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Speaker 5: So this is this becomes the new compounded interests. Right

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Speaker 1: to it's getting increasingly hard hard to make that argument

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00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: because there's so much access to information. There wasn't always

437
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 1: access to information. Back previously it was it was illegal

438
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 1: to read. Previously, information was hidden. You didn't even have

439
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: an opportunity to be educated, so you you were purposely

440
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 1: left ignorant. Now it's it's becoming increasingly difficult to have

441
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: that same level of empathy for adults because at some

442
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: point you see something on social media and you decide

443
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: not to watch it. You see something you it's somebody's

444
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: giving you some level of information at some point, everybody

445
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: at this point, and you're you're making a decision to

446
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: be like, nah, that's not for me.

447
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 5: The access to information, the barriers a solo at this

448
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 5: point that it is a conscious decision that you're making

449
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 5: to not be educated straight up there. I don't know

450
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 5: how many entrepreneurs that we've spoken to who have become

451
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 5: successful who haven't said, I watched you to TV, but

452
00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 5: prior to earn your leisure right, I watched you.

453
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 2: I did this. I was for free, for free, just

454
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: to learn. I just happened to watch it, or I

455
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: could watch Bad.

456
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 4: Buddies video shout out to beneath a shout out.

457
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: I'm knocking.

458
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,719
Speaker 5: Got a bunch of billion viewge videos. But like, these

459
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 5: are choices, we're making them.

460
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, at what point, what age do you think

461
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 4: we should make the cut off from being entertained to

462
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 4: learning to make our lives better.

463
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 3: It's difficult.

464
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 4: What would you tell your son, Let's say that.

465
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 3: I mean, you got to understand certain level.

466
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Speaker 1: It's hard to for me personally, I was I never

467
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: I was always on that my whole entire life.

468
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 3: I always was on I was I always obviously listen

469
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 3: to music. I listen.

470
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Speaker 1: I'm in the culture, so I'm not like a you know,

471
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: a monk, but I was always I always had a

472
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: more serious demeanor since I was young.

473
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 3: I always was on that type of time.

474
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Speaker 1: Like I read Rich Da Boy Dad when I was seventeen,

475
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: eighteen years old, Like that was like a whole you know,

476
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: Bible for me. As far as education is concerned, that's

477
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: probably like what a lot of fifty year old don't know.

478
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: But even before that, I was always interested. I was

479
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: interested in stocks, I was interested in business, you know,

480
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: it's you know that somebody's making money. That's how I

481
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: always look at like somebody's making money, so I'm interested

482
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: to know who's making money, and then how can I

483
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: make money? So to answer your question, it's difficult, I think,

484
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: you know, because you can't have those same level of

485
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: expectations for kids.

486
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think there's an intersection.

487
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 5: I think what makes us unique, and I think it's

488
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 5: what's made us unique since we were younger, was that

489
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 5: we were able to find information inside of the entertainment.

490
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 5: I think we got this. Yeah, I think we would

491
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 5: have the ability to decode some of the messages. I

492
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 5: think we were able to break down and have, you know,

493
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 5: a common understanding when it came to music, especially when

494
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 5: it came to sports, it was yes, this is entertainment,

495
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 5: but yes this is business.

496
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 2: Why do you get this contract? Who's who's his advisor?

497
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: Who's his age?

498
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 4: Like?

499
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 5: Those are the kind of conversations that we were having,

500
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 5: on top of having the ones that obviously in the barbershop,

501
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 5: you know when you're in school, so you can't alienate

502
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,719
Speaker 5: them from it because there's lessons to be learned inside

503
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 5: of it. We had the conversation with Lauren, and she

504
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 5: was talking about roadblocks and like, there's an intersection there,

505
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 5: and we've said just plenty of times, yes, kids enjoyed,

506
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 5: let's meet the winner at let's tell them that this

507
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 5: is a publicly traded company.

508
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: So it's just about finding the intersections.

509
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 5: I don't think we can cut off the age and say,

510
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 5: you know what at thirteen, you know longer watching this.

511
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 5: Can you put time restrictions on some of it?

512
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

513
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,479
Speaker 5: Can you incorporate education inside of some of it, of course,

514
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 5: and then you're going to have the real world experiences

515
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 5: that you can provide for them as well.

