WEBVTT - Ja Morant Returns, Embiid MVP Odds, Cavs Overlooked? | WHAT'S BURNIN

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome into what's burning. I'm here with Matt Barnes. And

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<v Speaker 1>Matt my plan today was to come in and not

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<v Speaker 1>speak to you because UCLA beat Northwestern in the NCAA

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<v Speaker 1>tournament over the weekend. But it's only the two of us,

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<v Speaker 1>so that plan actually seems kind of shoddy. I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>very sad though, Rachel. I mean, you guys had a

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<v Speaker 1>brief chance. I mean, you guys had a nice, valiant

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<v Speaker 1>effort half, but you already kind of knew what the

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<v Speaker 1>outcome was gonna. We'll be all right. I hope I

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<v Speaker 1>had hope in that second half. Your voice came out

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<v Speaker 1>tight in the first half, and then we dug our away.

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<v Speaker 1>We caught our way back and it wasn't enough, which

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of the story of my life as a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of Northwestern sports teams. But you know, we got

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<v Speaker 1>back to the tournament second time ever, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>very proud of those boys. So I'm give them a

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<v Speaker 1>little shout out. And you have a sweet sixteen prediction

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<v Speaker 1>for your guys. I mean, Gonzaga, you know we've had

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, I can call it a rivalry, but

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<v Speaker 1>we faced each other enough, and you know, they knocked

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<v Speaker 1>us out in the National Championship a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>So obviously health is going to be a big part

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<v Speaker 1>us as it is in the NBA. But definitely looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to all Right, we'll see what happens. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about MBA in the meantime. John Morant, my friend, is

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<v Speaker 1>expected to play in the Grizzlies game against the Rockets

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday night. He was actually eligible to play on

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<v Speaker 1>Monday night, but it has been a while since his

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<v Speaker 1>last game. It was all the way back on March third,

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<v Speaker 1>and the team thought he needed just a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more conditioning, so instead he was courtside. He did get

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<v Speaker 1>a really nice standing ovation though from the crowdy at

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<v Speaker 1>a nice moment with Kyrie Irving after the game. Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you expect going forward with job? Because Jaren

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson Junior told The Athletic the jaw is quote about

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<v Speaker 1>to come back and run the league. Oh, I believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe the league should be on notice now. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he obviously had a lapse of judgment. Again, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't judge a twenty three old a millionaire too harshly

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<v Speaker 1>because there a few people can speak to what it's

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<v Speaker 1>like to have that kind of money, power and control.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think he had to come back down to

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<v Speaker 1>earth a little bit. He took some personal time, which

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<v Speaker 1>is always important, but I expect him to be a

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<v Speaker 1>minister society in a good way on the court. I

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<v Speaker 1>expect him to come back with a lot of energy.

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<v Speaker 1>You think about it, it was, you know, a two

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<v Speaker 1>and a half week break, someone who's logged a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of menace this season, but a great point of energy

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<v Speaker 1>art And I hope he comes back to not only

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<v Speaker 1>a warm welcome in Memphis, but just around the league

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<v Speaker 1>because I think he's so instrumental to this league as

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<v Speaker 1>far as one of the young up and coming future

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<v Speaker 1>faces of the league. Yeah, I hope so too, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think he will. I mean, this kid did not

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<v Speaker 1>commit a crime against humanity. He made some bad judgment

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<v Speaker 1>errors and certainly took a few weeks to get his

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<v Speaker 1>head straight. Hopefully made some significant changes in the way

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<v Speaker 1>he sort of behaves, runs his life, makes choices about

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<v Speaker 1>who he hangs out with, and maybe it's a wake

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<v Speaker 1>up call that is preventing more negative incident from happening

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<v Speaker 1>in the future. So all those things I think we

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<v Speaker 1>can actually look at as a positive of what Jah

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<v Speaker 1>has been going through and doing over the past couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks. I do wonder, and I just don't know

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<v Speaker 1>this because I've never been a professional basketball player. So

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<v Speaker 1>much of his game is based on confidence, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been one of the most confident guys in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think anything that's happened with him in the

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<v Speaker 1>last month or so will take a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>the window out of his sales or do you think

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to come back exactly the same kind of guy. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think one thing he'll never lack is confidence, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I agree with you that that's what makes

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<v Speaker 1>him so great. He truly believes every night he steps

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<v Speaker 1>on the floor, he's the best player on the floor,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how he should think, because the majority of

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<v Speaker 1>the night he is. So I definitely don't think he'll

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<v Speaker 1>lack in confidence. I don't even think he'll be rusty.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is a young twenty three year old

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<v Speaker 1>kid again, with plenty of energy, and I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 1>see what he does the rest of the way. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned that athletic story where Jaren Jackson was quoted.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's another interesting detail. We know there have been, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>a number of incidents with Morant prior to this latest one,

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<v Speaker 1>and that in an effort to keep Jah out of

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<v Speaker 1>further trouble. Even before he left for the suspension, the

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<v Speaker 1>Grizzlies had already started changing their travel schedule to quote

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<v Speaker 1>curtail nightlife habits, with the Grizzlies flying out of more

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<v Speaker 1>road cities, especially the glitzier ones like Miami, immediately after

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<v Speaker 1>the game instead of staying overnight. Now, Matt, those overnights

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<v Speaker 1>in Miami, I happen to know you took advantage of

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<v Speaker 1>some of those to have a little fun. I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>you tell the stories. What do you think when you

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<v Speaker 1>hear this? I mean I giggle initially from a standpoint

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<v Speaker 1>of obviously this is a serious matter, But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's a part of the best part of being in

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA is being able to hang out in the

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<v Speaker 1>er cities, whether it be off night or after a

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<v Speaker 1>game or whatever the situation is. But I think Memphis

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<v Speaker 1>understands the importance of, you know, putting him, not putting

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<v Speaker 1>him in a situation where he can mess up or

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<v Speaker 1>misstep again, because not only is he important for his team,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's important for the league. So if I'm a teammate,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little disappointed, but I also understand the bigger picture.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this team very talented and have aspirations of

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<v Speaker 1>being an NBA champion, and you want to eliminate for

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<v Speaker 1>the for the shortcoming. You want eliminate, you know, any

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<v Speaker 1>obstacles they may be sitting there and obviously you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out after in New York or Miami. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he found something to do in Denver, and that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hard to do. So I think they just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of want to eliminate any possible miss this season. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I doubt next season they'll do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But right now, it's all about business, and I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of reminds me of the Lakers, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>had you know, NBA teams used to long ago had

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<v Speaker 1>beer in the locker room after games. And when Kobe

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<v Speaker 1>Bryant got to the Lakers, he was very famously underage, right,

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<v Speaker 1>came straight out of high school, and they had to

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of the beer in the locker room postgame

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<v Speaker 1>because Kobe was on the team, and that actually caused

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<v Speaker 1>some resentment among the older teammates. I think, as you

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<v Speaker 1>point out, Jazz tighter with the guys on this team,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think they'll be a little bit more understanding.

