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Speaker 1: going out, you know, how how how people have been
Speaker 1: loving what you were doing, loving what I was doing.
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Speaker 1: perfect meal for us, Like as I look at it,
Speaker 1: like the soundtrack to my life. All the music pectus.
Speaker 1: They all talked to us. You know. I think the
Speaker 1: premise of the show is to keep it real and
Speaker 1: talk about you know, sports, but also life, culture, things
Speaker 1: that affect us, things that affect our children, our friends,
Speaker 1: our family, the world. And I think that's no you know,
Speaker 1: better segment than to lead us into it's to the
Speaker 1: China situation right now, which is uh A poorly timed
Speaker 1: tweet where yet to see what the outcome is. But
Speaker 1: the outcomes as far as I've been good. What are
Speaker 1: your thoughts? What the you know with the China situation
Speaker 1: and Maury and what Lebron said, and then where we
Speaker 1: are presently. But anytime you're facing the a question like that,
Speaker 1: regardless what you say, somebody's going to take it wrong.
Speaker 1: Regardless what side you stand on, somebody's gonna take it wrong.
Speaker 1: When you know that you're in front of a camera
Speaker 1: a lot and things are thrown at you, you gotta
Speaker 1: be prepared for things like this. It's hard for anybody
Speaker 1: on the outside looking in to have a the interpretation
Speaker 1: of what Maury and what Lebron meant. What they said right,
Speaker 1: we all heard it, But you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: What do they mean? Right? And like with Lebron, and
Speaker 1: I can say I know Lebron, I don't know Mari.
Speaker 1: I know Lebron, and I know Lebron nine out of
Speaker 1: ten times what that ten out of ten times what
Speaker 1: he's saying is coming from a good place because I
Speaker 1: know he cares about everybody. Just go to school. It's
Speaker 1: a care for from every race in the school. So
Speaker 1: when you confronted with a situation like that, and you're
Speaker 1: not fully educated with everything that's going on, and and
Speaker 1: and and and the time frame of everything. The best
Speaker 1: response that I would give give to the answers, I
Speaker 1: love everybody. That's it. I don't know, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's no way that anybody could answer that
Speaker 1: question the right way, you know what I'm saying, but
Speaker 1: saying I love everybody and being and trying to be
Speaker 1: nutuous possible because all of us on the outside looking in,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, to the common fan, I don't
Speaker 1: think they understand me. You never want to sacrifice from
Speaker 1: morals and who you are, what you stand for, what
Speaker 1: this country stands for. You know, for money. And I
Speaker 1: think obviously the financial aspect of this is the elephant
Speaker 1: in the room, so to speak. It's it's the most
Speaker 1: important um thing that people kind of have to understand
Speaker 1: is how much money China brings in as a whole
Speaker 1: to the NBA and how many fans are the biggest
Speaker 1: growing market. I want to say, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: I heard that there was more fans NBA fans in
Speaker 1: China than people in the in America. It's crazy, insane.
Speaker 1: I think it's more people playing basketball, actually playing basketball.
Speaker 1: Believe it. Then it's more people playing basketball there. I
Speaker 1: believe there's people here, you know, and as players. I
Speaker 1: was fortunate enough to go there two or three times,
Speaker 1: I think, and we go out there to put on
Speaker 1: a show, you know what I mean. We we love
Speaker 1: the support we went uh huh when we was going
Speaker 1: to Yeah, we love the support and and and and
Speaker 1: what everyone is about and uh just how much they've
Speaker 1: educated themselves and and they've grown our game. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got to realize I think that, you know, the
Speaker 1: influx and in China being a part of the NBA
Speaker 1: as the reason why contracts are so today. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's my players are making what they're making, and they're
Speaker 1: they're taking some China trips to uh promote the about
Speaker 1: their brands and whatever they're doing. You know. So you know,
Speaker 1: when you touch on this, I press he think that no.
Speaker 1: Players shouldn't have talked. You don't hurt yourself by saying
Speaker 1: no comments. Yeah, you know, there was nothing I didn't
Speaker 1: see a win, win or any kind of winning circumstances
Speaker 1: for for Lebron even speaking, you know, and for him
Speaker 1: who's been kind of the voice of players, you know,
Speaker 1: not only in the NBA but overall of just being
Speaker 1: so outspoken on everything he's been, um, you know, outspoken
Speaker 1: on and stuff. He believes in what he's about. Like
Speaker 1: he said, I don't know him as well as you do,
Speaker 1: but I just know he he means well, he's a
Speaker 1: good dude. Um. You know, some people took it as
Speaker 1: he was protecting his money so to speak with what
Speaker 1: what he came out and said, and to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, I understand that side of it because like
Speaker 1: I said, again, people don't understand that the long term
Speaker 1: play and the business side, you know, and you and
Speaker 1: he could take heat for okay, well you know you're
Speaker 1: so outspoken in America about stuff, and then you're you're
Speaker 1: somewhat bashing Mori and what Maria is standing up for.
Speaker 1: You know. Basically, I think row on agreeances is you know,
Speaker 1: for for for some of the points are arguing, like
Speaker 1: we understand where we're pro people. You know, you want
Speaker 1: to see the best for everybody and everyone have a
Speaker 1: fair chance. So I think that's kind of where Mori
Speaker 1: was coming from. It was just a bad timing to
Speaker 1: which I understand. And even if you felt that way.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just something you hold onto And I mean,
Speaker 1: that's hard for us to say because we speak with
Speaker 1: other facts on our mind. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: but like you say, it's it's a it's a double ashwood,
Speaker 1: because how could Lebron come out and say, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say something that's gonna affect how I take care
Speaker 1: of my family. That would be idiotic to him because
Speaker 1: nobody else is gonna give him the money he needs
Speaker 1: if he got broken his investments fall, so he has
Speaker 1: the right to protect that investment. But then you can
Speaker 1: have people on the other side saying, so businesses, so
Speaker 1: businesses and money is more important to people, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So you you know the correct answer,
Speaker 1: I love everybody. You love everybody, you know, But that's
Speaker 1: the only answer that that you could go with it
Speaker 1: with with a question like that, I love everybody, right,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's really it's it's a black eye
Speaker 1: right now for sports. But I think it's bigger than
Speaker 1: I think it's bigger than basketball now. I think this
Speaker 1: may have been overheightened because of you know, the political
Speaker 1: climate we're in, and you know the trade talks to
Speaker 1: the exchanges between China United States. So that's why I
Speaker 1: really feel this whole thing is above basketball now. You know,
Speaker 1: it's something that's going to have to be you know,
Speaker 1: handled by the leaders of these countries. But I think
Speaker 1: someone else, you know, that kind of can also be
Speaker 1: instrumental in, um kind of helping put this fire out
Speaker 1: is the Tasai family. The family that just took over
Speaker 1: the nets first family from uh, you know, China to
Speaker 1: own a professional team in the NBA. And I got
Speaker 1: a chance to meet them, meet the family, um and
Speaker 1: and they invest in a business that I have just
Speaker 1: a great, great bunch of people. And you know, I
Speaker 1: really you know, they sought me out. They I went
Speaker 1: out to San Diego last year to kind of help
Speaker 1: them strategize because they really I don't want to give
Speaker 1: them that's a facelift, so to speak, and really get
Speaker 1: their players, um intertwined with the China market, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, because they understand coming from there, how
Speaker 1: huge that market is and what it basis. So they,
Speaker 1: you know, they wanted to put a game plan for
Speaker 1: their players to get out there and uh be more
Speaker 1: visible out there. And UM, I think this is this
Speaker 1: is a family that could possibly help put the fire
Speaker 1: out because you know they understand both sides. They're here
Speaker 1: now as as an NBA owner and um, you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully they can help, you know, bring this resolution. I
Speaker 1: think obviously what time helps everything. I think it's really
Speaker 1: bigger than basketball at this point. And you know, the
Speaker 1: best thing would be for you know, it kind of
Speaker 1: just players to leave it alone. You know, and at
Speaker 1: the end of the days, everything is just a conversation,
Speaker 1: you know, like one thing about how we're gonna separate
Speaker 1: ourselves from any other shows that we understand as men.
Speaker 1: We can have a million discussions, but the respect never
Speaker 1: changes if we disgree, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: that's a big problem with this world. We feel like
Speaker 1: we have to agree on every fucking thing. Like everything
Speaker 1: is a conversation, and that the true meaning of respect
Speaker 1: is that when you can disagree with somebody on the
Speaker 1: topic and respect what they're saying, but disagree, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and to when we can come to
Speaker 1: that point, that will be able to fix a lot
Speaker 1: of things. It's gonna be interesting to see how it
Speaker 1: plays out, you know, like I said, with the season
Speaker 1: right around the corner, and um, the effect of of
Speaker 1: of the market. Like I said, I think the thing
Speaker 1: that will be affecting most obviously is the financial aspect
Speaker 1: of the game, you know, with with with trying to
Speaker 1: really buying in and and I want to say, they
Speaker 1: just pay one point five billion with a ten cent
Speaker 1: ten cent uh to to stream NBA games out there. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So this puts a This
Speaker 1: puts a there's a lot of money at stake here.
Speaker 1: And I already said they're not streaming the Rockets, anything
Speaker 1: from the Rockets. Yeah, one point five billion dollars streaming
Speaker 1: deal with the NBA. And um, you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: if it puts a lot of things in jeopardy. Um,
Speaker 1: like I said, normally you wouldn't want to sacrifice. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know what you stand for, principles, morals, all that
Speaker 1: kind of situation. But this is, like I said, I'm
Speaker 1: even even discussing it right now. You like you get
Speaker 1: stuck between a rock and a hard place. But I
Speaker 1: know the business of basketball and the business of the NBA,
Speaker 1: and what makes our game great the platform we have
Speaker 1: to speak and freely and and and and stand behind
Speaker 1: the things we want to the things we don't want to.
Speaker 1: But like I said that, you know, the it's out
Speaker 1: there now, it's said, and really, as a you know,
Speaker 1: there's no there's nothing to be gained from anyone else
Speaker 1: really talking about it. You know, hopefully things can can
Speaker 1: can die down and we come to some sort of
Speaker 1: resolution because at the end of the day with you know,
Speaker 1: as players, we wanted to put on a show for
Speaker 1: our fans, and I think the fans appreciate that and
Speaker 1: love that for I love us for that and want
Speaker 1: to continue to support us. So don't fall for debate.
Speaker 1: I mean, act somebody who really know what's going on
Speaker 1: as as in the trenches, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: that's involved in it. Don't ask Mario. Nobody that's seen
Speaker 1: the media is good. Don't fall for debate. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna ask somebody who winn't broke on how to save money,
Speaker 1: Like ask people who can give you an educated question,
Speaker 1: I mean educated answer on the question, and don't be
Speaker 1: and if you've been around the meeting long enough, you
Speaker 1: should be ready for ship like that, Like don't just
Speaker 1: blurt it out point blank. And now to save a
Speaker 1: lot of the bullshit we talking about now, time and place,
Speaker 1: everything is timing. The NBA season is right around the corner.
Speaker 1: To me, this is uh. This season has the most
Speaker 1: parody I think we've seen in a long time. It's
Speaker 1: been a war party. Hold on, now, you know I
Speaker 1: don't care. We don't country out what this parrot explained.
