Speaker 1: But people don't understand is you saw it as a friend.
Speaker 1: On the back end, people see a character. But that
Speaker 1: is my real passion. When I'm trailing Jayleen Brown, I
Speaker 1: love Jalen. I fight you dog. When I'm training Bobby Portis,
Speaker 1: that's Bobby Portters is one of my best friends.
Speaker 2: If we gotta fight, we gotta fight.
Speaker 1: The year that Grayson Allen finished Number one, that's that
Speaker 1: summer we trained.
Speaker 2: He stepped in me, really, but not stepped to me
Speaker 2: like let's rumble, but stepped at me like yo, bro,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, what the fuck? Make the shot. We're
Speaker 2: not leaving. You gotta make thirty in a row? What up? Y'all?
Speaker 2: At your boy? Kevin on stage? Want to welcome you?
Speaker 2: Do not my Best.
Speaker 1: Moment podcast where I talk to athletes, artists, entertainers and
Speaker 1: friends about their successful failures.
Speaker 2: Today I'm here with none of it. Then the lethal.
Speaker 1: Shooter aka Chris Matthews and I've been waiting for this.
Speaker 2: Let me let me tell y'all, let me read your
Speaker 2: stuff off Letho. I willa call him Letho. My name
Speaker 2: of Letho. I'm gonna call him though, actually myma named Chris.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna call him though.
Speaker 1: He's a highly sought after, respected private shooting coach who
Speaker 1: has trained athletes at the top of the basketball world.
Speaker 1: Former McDonald's All American nominee led his high school squads
Speaker 1: to an overall fifty two to six record. Lethal still
Speaker 1: holds to this day the same by the venture record
Speaker 1: for threes in the season, with one hundred and one threes,
Speaker 1: ranked seventh all time in school history in May threes.
Speaker 1: His reputation as lethal shooter was later submitted when he
Speaker 1: broke Craig Hodges' NBA level shooting drill record by making
Speaker 1: twenty three out of twenty five run the rack shots.
Speaker 1: He boasts incredible lee, incredible client list full of WNBA
Speaker 1: and NBA stars, Anthony Davis, Dwight Howard, Jayden Brown, James Harden,
Speaker 1: Contavious Callwell, Pope KOs With Michael Junior, Grayson Allen, Bobby Porters,
Speaker 1: Cannis Parker, Skylar Digg and Smith, Celebrities.
Speaker 2: Drake Future, You've seen his videos. The list goes on
Speaker 2: and on.
Speaker 1: Lady and gentleman LETHO. Shoot now, I want to hop
Speaker 1: right in and give you your flowers first. Okay, you
Speaker 1: won three things three personal cav flowers. One, as a
Speaker 1: content creator, I truly admire people who create a lamee
Speaker 1: that didn't exist. As far as I've seen, and as
Speaker 1: far as I can see, I didn't see anybody doing
Speaker 1: what you're doing, both with the training videos and the
Speaker 1: like trick shots your way right, you know.
Speaker 2: So that's one. Two.
Speaker 1: When we made our video, I knew within point three
Speaker 1: seconds you were the real deal because when I first
Speaker 1: shot before the cameras rolling y'all before okay, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna spill the sauce, but before we he was just like,
Speaker 1: before we start, just shoot, keV.
Speaker 2: Just shoot. I took three shots and you were like,
Speaker 2: did you have a knee injury?
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, how did you know? He
Speaker 1: was like the way you shoot, the way you just
Speaker 1: step up, I can tell you're protecting your left knee.
Speaker 2: What happened?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I tore my ACL and you
Speaker 1: were like, okay, you're compensating for that, and I said,
Speaker 1: hold on, because I mean, I tore it so long
Speaker 1: ago that I don't even think about it, and that
Speaker 1: I mean, I already knew because you be making niggas
Speaker 1: jumpers who ain't hitting hit, you know, a decent looking
Speaker 1: jump shot, like you can tell as a basketball coach,
Speaker 1: I know when you and you also train people for
Speaker 1: TV and movies.
Speaker 2: Yeah you can.
Speaker 1: If you play basketball, you can always tell when somebody
Speaker 1: does not or did not play basketball. I feel like
Speaker 1: basketball is probably the only thing harder to fake is
Speaker 1: probably soccer because soccer is even more unnatural to control
Speaker 1: the ball with your feet. But if you ain't shot
Speaker 1: a basketball your whole life, you can tell. So when
Speaker 1: I watch your videos, I'd be like, I don't know
Speaker 1: how he making this shot go in two times in
Speaker 1: a row. That jumper is broke. And the third thing
Speaker 1: is you created a career separate from the career you
Speaker 1: were achieving. So anybody who's able to pivot completely and
Speaker 1: then make a life, I'd be like, that's really life
Speaker 1: because you don't know what the cards are going to
Speaker 1: be dealt to you. So I just had to give
Speaker 1: your flowers. Thank you, thank you so much. So let's
Speaker 1: go all the way back because I followed you.
Speaker 2: You played at Wazoo, right, I did play at Washington
Speaker 2: State for two years. I was a University of Washington Husky.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. People are like, why did you play it.
Speaker 1: I was like at the time I was, there was
Speaker 1: Nate Robinson, Brandon Roy, will Conroy. These people went on
Speaker 1: to have illustrious careers. Brother, I couldn't have got on
Speaker 1: the women's team. I played intermualles with some of the women.
Speaker 1: I said, my brother in Christ, it's over for me.
Speaker 1: These people are elite level. Well let's go all the
Speaker 1: way back. You were like a highly touted recruit in
Speaker 1: high school. I think you played with Kevin Durant on
Speaker 1: your team. Your path in your mind, where are you
Speaker 1: thinking your career is going.
Speaker 2: Are you like NBA is the goal?
Speaker 1: Or were you like, just let me go to college
Speaker 1: first and then we'll see, or were you like I'm
Speaker 1: going to the league. Yeah, you know, coming from Washington
Speaker 1: d C. I was blessed to play with a lot
Speaker 1: of talent in high school, to skip middle school in
Speaker 1: elementary but in high school, yes, we were the top
Speaker 1: ten always in the area. We played in the nationally
Speaker 1: rank schedule, and I was blessed to be the number
Speaker 1: one shooting guard in the entire state.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: And yeah, if I wasn't number one Maryland entire state
Speaker 1: of Maryland, it's like two hundred and fifty high schools,
Speaker 1: I was either number one or number two, or number
Speaker 1: two or number one. It was like always fluctuating shout
Speaker 1: out to my guy. Following Campbell, me and him were
Speaker 1: like best friends and we were like going back and
Speaker 1: forth one, two and three.
Speaker 2: But long story short, it wasn't easy, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I felled a lot. And by saying that, like
Speaker 1: I was really bad at shooting. So my dad didn't
Speaker 1: let me. Yeah, he didn't let me shoot any threes
Speaker 1: until the ninth grade. So at a young age, all
Speaker 1: of my friends were allowed to shoot but me, So
Speaker 1: I had to shoot hook shots in all mid range
Speaker 1: jump shots. It was embarrassings. It was embarrassing in the.
Speaker 2: Two thousand, late ninety two thousand.
Speaker 1: But that's why I'm the shoot I am today because
Speaker 1: your dad didn't ch Because my dad made me focus
Speaker 1: just on mid range jump shots. And then when we
Speaker 1: hit the ninth grade that summer, I was actually my
Speaker 1: first high school is called Parkdale, and we played in
Speaker 1: a tournament called the Rock And in that tournament, my
Speaker 1: dad said, hey, you can do whatever you want.