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<v Speaker 1>But does make me think a little bit back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, did you have beer in the locker room

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<v Speaker 1>when you played at all? Or did that already pass

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<v Speaker 1>before you left? Where we got there, I was that old,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, it was still there. I mean smiling to

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<v Speaker 1>the store. I mean, if they're taking the beer out

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<v Speaker 1>and Kybe brought championships, if that means them flying out

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<v Speaker 1>of cities early and I'm bringing them championships, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>they'll they'll they'll take that as well. Absolutely all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we leave the topic at the Grizzlies, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss Dylan Brooks. You know, earlier this month when

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<v Speaker 1>Memphis played Dallas, Brooks said this about Kyrie Irving. He said, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to pick him up full every time

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<v Speaker 1>and see him get exhausted. Then we get to Monday night,

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<v Speaker 1>because Memphis and Dallas have played like a hundred games

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<v Speaker 1>in the last three weeks. I can't even keep track

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<v Speaker 1>of how many games they've played. But they did play

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<v Speaker 1>again on Monday night. Kyrie came out hot, scored nine

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<v Speaker 1>points in the first quarter, largely guarded by Brooks, and

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<v Speaker 1>they cameras even picked up Kyrie turning to Brooks at

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<v Speaker 1>one point and saying, quote, keep playing that dumbass defense.

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<v Speaker 1>So then we get to the third quarter of this game,

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<v Speaker 1>Dylan Brooks trips Kyrie. Now, the Mavericks said Kyrie was

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<v Speaker 1>not seriously injured. He stayed in the game, but he

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<v Speaker 1>did struggle the rest of the way. He was even

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<v Speaker 1>in a walking boot matt afterward as a precaution, they said. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>after the buzzer sounds, Brooks still walks up to Kyrie

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<v Speaker 1>and tries to do a jersey swap. Kyrie dig hand

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks's jersey. Kyrie had already taken his jersey off like

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<v Speaker 1>he does after every game, but he just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>ghosted Dylan. He wouldn't take his jersey. He kept walking.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyrie later said that he didn't mean it is disrespect.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just looking for a job. But what do

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<v Speaker 1>you make of the fact that Dylan was talking that

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<v Speaker 1>talk and then try to swap jerseys with kai And

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<v Speaker 1>then Kaya was like, yeah, never mind, classic classic Brooks.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, had love him. He's carved out a niche

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<v Speaker 1>for himself and he's an important part at Memphis Grizzlies team,

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<v Speaker 1>and guys around the league may not like him, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think they respect his efforts because he's going out there,

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<v Speaker 1>he's playing hard, you know, for the most part, outside

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<v Speaker 1>of getting testco fouls, you know, he makes winning plays.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure there's a sour taste in the league

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<v Speaker 1>about someone like him who has so much to say

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<v Speaker 1>that hasn't accomplished much. But I think that's what this

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<v Speaker 1>memphit steam kind of is about. You know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a team, is a young, very confident team, feels like

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<v Speaker 1>they're the best in the world. And I have no

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<v Speaker 1>issue with that. Just you know what I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to show me you have to be solid and

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<v Speaker 1>the rec then you know, when the real lights turn

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<v Speaker 1>on off time, that's when you have to back your

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<v Speaker 1>talking up. So um, I thought it was hilarious that

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<v Speaker 1>the Kyrie didn't take the jersey again. I mean's just

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<v Speaker 1>out the lot and if for an NBA, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>someone might have to you know, check that, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know the league now is that on his mouth?

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<v Speaker 1>And to me, I just you know, he has to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to back up his talking with solid play and

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<v Speaker 1>his team's ability to win when it matters the most.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that this is going to hurt like

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<v Speaker 1>because Dylan's kind of picked it guys on multiple multiple teams.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just Draymond Green, It's not just Kyrie. There's

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<v Speaker 1>guys kind of across the league that he sort of

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<v Speaker 1>started stuff with. He's going to be a free agent.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think this is going to hurt his bag

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<v Speaker 1>at all? I don't necessarily because again, I mean, his

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<v Speaker 1>numbers are what they are. I think he's, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with the tenders in the league, and I was who,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, may rub people the wrong soon as I

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<v Speaker 1>got in that locker room. Guy's love out there talking

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<v Speaker 1>as much as he was. I was more with the um.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, there was a there was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a stigma on me that you know, I hated to

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<v Speaker 1>play against him, love to have him on the team.

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<v Speaker 1>So hopefully that'll be his stigma because the kid can

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<v Speaker 1>definitely and I like it. I like it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I would have liked it if he was

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<v Speaker 1>an opponent. You know, I probably would have had to

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<v Speaker 1>say something to do something. You gotta shut that mouth up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So until you can beat them,

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<v Speaker 1>consistently or knock them out of the playoffs or give

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<v Speaker 1>them not a reason to talk. He's gonna talk, and

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<v Speaker 1>even if you do give this talk, he'll probably still

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<v Speaker 1>talk again. This is kind of just who that Memphis

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<v Speaker 1>the team is, and I know he's an important asset

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<v Speaker 1>to that team. So I like what he does for

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<v Speaker 1>his team. I love it as a fan. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not on the other end of his chirpings, but

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<v Speaker 1>so it's easy for me to sit on the couch

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<v Speaker 1>and say, or sit courtside and say, oh, this is fun,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's so much fun. Like it's so much fun

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<v Speaker 1>to watch this entire Grizzlies team and just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>their confidence, as you said, like I mean, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we need more of that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>The NBA is a sport. Sports are fun. Like, let's

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<v Speaker 1>not take all of this too seriously. I love watching

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<v Speaker 1>the Grizzlies mouth off and kind of go do their thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we need a little more of that

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA. So I'm all for it. I am

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<v Speaker 1>interested to see how many enemies Dylan Brooks makes or

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's kind of like as you said, like you

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you're a guy that got so much respect

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<v Speaker 1>from other players for the exact reason that you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll have to see if he can pull that

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<v Speaker 1>off as well. I don't know, it's interesting when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at me amphis the go ahead. No, I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, it's just you know, because it's double pronged now, Rachel,

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<v Speaker 1>because now you want to see what he does if

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<v Speaker 1>he come back it up on the corp. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you also want to hear what kind of wild shit

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna say in portside or in the lock. I was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, his little chests hair out with the with

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<v Speaker 1>the no shirt on. So he's again he's creating a

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<v Speaker 1>niche in for himself in this league. And I respect it,

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<v Speaker 1>love it, love it. I Mean it's interesting too when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at Memphis because all the drama. Look, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's a distraction, that's one thing. But the drama has

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<v Speaker 1>not really affected them on the court. They're still the

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<v Speaker 1>number two team in the West. I think they've won

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<v Speaker 1>three in a row as we sit here. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the West is a very flawed conference right now. Overall,

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<v Speaker 1>there are plenty of nights. It seems like nobody would

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<v Speaker 1>like to win a basketball game. Memphis is strong. The

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<v Speaker 1>Kings obviously have been steady. We've seen other teams. They'll

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<v Speaker 1>kind of go up and down. If I asked you

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<v Speaker 1>right now, hey, Matt, who is the best team in

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<v Speaker 1>the West, not on paper where injuries don't exist, but

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<v Speaker 1>just in reality, who is the team you would put

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<v Speaker 1>your money on right now? Which team would that be?

