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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys like T D. Lamb and now your hosts

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Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner, and Kyle Yeomans. It's

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Speaker 1: another Thursday edition of the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show,

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Speaker 1: presented by Miller Lank, Kyle Yeoman's, Dane Brugler, Jeff Kavanaugh,

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Speaker 1: Kevin kat Turner. As we are forty nine days out

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Speaker 1: from the NFL Draft in Cleveland, Ohio, and we've got

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Speaker 1: some compensatory picks to talk about. The comp picks have

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Speaker 1: come in and the Dallas Cowboys have a league wide

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Speaker 1: high of four comp picks, and we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: each one of those. But first I wanted to just

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Speaker 1: kind of get where everybody's at. It's been a crazy

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Speaker 1: have been paying attention. Dak Prescott of course signing his

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Speaker 1: long term deal with the Cowboys this week, the press

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Speaker 1: conference yesterday that I didn't actually get a chance to

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Speaker 1: watch yet, I'm gonna be honest with everybody because I

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Speaker 1: was doing college basketball. However, I did hear that it

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Speaker 1: was an all time great Jeff cabanall and it was

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Speaker 1: one that's a classic among Cowboys fans, or it was

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Speaker 1: it classic because it was good or bad? Because I'm

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Speaker 1: no lie at all. I have not heard even a

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Speaker 1: single word from it. I think Kyle that it was

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Speaker 1: very very clear that Jerry had missed the microphone. He

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Speaker 1: was ready to rock. He was ready to rock. He

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Speaker 1: kept the traditional live of circumcising insects. He had himself

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Speaker 1: a great time. But yes, we now exist in the

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Speaker 1: world where we got cow picks and a quarterback. Life

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Speaker 1: is good, Katie? Is it? Is it really that good?

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Speaker 1: Because now we can kind of look at the draft

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Speaker 1: board with a little bit more accuracy. And sure, I

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Speaker 1: mean there's gonna be some pieces that fly in here

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Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks with free agency in

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Speaker 1: the new league year. But the Cowboys at least have

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Speaker 1: that first domino that's fallen. Yeah, And I think the

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Speaker 1: comp pick thing is it was the most exciting thing

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Speaker 1: we had I had two days to process that I've

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Speaker 1: looked at these COMP picks and going, okay, we knew

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Speaker 1: we were gonna get four. We did. Likely one of

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Speaker 1: that's the thing that got my trade bones jumping, Like,

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Speaker 1: for instance, m Dane, would you h like to trade

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Speaker 1: seventy five and ninety nine to get up to fifty eight?

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Speaker 1: Would you like to trade forty four and ninety nine

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Speaker 1: once the COMP pick came in, because look, Byron Jones,

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Speaker 1: we all question like, should they have signed the Robert

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Speaker 1: a fourth round com pick for excellent Robert Quinn was

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Speaker 1: terrible for the Beers last year. It was two sacks

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Speaker 1: what a good decision. Now the Byron thing we can

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Speaker 1: question because there's a reason where really scouting these cornerbacks

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Speaker 1: really hard. But that's the thing that kind of got

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Speaker 1: me a real giddy yesterday was getting all those COMP

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Speaker 1: That's there's So with more picks, the more opportunity. You know,

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Speaker 1: we don't need to be talking about quarterback anymore. And

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the draft, we've been saying it

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Speaker 1: that's not going anywhere. And thankfully the deal got done,

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Speaker 1: so you know we can we can stop that charade

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Speaker 1: Those are the four comp picks of the Cowboys ultimately

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Speaker 1: look at as a huge plus because, like Kat just said,

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a different dynamic this year.

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Speaker 1: So now with that said, again, I still think that

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Speaker 1: at certain positions it's a it's a deep group and

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Speaker 1: that's something I'm looking at. Um. You know, I'm not

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Speaker 1: ten players. You know, it's maybe trading a fourth rounder

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Speaker 1: But we think that the Cowboys would like to have

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Speaker 1: him at thirty six, because now you've got extra picks

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Speaker 1: to move around. I don't know exactly where each corner

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Speaker 1: don't think we'll make forty four and if we need

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Speaker 1: just it opens up. I think the possibility of guys

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Speaker 1: and I don't think he's making it to forty four.

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Speaker 1: But Kat has already drawn us up away to get

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Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, I don't think we spend enough time talking

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Speaker 1: about Laton Vanderish because that's a thirteen million dollars fifth

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Speaker 1: think the creativity that you're allowed to have. When you

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Speaker 1: Does that change your thinking at all? It's being cute.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing about mere good. That's why I grew

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because where I get torn is I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you my biggest struggle in this draft. When the

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Speaker 1: I bet the best players available will be rashaunse Later

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Speaker 1: Like my best players play offense. And I'm sitting here going, Okay,

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Speaker 1: still actually inviting for Captain train down to Rhyde because

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Speaker 1: either direction. My problem remains the same that at ten,

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Speaker 1: not picking the best player available, and that hurts my heart. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of all, I'm glad you brought that up about Vanderesh

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Speaker 1: the first fifteen picks, Okay, so you know, let's look

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Speaker 1: at the top eight or nine pass rushers in this group.