Speaker 2: I was like, what do you mean? He was like,
Speaker 2: if you want to shoot half court, shoot half court, so.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shit, all right, so bruh, I had
Speaker 1: like thirty really yes, I was like coming down doing it.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, what the fuck? And my form
Speaker 1: was like insane, if that makes sense. But I've never
Speaker 1: shot that far ever. And then he was like, now
Speaker 1: you trusted. I was like, yeah, this is crazy. So
Speaker 1: from there that's when I've been blessed to get ranked,
Speaker 1: play on the top AAU teams, and to see the
Speaker 1: world because of basketball. Do you think specifically about shooting
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches feel like because a lot of
Speaker 1: kids play at ten foot rim that they they start
Speaker 1: off with bad form because they are not strong enough
Speaker 1: to shoot correctly and far. Do you think because your
Speaker 1: dad didn't let you do that, I actually had better
Speaker 1: form when it was actually your time to shoot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's something that a lot of
Speaker 2: people should study. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but Tiger Wood's father isn't going to
Speaker 1: tell him to hit the six hundred yard when first,
Speaker 1: because it's mechanics to be off. You always start him closing.
Speaker 1: And that's what my dad did with me. It was
Speaker 1: called Rudolph Playground in Washington, d C. They had small rims,
Speaker 1: so they had the big rims, they had the small rims.
Speaker 1: While all my friends were chucking up shots on the
Speaker 1: big rim. My dad said, I don't care what they're
Speaker 1: doing that playground. I don't care what they're doing. Afterwards,
Speaker 1: you're not playing on that big room because that room
Speaker 1: was like twelve feet So I had to always shoot
Speaker 1: on the small rim and I was embarrassed. Bro, Like,
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't, I can't play with my friends.
Speaker 1: He was like, be patience, don't you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So by doing that, my form has always been the
Speaker 1: same form. It's always been perfect. So the way you
Speaker 1: shoot right now, bro, right now, the form I have
Speaker 1: now is the same form I've had all those years.
Speaker 1: But the thing was the reason why I couldn't shoot good.
Speaker 1: Of course when we played in the other games, I
Speaker 1: couldn't get the ball where I wanted to get it.
Speaker 2: So once my stript got there, it was over. And
Speaker 2: I do that with my clients.
Speaker 1: So when I had Grace and Illy and he finished
Speaker 1: number one in the NBA, we didn't shoot a lot
Speaker 1: of threes.
Speaker 2: We mastered form shooting. We mastered mill range.
Speaker 1: When I had Bobby Portis full season, he finished top
Speaker 1: three in the NBA Mill range. When I had Grant
Speaker 1: Williams for the one season, he finished top two in
Speaker 1: the NBA. That's Grant Williams. He shot two threes in
Speaker 1: college this year. I had Jalen Brown all season. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Dash. He trains him as well. But for
Speaker 1: the shooting aspect with Jalen, He'll tell you it'll be
Speaker 1: boring to the weak minded. But the reason why Jalen
Speaker 1: Brown is stimulated is because I'm breaking down everything close.
Speaker 2: So when he does it far, it's like he's a robot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So that's how my training is.
Speaker 2: So how do you So, how does it work? Do you?
Speaker 1: Is there only a certain amount of clients you can
Speaker 1: have for the season, And like, I have no idea
Speaker 1: and I actually I'm not I literally don't know how
Speaker 1: this works.
Speaker 2: How does this work with the client?
Speaker 1: Say Jaylen Brown this season and he also has his
Speaker 1: NBA schedule, practices and traveling, Like, what does it look
Speaker 1: like to be with the NBA with a client for
Speaker 1: the year, So we can we can use this Celtics
Speaker 1: for an example. Okay, same with any other team I
Speaker 1: work with. I actually talk to the staff. So this
Speaker 1: year with the Celtics, I'll go in Joe Missoula be there,
Speaker 1: the coaching staff will be there. It's not like I'm
Speaker 1: like sneaking in. They know I'm coming, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people, respectfully, they see my content, but they don't
Speaker 1: realize in the in the sports real world, like the
Speaker 1: real human I am. People respect my art of shooting
Speaker 1: teaching for sure. So it's not like you're bringing a
Speaker 1: lethal shooter in it. You're really bringing coach Matthews into
Speaker 1: your facility. You get what I'm saying. So the shooter
Speaker 1: is your content creator part of you. Chris Matthews is
Speaker 1: the shooting coach part. Yes, And I don't think people
Speaker 1: understand that. So like last week we had Nike Elite
Speaker 1: one hundred in Saint Louis. I'm lethal shooter because the kids,
Speaker 1: but I'm really the coach Nike Academy.
Speaker 2: I'm like the coach, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: So when it comes to that, the schedules are packed,
Speaker 1: but we always make sure we're doing tune ups like
Speaker 1: once a month, and it's very agree. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: attack your mind, I'm trying to attack your soul and
Speaker 1: I'm trying to attack your mechanics. And that's why with you, respectfully,
Speaker 1: somebody that I felt that you haven't been attacked that
Speaker 1: way in a long time. Coaching wise, I could tell
Speaker 1: you were you were a dear to headlights at first.
Speaker 2: And also you're a little tense in a loving way.
Speaker 1: For a loving way, I ain't been coached since I
Speaker 1: was in high school. Yes, you had nobody yell at
Speaker 1: me for basketball things like I've been playing for fun.
Speaker 1: And also you don't you know, social media kind of
Speaker 1: tricks your brain because you only see like, obviously to
Speaker 1: me a contract creator, you're playing a character, right and
Speaker 1: obviously to me you also know what you're talking about. Yes,
Speaker 1: but nobody sees the heart before the video where you
Speaker 1: were like, all right, I'm not playing no way, I'm
Speaker 1: not mixing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought you was messing with No I ain't
Speaker 2: and it was double ram What is that? I don't
Speaker 2: care that you gotta make it twice? So yeah, but
Speaker 2: long story short to go into this.
Speaker 1: If I'm in there training Jalen, we have Tony Dobbins,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We have coach Missoula there.
Speaker 1: They're all Tony Tony Dobbins on the staff. The whole
Speaker 1: staff is like, I'm not going If I help the Bucks,
Speaker 1: if I help Phoenix, if I help the staff knows
Speaker 1: that I'm coming. Like this season, this year, I was
Speaker 1: blessed to help aj Debondsa he won number one shout
Speaker 1: out to the Wizards. But he's been under Nike since
Speaker 1: like the tenth grade. So this season when I had
Speaker 1: him at BYU is not like it's a secret. I
Speaker 1: let the coaching staff come in. So of course I
Speaker 1: don't post my real formula un for sure, I mean
Speaker 1: you can't.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to a b YU, when it
Speaker 1: comes to like University of North Carolina, when it comes
Speaker 1: to the teams that I'm actually helping, the staff can
Speaker 1: sit in and watch. This isn't a secret. This is
Speaker 1: this is the formula, and I'm here to help. And
Speaker 1: I'm blessed to work with Sam Jones from Nike as well.
Speaker 1: We do curriculums as long as with like Corey Alexander
Speaker 1: and Jabel from Team Takeover. We do it to help
Speaker 1: the coaches. So it's not like my formula. I'm teaching
Speaker 1: something and I'm like, oh no, you can't be in here.
Speaker 1: What I won't do is I won't put it on
Speaker 1: social media for sure because another trainer contect your Yes.
Speaker 1: But I do do coaching clinics for the NBA for Nike,
Speaker 1: so real, yes to coach the coaches humbly, yes, yes
Speaker 1: you got m be humble.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is what you did, It's what I do. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So like for Nike, we might have at Peach Dam,
Speaker 1: we might have like fifty coaches in there, and we'll
Speaker 1: be breaking down the art of shooting, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: At Nike Academy with all the NBA assistants, will be
Speaker 1: breaking down the art of shooting. And that's my job
Speaker 1: and that's my value to Nike and Jordan Brand. That
Speaker 1: people don't see for the last six years that that's
Speaker 1: what I've been doing at a very high level.
