It's the size of the receivers. We've 276 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 4: seen these two hundred and twenty pounds receivers that run 277 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 4: through arm tackles. Can you count on him to be 278 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 4: able to get those guys down when they run the 279 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 4: bubble screens and tunnel screens and fly sweeps and all 280 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:49,479 Speaker 4: of that stuff. 281 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: Adam, Can you count on them? 282 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 4: That is the number one thing that's going to be 283 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 4: that's going to determine whether he is a high end 284 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 4: player that we talk about in the Denzel Award category 285 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 4: or if he's one of those guys that, hey man, 286 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 4: we talk about hot talented. He is, but he does 287 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 4: doesn't bring it enough that you can rely on him 288 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 4: to be a Pro Bowl each week. 289 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: And also in that game, he was nicked up, but 290 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: it sounds like not a serious injury, so that's good news. 291 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: Played. 292 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: I think he played forty three snaps, which is a 293 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: lot of work there in the first preseason game with 294 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh and the Ravens. So that's to look there 295 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: at those defensive guys. Again, a couple of them didn't 296 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: we didn't see, including Jared Verst, who I'm excited to 297 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: see it. You know, maybe they maybe they keep him 298 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: a bubble wrap till we get to the regular season. 299 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: He's been great training camp by all accounts, all the 300 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: videos you've seen for practice, you know, he's looked great. 301 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 2: So excited to see him. 302 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: Maybe it's not till the real game start, who knows, 303 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: but that's what we saw from the rookies this first 304 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: week on the defensive side of the ball. I want 305 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: to get to the offensive lineman. Buck, But let's take 306 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: a quick break. We'll come back and we'll knock those out. 307 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: All right, Buck, let's start. 308 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: First of all, Joe Alt, that was the decision Jim 309 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: Harbaugh Joe Ortiz had to make their top of the draft. 310 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: Where do they want to go? Do they want to 311 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 2: go with the receiver? Do they want to go with 312 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: the tackle. 313 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: They decided to go with the tackle, and Joe Alt 314 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: he's a left at Notre Dame who's moved over to 315 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: right with Rashaun Slater already in place there with the Chargers. 316 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: First of all, he looked huge on video as well 317 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: as when you see him in person. He looks the 318 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: part moved well. You know, it was interesting watching it live. Chinninuoso, 319 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: former Charger Seahawk edge rusher, got into his pads, got 320 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: into his chests, kind of walked him back to Eastern 321 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: Stick and it kind of affected the throw for an incompletion, 322 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: and you're seeing it live and you're like, man, okay, 323 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: that was only negative rep. 324 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: I can remember. 325 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: He played a lot, and that was the only one 326 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: that stood out as a negative rep. But then I 327 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: go back and watch the tape buck he actually re 328 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: anchored him. I thought Eastern Stick didn't really feel it, 329 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: you know. I thought Eastern Stick could have kind of 330 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: just taken a step back and kind of got a 331 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: little bit of distance with some pocket awareness there. So 332 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: even as one bad rep quote unquot, it wasn't bad. 333 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: He actually re anchored him and was able to stun 334 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: him and then actually dump them at the end. 335 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 2: Of the play. 336 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: So he was good on combos in the run game. 337 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: He's he looked quick. He can bend for somebody that's 338 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: that big. He's going to be really really good on 339 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: the right side. 340 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, he is going to be good. And you know, 341 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 4: it's funny. Everyone is kind of given. I guess I 342 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 4: said they gave to charges a little a hard time 343 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 4: about whether they take the playmaker or the offensive tackle. 344 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 4: Jim harbar Early talked about like offensive skill players being 345 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 4: offensive linemen and how they impact the entire team and 346 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 4: for Joe allt like, I just think about him and 347 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 4: Rashaan Slater just being solid bookends for the next decade, 348 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 4: Like just being able to comfortably say, hey, man, we 349 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 4: got two elite level, elite caliber offensive tackles around the 350 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 4: quarterback and then just filling into pieces on the interior, 351 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 4: which I think is much easier to do going from 352 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 4: left to right. You wonder how long it would take 353 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 4: him to be able to adapt and adjust, But. 354 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 3: I mean to due to solid man. I do played 355 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 3: a lot of snaps. 356 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 4: And really hild his own I think you have to 357 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 4: be pleased at that debut performance. 