WEBVTT - NFL Week 2 Reaction: Chiefs IN TROUBLE? Baker & Buccaneers BUZZING! Burrow INJURED | Nick Wright

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in What'll Driving the Great Episode three sixty five.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode, as always brought to you by our friends

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<v Speaker 1>at boost Mobile. Demand's a rough weekend for me, no

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<v Speaker 1>getting around it. And it started off so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>rough weekends not even the right way to put it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just a rough Sunday. Because Friday was glorious

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<v Speaker 1>doing the show live from Kansas City. It was an

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<v Speaker 1>all timer, and then Saturday was wildly profitable, hopefully not

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<v Speaker 1>just for me but for our listeners because the great

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Shulman, the What's Right Boxing expert analyst correspondent, did

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<v Speaker 1>an hour with us last week and gave us every

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<v Speaker 1>single reason to bet Terrence Bud Crawford in an upset,

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<v Speaker 1>and Terrence Bud Crawford dominated that five and we were

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<v Speaker 1>rolling and even early Saturday after. It really is just

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs game.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what am I talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Like everything is just a Chiefs game. I got a

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<v Speaker 1>little I feel unlucky with my five picks where I

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<v Speaker 1>ended up going two and three this weekend. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the losses was the Jags plus three and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>They lost by four in a game they gave away

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<v Speaker 1>just card in total Jagsy and fashion gave away, and

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<v Speaker 1>another loss was Arizona laying six and a half. They're

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<v Speaker 1>up twenty seven to eight. Late in the game, Like

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<v Speaker 1>late late in the game, Kyler throws a pick, they

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<v Speaker 1>allow a touchdown, they allow the what might be the

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<v Speaker 1>only successful onside kick of the year, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, not only do they not cover, they almost

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<v Speaker 1>lost the game out right. But as the kids say,

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<v Speaker 1>we move, we're gonna be okay. We'll get to all

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<v Speaker 1>of that. You, on the other hand, just can't lose

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<v Speaker 1>a teaser. Hitting price, You're hitting hitting player props left

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<v Speaker 1>and right. You're just you're on fire over on the

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<v Speaker 1>West Coast.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying. I'm trying. Yeah, teasers look good any best

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend. But but yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay. The teaser looked good. You gave out a

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<v Speaker 1>winning teaser. It's all you can hope for. I will say,

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<v Speaker 1>this team, what's right in the million dollars Splash Sports Survivor.

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<v Speaker 1>We had the Cardinals. We have now used the Jags

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<v Speaker 1>and the Cardinals. We're two and zero. We're feeling good now.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say almost everyone's feeling good about Survivor at

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<v Speaker 1>this point because nobody's lost anything. Oh, one other note

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<v Speaker 1>for the audience. I guess this is also for the

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Duck folks, but it won't actually impact any of

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<v Speaker 1>our schedules or anything. We are now we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to doing what we did at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the pod, where the pick show is released as

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<v Speaker 1>a separate episode on Friday, So we'll be live Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>We will then also after we're live Thursday, do our

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<v Speaker 1>pick show, you know what I mean, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>will come out as its own standalone episode on Fridays.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there was some confusion for folks who because

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<v Speaker 1>we did that this week and I didn't tell you

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<v Speaker 1>guys who listened to Thursday's episode and said where were

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<v Speaker 1>the picks? They were released later as their own thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So just so everybody knows. And by the way, to

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<v Speaker 1>let's get right into it, straight to the voicemail brought

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<v Speaker 1>to you by our friends at boost Mobile. Bad couple

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<v Speaker 1>first few weeks for the skinny football players out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Xavier Worthy's got his shoulder popped out, DeVante Smith looked

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<v Speaker 1>like he might have gotten hurt in the Chiefs game,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jayden Daniels dealing with a knee sprain. That is

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<v Speaker 1>certainly something to monitor. It is, you know, fortunately for him,

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately for the rest of the league, not even close

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<v Speaker 1>to the most dire of the quarterback injuries. This weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to that. Crawford defeats Canelo and gives himself

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<v Speaker 1>a real argument that if you want to call him

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<v Speaker 1>the best pound for pound fighter of your lifetime, you

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<v Speaker 1>can make that case. Now he's forty two to zero.

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<v Speaker 1>He basically jumped three weight classes to beat Canelo, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was an all timer. And I didn't think the

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<v Speaker 1>fight was as close as the judges did. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the if I wasn't having a tough enough week, and

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta be careful. You know, I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>take shots at the NFL, but NFL social media tweeting

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<v Speaker 1>out never a doubt on what was the backbreaking touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>for the Eagles over the Chiefs. Felt pointed and felt personal.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna be honest with you. Now, you can

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<v Speaker 1>say that is egotistical. I don't think it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was very niche.

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<v Speaker 2>That's niche right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, whatever it is, I didn't love it. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>tell you. I didn't love it. And it felt like

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<v Speaker 1>a low blow. Now maybe I'm just a little on

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<v Speaker 1>tilt because of what happened in Chiefs Eagles. So Deman say,

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<v Speaker 1>let's not delay anymore, let's get right into it. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So the Super Bowl rematch was rough for Chiefs

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<v Speaker 2>fans and you. So there's a few things going on.

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<v Speaker 2>The Toush push is still alive, and well, my Holmes

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<v Speaker 2>is struggling to throw the ball deep, it would seem,

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<v Speaker 2>and him and Kelsey have had a few miscues that

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<v Speaker 2>have potentially cost them games. Where would you like to start?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So we're going to start with the chief side

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<v Speaker 1>of things, and then we'll get into the Eagles, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we will do a Toush push discussion. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot and and producers tell me if the mic

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<v Speaker 1>sounds a little better. Now, I am not going to

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<v Speaker 1>sit here and act like everything's fine with the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>right now, it is. There are some I want to

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<v Speaker 1>focus on the concerning things that have occurred in both games. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So for instance, since week one, the secondary, which has

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<v Speaker 1>been a strength of this team, looked hugely problematic against

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<v Speaker 1>Herbert and the Chargers. Week two, I thought the secondary

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<v Speaker 1>looked really good. Right, So like that's the one good game,

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<v Speaker 1>one bad game. I'm not focusing on that. Here is

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<v Speaker 1>what through two weeks looks problematic, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where the solve for it is. The Chiefs running game

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<v Speaker 1>is as inept right now as it's ever been since

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick's been there. Pachecko sadly just does not look like

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<v Speaker 1>the same player he was before he broke his leg.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's odd about it is his biggest problem through

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks doesn't seem to be explosion. It seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be vision and hitting the right hole. You wouldn't think

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<v Speaker 1>that is related to a lower body injury, but he

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<v Speaker 1>just hasn't been effective. Kareem Hunt is who he is.

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<v Speaker 1>He if you need one yard more way, more often

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<v Speaker 1>than not, he will get it for you. But he

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<v Speaker 1>has no chance of getting you ten. And they brought

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<v Speaker 1>in Elijah Mitchell. Nothing's happened there. They drafted Brishard Smith

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<v Speaker 1>in the I think seventh round. He's seventh round rookie.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they just right now don't have the horses in

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<v Speaker 1>the running back room, and that is a spot that

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<v Speaker 1>I would not at all hate for them to be

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<v Speaker 1>active on in the trade market. I think we have.

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<v Speaker 1>There has been a lot of discussion of should the

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs trade for Tyreek Kill? The wide receivers are coming back, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I if I were doing a trade with Miami, I

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<v Speaker 1>might be equally, if not more, interested in Devin h

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<v Speaker 1>Cham Like I think that there are you running backs

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<v Speaker 1>will be and should be available, and that might be

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<v Speaker 1>a spot that they have to bite the bullet and

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<v Speaker 1>spend some draft capital via trade on. So that's one piece,

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<v Speaker 1>and here's another one. As good as Josh Simmons has

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<v Speaker 1>been at the left tackle spot, Patrick still doesn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>totally comfortable in his protection. Now, some of that's been

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<v Speaker 1>the left guard spot's been really problematic, but Creed's great,

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<v Speaker 1>Trey's great, Simmons is really good, Joan Taylor when he's

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<v Speaker 1>not committing penalties is fine, and Patrick just seems like

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't trust it. Right now, and I am as

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<v Speaker 1>confident in Patrick Mahomes as any player that's ever played

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<v Speaker 1>in the league that he will figure stuff out. And

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<v Speaker 1>there have been times this season where it has felt

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<v Speaker 1>like he's out there, I don't want to say by himself,

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<v Speaker 1>but nobody can get opening. They can't run the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>which has forced him to and this is the part

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<v Speaker 1>of the season that I have liked the absolute least.

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<v Speaker 1>It has forced him to activate playoff running Mahomes in

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<v Speaker 1>weeks one and two, and I despise that because obviously

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<v Speaker 1>it puts him in jeopardy, which is the biggest concern.