Speaker 2: They just see me shooting unfortunately from space or shooting underwater.
Speaker 1: So like that the thing that I followed you for
Speaker 1: a long time, and I think the thing where I.
Speaker 2: Settled this is I believe part of is God given talent.
Speaker 2: God's good.
Speaker 1: When you were shooting jellybeans into the water bottles, I said, man,
Speaker 1: this is not like it's real, But like, how were
Speaker 1: like it's editing. Even if it were right, you still
Speaker 1: made that. I'll be honest with everybody right now, if
Speaker 1: the one I made from half court, that one only
Speaker 1: took five minutes, and it was luck because I was
Speaker 1: doing something with Steven A and I pulled over my
Speaker 1: team and I said.
Speaker 2: I said, I think I can make him half court.
Speaker 1: And Nate was like, bro, come on, man, like what
Speaker 1: the like like because every time I think I did, say,
Speaker 1: we're red bull. When I think of ideas, they're like,
Speaker 1: all right, call the lawyer, see if it gets approved,
Speaker 1: like this guy's like. So Nate is like, all right,
Speaker 1: let's just get out real quick. Then Andrew was like,
Speaker 1: all right, let's set it up. It went, It went in. Really,
Speaker 1: the one that took the longest was the behind the
Speaker 1: because I wasn't looking, so I had to throw it backwards.
Speaker 1: That's the one that took the longest, and it was
Speaker 1: wind blowing in the valley. That stuff matters for sure,
Speaker 1: especially that's small.
Speaker 2: Small. Now.
Speaker 1: The one that was the easiest, now, remember half court,
Speaker 1: I didn't think I was gonna make it.
Speaker 2: The one that was the easiest was the blindfolded one.
Speaker 2: Because I am.
Speaker 1: Good with censes. So like, if I know that camera's
Speaker 1: right there, and then I look at the camera and
Speaker 1: then I blind my eye, I still can see everything.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying, and I feel like God
Speaker 1: has blessed me. That's why in Saint Bonaventure, when those
Speaker 1: records you name, which was a blessing, those are records
Speaker 1: from people who were there for four years.
Speaker 2: I was only for two years.
Speaker 1: So if I was there for four years, I would
Speaker 1: have shattered everything. And what people don't know is my
Speaker 1: senior year in college, I was top five in the
Speaker 1: nation and three's made.
Speaker 2: We didn't go to the NC DOUBLEA Tournament, just so
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: And in the A ten that year, I was number
Speaker 1: one in three point percentage and three pointers made.
Speaker 2: Do you get where I'm coming from? I do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So people think, you know, I hate when people
Speaker 1: say this is some real stuff between me and you,
Speaker 1: like everybody's watching them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is live life. Oh shit, I can say
Speaker 2: that it's just gonna go out.
Speaker 1: So the other day, Mike Beasley on Shannon Sharp Show
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, the lethal shooter is one of the
Speaker 1: best shooters I've ever had on my team in my life.
Speaker 1: I seen that and What people don't understand is humbly,
Speaker 1: like I can really like people see my videos like
Speaker 1: he can't shoot with a hand in his face?
Speaker 2: Are you fucking serious? Like no, I'm being serious like
Speaker 2: like br like I'm a robot. Like you get what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You don't go to the PAC ten Back then, because
Speaker 1: I was an instagrammer.
Speaker 2: There was no Instagram.
Speaker 1: Tony Bennett came to the gym University of Arizona, University
Speaker 1: of Georgetown, Syracuse.
Speaker 2: I had offers.
Speaker 1: Mississippi State back then SEC because what I was doing humbly.
Speaker 1: Now that I'm an adult, it's like this shit is crazy.
Speaker 1: But back then, I wasn't thinking like that. This was
Speaker 1: a social I wasn't even shooting for the cameras. I
Speaker 1: was literally going, Wow, what year is this? For people
Speaker 1: who don't know.
Speaker 2: Who you wouldn't be able to say that. You might
Speaker 2: got to google that one might.
Speaker 1: But my senior year, which was a blessing in AAU,
Speaker 1: I made first team with Rondo, Russell Westbrook j R.
Speaker 2: Smith, all those guys.
Speaker 1: I broke the Back then, it was called the Big
Speaker 1: Time Tournament with Adidas.
Speaker 2: I played for DC Assault and I broke all the
Speaker 2: all the records.
Speaker 1: Wow, I broke all the big time three point records
Speaker 1: because this is where they messed up and it was
Speaker 1: not my fault, that's their fault. They had us playing
Speaker 1: at LMU and the backdrop was too close. Really, So
Speaker 1: I went to my coach. I'm like, man, what's the
Speaker 1: most reason this motherfucker?
Speaker 2: And he told me. I was like, I'm gonna shout
Speaker 2: at these bitches.
Speaker 1: So one of the games I broke a record was
Speaker 1: against greg Odin's team. Really, they would call team I
Speaker 1: forgot the name of their team. They had Mike Conley,
Speaker 1: they had a cook. And I asked my coach. We
Speaker 1: played a game this year. I was playing with the
Speaker 1: Philly Crusaders. Shout out to coach Schofield. He died and
Speaker 1: shout out to coach Raheem. I said, bro the ball
Speaker 1: is too close.
Speaker 2: I said, what's the record?
Speaker 1: And he was like eight. I said, I can brick it.
Speaker 1: So I can brick it. Just just just trust me.
Speaker 2: And what did I do?
Speaker 1: I broke the record against greg Odins team. But these
Speaker 1: are the type type of what people don't understand. You
Speaker 1: saw it as a friend on the back end. People
Speaker 1: see a character, but that is my real passion. When
Speaker 1: I'm trailing Jalen Brown, I love Jalen. I'll fight you dog.
Speaker 1: When I'm training Bobby Portis, that's Bobby Porters is one
Speaker 1: of my best friends.
Speaker 2: But if we gotta fight, we gotta fight.
Speaker 1: The year that Grayson Allen finished number one, that that
Speaker 1: summer we trained.
Speaker 2: He stepped in me.
Speaker 1: He really, but not stepped at me like let's rumble,
Speaker 1: but stepped in me like yo, bro, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck make the shot.
Speaker 2: We're not leaving. You got to make thirty in a row.
Speaker 1: But I'm not doing it because the character that people
Speaker 1: see on ig with you, I'm like, that's not real.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But the guy that my passion.
Speaker 1: Is there, aj Debonza, Kleb and all the elite. Just
Speaker 1: last week I had to train Beckham Black. He's the
Speaker 1: number one point guard in the nation. I flew the
Speaker 1: Dallas to train him. They see the real lead thal
Speaker 1: shooter for sure. And if I feel like you're wasting
Speaker 1: my time, yeah, it's a problem. Even if they pays you,
Speaker 1: it's a problem. And you got to realize I'm not
Speaker 1: the trainer. I'm not looking to be your friend, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to hang out in the club with you.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to sit at the draft table with you.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be that guy we we buying
Speaker 1: chains together. I'm here to help you and your family
Speaker 1: get generational wealth, right. And I think with in the business,
Speaker 1: we're in trainers, once they get the bread, they trying
Speaker 1: to be their homie.
Speaker 2: I'm not looking to be your friend.
Speaker 1: All I want to push you to the to be
Speaker 1: so uncomfortable, like a Jalen Brown that you can get
Speaker 1: three hundred million.
Speaker 2: Like when I was with Bobby Porters, he signed for
Speaker 2: like one hundred ms.
Speaker 1: The year I had KCP, he finished like top five
Speaker 1: in the NBA, he signed for ninety ms.
Speaker 2: So it's just like me, I'm not here that like
Speaker 2: when you go to Bora Bora to kick it that
Speaker 2: I'm that guy.
