WEBVTT - The Diddy Trial: The Witness List

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, it is Wednesday, June twenty fifth. The jury

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<v Speaker 1>is off today in the Didty trial. There are no

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<v Speaker 1>more witnesses for them to hear from. In the past

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<v Speaker 1>seven weeks, they've heard from thirty four witnesses, including six

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<v Speaker 1>former Didty assistants, four hotel workers, two ex girlfriends, a rapper,

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<v Speaker 1>a former pop star, and a male escort who goes

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<v Speaker 1>by the punisher. And with that, welcome to this Diddy

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<v Speaker 1>update episode of Amy and TJ Robes. They are the

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<v Speaker 1>jury's out, but work is still We need to explain

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<v Speaker 1>that even though the jury's out today, work, very important

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<v Speaker 1>work actually still going on at the court.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so both the defense and the prosecution are meeting

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<v Speaker 2>with the judge today to decide what the jury is

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<v Speaker 2>going to hear when they're instructed by the judge about

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<v Speaker 2>how they go about deliberations. And each set of instructions

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<v Speaker 2>is unique to each court case. So this should be

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<v Speaker 2>a fun day in that Lower Manhattan court room. Some

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<v Speaker 2>fighting going on and now, well, yeah, fun was very sarcastic.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, these things are taken, so every little word matters.

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<v Speaker 1>They want and this is their last chance, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>right to get a word in while the jury is deliberating.

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I've seen different different reporting on whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not they will physically get a copy of the instructions

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<v Speaker 1>once they get in there. But there he's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to read every single word to them, is how it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>And that could take a while.

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<v Speaker 2>It certainly could, And I can't imagine how long if

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<v Speaker 2>they have a very limited amount of time this afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>because they're meeting at twelve noon correct Eastern time to

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<v Speaker 2>meet with the judge to hash it out, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>both gonna want different things and they're both gonna not

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<v Speaker 2>want certain things said. So you know, I don't envy

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<v Speaker 2>what a judge's job is in this entire process, as

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<v Speaker 2>I've watched it really closely with this trial, and just

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<v Speaker 2>that is a that's a tough.

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<v Speaker 1>Job to be a referee for confident, borderline, arrogant, successful

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<v Speaker 1>folks who have this much on the line. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the bickering. It can't get paid. It doesn't seem like

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<v Speaker 1>it has, at least at over court here. But we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen in places and times, and it's amazing that people

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<v Speaker 1>this educated and the successful can also beat this petty

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<v Speaker 1>and child exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I mean, you heard you heard Diddy

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday telling the judge he was doing a good job.

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<v Speaker 2>So he must be.

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<v Speaker 1>Been one to tell you this judge doing great. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was hilarious. I don't know how long, so

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder so the timeline we talked about closing arguments tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>Both sides said they wanted about four hours. That could

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<v Speaker 1>go long. Could so if we go into Friday finishing

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<v Speaker 1>that up and then the jury gates instructions, will they

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<v Speaker 1>have any time to deliberate on Friday. I guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the thing that's up.

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<v Speaker 2>In the air depends on how long the instructions are,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is going to be determined today. So one

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<v Speaker 2>thing affects the next down the line.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how deep of a dive I did into this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the George Zimmerman Tradevon Martin trial and then

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<v Speaker 1>the OJ trial. I couldn't find the instructions, the physical

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<v Speaker 1>instruction to see how long they were online for OJ.

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<v Speaker 1>But I actually watched Judge Ito give the jury instructions.

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<v Speaker 1>It went about forty minutes. Oh, okay, didn't take long

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<v Speaker 1>at all. But then in the Zimmerman try, it was

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven pages of instructions. I think it took the

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<v Speaker 1>judge there, Judge Nelson, about two hours. Okay, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>up in the air. It could go a little while.

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<v Speaker 1>It could take until lunch break, knows to get the

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<v Speaker 1>instructions out. I'm just so curious that they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>start deliberating this.

