1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: It is the end of another year and time to 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: do Kelsey's top ten books of twenty twenty five. Before 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: we get into it, what do you think was your 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: most read genre of the year. 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: I can tell you what was my most read genre. 6 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: It was historical fiction. Not all World War Two, but 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: historically I get to guess that. Yeah, and then like 8 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 2: literary fiction, thrillers, contemporary fiction, those were the big ones. 9 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: Just plug for the story graph app. If you haven't 10 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: used it, it is by far better than Good Reads 11 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: like bolts it out of the water. 12 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: Breaks down all your books and everything. 13 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool into the month wrap up, still do 14 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: it into the year. So I'm excited to see that, 15 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: and it shows compared to the last month, like how 16 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: many more pages you read? How many more books? I 17 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: like it. 18 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: I would need that app to log one book this year. 19 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't really think I need to app for that, though. 20 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: What one book did you read? 21 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: I read Mark Hoppus's biography. There you go, and I 22 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: read it like a week. 23 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: There you go. 24 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: So that is my book of the year only because 25 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: I only read one book. 26 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: You have some Christmas break reading. You said you were 27 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: going to read Project Tail. 28 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: I have to read Project Hill Mary before the movie 29 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: comes out. 30 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: I got so I feel like Christmas breakspla the best time. 31 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: All right, we're going to get into your list. Now 32 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: are you going? Ten to one? 33 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: They're in no ranked order, no ranked order. 34 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: All right? First book? What do you got? All right? 35 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: Again, no particular order. Book one is The Names by 36 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: Florence Snap. I could talk about this book endlessly for hours. 37 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: It made me feel things, it made me think. So 38 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 2: the premise is how our name sometimes defines our life. 39 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 2: And so the idea is, this woman has a baby, 40 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: and there are three different names she could have given 41 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: this child in three different scenarios, And so each chapter 42 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: goes through that name of the child in different time period, 43 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: So it follows that child throughout their whole life if 44 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: they were named these three things. I can't give any 45 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: more away about why. Like I know that sounds maybe 46 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: like not the best concept. 47 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: I love that concept. That's crazy to think about just 48 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: us as humans, how much just our name has affected 49 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: maybe opportunities we've been given, who we fall in love with. 50 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: Well, And what's cool and what affects it so much 51 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: is in the different scenarios why the kid was named 52 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: that so highly recommend that one phenomenal. I've told everyone 53 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 2: to read it. 54 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: I don't know why you think that's an under sell. 55 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: I think that's a great premise. 56 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: Well, not an under cell. But I just can't say anymore, 57 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: okay about why the names were so impactful without giving 58 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 2: away things that don't get revealed until you're further in 59 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: the book. 60 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: It's like, I never want to hate on somebody for 61 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: naming a kid something, because a kid can't really choose 62 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: what name they get. But sometimes I think when you 63 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: give a kid a name that just sounds like a 64 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 1: kid name, I think about, like what happens when that 65 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: kid is forty years old? Does that name hold up? 66 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: Because I think, no matter what name you pick, somebody's 67 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: not gonna like it. 68 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 2: One comes to mind. It's the woman on TikTok that 69 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 2: named her kid Luke Casey after the boots. I saw 70 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 2: her boots are l U c h E s E. 71 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: But she named her kid l U ka c e Y. 72 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 2: That's a tough one. 73 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: I just think when you get a little too creative, 74 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: it's a tough one. It's tough for the kid. Like 75 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: I'd rather just be Paul. Just name me Paul. 76 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, just give me something. Here was my review that 77 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: I did of the Names. It's beautiful. It's heavy at 78 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: times with the subject material, but it's incredibly well written 79 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: and makes you think about the small changes that have changed, 80 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: small things that have changed the course of our lives. 81 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: Okay, that is book number one. What do you have 82 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: for a book? Number two? 83 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: My Friends? By Frederick Bachman. He is who did Anxious People, 84 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: a man called O, which then turned into a man 85 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: named called Auto, which was the Tom Hanks movie that 86 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: we saw. 87 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: Good movie. 88 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: He just has a way of writing that makes you 89 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: feel a range of emotions. And I was reading this 90 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: Full Disclosure in October, which is the anniversary of the 91 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: month that my dad passed away when I was younger, 92 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: and in it, one of the characters has lost their 93 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: father and has a quote and it says they were 94 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: most angry with God that they didn't get more memories. 