1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Welcome in What'll Driving the Great Episode three sixty five. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: This episode, as always brought to you by our friends 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: at boost Mobile. Demand's a rough weekend for me, no 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: getting around it. And it started off so you know, 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: rough weekends not even the right way to put it. 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: It was just a rough Sunday. Because Friday was glorious 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: doing the show live from Kansas City. It was an 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: all timer, and then Saturday was wildly profitable, hopefully not 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: just for me but for our listeners because the great 10 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: Nick Shulman, the What's Right Boxing expert analyst correspondent, did 11 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: an hour with us last week and gave us every 12 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: single reason to bet Terrence Bud Crawford in an upset, 13 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: and Terrence Bud Crawford dominated that five and we were 14 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: rolling and even early Saturday after. It really is just 15 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: the Chiefs game. 16 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: Like what am I talking about? 17 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: Like everything is just a Chiefs game. I got a 18 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: little I feel unlucky with my five picks where I 19 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: ended up going two and three this weekend. One of 20 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: the losses was the Jags plus three and a half. 21 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: They lost by four in a game they gave away 22 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: just card in total Jagsy and fashion gave away, and 23 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: another loss was Arizona laying six and a half. They're 24 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: up twenty seven to eight. Late in the game, Like 25 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: late late in the game, Kyler throws a pick, they 26 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: allow a touchdown, they allow the what might be the 27 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: only successful onside kick of the year, and all of 28 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: a sudden, not only do they not cover, they almost 29 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: lost the game out right. But as the kids say, 30 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: we move, we're gonna be okay. We'll get to all 31 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: of that. You, on the other hand, just can't lose 32 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: a teaser. Hitting price, You're hitting hitting player props left 33 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: and right. You're just you're on fire over on the 34 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: West Coast. 35 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: I'm trying. I'm trying. Yeah, teasers look good any best 36 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: this weekend. But but yeah. 37 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: That's okay. The teaser looked good. You gave out a 38 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: winning teaser. It's all you can hope for. I will say, 39 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: this team, what's right in the million dollars Splash Sports Survivor. 40 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: We had the Cardinals. We have now used the Jags 41 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals. We're two and zero. We're feeling good now. 42 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: I will say almost everyone's feeling good about Survivor at 43 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: this point because nobody's lost anything. Oh, one other note 44 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: for the audience. I guess this is also for the 45 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: Blue Duck folks, but it won't actually impact any of 46 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: our schedules or anything. We are now we're going to 47 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: go back to doing what we did at the beginning 48 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: of the pod, where the pick show is released as 49 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: a separate episode on Friday, So we'll be live Thursday. 50 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: We will then also after we're live Thursday, do our 51 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: pick show, you know what I mean, and then it 52 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: will come out as its own standalone episode on Fridays. 53 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: I know there was some confusion for folks who because 54 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: we did that this week and I didn't tell you 55 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: guys who listened to Thursday's episode and said where were 56 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: the picks? They were released later as their own thing. 57 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: So just so everybody knows. And by the way, to 58 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: make sure you get everything we do like great subscribe 59 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: review YouTube is growing great. The iTunes and Spotify numbers 60 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: are doing really well. We appreciate it. The only way 61 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: you guys can help us more than just listening to 62 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: the show is throwing us up description or even on 63 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: top of that review, So we would love that. Now 64 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: let's get right into it, straight to the voicemail brought 65 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: to you by our friends at boost Mobile. Bad couple 66 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: first few weeks for the skinny football players out there. 67 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy's got his shoulder popped out, DeVante Smith looked 68 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: like he might have gotten hurt in the Chiefs game, 69 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: and Jayden Daniels dealing with a knee sprain. That is 70 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: certainly something to monitor. It is, you know, fortunately for him, 71 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: unfortunately for the rest of the league, not even close 72 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: to the most dire of the quarterback injuries. This weekend, 73 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: we'll get to that. Crawford defeats Canelo and gives himself 74 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: a real argument that if you want to call him 75 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: the best pound for pound fighter of your lifetime, you 76 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: can make that case. Now he's forty two to zero. 77 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: He basically jumped three weight classes to beat Canelo, and 78 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: it was an all timer. And I didn't think the 79 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: fight was as close as the judges did. And then 80 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: the if I wasn't having a tough enough week, and 81 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: I gotta be careful. You know, I'm not trying to 82 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: take shots at the NFL, but NFL social media tweeting 83 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: out never a doubt on what was the backbreaking touchdown 84 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: for the Eagles over the Chiefs. Felt pointed and felt personal. 85 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be honest with you. Now, you can 86 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: say that is egotistical. I don't think it is. 87 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: I don't. 88 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: I think that was very niche. 89 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: That's niche right there. 90 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: Well, whatever it is, I didn't love it. I gotta 91 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: tell you. I didn't love it. And it felt like 92 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: a low blow. Now maybe I'm just a little on 93 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: tilt because of what happened in Chiefs Eagles. So Deman say, 94 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: let's not delay anymore, let's get right into it. Go ahead. 95 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, So the Super Bowl rematch was rough for Chiefs 96 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: fans and you. So there's a few things going on. 97 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 2: The Toush push is still alive, and well, my Holmes 98 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 2: is struggling to throw the ball deep, it would seem, 99 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: and him and Kelsey have had a few miscues that 100 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: have potentially cost them games. Where would you like to start? 101 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: Okay, So we're going to start with the chief side 102 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: of things, and then we'll get into the Eagles, and 103 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: then we will do a Toush push discussion. Okay, So 104 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: I cannot and and producers tell me if the mic 105 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: sounds a little better. Now, I am not going to 106 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: sit here and act like everything's fine with the Chiefs 107 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: right now, it is. There are some I want to 108 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: focus on the concerning things that have occurred in both games. Okay, 109 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: So for instance, since week one, the secondary, which has 110 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: been a strength of this team, looked hugely problematic against 111 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: Herbert and the Chargers. Week two, I thought the secondary 112 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: looked really good. Right, So like that's the one good game, 113 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: one bad game. I'm not focusing on that. Here is 114 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: what through two weeks looks problematic, and I don't know 115 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: where the solve for it is. The Chiefs running game 116 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: is as inept right now as it's ever been since 117 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: Patrick's been there. Pachecko sadly just does not look like 118 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: the same player he was before he broke his leg. 119 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: And what's odd about it is his biggest problem through 120 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: two weeks doesn't seem to be explosion. It seems to 121 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: be vision and hitting the right hole. You wouldn't think 122 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: that is related to a lower body injury, but he 123 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: just hasn't been effective. Kareem Hunt is who he is. 124 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: He if you need one yard more way, more often 125 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: than not, he will get it for you. But he 126 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: has no chance of getting you ten. And they brought 127 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: in Elijah Mitchell. Nothing's happened there. They drafted Brishard Smith 128 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: in the I think seventh round. He's seventh round rookie. 