1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Full Circle is an Iheartwoman's sports production and partnership with 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: Welcome back to an episode of Full Circle post All 5 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: Star Edition, Lexi, how. 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: Are you doing. 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 3: I'm great, I'm refreshed. 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 4: I did not make it to Indianapolis, but lucky for us, 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 4: Mariah did. So She's gonna give us the inside scoop, 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 4: the tea, everything that y'all may not have seen online, 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 4: which was basically nothing thanks to the stud buds. Right, 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 4: it looks like a time. I will say there were moments. 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: Angel wasn't lying when she said that we turned Indie 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: into Miami for sure. 16 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 4: Which is funny, which I'm like, have y'all really actually 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 4: spent I mean, I guess on Robin's in Miami, but 18 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know. Miami's a different type 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 4: of beast, but I've heard from multiple people that. 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:08,919 Speaker 2: Know it's it's so different. 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 4: Showed up and showed out, so that's good to hear. 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 4: It's good to hear they did. 23 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun and the game itself 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: was packed. 25 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: It was absolutely popping. 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: I kept hearing people say when I got back, there 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: was all these misconceptions I felt like when I got 28 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: back about what the game was actually like. The game 29 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:32,639 Speaker 1: was packed, full loud. There were jerseys of every player, 30 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: any player, players that weren't even playing in the game. 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: People were interested in all kinds of things. People were having. 32 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: A great time and absolutely loved it. 33 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: Obviously, there was like some fans that were disappointed about 34 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: Caitlin not playing. I was a little disappointed because I 35 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: was an Indian and I did want to see that, 36 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: but the energy actually there didn't give that. But then 37 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: when I got home, and I because I was working 38 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: so hard while I was there, But when I got home, 39 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: I actually got to check the Internet. I was like, wait, 40 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: everybody's talking. 41 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: Like, it's not a real place. No, it's not Internet's 42 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: not a real place. No, everybody, I don't know how 43 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: many more ways. 44 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that what this season has shown us 45 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 4: is that the Internet is not a real place, which 46 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 4: we already knew that. Everybody knows that the Internet is 47 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 4: the Internet. Twitter is Twitter, Reddit is red, Instagram, like 48 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 4: these are all like little mini universes. 49 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day. 50 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 4: Real life is what matters and what's important, and that's 51 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: where the money is, Like, that's where the people are, 52 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 4: that's where the interactions are. 53 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: So I'm glad that. 54 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 4: You're saying that, because you are a person that works 55 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 4: in the social media space, so you have no choice 56 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 4: but to be chronically online. So I'm sure that sometimes 57 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 4: you can get a little wrapped up in like, oh 58 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 4: my gosh, it is so negative, but it definitely has 59 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 4: adjusted my mindset getting off. 60 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 3: To learn personally to see like. 61 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 4: There's really not that much negativity if you're not. 62 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: On the internet, so oh. 63 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: Oh, not at all. 64 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: The real life is so much more positive. I just 65 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: got done making a ten minute video about all the 66 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: details as to YWBA players whoserve to make more money 67 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: because I was so tired of my comments that I 68 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: spend all morning researching that because when I say the 69 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: fans in the arena, I don't know how it sounded 70 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: on TV or what people really had to say about 71 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: it online. But the ceremony at the end, as soon 72 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: as the game ended, the ceremony at the end, the 73 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: pay them chance. 74 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 2: I have a video of it. 75 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: I need to post it. 76 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: It was insane. And I didn't see it coming. O 77 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: don't know if everybody had a meeting without me planning 78 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: on doing that. 79 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 4: But it's like, you make the best TikTok when you're 80 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 4: like when you're doing a job that you've done for 81 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 4: a long time, you're doing a good job. You've made 82 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 4: the company better while you've been working there. 83 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: As for a race, like that's like simple, like. 84 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: One hundred percent of life. 85 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 4: I hope everybody feels that way about their jobs that 86 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 4: they're in, their careers that they're in. We're not asking 87 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 4: for anything outrageous, And I think that's where people get, 88 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: you know, they go on their little tangents. 89 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: It's like, oh, well they people. 90 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, they use the same every 91 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 4: single person used the same argument over over over over. 92 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: Oh they lose money, da da da da da. 93 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 4: Okay, show me tell me okay, Like we're not asking 94 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 4: to get paid thirty forty million dollars a year. 95 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: We're literally asking. 96 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 4: For like three more percentage points of a revenue split 97 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 4: like minimum. 98 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: Lexie, I know you love numbers. Can I give you 99 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: a couple numbers I learned this morning. 100 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: Do it number one? 101 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: If at max all one hundred and fifty six WNBA players. 102 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: We're making the league average one hundred and two thousand 103 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: dollars a year before taxes as their salary. 104 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: The WNBA is. 105 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: Spending in total sixteen million dollars on player salary. They 106 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: just signed a two hundred million dollar media right steal, So. 107 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: That's that's that. 108 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: Number two, that is an a livable wage in most 109 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: of the cities that the w operates in, especially the 110 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: league minimum okay, And number three the WNBA. While people 111 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:11,239 Speaker 1: might not see WNBA players as as valuable as NBA players, 112 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: I can assure you a WNBA player is just as 113 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: valuable to the operation of the WNBA as an NBA 114 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: player is to the operation of the NBA. 115 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: There is no league without the players, So I. 116 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: Don't the players asking for more money is like more 117 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: than valid. And the WNBA compared to what they're bringing in, 118 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: they just brought in seventy five million dollars from investors. 119 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: They've got the money to double, triple, quadruple that sixteen 120 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:38,799 Speaker 1: that little Measley sixteen million. 121 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: They're spending on their most important asset, which is the players. 122 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 4: And when you like put it in a perspective like that, 123 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 4: the amount of visibility, the amount of endorsements, the amount 124 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 4: of off the court work that we have to put 125 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 4: in just to keep the league relevant, to keep you know, 126 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 4: these checks coming in in the off season, because it 127 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 4: is a very long off season. Like you see like 128 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 4: a lot of male athletes, you know, they're sponsored by 129 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 4: Gatorade or Nike or her state farm, and you might 130 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 4: see them like post one video a year that they 131 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 4: probably didn't even post. They just showed up, read their 132 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 4: little lines and paid someone to post it for them. 133 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: Like, at least in my experiences. 134 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 4: Everything that I do, at least content endorsement, brand, it's 135 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 4: like very like you're very involved. 136 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: And I think I don't know. 137 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 4: If that's a woman versus man thing, if that's like 138 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 4: a personal thing that I do, because I do like 139 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 4: to be involved. 140 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 3: I like my content. 141 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 4: I like working with brands out of line with like 142 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 4: how I feel and things that I believe in. 143 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: So I don't know if that's like just a Lexi thing. 