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Speaker 1: Welcome into what's burning. I'm here with Matt Barnes. And

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Speaker 1: Matt my plan today was to come in and not

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Speaker 1: speak to you because UCLA beat Northwestern in the NCAA

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Speaker 1: tournament over the weekend. But it's only the two of us,

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Speaker 1: so that plan actually seems kind of shoddy. I'm still

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Speaker 1: very sad though, Rachel. I mean, you guys had a

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Speaker 1: had hope in that second half. Your voice came out

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Speaker 1: tight in the first half, and then we dug our away.

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Speaker 1: We caught our way back and it wasn't enough, which

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Speaker 1: is kind of the story of my life as a

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Speaker 1: fan of Northwestern sports teams. But you know, we got

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Speaker 1: for your guys. I mean, Gonzaga, you know we've had

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Speaker 1: a you know, I can call it a rivalry, but

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Speaker 1: we faced each other enough, and you know, they knocked

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Speaker 1: So obviously health is going to be a big part

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Speaker 1: forward to all Right, we'll see what happens. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about MBA in the meantime. John Morant, my friend, is

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Speaker 1: expected to play in the Grizzlies game against the Rockets

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday night. He was actually eligible to play on

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Speaker 1: a really nice standing ovation though from the crowdy at

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Speaker 1: a nice moment with Kyrie Irving after the game. Matt,

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Speaker 1: what do you expect going forward with job? Because Jaren

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Speaker 1: Jackson Junior told The Athletic the jaw is quote about

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Speaker 1: I believe the league should be on notice now. I

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Speaker 1: think he obviously had a lapse of judgment. Again, I

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Speaker 1: because there a few people can speak to what it's

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Speaker 1: So I think he had to come back down to

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Speaker 1: You think about it, it was, you know, a two

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Speaker 1: I think he will. I mean, this kid did not

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Speaker 1: much of his game is based on confidence, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm a little disappointed, but I also understand the bigger picture.

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Speaker 1: You know, this team very talented and have aspirations of

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Speaker 1: reach back into this podcast and do that from your

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Speaker 1: playing career. So I'm a saviors of money, but I

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Speaker 1: we might see a swing. I don't know, maybe at

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Speaker 1: to the New Orleans Pelicans because on December thirtieth, this

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Speaker 1: team was tied for the top spot in the West.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to remember it was only a few months ago.

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Speaker 1: They had depth, they had three twenty point a night scorers.

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Speaker 1: obviously they've had huge injury problems since then. But as

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Speaker 1: got to just bake injuries into the equation, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: especially where Zion is concerned. We've bent back and did

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Speaker 1: have had since he was drafted. He has only played

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Speaker 1: in a hundred and fourteen of them. Matt, So what

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're a game out of the plan right now,

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Speaker 1: so it's only one game. Can they get in and

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Speaker 1: do something this season or next year? Can they try

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Speaker 1: to do more? They've got some big contracts. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: what do you think when you see this team. I

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Speaker 1: kind of is where they are. And it's been as

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Speaker 1: great as Zion is when he's on the court, he's

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Speaker 1: just not on the court as much. He's played in

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Speaker 1: less than half the games allotted to him in his career.

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Speaker 1: When he's out there, he's incredible, he's breaking right, but

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Speaker 1: they can't get him on the court. And then you

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Speaker 1: long time this year where he was down. CJ McCullum

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Speaker 1: has been that consistent. Obviously shout out to my guilt.

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Speaker 1: I really greed, and we're just trying to put the

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Speaker 1: pieces together and have your guy. But again, you know this,

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Speaker 1: the three top contracts they have are going to take

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Speaker 1: a lot of cap space, so it doesn't really give

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Speaker 1: them much flexibility in the offseason. But I think they

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Speaker 1: just everyone in that organization praise every night that Zion

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Speaker 1: could be healthy because he is that kind of game changer.

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Speaker 1: He is that kind of force, and I love CJ.

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Speaker 1: Brandon and Zion together healthy because I don't think there's

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Speaker 1: another trio in the league that tough. You know, Brandon

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Speaker 1: a little bit of KD and them. You know. CJ.