129 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: Like they just right now don't have the horses in 130 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: the running back room, and that is a spot that 131 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: I would not at all hate for them to be 132 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: active on in the trade market. I think we have. 133 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: There has been a lot of discussion of should the 134 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: Chiefs trade for Tyreek Kill? The wide receivers are coming back, Okay, 135 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: I if I were doing a trade with Miami, I 136 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: might be equally, if not more, interested in Devin h 137 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: Cham Like I think that there are you running backs 138 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: will be and should be available, and that might be 139 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: a spot that they have to bite the bullet and 140 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: spend some draft capital via trade on. So that's one piece, 141 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: and here's another one. As good as Josh Simmons has 142 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: been at the left tackle spot, Patrick still doesn't feel 143 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: totally comfortable in his protection. Now, some of that's been 144 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: the left guard spot's been really problematic, but Creed's great, 145 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: Trey's great, Simmons is really good, Joan Taylor when he's 146 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: not committing penalties is fine, and Patrick just seems like 147 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: he doesn't trust it. Right now, and I am as 148 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: confident in Patrick Mahomes as any player that's ever played 149 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: in the league that he will figure stuff out. And 150 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: there have been times this season where it has felt 151 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: like he's out there, I don't want to say by himself, 152 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: but nobody can get opening. They can't run the ball, 153 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: which has forced him to and this is the part 154 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: of the season that I have liked the absolute least. 155 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: It has forced him to activate playoff running Mahomes in 156 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: weeks one and two, and I despise that because obviously 157 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: it puts him in jeopardy, which is the biggest concern. 158 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: But the other thing is one of the reasons he 159 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: has had the postseason success that he's had. One of 160 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: the reasons he has been so much more dynamic and 161 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: effective statistically and from a winning perspective on a per 162 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: game basis than any other quarterback in the history of 163 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: the league come the postseason is because every single postseason 164 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: he adds a huge weapon to his game that is 165 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: not there in the regular season, which is the quarterback 166 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: runs the scrambles. And if he's using that during the 167 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: regular season, it has just multiple concerns. One is he 168 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: can get banged up Another is you're not getting that 169 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: auto postseason boost. Like Josh Allen and Lamar are unbelievable 170 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: runners at the quarterback position. They do it starting in 171 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: week one and never stop. So it doesn't add an 172 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: element to their game come the playoffs. It has for 173 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: Patrick and the last listen issue on offense is the 174 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: greatest tight end in the history of the league has 175 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: had a really rough two weeks. There's no way around it. 176 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: Third play of the season. I thought it was Xavier's mistake. 177 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: He says it was his mistake that he ran the 178 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: wrong depth of his route and Xavier's hurt. Later in 179 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: that game, he and Patrick aren't on quite the same page. 180 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: When they're down nine about to score, they don't connect 181 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: on what would have been a touchdown. And then obviously 182 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: the Eagles game, they're about to take the lead and 183 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: he bobbles a pass and it turns into a game 184 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: changing interception. That's all. Highly it's been highly damaging. I 185 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: don't know if it's yet highly concerning, but it's highly damaging. Okay, 186 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: So there is that piece of it on the defensive 187 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: side of the ball. The only complaint I have after 188 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: week two is they cannot seem to get pressure without 189 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: sending a blitz, like if they rush for they just 190 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: cannot get home. So I don't know if that means 191 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: the rookies Ashton Julot or Omar Norman lot need to 192 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: be more effective. Certainly Charles Amena who needs to be 193 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: more effective. Mike Dana got hurt in this game. That 194 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: didn't help. George Karloft has just got paid by this team, 195 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: he needs to be more effective. Like Chris Jones is 196 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: a man on an island at times. And so those 197 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: are real problems, okay, And right now the Chiefs don't 198 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: deserve to be anything close to Super Bowl favorites. I'm 199 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: not gonna sit here and act like, ah, they got unlucky, 200 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: they got this. No. If anything, it is surprising that 201 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: they have had a chance to win both of these 202 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: games when they haven't played well. They've missed kicks in 203 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: both games. They haven't forced a turnover. So that is 204 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: the true and fair so analysis of where the Chiefs 205 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: are through two weeks. Anything past that is nonsense. Anyone 206 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: trying to pedal Wow, should they be worried about making 207 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: the playoffs? I think has lost their mind. Now is 208 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: the division for the first time in Jeopardy. Yeah, when 209 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: you're zero to two and a team that beat you 210 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: is two and zero with a divisional win, it's understandable 211 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: that the Chiefs are no longer the favorites in the 212 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: division Demons, And where where does hard Rock Bet have 213 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: them at right now? 214 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: They've got them at plus two forty to win the division? 215 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: Should you hammer that? 216 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, as it's not surprising to you. Probably 217 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: I have a lot of exposure already on the Chiefs, 218 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: you know, futures and season and win total. But I 219 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: think plus two point forty is good value right now 220 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: when I do right now, if I had to pick it, 221 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: I would still pick the Chiefs to win the division. 222 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: And part of that is some concerning stuff. I saw 223 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: no no from the Chargers the Houston doesn't apply here 224 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: from the Chargers last night late in that game. And 225 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: we'll get into that when we talk about the Chargers. 226 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: I thought the Chargers almost went out of their way 227 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: to try to keep the Raiders in that game. And 228 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: it's what's true for Patrick is true for all these quarterbacks. 229 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: Any quarterback that's running a ton early in the year, 230 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: I get worried about and justin Herbert's running a lot, 231 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: and you know that I think that, And he took 232 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: a wicked shot yesterday, and then they also had him 233 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: late in the game when the game was decided to 234 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: another quarterback run that I totally didn't understand. And so 235 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: I still believe the Chiefs are the best team in 236 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: the AFC West. You can't right now say they're better 237 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: than Buffalo or Baltimore. You can say, however, right now, 238 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: in a span of two quick weeks, after for the 239 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: last few years the AFC clearly being the better of 240 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: the two conferences, the NFC right now seems far superior 241 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: and far deeper. Like demon's a whoa in the AFC 242 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: East Buffalo, Miami, New England, the Jets. There's one team 243 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: you believe in the AFC North, Baltimore, since Pittsburgh, Cleveland. 244 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: There's one team you believe in the AFC South. Right now, 245 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: there might be zero teams you believe in unless you 246 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: or the generic you to the audience really does believe 247 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: what the culture doing is sustainable. I don't know that 248 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: I believe it. The AFC West, on the other hand, 249 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: might have a bunch of you know, the Chargers, the Broncos, 250 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: the Chiefs the Raiders still like it is. It's remarkable 251 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: to me how open the middle part of the conferences, 252 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: And so I think it's fair to say the Chiefs 253 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: have basically not punted but giving up the opportunity to 254 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: be the one seed. You know, I think that's fair. 255 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: I think there's you know, there are real things they 256 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: need to clean up. I also feel this way, they 257 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: are potentially twelve days away from everyone saying how silly 258 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: we should feel for writing off the Chiefs because you 259 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: beat the Giants this weekend. You didn't have a game 260 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: against Baltimore that if you win, you're right back to 261 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: being the Chiefs and all this stuff about oh, the 262 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: mystique is gone or this or that that's gone like 263 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: that and that conversation is gone, and so big but 264 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: big next few weeks and big stretch of time before 265 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: Rashi comes back. Xavier might be back this weekend. He'll 266 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: definitely be back for the Raven game. And listen, they 267 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: need to have a receiver that can beat man to 268 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: man coverage. And the idea that like Mahomes is being 269 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: exposed without a dynamic receiver is belied by the fact 270 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: that he won League MVP with a receiving corps led 271 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: by juju An MBS and the next year won Super 272 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: Bowl MVP with an even worse receiving corps. And last 273 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: year they went fifteen to two and made the Super 274 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: Bowl with Rashim missing basically the whole year. So I 275 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: think that's too reactionary. But somebody's got to get open 276 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: at some point, all right, before we get to the 277 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: touch push, do you have another one more follow up? 278 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: You want to ask me? Uh? 279 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 2: Yeah? With how Philly fans are treating you, do you 280 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: think treating you in person? Are you thinking about taking him? 281 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 2: And a listens so. 282 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: I know we're joking. I'm gonna be serious about this 283 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: just for a second. The grown adult Eagle fans that 284 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: live in the New York area, and I have more 285 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: sympathy for folks. When I was in Kansas City and 286 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: ran into Eagle fans, I'd love to tell you the 287 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: vast majority were great. They were not. The vast majority 288 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 1: were obnoxious assholes. A few were great. But I had 289 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: a group of four grown men in golf outfits at 290 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: eight in the morning Friday morning in front of the 291 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: hotel we were both staying at uh Yell like scream 292 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: at me so like that, But but I actually give 293 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: those guys not a pass. You're you flew to town 294 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: for a game. You're alrighty, like you're in game mode. Whatever. 