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Speaker 1: You know, you've got Augillary and Quittipey and Jalen Phillips

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Speaker 1: and o Way and Rousseau and bash him and try

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Speaker 1: on Osai. One of these guys is gonna fall to

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Speaker 1: forty four, you know, probably more than one. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that there could be value there with whichever

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Speaker 1: one of those guys falls, and then even in the

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Speaker 1: third round with a guy like Rashad Weaver from Pitt

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Speaker 1: or Patrick Jones his teammate at Pitt, and in the

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Speaker 1: fourth round Chauncey Golston. So second, third, fourth round, there's

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Speaker 1: going to be some pass rush options. And you know

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Speaker 1: it might be where there's a player at safety or

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Speaker 1: corner that they have rated higher that might be available.

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Speaker 1: But I think second, third, fourth round there's going to

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Speaker 1: be a pass rusher available at that point that's going

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Speaker 1: to at least make them stop and think and consider

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Speaker 1: them at that point, Jeff. And it is so to

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Speaker 1: Dane's point, like when you asked, like what round is

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Speaker 1: the sweet spout, in my mind immediately went to the

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Speaker 1: exact same pick because I don't think you're gonna pick

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Speaker 1: one at ten, because I don't think there's one that's

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Speaker 1: deserving of the tenth overall pick. And will there be

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Speaker 1: some in this class that we'll look back and be like,

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Speaker 1: oh I should have been picked at the top ten. Sure,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's just a matter of figuring out with one.

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Speaker 1: Basham is a name that is really intriguing to me.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips is a name that's really intriguing to me.

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Speaker 1: That's Wake Forest and that's Miami, and it's just a

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Speaker 1: matter of, you know, how does this board fall. And

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Speaker 1: it makes me think, because I've seen the Cowboys do

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Speaker 1: this before, that I can almost draw this map of

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Speaker 1: how this draft goes that if there's not a lot

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Speaker 1: of moving around that get ready for Patrick Certan or

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Speaker 1: Caleb Farley at ten and at forty four, if the

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Speaker 1: right safety is there, maybe they do like maybe you

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Speaker 1: go a different position, but I really feel like it

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Speaker 1: lines up that if you want an edge guy, forty

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Speaker 1: four is the spot. And everybody may have different favorites

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Speaker 1: for that, and dan Quinn may have different favorites for that.

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Speaker 1: But the two names for me which are my edges

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Speaker 1: three and four is Jalen Phillips and Carlos Basham, which

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Speaker 1: one if one of you gets there, I think they're

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Speaker 1: absolutely worth the pick. The positions so important. That's the

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Speaker 1: thing is, even if you feel like I'm rock solid

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Speaker 1: with Tank and I like and believe in Gregory, I

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Speaker 1: want four good edges if I can find them, and

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Speaker 1: most teams don't have it. But just you know, between

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Speaker 1: your depth chart and just the positional value, how important

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Speaker 1: it is. I think it lines up pretty well at

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Speaker 1: forty four, and it's where what they do at ten

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Speaker 1: really does change the way you think about the draft,

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Speaker 1: because what if it is let's say it's a slater

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Speaker 1: the tackle from Northwestern at ten, and you're there, well,

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Speaker 1: that's what you're thinking. But then they're like, oh man,

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Speaker 1: we didn't think, you know, bash them or Ronnie Perkins

484
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Speaker 1: would be there or you know, or something like that.

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Speaker 1: And let's say they like the guy and they go

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Speaker 1: defensive end at forty four. It feels like if that happens,

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Speaker 1: then they might might get aggressive and pair seventy five

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Speaker 1: and ninety nine to get up to fifty eight and

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Speaker 1: get a corner, because I know there'd be a lot

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Speaker 1: of Cowboys fans freaking out if you had gotten through

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Speaker 1: two rounds of this draft and they still haven't drafted somebody,

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Speaker 1: I would be freaking out. I feel like that would

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Speaker 1: cause a little bit of chaos surround here. I think

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Speaker 1: the other pass rush I want to throw out there, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Ronnie Perkins from Oklahoma. I think that you know this.

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Speaker 1: They went defensive line from Oklahoma last year. They could

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Speaker 1: do it again. On day two this year. Um, I

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Speaker 1: think he has a lot of things that say Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: including a six game suspension for testing positive. But uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's Uh, I believe it. It was just a field

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Speaker 1: drug test, so it's just a little THHC in there,

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Speaker 1: I believe right. Yeah, yeah, I couldn't care less. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean this guy's got he's got length, he's got power,

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Speaker 1: he's balanced, he can free himself from blocks. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: he was really productive for OU, So I think he

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Speaker 1: could be a name that's on the radar there at

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Speaker 1: forty four. Well, then I'm gonna throw in a name

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Speaker 1: because I like Peyton Turner at Houston. Just super long, versatile,

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Speaker 1: a little bit of tackle, a little bit of end,

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Speaker 1: knows how to use that length. He's uh, he's got it.

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Speaker 1: I think I like more than others. I've got him

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Speaker 1: as like a second round guy. Am I too high? Dane?