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<v Speaker 1>But the other thing is one of the reasons he

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<v Speaker 1>has had the postseason success that he's had. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons he has been so much more dynamic and

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<v Speaker 1>effective statistically and from a winning perspective on a per

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<v Speaker 1>game basis than any other quarterback in the history of

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<v Speaker 1>the league come the postseason is because every single postseason

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<v Speaker 1>he adds a huge weapon to his game that is

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<v Speaker 1>not there in the regular season, which is the quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>runs the scrambles. And if he's using that during the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season, it has just multiple concerns. One is he

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<v Speaker 1>can get banged up Another is you're not getting that

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<v Speaker 1>auto postseason boost. Like Josh Allen and Lamar are unbelievable

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<v Speaker 1>runners at the quarterback position. They do it starting in

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<v Speaker 1>week one and never stop. So it doesn't add an

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<v Speaker 1>element to their game come the playoffs. It has for

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick and the last listen issue on offense is the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest tight end in the history of the league has

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<v Speaker 1>had a really rough two weeks. There's no way around it.

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<v Speaker 1>Third play of the season. I thought it was Xavier's mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>He says it was his mistake that he ran the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong depth of his route and Xavier's hurt. Later in

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<v Speaker 1>that game, he and Patrick aren't on quite the same page.

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<v Speaker 1>When they're down nine about to score, they don't connect

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<v Speaker 1>on what would have been a touchdown. And then obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles game, they're about to take the lead and

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<v Speaker 1>he bobbles a pass and it turns into a game

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<v Speaker 1>changing interception. That's all. Highly it's been highly damaging. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's yet highly concerning, but it's highly damaging. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So there is that piece of it on the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>side of the ball. The only complaint I have after

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<v Speaker 1>week two is they cannot seem to get pressure without

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<v Speaker 1>sending a blitz, like if they rush for they just

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<v Speaker 1>cannot get home. So I don't know if that means

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<v Speaker 1>the rookies Ashton Julot or Omar Norman lot need to

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<v Speaker 1>be more effective. Certainly Charles Amena who needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>more effective. Mike Dana got hurt in this game. That

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<v Speaker 1>didn't help. George Karloft has just got paid by this team,

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<v Speaker 1>he needs to be more effective. Like Chris Jones is

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<v Speaker 1>a man on an island at times. And so those

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<v Speaker 1>are real problems, okay, And right now the Chiefs don't

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<v Speaker 1>deserve to be anything close to Super Bowl favorites. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna sit here and act like, ah, they got unlucky,

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<v Speaker 1>they got this. No. If anything, it is surprising that

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<v Speaker 1>they have had a chance to win both of these

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<v Speaker 1>games when they haven't played well. They've missed kicks in

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<v Speaker 1>both games. They haven't forced a turnover. So that is

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<v Speaker 1>the true and fair so analysis of where the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>are through two weeks. Anything past that is nonsense. Anyone

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<v Speaker 1>trying to pedal Wow, should they be worried about making

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs? I think has lost their mind. Now is

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<v Speaker 1>the division for the first time in Jeopardy. Yeah, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're zero to two and a team that beat you

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<v Speaker 1>is two and zero with a divisional win, it's understandable

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<v Speaker 1>that the Chiefs are no longer the favorites in the

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<v Speaker 1>division Demons, And where where does hard Rock Bet have

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<v Speaker 1>them at right now?

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<v Speaker 2>They've got them at plus two forty to win the division?

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<v Speaker 2>Should you hammer that?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, as it's not surprising to you. Probably

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of exposure already on the Chiefs,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, futures and season and win total. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think plus two point forty is good value right now

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<v Speaker 1>when I do right now, if I had to pick it,

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<v Speaker 1>I would still pick the Chiefs to win the division.

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<v Speaker 1>And part of that is some concerning stuff. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>no no from the Chargers the Houston doesn't apply here

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<v Speaker 1>from the Chargers last night late in that game. And

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into that when we talk about the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the Chargers almost went out of their way

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<v Speaker 1>to try to keep the Raiders in that game. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's what's true for Patrick is true for all these quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Any quarterback that's running a ton early in the year,

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<v Speaker 1>I get worried about and justin Herbert's running a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know that I think that, And he took

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<v Speaker 1>a wicked shot yesterday, and then they also had him

0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:12.480
<v Speaker 1>late in the game when the game was decided to

0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:16.280
<v Speaker 1>another quarterback run that I totally didn't understand. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I still believe the Chiefs are the best team in

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<v Speaker 1>the AFC West. You can't right now say they're better

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<v Speaker 1>than Buffalo or Baltimore. You can say, however, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>in a span of two quick weeks, after for the

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<v Speaker 1>last few years the AFC clearly being the better of

0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the two conferences, the NFC right now seems far superior

0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.920
<v Speaker 1>and far deeper. Like demon's a whoa in the AFC

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<v Speaker 1>East Buffalo, Miami, New England, the Jets. There's one team

0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:07.679
<v Speaker 1>you believe in the AFC North, Baltimore, since Pittsburgh, Cleveland.

0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:13.160
<v Speaker 1>There's one team you believe in the AFC South. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>there might be zero teams you believe in unless you

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<v Speaker 1>or the generic you to the audience really does believe

0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.199
<v Speaker 1>what the culture doing is sustainable. I don't know that

0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I believe it. The AFC West, on the other hand,

0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:30.080
<v Speaker 1>might have a bunch of you know, the Chargers, the Broncos,

0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs the Raiders still like it is. It's remarkable

0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:43.040
<v Speaker 1>to me how open the middle part of the conferences,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think it's fair to say the Chiefs

0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:50.800
<v Speaker 1>have basically not punted but giving up the opportunity to

0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.879
<v Speaker 1>be the one seed. You know, I think that's fair.

0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.080
<v Speaker 1>I think there's you know, there are real things they

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<v Speaker 1>need to clean up. I also feel this way, they

0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:10.840
<v Speaker 1>are potentially twelve days away from everyone saying how silly

0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:16.280
<v Speaker 1>we should feel for writing off the Chiefs because you

0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:20.840
<v Speaker 1>beat the Giants this weekend. You didn't have a game

0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:24.840
<v Speaker 1>against Baltimore that if you win, you're right back to

0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:28.119
<v Speaker 1>being the Chiefs and all this stuff about oh, the

0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:31.919
<v Speaker 1>mystique is gone or this or that that's gone like

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<v Speaker 1>that and that conversation is gone, and so big but

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<v Speaker 1>big next few weeks and big stretch of time before

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<v Speaker 1>Rashi comes back. Xavier might be back this weekend. He'll

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<v Speaker 1>definitely be back for the Raven game. And listen, they

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<v Speaker 1>need to have a receiver that can beat man to

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<v Speaker 1>man coverage. And the idea that like Mahomes is being

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<v Speaker 1>exposed without a dynamic receiver is belied by the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he won League MVP with a receiving corps led

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<v Speaker 1>by juju An MBS and the next year won Super

0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:25.879
<v Speaker 1>Bowl MVP with an even worse receiving corps. And last

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<v Speaker 1>year they went fifteen to two and made the Super

0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Bowl with Rashim missing basically the whole year. So I

0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:38.960
<v Speaker 1>think that's too reactionary. But somebody's got to get open

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<v Speaker 1>at some point, all right, before we get to the

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<v Speaker 1>touch push, do you have another one more follow up?

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<v Speaker 1>You want to ask me? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? With how Philly fans are treating you, do you

0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.320
<v Speaker 2>think treating you in person? Are you thinking about taking him?

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<v Speaker 2>And a listens so.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we're joking. I'm gonna be serious about this

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<v Speaker 1>just for a second. The grown adult Eagle fans that

0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:12.480
<v Speaker 1>live in the New York area, and I have more

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<v Speaker 1>sympathy for folks. When I was in Kansas City and

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<v Speaker 1>ran into Eagle fans, I'd love to tell you the

0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:26.879
<v Speaker 1>vast majority were great. They were not. The vast majority

0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:34.719
<v Speaker 1>were obnoxious assholes. A few were great. But I had

0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:39.040
<v Speaker 1>a group of four grown men in golf outfits at

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<v Speaker 1>eight in the morning Friday morning in front of the

0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:47.960
<v Speaker 1>hotel we were both staying at uh Yell like scream

0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:53.000
<v Speaker 1>at me so like that, But but I actually give

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<v Speaker 1>those guys not a pass. You're you flew to town

0:20:57.440 --> 0:21:01.800
<v Speaker 1>for a game. You're alrighty, like you're in game mode. Whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It is like that, that is what it is. The

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<v Speaker 1>Eagle fans that see me on the street in New

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<v Speaker 1>York and a cost me for lack of a better term,

0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:23.800
<v Speaker 1>or just out of their mind, like what like on

0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:27.159
<v Speaker 1>it like like you're just out of your mind? What

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Say it again, what are you doing with your time

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<v Speaker 2>right now?

