1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: I listened to The Black Guy Who Tips podcast because 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 2: JBC is nice. 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 3: I've been around Japan, the Select trying to cause me 5 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 3: Victor how on the scales off the Rictor the media 6 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 3: says I'm mature. Check me out on Wikipedia. Coach them 7 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 3: off their walkers, let them walk and run and speed up. 8 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 3: I come from a place where the superheroes meet up. 9 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 4: Hey, welcome to the black Out Tells podcast. Your hosts 10 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 4: Rody and we're in the house on a Tuesday, a 11 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 4: very too, very special Tuesday edition of The black Out Tells. 12 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 4: We have a voice that I feel like you should 13 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 4: be familiar with. If you go way back with the show. 14 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 4: I mean, if you go all the way back to 15 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 4: filling the lanes, the very problematic entertaining now the front, 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 4: filling the lanes that was my jam dog, you should 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 4: recognize the voice of one. I mean, a man that 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 4: goes many monikers. I first met him as Walt Frasier. 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: Uh. 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 4: You know, people might know him as Trill. Uh you 21 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 4: know trill Harmonic on Twitter or currently you know T. D. Williams. 22 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 4: You how, you guys have probably read something a boy 23 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 4: him and didn't even know it was him surprised. 24 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 3: What's up, man, what's going on? It's a pleasure to 25 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 3: be on with you. It was pleasure to be on 26 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: with you, Karen. 27 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: You know it's T. D. 28 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: Williams aka konyak Turner, Akady Cravin aka light Skin with 29 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: the pen. So they call it yellow journalism. 30 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: I've been here. 31 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 3: Hitting honeys from the rear, going straw, lasting long because 32 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: a drink in a stout there. 33 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 4: All right, all right, we appreciate it. 34 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 5: You know I didn't know it was rapping today. 35 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 4: Uh well, you know you always got a load of Monica's. 36 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 3: Man. 37 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 4: You know, I didn't know what TV stood for. Man. 38 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 4: You know this dick them digits. You know what I'm saying. 39 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 4: I was wondering what it was. 40 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: Dog. 41 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: It's like MF doing it can stamp for anything you 42 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: wanted to. 43 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 4: And how you being bru It's being a man and 44 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 4: this since you've been on the shovel, man, But I 45 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 4: still see and read you everywhere. 46 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm good. 47 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: Uh like shock G said, just another black man caught 48 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: up in the mix, trying to make a dollar out 49 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 3: of fifteen. Uh huh, but uh yeah, so I'm cooler, man, 50 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: I'm uh, I'm working, I'm doing my day job, I'm 51 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: doing my side hustles. I'm living my life. I'm in 52 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: a new house. I'm enjoying it. I have a garden 53 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: with a rosebush in it. What you know, I mean, 54 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: ain't moving on up, Like the Jeffersons came a long 55 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: way from the housing projects. So I'm just trying to 56 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to live life, enjoy it despite uh, 57 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: you know, the backdrop of American politics and society which 58 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 3: is at an all time low during my lifetime. 59 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 4: True, hey is so, uh what is it like with 60 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 4: the day job compared to you know, writing and whatnot? 61 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 4: Because writing is one of that still like you writ 62 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 4: loan for them mostly, So writing is still one of 63 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 4: those areas where I feel like you can be important, 64 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 4: you can be influential, you can be read, but you 65 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 4: can still be quote unquote nobody to a lot of people, 66 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like very few people kind 67 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 4: of bridge the gap between like you know, like reading 68 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 4: somebody and knowing what they look like don't always go together, 69 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 4: unlike so many other forms of entertainment, you know what 70 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 4: I mean. With social media now, it's like if somebody's 71 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 4: a sensation on YouTube, you know what they look like, 72 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 4: their Facebook page, all that stuff. What's it like, you know, 73 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: writing and you know, and how does that affect you know, 74 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 4: like the day job and just day to day life. 75 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: Well, you know, my real name is not T. D. 76 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: Williams. 77 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: And there's a reason that I use that as a 78 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: pretentious person would say my nom de flume, my pseudonym, 79 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: because I like to keep my private life private. I've 80 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: never been one to be up on YouTube or be 81 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: too much of a presence on Twitter, mostly because I 82 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: do not trust other people. I don't trust the tyranny 83 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: of the other people try to get up into your 84 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: life and you never get them out, or they think 85 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 3: they know you when they don't, or you don't know 86 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: who's going to stalk you, will harass you. And I know, 87 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: you know how this internet stuff. I've seen you deal 88 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: with insane people on Twitter, and I don't like dealing 89 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: with those people. I like to block them and keep 90 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 3: it moving and have them not know me. I like 91 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 3: to be anonymous. The day job, I teach for a living, 92 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: and so I teach at the university level, and that 93 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 3: is a very contrasting thing and It's another reason that 94 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 3: I need to keep my alias because I work at 95 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 3: a university where the person who's president of the university 96 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: now is in all likelihood installed by one of the 97 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: Koch Brothers programs. And so this is not, you know, 98 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 3: an agenda that embraces the sort of ideas that I 99 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 3: express in my day to day life. So it's important 100 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: to keep my personal and my pri of it business 101 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 3: very separate from what I write on the internet. And 102 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 3: also the students I teach. Our big groups of kids 103 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 3: from small towns and suburbs, and they are not black 104 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 3: by and large, and so I try to I certainly 105 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 3: try to educate them, but I'm trying to teach them 106 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: how to reason and think critically about society. The last 107 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 3: thing they need to do is know exactly what my 108 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: opinions are, because that would taint the classroom and frankly 109 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: would turn some of them off. I think, given where 110 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 3: they're coming from, in the low level of education that 111 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: we provide at the public level all over America. 112 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: You know, so they. 113 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 3: Already have no idea what's happening in society. It's certainly 114 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 3: not in terms of the forces that have shaped black 115 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 3: life in America. So so yeah, my pieces would be 116 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 3: as very strong to them, I think, yeah. 117 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean and it's also like consequences of 118 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 4: getting caught out here being woke as a black person 119 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 4: as opposed to you know, a lot of other areas 120 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 4: when we've seen people that are in public positions even 121 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 4: you know, like police officers and ship that have been 122 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 4: able to express like really bigoted opinions you know, go 123 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 4: on TV and uniform and sam and still there's no consequences. 124 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 4: But uh yeah, definitely as a as a black person, uh, 125 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: saying that kind of ship, you know, or saying woke shit, uh, 126 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 4: for some reasons considered the threat. 127 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: You know. 128 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: It's it's it's sad though that it has to even 129 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: be turned like alternative, low revolutionary to just run down 130 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: the facts of American history. Right, it's a frightening concept. 131 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, you got some uh, you got some empathy and 132 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 4: some uh some historic knowledge. You woke, brother, and you 133 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 4: better watch your back because we don't appreciate your coming 134 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 4: around here. 135 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 5: Sho, don't get too oke. They put you to sleep. 136 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, they neither put some of these boke Hotep brothers 137 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 4: to sleep immediately anyway, their Nigga's gonna live forever, motherfucker. 138 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 5: They're gonna they gonna live forever. 139 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 6: The ones that's actually out there trying to do the 140 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 6: right thing, them the ones that die young. 141 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 4: So for people out there that are like writers or 142 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 4: aspiring writers and stuff, like, what's the what's the process man? 143 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 6: On? 144 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 4: Like you, you know, getting on? Because I mean I 145 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 4: see your stuff, you know, the cauldron, the root, you know, Like, 146 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 4: what's the process like these days? 147 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: Man? 148 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 4: Because I know it's changed over our lifetimes as far 149 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 4: as the uh, you know, getting on and getting your 150 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 4: stuff red? 151 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: For sure, you know, I would I would speak about 152 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 3: this one from my perspective, and then two from kind 153 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: of an objective distance from my perspective, because my perspective 154 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: is not a perspective anyone should follow. I'm about integrity 155 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: and that does not go very far in society. And 156 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: I take my own pace in my own path. I've 157 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: always felt that way. It's because of how I grew up. 158 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 3: You know, I grew up in a welfare hotel. I 159 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: was homeless in New York City. I lived in a 160 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: place called the holl Hotel that was really a crack house. 