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Speaker 1: Is that too high? No? That's uh yeah, I've got

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Speaker 1: a I got a late too on him, So I

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Speaker 1: mean I'm pretty close. I mean he's What I love

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Speaker 1: most about him is he makes some plays that he

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Speaker 1: has no business making because his effort is consistent, the

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Speaker 1: motor doesn't quit and you'll love to see that. And

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Speaker 1: I think you're you're right about the versatility he can

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Speaker 1: kick in and you know, reduce inside on third downs. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe he's your new Crawford on that defensive line.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot to like about Turner. While we're throwing

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Speaker 1: out names that we like, I know you guys talked

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Speaker 1: about this earlier, but I have heard rumblings that the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys do like Tommy tom Guy out of Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: I know you guys just talked about him a minute ago,

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Speaker 1: and I threw an inn in his name that is

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Speaker 1: not actually in his name. It's I think it's to Guy.

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Speaker 1: Is that it Dane? Is it just Tommy Toga toy Togy? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so there's like an e, but that not actually an

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Speaker 1: E tokey? I Tommy Tokey. I. Yeah, I've heard him.

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Speaker 1: I've heard rumblings the Cowboys do like what he puts

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Speaker 1: out on film. So maybe that's somebody they look at.

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Speaker 1: Where would he be sweet spot? Is that a third

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Speaker 1: fourth round guy? I think third round, mid third round.

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Speaker 1: I think right where right about where they're picking. And

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Speaker 1: you know he's that one technique, you know, he's he's

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Speaker 1: stout he's his strength out standing. He's also got some

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Speaker 1: flexibility to him. I mean, he was really the defensive

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Speaker 1: MVP of the Buckeyes that late run they made this year.

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Speaker 1: In the Big Ten Championship game against Clemson, he was outstanding.

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Speaker 1: And then he didn't play in the national title game

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Speaker 1: because of because of COVID, so uh and you could

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Speaker 1: tell his absence was definitely felt in that in that contest.

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Speaker 1: So a lot to like about him. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how much pass rush he's gonna give you, and so

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Speaker 1: I think just understanding what a strengths are um. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's a dominant run stopper who has a little bit

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Speaker 1: of upside as a pass rusher. While defensive line might

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Speaker 1: be a sneaky need for the Dallas Cowboys, tight end

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Speaker 1: might be a sneaky need for other teams. And if

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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts falls to pick number ten, could the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: trade out of that pick for a team that wants

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Speaker 1: going into the break, and this comes from Ernie. He

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Speaker 1: says Kyle. If the quarterback falls to pick number ten.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, excuse me, I'm looking at the wrong question, Ernie.

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Speaker 1: I love your question. We've answered that before though on

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Speaker 1: this show. If the quarterback falls to ten, who could

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Speaker 1: trade down? But base basically the same question, but with

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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts. We've talked about some of the teams that

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Speaker 1: need quarterbacks. We've talked about some of those trade down

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Speaker 1: options potentially for the Cowboys, like the Colts or the

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Speaker 1: Bears and things of the sort along the way that

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Speaker 1: could be trying to come up and get a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Are there any teams, Jeff, that you see a little

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Speaker 1: bit further down the list that would be really interested

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Speaker 1: in coming up and getting Kyle Pitts if he should

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Speaker 1: fall to pick number ten, I should want Kyle Pitts.

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Speaker 1: And that's the only thing I struggle with about Kyle

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Speaker 1: Pitts is just battling kind of history, right, We're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're the great tight ends in the league come from

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Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, I'm not in the top ten.

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Speaker 1: But I can't hold that against him. He's a monster,

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Speaker 1: He's a stud. I would just pick him. Answer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've accidentally fallen in love with Kyle Pitts and Jalen Waddle,

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Speaker 1: Which that's what I do, right, I want to pick Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just that they're they're both unfair, they're just the

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Speaker 1: mismatch that Kyle Pitts is is incredible. Yeah, just pick him,

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Speaker 1: Like sure, yes, there are other teams that I think

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Speaker 1: would be interested in him, and it's all of the teams.

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Speaker 1: So like, could you trade away from Kyle Pitts and

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Speaker 1: get some value for that? Maybe not like quarterback value.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna hold somebody up, but man, everybody should

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Speaker 1: want Kyle Pitts. Kyle Pitts is a he's a rock star.

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Speaker 1: He's a freak show. When I go to twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: there's a good chance Michael Gallup is not on this team,

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Speaker 1: and there's a chance that Blake Jarwin's on this team.

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Speaker 1: So what's the point, I mean, what's wrong with having

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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts on your team? Then? Like, I know we

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Speaker 1: all think immediately, and we should, but we also did

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Speaker 1: just sign our quarterback to a pretty long extension. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna be here a while. Like I understand the idea

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Speaker 1: of like, oh, we gotta go for it now because

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Speaker 1: we haven't been to a championship game in all those

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Speaker 1: three decades. I understand. But Kyle Pitts is not stopping

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Speaker 1: you from going forward. Oh no, he's not. He's not.