Speaker 1: Give me a definition. I can't give you the complete definition,
Speaker 1: but I think it's a level playing field. You can't
Speaker 1: be using too many big words. It's me talking to
Speaker 1: I'm not just yeah, just bounce off your teeth in
Speaker 1: your forehead. But I'm gonna give you something once in
Speaker 1: a while, and then I'll give you what I think
Speaker 1: the word means. That don't even mean the same. You
Speaker 1: can help me understand though, I got you. But like
Speaker 1: I said, I just think you know, the Warriors have
Speaker 1: their dynasty run. Uh, Katie gets hurt, Katie leaves play,
Speaker 1: gets hurt. Where does that leave them? Uh? Lebron and
Speaker 1: a d best to some of the league. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: the sky's the limit for them. I don't see anybody
Speaker 1: beating them. If they can stay healthy and the supporting
Speaker 1: Cats do what they're supposed to do. It's it's exciting, man.
Speaker 1: But then again, as I say that, the best defensive
Speaker 1: team in the league that I see. They're in the
Speaker 1: same building Clippers, and I can't I can't just count
Speaker 1: them out. So this is an exciting season. Does Russ
Speaker 1: Does Russ work with James? I think so? I think
Speaker 1: so to think so too. What does what does Mike
Speaker 1: Conley bring to to to the back court of Utah?
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell can be h a stronger version of d
Speaker 1: Wade Can. That's a good card. Like that shooting guard.
Speaker 1: He can score down where about making plays? That's gonna
Speaker 1: be special. Pelicans, they're gonna be entertaining, But I don't
Speaker 1: know about winning too much. They're gonna be entertaining. I
Speaker 1: disagree with you because I think they have a good
Speaker 1: mix of young players, veterans and role players, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I think the fact that they
Speaker 1: play hard as than motherfucker Alvin Gentry has that up
Speaker 1: and down style and pace, and they have, like they
Speaker 1: have really talented players. So you know, obviously the West
Speaker 1: is the West is going to be the West. You know,
Speaker 1: Sacramento is also good. I think Dallas, Dallas with the
Speaker 1: you know, with with their Luca and uh what's his
Speaker 1: name man, the Unicorn, the Unicorn. I forgot his name,
Speaker 1: Zingis Porzingis. He's a stone cold killer. So, I mean
Speaker 1: they I like them too together. I think they're on
Speaker 1: the outside looking and I think they're one piece from
Speaker 1: being in that Western Conference mix. I think they have
Speaker 1: that piece. I think it's gonna be a good year
Speaker 1: for Steph Curb, for Steph Curry. Steph Curry think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be a good year for him. I like that
Speaker 1: he's he stepped out I think he really stepped into
Speaker 1: his own during the playoffs. He got his money up,
Speaker 1: got married. Yeah, going down Steph Curry. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure. Excuse me, that's a lot of pressure out
Speaker 1: of a lot of pressure. The thing that I I
Speaker 1: love the Lakers because I've been critical of of Lakers
Speaker 1: management with the the bacole and the Magic Johnson stuff
Speaker 1: and who's in charge, who's calling the shots? But they
Speaker 1: put it. They put a hell of a roster together.
Speaker 1: Yeah they did. I mean they know, telling what rules
Speaker 1: they broke, all the ship they had to do to
Speaker 1: get to this point. I mean, look, you know Lebron
Speaker 1: turned his back on his team and all kind of
Speaker 1: ship happened last year with the Lakers. You know, to
Speaker 1: get to this point. So they made a lot of
Speaker 1: sacrifice and they stirred up the pot a lot just
Speaker 1: to get a D. They kind of like forced it.
Speaker 1: But then't want what I'm saying with that saying you
Speaker 1: have them, You know you have them, top team in
Speaker 1: the West, don't you? Yes? Because after Davis is Tim
Speaker 1: Duncan on steroids. To me, if Tim Duncan was athletic,
Speaker 1: he would be Athony Davis, someone you play with his
Speaker 1: best power for however, my favorite, the best team, and
Speaker 1: I played with you know what I mean? You was
Speaker 1: all right, but you wasn't Tim Duncan, right, But Tim
Speaker 1: was special. But a he can shoot threes. He he's
Speaker 1: way more athletic to him if he could stay healthy
Speaker 1: with Lebron being who he is. With Lebron been having
Speaker 1: opportunities to come off the bar and let Rondo facilitates
Speaker 1: the offense, and they both played pick a row with
Speaker 1: a D M Lebron, it can be special, man. I
Speaker 1: just want to know what the supporting cast is gonna do.
Speaker 1: They got the coaches. J Kidd is a great coach
Speaker 1: to have over there to talk to those guys when
Speaker 1: they get to Oregon, and acting like little girls and
Speaker 1: ship like that. He also got They got Lionel Hollins,
Speaker 1: don't they They gotta. They got a good staff, experience coaches,
Speaker 1: and then they got experienced role players though too. You know,
Speaker 1: Danny Green is as a as a as a champion,
Speaker 1: two time champion. They got JaVale McGee. I think the
Speaker 1: White Howard has this is his last chance, and I
Speaker 1: think he knows that, so I think he's gonna come
Speaker 1: out really focused. The person I'm really interested in seeing
Speaker 1: if he can bounce back is Avery Bradley, because he
Speaker 1: could be a huge part if you think about stop
Speaker 1: if you think about that Boston Avery Bradley, where he
Speaker 1: was a stopper, but he was also knocking down and
Speaker 1: taking big shots, you know what I mean. And I
Speaker 1: think the last few years with the Clippers being injured
Speaker 1: and in and out of the rotation, you know, people
Speaker 1: forgot about him. But I think he could be a
Speaker 1: big piece. You know, it has to be that stopper though,
Speaker 1: because they playing defense kusm. I think cous you know,
Speaker 1: Cus is kind of like a little brother to me,
Speaker 1: and I told him that's kind of the next step
Speaker 1: in his game. I think the next step in his
Speaker 1: game is really taken on that defensive challenge being that
Speaker 1: six nine uh is he six nine big? He's bigger
Speaker 1: than me. Wow long too, but you know, have that
Speaker 1: Paul George mentality where you go both ways because he's
Speaker 1: talented enough to do that. So I think that's gonna
Speaker 1: be a big step. But I like the Lakers, but
Speaker 1: to me deepens within championships. The Clippers. They Clippers. The
Speaker 1: Clippers have a team. That Clippers have a team that
Speaker 1: had bought in last year, completely bought, and they didn't
Speaker 1: really have a superstar, but they had a bunch of talent.
Speaker 1: They had a lot of talent, and everybody knew their roles.
Speaker 1: And that's you know, I think that's a big shout
Speaker 1: out to Doc because that's one thing I took from Doc,
Speaker 1: uh from playing with Doc was he was, you know,
Speaker 1: big on know your role. You know, everyone has a role.
Speaker 1: Be a star in your role for your role. And
Speaker 1: I think that's definitely what that Clipper team did. The
Speaker 1: unique because the Clipper team is the only team that
Speaker 1: can dominate them be a in that same team. You
Speaker 1: can take them to the Indie Parker United States and
Speaker 1: they won't back down. You know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: one of those teams. They got it all. It just
Speaker 1: depends on how they jail. Health. Of course, I think
Speaker 1: health is more than how they jail. I think they
Speaker 1: will jail because to me, you add Paul George in
Speaker 1: in Kauai and they're too selfless superstars, too selfless, two
Speaker 1: way players, you know what I mean. Guys don't don't
Speaker 1: say much. They just go out there and play hard.
Speaker 1: And that's with that team. That's that's kind of a
Speaker 1: blue collar, hard working contress, Patrick Belly, all the type
Speaker 1: of guys. A team they each other mo heartless. Like
Speaker 1: they got a real talented team, Zoo Box, you know
Speaker 1: who they they pretty much got for nothing. Um. But
Speaker 1: to me, I really liked the clip. Like I said,
Speaker 1: DOCA is they have Doc back being just the head
Speaker 1: coach and that's what he's great at. You know, when
Speaker 1: I was with the Clippers and things got a little dicey,
Speaker 1: Doc had a lot of different hats he was wearing,
Speaker 1: so you know, the ship on the court, you know,
Speaker 1: we had a little bit of slippets there. But Doc
Speaker 1: is back being one of the elite coaches management, you know,
Speaker 1: with Jerry West, consulting and Lawrence Frank was a big
Speaker 1: the GM it's huge, and then and then and then
Speaker 1: you know, and then then Bomber. Bomber, one of the
Speaker 1: best owners in sports, is all team and building him
Speaker 1: a new arena with his money and what is life?
Speaker 1: I gotta be life on something that's just his life. Man.
Speaker 1: He wakes up, he's he's his energy is incredible. But
Speaker 1: shout to him though I love his energy. Well, I
Speaker 1: think what's what's gonna be big about this year is
Speaker 1: there's been so much movement and you know, in free
Speaker 1: agency and big draft picks, they're gonna be able to
Speaker 1: make an impact this year. The biggest thing that people
Speaker 1: don't understand this team is always the good on paper.
Speaker 1: You know, you can have a hell of a name,
Speaker 1: you know, roster on paper, but chemistry is what sets
Speaker 1: teams apart. And and me playing on some pretty special teams,
Speaker 1: that chemistry was incredible. I saw that. Um, so you
Speaker 1: know that's what, like I said, that's what kind of
Speaker 1: can the Lakers get their chemistry? Right? I think the
Speaker 1: Clippers can because they're adding two different kinds of players,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, But that of the same mindset,
Speaker 1: same go. You know, Mike Conley is someone that doesn't
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He comes in and does
Speaker 1: his job. So, like I said, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: movement with guys that came into situations that I think
Speaker 1: chemistry is is going to be the key for their success.
Speaker 1: Chemistry is a big part. I remember one night when
Speaker 1: I left going to State and went to Charlotte. They
Speaker 1: had I was the only person to come to this team.
Speaker 1: I was able to get to the playoffs the first
Speaker 1: year there and get swept by y'all is then we
Speaker 1: beat the breaks off you guys in the first round.
Speaker 1: Jamir had nineteen points in the first quarter the first
Speaker 1: three games, and Dwight was everything. God how good the
Speaker 1: White was. Man, It's crazy because so when I was
Speaker 1: playing with dwighte in Orlando in two thousand nine, he
Speaker 1: was the leading vote getter in the in the NBA,
Speaker 1: with Lebron, with Kobe, with k D with you name him. Look,
Speaker 1: the White was the number one vote getter. And when
Speaker 1: I tell you like a healthy or the White, no question,
Speaker 1: But there wasn't a more active move your feet, block shots, rebound,
Speaker 1: hold down that paint guy I played with. You know,
Speaker 1: I I played. I got Shock on the back end
Speaker 1: of his career, but Shock dominated the paint underdefensive end
Speaker 1: like that as well. But the White was fucking incredible.
Speaker 1: If he can show a sign of that this ship,
Speaker 1: that'll be great. But to touch back on chemistry, I
Speaker 1: think that that's important because, like I said, I got
Speaker 1: to that team in the first year, and when you
Speaker 1: put yourself in a position where you're playing for your teammates,
Speaker 1: when you put yourself in the position where you put
Speaker 1: your personal gain second, you know, and everything is about
Speaker 1: buying it for the team. That's when the chemistry comes together.