0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's just you're just you're just like what are

0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:39.080
<v Speaker 1>you doing? You're you're not on the team. And I

0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:46.000
<v Speaker 1>like the like the this is it is forever. I've

0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:51.840
<v Speaker 1>said that. Whenever Demanse says to me like, oh, you're

0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:54.800
<v Speaker 1>getting killed online or people are mad at you or whatever,

0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:58.320
<v Speaker 1>what I've said is no, they're not. Like maybe they are,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't matter because I don't see it. In

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<v Speaker 1>order to tell me your feelings, you gotta see me

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<v Speaker 1>in person. And ninety nine percent of the people who

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<v Speaker 1>see me in person, no matter what they've said online,

0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:22.360
<v Speaker 1>they're incredibly gracious. It is really surprising the level of

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<v Speaker 1>like angst and vitriol a team that is the defending champions,

0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:35.080
<v Speaker 1>their fans have and I find it.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly not worst fan base, but worst fan base to you, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like Buffalo was up there at one point.

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<v Speaker 1>But Buffalo fans were Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I was, you were really I can't be.

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo way more than Philly, and Buffalo fans were always awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>always it is. And Buffalo fans, by the way, never won.

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<v Speaker 1>They never like.

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<v Speaker 2>The the combination is already like a type of way.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like like they're already yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's odd. I'm not I'm not I'm not making

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<v Speaker 1>too big of a deal over it. But I'm not

0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:26.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna act like it's not noticeable that these like thirty

0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:31.439
<v Speaker 1>eight year old it pros on their lunch break that

0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:35.920
<v Speaker 1>see me walking in the city, like, ain't nick right?

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck you? Like ay Man, like we're just like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little weird, like it's just it's just and

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<v Speaker 1>I and I the I just have a auto response

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:56.680
<v Speaker 1>of congrats on the super Bowl, like I don't know

0:23:56.720 --> 0:24:01.560
<v Speaker 1>what interaction you think we're gonna have here, but it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I'm saying is what the you got? They won?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they're mad about. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>there is an element of their identity as sports fans

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:22.480
<v Speaker 1>is anger and they don't know how to deal with

0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:27.640
<v Speaker 1>the fact that they won. And so it is I'm

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:31.679
<v Speaker 1>not gonna like, I'm not gonna pretend it's not weird.

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:36.720
<v Speaker 1>And people the producers asking if it happened with Niner

0:24:36.760 --> 0:24:39.880
<v Speaker 1>fans or Buck fans, I'm telling you, and I am

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<v Speaker 1>not exaggerating, It's never happened with any other fan base

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<v Speaker 1>across any other sport. To me, like, there are some

0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:57.160
<v Speaker 1>true die hard Kobe fans that really disliked me, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>right after Kobe's trying passing, because in that time, any

0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 1>anybody that had you know, tape if you will, of

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 1>what they thought was being unfair to Kobe, those got

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 1>shared a lot, you know, in the moment after it's passing.

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<v Speaker 1>None of those folks. If I were to make a

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<v Speaker 1>list of the twenty worst in person interactions I've had

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 1>with fans since I've been doing this, eighteen of them

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 1>would be Eagle fans. Since they won the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really weird and so like, uh yeah, and so

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 1>it just part of that might be geographically, Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. There's a lot of things, but it

0:25:56.800 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 1>is it is odd, which is why this thing we're

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0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 1>bullshit that is the cheating of the tush push, delights

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<v Speaker 1>push stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So you went on a rant yesterday on TV. Some

0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 2>people would say you went on a line about the

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 2>tush push and now unfair it is. Uh. You've had

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 2>twenty four hours to reconsider. Are you going to walk

0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:08.359
<v Speaker 2>it back? Or are you still sour on it?

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, and you have to be my eyewitness on this,

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 1>demanse Okay, okay, well before the Eagles and Chiefs ever

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 1>played in any Super Bowls, before the Chiefs beat them

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>in the Super Bowl, before the Eagles were a real

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:35.120
<v Speaker 1>top flight contender. When we were doing the show from

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<v Speaker 1>Trentage your mom's store in Harlem together, I hated this play.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you confirm that that is true?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's never been a point that the

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 2>tush push existed and you didn't not like it?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And it started in October of twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>And my argument had always been multi layer. But the

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>basis of it is it's against the spirit of professional

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 1>football because it's a rugby play. It's bad TV and

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>it's a rugby play. And Simmons made this point and

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I agree with him where it is in the same

0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>family as if a team started having guys go piggyback

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:28.280
<v Speaker 1>on each other's backs to blockfield goals at the line

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>of scrimmage, like, oh, is there a specific rule against that?

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but it doesn't feel like what we

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>are supposed to be doing here. There was the old

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Reddit post of what if the Warriors signed for like

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 1>bodybuilders and had those four guys lock arms and Steph

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Curry stand in the middle of them and then shoot

0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>threes where nobody can get through. Like, is there technically

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>a rule against it? I don't know, but it feels

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 1>against the spirit of the sport we're playing. So that's

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>why I've always hated it. It's not because and by

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 1>the way, the Eagles have beaten the Chiefs in one

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:21.239
<v Speaker 1>game that really matters to me, the Super Bowl, and

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>they didn't need the toast push in that Super Bowl.

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>They crushed us. They needed it in the first Super Bowl,

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 1>but the Chiefs won. I don't give a shit about

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the regular season games, so you're just gonna have to

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:34.479
<v Speaker 1>take my word for it, Okay that that has always

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>been my long standing opinion. A. I have had three

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of additional prongs to the opinion, which is, first

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 1>of all, if everyone got good at it, it would

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>really hurt the NFL if third and short or fourth

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>and short were no longer exciting or intriguing plays, that

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>hurts the watchability and intrigue of the league. The second

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>prong was, if the Eagles got better at it, it

0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>would snap ruin the sport. By and by better at it,

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean is right now they can basically get two

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 1>yards whenever they want. All that has to do is

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>changed to four yards and for Philly to be like, okay,

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 1>first play of the game, first and ten from the

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 1>thirty tush pushing the next twelve plays down the field,

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and you'd have to change the rule mid season. But

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:52.239
<v Speaker 1>the third prong has also been this cause one of

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the Eagles defenses is, well, it must not be that

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 1>easy because they're the only ones who can do it

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:06.479
<v Speaker 1>that well, because they're the only ones that on eighty

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 1>percent of them half their team is offsides and the

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 1>guards are firing early, and thankfully Tom Brady and Dean

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Blandino shined a spotlight on that it is hard enough

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>to stop as is, but when every other snap of

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:36.840
<v Speaker 1>the game, just think about how you're watching football. Every

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>other snap you can see the ball from the above

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>shot because it's in front of the center and then

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line is in a slight arc where the

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>center is the furthest out, but his head's behind the ball,

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the guards are a little bit behind him, and the

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>tackles are a little bit behind them, except for tackles

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 1>like Lane Johnson for the Joan Taylor for the Chiefs

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>who are quite a bit, you know, behind to get

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>a little early jump the tush push. You can't see

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 1>the ball because the center is that the ball is

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:15.840
<v Speaker 1>behind where the sinner is, like where the sinner's head is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's illegal, And you don't know when the ball's been

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 1>snapped because you can't see it, which for the refs

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 1>makes it impossible to tell. Wait, did the guards go

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>early to get an advantage just by a quarter of

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 1>a second? And you had to say, what's a quarter

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 1>of a second? We see every day in the NFL

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>an offensive linemen just barely shift back in his stance.

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>It's a flag that is happening on steroids. Eighty percent

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>of Eagles tush pushes. Go back and watch the Vikings

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 1>try it on Sunday Night football and what you'll see

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>is there lined up like a regular play and those

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:04.720
<v Speaker 1>can be stomped.

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 2>So you.

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<v Speaker 1>If the commissioner of the league doesn't want it, twenty

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 1>two of the thirty one other teams don't want it,

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<v Speaker 1>at the very least, can it be officiated correctly? At

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the very least can because here's the thing, demonse a

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 1>false start penalty on push push plays is devastating because

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 1>they're going for fourth downs they wouldn't otherwise go for

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. It's not like a false

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:43.040
<v Speaker 1>start on first and ten is not that big of

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 1>a deal. A false start on fourth and one, when

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:50.120
<v Speaker 1>you're either at the goal line or on your own

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>thirty five, as the Eagles are wont to do any

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:58.959
<v Speaker 1>of those spots, totally changes the math entirely. And here

0:34:59.080 --> 0:34:59.760
<v Speaker 1>is why.

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 2>So they're cheating.

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm not gonna call him cheating because they're doing

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 1>what the refs will let him get away with. I'm

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 1>asking here is my belief. A little over two years ago,

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:22.319
<v Speaker 1>in Juwan Taylor's first game as a chief, I think

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 1>it was his first game. I know it was first

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 1>game of the season regardless, against the Detroit Lions, Chris

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Collinsworth made a point to harp On on the broadcast.