358 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just to me again, it's it's it's a 359 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: pretty simple test. Do you look like you belong? Can 360 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: you move? Can you bend? All all those things? They 361 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: were there? 362 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: You saw that on display there from Joel, So I'm 363 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: excited about him. It's j C. 364 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: Latham with the Tennessee Titans playing on the left side. Look, 365 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: he can again quick You saw in the run game 366 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: the ability to leverage and and. 367 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: Just people move. 368 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: I thought got caught on one rush in pass pro 369 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: where it just can get a little bit flat footed 370 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: it's all in there. It was just kind of a 371 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, brief exposure there, but body type wise looked great. 372 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: He's on the left side there again. I think that's 373 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: he's going to be ahead. He's going to be more 374 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: advances in the run game than he is in the 375 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: past game. I just have to learn and grow. But man, 376 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: he's incredibly talented buck and he's just a massive, massive 377 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: human being that can move. 378 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 379 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 4: I mean you just thinking about size, like size, strength, power, 380 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 4: just being able to dominate people at the point of attack. 381 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 4: I mean, we could talk about a bunch of different things, 382 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: and it's not always pretty when you have guys that 383 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 4: are just kind of built like that, but being able 384 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 4: to get it done and you want to add physicality 385 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 4: and toughness to the mix. 386 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 3: It just changes the dynamic. But he's a really good player. 387 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 4: And I would say this like all those guys were 388 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 4: kind of graded together. We talked about cluster busters and 389 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 4: this and that. I can't say that I had him 390 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: at the top of the chain, but I can see 391 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 4: why there was some fascination about him. 392 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 3: All right. 393 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: This next one that brings up an interesting scouting point here. 394 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: Olufashana with the Jets. I thought he looked awesome, like 395 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: outstanding the way he moved in run game, pass game, 396 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: quick band agility, all that stuff. And the interesting thing 397 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: I was thinking of, I'm like, man, he just looks 398 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: so different, Like the way he's moving looks so different. 399 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: And you know, I was reminded a lot of these colleges, 400 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: and I know he'd had an injury as well, but 401 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: a lot of these colleges brace up their lineman when 402 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: you take those knee braces off, like you just look 403 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: you just move better, you know what I mean. Like 404 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: I don't even know what it is. It just you 405 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: look clunky with those knee braces on. But I understand 406 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: why they're doing it. They're protecting their guys. And you know, 407 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: some programs do it on all their offensive line, they 408 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: double brace them. I know he'd had a knee, so 409 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: maybe that's what it was, but something about him being 410 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: streamlined out there buck, I just thought, man, he just 411 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: looks so much more athletic than he did the last 412 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: I saw him at Penn State. But man, he looked 413 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: like he looked like a ten year starting left tackle 414 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 1: in the NFL. 415 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: It's a brief exposure, I get it. 416 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: But some guys you can just tell how they move 417 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: and all that, and I was like, Okay, he's he's 418 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: going to be really good. 419 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, just really good, really good player moves around. 420 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 4: Well, the talent is there, and then it's just a 421 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 4: matter of putting it all together. And we, like in 422 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 4: the scouting world, we are always trying to make the 423 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 4: debate between our production and projection. And sometimes when you 424 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 4: see people with a prototypical things, you just like, hey man, 425 00:17:58,800 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 4: there has to be some development. 426 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,719 Speaker 3: It's done. We got to put onus on the coaches 427 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 3: to develop him. 428 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 4: And when you talk about taking the clunky braces off 429 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 4: and Washington move. 430 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 3: Around those things. 431 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 4: I'm telling you, man, that the best advice that I 432 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 4: ever got from an old line guy when it came 433 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 4: to scating guys. He's like, looky, guys that are always 434 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 4: off the ground enough to do whatever he said. The 435 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 4: other stuff can be taught, but they're constantly off the ground. 436 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 4: They can bounce around like cat. That gives you a 437 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 4: chance to be able to develop him. And he exhibits 438 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 4: some of those qualities. 439 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 2: Yep. 440 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: And I think the Jets have to feel good about 441 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: that about their really their left tackle of the future. 