1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: Here we go, Hour two. We got Dave Roberts on today, 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: Dan Hurley, just stop by, Carlos Boozer, Joel Flatz around 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: the corner. Yankees open the season with a seven to 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: nothing win over Logan Webb. Aaron Judge zero for five, 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: struck out four times, is the only Yankee not to 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: reach base, and they rolled a lot of singles. Bottom 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: of the order for the Yankees hit great. So one 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: of the advantage. One of the advantages I think that 16 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: pro leagues if they use it, is that, for instance, 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: like in base you have a minor league system, use 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: it and so you can the pitch clock. They experimented 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 1: for years with a pitch clock in the minor leagues, 20 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: the ABS system, balls and strike system which the pitcher, 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: the catcher or the batter can initiate tap it on 22 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: the head, not the manager. It can be those three 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: and so San Francisco didn't use any of THEIRS last night. 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: The first one was a Yankee challenge. It was first pitch, 25 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: like the fourth inning, and it's very quick. It's like 26 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: the Hawkeye in tennis. It's very quick. They put it 27 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: on the board, the fans can watch. And I got 28 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: to give Rob Manfred credit. This game was slow pondering 29 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: four years ago. It's cool, it's fun, it's watchable, it's quick, 30 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: and I thought this was really good. It's really fast, 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: and the fans can watch the replay up on the board, 32 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: and I think it's another you got. Every team gets 33 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: two challenges. If you go to extra innings, you get 34 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: other challenges. And if you have a challenge and you 35 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: get it right, you get to keep your challenge. I 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: like it. San Francisco did not use THEIRS, but it's 37 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: I wish the NBA would do some tweaking. I mean, 38 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: nobody wants to watch eighty three point shots. Nobody wants 39 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: to watch the last two and a half minutes of 40 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: an NBA game. Take thirty minutes like tweak and Rob 41 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: Manford got some heat. But every one of these tweaks 42 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: has worked and that abs system, balls and strike system. 43 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: I thought it was very effective, very quick. The Giants 44 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: did not use any of theirs, and their manager talked 45 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: about that. 46 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: I would have never predicted that we would have played 47 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: the entire game and had not used two. And then 48 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: on the other one. I only used the restroom one 49 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 3: time tonight, and it happened to be the time I 50 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: was supposed to be doing a Netflix interview. I was 51 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: a little more concerned with the score being five to 52 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: nothing at the time than being at that spot, with 53 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: all due respect, and so I was trying to make 54 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: sure my belt was buckled and I came up with 55 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: some I didn't sound I sounded dumber than usual during 56 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 3: that thing. So as I returned, that's when it had happened. 57 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you got to the modern attention span 58 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: has limitations. Baseball figured it out. NBA has gotten very repetitious. 59 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: I like the playoffs, but I think all these moves 60 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: are making. They're just fast, they're quick. You can use 61 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: the minor league system. I've always said this, the NBA 62 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: should use college basketball and be an ally and anything 63 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: you can experiment with see if you can have a 64 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: deal with college basketball. Baseball brilliantly uses their minor league 65 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: system to experiment. They experimented in the minor leagues and 66 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: it came off without a hitch last night. It was great. 67 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: Joel Klatt is now joining US is weeks away from 68 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. He's got his market. We'll get to 69 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: that in a second. By the way, you're calling UFL 70 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: games this weekend, which Rick Neuheisel's now coaching, ted Gin 71 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: Junior is now coaching. I see they implemented a new rule, 72 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: which I don't know what to make of it, the 73 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: four points for a sixty yard field goal. But I 74 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: think one of the things about the UFL that I 75 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: mentioned yesterday, forty six guys that aron rosters played in 76 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: the NFL. Did you notice last year, especially to me 77 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: at quarterback, receiver, back, corner, all lines, I still think 78 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: the best guys are going playing on Sundays. What did 79 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: you make of the quality of play last year? I 80 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: think that it's increased every single year I've done this. 81 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: This is going to be my fifth year call in 82 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: spring football. I remember it came back as USFL and 83 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: there was a merger with the XFL, and now we've 84 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: got the UFL well over those five years goals well 85 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: leading into this fifth year. Every year the ball gets better, 86 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: it just does, and the coaching gets better. The entire 87 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: strategy of the game because it's a little different with 88 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: the rule changes, gets better. And all the coaches that 89 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: I've talked to I just talked with Rick new Heizel 90 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: and Kevin Someman and others throughout the league, they've said 91 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: this same thing, that they've got real players that have 92 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: been in NFL camp since and that this is the 93 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: best that the league has ever looked heading into a 94 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: season from a play standpoint. But I would also just 95 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: echo one of the things that you were just talking 96 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: about with the ABS system, which you're exactly right. This 97 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: is why minor league baseball is so advantageous to the 98 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: big leagues is because they can try things out. The 99 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,119 Speaker 1: pitch clock has been outstanding. This come from a former 100 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: minor league baseball player, Like I love baseball. It had 101 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: become so painfully slow. Yeah, you know, five hour playoff games. 