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 1>He is jumping early, and it's something he had always

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 1>done in Jacksonville before he came to Kansas City. It

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:52.239
<v Speaker 1>had never really been a problem, but Collinsworth pointed it

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:55.760
<v Speaker 1>out on the broadcast, and all of a sudden, every

0:35:55.880 --> 0:36:00.359
<v Speaker 1>ref was attuned to it, and he snapped me came

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 1>the most penalized player in the league. What I wonder

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 1>is will Tom Brady having focused on that they are

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:19.320
<v Speaker 1>jumping early on the tush push, and then Dean Blandino

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 1>coming on the same broadcast and saying, yeah, guys, I'm

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 1>done with the toush push. It's too hard to officiate.

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Will that make the officiating crews across the country more aware, Oh,

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 1>this is something we have to watch because if Philly

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:45.319
<v Speaker 1>starts just even occasionally getting false starts on it, it

0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 1>massively recaps its effectiveness. And my prediction is that, oh,

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see. I didn't know that. I missed that

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 1>last night where the refs made the Chargers uh O

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:11.799
<v Speaker 1>line adjust how they were gonna tush push because of

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 1>how they were lined up. I'll watch that. Thanks guys

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 1>for going that in the in the doc. But my

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:25.359
<v Speaker 1>guess is they're now aware that what they're doing is

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 1>not allowed, and it certainly is going to be banned

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 1>after this year. I think there is no doubt about it.

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:37.520
<v Speaker 1>But I just wonder if it's going to lose some

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 1>effectiveness during the year. Luckily, Philly will be fine without

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>it because Jalen Hurts is such a prolific downfield passer

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:47.240
<v Speaker 1>this season.

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that that graphic was pretty crazy.

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:59.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and that's not that different from week one

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 1>where now he hit the one deep ball to Johan Dotson.

0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>In week one, he hit the one deep ball to

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 1>DeVante Smith in week two. That's boring, Jailen listen. Jalen

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Hurts is not a dynamic drop back passer. He is

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 1>better than what we've seen through two weeks, and to

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 1>not be giving him the opportunities to hit Aj Brown

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 1>down the field is odd and I think that there

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:47.279
<v Speaker 1>is right now. What is keeping that afloat is not

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:51.640
<v Speaker 1>a float but under wraps is that they've won okay,

0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:58.440
<v Speaker 1>because I think aj is not all too pleased about

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:03.400
<v Speaker 1>not getting opportunities. And I say that because Aj Brown

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 1>told us himself, let me see if I can find it.

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 1>There is going to have a j Brown told us himself,

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 1>what'd you say, demanse?

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:14.840
<v Speaker 2>So they said he was going to have the Kuran

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 2>memorized by the end of the season.

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh so here Aj Brown on Instagram four days after

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:30.720
<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl quote. I tried to feel how everyone

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:33.719
<v Speaker 1>made it seem to be a champion and fortunately it

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 1>was short lived two days to be exact. Lol, I've

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:40.319
<v Speaker 1>never been a champion at the highest level before, but

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I thought my hard work would be justified by winning

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:47.280
<v Speaker 1>it all. It wasn't My thrill for this game comes

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 1>when I dominate. It's the hunt that does it for me.

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:55.840
<v Speaker 1>It's when the dB drops his head and surrenders because

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 1>he can't f with me. That is AJ Brown's own work.

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:05.239
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know how happy AJ Brown is with

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:11.919
<v Speaker 1>what is been the Eagles offense up to this point.

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get Demond's a too. The Joe Burrow

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 1>injury in the Bengals.

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow was knocked out early with a turf toe injury.

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 2>So he's gonna get surgery and he's gonna miss at

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 2>least three months. And this is his third major injury.

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Where did the Bengals go from here without Burrow?

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 1>All right, remember our rules, guys on NFL injury announcements. Okay,

0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 1>if the initial reporting is he's fine, it means he

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 1>might miss a week. If the initial reporting is escaped

0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 1>major injury, he's probably out a month. If the initial

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 1>reporting is the team is highly concerned, he's almost assuredly

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:11.240
<v Speaker 1>out a year. In the new age of NFL insider media,

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:16.920
<v Speaker 1>for some reason there is this. I would imagine it's

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:22.560
<v Speaker 1>a request by agents to always put the sunniest possible

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:28.440
<v Speaker 1>time frame on injuries. So when the initial reporting is

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 1>at least three months for Joe Burrow, you should read

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 1>that to mean he has done for the season. Okay,

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>you like there, And here's why the reporting stuff on

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>it matters. So I saw some people yesterday like doing

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 1>the math. They're like, all right, three months, so October November,

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:52.120
<v Speaker 1>So he could be back by mid December if the

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:54.759
<v Speaker 1>Bengals already two to zero, if they can, you know,

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:57.440
<v Speaker 1>just play five hundred ball, then he's back for the

0:41:57.480 --> 0:41:59.960
<v Speaker 1>stretch run, gets a few games under his belt before

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. No chance, No, that's that's not realistic. Sadly,

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow is almost assuredly done for the year, and

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:23.960
<v Speaker 1>there is This was not a fluke. This was I

0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 1>don't want to call it predictable, but all off season.

0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:34.080
<v Speaker 1>And you guys know this if you listen to this show,

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:37.840
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0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:41.400
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0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Leave us a review if you'd like, certainly give us

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 1>five stars. If you don't mind. The Bengals conversation was

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 1>simply a well, if the defense can just get a

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:56.800
<v Speaker 1>little bit better, we know the offense is gonna be great.

0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 1>And I said more than once one of the reasons

0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:07.439
<v Speaker 1>I was not a Bengals believer was I thought their

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 1>offensive line, which already had been shaky, was worse this

0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:19.880
<v Speaker 1>year potentially than it was last year. And through two games,

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:23.400
<v Speaker 1>really a game and a half, you saw Joe Burrow

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:30.319
<v Speaker 1>getting the hell knocked out of him, and so part

0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:35.879
<v Speaker 1>of that is a team failing. Right. Here's another thing,

0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:42.919
<v Speaker 1>and this is something that it's just the reality. It's

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 1>demand say. You might think this is harsh. I don't

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 1>mean it to be, but I think if you watch

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals, this is something Joe Burrow needed to improve

0:43:54.480 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 1>on and didn't. He is so he is so often

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:06.760
<v Speaker 1>hunting the big play downfield, even when there's guys diving

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 1>at his legs, like the pockets breaking down. He he

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:13.239
<v Speaker 1>has such and it's one of the reasons he's so

0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:17.000
<v Speaker 1>great is because he's gonna stand in there and you know,

0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:22.359
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to honestly like the way Patrick played last year,

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 1>which is nope, get get rid of the ball, get

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:29.439
<v Speaker 1>rid of you know, he the the example I gave,

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:32.280
<v Speaker 1>and you're too young to really have watched this guy.

0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Burrow oddly plays within the pocket a lot like Big

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Bended where it is, there's gonna be guys hanging all

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>over me. And I'm gonna but Big Ben for he

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 1>was named Big Ben for a reason. You know what

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he was huge, He was incredibly durable. That's

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 1>not so like, I'm not blaming Joe Burrow for being hurt.

0:44:56.560 --> 0:45:00.279
<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying is the style he hasn't a just

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 1>in his style of play, given how critical he is

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:11.880
<v Speaker 1>to that team having any shot. And so now this

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:17.399
<v Speaker 1>is a player who and this is the worst, I mean,

0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 1>the worst accolade imaginable. He has a real chance, demons,

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:28.799
<v Speaker 1>to become the only guy in the history of the

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:36.319
<v Speaker 1>NFL to win the Comeback Player of the Year three times.

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:39.879
<v Speaker 1>He's already won it twice. You don't want that man.

0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:44.160
<v Speaker 1>That's like, you know, he blew out his knee as

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 1>a rookie, came back and won it. He got his

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 1>elbow torn up a couple of years ago, came back

0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:56.239
<v Speaker 1>and won it. And now he's gonna have played a

0:45:56.280 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 1>game and a half this year, and.

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:01.600
<v Speaker 2>So saving Grace said, it's like a toe thing though

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:07.600
<v Speaker 2>at least it's you know, it's knee. Oh that's unfortunately

0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:08.120
<v Speaker 2>he's injured.