144 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 4: But y'all know that most WNBA players, most female athletes 145 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 4: in general, make more money off of their field, off 146 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 4: of the court, than they do on it. So yeah, 147 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 4: if we want to get paid a little bit more 148 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 4: for what has gotten us here, what the main thing is, 149 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 4: which is playing that sport. I don't understand why everybody 150 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: gets so up in arms about it, because like, this 151 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 4: is the craft, this is the main thing, but we 152 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 4: have to do so many other things in the meantime. 153 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: Because and it would make sense for the WNBA to 154 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: invest in their number one asset, which are the players 155 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: and their production, which is playing in the WNBA and 156 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: not having y'all have to do all of this extra 157 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: stuff to generate income for yourselves. They would benefit the 158 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: WNBA to say, hey, I'm going to pay you all 159 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: this extra bread so that your number one focus in 160 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: life is WNBA, not going to play overseas in the 161 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: off season, not going to play in another league. 162 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: We want to pay you so well that when you wake. 163 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: Up in the morning, you think about the WNBA, and 164 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: when you go to sleep, you think about the WNBA. 165 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: And imagine with the level of competition we have now 166 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: and how incredible the players are now, how that would 167 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: skyrocket if. 168 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: That were the main thing. 169 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: And it is the main thing for all of y'all, 170 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: but out of necessity it has to be put on 171 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: the backgrounder. 172 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes that makes no sense. 173 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean, it's like it's just like a 174 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 4: it's a slippery slope when you get into these especially 175 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 4: right now in the CBA negotiations. So okay, so we 176 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: saw I read an article that there's potential that the 177 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: WNBA would want all players to prioritize the W, which 178 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: means no more off season playing. That means overseas, That 179 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 4: means athletes unlimited, That means unrivaled any other league that 180 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 4: you could possibly plan in the off season. They're, you know, 181 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 4: potentially gonna be like, okay, y'all want more money, then 182 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 4: no more of that. You're locked into the W twenty 183 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 4: four to seven, three sixty five. They go have to 184 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 4: pay a lot of money to a lot of us 185 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 4: for us to. 186 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 3: Just agree a lot of money for that too. 187 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: The WNBA is only responsible technically for us while our 188 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 4: season is going on. So if you want players to 189 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 4: start being in market all year long, wanting us to 190 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 4: not pursue other opportunities in other places all year long, 191 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 4: every team is a facility. If you're going to do that, 192 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 4: every team needs the resources for it to make sense 193 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 4: for players to stay in their markets, which most NBA 194 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 4: guys don't stay in market all year long, but a 195 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 4: lot of them spend a good amount of time in 196 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 4: market and if they do ever want to spend like 197 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 4: a week or two weeks in the city that they 198 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 4: play in to you know, tap in with their coaching staff, 199 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 4: tapping with their weight training staff, they. 200 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: Have a place to go do it. 201 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 4: We don't have that, well, we do, Seattle does, but 202 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 4: not every other team has that luxury. So for you 203 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 4: to remove these off court opportunities, to remove these other leagues, 204 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 4: to remove these destinations that have gyms, coaching staff, weight training, 205 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 4: all these things because you want. 206 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: Oh, you want us to prioritize. Like, no, they tried 207 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 3: the prioritization with the overseas. That did not work, That 208 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 3: did not go overwell. I think it backfired. Honestly. 209 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 4: You have a lot of players that chose to stay 210 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 4: overseas and not come play WNBA because it's not enough money. 211 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: So that was interesting to hear that. 212 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: It was. I knew they were. 213 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 4: Lying like, oh, we love a rob but we love 214 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 4: au No, y'all, don't y'all want us to focus on this, 215 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: which we want to focus on the W two. But 216 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 4: that's not the reality right now, and it doesn't make sense. 217 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 4: For a lot of players to do that, So that 218 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 4: was very interesting. 219 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to give y'all focus on the w 220 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: money and focus on the w opportunities act. Also not 221 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: to mention the fact that the roster spots is also 222 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: another issue, Like there aren't that many WNBA players, and 223 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: the WNBA players that there are are carrying a heavy load. 224 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: It's like it's not easy to be a WNBA player. 225 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: So with increased teams and in games and opportunities and 226 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: roster spots not increasing, the check. 227 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: Has to increase. 228 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: It just makes sense that that that's the trajectory at 229 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: any other company. 230 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 231 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: I hope that things work out because but my thing 232 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,599 Speaker 1: is that I at least my opinion, I don't know 233 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: if you can say this because you're a player, is 234 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: not only do you all deserve the money, They're gonna 235 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: have to. 236 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: Give it to you, like they have to. 237 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to give it. They are going to 238 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: have to give it to you. Like what is the 239 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: WNBA without WBA players? 240 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 2: Get serious? Pay them the money, find. 241 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 4: It and that's not one hundred and fifty additional players 242 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 4: just hanging out waiting. There is a good amount of 243 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: players that are not on rosters right now, but not 244 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 4: enough to be like, Okay, y'all don't want to play cool, 245 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 4: We're gonna bring this group in instead. But the momentum 246 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 4: that women's sports and women's basketball is feeling right now, 247 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 4: I just I just cannot see them being like, nope, whatever, 248 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 4: We're just gonna we're gonna block out. We're not gonna 249 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 4: give y'all what y'all want, what y'all deserve. But I mean, 250 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 4: the thing about negotiation is there's a happy medium. 251 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 3: And it's so. 252 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 4: Crazy comparing this negotiation period to the last CBA negotiation, 253 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 4: because the world was so different five years ago, Like 254 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 4: our main concern was how we were gonna have a 255 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 4: season in twenty twenty because of COVID. 256 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: Our priorities was what are. 257 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 4: We gonna do about women who want to have kids 258 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 4: and what we're going to do about how they're going 259 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 4: to get paid if they're on maternity leave. Like the 260 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 4: way that so many things are different from the last 261 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 4: CBA to this CBA is so crazy, and even how 262 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 4: more included and involved I'm in these negotiations versus the 263 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 4: last negotiations, Like I've learned so much and I'm really 264 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 4: enjoying being in these conversations, even though at times they're 265 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 4: a little frustrating, But it also is very interesting seeing 266 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 4: how many different experiences and struggles that different players have 267 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 4: throughout their career and that they're bringing them to the 268 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 4: table and they're like, well, what are we going to 269 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 4: do about this? Like Diamond, for example, when she got 270 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 4: waved from Connecticut, they kind of were just like, Okay, 271 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 4: pack your shit and go. So one of her things 272 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 4: that she always brought up was relocation expenses, which we 273 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 4: currently have something in our CBA about it, but it's 274 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 4: like very minimal, very like it needs to be more helpful. 275 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 4: I feel like, especially if you if you're someone who 276 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 4: moves their entire life to a city because you think 277 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 4: you're about to spend six months there and then out 278 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 4: of the blue, they're like, oh, you gotta go home now, 279 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 4: but we are not going to help you with anything. 