161 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: If you remember New jack City, there was the Carter. 162 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: The other hotel like that in tom Square was the Holland, 163 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: and that's where I lived. So I saw things at 164 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: a young age that changed my perspective and broaden my 165 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: horizon in terms of human behavior and the worth of life. 166 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: A nine to five job wasn't gonna make my life 167 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: worthwhile after that experience, just fitting in wasn't gonna make 168 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: it worthwhile. So I have grand plans in terms of 169 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: the pace of my novel. When I put it out 170 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 3: how I put it out, it's got to be not 171 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 3: about ego, not about just getting a check, but about 172 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 3: the overall vision. Right that being said, that's not something 173 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 3: that anyone else should follow. That shit is crazy and 174 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: it doesn't. 175 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: Now. 176 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 3: I mean in terms of getting on you got to 177 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 3: be persistent. You got to write something of quality. You know, 178 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: if you write something of quality, regardless of your presence 179 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: on the Internet or whatever else, there will be people 180 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: who flop to it, and the right people will see it. 181 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: It's about being lucky, being in the right place at 182 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: the right time. With the Cauldron, a friend of mine said, Hey, 183 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: they're starting this new site. 184 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: You should write for it. 185 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: You should pitch them something. I was nobody to them. 186 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: They had no idea I have a talent for writing 187 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: and thinking, there's no reason that they would know. I 188 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: went to one of the top universities and then one 189 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 3: of the top writing programs in the nation. But I 190 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: wrote them a piece on I Think that role Moray, 191 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 3: the dude from the GM for the Rockets, and they 192 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: got them like a hundred thousand hits. Next thing, you know, 193 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: they're like, hey, write me another story. That jumps off 194 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 3: to me getting on Houston Sports Radio. You know, that 195 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 3: jumps off to people retweeting my stories, and then one 196 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: more stories. Then Sports Illustrated incorporated them. That leads to 197 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 3: a larger audience. And then when I wrote the Charles 198 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 3: Barkley piece, Yisha, who I believe has been on your 199 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 3: show before him, Yeah, she reached out and she said, hey, 200 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 3: if you have any pitches for the Root, that would 201 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: be wonderful. And I went back and forth with her, 202 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 3: hashed out a couple ideas and they've been wonderful and 203 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: give for me the freedom to express myself. And you said, 204 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 3: I write long form. I think you shoul would tell 205 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 3: you that I have a new art form. It's called 206 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: too long form. If you're looking at my shit. Like, 207 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 3: remember your audience, they're trying to read, no damn book, 208 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 3: what is this? 209 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be on point, though, man like it's our 210 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,239 Speaker 4: own point as well. Researched. You know, you give great examples. 211 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 4: But I also don't have to edit it, and I 212 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 4: also see the final version, so I don't know what. 213 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 4: I'll hit the copyroom floor by the time I see it. 214 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: You know. 215 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 3: Usually I go through three or four different drafts, and 216 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 3: I do it quickly. I'll write anything I write. It's 217 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: probably gonna be written in a day, maybe three hours max. 218 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: But that means I gotta go through it. I go 219 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 3: through it, and I step away for thirty minutes. I 220 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 3: come back, I read it, I read it again after 221 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 3: thirty minutes, and I keep trying to trim as much 222 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 3: as I can. As a writer, it's a good problem 223 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: to have when you overwrite, because you can take out. 224 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 3: The difficult thing is when you don't have shit the 225 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 3: same and every once in a while with some of 226 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 3: these black waysites that I read, but people are just 227 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: trying to get page views. I'm reading, I'm like, you 228 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 3: ain't got a damn thing to say, Why did you 229 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: write this? 230 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 2: It's like going to sam poetry readings. 231 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: Or anything where there's a stage. The stage will attract 232 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 3: people who want attention, but it doesn't mean it's attracting 233 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: people with talent or who actually. 234 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: Have anything to say. 235 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 3: For me, I don't want to stand on that stage 236 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 3: unless I have something to say that's not about me, 237 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 3: but about a grander issue, because the struggle in America 238 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: that my family has something under, that my friends have 239 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 3: suffered under, and that people like you and Karen, who 240 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: I don't know at all except from interacting with you 241 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 3: on the internet, and yet what I feel is a 242 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 3: commonality of purpose and struggle that connects us. And if 243 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 3: I don't have anything to say about that that's insightful 244 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 3: or that pushes that movement forward, then I don't want 245 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: to be on that stage. 246 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 6: So I feel you, And it's one of the things 247 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 6: where you talk about that stage. A lot of people 248 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 6: get on the stage and not don't really know what 249 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 6: it takes to be on stage to sacrifice, and it's 250 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 6: almost they get up there and they bastardize it because 251 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 6: because they just won't the light, but don't really realize 252 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 6: that a lot of people sacrifice and go through things 253 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 6: and sometimes most people don't even want to light on 254 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 6: them even though it's deserved. 255 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 4: Sometimes, yeah, visibility is it's on like it's good and 256 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 4: it's bad, you know. You know, it's like I think, 257 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 4: on the come up, it feels like, well, I want 258 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 4: to get attention for the things that I'm doing, you know, 259 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 4: I want to make all the list, you know, I 260 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 4: want to get all the followers on Twitter and all 261 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 4: that shit. But then it's also like you as your 262 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 4: platform gets bigger, as you rise kind of up the 263 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 4: ranks in people's eyes, people just kind of stop seeing 264 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 4: you as equals as far as like your humanity and shit. 265 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 4: So it can definitely be a lot man, I know, 266 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 4: you know, the just the comments section. When I look 267 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 4: at a lot of stuff that I read, I'm just like, yo, 268 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 4: what is this person thinking? You know what I mean 269 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 4: about the author? You know, because and I mean there 270 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 4: are some troll ads, bad authors, are some bad pieces. 271 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 4: But sometimes people can almost like dehumanize as far as 272 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 4: as far as writing. Though. It's also interesting that to 273 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 4: not write when you have nothing to say is a 274 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 4: skill that I think people don't really understand or respect 275 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 4: because they really think it's about it's like the quantity 276 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 4: of content and not the quality of content, as opposed 277 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 4: to pointing somebody like, look at these things I wrote 278 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 4: that are really well done instead of I wrote thirty 279 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 4: seven hundred pieces dog like, Yeah, I've read like I've 280 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 4: read articles where people like completely contradict themselves within the 281 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 4: same fucking art, And you're just like, it's a logic fallacy, 282 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 4: that just another set of eyes. Or maybe you know 283 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 4: that thirty minutes where you walk away and come back 284 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 4: like Trell was talking about, Maybe that would have helped 285 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 4: you out as opposed to you just followed into a 286 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 4: circular logic track that so many people fall into. 287 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 6: Yes, that and also what I realized too, to the 288 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 6: foundation what you were saying before, people don't know how 289 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 6: to write. It's amazing how many people just don't know 290 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 6: the foundation of writing. And a lot of it is 291 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 6: to me, it follows to an extent the same extent 292 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 6: as journalism. Who what, when, where, why and how and 293 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 6: all that is skipped in people's writing, because if you 294 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 6: answer those foundational questions, you can write a great piece. 295 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 6: But people are trying to do the hot takes. They're 296 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 6: not doing research, they're not going to find out anything. 