1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: All right, folks, I want you to give a big 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: hearty welcome to our newest comedian brand new to the scene. 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Please give it up for Millie to Jericho. Hey, hey, everybody, 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: uh this my name is Millie. This is actually my 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: very first open mic, if you can believe it, my 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: my very first time on stage. Everyone. You guys are 7 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: a great crowd. I can already tell you're a great crowd. 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: I so a little bit about me if you want 9 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: to know. I work, uh in entertainment, and I host 10 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: a film podcast with this guy named Casey. And I 11 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: gotta say, like, this guy, Casey is a real trip, Okay. 12 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, he's from Minnesota. I mean, 13 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: who is from Minnesota? What are you, like, Rose Nyland 14 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: from The Golden Girls? Are you, you know, out there 15 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: hanging out with your sheep in you know, a bunch 16 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: a land with a bunch of Swedish people and shit 17 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: like what like can't you believe it? Why don't you 18 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: go to Target or something or you know, go and 19 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 1: hang out with you know, prince or you know, like whatever. Yeah, 20 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: and then the other thing about this guy is that 21 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: he's married and has a kid. I mean, what, who 22 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: does that anymore. 23 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: Honestly, Millie, Millie, I'm in the crowd. It's Casey Hi. 24 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: Well you can't even really see you. The light is 25 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: really bright. 26 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Millie, I'm here. 27 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: You are here, aren't you? 28 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: All your material? Just making jokes about me? 29 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I wrote on this little piece of paper Minnesota, 30 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: married with a kid, likes garden State. Yeah, pretty much 31 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: everything is about you, dude. 32 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: Well, you shouldn't have you shouldn't have invited me. Well, 33 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: I cannot to support you. I didn't realize all these 34 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: jokes are going to be riffing on me. 35 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: Dude, I invited you because I felt bad. I never 36 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: thought you would actually come. Like, I'm like, he's such 37 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: a loser, he would never come to my to my 38 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: open mic, And now here you are. Well yeah, now, 39 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, what was How was I supposed 40 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: to like come up with materials like? I don't know. 41 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: I just was like, it's my first time. I've never 42 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: written jokes before, and it just seems obvious. 43 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what's worse, you're making 44 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: all these jokes about me, or that you're absolutely crushing 45 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: up The people are eating this up. 46 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: Are you serious? 47 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: You hear the laughs? 48 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: People are dying. You're putting me on? Are you no? 49 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: Not really? 50 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 3: Not good? 51 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: Have I really liked? Yeah? You should? 52 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: You should keep it up. 53 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: Oh man, Well that's that's nice. See. And now I 54 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: feel bad. I feel bad saying all those jokes about you. 55 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I always thought i'd be good. 56 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: I'd always thought I'd be good at stand up. 57 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: So, you know, well, congrats, I guess. Well, you know, Mellie, 58 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: we're supposed to host a podcast together this week about 59 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: sort of this topic, you know, yeah, yeah, we're talking 60 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: about the movie is this thing on from twenty twenty five? 61 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: A Bradley Cooper joint. 62 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: I'm passionate if he stole that, if he just stole 63 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: that phrase of Bradley Cooper joint, put it at the 64 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: beginning of his films. 65 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: I mean, it wouldn't be the most it wouldn't be 66 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: that out of the realm of something he might do. 67 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: He's a wild card. 68 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: He is truly a wild card. And I have so 69 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: much to say having to watch this new film of his, 70 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: because we've gonet record in the past talking about how 71 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 1: Bradley Cooper is one of the weirdest filmmakers we've ever 72 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: come across. Yeah, and I don't even know if I'm 73 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: going to be able to rain in my feelings about 74 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: this new one. 75 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: Well, we have an obsession with him, and I think that, 76 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: you know, we've reported on any sort of news that 77 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: comes out about him, and so we had to see 78 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: this movie. We had to talk about this movie at 79 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: some point, you know. 80 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, Casey, I'm just going to say right now, Well, 81 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: the title of this podcast is dear Movies, I love you. 82 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 83 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: However, this week the old jingle might go dear movies, 84 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: I hate you. Wow. Yeah, I am amazed that it's 85 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: shifted you as a person so much that you hate 86 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: the medium, not just a secular film. I have three. 87 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: I have recalibrated my thoughts on movies, on comedy, friendship, friendship, 88 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: on doing a creative pursuits, whatsoever. So stay stay tuned, everybody. 89 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: It's gonna be journey. 90 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: Oh my god. Well we're gonna talking about that, and 91 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: we're also gonna we got some great emails coming in 92 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 2: for our Gripes, Gropes and Grits sections, so we got 93 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: to answer some of the but no, this is going 94 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: to be a great, great show. 95 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: It is so stay tuned everyone. You are listening to 96 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: dear movies. I hate you. I mean I love you. Dear, 97 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: I love you, and I've got. 98 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: To know you love me too. Check the books. 99 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: Hey, folks, you are listening to deer movies. I love you. 100 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: This is the podcast for those who are in a 101 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: relationship with movies. My name is Millie de Cherico. 102 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: My name is Casey O'Brien, and as. 103 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: We alluded to in the intro, we are going to 104 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: do a movie this week called is This Thing On? 105 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: From twenty twenty five. It's Bradley Cooper's most recent directorial efforts, 106 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: which is about stand up but it's also about marriage. 107 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: It gets away from the stand up for like a 108 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: large chunk of the movie. 109 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like the stand up part becomes 110 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: like less and less important and more irritating. 111 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: I actually weirdly like found the stand up stuff. Okay, 112 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: we'll get into it, but like, did you a surprise 113 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: to myself as well? I can't wait. I cannot wait 114 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: to get into this. Oh my god, Yeah, I'm thrilled. Well, Millie, 115 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: did you have anything you wanted to get into before 116 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: we open up the film diary. 117 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: Now we might as well just do this. 118 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: Let's dive right in. Open it up, Millie, What did 119 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: you watch this week? 120 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: Casey? This week, I watched a very important movie, very 121 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: important to you and I specifically, I watched a movie. 122 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: I watched it. 123 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: Movie from twenty twenty five called Undertone. 124 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: Yes, and now I've heard of this movie. I don't 125 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: know what it's about, but I know that there is 126 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: a podcasting element to it. 127 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: I dare I say this is the first podcast horror film? 128 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: Am I right about this? 129 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: You're not right about that? I saw. I'm trying to 130 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: find there's like another one I saw. Hold on, I 131 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: watched it. 132 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: You're not right. You are an incorrect. 133 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: Okay, I can't find it. I really can't find it. 134 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: But there is, Uh, there is another horror movie. I'll 135 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: look it up when we've don't recording about podcasting, Okay, 136 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 2: it's it's there's there's not that many entries into that 137 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: that genre. 138 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: I will say, yeah, I would agree with that this 139 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: movie is basically like a podcast episode. 140 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: Okay. 141 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: I knew absolutely nothing about this movie when I walked 142 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: in to the theater, and uh, you know, it's very 143 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: based in audio, as you can imagine because it's about 144 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: a podcast. A lot of freaky, dicky shit going on there. Uh. 145 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:12,359 Speaker 1: The director is Filipino, which I really appreciated Filipido Canadian. 146 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: Actually that's great, so fully into that scary. Yes, okay, 147 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: I won't go beyond that. Does doing a podcast with 148 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: a guy who does not live in my town inform 149 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: my appreciation for a movie. 150 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 2: Like this, is that like the plot of the movie. Yes, 151 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: oh my god. 152 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: What I tell you it is? Like I was like, 153 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: that is this is the story of Million Casey. 154 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, that's spooky. 155 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: It's spooky, but also like I just couldn't help but 156 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: like laugh about it. It' I was like, come on, 157 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 1: this is too much, right, Like I was like, this 158 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: is And I remember like at some point my friends 159 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: were turning to me, They're like, is this what it's 160 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: like to do a podcast? And I'm like, yes, actually 161 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: it is. Uh. We both wear headphones and we both 162 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: log into you know, our zoom call and blah blah blah, 163 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: and you know, look up things while we talk, and 164 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: you know, anyway, it was very immediate in that way, 165 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: to the point where I was kind of laughing about it. 166 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if it kind of like took me 167 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: out of it a little bit. Maybe it did. But anyway, scary, 168 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: that's all I'll say. 169 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: Scary. Okay, Okay. I found the name of the other 170 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: podcast horror movie. It's called Monolith, and that one is 171 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: really a woman recording a podcast by herself and so 172 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: in her house and that's like the only place. That's 173 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: the only location. So that's kind of an interesting one too. 174 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: From twenty twenty two. If you want to check out 175 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 2: more in the casting genre. Well, I got to see 176 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: this movie. I really got to see this. 177 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: You. 178 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: I figured you'd be there. Should we do a pot 179 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: should we do an episode about it? I guess is 180 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: what I mean. 181 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's put a pin in it. It's like, look 182 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: at it first and then we'll decide. Okay, it's a 183 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: twenty four yeah, mm hmm it is. Okay, I saw 184 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: so I watched. If I had legs, i'd kick you. 185 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: Okay, good, you know, because I wanted to make sure 186 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: I saw all the movies that had been nominated and 187 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: that was like that was like, uh, that was nominated 188 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: for Academy Award, but it wasn't one of the big nominees. 189 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 2: So I kind of skipped it before the Oscars, but 190 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure I saw it, and I 191 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: thought it was really great. Have you seen this? 192 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: Uh No, I haven't. 193 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 2: It is stressful. It is made by this director Mary Bronstein, 194 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: who is married to Ronald Bronstein, who is like the 195 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: main collaborator with Josh Saftie. Oh I see, so he 196 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 2: like has co written and co edited every Safti Brothers 197 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: movie too, So this does have something of a stressful 198 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: feel to it that is sort of adjacent to a 199 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: Saftie's brother's movie, But it's much's it's it's much different. 200 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: It's much more surreal and funny. And Conan O'Brien plays 201 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: Rose Byrn's therapist and he's really funny in it. And 202 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 2: it's just like I think people who have kids would 203 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: relate to, like the difficult, like how annoying having a 204 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: kid can be and how difficult it can be to 205 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: balance all these elements in your life. But it's really 206 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: good if you want to check it out. It's funny 207 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: and Rose burn is obviously great in it. Sure, then 208 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: most of this week I've been watching Heated Rivalry. 209 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: Ah. Yes, finally finally, and which I loved. Okay, that's good, 210 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: it's good. I thought it was great. Yeah, did you 211 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: tear up at all? 212 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: Be honest, he's joking, Are you joking? 