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<v Speaker 2>Week this week Friday afternoon, or will he let them,

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<v Speaker 2>after a very long seven weeks, take a break so

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<v Speaker 2>that they can start fresh on Monday. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>would be my reasoning for a judge to say, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want a tire jury on the at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the week after sitting there for so long. I

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<v Speaker 2>know they got today off technically, but still to start

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<v Speaker 2>in the afternoon and then start sitting you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>you're angry, tired at the end of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>We just went through all this. It's Friday. Now y'all

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<v Speaker 1>go in there and start fighting it out exactly. That's explosive.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, good, After we.

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<v Speaker 2>Just talked that out, I'm pretty sure they'll probably start

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<v Speaker 2>deliberating on them.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, make a good point, but do you even remember, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>there were thirty four witnesses, and all of them for

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<v Speaker 1>the prosecution. As you know, of course, Didy's side did

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<v Speaker 1>not call anybody and robes, we're gonna fly through for

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<v Speaker 1>you all right now, every single one of the thirty four,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them more eventful and memorable than others. But

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<v Speaker 1>did you remember first up Israel Flores not exactly a

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<v Speaker 1>blockbuster when we first heard it, but this was a

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<v Speaker 1>hotel security guard at the Intercontinental who responded to that

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<v Speaker 1>incident out of a woman in distress.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be honest, I did not remember that, and

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<v Speaker 2>it is an interesting choice to not start off with

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<v Speaker 2>a bang. But perhaps because we don't remember, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>whole point. Probably the jury doesn't either.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they said this allowed them, though, right off the bat,

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<v Speaker 1>to enter the surveillance video correct into the record. So

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<v Speaker 1>right off the bat the jury was starting to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>Next up already got a male escort.

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<v Speaker 2>Ro okay, So then they did have a little flash

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<v Speaker 2>there you want to kind of excite the jury, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>look what we got for you, and this is just

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning. But yes, this was Daniel Phillip. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>remember his name either, And this is crazy because we

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<v Speaker 2>really paid close attention to this every single day. This

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<v Speaker 2>is interesting, but yes, he talked about getting paid six

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars per freak off. And he did say he

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<v Speaker 2>witnessed personally Diddy being violent to Cassie.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was a guy also that we got. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>there were a lot of freak off details, and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess early on we weren't I guess we weren't ready

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<v Speaker 1>yet for some of what we were going to hear

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<v Speaker 1>later on the trial. We go, Okay, that sounds we

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<v Speaker 1>got desensitized.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, bottles of baby oil, that's nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>But this guy off the top started dropping bomb after bomb.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things we found out is that

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<v Speaker 1>did he likes to sit in the corner in the dark,

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<v Speaker 1>buck naked with a veil over his head and masturbating

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<v Speaker 1>while he's watching his girlfriend have sex with another man?

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<v Speaker 2>And that disturbing image is still with me today. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that is one that you actually, I don't think you

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<v Speaker 2>can ever unsee. So that was a very powerful, powerful witness.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, that was probably just the first of so

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<v Speaker 2>many disturbing and jaw dropping pieces of testimony that we

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<v Speaker 2>were about to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>And again number three, look, Cassie Ventura, fine, it's between her,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess Capricorn Clark Mia Jane. It's tough to find

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<v Speaker 1>a witness that was I mean that last Jane testimony

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty was pretty heavy. But this stuff, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Cassie Venturi Fine had to be. Would you say, the

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<v Speaker 1>number one the star witness and the most powerful, impactful

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<v Speaker 1>witness for the prosecution.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe so because she honestly she was also just

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<v Speaker 2>so we all felt for her, like it was hard

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<v Speaker 2>not to feel emotion towards her and for her you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to comfort her. And she was a very sympathetic

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<v Speaker 2>witness and seemingly a true victim when you heard her testimony.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, she was very very powerful. Of course, she

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<v Speaker 2>was his ex girlfriend for over a decade, correct, and

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<v Speaker 2>the accuser who actually started this entire trial, so to speak,

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<v Speaker 2>because it was her lawsuit. And she files this lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 2>The next day she gets twenty million dollars from Diddy,

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<v Speaker 2>but it caught the attention of federal investigators and boom,

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<v Speaker 2>the investigation began, and here we are now all because

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<v Speaker 2>of Cassie.