297 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 6: Then you know, next thing, you know, this is how 298 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 6: a lot of people get compy plagiarism when they don't 299 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 6: have nothing to say, they go cut copy paste somebody 300 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 6: else's shit because they ain't got nothing to say. 301 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 4: Now, because you write, you know, too long form, as 302 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 4: I used tool say to long, does it help kind 303 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 4: of cut back on some of that kind of shit 304 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 4: because I feel like people not gonna get too mad 305 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 4: at your pieces because most people don't have the patience 306 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 4: to take time and read. And you know what I'm saying, 307 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 4: you probably already thought of most you know, retorts and 308 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 4: critiques throughout the piece. You probably addressed them. 309 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: Look, I mean the key. I'm listening to everything he's saying, 310 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: and what I keep coming back to, I'm coming back 311 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: to three three things that I'm thinking of. One is 312 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 3: when you're talking about the things that allow me to 313 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: leave out some of the problems that you've brought up, 314 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 3: some of the issues you brought up with characteristics of 315 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 3: bad writing. It's one. I don't write from emotion ever. Now, 316 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: there might be a motion in my work, there's passion 317 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 3: and conviction, but that always comes from logic and fact 318 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: and with a lot of the writing. Because of the 319 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 3: proliferation of blogs and startup sites, a lot of the 320 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: writing doesn't have any checks and balances on it, right, 321 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: so you have to have some ground in the history. 322 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: It's almost like hearing when you hear black people talk 323 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: about civil rights organizations. For example, you know, I worked 324 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: in some rights. I know Roy Wilkins. I know the 325 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 3: history of the NAACP. I know the difference between the 326 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: NAACP and and DOAACP legal defense and educational funds. And 327 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 3: every once in a while I'll hear a black person 328 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 3: just like the ACP ain't shit and it means this, 329 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: and it's that, and then white people have been running 330 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: that since that, and I'm like, no, that's not actually 331 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: the history. And here's how it went. Here's what happened 332 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: in the seventies. Here's when Andrew Young broke with Jews 333 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: over Israel, and then this division started. This person was 334 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 3: on the board, Roy Wilkins to quasi infumate. There's a 335 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 3: complete change and a shift, and Ben Hooks and everyone 336 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 3: else and all the other executive directors, but none of 337 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: you are actually mentioned in that history because you don't 338 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 3: know it. So because you're emotionally frustrated with an organization, 339 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 3: start to make grand sweeping statements without understanding the history 340 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: behind it. So that's one thing that I never write 341 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: unless I understand the topic. The other thing is you're 342 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 3: talking about quantity versus quality. Not write long, but I 343 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 3: don't write often, and so I remember when I went 344 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 3: to this program called the Eye would Writer his Workshop, 345 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 3: a really strong writing program. There was one of my friends, Kevin, 346 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 3: was talking about another guy named Stewart. Stewart would write 347 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: a book every. 348 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: Six months, and he was very proud of that. 349 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, I just finished two books this year, 350 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 3: and he had like six books. None of them have 351 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: been sold. I think eventually one of them sold, and 352 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: he's working on his second. 353 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: But he can't write. 354 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 3: And on top of that, my man Kevin was like, 355 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 3: you know, instead of two books a year and being 356 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 3: on your sixth book, I wish you would have taken 357 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: three years to write one good book, you know, and 358 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 3: then your next book might be anticipated instead of people 359 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: seeing this your fifth and then like all the other 360 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 3: ones were born too. And that's the thing. You don't 361 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 3: have to write often, but when you do write, it 362 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 3: has to hit so people anticipate that next piece. If 363 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 3: you write four pieces and three of them. 364 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 2: Are man but one is really good, no. 365 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 3: One's looking for the fourth one necessarily, you know what 366 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: I mean. No one's looking for the fifth one. And 367 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 3: then I think about the Writer's Workshop. It's one of 368 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: the top programs in the nation. Peeler Surprise is pouring 369 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 3: out of here all the time. They co sponsor a 370 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 3: reading by Lena Dunham because one of their mediocre graduates 371 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 3: is a writer on girls. And my whole thing is, 372 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 3: you got to protect your brand, and that comes back 373 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 3: to quantity versus quality and historical research. Your brand is 374 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 3: what sells every piece you put out. If you establish 375 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 3: that you are of a certain level of intelligence and insight, 376 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 3: people will read. If you are to write his workshop, 377 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: you don't partner with Lena Dunham to promote her shitty book. 378 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 3: If you are the best restaurant in New York City, 379 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 3: you don't co partner for a sandwich at McDonald's. That's 380 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 3: your brand up right, It's not worth it. You're gonna 381 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 3: cake no matter what. But your What really gets your 382 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: elite clientele is your brand means so much. Your integrity 383 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: is intact. They know they can trust you, they can 384 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 3: go with you. So I strive to be that way 385 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: in my fiction write and in my my my freelance pieces. 386 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 3: You know, you know what you're getting when you when 387 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 3: you step up to my piece, even if it is 388 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: three pages, you know it's not gonna be three pages 389 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: of dribble, so you'll sit with it. And that's what 390 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 3: I strive for people to believe about me when I write, 391 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 3: and you. 392 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 4: Don't know, and you don't really get a lot of 393 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 4: like comments and shit, because I feel like a lot 394 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 4: of times the less well written stuff gets a lot 395 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 4: of interaction as far as people saying things, but it's 396 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 4: typically like stupid people responding to something that was stupid 397 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 4: that was said, you know what I mean. It's as if, 398 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 4: like if if an article was like, let me tell 399 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 4: you why all lives matter, that article is gonna get 400 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 4: a shit ton of responses, even even though it's gonna 401 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 4: be a lot of people just pointing out the obvious 402 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 4: and things of that nature and it's probably not gonna 403 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 4: be a very long piece. Do you get a lot 404 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 4: of responses that way? Like, uh, you know, when you're 405 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 4: writing about well, you like writing about a vest statistics 406 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 4: as a you know, almost a retort to some of 407 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 4: the things that was said with say, I Mike Willbond 408 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 4: and his piece, like do you get a lot of 409 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 4: response from that? 410 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: All right? So that's a difficult one because the willbomb 411 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 3: piece might have gotten more responses. But I wrote that 412 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 3: for five starters, yea, that I wanted to. I wanted 413 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 3: to help their site because I believe in that podcast. 414 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 3: I believe in their comedy and their insight. But it's 415 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 3: not a site with a lot of promotion on it. 416 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 3: So I did get I think Bomani retweeted that, which 417 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 3: I'm sure I helped traffic, But mostly I don't get 418 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 3: knee jerk responses like but I do provoke, what is 419 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: it saying to hit dog hollars? 420 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: So I will get responses that are. 421 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 3: Very heartfelt from black readers in decent white readers, But 422 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 3: I also get those troll responses like I know that 423 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 3: I've cut some ignorant white person deep because they've written 424 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 3: five pages in the comment session citing statistics about how 425 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 3: black people scourge of the earth and shit like that. 426 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 3: I don't even read those. I honestly cannot understand how 427 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 3: people indulge trolls. If you understand the psychology of it. 428 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 3: You're not even supposed to read their comments. It's the 429 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 3: lowest form of human human communication. Those those message sections, 430 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 3: those comment sections, when people are just writing ignorant shit. 431 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 3: Don't keep reading black people. Save your emotions, keep them intact. 432 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 6: I tap out that that I have rude. Don't read 433 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 6: the comment section, like literally, I don't read it. I'm like, 434 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 6: I'm good, I read the article. 435 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 5: I'm out. 436 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't read the comment sections. And it's funny 437 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 4: with social media now the comments come to you, you 438 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 4: know what I mean? Motherfuckers will confine your act. Be like, hey, 439 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 4: I don't First of all, I blame Obama. How can 440 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 4: you say that in your article? You know, ship like that? 441 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 3: But what is that you're hitting them with that? What 442 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 3: was that? Not the It's not Leo DiCaprio. 