102 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: So you do all of that and test all of 103 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: that in minor league baseball. Well, that's kind of what 104 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: the UFL has become. For the NFL. Yes, and they've 105 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: gotten to test some things. This is where we originally 106 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: saw the new kickoff rule, which then was adopted by 107 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: the NFL. You bring up the four point field goal listen, 108 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: giving someone four points for kicking a sixty plus yard 109 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: field goal is just cool, and so we're going to see, 110 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, if that can happen. I just think that's cool. 111 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: What I think is a bigger change that we'll see 112 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: in the UFL. This here, which which all the coaches 113 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: have talked about being highly impactful, is this no punts 114 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: once you cross the fifty. Let's think about that. Now, 115 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: that becomes a totally different sequence of events. You can 116 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: no longer have a defensive player. You know, you get 117 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: to stop by a foot on third and seven, and 118 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: the balls on the plus forty yard line, they're all 119 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: holding up their fists, like Ford, we did it. Fourth down, 120 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: we did it. It's like, no, you didn't, No, you didn't. 121 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: Now you're going to have to stop before down. That's 122 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: going to be a highly impactful play, and I'm very 123 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: interested to see how that affects the entirety of the 124 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: game and the feel of the game moving forward. I 125 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: think that one's going to be really interesting. Okay, let's talk. 126 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: Let's talk draft here. I do think that Jets. I 127 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: think he's going to get drafted Ty Simpson in the 128 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart space. And I think only one team showed 129 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: up yesterday to the And I talked to a couple 130 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: of execs. Only one team showed up to the pro 131 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: day because the gms in that fifteen to twenty one space, 132 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: they don't want to show their hand. They're like not 133 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: interested because what's going to happen is like a Pittsburgh's 134 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: going to have to move up to fifteen, and they 135 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: don't want anybody think. They want everybody to think they 136 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: love Will Howard. Aaron's coming back, so they you know, 137 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: they may have to jump ahead of the Jets. I 138 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: do think he's a franchise quarterback. Do you feel when 139 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: you watch the film on Ty Simpson? Does he feel 140 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: like a first round quarterback. 141 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 4: This year? 142 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: He does. Remember every you can't just say first round 143 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: or because your ability to be in the first round 144 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 1: is completely dependent on who's being drafted around you. For instance, 145 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: Colin the last two weeks on my show, I gave 146 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: you a mock draft, which was a traditional mock draft. 147 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: Then the next week I did an all college football Draft. 148 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: As if anybody that played college football was eligible for 149 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: this year's draft, what would it look like. You know, 150 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: who are the quarterbacks taking. Mendoza has still taken, Jeremiah 151 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: Smith has taken. Maybe Julian's saying that's where you would 152 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: maybe not be a first rounder if you were Ty 153 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: Simpson just based on some of the play, in particular 154 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: in the games that he struggled in last year. Having 155 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: said that, here's what I'll say about Ty Simpson. He's 156 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: not the biggest guy, but Colin, this guy makes really 157 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: big throws. I am so impressed with him every time 158 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: I turn on the tape, with what he does attacking 159 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: the defense outside the numbers and down the field. And 160 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: that's really what the NFL is looking for. He is 161 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: a tough, sturdy quarterback that can make all the throws 162 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: and those guys just don't grow on trees. I think 163 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: he makes good decisions. I'm very impressed with him. I 164 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: think he's a good leader. My biggest knock would be 165 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: his lack of experience. Because I'm a big believer, and 166 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 1: I've said this countless times on your show. I think 167 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: in order to have real success in the NFL, as 168 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: a quarterback, You've got to have a lot of experience 169 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: in college. Did you know that the two quarterbacks that 170 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: started the fewest number of games in this century to 171 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl the fewest college start Sir Sam 172 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: Darnold and Tom Brady, both in the mid twenties. I mean, 173 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: that should tell you something about what you need moving forward, 174 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: and he just doesn't have that being a one year starter. Okay, 175 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: So I remember years ago this, I'll go back. This 176 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: is fifteen years ago. I had this discussion with somebody. 177 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: I liked high school recruiting. Now with a transfer panal, 178 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: I pay a little less attention to it. It's not 179 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: as valuable. They all transfer out. But one of the 180 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: things I noticed was that when you went and got 181 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: one of these five star high school kids who was 182 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: kind of positionless. He was just kind of a big, 183 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: strong high school kid. He could play a receiver, rush 184 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: in the hit rate was much lower than it should 185 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: be for other five star guys who are absolutely receivers 186 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: or tight ends or a quarterback. Is they just taken 187 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: the talented kid who mauls high schoolers. It's different. And 188 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: I look at Rvel Reeves, this is pro football, and 189 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: if he goes to the Jets, I don't trust the 190 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: Jets coaching. There was a guy years ago that went 191 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: to Arizona, Isaiah Simmons out of Clemson went to Arizona, 192 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: I mean just a free what was his position? Like, 193 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 1: I don't think you can learn to play something in 194 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: the NFL now rvel rees is so. I think if 195 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: he went to Brian Flores, you know, the DC for 196 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: the Vikings, I'm like, yeah, he would work. If he 197 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: went to Mike McDonald and Seattle, I'm like yeah, or 198 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: Robert Slam there are guys I think he would absolutely, 199 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: But I worry about rvel Reese going to the Jets, 200 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: where he may be on his second staff his second year, 201 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: he doesn't yet have a position. Are my concerns legitimate 202 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: or is he just so good it'll work? 203 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: Listen. 