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Speaker 1: McCollum as a veteran who learned a lot in Portland

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Speaker 1: with Dame and can get you a bucket when every

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Speaker 1: once and then again, there's nothing Zion can't do out

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Speaker 1: I think again everything is predicated upon their head. I

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Speaker 1: so much to offer these fans. So if he's not healthy,

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Speaker 1: middle of the pack in the Western Conference. What's tough

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Speaker 1: about Zion's health too, to me is that it's such

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Speaker 1: the axis that the team rotates on. And look, as

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Speaker 1: he is the gravitational force, right. I mean, every time

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Speaker 1: he's on the court, everyone knows how important he is

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Speaker 1: to the squad. So when he's out and right now

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Speaker 1: we don't know when he's going to come back from

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Speaker 1: that hamstring injury. I would have to think, Matt, it

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Speaker 1: affects guys mentally too. I mean, as I said, they're

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Speaker 1: you don't think Zion's coming back or you don't know

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Speaker 1: when he's coming back, if you were a teammate, I

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Speaker 1: just sort of been like, yeah, okay, whatever. Well, I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know you need your best player. And then, with

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Speaker 1: One us a chance to show what they got, you know,

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Speaker 1: dominant when he's in that he takes a lot of

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Speaker 1: the you know, the the fame or the lights, so

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Speaker 1: they know they go as he goes. And he has

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Speaker 1: the season. We shall see. And I want to go

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Cavaliers that much. They lead the league when you

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Speaker 1: look at fewest points allowed. They have the best point

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Speaker 1: defferent churl in the game. Are we not paying enough

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Speaker 1: look at them, and then they have nice pieces and

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Speaker 1: they got a really solid coach, but just stronger than that.

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Speaker 1: It has been in the past. So although we may

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Speaker 1: see why they wouldn't be favored against the Knicks. I

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Speaker 1: liked the nixt and this year, but if the playoffs

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Speaker 1: then the way you earn that respect is going against

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Speaker 1: the Giant in the second round and being a Giant killer.

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Speaker 1: You know, can you knock off? Can you knock off?

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Speaker 1: Joanna said, Milwaukee fully healthy. That's how you stop being overlooked.

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Speaker 1: So they could be overlooked, but you have to earn

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Speaker 1: big game or he can't do this, he can't do that,

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Speaker 1: and he's to do everything that everyone said he couldn't.

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Speaker 1: That's why he's looked at up here now. So I

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Speaker 1: feel like Cleveland is kind of a second tier team.

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Speaker 1: And I said back, I think behind Milwaukee, Boston and Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: Cleveland is kind of a second tier team. But the

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Speaker 1: only way to get to that top tier because they

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Speaker 1: have all the pieces, is to do it in the playoffs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I just want to see that Nick's

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Speaker 1: Cab series before we even move on to the next round,

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Speaker 1: because I'd like to see, you know, Donovan Mitchell in

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Speaker 1: went on over the summer. I think it's going to

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Speaker 1: be so hot. And here's a guy who I think

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Speaker 1: can take that big stage and the booze of the

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be really, really good. So we had some

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Speaker 1: good playoff matchups brewing here. I like it. Let's set

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Speaker 1: I want to get. I want to give a shout

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Speaker 1: out to Julius randall Man. He's been playing his ass off.

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Speaker 1: I think he dropped fifty seven the other night in

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Speaker 1: a losing effort, but you know, there was he couldn't do.

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Speaker 1: And I think the addition of Jelen Brunson's allowed him

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Speaker 1: and he's been playing out of his mind. So I

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Speaker 1: just definitely wanted to give him a shout out. Although

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Speaker 1: I picked if they were going to play Cleveland, I'd

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Speaker 1: probably picked Cleveland. But I just love what he's been

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Speaker 1: able to do and what that team has been able

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Speaker 1: to do. And I'm excited to see, like you said,

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Speaker 1: that first round matchup. If that's what it is, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be fireworks. You know what I like about

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Speaker 1: what Julius Randall has done this season too, is that

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Speaker 1: he really took time this past summer to take the

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Speaker 1: And he really took Tom Thibodeau's words to heart. He

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Speaker 1: was approaching the game, even changing the way he approached

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Speaker 1: speaks to we sometimes say players, yeah, they really evolve

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Speaker 1: The fact that he was willing to sit there and

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Speaker 1: The race had largely been all about Nikolokitch for most

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Speaker 1: you're a Celtic fan and you want to put some