280 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 4: So it's like it could be things like relocation obviously, salaries, 281 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 4: huge travel lot, like where we stay, like any little 282 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 4: thing that you guys can even think of that applies 283 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 4: to like day to day living in our jobs, Like 284 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 4: it has to be written in the CBA. 285 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: And if it's hard for people to understand in the 286 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: context of sports, but this is every employment. Like if 287 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm working at nine to five at a normal company, 288 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: they are taking care of things like healthcare and relocation 289 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: and sometimes your living expenses. It depends on the company 290 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: you're working at. And being a WNBA player isn't a 291 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: nine to five job. It is a full time twenty 292 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: four to seven. 293 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: You dedicate your life. 294 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: This another number I want to throw out there is 295 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: I hear the lost thing a lot. 296 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: Like that's the biggest argument to it. 297 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: And if it's hard for you guys to understand context 298 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: of sports or women playing sports, because that seems to 299 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: be the problem for a lot of people. This is 300 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: normal for tech companies as well, like Reddit operated at 301 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: a four hundred and eighty four million dollar loss. 302 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four. 303 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, like four hundred and eighty four million dollars, and 304 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: an engineering director at Reddit makes upwards of five hundred 305 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year, And there's a lot of those. 306 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: So if that tells you anything about the WNBA and 307 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: how the players are not asking for too much, like 308 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,479 Speaker 1: y'all deserve it, and even those little. 309 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 4: Things shit our entire country. Our entire country isn't debt, right, Trillian, 310 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 4: The entire world, like our own country, is losing money 311 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 4: every second. 312 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 3: We're right. I think we exactly three money. I feel 313 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 3: like we were in New York. 314 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 4: There was like some billboard and it was like the 315 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 4: nation's debt and it was like just moving. 316 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: Oh I've seen those and it goes up. 317 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 3: Every just moving. 318 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 4: I was like, this is crazy, actually, that this is 319 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 4: the world that we need. 320 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: Money is not real. 321 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: Money is not real. The Internet's not real. Are we 322 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 3: even real? I don't fucking know. I don't fucking know. 323 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: Well, I tell you what is real, The Golden State Valkyries. 324 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: That's a transition there. Let's talk about who's surgeon right now. 325 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: So we're coming off of the All Star Break. We're 326 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: back into w's season, and I want to start off 327 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: by talking about the Golden State Valkyries, who won four 328 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: of their five last games and have a real home 329 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: court advantage in the Bay. LEXI tell me what you're 330 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: seeing from Golden State and what you're looking forward to 331 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: seeing after the All Star break. 332 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: Well, we finally beat them, which was nice. 333 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 4: Guys. I got to play. I played fifteen minutes I 334 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 4: scored seven points. 335 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 3: It was very nice. It was my first three point 336 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: make in our home arena the entire year. 337 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: How did that feel? Like? See? 338 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: It felt good. 339 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 4: I mean I like smiled and I was just like, finally, 340 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 4: finally THEYMN. 341 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 3: It felt really good to beat them. 342 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 4: Like I said in our last episode, like we needed 343 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 4: to win that game. And they play like it's night 344 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 4: and day for them home versus away, And I said 345 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 4: that on our last episode. I mean, it wasn't their 346 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 4: best offensive game. Shit, it wasn't our best offensive game, 347 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 4: but we scored more points than them. I think Tiff 348 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 4: Hayes is going to have a better second half of 349 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 4: her season. She was dealing with some injuries in the 350 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 4: first half, but like she's there. 351 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 3: Caleb Thorns, their their leader. 352 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 4: But I think Tiff Hayes also has been a little 353 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 4: bit overlooked because she's been in and out of the lineup, 354 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 4: in and out of. 355 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 3: Games because of injury stuff. 356 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 4: But I think if Tiff, they can get Tiff Hayes going, like, they're. 357 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: Still going to be a very dangerous team. They're fun 358 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: to play against. 359 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 4: They sat in a zone against us again, but we 360 00:16:58,400 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 4: kind of figured it out. 361 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 3: It was a way for us to end the first 362 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 3: half of the season. 363 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 4: But I'm excited to see their development in the second half. 364 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 4: They have a lot of young players, a lot of 365 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 4: new players in the w so the grind. Once game 366 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 4: like thirty thirty five come around, that's when you kind 367 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 4: of start seeing like the wheels start falling off some teams, 368 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 4: you know, the fatigue kicks in. I mean, to me, 369 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 4: they looked tired when we played them, That's what I saw, 370 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 4: as did we. 371 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: But I didn't look. 372 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 4: Over feel tired because I have not been playing a lot. 373 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 4: So it was a great opportunity for me for our team. 374 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 4: And they were able to send Kayla thorn Off to 375 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 4: All Star Weekend, which is very exciting for them and 376 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 4: in their first season as a WNBA franchise to have 377 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 4: an All Star. So I'm excited for Golden State. Like 378 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 4: I always say, like I'm a fan of the Valkyries, 379 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 4: I'm a fan of Natalie, I'm a fan of their 380 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 4: style of play, and I'm a fan of their home 381 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 4: court advantage because it's dope what they're doing up there. 382 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: I agree the and You Die did beat them, And 383 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: moving on, I'm going to talk about the Seattle Storm 384 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: shout out. 385 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 2: To your all stars. 386 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm just like, this is so outside of basketball. But 387 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: Number one I do want to say about because I 388 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: was at the Skills Challenge and I was at the 389 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: three point contest in the game, Skuyler is like, oh, 390 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: when she's on the court, she looks number one so intense, 391 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: like that girl be locked in and she doesn't seem 392 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: like she ever is like oh, this is just for fun. 393 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 3: Never, like she is nothing. 394 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: At all face card never declines like she's eating, she's serving, 395 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: she's giving model, but like she'd be taking things so serious. 396 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, I wish I had that. I would probably 397 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: be much farther in life if I had her competitive edge. 398 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 4: Like that girl nothing is ever for shits and gigs never, 399 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 4: but she is like she does have that you know, 400 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 4: laid back, goofy side, but you have to. 401 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I saw her making tiktoks to people, and. 402 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 4: So she she has she has both sides. But you know, 403 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 4: that's how you're supposed to be when you're you're at work, 404 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 4: That's how you're supposed to be when you're inside those lines. 405 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 4: So I've really thought she was going I really did, 406 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 4: but she didn't. 407 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: And neither did Erica. But it's okay. 408 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: They showed up, they showed out, and. 409 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 4: It was fun to watch them compete out there, even 410 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 4: though I don't like the rules of the Skills challenge, 411 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 4: how you don't have to like actually complete the skill 412 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 4: to move on to the next one, like you can miss. 413 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: You can like yeah, fast, but not too. 414 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 4: Fast, or you'll get disqualified like Wenby and Chris Paul 415 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 4: did when they tried to when they try to beat 416 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 4: the system. So it's like it's like a method to 417 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 4: the madness, like act like you're trying hard, but really 418 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 4: just trying to get through it fast. 419 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, we have a game tonight. 