443 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 4: It's not it's Timperlate. Yeah, that's my favorite right now. Dog, 444 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 4: I listen one day, I think I don't know if 445 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 4: it's seating in tweet deck or what, but it had 446 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 4: it was giving me issues with retweeting it, like because 447 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 4: I send it to any troll and block them, and 448 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 4: for some reason, it wouldn't let me send the ship 449 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 4: and I was like, yo, Twitter blocked me from fucking 450 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 4: because I'm responding to fucking harassment. Like so, but I 451 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 4: started changing like punctuation in that bitch because I was like, 452 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 4: you getting the sweet soul baby, Like this is that 453 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 4: chain music? You know what I'm saying. This the finishing move. 454 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 4: You gonna get some of this. 455 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 5: So it was like duplicate post. 456 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's it's fine now I fixed it, 457 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 4: but yeah, I was. 458 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 7: Uh. 459 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 4: I was definitely hitting people up with that ship because 460 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 4: I was like, nah, you catching this this heat home block, Uh, 461 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 4: you gotta do it like that. You gotta make it 462 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 4: fun for yourself, because it really ain't nothing fun about 463 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 4: getting trolled all day unless you can like find some 464 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 4: some joy in it for yourself. 465 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 6: And because you write long form and I don't how 466 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 6: can I phrase this? Do you find that people with 467 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 6: more intelligence and critical thinking have a tendency to. 468 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 5: Reach your work? 469 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 3: Not necessarily because I don't think reading long form. You know, 470 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 3: to somebody center, it's about investment and attention span. So 471 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 3: you're going to get people who are more invested in 472 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 3: what I'm writing about will read through regardless of education levels. 473 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 3: Like I don't think And I don't even know how 474 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 3: to define intelligence because I've gone to some of the 475 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 3: best institutions with some of the stupidest people on earth. 476 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 3: But I know my family members. I use them as 477 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 3: a gauge. They might not all have gone to the 478 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 3: best schools, or even to school period, but when an 479 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 3: issue matters to them, and they're intelligent and they understand 480 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 3: the world, they will dig into that issue. But the 481 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 3: way American culture is set up is that it's just 482 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: difficult to get anyone of any educational background to read 483 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 3: anything that's too long. Everything comes in sound bites clips. 484 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 3: It's got to be quick. So I'm writing and what 485 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 3: is to some extent a dying archaic form, and I 486 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 3: understand that. I just think the quality of the piece 487 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 3: and the importance of what I'm writing about is strong 488 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 3: enough to get people hooked. Now, if I was writing 489 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 3: some bullshit like five pages about why I think it's 490 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 3: great to look at stars, you know, like some self 491 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 3: indulgent shit, nobody should read that. But as long as you. 492 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 8: Have a narrative structure and pertinent. 493 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 3: Points and you know how to write, anyone with intelligence 494 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 3: who hops into your narrative will follow it through the end, 495 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,239 Speaker 3: as long as you keep them. I mean, that's your 496 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 3: job as a writer. You pull them along. It's almost 497 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 3: like you're a tour guid. Like if you were to 498 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 3: take someone on a tour of Charlotte right now, you 499 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 3: would have like eight spots in mind that really brought home. 500 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 2: What it meant to live there. 501 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 3: You know, it would be the bad writer would be like, hey, 502 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 3: on this corner is a rock and then it's like 503 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: twenty minutes later you're like, man, I don't ever want 504 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 3: to come to fucking Charlotte. 505 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 2: Bullshit. 506 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 3: So your job as a writer is to be a 507 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 3: tour guiy who hits every major site in that city, 508 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 3: and by the end of the people like, that's a 509 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 3: fascinating fucking city. Man, I feel like I know it by. 510 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: Now, you know. 511 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 4: And like, also, you know, we kind of come up 512 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 4: from the you know, the wolf den of s o 513 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 4: h h. I feel like it prepares people for the 514 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 4: vitriol of the internet and ship anyway, you know what 515 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 4: I mean. Like it's all feels a little bit light 516 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 4: work compared to how savage the boys could get. 517 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 6: So I've never had to deal with that because Roger 518 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 6: has told me the stories and stuff like that. 519 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 5: I'd be looking at him horrified, like damn that. 520 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I didn't even know. It wasn't supposed to 521 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 4: be like that. Time went on another message board and 522 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 4: got kicked off. I was like, but all I said 523 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 4: was that dude was a punk ass cool. It's like, yeah, 524 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 4: you can't. You can't be cussing at people were saying 525 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 4: shit like that. So it's you know, it's that. But 526 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 4: I feel like, in a way, it kind of toughens 527 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 4: I mean, not that everyone should do it. I'm not 528 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 4: saying that's okay, but it toughens. It toughens you up 529 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 4: for a little bit where you're kind of like, all right, 530 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 4: well fuck it. You know, what's the worst thing somebody 531 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 4: can say about me? That had me his head? 532 00:25:59,640 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: You know. 533 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 3: But there's a reason too beyond that that you were 534 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 3: even able to do those message boards and that those 535 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 3: message boards were that way, which is that being black 536 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: in America, unless you grow up in very rarefied, privileged air, 537 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 3: you go through the jungle. You're like you every day 538 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 3: is a battle. I mean, you are being You are 539 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 3: among the disenfranchised population outside of Native Americans in the country. 540 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 3: We are the one outside of Native Americans who are 541 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 3: the most disenfranchised, and we are sitting there, the society 542 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 3: is shitting on us. We shit on each other, and 543 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 3: you build up a defense shield and. 544 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 2: A quick wit and survival instincts. 545 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 3: So ain't no message board gonna face it. Nobody's gonna 546 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 3: call me an uncle Tom, a coon of this or that, 547 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 3: and it's nothing to. 548 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 4: Me, Like I want to do that ship like. 549 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 3: It's drizzling, people pulling out umbrellas like this is storm, 550 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: and I'm like, motherfucker, I'm not even getting wet. 551 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's such light where I'm like, I only, uh. 552 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 4: One of the few things that significant like will actually 553 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 4: draw a chuckle out of me in real life is uh, 554 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 4: if anybody's ever accused me of being a coon or 555 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 4: acting white or something, because it's just so foreign to 556 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 4: me that I can't help but laugh. It's just so 557 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 4: not my experience growing up that it's just not a 558 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 4: scar that I have. So it's just so when people 559 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 4: are like, well that see, it's it's opinions like this 560 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 4: man to make you a fucking black person hating coon, 561 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, man, all right. 562 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 3: See I feel you've gotten that recently in my observation. 563 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 3: I'm not on Twitter a lot, but I think you 564 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 3: you would talk That's funny though. I was talking to 565 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 3: Yosha about the same exact concept and then you went 566 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 3: and said it something on Nate Parker. 567 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yo, I heard him. Ironically, it was talking about 568 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 4: Nate Parker that made me say, uh, basically, straight black man, 569 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 4: the white people are white people. That was It was 570 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 4: because I talked about that, that's. 571 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 3: When you were getting it real bad and uh, and 572 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 3: that's funny. I mean it's that's the gender problems in 573 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 3: this country or that stark and that's growth. 574 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's sad, man, because we can experience you know, 575 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 4: I always say like like not always, but being a 576 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 4: black man is probably like so close. It's closer to 577 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 4: being a white woman than it is to being a 578 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 4: black woman for a lot of people, because we can 579 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 4: experience a certain amount of privilege and a certain amount 580 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 4: of oppression, and we can kind of opt out of 581 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 4: certain problems when we want to. 582 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 3: And you know what I'm saying that is I've been 583 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 3: talking to people about this for years and and part 584 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 3: of the dynamic when people talk about the interracial relationships, 585 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 3: which interracial relationships exist across all boundaries, but the most 586 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: prominent prevalent one has always been in my observation. I 587 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 3: don't know about the statistics. I ain't gonna go there 588 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 3: and say I know for a fact when my observation 589 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 3: black male, white female. Now you have a group a 590 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 3: subset of those people. It's all about fetishizzing. You know. 591 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: It's like, hmm, I heard this about white girls. Hm, 592 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 3: I heard this about black men. The But a large 593 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 3: part of it is those people relate to each other 594 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 3: and that they have been in rooms for years with 595 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 3: mediocre white men who want them around to be an 596 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: audience for them, and they've been sitting there like this, 597 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 3: fum motherfucker. 598 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 8: I'm smarter than him, I'm better than him. 599 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 3: And there's a bitterness that they build up in a 600 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 3: disgust and an ability to hide that that they develop. 