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<v Speaker 1>Have we talked about this before on any episode?

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<v Speaker 2>What if he settled with her right the first day,

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<v Speaker 2>like or as soon if he.

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<v Speaker 1>Even threatened and said you need to buy the rights

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<v Speaker 1>to my book. What if he settled with her?

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<v Speaker 2>If he did that, I don't believe that he would

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<v Speaker 2>be in court facing life in prison.

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<v Speaker 1>Somewhere down the road some of this somewhere. You think

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<v Speaker 1>anyone would have come forward.

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<v Speaker 2>If they hadn't for decades.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so true. But yeah, just to think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>true the Me.

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<v Speaker 2>Too movement, you know, no one said anything that would

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<v Speaker 2>have been a real opportune time to come forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Well yeah, and you talked about her being sympathetic.

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<v Speaker 1>She was eight plus months pregnant through all this. She

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<v Speaker 1>had when she got done, she had the baby the

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<v Speaker 1>follow next week week right, Yeah, it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>That is amazing As someone who has been pregnant before,

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<v Speaker 2>that is remarkable.

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<v Speaker 1>Witness number four Homeland Security, a special agent Yasin Benda

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<v Speaker 1>did one of the searches at the hotel, was actually

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<v Speaker 1>there when Diddy was arrested. Now that was in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four. When Diddy was arrested. Now with the time,

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<v Speaker 1>if we heard about did he had nine thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in cash on him, ketamine MDMA, and a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>baby oil back then, maybe we would have scratched our

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<v Speaker 1>heads and going what the hell is that about? But

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<v Speaker 1>now we know exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>What all that wass right, It's all the pieces of

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<v Speaker 2>the puzzle have come together. And so when you hear

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<v Speaker 2>this type of testimony, what was there in the room

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<v Speaker 2>with him, well, it all just makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Y Don Raschord was witness number five. She's a former

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<v Speaker 1>member of Dannity Kine, the group that did he put

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<v Speaker 1>together on is Making the Band, And there was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to her, but it seemed like isn't this where

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<v Speaker 1>the defense made a lot of inroads where she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem to be the greatest of witnesses for the prosecution.

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<v Speaker 2>That is correct, and she says that she witnessed violence

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<v Speaker 2>against Cassie. That was powerful because she was there in

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<v Speaker 2>the room and she could speak directly to seeing Ditty

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<v Speaker 2>beat up on Cassie. Although fair to point out once again,

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<v Speaker 2>did he is not on trial for domestic violence or

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<v Speaker 2>any kind of assault, But she did back up Cassie

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<v Speaker 2>in that so in one way at least, she bolstered

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<v Speaker 2>Cassive into her fines testimony. But she also has a

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<v Speaker 2>lawsuit against Ditty, and that is complicated when you're a

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<v Speaker 2>witness taking the stand and you're also seeking some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of financial compensation.

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<v Speaker 1>Witness number six was Carrie Morgan. She had some pretty

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<v Speaker 1>powerful testimony roads because she seemed to be somebody. She's

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<v Speaker 1>a former friend of Cassiev Interifie, and she seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>be someone who really cared for Cassie and seemed heartbroken

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<v Speaker 1>that the relationship had to end, and the way and

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<v Speaker 1>end it was really.

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<v Speaker 2>She describes Ditty trying to choke her and her leaving immediately,

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<v Speaker 2>and that Cassie coming to her and giving her thirty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars from Ditty not to talk about the incident,

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<v Speaker 2>but to her credit, end to her credibility. She ended

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<v Speaker 2>her friendship with Cassie immediately. She wanted nothing to do

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<v Speaker 2>with her or with Ditty after what she experienced. It

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<v Speaker 2>was that horrific. One could assume that she just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be a part of that group period.