95 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: And I remember reading that that month and it just 96 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: like struck me. And that's what I love about books 97 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: is you can be reading them not knowing that the 98 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: that's what you need to be reading in the moment, 99 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: and they just like rips your heart open in the 100 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: best way. I loved it. It's beautiful. It's a bit 101 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: of a slower book, so it's not like one that 102 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: you're going to pick up an expect to read fast. 103 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: But I did move through it fast, but it's it's 104 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: a slow journey. 105 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: How many books did you read this year? 106 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: I think I about eighty seven. My goal was seventy five. 107 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: So how fast do you if you read a book fast? 108 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: How long is that you were like, I couldn't put 109 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: this book down. How long would that take you to read? 110 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 2: I started one night at ten o'clock and then the 111 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: next night I read from seven to ten finish it. 112 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 113 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: I did that with another book that's on my list. 114 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: I'll just go into that one. The next one is 115 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: before I Forget Okay, and I started it ten pm 116 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 2: in bed, read like twenty pages before I got too tired, 117 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: and then the next night finished it on the couch 118 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: while we were watching football. This was one where a 119 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: girl moves back in with her dad as he is 120 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: experiencing Alzheimer's and she moves in to be as a 121 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: caretaker and he starts like not predicting things, but he 122 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 2: starts like talking about things, and then they happen and 123 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: it's just a really beautiful moving story of her connection 124 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: with her dad, like her kind of coming of age, 125 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: finding herself. She's been in this job she doesn't really like, 126 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: and the premise of it sounded so good that I 127 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: knew I had to read it before we recorded this episode, 128 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: because I was like, I think that could be in 129 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: my top tenity that and it is so that one 130 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: is before I forget, And that was one that I 131 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: read very quickly. 132 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: When you read at night, do you end up having 133 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: dreams about what you read? Because if I read or watch, 134 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: I don't read. If I watch something right before I 135 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: go to sleep, I'll often have my dreams impacted. If 136 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: I watch something scary, I'll end up having a nightmare. 137 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't impact you at all. Do you remember it more? 138 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: Because that's something they say that if you read something 139 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: right before you go to bed, you're more likely to 140 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: retain it. 141 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: No. The only like true I think dream I could 142 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: remember that I had the share was that I was 143 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 2: dating Joe Jonahs. 144 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: Because we watched the movie or just because. 145 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: But this was after I went to see them in concert. 146 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, wasn't it. 147 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: I did see the concert before bed, so. 148 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: Wasn't after he was parallel parking. 149 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: No, that's the funniest part of the internet, right now, 150 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: love all right? Book number four, all right, this is 151 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: my one. I try not to make the book list 152 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: too heavy of like World War two, because that's not 153 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 2: some people's gym. But it is good Night from Paris, 154 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: and it is about It's based on a true story 155 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: of an American actress named Drew Layton who was in 156 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: the Charley Chan films. She married a French husband, moved 157 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: to France. He ended up fighting with the French forces, 158 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: and so she obviously stayed in Paris. She didn't want 159 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: to come home during the war, which is what everyone 160 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: told her. They were like, you need to go back 161 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: to America, like as an American actress, Like you don't 162 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: have citizenship here, your husband's not here, Like, go back 163 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: to where you're safe, like at that time, the United 164 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 2: States wasn't in World War two. Yet She's like, no, 165 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 2: I'm going to stay. I'm not leaving the country where 166 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: my husband's fighting. And so she was like what can 167 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: I do? So she became a broadcaster on French radio, 168 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 2: and she was really the way that Americans knew what 169 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 2: was actually happening in the beginning of World War Two, 170 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: not the kind of like diluted news. She ended up 171 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: being on like the Nazi watch list because of her reporting. 172 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: But I just I read the whole thing and then 173 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: I googled it and I was like, wait, this was 174 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: based on like a true actress, Like she was real 175 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 2: and ended up doing all of this in the war. 176 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: So that one was Phenomenalang, that's crazy. 177 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: And then she kind of goes on to help in 178 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: the second way when she had to go on the 179 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: run because she was on the Nazi watch list. 180 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: There a movie about that. Get no, they should turn 181 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: that into it. I know that reminds me of like Nuremberg, 182 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: like that eras, Yeah, I had to watch that. 183 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, And she was an American actress who did these 184 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: films just like a popular blonde actress and then ended 185 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: up getting involved in the war in this way. So 186 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: I highly recommend that one. That is actually a new 187 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: author's not new new to me this year. Name's Jane 188 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: Healy and all of her books are on at Kendall Unlimited, 189 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: and I read like all five of them this year. 190 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: I mean that kind of reminds me of Diane Krueger's 191 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: character inating glorious bastard. She's like an actress, which I 192 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: think you would have liked that movie. 193 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: I know. I still don't know why I haven't watched. 