295 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: It is like that, that is what it is. The 296 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: Eagle fans that see me on the street in New 297 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: York and a cost me for lack of a better term, 298 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: or just out of their mind, like what like on 299 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: it like like you're just out of your mind? What 300 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: are you doing? 301 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 2: Say it again, what are you doing with your time 302 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: right now? 303 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: Well, it's just you're just you're just like what are 304 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: you doing? You're you're not on the team. And I 305 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: like the like the this is it is forever. I've 306 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: said that. Whenever Demanse says to me like, oh, you're 307 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: getting killed online or people are mad at you or whatever, 308 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: what I've said is no, they're not. Like maybe they are, 309 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter because I don't see it. In 310 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: order to tell me your feelings, you gotta see me 311 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: in person. And ninety nine percent of the people who 312 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: see me in person, no matter what they've said online, 313 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: they're incredibly gracious. It is really surprising the level of 314 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: like angst and vitriol a team that is the defending champions, 315 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: their fans have and I find it. 316 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: Honestly not worst fan base, but worst fan base to you, Like, 317 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: I feel like Buffalo was up there at one point. 318 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: But Buffalo fans were Here's the thing. 319 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 2: I think I was, you were really I can't be. 320 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: Buffalo way more than Philly, and Buffalo fans were always awesome, 321 00:22:55,280 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: always it is. And Buffalo fans, by the way, never won. 322 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: They never like. 323 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: The the combination is already like a type of way. 324 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 2: I feel like like they're already yeah. 325 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: It's it's odd. I'm not I'm not I'm not making 326 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: too big of a deal over it. But I'm not 327 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: gonna act like it's not noticeable that these like thirty 328 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: eight year old it pros on their lunch break that 329 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: see me walking in the city, like, ain't nick right? 330 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: Fuck you? Like ay Man, like we're just like that. 331 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: It's a little weird, like it's just it's just and 332 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: I and I the I just have a auto response 333 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: of congrats on the super Bowl, like I don't know 334 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: what interaction you think we're gonna have here, but it is. 335 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is what the you got? They won? 336 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're mad about. I think that 337 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: there is an element of their identity as sports fans 338 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: is anger and they don't know how to deal with 339 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: the fact that they won. And so it is I'm 340 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: not gonna like, I'm not gonna pretend it's not weird. 341 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: And people the producers asking if it happened with Niner 342 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: fans or Buck fans, I'm telling you, and I am 343 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: not exaggerating, It's never happened with any other fan base 344 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: across any other sport. To me, like, there are some 345 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: true die hard Kobe fans that really disliked me, particularly 346 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: right after Kobe's trying passing, because in that time, any 347 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: anybody that had you know, tape if you will, of 348 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: what they thought was being unfair to Kobe, those got 349 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: shared a lot, you know, in the moment after it's passing. 350 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: None of those folks. If I were to make a 351 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: list of the twenty worst in person interactions I've had 352 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: with fans since I've been doing this, eighteen of them 353 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: would be Eagle fans. Since they won the Super Bowl. 354 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: It's really weird and so like, uh yeah, and so 355 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: it just part of that might be geographically, Yeah, you know, 356 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: what I mean. There's a lot of things, but it 357 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: is it is odd, which is why this thing we're 358 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: doing next, which is shining a light on the total 359 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: bullshit that is the cheating of the tush push, delights 360 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: me even more. We'll get to that in a second, 361 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: but first, we're so excited to be partnered with as 362 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: our presenting sponsor, hard Rock Bet. 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All right, demons, let's get to the touch 388 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: push stuff. 389 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 2: So you went on a rant yesterday on TV. Some 390 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 2: people would say you went on a line about the 391 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: tush push and now unfair it is. Uh. You've had 392 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: twenty four hours to reconsider. Are you going to walk 393 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: it back? Or are you still sour on it? 394 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 1: Listen, and you have to be my eyewitness on this, 395 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: demanse Okay, okay, well before the Eagles and Chiefs ever 396 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: played in any Super Bowls, before the Chiefs beat them 397 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, before the Eagles were a real 398 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: top flight contender. When we were doing the show from 399 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: Trentage your mom's store in Harlem together, I hated this play. 400 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: Can you confirm that that is true? 401 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 2: I don't think there's never been a point that the 402 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: tush push existed and you didn't not like it? 403 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: Right, And it started in October of twenty twenty one. 404 00:28:54,000 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: And my argument had always been multi layer. But the 405 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: basis of it is it's against the spirit of professional 406 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: football because it's a rugby play. It's bad TV and 407 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: it's a rugby play. And Simmons made this point and 408 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: I agree with him where it is in the same 409 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: family as if a team started having guys go piggyback 410 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: on each other's backs to blockfield goals at the line 411 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, like, oh, is there a specific rule against that? 412 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it doesn't feel like what we 413 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: are supposed to be doing here. There was the old 414 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: Reddit post of what if the Warriors signed for like 415 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: bodybuilders and had those four guys lock arms and Steph 416 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: Curry stand in the middle of them and then shoot 417 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: threes where nobody can get through. Like, is there technically 418 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: a rule against it? I don't know, but it feels 419 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: against the spirit of the sport we're playing. So that's 420 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: why I've always hated it. It's not because and by 421 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: the way, the Eagles have beaten the Chiefs in one 422 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,239 Speaker 1: game that really matters to me, the Super Bowl, and 423 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: they didn't need the toast push in that Super Bowl. 424 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: They crushed us. They needed it in the first Super Bowl, 425 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: but the Chiefs won. I don't give a shit about 426 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: the regular season games, so you're just gonna have to 427 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,479 Speaker 1: take my word for it, Okay that that has always 428 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: been my long standing opinion. A. I have had three 429 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: kind of additional prongs to the opinion, which is, first 430 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: of all, if everyone got good at it, it would 431 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: really hurt the NFL if third and short or fourth 432 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: and short were no longer exciting or intriguing plays, that 433 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: hurts the watchability and intrigue of the league. The second 434 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: prong was, if the Eagles got better at it, it 435 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: would snap ruin the sport. By and by better at it, 436 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: I mean is right now they can basically get two 437 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: yards whenever they want. All that has to do is 438 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: changed to four yards and for Philly to be like, okay, 439 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: first play of the game, first and ten from the 440 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: thirty tush pushing the next twelve plays down the field, 441 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: and you'd have to change the rule mid season. But 