420 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 4: Actually, speaking of us, we played Dallas for the third 421 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 4: time this season. I think I think we're two and 422 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 4: zero against them. We're prepared, we're ready, we're excited. They 423 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 4: look very different than what they look like the last. 424 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 3: Time we played them. 425 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 4: Uh so we can't really even use those last two 426 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 4: games as like any type of I don't even think 427 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 4: we watched much film from our first two games against them. 428 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 4: They have new players, their rookies have been stepping up 429 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 4: and playing really well as of late. Unsure of Djona's back, 430 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 4: I don't think Maddie Secrets is back either. So, like 431 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 4: this is a completely different Dallas team. And our coaches 432 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 4: told us like they might not have been there, like, 433 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 4: don't look at their record like they've been in these games. 434 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 4: They've been in some very close games, but they're very young, 435 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 4: so they've just had young people slippage. But they're a 436 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 4: very talented team and they play hard, and they have 437 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 4: a lot of players that can just like go get 438 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 4: a bucket. And in the past it's really just been 439 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 4: Arique and everybody else. But they have like three four 440 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 4: players on this team right now that can just like 441 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 4: go get a bucket at any time. So I'm excited 442 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 4: to play them. It's going to be a good matchup. 443 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 4: It's going to be a good test for us for sure. 444 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: Well, the good news is Nakan Skuyler fifty combined points 445 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: across their last two and Gabby Williams flying under the radar. 446 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 2: Can you give the audience a little bit. 447 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: Of a looking to her, Gabby who you wanted to 448 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about. 449 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I said when I was campaigning for 450 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 4: All Star her stats might not like jump out at you. 451 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 4: I think she's averaging what like thirteen points per game. 452 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 4: I think she's shooting a career high in three point 453 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 4: percentage right now. But it's just her presence defensively for 454 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 4: me that is so important to our team. She's someone 455 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 4: that can definitely heat up offensively, hit some you know, 456 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 4: very crucial shots. She can you know, play on a 457 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 4: low shot clock. 458 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 3: But it's what she does for. 459 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 4: Us on the defensive end that I think sets her 460 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 4: apart from other players at her position. 461 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 3: She can guard one through four. 462 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 4: I mean, I would say Ezie is our anchor, but 463 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 4: if we have like a mini anchor, it's Gabby. She 464 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 4: gets the hardest assignment every game and she never backs 465 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 4: down from it. And if someone else starts going off, 466 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 4: she's the first person to be like, put me on 467 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 4: that person. Like she's that type of intense on defense, 468 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 4: and her athleticism is insane. Some of the rebounds she grabs, 469 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 4: some of the steals she gets, some of the passes 470 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 4: she catches are. 471 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 3: Just like, what the hell Gabby. 472 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 4: So she's a sign assassin though like you might not 473 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 4: you know, even notice that she's on the court, and 474 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 4: then she'll do something amazing and you'll be like, oh, 475 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 4: there's Gabby and then you'll look up and she'll have 476 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 4: like ten points, seven rebounds, five assists. 477 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 3: And you're like, what did she do all of that? 478 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 3: So she's what do we call our French army knife. 479 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 3: You know, it's a Swiss army knife, but she French. 480 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 4: I like that, so she's our French army knife. So 481 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm so happy that she got that All 482 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 4: Star nod. She deserved it, and I hope that it's 483 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 4: given her some more energy going into the second half 484 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 4: of the season, because the first half was was brutal 485 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 4: for everybody, so but especially for our team. You know, 486 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 4: we have a lot of players that log heavy minutes 487 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 4: on our team and they've been doing a great job. 488 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 4: So I'm excited for her second half. And she's not 489 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 4: flying under the radar no more. 490 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: So that's over. She she can't hide anymore. She's an 491 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 3: All Star. 492 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: Lexi, I want you to explain to me because if 493 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: a little bt ass. Now I have to give y'all 494 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: too much. But me and Lexi have a note that 495 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: we share to talk about. You know what we're going 496 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: to talk about in the show x y Z and 497 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: Lexi wanted to talk about. 498 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 2: The corner three. 499 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: Okay, did I did, so, LEXI give us this, give 500 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: us this myth of the courtner third guys. 501 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 4: Okay, I don't think people understand how hard of a 502 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 4: shot the corner three is. I don't even have the 503 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 4: specific numbers in this note that I'm looking at right now, 504 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 4: but I remember when I wrote that because this was 505 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 4: a personal investigation, because my shooting percentage, even though very 506 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 4: limited attempts, it was atrocious, and I was just like, 507 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 4: I don't understand, like, even in these limited attempts, I 508 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 4: should be hitting more shots. And then I looked and 509 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 4: I was seeing how many corner threes. 510 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 3: I was shooting. 511 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 4: And then I went back because there's a stat thing 512 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 4: online on the WNBA website and the NBA website where 513 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 4: you can see people's like shooting percentages by like zone, 514 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 4: so you can see. 515 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 2: The colors of their dot where they stand. 516 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 4: So I went and looked on my little shooting zone 517 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 4: for the last few seasons, and almost all of my 518 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 4: shots were from the wing to the top of the key, 519 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 4: so very few corner threes. Then when I checked other 520 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 4: players who I consider top shooters in our league, almost 521 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 4: the same exact thing, wing to top of the key, 522 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 4: very few corner threes, and then when I went and checked, 523 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 4: oh who shooting corner threes, it's like post players. So 524 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 4: the corner three, not only is it a very difficult shot, 525 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 4: it's closer than the rest of the threes. So for me, 526 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 4: I train on an NBA three point line, so I'm 527 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 4: already shooting way farther out and it doesn't really affect 528 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 4: me as much on the wings. When I get to 529 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 4: that corner, you know, it's a little bit harder. And 530 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 4: then also because I hit a corner three last game, 531 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 4: that's like a three you hit when you like kind 532 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 4: of feeling yourself, like you've hit a few shots, like 533 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 4: you feel good. 534 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 3: But as far as like. 535 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 4: Just running from corner to corner to corner to corner, 536 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 4: not really touching the ball, not really having any movement 537 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 4: at least for a shooter like me, that's like the 538 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 4: worst shot, Like that's like the last shot I want 539 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 4: to take as my first shot of the game. If 540 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 4: I have never if I haven't been involved in the offense, 541 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 4: I haven't a shot a free throw, I haven't really 542 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 4: moved around a lot. So most shooters in the w 543 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 4: BAY and the NBA that are like high volume three 544 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 4: point shooters take one or less three. 545 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 3: Corner three's a game. I looked that up. So that's 546 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 3: a thing. 547 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: I actually think that's interesting because watching the three point 548 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: contest this weekend, I noticed that like Sonia I believe, 549 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: and even Sabrina, even though she didn't miss many, but 550 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: the ones that she did miss were at the corner, 551 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: like at the very end, like her very last car 552 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: were shots that she was missing, like she was so hot, 553 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: and then she got there and it was like it 554 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: looks a little bit more difficult. Yeah, so you can 555 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: see even in an environment like that, it'll be like 556 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: in the middle it's like hitting hitting hitting storryball hit, 557 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: hitting hit and hitting storyball hit, and then they get 558 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: to get. 559 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 3: To the corner. 