Speaker 1: But I've seen teams with all the talent in the world,
Speaker 1: guys have their personal games. One guy don't like this
Speaker 1: guy because I addressed they have no chemistry. But they
Speaker 1: have all the have all the talent in the world,
Speaker 1: but the chemistry is keeping them from being great. That
Speaker 1: means everything. I mean when we went to go when
Speaker 1: I came to go to State, you know, I was
Speaker 1: I was suspended the first seven games, but when I
Speaker 1: got to play, it just it just jailed. Because we
Speaker 1: all were journeymen, you know, we we all had a
Speaker 1: lot to prove. We all had bounced around, but we
Speaker 1: all knew, Hey, Mothercker say we can play, but we
Speaker 1: know we can play, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: that chemistry playing for each other, knowing that we had,
Speaker 1: we was able to do something special. And knowing that
Speaker 1: I that I fussed with everybody on team. Everybody was
Speaker 1: my brothers. You know, that chemistry a long That's the
Speaker 1: reason why he was able to make history. There's no question.
Speaker 1: I mean chemistry. I've I've been on you know, that
Speaker 1: Clipper team can arguably say probably, uh a huge disappointment.
Speaker 1: When I look back now now that I'm you know,
Speaker 1: finally done playing, I can look back on my career
Speaker 1: and I say, what a wasted um opportunity I had.
Speaker 1: Everything we had the starting five is crazy, and then
Speaker 1: we even had a in our bench was crazy, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And I think that's perfect world.
Speaker 1: You know when you saw on the chemistry on the court,
Speaker 1: chemistry clicking, it was you know, we created you know,
Speaker 1: a live city, the best show on TV, and and
Speaker 1: we were the team that was beating the Warriors right
Speaker 1: up until they started their dynasty, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But I think the one thing that got in the
Speaker 1: way was it was off the court chemistry, I think
Speaker 1: we were you know, we were head butting each other.
Speaker 1: You know, there was little beefs and risks within the
Speaker 1: team and you know, risk between players and coaches. And
Speaker 1: I only argument we haven't at the games is who
Speaker 1: house we smoking? In this house? Are we smoking that?
Speaker 1: That's the argument we have and what are we eating? Exactly?
Speaker 1: Because but but but Park was with us and shout
Speaker 1: out Baron Davison. Um. But then you know, for me
Speaker 1: to go from that team where we should have definitely
Speaker 1: won a championship, and then my last year when I
Speaker 1: got a chance to play with Golden State, where you
Speaker 1: bring Kadie and and and you have Clay, and you
Speaker 1: have Steph and Draymond and Iquadala, Sean Liviston, David West,
Speaker 1: everyone just that the egos didn't matter. Everyone left their
Speaker 1: egos at the door and really was what what was
Speaker 1: best for the team was, and that was what was
Speaker 1: best for each individual. You know, like I said, their
Speaker 1: ultimate goal was to win. You know, everyone had to
Speaker 1: take a step back, including k D. You know, Steph
Speaker 1: took a step back. Everyone had to kind of take
Speaker 1: a step back for the greater go to the team.
Speaker 1: And they did that and they had a dynasty run,
Speaker 1: you know. So that's why this this chemistry said, there
Speaker 1: was so much move up, you know, action and movement
Speaker 1: in free agency that you know, putting these teams together
Speaker 1: on paper is great, but you gotta have that chemistry
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, that stuff that you build in
Speaker 1: the preseason and and just hanging around each other on
Speaker 1: and off the court, and and and see if the
Speaker 1: piece is fit buying then you know, like San Antonio,
Speaker 1: people on San Antonio never have just big stars on
Speaker 1: the face of the league, but they're always in the
Speaker 1: thick of things. They're always hanging around because Pop forces players.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna be a part of this Birds organization,
Speaker 1: you're gonna buy in. You're gonna play a role, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna do what's best for the team. And that's
Speaker 1: why they always win. That's why they always in the
Speaker 1: stick of things. If you look at the last ten years,
Speaker 1: how many seasons, how many teams have more fifty win seasons?
Speaker 1: Come on, there are plugs and lots about winning. There
Speaker 1: are plug in play systems, you know, similar to the Patriots,
Speaker 1: you know, but let's jump over to the East. That
Speaker 1: to me, the most intriguing team over there is the Sixers.
Speaker 1: You know, to lose a talented player which you know
Speaker 1: very well, Jimmy Butler to Miami to gain a veteran
Speaker 1: ultimate pro and al hair are Al Horford. You know
Speaker 1: they lost jj they got uh who else did they
Speaker 1: pick up here from Miami? Richardson? Uh, they they gave
Speaker 1: I don't know if he got Max, but they give
Speaker 1: to b Harris a really good contract. You know Ben Simmons,
Speaker 1: he was someone I followed um just actually just talked
Speaker 1: to him recently too, someone I followed all summer via
Speaker 1: you know, Instagram, and he really looked impressive and he
Speaker 1: was out there shooting like he wasn't thinking about it.
Speaker 1: And if he's someone that you know develops just a
Speaker 1: little bit of jumper this that this year and continue
Speaker 1: to build on it, you know, they're a scary team.
Speaker 1: And then not to mention the most talented big in
Speaker 1: the game, you know him and a D. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a true center. A D is a powerful but
Speaker 1: I'd say it just straight big in the game I
Speaker 1: would take. I would take him over no kitchen and
Speaker 1: and whoever to me and beat is the most talented
Speaker 1: big guy in the game with the part of with
Speaker 1: the Marcus is, uh, you know, bad luck and injuries.
Speaker 1: What you think about them, Who's gonna Who's gonna be
Speaker 1: the player they go to they can go to down
Speaker 1: the stretch during the clutch, that the position that Jimmy
Speaker 1: was in last year. I mean, that's gonna be. That's
Speaker 1: that's the big question for them. But I think for
Speaker 1: them to be successful, they're gonna have to go to
Speaker 1: that spurs Tim Duck and David Robinson just banging inside
Speaker 1: the whole game, throwing inside, play through your big guys. Uh,
Speaker 1: and and try to find out who your shooter is
Speaker 1: gonna be. Because those two gonna Horford and be gonna
Speaker 1: get doubled a lot. You gotta find out who your
Speaker 1: shoot is gonna be. They're gonna be tricky. I mean
Speaker 1: we've seen we've seen him and shoot a lot of jumpers.
Speaker 1: But me as you know, a lot of people can
Speaker 1: make Yeah, come on, a lot of people can make
Speaker 1: jumps in l a fitness and a lot of people
Speaker 1: can make jumpers in the first quarter of the NBA game,
Speaker 1: but can't make them in the fourth. Some of the
Speaker 1: best shooters can make him in the first quarter, can't
Speaker 1: make him in the fourth, So I want to I
Speaker 1: want to see him do it in games. I just
Speaker 1: I really want to see what Milwaukee is gonna do,
Speaker 1: you know, I really want to see what Millwake' is gonna.
Speaker 1: They could be special. And I think losing Brockden was big.
Speaker 1: It was it was big, but they they added something,
Speaker 1: d added something too. Now they could be you know,
Speaker 1: obviously Milwaukee. I think uh Nakopo, you know, being the
Speaker 1: m v P. It's crazy to think that the MVP
Speaker 1: still has more to prove or still to more to
Speaker 1: prove them. But I think he even knows that. You know,
Speaker 1: he was exposed Um on the offensive side of the
Speaker 1: ball once Kauai put them clamps because of Kauai wasn't
Speaker 1: allowing to get his easy his his buckets in the paint.
Speaker 1: So I know he's gonna come out with with the
Speaker 1: vengeance this year. Teams are gonna have to take a
Speaker 1: record to him. You know. Yeah, I like Milwaukee. I
Speaker 1: like Milwaukee a lot. Celtics losing Rhonda Arts, you know,
Speaker 1: winn Leo losing Kyrie Um. You know, this is really
Speaker 1: on the young guys now, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: You want how they wanted it though, right, Loki, this
Speaker 1: is how they wanted it, There's no quite They wanted
Speaker 1: to rely more on those two young guards, Tatum and Brown.
Speaker 1: They wanted to rely on them to you got you
Speaker 1: got the young poor Garlfers, Charlotte coming in. He's Kimball,
Speaker 1: Kimber is a problem. I want to know how he
Speaker 1: can come into a more facilitating role. You know that
Speaker 1: that's gonna be new for him because he's coming from
Speaker 1: scoring all day long and Charlotte, which they gonna need
Speaker 1: to score a little bit, pick and choose the spots.
Speaker 1: But they really want to see you know what what
Speaker 1: what those other guys who along with Hey, Gordon Haywood, Right,
Speaker 1: Gordon Haywood. I think this is gonna be a good
Speaker 1: year for him. I think I bounced back here because
Speaker 1: people forgot how good he was. And then he showed
Speaker 1: a lot of signs last year too, he showed flashes,
Speaker 1: but the level of injury. You know, it took Paul
Speaker 1: George a good year year and a half to get
Speaker 1: back to you know who he was, and I think
Speaker 1: this will be that year, uh for Gordon Haywood. I
Speaker 1: couldn't imagine that thing hurt And I'm crazy, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm don't even trying to touch my toes. I can
Speaker 1: imagine breaking my ankle and leg and trying to show. Man,
Speaker 1: let's shouts out to them boys. Man, they bounced back
Speaker 1: and looking better than ever. What do you think about
Speaker 1: the nets? I don't think about him and took Katie
Speaker 1: get back like I love I love DJ I love
Speaker 1: Kyrie like it's gonna be entertaining to watch. But that's
Speaker 1: not what we're gonna That's not the full picture, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's not what we that's not
Speaker 1: the that's not what we're expecting from them. We know
Speaker 1: Katie's coming back in the season, and um, that's what
Speaker 1: we're looking forward to see. Obviously, these guys can still
Speaker 1: make some noise. We know they're gonna compete. We know
Speaker 1: Kyrie and and and and and Brooklyn ain't gonna lay down.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I don't have high expectations.
Speaker 1: They got some talent over there where with the Vert
Speaker 1: and den Witty and um, what's the young kid's name
Speaker 1: that came from Baylor Torre and Prince he's a dog
Speaker 1: like they got they got some talent, man, And I
Speaker 1: think obviously they're in the mix too. You know, you
Speaker 1: could talk about, you know, I possibly win in the
Speaker 1: West or Eastern Conference when Katie returns. But right now,
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see if you know, who's the
Speaker 1: leader on the team, Kyrie, But I don't. You know,
Speaker 1: Kyrie is saw in Boston that that him being the
Speaker 1: leader didn't really work. It didn't work there, It has
Speaker 1: to work here. I think he took notes obviously and saw,
Speaker 1: you know, he can improve on from a leadership standpoint.
Speaker 1: As soon as he signed with Brooklyn, everybody in the
Speaker 1: organization knew this is Kyrie and Katie c what no
Speaker 1: question about it. Everybody has been there that has success
Speaker 1: last year, all that has the best the best player
Speaker 1: doesn't always have to be or it isn't always the
Speaker 1: leader of the team though, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Is it is it a then witty you know? Is
Speaker 1: he's someone that they looked to for that leadership. Know,
Speaker 1: Deandre's got years in the league. Now, I think he'll
Speaker 1: be the backbone. DJ be the backbone of the team.