213 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 214 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 2: I was very weepy. I was very leaky. Yeah, the 215 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 2: scenes that really got me. Well, I'm going to spoil 216 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: this if you haven't seen it, so I'm just saying 217 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: that for the audience. 218 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: Okay, cool, Like I've seen it. Have you listened to 219 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: the past like eight episodes? I keep referencing it. 220 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: Staying in Hollander and his little girlfriend are breaking up 221 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: and she's like asking him, and she's so gentle and thoughtful, 222 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: but she's like asking him questions like have you ever 223 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: been with a man? And he's just like nodding and 224 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: shaking his head to the answers, and his eyes are 225 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: tearing up, but he's kind of like smiling a little bit, 226 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: like Yeah, it's just so sweet and well done. And 227 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: I was really tearing up during that part. 228 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that part too. 229 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: I mean, this might be one of the greatest moments 230 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,239 Speaker 2: in television history. When Kip comes out of the stands 231 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: after Scott h I mean, can you I was like 232 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: I was getting chills, getting chills right now thinking about 233 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: it was good. It was good. I think a lot 234 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: of people, you know, you know, what you hear about 235 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: it before you watch it. Everyone's like, this is like 236 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 2: softcore porn. No it's not. It's not like softcore porn. 237 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: And then also people were like, it's so soapy, it's 238 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: a soap opera, it's a romance. I actually didn't feel 239 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: like it was. I thought it was just a really 240 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: good TV show. It's romantic and it's sexual because that's 241 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: the trajectory of their relationship. But I don't know, it 242 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 2: didn't feel like either of those things. And I don't 243 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: dislike things that are soapy, but it's not like a 244 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: soap opera. Yeah, it's just a good, compelling television show. 245 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: I also thought, I have a real problem with my 246 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: I've mentioned this before, but like modern prestige television, there's 247 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: so many episodes that just like nothing happens, and I'm 248 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: often like this should have been a movie, And I 249 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: didn't feel that. With Heated Rivalry, every episode felt very full, 250 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: very There's just a lot of action packed into every episode. 251 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: Things are moving so much in that show. That was great. 252 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: I loved it. 253 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I told I said when I watched 254 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: it and talked about it on the pod. Initially it 255 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: felt like maybe it could have been condensed, But I 256 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: ultimately think that I started thinking about it actually recently 257 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: because a friend of mine had just watched it too. 258 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: He's a gay man, and was like completely, I mean, 259 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: he just was destroyed by it, and it was lovely 260 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: to hear him talk about that. But I think we 261 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: both kind of came to the conclusion that the best 262 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: thing about it maybe is the fact that like nothing 263 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: bad happens, Like do you know what I'm saying? 264 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, like no, And I think so many queer stories 265 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, let's see when the hate crime scene happens. Yeah, 266 00:15:54,640 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 2: it's like some horrible you know, homophobic scene happens or something. 267 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: You know. 268 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like either somebody is going to get a 269 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: horrible disease and die, ilia is going to be found 270 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: out in Russia and they're going to kill them for 271 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: being gay. You know, none of those things happen. Like, 272 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: in fact, the most stressful thing to happen is that 273 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: Shane's dad finds out that they're gay, and then everything's 274 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: fine afterwards, and then they I mean even in that 275 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: scene where the woman rose, I guess that Shane is 276 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: trying to date. That whole episode, by the way, was 277 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: my favorite, I think. 278 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: But it's a great one. That's the one where they're 279 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: in the dance club too. Yeah, and they're like looking 280 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: at each. 281 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: Other well, and like even her reaction towards him when 282 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: he's like I'm like not into you is completely great. 283 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: Like she's like, cool, we could just be best friends. 284 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: Why do you know, as opposed to like this having 285 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: this negative reaction of like, well, I can't believe you 286 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: wasted my time and blah blah blah, Like yeah, that's 287 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: the thing is that the end of the day. I 288 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: think the reason why this show is so popular, it 289 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: has resonated it is because we're in a horrible moment 290 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: right now and it's like the nicest, most pleasant thing 291 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: to be watching, Like nothing bad happens. We need it, 292 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: we need this joy. You know, I totally agree. But 293 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: at the same time, when you say that, I think 294 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: people think it's like fluffy like Ted Lasso. No, No, 295 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: it's not. 296 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 2: It's like it is very like there's a lot of 297 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 2: tension and you're and steaks. There's a lot of steaks 298 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: and you feel the steaks, but it also doesn't it 299 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 2: exists in a you don't feel like something horrifically tragic 300 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 2: is going to happen, you know. It's just like it's 301 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: it's a romance. It's like if it was it's the 302 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: same stakes of like a straight romance that you would 303 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: see on screen. You don't assume that one of them 304 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 2: is going to get like yeah, but. 305 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: And it's not like inspirational in that direct, like in 306 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: that kind of way. 307 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: It's not cool, it's not it's no, you know, it's 308 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: a romance, but it's like the tension of like not 309 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: just being a professional athlete, but a gay athlete and 310 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: like keeping its secret, but without like the real life 311 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 2: tension of that, you know, Like so I I don't 312 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: know it was it was great. I loved it. 313 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: God, that's great. Now you can understand all the jokes 314 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: that I've been slipping into the podcast for weeks. 315 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll have to go back and listen to every 316 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: single minute. 317 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: I'm coming to the cottage means way cool? 318 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: Did it make you more into hockey? 319 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: Not at all? 320 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 2: No, that's fair. 321 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: Did it make me more into. 322 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 2: Connor? 323 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: Story? And Hudson Williams. Yes, sure, I you know, that's 324 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: the thing about these two guys. The fuck do they 325 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: come from? They're amazing, Like I like, it's such it's 326 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: if you want to talk about it, you know, in 327 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: terms of that even on its own, I mean, what 328 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: a fucking crazy, out of left field phenomenon. 329 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 2: Like yeah, I mean I think that was made. 330 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: In a foreign country with two completely unknown stars, like 331 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: becomes the greatest TV smash of current times. 332 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: Well, Connor's story was talking about He's like, when I 333 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: got the heated rivalry job, he was still a waiter. 334 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: You know. It's like it is just crazy. They really, 335 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: I mean, to go from where he was to like 336 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: hosting SNL. I mean, it's it is absolute insanity. 337 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 338 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 2: Did you watch the SNL watch bits of it? Yeah? 339 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: Yeah I did. 340 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: Like the when Hudson came out, that was exciting. 341 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, love love them boys. 342 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: So those boys. Anyways, should we close up the film diary? 343 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 3: Fuck? 344 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, we got to get into this important film. 345 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's groundbreaking masterpiece. 346 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 2: We're back with our main discussion. I'm like scared to 347 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: get into this. Oh my god, it's it feels nuclear. 348 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: Oh god. 349 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: So we're talking about. Is this thing on? From twenty 350 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: twenty five, directed by Bradley Cooper, written by Willarnett, Bradley Cooper, 351 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 2: Mark Chappell. I'm like laughing already. 352 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: I'm already rolling my eyes. Gosh. Uh. 353 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: It's a comedy drama. It's about divorce, it's about being 354 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 2: a dilf. I guess, Uh, I guess Will Arnett. I 355 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 2: mean he he's a real life smoker. 356 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: Ah, you can tell. 357 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 2: You can tell the skin of a voice. 358 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: Shrift store handbag, yep. 359 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: Oh boy, Yeah, he looks like he's been yeah, tanned 360 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: in a leather shop. Some of the standout actors Will Arnett, 361 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: Bradley Cooper, Laura Dern, Peyton Manning. Yeah, I wasn't expecting 362 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 2: him to be acting in this, not as Peyton. He's 363 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: an act He's playing a character in this right. Uh, Millie, 364 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 2: what is your personal connection to this movie besides your 365 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: undying love of our boy Coop Coop? 366 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no connection to this movie at all. 367 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: Stand up, let's talk about it. I'm kind of renascent 368 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: to say this because I have so many friends that 369 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 1: do stand up comedy. Yes, I am not normally a 370 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: fan of stand up. I'm not. I hate to admit it. 371 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: That's brave of you to say. 372 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have seen it. I've certainly enjoyed it, you know. 373 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: Like I've have listened to stand up comedy albums in 374 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: the past and have seen a lot of stand up 375 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: especially when I lived in LA, but have on the whole, 376 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: but on the whole have I Can I say that 377 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm like a huge fan of stand up comedy. 378 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 2: No, I I'm not going to go that far, Okay, 379 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: but I can see what you're saying. I don't really. 380 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 2: It doesn't really like pull me in. It's not something 381 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: I'm particularly attracted to. I don't seek it out. It 382 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: can be really bad and awkward, and I think there 383 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: are art forms that I just prefer more. I have 384 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: a lot of respect for it. I think it's singular 385 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 2: and unique. It's like jazz music, you know. 386 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't like seek it out very much. Yeah, 387 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: I think part of what I hate about it is 388 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: the audience. Sure, And it's not even like I think 389 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: all stand up audiences have to be terrible, Like, it 390 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: doesn't even matter if you're like at the coolest bar 391 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: in LA or New York or at you know, like 392 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: a you know, comedy festival in the middle of nowhere 393 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: with like a bunch of drunk you know, parents that 394 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: are out for the night or something like that. Like, 395 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I think every stand up audience is 396 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: inherently bad. 397 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 398 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: I get frequently embarrassed for people in the audience, especially 399 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: those who like try to participate. That makes me cringe. 400 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: That makes me cringe on a level that I can't 401 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: even like talk about because I'll start having stomach pains. 402 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 3: Ugh. 403 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: Like I am very skeptical of stand up movies too. 404 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. 405 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 2: I would say, like the The King of Comedy is 406 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: probably my favorite stand up movie, but that's not even 407 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: really a stand up movie. 408 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: You know. I did do a little bit of stand up. Ohday, 409 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: my god, what was that like? Case well, number one, 410 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: I was not very good. 411 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: I think I really had a hard time because you 412 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 2: do have to have kind of an on stage persona. 413 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: Even if you're being yourself and you're trying to be 414 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: authentically yourself, it's a little bit of an elevated version 415 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 2: of yourself, you know, And I could never quite get 416 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: into that vibe. Yeah, And it also felt like weird 417 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 2: to me to like my art before then had always 418 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 2: been like writing stories or writing movies that had like 419 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 2: were like narratives, and then this was like different, and 420 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 2: I had I just had a hard time with it. 421 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: I couldn't. I never felt comfortable doing it, and it's 422 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: really a grind. You have to go like five six 423 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 2: nights a week to like get good at it and 424 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: make connections and stuff. And I never like vibed with 425 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: the other comedians. So it just I wasn't. I just didn't. 426 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: I wasn't hyped up about it. My friend and I, 427 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: my friend Alex and I used to go together to 428 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: try to go do it, but it was like, at 429 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 2: the end of the day, I just don't want to 430 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 2: be out at night that much. Yeah, that's you know, 431 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 2: it's like a lifestyle thing. 