442 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:52,239 Speaker 1: the third prong has also been this cause one of 443 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: the Eagles defenses is, well, it must not be that 444 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: easy because they're the only ones who can do it 445 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:06,479 Speaker 1: that well, because they're the only ones that on eighty 446 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: percent of them half their team is offsides and the 447 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: guards are firing early, and thankfully Tom Brady and Dean 448 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: Blandino shined a spotlight on that it is hard enough 449 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: to stop as is, but when every other snap of 450 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: the game, just think about how you're watching football. Every 451 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: other snap you can see the ball from the above 452 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: shot because it's in front of the center and then 453 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: the offensive line is in a slight arc where the 454 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: center is the furthest out, but his head's behind the ball, 455 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: the guards are a little bit behind him, and the 456 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: tackles are a little bit behind them, except for tackles 457 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: like Lane Johnson for the Joan Taylor for the Chiefs 458 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: who are quite a bit, you know, behind to get 459 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: a little early jump the tush push. You can't see 460 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: the ball because the center is that the ball is 461 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: behind where the sinner is, like where the sinner's head is. 462 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: That's illegal, And you don't know when the ball's been 463 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: snapped because you can't see it, which for the refs 464 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: makes it impossible to tell. Wait, did the guards go 465 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: early to get an advantage just by a quarter of 466 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: a second? And you had to say, what's a quarter 467 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: of a second? We see every day in the NFL 468 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: an offensive linemen just barely shift back in his stance. 469 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: It's a flag that is happening on steroids. Eighty percent 470 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: of Eagles tush pushes. Go back and watch the Vikings 471 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: try it on Sunday Night football and what you'll see 472 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: is there lined up like a regular play and those 473 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: can be stomped. 474 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: So you. 475 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: If the commissioner of the league doesn't want it, twenty 476 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: two of the thirty one other teams don't want it, 477 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: at the very least, can it be officiated correctly? At 478 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: the very least can because here's the thing, demonse a 479 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: false start penalty on push push plays is devastating because 480 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: they're going for fourth downs they wouldn't otherwise go for 481 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's not like a false 482 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: start on first and ten is not that big of 483 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: a deal. A false start on fourth and one, when 484 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: you're either at the goal line or on your own 485 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: thirty five, as the Eagles are wont to do any 486 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:58,959 Speaker 1: of those spots, totally changes the math entirely. And here 487 00:34:59,080 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 1: is why. 488 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 2: So they're cheating. 489 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not gonna call him cheating because they're doing 490 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: what the refs will let him get away with. I'm 491 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: asking here is my belief. A little over two years ago, 492 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: in Juwan Taylor's first game as a chief, I think 493 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: it was his first game. I know it was first 494 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: game of the season regardless, against the Detroit Lions, Chris 495 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: Collinsworth made a point to harp On on the broadcast. 496 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: He is jumping early, and it's something he had always 497 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: done in Jacksonville before he came to Kansas City. It 498 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: had never really been a problem, but Collinsworth pointed it 499 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 1: out on the broadcast, and all of a sudden, every 500 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: ref was attuned to it, and he snapped me came 501 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: the most penalized player in the league. What I wonder 502 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: is will Tom Brady having focused on that they are 503 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: jumping early on the tush push, and then Dean Blandino 504 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: coming on the same broadcast and saying, yeah, guys, I'm 505 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: done with the toush push. It's too hard to officiate. 506 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: Will that make the officiating crews across the country more aware, Oh, 507 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: this is something we have to watch because if Philly 508 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: starts just even occasionally getting false starts on it, it 509 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: massively recaps its effectiveness. And my prediction is that, oh, 510 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: I didn't see. I didn't know that. I missed that 511 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: last night where the refs made the Chargers uh O 512 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: line adjust how they were gonna tush push because of 513 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: how they were lined up. I'll watch that. Thanks guys 514 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: for going that in the in the doc. But my 515 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: guess is they're now aware that what they're doing is 516 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: not allowed, and it certainly is going to be banned 517 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: after this year. I think there is no doubt about it. 518 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: But I just wonder if it's going to lose some 519 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: effectiveness during the year. Luckily, Philly will be fine without 520 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: it because Jalen Hurts is such a prolific downfield passer 521 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:47,240 Speaker 1: this season. 522 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that that graphic was pretty crazy. 523 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: I mean, and that's not that different from week one 524 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: where now he hit the one deep ball to Johan Dotson. 525 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: In week one, he hit the one deep ball to 526 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: DeVante Smith in week two. That's boring, Jailen listen. Jalen 527 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: Hurts is not a dynamic drop back passer. He is 528 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: better than what we've seen through two weeks, and to 529 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: not be giving him the opportunities to hit Aj Brown 530 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: down the field is odd and I think that there 531 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: is right now. What is keeping that afloat is not 532 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: a float but under wraps is that they've won okay, 533 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: because I think aj is not all too pleased about 534 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: not getting opportunities. And I say that because Aj Brown 535 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: told us himself, let me see if I can find it. 536 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: There is going to have a j Brown told us himself, 537 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: what'd you say, demanse? 538 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 2: So they said he was going to have the Kuran 539 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 2: memorized by the end of the season. 540 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 1: Oh so here Aj Brown on Instagram four days after 541 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl quote. I tried to feel how everyone 542 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: made it seem to be a champion and fortunately it 543 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: was short lived two days to be exact. Lol, I've 544 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 1: never been a champion at the highest level before, but 545 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: I thought my hard work would be justified by winning 546 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,280 Speaker 1: it all. It wasn't My thrill for this game comes 547 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: when I dominate. It's the hunt that does it for me. 548 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: It's when the dB drops his head and surrenders because 549 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: he can't f with me. That is AJ Brown's own work. 550 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: So I don't know how happy AJ Brown is with 551 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:11,919 Speaker 1: what is been the Eagles offense up to this point. 552 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's get Demond's a too. The Joe Burrow 553 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: injury in the Bengals. 554 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow was knocked out early with a turf toe injury. 555 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 2: So he's gonna get surgery and he's gonna miss at 556 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 2: least three months. And this is his third major injury. 557 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 2: Where did the Bengals go from here without Burrow? 558 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: All right, remember our rules, guys on NFL injury announcements. Okay, 559 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: if the initial reporting is he's fine, it means he 560 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: might miss a week. If the initial reporting is escaped 561 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: major injury, he's probably out a month. If the initial 562 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: reporting is the team is highly concerned, he's almost assuredly 563 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:11,240 Speaker 1: out a year. In the new age of NFL insider media, 564 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: for some reason there is this. I would imagine it's 565 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: a request by agents to always put the sunniest possible 566 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: time frame on injuries. So when the initial reporting is 567 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 1: at least three months for Joe Burrow, you should read 568 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: that to mean he has done for the season. Okay, 569 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: you like there, And here's why the reporting stuff on 570 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: it matters. So I saw some people yesterday like doing 571 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: the math. They're like, all right, three months, so October November, 572 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: So he could be back by mid December if the 573 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: Bengals already two to zero, if they can, you know, 574 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: just play five hundred ball, then he's back for the 575 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: stretch run, gets a few games under his belt before 576 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs. No chance, No, that's that's not realistic. Sadly, 577 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is almost assuredly done for the year, and 578 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: there is This was not a fluke. This was I 579 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: don't want to call it predictable, but all off season. 