560 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 4: And you're like, yeah, it's a thing, but you I mean, 561 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 4: you practice corner threes and you shoot corner threes, but 562 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 4: there's just not very many offenses and actions that get 563 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 4: to those corner three shots. So even when in my workouts, 564 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 4: I hit corner threes just to get like reps in 565 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 4: I'll do like you might get like if someone like 566 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 4: cheats a downscreen, you can like fade to the corner, 567 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 4: but like that's still like off the move corner three shot, 568 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 4: but most offenses don't have many shots geared to getting 569 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 4: just a corner three hit, which is funny because most 570 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 4: teams like end a game or game winning plays are 571 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 4: drawn up for someone to like shoot a corner three. 572 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 4: So it's a shot that you have to practice. But 573 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 4: it's definitely for me like a rhythm shot. Like when 574 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 4: I made the corner three last game, I had already 575 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 4: made one and then I had shot two others, so 576 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 4: I was that felt good and looked good. So like 577 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 4: at that point, I was like, let me just shoot. 578 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 4: I'm open, let me just shoot it. 579 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:13,479 Speaker 3: And it went in. 580 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 4: So definitely a mindset reps. But that corner three, like 581 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 4: we shooters, even Steph Curry, y'all can go look at 582 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 4: Steph Curry, best shooter ever to play basketball. He don't 583 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 4: shoot a lot of corner threes. If you watch his highlights, 584 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 4: you are not going to see that man shooting many 585 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 4: corner threes. He's going to maybe start in the corner, 586 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 4: but he come into that wing. 587 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 2: That's a great point. 588 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: He's like from the corner to the next corner, to 589 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: the back, to the front to the logo. 590 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 3: Right, He's all over the place. 591 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 4: So yeah, that that's funny that you noticed that in 592 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 4: the three point contest, because like that's a real thing. 593 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 4: So if you can hit corner threes, though they say 594 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 4: corner threes get you paid, they absolutely do, but not 595 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 4: if you're like a high volume shooter, you don't frequent 596 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 4: the corners very much. But yeah, so thanks Mariah for 597 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 4: letting me have my corner three ted talk. 598 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: No, I'm glad. 599 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: I mean some of the most iconic basketball shots I 600 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: could think of now that you mention it, game winning 601 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: wise or corner like the Kawhi shot against the seven. 602 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 2: Seventy six ers. Yeah, exactly. 603 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: Like they're very iconic shots, so I guess you need 604 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: to be able to hit them at the right time. 605 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 4: But they're all like but they were all like moving, 606 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 4: like they weren't just like sitting in the right falling here. Yeah, 607 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 4: Kawhi was falling, Ray Allen was back pedaling, like right. 608 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 4: So yeah, when you when you have those corner threes 609 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 4: as an elite shoot, they're like hail Mary's. Yeah, they're 610 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 4: hail Mary's. You're usually moving. So shout out to the 611 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 4: corner three. We love you but also hate you. That 612 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 4: gives me a new appreciation for people who shoot corner threes. 613 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: Yes, as as a like as someone who loves to 614 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: watch basketball with a lot of threes. I'm like, you 615 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: could dounk eighty seven times and I'm like, cool, girl, 616 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: Like I love that. 617 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to go back. 618 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 4: We're gonna before we get into, you know, the second 619 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 4: half of the season. Since we're talking about threes, I 620 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 4: do want to talk a little bit more about All 621 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 4: Star real quick. Did you like the four point shot 622 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 4: or was it too many threes being shot? Because I 623 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 4: will tell you exactly how many threes were taken in 624 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 4: the All Star Game. 625 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna be real, and I just want the 626 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: audience a full circle to know I'm taking a big 627 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: grisk because AT and T signed your girls checks. However, Coba, 628 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: I will say, not the fault of the four point 629 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: shot itself, but I do think okay, generally, let me 630 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: let me just keep it a beating above. 631 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: Would you like see the actual game itself? I was like, 632 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 2: what what happened on? 633 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 4: It's okay, we're gonna get it. We're gonna get into that. 634 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 4: We're gonna get into that in a second. We're gonna 635 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 4: get into that. 636 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but the threes I was not. I was like, 637 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: I think it was more of an effort thing than 638 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 2: it was just the four point shot existing thing. 639 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: I was like, ladies, that's be nice. I started watching 640 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: Ellie the Elephant. 641 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 4: I actually stopped watching the game, and I'm not even 642 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 4: gonna lie to y'all. 643 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 3: I turned that shit off. 644 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: Did you see Page Backer's interview, Yeah, you know what 645 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: say if he was watching and I'm gino. 646 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 3: We were all geno at home. I'm sure in the 647 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 3: arena it was a blast. 648 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 4: Everyone was having a great time, good vibes on a couch. 649 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: Actually, I was watching on my phone. 650 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 4: I was like, I turned it on like midway through 651 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 4: the first quarter and I saw the score, and I 652 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 4: was like, I knew this was gonna happen with that 653 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 4: damn four point shot. But that wasn't even the problem, 654 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 4: like you said it was. It was the just overall 655 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 4: lack of efforts for the most part. But like, it's 656 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 4: still an All Star game, So I'm speaking from someone 657 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 4: who understands what All Star Weekend is. All the obligations, 658 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 4: all of the events. There's so much going on. By 659 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 4: the time the game comes, these players are ready to 660 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 4: get the fuck like, like this is our last thing. 661 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 4: We're here for the fans. We want to have a 662 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 4: good time. But I think they were too like, let's 663 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 4: have a good time. They shot one hundred and twenty 664 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty threes were shot Jesus Christ out 665 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 4: of two hundred and eleven total shots. 666 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: So for me as a fan spectator. 667 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 4: I want the four point shot gone. 668 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 3: I want it gone. 669 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 4: Nika did give me a cute little fun fact though, 670 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 4: she said that the last time they had the four 671 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 4: point shot, it was farther back, So if y'all keep that, 672 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 4: put it back, put it back to where it was at, because. 673 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 3: I was like, that's why I told me. 674 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 4: I was like, everyone looked way too comfortable shooting that 675 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 4: four point shot, so obviously it wasn't that far. 676 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 3: People were shoot off the bounce. 677 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: I think there should just be two. There should be 678 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: one right in front of the logo on one side 679 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: and one right in front of the and it should 680 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: be like a logo shot, and it should be really 681 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: hard to do. 682 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: It shouldnt be like that easy. 683 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 3: Okay, now that we're here, I have some. 684 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 4: Critiques and improvements that could potentially make both the WNBA 685 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 4: and the NBA All. 686 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 3: Star Game better. 687 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 4: One. 688 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 3: No more of that. 689 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 4: The hockey substitutions. Take that out sub like normal. I 690 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 4: think they did the hockey substitutions because there is like 691 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 4: a lack of stoppage and play because there's like no 692 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 4: fouling or anything like that. So maybe like build in 693 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 4: like just pre have like the substitution stoppage of play, 694 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 4: so be like, oh this this like a media like 695 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 4: when the media's come, like, do something just for the subs. 696 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 4: Because that hockey substitution was crazy. 