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<v Speaker 1>She I remember, she said. She talked about the disappointment

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<v Speaker 1>of how Cassie didn't come to her defense in any way,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't try to was immediately trying to explain Ditty's behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess just didn't comfort her in that moment. How

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<v Speaker 1>disappointing was she was. She gave some powerful and powerful

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<v Speaker 1>and got some sad testimony. Yeah, it's a sure way

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<v Speaker 1>to put it. David James was witnessed number seven. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a former Comb's assistant. He testified to again, was

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<v Speaker 1>this the first assistant.

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<v Speaker 2>We've heard, the first of many?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I believe of many, But he was the first

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<v Speaker 1>that started tell us about rope some of these freak

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<v Speaker 1>off rooms and some of the responsibility they had and

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<v Speaker 1>setting these things up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. So usually for most of these assistants, and we

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<v Speaker 2>heard testify, it was about, yes, setting up the hotels,

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<v Speaker 2>it was about making sure all of what he would

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<v Speaker 2>need in those rooms for the freak offs that could

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<v Speaker 2>last days on end. So yes, he talked about just

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<v Speaker 2>getting baby oil and even drugs and so all of

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<v Speaker 2>these details started to come out, and we were all

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<v Speaker 2>shocked as he said, this is mister Comb's kingdom. We

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<v Speaker 2>are all here to serve in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he said, he remembered when he first went into

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<v Speaker 1>the offices. That's what it was explained to him, setting

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<v Speaker 1>the standard here. This is mister Colmbs kingdom and we

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<v Speaker 1>are all here to serve him, So get on board,

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<v Speaker 1>he said. He ended up quitting though after fifteen months.

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<v Speaker 1>After this incident where Diddy apparently had guns and they

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<v Speaker 1>were supposed to go confront shook night. He said that

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<v Speaker 1>shook him to the point that eventually that made him

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<v Speaker 1>want to That would shake anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Given nineties wrap beefs have turned deadly in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>so that would not be something most people would want

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<v Speaker 2>to be a part of.

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<v Speaker 1>All. Right, after that, we had witness number eight, which

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<v Speaker 1>is Regina Ventur. That's a casiv inturor fines mom. She

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't up there long. I don't think the defense cross examined.

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<v Speaker 2>Or no, I don't believe they did either.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she might have been up there fifteen minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>half hour. And I guess at that incident that sticks

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<v Speaker 1>in the mind is when she, I guess a fair

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<v Speaker 1>way to say it, tried to buy her daughter back,

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<v Speaker 1>to save her, if you will, from Didty.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought this. Yes, she was short, but very powerful,

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<v Speaker 2>because yes, she talked about how she wired did He

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thousand dollars basically to get Cassie back, because Cassie

0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.600
<v Speaker 2>had called her and said he is threatening to release

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<v Speaker 2>these sexually explicit videos of me, and he needs money,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you know, she mortgaged her home to get

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<v Speaker 2>this money to Diddy. But I think what was just

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<v Speaker 2>so eerie is to know a few days later he

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<v Speaker 2>wires it back, meaning she's mine.

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<v Speaker 1>She wasn't up there long, but that was a powerful

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<v Speaker 1>moment to hear. Witness Number nine was Shary Hay, the

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<v Speaker 1>infamous punisher. Of course we heard so much about during it,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, yes, he was someone that was regularly used.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he testified at least a dozen times in

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<v Speaker 1>some of these free calls. This is the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>told us about the veil. My mistake, I get right.

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<v Speaker 2>We the veil was not really revealed until a couple

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<v Speaker 2>a couple exotic answers in. But that was just that

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<v Speaker 2>was a oh god, that was just a horror movie

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<v Speaker 2>esque detail that again added to the visual that I

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<v Speaker 2>had in my head of Ditty in a corner naked masturbating,

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<v Speaker 2>Will you get that?

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<v Speaker 1>And will you stop?

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<v Speaker 2>You?

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<v Speaker 1>You keep?

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<v Speaker 2>But every time we talk about it, did you not

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<v Speaker 2>see it in your head?