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Speaker 1: So like, let's just, you know, take the good player

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Speaker 1: right there. So I ain't mad at him. I know

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of freak out if that

640
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: does happen. I'm mad at him. You take the guy

641
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: who's awesome. Yeah, there is no question that's I'm not

642
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: trading away from Kyle Pitts. I'm not gonna beat that guy,

643
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I think, I mean. Jeff's point is, uh,

644
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's factual. We don't see a lot

645
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: of tight ends drafted top ten pan out the way

646
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: that you know, the you would expect. But I just

647
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: we'd never seen a guy like Kyle Pitts. That's not hyperbole,

648
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, like we we just we don't see guys

649
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: like Kyle Pitts very often. His athleticisms, ball skills. I

650
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: just it's it's rare, and he's getting better and better. Um,

651
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: you know, like, uh, in high school he was he

652
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: was not like a pass cat. He was a quarterback

653
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: and defensive end. He wanted to be a tight end.

654
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: He had actually transfer schools to a place where they

655
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: let him play tight end. He wanted He was playing

656
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: quarterback and he wanted to play tight end. He wanted

657
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: to be Jared Cook, he wanted to be Eric Ebroun. Yeah, Hill,

658
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: and well, I mean he's a smart guy. He knows

659
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: where his strings are and so. But the high school

660
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: that he transferred to, they were basically a power run team,

661
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: so he was blocking more than he was catching the

662
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: football and then you know, didn't too much as a

663
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: freshman at Florida. Last year, as a sophomore, he had

664
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: like six drops. I mean, you saw the talent, but

665
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: it was you know, flashes more so than consistency. And

666
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: based off of flashes, I still he was I think

667
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: the eleventh overall player on my board coming into the

668
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: year this year zero drops, and we saw just a

669
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: polished pass catcher, a polished weapon. So he's getting better

670
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: and better and that's kind of scary. So yeah, I'm

671
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: if somehow he's available at ten, I'm drafting him and

672
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm feeling great about it, and I'll figure it out.

673
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: If you miss Kyle Pitts with your throw, like if

674
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: you have a really bad quarterback and you miss five

675
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, eleven yards, he'll catch it. It doesn't

676
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 1: matter where the ball is, it doesn't matter. We all

677
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: just talked a big game right there, though. I want

678
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: to do a quick exercise, and it may sound crazy

679
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: since we're all at different remote locations. Kyle away in

680
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,479
Speaker 1: as well. Yep, I'm gonna count us down three two one,

681
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna yell out the player. You would

682
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: take it ten. If it's Slater, I'll even throw Pina

683
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 1: Sul in there, so we're having fun. Slater, Seul, Pits Wattle,

684
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:37,959
Speaker 1: Certan Farley three two one Pits Slater. Oh, I guess

685
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: if you threw Seul in there, I would I would

686
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: pick Seul, but Slaters it would be offensive tackle there

687
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: for me, I think out of the bunch. If if

688
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: it's all those players, huh, you dirty dog. You didn't

689
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: play the game, I said, Pitts. I just kind of

690
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: said it, not loud, but I don't know. I didn't

691
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 1: feel like, well, here's the problem with the kat games.

692
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: Kate T's games and game shows. They're always great, but

693
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: the rules get sworked squarely on you and you don't

694
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: give prep time because like Sewel and Slater are both

695
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: those two and Pits they're all probably for me. If

696
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: you eliminate the quarterbacks, they might be the three best

697
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: players in the draft class. I mean, yep, you're not

698
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 1: you If you told me they picked Pinay Suel, Rashaan

699
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: Slater or Kyle Pitts, I would say, you're gonna have

700
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: a lot of the fan base it's like, what the hell, man,

701
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: when are you gonna fix the defense? And I would

702
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: just go, well, they picked a dude that deserves to

703
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: be picked in the top ten, and you're picking a

704
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: guy for a half decade maybe ten years, So good pick. Like,

705
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: you're not going wrong with any of them. You're not that.

706
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: The top five players in this draft non quarterbacks for

707
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: me are Sewel, Chase Pits, Waddle, and then Slater, So yeah,

708
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: I'm with you. To me, it was a a top

709
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: five player and then after that it's you know, maybe Farley.

710
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, the top five players in this class non

711
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are those five guys, and probably none of the

712
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: five will be there for you a ton. Oh what

713
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: a jerk. Probably it's a good chance, but hey, you

714
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: know what, that really works out because it takes the

715
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: pressure off the Cowboys. They're just like, all right, we

716
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: can take certain and feel fine about it. Yeah, that's trude.

717
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: We're not skipping over somebody that we love. Yeah. Yeah.

718
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: Because as if any of those five guys falls and

719
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: you don't take him, and then you take the guy

720
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: that you're pretty much supposed to I guess, or that

721
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: you've been pigeonholed into picking, which is Patrick's Utan or

722
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: Kay Lafarley, then you're gonna look at the other guys

723
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: down the road, and man, man, what about that guy

724
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts that we could have had, but instead he's

725
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: going along and playing really well for I don't even

726
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: know who the team is directly behind the Cowboys at

727
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: this very moment. But here's another question, and I just

728
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: go for Oka saying we need to do another show,

729
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: because I'll go eleven hours on how Jalen Waddle doesn't

730
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: move like other people move. Jaylen Waddle is Oh my god,

731
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 1: I'm like he's going to be a New York Giant

732
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: at eleven Oh No, You're just gonna have to hope

733
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: he pulls a hamstring or something. Because I saw Jalen

734
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: Waddle Labama receiver get covered once and it's because they

735
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: ran a bracket with a deep safety and one of

736
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: the bracket guys held him like that. You can't cover

737
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: Jaylen Waddle and the acceleration, the speed, the change of directions.