Speaker 1: No, I'm the guy where we're gonna lock ourselves in
Speaker 1: the gym, send me on that trip.
Speaker 2: I think people they probably can really appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Then they do for sure, because Instagram guys and me
Speaker 1: and your age group that's sitting on the couch that
Speaker 1: played JV in the twelfth grade, they're the ones that's
Speaker 1: hating the most if you notice about social media, the
Speaker 1: guy that AAU, his mom and dad had to pay
Speaker 1: the coach to put him in the game.
Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you if you if you read the comments
Speaker 1: and then click the guys or the I don't know
Speaker 1: if you do this as well. Sometimes you go to
Speaker 1: their page. It's like, bro, like, come on, bro, bro,
Speaker 1: put your page on private.
Speaker 2: Bro Like.
Speaker 1: But that's the world we live in today with social media,
Speaker 1: and that's why God is good where I don't have
Speaker 1: to prove myself online that I'm like I can shoot
Speaker 1: for elite shooting coach. If you think I'm a bum,
Speaker 1: thanks for following me and thanks for.
Speaker 2: The like, Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Hey, guys, taking a quick commercial break. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question that I see
Speaker 1: in your comments all the time. And I know you've
Speaker 1: answered this before, but if people haven't heard you, what
Speaker 1: happened to your career? Why did we not see? Because
Speaker 1: you know the day, the way the NBA has played today.
Speaker 1: I know you're like, oh my god, space and place space?
Speaker 1: Uh space, what is it? Pac and Space? I know
Speaker 1: you probably feel like you would have thrived in today's NBA.
Speaker 1: What take us from you know Saint Bonnie to Wazoo
Speaker 1: to you know you played Overseas to becoming lethal shooter.
Speaker 1: I think maybe the one biggest mistake I ever made
Speaker 1: was when I so with Tony Benn that we went
Speaker 1: to the Sweet sixteen. I played with Aaron Baines, I
Speaker 1: paid with Kyle Weaver. I played with Derek like.
Speaker 2: We were loaded.
Speaker 1: And I was immature, and I didn't realize that every
Speaker 1: big game Oregon, UCLA USC, this guy would start me.
Speaker 2: And then the games that were nothing, I wouldn't play.
Speaker 1: But he was molding me and my friend Mack Hobson,
Speaker 1: who went to Murder University, Idaho, by the way, he
Speaker 1: was molding us for when these guys left. But in
Speaker 1: my brain, now that I'm patient, because I'm older, I'm thinking, nah, now, Tony,
Speaker 1: are you crazy? Like I'm from DC, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get out the ghetto. You know what I mean now
Speaker 1: that I'm older. When I went to my meeting and
Speaker 1: Tony said, listen to me, I promise you, if you
Speaker 1: wait till your senior year, all these guys are going
Speaker 1: to be gone.
Speaker 2: It's going to be your team. It's going to be
Speaker 2: max team.
Speaker 1: You're gonna average ten point back then, if you averaged
Speaker 1: ten points in the Pac ten, you're gone. Really, you
Speaker 1: don't realize people like Aaron Afollo, Jordan Farmmer, they didn't
Speaker 1: average ton it was too hard to score. But the
Speaker 1: games that they would play me a lot, which was
Speaker 1: one of the one of the games like you dub
Speaker 1: against Brandon Roy, against all those elite guys you had.
Speaker 2: I killed that game, but because he saw it.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't my time. And the one thing I've
Speaker 1: learned about life, that's why I am where I am
Speaker 1: is patience. Brother, and I should have stayed in Washington,
Speaker 1: stayed because I know for a fact, humbly, I know
Speaker 1: I'd have made it to the NBA because the Pack
Speaker 1: ten back then was the NBA.
Speaker 2: It really was Bro. It was the NBA dog. People
Speaker 2: don't understand how hard the Pack ten was.
Speaker 1: But Westbrook didn't average crazy. No, it wasn't about that.
Speaker 1: It was about that you're doing it consistently against that
Speaker 1: high volume talent. So when I went to the Atlantic ten,
Speaker 1: which was a blessing because Coach Schmidt he believed in
Speaker 1: me Bro, But the A ten was the a ten
Speaker 1: back then, the shooters like we were lucky to get
Speaker 1: like Deontay Christmas and as a guard different guys.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't like if you.
Speaker 1: Finished top five in the in your league, in the
Speaker 1: cuntre in the eighteen year automatically and if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: So when it was time for me to get drafted,
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of knew what was going on.
Speaker 1: So I went to France when people don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't even think you knew this.
Speaker 2: I went to France.
Speaker 1: I made a lot of money. I got injured. It
Speaker 1: was the same injury from high school that people don't know.
Speaker 1: I tore my mcl and I had to wear like
Speaker 1: that Stone Colt, Steve Austin. Yeah, but I was lucky
Speaker 1: that my high school team was so stacked. Bro. My
Speaker 1: only job was shoot three ye Bro, my only job,
Speaker 1: but I was That's why I was a McDonald andy.
Speaker 1: That's why I made the All team in DC because
Speaker 1: Kevin has the attention, Deron Washington has the attention all
Speaker 1: these illegal and all I have to do is just
Speaker 1: score a lot of points be available. When I went overseas,
Speaker 1: I was like, these people are really psychopaths, Like these
Speaker 1: coaches are nuts, Like I've never like my coaches were nuts,
Speaker 1: but these people are crazy. So I was explaining to
Speaker 1: the coast, like, yo, like my knee kind of sore.
Speaker 1: But I never told them that I had an injury.
Speaker 1: Oh I never told them this. What was the reason
Speaker 1: you didn't tell them?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 1: It's overseas, Like if they know you have an injury,
Speaker 1: you might not get two hundred thousand euros, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 2: Now, they're probably doing background checks and stuff.
Speaker 1: Back then, if they saw you play in a EuroLeague
Speaker 1: camp and you're killing, they're not going to say, oh,
Speaker 1: he might be missing a.
Speaker 2: Big toe like you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 2: go over there, I murder. It's called cup games.
Speaker 1: Before you play the big games, you play like friendly
Speaker 1: cup games, but you win awards.
Speaker 2: I murdered all those games. Bro.
Speaker 1: It was called x Mirion. We won the most cup
Speaker 1: games ever in their history. So I'm like, we bet
Speaker 1: it's time to turn up. I'm trying to tell my coach. Look, Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make excuses, but the condition I
Speaker 1: can feel my knee locking, So my knee would lock
Speaker 1: so bad that when I put it up and goow
Speaker 1: like you can hear it.
Speaker 2: So now, as a shooter, when you shoot, what do
Speaker 2: you do?
Speaker 1: You compensate And I can't compensate when you have this
Speaker 1: guy from freaking Russia or the Ukraine guarding you full
Speaker 1: court and his whole livelihood is to stop the American.
Speaker 2: So I couldn't I couldn't score. So I'm like, coach,
Speaker 2: I can't score because you're killing me in practice.
Speaker 1: You're the American. You're acting like a punk. People don't
Speaker 1: understand overseas is only built for the strong. So they
Speaker 1: were like, hey, we got to send you home. So
Speaker 1: my agent back then was like, hey, the good thing
Speaker 1: about France is they got to give you one hundred
Speaker 1: percent pay.
Speaker 2: Do you want to go home? I said, shit, send
Speaker 2: me home, man, I got one hundred and fifty thousand years.
Speaker 2: Send me home. Bro. Going back in DC, I got
Speaker 2: a BMW. I ain't bet. But that was a bad decision.
Speaker 1: I should have stayed over there and fought through it.