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<v Speaker 1>No? I didn't, actually, dude, It's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop, I don't, I don't, I don't want it in

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<v Speaker 2>my head.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't see it all right? When in number ten was

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<v Speaker 1>a Gerard gan In, another Homeland Security special agent went

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<v Speaker 1>through some items found in Diddy's Miami home. This is

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<v Speaker 1>when we would start first hearing about lingerie and platform

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<v Speaker 1>heels and baby oil kept close by where some guns were,

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<v Speaker 1>so went through some of that stuff. The next witness

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<v Speaker 1>was an expert, and this one was important. Don Hughes

0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:11.320
<v Speaker 1>robes and she wasn't necessarily testifying for either side. She

0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:15.400
<v Speaker 1>wasn't someone who hit treated, or examined or interviewed cas

0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:18.080
<v Speaker 1>it into or fine, but she helped us all kind

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<v Speaker 1>of understand I guess the psyche of abuse people who

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<v Speaker 1>are abused, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And she did not interview anyone who was a victim

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<v Speaker 2>or a part of this trial. This is just based

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<v Speaker 2>on her experience as an expert psychologist. But talking about

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<v Speaker 2>why women are complicit or seem to say they want

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<v Speaker 2>to go along with it or pretend like everything is

0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:44.520
<v Speaker 2>okay when actually they're being abused and they don't have control.

0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:48.160
<v Speaker 2>They try to just soothe it's the person who is

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<v Speaker 2>actually abusing them or even love bomb them. So it

0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:54.600
<v Speaker 2>seems strange to know that these women, but she was

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<v Speaker 2>explaining it. You can say you love someone, you can

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<v Speaker 2>do what you want for them, or and it still

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that you were free to act otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. I'm just remembering you. Remember they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>bring her back. Yes, the prosecution did, and the judge said, nope,

0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.360
<v Speaker 1>you had your shot. But it was after one and

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember one of the victims. Ledged victims had

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<v Speaker 1>testified they wanted to bring her back for something, and

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<v Speaker 1>they said nope.

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<v Speaker 2>Because because what she was saying was very inconsistent with

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<v Speaker 2>what her texts were showing. And that's why they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to bring her back to say. Remember, remember a victim,

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<v Speaker 2>a true victim, can actually not sound like one, but

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<v Speaker 2>still is all right.

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<v Speaker 1>We had Witness number twelve was George Kaplan, another former

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<v Speaker 1>duty assistant, again talked about setting up freak off rooms

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<v Speaker 1>in the some of the violence he saw ended up

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<v Speaker 1>getting immunity. And then witness all important. Witness number thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>was rapper Kid Cutty. This was highly anticipated and this

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<v Speaker 1>was some explosive stuff. But this is the guy who says,

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<v Speaker 1>did he broke into his home and did he fire

0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.640
<v Speaker 1>bombed his car because he found that the kid cut

0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:58.880
<v Speaker 1>he was dating Cassie said, did he even threaten to

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<v Speaker 1>kill him? That was a very very powerful witness. Witness

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<v Speaker 1>number fourteen was Mila Morales. I don't remember the makeup

0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:06.200
<v Speaker 1>artist at all, you know, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Do, because she was talking about didn't she talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the bruises? She said she didn't actually see Cassie get injured,

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<v Speaker 2>but oh yes, she saw when Cassie came running in

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<v Speaker 2>to the hotel room after a violent incident, she claims.

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<v Speaker 2>And she said Diddy then came into the hotel room

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<v Speaker 2>looking for Cassie. So just more eyewitness accounts of the

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<v Speaker 2>relationship between Cassie and Ditty and how violent it could be.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. In number fifteen, Frederick Zumour had some very powerful

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<v Speaker 1>testimony general manager of the Lameritage Hotel in Beverly Hills,

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<v Speaker 1>but talked through Ditty's guest profile. This was some sticky

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<v Speaker 1>yiky stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Sticky yiky stuff, that's a good way to put it. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>So he talked about just how there were memos in

0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Ditty's file about you know, you're going to have to

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<v Speaker 2>do a deep cleaning and you won't be able to

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<v Speaker 2>release the room for a day and make sure you

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<v Speaker 2>take X amount of dollars for a deposit. That kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Joshua Craff, I can't remember the forensics agent went

0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.320
<v Speaker 1>through the laptops belonging to Cassie and Diddy. Then we

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<v Speaker 1>had a witness. Number seventeen was Capricorn Clark, very powerful testimony.