204 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: I I think that there's some level of truth in 205 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: what you're saying. However, I do think that it's different. 206 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: It's different for a position players as opposed to a quarterback. 207 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: I talked about the need for experience for a quarterback. 208 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: I think that that can almost be different for a 209 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: position player. You don't need the experience necessarily, and in fact, 210 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: it could show you some level of upside that is 211 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: not yet reached if a guy hasn't played a lot 212 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: of football or restarted for one year at Ohio State, 213 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: and and Matt Patricia was just just shaving, you know, 214 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg, if you will, with what 215 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: he could do. You know, he starts as an off 216 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: the ball linebacker with sunny styles, and then it's like, man, 217 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: can he can blitz really well? And he can he 218 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: can play off the edge really well. I personally believe, 219 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: and I know this is high praise. I think he 220 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: is a Micah Parsons in waiting. Somebody say, because of 221 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: what I'm talking, you know, because of what he can 222 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: do in so many different areas. He can cover in space, 223 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,359 Speaker 1: he can rush the quarterback, he can play traditional inside linebacker, 224 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: he can rush in the interior, on the blitz, he 225 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: can bind, he can do all of these things. Does 226 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: that take a smart, well rounded defensive coordinator. Yeah, to 227 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: your point, I think it does. And fit always matters 228 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: regardless of who you are. Having said that, you got 229 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: a guy that hasn't even played edge rusher for one 230 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: full season in his life, and he's that good. It's like, 231 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like, imagine what he could be if 232 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: he gets some level of refinement even at just that 233 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: one position as as an edge rusher or an outside 234 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: linebacker and a stand up position. So I think he 235 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: could be really dynamic. Again, I think he's Micah Parsons waiting, 236 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: waiting to happen. So another Ohio State players fascinating. I 237 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: keep saying, I have this vibe that Caleb Downs is 238 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: going to go to the Cowboys and people say, well, 239 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: i'd be careful. I told him, okay, yeah, you let's see. 240 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, look at that boom. You got him going 241 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: at twelve. So I feel like at the start of 242 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: the year, we all agreed, this guy's this guy is 243 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: like Kyle Hamilton, maybe even better, like he's a And 244 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: then by the end of the year, and maybe it's 245 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: because of the ascension of Sunny Styles and other players 246 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: that like, we've just forgotten about Caleb Downs, Like he's 247 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: he's like the fifth Buckeye And I'm like, now, I 248 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: think the start of the year he was number two 249 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: behind the Jeremiah Smith. We were like, Jeremiah and Caleb 250 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: are the best players. I think I think very few 251 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: players in this draft will be underdrafted. I think almost 252 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: like Bain's going to be a little overdrafted. It's an 253 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: average draft. If Caleb Downs drops to twelve, it's like, oh, 254 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: that's a mistake by the To me, I feel like 255 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: he is a start day one Pro bowler year two 256 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: am I one hundred percent, No, you're not wrong at all. 257 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: In fact that like we are in total lockstep on this. 258 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: If you look at last year in college football and 259 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: you said, who's the smartest defender in the country, Caleb Downs. 260 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: Who's the most impactful defender in the country, Caleb Downs? 261 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: And we've forgotten about that because we all it'say and 262 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: don't value the safety position. You know, from an NFL perspective, 263 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: it's like, well, to take a guy high, he's got 264 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: to be a corner or an edge rusher or these 265 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: these fancy, you know, sexy positions that we talk about 266 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: on the edges. But the bottom line is is that 267 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: this defense for two years was largely the best defense 268 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: in college football, and it was wholly built for and 269 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: around Caleb Downs. Yes, the entire structure of the defense 270 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: was because number two is on the field. That's and 271 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: that is no joe with all of those guys with 272 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: Sonny Styles on the field first round, with rvel Reese 273 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: on the field first round, or with Cayden McDonald the 274 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: defensive tackle on the field potential first round, or maybe 275 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: right at the back end of the first round, early 276 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: second The entire structure of the defense was for Caleb 277 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: Downs to get him near the football more, not Rvel Rees, 278 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: not Sunny Styles, No, no, no, Caleb Downs. He and 279 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: and I think we forget that. And then he's not 280 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton's size, so then so then he gets diminished. 281 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: I've heard, man, I gotta tell you, they're my least 282 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: favorite part of this process. I'm going to get myself 283 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: in trouble. That's fine, whatever is hearing. NFL decision makers 284 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: just get on their high horse and they serve it well. 285 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: In our league. He's just not big enough. And I'm like, hey, man, 286 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: y'all stupid because this guy is a football playing Jesse 287 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: and he will I mean think about to Ryan Matthew, 288 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: you know, and and what he was able to Like, 289 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: undersized guys can succeed. Oh, he is going to succeed. 290 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: He's going to be an All Pro. He's going to 291 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: be the face of a franchise if Dallas. If he's 292 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: there for Dallas at twelve, with the way they're past delayed, 293 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: a second pick, a second pick in the first round 294 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: where they can get another corner probably is pretty good. 295 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: By the way, like sign me up. So I just 296 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm not going I'm doubling down on that. If he 297 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: goes twelve, that would be a huge coup for the Cowboys. Yeah, 298 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: the let me look at your mock draft again. You 299 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: know the guy, the the Miami guys are all good, 300 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: but it's like, uh, yeah, the tackle can play guard. 