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't put my money on a team in the West.

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<v Speaker 1>I put my money on a team in the Beats

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<v Speaker 1>because I just feel like the West is literally you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the top three seed them for Memphis and Sacramento,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have very much playoff history, actual core. You

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<v Speaker 1>can see then the Western Finals in the bubble, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's just a little different kind of situations. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>as as much as I like or respect Yo Kitchen,

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<v Speaker 1>as much as I love O see, you know working

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<v Speaker 1>for the Kings'm out here in I love together, Rachel.

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<v Speaker 1>So we know the most important thing in the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>is experience. So then when you come to experience, you

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<v Speaker 1>look at teams that are lower than those seas. So

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the Clippers, who's made a Western Conference

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<v Speaker 1>final run and have a Kawhi Leonard who's won two

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<v Speaker 1>finals MVPs. You look at Golden State, who has the

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<v Speaker 1>most experience in this you know, in the league. You

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<v Speaker 1>look at Phoenix Suns, and if Kevin Durant can come

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<v Speaker 1>back healthy, Devin Booker has been on a terror, Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Paul's a per floor general still though he's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit older. Uh, they're tough. And then if you look

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<v Speaker 1>to me, I would I'm someone crazy enough to think

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<v Speaker 1>that if lebron can get healthy, no one wants to

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<v Speaker 1>see the Lakers at a one eight or two seven.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care who you are. So there's team the

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<v Speaker 1>most experience in championship peder Bee towards the bottom. These

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<v Speaker 1>new teams up at the top don't have very much experience.

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<v Speaker 1>So to answer your question, I couldn't really put my

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<v Speaker 1>money on anybody. I mean, it takes the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the right time to get hot and make a run

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<v Speaker 1>and then health, and and that can be from anyone

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<v Speaker 1>from Sacramento to Memphis to Denver to the teams I

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<v Speaker 1>just mentioned to, you know, Sacramento, Denver and Memphis possibly

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<v Speaker 1>getting bumped in the first round because there's quality seven, six, seven,

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<v Speaker 1>eight seeds. So I'm really excited about the Western Conference.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no clear cut teams in the Eastern Conference. You

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<v Speaker 1>can clearly say that Milwaukee and Boston, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia has played theirself in that top tier in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the Eastern Conference. But in the Western it's literally

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<v Speaker 1>a shootout every single night. You know, Denver's wet five

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<v Speaker 1>and five in their last ten. You know they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're in you know, Jeopardy, you're falling out that number

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<v Speaker 1>one seed. I think they have a three game lead.

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<v Speaker 1>So I love the West like this. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>more competitive and I think we're all going to be

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<v Speaker 1>surprised who comes out the West, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>anyone can really painpoint who that is at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious what you said about the Lebron thing, because look,

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<v Speaker 1>any Lebron James Anthony Davis team, and they've got more

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<v Speaker 1>shooting around those guys now and after the trade deadline

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. But with Lebron, even if he does

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<v Speaker 1>make it back, and the Lakers gave an injury update

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday saying, you know, it sounded more hopeful that

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to be back by the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season. Even so, don't you think that his

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<v Speaker 1>conditioning and it's been a while, don't you think that

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<v Speaker 1>the conditioning and kind of just having been away is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be an issue. You're not worried about that

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<v Speaker 1>at all, you know, with technology now, Rachel, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably been on that underwater treadmill trying to keep

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<v Speaker 1>his cardio up or on the bike. And obviously you

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<v Speaker 1>can't late NBA movement, you just can't. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's someone who is professional, and it's I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sad from a standpoint of just being such a fan

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<v Speaker 1>of him that you know, normally this guy is someone

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<v Speaker 1>who sprains his ankle. His ankle bone will hit the

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<v Speaker 1>ground and he'll tighten and shoots up and jump right

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<v Speaker 1>back up. You know, we're starting to see just Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>get old, what's coming to an end. So as a fan,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sad. I'm sad for that. We know we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have too much more time with him. But again, I

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<v Speaker 1>think conditioning could be an issue. But I wouldn't say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna lose because Lebron's not in shape or Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>has no wind. I think they did a great job

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<v Speaker 1>of bringing quality pieces in and putting role players that

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<v Speaker 1>can be stars in their role around Lebron and Inded.

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<v Speaker 1>But all this is predicated upon those two guys health.

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<v Speaker 1>But if those guys are healthy enough to be out

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<v Speaker 1>there on the floor, I mean, I think they're a

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<v Speaker 1>scary matchup of at seven or eight for a number

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<v Speaker 1>one or two seats. Well, it's gonna be interesting with them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be interesting with the Warriors. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to give a quick shout. The Warriors won a road

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<v Speaker 1>game on Monday night. Yea. It was against Houston, the

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<v Speaker 1>worst team in the Western count friends, and it stopped

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<v Speaker 1>an eleven game road skid for Golden State. We'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>address that as we go forward more, but hey, they

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<v Speaker 1>did it so wonderful. I do want to get back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Kings, because you are up in Sack right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally have the best offense ever right now. Their O

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<v Speaker 1>rating is one nineteen point four. Very impressive. Also, you

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<v Speaker 1>do have to put this into a little context though,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you look at the twenty teams with the

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<v Speaker 1>best offensive ratings in history, they have all played in

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<v Speaker 1>the last four seasons. Matt, I mean, are we at

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<v Speaker 1>the point with the way the rules have changed the

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<v Speaker 1>three point shot all that. Should we just actually stop

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<v Speaker 1>comparing current teams and stats to historical teams because I

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<v Speaker 1>keep hearing people like, oh my god, King's best offense ever,

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<v Speaker 1>everything changed. I mean it's hard to it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>know what ground you're standing on. I mean, Rachel, this

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<v Speaker 1>is like, what is it the juice ball era for baseball?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, where statistically it's hard to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? That baseball was dead and

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<v Speaker 1>they started juicing the balls and juicing themselves and turned

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<v Speaker 1>it into something that we've never seen from a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it is a little I wouldn't say

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<v Speaker 1>asterisk because you don't diffn't want to disrespect what guys

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<v Speaker 1>are doing. But it's just a different game. The pace,

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<v Speaker 1>the number, the lack of physicality on the defensive end,

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<v Speaker 1>the freedom of movement on the offensive end. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to go out there and play defense, especially with

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<v Speaker 1>these weak ass refs. So um, hats off to the

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<v Speaker 1>Kings and everyone else that that that is really doing things.