601 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: And when these white women and black men spot each other, 602 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 3: they bond in weird ways, sometimes where they both have 603 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 3: mutual contempt for the person who's been blocking their progress, 604 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 3: the white male, and they bond in ways that you 605 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 3: would expect black men and black women to bond. A 606 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 3: lot of black men bond with white women over that 607 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 3: black women's experience in America is so different from anyone 608 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 3: I can't begin to comprehend it. Like I've talked to 609 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 3: something about black female friends on said, I don't understand 610 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 3: as as an educated black man who is also six ' six, 611 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 3: very well built and strong, attractive, well spoken, all that bullshit, Right, 612 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 3: I'm okay in this society to an extent, and even 613 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 3: I on a daily basis, it takes me so much 614 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 3: to get through a day. So I don't know how 615 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 3: a black women gets through a day, let alone gets 616 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 3: to forty years old. 617 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: I would have fucking. 618 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 3: Gone crazy at fucking sixteen. So what black women deal 619 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 3: with is such a next level. And we when we 620 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 3: deny that, when we when we side with our gender 621 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 3: over race on certain issues that that affect black women, 622 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 3: it's really depressing the watch because nobody has has had 623 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 3: to bear more of a weight on their shoulders. 624 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: For black people than black women. 625 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 3: It's it's incredible, it's unfathomable really to wrap your mind 626 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 3: around it. So to contempt for black women among black 627 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: men really blows my fucking mind. 628 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the wildest for black men specifically, because like 629 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 4: with white women, you know, whenever they pull the thing 630 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 4: where we're all in it together, sisters, until like, you know, 631 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 4: something happened with a white woman. Then it's like, well, 632 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 4: you know, y'all need to stop being a PC mafia. 633 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 4: But with black men, it's specifically bad because black women 634 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 4: never really stop rooting for us. So it's like it's 635 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, where it's like damn. For 636 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 4: the most part, sisters will always kind of be like, well, 637 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 4: I still hope either a he gets it together or yeah, 638 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 4: he's fucked up. But you know, like it's always like 639 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 4: some type of bar lowering for many of us. And honestly, 640 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 4: until social media, men, I think a lot of men 641 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 4: in general just did not know how a lot of 642 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 4: women were thinking about it. You know, I think there's 643 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 4: a ton of people that still are being kind of 644 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 4: introduced to this idea that black women can find out 645 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 4: that Nate Parker possibly raped a white woman and be like, 646 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 4: I don't fuck with Nate Parker, and to them it's like, well, 647 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 4: what the fuck we gotta get together on race, right, 648 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 4: And you know, it's like it's that type of mentality 649 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 4: where to a certain extent, they're always gonna be betrayed, 650 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 4: you know, by certain groups unless we speak up and uh, 651 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,479 Speaker 4: you know, it's funny because you say something and it's like, 652 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 4: shut the fuck up. But to me, it's like you said, 653 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 4: hit dogs be hollering, So ain't I ain't shamed? And 654 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 4: it was one last thing I wanted to ask too. 655 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 4: Do you ever have trouble like getting your shit published? 656 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 6: Like? 657 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 4: Is it any topics that you like? What do you 658 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 4: do when you're a topic you want to broach but 659 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 4: you're like, ah, fuck, I don't know if I can 660 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 4: write this. 661 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 3: You know, of course I've had pieces scrapped. No, I'm 662 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 3: never gonna not broach your topic right, so that actually 663 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be able to live with myself. 664 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 2: I write about what what comes. 665 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 3: Into my mind, what seems right, And I don't think 666 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 3: I ever have any extreme views. Now, my views might 667 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 3: become extreme when. 668 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 2: Bounced off of a main society. 669 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: That refuses to see truth. You know, I'm not like yo, 670 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 3: being the black economics take over the country. We need this. 671 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 3: And you know, nothing I've ever written has been out 672 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 3: of step with logic or historical context. But when I wrote, 673 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 3: I've written pieces of the sports Sports Illustrated that they 674 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 3: requested and then when they saw it, they were like, 675 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 3: we don't know what to do with this, and it's 676 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 3: frustrated on a couple levels. One I'll give you an example. 677 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 3: I mean, being a black writer is frustrated in so 678 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 3: many ways that I could talk for way too long 679 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 3: about it on the level of fiction publishing and journalism. 680 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 3: But one example is the first time I wrote a 681 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 3: piece about race, about Stephen A. Smith and Ferguson and ESPN, 682 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 3: and the problem with ESPN always catering to, you know, 683 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 3: cliche views on black pathology is I wrote this piece 684 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 3: for the Cauldron, and they two white editors, they didn't 685 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 3: know what to do with it. They sat on it 686 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 3: for three days when it would have been more timely. 687 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 3: Then they sent it to Omani Jones, one of them 688 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 3: happened to kind of have a casual relationship with BO 689 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 3: sent it to him to look it over to ask 690 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 3: for approval. And I'm sitting there, as a black man 691 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 3: who can write his ass off and also used to 692 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 3: work in civil rights and grew up in a housing 693 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 3: project and has been in New York, North Carolina, Connecticut, 694 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 3: I understand a lot about the black experience historically in America. 695 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 3: I shouldn't have to wait for two white editors to 696 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 3: sit on a thing and send it to another black 697 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 3: man to verify that it's accurate. You know, that shouldn't happen. 698 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 3: That got published, and it was such a good story 699 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 3: for them and got so many hits and so much 700 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 3: praise that then they sent me an email saying they'd 701 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 3: never been more proud to publish a piece on this site, 702 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 3: except they didn't want to publish it initiatep so they 703 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 3: didn't have any I mean, and this is not an 704 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 3: insult to them. I have no problem with either one 705 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 3: of these people. I consider them to be strong acquaintances 706 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 3: and I enjoy communicating with him, and neither one of 707 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 3: them is a bad person. But when you don't know something, 708 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 3: you can't like if I didn't know, I don't know 709 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 3: about antiquity and ancient Greece. All right, somebody comes to 710 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 3: me like, yeah, I know about that shit, that's my ship, 711 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 3: and they write something on Julius Caesar. I'm not going 712 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 3: to be like, I don't know. If I want to 713 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 3: run this, I don't have anuthority to say that I 714 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 3: don't know, I have any basis and knowledge that they're 715 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 3: the expert. So I run it and so that's frustrating. 716 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 3: Now I wrote something else for them about Ronda Rousi, Right, 717 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 3: I wrote a piece and they gave it to Sports Illustrated. 718 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 3: Sports Illustrated didn't want to touch it, those two inflammatory, 719 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 3: so they ran it on their separate site. The thing 720 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 3: did one hundred thousand hits. Sports Illustrator missed out on 721 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 3: all that advertising because they were afraid it would offend 722 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 3: their core audience. So very normal things, things that I 723 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 3: think are common sense, for instance, and you know this, 724 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 3: in society, we think it's common sense that cops killing 725 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 3: black people's fucked up. And then you run that against 726 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 3: the mainstream opinion and it's like either it's like it's 727 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 3: not fucked up, we think it's just or it's like 728 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 3: we think it's kind of fucked up. We're gonna be 729 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 3: silent about it, right, and we don't want to talk 730 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 3: about her, to read about it. So what makes something 731 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 3: extreme tends to be whatever the social norm is at 732 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 3: the time. So in that in that vein, yeah, sure 733 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 3: I'm writing extreme things, but but I would never silence myself. 734 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I 735 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 3: wrote bland articles. 736 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 4: Yeah it was wild? Is that the people in the 737 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 4: decision making kind of decide who the tastemakers for a 738 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 4: lot of uh, you know, black shit and even women 739 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 4: shit and every everybody else's shit is you know. So 740 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 4: I remember, I think every black dude that is into 741 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 4: sports and on some level is pro black has heard 742 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 4: the words I was reading Whitlock or have you heard 743 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 4: of Jason Whitlock from a white person and went fuck 744 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 4: like because they get to because someone else got to 745 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 4: choose that person as the that's the opinion we will print. 