301 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: Bain's got short arms. Whatever. I think Bain's gonna get 302 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get drafted by the Bengals. So 303 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: you're seeing up right now if you're watching, I've got 304 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: him to the Bengals. Obviously they've got to need it. 305 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: Ag they lost Hendrickson, so they need a pass rusher. Yeah, 306 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: they've got to need an edge. And and I just 307 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: keep coming back to, like, in the biggest moments of 308 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: the season, what did you do when you were playing 309 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: the best teams and players that you faced, and like 310 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: Bain and Francis Maui, Noah and some of these Miami 311 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: guys dominated the playoff at the line of scrimmage. I 312 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: guess I think that there's something to that. You know 313 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: you have no I mean I Miami first of all, 314 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: the Miami in the game is one of the best 315 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: college football games I've seen in twenty years. I thought 316 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: it was just what's great? I thought it was just unbelievable. 317 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: But I mean, Miami was built around physicality. And when 318 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: you can play Indiana, a great team, and I can 319 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: notice your physicality where you're pushing Indiana guys around, it's 320 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: like okay, then you're yeah, yeah, baying something else? 321 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 5: All right? 322 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,239 Speaker 2: What is it? 323 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: By the way, why why do people think like Mendoza 324 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: is just a product of a light draft, like Fernando 325 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: Mendoza Colin. This is what drives me nuts. I just can't. 326 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: I can't stand it. These guys get on and want 327 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: to nitpick, and it's like, Okay, you got your five 328 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: minutes of fame because you criticized the number one pick 329 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: in the draft. Watch what he does in critical moments, 330 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: third down on the road, light in games. That's all 331 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: that we should be measuring. I don't listen to be 332 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: candid with you. I do not care what you do 333 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: on second and eight from the minus thirty, Like I 334 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: don't care, I really don't. Oh, I care what happens 335 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: on third down Layton games. What are you when your 336 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: best is needed? And Fernando Mendoza wasn't just good. He 337 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: was great in those moments, every time on the road 338 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: at Iowa, on the road at Oregon, on the road 339 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: of Penn State, in the Big Ten championship game, throughout 340 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: the playoffs against Miami, in that physical game running. I mean, 341 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: Mendoza is a really great player. He's he's the number 342 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: one pick, and I'm really I get really frustrated when 343 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: I hear all this nitpick. It's like, good for you, 344 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: you can criticize what's clearly the number one pick in 345 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: the draft. Good for you. Well, he's a thicker, stronger 346 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan with Daniel Jones deceptive athleticism and the aggressive 347 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: and toughness of Andrew Luck whatever that is hand Land 348 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: and the football nerddom of Kirk Cousins. Yeah, kind of nerdy. 349 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: I like it. Well, personality is a trait, and he's 350 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: got a perfect personality, humble, great, sure and owns his personality, 351 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: has no problem with it, like loves his teammates, loves 352 00:18:55,640 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: his teammates. Yeah, I got a little mendoza. I love 353 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: my I'm easy to play with, love my teammate. Okay, 354 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: give me one. I want to give me one UFL player. 355 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: Give me one UFL player to watch. Oh gosh, let's see. 356 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in Tyler Vaughn's wide receiver on 357 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: the outside from from Dallas. I'll have him on Saturday. 358 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: I think that's that's a really good one. And then 359 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, for for my this Austin Reid, the quarterback 360 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: that we're going to see this weekend. I'm excited to 361 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 1: see him. And one of the things that we're going 362 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: to see is that the mobile quarterback in the UFL 363 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: is always a little bit more valuable. And so those 364 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: are some players that I'm looking at that I think 365 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: could have a big impact on this week's game. And 366 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: and we'll see how it how it goes. Good Senior Claster, 367 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: you as you as well. Man, Always love love seeing 368 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: you have a good one, all right, Dan Hurley, Joel Klatt, 369 00:19:55,560 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: Carlos Spooser, Dave Roberts Later, good show, Matt Crell. Quarterbacks 370 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: in this league got a nice arm, a little small 371 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: good arm. Yeah, the It is funny about personality to 372 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: me as a trait when you're getting drafted, I trade 373 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: his size, arm, athleticism, toughness is a trade, and there's 374 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: you know, everybody's looking for comps. I think Tom Telesco, 375 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: the former Vegas GM, was the first one to throw 376 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: out Matt Ryan, and I think it's I think Matt 377 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: Ryan chugged a bunch of water right before the weigh 378 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: in at the combine because he came in a little 379 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: heavier than he is. Because I saw him at ESPN's 380 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: campus and he's he was thin. That was my one 381 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: of my first things. He's tall and thin, and then 382 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: he weighed a little bit more, you know, I think, 383 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: and he got bigger, stronger, a little thicker. In the NFL, 384 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,479 Speaker 1: I think Fernando Mendoza could easily put on weight and 385 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: he's he's just a bigger, more natural two thirty five 386 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: with a I think he's got a pretty good arm 387 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: and he's super aggressive downfield, which means you're gonna throw 388 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: some picks. You're gonna have some bad throws in the NFL. 389 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: A lot of the NFL for quarterbacks is a can 390 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: you see the field? He can and are you willing 391 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: to let it rip. You know, in college, the college coaches, 392 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: you know, the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain, all 393 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: the power. Sometimes you know you don't want to. You 394 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: don't want to tick off the coach. In the NFL, 395 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: like listen, man, we got seventy plays, you're gonna have 396 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: to throw guys open. You gotta let it rip. One 397 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: of my only knocks ever on Aaron Rodgers is in 398 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: big spot. Sometimes if he's already got a pick, he 399 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: plays a little safe. I think I think Mendoza is 400 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: more Andrew Luck. You may yell occasionally that he's throwing 401 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: into coverage, but he likes to throw it downfield. His 402 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: ball placement's great, but he's an aggressive thrower. That matters. 