738
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: And I'd say, what, I don't even think he's a

739
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: very good route runner and you can't cover him because

740
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: he just moves different than everyone else. It's not fair.

741
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: He's a lot better route runner than he was last year.

742
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: I think he's really improved. But yeah, he's he's more

743
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: he's like hesitate and go like it's mostly just physical

744
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: and it's and it's, oh my god, it's incredible that work.

745
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: I mean, just the threat of his speed has defenders

746
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: just like, okay, what do we do? What do we do? Okay,

747
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta play off, I gotta okay, I

748
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: gotta jump on his first movement, I gotta. I mean

749
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: it just it. It creates doubt in the minds of corners.

750
00:38:55,120 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: It's great, but I mean, honestly, I don't know does

751
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: he make it that far. I don't know if he

752
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: makes it out of the top nine picks. Because he

753
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: is that good. He belonged somewhere in the first in

754
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: the first nine picks. So we're picking three quarterbacks in

755
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: the top ten, three wide receivers in the top ten,

756
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: two offensive tackles. What would that be. That's tight picks

757
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: right there. That's say four quarterbacks, four quarterbacks go top nine,

758
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: and then you got, uh so five more picks and

759
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: if it's sewell, Chase Pits and Wattle Slater and then

760
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: well then let's say those four and then you've got

761
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: and then that last pick before comes down the Slater Farley.

762
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: Maybe Parsons, I mean, really, that's realistic for the top nine.

763
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: You know you're looking at You're looking at Sir Tan

764
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: Slater Farley. I mean that we've been kind of talking

765
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: about those three all along. But Parsons, if the Cowboys

766
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: will do it, I would tell Parsons, which honestly, I mean,

767
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: I know you guys aren't as excited about him, But

768
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: as long as I'm comfortable with the character, um, I'm yeah, No,

769
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: I don't sound I don't know enough about the character too. Um.

770
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean, we we've we hear things secondhand, and so

771
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: you know, we don't know one hundred percent. But if

772
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm a team and I'm comfortable with the character. He's

773
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: the top ten talent. Easy for me. Um, let me

774
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: ask you that is this? Uh, if the pick is certain,

775
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: are you excited about that? No? But I'm comfortable. That's

776
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: I think that's the perfect way to say it. Like,

777
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna be sitting there like high five

778
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: in people like we did last year when ceedee lamb.

779
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be toasted beers and and and throwing

780
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: a celebration or running to the star and back. I'm

781
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: gonna be saying, Okay, that's a good pick. I mean,

782
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: that's a pick that we made. And now let's move

783
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: on and let's try and fix this defense a little more.

784
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: That's a pick that's one we may I feel fine about.

785
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,959
Speaker 1: Let's let's say, don't go back to like the realistic option.

786
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: Just say I don't think the Cowboys would do the

787
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: whole pits thing, but they might, but like the realistic

788
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: options of offensive tackle or cornerback. Like I listened to

789
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: the Draft show on Tuesday, it was a good fight

790
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: that Bucky and Brian and Dave were having about well,

791
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: what would you rather have that second round group of

792
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: cornerbacks or that second round group of offensive tackles, and

793
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: I think I would rather be in the mix with

794
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: that second round group of cornerbacks. So I mean, if

795
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: Certan's the pick, I feel fine about the flexibility that

796
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: it gives me for the rest of the draft. But

797
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: I think I would be more excited about maybe Rashawn

798
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: Slater and kind of trying to revitalize that offensive line

799
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: and then getting one of what I could do in

800
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: the second round. But then again, I'm more excited about

801
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: drafting Kyle Pitts just because potential to be the best

802
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: player in the draft. Soe, Farley or Slater, you have

803
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: to take one of those team players at ten. Can't

804
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 1: you take Slater? Thank you? I haven't. I haven't grated higher,

805
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: but like it's close Slater, Yeah, I mean I think Slater.

806
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: So for me personally, I think Farley is tantalizing talent,

807
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: but I actually think Farley's a risky pick. I think

808
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,479
Speaker 1: in the top ten. I think in the top ten

809
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 1: if I picked for Shawn Slater, you'll have some people

810
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: who are questioning, like, well, not the prototypical build. But

811
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: I would just be like, guys, I picked a stud

812
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: left tackle for the next twelve years, And I think

813
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: the way people talk about Pinay Soul, they should be

814
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: saying Pinay Soul and Rashawn Slater. I think that's how

815
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: good I think he is. Wow, that's I mean, that's

816
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 1: a high praise because Pinay Soul and we've talked about

817
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: this previously, and I know, Dane, one of the first

818
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: shows that we did, you said Pinay Souls the best

819
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: non quarterback in this draft? Is he still that guy

820
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: for you? Just really quickly? Yeah? For a twenty year old,

821
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: what he's doing out there is just silly. But I

822
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: really do like Slater as well. I mean, he's he's

823
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: a bona fide top ten pick in this draft and

824
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: a really good player. And if that's if that's the

825
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: pick of ten, I'd be excited if I was a cowboy. Gosh,

826
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: isn't this so much fun? Being able to make these

827
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: conversations and not have to throw quarterback potentially in the

828
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: mix or put it in the back of our mind.