580 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: And you guys know this if you listen to this show, 581 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 1: and by the way, we appreciate everyone who does, and 582 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: please subscribe on iTunes and YouTube and Spotify and all that. 583 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: Leave us a review if you'd like, certainly give us 584 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: five stars. If you don't mind. The Bengals conversation was 585 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: simply a well, if the defense can just get a 586 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 1: little bit better, we know the offense is gonna be great. 587 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: And I said more than once one of the reasons 588 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,439 Speaker 1: I was not a Bengals believer was I thought their 589 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: offensive line, which already had been shaky, was worse this 590 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 1: year potentially than it was last year. And through two games, 591 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: really a game and a half, you saw Joe Burrow 592 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 1: getting the hell knocked out of him, and so part 593 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:35,879 Speaker 1: of that is a team failing. Right. Here's another thing, 594 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:42,919 Speaker 1: and this is something that it's just the reality. It's 595 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: demand say. You might think this is harsh. I don't 596 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: mean it to be, but I think if you watch 597 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: the Bengals, this is something Joe Burrow needed to improve 598 00:43:54,480 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: on and didn't. He is so he is so often 599 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:06,760 Speaker 1: hunting the big play downfield, even when there's guys diving 600 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: at his legs, like the pockets breaking down. He he 601 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: has such and it's one of the reasons he's so 602 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: great is because he's gonna stand in there and you know, 603 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 1: as opposed to honestly like the way Patrick played last year, 604 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: which is nope, get get rid of the ball, get 605 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,439 Speaker 1: rid of you know, he the the example I gave, 606 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,280 Speaker 1: and you're too young to really have watched this guy. 607 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 1: Burrow oddly plays within the pocket a lot like Big 608 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 1: Bended where it is, there's gonna be guys hanging all 609 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: over me. And I'm gonna but Big Ben for he 610 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: was named Big Ben for a reason. You know what 611 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he was huge, He was incredibly durable. That's 612 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: not so like, I'm not blaming Joe Burrow for being hurt. 613 00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is the style he hasn't a just 614 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: in his style of play, given how critical he is 615 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: to that team having any shot. And so now this 616 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:17,399 Speaker 1: is a player who and this is the worst, I mean, 617 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: the worst accolade imaginable. He has a real chance, demons, 618 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 1: to become the only guy in the history of the 619 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: NFL to win the Comeback Player of the Year three times. 620 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,879 Speaker 1: He's already won it twice. You don't want that man. 621 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: That's like, you know, he blew out his knee as 622 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: a rookie, came back and won it. He got his 623 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: elbow torn up a couple of years ago, came back 624 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 1: and won it. And now he's gonna have played a 625 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 1: game and a half this year, and. 626 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 2: So saving Grace said, it's like a toe thing though 627 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 2: at least it's you know, it's knee. Oh that's unfortunately 628 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 2: he's injured. 629 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: He doesn't You would not expect this at all to 630 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: have next year impacts. Yes, I agree, you know what 631 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you expect him to come back the exact 632 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: same player. Right. The flip side of that is he's 633 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 1: now had three catastrophic injuries to three totally unrelated parts 634 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: of his body, you know what I mean, Like the 635 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 1: is yeah, I mean you've had some similar yeah, just 636 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 1: everywhere stop there where right the where it's like, man, 637 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 1: I've got I've dealt with a shoulder, I've dealt with 638 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,399 Speaker 1: an ankle, I've dealt with this, Like for Joe, he's 639 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: dealt with an acl some weird elbow ligament thing and 640 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 1: now turf toe, which never happens to quarterbacks. And so 641 00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: I and this idea that producers, if you guys don't 642 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 1: mind check on hard rock what the Bengals are right now? Yes, no, 643 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs, because there is I guess a 644 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: level of well they are two to zero with two 645 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 1: divisional wins, like can they can they overcome this? And 646 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,879 Speaker 1: Jake Browning obviously when he played a couple of years ago, 647 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 1: played well enough and they went five hundred. I just 648 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 1: think their next month demonse of defenses. Three of these 649 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:42,319 Speaker 1: games on the road. They're at Minnesota at Denver, home 650 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 1: for Detroit at green Bay. Yeah, that feels like one 651 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,319 Speaker 1: in three at best, and a real possibility, and I 652 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: hate to say it, but a real possibility that Browning 653 00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: doesn't make it through that like it with that offensive 654 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 1: line the way it is. And they they signed Sean 655 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 1: Clifford to the practice squad today, which they have to like, 656 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm trying to see. Oh, they already 657 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 1: they on their practice squad. They already had Brett Rippen 658 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: and Mike White, Like, go. 659 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 2: And get Anthony Richardson from the Colts or something. 660 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting. Kirk Cousins, Kurkut there somewhere, Trey Lance interesting. 661 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, Like right now, Jake Browning 662 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: is a better option than all those guys, definitively, except 663 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 1: for maybe Kirk, and maybe Kirk as well. Browning's fine. 664 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 1: But so they're on hard rock. Bet they're to make 665 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: the playoffs. No minus two ten, Yes plus one sixty five. 666 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: That seems a little optimistic. That also, though, speaks to 667 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 1: the power being two and oh with two conference wins 668 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: and two and oh in the AFC. Right now, all right, 669 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 1: let's follow up here, pal. 670 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 2: Uh Yeah, how did you guy Trevor not pull this 671 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 2: out against Jake Browning? And the guy threw three picks? 672 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,399 Speaker 2: What what happened there? 673 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: That was such a horrifying loss for the Jags? I 674 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 1: mean Browning threw three picks, including one that just has 675 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 1: to end the game. So the when the Jags are 676 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,760 Speaker 1: up twenty seven to twenty four early in the fourth, 677 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: the Bengals go three and out. The Jags then have 678 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:50,240 Speaker 1: a nine play drive. They end with a punt. Jake 679 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: Browning then throws an interception that is returned to the 680 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 1: bet to the Bengals twenty I'm sorry twelve yard line. 681 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 1: The Jags have the ball, they're up three, they have 682 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,280 Speaker 1: first and ten from the twelve with five minutes left, 683 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 1: and they lose man they they I I'm not gonna 684 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:25,359 Speaker 1: kill Liam Cohen for going for that fourth down. You 685 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 1: guys have heard me say before. I oddly prefer sometimes 686 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 1: to be up three than up six. I hate the 687 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 1: up six, like up three. It feels like the other 688 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 1: team's a little more conservative. They will obviously kick a 689 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 1: field goal, so I didn't blame him saying a touchdown 690 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 1: wins us this game. If we don't pick it up, 691 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 1: you know we're giving it to you at the eight 692 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 1: and you're less likely to be so aggressive. And maybe 693 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,840 Speaker 1: they should have won. Sorry, my allergies are killing. Maybe 694 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 1: they should have won because I thought that Travis Hunter 695 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 1: pass interference was a bad call. But you cannot find 696 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,919 Speaker 1: a way to lose that game. And early in the game, 697 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 1: Trevor with a vintage Trevor mistake. It's seven, oh, Jacksonville. 698 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: The Bengals go three and out. The Jags move the 699 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 1: ball right down the field, and that on third and 700 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 1: goal from the eight, Trevor just throws a hope of 701 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,240 Speaker 1: a prayer that gets picked off. Now, his other pass 702 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 1: that got picked off was Brian Thomas Junior, who had 703 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,439 Speaker 1: a alligator arm situation the whole game. But in Brian 704 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 1: Thomas Junior's defense, Trevor's gotta stop throwing these hospital balls, 705 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:47,760 Speaker 1: man like. That was a great opportunity for the Jags 706 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 1: and to let to lose a game. When Joe Burrow 707 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 1: gets hurt and Jake Browning throws three picks and by 708 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: the way, Trevor throws for two seventy and three touchdowns. 709 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 1: You run for a buck forty. It's just such a 710 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: Jags loss. Just such a Jags loss. Shout out page, Beckers, 711 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,720 Speaker 1: she won Rookie of the Year. Breaking news. 712 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,359 Speaker 2: Shout out page. Who do you think was more wrong? Hey, 713 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 2: coach Liam calling for telling his quarterback where to throw 714 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 2: the ball, or Trevor were waving his coach. 