194 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: It yet because it's World War two and it's rewriting history. 195 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: And I mean, obviously it's really violent because it's Quentin Tarantino, 196 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: but I think the subject matter and the way he 197 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: changes the course of history to make it more satisfying 198 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: to the viewer of us wanting justice, I think you 199 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: would enjoy it. 200 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: Okay, we love to watch it. Should watch it. We 201 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: go home. My little brother would love that. 202 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 1: They will love it. All right, you're number five movie. 203 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: We're not movie book. 204 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: I didn't even catch it. 205 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: Your book. 206 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: We're gonna go with the one that's on your to 207 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: read list project Hail Mary. 208 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: Okay, So I. 209 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: Checked out this book from the library years ago, and 210 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: it was one of those things where I just didn't 211 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: get around to reading it before my library hold expired. 212 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: Way before it was going to be turned into a movie. 213 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: Yep, years ago, because it was pretty buzzy when it 214 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: came out and then kind of died down and now 215 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: picked back up my book club read it and oh 216 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: it's so good. I can't wait for the movie. The 217 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: book is very like science heavy, Like there's so many 218 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: science thing book like things about like physics and stuff like, 219 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: which was my worst science subject. So there's a little 220 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: bit of it that you kind of have to like 221 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: skim read and be like, I don't have to understand 222 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: what this means, like I just have to absorb that 223 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: this is happening. And there are certain things that I 224 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: will be so thankful for the movie because I cannot 225 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 2: visualize some of this in my head, like I can read, 226 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: I cannot picture any of it in my head, and 227 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: so I will be excited to see how they do 228 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: that concept in the movie, Like parts of his Spaceship, 229 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: I just can't simply can't put them a picture in 230 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: my head. 231 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: That's coming out on March twentieth of next year, so 232 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: I have some time. That's almost four months that I have. 233 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: I can get it done. 234 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: You can even an audiobook it. I've heard the audiobooks 235 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: really good. 236 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: I've been hesitant to do that, but the more I 237 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: hear of people enjoying it and saying it's the same 238 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: thing as reading. 239 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: Audiobooks in general, Yeah, you're hu, you don't consider it 240 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: the same thing as reading. 241 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: That's kind of how I thought it would be cheating. 242 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: Like if I said I read a book but I 243 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: listened to the audiobook, I feel like I would be lying. 244 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just gonna throw this out here. It's gonna 245 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: make you feel bad. 246 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: Okay. 247 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: What if someone's visually impaired, hmm, that's how they read 248 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: is audiobooks are braille. 249 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: That's true, you go the Braille route, though that's not always. 250 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: I still think. 251 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: But you're consuming information and your brain is processing it. 252 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: That's what reading is. It's it is no different than 253 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: learning something from a professor telling you from the front 254 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: of a classroom, then reading it in a textbook. 255 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: But it's different if I watched the movie and say 256 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: I read the book. No, you just watched the movie. 257 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, because the movie is never the full book. 258 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: It's true, it's. 259 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: Condensed, but your brain is processing the information, whether you 260 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: take it in visually or auditory. 261 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: Because I also think I need to read Sunrise on 262 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: the Reaping, Yes, going into that, because I read all 263 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: of those books except for the ballads too. Yeah, because 264 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: that first whenever that ballad a song where the snakes 265 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: came out, I saw how thick that one is. I 266 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: was like, that is not as the others. We're not 267 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: as thick as that. 268 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a thick one. 269 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: I get nervous about that, and I'm like, I can't 270 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: do it. 271 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: Well. But those are also ya, so young adult novels, 272 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 2: so they're written to read fast. 273 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: Oh, so they're more my level. 274 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: It's kind of like rereading Harry Potter, yeah, which you 275 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: were also yeah, all right, well, now an audiobook is 276 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: not cheating audiobooks. I have several on my list this 277 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: year that are audiobooks. Okay, one on my list, but 278 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: several that I've. 279 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: Read this year from my perspective on that, Yeah, all right. 280 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: Book number six, okay. 281 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: It is called Spectacular Things, and it is about a 282 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: relationship between two sisters and them growing up them as adults. 283 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: It's just a good it's funny. I have a friend 284 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 2: of my book club who doesn't like books about like 285 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: sister relationships. She finds them boring. Meanwhile, I love a 286 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: dynamic like that as someone who only has brothers. I 287 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: love reading about two sisters. And one is a mom 288 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: who's helped her younger sister achieve her dreams of being 289 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: a soccer player at a really large level, large stage, 290 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: and about how her wanting to be a mom and 291 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: her sister wanting to be a soccer player intersect in 292 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 2: this giant way and could change the course of both 293 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 2: of their lives. 