746 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 4: That's the one we don't need to run by another 747 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 4: black person because it jizes with what we already kind 748 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 4: of believe and what we think our readers believe. So 749 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 4: you know, you can go straight to the front page 750 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 4: with some of that ship, you can get that radio show. 751 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 4: It's just, you know, a lot of times it's just 752 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 4: depressing because you know, the person who's picked to represent us, 753 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 4: you know, is not a person that represents us, you know. 754 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 4: Or you know, even when they first started the idea 755 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 4: of like black you know, the the undefeated, and I 756 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 4: remember when people were like, well with low skinny headed 757 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 4: I was like, then it's not gonna work, you know. 758 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 2: It wasn't. 759 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 3: It wasn't. 760 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 4: It was a long time ago, and it wasn't. And 761 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 4: like people like I was gonna work because ESPN, I said, 762 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 4: it won't fucking work because you can't dedicate a site 763 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 4: towards black people where he's involved. You can only dedicate 764 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 4: that site towards white people while under the guys are 765 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 4: pretending to be towards black people. It can't, it will 766 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 4: never work the way that you think is supposed to work. 767 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 4: And it didn't work. You know, I'm not I'm not 768 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 4: shocked at all. But but that's the thing. That's the 769 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 4: people who decided that, who made that decision are people 770 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 4: that typically don't have to worry about any level of 771 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 4: commitment to our community and his ideas already job with 772 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 4: what they think. So what you know, what's the what's the. 773 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 3: Vet, Yeah, they their own opinions. What the thing is 774 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 3: the capitalism itself in theory, capitalism and meritocracy and theory 775 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 3: makes sense, as far as the practice in America, they're 776 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 3: so distorted and extreme. And so the thing is, you 777 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 3: are still a society regardless of what economic system you follow, 778 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 3: and capitalism free market cannot come at the expense of 779 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 3: decency and of the health of a society. 780 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 8: So all of these people are thinking about money. 781 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 3: So my my peace on Roz not getting published. Piece 782 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 3: I wrote on Richard Sherman, which I kind of I 783 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 3: put back together and I published on their route and 784 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 3: got retweeted all over the place. They got plenty of 785 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 3: views on that. They would not run with that on 786 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 3: the cauldron. The Sports Illustrated needs to flatter the conceit 787 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 3: of its audience when the real job of a journalist, 788 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 3: regardless of money, is to challenge the audience, challenge the 789 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 3: audience and push it to different limits intellectually, give it 790 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 3: new perspectives. And ESPN is not trying to do that 791 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 3: when they hire someone like Jason Whitlock, or when they 792 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 3: have someone like Steven A. 793 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 2: Smith on the air. 794 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 3: Let's be honest if we're talking about people we interact 795 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 3: with in terms of Black people, how they vote. 796 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 2: How they think socially. When you see them at. 797 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 3: Family gatherings, we might have one out of fifty who 798 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 3: has the opinions of adjacent Whitlock or Stephen A. Smith 799 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 3: on most issues, and yet these are always the most 800 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 3: prominent speakers personalities on these networks, which means they're somehow 801 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 3: finding the absolute minority among black people, and they're putting 802 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 3: them out there as a spokesperson for black people. 803 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 4: Because you know why, that shit becomes synonymous with being 804 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 4: excellent in white people's eyes, Like they think, oh, this 805 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 4: is the exceptional negro. It's like no, they're literally the exception. 806 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 4: Like they're like not exceptional, but they are just the 807 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 4: person that is constantly on the outskirts and demonizing black culture. 808 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 4: Like that person will continue to get gigs. 809 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 2: You know. 810 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 4: That's why you can't really watch the news. 811 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 3: They're hustling white people knowing their ego. They don't like 812 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 3: white people either. They've just identified the stupidity of white 813 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 3: people in. 814 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 8: The vanity of them, and they're like, I get it. 815 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 3: Just say anything you want me to say, and you'll 816 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,240 Speaker 3: pay me two million dollars, got it, boss? 817 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 4: Right right? I hate them too. It's not it's not 818 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 4: your racism that's the problem. It's the niggas, right all right? 819 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 6: Uh? 820 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 4: Anyway, shout out to Candineate the official. That's my nigga. 821 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:06,399 Speaker 6: Man. 822 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 4: I feel so bad. But anyway, this is the black outels. 823 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 4: You can find some iTunes of stitch of this, you know, 824 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 4: leave US fire Star reviews. We'll read them on the 825 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,919 Speaker 4: Arizon as are nights. The Fisher weapon of the show 826 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 4: is an unofficial sport and bullet ball extreme. Let's get 827 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,399 Speaker 4: right into the news. Okay, guys, a lot of news 828 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 4: is going on and we need to cover it. 829 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 7: Uh. 830 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 4: Did you guys ever heard of the Men Going their 831 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 4: Own Way movement? M? Yeah, yes, Men going their Own Way. 832 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 4: It's a group of men who have never slept with 833 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 4: another woman after deciding that men are victims and relationships 834 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 4: and have their own lines. Their own online society mg 835 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 4: t o W or Men Going their Own Way is 836 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 4: an online movement that has attracted thousands of anti feminist 837 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 4: men who have decided that women are more trouble than 838 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 4: they are worth, and in fact, are holding men back 839 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 4: from reaching their potential. Scouring the community's ready thread, which 840 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 4: has over fifteen thousand subscribers the mgtow dot com web forms, 841 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 4: readers can find topics being discussed that include everything from 842 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 4: craziest women women You've ever dated to why women are 843 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 4: getting fatter? I Bundy did it better, but I appreciate it. Yeah, no, man, 844 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 4: I almost got a no ma'am shirt, but then I 845 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 4: was like I'm so old, I don't think motherfuckers can 846 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 4: get the reference and they'll just look like I'm a 847 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 4: hating ass old nigga. 848 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 5: Do they have a thread of why living my mama's basement? 849 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 3: So? 850 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, fairly. They also said the men just subscribing to 851 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 4: the ethos of the movement, believe they are fighting for 852 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 4: male sovereignty against women who would otherwise treat them like 853 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 4: a disposable utility. However, that description attracts those with a 854 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 4: lack of respect or even an object abject hatred of 855 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 4: women that not only pervades its forms, but even spilled 856 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 4: out spelled out in the history section of the website. There, 857 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 4: the writer argues incorrectly naming Time magazine is a source, 858 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 4: while leaking to an article reporting on the facts of 859 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 4: the British Medical Journal published study that because men have 860 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 4: been proven to take more idiotic risks than women, that 861 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 4: this is why they are successful and women in history 862 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,479 Speaker 4: are not, of course, and he even relabels the web 863 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:43,399 Speaker 4: paid the web the wage gap as the accomplishment gap. Yeah, 864 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,280 Speaker 4: y'all just ain't accomplished enough. Latest step your game up, women's. 865 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 4: He complains that men are no longer revered or respected 866 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 4: on the most basic level for their contributions and past sacrifices, 867 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 4: and should therefore avoid relationships with women entirely. 868 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 5: That's not true. 869 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 6: Out of the manga trolls fucking the women every day 870 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,720 Speaker 6: out there, all them, thousands of people. 871 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 5: M nah, they just hate women even though they fucking them. 872 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 4: Despite the movements champion championing of bravery is masculinity. It 873 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 4: highs the identity of its founder or founders by claiming 874 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 4: his history is too convoluted and goes back too far 875 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,240 Speaker 4: the document and even compares its rise to the discovery 876 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 4: of fire, adding that perhaps feminism is gasoline. 877 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 5: No, you don't want to do with the backlash, so 878 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 5: that's why. 879 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 4: Well they think feminism in French is on the rights 880 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 4: of men and users on the forum rage against career women, 881 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 4: but also few bilious pros about women. They proceed to 882 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,879 Speaker 4: be gold diggers. Men brag about dumping women who prove 883 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,720 Speaker 4: themselves to be feminazis, but also about fooling their past 884 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 4: sexual conquest. Some of the topics both such titles as 885 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 4: the state exist only to transfer your money to women 886 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 4: and I'm sorry all. 887 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 5: The time, something about old child support. 888 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 4: Uh oh, this one's in quotes right the quote unquote 889 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 4: domestic abuse machine as an apparatus for men's enslavement. 