432 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: Well, and that's like the thing that really makes me 433 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: cringe about the lifestyle of it, because it feels like, Okay, 434 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: I will I will say this generally as you know, 435 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: I would say, like a person in my forties, it 436 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: feels like there's kind of two distinct life paths that 437 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: a lot of like people of my age group sort 438 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: of went for when they realized that they weren't going 439 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: to be musicians, and they didn't want to be musicians. 440 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: They either became chefs or they became stand up comics. Interesting, 441 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: so there's this like, you know, badassory like punk thing 442 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: happening in both of those professions that I feel like 443 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: got ushered in by people of my generation, like alternative 444 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: comedy mixed with like Anthony Bourdain. Yeah, and so also 445 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: it also felt like comedy became a lifestyle. And I 446 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 1: think we'll talk a little bit more about this as 447 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: the movie progresses, because I don't know. To me, that 448 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: notion of it drives me fucking bananas the whole Like, 449 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, I gotta be this like, you know, complete 450 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: fuck up, like complete nightmare of a person in order 451 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: to be really good at stand up or to be 452 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,239 Speaker 1: like a truth teller, I have to have like a 453 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: damaged life or something like that. I just think, I 454 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: think I just have gone through so much of it 455 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: in my life as the friend to stand up comics 456 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: and improv people and people in the comedy world that 457 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, respectfully, I've had enough. I love you all. 458 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: I do not want to be in the world that 459 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: you're in. 460 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 4: Ever. 461 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: I never wanted to be by the way, just because 462 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: I do a podcast doesn't mean I want to be 463 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: a comedian. You know, just because I've done podcasts with 464 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: comedians doesn't mean I want to be a comedian. I've 465 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: never wanted to be. 466 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: So it is interesting too because I feel like stand 467 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: up it feels like stand ups most stand ups treated 468 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 2: as a stepping stone to something else. They're trying to 469 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 2: do something else, they're trying to get like on a 470 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 2: TV show, they're trying to get like movies made. And 471 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, so, what are you just trying to use 472 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 2: stand up to like like put it behind you at 473 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 2: some point and then I just couldn't get passionate about 474 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: something like that. I guess, yeah, you know, well. 475 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: I mean that's the other thing too, is that I 476 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: think we talked about this a long time ago when 477 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: we were talking about were we talking about the King 478 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: of Comedy? Where everybody thinks that they're funny like everything, like, 479 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: there isn't like one person in the world that's like, 480 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm not that funny. I don't really think I have 481 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: a very good sense of humor. Since if everybody thinks 482 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: that they're funny, then everybody thinks that they can be 483 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: a comedian. And I just am like, it's okay to 484 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: not be a comedian. It's okay to be a person 485 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: in this world who doesn't want to be a professional comic. 486 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: And I'm one of those people, like I don't want 487 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: to be I'm like, I'm leaving that to the experts. 488 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: And like I said, a lot of my friends do comedy. 489 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: Some of my best friends in the world are stand ups. 490 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: And I'm like, great, I love you. I love that. 491 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: For you, I love you. 492 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 2: But for me, well, I've made a whole career of 493 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: working with comics. So it's like sacrilegious that I'm even 494 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 2: saying this, I know, but I feel. 495 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: Like we're I feel like our show is going to 496 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: get shut down. Yeah, I think it's exactly right. He 497 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: is going to come in, They're gonna arrest both of 498 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: us and then uh cancel our podcast. Well, I would 499 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: encourage Bananas. I would encourage Karen Lisa. I would care 500 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: to make fun of citophiles. Now go up record, do 501 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: an entire episode about how you hate movie people, because 502 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: I would be with you. I'd be standing there with you. 503 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 2: So anyways, let's get to the movie directed by our 504 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: boy Bradley Cooper. Uh So, this is about Alex Novaka 505 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: played by Will Arnett. He's an upper class Westchester financial guy. 506 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: We don't really get into his job at all, but 507 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: we have to just assume that he's incredibly wealthy, you know. 508 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: Does it say he's a financial guy and then he 509 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: was like in finance? He says that at some point, 510 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: Oh god, I didn't catch that. Now I hate it 511 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: even more. 512 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 2: Well, how else would he afford this giant house like 513 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: in Westchester and like Iran in Manhattan and stuff. I know, 514 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: but like, ugh, he makes it makes them a little 515 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: less sympathetic. He though, is getting a very possibly the 516 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 2: most amicable divorce of all time from Test Novak played 517 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: by Laura Dern. They have two kids together, two boys. 518 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: So he's moving to the city and he's having a 519 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: bit of a midlife crisis. One night, in order to 520 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: avoid paying the entry fee to a bar, he puts 521 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 2: his name down for an open mic. He's I just 522 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: want to get a drink, you know. But he's called 523 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: on stage and he does a quick improvised set and 524 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 2: guess what, it goes okay, And now he's been bitten 525 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 2: by the comedy bug and he wants to keep doing 526 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: stand up Now I find that this whole introduction very 527 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: irritating because I think it one is sort of insulting 528 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 2: to stand up comics that it's like just walked in. 529 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 2: It's like, hey, I'm pretty good at this, and it's 530 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: like you just mo up on the spot, and it's 531 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 2: like that's insulting. Then Number one, I feel like there's 532 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: this type of guy, and Bradley Cooper is certainly this 533 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 2: type of guy, and Johnny Depp is like another type 534 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: of this guy who kind of like they like to 535 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: brag about, like yeah, I was doing this thing. I 536 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: wasn't even trying and they ended up hiring me for 537 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 2: this job, or like cool, I went along with a 538 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: friend too an audition. I didn't even audition and they 539 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 2: wanted me in it. 540 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: You know like these kind of stories you hear, these 541 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: kind of stories where they're like I was doing something 542 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: and I didn't even really care, but they. 543 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: Thought it was so good at this I just was 544 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: naturally so good. I just it's like bragging about how 545 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 2: they didn't try but they still succeeded. Do you know 546 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 2: this type of story? 547 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: Yes? 548 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 4: And I feel like this this type of character that 549 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 4: this whole movie is sort of that way, you know. 550 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: Okay, Like right off the bat, I'm like, this guy 551 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: goes to the Comedy Seller, which is an actual place. 552 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: Does this very popular, very esteemed. 553 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: Yes, very esteemed place where lots and lots of famous 554 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: people have performed Lisa trigger there is there all the time. Yeah, 555 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: professional comedian leads a trigger. He goes to this open 556 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: mic and really has probably the most milk toast first 557 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 1: time set you could possibly ever have. And in the 558 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: in the context of the film, it's supposed to have 559 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: gone well. And this is where I'm like, no, it 560 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: did not go well. This is not funny. 561 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 2: It went well in terms of the laughter, though taken 562 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: out of the film, it was not a good set. 563 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: I mean, dude, get real, Like, you go to an 564 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: open mic and you see this guy come up and 565 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: he says, like, what's going on with his life? For 566 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: five minutes you're telling me you would have laughed at all? 567 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not saying I would. And if you go 568 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: to an open mic, most are horrific and people it's 569 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 2: like absolute silence and it's painful, dude, And that's what 570 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: would have happened. 571 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: I realized before I knew better, before I knew better. 572 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: I used to go see my friends at open mics. Yeah, 573 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: never again, I will know first, are you kidding me? Like, 574 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: I'll go see your show. I don't want to go 575 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: to your open mic though, Like, are you joking? I 576 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: mean that is like it's like watching twenty seven unfunny 577 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: people before you come up at one o'clock in the 578 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: morning and then you're only on for a couple of 579 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: minutes and I'm like, yeah, what did my time just 580 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: fall into a vortex? Like what the fuck am I 581 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: doing here? 582 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: And that's the thing. I had to pay twenty five 583 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: bucks twenty yes. 584 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: Yes, twenty five bucks. I had to have at least 585 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: four drinks. And I'm like, and I'm like, this is 586 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: supposed to happen every week. I'm supposed to come see 587 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: you every fucking week. Anyway. This was a constant runner 588 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: in the film for me on whether or not I 589 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: believed that Will Arnett's character was supposed to have been 590 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: good at comedy. 591 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 2: I think in the world of the movie he was. 592 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: Of course he is in the world of the movie, 593 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: but it's like fantasy. And I kept thinking to myself, now, 594 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: hey that good? Are you kid me? 595 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 2: Are we saying this is fantasy. It's like in any 596 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 2: movie where like it's about a fake artist and they're like, 597 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 2: oh my god, this is the most beautiful piece of 598 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 2: art I've ever seen, and it like sucks, but in 599 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 2: the world of the movie, it's incredible, you know. 600 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, at some point we're putting the cart before 601 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: the horse, I suppose. But at some point he gets 602 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: a call. They jump him up. They're like, we'll give 603 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: you ten minutes. I'm like, why would you do that 604 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: ten minutes? 605 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 2: Okay, Millie, we got to talk about this adult group 606 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: of friend my godhead. So this is sort of the 607 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 2: SmartLess podcast sponsored movie because Sean Hayes is also in it, yes, 608 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 2: and Audre Day is in it, and Bradley Cooper plays 609 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 2: a struggling actor. I mean, he plays one of the 610 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 2: most irritating characters to put to celluloid And Millie, what 611 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: is Bradley Cooper's character's name? 612 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: Okay, his character is named Balls. All right. First of all, 613 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna float another theory of mine to you that 614 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: these people are not fucking friends. Where do you meet 615 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 1: people like this? Where do you have this perfectly integrated, 616 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: big chill the in group of fucking fuckers with like 617 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: a guy named Balls and his black wife to like 618 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: rich gay guys. And then there's like will ARDNT Laura 619 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: Dark Okay, and they're so good friends that they go 620 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: to like vacation together. Gave me a fucking break. Bradley 621 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: Cooper's character is named Balls, and I'm not sure if 622 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: that is his nickname or his god given name, but 623 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: I don't care. I would never call my friend Balls, 624 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: even if his name was Balls, balls given to him 625 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: by his parents. You're not I'm not calling you Balls, sorry. 