Speaker 1: Once again, patience, trusting the process, taking my time. I
Speaker 1: go on to Russia, one of the top leagues in Russia,
Speaker 1: same thing. I get poked in the eye. I'm all
Speaker 1: messed up. I mess up my knee again. And if
Speaker 1: you think you can make it in life, let me
Speaker 1: tell you this right now. That movie with Rocky when
Speaker 1: he fought against the Russia b that shit's real. We
Speaker 1: had backpass weights running through the woods.
Speaker 2: This is real. We're waking up every day at five
Speaker 2: in the morning. Take it. I was like I was.
Speaker 1: I don't know how triggered you might have been. I
Speaker 1: was so triggered that I'll be sleep and thought I
Speaker 1: missed my alarm. Then it'd be like one of them.
Speaker 1: I like, no, I'm serious, bro, this is how serious
Speaker 1: the training was. The knee injury came back again. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I can't win and I signed for
Speaker 1: this much money. Now I got to go back to
Speaker 1: DC again. But the good thing about Russia, which I
Speaker 1: wasn't patient, They said, hey, you're hurt, We'll keep you here.
Speaker 1: We'll let you get back one hundred percent if you
Speaker 1: want to stay.
Speaker 2: You're not a part of team. But if you want
Speaker 2: to stay, we do love that you're here.
Speaker 1: You can live here. What I want to do not patient,
Speaker 1: send me home. I go play in South America. My
Speaker 1: lung collapse. It's called polydaria deema. I think fifty percent
Speaker 1: of the people survived. I think what's the guard name
Speaker 1: that was with the Wizards. He played for the Blazers
Speaker 1: for a long period of time. Now he's with the Hawks.
Speaker 1: He caught podd edema and he almost died as well.
Speaker 2: But he's a guard. He's a vet guard.
Speaker 1: And I'm not being funny, bro, Like four months straight,
Speaker 1: I had to like pee in a two. They had
Speaker 1: a two in me to poop.
Speaker 2: I had to They had to bring the thing because
Speaker 2: your body shuts.
Speaker 1: I couldn't move my legs, like the whole bottom half
Speaker 1: became fro Like it's real and the only reason. I mean,
Speaker 1: of course I would have crawled out, but like when
Speaker 1: I woke up, when I caught it, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: can't move my limbs.
Speaker 2: So I started screaming and my teammate came in there
Speaker 2: and they had to call ambulams. So so google that.
Speaker 2: So long story short, this is the truth. To this day,
Speaker 2: my lungs aren't the same.
Speaker 1: So like, that's why I'm lucky to be a part
Speaker 1: of companies like Red Bull, because what people don't know
Speaker 1: is when I do my extreme did you see me
Speaker 1: jump off the bridge?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: When I do content like that this is not something
Speaker 1: that we're just doing to test. Red Bull would do
Speaker 1: certain type of tests on me to see if my
Speaker 1: body can handle environments. Did you see the content India.
Speaker 2: Red Bull?
Speaker 1: I had to train for five months. Well, people don't
Speaker 1: even attempt that, bro, did you see the hell I
Speaker 1: was doing?
Speaker 2: I just thought you were like a record, do that
Speaker 2: you'll pass out? I didn't even I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so long story short, or people didn't see us
Speaker 1: to give away something we did. There's like five different
Speaker 1: drivers because what a human can do that and just
Speaker 1: keep it, just keep going, So they we did different tests.
Speaker 1: We're training in Santa Monica, And that's why it's a
Speaker 1: blessing to Beeple, the company that cares for your best interest,
Speaker 1: because if they didn't care, they'd be sending me off.
Speaker 1: And all these ideas are humbly like they're my ideas,
Speaker 1: Like anything you see online, I'm the psychopath behind Like
Speaker 1: how do you even think of because I watch your
Speaker 1: videos and I'm just like I assumed it was you,
Speaker 1: but like how to even know that apparatus exists? So
Speaker 1: I was watching the music video for the India one.
Speaker 2: I forgot his name. I apologized he's love. It's my brother.
Speaker 1: But I saw in the music video these guys are
Speaker 1: going around this the Wall of Death, said sign me up,
Speaker 1: and I called Red Bull.
Speaker 2: I told Christian I want to do the Wall of Death.
Speaker 2: He's like, oh my god. So well.
Speaker 1: People don't know is for Red Bull just to give
Speaker 1: away some more. They're not sending you on death wishes.
Speaker 1: They have to like really do a process, like we
Speaker 1: have lawyers, we have certain stuff like I could die, bro.
Speaker 2: We did it and it was successful.
Speaker 1: The bridge thing, I could have died. Did you see
Speaker 1: the one with the wind turbine and Kenya?
Speaker 2: Yes, I could have died.
Speaker 1: What people don't see is I go all the way
Speaker 1: up on the crane even if you lock me in
Speaker 1: and the crane tips over, what do I do? I'm gone,
Speaker 1: so real lethal, that's the lethal part of it. That's
Speaker 1: what people don't understand. I'm doing this because I'm seeing
Speaker 1: stuff and it stimulates me, not telling viewers if you
Speaker 1: see death or something. I'm saying, I think I can
Speaker 1: make the jump shot. I just pitched something to Red Bull.
Speaker 1: We can't do it because it's impossible, but I wanted
Speaker 1: to jump out of a plane. I wanted to jump
Speaker 1: out of a plane and make a shot, but it's
Speaker 1: impossible because the force. We can't even use a weighted ball.
Speaker 1: Because if we use a weighted ball and I'm going down,
Speaker 1: I can risk it's somebody on the ground, Bro, you
Speaker 1: can kill somebody. So but these are things that go
Speaker 1: through my mind. But I'll see it here.
Speaker 2: First.
Speaker 1: I'm going to Africa in four weeks. I'm going to
Speaker 1: Germany in a month, and I'm going some wild stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm doing some I can't tell you what it is,
Speaker 1: but I'll make sure I tag you for tag make
Speaker 1: sure I tag you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you, what when did you decide okay,
Speaker 1: professional or traditional basketball is done?
Speaker 2: It is? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What was like accepting that part of your life because
Speaker 1: at that point that has been your life, your whole life,
Speaker 1: and this happens in every athlete.
Speaker 2: I'll say depression, Homelessness, yeah, man, homeless. I was lucky.
Speaker 1: My cousin, Tayvon, he's my best friend, he's my blood cousin.
Speaker 1: He's my best friend. And if it wasn't for him, shit,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be selling drugs. I'd have been shooting people.
Speaker 1: I'd have been I mean I'm about that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? And he was like, nah, bro, I
Speaker 1: got a house and district heights in there as long
Speaker 1: as you want, until you figure it out. But what
Speaker 1: he didn't know was I would put so like our windows,
Speaker 1: I will put black drapes over the windows. And I
Speaker 1: was staying there literally all day from depression. And then
Speaker 1: my uncle Arnold would come home, because he'll come home.
Speaker 2: Like around four.
Speaker 1: I'll leave at three thirty and then come back late
Speaker 1: at night and act like I did something all day.
Speaker 1: But I was going through hell mentally because in our communities,
Speaker 1: I feel like I felt like now that I understand patients.
Speaker 1: If you don't become the rapper, if you don't become
Speaker 1: the basketball player, if you don't become the football player,
Speaker 1: if you don't become this thing, you didn't make it,
Speaker 1: because that's how they make you feel. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I don't know how your hood is,
Speaker 1: but certain hoods like oh, look at.
Speaker 2: Man, he thought he's gonna be a big comedian. Now
Speaker 2: he only at the bar.
Speaker 1: Right, No, what's wrong with what's wrong with doing comedy
Speaker 1: in front of ten people? They feel if it's not
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand people, then you didn't make it, if
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Yeah, And that's the pressure I was
Speaker 1: putting on myself. And then when I tapped out of it,
Speaker 1: when I realized it's more than me to just that,
Speaker 1: I became a school teacher.
Speaker 2: Bro I was. I was a janitor.