294 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: Why did it just occur to me when you said 295 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: that that you don't have a sister like that relationship? 296 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: I find like because I grew up with both, so 297 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: I know what each of those relationships are like. I 298 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: think also with you having younger brothers and me being 299 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: brought into that, I've also had the chance to feel. 300 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: What it's like to have an older or be an 301 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: older be an. 302 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: Older sibling in that situation because they're like, how much 303 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: younger than me? Like ten, and. 304 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 2: They're twelve and sixteen from me, and you're three years 305 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: older than me. 306 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: Oh kay, hey, they're long younger than I thought of 307 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: than me. 308 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so eighteen and fifteen. 309 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, and that makes me feel really old. 310 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: See, and I get to experience being a younger sibling. 311 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 2: And I will say, your sister is like great at 312 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: spoiling us. She's always such a good like older sister. 313 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: Big sister energy just all the way around. 314 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: My best friend that I've had shout out Aubrey since 315 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: I was fourteen. It's like a sister to me, that's true. 316 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: Maybe that's why we're. 317 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: So mean to each other. Like sometimes you're like, are 318 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: y'all like actually fighting? I'm like, why wouldn't you know? 319 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: That's just how we talk to each other. 320 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: I remember one time telling you, like, you guys go 321 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: at each other pretty hard. Is that ever gonna like 322 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: blow up into something more that we should like limit 323 00:12:58,600 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: that a little bit? You're like, no, this is no, 324 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: Well that's just that's just how we act. Maybe that's 325 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: why it never occurred to me, because you have a 326 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: lot of best friends that you've known for so long 327 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: that that's like your sister relationships. 328 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 2: I am very lucky that I have such strong female 329 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: friendships that I've had forever. I've Aubrey's been my best 330 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: friend since I was fourteen, my best friend Hayley since 331 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: I was fifteen, my college best friends since I was 332 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: eighteen nineteen. So yeah, I'm very lucky to have a 333 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: lot of strong female friendships. I was actually just with 334 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: two of my best friends from college. One of them 335 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 2: has a baby now, and it's just crazy to think, 336 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: like we met when we're eighteen, and now we're old 337 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: enough and like celebrating her daughter's first birthday. It's weird, 338 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: Like how did we get from like meeting freshman year 339 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: not knowing what the world had in store for us, 340 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: to still being so close that we were celebrating your 341 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: child's first birthday. 342 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: See, I just have friends, quote unquote friends that I 343 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: made in high school that I'm still friends with on Facebook. 344 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: And those friends of mine had kids when we we 345 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: were in high school. 346 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: Like, so now they're all graduating high school. 347 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: They all have like kids who are at their phase 348 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: of life that I was when I met their parents. 349 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 2: That is wild. 350 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: That's really weird. Like our county had one of the 351 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: highest birth rates out of the entire country. We had 352 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: so many teen pregnancies. This is something to brag about. 353 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: But we had a nursery at our high school. 354 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: Okay, which I do have to give them props for 355 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: because a lot of times teen pregnancy ends in women 356 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: not being able to go to school anymore and being 357 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: able to focus on their education. So props to Walks 358 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: a Hatchy id for that. That's actually pretty cool because 359 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: it didn't interrupt education, So I do think that's pretty cool. 360 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: A lot of them kept going to school, which. 361 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: Is great, which is what you want so to have 362 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: those support services. But yes, yeah, I don't have friends 363 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 2: that had kids in high school. 364 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: And now all their kids are graduating, which is wild. 365 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: There you go. 366 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: All right, your next book, book number seven. 367 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: All right, this is my last fiction one on the list, 368 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: and it is The Correspondent. So it's int asking about 369 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: this book is it's told entirely through emails. So it's 370 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: a woman in her seventies, so it'll show like her letters, sorry, 371 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: emails and letters, Okay, so it'll say like from Sylvia 372 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: at Gmail. That's not it to so and so and so. 373 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: The whole book is told through correspondence. That's what it's 374 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: called The Correspondent. So it's never direct dialogue between characters. 375 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: It's just letters and emails back and forth. 376 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: Cool. 377 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: It's really cool. It's a great story. And you learn 378 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: so Sylvia, she's in her seventies, she's a retired lawyer, 379 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: worked for a judge, and you learn about her life 380 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: and her children and her marriage kind of told from 381 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: this perspective of hindsight and how she would have, you know, 382 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: done things differently in her life. And a case that 383 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: she and the judge decided that impacted her so much 384 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: that she's still thinking about it in her seventies. Very 385 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: quick read. I think I read it in like a 386 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 2: night and a half. Was not expecting to love it 387 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: so much. It was just kind of looking for something 388 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: that was available at the library. It was like, I've 389 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: heard good things about this and it blew me away. 390 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: It's kind of like that movie Searching where it all 391 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: takes place over like facetimes and zoom calls and like 392 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: phone screens and laptop screens. 