626 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 2: See. I think this is one of the big feelings 627 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 2: of this movie. Among a few. I would say that 628 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 2: Bradley Cooper is a as a person, is so out 629 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 2: of touch with reality, and he has no actual friends, 630 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 2: and so he's like, this is what a friend group 631 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 2: looks like, and this movie is about more normal people 632 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,720 Speaker 2: and one of the first movies he's ever made about 633 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: normal regular citizens. Because Like a Star Is Born is 634 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 2: about like artists and rock stars, and then Maestro is 635 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 2: about like a very famous conductor. It's like these people 636 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 2: live in like elevated, weird celebrity places and these are 637 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 2: about this movie's about regular people, and he is so 638 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 2: out of touch that these It feels like it was 639 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 2: made by an alien. 640 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean this is his like James L. 641 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: Brooks and movie with like normal friends who are, you know, 642 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 1: cool with each other. But I'm like it bricks, Like, 643 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: first of all, they're completely useless to the plot, Like 644 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: I don't even know what what point they serve other 645 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: than giving a little bit of tiny bit of levity. 646 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 1: And then this crazy a cappella version. 647 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 2: Okay, we I was gonna hold on that. 648 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 1: Put a pit in it, put a pit in it. Okay, 649 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: But in terms of the friend group generally, I was like, 650 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: ain't no way these people are fucking friends. 651 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, one hundred percent. I mean it does feel 652 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,919 Speaker 2: like this was by a bunch of out of touch 653 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 2: celebrities about real life, and uh, that comes through a 654 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 2: lot in the friend group. Also, you have a note 655 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 2: here that says you're convinced everyone wore a fake nose 656 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 2: in this book. 657 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: Okay, very number two. First of all, this has nothing 658 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: to do with the actors in the film. I'm sure 659 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: they had nothing to do with this. I don't know 660 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: if it was the lighting, I don't know if it 661 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: was the makeup, I don't know what it was, but 662 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: like everybody looked bad, Like everyone. 663 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 2: Looked like shit, Yeah, everyone's looking a little rough in 664 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 2: this one. Yeah, And I don't know, I'm sure that 665 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 2: was intentional because Bradley Cooper was like, well, these are 666 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 2: real people, so they look bad. Like I feel like 667 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 2: he was that was an intentional choice. 668 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: I couldn't understand it. 669 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 2: I was like, is it me? 670 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 1: Why does everybody look like sick? Everybody looks bad? Then 671 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: I started getting in my head about it, and I 672 00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know if it's because I was 673 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: thinking about Maestro and Bradley Cooper's love for fake noses 674 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: and ship and I'm like, I started convincing myself that 675 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: Laura Dern and Will Arnett were wearing fake noses. 676 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 2: That's really an interesting take. I haven't heard anything about this, 677 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 2: but dude, I didn't think that when I watched back. 678 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: Look, you're like, it's a bruder film. We got to 679 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: go through this, Yeah, it frame by frame. I'm convinced, 680 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: like this is my Pizza Gate that they were wearing 681 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: fake noses. And I'm not saying complete fake noses, but 682 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 1: maybe they got added to, like maybe they they had 683 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: a tiny bit of of of some you. 684 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 2: Know some some some extender, Yeah maybe buddy, Yeah, something 685 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 2: like that. 686 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: Some made some made right, some of them ain't right 687 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: with the way that people look in this film. 688 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 2: And this is a movie that is like devoid of 689 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 2: conflict kind of too, like there's there's just like nothing 690 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 2: much happens in this or it's like and the conflict 691 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,879 Speaker 2: is very silly. Yeah, like I was saying at the men, 692 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 2: there's like the divorce isn't even that like it's not 693 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 2: like messy, and you're kind of like, what's his problem? 694 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 2: He's got money and uh a house. 695 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: I don't know well that they think that again, like 696 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: another failing of the film is trying to figure out 697 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: what the deal is and you're like, okay, well, if 698 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm not going to reveal it at the top, maybe 699 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: it gets revealed as the movie goes on, and perhaps 700 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: I didn't catch it, but we'll see. 701 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 2: We got a lot maybe maybe on the on this 702 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 2: read through, we can maybe pull some things out. Okay. 703 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 2: So Alex, he starts writing jokes and he's going up 704 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 2: every night and he's getting better, and you know, he's 705 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,280 Speaker 2: not burdened with having to take care of his children 706 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 2: anymore because he lives in an apartment downtown, so he's 707 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 2: got plenty of time to do stand up, so he 708 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 2: even hooks up with a young comic Koray also Tess 709 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 2: the Laura. During character, she's pursuing her life passion, which 710 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 2: this was another weird choice. She is a former Olympic 711 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 2: volleyball player. She reaches out to an old acquaintance slash 712 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 2: potential future fuck, Buddy Layered, played by Peyton Manning, who 713 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 2: is like the athletic director for some college or he 714 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 2: works for Team USA Olympic Volleyball. Anyway, she's gonna get 715 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 2: a job. I can't remember what, but he's going to 716 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 2: offer her a job as a volleyball coach. And they 717 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 2: go on a date and they accidentally stumble into the 718 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 2: comedy seller when Alex is doing stand up and he's 719 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 2: doing stand up about her, and uh oh, big trouble. 720 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 2: But guess what this makes Tess horny and they get 721 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 2: back together. Oh my god, they're back. Everything's gonna be okay. 722 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 2: It's funny. This is one of the first times where 723 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 2: I made a note on our document and then Millie 724 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 2: wrote like counterpoint because what I was saying what I 725 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 2: said that I thought I actually liked about the movie 726 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 2: was that you can get into something new no matter 727 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 2: what your age. You just have to enter humbly and 728 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 2: not like an asshole. And that's what he does to 729 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,479 Speaker 2: the comedy world. You know, he asks questions, he tries 730 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 2: to become better. And I thought that was a good 731 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 2: lesson in life, Like I kind of found that inspiring, 732 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 2: but you apparently did not, well, because I. 733 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: Do it every day of my life, like as a 734 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: single woman with no kids and no husband. It's like, yes, 735 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 1: I'm constantly able to follow my bliss and try new shit. 736 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 1: I could start stand up tomorrow if I wanted to. 737 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 2: You could, You know you'd be good too, well, And 738 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 2: I think, okay. 739 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: The inspiring thing being like state, I guess curious and 740 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: inspired by things to want to shark, but nothing holds 741 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: my ass back from doing shit. 742 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 2: Sure, but I think Millie, you're unique in that way. 743 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: Sure I'll say, yeah, I'll take that, I am. But 744 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: it's also like, so to me, I find it. I 745 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: had the opposite reaction to you when it comes to 746 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: will Arnette, being like, I'm a divorced guy who's kind 747 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: of sad and now I want to be a stand 748 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: up comic. I'm gonna try it. I'm gonna be like, no, 749 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: don't try it. Actually, we need less of you, We 750 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 1: need less divorced guys doing stand up please, you know. 751 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: Whereas I'm like, you know, I don't know. Maybe if 752 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: you wanted to start painting or wanted to, like, you know, 753 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,479 Speaker 1: be a potter or something, I'd kind of be down 754 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: for that, But I feel like it's such a straight 755 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: white guy thing to be like, following my bliss is 756 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: doing stand up comedy. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 757 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: So I can go on stage and get love bitching 758 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: about my ex wife. Yeah you know, well, what did 759 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 1: you think about that? Making her horny? Don't even get 760 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 1: me started, Like, oh, okay, I gotta even go back 761 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: a step, dude, I gotta go back a step. 762 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 2: Okay. 763 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 1: The idea that she'd go out with Peyton Manning on 764 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: a date, and then Peyton Manning being such a boring, 765 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: fucking jock to be like, hey, why don't we get 766 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: a drink at the open mic next door? I would 767 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: have left. I would have been like, absolutely not going 768 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: for a drink with you at the open mic. That 769 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: sounds first of all, how do we even talk at 770 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: the open mic, Like, your suggestion to me is to 771 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: leave the dinner and get a drink with me at 772 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 1: a place where we have to watch people brick. Yeah. No, Like, 773 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: I don't know if you think we're gonna have sex 774 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 1: after this, but I'm absolutely I think that he did, 775 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: and I think that he's thought he was. This was 776 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: on the pathway to having sex with Lauria Dreak, which 777 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: is crazy, which is again a dumbass's assessment of how 778 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 1: to have sex with a woman. Right, So then idea 779 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 1: is that she just goes with him. Is er number one? 780 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: Number two she shows she's like at the open mic, 781 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 1: realizes that her ex husband is basically revealing to a 782 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: room full of strangers that he's divorced or he's separated, 783 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: and then he's had this new you know, jaunt in 784 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 1: the sheets with you know someone, and that he actually 785 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: like misses his wife or something like that at the 786 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: end of the day. Right, So, like some sad dad 787 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: revelation where he's like, yeah, I had sex with somebody 788 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,720 Speaker 1: and I just realized I kind of like having boring 789 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: sex with my wife, which it is kind of a 790 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,240 Speaker 1: nice sentiment. I will give him that, But the idea 791 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 1: that she simply sees him on stage and is like, fuck, 792 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 1: that's my ex husband. What a hottie. This is like 793 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,360 Speaker 1: making me like horny. And then she meets him outside 794 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: he's starts smoking a cigarette and she's like, yes, now 795 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 1: my ex husband is not only a fucking cool stand up, 796 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,959 Speaker 1: he's also edgy enough to smoke a fucking cigarette. After 797 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: a set, I was like, do not put this messaging 798 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,399 Speaker 1: in the world, please. God. I was like, this movie 799 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,879 Speaker 1: is gonna convince men that if you want to get 800 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 1: your women back, you just have to do stand. 801 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's it is a sickening message at 802 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 2: the end of the day. God, oh no, no, So 803 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,839 Speaker 2: it's almost as bad as like, to get your wife back, 804 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 2: you need to start a podcast or something. 805 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 1: Yes, all these like fucking things that I think have 806 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,280 Speaker 1: been debunked. Have these things not been debunked by everyone? 807 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: We like, it is impossible to get women back by 808 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 1: your old dumb tricks, you know, like no stand up, 809 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 1: no podcasting, no you know whatever, like sports betting. I 810 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: don't know what anyone. 811 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 2: Else how like, oh my god, incredible, Well they're back together, 812 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 2: wouldn't you know it? And so they're secretly dating now 813 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 2: because you know, they made the whole thing about telling 814 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 2: everyone they're getting a divorce. I don't think they might 815 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 2: have even gotten a divorce. Yeah, I don't know. But 816 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,720 Speaker 2: now they're dating in secret and it's kind of sexy, 817 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,879 Speaker 2: you know, the secret of it all. But there's still 818 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 2: tension for some reason. And one of the big tension 819 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 2: points is Will Arnett framed a photo of Tests for 820 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 2: his apartment from when she was playing volleyball and it's 821 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:57,800 Speaker 2: the back of her while she's spiking a volleyball and 822 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 2: she did not like that at all. And so they 823 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 2: go on this you know this this remind you know 824 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,320 Speaker 2: you talk about a group of friends. It's kind of 825 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 2: like the movie The Four Seasons or the new TV show. 826 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 2: They go on this like friend vacation and things are 827 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 2: not working between them. There's just tension. They're not they're 828 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:26,760 Speaker 2: not connecting. And Balls tells them that he and his wife, 829 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,800 Speaker 2: Christine played by Andre Day, are also splitting up because 830 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,919 Speaker 2: Alex inspired him, and like any good stand up movie, 831 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 2: you know, Will Arnett has a meltdown on stage. But 832 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,919 Speaker 2: I think the big thing I want to talk about 833 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 2: is at this like friend vacation, there is a scene 834 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 2: in the morning when the group of friends including Sean 835 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,879 Speaker 2: Hayes and Bradley Cooper aka Balls and Dedre Day, They're 836 00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 2: like making breakfast and they start singing Amazing Grace a 837 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 2: cappella and they sing the whole song and it is 838 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:13,319 Speaker 2: truly so insane. It's like, why did that happen at all? 839 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 2: It is totally unmotivated. It is not a beautiful moment. 