0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:13.000
<v Speaker 1>She claimed she was kidnapped by Diddy, claimed he threatened

0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:15.919
<v Speaker 1>to kill her. Threatened. Uh he said one of his

0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.159
<v Speaker 1>goons threatened to throw her in the river. She was

0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:19.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna end up thrown in the river.

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<v Speaker 2>Five days, right, she was light detector test and was

0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:25.399
<v Speaker 2>kidnapped and all of that. So, yeah, she testified to

0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:30.560
<v Speaker 2>some very crazy, crazy evidence if what she says she experienced.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we had Number eighteen was Christopher Ignacio LAPD officer

0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.320
<v Speaker 1>responded to Kid Cuddie's how He said he actually ran

0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:39.360
<v Speaker 1>the place of an suv out there and saw that

0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:43.560
<v Speaker 1>that vehicle did belong to Bad Boy Entertainment. We had

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<v Speaker 1>Number nineteen was Lanceamnez, an Arson investigator who looked into

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<v Speaker 1>what happened with Kid Cutty's car. And this robes was

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<v Speaker 1>where the defense actually asked for a mistrial. Remember, because

0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.399
<v Speaker 1>they accidentally asked a question, if you will, they kind

0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.959
<v Speaker 1>of suggested that the fingerprints went missing from that investigation,

0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:02.679
<v Speaker 1>as if did he had something to do with it.

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<v Speaker 1>They asked for a mistrial, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And the judge denied that request.

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<v Speaker 1>Deontay Nash was witness number twenty Style is very good

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<v Speaker 1>friend of Cassie and saw a lot of her injuries

0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:14.359
<v Speaker 1>but didn't know a lot of what was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the guy right said he helped her hide

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<v Speaker 1>on several occasions, yes from Ditty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and witnessed that attack in the hotel room where

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<v Speaker 2>she got that nasty bruise on the headboard.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we'll stay with us here, folks. When we

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<v Speaker 1>come back. We're going to go through these last few witnesses,

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<v Speaker 1>and one arguably was the most important, Mia, who was

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<v Speaker 1>on the stand. All right, folks, we're going to pick

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<v Speaker 1>back up here as we go through the witness list.

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<v Speaker 1>Witness number twenty one Robes was Mia, another powerful witness

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<v Speaker 1>who spent days on the stand.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that was her pseudonym, because she is an alleged

0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:59.920
<v Speaker 2>victim of Ditty's but she talks about him repeatedly sex

0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:04.040
<v Speaker 2>assaulting her. She said she saw multiple assaults on Cassie

0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:07.040
<v Speaker 2>as well. She was on the stand for three full days,

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<v Speaker 2>but she got very specific about some of these attacks

0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:11.720
<v Speaker 2>that she experienced and witnessed.

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<v Speaker 1>Witness number twenty two. Sylvia Oaken went over what some

0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.240
<v Speaker 1>of the hotel chargers were at the Beverly Hills Hotel,

0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:20.919
<v Speaker 1>about some of the cleaning charges. Eddie Garcia was witness

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<v Speaker 1>number twenty three, A very important one here, Robes. He

0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:25.240
<v Speaker 1>was the security guard who talked about and this is

0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.600
<v Speaker 1>where we heard so much about the bribe and how

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<v Speaker 1>it was split up even among the securities.

0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Stat Yes, his boss got fifty, he took thirty, and

0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:36.080
<v Speaker 2>his other guard friend took twenty. But this was all

0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.200
<v Speaker 2>to give Diddy what he thought was the only copy

0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:42.240
<v Speaker 2>of that video, the hotel surveillance video.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong, it was not. Derek Ferguson was witness number

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four. I thought this was interesting. Rose he was

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<v Speaker 1>the CFO for bad Boy Entertainment, but he worked with

0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:53.320
<v Speaker 1>him all these years. He's saying, I ain't see nothing wrong.