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<v Speaker 1>But we also know, you know, no matter how high

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<v Speaker 1>your offensive ratings, you have to be able to play

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<v Speaker 1>defense to win championships. And I think that's something that

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<v Speaker 1>the Kings are starting to understand. As you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>team is a tremendous offensive juggernaut, but lack defense until

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter. So I think if they started understanding,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to start playing defense when the game starts. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Sacramento can makes some noise in and although

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<v Speaker 1>they're a high seed, you know, I think as they

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<v Speaker 1>advanced it would be kind of a surprise to a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people. But they definitely have that type of talent.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone believes in Mike Brown. I think he's the clear

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<v Speaker 1>cut coach of the year. Daron Fox's you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>Sabonis have cemented themselves. I think those guys are both

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<v Speaker 1>all NBA performers. I'm not sure what tear you want

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<v Speaker 1>to put them on, but but they've been able to

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<v Speaker 1>do to their team individually and statistically has been very impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>So Sachs offense is amazing. I got to get a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to see it often. But if I have one

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<v Speaker 1>area of concern, it's just consistency on the defensive. It Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, I don't want to by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to sound like I'm saying what the

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<v Speaker 1>Kings are doing offensively is nothing. Because if you had

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<v Speaker 1>told anyone Sacramento was at the top of any list

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<v Speaker 1>like this, it would be incredibly impressive. A year or two,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, nobody would have even believed you. So it

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<v Speaker 1>is awesome what they are doing. It is a thrill

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<v Speaker 1>to behold on offense, it just is not the same

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<v Speaker 1>game as it was ten years ago even, And I

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<v Speaker 1>just wonder if we're at this break point where it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to see when you're in the middle of it,

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<v Speaker 1>because we're still comparing things even to like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's different from when Chack and Kobe played or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, because it's relatively recent, but it's such

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<v Speaker 1>a different game. It's almost like where we just sort

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<v Speaker 1>of take all of Wilt's records and we say, well, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it played in a different era and the pace was different,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't really compare, you know, the numbers that

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<v Speaker 1>were being put up then to the numbers going on now.

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<v Speaker 1>And I sort of feel we're going to look back

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<v Speaker 1>in ten fifteen years and see this huge break from

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<v Speaker 1>just a few years ago, and it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>considered a different era even from the stuff in recent memory,

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<v Speaker 1>even from the Lebron Miami Heat days. Or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel we're going to see a pretty big distinction,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's weird to be right in the middle of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just the one thing I hope is again I

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<v Speaker 1>love the OUTFA offensive out poor. I just hope at

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<v Speaker 1>some point they allow the defense to catch up to

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<v Speaker 1>the offense. Just allow a little bit more physicality on

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<v Speaker 1>and the ability to just guard your man without foul

0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:03.480
<v Speaker 1>for breathing on him. But I mean, I love Richie.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this game continues to grow globally because people

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<v Speaker 1>want to see highlights, they want to see dunks, they

0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:10.120
<v Speaker 1>want to see threes. From having all that is fun,

0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:14.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to see, but Detroit Pistons eighty nine game,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to see Steph hit fifteen threes and guys

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<v Speaker 1>dunk and left and right. To me, that's what grows

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<v Speaker 1>the game. But at the same time, as someone who

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<v Speaker 1>played the game it has a defensive mind, I just

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<v Speaker 1>hope at some point, again I love this offensive or

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like these kids are more skilled now

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<v Speaker 1>than they've ever been. I just hope that the league

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<v Speaker 1>allows the defense to catch up. Well, I'm gonna not

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<v Speaker 1>continue this line of discussion because I think if they

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<v Speaker 1>could find you retroactively for insulting the referees. They would

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<v Speaker 1>reach back into this podcast and do that from your

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<v Speaker 1>playing career. So I'm a saviors of money, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do agree with you, and I think that I think

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<v Speaker 1>we might see a swing. I don't know, maybe at

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<v Speaker 1>some point, I don't know. I want to move on

0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:54.639
<v Speaker 1>to the New Orleans Pelicans because on December thirtieth, this

0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:56.680
<v Speaker 1>team was tied for the top spot in the West.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to remember it was only a few months ago.

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<v Speaker 1>They had depth, they had three twenty point a night scorers.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're sitting outside even at the play in and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously they've had huge injury problems since then. But as

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<v Speaker 1>we look forward on this team at this point, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to just bake injuries into the equation, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>especially where Zion is concerned. We've bent back and did

0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:19.000
<v Speaker 1>the math. There's three hundred and fifteen games the Pelicans

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<v Speaker 1>have had since he was drafted. He has only played

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<v Speaker 1>in a hundred and fourteen of them. Matt, So what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think as you look forward for the Pelicans here?

0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:30.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're a game out of the plan right now,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's only one game. Can they get in and

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<v Speaker 1>do something this season or next year? Can they try

0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:38.800
<v Speaker 1>to do more? They've got some big contracts. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think when you see this team. I

0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:44.280
<v Speaker 1>think injuries are a perfect example of why this team

0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:47.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of is where they are. And it's been as

0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:49.800
<v Speaker 1>great as Zion is when he's on the court, he's

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<v Speaker 1>just not on the court as much. He's played in

0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:55.720
<v Speaker 1>less than half the games allotted to him in his career.

0:21:56.400 --> 0:22:00.760
<v Speaker 1>When he's out there, he's incredible, he's breaking right, but

0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:02.639
<v Speaker 1>they can't get him on the court. And then you

0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:04.439
<v Speaker 1>saw it, you know, brandon Ingram, you know, had a

0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:07.359
<v Speaker 1>long time this year where he was down. CJ McCullum

0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:10.359
<v Speaker 1>has been that consistent. Obviously shout out to my guilt.

0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:12.119
<v Speaker 1>I really greed, and we're just trying to put the

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<v Speaker 1>pieces together and have your guy. But again, you know this,

0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:18.880
<v Speaker 1>the three top contracts they have are going to take

0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:21.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of cap space, so it doesn't really give

0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:25.160
<v Speaker 1>them much flexibility in the offseason. But I think they

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<v Speaker 1>just everyone in that organization praise every night that Zion

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<v Speaker 1>could be healthy because he is that kind of game changer.