403 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: That's why I've said I don't want my quarterback to 404 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: have a ton of picks. But if you're throwing thirty 405 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: eight times and have one, you know, and it comes 406 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: via aggressiveness, I can live with that. You get thirteen possessions, 407 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 1: you can make it up. There's more snaps today than 408 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: fifteen years ago. In the sport used to get fifty 409 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: five snaps. Now you can get sixty eight snaps. So 410 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: if I throw a pick, I got two more drives. 411 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: There's you know the game now. There's more plays in 412 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: football games now than twenty years ago. So I'm when 413 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: you had fifty three plays offensively, I cannot have two picks. 414 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold threw four against the Rams and had the 415 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: ball late with a chance to win. It's different now. 416 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: I want aggressive throw it down the field, guys and Mendoza? 417 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: Is that one more heard? 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Don't listen to 426 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 6: the show so it can get cancel. 427 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 2: Oh wha, what what the hell are you doing? 428 00:22:59,440 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 7: Out? 429 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: Do you get him? Paulan? 430 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 4: Ignore that fool. 431 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 8: Listen to the Pauline Tony Fusco Show on the iHeartRadio 432 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 8: app or wherever you get your podcast He's still moving. 433 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: All right. Sweet sixteen starts tonight. First game on the 434 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: dock at tonight, Purdue takes on Texas. Purdue is a 435 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: handful veteran team. Does it a little differently more of 436 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: a Villanova style. Is going to recruit the high school guys, 437 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: not gonna not gonna have that many transfers, maybe one 438 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: a year that they spend some money on. So I 439 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: like Purdue tonight. Matt Painters built a really, really good program. 440 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: Arizona plays could be the best team that got a 441 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: lot of NBA guys. So I know j Max. That's 442 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: Jmax's favorite team. We will have Carlos Boozer. Duke's playing. 443 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: I think it's tomorrow night. Does a duke play Tomorrow 444 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: night or night? Throw the schedule up one more time. 445 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: Duke plays tomorrow against Saint John, Boy, that'll be classic. 446 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: Saint John's played Yukon was three times. I think it 447 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: beat Yukon twice. Saint John's. I think I think Yukon 448 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: beat Saint John. Saint John's beat Yukon, and Saint John's 449 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: may have beaten him twice if. 450 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 8: They beat him at the Garden in the Big East Tournament, 451 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 8: they were I mean it was like a home court advantage. 452 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 8: This Saint John's team is suspect, But yes, I picked 453 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 8: Arizona in the brackets. Let's just say I'm heavily invested 454 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 8: in Duke to get to the final four. 455 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: Heavily Saint John's struggles to shoot. 456 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 8: They shot the kid who hit six threes against Kansas 457 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 8: career high. He's been playing college basketball for four years. 458 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 8: He never hit six threes in his life, probably not 459 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 8: even in a shoot around. He can't hit six threes, 460 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 8: and he buried him against Kansas. They won't do that 461 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 8: against Duke. But this Caleb Foster stuff. 462 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 4: Did you see that? 463 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 8: It's sound his parents are saying he's fifty to fifty 464 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 8: gonna play three weeks after surgery. 465 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 4: That's insane. 466 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: The Big Ten has six teams in the sweet sixteen. 467 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, Hey, that Iowa game Collin tonight. I am so 468 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 8: ju just to if you were here, I would drag 469 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 8: you to our favorite watering hole. 470 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 4: And I'm gonna be right. 471 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: I think guy like Iowa to win. 472 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 8: I'm rooting Iowa so heavily in this one. It's gonna 473 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 8: be a great game. Those two teams hate each other, 474 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 8: and the Iowa coach, by the way, one of the 475 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 8: best coaches in the country, Ben McCollum. 476 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: Some Darius Acuff for Arkansas taking on those those Arizona 477 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: NBA guys. Uh, that's gonna be that. 478 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 4: Illinois Houston is a great game too. 479 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: Arkansas Arizona will be the most fun to watch. That's 480 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: my prediction. 481 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 8: Probably. Yeah, well a cuff is it? I mean Alan 482 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 8: Irison Derrick Grosse type player. 483 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm surprised that Alabama's here. 484 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 4: They're not gonna be here for long. Yeah. 485 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: Michigan's gonna thump them tomorrow. You think you know? 486 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, lay the lumber big guy. 487 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Jmack with the. 488 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 2: News, No, no, this is the Herdline News. 489 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 3: You know. 490 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 8: I've been championing Victoryama for the m VP for weeks. 491 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 4: I believe it. 492 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 8: And guess who's with me? Your guy, Draymond Green. Draymond 493 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 8: Green loves what web Ben Yama's doing. Wemby's out here 494 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 8: basically saying he wants to win MVP, he wants to 495 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 8: win Defensive Player of the Year, he wants most of proof, 496 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 8: he wants all the awards. 497 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 4: Here's Draymond loving what Wemby's doing. 498 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 7: Until Wemby said defense is fifty percent of the game. 499 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 7: It was like, oh man, no one realized that I 500 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 7: hated it because he had to do that for that 501 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 7: sad end se All of a sudden, you turn on 502 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 7: TV and everybody's like, actually, maybe woman is the MVP, 503 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 7: but we got this guy defending entire teams and no 504 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 7: one took it into account until he said, well, number one, 505 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 7: defense is fifty percent of the game. 506 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: Well, Wemby is so much of what Wemby does he 507 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: doesn't get credit for it, like you have to double him. 508 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: So therefore there's always open corner threes for the Spurs. 