840 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,320 Speaker 2: It felt like it was improvised, and Bradley Cooper's like, 841 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 2: you know what, it's actually like a really interesting thing 842 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 2: to put in their really interesting moment. I think it 843 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 2: really sums up the friendship. I don't know why it's 844 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 2: in the movie. It's so weird. 845 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna go back and repeat what we 846 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 1: just talked about not too long ago. This friend group 847 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: does not exist. It was completely shoehorned into this fucking movie. Right. 848 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: Not only that, but now they've got this friend vacation 849 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,839 Speaker 1: and I already invoked the big chill. This is their 850 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 1: big chill, wrapping shit up and foil fashing dishes and 851 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,320 Speaker 1: dancing at the Everyone's like plating scrambled eggs and bacon 852 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: and shit, and they're doing like a you know, a 853 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 1: cappella three part harmony, amazing grace, And I'm kind. 854 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 3: Of like. 855 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 1: Apropos of what, like, this is just no fucking rivert 856 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:16,839 Speaker 1: reason to this shit at all. 857 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not even a fun It would be one 858 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 2: thing if it was. They did like some funny dance 859 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 2: to show that they were friends, but it felt very 860 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 2: solemn and bizarre, like it was like, why is this happening? 861 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 1: And honestly, like even the entre day character, being the 862 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,479 Speaker 1: only black person in this group of extremely white people, 863 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 1: I'd be like, they don't get this from me. They're 864 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:44,399 Speaker 1: not getting my singing prowess on my vacation. They don't 865 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,839 Speaker 1: deserve that part of me. And I would I would 866 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 1: have I would have hidden that from her, from them. 867 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:52,800 Speaker 1: I would have code switched. 868 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 2: But code switch. 869 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 1: I was like, none of these people appreciate you. Okay, 870 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: come on, even ball see with your husband Balls. So 871 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned in the notes that you could understand why 872 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: Tess had such a violent reaction towards this photo that 873 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 1: Alex kind of like blew up and made into a 874 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 1: giant wall sized poster for his kids. Yes, because she 875 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 1: does have this reaction that is kind of like, why 876 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 1: would you do that. Yeah. 877 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:31,240 Speaker 2: The thing, I can kind of understand why she was upset. 878 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's good. 879 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 2: I think it's hard because you don't even know what 880 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 2: their main problem was as a couple. Yeah, Like you 881 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,839 Speaker 2: don't understand why they're splitting up, and so like when 882 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,839 Speaker 2: someone gets upset about something, I have no context about why. 883 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:43,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 884 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 2: Like so that was sort of confusing to me. I 885 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 2: can see how she would be upset, Like, I think 886 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 2: it's sort of bizarre that, like your ex husband's like, hey, look, 887 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 2: I put a a your big, a big picture of 888 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 2: you on my wall. I'd be like, don't do that. 889 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 2: We're splitting up, you know. I can understand that. I 890 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,320 Speaker 2: can also understand being like, can't you celebrate my accomplishments 891 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 2: for now and not who I was, which I think 892 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 2: is kind of ultimately what she's mad about. Yeah, that 893 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,240 Speaker 2: it's like, you don't see me now, you see only 894 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:14,400 Speaker 2: the old version of me. 895 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, And she has such anxiety about that too, where 896 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 1: you know in the movie, and she talks about this 897 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 1: with a Peyton Manning character, but also kind of at 898 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 1: other points in the movie. It's very subtle, so you 899 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 1: may not catch it, but she's like you know, trying 900 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 1: to you know, make peace with the fact that she 901 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 1: no longer plays and is now trying to be a coach, 902 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,240 Speaker 1: which I can understand being like a star at something 903 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 1: and then realizing that you're now probably much better as 904 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 1: like an advisor to something, yeah, which means ultimately means 905 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 1: that you're older and can't be a player anymore. Right, 906 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,879 Speaker 1: So she's having that kind of internal turmoil. But then 907 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 1: I can also see it as a woman being like, oh, 908 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:02,759 Speaker 1: so you want to put this picture of me when 909 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm like super hot and young and what do you 910 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 1: want to just like, yeah, you know, think about me 911 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 1: like that and not what I look like or who 912 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 1: I am now. So I get that. However, I totally 913 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 1: agree with you that the story is so bad that 914 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 1: you don't even know that that's an issue for her 915 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,319 Speaker 1: or for that That's the thing. 916 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 2: That's the thing I didn't I was like, that was 917 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 2: a problem. Why is she's so upset? I didn't know 918 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 2: that was like, yeah, ticking into something, you know. 919 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you get like, this is the thing about this 920 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: movie that confounded the fuck out of me was that 921 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, what is their issue or what are their issues? 922 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,399 Speaker 1: Because honestly, in the first five minutes, she's just like, hey, 923 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,320 Speaker 1: you want to get a divorce, and he's like cool. 924 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 1: She's brushing her teeth with no. 925 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 2: Tooth literally verbatim, that's verbatim what the scene is. She's like, 926 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 2: so this is done. 927 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, cool, Yeah, no toothpaste. By the way, I've 928 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,280 Speaker 1: talked about there was no toothpaste. 929 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 2: No, I didn't catch the multiple scenes. 930 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 1: Well, people brushing their t with no fucking toothpaste drives 931 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 1: you crazy? Who brought that up? 932 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 2: Did Alicia Malng that up? We brought that. 933 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 1: I brought it up in the Alasha episode as the 934 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 1: thing that drives me nuts film grape. But it's like, 935 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 1: that's the thing is that it kind of that is 936 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 1: all we know. And then you're like, okay, well maybe 937 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it. And then when they do talk 938 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,919 Speaker 1: about it, you're like, it's kind of too little, too late. 939 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 1: I have no idea why they're already mad about this 940 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. They should have hinted at something. There 941 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 1: should be more context and that has that was happening 942 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 1: all throughout this movie and it was driving me fucking bananas. 943 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I think, yes, I agree with that. 944 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 2: It was just like it's hard to know. It's like, 945 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 2: why were people getting upset and why were people getting happy? 946 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 2: I didn't know what was going on, ye you know. 947 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:51,440 Speaker 2: So the end of the movie, Alex talks to Balls 948 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,719 Speaker 2: and guess what. Balls and andre Day are not splitting up. 949 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 2: They're getting back there. They never split up, and that 950 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 2: was confusing too. I was like, what Ball character trajectory? 951 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 2: I think Bradley Cooper thought he was comic relief, but 952 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,880 Speaker 2: was not funny at all. It's really painful to watch, actually, 953 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 2: And Alex decides that he does want to be with 954 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 2: Tests and that they'll make it work. They just both 955 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 2: need to pursue what they individually love and they'll work 956 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 2: it out, I guess. And that's that's satisfactory to Laura 957 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,279 Speaker 2: Dern and they get back together because basically he's like, 958 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 2: I know marriage is hard, but I want to do 959 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,320 Speaker 2: it with you, you know. And it's like okay. But 960 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 2: it's like it comes back to the thing we we 961 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 2: were just talking about. It's like, why were they splitting up? 962 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. Why did they get back together? I 963 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,320 Speaker 2: also don't know, like there were no inciting incidents on 964 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 2: either end of that. It just kind of like they 965 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 2: just decided. I guess, yeah, And I get that. Sometimes 966 00:55:53,400 --> 00:56:00,360 Speaker 2: divorce does it come from this like super dramatic place. 967 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,840 Speaker 2: I mean, like it's they say in the movie, like 968 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 2: nobody cheated. There wasn't like some huge events. Sometimes it's 969 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 2: just people like, hey. 970 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,800 Speaker 1: Like we follow out of love and you know, I 971 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 1: don't really know what to do about that. And I 972 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 1: can I can get with that. I can get with 973 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 1: the idea that people want to separate for non dramatic reasons. 974 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,880 Speaker 1: But I also think if you're gonna make a fucking movie, 975 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to explain that to the viewers a 976 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 1: little bit more than you did. 977 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it needs to be like also they just I 978 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,440 Speaker 2: think it would have helped if they made the characters 979 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,319 Speaker 2: not get along. But there's so many scenes of them 980 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,839 Speaker 2: after they're like we're getting a divorce, them hanging out 981 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 2: and like joking around with each other. And if it's 982 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 2: a it's one of those things where there's not a 983 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,799 Speaker 2: dramatic reason that they're splitting up, they at least need 984 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 2: to not get along in the movie. But they got 985 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 2: along great. It seemed like yeah, I don't know, it 986 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:55,000 Speaker 2: was like weird. 987 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, they would have like these little moments where it's 988 00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 1: just just like, oh, cool, you bought a big car. 989 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,759 Speaker 1: Why'd you do that? Okay, But then they'd be at 990 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,920 Speaker 1: the kid's birthday party and they're running around like you know, 991 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,359 Speaker 1: some damn whimsical you know, Wes Anderson movie, and I'm like, okay, yeah, 992 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,719 Speaker 1: what is it? What is it with these people? And 993 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,760 Speaker 1: I don't understand what's happening? 994 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was like it's almost like 995 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,800 Speaker 2: Bradley Cooper wasn't comfortable enough making anyone a bad guy. Like, 996 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 2: no one's a bad guy in this movie, you know, 997 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 2: or do any None of the characters really do anything bad. 998 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 2: I would say, yeah in the movie, And I think 999 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,920 Speaker 2: you have to have your characters do bad things to 1000 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,400 Speaker 2: each other for there to be tension. 1001 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 1: You know. Also, I seriously, dude, I spent half of 1002 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 1: the movie wondering if Alex's father because Alex's mother and 1003 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 1: father play a prominent role. They're kind of like babysitters 1004 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 1: to the kids. But then they're like kind of around 1005 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 1: to like give him guph once in a while, right, Like, 1006 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 1: is Alex's that Mexican? I can't understand who this guy is? 1007 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 1: What is his car. I don't know the actor Kieren 1008 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:11,240 Speaker 1: Hinz No, I mean yes, by name. But I also 1009 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 1: thought his look was super bizarre in this film. Like 1010 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 1: I was just like, I don't know if that's the 1011 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:18,480 Speaker 1: way he looks at all films. 1012 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 2: He's Irish, yeah, and he is in There will be 1013 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 2: Blood and other things. But it's funny because they do 1014 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 2: kind of seem to go out of their way to 1015 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,240 Speaker 2: be like, well, he's foreign, but they never say like 1016 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 2: they aren't like he's Irish or like he's that. They 1017 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 2: say he's like from a different country, and it's sort 1018 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:38,040 Speaker 2: of kept vague. 