442 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes with the two vets they have, 443 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,239 Speaker 1: if they can keep those guys healthy. But he's going 444 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: to force his way into the field one way or 445 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: the other. Saints Talisi Fuaga one of my favorites in 446 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: the draft buck, but he's playing left tackle, just I had. 447 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: He's ahead in the run game than he is in 448 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: the past game some of the you know, the one 449 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: concern that I had about him was just you know, 450 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: he can get a little over aggressive and duck his head. 451 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: That showed up in passed Pro. I'm going by through 452 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: my notes here. Played on the right side obviously there 453 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: at Oregon State. He's playing the left side there, so 454 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: that's a switch. He's got quick feet, he can sink 455 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: in anchor. Just had some real nasty you saw that 456 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: in the in the run game and just some balanced 457 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: stuff there. Just got a little a little overextended a 458 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: couple of times. But I think, you know, he needs 459 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: to relax. That was his first time out there, play 460 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: a little bit more under control. But again in the 461 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: run game, he can move people, that's for sure. But 462 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, he's got he's got work to do. 463 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: He's still got work to do. There at left tackle. 464 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean it's a hard transition, but yeah, 465 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 4: there's plenty of work to do and early it's one 466 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 4: preseason game, so you try not to overreact to it, 467 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 4: but you make notes on it, and what you want 468 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 4: to do is you want to track it over the 469 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 4: next two games, and you want to track it over 470 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 4: the first half of the season. 471 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 3: DJ. 472 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 4: We've seen guys that have gotten off to slow starts 473 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 4: their rookie season week six, week seven, and then the 474 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 4: light clicks, and so that might be the. 475 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 3: Situation with him. 476 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 4: The talent is there, it's about the consistent and see 477 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 4: and can he learned how to play at a high 478 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 4: level down after down after down. 479 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 3: I mean, that's the difference. That's what separates good from great. 480 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: In this league, I feel like we have a lot 481 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: of these guys that are flopping sides from where they were, 482 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: and not just from left to right, but also from 483 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: right to left. Fuaga went from right to left. I 484 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 1: mean it's so left to right, which is. 485 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 4: A hard transition. I think from right to left isn't 486 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 4: even more difficult. But even though in the league now 487 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: people are putting their pass rushes on both sides, like 488 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 4: you can't hide again. 489 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: There's no longer the. 490 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: Footwork and the and just everything's backwards. You know, as 491 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: they used to say, be like wiping with your other hand. 492 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 4: I this is it's the same analogy. I was about 493 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 4: to use Tristan Wordz talking about wiping your booty. 494 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 3: With yeah hand. Yeah, No, it's it's different. 495 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 4: And I don't know, like DJ like when I when 496 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 4: I'm scouting, I know it does have to change the 497 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 4: way that you you view it, because remember, for so 498 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 4: long we used to view leftock was just at LEFTOC 499 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 4: because we rarely made a projection from right to left. 500 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 4: If it was, it would be like he he's a 501 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 4: left tackle the college, we can go to right, but 502 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 4: it never was im. 503 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 2: Reverse, Yeah, the other way. 504 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 4: That's a different transition because that position used to be 505 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 4: a maller brawler, road grader type position. But now, because 506 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: of the way people are deploying their pass rushes on 507 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 4: both sides, guy has to be numble enough to be 508 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 4: able to hold up and pass bro Yeah. 509 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: And speaking of guys who flip sides, Troy Fatano, who 510 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: was at left at Washington, he is playing right tackle 511 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: for the Steelers, and I thought it was an uneven 512 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: performance for him, some of the same stuff that I 513 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: just said about Fuaga. Fatano just got a little over 514 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: his skiez a little bit. I thought he got into 515 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: his chest a little bit at times as well. You know, 516 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: I think he was thinking. Just watching the tape, it 517 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: felt like he was thinking too much. He's a real 518 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: natural athlete. He can bend. That was something you really 519 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: saw there at Washington and kind of reanchored do all 520 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: those things, even like on some of the polls getting 521 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 1: him out in space, I didn't think he just was 522 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: cutting it loose like he did at Washington. I thought 523 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: he was just kind of a little measured, looked like 524 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: he wasn't totally comfortable. I will say this, he got 525 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: better from the beginning of the game some struggles. I 526 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: thought he got better throughout the game the more that 527 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,959 Speaker 1: he played. So there's no I'm not sounding any alarms 528 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: here as somebody who I really really liked in the 529 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: draft process. But I thought of all these guys, I 530 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: thought he looked like he was a little more measured 531 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 1: and trying to just get comfortable and feel things out 532 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. 