0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see a crime committed. I didn't see any violence.

0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:57.680
<v Speaker 1>And he kind of went through what the books were.

0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:00.320
<v Speaker 1>He was kind of boring, if you will, but it

0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:02.240
<v Speaker 1>was amazing to think somebody that close to Diddy had

0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:03.440
<v Speaker 1>no idea this stuff was going on.

0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or he just didn't want to know and so

0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:07.360
<v Speaker 2>ignorance is bliss.

0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:08.560
<v Speaker 1>You know what, well, he was up there with his

0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:12.439
<v Speaker 1>blissful self. Frank Piazza was witness number twenty five of

0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.919
<v Speaker 1>a forensic video expert just verified the authenticity of that

0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:19.520
<v Speaker 1>surveillance video. Witness number twenty six Brianna Bongle, and this

0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:23.240
<v Speaker 1>was another chance. They asked for misstrial on this one.

0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Too, wrote it was a Perry Mason moment for sure,

0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:27.520
<v Speaker 2>though she says that, of course very quickly. I'm sure

0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:30.639
<v Speaker 2>you can't forget Brianna Bongling. But she claims did he

0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:34.520
<v Speaker 2>dangled her over that sixteen story balcony. The problem was

0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:37.680
<v Speaker 2>the defense was able to point out he was never there.

0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:40.480
<v Speaker 2>She had a specific date where she said this happen.

0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:43.320
<v Speaker 2>She said she did it based on photos and it

0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.480
<v Speaker 2>could have been off a day or two. That didn't

0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:48.520
<v Speaker 2>even work because Diddy was not there for the entire week.

0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:51.359
<v Speaker 2>He was in New York, he was on tour and

0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:52.879
<v Speaker 2>they have the hotel receipts.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, no mistrial granted, but that was a very

0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:58.919
<v Speaker 1>big moment for a very import witness. Enrique Santos was

0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:03.040
<v Speaker 1>witness number twenty seven. Tech Analyzi verified some text messages.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we had Witness number twenty eight. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>go back. This was the longest witness on the stand,

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<v Speaker 1>like six days. Yeah, I didn't six days. So this

0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:16.400
<v Speaker 1>is an ex girlfriend and accuser. This testimony was bonkers.

0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:19.679
<v Speaker 2>It really was because throughout it she said she still

0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.560
<v Speaker 2>loves him, but yes, he is still paying her rent

0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:24.399
<v Speaker 2>as she was on the stand right there. They had

0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:27.359
<v Speaker 2>a two year love contract that apparently isn't up yet.

0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:30.439
<v Speaker 2>He also paid for her legal fees. Initially it was

0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:33.200
<v Speaker 2>said that she was on the defense side and then

0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:37.399
<v Speaker 2>she switched over to the prosecution side after he was arrested.

0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:40.560
<v Speaker 1>But she I mean, she said ninety percent of the

0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:43.440
<v Speaker 1>time Yeah, that she was with him was her being

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<v Speaker 1>with another.

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<v Speaker 2>Man and that's not what she wanted. Yeah, ninety percent

0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:47.720
<v Speaker 2>of the time. That was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Andre Lemonde was witness number twenty nine. Another Homeland Security

0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:54.679
<v Speaker 1>agent talked about the raid on the la home. This

0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:59.320
<v Speaker 1>is where nine hundred rode bottles of astroglide and twenty

0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:02.719
<v Speaker 1>excuse me, two hundred bottles of baby oil were found.

0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Nine hundred bottles where like astroglide obviously did he has

0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:11.560
<v Speaker 1>a mansion, but where would you put nine hundred bottles

0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:14.800
<v Speaker 1>of astroglide in this apartment and this one here nine hundred.

0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it looks like. How many boxes

0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:18.639
<v Speaker 1>is that? How's I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like you'd need an entire room, like a

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<v Speaker 2>pantry that's the size of like a New York City

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<v Speaker 2>bedroom to house all of that. I just was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get a visual on that. Seah, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>replace the other visual with this visual of nine hundred

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<v Speaker 2>bottles of astroglide and two hundred bottles of baby oil.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're talking eleven hundred bottles of lubricant.