829
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: I love this. We mentioned that I got to think

830
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: about Trey Lance now, that sort of athleticism, He's got

831
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: the big arm. He could be Decks understudy for three

832
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: or four years and then you can cut him. That's

833
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 1: not what I was expecting you to do. That was funny.

834
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: So Katie specifically you were talking about that second round

835
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: group of corners. I want to Aaron Porter asked the question,

836
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: and we'll take a break after we talk about this.

837
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: But Elijah Molden out of Washington strictly a slot corner

838
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: or could you potentially see a shift to safety because

839
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: I know the Cowboys have looked at him as a

840
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: safety in this draft just from conversations. But is there

841
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: a chance that he sticks a slot corner because of

842
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: how talented he is there, I don't see why you

843
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: would want to move him from the thing that he's

844
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: awesome at. So, like, you know, that's where I'm Elijah Molden. Um,

845
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: he's from Washington for this that don't know five ten

846
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: about one ninety. But I mean, look, he's on the

847
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 1: field all the time for me, and I'm not moving

848
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: him away, you know, from from slot corner if I

849
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: don't have to. Now the thing is like to me,

850
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: like late in the year, they started tinkering with the

851
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: idea of and I know we have a new coaching

852
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: staff on defense, but they started tinkering with the idea

853
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: of putting Jordan Lewis at safety, and I'm like, why

854
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: did you guys start working on that years ago when

855
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis couldn't get on the field. So but the

856
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: idea that they're looking at guys to potentially play safety

857
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: is encouraging because again, as we know, this regime is

858
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: not taking safety terribly seriously over the years. But I

859
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: think I think if you're drafted Elijah Molden, you're taking

860
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: him because he is the best slot cornerback in this draft.

861
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: Black into discussion, That's what he is, and I don't

862
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: I don't have any reason to really move him because

863
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: that's a very valuable position. He could be the best

864
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: slot corner unless you just want to move our Darius

865
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: Washington in there. But I like Molden. I think he

866
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: could play safety. And the reason I think that is

867
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: what jumps out to me about Elijah Molden is just

868
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: that he appears to be incredibly, incredibly football smart, like

869
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: the positions that he puts himself in a lot of

870
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: the zone stuff that they do. He's gonna follow the

871
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: quarterback's eyes, he's gonna have a really good idea what's happening,

872
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: and he's gonna go get his hands on the football,

873
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: so I can understand it if you want to. But

874
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm also with kat the spot where he lined up,

875
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: he played it really, really well. But I do love

876
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: the way he plays when they're running their their zone,

877
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: where he's just kind of drifting out to where he

878
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: knows the ball's gonna end up, and it does. He's

879
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: a beast. Moulden's awesome. I mean, instincts are off the charts,

880
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: the way he can quickly process, very coordinated, he breaks

881
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 1: on the ball to make plays at the catch point,

882
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: and then his compete skills are off the charts. So

883
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: do you wish he were bigger, longer, maybe had a

884
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: little bit more twitch to him? Yeah, you wish he

885
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 1: just he had that. But you know, you know he's

886
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: got some Buddha Baker to him, you know, to make

887
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: a Washington connection. Wow. And you know, Buddha Baker is

888
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: one of the highest paid safeties in their league. So

889
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: there's a lot to like about mold and he's he's

890
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: a top fifty player in this draft, and so he

891
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: should be in the conversation of forty four. I like it.

892
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: Flexibility options never a bad thing, I don't think whenever

893
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: it comes to players like him and whatever. You know,

894
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: the talent is there, and then he could also play

895
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: a couple different spots and maybe fit in where you

896
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: need him and then hey, we'll figure it out from there.

897
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: So I like that idea overall. When we come back,

898
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: let's do some tell me More's a couple Twitter on

899
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,120
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900
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,399
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901
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,640
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945
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: in in terms of tell me more's in this draft class,

946
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 1: and our friend Dustin gave us a whole list of guys,

947
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,359
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948
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949
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: do mention a lot of names on this show, but

950
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: it's nice to get deeper into some of these guys.

951
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: So we're gonna start off with a couple of his

952
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: potential names. Jamar Johnson, free safety out of Indiana, Dane Wick.

953
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 1: Can you tell me about what Johnson brings to the table, because,

954
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: like we said, safety could be a very very intriguing

955
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: need for the Cowboys now that these comp pics are here, Yeah,

956
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: I like Johnson in the third fourth round range. He's

957
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: only a when you're a starter, m but he was

958
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: really productive this past year at four interceptions, did a

959
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: nice job finding those passing lanes. I do question about

960
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: his want to his his toughness, his discipline as a

961
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: run defender. Um, I want to see him, you know,

962
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: kind of he's a little choosy in that area, but

963
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: in terms of awareness, in terms of range, in terms

964
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: of ball skills, I think he could be the interchangeable

965
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: safety and nickel that you're looking for. Anybody else have

966
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: an opinion on Johnson? No, sir, you do, but I

967
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 1: will tomorrow. Yeah, hit me up tomorrow. I'm about that life.

968
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: I know you have an opinion on Divine Diablo though

969
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: out of Virginia. Ten. Let's go, let's go, let's go.