533 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 4: You know, that's the one thing that you can't predict. 534 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 4: You can't predict how schematics are going to slow someone 535 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 4: down in terms of learning and understanding. And because when 536 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 4: that prey to everyone's system, we don't know all of 537 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 4: the tags and little subtle adjustments in those things that 538 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 4: they're having to kind of sort out in their mind 539 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 4: in between plays or at the snap when things are 540 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 4: moving and shifting immediately. So hopefully in time he will 541 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 4: settle in as he began, as he begins to get 542 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 4: a better understanding of the assignment, the playbook and those things. 543 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 4: At the end of the day, man, you want you 544 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 4: guys to play fast, You want to be physical, you 545 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 4: want to play free from clutter. So hopefully he can 546 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 4: find a way to get that happy around. 547 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: Yep, let's get to a couple more here, a couple 548 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: more tackles. I'll rip to these guys quick because I 549 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: know we're getting short on time today. But Tyler Geiden 550 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: was outstanding for the Cowboys. He is incredibly long. He 551 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: is an easy, easy, easy mover for someone who hadn't 552 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: played a ton buck. I came away from that tape 553 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: feeling like they got their their tackle, their left tackle 554 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: for the future. Put him out there, let him run. 555 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: He's gonna be fine. He was excellent, and then I'll 556 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: get to Mims real quick. Kind of a stalemate day 557 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: for MEMS. So his feet get a little static, but 558 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: he's massive and a lot of draws, which offensive lineman 559 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: draws or wins. Right, you're not giving up stuff draws 560 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: or wins. But I thought he could just be a 561 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: little more active with his feet, especially in the run game. 562 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, just so just a huge, big body. I mean, 563 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 4: you just talked about the mountain of a man, and 564 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 4: you're right, DJ, like Steale Maates are okay, Like if 565 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 4: it's socking, we can get him to penalty kicks in 566 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 4: the shootout like that. 567 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: That's a good job. 568 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 4: And so he's able to kind of do that stave 569 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 4: them off and not necessarily dominate him. 570 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 3: But he didn't lose. 571 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 4: And if you're able to get that effort on the perimeter, 572 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 4: it gives you a chance. 573 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 3: And so Man's off to a solid start. 574 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: Last one Graham Barton for the bucks. Maybe I saved 575 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: the best for last nice and light. He was awesome. 576 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: You talk about someone at center who can reach, someone 577 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: who can climb up to the second level, someone who 578 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: understands angles, someone who's got snap in his hands and 579 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: in his hips. Finish Ah, man, it's one exposure. But 580 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: if you're gonna say offensive or defensive lineman Rookie of 581 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: the week Week one, I'll go Byron Murphy with what 582 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: I saw from him. And if you're gonna ask me 583 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, the most impressive was Graham Barton. 584 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 4: So you talk about a guy who played multiple positions 585 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 4: at the line of doing his time at Duke, and 586 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 4: that's how we talked to him. His intelligence and his 587 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 4: instincts and awareness. We knew that would would would be 588 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 4: off the charts. But the athleticism, the movement skills that 589 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 4: he displayed, just how easy it is for him to 590 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 4: move around and do those things. 591 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 3: Uh, he's as advertised you the bucks, You're you're excited about. 592 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 4: What he rings and how he upgrades your officeive line, 593 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 4: office of line that is already featuring Tristan WARF's like 594 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 4: a dominant How you're. 595 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: Going to be They're gonna be good man up front, 596 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: They're gonna be really good. Those are two studs. I was, yeah, 597 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: I'm all in, sign me up for Graham Barton. I'm 598 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: in on that one. He was excellent. All right, that's 599 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: gonna that's gonna wrap it up for today, and look 600 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: at some of these rookies and how they played in 601 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: week one. We've got one more episode coming your way 602 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: this week, so be on the lookout for that and 603 00:25:43,760 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: we'll see you next time right here on, Move the sticks.