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<v Speaker 1>I just fill up the tubs, Just fill up the tubs,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Jonathan Perez was witnessed number thirty now another

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<v Speaker 1>former comb Desnic assistant who was granted immunity. Jonathan Perez

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like a good egg for the most part, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and talked about, Yes, as much as I had to

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<v Speaker 1>do with these free COFs and whatnot, he said, that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really a big part of my job.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was. Actually I so nonchalant about some of that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was interesting to me that the prosecution even decided

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<v Speaker 2>to put him up because he really didn't see anything

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<v Speaker 2>too damning, and in fact, it kind of felt more

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<v Speaker 2>favorable to Diddy.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Anya Sanker, the US attorney of paralegal, a

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<v Speaker 1>summary witness, as they say, used her to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>help get some messages on the record. They did the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing with the next witness, Dalisa Penlan, another special

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<v Speaker 1>agent who showed how some hotel charges were paid through

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<v Speaker 1>Bad Boy Entertainment. And then Brendan Paul. It seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>he was delayed and delayed, delayed to get to the stand.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we had some sick jurors, some issues with the jury,

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<v Speaker 2>but yes, one had to be removed. But former Combs assistant,

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<v Speaker 2>and he too was another one where I was curious

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<v Speaker 2>why it was so important for the prosecution to get

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<v Speaker 2>him on, because he really talked about his loyalty to Diddy.

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<v Speaker 2>He talked about the drug thing, yes, but when he

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<v Speaker 2>got arrested, he isn't being charged with any drug charges.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's interesting to me that that was important that

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<v Speaker 2>he Yes, he was the one who was referred to

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<v Speaker 2>or known as in some of these other civil lawsuits

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<v Speaker 2>as Diddy's drug mule. But the big, the big point

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<v Speaker 2>he made in the defense's department was that he never

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<v Speaker 2>saw Jane unhappy. He said, he never saw her that

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<v Speaker 2>in any way express or show any resistance to these

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<v Speaker 2>freakops or sexy part.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, ever, he saw her after every single one,

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<v Speaker 1>he said. He said usually saw her beforehand, but he

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<v Speaker 1>said he absolutely saw her after everyone and never saw her.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that is that is very powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>And the last witness who's up there longer than anticipated.

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph so Cielo c Cillo.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, I'm not really good with Italian names,

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<v Speaker 2>Sir Sircello.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe sir Cillo. Another summary witness, but went through a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of some video. But this was the guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>connecting the dots of okay, here's Diddy on the top,

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<v Speaker 1>then he pays for this. For this, he just connected

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<v Speaker 1>the dots of all these receipts, transactions, travel out iteneraries

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<v Speaker 1>and people to show that he was the one who

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<v Speaker 1>was pulling the strings and running the show.

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<v Speaker 2>We thought he going to be quick and very dry

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<v Speaker 2>and boring, but it turned out that both the prosecution

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<v Speaker 2>and the defense were able to use him to read

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<v Speaker 2>competing text messages, so it actually got really interesting in

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit juicy. Plus because he was there talking

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<v Speaker 2>about these fifty explicit sexual videos. Now you've got the

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<v Speaker 2>jury watching freak off. So actually the last witness ended

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<v Speaker 2>up being very interesting and had a lot of extra

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<v Speaker 2>details we hadn't heard before.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew what they were doing apparently, and we never

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<v Speaker 1>questioned that, by the way, but that's it, folks, we are.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't think they're in open court today for the.

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<v Speaker 2>App don't when we looked it up. It's not usually

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<v Speaker 2>something that is public. And whatever happens, the discussions for

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<v Speaker 2>the jury instructions typically are put in the record for

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<v Speaker 2>people to look at later, but not in real time.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course, if anything happens or anything comes out,

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<v Speaker 2>we will keep you all updated on the very latest

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<v Speaker 2>on the Didy trial. But in the meantime, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much for listening. I'm Amy Roebuck and on behalf

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<v Speaker 2>of T J. Holmes. We hope you guys have a

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful day.