715 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 1: Off, Liam? You can't, you can't you listen, You just 716 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 1: you can do that privately on the sideline. Yeah, barking 717 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,960 Speaker 1: at your quarterback when he is trying like he's still 718 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 1: like has to call a play, run a play. There's that. 719 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 1: That to me was ridiculous. All right, demons, let's quickly. 720 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 1: We got a lot more to do here, So let's go. 721 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 1: We'll go quickly through the rest of the game before 722 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 1: we go to our Monday staple. All the games that 723 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 1: didn't get their own section, we're gonna we're gonna give them, 724 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,399 Speaker 1: you know, twenty or thirty seconds each. So we had 725 00:52:58,400 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 1: every game in the league this weekend. 726 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 2: Oh, so the Bucks moved to two to zero after 727 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 2: a late score led by Baker late in the game. 728 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 2: Is betting Baker down a score late in the game 729 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,359 Speaker 2: as much of a lock is good of a lock 730 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 2: these days? 731 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, shout out producer Daniel, who texted the group 732 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 1: when Baker got the ball back down five. You know, 733 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 1: is this an auto bet? And I think we you know, 734 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 1: I bet it. I think he bet it. I also 735 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 1: had the Bucks parlayed with the Raiders, so I'm glad 736 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,919 Speaker 1: I bet it because I ended up losing that one, 737 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 1: so this made up for it. I couple things about that. 738 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,960 Speaker 1: One is about the specific game, and then I'll get 739 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 1: to Baker. I never feel like teams or very often 740 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: announcers make a big enough deal of the two point 741 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 1: convert version to go up seven. So last night the 742 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:09,319 Speaker 1: Texans Nick Chubb breaks off this great run, so they 743 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 1: score with how much time is left? When they score two? 744 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 1: Ten left, and that two point conversion they go for 745 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 1: there is just so wildly important because you get it 746 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:31,400 Speaker 1: and likely overtimes. The worst case scenario, you don't get it, 747 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 1: and you almost feel like, man, do we wish Chub 748 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,919 Speaker 1: hadn't have scored, because if Chubb, if Chubb had gone 749 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 1: down and then you're in a position where because they 750 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:49,279 Speaker 1: were at the time Houston was down, what would they 751 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:54,359 Speaker 1: have been down? They were down four? Right then, I'm 752 00:54:54,360 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 1: an idiot? Why can I not get this right? The 753 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 1: they got? Why am I so dumb? Right now? The 754 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 1: score of the game five was fourteen thirteen. Yeah, jesus, 755 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 1: they're down one. I'm such What the hell just happened there? 756 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 1: And if Chubb doesn't score, all of a sudden, Tampa 757 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 1: is having to use its timeouts. You're kicking a field goal, 758 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, potentially later. But Chubb does score, that's great. 759 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,239 Speaker 1: You want the seven, but what you need is the eight. 760 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 1: They don't get the two point conversion, and now Baker's 761 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,720 Speaker 1: in business. All three timeouts two minutes. Can get going 762 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,959 Speaker 1: with that said, Texans had him in fourth and ten, 763 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 1: and then Baker did some really cool Baker stuff, escaping 764 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: the rush, running seemingly got hurt, then got saved by 765 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 1: the fact that Chauncey Gardner Johnson was talking trash and 766 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden he wasn't hurt anymore, and he 767 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 1: popped up to talk trash right back to him. Baker's 768 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:03,480 Speaker 1: just the best, and Baker absolutely can win league MVP 769 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:08,319 Speaker 1: this year. Absolutely can and the Bucks absolutely can be 770 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 1: the one seed as predicted on this show. Bucks, No, 771 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:23,360 Speaker 1: why would I? I mean, they have played two road 772 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 1: games against teams that were considered either possible or likely 773 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:34,280 Speaker 1: playoff teams. They could have lost both, and Baker made 774 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:38,399 Speaker 1: game winning plays in the waning moments of both. Now 775 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,400 Speaker 1: they get the Jets, then a tough home game against 776 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:47,760 Speaker 1: the Eagles, but they play the Eagles really well. Seahawks, Niners, Lions. 777 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 1: It's not easy. But no, they've got a really. 778 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 2: Sure missing a couple of guys on offense right now to. 779 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, Godlin's going to be coming back. No, now 780 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:03,319 Speaker 1: I think they lost excuse me, Elijah Cantsey in that game. 781 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 1: That's that's concerning. But no, the Bucks are for real now. 782 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 1: On the Baker piece of it, it really gets lost 783 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,920 Speaker 1: in the shuffle, Demons, not lost in the shuffle. But 784 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: I just want to reiterate this that the Cleveland Browns 785 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 1: spent the number one overall pick on Baker Mayfield watched 786 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 1: him in his second year win a playoff game for them, 787 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 1: and then they were like, yeah, he's not good enough 788 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:43,280 Speaker 1: for us. They're like, yeah, we can do better. You're 789 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, and you decided that Baker Mayfield was 790 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 1: not h And I said in his second year he 791 00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 1: won the playoff game. It was in his third year 792 00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 1: he won the playoff game. Pardon me, you decided a 793 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 1: guy who won a playoff game as a Browns homegrown 794 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:10,480 Speaker 1: starting quarterback wasn't good enough for you because Odell Beckham 795 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 1: Junior's dad put out Instagram mixtape ripping It. In a 796 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 1: year he played hurt It and and now you're just 797 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 1: in hell. It's really really unbelievable. And I love seeing 798 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 1: Baker have this success. I love it so much. The 799 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 1: Flip side demons is Panic meter is at a seven 800 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 1: for the Texans and for CJ. 801 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 2: Like, if you're losing, like after, he shouldn't bring it 802 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 2: out in the third game. He's done at the first 803 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,440 Speaker 2: two games. He shouldn't be. 804 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,919 Speaker 1: I don't even know. I'll be honest, I don't even 805 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. 806 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's probably algorithm. Well, CJ, he's like doing 807 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 2: between the legs, walking up and down the field, maybe 808 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,480 Speaker 2: throwing out your receivers or something. Guys need to be 809 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 2: more in tune. But yeah, while losing that you can't 810 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 2: be doing that. 811 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 1: Just feel like the sport. No I like it. I mean, 812 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 1: I mean I like your your critique of it. 813 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, like you said, ever since he said that 814 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 2: thing to Caleb Williams, it's just kind of been on 815 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 2: a downward slope. 816 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 1: Contractually obligated to give you guys the numbers on this one, CJ. Stroud. 817 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 1: Let me see if I can get Football Reference to 818 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 1: cooperate with me. CJ. Stroud through that game with Caleb 819 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 1: Williams in the regular season in his career, eleven and six, 820 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 1: twenty six touchdowns, five picks, a one oh one rating. CJ. 821 00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 1: Stroud since he told Caleb one, coming here, a young fellow, 822 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,840 Speaker 1: let me teach you a thing or two. Eight and nine, 823 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:12,440 Speaker 1: eighteen touchdowns, thirteen picks and eighty five rating, life can 824 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 1: come out. You're fast, man. And the Texans offensive operation 825 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,960 Speaker 1: just does not look good. The defense is still awesome. 826 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 1: But what the Texans have going for them, obviously, is 827 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 1: the division they're in, and if you don't believe in 828 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 1: the Colts, that division's gonna feel winnable. But they they're 829 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 1: at Jacksonville this weekend. 830 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 2: Big game. 831 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:44,400 Speaker 1: That's that's for both teams. Big game, big game, then 832 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,760 Speaker 1: they get a little respit against the Titans. Then it's 833 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 1: at the Ravens at Seattle gets tough man, and so yeah, 834 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 1: I'd be I'd be a little more than a little 835 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 1: nervous if I were the Texans. All right, let's get 836 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 1: to the other Monday night game. 837 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 2: So the Chargers look good again for the most part 838 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 2: last night with another divisional win. Do you think this 839 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 2: is the cream of the crop in that division? 