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Speaker 1: money on Jason can get a good return for your

642
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: investment there. Meanwhile, Janni said last week that the whole

643
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Speaker 1: thing is hard for him to navigate since there is

644
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Speaker 1: no agreement on what anyone is voting on, which I mean,

645
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Speaker 1: thank you, Matt, You've had to sit next to me

646
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: four years now talking about this. His point was, I

647
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 1: don't even know what criteria people are voting for. What

648
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: is your main criteria, Matt when you talk about MVP,

649
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Speaker 1: Let's start there, Let's start with you. I mean, it's

650
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: just unspoken rules that the voters go by, but unspoken

651
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: means no one else knows what the hell is going on.

652
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: You want to obviously want to look at where where

653
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: do you have your team at? You know what seed

654
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: are they sitting, And obviously think that's important. Your ability

655
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: to not only score but affect the game in different ways,

656
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Speaker 1: and I think I think in beads and ability to

657
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: not only score the ball from all three levels very effectively. Uh.

658
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: He also is a solid rebounder and a rim protector.

659
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: So um, you know, you can arguably say, Rachel, every

660
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: single season, there's two or three guys that can win

661
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: it every single year, you know, and I think Jannis

662
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: is one of the once since he's Brian, He's been

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00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: someone who could win it every single year, and that's

664
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Speaker 1: not to take away from Yoki. And you know, obviously

665
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Speaker 1: some people felt that Embiade had won at least one

666
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: of those last two, but they've been yok So his

667
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: numbers solves his ability. He has his team sitting at

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Speaker 1: the top of the Western Conference although they've been playing

669
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Speaker 1: you know, five hundred ball of late. That's hurt him.

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Speaker 1: But I just think the tear that Embiad has been

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Speaker 1: on um. I think the fact that he's been so

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Speaker 1: close two years in a row. It could have win

673
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: either way. Literally, I think what he's done this year,

674
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: the tear he's been on, getting hot at the right time,

675
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: getting his team, climbing his team up to you know,

676
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: I think either a half game out of second or

677
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: a game out of second in the Eastern Conference is

678
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Speaker 1: really big. And he deserves it because I was I

679
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: was someone who thought he deserved it last year. So

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Speaker 1: I'm glad Oddsmakers kind of see, you know, what everyone

681
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: else has been seeing. But but to your point, Rachel,

682
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Speaker 1: there is no criterion, and I think that's what keeps

683
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: not only players, but fans and possibly voters sometimes confused

684
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are we really looking at? You know,

685
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: what are we really judging? Is it points per game

686
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: as it wins? Is it defensive efficiency? You know what?

687
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: Is it impact on the team. So I don't really

688
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: know what the criteria is. I just know that I

689
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: feel like, Wellied could possibly already have one MVP under

690
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: his belt, but should definitely get his first this year.

691
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: See that's so you're making the point that he could

692
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Speaker 1: have won previously, he maybe should have won previously in

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Speaker 1: the mind of some voters and fans, and that factors

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Speaker 1: into your decision. And you're not anywhere near a loan

695
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Speaker 1: booge because and said basically the same thing on this

696
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Speaker 1: podcast last week. And yet that's not who had the

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Speaker 1: best stats this season, And which is why I keep

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Speaker 1: arguing we need to separate out the idea of who

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Speaker 1: has had the best statistical season from who the best

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Speaker 1: player is right now, who is the guy you'd least

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Speaker 1: want to face, especially since are we talking offensive stats?

702
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: Are we talking defensive stats? And I get the nuance of, hey,

703
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: it shouldn't just be a straight one factor thing. Otherwise

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Speaker 1: we don't even need to have a vote. We could

705
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: just sort of do it robotically. But there's a difference

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Speaker 1: between having nuance in having an argument over MVP, and

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Speaker 1: I like to take into account this, and every voter

708
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Speaker 1: likes to take into account that, and just having it

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Speaker 1: be totally scattershot with ten different things coming into the

710
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Speaker 1: equation and nobody being able to even agree on any

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Speaker 1: of them. So I just think we've gotten so far

712
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Speaker 1: away from any sort of ability to have a consensus,

713
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Speaker 1: and the tone of the debate has gotten so toxic,

714
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Speaker 1: in part because I mean, part of its Internet culture,

715
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: but part of it is because people are yelling at

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Speaker 1: each other or past each other about totally different things.