509 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: And defensively, he has thirty nine more blocks than the 510 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: rest of the league would have seventy five more blocks 511 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: if people attacked him. But he changes how teams play offensively, 512 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: so he is just he is one of those fulls multipliers. 513 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: He doesn't really get credit for how he elevates everybody 514 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: around him. I mean, you could get a San Antonio 515 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: could be fine going getting somebody. They're not going to 516 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: get a cuff he'll be gone, but they could go 517 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: get a player like that who's a huge defensive liability. 518 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: Because Wemby's in the paint whereas when you have a Luca, 519 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like you do need occasionally. 520 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: Some of the great offensive players in basketball history are 521 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: defensive liabilities. You know, Magic wasn't great, but he's got 522 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: Kareem behind him. So Wemby allows you to draft differently. 523 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: It allows you to acquire differently, play differently. Just even 524 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: we don't talk about his offense what he does because 525 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: he's less consistent offensively, but how many open jumpers do 526 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: you get? Because Wemby's on the floor and you're a teammate, 527 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: so he just changes. He's one of those rare genetically, 528 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: there's just I mean, he's obviously put incredible work into it, 529 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: but he just adds elements to a team that you 530 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: can't really account for statistically. 531 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 8: I can't recall a player Colin who's ever had this 532 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 8: much hype and excitement before he's ever played in the playoffs. Okay, Lebron, 533 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 8: people were like, oh, this guy's he's really really good, Kobe, 534 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 8: you know. 535 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 4: Young guy. 536 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 8: I can't recall anyone like I had. I genuinely think 537 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 8: they're gonna win the title this year. 538 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: He had seven blocks in twenty seven minutes last night. 539 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: Yeah again, that doesn't count the other six shots he impacted. 540 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 4: So let me put it back to you. 541 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 8: So besides Draymond basically saying I feel heard, I feel seen. Finally, 542 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 8: people are talking defense when we talk MVP Wemby versa. 543 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 8: I don't care that Okasey's two games better that to me, 544 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 8: that's not MVP. Shouldn't the Spurs winning the season series 545 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 8: this season? Wemby's four and one head to head against SGA, 546 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 8: shouldn't that mean something? 547 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: Yes? In the MVP race, Yes, yes it should. That's 548 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: why I would vote Wemby MVP. 549 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 4: Here we go, We got to Wemby votes here on 550 00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 4: the show. 551 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: Also, I love it can't be the worst defensive player 552 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: in the league and Lucas on a short list of that. 553 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: I don't think you can win MVP and be atrocious defensively. 554 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 4: Well, I'm not gonna even deign that with a comment. 555 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 4: All right, let's go to the NFL. 556 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 8: Colin Patrick Mahomes got everybody on the internet worked up yesterday. 557 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 4: This video emerged three months after surgery. 558 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 8: Look at Patty Mahomes just dropping back casually and his 559 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 8: Camo shorts. 560 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 4: And just dropping bombs. 561 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 8: WHOA people feel excited Mahomes wrote, day by day felt 562 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 8: great being able to. 563 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 4: Throw the ball around. 564 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 8: Today, and people are saying, oh, he's definitely playing week one. However, 565 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 8: Ian Rappaport came out to pump the brakes, saying there's 566 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 8: a lot of uncertainty on his return. This is just 567 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 8: three months into a nine to twelve month recovery. 568 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 1: Now. 569 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 4: I don't know if Rappaport's getting that. 570 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 8: From the agent or the team, maybe both, but I 571 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 8: will say I was a little shocked to see Mahomes 572 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 8: movie that fluidly three months after surgery. 573 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 4: Now, obviously he's not being chased by. 574 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: Best doctors in the world. He's got you know, the 575 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: Hunt families paying for the best doctors in the world. Secondly, 576 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: is young pro athletes are different than us. Like, I'm sorry, 577 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: they're different. They heal faster than we do. Every time. 578 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum's not gonna play this year. He'll play this 579 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: year and he's really good again, like all these guys, 580 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: heal much faster. You know. 581 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 8: It's an aclcl though, is not just like a small thing. 582 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 8: You have the surgery in December and it's like, come on, really, 583 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 8: you think he'll play week one? 584 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 4: I mean they just signed justin Fields like three weeks ago. 585 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 4: I think no. 586 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: I think my guess is, if you ask me when 587 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: he I think he's gonna play it by week three, 588 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: I think I think they're gonna draft an offensive tackle 589 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: and they want to make sure he can block before 590 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: they play him. 591 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 8: You don't want to rust this guy back then he 592 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 8: gets hurt again. That that would be like the worst 593 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 8: case scenario. 594 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: The downside is if you go zero one one, do 595 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: you have to play him week two because the division 596 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: is so good? 597 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's a good call. 598 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 8: Maybe though you know what they love the Chiefs on 599 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 8: those early games, the schedule makers, they. 600 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: Happens to Kansas See now the NFL. The Seahawks are 601 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: opening the season on Wednesday overseas, aren't they? Or no, 602 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: that they're the Rams. Niners are playing in Australia on Thursday. 603 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: Seattle opens the season Wednesday. They don't know their opponent yet. 604 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: But my guess is you would not put Kansas City 605 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: in because you don't know if Mahomes is gonna play. 606 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that's I would. 607 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: I would go You'd have to look at who Seattle's playing. 