393 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: I like that similar. Yes, so, yeah, it's characters talking 394 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: to each other, but you're not getting that immediacy of 395 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: like they're in a scene together. They say something across 396 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: the table, someone else responds. It's kind of this like delayed. 397 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: And is there any like narration between the conversations or 398 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: is just the emails. 399 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: I think it's just the emails. But her emails and 400 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: letters set the stage for what has happened and kind 401 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: of between. Okay, so she'll write one person and she'll 402 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: be like, I corresponded with this person and it made 403 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: me feel this way. I thought this about this circumstance. 404 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: So she talks about her feelings about the other letters 405 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: and emails in her following letters and emails. 406 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: And then they put like a pop up ad in there, 407 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: like a like a one of those company emails like 408 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: black Friday sale pop up blocker. All right, book number eight. 409 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: All right, we're moving into nonfiction. And this will comes 410 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: as a prize to no one because I talked endlessly about 411 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: it in our September wrap up. So this is one 412 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: I did on audiobook. It was the only plane in 413 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 2: the sky, the nine to eleven or Old History. I 414 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 2: can't I recommend this one enough truly. Don't start it 415 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 2: when you're not in headspace to listen to something about 416 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: nine to eleven, because it is fifteen hours of harrowing stories, 417 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: but it paints the most clear picture of that day 418 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: with like first hand stories. And again if you didn't 419 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: hear on the September wrap up, it is a full 420 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: like forty five person cast, so it'll say who's talking, 421 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: but it is an actor reading it. So I really 422 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: appreciated that it was not capitalizing on anyone's trauma. So 423 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: it's not the real people or real family members reading 424 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: their stories. So they obviously wrote and gave the author 425 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 2: story in their stories, but they had a cast member 426 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: read it, so it's not like pulling someone back into 427 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: their pain and making them tell this story. I highly 428 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: recommend doing it on audiobook because the forty five person 429 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: cast is so amazing. But I think that this is 430 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: one of those things that is like, listen to it, 431 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: capture history as it is. You know, we're I think 432 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: this was published in the late twenty teens, maybe, but 433 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: putting history where we're at before there's any chance to 434 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: rewrite history. 435 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was twenty nineteen. 436 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, so eighteen years after. 437 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: So there is the book version of it here there 438 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: is You think that that would be just not doing 439 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: the story justice because of all the things, or you 440 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: could still take out of that what you got. 441 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 2: I think you could. 442 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: Why did you start with the audiobook? You don't really 443 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: do audiobooks. 444 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 2: It was available on Spotify, and I saw that I 445 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 2: had a forty five person cast, so I think something 446 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: like that where it's not just one narrator, so you're 447 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: not kind of getting the monotone. And I think for 448 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: historical events like that, sometimes I do appreciate an audio 449 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 2: journey of that because you do get even though it 450 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: is a cast, you get the emotion in these stories, 451 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 2: because there's no way anyone can read some of these 452 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: stories and not feel heartbroken angry. So you get the 453 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 2: emotion and the voice, and it sets the scene better 454 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 2: for you. And I will admit sometimes when I'm reading, 455 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: my brain has kind of trained to be a skim 456 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 2: reader almost in certain scenarios, like I can see a 457 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: paragraph and be like, that is a lot of filler words, 458 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 2: skim over it. I'm worried that my brain would miss 459 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: details in a book like that, whereas listening I had 460 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 2: someone telling me what was going on. 461 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: I love it. Book number nine, all right. 462 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: The Challenger. So this was a story. This man also 463 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 2: wrote a book about Chernobyl and then he did this 464 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: one about the Challenger, and this book made me angry. 465 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: So if you don't know kind of about the Challenger, 466 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 2: it was the spaceship that exploded in the eighties. But 467 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: what a lot of people don't know is they shouldn't 468 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 2: have launched. There were so many things that went wrong, 469 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: and so this book. One of the descriptions from a 470 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: reviewer on the back of the book is like this 471 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 2: reads like a mystery, like a thriller, even though we 472 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 2: know what's coming like it keeps you being like my gosh, 473 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 2: I'm not going to go through with that, like just 474 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: in the evidence that is brought forward and the things 475 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 2: that happened, and like this person presented this to NASA, 476 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 2: They presented this to this company, and you're almost reading 477 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: it thinking being like maybe I didn't get history right, 478 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 2: Maybe this horrible thing doesn't happen because like how could 479 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 2: it happen with this knowledge that they had, So you're 480 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: reading it like page turning, like no, this can't go 481 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: the way that it of course actually went in history. 