Speaker 1: Ce Dj was an interesting pickup to me with them
Speaker 1: because they had, you know, success with the young center
Speaker 1: that they had before. Katie is gonna be the vocal guy.
Speaker 1: You know, Katie's gonna be the vocal guy. Kyrie is
Speaker 1: going to be the guy to keep him you know,
Speaker 1: in tune on court, he is gonna be the backbone.
Speaker 1: But it's not gonna be what we expect and what
Speaker 1: we want to see until sometimes until snipe. Get back,
Speaker 1: man shout, man, get back, get back soon, man back, Well,
Speaker 1: get back soon, my brother. Let's jump to Golden State
Speaker 1: for the for the first time. Golden State is a
Speaker 1: tricky team for the first time in a long time.
Speaker 1: You know, they're not the favorites, and you know, you
Speaker 1: hear some people even saying that they're not going to
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, struggling to make the playoffs. What do
Speaker 1: you think about that? I mean, it's just I love Steph.
Speaker 1: I think Stuff has changed the game. You know, you
Speaker 1: put him in a category with Ai. You know, guys
Speaker 1: who really changed that I really changed the game, you know,
Speaker 1: trend setter. Stuff is in that category definitely. But that
Speaker 1: team is a different team without Clay Thompson. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: people underrate Clay Thompson. They don't speak about him enough.
Speaker 1: Don't give him his props. He's been one of the
Speaker 1: best two way players in the game. Team because we
Speaker 1: are two way players and that's why Clay has my respect.
Speaker 1: Without Clay, it's gonna be difficult. It's tough to say
Speaker 1: without you know, if even losing KD with a healthy Clay,
Speaker 1: if they could have you know, won the game six
Speaker 1: and then going in Toronto and one game seven. You know,
Speaker 1: I definitely think, like you said, Clay is a huge
Speaker 1: piece of that team. There was winning games six and
Speaker 1: Clay was staying healthy, they was winning games. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: So you know, the addition of D'Angelo Russell, you know,
Speaker 1: who was who was an emerging young star UM in
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference. UM, someone who can do it all
Speaker 1: on the offensive end. UM. The Warriors are a team
Speaker 1: to me, like I said, I think they're not worried
Speaker 1: about chasing down the top seed in the West. I
Speaker 1: think it's all about being in the thick of things,
Speaker 1: preservation and understanding this is a marathon. They in there.
Speaker 1: You know, they're not favorite, like I said, there that
Speaker 1: they're an underdog for the first time in a long time.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, I think Draymond is going
Speaker 1: to make sure they realize that the entire season and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be something where you know, Clay gets back
Speaker 1: in February March, and I think they're starting to hit
Speaker 1: all cylinders in the March April and gonna be a scary,
Speaker 1: scary first round opponent for whoever. They're younger too, and
Speaker 1: you know Steps the oldest on the team. Yeah at
Speaker 1: what two and where they went young they went with young,
Speaker 1: younger with with Chris from Phoenix. They got in now.
Speaker 1: So the big guys that they need to run it
Speaker 1: to run up and down the court, protect the r
Speaker 1: they're young, they got energy. Marcus Chris is gonna Stein
Speaker 1: are two really good pickups, really good pickups. So I
Speaker 1: see I have them in the thick of things. I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be interesting. Houston, Houston, Man. I see
Speaker 1: that working I mean, I see two guys that love
Speaker 1: playing with each other, that love playing basketball, that love
Speaker 1: working out, both from California, and they're real friends. They're
Speaker 1: exactly like had that kind of friendship on Gold where
Speaker 1: people know, like when you really funk with the dude
Speaker 1: sitting next to you is a different You're really willing
Speaker 1: to sacrifice any and everything for the greater good of
Speaker 1: the situation. And I think they're coming out and saying
Speaker 1: the right thing is obviously the individual accolades, they want
Speaker 1: them all. That ship don't matter no more, you know.
Speaker 1: To me, and what people forget about Houston is they
Speaker 1: just happened to run into a dynasty. They ran into
Speaker 1: the Warriors and they lost travel reason that was huge loss,
Speaker 1: huge laws someone that you know, someone that's not spoken,
Speaker 1: but some of the as players, we knew how important
Speaker 1: he was to that team, and the in the in
Speaker 1: the team knew how important. The players knew on that
Speaker 1: team how important he was. But they played with his
Speaker 1: money and he had to bounce. But like I said,
Speaker 1: they just happened to run into a Golden State, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So to me, you you you
Speaker 1: move Chris Paul, You bring in Russell rest Brook. Can
Speaker 1: it work? And and I'm with you, I think he
Speaker 1: can add a triple double to James Harden. Yeah it's
Speaker 1: gonna work. But one thing about that, you know, the
Speaker 1: one thing about sacrifice that I realized and playing on
Speaker 1: you know with Golden State, and people wanted to sacrifice
Speaker 1: when you win it? Yes, or what if they hit
Speaker 1: a you know, a tough a tough skined Uh you know,
Speaker 1: James was amazing last year because he brought them out
Speaker 1: of the toilet and and them back because him and
Speaker 1: Chris didn't have the relationship him and jameson when we
Speaker 1: went through when I first came back and go to State,
Speaker 1: we went through a tough little phase last in the season.
Speaker 1: One eight out of twenty one. We jailed. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, You're gonna have some rough patches. But
Speaker 1: that's when being a real fan, brand a brother you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't, you don't hold on to that ship. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you lose the game. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: figure it out. You know saying you depend on your brothers,
Speaker 1: you jail more on the court. You find a way
Speaker 1: to get through it without becoming the counselor or without
Speaker 1: demeaning your teammates and the media and ship like that,
Speaker 1: you find a way interna they're like, we did, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? But but when you real friends,
Speaker 1: is easier to do that. It's definitely, definitely, I completely agree.
Speaker 1: And that's what, like I said, that goes back to
Speaker 1: that chemistry, you know what I mean, Like that chemistry
Speaker 1: is is key to success, not only in basketball, in
Speaker 1: any sport, and we didn't work out in the summertimes together,
Speaker 1: We didn't meet up and work out. We just knew
Speaker 1: when it came to the season. Time we spent time
Speaker 1: together the season, but I mean in all season, we
Speaker 1: didn't work out, meet up at the gym, let's do this.
Speaker 1: We didn't do that. But because but we knew when
Speaker 1: the season came, it's time to work. And I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not out of plan for myself. I got seven
Speaker 1: eight guys that I really loved, that I really consider
Speaker 1: my brother that I might up planning for two because
Speaker 1: we're all eating from this ship. So I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: my off of them. And if a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of guys won't understand that today because they didn't
Speaker 1: grow up in the AU circuit like we did. Are
Speaker 1: you circules different now? You know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: had a lot to prove, you know, I remember, you know,
Speaker 1: definitely I wouldn have never played AU. But if it
Speaker 1: wasn't for Josh Pastner, he's actually the coach of Jarge
Speaker 1: of Tech. Right now. A little white kid pulled up
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood, put up to the projects and hopped
Speaker 1: out the car while and I had no idea who
Speaker 1: he was. I was actually worried about him because we
Speaker 1: all thought he was the cops. You know, any white
Speaker 1: kid pull up in our neighborhood at that time, you're
Speaker 1: the police. It was the same age with me and
Speaker 1: he pulled pulled up and the white Land cruise are
Speaker 1: remembers like yesterday, and it's like, I want you to
Speaker 1: play on my my AU team. I'm looking at him like, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: you gotta AU and we all laugh and I probably
Speaker 1: have to blend my hand like you don't have a YouTube,
Speaker 1: I can tell y'all pick I'll come down here and
Speaker 1: pick you up from Houston every day for practice. And
Speaker 1: it changed my life because instead of me hanging out
Speaker 1: on the park smoking weed playing basketball, I was actually
Speaker 1: playing basketball in a positive environment, learning how to play
Speaker 1: the game. I was able to travel, so, you know,
Speaker 1: like and I had to earn that though, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm I had to earn everything. It's different now
Speaker 1: now these kids you can buy your way on the
Speaker 1: AU team. You can buy your way on on on
Speaker 1: on on a big team just to be on, just
Speaker 1: to be seen with other players. That's going somewhere. You're
Speaker 1: not going so it's it's totally different now, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? But you know, I love the way
Speaker 1: we had to come up and how we had to
Speaker 1: earn everything because if we didn't have the attitude, we
Speaker 1: wouldn't have beat that one season in the first round.
Speaker 1: There's no question. It's a different mentally different ground. But
Speaker 1: with that said, kids today are talented as fucking skilled
Speaker 1: this for you know what I mean, I didn't know
Speaker 1: my protein shakes in the middle school. I have been
Speaker 1: drinking crew team and all that too. If I don't know,
Speaker 1: But let us is them and still wise, this newer,
Speaker 1: younger generation I think benefited from this YouTube generation is
Speaker 1: really benefited from seeing you know, day to day stuff
Speaker 1: at the palm of their hand and really working on
Speaker 1: their game. But we got off course back to the
Speaker 1: to the unlucky. That real lucky wasn't social media when
Speaker 1: we were playing it. Now, we wouldn't have made it
Speaker 1: four or five years if if the worldvised what a phone?
Speaker 1: So what we know, No way we gotta get we
Speaker 1: gotta get out to a whole we believe segment. We
Speaker 1: gotta make a documentary like or some sh it out
Speaker 1: of that. That sho would be crazy anyway back now,
Speaker 1: let's let's listen. I really liked this team. This is
Speaker 1: a team that is similar to to to Utah O
Speaker 1: give me similar to San Antonio. Just a great system
Speaker 1: head coach Quinn Snyder uh program where people just plug
Speaker 1: in and do and play the right way. And I
Speaker 1: think adding Mike Conley is going to be huge for them,
Speaker 1: a former teammate of mind in Memphis. One of the
Speaker 1: most talented point guards to to never make it all.
Speaker 1: He's never made All Star on thing. Has heinbly ever
Speaker 1: been All start he got he got All Star Game
Speaker 1: and All Star sick money he got that, you know,
Speaker 1: and then and Bob, Bob Donovich. I don't want to
Speaker 1: murder his last name, but I think he's going to
Speaker 1: be a huge pick up, a stretch for um Donovan
Speaker 1: Mitchell is gonna get to be so scary dog. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be a really good It's probably be the scariest team,
Speaker 1: Like like we was talking about earlier, just having him
Speaker 1: to be able to just focus on scoring and being
Speaker 1: a shoot guard at that size, you have one of
Speaker 1: the best point guards with you right now. You don't
Speaker 1: have to even think about making a play. You don't
Speaker 1: have to think about getting a big fellow in this spot.
Speaker 1: All you have to do is think about being a shoeguarden.
Speaker 1: But even with that, I think with that pressure on him,
Speaker 1: that's where he's gonna be able to make more plays
Speaker 1: and more be more creative and is not his like
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to stress off. Damn, I gotta make
Speaker 1: a player, do I score? And Mike Conley someone that
Speaker 1: makes plays and scores, you know, I mean, so he
Speaker 1: really has a good running mate right there. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: O'Neil should have a big year, the two time defensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Year and Gobert Um, you is gonna
Speaker 1: be a really scary team. Um this year in the West. Last,
Speaker 1: but not least, the Pelicans. Pelicans are gonna be gonna
Speaker 1: be super entertaining. You're gonna love to watch them, but
Speaker 1: you know they're not going to be there at the
Speaker 1: end of the season when we're talking about championships, not championships.