0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:11.759
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't You would not expect this at all to

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 1>have next year impacts. Yes, I agree, you know what

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you expect him to come back the exact

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 1>same player. Right. The flip side of that is he's

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:28.360
<v Speaker 1>now had three catastrophic injuries to three totally unrelated parts

0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:32.400
<v Speaker 1>of his body, you know what I mean, Like the

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:38.319
<v Speaker 1>is yeah, I mean you've had some similar yeah, just

0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:42.319
<v Speaker 1>everywhere stop there where right the where it's like, man,

0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I've got I've dealt with a shoulder, I've dealt with

0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:47.399
<v Speaker 1>an ankle, I've dealt with this, Like for Joe, he's

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:52.000
<v Speaker 1>dealt with an acl some weird elbow ligament thing and

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:55.799
<v Speaker 1>now turf toe, which never happens to quarterbacks. And so

0:46:56.320 --> 0:47:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I and this idea that producers, if you guys don't

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 1>mind check on hard rock what the Bengals are right now? Yes, no,

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:11.440
<v Speaker 1>to make the playoffs, because there is I guess a

0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:15.560
<v Speaker 1>level of well they are two to zero with two

0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:21.480
<v Speaker 1>divisional wins, like can they can they overcome this? And

0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:24.879
<v Speaker 1>Jake Browning obviously when he played a couple of years ago,

0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:29.920
<v Speaker 1>played well enough and they went five hundred. I just

0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:37.279
<v Speaker 1>think their next month demonse of defenses. Three of these

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:42.319
<v Speaker 1>games on the road. They're at Minnesota at Denver, home

0:47:42.400 --> 0:47:48.279
<v Speaker 1>for Detroit at green Bay. Yeah, that feels like one

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:52.319
<v Speaker 1>in three at best, and a real possibility, and I

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 1>hate to say it, but a real possibility that Browning

0:47:56.600 --> 0:48:01.120
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make it through that like it with that offensive

0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:04.400
<v Speaker 1>line the way it is. And they they signed Sean

0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Clifford to the practice squad today, which they have to like,

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'm trying to see. Oh, they already

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:18.240
<v Speaker 1>they on their practice squad. They already had Brett Rippen

0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:20.200
<v Speaker 1>and Mike White, Like, go.

0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:22.480
<v Speaker 2>And get Anthony Richardson from the Colts or something.

0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:36.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's interesting. Kirk Cousins, Kurkut there somewhere, Trey Lance interesting.

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:39.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know, Like right now, Jake Browning

0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:42.640
<v Speaker 1>is a better option than all those guys, definitively, except

0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:45.840
<v Speaker 1>for maybe Kirk, and maybe Kirk as well. Browning's fine.

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:51.799
<v Speaker 1>But so they're on hard rock. Bet they're to make

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. No minus two ten, Yes plus one sixty five.

0:48:56.120 --> 0:48:59.480
<v Speaker 1>That seems a little optimistic. That also, though, speaks to

0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the power being two and oh with two conference wins

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 1>and two and oh in the AFC. Right now, all right,

0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:07.600
<v Speaker 1>let's follow up here, pal.

0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Uh Yeah, how did you guy Trevor not pull this

0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 2>out against Jake Browning? And the guy threw three picks?

0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:18.399
<v Speaker 2>What what happened there?

0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 1>That was such a horrifying loss for the Jags? I

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:28.319
<v Speaker 1>mean Browning threw three picks, including one that just has

0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:36.880
<v Speaker 1>to end the game. So the when the Jags are

0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:40.760
<v Speaker 1>up twenty seven to twenty four early in the fourth,

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:45.560
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals go three and out. The Jags then have

0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:50.240
<v Speaker 1>a nine play drive. They end with a punt. Jake

0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Browning then throws an interception that is returned to the

0:50:00.440 --> 0:50:05.080
<v Speaker 1>bet to the Bengals twenty I'm sorry twelve yard line.

0:50:05.320 --> 0:50:09.040
<v Speaker 1>The Jags have the ball, they're up three, they have

0:50:09.200 --> 0:50:13.280
<v Speaker 1>first and ten from the twelve with five minutes left,

0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:21.120
<v Speaker 1>and they lose man they they I I'm not gonna

0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:25.359
<v Speaker 1>kill Liam Cohen for going for that fourth down. You

0:50:25.360 --> 0:50:30.520
<v Speaker 1>guys have heard me say before. I oddly prefer sometimes

0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:33.319
<v Speaker 1>to be up three than up six. I hate the

0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:36.279
<v Speaker 1>up six, like up three. It feels like the other

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:39.520
<v Speaker 1>team's a little more conservative. They will obviously kick a

0:50:39.560 --> 0:50:44.239
<v Speaker 1>field goal, so I didn't blame him saying a touchdown

0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 1>wins us this game. If we don't pick it up,

0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:50.000
<v Speaker 1>you know we're giving it to you at the eight

0:50:50.800 --> 0:50:54.600
<v Speaker 1>and you're less likely to be so aggressive. And maybe

0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:57.840
<v Speaker 1>they should have won. Sorry, my allergies are killing. Maybe

0:50:57.840 --> 0:51:00.680
<v Speaker 1>they should have won because I thought that Travis Hunter

0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:05.880
<v Speaker 1>pass interference was a bad call. But you cannot find

0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:08.919
<v Speaker 1>a way to lose that game. And early in the game,

0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Trevor with a vintage Trevor mistake. It's seven, oh, Jacksonville.

0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:16.520
<v Speaker 1>The Bengals go three and out. The Jags move the

0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:22.799
<v Speaker 1>ball right down the field, and that on third and

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:26.960
<v Speaker 1>goal from the eight, Trevor just throws a hope of

0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:30.240
<v Speaker 1>a prayer that gets picked off. Now, his other pass

0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 1>that got picked off was Brian Thomas Junior, who had

0:51:34.120 --> 0:51:38.439
<v Speaker 1>a alligator arm situation the whole game. But in Brian

0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Thomas Junior's defense, Trevor's gotta stop throwing these hospital balls,

0:51:42.520 --> 0:51:47.760
<v Speaker 1>man like. That was a great opportunity for the Jags

0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:53.040
<v Speaker 1>and to let to lose a game. When Joe Burrow

0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:55.960
<v Speaker 1>gets hurt and Jake Browning throws three picks and by

0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 1>the way, Trevor throws for two seventy and three touchdowns.

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:02.040
<v Speaker 1>You run for a buck forty. It's just such a

0:52:02.160 --> 0:52:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Jags loss. Just such a Jags loss. Shout out page, Beckers,

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:12.720
<v Speaker 1>she won Rookie of the Year. Breaking news.

0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Shout out page. Who do you think was more wrong? Hey,

0:52:16.400 --> 0:52:18.680
<v Speaker 2>coach Liam calling for telling his quarterback where to throw

0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:20.920
<v Speaker 2>the ball, or Trevor were waving his coach.

0:52:20.719 --> 0:52:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Off, Liam? You can't, you can't you listen, You just

0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:31.880
<v Speaker 1>you can do that privately on the sideline. Yeah, barking

0:52:31.920 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 1>at your quarterback when he is trying like he's still

0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:39.480
<v Speaker 1>like has to call a play, run a play. There's that.

0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:44.920
<v Speaker 1>That to me was ridiculous. All right, demons, let's quickly.

0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:47.040
<v Speaker 1>We got a lot more to do here, So let's go.

0:52:47.160 --> 0:52:49.200
<v Speaker 1>We'll go quickly through the rest of the game before

0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:52.600
<v Speaker 1>we go to our Monday staple. All the games that

0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:56.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't get their own section, we're gonna we're gonna give them,

0:52:56.400 --> 0:52:58.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, twenty or thirty seconds each. So we had

0:52:58.400 --> 0:52:59.880
<v Speaker 1>every game in the league this weekend.

0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:02.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh, so the Bucks moved to two to zero after

0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:05.480
<v Speaker 2>a late score led by Baker late in the game.

0:53:05.560 --> 0:53:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Is betting Baker down a score late in the game

0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:10.359
<v Speaker 2>as much of a lock is good of a lock

0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:11.000
<v Speaker 2>these days?

0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, listen, shout out producer Daniel, who texted the group

0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:22.719
<v Speaker 1>when Baker got the ball back down five. You know,

0:53:22.920 --> 0:53:26.560
<v Speaker 1>is this an auto bet? And I think we you know,

0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I bet it. I think he bet it. I also

0:53:29.640 --> 0:53:36.520
<v Speaker 1>had the Bucks parlayed with the Raiders, so I'm glad

0:53:36.600 --> 0:53:38.919
<v Speaker 1>I bet it because I ended up losing that one,

0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:43.040
<v Speaker 1>so this made up for it. I couple things about that.

0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:47.960
<v Speaker 1>One is about the specific game, and then I'll get

0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:54.160
<v Speaker 1>to Baker. I never feel like teams or very often

0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:59.600
<v Speaker 1>announcers make a big enough deal of the two point

0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:03.960
<v Speaker 1>convert version to go up seven. So last night the

0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Texans Nick Chubb breaks off this great run, so they

0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:14.239
<v Speaker 1>score with how much time is left? When they score two?