840 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 1: Listen, I think the Chiefs will end up winning the division, 841 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:23,480 Speaker 1: but I have to give the Chargers have looked really good. Now. 842 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,400 Speaker 1: I thought the Chargers at the end of the game, 843 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 1: as I said earlier, made some really really poor game 844 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 1: management decisions, and I don't understand like the Chargers. It's fine, 845 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,959 Speaker 1: I guess, but it is odd to me that both 846 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 1: the Chargers and Otter for the Raiders spent such premium 847 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,720 Speaker 1: draft picks on running backs and don't want to give 848 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 1: him the ball, Like the Raiders refusal to get Ashton 849 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 1: gent involved, and it's like, because he's not good in 850 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 1: pass protection, we'll just have I understand, you don't want 851 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,000 Speaker 1: to tip your hand on oh we're running this guy's 852 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 1: you know, on the field. But you can't spend the 853 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:09,240 Speaker 1: sixth pick of the draft on a guy he was, 854 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, and give him eleven carries in a game 855 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 1: where Gino's having the worst game of his career. Just 856 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 1: can't do it. And myke, the Chargers defense looks awesome 857 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,520 Speaker 1: and Herbert's been really good. My only Charger concern is 858 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 1: I think Herbert's running it too much, and that is 859 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,200 Speaker 1: concerning the other piece of that game is and do 860 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 1: we have any reporting on what Khalil Mack's injury was. 861 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,200 Speaker 1: I know that he was in a sling and he 862 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 1: was holding his arm and so that didn't look good. 863 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:52,120 Speaker 1: That could be really damaging as well the Raiders. The 864 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,440 Speaker 1: It would have been amazing if the Raiders could have 865 01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 1: started three and oh, all right, I'm sorry two and zero, 866 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:05,080 Speaker 1: but they'll they'll take one and one, especially because Demons 867 01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:09,520 Speaker 1: a Raiders next four at the Commanders in a game 868 01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 1: Jaden might not play, then Home Bears at Calls Home Titans. 869 01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,920 Speaker 1: Raiders really need to make hey this next month and 870 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 1: Geno will bounce back. That was a really rough Geno game. 871 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,640 Speaker 1: And we talked a little bit about the Chargers earlier. 872 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:31,160 Speaker 1: All right, guys, I am so excited and that I might, 873 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:37,240 Speaker 1: for the first time in years go to a Chiefs 874 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,720 Speaker 1: road game. You know why because the Chiefs are playing 875 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,080 Speaker 1: in the New York area when they play the Giants, 876 01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:49,160 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, a must win game against 877 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:53,480 Speaker 1: the New York Giants. And if I do go, you 878 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 1: know how I'll get there. My friends at Seki, the 879 01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:00,360 Speaker 1: sponsor of today's show. 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They demolish the Bears fifty two to twenty one. 923 01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,520 Speaker 2: Your guy Caleb saw his stock plummet a little bit more. 924 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,439 Speaker 2: The bigger story here the Lions domination or how bad 925 01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:32,080 Speaker 2: the Bears are. 926 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,920 Speaker 1: Listen, I actually don't think Caleb Stock took a hit 927 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 1: in this game. I didn't think he was great. I 928 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:41,360 Speaker 1: thought he was fine. The story when a team allows 929 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,160 Speaker 1: fifty two, the story can't be the team who allowed 930 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,920 Speaker 1: fifty two to their quarterback. The story can either be 931 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 1: their defense or the other team's offense. And I think 932 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:54,920 Speaker 1: the story is the Lions kind of having a a 933 01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,080 Speaker 1: don't write us off, you know, after one bad game 934 01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:03,600 Speaker 1: reminder and go off looking really good and Dan Campbell 935 01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 1: getting a little get back and So that to me 936 01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:12,240 Speaker 1: is the story of that game. Is Detroit steadied itself 937 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:17,680 Speaker 1: after the playoff game goes terrible, Week one goes terrible, 938 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:22,720 Speaker 1: and they know they're staring down a game in Baltimore 939 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,720 Speaker 1: this weekend. So had they started oh and two, it 940 01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:31,520 Speaker 1: get late early for the Detroit Lions. Instead, they demolish 941 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,480 Speaker 1: the Bears, and the Bears, on the other hand, are 942 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:40,800 Speaker 1: feeling like, man, oh man, you know how far away 943 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:46,000 Speaker 1: are we from just being a good team, much less 944 01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,880 Speaker 1: a great team? And right now they look really far Again. 945 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,640 Speaker 1: I did not think this was a Caleb game as 946 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:56,160 Speaker 1: far as the story. He had the one horrific pick, 947 01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,080 Speaker 1: he had another decision that could have resulted in a pick. 948 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:04,440 Speaker 1: Gonna freak out about that. I am gonna tell you 949 01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:09,880 Speaker 1: that they have Cowboys, Raiders, Commander Saints as their next 950 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 1: four and if they don't come out of that at 951 01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,760 Speaker 1: least two and two and probably need to be three 952 01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:22,800 Speaker 1: and one, they're in real trouble. They're like, and they 953 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:27,920 Speaker 1: might already be in real trouble. I think it's I 954 01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:31,040 Speaker 1: picked them to make the playoffs. I don't think they're 955 01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,559 Speaker 1: dead on that front, but they're in quite the hole. 956 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,519 Speaker 1: Not to Listen, when I picked and make the playoffs, 957 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,719 Speaker 1: I thought through two games they'd be one and one, 958 01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,120 Speaker 1: so it's you know, they're only one game off that pace. 959 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:47,920 Speaker 1: But how they've looked and this is where blowing that 960 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,559 Speaker 1: Vikings game keeps you up at night. 961 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:54,200 Speaker 2: All right, next yees over there in Dallas, there were 962 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,160 Speaker 2: five lead changes in forty one points scored in the 963 01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,240 Speaker 2: fourth quarter alone. Aubrey sent it to overtime. I won 964 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,960 Speaker 2: a sixty four yard and then at the game winner 965 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,160 Speaker 2: on the fifth possession of overtime. You left this game 966 01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,880 Speaker 2: angry with Dallas, thoughts why was that? 967 01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, listen, for Brandon Aubrey is one of the 968 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,280 Speaker 1: most valuable players in the league. The fact that the 969 01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys were it was going to be a sixty seven 970 01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,320 Speaker 1: yard field goal, they had time to try to push 971 01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,960 Speaker 1: the ball downfield and they're like, no, we'll just hand 972 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,000 Speaker 1: it off because we're now well within his range is 973 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:31,679 Speaker 1: so bananas. And you know, Dak looked great. The reason 974 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,840 Speaker 1: I left the game angry with Dallas is because what 975 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:39,200 Speaker 1: we have seen from the Cowboys through two weeks tells 976 01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,840 Speaker 1: me I was too low on them before the Mica trade, 977 01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:46,320 Speaker 1: and had they kept Micah parsons that team could be 978 01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:51,960 Speaker 1: really interesting, and Jerry's whole narrative that the media ran 979 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:56,360 Speaker 1: with that we're you know, Mike is actually so bad 980 01:09:56,439 --> 01:10:00,200 Speaker 1: against the run that this trade helps us long term 981 01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:03,400 Speaker 1: and short term. We've now seen the defense in two 982 01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:07,200 Speaker 1: games without him and they can't do anything. That's the 983 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,639 Speaker 1: best game of Russell Wilson's whole life until he threw 984 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:13,160 Speaker 1: the pick at the end. Like the we were talking 985 01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,120 Speaker 1: about that being the final start of Russell's career, it 986 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,479 Speaker 1: ends up being maybe the best start of his career 987 01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:23,559 Speaker 1: because that Cowboys defense is that bad without Micah. All right, 988 01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:24,760 Speaker 1: let's go to the Niners. 989 01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,960 Speaker 2: So last week you saw launched that you were rooting 990 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,400 Speaker 2: for Mac Jones and he passed for two hundred and 991 01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,599 Speaker 2: seventy nine yards and three touchdowns. How is this game 992 01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:34,600 Speaker 2: about you? And Jimmy g. 993 01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,760 Speaker 1: Well, listen and for anyone, for the folks if they're 994 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:44,280 Speaker 1: watching this pod at the first thing's first office is 995 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,439 Speaker 1: turn it way up or have Wilds come down to 996 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,599 Speaker 1: the conference room so we can hear this. Because it 997 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:59,000 Speaker 1: is so galling to me that my colleagues, really wilds 998 01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:05,760 Speaker 1: can't just say out loud on the show all right. 999 01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:12,000 Speaker 1: Nick was right all along about the Niners quarterback position 1000 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:18,080 Speaker 1: being needing to be judged differently than everyone else's because 1001 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:23,719 Speaker 1: of the Shanahan system. We argued for three years about 1002 01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:28,960 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, with my take being he's actually not good. 1003 01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,240 Speaker 1: Oh he's been the guy. He's went to a super Bowl, 1004 01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,080 Speaker 1: been in a Convergence championship game, and my take was, 1005 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,360 Speaker 1: he's not good. That's the Shanahan system and the weapons, 1006 01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:44,479 Speaker 1: and a lot of quarterbacks could have that level of success. 1007 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:49,080 Speaker 1: They then drop in the final pick of the draft. 