516
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Speaker 2: So I think it's a mixture.

517
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Speaker 5: I don't think it's a cutoff because had that been

518
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 5: cut off for me and I can maybe I could

519
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 5: speak for him as well.

520
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Speaker 2: I don't know where we would be without music. I

521
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 2: don't know where we would be without sports.

522
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I just said it's the last thing I'll

523
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: say about this. I just don't understand how you don't

524
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: want to just take your life serious. And like I said,

525
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: even for me, it wasn't like I was in business

526
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: my whole life. When I was playing basketball, like that's

527
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: what I was doing all day. I was going to

528
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: I was trying to better myself because I felt like

529
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: that was a pathway to me. Never I never was

530
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: a gamer. Not not to knock that, but I'm just

531
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: saying that's not what I was doing. I was never

532
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: a gamer. I was never somebody that was just smoking

533
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: weed like I. Of course you get introduced to that

534
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 1: and that's a decision that's easy to make. But I

535
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: was always serious, Like I always was serious about my life,

536
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 1: like I want to do something I want I want

537
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: to just be a regular person. I want to be

538
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: a special person. So I don't understand how you can

539
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: just have so much complacency. It's just it's difficult for

540
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: me to comprehend because it's just so much serious stuff

541
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: that's going on. Like I said, no matter what you

542
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 1: want to do, like whatever you want to do with

543
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: your life, you only get one shot at it. So

544
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: why would you not take it serious? Like why would

545
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: you get an opportunity to breathe every single day?

546
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: It's a blessing?

547
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 2: Is that the defense mechanism that kicks in? Right?

548
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 5: If I pretend that does not happening, If ignor that's

549
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 5: what it is, that's not happening because my life is

550
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 5: there's so much real happening in my life that I

551
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 5: need to be distracted by the realness of it.

552
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 2: Now you feel like it's a mechanism.

553
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a defense mechanism.

554
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: You think that it's just a it's a thing where

555
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: people don't have that same level of urgency. Like I said,

556
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: if you look at it from a standpoint of like

557
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: it's a blessing. You're actually blessed to be able to walk,

558
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 1: stand up and breathe. That's a blessing. There's a lot

559
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: of people that are incarcerated, there's a lot of people

560
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: that's dead. There's a lot of people that aren't physically

561
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,719
Speaker 1: able to even operate or mentally able to operate. So

562
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: if you have a sound mind and a sound body,

563
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: that's that's a blessing. I think it's disrespectful to just

564
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: take that blessing and just do nothing with your life

565
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: or do minimum amount.

566
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 3: Everybody.

567
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: Everybody has the ability to be great in certain areas.

568
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: So you could be the best carpenter, you could be

569
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: the best investor. Like they said, the master investor, what

570
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: is he gonna say? The average investor? Like, why would

571
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: you say? Why would you why would you strive for mediocrity?

572
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: Like we say we're the biggest, what we're supposed to

573
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: say with the smallest, Like people get offended at or

574
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: they say they arrogant. They saying he's arrogant. He's saying

575
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: he's a master investor, Like well, what are you saying

576
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: you're you're your best thing?

577
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 4: Because why weren't you putting out the information before I

578
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,239
Speaker 4: did it? They drugged me on. I didn't even want

579
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 4: to be show my face on camera. They're like, no,

580
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 4: you gotta like if you're gona do a YouTube show,

581
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 4: you gotta put up a camera. You should have made

582
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 4: two tech and that never show your face killing last year.

583
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 4: But it's like even when I put up that post,

584
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 4: shout out to my Guyso I was like, yo, stand

585
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 4: aside for two years. That's a small sacrifice. Like when

586
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 4: I asked Kyrie like how long were you playing to

587
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 4: get to the league, He's like, bro, what you mean

588
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 4: every day since age? That's what I dreamed about When

589
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 4: I met Kyrie. He was doing Trooper thread in front

590
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 4: of me and I'm like, I ain't playing, I ain't

591
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 4: not sold from a butter friend. You got me, I

592
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 4: can hur you what It shows the level of passion.