0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:35.080
<v Speaker 1>He is that kind of force, and I love CJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon and Zion together healthy because I don't think there's

0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:43.080
<v Speaker 1>another trio in the league that tough. You know, Brandon

0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:45.119
<v Speaker 1>Ingram is one of my favorite young players. He's got

0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:46.680
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of KD and them. You know. CJ.

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<v Speaker 1>McCollum as a veteran who learned a lot in Portland

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<v Speaker 1>with Dame and can get you a bucket when every

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<v Speaker 1>once and then again, there's nothing Zion can't do out

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<v Speaker 1>there on the court if he's on the court, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think again everything is predicated upon their head. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that he can get healthy because you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he has so much to offer this game and

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:09.680
<v Speaker 1>so much to offer these fans. So if he's not healthy,

0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:13.919
<v Speaker 1>this is a lower Western Conference team. If he is healthy,

0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:15.480
<v Speaker 1>this is a team that Timmy is right in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the pack in the Western Conference. What's tough

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<v Speaker 1>about Zion's health too, to me is that it's such

0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:24.680
<v Speaker 1>the axis that the team rotates on. And look, as

0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:26.600
<v Speaker 1>you said, they've got plenty of other good players, but

0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:29.040
<v Speaker 1>he is the gravitational force, right. I mean, every time

0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:31.520
<v Speaker 1>he's on the court, everyone knows how important he is

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<v Speaker 1>to the squad. So when he's out and right now

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know when he's going to come back from

0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:38.840
<v Speaker 1>that hamstring injury. I would have to think, Matt, it

0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 1>affects guys mentally too. I mean, as I said, they're

0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:43.440
<v Speaker 1>only a game out of the play in. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't think Zion's coming back or you don't know

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:48.159
<v Speaker 1>when he's coming back, if you were a teammate, I

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:50.160
<v Speaker 1>would think that would affect you right that you would

0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:54.880
<v Speaker 1>just sort of been like, yeah, okay, whatever. Well, I mean, obviously,

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:56.960
<v Speaker 1>you know you need your best player. And then, with

0:23:57.000 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 1>all due respect to the other guys on the team,

0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:01.399
<v Speaker 1>he is the best player. Uh Si, Rachel gets there.

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<v Speaker 1>One us a chance to show what they got, you know,

0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:06.200
<v Speaker 1>guys that you know that they wouldn't get the minutes

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:08.879
<v Speaker 1>if he was there, have an opportunity to kind of

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:11.280
<v Speaker 1>in the organization, gets to kind of see who else

0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:13.359
<v Speaker 1>they have on that front line. Because Zion is so

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:15.399
<v Speaker 1>dominant when he's in that he takes a lot of

0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:18.800
<v Speaker 1>the you know, the the fame or the lights, so

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:23.760
<v Speaker 1>they know they go as he goes. And he has

0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:28.080
<v Speaker 1>a baby, so of course see they don't. So um,

0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:30.560
<v Speaker 1>is there a taborturn I had it been home to

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:32.679
<v Speaker 1>keep up with it, but you know, hopefully there is

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<v Speaker 1>and then and hopefully if he does come back, he's

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<v Speaker 1>able to stay on the court for the rest of

0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the season. We shall see. And I want to go

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:41.480
<v Speaker 1>east for a minute, because we haven't talked about the

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:44.159
<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Cavaliers that much. They lead the league when you

0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:46.359
<v Speaker 1>look at fewest points allowed. They have the best point

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.160
<v Speaker 1>defferent churl in the game. Are we not paying enough

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:51.200
<v Speaker 1>attention to this team, Matt? I mean they're slated to

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<v Speaker 1>play the Knicks in the first round if everything holds,

0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 1>and then the ideas whoever wins that matchup is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of considered cannon fodder, right for the number one seed

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:01.920
<v Speaker 1>likely be the Bucks. This point is that not fair

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 1>to the Cabs, And it is fair because you have

0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 1>to earn Although we see potential rachel with physical numbers

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:11.440
<v Speaker 1>on both sides of the ball. We see that. Now

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 1>we see they have Garland who is an all star

0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 1>double double guy with Jared Allen and the young boy

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:22.399
<v Speaker 1>Mobili who whose statistics are nicle if you take a

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 1>look at them, and then they have nice pieces and

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 1>they got a really solid coach, but just stronger than that.

0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:31.199
<v Speaker 1>It has been in the past. So although we may

0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:35.440
<v Speaker 1>be overlooking them, they have to earn our art to

0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 1>give them that. You know, the only way to do

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 1>that is to obviously, you know you can. I don't

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 1>see why they wouldn't be favored against the Knicks. I

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:44.240
<v Speaker 1>liked the nixt and this year, but if the playoffs

0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 1>are the start today, I would probably pick Cleveland. And

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 1>then the way you earn that respect is going against

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<v Speaker 1>the Giant in the second round and being a Giant killer.

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, can you knock off? Can you knock off?

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Joanna said, Milwaukee fully healthy. That's how you stop being overlooked.

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 1>So they could be overlooked, but you have to earn

0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:05.920
<v Speaker 1>that that that respect to not be overlooked as Gianness

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 1>did it. You know, we were look overlooking the honest

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 1>for a while. You know, he can't get to the

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 1>big game or he can't do this, he can't do that,

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:14.199
<v Speaker 1>and he's to do everything that everyone said he couldn't.

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:16.919
<v Speaker 1>That's why he's looked at up here now. So I

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 1>feel like Cleveland is kind of a second tier team.

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 1>And I said back, I think behind Milwaukee, Boston and Philadelphia,

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Cleveland is kind of a second tier team. But the

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 1>only way to get to that top tier because they

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 1>have all the pieces, is to do it in the playoffs. Yeah,

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, I just want to see that Nick's

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Cab series before we even move on to the next round,

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 1>because I'd like to see, you know, Donovan Mitchell in

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:40.720
<v Speaker 1>the garden with all the stuff for the drama that

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 1>went on over the summer. I think it's going to

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 1>be so hot. And here's a guy who I think

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:46.680
<v Speaker 1>is totally up to it, right. He's a performer. He

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:48.639
<v Speaker 1>can take that big stage and the booze of the

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:50.400
<v Speaker 1>fans and Spike Lee and all of that. I think

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:52.720
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be really, really good. So we had some

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 1>good playoff matchups brewing here. I like it. Let's set

0:26:57.560 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to get. I want to give a shout

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 1>out to Julius randall Man. He's been playing his ass off.

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I think he dropped fifty seven the other night in

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 1>a losing effort, but you know, there was he couldn't do.