608 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 8: Hey, Chiefs Raiders is an opener's fine, maybe Mendoza starts, 609 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 8: or I mean Kirk Cousins or Justin Fields, but I 610 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 8: think you're onto something there. 611 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 4: Maybe the schedule makers. 612 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: Will the NFL wants. I mean they're putting the Niners 613 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: up against the Rams in Australia because you're getting McVeigh 614 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: and Shanahan. Purty's not hurt yet, that'll be Week five. 615 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 8: So this guy with the shots of the final story, 616 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 8: look at that with the smirk to oh Man, what 617 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 8: a chuirch. All right, NFL Draft, Let's go to Ruben Bain. 618 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 8: He's the guy with the t Rex arms, Colin. If 619 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 8: he were drafted in the first round, there's a lot 620 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 8: of reports that he would be the first ed rusher 621 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 8: with the shortest arms taken in the first round and 622 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 8: like the last twenty five years or something like that. Bain, though, 623 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 8: who was a really dominant player in college. 624 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 4: I mean, he's coming off the edge. He's just a disruptor, 625 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 4: a wrecker. 626 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 8: He pushed back on the negativity and listen to who 627 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 8: could he compared himself. 628 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: To, like Mike Tyson. 629 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 5: He one of the most tallest. He wonted the tallest 630 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 5: guy or wasn't the longest limb guy, but you when 631 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 5: you felt them, you felt them. My versatility, I feel 632 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 5: like most people didn't know I could just drop in 633 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 5: coverage and move around like that. 634 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, thirty yards down the field, you know. 635 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: Anything I mask. 636 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 5: I feel like I'm a versatile player, and that's what 637 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 5: I showed today, just knowing that I'm at a new eight, 638 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 5: a new body, type, new style, and I'm just the 639 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 5: same player. 640 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think I think he's a really 641 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: good player. I think David Bailey is a really good player. 642 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: I think they'll both be nice NFL players. I don't 643 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: think they're in the Aiden Hutchison class out of Michigan. 644 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: I think he's a really really good player, aggressive, dogged, intense, 645 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: power player. I don't think you know. Listen, what's always 646 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,959 Speaker 1: interesting about the draft is I love watching draft coverage 647 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: because everybody's unbelievable and thirty percent of the first round 648 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: won't be great. I keep going back to RBL Reese. 649 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: I know he's a great athlete. Uh, we've seen what 650 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: the Jets do to quarterbacks. 651 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 4: Oh, come, Reece is going to be fine. 652 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 8: Regarding Baines, So I think what people need to do 653 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 8: is go look at how he performed against the potential 654 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 8: left tackles we're going to. 655 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 4: Be in the early rounds. 656 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, and you know there is a little tape showing 657 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 8: him being kept at bay by certain guys couldn't get 658 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 8: to the quarterback. 659 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 7: Well, in the. 660 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 8: NFL, you're going against the best thirty two left tackles 661 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 8: in the league, or perhaps freight tackles. So I think 662 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 8: he drops a little bit. I have him dropped into 663 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 8: the Ravens at four. This is the guy who we 664 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 8: were talking about second overall. I just you know, you 665 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 8: go second overall, Colin. That's risky. 666 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: By the way, the Seahawks open the season, they don't 667 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: know their opponent. It's in Seattle, the Niners Rams is 668 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: the one in Australia. I don't love that. By the way, 669 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: taking one of the best rivalry games in the NFL 670 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: and sending it overseas, I don't love that. 671 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 8: Well, I think they did it because the West Coast. 672 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 1: Is a little less travel for them, but it's still 673 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: fifteen hour flight. 674 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 8: I know. But if you were East coast, what is 675 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 8: it nineteen hours twenty twenty one hour flight? 676 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I don't love the Australia 677 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 4: game at all. But I do love Australia as a country. 678 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think we all do. Jmack with a news. 679 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The 680 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 2: Herd Line News. 681 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: Hopefully they're still an ally. You never know these days, 682 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 1: you just don't know. In Chicago, it's the Herd. 683 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 684 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 2: and noon Easter non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 685 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 686 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 8: The UFL Kickoff Weekend is just a day away. A 687 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 8: new season of spring football starts tomorrow night on Fox 688 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 8: when a new franchise, the Louisville Kings, takes on the 689 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 8: Birmingham Stallions. Then on Saturday we got DC Saint Louis 690 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 8: on ESPN and Houston Dallas on Fox. And the weekend 691 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 8: wraps up with Columbus at Orlando Sunday night on ESPN. 692 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 8: The UFL season kicks off tomorrow night on Fox. 693 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: Rick new Heisl, head coach of the Dallas Runnegades, joins 694 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: us tomorrow. He'll have thoughts on a bunch of stuff, 695 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff. Well, you know, one of my 696 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: favorite moments was when Dan Hurley came on today and 697 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: I've been on this for years. The G League's nonsense. 698 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: The G League's been around since two thousand and one, 699 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 1: twenty five years. They haven't developed a single star in 700 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: the NBA. What does that tell you? What does that 701 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: tell you? The G League's a bunch of nonsense. You 702 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: get so much exposure. You're setting records, ratings, records. If 703 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: you're a dad and your kid can plan in the NBA, 704 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: go to college. Go to college. You get unbelievable exposure. 705 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: You play in like real arenas, like the intensity of 706 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: college like it's like you don't want to play in 707 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: some parking lot nel passo. Like college basketball. These games 708 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: matter a lot. There's a lot of eyes. You get exposure. 709 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: The coaching's great, and that Nick Nurse coached in G League. 