482 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: So it was stories that I'd never heard before leading 483 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: up to it. Phenomenal his research and his work, Like 484 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: the amount of pages in the back of that book 485 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: that were just his research notes was insane. And we 486 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 2: read that one for part of Sharon McMahon's book club, 487 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: and so we actually got to have an author meet 488 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: up with him. So if you don't know what that is, 489 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 2: Sharon McMahon Internet persona. She does a virtual book club. 490 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: You read two books a semester, you paid to be 491 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: in it, and then you get an author chat where 492 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: you get like a one hour zoom with the author 493 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: or you can send in questions ahead of time and 494 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: Sharon kind of goes through a discussion with the author. 495 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 2: So it's really cool to be able to hear from 496 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 2: him like how much research and what went into writing 497 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 2: this and why he wanted to write it. So it 498 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 2: was very fortunate to have that aspect of it. But 499 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: I think I would have liked the book even if 500 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 2: I was just reading it, like, not knowing I was 501 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: going to get to hear from the author. What's crazy 502 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: about this too, is that the thing fault was what's 503 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 2: called an O ring, which was like a small like 504 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 2: plastic piece. And to think that something that small malfunctioning 505 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: is what caused that disaster, You're just like, how does 506 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: something that small make an impact on a giant like 507 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 2: rocket of that size? Highly recommend that book again, only 508 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 2: Playing in Sky and this one pretty heavy about tragic stories, 509 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 2: very cool historical explorations of true events. 510 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: Do we end heavy with book ten? 511 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,479 Speaker 2: Not necessarily? Well, yeah, a little bit. 512 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: Did you happen to read if you give a mast 513 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: of cookie this year? I didn't read that one and 514 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: as a top five book for me? Okay? 515 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 2: Number ten is called Unfinished Love Story by Doris Kerns Goodwin. 516 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 2: It's not as sad as it sounds. 517 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: It sounds sad. 518 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: She and her husband both worked in the sixties for 519 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: big political figures. Her husband worked for JFK, she worked 520 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: for LBJ, So it's a story about the sixties. It 521 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 2: is very much about JFK, RFK Senior MLK, and then 522 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 2: LBJ his press and c after JFK, And it both 523 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 2: made me sad that we are still in the twenty 524 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: twenties facing some of the things that they dealt with 525 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: in the sixties, but in a different way, but also 526 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: made me hopeful that some of the things that are 527 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 2: happening now that are bad, that there is a turning 528 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: point coming for those things as well. So it's like 529 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 2: history repeats itself, and in that way, it's like, oh, great, 530 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: we're dealing with bad things again, but maybe just maybe 531 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 2: we can kind of turn it around and like they're 532 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 2: good things coming. So she yeah, her husband worked for JFK, 533 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 2: she worked for LBJ, and those were kind of like 534 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: not dueling parties, but they both had very strong feelings 535 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: about the president that they worked for. She's just a 536 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 2: great historical writer and writes a lot about her time 537 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: with LBJ. She did like an official biography with him 538 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 2: as well, but this was a more encompassing story story 539 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 2: of the sixties as a whole. 540 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: You ever feel that everybody thought that they were living 541 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: in the worst of times? 542 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 2: Yes, there's a weird you say that because there's a 543 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 2: Patrick Drony song called Always Been the End of the World, 544 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 2: and it came on Shuffle this morning while I was 545 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 2: vacuuing there. 546 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: It was really weird. Well, I always think about that 547 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: of people say the world is ending. I feel like 548 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: every generation is probably felt that way, and it would 549 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: be really wild if the world actually ended in your generation. Yeah, 550 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: And I feel like that would be monumental, Like if 551 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: I was going to go out when you kind of 552 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: want to go out with the end of the world 553 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: that you're part of history. There wouldn't be much history 554 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: after that. Nobody would really know. 555 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think. I mean, yeah, is there 556 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 2: if the world ends? Is their future? 557 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: Is there a record of it? 558 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: Oh? No? 559 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: I mean we still remember. 560 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 2: The philosophical in this podcast today, I don't have it ding. 561 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: It's like, if we all go down in the end 562 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: of the world, who would write that story? And how 563 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: long would it be until they knew that we were 564 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: a part of it, So maybe I don't want to 565 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: be a part of it. I think I've just talked 566 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: myself out of that. 567 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, thank you. I think I'm good. 568 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: Maybe it's not worth it. I always thought that'd be cool, 569 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: and now I'm like, wait a minute. If nobody knows, 570 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: it's like, if you don't post about it on Instagram, 571 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: how's anybody gonna know. 572 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 2: The tree falls in forest? Doesn't it sounds? 