890 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 5: Women out there. We've been asked apparently statistics on that. 891 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. You know how y'all get us caught up in 892 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 4: the system by making us abuse y'all. I always had 893 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 4: to warn against that man. Don't provoke, Yeah, I tell 894 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 4: I tell my sister all the time. Skip, don't provoke 895 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 4: that man. You don't want to make daddy angry. Uh. Yeah. 896 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 4: At any rate, this is beyond the fat shame and 897 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 4: slush shaming and even the age shaming that is right 898 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 4: throughout the site. It's users also seen align themselves firmly 899 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 4: with the so called outright. The website even has instructions 900 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,439 Speaker 4: on how members can reach certain levels, borrowing one plot 901 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 4: device from the movie The Matrix to describe themselves as 902 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 4: red pill men who have expunged a period of unenlightened, 903 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 4: unenlightened blue pill existence from their lives. You know what's 904 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:07,280 Speaker 4: wild is like they basically are like, I'm so awake 905 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 4: and woke to this world that I recognize we had 906 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 4: it right in the seventeen hundreds. Like, so I have 907 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 4: progressed to the final stage, which is taking it back 908 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 4: to caveman shit and all that. 909 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 2: Concept. 910 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I just want to I just want to 911 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 4: know how to fuck. You get so anti woman, you like, 912 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 4: I can't. I won't even fuck one dog that like 913 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 4: real talking. I'm so manly with my manism. 914 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 6: Dog. 915 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 4: Hey, only thing touched this dick is me. You know 916 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. You know, I fucking other man for 917 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 4: I touch a woman. You know what I'm saying. Bro, 918 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 4: we that straight, We're so straight, We're super straight. 919 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,359 Speaker 3: I got a cousin who's talking that pymbology like that, 920 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 3: and he was telling me because I was excited that 921 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 3: I had a new girlfriend. 922 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 2: He was like, man, you sound like a square. I 923 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 2: was like why. 924 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 3: It's like, man, I don't even fuck these holes because 925 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 3: this dick is valuable. You know how much protein is 926 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 3: in one little loaded seamen. So a woman got to 927 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,359 Speaker 3: take me out to dinner just to compensate, but I'm 928 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 3: gonna waste. I was looking at this motherfucker like this. 929 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 2: Man is out of his damn mond. 930 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 3: You know here hearing you read that whole description. Just 931 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 3: it costs a dinner, It costs eighteen grands of protein. 932 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 4: Now hold up, now, guys, hold up, now, I do 933 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 4: believe in this, Okay, I think, man, men haven't given 934 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 4: away the dick. It's how this dick stock market is 935 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 4: at an all time load. It is because we're just 936 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 4: giving it away like napkin straws and paper towels. Come on, Like, yeah, 937 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 4: I feel like we need to step our games up 938 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:56,439 Speaker 4: and value your dick. 939 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 6: Now. 940 00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,080 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that you should not you know, have 941 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 4: have sex. I think that's beyond ludicrous, but just you know, 942 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,359 Speaker 4: you should make her work for it. Man, think about 943 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,800 Speaker 4: how many times you just offered dick for no reason. Uh, 944 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,280 Speaker 4: you don't value yourselves. 945 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 2: You know. 946 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 4: That's why I say, Man, Look, no matrimony, no mattress, 947 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 4: no money, okay, no wedding, no bedding, Okay, you. 948 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 2: Gotta have a job. 949 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, no rain, no dinger ling is what we say. 950 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 4: We just want to up the value of the man. 951 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 4: My book wouldn't make no money, Like you can only 952 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 4: make this kind of money talking to women like this. 953 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 4: Niggas would not about there were my book. I asked 954 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,280 Speaker 4: someone dust on it at the at the book signing, 955 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 4: it would just be you know who would be at 956 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,839 Speaker 4: my book signing? Women buying books to give the men. 957 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 4: You'd be the number one value yourself, tyrone. 958 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,280 Speaker 2: I had. I had a buddy of white friend. 959 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,919 Speaker 3: His girlfriend was going on and on about how great 960 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,040 Speaker 3: this movie was. You remember that movie about Why I 961 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 3: Ain't called Sideways? 962 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,760 Speaker 4: Yes, oh my god. 963 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 3: So she kept going on about that, and then he 964 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 3: had been quiet the whole time. He looked up from 965 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 3: his meal and he said, they could have just called 966 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:16,360 Speaker 3: that movie honestly to losers, And the whole time you 967 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 3: were reading this description of this group and ship, they 968 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 3: could just call this group a. 969 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 2: Bunch of losers. I don't even need to acronym nog. 970 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 4: That movie was terrible. I watched it after, like on 971 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,959 Speaker 4: DVD or whatever, AFTERY got all that praise and shit. 972 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 4: So I was like, oh shit, I'll just read this 973 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,479 Speaker 4: from Netflix and watch it. This back when Netflix didn't 974 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 4: really half streaming. And I was like, yeah, I'll just 975 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 4: watch this ship because everybody say it's great. 976 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:39,879 Speaker 3: Bro. 977 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 4: I was like halfway through the movie, like, what when 978 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 4: is the shit gonna get good? Like, ain't it supposed 979 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 4: to be funny or something? White people? 980 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 3: Man, that's that's wet. I call that the movies we 981 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 3: w e t is. It's just like b et. But 982 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 3: white people don't recognize what with w E T is 983 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,760 Speaker 3: because they're so used to this shit being the norm. 984 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 3: But that two losers rolling around drinking wine no different 985 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,919 Speaker 3: from some coon ass movie with somebody like drinking malt 986 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 3: liquor and eating watermelons. Yeah, it's the same. 987 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 2: It's the white equivalent. 988 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 3: Bro, Nobody wants to see that shit except a loser 989 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:14,399 Speaker 3: white person. 990 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 2: Get out of here with this. 991 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, white people be super serving whiteness, and then that 992 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 4: shit get awards. But it'd be something like it's. 993 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 5: So abstract, it's so different. You're like, motherfucker, this is 994 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 5: a bullshit. 995 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I get I feel upset with the Oscars 996 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 4: for the fact that I know it's power broker y. 997 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 4: So I want black people and people, you know, LGBTQ people. 998 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 4: I want everybody to get a chance to win. So 999 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,720 Speaker 4: that's the only But as far as like their taste, nah, 1000 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 4: Like I hate Oscar, Like most Oscar bake movies I 1001 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 4: walk out of like that shit wasn't even good. Like, 1002 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 4: at no point did you approach a good movie. It's 1003 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 4: just really, really really white. There's no black people in it, 1004 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,799 Speaker 4: and the story is telling is extremely white or extremely 1005 00:50:59,280 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 4: white survey? 1006 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 5: You know, yeah, if Roger laughs at me, but I 1007 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 5: and maybe this is just me. I'm not even gonna lie. 1008 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 5: I have my cap on my whiteness. 1009 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 3: Did. 1010 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 6: I kind of lit in my life when it comes 1011 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 6: to TV shows and I watch a. 1012 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 5: Lot of different stuff and stuff with white people in it. 1013 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 5: But it's some ship I watch and Roger will laugh 1014 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,919 Speaker 5: at me. He'd be like, this is the best ship ever. 1015 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 5: I was like, that's white people shit. Fuck it. I 1016 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,959 Speaker 5: got enough white people shit in my life. 1017 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, she'll walk out the room or something. 1018 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 2: Saturation point. 1019 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 3: We've been watching our whole lives. After a while, you 1020 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 3: do your cigarette. 1021 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, cana walk out on something good. 1022 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 2: I support it, even if it's good. 1023 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 3: I supported. 1024 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 4: I am mad. 1025 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 5: I ain't never. 1026 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 4: I ain't never tried to get it back in there. 1027 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 4: I'd be like, so you're not watching bad? 1028 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 3: All right? 1029 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 4: Cool, all right, I'm gonna go ahead and finish this. 1030 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 4: Ain't ain't nothing personally. 1031 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 5: And I don't know, it just recently started. I don't 1032 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 5: know why. I don't know what came over me. 1033 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,400 Speaker 6: But I got to the point where I was like, 1034 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 6: you know what, especially with all the stuff on social 1035 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:51,399 Speaker 6: media stuff he sells. 