Speaker 1: But I think they take baby steps. Do you think
Speaker 1: that they're a team that can make the playoffs? They're
Speaker 1: not making the playoffs. Here goes our top eight playoff
Speaker 1: choices in the East. I got the Bucks one, seventies six, Ers,
Speaker 1: two Pacers, three Celtics for Pistons. I like the addition
Speaker 1: to the Joe Johnson's Big Three homie. You know, I
Speaker 1: hope Joe gets a shot. He someone really help him.
Speaker 1: You know, I think Blake Griffin is back to playing
Speaker 1: Blake Griffin. I play with on the Clippers, love with him.
Speaker 1: You know, Drumming is a big fellow homes He's a
Speaker 1: great comedian. By the way, shots funny, Blake is funny.
Speaker 1: Bro Blake is funny. Is we talk about Blake later?
Speaker 1: But anyway, six Orlando Magic. You know, they've consteadily been
Speaker 1: putting a solid team to get our hope. What's the
Speaker 1: young boy's name, the number one pick, markul uh Faults.
Speaker 1: You know, I hope he gets like Gordon a lot.
Speaker 1: You know, they got they got a lot of talent
Speaker 1: over there. Someone they gave you know, Toronto Scaring the
Speaker 1: first friend last year, Miami Heat with your boy, Jimmy Butler,
Speaker 1: I got them at seven. I think if they can
Speaker 1: somehow get a Bradley Beale or or Chris Paul. I
Speaker 1: think that like I put some you know, writing the
Speaker 1: thicker things in the Eastern Conference, and I think last
Speaker 1: but not least the Nets, you know, minus k D.
Speaker 1: I still think they they got enough talent uh to
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. I'm gonna go with I got the
Speaker 1: Bucks number one. I think you know, they got the experience,
Speaker 1: they got the coach, and I think they know where
Speaker 1: they slipped up last year. And without having Kauai, I
Speaker 1: don't see nobody really seeing them uh and took Qui
Speaker 1: leaving Toronto. I don't think anybody's seeing the Bucks. I
Speaker 1: got the seven sixes or two uh. If they can
Speaker 1: create that David Robinson tim Nugge style to played there
Speaker 1: with having those dominant big man and Ben Simonsons, they're
Speaker 1: shooting the jump like he was shooting the summer, They're
Speaker 1: gonna be real Garrea. They can easily slide to the
Speaker 1: number one in these Celtics. I want to see how
Speaker 1: they're gon jail. Finally got the two young guys brown
Speaker 1: and take them. It's their teams to see what they
Speaker 1: can do. Add In kimba UM's gonna be on defense,
Speaker 1: Marcus Smart, Marcus Smart. I don't know how they're gonna
Speaker 1: be the defensively as a team, but there you know,
Speaker 1: you know with young teams you can you can buy in.
Speaker 1: You know, I think sometimes older players are are labeled
Speaker 1: that they don't do this, they don't do that. But
Speaker 1: this team is still young enough to buy into understanding that,
Speaker 1: you know, defense, if we play defense, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a chance to come out. You know, they definitely have time.
Speaker 1: They definitely have time. Uh, We're just gonna see if
Speaker 1: they can come together defense. Like and who's gonna be
Speaker 1: the star of that team, the vocal guy on that
Speaker 1: team for I got heat. I think I think Jimmy bore.
Speaker 1: I love Jimmy Butler there. I love what he did
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. I think he can do that for Miami
Speaker 1: this season. I think he can really be that leader,
Speaker 1: that big shot maker and and and and that that
Speaker 1: attitude can just travel over to everybody on that team.
Speaker 1: I think he embodies and he embodies. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: a blue color the star. You know, he embodies what
Speaker 1: you know that organization about. So you have him high,
Speaker 1: you have a hot big beliefs at that four rocket
Speaker 1: with Jimmy five, I got the paces Aladipo come back healthy,
Speaker 1: no telling what they can do. Brockden thew I like Brogden.
Speaker 1: You know he signed a former Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1: You know, I just I just I just know the
Speaker 1: way Aladipo plays. I know how hungry is. They play hard,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I know how he
Speaker 1: was playing before he got hurt. You know, I'm excited
Speaker 1: to see that pistons. I got him at six dead
Speaker 1: Rose on the Resurgence's he bawled him back. I think
Speaker 1: he's Hungry's gonna have a big chip on his shoulder
Speaker 1: this year. Blake gonna be healthy, big cat, and they
Speaker 1: brought my boy in. Joe Johnson won a big three
Speaker 1: shot to Joe Johnson. I hope he gets a chance,
Speaker 1: you know, because I think Joe still has a game.
Speaker 1: I think he got, you know, caught up in a
Speaker 1: situation Houston where he didn't play in the playoffs. And
Speaker 1: when you get older and you don't play in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: I think other teams figure you're done. But Joe still
Speaker 1: had game. Ain't done. I battled with him in the championship. Joe, Yes,
Speaker 1: he definitely hope he gets a chance over there. Shout
Speaker 1: out to the Pitts was at six, I seven. I
Speaker 1: got to magine, man, I think those young guys, you know,
Speaker 1: they're hungry. They're always fighting around the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: it was fighting around for the playoffs. Spot. I think
Speaker 1: the experience. I think Garden is gonna come into his
Speaker 1: own again as year Bell All Star. I see them
Speaker 1: at seven and eight Raptors. Even though you know they
Speaker 1: lost Kauai I left the Raptors off my experience, I
Speaker 1: think they still got experience that they got a lot
Speaker 1: to prove, and you know we're happening a lot to
Speaker 1: prove do. Yeah, you know, I say, sometimes you do
Speaker 1: the impossible, but you gotta prove it. You gotta prove it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my topic. What you got on the West coming
Speaker 1: out West, it's gonna be fun. Man. The West is loaded,
Speaker 1: the West is the West is scary, and it's gonna
Speaker 1: it's gonna make for a good year of basketball. But uh,
Speaker 1: let's start at the bottom. Last time we start at
Speaker 1: the top. Let's start at the bottom and work our
Speaker 1: way up. You can't have two teams, but it's my
Speaker 1: fucking list. You're right, Okay, Number eight? That was easy. Yeah, Sacramento.
Speaker 1: I like Sacramento. Good young team. Uh someone we spoken earlier,
Speaker 1: Trevor reads over there, Harrison Barnes uh, you know, they
Speaker 1: got the good young uh fox Europe up, the Aaron
Speaker 1: fox Man crazy talent z. That's um. You know, Sacramento
Speaker 1: is a team that plays with a good pace, and
Speaker 1: I think they're ready to turn the corner. I think
Speaker 1: obviously adding veterans like Trevor Reads is going to help
Speaker 1: that team from a maturity standpoint and understanding standpoint. But
Speaker 1: they got a lot of talent over there. Um. And
Speaker 1: then I have also in the A spot I had
Speaker 1: the Pelicans. You know, I think they have a great
Speaker 1: mix of young players in Zion and and and a
Speaker 1: few other rookies they got. They got the good veteran
Speaker 1: pickups like j. J. Reddick, uh Favors, Drew Holiday, uh
Speaker 1: Spurs completely. I left the Spurs off and it's tough
Speaker 1: with the mar on the markets, that's tough. But I've
Speaker 1: been seeing they very well could be the A seed
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, well we could talk about what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that there's someone I feel like they could
Speaker 1: find this it's going to be in that that seven
Speaker 1: eight range. So you got triplets for eight seeds, excuse me.
Speaker 1: And it also Dallas. Yeah, the blessing to me and
Speaker 1: hopefully you know, people understand where I'm coming from this.
Speaker 1: My seven team is the Warriors. We love that's our home.
Speaker 1: But love the Warriors, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a season where fans are
Speaker 1: gonna have to understand. I think Steph is gonna have
Speaker 1: a great year. I think it's step is gonna be
Speaker 1: in the talking for m v P again. But I think,
Speaker 1: like I said, I think this team is just looking to,
Speaker 1: you know, continue to steadily improve, build chemistry with the
Speaker 1: new players we mentioned earlier, you know, Karlie Stein and
Speaker 1: christ and the rookie pool, finding out who those guys are,
Speaker 1: you know, checking out the development from the young players
Speaker 1: they got to play last year. I mean, obviously we
Speaker 1: know what Draymond can do. He got a nice contract
Speaker 1: and rewarded for Jane how talented and and he does
Speaker 1: for that team for real? Right, let me hold it.
Speaker 1: Let me hold something, bro D. Don't say that, because
Speaker 1: you know Drake, Drake really would Let me say that.
Speaker 1: Jayson Mell watch just playing Jane Rowlett to something. Don't
Speaker 1: send it to him because the last time ext some
Speaker 1: jerseys use something, shoes and all kinds. So let's see
Speaker 1: how this work playing j Rolex. That's all I need.
Speaker 1: But anyway, yes, I got the Warriors of seven. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I think when Clay comes back, they're a
Speaker 1: team that can be They're going to be a scary
Speaker 1: weather and then they're at five to eight range, even
Speaker 1: four range. They're just gonna be a tough out and
Speaker 1: a team that has vesteran experience and it's crazy to think.
Speaker 1: Some people think they won't make the playoffs, but they're
Speaker 1: definitely gonna be in the mix. I got them a
Speaker 1: little low just because I want them to conserve energy
Speaker 1: and understand that it's it's a marathon this year. Shout
Speaker 1: out to the Wars. So they got picked that was
Speaker 1: in the new Arena? Do they shout out to the Wars?
Speaker 1: It's always loved for the Wars. You already know that six.
Speaker 1: I got the Rockets. Uh. You know, we both believed
Speaker 1: that Harden and Westbrook can work. They got a lot
Speaker 1: of great pieces. I think Dan Tony's on the hot seat.
Speaker 1: He's gonna make something happen. They've been on a hot seat,
Speaker 1: but he got a cold ask so he's been putting
Speaker 1: the feature. He's the worst best coach to get a job.
Speaker 1: He keep a job, don't crazy because it styled the playoffs.
Speaker 1: That's what I call him. Dan Prony at five, I
Speaker 1: got the Nuggets. This is a young team, um exciting team.
Speaker 1: Team will was the top in the West. But I
Speaker 1: think they snuck up on teams last year. They're not
Speaker 1: gonna sneak up on team this year. Everyone knows how
Speaker 1: talented they are. A big fell in the middle. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, their young wings coming up. Interesting to see
Speaker 1: what Mike Reporter can do this year. Uh, someone if healthy,
Speaker 1: is very skilled. You know, someone that could be in rookie.
Speaker 1: He's on that Ben simmonship, So he's a rookie this
Speaker 1: year because you know he can get a chance to
Speaker 1: play last year. So someone that could really be integral. Uh.
Speaker 1: And their success for Portland's Portland has been a team
Speaker 1: that has been collateral to to to the Warrior success,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of the words of Big Brother. Them
Speaker 1: a lot but very talented obviously, you know the homie
Speaker 1: Dame shout out Dame for the album Big Dollar c J.
Speaker 1: And you know coach Stotts white Side white Side is
Speaker 1: a big pick up, you know, and they can get
Speaker 1: h what's the other guy that broke his leg last year. No, Uh,
Speaker 1: yeah he was. He was having a hell of a season.