970
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: I know you have that guy guy um and by

971
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: hate a strong word, right and by hate, I mean

972
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,720
Speaker 1: has him lower than me, which means say hate him. Um.

973
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: I was surprised when I watched the Divine Diablo tape,

974
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: which that's the best name in this draft, first of all,

975
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: and I think it's it's just it's not normal to

976
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: see a six three, two hundred and twenty seven two

977
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: thirty pounds safety. But he played the position for Virginia

978
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: Tech really well. Like I think his awareness in zone coverage, Like,

979
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: as a guy of that size, you're not going to

980
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: ask him to, Hey, let's play man coverage on a

981
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: slot receiver. I think that's a danger zone. But I'm

982
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: watching him like, man, this really really big safety. Like

983
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 1: he runs fine, he moves well, he's tracking running backs

984
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: in the run game. He can move, he can tackle.

985
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: He made a really nice read where Trevor Lawrence never

986
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: even saw him coming as a backside safety to pick

987
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: off a ball against Clemson. I like Divine Diablo like

988
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: I would, I would be Okay. I think what's gonna

989
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: happen as a lot of teams are gonna be like

990
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: where's he playing? Like is he gonna be a linebacker?

991
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: Is he gonna be a box? Say he's not a

992
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 1: free safety, So I really like him, but I also

993
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: acknowledge the what exactly are you doing with him? You're

994
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: either doing box safety or you're gonna say, all right,

995
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm turning this guy into a linebacker. But he's one

996
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: of He's one of the my favorite guys I've watched,

997
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: and I've got him as like a if you're letting

998
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 1: me make picks, I would pick him somewhere between the

999
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: mid end second round and they're in the third round.

1000
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: I like him now, he's a gamer. I guess where

1001
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: I'm at on him. As kind of that same discussion

1002
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: is if I don't immediately know what I'm going to

1003
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 1: do with the guy, then how high can I take him?

1004
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: And it just leads me to the to the very

1005
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: friendly boat. I'll just let someone else have him and

1006
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: we'll go to war with him every once in a while.

1007
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: I've got him in my fourth round of mix though,

1008
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, like I've got him in that mix of

1009
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: guys who I like. I know he'll definitely help me

1010
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: on special teams. I'm probably grooming him to be a

1011
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: strong safety, but maybe he is a linebacker. I mean,

1012
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: it's not uncommon to see linebackers two hundred and twenty

1013
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: five pounds. I do think he's a pretty reliable tackler. Um,

1014
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: you know my issues. And I know he had four

1015
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: interceptions in twenty twenty. So the tape that I saw,

1016
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: he wasn't asked to play in space much. And I

1017
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: know he had some snaps at free safety, but you

1018
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: didn't see him play in space enough, and to see

1019
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: it and run and things like that, that just it

1020
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 1: just wasn't encouraging for me. So you know, again, I

1021
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: don't I don't hate the guy at all, but he

1022
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: is a Day three guy for me. But you know,

1023
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: fourth round you need a safety, maybe a guy that

1024
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: can play a linebacker. Maybe you've got a plan for him.

1025
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with the pulling the trigger on that guy. Yeah,

1026
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: And I kind of went the opposite way than Jeff

1027
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: where I when I watched him over the summariz, I

1028
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: this guy maybe a top one hundred guy. I like him.

1029
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: And then then where I watched it a senior. I

1030
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: don't know, I kind of walked or backed off that

1031
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: just a little bit. Um. I mean I still like him,

1032
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: you know, as a fourth fifth round guy somewhere in

1033
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: those mid rounds, Um, I don't know. I just I

1034
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 1: want more explosiveness at my safety position. I want more, um,

1035
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: you know, kind of what Katie was saying, be able

1036
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,280
Speaker 1: to play in space, have the recovery speed to make plays. Um.

1037
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: Now I think he's you know, he's kind of tailor

1038
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 1: made for that. Um you know, like a box safety,

1039
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: that robber scheme. Um. You know, he could do that

1040
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: really well. But he's just not gonna be a fit

1041
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: for everybody. Another name. What about Jordan Smith defensive end

1042
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: out of U A B. The Blazers having Jordan Smith there?

1043
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: I believe he was a transfer right Dane Florida. Yeah,

1044
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: he got into some some trouble there. Um. Oh yeah,

1045
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: trouble guy. But you know he's really really talented. If

1046
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: he's got length for days, um, and he's still figuring

1047
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: out how to use that. Um. So there's he's a

1048
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: little bit of an older guy. He's already or he's

1049
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: gonna turn twenty three in April, and he's still a

1050
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: little bit of a developmental guy. And so, um, you know,

1051
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: where do you play him? He played in a three

1052
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: to four at at Ua b Um, you know, is

1053
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: he gonna be a hand on the ground rusher for you?

1054
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: Can he play off the ball. Is he a sub

1055
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: package guy? I don't know. I think he's really really toolsy.

1056
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: I know that length, athleticism. You know, he's just scratching

1057
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: the surface of what he can be. But he still

1058
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: needs a lot of work, you know, and you know,

1059
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: for where am I going to be able to draft him?

1060
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would draft him in the

1061
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: first two rounds, but after that, I think you'd consider it.