697 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 3: I didn't like that. 698 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 4: I don't like that they didn't have free throws, Like 699 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 4: that didn't really have to be a rule because, like 700 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 4: I said, they don't really foul anyway. But if you 701 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 4: do get foul, like you should go like shoot a 702 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 4: free throw because that's basketball. 703 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 3: I agree with you. 704 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 4: With a four point shot, either take it out, push 705 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 4: it back, or just have one on each side, but 706 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 4: on the same spot on each side. My biggest thing 707 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 4: that I feel like would make the All Star Game 708 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 4: like just next level. And I'm this sounds expensive. I 709 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 4: don't know how much led lights on a court costs, 710 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 4: Oh god, but my idea is to have a court 711 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 4: that lights up and you have different spots on the 712 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 4: court light up and then that's like it has like 713 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 4: a point value on it, but you can only get 714 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 4: that point value when. 715 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 3: It lights up. So for it, and they could do 716 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,959 Speaker 3: that from the top, But then how would the players 717 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 3: see it? 718 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 2: Oh like no, like a spotlight, yeah, kind of like 719 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: they do with it. 720 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: I mean, this is electronic, kind of like they do 721 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: with like the skims ad you know, yeah, like they 722 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: put it on the side. 723 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 4: I'm like they're just need like this game is going 724 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 4: to continue to be less and less unserious because the 725 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 4: NBA did do this, and it was the they put 726 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 4: the led lights on the court. 727 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 2: It wasn't last year. 728 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: It was the year before that, and it was in 729 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: a football stadium, I think, And I don't know if 730 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: it was for the actual game. I'm pretty sure it 731 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: was for the Skill Challenge with three one contacts. 732 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 4: I was there and it was let me see, let 733 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 4: me see, okay, All Star twenty twenty four, So I'm like, oh, 734 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 4: I just opened up an article. 735 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 3: Let me see. It was for the celebrity game and 736 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 3: for the. 737 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 4: Saturday night Yes, yes, okay, that's too much. We don't 738 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 4: want the entire floor to be led. We want, like 739 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 4: because I'm looking at the I'm looking at. 740 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: The video Adam Silver here, you too, laud because he'll 741 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: make it led. 742 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, guys, like this is that's too much. That's too much, 743 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 4: So we don't need all of that. 744 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: It was ridiculess. Here's my opinion on All Star Game. 745 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: On the All Star Game, on both sides, I think 746 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: that what they're missing is what makes sports so great, 747 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: and that's the number one, the simplicity of the game 748 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: just being what it is. Like they take it way 749 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: too far, like no free throws, silly, Like that makes 750 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: it not a basketball game already. That's silly to me. 751 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: It needs to be a basketball game. Quit changing the rules, 752 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: quit changing the timing basketball game. They need to change 753 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: the stakes. I'm sorry, The stakes need to change. The 754 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: players need to want to win. If the players don't 755 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: want to win, if there's no incentive for them to win, 756 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: of course they're not going to care. But I can 757 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: guarantee you they'll they'll figure out a way to win 758 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: that game. 759 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 4: Cause I'm just like, yeah, money for us, that could 760 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 4: I mean, but we're not really even seeing that in 761 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 4: Commissioner's Cup, Like for us like I feel like some 762 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 4: teams want to win Commissioner's Cup, but it's like, even 763 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 4: with the money on the line, the league as a 764 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 4: whole has not made the Commissioner's Cup like this insane 765 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 4: high stakes part of our season, like they have done 766 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 4: with the playing tournament, and those guys already are making 767 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 4: millions of dollars, and they've made that little five hundred 768 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 4: thousand Like, mind you each five hundred thousand dollars each 769 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 4: we split, I don't even know how much we split, 770 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 4: but they get five hundred grand each, right, and to 771 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 4: some of those guys. And the thing is, I think 772 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 4: the best thing that they did was they did focus 773 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,720 Speaker 4: on like the two way guys or the rookie contract guys, 774 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 4: or that money like still means a lot to them, 775 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 4: Like I still think it means, Like five hundred thousand 776 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 4: means a lot to anybody, but someone who's making thirty 777 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 4: five million dollars a year and you're like, right, you. 778 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 3: Get the five. 779 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 4: They've still made it a way to where like even 780 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 4: that first year when Braun and them won, like the 781 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,959 Speaker 4: fact that Braun like acted like that was the NBA 782 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 4: Finals was like the best shit ever. 783 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 3: Like he doesn't need that five hundred thousand dollars. 784 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: Right, and he's and he attributed it to his teammates 785 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 1: that aren't making what he makes and that that money 786 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: could literally change their lives. 787 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 2: So I think that financial the. 788 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: Biggest things, at least from my minety interviewing athletes, working 789 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: with athletes, the biggest thing to get them to care 790 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: is number one money and number two you're going to 791 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: hate this one, just like every athlete I feel like 792 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 1: hates it. 793 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 2: Is playoff implications. 794 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm sorry, those are the two biggest ways to 795 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: get athletes to care. 796 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 4: I just feel like, and I feel like the most 797 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 4: fair implication you could get for playoffs is whoever wins 798 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 4: that team, whoever's representing the East or the West, whatever 799 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 4: team wins East or West gets home court advantage in 800 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 4: the finals. 801 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 3: I don't know, I feel like that's. 802 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 2: That's what That's what the MLB did, That's what MLB day. 803 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, I feel like that's the best way to 804 00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 4: fairly have playoff implications. But for us, But like, I'm like, 805 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 4: even the way some players in our league like don't 806 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 4: really bad an eye for the commissioner's cut money. 807 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 3: I wanted that money so bad. 808 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,479 Speaker 4: I was so sick when we lost that Goldie State 809 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 4: game because if we won that game, we would have 810 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 4: been in like we would have been in the championship 811 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 4: for the Commissioner's Cup. And I was sick about it. 812 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 4: But everyone kind of was just like whatever, next game, 813 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 4: and I was like, no, like that money, it was 814 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 4: just like right there and even if you know, you 815 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 4: still get you still get a check. 816 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 3: So I don't know what it is what we need 817 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 3: to do. 818 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 2: I'm so competitive. I hate losing anything anything like. 819 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:37,439 Speaker 3: You know what it is. 820 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 4: It's so funny because the money you get for being 821 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 4: an All Star is nothing in the w so they 822 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 4: need to fix that. You get more money for winning 823 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 4: the Skills Contest. In the three point Contest, it's like 824 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 4: thirty times more. 825 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 3: From what I see. 826 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 2: I didn't know that that. 827 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 4: Okay, it's not from the league, it's from AFLAC. They 828 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 4: were like, what they just matched what the NBA does 829 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 4: and that the players is the Players Association did that. 830 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 4: That wasn't a WNBA thing, That was a Players Association 831 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 4: thing that got the sponsorship for the skills and the 832 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 4: three point high. I saw this when I was we 833 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 4: did that or they did that, which was amazing. You 834 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 4: saw how competitive it was last year with the USA 835 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:23,760 Speaker 4: team and the All Stars. 