573 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: Do you have any honorable mentions? 574 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: Hold on, let's go back to the world. 575 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: A lot of books. 576 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: I just made a list of the top ten. I 577 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 2: wasn't asked for honorable mentions. 578 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: Let's see I mentioned earlier the only book I read 579 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: and finished this year was the Mark Hoppis autobiography Fahrenheit 580 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: one eighty two, which I would say, if you are 581 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: a fan of the band blank on eighty two, it's 582 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: a really good read, or if you just like late 583 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: nineties early two thousands music history. I really enjoyed it. 584 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: Okay, a couple honorable mentions. Let's see the Irish Goodbye. 585 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: It is kind of contemporary fiction. It is a family 586 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: story again about like a sister dynamic. It's almost on 587 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 2: my top ten I considered it for a minute, so yeah, 588 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: honorable mention there. Let's see Buckeye, a historical fiction slash 589 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 2: literary fiction which takes place in kind of the post 590 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 2: World War two era, but isn't necessarily about World War two, 591 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 2: if that makes sense. The setting is like World War 592 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: two and the years after, but it's not focused on 593 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 2: the actual war itself. The House is on Fire another 594 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: historical fiction about a theater fire in Virginia, told from 595 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 2: a couple different perspectives. There were a couple this year 596 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: that like, I neither recommend nor not recommend, some that 597 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: I just like didn't even rate. I just marked him 598 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 2: as read. I was like, that's the best I can do. 599 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: Is they put on the base. 600 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: There was a book, there were words on the page. Oh. 601 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 2: Another honorable mention for nonfiction is Poverty by America by 602 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 2: Matthew Desmond, and this was published a couple of years ago, 603 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 2: but again very timely. He breaks down kind of some 604 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 2: inaccuracies and what people think about poverty. He also wrote Evicted, 605 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: which is a really unteresting book, but I really enjoyed 606 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 2: this one, and he breaks down the idea that immigrants 607 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: just take from a society and that they are stealing 608 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: our resources and our jobs, and he flips that narrative 609 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: on the head and talks about how a lot of 610 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: immigrants will pay more in taxes than the lover received 611 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 2: from this country. So I thought that one was very timely. 612 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: He's an incredible sociology end writer of that sort of work. 613 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: Are you going to set a book goal for next year? 614 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: Is there a number? Or are you just going to 615 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: read until your heart? 616 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 2: Probably seventy five? Again, I think it's usually a pretty 617 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 2: good goal. 618 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: And then what can we put down the episode notes 619 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: as far as people want to go look at some 620 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: of the things you talked about, or maybe we could 621 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: post like the entire list if people are making that 622 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: New Years resolution to read more books this year. 623 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, let me run through too. I realized I didn't 624 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 2: do the author with these, so we'll make a list. 625 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: We'll post the list. 626 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll do the list of the author. You can 627 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: link to my good Reads. Story Graph's kind of weird. 628 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if you can post like your exact link, 629 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 2: because then you have to request to be friends. But 630 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: on StoryGraph, I'm Kelsey b rod so k E L 631 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 2: s E y b r O d I still post 632 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: everything on good Reads because I know that's the more 633 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: popular platform, so everything goes there. But I'm able to 634 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 2: give better ratings on StoryGraph because you can use quarter ratings, 635 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 2: so you can do like a three, three point two, five, 636 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 2: three point five, and on StoryGraph or good Reads you 637 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: can only do whole numbers. I did have someone to 638 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: reach out to me on time and they were like, 639 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: how do you decide what's a four versus a five? 640 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: That's a great question. Usually a four point five, four 641 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: point seven five, or a five. I will give a five, 642 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: but if I've rated it a four point twenty five 643 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 2: or a four, I give it a four. But it's 644 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 2: like a five may not be a five. It may 645 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: be a four point seven five, which is why good 646 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: Reads is hard for. 647 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: My number system. A five movie to me is something 648 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: that I feel is going to be a part of 649 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: my DNA for a long time, a movie that has 650 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: a lot of rewatchability, and something I feel has the 651 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: best chance of being timeless. Are you as precious with 652 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: giving out fives? 653 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: Let's see out of my top ten what I gave. 654 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: Because I think I've seen over one hundred and fifteen movies. 655 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: This year, not one single five. 656 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: Okay, The Challenger I gave a five. Unfinished love Story 657 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: I gave a five, The Names, I gave a five. 658 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: Spectacular Things I give a four point seven five. The 659 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: Only Plane in the Sky a five, My Friends a five, 660 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: The Correspondent five before I forget four point seven five 661 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 2: out of five, good Night from Paris four point five 662 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 2: out of five, and then I think Project Hail Mary 663 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: was also a four point seventy five, but let me 664 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 2: fact check myself there, so I think the lowest on 665 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: that list was a four point five. Yeah, Project to 666 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: My Marria is a four point seven to five. So 667 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 2: they're all four point five and a lot of them. 668 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: You're like, if I love it, nothing I would change 669 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: about it, give it a five. 670 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: And a lot of the ones that I gave a 671 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 2: five are the ones that made me feel the most things. 