1019 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's got kind of dark features, and 1020 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,959 Speaker 1: so that's why it was kind of like what's his ethnicity? 1021 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 1: Is alex half Mexican? Like I don't understand, like what's 1022 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 1: happening here? So I anyway, again, something too vague to 1023 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 1: leave unanswered. 1024 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 2: The end of the movie, I was like, so this 1025 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 2: movie is about finding like stand up comedy and finding 1026 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 2: the passion for stand up comedy, but it really like 1027 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,560 Speaker 2: loses that along the way. And then at the end 1028 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 2: of the movie, I'm like, wait, so is he moving 1029 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 2: back to Westchester? Because if he does that, he's not 1030 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 2: going to be going up five nights a week in 1031 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 2: the city. So the end of the movie felt like, well, 1032 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 2: I'm done with stand up now, and so in that way, 1033 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, what was the whole point of 1034 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 2: this whole fucking movie? Yeah, you're done with it, Like 1035 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,919 Speaker 2: it seems like you tossed it aside without any any thought. 1036 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:33,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1037 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 1: That's how it sort of felt at the end. I 1038 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 1: don't know, And it was kind of like we're still 1039 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:41,920 Speaker 1: on the on the fence on whether or not Tessa's 1040 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 1: reignited flame for him is contention upon him being a 1041 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 1: stand up right, Yeah. 1042 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 4: So it's kind of like it's confusing the ending that 1043 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,440 Speaker 4: they aren't like like I think there had to have 1044 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 4: been a scene where it's like I want to get 1045 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 4: back together, but I still want to do comedy and 1046 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 4: her being like okay, like some acknowledgment of it, but 1047 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 4: it's like not, it's gone. 1048 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 2: It's very weird. 1049 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, like, what do they do do 1050 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 1: they move back into the city. She's a volleyball coach 1051 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 1: and he's a stand up comic I know, and they 1052 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,400 Speaker 1: just live a bohemian lifestyle in the same I don't understand, Like, 1053 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 1: what is the wrap up? Dude? I feel like I've 1054 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 1: said so much about this film. Uh, it's very clear 1055 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 1: how I feel. Yes, if we're going to wrap this 1056 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:37,640 Speaker 1: up in any kind of way, because the whole fucking 1057 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,720 Speaker 1: reason we watched this movie is because of Bradley Cooper 1058 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 1: and our thoughts of him as a filmmaker. Okay, I 1059 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 1: think it's fairly obvious that I did not enjoy is 1060 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,479 Speaker 1: this thing on? Okay, besides the fact that it's way 1061 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:58,520 Speaker 1: too long, over two hours? Why is it over two hours? Again, 1062 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,760 Speaker 1: as a romantic comedy does not need to be this long. 1063 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,440 Speaker 1: The thing that really bothers me about this film in particular, 1064 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,400 Speaker 1: and now that he's made three movies, we can we 1065 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 1: can you know, assess his filmmaking caurer over the course 1066 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 1: of three movies. Okay, he made two movies that are 1067 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:25,080 Speaker 1: essentially gay movies for straight people. Okay, if this is 1068 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,320 Speaker 1: my opinion. By the way, you know, a Star is 1069 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 1: Born a classic ip which you know is I'm claiming 1070 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,840 Speaker 1: it gay. It's for gay people, like the story is 1071 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 1: the legend of it that everybody involved in it prior 1072 01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 1: to his version is for the girls and the gays okay, period, 1073 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 1: and I know a lot of straight guys that watched 1074 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 1: that movie for the first time because of him. Okay. 1075 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 1: Then he makes a second movie about a gay icon 1076 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,880 Speaker 1: again for Oscar bait for straight people. 1077 01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:03,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1078 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,600 Speaker 1: I don't know who we made it for. He you know, 1079 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 1: left snoopy in the vestibule. He put on a fake nose. 1080 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean that to me. You know, he's not as 1081 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,320 Speaker 1: not as straight as one would assume, but like, yeah, 1082 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:20,280 Speaker 1: that's I think what I'm having such a bad reaction 1083 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 1: towards this movie because it's like. 1084 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 2: Now, I just those movies are also like almost camp, 1085 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:26,960 Speaker 2: they're almost bordering on damp. 1086 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:31,680 Speaker 1: Yes, again perfect a perfect way of saying it. This 1087 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:37,080 Speaker 1: recent film is just a super boring straight movie. It's 1088 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,880 Speaker 1: about like middle aged people getting divorce, okay, And it's 1089 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:45,439 Speaker 1: not even like a Nancy Meyers straight people movie, which 1090 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,560 Speaker 1: I would argue is actually kind of gay too, a 1091 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:54,280 Speaker 1: Nancy Myers movie, Right, So he's like not fun by 1092 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,040 Speaker 1: making this movie. At least we could find the camp 1093 01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 1: in those first two. I can't even find the camp 1094 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:05,000 Speaker 1: or joy or anything in this new one. And quite frankly, 1095 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna watch a movie about straight people getting 1096 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 1: a divorce. I just watched The Squid in the whil again, like, 1097 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,720 Speaker 1: of course you're gonna You've got like two precocious you 1098 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,680 Speaker 1: know boys in that movie too, Like it's basically a 1099 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,040 Speaker 1: better version of this movie at the end of the day. 1100 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 1: And there's no stand up plot, thank god. 1101 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:26,560 Speaker 2: So it is funny because this movie, and I'm loath 1102 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 2: to use this word, but it felt lazy. Yeah, it 1103 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 2: felt like there was like no research into the comedy world. 1104 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,000 Speaker 2: It felt like there was no real emotional research into 1105 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,439 Speaker 2: getting a divorce. It was kind of like it felt 1106 01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,840 Speaker 2: like an outsider perspective. I'm like, what getting a divorce 1107 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,040 Speaker 2: looks like, and even though I don't have any experience 1108 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,360 Speaker 2: with that in my life either, but it just it 1109 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 2: didn't feel lived in. And I think Maestro and a 1110 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 2: Star Is Born those felt the opposite of lazy. It 1111 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 2: felt like he went way above and beyond to get 1112 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 2: things done accurately and like make it feel lived in. 1113 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,640 Speaker 2: And I just didn't get that sense with this movie. Yeah, 1114 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,840 Speaker 2: you know, so I would say it's his worst movie. 1115 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,560 Speaker 2: And I don't know. I wonder if he got self 1116 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,640 Speaker 2: conscious after Maestro and he's like I have to do 1117 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:20,200 Speaker 2: a real straight movie or something. But like, I want 1118 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,160 Speaker 2: him to go back to what he did with the 1119 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,360 Speaker 2: first two movies because I legitimately like loved both of those. 1120 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:31,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, because they had moments of true bizarreness that I 1121 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,960 Speaker 1: weirdly appreciated. And I think you're right, the camp factor 1122 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:46,080 Speaker 1: is what made me appreciate both of them, right, even 1123 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,840 Speaker 1: the like I just wanted to get a good look 1124 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:54,440 Speaker 1: at you live. Yeah, Like even that is hilarious still 1125 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,800 Speaker 1: to me. And there's moments of that in both these 1126 01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,960 Speaker 1: you know, first two film I think I was amused by, 1127 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:06,560 Speaker 1: and I felt like this movie was just sort of boring. 1128 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:10,840 Speaker 2: And yeah, it's disappointing, Yeah, because I do like him 1129 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:14,440 Speaker 2: and I think he's interesting, and it's funny because you 1130 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,000 Speaker 2: couldn't quite let go of He's like, well, it has 1131 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,080 Speaker 2: to be about a performer. There has to be a 1132 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,000 Speaker 2: performance element to it, which like both of his all 1133 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,920 Speaker 2: of his movies include yeah, you know, the character as 1134 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,800 Speaker 2: a performer. But I just feel like it was really misguided. 1135 01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if like if we're again we're watching there's 1136 01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,760 Speaker 1: so many better movies about divorce that you could watch, 1137 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 1: so many if you're a middle aged guy out there 1138 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:39,920 Speaker 1: that's like, man, I don't know. I'm going through some 1139 01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,440 Speaker 1: hard times with my woman, and I don't know. I'm 1140 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,200 Speaker 1: thinking about making making a pivot. What should I watch? 1141 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 1: Watch literally anything but this, Like watch you know, Squint 1142 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,720 Speaker 1: in the Whale marriage story, you know, scenes from a marriage, Like, 1143 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. There's just so many movies about divorce 1144 01:05:55,640 --> 01:06:00,560 Speaker 1: that kind of are first in line before this one. Yeah. 1145 01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:01,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 1146 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,400 Speaker 1: And I feel bad saying this because you know, mostly 1147 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:08,320 Speaker 1: I do mostly positive people. We don't like hating things. 1148 01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,680 Speaker 2: But no, and I really and I think he's really talented, 1149 01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 2: and I really want him to make more movies. Like 1150 01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 2: I don't want him to stop making movies. It kind 1151 01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 2: of reminds me when we talked about the Materialists, Like 1152 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,280 Speaker 2: I was just like, it just feels off. It just 1153 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 2: is like you weren't playing in the right key signature 1154 01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,360 Speaker 2: or something. Yeah, just something is just wrong. And like 1155 01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,720 Speaker 2: I want you to get back to where you were before. 1156 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:34,560 Speaker 2: And because I like there's a quality to his films 1157 01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,320 Speaker 2: that feel very alive and I felt that a little 1158 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:38,280 Speaker 2: bit in is. 1159 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:38,880 Speaker 1: This thing on? 1160 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 2: But it just I don't know, it just it didn't 1161 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:44,080 Speaker 2: quite work. 1162 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 1: Bradley, I need you to move more towards the bos 1163 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:52,440 Speaker 1: Alartman end of the spectrum and not the Noah Bambbach 1164 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,080 Speaker 1: end of the spectrum. 1165 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,720 Speaker 2: Okay, I think he was trying to make a Judd 1166 01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:57,640 Speaker 2: Appatow movie. 1167 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:02,920 Speaker 1: Well, your real house is being insane, so let's just 1168 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,439 Speaker 1: go that way, Okay, dude. 1169 01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,720 Speaker 2: Well, I just think back to the interview he did 1170 01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:11,760 Speaker 2: about with Leonard Bernstein's children on sixty Minutes I think 1171 01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 2: it was, and they're like, what do you miss most 1172 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,040 Speaker 2: about him? And he answered first and he's never met 1173 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 2: the man. And I was like, Okay, that's so crazy 1174 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 2: that he did that, and I want that guy back. 1175 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes artists are out of touch with reality. 1176 01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think Prince was living in our 1177 01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,280 Speaker 2: world when he was making his music. You know, sometimes 1178 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,360 Speaker 2: artists are like that. And I don't want you. I 1179 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:40,200 Speaker 2: don't want to see your commentary on everyday life. 1180 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,640 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, it's hard to be in the middle. 1181 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:47,320 Speaker 1: You either got to be like real off the rip 1182 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,720 Speaker 1: or real underground. Yeah, big in the middle is weird. 1183 01:07:52,840 --> 01:08:06,520 Speaker 2: Anyways, that's our comvo about. Is this thing on? All right, Millie, 1184 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,400 Speaker 2: We're back we got some gripes, gropes and grats. Can 1185 01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:09,960 Speaker 2: you believe it? 1186 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:14,160 Speaker 1: I can't. Actually, this entire episode has been a one 1187 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:15,160 Speaker 1: big film gripe. 1188 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:22,240 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, we got some gropes in here. Consentuals. Okay, here's 1189 01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:26,280 Speaker 2: a gripe from Monica. Love your show. It is a 1190 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:30,479 Speaker 2: treasured part of my Tuesday routine. Oh, thank you. Not 1191 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,439 Speaker 2: sure if you've talked about this, but I feel Milly 1192 01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:38,559 Speaker 2: may have, considering she has definitely spoken about Southern accents before. 1193 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,479 Speaker 2: But my film gripe is when someone has a bad 1194 01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,960 Speaker 2: Southern accent, or if it's a misplaced Southern accent, like 1195 01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,800 Speaker 2: when it's set in Texas but someone sounds like they're 1196 01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,600 Speaker 2: from the Carolinas, it really takes me out of it 1197 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,560 Speaker 2: and I get so annoyed. I'm from Oklahoma originally, so 1198 01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 2: I can distinguish oak from Texan as well. But I'll 1199 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,840 Speaker 2: give that a little bit of a pass. Which also, 1200 01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,120 Speaker 2: thank you Millie for saying Oklahoma is South, but it's 1201 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,880 Speaker 2: a different kind of South. Loll because it's not. Because 1202 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,920 Speaker 2: it is, it's not Midwest anyways. That's a geography slash 1203 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,920 Speaker 2: region gripe for another day. Thank you so much again, 1204 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,200 Speaker 2: for being yourselves and adding so much fun to film. Monica, 1205 01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,280 Speaker 2: any thoughts about this, Millie dude? 1206 01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,120 Speaker 1: Of course, I've got on record about this several times. 