717
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Speaker 1: So I would, again, as I've said many times, I'd

718
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Speaker 1: like to see a little awards reform here and have

719
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Speaker 1: the NBA join the NFL, to join the NHL, separating

720
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Speaker 1: out some of these awards for best overall player versus

721
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: who's had the best season. But I think we're at

722
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Speaker 1: that point right now where how this vote goes will

723
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Speaker 1: dictate possibly where people see that criteria laying because Nikoliokich

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Speaker 1: does have some superior statistical numbers in a lot of

725
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: different categories, but the feeling among a lot of people

726
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: who watch the NBA right now is Hey, if I

727
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: had to face one of them, you know, Joel Embid

728
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: is the guy I fear the most right now of

729
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: those two were honest, by the way, No, I agree

730
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Speaker 1: most of those guys. And I think, you know, the

731
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: NBA is so progressive, and I completely agree, you know,

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Speaker 1: with just the offensive MVP. I've excuse me, an offense

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Speaker 1: or you know whatever, offensive Player of the Year, you

734
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and then an MVP. To me,

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00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: those are two sometimes they can be tied in one.

736
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Speaker 1: But I think the one thing that I really like

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00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: that they've been talking about it late is you have

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Speaker 1: to play a certain amount of games. And I think

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00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: you and Boogy discuss last show as well. Yeah, and

740
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: I think I wonder what that five seventy games. I mean,

741
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: you think back when we played, I mean it was

742
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: it was a badge of honor to play eighty two games.

743
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: You look at Michael Jordan was making his runs. He

744
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: was playing eighty two plus an in Defensive Player of

745
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: the Year finals MVP. Like, obviously the game has changing

746
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: and I don't want to compare errors, but to win

747
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: such a big award, I think you definitely should have

748
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: to play or to win any award. I feel like

749
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Speaker 1: you should have to play a certain amount of games

750
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: because there are guys out there that are pushing themselves

751
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: to try to get to every single game, to play

752
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: every single game. So I definitely like where that's at.

753
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: I just wonder what that magical number will be, if

754
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: that's something that's implemented. But here's my cynical take on that,

755
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: whatever that magical number is is going to be a

756
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: negotiation between the players Association and the league, and I could,

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00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: pretty much as I sit here guarantee you that that

758
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: number will not be as high as a lot of

759
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: fans will want. So let's say that number ends up

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Speaker 1: being sixty sixty five. I mean, is that really going

761
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: to do anything for load management or is that going

762
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: to really do any thing for what you were talking

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Speaker 1: about of that badge of honor and kind of, you know,

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00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: spurring guys to play a little bit more. I don't

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00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: think we're going to see a negotiated number between those

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00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: two sides end up in the seventies, do you. I mean,

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00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: I hope the lowest that can go with sixty five?

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00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: You know you think seventy I mean that's missing twelve

769
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 1: games and that's kind of that's a one sprained ankle

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00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: and maybe a sore knee, a couple sore knees, and

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00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: you know, a season, but sixty five seventeen games that

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00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: you can miss, but you think that you can put

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Speaker 1: it to sixty. I mean you can miss twenty two

774
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: games and still win. So whatever it is, I'm glad

775
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't have to make the decision. But I hope

776
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: they said it and stick to it, and hope you

777
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: that'll raise the play guys to want to be out

778
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: there every single night. We shall see. Let's go to

779
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Speaker 1: Chicago for our closing thoughts. Here to start off, Lonzo

780
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: Ball just had a third surgery on his injured knee

781
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 1: and this was a cartilage transplant math that sounds darly.

782
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: It is a relatively new surgery as opposed to a

783
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 1: full need replacement, so we've never had an NBA player

784
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: undergo this and return. Honestly, it doesn't sound like even

785
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: his doctors are comfortable saying for sure what his prognosis is.

786
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: They just keep saying this is his quote best hope. So, Matt,

787
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: what do you think, because because it's not just this surgery,

788
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: Lonzo Ball has had a lot of injury issues his

789
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,959
Speaker 1: whole career. What is your gut telling you about whether

790
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: we see Lonzo Ball back on an NBA court again.