1062
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: Anybody else knows. I think Dane probably had a great

1063
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: scouting report and I can't wait to watch. So what

1064
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do is other than my guys, I'm just

1065
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: typing down names so that I can watch him. It's

1066
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: gonna be amazing. This is good. I like, this is

1067
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: a good exercise. Can I throw out a name too?

1068
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: I mean kind of the toolsy, you know, a Pastorsher

1069
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: type of guy. Where are you on hammocah Rashed Junior

1070
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: from Morgan State. Yeah, he had such a ridiculous twenty

1071
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: nineteen season. I think he was he led the nation

1072
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: and tackles for a loss more than Chase Young. Um.

1073
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: I he's another tweeter, you know, like he's he looks

1074
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: like he's probably a three to four only guy. Um

1075
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: he's he's a little tight hipped, he's a little stiff.

1076
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: He's more of that face up pass rusher. But you

1077
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: know he's a signmon sound. He plays physical the point

1078
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: of attack. I like his attitude. I just think he's

1079
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: a sub package three four outside backer. You know a

1080
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna you know you want on your depth chart,

1081
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: but I don't know that you know, you necessarily want

1082
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: him as a starter or kind of key piece of

1083
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: your defense. So quality depth guy somewhere probably in those

1084
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: mid rounds. It's pretty wild. Fourteen sacks in twenty nineteen

1085
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: and then I mean obviously twenty twenty was shortened, but

1086
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: zero sacks in twenty twenty after fourteen sax season. It's

1087
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, just kind of when everyone in dradar

1088
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: and now I watched and you're watching his tape. I

1089
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: was like, I've got I've got fifth round on him.

1090
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 1: So Jeff, I got another guy to add to your list.

1091
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: Uh and Katiano's telling me if you come come on,

1092
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: Simi Fehoko wider Fiver at a Stanford You know, you

1093
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: know how I know his name? How's that? Because I

1094
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: didn't have ta going Uh ucf corner in my first

1095
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: two corner, first two rounds. So he DMS me and

1096
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: he said no going. And I was like, hey, I

1097
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: hadn't watched twenty nineteen UCF yet, hold on and he

1098
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: was like, watched the Stanford game. Here you go, so

1099
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: take go and wants me to watch this guy. Yeah, Wow,

1100
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: Joko's interesting. He's he's he's long, he's rangey, he's a

1101
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 1: little raw for a guy that's already twenty three years old.

1102
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: He's he's a two year mission guy. Uh, you know,

1103
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: religious mission and so that kind of you know, he's

1104
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: a little bit of he's a little bit more work

1105
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: for an older guy. But man, he's watching UCLA tape

1106
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: from this year. He had a ridiculous game. He's a

1107
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: fun player to you know. He's a Day three receiver,

1108
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, a guy with him upside and

1109
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: a guy that could end up being a better bro

1110
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: A couple other names. What was that, Katie? Oh about

1111
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: some guys that we haven't talked to about kree Uh.

1112
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: Troy asked, what about Milton Williams, defensive lineman from Louisiana Tech.

1113
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: We do love our law tech bulldogs here in Dallas,

1114
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: of course, Xavier Woods, a six round pick. Out of

1115
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: there any any extra insight on Milton Williams. He actually

1116
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: Troy said that he saw him mocked by CBS to

1117
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys at seventy five, but hasn't heard anything about him.

1118
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think he'll be there at seventy five,

1119
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. Wow, Um, I think it's

1120
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: a good, good bet he goes somewhere in the top

1121
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: seventy five picks. Us Was he on my I think

1122
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,479
Speaker 1: he was six my six defensive tackle? Uh? Yeah, Yeah,

1123
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: he's he's really interesting player. He's he kind of blew

1124
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: up this past year. I mean he was good as

1125
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: a sophomore. Um, but this year is when he took

1126
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: it to another level. I love the team in tax

1127
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: for loss, in sacks. He he's there's some there's some

1128
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: Michael Bennett to him. You know, he's he's got that

1129
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: inside outside versatility where you know he could play either spot.

1130
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: He's he played about two seventy five, but he's up

1131
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: to two ninety right now. Um. Love the way he

1132
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: uses his length. He's got some flexibility, He's explosive. Love

1133
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: the effort that he plays with, so he could be

1134
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: a three technique you could play. I mean, this might

1135
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: be your Tyrn Crawford with the way he plays so

1136
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: big fan of Williams, and I think somewhere on day

1137
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: two is going to be where his values at. I

1138
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: could be right in that sweet spot for the Cowboys.

1139
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: If they're looking for defensive tackle, that's gonna do it

1140
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: for us here on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft

1141
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: Shop Draft Show. Excuse me, be sure to follow all

1142
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: of these guys on Twitter as they give out fantastic work,

1143
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: and go check out Dane's defensive line rankings on the

1144
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,439
Speaker 1: Athletic he release those here over this past week. We'll

1145
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: be back with this group next Thursday, ten am Central time.

1146
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: We'll be back with Buck, Brian and Dave on Tuesday

1147
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: ten am Central here from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. But

1148
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: until then, for Chris Beam in the back, for Jeff Kavanaugh,

1149
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: for Kevin Kate, d. Turner, and Dane Bugler. I'm Kyle Yomens.

1150
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us here on the Draft Show. This

1151
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