1008 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 1: He goes to a conference championship game, in a super Bowl, 1009 01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:55,439 Speaker 1: and we now then argue for two years that actually 1010 01:11:55,840 --> 01:12:00,080 Speaker 1: that guy's really special too, that guy's really good. And 1011 01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:04,880 Speaker 1: we while we see Jimmy g leave there and immediately 1012 01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:09,800 Speaker 1: become a backup, we then see that last pick of 1013 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:15,439 Speaker 1: the draft get hurt. They drop in Mac Jones, who's 1014 01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:20,920 Speaker 1: been horrible for three years. He looks really good, and 1015 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:25,479 Speaker 1: the answer is, well, maybe Max a new player. Jesus, guys, 1016 01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,680 Speaker 1: I know I can be obnoxious. I know I can 1017 01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,880 Speaker 1: be annoying at times. Sometimes though you just gotta be 1018 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:36,719 Speaker 1: like damn it, Nick was right. Turns out Shanahan. Certainly 1019 01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:42,479 Speaker 1: Shanahan plus McCaffrey can inflate a quarterback stats in a 1020 01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:50,880 Speaker 1: way that EPA per play can't judge. And the whole 1021 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:55,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't pay brock Purty fifty five million dollars a year, 1022 01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,800 Speaker 1: well when you can get that production from a guy 1023 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:07,880 Speaker 1: making five million. That's why. So I was always and 1024 01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:12,840 Speaker 1: have always been right about this, and folks just keep 1025 01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:13,160 Speaker 1: doing that. 1026 01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's paying a quarterback less money and keep the weapons. 1027 01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:28,040 Speaker 1: That's perplexing to me. I don't know why they they 1028 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:34,600 Speaker 1: feel like they need to spend money for just average 1029 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:38,080 Speaker 1: talent at the position that you're paying them like they're 1030 01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,519 Speaker 1: an elite talent because of what you do to make 1031 01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:44,040 Speaker 1: I don't know why they do it, but at this point, 1032 01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,760 Speaker 1: folks just don't want me to be right, and so 1033 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:51,599 Speaker 1: they're going to create a bunch of different Well here's why, 1034 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:56,360 Speaker 1: here's why. 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I want to hit every game. 1052 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:56,760 Speaker 1: So Falcons beat the Vikings. The story of that game 1053 01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,800 Speaker 1: is JJ McCarthy got hurt. The real story of that 1054 01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,840 Speaker 1: game is JJ McCarthy looked totally out of sorts. And 1055 01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:09,479 Speaker 1: we are now at seven of eight quarters. He's looked awful, 1056 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:15,679 Speaker 1: unbelievable fourth quarter Game one, but quarters one through three, 1057 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:20,439 Speaker 1: quarters one through four of week two, he looked way 1058 01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:24,120 Speaker 1: over his skis. That's a concern. So that's a real 1059 01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,280 Speaker 1: worry and now it's a Carson winsteime in Minnesota. Don't 1060 01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:31,040 Speaker 1: love that Ravens beat the Browns forty one to seventeen. 1061 01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:33,040 Speaker 1: Were you ever nervous, Demanse? 1062 01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,080 Speaker 2: It started off pretty slow, but I wouldn't say that 1063 01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,760 Speaker 2: I was ever nervous. Joe Flakall just gave it to 1064 01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,040 Speaker 2: us at one point, but yeah to it. 1065 01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was. It was a weird game 1066 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:48,360 Speaker 1: because the Ravens didn't have a ton of yards. Derrick 1067 01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:52,439 Speaker 1: Henry did nothing and the Browns moved the ball. But 1068 01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:56,000 Speaker 1: the Browns just Browns did it repeatedly, got a pump 1069 01:15:56,120 --> 01:16:00,120 Speaker 1: blocked Flacco mistake like you know, just bad, bad errors 1070 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:04,400 Speaker 1: and the Ravens. You know, last year the Ravens lost 1071 01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:08,000 Speaker 1: to the Raiders in Week two, started a two. So 1072 01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:09,840 Speaker 1: this for them to put it on him like that, 1073 01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:13,160 Speaker 1: I thought was great. Bills beat the Jets. My only 1074 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,320 Speaker 1: concern there is Josh Allen looked like broke his nose 1075 01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,720 Speaker 1: like the beat. Yeah, I thought it was worse than 1076 01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,519 Speaker 1: just nosebleed, like. I wondered what happened to him there? 1077 01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,040 Speaker 1: But the Bills looked awesome. Josh didn't have to do 1078 01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:31,160 Speaker 1: much the Jets defense all of a sudden is a 1079 01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,799 Speaker 1: huge concern. You'll let the at the Steelers score thirty 1080 01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:38,000 Speaker 1: four and the Bills score thirty. Speaking of the Steelers, 1081 01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:42,000 Speaker 1: Seahawks defeat the Steelers thirty one seventeen. What everyone's focused 1082 01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:45,160 Speaker 1: on in that game is the Steelers kick returner for 1083 01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,799 Speaker 1: getting the rule and the Seahawks getting a free touchdown 1084 01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:50,360 Speaker 1: out of it. You're shaking your head, what do you. 1085 01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:54,040 Speaker 2: Fincil Aaron Rodgers just completely blaming the guy after the game? 1086 01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:59,719 Speaker 1: Well, the kid, Calvin Austin, Calvin Austin, who's your age? 1087 01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,559 Speaker 2: A great kid freaking through the game. 1088 01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:06,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean Rogers was really bad in 1089 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:13,960 Speaker 1: this game, and he doesn't he doesn't know how to 1090 01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,400 Speaker 1: accept that he is no longer good, and I think 1091 01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,400 Speaker 1: the Week one mirage probably made it harder for him 1092 01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:25,840 Speaker 1: to accept it. But the Steelers defense now on Pumpkin Watch, 1093 01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 1: just like the Jets defense is and the Steelers offense. 1094 01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:31,760 Speaker 1: I don't think Rogers is gonna save the day. I 1095 01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,320 Speaker 1: don't know. Let me look real quick. Who did the 1096 01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:40,720 Speaker 1: Steelers have next? The Steelers? Oh wow, Steelers at Patriots. 1097 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,759 Speaker 1: That's a huge game for both sides. There So Steelers 1098 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,719 Speaker 1: at Patriots, that's an interesting one. They didn't get the Vikings, 1099 01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,719 Speaker 1: who should be playing a backup, and the Browns, and 1100 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:53,120 Speaker 1: then the schedule really get hard. So the Steelers need 1101 01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,040 Speaker 1: to go at least two to one in the next 1102 01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:59,759 Speaker 1: three I don't know if I'm optimistic about that. Patriots 1103 01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:01,920 Speaker 1: beat the Dolphins thirty three to twenty seven to one 1104 01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,840 Speaker 1: of the more exciting games of the weekend. Uh Drake 1105 01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:09,080 Speaker 1: May was awesome, Tua was not. Mike McDaniel seems ready 1106 01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:12,519 Speaker 1: to be fired, and Demon's ay, Mike McDaniel could get 1107 01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:19,360 Speaker 1: fired this week. Yes, they play Thursday in Buffalo. That 1108 01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:23,120 Speaker 1: could be a blood bath. And if that happens, I 1109 01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,960 Speaker 1: don't know. You know, tuas two in Tyreek are still 1110 01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:30,000 Speaker 1: not on the same page. It's just I don't know 1111 01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,720 Speaker 1: how in Miami, what. 1112 01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:34,360 Speaker 2: You have seen from Miami, I don't know how that 1113 01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,360 Speaker 2: game is anything but a blowout. Like I don't Miami. 1114 01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:42,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean divisional game, first day saving but still 1115 01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:47,200 Speaker 1: it feels like Buffalo's gonna molly wop them. Call to 1116 01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,559 Speaker 1: be the Broncos twenty nine to twenty eight thanks to 1117 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:53,320 Speaker 1: the rarely called leverage penalty after a sixty yard missed 1118 01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:58,320 Speaker 1: field goal. Listen, the Broncos deserve to be one and one. 1119 01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,920 Speaker 1: They had no business winning Week one. They did. They 1120 01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:05,519 Speaker 1: should have won Week two they didn't. Also, Bo Nicks 1121 01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:09,639 Speaker 1: was terrible Week one and they won, so nobody cared. 1122 01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:14,080 Speaker 1: He was awesome in week two. He threw one bad pick, 1123 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,000 Speaker 1: but he am I right about that. I think he 1124 01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,760 Speaker 1: threw the pick in the game, but he was unbelievable 1125 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:25,120 Speaker 1: in the first half. But they lost anyway. Again, I 1126 01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:30,080 Speaker 1: picked the Broncos demons to miss the playoffs, and I said, 1127 01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,160 Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna start awesome. I picked them 1128 01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:37,320 Speaker 1: missed the playoffs anticipating a two to zero start. They're 1129 01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:40,280 Speaker 1: now one in one and yet to look good. And 1130 01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:49,280 Speaker 1: they still have that brutal end of season stretch of Chiefs, Commanders, Raiders, Packers, Jags, Chiefs, Chargers, 1131 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:54,400 Speaker 1: and they next week they're at the Chargers winner potentially 1132 01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:56,479 Speaker 1: in first plow or will be in first place in 1133 01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,280 Speaker 1: the division. And Jacob in the Chat wants to admit 1134 01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:02,559 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones the truth. I'm getting a lot of Saints 1135 01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:07,080 Speaker 1: last year. Derek Carr vibes from this cult. Daniel Jones 1136 01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:11,160 Speaker 1: two and oh numbers amazing, and Saints last year started 1137 01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:13,840 Speaker 1: two and oh Car looked unbelievable. Then it all fell 1138 01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,560 Speaker 1: apart and Cardinals defeated the Panthers and one of the 1139 01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:19,639 Speaker 1: worst NFL games ever played. All right, great job, Demons, 1140 01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:23,519 Speaker 1: appreciate you. Great job to Blue Duck Volume, Thank you 1141 01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,840 Speaker 1: to hard Rock, thank you to Boost, thank you to 1142 01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,599 Speaker 1: seat Geek, thank you to my driver who's been waiting 1143 01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,479 Speaker 1: for an hour. I got a run. I'll see you 1144 01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:32,479 Speaker 1: guys on Colin in a little more than an hour. 1145 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:37,479 Speaker 1: Thursday Regular Show, Friday Gambling Show, all coming up this week. 1146 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:38,639 Speaker 1: Talk to you guys. Then we'll try