Speaker 1: So they're a team that I don't know like it's
Speaker 1: it's I think they're a piece away, you know. I
Speaker 1: think they're one piece away from really contending. They got
Speaker 1: rid of turn in Portland and got bays Moore. No,
Speaker 1: that's not that's not that's not a good name. Base Market. Shoot,
Speaker 1: but he's cross him over in the phone booth, base
Speaker 1: More solid. He could be guarding you right there in
Speaker 1: the phone booth and you can cross the more. He's
Speaker 1: still gonna hit the window. Jerald Rider texts me, man,
Speaker 1: I've been trying to tell him, Man, when are we
Speaker 1: gonna do his story? Riding? Come on, man, easy Riding,
Speaker 1: I sent him. I've seeing a little highlight of him.
Speaker 1: Uh smoke something, bro boy. He crossed someone over, made
Speaker 1: him falling step back. So now, yeah, shout out, easy Rider.
Speaker 1: Let me look for to see who uh has real quick?
Speaker 1: Portland Baysmore is not the answer. I love him. He's
Speaker 1: a cool guy. He can shoot it left hand, but
Speaker 1: he he can't guard nobody. And then some nights he
Speaker 1: can't hear the house. If he was in the kitchen,
Speaker 1: White Side a little bit. I don't know. Bas Moore
Speaker 1: is not the answer. I don't think batesmos ans white
Speaker 1: Side he can he can help them. Yeah, white Shide
Speaker 1: could definitely help them, right, so I can have anyway
Speaker 1: moving a good Joe Johnson would have been good. Has
Speaker 1: been a nice fit there in Portland. Man that would
Speaker 1: give him the big guard that could score. They can.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Mellow Mellow is good anywhere, Church League,
Speaker 1: Lifetime Fitness Um, wherever you want to, NBA Canon, wherever
Speaker 1: you want to bring him. He's gonna be great. Kenny
Speaker 1: asked it death and pull up. Yeah, he's gonna be great.
Speaker 1: What'll touch your mellow little bit later, Let's get back
Speaker 1: to the list of Lakers. Lakers are an interesting team
Speaker 1: to me, and I think you know the expectations are
Speaker 1: through the roof. I think everyone even knows it's a
Speaker 1: new team, expectations of championship. Chemistry is gonna be key
Speaker 1: to them. Chemistry and health is going to be key
Speaker 1: for that team. I think you know that coaching staff
Speaker 1: bringing really that young team and having the respect you know,
Speaker 1: because last year I think they lost they lost respect
Speaker 1: for Luke. I mean you could tell and it was
Speaker 1: a train wreck after that. So you know that coach
Speaker 1: staff coming there, getting that respect, their chemistry, getting together
Speaker 1: and finding everybody's role, and they're gonna be a scary team.
Speaker 1: I got you taught to you know, for everything we
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier when we talked about them, very talented team.
Speaker 1: Mike Conley is going to be, you know, someone that
Speaker 1: they could possibly take them to the next level. And
Speaker 1: to me, the best team in the West is the Clippers.
Speaker 1: You know, like I said, the team that's completely bought
Speaker 1: in on that chemistry concept um. And then you add
Speaker 1: two players like Kauaii and Paul George and you got
Speaker 1: Doc there. You got everything you need to to not
Speaker 1: make it your town, but to get you a championship.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start to bottom too. I don't have the
Speaker 1: Jazz making the playoffs for two reasons. You just told
Speaker 1: me it was good for me to have them at
Speaker 1: two Did you just say this jo list? This is
Speaker 1: my list right? Two reasons I hated playing there, Okay,
Speaker 1: hated it. They're great fans though. Second reason, do you
Speaker 1: remember this, I'm shooting a free throw second round. This
Speaker 1: guy has a life size cardboard cut out of me
Speaker 1: in the jail uniform. Has that just been in trouble
Speaker 1: year before? Under the goal with the cop I hit
Speaker 1: a free throw and I'm in prison under the goal
Speaker 1: like I'm shooting you through, but I'm arrested. Us to go.
Speaker 1: I can't make that ship and I will never forget that.
Speaker 1: I talked to the guy recently. He tried to like
Speaker 1: he actually invited us. He invited us to the game.
Speaker 1: He still has the sign. That's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: One day, We're gonna go to the game and sit
Speaker 1: with that guy because he still has to sign and
Speaker 1: all that too. That would be pretty cool, But they're
Speaker 1: not on my list. Sorry. I got the Kings at eight.
Speaker 1: I'm just a Fox fan. I think this little kids
Speaker 1: taking his team places. Trevor's that glue got to a
Speaker 1: lot of teams. We know the experience and and the
Speaker 1: positive attitude and the and the veteran leadership Trevor brings
Speaker 1: to a team. I like the Kings of eight seven.
Speaker 1: I got the Warriors. I don't know what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: I'm a Clay Thompson fan. I know what Clay means
Speaker 1: to the Wars. I know how big he is. For
Speaker 1: this team, not having him as a big hole. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be hard to feel. I got the I got
Speaker 1: the Wards at seven. Six, I got the Spurs. Greg Papovich,
Speaker 1: he's still a mastermind. Got Tim Duncan over there. Hopefully
Speaker 1: it will help LaMarcus all. Just figure out how to
Speaker 1: be a dominant big man on defense and not just
Speaker 1: a defense. Learn how to go left and not go
Speaker 1: left left shoulder all the time. Expand this game. I
Speaker 1: got the Spurs and six. I think, uh they'll they'll
Speaker 1: Dey'll shock some people, especially with great poppish. I never
Speaker 1: underestimate him. Five Nuggets. We talked about a great young team,
Speaker 1: got a lot of pieces, had a lot of success
Speaker 1: last year. Don't ain't really so, But I know that
Speaker 1: they're one of the best teams in the Western Conference.
Speaker 1: That's why I got them at five. Four Rockets. Of course,
Speaker 1: those two guys can jail from four to one. That
Speaker 1: can go anyway on my list, because if the Rockets
Speaker 1: can come out and if we can actually see a
Speaker 1: triple double rust with a thirty point James, how could
Speaker 1: you beat that? You know what I'm saying, They could
Speaker 1: easily be the best team. So I have the Rockets
Speaker 1: at four. Now for three Trailblazers, I think white Side
Speaker 1: is gonna be big for them. A lot of people
Speaker 1: don't don't know how good Whiteside could be. But when
Speaker 1: you have two dominant guards like c J and Dame
Speaker 1: that can create plays and score at will, having a
Speaker 1: big man dive into the pain and cleaning up everything
Speaker 1: on offensive defense at the that's gonna be something. And
Speaker 1: then when when when cous come back, them two guys
Speaker 1: playing together along with Damon mccullor, that could be special.
Speaker 1: I got the Portland at three, of course to Clippers Kauai,
Speaker 1: Paul George, Patrick, Beverley Montres. I got them the best
Speaker 1: defensive team in the league. If they don't, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be it's gonna be a letdown. They got they got
Speaker 1: guys that they got two might be the two best
Speaker 1: two way players at the guard spot in the league.
Speaker 1: With Paul Kauai, they can score any time. We know
Speaker 1: the team going jail. We talked about that this guy's
Speaker 1: a limit for this team. They can stay healthy. Uh,
Speaker 1: they could easily be at the top of this list.
Speaker 1: But I got the Lakers for the simple fact that
Speaker 1: at one Lakers at one for the simple fact that
Speaker 1: a D. A D could have been the m v
Speaker 1: P the last three years if he wanted to. I
Speaker 1: think a D is Tim Nunan on steroids. Man. He
Speaker 1: can do it all, you know, And if he can
Speaker 1: stay healthy. The key he's never had a Lebron James key,
Speaker 1: you know, if he can stay healthy. Areably the best
Speaker 1: player Lebron's ever played with by far, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, the way you know they had, the way
Speaker 1: way was good at We know we're staying as far
Speaker 1: as big man, you know what I mean. The best
Speaker 1: shoot guard he played with d Wade. The best point
Speaker 1: guard he played with was Kyrie No. But I'm just
Speaker 1: saying overall player, overall players, it might be a D.
Speaker 1: It might be a D if you can stay healthy
Speaker 1: this whole season. With with having the burden taking off
Speaker 1: him a lot, with having Lebron having a solid point
Speaker 1: guard of Floord's general like Rondo, we're having a guy
Speaker 1: that we all respect, who we all love on that
Speaker 1: sideline of Jay Kid. It could be special Man playing
Speaker 1: on and on in the big city, on the big
Speaker 1: time team like the Lakers that he always wanted. You
Speaker 1: keep just taking when you we talk about coach, you
Speaker 1: don't ever say that. You just mentioned the assistant. Well,
Speaker 1: the reason why I say that is because I'm a realist.
Speaker 1: And if me and you was on that team and
Speaker 1: we had a serious game in game basketball question, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to vocal. I'm going to ja kid facts.
Speaker 1: So this is all the smoke, and I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: y'all all the smoke. They're not coming out the game
Speaker 1: going to vote as some coach. Should I do this
Speaker 1: fun that we're going to j k even we've been
Speaker 1: we've been really I'm gonna tell you that we've been
Speaker 1: real political this first kind of half hour five minutes
Speaker 1: of the show. They Jakid is really the coach. They
Speaker 1: got Vogal the face right now, but they all gonna
Speaker 1: be getting coached by j kidds ship. Okay, let me
Speaker 1: ask you a question, Frank Vogan, J Kid walking to Jim,
Speaker 1: Who the funk are you gonna hide your coach? What's
Speaker 1: your Instagram underscoring stack five s tak five underscoring, send
Speaker 1: all questions and comments and and how you feel about
Speaker 1: what he just said, because that's his feelings. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: how I feel to him, shout out J Kid, I
Speaker 1: vocals cool, But I know and always I like Vogal.
Speaker 1: It's because he does whole players accountable. But I know
Speaker 1: from experience, when you're coming out that game, you got
Speaker 1: a basketball question, are you see someone on the court,
Speaker 1: You're gonna go to JA kid before they go to vocal.
Speaker 1: Trust me, you're absolutely right. I just like the way
Speaker 1: you say. You say it better I did. That was
Speaker 1: the first time I said something what I stuttering too?
Speaker 1: All right, So we got so in the East, we
Speaker 1: both got the Bucks. In the West, I got the Clips,
Speaker 1: you got the Lakers. Sorry, who do you see in
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference Finals? He's the conference finals. I'll go Bucks.
Speaker 1: I go Buck seventy sixers. I mean, I can't see
Speaker 1: it getting better than that. That's what I want to see.
Speaker 1: That's must CTV. That's what I don't want to see.
Speaker 1: What you think. I can't even argue with you on that.
Speaker 1: I think Bucks seventy six will be the Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 1: But I got seventy sixers coming going to the finals.
Speaker 1: I got the seventy six is going to the finals.
Speaker 1: So yeah, if Simmons is the Simmons of this summer,
Speaker 1: they might win this motherfucker. You might running, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? They might win the summer. What you
Speaker 1: got in the West Western Conference Western Conference Finals. I
Speaker 1: think it would just be really dope to have a
Speaker 1: Battle of l A for the Western Conference finals, you know.
Speaker 1: And I think that's something later that we'll touch on
Speaker 1: in the show. But I think I'm gonna have a
Speaker 1: Battle of l A for the Western Conference finals. I
Speaker 1: got the Battle of l A, of course, because that's
Speaker 1: what everybody in this room, in this world wants to see.