710 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: There's some good coaches in G League, up and coming guys. 711 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: But I love that what Dan Hurley said when I 712 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: asked him about college basketball being better these days due 713 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: to the NIL and he talked about. 714 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 9: It, most of those guys, you know, are making the smart, 715 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 9: a smart decision of staying in college where basically they 716 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 9: could now get the same amount of money, but you're 717 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 9: also you're going to get developed better at college than 718 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 9: you will in the. 719 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: G League because the coaching is better, better facilities, better food, 720 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: better travel, better arenas, better coaching, better development. I have 721 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: never been a fan of the G League. You know, 722 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: in the game, if you go watch the G League, 723 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: it's got a YMCA feel. Everybody's trying to get their theirs. 724 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 2: Now. 725 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: Now, the best G League team sometimes is really good. 726 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: You know, you get some of those guys, they're ments, 727 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 1: like the those European teams that Luca was playing well 728 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 1: against when he was like sixteen, he's playing against men. 729 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: You can get these G League teams. Some of these 730 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: guys are older. But the other thing Hurley pointed out 731 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: to is that you know, I said, you know, is 732 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: coaching as a coach. Is it different to coach in 733 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 1: the tournament where Hurley's been unbelievably successful or regular season? 734 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: And he said, actually, he lightens up in the tournament 735 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: here he is. 736 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 9: I'm more relaxed this time of year. I think you 737 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 9: work so hard to put yourself in position where you're 738 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 9: in contention. Now you find yourself with a team that's 739 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 9: in contention. You're more relaxed this time of year when 740 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 9: you're coaching in December or January, you're really uptight. 741 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 8: Man. 742 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 9: It's like if things start going bad in December, now 743 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 9: you're looking at that staring down the barrel of Man. 744 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 9: I got two or three more months a hell with 745 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 9: this group. If we get out a two game losing 746 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 9: streak where you don't worry about picking the pieces up 747 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 9: this time of year, if you go down, you know, 748 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 9: it's kill or be killed. 749 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think a lot of that is I 750 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: look at college football now and college basketball with much 751 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: more patience than I watched years ago. And the reason 752 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: is the transfer portal. Right, Like you I remember I 753 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: use this as an example, and I don't remember the 754 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: exact year, but years and years ago, maybe been ten 755 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: years ago. When was it now? It wasn't that. It 756 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: was a Kansas team that I watched that like Christmas 757 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: and they were awful because it was all new guys. 758 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: And then I watched them and like and I had 759 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: them getting bounced in the bracket. I watched them in 760 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, late February, and I'm like, that's a totally 761 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: different team. I feel the same way in college football 762 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: is that I think it's I think it's ridiculous to 763 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: watch like when Ohio State went to Oregon and lost 764 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: that shootout. I'm like, Ohio State is going to be better. 765 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: Ohio State's got more high end guys, but you got 766 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 1: the transfer portal, you got new guys coming in in 767 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: new assistance and in college football. Like, I just don't 768 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: get worked up over September losses anymore. I mean, go 769 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: look at Miami that ended up in the National championship game. 770 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: Miami lost to smunsm Us. Pretty good program lost to 771 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: Louisville in the middle of the season. They were kind 772 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: of a mess. Why well, they spent a lot of 773 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: money in anil. They're bringing new guys in. You know 774 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: Carson Beck, they became a little less reliant on him, 775 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: ran the football a little bit more. It takes long 776 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,280 Speaker 1: time to get new people in. You got the high schoolers, 777 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: the transfer guys, the older guys, the younger guys, the 778 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: new guys. So when I watch college basketball, what Hurley's 779 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: basically saying is you're trying to mold this puppy. And 780 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 1: you know your best players only spend one year in college, right, 781 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: so you're getting a really young kid. Purdue is unique 782 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: in which like they're like the Villanova model. They get 783 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 1: some they get some gray beard, they get some age 784 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: on their team. But a lot of the top brands, 785 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: the kansas Is and the Yukons, you don't get a 786 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: guy for more than a year, maybe two, so and 787 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: you're bringing new guys in constantly. So you know, It's 788 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: what Hurley's basically saying is by the time the season ends, 789 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: I've been able to craft and mold a team that 790 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: I kind of know what they are. You don't know 791 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 1: what you are in December. I mean they actually had 792 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: they got blown out by Marquette earlier in the year Yukon, 793 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: and I don't think Marquette wasn't a very good team 794 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: this year. So they got shelled. That's what happens. So 795 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: and there we go. Put up the schedule one more 796 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: time tonight. Purdue. It's one of the teams I really like. 797 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 1: Iowa Nebraska fields like a go either way game. Arkansas Arizona. 798 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,959 Speaker 1: You're gonna get a lot of offense in that game. 799 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Arizona. Probably take Calvin Samson and Houston, 800 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: though Illinois is a tough out. 801 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 8: Get you know, the game is at the Toyota Center 802 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 8: in Houston, so big home court advantage. Illinois was a 803 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 8: team I had going into the final four of my brackets. 804 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 4: I like them. Tonight, Colin, that's gonna be a great game. 805 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 4: I'm geeked. Hey, don't text me tonight. 806 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 8: I'll be so locked in phone, face down, no alcoholic beverages. 807 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 4: Excited. 808 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: WHOA that is commitment. Wow.