0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Ten left, and that two point conversion they go for

0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:26.080
<v Speaker 1>there is just so wildly important because you get it

0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:31.400
<v Speaker 1>and likely overtimes. The worst case scenario, you don't get it,

0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:35.640
<v Speaker 1>and you almost feel like, man, do we wish Chub

0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:39.919
<v Speaker 1>hadn't have scored, because if Chubb, if Chubb had gone

0:54:40.040 --> 0:54:44.719
<v Speaker 1>down and then you're in a position where because they

0:54:44.760 --> 0:54:49.279
<v Speaker 1>were at the time Houston was down, what would they

0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:54.359
<v Speaker 1>have been down? They were down four? Right then, I'm

0:54:54.360 --> 0:55:00.120
<v Speaker 1>an idiot? Why can I not get this right? The

0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:03.080
<v Speaker 1>they got? Why am I so dumb? Right now? The

0:55:03.120 --> 0:55:10.480
<v Speaker 1>score of the game five was fourteen thirteen. Yeah, jesus,

0:55:10.640 --> 0:55:13.440
<v Speaker 1>they're down one. I'm such What the hell just happened there?

0:55:15.200 --> 0:55:20.200
<v Speaker 1>And if Chubb doesn't score, all of a sudden, Tampa

0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:23.080
<v Speaker 1>is having to use its timeouts. You're kicking a field goal,

0:55:23.440 --> 0:55:26.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, potentially later. But Chubb does score, that's great.

0:55:26.480 --> 0:55:29.239
<v Speaker 1>You want the seven, but what you need is the eight.

0:55:29.680 --> 0:55:32.680
<v Speaker 1>They don't get the two point conversion, and now Baker's

0:55:33.320 --> 0:55:36.720
<v Speaker 1>in business. All three timeouts two minutes. Can get going

0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:39.959
<v Speaker 1>with that said, Texans had him in fourth and ten,

0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and then Baker did some really cool Baker stuff, escaping

0:55:44.040 --> 0:55:50.120
<v Speaker 1>the rush, running seemingly got hurt, then got saved by

0:55:50.880 --> 0:55:53.759
<v Speaker 1>the fact that Chauncey Gardner Johnson was talking trash and

0:55:53.760 --> 0:55:55.480
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden he wasn't hurt anymore, and he

0:55:55.520 --> 0:55:58.080
<v Speaker 1>popped up to talk trash right back to him. Baker's

0:55:58.160 --> 0:56:03.480
<v Speaker 1>just the best, and Baker absolutely can win league MVP

0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:08.319
<v Speaker 1>this year. Absolutely can and the Bucks absolutely can be

0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:16.480
<v Speaker 1>the one seed as predicted on this show. Bucks, No,

0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:23.360
<v Speaker 1>why would I? I mean, they have played two road

0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:29.000
<v Speaker 1>games against teams that were considered either possible or likely

0:56:29.080 --> 0:56:34.280
<v Speaker 1>playoff teams. They could have lost both, and Baker made

0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:38.399
<v Speaker 1>game winning plays in the waning moments of both. Now

0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:41.400
<v Speaker 1>they get the Jets, then a tough home game against

0:56:41.440 --> 0:56:47.760
<v Speaker 1>the Eagles, but they play the Eagles really well. Seahawks, Niners, Lions.

0:56:47.800 --> 0:56:51.600
<v Speaker 1>It's not easy. But no, they've got a really.

0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Sure missing a couple of guys on offense right now to.

0:56:54.200 --> 0:56:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, absolutely, Godlin's going to be coming back. No, now

0:56:58.520 --> 0:57:03.319
<v Speaker 1>I think they lost excuse me, Elijah Cantsey in that game.

0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 1>That's that's concerning. But no, the Bucks are for real now.

0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:14.960
<v Speaker 1>On the Baker piece of it, it really gets lost

0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:17.920
<v Speaker 1>in the shuffle, Demons, not lost in the shuffle. But

0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I just want to reiterate this that the Cleveland Browns

0:57:23.160 --> 0:57:28.320
<v Speaker 1>spent the number one overall pick on Baker Mayfield watched

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:35.000
<v Speaker 1>him in his second year win a playoff game for them,

0:57:36.280 --> 0:57:38.080
<v Speaker 1>and then they were like, yeah, he's not good enough

0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:43.280
<v Speaker 1>for us. They're like, yeah, we can do better. You're

0:57:43.320 --> 0:57:51.440
<v Speaker 1>the Cleveland Browns, and you decided that Baker Mayfield was

0:57:51.520 --> 0:57:54.640
<v Speaker 1>not h And I said in his second year he

0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:56.760
<v Speaker 1>won the playoff game. It was in his third year

0:57:56.800 --> 0:58:01.320
<v Speaker 1>he won the playoff game. Pardon me, you decided a

0:58:01.400 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 1>guy who won a playoff game as a Browns homegrown

0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:10.480
<v Speaker 1>starting quarterback wasn't good enough for you because Odell Beckham

0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Junior's dad put out Instagram mixtape ripping It. In a

0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:21.400
<v Speaker 1>year he played hurt It and and now you're just

0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:28.560
<v Speaker 1>in hell. It's really really unbelievable. And I love seeing

0:58:28.600 --> 0:58:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Baker have this success. I love it so much. The

0:58:33.000 --> 0:58:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Flip side demons is Panic meter is at a seven

0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:43.680
<v Speaker 1>for the Texans and for CJ.

0:58:48.040 --> 0:58:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Like, if you're losing, like after, he shouldn't bring it

0:58:50.440 --> 0:58:52.000
<v Speaker 2>out in the third game. He's done at the first

0:58:52.040 --> 0:58:53.440
<v Speaker 2>two games. He shouldn't be.

0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:55.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. I'll be honest, I don't even

0:58:55.920 --> 0:58:56.920
<v Speaker 1>know what you're talking about.

0:58:57.520 --> 0:59:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's probably algorithm. Well, CJ, he's like doing

0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:04.560
<v Speaker 2>between the legs, walking up and down the field, maybe

0:59:04.800 --> 0:59:07.480
<v Speaker 2>throwing out your receivers or something. Guys need to be

0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:11.560
<v Speaker 2>more in tune. But yeah, while losing that you can't

0:59:11.560 --> 0:59:12.040
<v Speaker 2>be doing that.

0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Just feel like the sport. No I like it. I mean,

0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean I like your your critique of it.

0:59:22.440 --> 0:59:24.800
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, like you said, ever since he said that

0:59:24.840 --> 0:59:27.120
<v Speaker 2>thing to Caleb Williams, it's just kind of been on

0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:28.160
<v Speaker 2>a downward slope.

0:59:28.960 --> 0:59:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Contractually obligated to give you guys the numbers on this one, CJ. Stroud.

0:59:35.240 --> 0:59:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Let me see if I can get Football Reference to

0:59:37.800 --> 0:59:43.000
<v Speaker 1>cooperate with me. CJ. Stroud through that game with Caleb

0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Williams in the regular season in his career, eleven and six,

0:59:49.880 --> 0:59:56.240
<v Speaker 1>twenty six touchdowns, five picks, a one oh one rating. CJ.

0:59:56.440 --> 1:00:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Stroud since he told Caleb one, coming here, a young fellow,

1:00:01.240 --> 1:00:04.840
<v Speaker 1>let me teach you a thing or two. Eight and nine,

1:00:05.640 --> 1:00:12.440
<v Speaker 1>eighteen touchdowns, thirteen picks and eighty five rating, life can

1:00:12.480 --> 1:00:16.560
<v Speaker 1>come out. You're fast, man. And the Texans offensive operation

1:00:16.880 --> 1:00:19.960
<v Speaker 1>just does not look good. The defense is still awesome.

1:00:20.360 --> 1:00:25.280
<v Speaker 1>But what the Texans have going for them, obviously, is

1:00:25.320 --> 1:00:28.360
<v Speaker 1>the division they're in, and if you don't believe in

1:00:29.240 --> 1:00:36.400
<v Speaker 1>the Colts, that division's gonna feel winnable. But they they're

1:00:36.600 --> 1:00:38.480
<v Speaker 1>at Jacksonville this weekend.

1:00:38.840 --> 1:00:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Big game.

1:00:39.480 --> 1:00:44.400
<v Speaker 1>That's that's for both teams. Big game, big game, then

1:00:44.440 --> 1:00:47.760
<v Speaker 1>they get a little respit against the Titans. Then it's

1:00:47.880 --> 1:00:55.360
<v Speaker 1>at the Ravens at Seattle gets tough man, and so yeah,

1:00:55.440 --> 1:00:58.760
<v Speaker 1>I'd be I'd be a little more than a little

1:00:58.800 --> 1:01:00.800
<v Speaker 1>nervous if I were the Texans. All right, let's get

1:01:00.800 --> 1:01:04.320
<v Speaker 1>to the other Monday night game.