Speaker 1: The finals in l A. I mean, the best two
Speaker 1: teams on paper. I mean, it would be great to
Speaker 1: see fucking the Rockets and the Lakers and somebody, because
Speaker 1: it's still be entertained because they were like how the
Speaker 1: fund did Russ and James figure it out? And Chris
Speaker 1: Paul and James, you know what I mean? So all
Speaker 1: that would be great. But the Championship of l A,
Speaker 1: to see who owned Stepid Center to go to the
Speaker 1: finals will be great. Who you got winning? I got
Speaker 1: Clippers coming out that I got Clippers coming out of
Speaker 1: the West. You got coming out of the West defense
Speaker 1: win championships, Clippers. So we have a I have Philly
Speaker 1: versus the Clippers in the NBA Championship, and you have
Speaker 1: the Clippers versus who Bucks Bucks? So who's your champion? Clippers?
Speaker 1: I got the Clippers to Clippers got too much for
Speaker 1: the Bucks last year. Ka single handedly slow grief freak
Speaker 1: down by himself. Just imagine having Paul, George and Montres
Speaker 1: to help you beat him up. Beat him up. So
Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty predictions NBA Champs. We have the
Speaker 1: l A Clippers clips y'all hold it down, man, make
Speaker 1: us look good. And low Wood just dropped the new
Speaker 1: album check it out. What's your thoughts man on Mellow
Speaker 1: you know, and it's kind of died down a little bit,
Speaker 1: but has two guys that played against him and know him.
Speaker 1: What is your outtake on this? Has he been blackballed
Speaker 1: from the NBA? Has it's the It's the same situation
Speaker 1: they did to a lot of players. They put him
Speaker 1: in a situation they know he's not gonna succeed, Make
Speaker 1: it look like he can't play no more, make it
Speaker 1: look like he's a cancer, and just push him out.
Speaker 1: And once they get you to that point, whether they
Speaker 1: you're a cancer or like you can't play no more,
Speaker 1: it's a text that's sung out to every team. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a it's a mass test that's out to
Speaker 1: every team, every every team since don't fun with him.
Speaker 1: It happened to AI, it happened to me, it happened
Speaker 1: to a lot of guys, and it's definitely happened to Melo.
Speaker 1: Melow wanted and the company guy. He's never been a
Speaker 1: company guy. You know what I'm saying. He gonna speak
Speaker 1: his mind, He's gonna martch to the beat of his
Speaker 1: own drum, and they don't like that at times, you know.
Speaker 1: And it ain't no question if anybody today say that
Speaker 1: Mellow is not better than sixty of the players an
Speaker 1: NBA right now, they are damn lives and his personal
Speaker 1: Mellow definitely belongs in the NBA. And he's definitely definitely
Speaker 1: got black ball. It ain't a secret man is as
Speaker 1: good as this guy is, definitely for sure. Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: one of the most talent to scores the game has
Speaker 1: ever seen, one of the hardest players I ever had
Speaker 1: the card, hands down, someone that could do everything. The
Speaker 1: one thing that I will chime in from a standpoint
Speaker 1: of he could have played a role in his own
Speaker 1: demise was not accepting too much pride, too much pride,
Speaker 1: not swallowing that pride. And I can't speak on what
Speaker 1: it's like for someone to be as talent to a
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer and then kind of slowly throughout your carewd.
Speaker 1: You know, we were able to play fourteen years a piece,
Speaker 1: but coming down your career and kind of having adjust
Speaker 1: from being who you were at one time to fitting
Speaker 1: a role of a team. And I think that's what
Speaker 1: Mellow had a hard time with. But you know this too,
Speaker 1: The NBA will make you think that your game and
Speaker 1: your body is done before you're actually done. Can't nobody
Speaker 1: tell you how your body feels and where your game is.
Speaker 1: But you right, it's situations, So you're right, right right,
Speaker 1: So like like today, like somebody came to me and
Speaker 1: say that Jack, you had a great champion, that a
Speaker 1: great year in the Big Three. You belong in the league.
Speaker 1: You're a damn lie. I couldn't run up and down
Speaker 1: that court one quarter half courters where I belong. Melo
Speaker 1: belongs in the league. And and and it's no way
Speaker 1: that anybody can sit here and say he doesn't. Bro
Speaker 1: So it's obvious that it's bigger than basketball with Melo,
Speaker 1: and people might not want to say. We know, people
Speaker 1: in the game not gonna say it because they're trying
Speaker 1: to protect certain ships, try to protect their teams in
Speaker 1: their organizations. But it's easy that it's been a mass
Speaker 1: tech sun around the NBA and to everybody, do not
Speaker 1: funk with Carmelo Carmelo Anthon And it's wrong because he's
Speaker 1: gave a lot to this game. He's a future Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer and most guys at that caliber deserve to
Speaker 1: go out the way they want to. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: to me, he's probably been the most disrespected Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame player we've seen on the way out from an
Speaker 1: NBA standpoint. But then just the way fans talk the
Speaker 1: same way, the same way crazy. I was thinking, you know,
Speaker 1: if he could have went in, like I said, to
Speaker 1: get back to my point, the only only only thing
Speaker 1: that I didn't like when when the things were happening
Speaker 1: was you know, if you just accept that six man role,
Speaker 1: whether you you think you you know you should be
Speaker 1: starting or not, but if you go on and just
Speaker 1: buy in for what the team is about. You know,
Speaker 1: you think if you're if you're six man, you're playing
Speaker 1: against the second or third best player in that position
Speaker 1: when you're when when you know, when you get in
Speaker 1: the game, dominate, you're gonna the offense is gonna go
Speaker 1: through you, and then you'll be playing at the end
Speaker 1: of the game. And that's what matters, you know, starting
Speaker 1: whoever starts, that's whatever, however you feel about that, but
Speaker 1: it's about who who finishes the game. And that's the
Speaker 1: gene he doesn't have, you know what I mean. We
Speaker 1: had the gene that just have an understanding, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like I said, but we weren't the
Speaker 1: level of superstar he was, Like I said, we can't
Speaker 1: speak to how hard it was to swallow, how hard
Speaker 1: that pill was to swallow, or just to have an
Speaker 1: understand it. Okay, Ship, they don't need my you know,
Speaker 1: they don't need my what I used to do. They
Speaker 1: need me to you know, fit into this role and
Speaker 1: to help this team win. And I think that's the
Speaker 1: only like I said, that's the only not granted, I
Speaker 1: could grow pent I think he's been black balled. I
Speaker 1: think he should still be in the NBA. I think
Speaker 1: he's still one of the most talented play I just
Speaker 1: think him not really buying into what teams wanted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: real shout out to Mellow, shout out to Melow Man,
Speaker 1: do you think he's done? You think Jerr Smith has done?
Speaker 1: You think these guys that you know I see working
Speaker 1: out still in and putting in the hours in the
Speaker 1: time because they do have the talent. But like I said,
Speaker 1: you can though you know j R in that category.
Speaker 1: It just brought to me that you guys can work out,
Speaker 1: but you can't give me on your team. Like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, He's got a lot of friends
Speaker 1: in the NBA, and like, like, I think that might
Speaker 1: say something though you mean, but damn that Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put myself in Brown position. I'm gonna put you
Speaker 1: in Melow position. I'm I'm straight. I know I have
Speaker 1: a pulled on the team. I know they're blackballing you.
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk. Hi, Look, you're my brother.
Speaker 1: I know they're sucking over you. I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: a job just because just because you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Because I know they're screwing you. I know you're not
Speaker 1: getting a fast shake, and it's some guys that have
Speaker 1: the poor to do that. I don't care how I look.
Speaker 1: DK River signed this son. How that look? Gave him
Speaker 1: thirty million? How that look? So speak on damn that?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Him that No, no, no.
Speaker 1: If it's your brother and you care about them and
Speaker 1: you see how they're doing him, why not helping regardless
Speaker 1: of people, black, white, green or whatever. If her brother
Speaker 1: and you care about him and you see him getting
Speaker 1: the delta uh that hand and you can help him,
Speaker 1: why not help him? I can't rebut on that, bro.
Speaker 1: So I think we're both in agreeing then that he's
Speaker 1: he probably won't get a Blacks done. I hate to
Speaker 1: say it, but it's it seems like they're trying to
Speaker 1: do my boy, um Gerald Smith the same way. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I hate to say that because
Speaker 1: he belonged on the league to man j R. Got
Speaker 1: so much game left and to see him, to see
Speaker 1: him going through that, just because he's not being who
Speaker 1: they want him to be. He's being himself. Yet we
Speaker 1: all make mistakes, Yet we all funk up. Everybody has.
Speaker 1: I love Gerard because he owns it. Anytime you make
Speaker 1: a mistake, he owns it. And the fact that he's
Speaker 1: not he's not what they want him to be. They
Speaker 1: want to push him out. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I hate he got to go through that. You have
Speaker 1: a situation similar, you know, I was luckily I was
Speaker 1: able to walk away on my terms, and not too
Speaker 1: many people could really say that. But you know I
Speaker 1: signed you on your way down and still had plenty
Speaker 1: of game, and and and you found yourself without a job.
Speaker 1: Well what was that about? Well it was hard because,
Speaker 1: like you said, you know you still can play, you
Speaker 1: know you belong in the game, and excided when the
Speaker 1: Clippers picked you up. You know, I was just like Jack,
Speaker 1: that someone that could definitely help us after that situation.
Speaker 1: I knew I wasn't because you know, the whole Dona
Speaker 1: Sterling situation. I made the song about Dona Sterling with
Speaker 1: his car face America the Beautiful. I knew after that.
Speaker 1: But the way it ended, like I was, I just
Speaker 1: started playing. Well, Chris Paul break his hand and it's
Speaker 1: a business. I understand that. And they came to me
Speaker 1: and told me we need to get another point guard.
Speaker 1: So we got because I was on the tender at
Speaker 1: the time, so I understood that. But I knew at
Speaker 1: that point basketball was over for me in the NBA. Wise,
Speaker 1: I had no idea the Big Three was gonna coming
Speaker 1: out of that, so I thought basketball was done. But
Speaker 1: I was fine with it. Fourteen years it wasn't expected.
Speaker 1: I was fine with it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it doesn't feel good to
Speaker 1: be pushed out of anything where you know you belong,
Speaker 1: where you know you paid your dudes, where you know
Speaker 1: you earned it. It It wasn't given to you, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And to be pushed out when you
Speaker 1: know you had still that game, it hurts because that's
Speaker 1: just like I can tell you what it felt like
Speaker 1: when I got suspended for the Madison Pattisos thirty games.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it felt like like the it is
Speaker 1: the game is taken from you, what you've been doing
Speaker 1: your whole like, what you love, what you know how
Speaker 1: to do best. Did just take just take the air
Speaker 1: out of you. And when I knew that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I accepted it, but I knew I
Speaker 1: had to go move on from it. But it hurt.
Speaker 1: It hurt, yeah, no, for no, no lies about it.
Speaker 1: You know, I was fortunate to be able to to
Speaker 1: play as long as I wanted and step away, you know,
Speaker 1: when I felt I was done, you know, after fourteen years,
Speaker 1: so I could, but I was completely at peace, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It was a situation where I
Speaker 1: just felt like I was missing too much time with
Speaker 1: my kids and going through the bullshit with my ex.