791
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: I want to say, my gut is going to tell

792
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: me that it's gonna work. Um. I wanted to work

793
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: as a fan of his, and you know, obviously Edison

794
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: has come so far, Rachel, Remember an acl used to

795
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: be a career ender and a chill. He's definitely used

796
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: to be a career ender. And then you look at

797
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: guys like Clayton back from both you know, Kevin back

798
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: from that belief. Yeah, I want to have that belief

799
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: that you know, medical is as at an all time high.

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00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: But I just I feel bad for him from a

801
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: standpoint of he's a good kid and it's been a

802
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: rough ride since he's stepped in this, you know, partly

803
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: add partly because he hasn't had an opportunity to play.

804
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: But when he's healthy, Rachel, he's one of the best

805
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: court vision guys in the game, and he's someone who

806
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: is old school. From a standpoint, he'll pick you up

807
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: ninety four feet and maybe you work and take the

808
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: ball from you. If he is such an important I

809
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: think his brother's kind of come in and taking that

810
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: flare of obviously the ability to put the ball in

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00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: the basket, but Alonzo was someone who could put the

812
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: ball in the basket, make plays for his team and

813
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: make his teammates better. But then I also really locked

814
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: in on the defensive end, like he was picking when

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00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: he was with you know, picking up ninety four feet.

816
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: I love stuff like that. So I just pray that

817
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: you know, this is a vision to give him a

818
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: chance to get back out there. I hope the medicine

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00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: is you know, again like you said, at an all

820
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: time high, it always continues to but it just sounds scared.

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00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: You know, you said, you know, cartilage instead of a

822
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: knee replacement. To think someone that his age needs a

823
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: whole knee ropsman is is just exactly scarity here. So

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00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, Croston and praying for him and his family

825
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: for his health because he has tremendous talent. Yeah, I

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00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: mean it's it's he's as you said, this whole career

827
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: and it's been all the crazy hoopla with his dad

828
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: starting out and kind of the attention that's been on him.

829
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: He sold it through a lot and I think a

830
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: lot of people around the NBA are hoping this works. Finally,

831
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: maybe we will find out. Let's skip over to Washington, DC,

832
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: my hometown. Magic Johnson looking to extend his team ownership

833
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: portfolio by joining Josh Harris's bid to buy the Washington Commanders. Now. Magic,

834
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: as we know, currently owns the pieces of the Dodgers,

835
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: the Sparks, the LAFC. Harris, of course has a big

836
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: stake in the Sixers. Now Matt Magic would obviously not

837
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: be the majority owner in this situation. But I'm just

838
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: curious for your take. Do you think if this group

839
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: is able to pull off the sale, do you think

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00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: he would have a real voice in the NFL, a

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00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: league that has struggled sometimes with social issues, how players

842
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: are treated overall. Or do you think because he's not

843
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: going to be like the voice, the guy in the

844
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: chair at those league ownership meetings, he won't really be

845
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: able to have that impact. I mean, his name is

846
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: Magic for a reason. You know, whether he's a minority

847
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: owner or you know, whatever bounds a way, he finds

848
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: a way to have his voice heard and it should

849
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: be heard. Question to you, since you know that's your city,

850
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: what is your thought on I mean management and you

851
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: know ownership, there's always been issues with Snyder and management there.

852
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: They're able to put you know, similar to it with

853
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: the Knicks have beenable that they've been able to put

854
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Speaker 1: good talent together, but you know, it always starts at

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Speaker 1: the top with that team. So, as someone who is

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Speaker 1: a hometown girl there, what is your thought on the

857
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Speaker 1: possibilities of someone like Magic and knowing what he brings

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Speaker 1: to our game, have an opportunity to possibly bring that

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00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: to your team in the NFL. I mean, look, Dan

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00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: Snyder cannot sell that team fast enough for me. I mean,

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00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, he could sell it to

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Speaker 1: like the guy on the corner selling newspapers and I

863
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: would be like, awesome, great new team owner, fantastic. So

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Speaker 1: Magic Johnson of all people, and Josh Harris by the way,

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Speaker 1: who's done great things with the Sixers in conjunction with

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Speaker 1: Michael Rubin and their partnership group up there. But um,

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Speaker 1: you know, it seems like a good group to me

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00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: in terms of all these guys track record, and I

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Speaker 1: would love to see Magic Johnson's voice in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I think that you're Great's your great point. His name

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00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 1: is Magic, and I think that even if he doesn't

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00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: have an official seat at some of those tables, because

873
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be the majority owner, his word carries so

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00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: much weight and that he would get quoted in the newspapers.