1207 01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 1: Monica and I are completely aligned. As a Southern person, 1208 01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:30,080 Speaker 1: listening to bad Southern accents is like nails on shockboard. 1209 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:34,519 Speaker 1: It's like going to an open mic, honestly, and you're 1210 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:40,800 Speaker 1: absolutely right because you can't put somebody like Sissy Spacek 1211 01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:46,479 Speaker 1: who has a classic Texan accent next to Glorrilla or 1212 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,120 Speaker 1: something who is from Memphis, Tennessee and has a very 1213 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:56,360 Speaker 1: specific Memphis accent, right, Yeah, and even closer in proximity. 1214 01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,200 Speaker 1: It's like there's a difference between a Memphis accent and 1215 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:06,519 Speaker 1: a Atlanta accent, and there's a difference between those two 1216 01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,120 Speaker 1: and a Carolina's accent, like a North Carolina's accent. Right. 1217 01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:13,080 Speaker 1: So it's like, as a Southern person, you know this. 1218 01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,679 Speaker 1: Most other people, though, don't. Hollywood doesn't know that. They'll 1219 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,360 Speaker 1: just be like yo, talk about talk like cockleberry Hound. 1220 01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:21,680 Speaker 1: Then you'll be fine, and it's just yeah, it's a 1221 01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:26,439 Speaker 1: I've had that film Gripe forever. So Monica totally with you. 1222 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:32,439 Speaker 1: I propose, Monica, if you want to write back. Maybe 1223 01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:36,320 Speaker 1: we both come up with the three worst Southern accents 1224 01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,240 Speaker 1: in film history. Like this, we do like a top 1225 01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,160 Speaker 1: three list. You could do one, I can do one, 1226 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:46,160 Speaker 1: and we'll compare notes. I'll do it on the podcast. Well, 1227 01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:47,519 Speaker 1: I'm giving you time to think about that. 1228 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,439 Speaker 2: But right back, right back in Monica, we need to 1229 01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,679 Speaker 2: hear from you. Yeah, I want to say sort of similarly. 1230 01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:57,040 Speaker 2: It bugs me. You know, Minnesotan. That's a very specific accent. 1231 01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,840 Speaker 2: It is Midwestern, but it's a little bit more elongated. 1232 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:02,800 Speaker 2: But a lot of times in movies people will have 1233 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:07,479 Speaker 2: Minnesotans talking like Canadians. Yeah, like where they're like, sorry, sorry, 1234 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,920 Speaker 2: we don't talk like that, and or they'll make a 1235 01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,720 Speaker 2: Minnesotan sound like a Chicago guy. They're talking like a 1236 01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:17,920 Speaker 2: Chicago like that. It's a different accent and it's a 1237 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 2: confusing accent. But I noticed that as well, and so 1238 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,320 Speaker 2: it pisses me off. People don't care about these flyover 1239 01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:32,880 Speaker 2: states sometimes coastal elites. Yeah, unbelievable. Uh okay. I have 1240 01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:37,720 Speaker 2: a film group, grow Consensual. Here we go play in it. 1241 01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,560 Speaker 3: Hi, Millian Casey, my name is Tanner, and I have 1242 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,640 Speaker 3: a film group for you. I was reminded of this 1243 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:48,160 Speaker 3: when Casey brought up the movie Society in a discussion 1244 01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:49,920 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago. And you mean a Society 1245 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,280 Speaker 3: starring Love of my Life Billy Warlock bet are known 1246 01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,519 Speaker 3: as the son of Dick Warlock, actor who played Michael 1247 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:55,519 Speaker 3: Myers and Halloween two. 1248 01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,960 Speaker 1: Anyways, I digress. What I really love about that movie 1249 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:01,479 Speaker 1: is that it has some very. 1250 01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 3: Delightful practical effects, and I simply think it looks so 1251 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,519 Speaker 3: much better than a lot of CGI in used today, 1252 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,960 Speaker 3: which looks just kind of very tacky to me in 1253 01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:16,000 Speaker 3: a way that I find objectionable. So anyways, love a 1254 01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:17,720 Speaker 3: good practical effect, and I would love to hear what 1255 01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,160 Speaker 3: other films you guys like that have a notable use 1256 01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,680 Speaker 3: of practical effects. I don't know if you guys talked 1257 01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:26,479 Speaker 3: a bit about this in your episode on the Thing, 1258 01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,080 Speaker 3: but I would love to hear more of your thoughts. 1259 01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:32,920 Speaker 2: Oh Man, what a great question. Yeah, and I agree 1260 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,360 Speaker 2: obviously when we were talking about that in the Thing 1261 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,760 Speaker 2: that you can just see texturally that there's something going 1262 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,720 Speaker 2: on with a practical effect in a way, it has 1263 01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,960 Speaker 2: more soul, it has more texture to it than something 1264 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:49,040 Speaker 2: that's made from CGI. 1265 01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I talked about the brief millisecond of shittiness that 1266 01:12:56,280 --> 01:13:00,760 Speaker 1: happens before a practical effect goes off because there is 1267 01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,719 Speaker 1: no seamlessness, you know, as the way it is in CGI, 1268 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:08,839 Speaker 1: where a scene like immediately becomes another thing. Yeah, practical 1269 01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,479 Speaker 1: effects has like there has a physicality that has to happen. 1270 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:18,000 Speaker 1: So there's usually like a millisecond something of shittiness where 1271 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,400 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, there's a puppet coming out or whatever, 1272 01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:25,000 Speaker 1: like you know, the chest cavity has to open, uh, 1273 01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:30,640 Speaker 1: because it's manual and not you know digital. That is 1274 01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,840 Speaker 1: the joy of my life is that millisecond of shittiness 1275 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,720 Speaker 1: before practical effect pops off. It's so nice and it's 1276 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:42,840 Speaker 1: nostalgic and it like it's and then the sometimes in 1277 01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:47,360 Speaker 1: the the more b horror movies, that millisecond drags on 1278 01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:53,040 Speaker 1: into even longer millisecond and it's even better. So you know, 1279 01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:56,599 Speaker 1: I think, you know, when I think about practical effects, 1280 01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:01,000 Speaker 1: I really think about the early movies of TIM, Yeah, 1281 01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,600 Speaker 1: like Beetlejuice, especially where it's like there's a lot of 1282 01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:10,840 Speaker 1: clay mation, a lot of like prosthetics and just more 1283 01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,400 Speaker 1: artistryho goes into that and then it's like later movies. 1284 01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,879 Speaker 2: He's like, I love CGI. 1285 01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,000 Speaker 1: I think there was some interview where he's like, oh, 1286 01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,240 Speaker 1: I hate looking back on my old movies with like 1287 01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:21,559 Speaker 1: the bad special effects. 1288 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,519 Speaker 2: I love this CGI I'm able to use now. And 1289 01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, the stuff like Alice in Wonderland, that 1290 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 2: stuff looks like shit, the boot Willie Wonka. I just 1291 01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,439 Speaker 2: think that doesn't look as good as his older stuff. 1292 01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean that's kind of like one filmmaker. 1293 01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:40,280 Speaker 1: But honestly, the best practical effects alien early Yeah Cronenberg 1294 01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:44,280 Speaker 1: like scanners, Are you kidding me? Classic practical effects? I mean, 1295 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, even stuff like uh, you know, any kind 1296 01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,759 Speaker 1: of like eighties transformation movie like American were Wolf in London, 1297 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,439 Speaker 1: like all that kind of stuff, fantastic, like all like 1298 01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:59,920 Speaker 1: fun weird horror from the seventies and eighties like. 1299 01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:05,320 Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, there's one by Peter Jackson from nineteen ninety 1300 01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,160 Speaker 2: two called Dead Alive I believe it, or it's called 1301 01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,400 Speaker 2: brain Dead, and this is one of the most goopiest, 1302 01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,080 Speaker 2: most disgusting movies ever seen. But there's just so much 1303 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,200 Speaker 2: good stuff in there. Yeah, there's good practical effects. 1304 01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like, honestly, age for me. You know, 1305 01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,719 Speaker 1: like I grew up watching eighties and early nineties stuff, 1306 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,320 Speaker 1: so I was lucky. I grew up in the practical 1307 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,040 Speaker 1: effect age, and I was like, this is the shit. 1308 01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,519 Speaker 1: Like any science fiction or horror movie that I came 1309 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,200 Speaker 1: across was always practical. So I don't know, I was 1310 01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,360 Speaker 1: lucky in that way, but I have so many faves 1311 01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:38,960 Speaker 1: and I still, like I said, I still think they 1312 01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,600 Speaker 1: should do them, even though it's probably like cost prohibitive 1313 01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:45,280 Speaker 1: at this point, but and I still want to practical 1314 01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,880 Speaker 1: effects artists to come on the podcast. So if you're 1315 01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,280 Speaker 1: if you hook up, let's go. We got to talk 1316 01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:54,120 Speaker 1: to our booker, Patrick Cottoner. Yeah, find us a guy. 1317 01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's isn't it, Patrick Cottoner? 1318 01:15:58,920 --> 01:15:59,560 Speaker 2: Is that how you say it? 1319 01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:01,680 Speaker 1: That's that's how you say That's how you say it, 1320 01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:03,599 Speaker 1: Patrick Cottner, Patrick Cottner. 1321 01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,800 Speaker 2: Wow, he's gonna love that I'm mentioning him on this show. 1322 01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:13,240 Speaker 2: He's just gonna slurp this up. Okay. Another consensual film 1323 01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:19,759 Speaker 2: group from Emily from Minneapolis. Love that, Hi, Milian and Casey. 1324 01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,560 Speaker 2: There are character actors I love so much that I 1325 01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,280 Speaker 2: will see every movie they are in, regardless of genres, 1326 01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,639 Speaker 2: slash reviews, slash roll size, you get it. If John 1327 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,080 Speaker 2: Leguizamo is in a movie, I'm gonna see it. If 1328 01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,000 Speaker 2: Tony Klett is in a movie, I'm gonna see it. 1329 01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:36,320 Speaker 2: Not only are they insanely talented and transformative, they always 1330 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,880 Speaker 2: have great taste regarding the movies that they sign on to. 1331 01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:42,000 Speaker 2: So who are your must see actors and what movies 1332 01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,320 Speaker 2: made you fall in love with them? You both rock? 1333 01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:48,200 Speaker 2: Thanks for making me laugh every week, Millie. I was 1334 01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,080 Speaker 2: thinking about this recently. I don't have that many like 1335 01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:58,200 Speaker 2: gotta see actors working today. I would say Philip Seymour 1336 01:16:58,240 --> 01:16:59,439 Speaker 2: Hoffman used to be one. 1337 01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:04,439 Speaker 1: H I don't know. I mean Steve bu Chevy, like 1338 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:10,320 Speaker 1: that's that's a great one. You think Keanu is a 1339 01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,000 Speaker 1: character actor, No. 1340 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:13,599 Speaker 2: I guess he's not. He's a leading man. 1341 01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:18,559 Speaker 1: Well, and like to be real, I was a huge 1342 01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:25,280 Speaker 1: well I mean, I shouldn't say this. There have been 1343 01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:29,600 Speaker 1: times where I loved a character actor and then that 1344 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:33,360 Speaker 1: character actor became like a main guy and I was like, hm, 1345 01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,040 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like that's happened with Walton Goggins 1346 01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:37,760 Speaker 1: a little bit. 1347 01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:40,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, where I was like 1348 01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:43,720 Speaker 2: he's lost as bloom a little little bit. 1349 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,360 Speaker 1: And I mean I'm not even talking about somebody like 1350 01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,479 Speaker 1: Paul Giomanni, for example, who is like always going to 1351 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:51,679 Speaker 1: be a character actor but is the star of movies. 1352 01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:57,559 Speaker 1: Walton Goggins went from being like a creepy redneck guy 1353 01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,200 Speaker 1: to now being like kind of a haughty in things. Yeah, 1354 01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:05,240 Speaker 1: And I was like, huh, I don't know what do 1355 01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:08,439 Speaker 1: I feel about that? I mean, there's a lot. There's 1356 01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:11,200 Speaker 1: a lot of great character actors in there. Anytime I 1357 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,920 Speaker 1: see Donald Log in a movie, if he pops in 1358 01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:17,320 Speaker 1: a movie for two fucking seconds, I'm like, great movie. 1359 01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:18,519 Speaker 2: You know who? 1360 01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:18,920 Speaker 3: I like? 1361 01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:22,479 Speaker 1: Shaye Wigham, Yeah, love Shaye Wiggham, Fuck, I love that guy. 1362 01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,280 Speaker 1: Every time he pops in, I'm like, hell yeah, dude, 1363 01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,760 Speaker 1: great to have you here. Yeah. I mean there's so 1364 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:33,920 Speaker 1: many good ones. I love Margot Martindale, like rest in Peace, Queen, 1365 01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,960 Speaker 1: but Contrata Parrel. Anytime she was in a movie, I 1366 01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:37,559 Speaker 1: loved her. 1367 01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:41,400 Speaker 2: You know who's my main one? 1368 01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:43,960 Speaker 1: Right now? Do you know who this is? 1369 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,320 Speaker 2: A young woman, Ivy Woke? Do you know? Yes? 1370 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:49,719 Speaker 1: She was in Anora? 1371 01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,599 Speaker 2: Right, She's in Anora. She's in If I had legs 1372 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:58,360 Speaker 2: i'd kick you. Yeah, she's great. She plays like annoying 1373 01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,559 Speaker 2: young person really well. Yeah, and I love her. 1374 01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:07,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's great. You know, somebody made the case for 1375 01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:11,760 Speaker 1: John Carroll Lynch being the greatest dude and not just 1376 01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:15,440 Speaker 1: the creepy guy from Zodiac, which I very much appreciated. 