Speaker 1: At the time, I just was ready for what was next.
Speaker 1: You know, business started doing well that the stuff I
Speaker 1: invested in and started prior years ended. So you know,
Speaker 1: I was someone that retired and was cool. I didn't
Speaker 1: care about playing basketball no more, but still could watch it,
Speaker 1: you know, talk about it, to teach it, coach my
Speaker 1: kids in it, take my kids to games. I didn't
Speaker 1: miss it. I I you know, I didn't I feel
Speaker 1: the need to want to be back on the court.
Speaker 1: That's why I knew I made the right decision. Like
Speaker 1: like you said, we was never supposed to be there
Speaker 1: to get fourteen years to to to make you know,
Speaker 1: the money we were fortunate enough to make both to
Speaker 1: win the ring. It was a blessing. But you know,
Speaker 1: for those guys that that aren't feeling you know, that
Speaker 1: haven't come that that that still feel like they should
Speaker 1: and they should be in the NBA, you know, for
Speaker 1: them not to get a chance to be in the NBA.
Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine how that feels, and I'm sure it
Speaker 1: eats up at him, man, So I hope, you know,
Speaker 1: he comes to peace with that, or or he gets
Speaker 1: a chance to Big Three. Baby. You know, it's for
Speaker 1: guys who really love playing basketball. But it's a great
Speaker 1: sign though, because he comes out there and kills I mean,
Speaker 1: Joe Johnson, good look, you know what I mean. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure Mellow killing that too, but don't kill if.
Speaker 1: That's for guys who just loved playing basketball, though I
Speaker 1: wish I wanted to just done. Shout out to que
Speaker 1: for real, man, Jeff. The fact that you know, I
Speaker 1: mean that should is a feeder system to the NBA.
Speaker 1: Now that's a great, huge right here right here on
Speaker 1: the state. Shoutout and we shout up to Queue for
Speaker 1: what you did. Let's talk about who who? Who are
Speaker 1: some people that we want to have on the show.
Speaker 1: Who are some guests that we want to you know,
Speaker 1: my time make a call out to right now. I
Speaker 1: got three guests who I want for who I definitely
Speaker 1: want to show my top three guests, Snoop to Change
Speaker 1: and Wayne Little One. That's the guys who we both know.
Speaker 1: That's guys who I've got years of relationships with. Wayne
Speaker 1: actually got a song coming out on a new album
Speaker 1: called Balling like stack Jack. I haven't even heard yet,
Speaker 1: but he called and told me. So I'm excited to
Speaker 1: hear that. We gotta get the song on. We got
Speaker 1: to get the song on. Wayne is making an intro
Speaker 1: for this show, right him and two Chains want to
Speaker 1: make it. So we gotta talk to the high up.
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta make we gotta make that happen.
Speaker 1: You know. Snoop is the homie. You know, we do
Speaker 1: my foundation a year together every year. When I went home,
Speaker 1: he just blessed me with a care package out of
Speaker 1: this world, as he should have. My stank Soncer Snoop
Speaker 1: the same things. So Snoop can't call him old Gez
Speaker 1: because we're about the same. Mate, No, Snoop, as if
Speaker 1: we put you, are you pushing fifty? Were close to it?
Speaker 1: He like he ten years older than I see, like
Speaker 1: four years older is right? Oh he might be ten
Speaker 1: years old to mean you a little older? You got
Speaker 1: around fifty. He's I think he's pushing fifty. I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1: Ain't nothing wrong, but it don't matter, right, Come on now,
Speaker 1: the d O double still out there on the football
Speaker 1: field doing this thing. Um getting double doubles in basketball games.
Speaker 1: When the m v P showing up late coming in
Speaker 1: there playing him. He really out there playing like Will
Speaker 1: Chamber and played the shoot that Will played in snoop
Speaker 1: think the game like us. Though he got a high
Speaker 1: basketball question, he got a high basketball He's an athlete.
Speaker 1: So those are your three mine. I just want to
Speaker 1: get into good conversation, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I definitely think you know, I was over at ESPN
Speaker 1: the other day and and think I locked in Stephen.
Speaker 1: Ain't everyone saw my story. That's gonna be the show.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good one, man, That's gonna be
Speaker 1: the show. It's gonna be a good one. Another person
Speaker 1: I think who's misunderstood and I've been and I've been
Speaker 1: and I've been on top job with st Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna try to lock that in. Another person that I've
Speaker 1: been critical of. But see his see where he's going,
Speaker 1: and kind of just think he needs some O G
Speaker 1: guy in sas a b Antonio Brown. Yeah, man, I
Speaker 1: think we can get him in here. That would be big. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I mean, I think we see him because Free
Speaker 1: Games self destructing right in front of us, but got
Speaker 1: so many He's still young enough to you know about
Speaker 1: a huge fan. I'm a fan, huge fan, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I wasn't a fan of the
Speaker 1: Blond Bush Dash. That was weird, that that ship was
Speaker 1: super weird. I wasn't a fan of that. But that's
Speaker 1: I love Abe. I'm a big time Jersey sign that
Speaker 1: so a b is someone we definitely want to get on.
Speaker 1: I want to get like Shaun King in here to aw.
Speaker 1: I want to get Sean King, but I want to
Speaker 1: talk and get on the social justice that else you
Speaker 1: don't have to do three done Nelson. No, we gotta
Speaker 1: go see if we get Nelly. We gotta go. We
Speaker 1: gotta go to Maui and go get on the Nellie
Speaker 1: Cush showtime. We need to head out to Maui. Yes,
Speaker 1: in film this it'll be a legendary sit down me
Speaker 1: and Jack. We could tell all our we believe stories
Speaker 1: and they're wildest fun. And this is not Nellie from
Speaker 1: when he was coaching. This is Ponytail Nellie. Now long
Speaker 1: Ponytail Nellie. Know you're gonna like this Nellie. Yeah, nell
Speaker 1: it would be dope. He's more an hour old now
Speaker 1: I think he's been in our world. He was more juice,
Speaker 1: beers and cigars and Crown member. That's ten am cup
Speaker 1: to Crown and coffee. His dog, yeah to his dog
Speaker 1: had a cigar. What was his dog's name? Lucky Lucky.
Speaker 1: He's lucky to come to practice ship on the court
Speaker 1: in the middle of practice Lucky Lucky Lucky. Yeah. So yeah,
Speaker 1: who else? That's my whole thing? Is I just shot
Speaker 1: not only that he's gonna educate the shift out of us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no question. I followed him on. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: a big supporter of his movements about ladies. Though we
Speaker 1: said no, like, I agree. You know what, I want
Speaker 1: to talk on some ship. I want to talk to
Speaker 1: these Instagram models that bounce from an athlete to athlete
Speaker 1: and had like a real conversation with them. Well, let's
Speaker 1: be careful which ones we invite, because I might have
Speaker 1: been one of them names. Okay, to be careful with that.
Speaker 1: You have not mad at it because I'm not. They
Speaker 1: might be on Instagram, Yeah, they might have some bodies.
Speaker 1: They still look good. Yeah, I just want to have
Speaker 1: a conversation like I want to. I want to. I
Speaker 1: want to be educated. I want them to you know,
Speaker 1: gave me. Yeah, I just want to know what that's
Speaker 1: our process. I'm not knocking to hustle at all, Like
Speaker 1: I want to cut this a real hustle now right.
Speaker 1: I would like to have a conversation with them. I
Speaker 1: think I would like to have we know, we need
Speaker 1: we need to have Derek Fisher in here. Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna it's you planned it not because I
Speaker 1: don't have a fake bone in my body. You don't
Speaker 1: have to have a fake bone with me and him?
Speaker 1: Are cool? Now? Word? Yeah, I ain't trippling off, bro.
Speaker 1: I thought it was be forever. No, it's not. No,
Speaker 1: it's not you know it's be forever with me. We
Speaker 1: got to get you like that wants you to do
Speaker 1: that ship again. Just who's the next victim? Motherfucker? Who's
Speaker 1: the next victim? Now? I don't trust your don't bring
Speaker 1: that motherfuck on my set. It's good, it's good vibes.
Speaker 1: Only we don't want to know him, Tony Parker, don't
Speaker 1: bring none of them motherfucker's around there. Talk to your girls.
Speaker 1: Soon as you close your eyes and go to the bathroom. Na, bro,
Speaker 1: we don't want them on this set. Sorry, somebody else
Speaker 1: no dfish sick. I'm what's what's the female that I
Speaker 1: would like to talk to on the show? I would
Speaker 1: have to say who. I think Laura Lendon would be
Speaker 1: double to talk to. You know, she's been you know,
Speaker 1: we've been doing. I met Lauren. I met Lauren when
Speaker 1: I was about to go in the NBA, and um,
Speaker 1: you know, became friends and became friends over this long
Speaker 1: haul and then you know her journey through her career
Speaker 1: and then her situation would nip, and you know, she's
Speaker 1: a dope check and she's been really strong through all
Speaker 1: this ship. I think it would be good to you
Speaker 1: know who. I think we should bring Kate Hudson. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you why. She celebrated with us when we won.
Speaker 1: She was at our house. She's just turned Jessica out.
Speaker 1: But they can tell stories about that night that we
Speaker 1: probably don't remember. Man, we had one of the biggest
Speaker 1: games about my life. I had thirty points that game
Speaker 1: to game six like that was closed out. That was
Speaker 1: a great memory. I remember. The rest of the night
Speaker 1: was crazy too. We went out and then we went
Speaker 1: and smoking Snoop that night. I think I wanted to
Speaker 1: tap out that night. I didn't because I think I
Speaker 1: wanted because that the first time I see somebody do that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: roll it, hit it, pass it, roll it, hit it,
Speaker 1: like roll another one ever hit the same blunt twice
Speaker 1: in hours, and like why? And there wasn't enough of
Speaker 1: us in there to really go in that kind of rotation.
Speaker 1: It wasn't. I think he tried to put us through
Speaker 1: initiation real quick. You know what I remember too. You
Speaker 1: might had the party where he performed Snoop. You took
Speaker 1: my PlayStation. So when you're riding and said you have
Speaker 1: to have a PlayStation and your locker room with a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of snacks and stuff. We put all the
Speaker 1: snacks back there, and we put the Xbox. You wasn't
Speaker 1: supposed to take it, bro. He took all my games,
Speaker 1: my controllers, everything that wasn't It was supposed to be
Speaker 1: in ap for you to play. Bro. I need my
Speaker 1: Xbox back today. Let's thought about that. We gotta get
Speaker 1: him on talk about it. I need my Xbox from anyway. Man.
Speaker 1: That was a good run for the day, bro Man.
Speaker 1: Day one signing Out, Episode zero sir, we did run.
Speaker 1: Hope you guys catch this. Hope you enjoy it. We're here.
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep getting better. We're gonna keep bringing some
Speaker 1: real ship to you. Keep talking about sports life, Showtime
Speaker 1: shoutout Showtime Sports. Love to everybody. I wish I could
Speaker 1: do all the emoji fishing different colors, but I'm dark
Speaker 1: as fun, so I can't do it. But love to everybody.
Speaker 1: You are black and fun. I'm glad you know it. Anyway,
Speaker 1: We'll see you all next time. Peace. M hm mm
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