1:01:04.640 --> 1:01:07.520
<v Speaker 2>So the Chargers look good again for the most part

1:01:07.640 --> 1:01:11.200
<v Speaker 2>last night with another divisional win. Do you think this

1:01:11.280 --> 1:01:12.880
<v Speaker 2>is the cream of the crop in that division?

1:01:14.520 --> 1:01:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Listen, I think the Chiefs will end up winning the division,

1:01:19.200 --> 1:01:23.480
<v Speaker 1>but I have to give the Chargers have looked really good. Now.

1:01:23.520 --> 1:01:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I thought the Chargers at the end of the game,

1:01:25.440 --> 1:01:31.840
<v Speaker 1>as I said earlier, made some really really poor game

1:01:31.920 --> 1:01:37.120
<v Speaker 1>management decisions, and I don't understand like the Chargers. It's fine,

1:01:37.160 --> 1:01:40.959
<v Speaker 1>I guess, but it is odd to me that both

1:01:41.000 --> 1:01:45.520
<v Speaker 1>the Chargers and Otter for the Raiders spent such premium

1:01:45.640 --> 1:01:48.720
<v Speaker 1>draft picks on running backs and don't want to give

1:01:48.760 --> 1:01:52.960
<v Speaker 1>him the ball, Like the Raiders refusal to get Ashton

1:01:53.040 --> 1:01:56.040
<v Speaker 1>gent involved, and it's like, because he's not good in

1:01:56.080 --> 1:01:59.080
<v Speaker 1>pass protection, we'll just have I understand, you don't want

1:01:59.080 --> 1:02:02.000
<v Speaker 1>to tip your hand on oh we're running this guy's

1:02:02.360 --> 1:02:05.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, on the field. But you can't spend the

1:02:05.240 --> 1:02:09.240
<v Speaker 1>sixth pick of the draft on a guy he was,

1:02:09.400 --> 1:02:12.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, and give him eleven carries in a game

1:02:12.240 --> 1:02:15.840
<v Speaker 1>where Gino's having the worst game of his career. Just

1:02:15.880 --> 1:02:21.760
<v Speaker 1>can't do it. And myke, the Chargers defense looks awesome

1:02:22.760 --> 1:02:26.520
<v Speaker 1>and Herbert's been really good. My only Charger concern is

1:02:27.040 --> 1:02:30.120
<v Speaker 1>I think Herbert's running it too much, and that is

1:02:30.960 --> 1:02:34.200
<v Speaker 1>concerning the other piece of that game is and do

1:02:34.280 --> 1:02:38.800
<v Speaker 1>we have any reporting on what Khalil Mack's injury was.

1:02:40.960 --> 1:02:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I know that he was in a sling and he

1:02:43.320 --> 1:02:46.280
<v Speaker 1>was holding his arm and so that didn't look good.

1:02:46.560 --> 1:02:52.120
<v Speaker 1>That could be really damaging as well the Raiders. The

1:02:52.240 --> 1:02:54.440
<v Speaker 1>It would have been amazing if the Raiders could have

1:02:54.520 --> 1:02:57.640
<v Speaker 1>started three and oh, all right, I'm sorry two and zero,

1:03:00.520 --> 1:03:05.080
<v Speaker 1>but they'll they'll take one and one, especially because Demons

1:03:05.120 --> 1:03:09.520
<v Speaker 1>a Raiders next four at the Commanders in a game

1:03:09.720 --> 1:03:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Jaden might not play, then Home Bears at Calls Home Titans.

1:03:15.800 --> 1:03:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Raiders really need to make hey this next month and

1:03:19.040 --> 1:03:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Geno will bounce back. That was a really rough Geno game.

1:03:22.440 --> 1:03:24.640
<v Speaker 1>And we talked a little bit about the Chargers earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, guys, I am so excited and that I might,

1:03:32.560 --> 1:03:37.240
<v Speaker 1>for the first time in years go to a Chiefs

1:03:37.920 --> 1:03:41.720
<v Speaker 1>road game. You know why because the Chiefs are playing

1:03:42.160 --> 1:03:45.080
<v Speaker 1>in the New York area when they play the Giants,

1:03:45.120 --> 1:03:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, a must win game against

1:03:49.200 --> 1:03:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the New York Giants. And if I do go, you

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<v Speaker 1>You just see it again. The big green dots are

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<v Speaker 1>the best stay away from the red dots. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to be able to get some comped

1:04:37.040 --> 1:04:45.320
<v Speaker 1>tickets to Crawford Canelo. But long story short, my guy

1:04:45.600 --> 1:04:48.160
<v Speaker 1>who has a guy who I thought was gonna get

1:04:48.200 --> 1:04:56.680
<v Speaker 1>the tickets. The guy, my guy's guy came down with shingles.

1:04:57.240 --> 1:05:00.520
<v Speaker 1>So he wasn't gonna go, so we couldn't get the tickets.

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<v Speaker 1>More of the story is I had promised a friend.

1:05:03.800 --> 1:05:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, hey, I'll get you some tickets to

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<v Speaker 1>Crawford Canal. I should be able to get them, don't

1:05:08.200 --> 1:05:13.080
<v Speaker 1>buy them, and then I forgot and then he texts

1:05:13.120 --> 1:05:16.920
<v Speaker 1>me on Friday, Hey, man, just a reminder, you never

1:05:16.960 --> 1:05:19.760
<v Speaker 1>sent me the tickets. I'm in Vegas, so you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I did. I just kind of bit the bullet.

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<v Speaker 1>my spot with Colin. We got to keep going. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get to the other games, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Lions are looking good or back to looking

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<v Speaker 2>good again. They demolish the Bears fifty two to twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Your guy Caleb saw his stock plummet a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>The bigger story here the Lions domination or how bad

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<v Speaker 2>the Bears are.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, I actually don't think Caleb Stock took a hit

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<v Speaker 1>in this game. I didn't think he was great. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he was fine. The story when a team allows

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two, the story can't be the team who allowed

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two to their quarterback. The story can either be

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<v Speaker 1>their defense or the other team's offense. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>the story is the Lions kind of having a a

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<v Speaker 1>don't write us off, you know, after one bad game

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<v Speaker 1>reminder and go off looking really good and Dan Campbell

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<v Speaker 1>getting a little get back and So that to me

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<v Speaker 1>is the story of that game. Is Detroit steadied itself

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<v Speaker 1>after the playoff game goes terrible, Week one goes terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>and they know they're staring down a game in Baltimore

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend. So had they started oh and two, it

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<v Speaker 1>get late early for the Detroit Lions. Instead, they demolish

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears, and the Bears, on the other hand, are

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<v Speaker 1>feeling like, man, oh man, you know how far away

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<v Speaker 1>are we from just being a good team, much less

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<v Speaker 1>a great team? And right now they look really far Again.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not think this was a Caleb game as

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<v Speaker 1>far as the story. He had the one horrific pick,

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<v Speaker 1>he had another decision that could have resulted in a pick.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna freak out about that. I am gonna tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that they have Cowboys, Raiders, Commander Saints as their next

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<v Speaker 1>four and if they don't come out of that at

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<v Speaker 1>least two and two and probably need to be three

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<v Speaker 1>and one, they're in real trouble. They're like, and they

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<v Speaker 1>might already be in real trouble. I think it's I

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<v Speaker 1>picked them to make the playoffs. I don't think they're

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<v Speaker 1>dead on that front, but they're in quite the hole.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to Listen, when I picked and make the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought through two games they'd be one and one,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's you know, they're only one game off that pace.

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<v Speaker 1>But how they've looked and this is where blowing that

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings game keeps you up at night.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, next yees over there in Dallas, there were

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<v Speaker 2>five lead changes in forty one points scored in the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth quarter alone. Aubrey sent it to overtime. I won

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<v Speaker 2>a sixty four yard and then at the game winner

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<v Speaker 2>on the fifth possession of overtime. You left this game

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<v Speaker 2>angry with Dallas, thoughts why was that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, listen, for Brandon Aubrey is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most valuable players in the league. The fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys were it was going to be a sixty seven

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<v Speaker 1>yard field goal, they had time to try to push

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<v Speaker 1>the ball downfield and they're like, no, we'll just hand

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<v Speaker 1>it off because we're now well within his range is

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<v Speaker 1>so bananas. And you know, Dak looked great. The reason

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<v Speaker 1>I left the game angry with Dallas is because what

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<v Speaker 1>we have seen from the Cowboys through two weeks tells

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<v Speaker 1>me I was too low on them before the Mica trade,

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<v Speaker 1>and had they kept Micah parsons that team could be

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting, and Jerry's whole narrative that the media ran

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<v Speaker 1>with that we're you know, Mike is actually so bad

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<v Speaker 1>against the run that this trade helps us long term

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<v Speaker 1>and short term. We've now seen the defense in two

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<v Speaker 1>games without him and they can't do anything. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>best game of Russell Wilson's whole life until he threw

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<v Speaker 1>the pick at the end. Like the we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about that being the final start of Russell's career, it

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<v Speaker 1>ends up being maybe the best start of his career

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<v Speaker 1>because that Cowboys defense is that bad without Micah. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to the Niners.