1377 01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,640 Speaker 1: But you know, honestly, my favorite character actors are the 1378 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,040 Speaker 1: old school ones, like I mean, the most I think 1379 01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,640 Speaker 1: for me, my possibly my favorite character actor of all 1380 01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,160 Speaker 1: time is Timothy Carey. And I don't really know if 1381 01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:32,600 Speaker 1: many of y'all know who he is. He was in 1382 01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:37,640 Speaker 1: quite a few Stanley Kubrick films, like most notably he 1383 01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:42,439 Speaker 1: was in Paths of Glory and The Killing. He was 1384 01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:46,320 Speaker 1: in a lot of Cassavetti's films, and he ended up 1385 01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:50,280 Speaker 1: making his own movie self financed, called The World's Greatest Center, 1386 01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,160 Speaker 1: which is like one of the weirdest movies I've ever 1387 01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,920 Speaker 1: seen in my life. To me, he is a perfect 1388 01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,280 Speaker 1: character actor. Just like he comes on screen, he's fucked 1389 01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,559 Speaker 1: up for like ten fifteen minutes, and then he goes 1390 01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:02,400 Speaker 1: away and then you're just like, well, I want him 1391 01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:04,160 Speaker 1: to come back. I don't know what happened there. 1392 01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,560 Speaker 2: Well, Timothy Carries an interesting one too, because he I 1393 01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,800 Speaker 2: feel like good character actors also have like a like 1394 01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,439 Speaker 2: they're weird people in light in life too, like they 1395 01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:18,720 Speaker 2: almost like stumbled into acting kind of as an afterthought. Yeah, 1396 01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:22,680 Speaker 2: you know, and he had there was something where he 1397 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:26,000 Speaker 2: was like really disruptive on the movie Paths of Glory. 1398 01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like that was like he was like an 1399 01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:30,280 Speaker 1: absolute maniac. 1400 01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh he faked his own kidnapping to generate personal publicity, 1401 01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:41,400 Speaker 2: which prompted Kubrick to fire him. So he's he was 1402 01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:42,240 Speaker 2: fired halfway through. 1403 01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:46,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's an absolute maniac. I also, of 1404 01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,479 Speaker 1: course would be remissive. I mentioned John Cazal, who was 1405 01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:51,880 Speaker 1: a character actor that happened to be in like five 1406 01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:55,200 Speaker 1: incredible you know, classic films. 1407 01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, he's in five movies and they're like 1408 01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,400 Speaker 2: in the top twenty five greatest films of all time. Yeah. 1409 01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:03,920 Speaker 1: But like all of my favorite actors are pretty much 1410 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,800 Speaker 1: character I just like Warren Oates. I mean I could 1411 01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:10,439 Speaker 1: go down the list of you know, William H. Macy, 1412 01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, like Michael Parks, like even people from like 1413 01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,800 Speaker 1: classic Hollywood, like a Sterling Hayden or a Robert Ryan 1414 01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,519 Speaker 1: or something like that. You know, I like, to me, 1415 01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:28,240 Speaker 1: I think that they're just more interesting, and you know, 1416 01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:32,800 Speaker 1: like for every Bradley Cooper, there's going to be some 1417 01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:36,360 Speaker 1: absolute fucking weirdo that's kind of like popping into a 1418 01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:40,840 Speaker 1: scene and stealing the show, you know, And I don't know, Yeah, 1419 01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm just that person. 1420 01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:47,120 Speaker 2: It's time for employees' picks. Yeah, film recommendations based on 1421 01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:48,880 Speaker 2: the theme of the discussion. Really, what do you got 1422 01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:49,559 Speaker 2: for us today? 1423 01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:53,639 Speaker 1: Well? I couldn't. I couldn't honestly figure this one out. 1424 01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,720 Speaker 1: This week. I was like, Okay, what am I going 1425 01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,400 Speaker 1: to recommend based on a movie that I pretty much 1426 01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:03,960 Speaker 1: disliked the entire time? Sure, but then I decided that 1427 01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:07,479 Speaker 1: I was going to go in this direction, which is like, 1428 01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:14,599 Speaker 1: what's a movie about a guy that follows a sort 1429 01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:21,000 Speaker 1: of self involved pursuit and then ends up getting his 1430 01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:25,280 Speaker 1: wife or girlfriend back? M hm. And then I was like, 1431 01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,919 Speaker 1: it's got to be high fidelity from two thousand. 1432 01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:31,800 Speaker 2: Sure, I beloved I love that movie. 1433 01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:35,760 Speaker 1: Well, and it's like in that similar way, which is 1434 01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:40,599 Speaker 1: kind of like I'm I'm on the rocks with my lady. 1435 01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:44,920 Speaker 1: How am I going to process it? I'm going to 1436 01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,960 Speaker 1: do something that's kind of like self indulgent in Navel Gaizy, 1437 01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,720 Speaker 1: which is, I'm going to start a record label and 1438 01:22:52,240 --> 01:23:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, put out music by kids, and maybe in 1439 01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:06,479 Speaker 1: some way that's gonna entice my woman back, And in 1440 01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:11,000 Speaker 1: fact it does, yeah, because it shows some like weird 1441 01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:12,360 Speaker 1: admitiative or something. 1442 01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:16,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, But that High Fidility does such a better job 1443 01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:21,559 Speaker 2: of explaining why I'm I follow the logic of High 1444 01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,760 Speaker 2: Fidelity much better than Yes is this? 1445 01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:28,919 Speaker 1: Whereas because that movie is literally all about the details, 1446 01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,360 Speaker 1: that's the complete opposite approach, which is basically like, do 1447 01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:36,240 Speaker 1: you want a minute by minute play back of the 1448 01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:40,360 Speaker 1: highs and lows of my relationship? And this is exactly 1449 01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,960 Speaker 1: why we broke up. It becomes very clear as to 1450 01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:47,519 Speaker 1: why they're not supposed to be together versus Bradley's Mooth. 1451 01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:51,519 Speaker 1: It was just no no explanation whatsoever. But you know 1452 01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:53,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, you can see why I'm linking 1453 01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:54,559 Speaker 1: these two movies together. 1454 01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,960 Speaker 2: Sure, yes, I totally can. I also think High Fidility 1455 01:23:57,960 --> 01:23:59,719 Speaker 2: does a better job because I feel like the movie 1456 01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,960 Speaker 2: it's self is saying Rob the main character is a 1457 01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:07,800 Speaker 2: fucking idiot and isn't and I feel like the is 1458 01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,000 Speaker 2: this thing on is kind of like, well, this guy's 1459 01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,800 Speaker 2: kind of cool, Like what he's doing is cool. 1460 01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,840 Speaker 1: Well, it's like, but I always am gonna argue. Okay, 1461 01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,720 Speaker 1: think about the gender reversal of this. Okay, this would 1462 01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,639 Speaker 1: this would be tantamount to a woman and her husband 1463 01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,720 Speaker 1: are getting a divorce and he's not in love with 1464 01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:32,400 Speaker 1: her anymore, so she opens an Etsy shop and then 1465 01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,719 Speaker 1: he's like, I love you again, Let's get back together. 1466 01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,519 Speaker 1: Isn't that what we're talking about. It's the same conceit. 1467 01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,120 Speaker 1: It's basically like, oh, I'm gonna do something that is 1468 01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:46,280 Speaker 1: just like so like I'm gonna have my own personal 1469 01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:51,520 Speaker 1: mode of discovery via something that is very self indulgent, 1470 01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:55,679 Speaker 1: and then that somehow woos my ex back into my arms. 1471 01:24:57,320 --> 01:25:01,840 Speaker 1: Or I'm gonna be a pilates teacher and my husband's like, 1472 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:05,600 Speaker 1: what I just saw you teach a class out of 1473 01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:10,120 Speaker 1: the window of your Plotius studio and like, now I 1474 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,479 Speaker 1: love you again. It's the same thing, and I'm like, 1475 01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:20,800 Speaker 1: Hollywood is never making that movie. So anyway, good, you 1476 01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:24,599 Speaker 1: gotta get me off this microphone by saying oh now. 1477 01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,840 Speaker 2: Okay, well okay, mine sort of I also had like 1478 01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:29,680 Speaker 2: a hard time following, like, oh, what should I what 1479 01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,479 Speaker 2: kind of movie should I recommend? And I'm going with 1480 01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,680 Speaker 2: the more positive spin on the movie, which is that 1481 01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:38,200 Speaker 2: I think it's cool to learn something new and become 1482 01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:42,320 Speaker 2: a part of a new community and humble yourself before 1483 01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:47,080 Speaker 2: that community in order to enter that community and finding yourself, 1484 01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,519 Speaker 2: like finding out about yourself, entering into kind of a 1485 01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:56,080 Speaker 2: new thing. And I'm recommending two thousand and nine's Whip 1486 01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:59,920 Speaker 2: It directed by Drew Barrymore her only movies she ever directed. 1487 01:25:59,960 --> 01:26:05,200 Speaker 2: It's about roller Derby and Elliott Page entering into the 1488 01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,840 Speaker 2: roller Derby and finding themselves in that. 1489 01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:09,559 Speaker 1: Uh. 1490 01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:13,280 Speaker 2: And I liked that movie. I thought it was really 1491 01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:16,479 Speaker 2: cute and fun and I haven't seen it in a 1492 01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:20,240 Speaker 2: long time. But there's a speech that Juliette Lewis gives 1493 01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,760 Speaker 2: where Julie Lewis is like, do you know how old 1494 01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,160 Speaker 2: I was before I found this is my thing? Roller 1495 01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:27,960 Speaker 2: Derby's my thing? Do you know how old I was 1496 01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:31,360 Speaker 2: when I found out found my thing? 1497 01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:35,160 Speaker 1: I was thirty five? And in the movie it's like, WHOA, 1498 01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,840 Speaker 1: that's old. But obviously I'm older than that now, and 1499 01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not old. Ain't that funny? 1500 01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:42,320 Speaker 2: Not funny? But anyways, I enjoyed that movie. 1501 01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,920 Speaker 4: I thought it was fun and I Drew, get off 1502 01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:48,160 Speaker 4: the damn couch start directing some more movies. 1503 01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to call up Bradley and be like, 1504 01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,160 Speaker 1: wh where's the money you're getting? Can I have something? 1505 01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,599 Speaker 2: Yeah? That's right. 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The show would be really wonderful to 1523 01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:50,240 Speaker 1: get five stars. 1524 01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:54,559 Speaker 2: And yeah, that's that amazing, Millie. What are we talking 1525 01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:55,360 Speaker 2: about next week? 1526 01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:59,559 Speaker 1: We're talking about this movie that I've actually never seen before, 1527 01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:05,560 Speaker 1: I know, and I'm making up for lost time. I 1528 01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:08,760 Speaker 1: have no idea why we're watching this movie. I think 1529 01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,800 Speaker 1: is it a wait? Is it a I think it's 1530 01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:13,720 Speaker 1: an anniversary. 1531 01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:17,360 Speaker 2: Hold on, it's technically an anniversary, but also the NBA 1532 01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:22,000 Speaker 2: playoffs are starting soon, and it kind of lines up 1533 01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:22,200 Speaker 2: with that. 1534 01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:25,360 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's I think that's exactly why we picked it. 1535 01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,880 Speaker 1: I couldn't remember why, but we are going to watch 1536 01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:31,720 Speaker 1: Space Jam from nineteen eighty six, and I'm sure my 1537 01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,960 Speaker 1: mind is going to be completely fucking blown. Now. 1538 01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:39,080 Speaker 2: This is the movie I saw in theaters and when 1539 01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:44,680 Speaker 2: it was done, I remember thinking, well, that's going to 1540 01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:46,280 Speaker 2: win the Best Picture for the Academy. 1541 01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,439 Speaker 1: I think that's something you said on a very early 1542 01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:54,040 Speaker 1: podcast that I laughed about it for weeks after you 1543 01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:54,360 Speaker 1: said it. 1544 01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:58,280 Speaker 2: How could it not? Why wouldn't Why wouldn't that win 1545 01:28:58,960 --> 01:28:59,639 Speaker 2: Best Picture? 1546 01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:05,120 Speaker 1: That's so goddamn funny. Oh boy, yep. 1547 01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:09,120 Speaker 2: Anyways, Millie, thanks for laying it all out there with 1548 01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:09,680 Speaker 2: this movie. 1549 01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,479 Speaker 1: God, I feel like I've been so negative. I need 1550 01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,040 Speaker 1: to go be positive, put positivity in the world. 1551 01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,400 Speaker 2: It was negative in the service of our love for 1552 01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:22,479 Speaker 2: Bradley Cooper, because we love Bradley Cooper and we support him. 1553 01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:26,160 Speaker 1: I don't support it making movies. 1554 01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:33,280 Speaker 2: That's fine, a slight misstep, but we look forward. Well, 1555 01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:37,160 Speaker 2: we'll review every single movie he makes for the end 1556 01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:37,479 Speaker 2: of time. 1557 01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:45,320 Speaker 1: All right, people, see you soon, Bye bye. This has 1558 01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:48,960 Speaker 1: been an exactly right production hosted by me Millie to 1559 01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:52,200 Speaker 1: Cerco and produced by my co host Casey O'Brien. 1560 01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:56,160 Speaker 2: This episode was mixed by Tom Bryfogel. Our associate producer 1561 01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:59,560 Speaker 2: is Christina Chamberlain, our guest booker is Patrick Cottner, and 1562 01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:01,559 Speaker 2: our work is by Vanessa Ilac. 1563 01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,600 Speaker 1: Our incredible theme music is by the best band in 1564 01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:06,520 Speaker 1: the entire world, The Softies. 1565 01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:10,720 Speaker 2: Thank you to our executive producers Karen Kilgareff, Georgia Hardstark, 1566 01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,240 Speaker 2: Daniel Kramer and Millie to Jerico. 1567 01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:13,720 Speaker 3: We love you. 1568 01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,600 Speaker 1: Goodbye, Beker