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00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't need to be the majority stakeholder

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00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: to have a majority style voice. And I think, frankly,

877
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: the NFL could use Magic Johnson. So um, I am

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00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: hopeful that among the many different interesting groups, one of

879
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: them goes through soon and that team can get a

880
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: fresh start because it has been miserable for a long

881
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: time in that city. That is the team that made

882
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: me fall in love with sports. They won three Super

883
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: Bowls during the span of my childhood and college and stuff,

884
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: and I just I it has been hard to watch

885
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: and all the stuff, the allegations and the proven proven

886
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: things that went on in that front office there, and

887
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: just the degradation of women that has gone on there

888
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: has just been It's been just stomach churning. And so

889
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: I would like, I want to buy the team, and uh,

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00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: I hope that Magic Johnson gets to be one of

891
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: those subones. That's all I would say. So that's I

892
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: have some strong feelings. Can you tell Matt, I don't

893
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: know is that coming across it. Luck to you and

894
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: those Commander fans. I would love to see you. Magic

895
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: is the voice for our people. We obviously know that

896
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: that not just our people, but we also know you

897
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: know that the NFL needs some help with just diversity

898
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: and the way they look at things. And like he said,

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00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: although he may not have the biggest seat at the table,

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00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: he definitely has the biggest platform. Bigger platform than Jerry Jones,

901
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,959
Speaker 1: bigger platform than any owner in the NFL. So what Magic.

902
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: When Magic speaks, it's heard. So I would love to

903
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: see someone who I grew up idolizing on the basketball court,

904
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: who's become a business juggernaut, have the ability to cross

905
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: over into the NFL and have a little piece of

906
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 1: that as well. It's interesting that Magic is talking about

907
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: expanding that presidence in a place like the NFL because

908
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: we've also got news this past week that Michael Jordan

909
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: is exploring selling his stake in the Charlotte Hornets. Mj

910
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: not only the most famous team owner in all of

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00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: professional sports, he is the only black majority owner in

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00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: the NBA. He's actually on a lot of committees within

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00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: the Board of Governors, so it's not symbolic. He has

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00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: a lot of say in a lot of places, Matt,

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00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: what do you think the impact is going to be

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00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: if he does so? Just another good business move. I

917
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: mean I saw the evaluation. I think they're up to

918
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: what one point seven billion, and they were in the

919
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: three hundred millions when he took the team over. So

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00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: another solid because Michael Jordan needs money right right, because

921
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: some people have critiqued his managements, owner skip whatever. But

922
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I mean, like you said,

923
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: the only black majority owner in the game, a former

924
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: player who's done so much for the game. I mean,

925
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: he just kind of free will to do what he wants.

926
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: It always seems like somehow he always ends up doing

927
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: something with some good money. This is no difference, so

928
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see. Obviously, Charlotte is just a

929
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: tough place to build something, you know what I mean.

930
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: So whether it's him or somebody else, it's just a

931
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: tough build build. But you know, I'm always going to

932
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: be a fan of MJ So best of luck to them. Well,

933
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: as you say, it's it's tough. The fan base has

934
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: gotten a bit defeated. Two tickets to Monday Night's game

935
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: against the Indiana Pacers. Matt, We're listed on a ticket

936
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: resale website for one dollar each. Of course, they were

937
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 1: actually fourteen dollars with fees and taxes, because that's our

938
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: ticketing apps work. But a single upper level seat was

939
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: going for three bucks. They do have their work cut

940
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: out for them. We'll see, maybe a new ownership, maybe

941
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: maybe a shake up will happen, although I think who

942
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: he's trying to sell it to is one of the

943
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: current other owners in the Atlanta Hawks, minority owner. Anyway,

944
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: we will keep an eye on mat as well as

945
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: along with everything else in the league. Matt, thank you

946
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: so much for joining me today, even though you were

947
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: brewing and I'm mad at all Bruins right now. I'm

948
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna try to get over that in the

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Speaker 1: next couple of days. What Burn and Folks is available

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Speaker 1: every week on Showtime Basketball, you Tube, on Twitter, Instagram,

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