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:11.400
<v Speaker 1>And I think the addition of Jelen Brunson's allowed him

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:14.159
<v Speaker 1>to show the world what kind of offensive machine he is,

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 1>and he's been playing out of his mind. So I

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:18.639
<v Speaker 1>just definitely wanted to give him a shout out. Although

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I picked if they were going to play Cleveland, I'd

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 1>probably picked Cleveland. But I just love what he's been

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 1>able to do and what that team has been able

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:25.880
<v Speaker 1>to do. And I'm excited to see, like you said,

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 1>that first round matchup. If that's what it is, it's

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>going to be fireworks. You know what I like about

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:32.920
<v Speaker 1>what Julius Randall has done this season too, is that

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 1>he really took time this past summer to take the

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 1>criticism to heart. So many players sort of just sort

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 1>of brush that stuff off or say that I'm getting

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 1>screwed or they don't understand me, or any of that stuff.

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:47.399
<v Speaker 1>And he really took Tom Thibodeau's words to heart. He

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:49.400
<v Speaker 1>took you know, some of the other people elder statesmen

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:52.199
<v Speaker 1>around him, and changed a little bit the way he

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>was approaching the game, even changing the way he approached

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 1>the offseason a little bit. And I think that really

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:00.879
<v Speaker 1>speaks to we sometimes say players, yeah, they really evolve

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 1>in their first year or their second year, even a

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:05.879
<v Speaker 1>guy who has been around a few more seasons than that.

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>The fact that he was willing to sit there and

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>say I could be better and different. I give a

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>big shout out to that too, and we're seeing the

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:14.439
<v Speaker 1>results on the court, which I like. All Right, Next up,

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<v Speaker 1>legendary moments presented by Top Shot all right from March

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth to March thirty first NBA Top Shot and NBA

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<v Speaker 1>fans are going to decide which of the sixty four

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<v Speaker 1>Top Shot debut moments is the most legendary in the

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Top Shot Debut Moment showdown. So basically, in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an nc double a tournament style bracket for

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<v Speaker 1>debut moments. So who do you think, Matt, of all

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>the greats, which player had the best debut that should

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<v Speaker 1>win this Top Shot Moment bracket? Best debut Shoot? I

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<v Speaker 1>would just probably say Jaw. I mean, Jaws a must

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<v Speaker 1>watch guy. You know, you can look at stets on

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>what he's able to do. There's so many talented players,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just think from Jaw chasing someone down and

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 1>pinning a shot to the top of the backboard to

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<v Speaker 1>dumping on an entire franchise, he's just much watched TV.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's I think I speak for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's just so excited to see him back on the

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 1>court because he just is electric. Night in night out,

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<v Speaker 1>So if I had to pick one moment or one player,

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<v Speaker 1>I would definitely pick a job. They better get this

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<v Speaker 1>tournament in now because I think next year, when Victor

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Webbenyama takes the court for the first time, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see a possibly a new contender in there. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Radar, presented by Draft Kings, let's talk about MVP Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>The race had largely been all about Nikolokitch for most

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 1>of the season, but the Nuggets have been struggling, the

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Sixers climbing up the standings, and Joelmbiid has officially taken

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 1>the number one slot. To the odds makers, here they

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>are Joel embiad is at minus two forty, Nikoliokich is

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>plus two fifty, Yannis is sitting there at plus four fifty,

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 1>and Jason Tatum is at plus ten thousands. So if

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 1>you're a Celtic fan and you want to put some

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>money on Jason can get a good return for your

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 1>investment there. Meanwhile, Janni said last week that the whole

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>thing is hard for him to navigate since there is

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 1>no agreement on what anyone is voting on, which I mean,

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 1>thank you, Matt, You've had to sit next to me

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 1>four years now talking about this. His point was, I

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:29.479
<v Speaker 1>don't even know what criteria people are voting for. What

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 1>is your main criteria, Matt when you talk about MVP,

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Let's start there, Let's start with you. I mean, it's

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 1>just unspoken rules that the voters go by, but unspoken

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>means no one else knows what the hell is going on.

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>You want to obviously want to look at where where

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>do you have your team at? You know what seed

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>are they sitting, And obviously think that's important. Your ability

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 1>to not only score but affect the game in different ways,

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 1>and I think I think in beads and ability to

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>not only score the ball from all three levels very effectively. Uh.

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>He also is a solid rebounder and a rim protector.

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>So um, you know, you can arguably say, Rachel, every

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>single season, there's two or three guys that can win

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 1>it every single year, you know, and I think Jannis

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 1>is one of the once since he's Brian, He's been

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 1>someone who could win it every single year, and that's

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 1>not to take away from Yoki. And you know, obviously

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:27.959
<v Speaker 1>some people felt that Embiade had won at least one

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>of those last two, but they've been yok So his

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 1>numbers solves his ability. He has his team sitting at

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 1>the top of the Western Conference although they've been playing

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, five hundred ball of late. That's hurt him.

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>But I just think the tear that Embiad has been

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 1>on um. I think the fact that he's been so

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>close two years in a row. It could have win

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 1>either way. Literally, I think what he's done this year,

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 1>the tear he's been on, getting hot at the right time,

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>getting his team, climbing his team up to you know,

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I think either a half game out of second or

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 1>a game out of second in the Eastern Conference is

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 1>really big. And he deserves it because I was I

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 1>was someone who thought he deserved it last year. So

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad Oddsmakers kind of see, you know, what everyone

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>else has been seeing. But but to your point, Rachel,

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>there is no criterion, and I think that's what keeps

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>not only players, but fans and possibly voters sometimes confused

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what are we really looking at? You know,

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 1>what are we really judging? Is it points per game

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 1>as it wins? Is it defensive efficiency? You know what?

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Is it impact on the team. So I don't really

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>know what the criteria is. I just know that I

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:34.720
<v Speaker 1>feel like, Wellied could possibly already have one MVP under

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 1>his belt, but should definitely get his first this year.

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 1>See that's so you're making the point that he could

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 1>have won previously, he maybe should have won previously in

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the mind of some voters and fans, and that factors

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 1>into your decision. And you're not anywhere near a loan

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 1>booge because and said basically the same thing on this

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>podcast last week. And yet that's not who had the

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 1>best stats this season, And which is why I keep

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 1>arguing we need to separate out the idea of who

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 1>has had the best statistical season from who the best

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>player is right now, who is the guy you'd least

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 1>want to face, especially since are we talking offensive stats?

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Are we talking defensive stats? And I get the nuance of, hey,

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 1>it shouldn't just be a straight one factor thing. Otherwise

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 1>we don't even need to have a vote. We could

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 1>just sort of do it robotically. But there's a difference

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>between having nuance in having an argument over MVP, and

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I like to take into account this, and every voter

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 1>likes to take into account that, and just having it

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>be totally scattershot with ten different things coming into the

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 1>equation and nobody being able to even agree on any

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>of them. So I just think we've gotten so far

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 1>away from any sort of ability to have a consensus,

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 1>and the tone of the debate has gotten so toxic,

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 1>in part because I mean, part of its Internet culture,

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 1>but part of it is because people are yelling at

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 1>each other or past each other about totally different things.