836 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 3: Yes, so I don't know for. 837 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 4: Women though, it's like it's more of an ego thing 838 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 4: too than people give us credit for. So it was 839 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 4: funny seeing how competitive those, Like every four years you 840 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 4: were in the WNBA, you're going to get a super 841 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 4: competitive All Star game because every four years is the Olympics, 842 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 4: so you can at least count on that from our league. 843 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 4: But these are some of my other revamp ideas, not 844 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 4: for the game. 845 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 3: Just for the weekend in general. I think they need 846 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 3: to just. 847 00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 4: Include more challenges that will also include more players, so 848 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 4: that would be good for us for as far as visibility, 849 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 4: and then it would be more enjoyable for the fans. 850 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 4: I thought maybe a horse game could be fun. I 851 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 4: love the knockout could be fun. Uh, one on one 852 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 4: obviously everybody wants that now after seeing how dope it 853 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 4: wasn't unrivaled. 854 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 3: And then there's a. 855 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,240 Speaker 4: Shooting game that everybody stands around the three point line 856 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 4: and every shot you. 857 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 3: Make points go into a bank. 858 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 4: So say every shot is worth ten points, so I 859 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 4: shoot ten points if I make it. Then if you 860 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 4: shoot and you make it, that's ten more points. So 861 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 4: every time someone makes it, points get added to the bank. 862 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 4: And then if you miss, you get all the points. 863 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 4: So having a game maybe like that. So I don't know, 864 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 4: more maybe more skills challenges, more fun challenges to get 865 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 4: more players involved. 866 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: You know what. 867 00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay, I don't know. 868 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: Oh, y'all have to play this in basketball, But in volleyball, y'all, 869 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: y'ap do y'all play Queen of the court. 870 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's like one on one. 871 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that would eat to me, like if they 872 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: if y'all playing, I don't know if it's one on 873 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: one or if it were three on three or whatever 874 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: it was, but like I would like for it to 875 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 1: be one on one and like the person who wins 876 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: gets to stay and at the end they get some 877 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: crazy prize and y'all bring in a brand to pay 878 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 1: for the prize, and it'd be something crazy like imagine 879 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 1: one girl like staying there tearing everybody up. 880 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 3: That would be yeah. 881 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 4: So like it would be different from the unrivaled one 882 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 4: on one. It wouldn't be like bracket style. It would 883 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 4: just be like, yeah, queen a Queen of the court, 884 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 4: so I just continue as one on one against a 885 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 4: bunch of different people. That would yeah, something we got 886 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 4: to do something. 887 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 2: I do like USA versus World. That the men's that's 888 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 2: going to be this year. 889 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: That is gonna be good, even though our team USA 890 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: All Star representatives will be a little on the elder side. 891 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 1: I don't think Adam thought of that, do you know, 892 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: Steph Lebron. But however, I think. 893 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 2: It's gonna be going. 894 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, so shout out to wn BA All Star Weekend. 895 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 4: I might have to go next year as a player 896 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 4: as a spectator. You know where it's going to be, 897 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 4: yet I'm not sure where it is next year. I 898 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 4: know NBA is going to be in La Oh, so 899 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 4: I'll be. I'll be there for sure. Well, actually I 900 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 4: might not be because I'll you so maybe not. But yeah, 901 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 4: shout out to All Star Weekend. It was a time. 902 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 4: I enjoyed watching it. It was fun from the internet, 903 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 4: and it was definitely the most meme worthy, hilarious All 904 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 4: Star Weekend I've ever seen in my life. 905 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 3: So shout out to the girl pops, shout out. 906 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 4: Shout out to the stub buds because y'all definitely made 907 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,399 Speaker 4: that weekend what it was, So I hope I see 908 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 4: y'all getting all the things already. 909 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 3: That streaming universe is some it's someone else. 910 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 4: So shout out for y'all for taking risks, betting on 911 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 4: yourselves and going to do that stream and shit because 912 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 4: it's paying off, and it paid off big time during 913 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 4: All Star weekends. 914 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: So shout out to the step Buds free promo for 915 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: the league another reason pay them. 916 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 3: Exactly. 917 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: With the All Star breaks behind us, who do you 918 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: think is going to be making that second half leap? 919 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:35,879 Speaker 4: LEXI I'm trying to be unbiased here, but right now 920 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 4: I'm going to be very biased towards my own team. 921 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 3: I think we are going to make a leap. 922 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 4: We've been very like average in our standards for the 923 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 4: first half of the season, but we've set goals for 924 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 4: ourselves for Q one, Q two, Q three, so we 925 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 4: we saw improvement from Q one to Q two, So 926 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 4: we want to improve obviously in this next group of 927 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 4: eleven twelve games of our season. Adding Tiffany Mitchell has 928 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 4: been great for us. Now we have a full roster. Essentially, 929 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 4: I'm excited to see potentially the opportunities that Dom gets 930 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 4: for us, you know, for her. This season has definitely 931 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 4: probably been frustrating up and down for her with her 932 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 4: opportunities and lack of opportunities, but again that's like the 933 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 4: course of a season and a career. But she's been 934 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 4: working really hard and staying really positive. So I'm excited 935 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,479 Speaker 4: for her second half. And then, like I said, using 936 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 4: the All Star weekend, that energy that that weekend to 937 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 4: propel our all stars, you know, for the second half 938 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 4: of the season, and hopefully they don't crash out because 939 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 4: the wear and tear of a season is a lot. 940 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 4: But we have a very solid team that's ready to 941 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 4: support them and be ready to play all these games 942 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,240 Speaker 4: and win these games. So I'm really excited for our team. 943 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 4: Another team that I'm excited about is the Liberty, who 944 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 4: may a very very impactful move. I think it was 945 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 4: today or yesterday with the signing of Emma Mesaman. There 946 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 4: were rumblings and grumblings of her return to the w 947 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 4: this summer, but we were not sure where she would land, 948 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 4: and she has landed in New York with the Liberty, 949 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 4: the defending champs. Which how did this happen, I don't know, 950 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 4: but it's always good to have a finals MVP playing 951 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 4: in this league. So welcome back to Emma. Why did 952 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 4: you go to New York? They don't need they don't. 953 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 3: Need any more freaking out. 954 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 4: But if y'all are not familiar with Emma Mesaman, she's 955 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 4: from Belgium. She's been in the league for quite some time, 956 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 4: has not played officially since twenty twenty two. Helped the 957 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 4: Mystics win a w BA Championship in twenty nineteen, where 958 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 4: she was named finals MVP. So she has decided to 959 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 4: make her very cute and dramatic return with the defending champs. 960 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,919 Speaker 3: And also I. 961 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 2: Love that for her. If I'm returning, I'm returning with. 962 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 4: The returning with the best and more fun stuff for 963 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 4: the liberty. Jo Quel Jones is returning, So a league 964 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 4: MVP at that so and a finals MVP. So if 965 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 4: we now have what three finals. 966 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 3: MVPs, two MVPs on one team who allowed us to 967 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 3: happen bledgedly she was, does. 968 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 2: That qualify as a super team? 969 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 4: This would be the literal definition of a super team 970 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 4: in my opinion? 