Speaker 1: I sold I'm sign of Red Bull. So I don't
Speaker 1: want to say to the other company, but I sold.
Speaker 2: For a company. I sold cans. BRO.
Speaker 1: For a whole summer, we were getting raises on how
Speaker 1: many times how many cans at a carnival that we sold,
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. So we're selling cans, and if
Speaker 1: you don't sell a certain amount of cans, you couldn't
Speaker 1: get the bonus. Was selling the shit out the cans.
Speaker 1: BRO sell them like it's drum man, what you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: Excuse me? Service?
Speaker 1: You like, oh yeah, come on, come on, like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I wasn't afraid of of
Speaker 1: where my path was going. I feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't make it in life because social media
Speaker 1: has made them want instant gratification. Instead of going through
Speaker 1: the failure to get to the promised land, they want
Speaker 1: to just get to the promised land, and then what
Speaker 1: happens is they missed the promised land because they tried
Speaker 1: to fake it to get there, but they didn't go
Speaker 1: through the hard times to make it in life, and
Speaker 1: people people don't know. You know, I don't say this
Speaker 1: a lot because I'm not the type.
Speaker 2: This happened to me. Make it go for me, bro.
Speaker 1: Both of my parents it's the eighties in DC. Bro,
Speaker 1: both of my parents are on drugs. I didn't grow
Speaker 1: with my parents. I only seen my dad four times
Speaker 1: my whole life.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately he overdosed a few years ago. People don't even know.
Speaker 1: My biological mom just died two months ago. I'm not online, bro,
Speaker 1: this is what I hate. Will people be online looking
Speaker 1: for like those posts? Wheres like just looking for attention
Speaker 1: to me? Like if that makes sense, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: use certain stuff, like certain trauma I feel online so
Speaker 1: people can feel sorry for you, like like, don't don't
Speaker 1: like that that's me. I feel like that's that's weak
Speaker 1: to me. So I'm not online. Like, people don't know
Speaker 1: my biological brother just got locked up. He's got I'm
Speaker 1: not going online and my brothers just got locked up.
Speaker 2: Nah, bruh.
Speaker 1: Some stuff stay off social media, and I think with
Speaker 1: in today's world, everybody is just so flabbergastic about social
Speaker 1: media to look a certain type of way that they
Speaker 1: forget the process. And I think people like you that's
Speaker 1: why I'm so stimulated by you. You get the process, brother,
Speaker 1: You get that process, And that's why I am who
Speaker 1: I am because of all my trauma. Not saying people
Speaker 1: go through trauma, like, get a therapist, bro, get a therapist, guys.
Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to say is that's what made
Speaker 1: me lethal shooters.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like people know I've been
Speaker 2: locked up. I didn't know that. Yeah, Like people don't.
Speaker 1: Know these things drugs nah nah, So like you yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna mess up my brands.
Speaker 2: It's sounded like you.
Speaker 1: But the first incident I was with a friend and
Speaker 1: growing up in DC, what people don't understand is man's.
Speaker 2: A war zone. Bro.
Speaker 1: You know, I grew up around Langdon Park, I grew
Speaker 1: up around Kennedy. I grew up around Lakeland in Maryland,
Speaker 1: which was Section eight at the time. It was one
Speaker 1: of the biggest crack epidemics in that community because they
Speaker 1: move everybody from southeast Northeast with vouchers.
Speaker 2: Move all in one community.
Speaker 1: I grew up around First and Gallaton and unfortunately, crack epidemic,
Speaker 1: so I was in situations that bro I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't want to be in these situations. I'm just protecting myself.
Speaker 1: So I'm at a place called the Boulevard and one
Speaker 1: of my boys was beefing with somebody. So I'm fresh
Speaker 1: from Washington State, like fresh, like man, I'm the man.
Speaker 1: I'm getting packed in money. I'm living in the condo
Speaker 1: at Washington State.
Speaker 2: I come home. But these are the decisions. You got
Speaker 2: to learn know who to be around or learn to
Speaker 2: who not to be around. And that's what I've mastered. Now.
Speaker 2: You know who my best friends are. My kids and
Speaker 2: my wife. Those are my best friends. You know what
Speaker 2: I say. Of course, my mom and I'm trying to say,
Speaker 2: I'm not looking. You ain't out in the street like
Speaker 2: me and you we could have been out last night,
Speaker 2: mean tee weekend, like you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 2: it's just like I understand.
Speaker 1: But to get back to what we were talking about,
Speaker 1: these dudes tap on the glass because my neighborhood's beefing
Speaker 1: with another neighborhood. That I didn't know nothing about fresh
Speaker 1: from college. The dudes come in, they try to jump
Speaker 1: one of my mans. He pull out the jont.
Speaker 2: Bung bung bung bung bung bom.
Speaker 1: And well, people don't know about me, which I'm not
Speaker 1: on line. See the thing I don't do around for
Speaker 1: where I'm from. I'm not going back home and doing videos. Man,
Speaker 1: we outside, woo woo woo.
Speaker 2: I got the aar, I got the British bulldog. Woo
Speaker 2: woo woo. I let that thing go. That's not cool
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 1: And I feel like a lot of people me and
Speaker 1: your position, they want that validation. Grow the hell up,
Speaker 1: you know what, Grow the fuck up. When I go
Speaker 1: back to my hood, I'm talking to the men, I'm
Speaker 1: telling them, hey, man, this is what I learned about
Speaker 1: being a father. I'm having dinners with men in my community.
Speaker 1: Just came home from the FEDS. I'm helping men figure
Speaker 1: out different things about life. I'm not going back to
Speaker 1: my neighborhood trying to do a video to show that
Speaker 1: I come from the trenches.
Speaker 2: If that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And with that being said, this incident.
Speaker 1: Man, I was rumbling bro and one of the dudes
Speaker 1: had one I mean I slashed around his hand smacked
Speaker 1: him with the jones, If that makes sense.
Speaker 2: I run when the when the police came and I
Speaker 2: hit under the car.
Speaker 1: The reason why I hit under the car is because
Speaker 1: number one, I shouldn't have been in that situation. I
Speaker 1: hear somebody say he's under the car. So I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 1: if I get up and run, I gotta wash it
Speaker 1: in state.
Speaker 2: Hoodie on I'm done.
Speaker 1: They locked me up. I go to precinct. I got
Speaker 1: to stay there all night. The police officer is like,
Speaker 1: do you know that blah blah blah had a gun
Speaker 1: on them?
Speaker 2: Bro of course?
Speaker 1: But I'm like, no, I didn't know he had a
Speaker 1: gun on them. Is he known to have used violence?
Speaker 1: I don't know, sir. I came straight from college. Number One,
Speaker 1: in my head, I should never got.
Speaker 2: The fun car. Why am I doing it this car?
Speaker 2: You got what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So he's like asking me all these questions all night.
Speaker 1: So my dad picks me up in the morning, smacks
Speaker 1: the shit out of me. What the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. I get back and around
Speaker 1: the way. One of my friends apologized to me put
Speaker 1: me in that situation. The second situation that people don't understand.
Speaker 1: My cousin Tavon shot to him. He knew it as well.
Speaker 2: It was his fault. He had a Z and I
Speaker 2: think the Z at that time, the Nissan zgos were
Speaker 2: like one sixty. Yeah, it goes fast.
Speaker 1: My license was suspended, bro, my license was suspended for
Speaker 1: other stuff that we're not gonna talk about it here.
Speaker 1: But I was outside this time. I'm at home, my
Speaker 1: license suspended, and he gives me a car and I
Speaker 1: drive it. The police pulled me over, where's your license?
Speaker 1: I was like, man, it's at home. I don't got it,
Speaker 1: my dumb ass. They do the computer thing. Bro, it's
Speaker 1: called U Street. Everybody's outside. But I'm not Leathrow Shooter.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm Chris Matthews. I mean, my brand
Speaker 1: is my brand, but I'm not like, yeah, now you
Speaker 1: lock me.