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 1>So I would, again, as I've said many times, I'd

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 1>like to see a little awards reform here and have

0:33:56.080 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the NBA join the NFL, to join the NHL, separating

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 1>out some of these awards for best overall player versus

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 1>who's had the best season. But I think we're at

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 1>that point right now where how this vote goes will

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 1>dictate possibly where people see that criteria laying because Nikoliokich

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 1>does have some superior statistical numbers in a lot of

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 1>different categories, but the feeling among a lot of people

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 1>who watch the NBA right now is Hey, if I

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 1>had to face one of them, you know, Joel Embid

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 1>is the guy I fear the most right now of

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 1>those two were honest, by the way, No, I agree

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 1>most of those guys. And I think, you know, the

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>NBA is so progressive, and I completely agree, you know,

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 1>with just the offensive MVP. I've excuse me, an offense

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 1>or you know whatever, offensive Player of the Year, you

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, and then an MVP. To me,

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:50.360
<v Speaker 1>those are two sometimes they can be tied in one.

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 1>But I think the one thing that I really like

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>that they've been talking about it late is you have

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>to play a certain amount of games. And I think

0:34:56.680 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>you and Boogy discuss last show as well. Yeah, and

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 1>I think I wonder what that five seventy games. I mean,

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 1>you think back when we played, I mean it was

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:09.839
<v Speaker 1>it was a badge of honor to play eighty two games.

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 1>You look at Michael Jordan was making his runs. He

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>was playing eighty two plus an in Defensive Player of

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:18.440
<v Speaker 1>the Year finals MVP. Like, obviously the game has changing

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to compare errors, but to win

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:23.359
<v Speaker 1>such a big award, I think you definitely should have

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 1>to play or to win any award. I feel like

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 1>you should have to play a certain amount of games

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.320
<v Speaker 1>because there are guys out there that are pushing themselves

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 1>to try to get to every single game, to play

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 1>every single game. So I definitely like where that's at.

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I just wonder what that magical number will be, if

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 1>that's something that's implemented. But here's my cynical take on that,

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 1>whatever that magical number is is going to be a

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 1>negotiation between the players Association and the league, and I could,

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:49.920
<v Speaker 1>pretty much as I sit here guarantee you that that

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 1>number will not be as high as a lot of

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:54.359
<v Speaker 1>fans will want. So let's say that number ends up

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 1>being sixty sixty five. I mean, is that really going

0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:59.319
<v Speaker 1>to do anything for load management or is that going

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>to really do any thing for what you were talking

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:03.480
<v Speaker 1>about of that badge of honor and kind of, you know,

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 1>spurring guys to play a little bit more. I don't

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 1>think we're going to see a negotiated number between those

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 1>two sides end up in the seventies, do you. I mean,

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I hope the lowest that can go with sixty five?

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>You know you think seventy I mean that's missing twelve

0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:21.280
<v Speaker 1>games and that's kind of that's a one sprained ankle

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>and maybe a sore knee, a couple sore knees, and

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:27.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, a season, but sixty five seventeen games that

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 1>you can miss, but you think that you can put

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>it to sixty. I mean you can miss twenty two

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>games and still win. So whatever it is, I'm glad

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to make the decision. But I hope

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:38.759
<v Speaker 1>they said it and stick to it, and hope you

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 1>that'll raise the play guys to want to be out

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 1>there every single night. We shall see. Let's go to

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Chicago for our closing thoughts. Here to start off, Lonzo

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Ball just had a third surgery on his injured knee

0:36:53.200 --> 0:36:56.760
<v Speaker 1>and this was a cartilage transplant math that sounds darly.

0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>It is a relatively new surgery as opposed to a

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:03.280
<v Speaker 1>full need replacement, so we've never had an NBA player

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 1>undergo this and return. Honestly, it doesn't sound like even

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 1>his doctors are comfortable saying for sure what his prognosis is.

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:12.839
<v Speaker 1>They just keep saying this is his quote best hope. So, Matt,

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:15.880
<v Speaker 1>what do you think, because because it's not just this surgery,

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 1>Lonzo Ball has had a lot of injury issues his

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:20.959
<v Speaker 1>whole career. What is your gut telling you about whether

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>we see Lonzo Ball back on an NBA court again.

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 1>I want to say, my gut is going to tell

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 1>me that it's gonna work. Um. I wanted to work

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 1>as a fan of his, and you know, obviously Edison

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 1>has come so far, Rachel, Remember an acl used to

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:35.319
<v Speaker 1>be a career ender and a chill. He's definitely used

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>to be a career ender. And then you look at

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 1>guys like Clayton back from both you know, Kevin back

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:44.400
<v Speaker 1>from that belief. Yeah, I want to have that belief

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 1>that you know, medical is as at an all time high.

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 1>But I just I feel bad for him from a

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:54.480
<v Speaker 1>standpoint of he's a good kid and it's been a

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:56.800
<v Speaker 1>rough ride since he's stepped in this, you know, partly

0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>add partly because he hasn't had an opportunity to play.

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 1>But when he's healthy, Rachel, he's one of the best

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:05.439
<v Speaker 1>court vision guys in the game, and he's someone who

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:07.839
<v Speaker 1>is old school. From a standpoint, he'll pick you up

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:10.480
<v Speaker 1>ninety four feet and maybe you work and take the

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 1>ball from you. If he is such an important I

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:15.759
<v Speaker 1>think his brother's kind of come in and taking that

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 1>flare of obviously the ability to put the ball in

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the basket, but Alonzo was someone who could put the

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 1>ball in the basket, make plays for his team and

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:25.320
<v Speaker 1>make his teammates better. But then I also really locked

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:27.719
<v Speaker 1>in on the defensive end, like he was picking when

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 1>he was with you know, picking up ninety four feet.

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I love stuff like that. So I just pray that

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is a vision to give him a

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 1>chance to get back out there. I hope the medicine

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:38.839
<v Speaker 1>is you know, again like you said, at an all

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 1>time high, it always continues to but it just sounds scared.

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:44.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, you said, you know, cartilage instead of a

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 1>knee replacement. To think someone that his age needs a

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 1>whole knee ropsman is is just exactly scarity here. So

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:53.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, Croston and praying for him and his family

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 1>for his health because he has tremendous talent. Yeah, I

0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>mean it's it's he's as you said, this whole career

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 1>and it's been all the crazy hoopla with his dad

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 1>starting out and kind of the attention that's been on him.