971 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 3: Okay, Allegedly she. 972 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 4: Was also looking at Phoenix in the links. So Emma 973 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 4: really said, I'm not coming back here until y'all put 974 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 4: me on a good team, so make it happen, and 975 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 4: they put her on the best team in the league, 976 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 4: which I know the I know the records says otherwise, 977 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 4: I do think the Liberty are the best team in 978 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 4: the league right now. 979 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 3: Over the Minnesota Links. Is that is that? I don't 980 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 3: think that's a hot take. Is it a hot take or. 981 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think that's a that's a 982 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: hot take. As Yanna said, you can't say that anybody's 983 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,839 Speaker 1: the best. They're not the champs, so that's not hot 984 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 1: it's not a hot take. 985 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 4: They just want the championne Okay, Okay, great, Okay, I 986 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 4: was in China, you know, upset nobody. But I will 987 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 4: say I looked at the Power rankings today and they 988 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 4: put the Fever above us, And I'm gonna only say 989 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 4: that it's Recncy bias because they smack. They came to 990 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 4: Seattle and smacked us, So I'm gonna only I'm going 991 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 4: to say that's why they snuck them above us in 992 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 4: the Power rankings. But right now, I think it's Minnesota, 993 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 4: New York, Phoenix, Indiana, US which I'm like, how to 994 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 4: Indiana because they want to I guess because they. 995 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 3: Want yeah very much. 996 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,240 Speaker 4: Recncy Bias won the Commissioner's Cup. 997 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,919 Speaker 2: They won the Commissioner's Cup without Ka Lan. 998 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: They beat y'all, So they're taking those two things and 999 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: it's the Fever. 1000 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 4: I was reading it and I was like, okay, okay, okay, 1001 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 4: what shit above us and Atlanta and the Mystics and 1002 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 4: the like. 1003 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,280 Speaker 3: They put them above a lot of good teams. 1004 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 4: So I mean shout out to the Fever because because 1005 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 4: they're still five hundred, it's just like like we said before, 1006 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 4: like we're just not used to seeing well, no, we're 1007 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 4: not used to seeing ACES team like this. 1008 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 3: This is this is not new territory for them though. 1009 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,240 Speaker 3: This is where they quite literally were they started like this. 1010 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 4: Right, so real OG ACES fans know what it's like 1011 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 4: to not win a lot. But like Aga said, she's like, 1012 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 4: we spoiled our fans, like this is not you guys 1013 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,800 Speaker 4: are not going to get this super dominant team every 1014 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 4: single year, like our league is too talented for that. 1015 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,240 Speaker 3: But the new. 1016 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 4: ACES fans are probably like, what is this, what is 1017 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 4: going on? 1018 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 3: What is happening? 1019 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 4: But the OG fans who've been with them through the 1020 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 4: trenches when they first got to Vegas and when they 1021 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 4: would racking up these number one picks, like they know 1022 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 4: what this feels like. 1023 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 1: So it takes the Liberty forever to win a championship. 1024 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 2: That's sports, it's ebbs and flows. 1025 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 1: Things happen, and every single league there's dynasties and they 1026 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,840 Speaker 1: do incredible and then they have down years like it 1027 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,800 Speaker 1: just happens. But I will say that there are certain 1028 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 1: franchises in sports where they do set the standard so 1029 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 1: high and players like Asia, where they do set the 1030 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: standard so high that the standard then becomes championship and 1031 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 1: that's just the standard standard, and so their fans aren't spoiled. 1032 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 1: That's what they've seen and that's what they've grown accustomed to, 1033 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 1: and that's the standard now. 1034 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 4: And you know what's crazy, I would say Vegas right now, 1035 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 4: like that's the only team in the entire league where 1036 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 4: it's like. 1037 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 3: Championship or bust. 1038 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 4: I feel like, obviously with the Liberty, you want to 1039 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 4: repeat you're at the top of the league, but repeating 1040 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 4: is very hard to do. So if they don't repeat, 1041 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,359 Speaker 4: people won't be like, oh they are horrible, like they 1042 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 4: aren't who they say they are, because repeating as a 1043 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:09,919 Speaker 4: champion is very hard. 1044 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 3: Now. 1045 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 4: When you do that repeat, which Vegas is the only 1046 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 4: team that's done it in like twenty years or something like, 1047 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,880 Speaker 4: then you become a standard. And then when you start 1048 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 4: racking up championships like the Links did in twenty eleven 1049 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,839 Speaker 4: to twenty seventeen, then you become a dynasty. And then 1050 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 4: that's when you get that expectation of we need a championship. 1051 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 4: Because I remember my first year in Minnesota was twenty eighteen, 1052 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 4: so they were very much still in that championship or 1053 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 4: nothing type energy. But then that was also the year 1054 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 4: that my more pea style, so that mentality has kind 1055 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 4: of shifted, and now they're starting to get back to that. 1056 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 4: Seattle was that for a little bit when they won 1057 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:59,279 Speaker 4: their few championships Vegas, like I said, La also when 1058 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 4: they were in that those battles with the Links, when 1059 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 4: the Links were winning, it was like it was like 1060 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 4: the Links, then the Sparks, then the Links, then the Fever, 1061 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 4: then the Links, then the Sparks again. So it was 1062 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:15,280 Speaker 4: like there was a time where championships were the standard 1063 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 4: for multiple teams, and we're not there yet, and I 1064 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 4: want us to get back there. I want us to 1065 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 4: have multiple teams in our league that are prime to 1066 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 4: win a championship, that are expected to win a championship, 1067 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 4: because that leads to more investment from your ownership, investment 1068 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 4: from your city, investment from your fans. Like it's all guys, 1069 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 4: we are in a sports ecosystem. We all need each 1070 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 4: other to survive and thrive, so everything is important. And 1071 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,840 Speaker 4: I'm really excited for this second half of the season 1072 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 4: because I think the Las Vegas aces are going to 1073 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 4: turn a corner. I think that the top five teams 1074 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,839 Speaker 4: are going to have some separation, and I do think 1075 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 4: that at least one of these bottom teams are going 1076 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 4: to have like a street of wins that might get 1077 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 4: them close to the playoffs or even in the playoffs. 1078 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 4: What team it is, I don't know. I'm going to 1079 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,720 Speaker 4: have to I'm going to report back next week after 1080 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 4: we get some of these games, Like we're about to 1081 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 4: see Chicago for the first time this week, We're going 1082 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 4: back to Connecticut again this week, and we played DC 1083 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 4: again in DC. So those are two out of those 1084 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,840 Speaker 4: three teams are considered bottom of the league teams, but 1085 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 4: very talented, very primed for some wins, and. 1086 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,400 Speaker 3: It's hard to play against teams. I don't really have 1087 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:37,280 Speaker 3: anything to lose. 1088 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,719 Speaker 4: You know, you have to come correct against those teams, 1089 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 4: especially when they're at home, because that's where they that's 1090 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,719 Speaker 4: where they'll get you at home when you come in. 1091 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 4: If you come in sleeping on them or not taking 1092 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,319 Speaker 4: them as serious, they're going to punch you in the mouth. 1093 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,479 Speaker 1: So that well, hopefully y'all take care of business as 1094 00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 1: you should. Rooting for you, guys, this is a great 1095 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 1: We said we're going to keep it short, but we 1096 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 1: got into the Valkyries in. 1097 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 2: The storm and everything, and then we. 1098 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 1: Talked about CBA combos and everything going on. So just 1099 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,800 Speaker 1: make sure you tune into next week's episode of Full Circle. 1100 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 1: Follow us on social media, and thank you so much 1101 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:17,240 Speaker 1: for listening. 1102 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 3: Bye, y'all, thanks for listening to Full Circle. 1103 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,799 Speaker 1: We'll be back next week with more basketball for the Girls. 1104 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 2: By the girls. 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