672 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 2: A lot of times, I will be honest, I read 673 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: a book, I go onto the next one, I kind 674 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: of forget the plot of the one I've just read, 675 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: or forget some of the big things. This list of 676 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 2: these books are the ones that I could tell you 677 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 2: most things about it and what it made me feel 678 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: right now about all of them, So if it stays 679 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: with me, if I'm still thinking about it long after 680 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: I finished it, it is a contender for my top ten. 681 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm like that sometimes too, with all the movies I 682 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: review on here. Sometimes I'll go back and like, look 683 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: through the YouTube channel. I'm like, I don't even remember 684 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: watching that movie, but I was so passionate about it 685 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: for those twelve minutes. 686 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: For those twelve minutes, it was the worst or the 687 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: best thing. But if anyone has any suggestions of that 688 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: I haven't read, I haven't mentioned. If you think, like, hey, 689 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 2: you'll really love this book, let me know. Because there 690 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: are always books coming out and I'm always scouring like 691 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: book accounts, par NASAs, website their book clubs. But sometimes 692 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: things come out and they just fall off my radar. 693 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: So if you have a suggestion, let me know. You 694 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 2: can let Mike know. 695 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: He can let me know the show email movie Mike 696 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: d email show email. 697 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: I know people used to reach out to me on 698 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 2: Goodreads and I just got an update notification the other 699 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: day that they're taking away that feature. So yeah, send 700 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: an email and then the subject line and be like, 701 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 2: this isn't for you, Mike, this is for Kelsey. 702 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: Got it? 703 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: I'll send it to you and we will do my 704 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: book hall again for Parnassas for my birthday. 705 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: Yes, where you get to go in? What did we 706 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: set the limit at this year? Is it five now? 707 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: Because last year it was ninety seconds? 708 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: No, I think you upped it to two. But I'll 709 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: take five. 710 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: No, okay, yeah, that's two minutes. Give you an extra thirty. 711 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: I do have to say one thing that made me 712 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: laugh last year was everyone that was like, take him 713 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 2: for his money, and I think we talked about this, 714 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: but I was like, unfortunately, it is also my money 715 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: coming out of a bank account. It wasn't hosted by 716 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 2: the bookshop, like we do have to pay for that. 717 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: So you didn't want to just grab things for the 718 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: sake of grabbing things. You're like, I want to get 719 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: things that I'm actually going to read. 720 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 2: Yes, so I have to rework. All of my friends 721 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: are like, can you go map out the route? And 722 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, he won't let me. So I have 723 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 2: to think about how I'm gonna approach this this year. 724 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: So if you also have any suggestions about that, let 725 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: me know. It's a big not a huge bookstore, but 726 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: big enough that like two minutes isn't that long. 727 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: That's what makes it fun. 728 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 2: Okay, what if I get two minutes for the store 729 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: itself and then maybe like another sixty seconds for the 730 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: ones that I have to like read the spines of 731 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: What if I give you a million dollars and ten minutes? 732 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: Thank you? 733 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we'll do with that. 734 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: What if you give me up? 735 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: What if I let you go in and map it 736 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: out for two minutes? Ooh, you go and you map 737 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: it out, and then you go and you have your 738 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: ninety seconds. 739 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 2: Okay, deal, I think that's a deal. 740 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: Shake on it. Okay, okay, a two minute map out 741 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: and then the ninety seconds stays the same. Okay, deal, 742 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: deal all right, shook on it. We'll look out for 743 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: that on socials when your birthday comes. 744 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: Yes, anything else, No, this was a good year of books. 745 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: The sounds good. 746 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 2: A lot of good things that came out this year, 747 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 2: A lot of heavy things. I read some lighter stuff, 748 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: but that I'm gonna be honest, Usually the lighter fair 749 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: doesn't do it for me. Like I read a couple 750 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: of rom coms, read a couple not cheesy romance but 751 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: those are good, but they're just kind of like a 752 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: palate cleanser for me. So it's like, I love the 753 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 2: like heavy stuff if I'm really going to feel something, 754 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: so I feel things as. 755 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: Books cut me open and. 756 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: Yeah that and TikTok's about dogs getting adopted from shelters. Anyways, 757 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: thanks for letting me take an episode. Thank you to 758 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: everyone who listens to this. I know it's like thirty 759 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: minutes of me nerding out about books, but I do 760 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 2: enjoy it and I enjoy getting to share like what 761 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: I'm reading and loving. 762 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: Now you get to close out the episode and until 763 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: next time, go out read good books, and we will 764 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: talk to you later