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<v Speaker 2>So last week you saw launched that you were rooting

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<v Speaker 2>for Mac Jones and he passed for two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>seventy nine yards and three touchdowns. How is this game

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<v Speaker 2>about you? And Jimmy g.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, listen and for anyone, for the folks if they're

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<v Speaker 1>watching this pod at the first thing's first office is

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<v Speaker 1>turn it way up or have Wilds come down to

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<v Speaker 1>the conference room so we can hear this. Because it

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<v Speaker 1>is so galling to me that my colleagues, really wilds

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<v Speaker 1>can't just say out loud on the show all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick was right all along about the Niners quarterback position

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<v Speaker 1>being needing to be judged differently than everyone else's because

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<v Speaker 1>of the Shanahan system. We argued for three years about

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Garoppolo, with my take being he's actually not good.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he's been the guy. He's went to a super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>been in a Convergence championship game, and my take was,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not good. That's the Shanahan system and the weapons,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of quarterbacks could have that level of success.

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<v Speaker 1>They then drop in the final pick of the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes to a conference championship game, in a super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>and we now then argue for two years that actually

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<v Speaker 1>that guy's really special too, that guy's really good. And

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<v Speaker 1>we while we see Jimmy g leave there and immediately

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<v Speaker 1>become a backup, we then see that last pick of

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<v Speaker 1>the draft get hurt. They drop in Mac Jones, who's

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<v Speaker 1>been horrible for three years. He looks really good, and

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<v Speaker 1>the answer is, well, maybe Max a new player. Jesus, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I can be obnoxious. I know I can

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<v Speaker 1>be annoying at times. Sometimes though you just gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>like damn it, Nick was right. Turns out Shanahan. Certainly

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<v Speaker 1>Shanahan plus McCaffrey can inflate a quarterback stats in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that EPA per play can't judge. And the whole

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't pay brock Purty fifty five million dollars a year,

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<v Speaker 1>well when you can get that production from a guy

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<v Speaker 1>making five million. That's why. So I was always and

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<v Speaker 1>have always been right about this, and folks just keep

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<v Speaker 1>doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's paying a quarterback less money and keep the weapons.

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<v Speaker 1>That's perplexing to me. I don't know why they they

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they need to spend money for just average

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<v Speaker 1>talent at the position that you're paying them like they're

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<v Speaker 1>an elite talent because of what you do to make

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why they do it, but at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to text my ride that I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be out, that I'm a little late be out in

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<v Speaker 1>five apologies. All right. I want to hit every game.

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<v Speaker 1>So Falcons beat the Vikings. The story of that game

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<v Speaker 1>is JJ McCarthy got hurt. The real story of that

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<v Speaker 1>game is JJ McCarthy looked totally out of sorts. And

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<v Speaker 1>we are now at seven of eight quarters. He's looked awful,

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<v Speaker 1>unbelievable fourth quarter Game one, but quarters one through three,

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<v Speaker 1>quarters one through four of week two, he looked way

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<v Speaker 1>over his skis. That's a concern. So that's a real

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<v Speaker 1>worry and now it's a Carson winsteime in Minnesota. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>love that Ravens beat the Browns forty one to seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you ever nervous, Demanse?

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<v Speaker 2>It started off pretty slow, but I wouldn't say that

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<v Speaker 2>I was ever nervous. Joe Flakall just gave it to

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<v Speaker 2>us at one point, but yeah to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it was. It was a weird game

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<v Speaker 1>because the Ravens didn't have a ton of yards. Derrick

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<v Speaker 1>Henry did nothing and the Browns moved the ball. But

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<v Speaker 1>the Browns just Browns did it repeatedly, got a pump

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<v Speaker 1>blocked Flacco mistake like you know, just bad, bad errors

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<v Speaker 1>and the Ravens. You know, last year the Ravens lost

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<v Speaker 1>to the Raiders in Week two, started a two. So

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<v Speaker 1>this for them to put it on him like that,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was great. Bills beat the Jets. My only

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<v Speaker 1>concern there is Josh Allen looked like broke his nose

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<v Speaker 1>like the beat. Yeah, I thought it was worse than

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<v Speaker 1>just nosebleed, like. I wondered what happened to him there?

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<v Speaker 1>But the Bills looked awesome. Josh didn't have to do

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<v Speaker 1>much the Jets defense all of a sudden is a

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<v Speaker 1>huge concern. You'll let the at the Steelers score thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four and the Bills score thirty. Speaking of the Steelers,

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<v Speaker 1>Seahawks defeat the Steelers thirty one seventeen. What everyone's focused

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<v Speaker 1>on in that game is the Steelers kick returner for

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<v Speaker 1>getting the rule and the Seahawks getting a free touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. You're shaking your head, what do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Fincil Aaron Rodgers just completely blaming the guy after the game?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the kid, Calvin Austin, Calvin Austin, who's your age?

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<v Speaker 2>A great kid freaking through the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean Rogers was really bad in

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<v Speaker 1>this game, and he doesn't he doesn't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>accept that he is no longer good, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Week one mirage probably made it harder for him

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<v Speaker 1>to accept it. But the Steelers defense now on Pumpkin Watch,

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<v Speaker 1>just like the Jets defense is and the Steelers offense.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Rogers is gonna save the day. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Let me look real quick. Who did the

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<v Speaker 1>Steelers have next? The Steelers? Oh wow, Steelers at Patriots.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a huge game for both sides. There So Steelers

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<v Speaker 1>at Patriots, that's an interesting one. They didn't get the Vikings,

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<v Speaker 1>who should be playing a backup, and the Browns, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the schedule really get hard. So the Steelers need

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<v Speaker 1>to go at least two to one in the next

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<v Speaker 1>three I don't know if I'm optimistic about that. Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>beat the Dolphins thirty three to twenty seven to one

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<v Speaker 1>of the more exciting games of the weekend. Uh Drake

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<v Speaker 1>May was awesome, Tua was not. Mike McDaniel seems ready

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<v Speaker 1>to be fired, and Demon's ay, Mike McDaniel could get

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<v Speaker 1>fired this week. Yes, they play Thursday in Buffalo. That

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<v Speaker 1>could be a blood bath. And if that happens, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. You know, tuas two in Tyreek are still

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<v Speaker 1>not on the same page. It's just I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how in Miami, what.

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<v Speaker 2>You have seen from Miami, I don't know how that

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<v Speaker 2>game is anything but a blowout. Like I don't Miami.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean divisional game, first day saving but still

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like Buffalo's gonna molly wop them. Call to

1:18:47.280 --> 1:18:49.559
<v Speaker 1>be the Broncos twenty nine to twenty eight thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>the rarely called leverage penalty after a sixty yard missed

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<v Speaker 1>field goal. Listen, the Broncos deserve to be one and one.

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<v Speaker 1>They had no business winning Week one. They did. They

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<v Speaker 1>should have won Week two they didn't. Also, Bo Nicks

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<v Speaker 1>was terrible Week one and they won, so nobody cared.

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<v Speaker 1>He was awesome in week two. He threw one bad pick,

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<v Speaker 1>but he am I right about that. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>threw the pick in the game, but he was unbelievable

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<v Speaker 1>in the first half. But they lost anyway. Again, I

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<v Speaker 1>picked the Broncos demons to miss the playoffs, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they were gonna start awesome. I picked them

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<v Speaker 1>missed the playoffs anticipating a two to zero start. They're

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<v Speaker 1>now one in one and yet to look good. And

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<v Speaker 1>they still have that brutal end of season stretch of Chiefs, Commanders, Raiders, Packers, Jags, Chiefs, Chargers,

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<v Speaker 1>and they next week they're at the Chargers winner potentially

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<v Speaker 1>in first plow or will be in first place in

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<v Speaker 1>the division. And Jacob in the Chat wants to admit

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Jones the truth. I'm getting a lot of Saints

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<v Speaker 1>last year. Derek Carr vibes from this cult. Daniel Jones

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<v Speaker 1>two and oh numbers amazing, and Saints last year started

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<v Speaker 1>two and oh Car looked unbelievable. Then it all fell

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<v Speaker 1>apart and Cardinals defeated the Panthers and one of the

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<v Speaker 1>worst NFL games ever played. All right, great job, Demons,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you. Great job to Blue Duck Volume, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>to hard Rock, thank you to Boost, thank you to

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<v Speaker 1>seat Geek, thank you to my driver who's been waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for an hour. I got a run. I'll see you

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<v Speaker 1>guys on Colin in a little more than an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday Regular Show, Friday Gambling Show, all coming up this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to you guys. Then we'll try