593
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 4: And the thing that we're really trying to convey is

594
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 4: like you have to have passion for something every day,

595
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 4: you have to get after it. Even when we were

596
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 4: traveling around, these are still our talks. Yeah, your one life,

597
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 4: you choose, And this is what I will say for

598
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 4: everybody who goes outside all the time, who parties a lot,

599
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 4: and y'all, like, I'm seeing a bunch of people looking

600
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 4: like they're happy when they're out. When I see you

601
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 4: in real life, you look miserable. It's better to have

602
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 4: the real life that you're really happy about when you

603
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 4: don't got a post, than to pretend like you're posting

604
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 4: for somebody else's media. And I'm telling you like this,

605
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 4: the media that you're posting on don't make that much

606
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 4: money for the people who own the media.

607
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: The last thing I want to say about this because

608
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: you brought up a good point and I've been meaning

609
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: to talk about this for a while because we spend

610
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: a lot of time in Atlanta and we go out

611
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: all the time. But I think a celebration is meant

612
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: to celebrate something. So when Drake said, drink it every night,

613
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: because we drink some my accomplishments. There's some truth to that,

614
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: right he actually has he can actually celebrate every single

615
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: night because he's worked hard enough to put himself in

616
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: a position and financially where it's not hurting them. And

617
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: then also he's earned his leisure on that certain level.

618
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: How many black businesses do we need for night clubs

619
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: and we're not even owning the nightclubs or bars or

620
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: hookah lounges, And how many parties can we have?

621
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 3: Right?

622
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: How many? Like it's every single day. It's a variety

623
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: of different options to celebrate. And this is globally. When

624
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: we went to Lagos, Nigeria, when we went to Jamaica,

625
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: black people party at unprecedented levels. This might go back

626
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: to a thing of like suppressing the pain because you

627
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: know that financially globally, we're in the last place globally,

628
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: so everybody's not rich. Everybody that's buying these bottles can't

629
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: afford these bottles. So is it a thing of just saying, like,

630
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna just have fun in this moment, because I.

631
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: Know when I wake up tomorrow is back to you know, pain.

632
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: At some point we got it like and like I said,

633
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: I have fun I'll go to clubs all the time.

634
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: But I'm just a pattern with this where this has

635
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: become an industry once again, going back, we don't even

636
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: own the clubs. It wouldn't even be that bad if

637
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: we actually had real ownership. We don't even own these

638
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: night clubs. We're just promoters. We're party promoters. And where

639
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: the people that's really getting rich off of this are

640
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: the liquor companies which we have no ownership in. We

641
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: heard did he talk about that? And the owners of

642
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: the night clubs which ninety percent of the people that

643
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: own these physical buildings and structures are not black people. Yes,

644
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: and even the people that rent the clubs are not

645
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: black people. Only the black people in this equation are

646
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: the customers, the bottle service girls and security, and the promoters.

647
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 4: That's it.

648
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 3: That's that's the ecosystem of this.

649
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: Strip clubs, lounges, hookah lounges, bars, it's consuming, it's consuming

650
00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: a decaded lifestyle at an extremely high level. That's extremely unproductive.

651
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: Champagne for the pain, and it's every it's everywhere that

652
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: we go. Like I said, this is not track. We

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Speaker 1: went to legos. That's all we did was party and

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Speaker 1: they told me forty percent of the nightclubs were owned

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Speaker 1: by people from bay Root.

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Speaker 2: M hm, was it Lebanon?

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Speaker 3: I think I think bay Root is in Lebanon.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes.

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Speaker 1: So the Lebanese owned the nightclub industry, in the hospitality industry.

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Speaker 1: And Lego, you can't even control your own industry in

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Speaker 1: a black country.

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Speaker 2: We're not doing a city.

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Speaker 4: I keep saying our music culture when we stream all

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Speaker 4: that for the culture ship, not our culture either. Name

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Speaker 4: me nine black music executives that run anything tough, even

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Speaker 4: with yo Adam of Vulture, of Ladi Vulture, how they

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Speaker 4: volture in their own culture. Most of the people who

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Speaker 4: do the negative responses to stuff are not what champagne for,

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Speaker 4: the pains

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Speaker 2: For the leave, for the low