Speaker 2: Up now, people for sure, I'm done.
Speaker 1: And I got locked up and I had to spend
Speaker 1: two days in jail. I had to spend two days
Speaker 1: in jail. But I wasn't mad, bro, like I was,
Speaker 1: just I knew it was my fault, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: And these are things and testimonies that people don't know
Speaker 1: I was on EBT for three years.
Speaker 2: Bro. Wow, I was on EBT for three.
Speaker 1: Years, man, And when people don't know what that situation.
Speaker 1: My sister y'all Knail, we both come from the same situation.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: She was lucky that her mom took care of her.
Speaker 1: I was lucky that my cousins took care of me
Speaker 1: and my mom, Stephanie, if it wasn't for her and
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Bro I'm telling y'all be in jail. They didn't
Speaker 1: take me out of the situation. They took me out
Speaker 1: of uptown. And we've been in a situation. But my sister,
Speaker 1: y'all Nail, I was lucky to have, you know, my father,
Speaker 1: which was my cousin when I when I'm speaking right now,
Speaker 1: and she let me live on her couch. It's called
Speaker 1: the pinnacles. I lived in her couch when I was
Speaker 1: going through a tough time. And I know I need
Speaker 1: to get it fixed. But don't judge me right now.
Speaker 1: But I can't pass the damn l A d V test.
Speaker 1: My damn license still says DC.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: They're biased, they're biased, so you need to go. I
Speaker 1: got one more year left in DC. I got one
Speaker 1: more left. But I'm telling you right now, if my
Speaker 1: license gets canceled this time, I will not drive.
Speaker 2: I won't drive.
Speaker 1: But that's why, that's why I got I got locked
Speaker 1: up those two times a gun charge because I took
Speaker 1: the gun out the dude's hand, hit him with it,
Speaker 1: ran and to the lady who's screaming, which she should
Speaker 1: have it was. It was an intense environment at the
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. She's making it seem like I pulled
Speaker 1: out the blicky like you get what I'm saying. But yeah,
Speaker 1: those you know what, I actually got locked up three times.
Speaker 1: I got locked up three times. I was I was say,
Speaker 1: micing it. I'm driving a friend's car. It's called Montgomery County,
Speaker 1: this borderline that those police don't play. I was driving
Speaker 1: mess with a messed up license, and they made me
Speaker 1: stay in there for.
Speaker 2: A whole day, a whole day. Bro. Hey guys, taking
Speaker 2: a quick commercial break. We'll be right back. So let
Speaker 2: me ask you this.
Speaker 1: Was lethal shooter A was it a process? Like what
Speaker 1: in your mind sent you down that path? Because, like,
Speaker 1: like I said, this didn't really exist. Maybe dude perfect,
Speaker 1: but that's not trick. Shot is not it's not like
Speaker 1: a one to one. You have like a very specific thing.
Speaker 1: Did you see this before?
Speaker 2: Like what what? What? What happened in your mind?
Speaker 1: So I was a psychopath as a trainer because I
Speaker 1: was brought up by his name's Delonte Nutt Taylor. He
Speaker 1: was my mentor that helped us because the kids in
Speaker 1: our neighborhood, if you weren't a certain way, bro, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you right now, bro, we're gonna kill you. We're
Speaker 1: gonna sell crack, We're gonna anything. We weren't supposed to
Speaker 1: do towards basketball.
Speaker 2: We bout that.
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about ages twelve to eighteen. We outside
Speaker 1: like we're thirty year old, right, and we with the shits.
Speaker 1: So the way the coaches trained us, they had to
Speaker 1: be that way because our environment. If you weren't that way,
Speaker 1: we would say fuck basketball.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So I never really did the trick shot stuff because
Speaker 1: that's corny to me. During COVID, I'm like, fuck, man,
Speaker 1: like what do I do? How do I provide for
Speaker 1: my family? Because I can't really be one on one
Speaker 1: with people, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: So I was like my whole life, I shot on crates,
Speaker 2: I shot on hangers. I would.
Speaker 1: So what people do understand about me is like I
Speaker 1: have a problem where I could be sitting in this
Speaker 1: room right here, and I'll see something and then like, oh,
Speaker 1: like like those three dots right there that made me
Speaker 1: think about back in the day when we had to
Speaker 1: stick our Nintendo sixty four in there.
Speaker 2: But that's how my brain operates.
Speaker 1: Like I get, that's what my brain right now, I'm
Speaker 1: talking to you, but I'm just like, man, this guy's
Speaker 1: a hell of a comedian, Like, oh, this guy is real, calm,
Speaker 1: look at him.
Speaker 2: Just let But that's my brain. So I say, you
Speaker 2: know what, fuck this. If people make fun of me
Speaker 2: in the in the in the NBA field, they're gonna
Speaker 2: have to make fun of me.
Speaker 1: So I did a video where I took a piece
Speaker 1: of luninfoil and the can was far as shit and
Speaker 1: I threw the lumenfoil and it dropped it and I said,
Speaker 1: holy shit, and I posted it and then people went crazy.
Speaker 1: So I did another video which sorry Rodondo Beach. I
Speaker 1: was living in Rodondo Beach at the time, But this
Speaker 1: is my brain.
Speaker 2: I took the backboard off the rim. Remember this is COVID.
Speaker 1: I took the backboard off and I did a shooting
Speaker 1: video with my friend Aaron. He runs Lakers All Day's page.
Speaker 1: He's a good friend of mine as well.
Speaker 2: Great guy. We did the video, people went crazy Sports
Speaker 2: Center House like, hey, can we post for esp Yeah.
Speaker 2: From there, red Bull hits me, we can't sign you.
Speaker 2: Why can't you sign me? You're not a professional athlete,
Speaker 2: But do some more videos. We think you. We think
Speaker 2: we might make you the first ever person signed under
Speaker 2: the athlete rim that we've if that makes sense. I'm
Speaker 2: not bro. I don't play for Maccabi.
Speaker 1: I don't play, but I'm like signed, like I'm aj
Speaker 1: de Bonzo, Anthony Davis back at.
Speaker 2: The time he's not with us anymore, or Jaylen Brown.
Speaker 2: So I went on to do it. My Rep Christian
Speaker 2: caused me. He said, I think it's time we go
Speaker 2: to Austria. They're like, yo, we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't think that this guy, like he's not real,
Speaker 1: like basically like he's not a professional. So now humbly
Speaker 1: saying this after five years, it's a blessing that this
Speaker 1: company believed in me because I'm one of their biggest assets.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: They believe in me the same way I believe in
Speaker 1: my kids and when I take something to my rep
Speaker 1: or they take it to Austria to the headquarters, They've
Speaker 1: never second guess anything. Now, if that makes sense, I'm
Speaker 1: a global ambassador for them.
Speaker 2: So what does that entail? Like? I know that you
Speaker 2: partner to do the videos, but what is like a
Speaker 2: globe ambassador? So like, let's do with Red Bull. People
Speaker 2: think it's just an energy drink, but they're big on
Speaker 2: the community. Bro. I'm not rich, you know.
Speaker 1: Every year they help me do turkey drives in my hood.
Speaker 1: They help me help AU teams in my hood. They
Speaker 1: help me help single moms. They helped me renovate basketball
Speaker 1: court in my hood. And the one thing that people
Speaker 1: don't know about Red Bull that I love. They don't
Speaker 1: want no credit, bro. They want to empower the athlete
Speaker 1: to give back to their community. And that's why I'm
Speaker 1: partner with Nike and Jordan Brand, because they don't want
Speaker 1: you to do the pot like the other day I played.