0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 1>He sold it through a lot and I think a

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of people around the NBA are hoping this works. Finally,

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe we will find out. Let's skip over to Washington, DC,

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:18.279
<v Speaker 1>my hometown. Magic Johnson looking to extend his team ownership

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>portfolio by joining Josh Harris's bid to buy the Washington Commanders. Now. Magic,

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:26.320
<v Speaker 1>as we know, currently owns the pieces of the Dodgers,

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:29.399
<v Speaker 1>the Sparks, the LAFC. Harris, of course has a big

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 1>stake in the Sixers. Now Matt Magic would obviously not

0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 1>be the majority owner in this situation. But I'm just

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 1>curious for your take. Do you think if this group

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 1>is able to pull off the sale, do you think

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 1>he would have a real voice in the NFL, a

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>league that has struggled sometimes with social issues, how players

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:48.680
<v Speaker 1>are treated overall. Or do you think because he's not

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 1>going to be like the voice, the guy in the

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>chair at those league ownership meetings, he won't really be

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 1>able to have that impact. I mean, his name is

0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Magic for a reason. You know, whether he's a minority

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:03.200
<v Speaker 1>owner or you know, whatever bounds a way, he finds

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 1>a way to have his voice heard and it should

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:09.440
<v Speaker 1>be heard. Question to you, since you know that's your city,

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:11.920
<v Speaker 1>what is your thought on I mean management and you

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:15.120
<v Speaker 1>know ownership, there's always been issues with Snyder and management there.

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 1>They're able to put you know, similar to it with

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:19.239
<v Speaker 1>the Knicks have beenable that they've been able to put

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 1>good talent together, but you know, it always starts at

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:23.840
<v Speaker 1>the top with that team. So, as someone who is

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 1>a hometown girl there, what is your thought on the

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 1>possibilities of someone like Magic and knowing what he brings

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 1>to our game, have an opportunity to possibly bring that

0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:36.319
<v Speaker 1>to your team in the NFL. I mean, look, Dan

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Snyder cannot sell that team fast enough for me. I mean,

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:40.960
<v Speaker 1>as far as I'm concerned, he could sell it to

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 1>like the guy on the corner selling newspapers and I

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>would be like, awesome, great new team owner, fantastic. So

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Magic Johnson of all people, and Josh Harris by the way,

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:52.880
<v Speaker 1>who's done great things with the Sixers in conjunction with

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Michael Rubin and their partnership group up there. But um,

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, it seems like a good group to me

0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:00.080
<v Speaker 1>in terms of all these guys track record, and I

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 1>would love to see Magic Johnson's voice in the NFL.

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:06.239
<v Speaker 1>I think that you're Great's your great point. His name

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:08.760
<v Speaker 1>is Magic, and I think that even if he doesn't

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:10.839
<v Speaker 1>have an official seat at some of those tables, because

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't be the majority owner, his word carries so

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 1>much weight and that he would get quoted in the newspapers.

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he doesn't need to be the majority stakeholder

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 1>to have a majority style voice. And I think, frankly,

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 1>the NFL could use Magic Johnson. So um, I am

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 1>hopeful that among the many different interesting groups, one of

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 1>them goes through soon and that team can get a

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 1>fresh start because it has been miserable for a long

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:37.879
<v Speaker 1>time in that city. That is the team that made

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 1>me fall in love with sports. They won three Super

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Bowls during the span of my childhood and college and stuff,

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 1>and I just I it has been hard to watch

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 1>and all the stuff, the allegations and the proven proven

0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 1>things that went on in that front office there, and

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 1>just the degradation of women that has gone on there

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 1>has just been It's been just stomach churning. And so

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I would like, I want to buy the team, and uh,

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I hope that Magic Johnson gets to be one of

0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 1>those subones. That's all I would say. So that's I

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:07.839
<v Speaker 1>have some strong feelings. Can you tell Matt, I don't

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 1>know is that coming across it. Luck to you and

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 1>those Commander fans. I would love to see you. Magic

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:19.440
<v Speaker 1>is the voice for our people. We obviously know that

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:22.680
<v Speaker 1>that not just our people, but we also know you

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:25.839
<v Speaker 1>know that the NFL needs some help with just diversity

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 1>and the way they look at things. And like he said,

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<v Speaker 1>although he may not have the biggest seat at the table,

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<v Speaker 1>he definitely has the biggest platform. Bigger platform than Jerry Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>bigger platform than any owner in the NFL. So what Magic.

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<v Speaker 1>When Magic speaks, it's heard. So I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>see someone who I grew up idolizing on the basketball court,

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<v Speaker 1>who's become a business juggernaut, have the ability to cross

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<v Speaker 1>over into the NFL and have a little piece of

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<v Speaker 1>that as well. It's interesting that Magic is talking about

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<v Speaker 1>expanding that presidence in a place like the NFL because

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<v Speaker 1>we've also got news this past week that Michael Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>is exploring selling his stake in the Charlotte Hornets. Mj

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<v Speaker 1>not only the most famous team owner in all of

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<v Speaker 1>professional sports, he is the only black majority owner in

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA. He's actually on a lot of committees within

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<v Speaker 1>the Board of Governors, so it's not symbolic. He has

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of say in a lot of places, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think the impact is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>if he does so? Just another good business move. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I saw the evaluation. I think they're up to

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<v Speaker 1>what one point seven billion, and they were in the

0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:30.759
<v Speaker 1>three hundred millions when he took the team over. So

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<v Speaker 1>another solid because Michael Jordan needs money right right, because

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<v Speaker 1>some people have critiqued his managements, owner skip whatever. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, I mean, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>the only black majority owner in the game, a former

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<v Speaker 1>player who's done so much for the game. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he just kind of free will to do what he wants.

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<v Speaker 1>It always seems like somehow he always ends up doing

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<v Speaker 1>something with some good money. This is no difference, so

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be interesting to see. Obviously, Charlotte is just a

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<v Speaker 1>tough place to build something, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So whether it's him or somebody else, it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>tough build build. But you know, I'm always going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a fan of MJ So best of luck to them. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, it's it's tough. The fan base has

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<v Speaker 1>gotten a bit defeated. Two tickets to Monday Night's game

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<v Speaker 1>against the Indiana Pacers. Matt, We're listed on a ticket

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<v Speaker 1>resale website for one dollar each. Of course, they were

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<v Speaker 1>actually fourteen dollars with fees and taxes, because that's our

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<v Speaker 1>ticketing apps work. But a single upper level seat was

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<v Speaker 1>going for three bucks. They do have their work cut

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<v Speaker 1>out for them. We'll see, maybe a new ownership, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a shake up will happen, although I think who

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<v Speaker 1>he's trying to sell it to is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>current other owners in the Atlanta Hawks, minority owner. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we will keep an eye on mat as well as

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<v Speaker 1>along with everything else in the league. Matt, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining me today, even though you were

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<v Speaker 1>brewing and I'm mad at all Bruins right now. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna I'm gonna try to get over that in the

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