Speaker 1: I played Boys and Girls Club growing up.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: If it wasn't for the Boys and Girls Club, Bro,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be the man I am today. If it
Speaker 1: wasn't for coach Jill and coach Swhitty playing for Number
Speaker 1: six Uptown of Coolidge and a Rudolph football field.
Speaker 2: We went back with Jordan brand. Bro, we just gave
Speaker 2: away three hundred pair of Jordan's. Wow.
Speaker 1: You know what with my rep from Jordan Brands, I said,
Speaker 1: how y'all want me to post? He said, if you
Speaker 1: want too, cool, but if not, we want to. We
Speaker 1: want you to keep giving back to your community.
Speaker 2: That's what it's all.
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about we giving them the ross
Speaker 1: Jonts were giving them the krim Della crymp.
Speaker 2: Bro. I got a video.
Speaker 1: I gave a kid some retros, Like I mean, I
Speaker 1: didn't post it on my instag because I got big.
Speaker 2: See the thing I told you with this Instagram, I'm
Speaker 2: not big on its exploiting my hood for sure. I
Speaker 2: gave a video to a kid, bro, real talk. The
Speaker 2: boy started crying. Bro, he wouldn't let me go. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 2: I gotta call the next game the next name. But
Speaker 2: it was so yeah.
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, y'all give him a second.
Speaker 1: And that's what my life's all about. And that's how
Speaker 1: I feel about the companies that are with PlayStation. We've
Speaker 1: done three game rooms. In neighborhoods that people would say,
Speaker 1: Oh no, they were, but you know why they do
Speaker 1: it because they want to give back.
Speaker 2: If you signed me as a brand, you're not signing me,
Speaker 2: you signed my community.
Speaker 1: And that's why with Red Bull, when they were telling
Speaker 1: me the infrastructure they could bring to my company, not
Speaker 1: just the content, that's why I signed with Red Bull.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this. We have to get
Speaker 2: you out of here. You've had everybody on your page. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're pretty consistent.
Speaker 1: Do you have to like lock in or is it
Speaker 1: just like once you start shooting, your mind automatically, is
Speaker 1: like I don't care who you are Kat Williams to
Speaker 1: doctor Dre, to Rashid Wallace to Kevin Garnett. Does it
Speaker 1: not matter who is there or you like internally.
Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, this is Kat Williams. Well, people
Speaker 2: like Kevin Garnett, Rashik already shoot. Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So if you're going by starstruck, I would say the
Speaker 1: one person that I was starstruck to help with the
Speaker 1: artist shooting.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It takes a lot, you know, really yeah, because we're
Speaker 1: all humans. But excuse me, I was I'm not being
Speaker 1: funny bro like don't make fun. But everybody, like all
Speaker 1: the celebrities I've done, I like, yes, I did Cat Williams,
Speaker 1: but the same way I feel about Cat Williams and
Speaker 1: the same way I feel about Jamie Fox and Mikes,
Speaker 1: the same way I feel about you.
Speaker 2: So I don't really do the level thing.
Speaker 1: But just to be clear here, because people be in
Speaker 1: my DMS acting like I'm too big time. Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: not doing a shooting video with every single person like
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense, if that makes sense. But I
Speaker 1: would say the one person that basketball has had me
Speaker 1: meet that I was just.
Speaker 2: Like, damn like it, like it's real. It was Tom Cruise.
Speaker 2: You met Tom Cruise basketball.
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise team reached out to me and they said, uh,
Speaker 1: Tom is very stimulated by your trick shots, Like.
Speaker 2: Because you know I'm jumping out the planes. You know
Speaker 2: he does own stunt. That's me. I'm going see.
Speaker 1: People don't understand, bro, this ship Red Bull ain't about
Speaker 1: to sign somebody that's a I like, they're not about
Speaker 1: to post fake content. Bro, you think I want to
Speaker 1: jump off a bridge, but you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So Tom's team was like, hey, we want you to
Speaker 1: do all the stunts for our mission. Impossible, tiktoks wow,
Speaker 1: damn yes, I'm down. And at the end you get
Speaker 1: to meet Tom. So they Paramount hired me. We did
Speaker 1: all the stuff, and at the end I messed up,
Speaker 1: though I'll tell you I messed up. Don't ever talk
Speaker 1: when somebody you really want to meet talking. He was
Speaker 1: trying to praise me so much that I got uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: Really not because it's Tom So. He was like, he
Speaker 1: was like, man, tell me truth, man your content, man,
Speaker 1: Like how you making a shot underwater? And I kept
Speaker 1: cutting them off because I don't do well with praising
Speaker 1: because we were taught to always look forward.
Speaker 2: But now I do a better job at receiving.
Speaker 1: Even when you was just praising right there, I can
Speaker 1: run out, really yeah, because I don't want my brain.
Speaker 2: I didn't make it. That's how I'm tricked. Still. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you you okay, let me let me just say,
Speaker 2: and I don't want you to run out to me.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's easy to make it an NBA
Speaker 1: or nothing like that, but walking a path that's already
Speaker 1: created is much easier than creating a path. You created
Speaker 1: a path that other people can be like I can
Speaker 1: do what legal shooter can do. Like, that's not that's
Speaker 1: no small fee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, God is good. God is good. You're a trail blazer.
Speaker 2: Yeah nah, I think you are too man. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: appreciate that, and I hate comming it too. I'll run
Speaker 2: out now, but.
Speaker 1: Like it's super dope, like and I love that you are.
Speaker 1: You know, content is a one, but your training is
Speaker 1: a one too, and you're working in and then you
Speaker 1: still get back to your community and you don't feel
Speaker 1: the need to publicize it like in our day and
Speaker 1: age some people and I I fall closer to your
Speaker 1: side of this, Like I get why people do it,
Speaker 1: but like personally, I feel like I understand when people
Speaker 1: are like I don't want to publicize that part. But
Speaker 1: on the other side, people like it inspires you and
Speaker 1: all that type of stuff. Sometimes I feel what I
Speaker 1: don't like is sometimes I feel like people only do
Speaker 1: it because they want the social media praise for it,
Speaker 1: and sometimes you exploit some people exploit the person for
Speaker 1: the content. It's very easy with our brand, so like,
Speaker 1: for sure, all you have to do is which I
Speaker 1: would never do. This is how I feel people are
Speaker 1: menial position due they see somebody online saying they're struggling,
Speaker 1: but the person's going viral. Then here they come in.
Speaker 1: They're gonna say, oh, we'll buy you, We'll buy you
Speaker 1: a house. The reason why they bought them the house
Speaker 1: is because they already told CNN, MSNBC and everybody that, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get the social currency. And I feel like
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that if you're trying to expire.
Speaker 1: But I feel like in today's world, I just feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of stuff is done for the attention.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: Now if I'm at an event, parents are recording me
Speaker 1: and they post yeah, or the Boys and Girls Club
Speaker 1: does want to post me, which happened the first event
Speaker 1: we did. The Boys and Girls Club of America was
Speaker 1: like hey, man, like it's okay, we posted and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Like yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, But that's
Speaker 1: not what my heart is. My heart is to help
Speaker 1: as many people as I can without using them as
Speaker 1: a crutch. And I feel like when you come from
Speaker 1: where I come from, in the hood, people try to
Speaker 1: use the hood for that for that for sure, Like
Speaker 1: make a wish program, yea bro, Like you get what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, all right, Well, We're gonna get
Speaker 1: you out of here, Lethal Shooter before we go, let
Speaker 1: people know what you're working on, where to follow you,
Speaker 1: all the things you said in the podcast. Yeah, guys,
Speaker 1: you know I'm Chris Matthews aka leathal Shooter. You can
Speaker 1: find me on Instagram, Lethal Shooter, TikTok, lethal Shooter and.
Speaker 2: Hey man, thanks for having me. I understand it now.
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