1036 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 5: I've had enough like like me, like this is this 1037 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 5: was my wall kind of. 1038 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,399 Speaker 6: I know it might sound sitting, but it's my own 1039 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 6: internal protests while I'm like, you know what, ain't. 1040 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 5: No call this, I'm out. 1041 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, people just get so pushy about TV shows and shit. 1042 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 4: But yeah, I've had plenty of shows I don't like. 1043 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 4: I don't watch no shows about white people selling drugs 1044 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 4: some more because yeah, like I didn't watch Breaking Bad 1045 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 4: until it was not just the last season, but I 1046 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 4: think they broke it up into two parts. I started 1047 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 4: watching after the during the break of the last season, 1048 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 4: so and I caught up by the time the last 1049 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 4: episode aired. That was the only show I've ever watched 1050 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,359 Speaker 4: live of them. But the reason I put off five 1051 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 4: years of this fucking show is because I was like, 1052 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 4: it's about a white dude selling drugs, right, and everybody's like, yeah, 1053 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 4: but it's so good man, you you really have to 1054 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 4: see it, man, I mean, this guy's a tourter force 1055 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 4: when it comes to acting. I'm like, dog, why is 1056 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 4: it always so fucking interesting when white people sell drugs, 1057 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 4: but when niggas sell drugs, it's just eleven o'clock news, 1058 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 4: like it's nobody give a fuck when niggas selling. Nobody 1059 00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,720 Speaker 4: cared about that. The only time they cared about niggas 1060 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 4: selling drugs on TV was The Wire and by David Simon, 1061 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 4: you know my nigga as he would say, but about that, 1062 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 4: by the way, right, And they didn't even watch da 1063 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 4: nothing nothing. It's so it's just so funny. Dog Like. 1064 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,279 Speaker 4: I tried watching Weed's man, I've never been angry at 1065 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:20,839 Speaker 4: the show man. 1066 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 2: He was like, it's trash. 1067 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 3: I lasted like three episodes and people like they had 1068 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:30,240 Speaker 3: selling drugs niggah and people ride. 1069 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 4: Man, it's so good, you gotta check it out. I'm like, 1070 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 4: wait a minute, it's just the show. 1071 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 3: Though. 1072 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 4: She gonna be selling weed, that's the show, yeah, man, 1073 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:38,919 Speaker 4: but it's like so much more than that. So good, 1074 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 4: nah man, I'm out. It's not cute to me. I 1075 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 4: can't watch the show without thinking, like these niggas would 1076 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 4: go to jail and they was d. 1077 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 2: Collective delusion. 1078 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,239 Speaker 3: It's just playing a delusion that all the best thing 1079 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 3: that white people have gone for them when they make 1080 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 3: TV shows is they mind the depth of their angst. 1081 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 2: Not even they're doing. 1082 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,800 Speaker 3: Like products of their success, like our marriage is failing, 1083 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,879 Speaker 3: our son is he got kicked out of private school. Yes, 1084 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 3: I'm a failing suburban mom and I decided to sell 1085 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 3: drugs because I'm bored, you know. I mean, get the 1086 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 3: fuck out of a chemistry teacher who sells meth and 1087 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 3: put him out watching Magdha. This nigga blew up? Do 1088 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,800 Speaker 3: you tell me chemistry teacher went to a drug bring leader, 1089 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 3: a Mexican drug cartel nigga, and had a bomb in 1090 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,959 Speaker 3: his pocket that he cooked up in his school lab 1091 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 3: and blew up his whole ship. I was done with 1092 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,319 Speaker 3: the show right there. I said, this is the Three 1093 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 3: Stooges right here. 1094 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 4: It's a comedy a dog this a the best part 1095 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 4: of that. Oh you know why I can. You know, 1096 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,399 Speaker 4: you just reminded me why I can watch Breaking Bad, 1097 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 4: because it's okay for me to think he's a fuck 1098 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,359 Speaker 4: nigga for the whole time. That was why I got 1099 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 4: through it. I was like, I live tweeted it and 1100 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 4: people were waiting for me to come around. I was like, 1101 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 4: I don't like this dude. Like it was all Hubors 1102 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 4: Doug motherfucker had cancer but had rich people trying to 1103 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,799 Speaker 4: give him money. I need to help curious cancer dog. 1104 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,920 Speaker 4: He had rich people that sold the company and felt 1105 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 4: so bad they wanted to give him money so he 1106 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 4: could be rich too. And the nigga was like, nah, 1107 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 4: I'm gonna sell these drugs. It was so like that 1108 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 4: was enough for me to hate him for the whole show, 1109 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,720 Speaker 4: you know, with everything else he was doing line about 1110 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 4: selling drugs. I was rooting for the people that was 1111 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:22,239 Speaker 4: against him. 1112 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 2: It was good. 1113 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 4: Ah yeah, Now I remember I had to flash back 1114 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 4: to while I watched that show because I was like, 1115 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 4: I don't even like shows like that, But now that 1116 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 4: I think about, I was rooting for Hank. I was 1117 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,839 Speaker 4: rooting for his wife that don't like him. I fuck 1118 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,480 Speaker 4: with his son when he cuts his ass out. It 1119 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,719 Speaker 4: made him take that car back, Like yeah, I like 1120 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 4: everybody except him, and I think for me for a 1121 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 4: lot of these shows because I'm black, I like the 1122 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:45,839 Speaker 4: black people in him. 1123 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 5: I don't want to be real people like I haven't. 1124 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 6: Seen what was the Sons of narc Anarchy anarchy, but 1125 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,879 Speaker 6: just just doing clips of that, I was like, ain't 1126 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 6: no niggas look like that. 1127 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 5: They don't act like that, y'all. Y'all bought these straight 1128 00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 5: out straight out of acting school. 1129 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 3: That was a bad period, but that was not a 1130 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:02,680 Speaker 3: bad show. 1131 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 2: That was a transcendently. 1132 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 4: That show was so bad nigga the first time niggas 1133 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 4: showed up and they was all they all looked like 1134 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 4: they went and cast those negroes from like some Broadway production. 1135 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 4: They got the highest ranking, which which wouldn't have been 1136 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,360 Speaker 4: that offensive if not for the fact that every white 1137 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 4: biker at Extra looks like a motherfucking real Hall's angel, 1138 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 4: Like you know what I mean, Like they took so 1139 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 4: much time to make these white dudes meticulously grungy. Uh, 1140 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 4: and then these white these black dudes come in and 1141 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 4: motherfucking like polos and backpacks and rights right, and then 1142 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,880 Speaker 4: they supposed to be these like feared gangsters, but the 1143 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,319 Speaker 4: white dudes always come in and like, what are you 1144 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 4: niggers want? And the black dudes are like, you know what, 1145 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 4: Jacks youd be tripping, but let's make a deal. I'm like, 1146 00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,319 Speaker 4: nobody would talk like that, bro. 1147 00:56:59,080 --> 00:56:59,760 Speaker 2: These dudes. 1148 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 3: I had like fourteen people from the crew. They took 1149 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,719 Speaker 3: on every nigga gang, Mexican gang, they took on the 1150 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 3: ir Raid, the FGI They were shooting. There was one 1151 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,399 Speaker 3: scene where it was against Mexicans with machine guns. They 1152 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 3: dodged the machine guns and pulled out the old school 1153 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 3: six shooter and killed them. I was like this these 1154 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 3: motherfu and then popped off onto the motorcycle like it 1155 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 3: was nothing. 1156 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 4: They thought to yakuza. The fucker do Yakuza be doing 1157 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 4: in that little pot dunk ass town? The yakuza worked 1158 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,600 Speaker 4: at the Chinese restaurant. It was just so ridiculous, man, 1159 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 4: it was like a comedy disguised as an action show. 1160 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 3: Bron White people lost their mind so much in delusion 1161 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 3: on that show that they've sent them against other white people. 1162 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 3: Let fourteen random white people go to Ireland and talk 1163 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,440 Speaker 3: with the IRR and come out alive. 1164 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 2: Please dog. 1165 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 4: Oh shit, man? Yeah, I know people mad we talking 1166 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 4: about their favorite shows, But yuys, these shows are silly. 1167 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,640 Speaker 3: Uh brought aline of because how come that Nigga was 1168 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:06,440 Speaker 3: reading from his father's diary for eight seasons, bro, Like 1169 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 3: three sentences at a time, the fuck's wrong with you? 1170 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 3: And who the fuck? 1171 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 4: Who the fuck writes that much stuff that would be 1172 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 4: relevant later? 1173 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 3: You know. 1174 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 4: It's like when he would be going through a hard 1175 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 4: time with his mom, his dad would be like, you know, 1176 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 4: that's the thing about his mom is she always was 1177 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,000 Speaker 4: really hard to get along with, but you got a 1178 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:34,880 Speaker 4: love anyway, and like riding through this world, right, I 1179 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 4: definitely wouldn't kill my wife, Jimma if I was you today, 1180 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,040 Speaker 4: because that would that would suck up the whole show. Damn. 1181 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 4: Dad was right, all right, let's see what else that sight? 1182 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:48,960 Speaker 3: Oh? 1183 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:50,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, obviously that sight was whack? 1184 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 3: Was white? 1185 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:51,440 Speaker 6: Oh? 1186 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 4: Did y'all watch the debate last night? I did. 1187 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 3: I followed the live tweets because I can't watch Donald 1188 00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:57,959 Speaker 3: Trump love. 1189 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's uh. He did exactly what I thought he 1190 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 4: would do. You know, he came through, made everything up. 1191 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 4: It's like a comedian freestyl and basically a lot of 1192 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:13,440 Speaker 4: is shit like that, a lot of cutting her off 1193 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,200 Speaker 4: every time she started talking, Which is something I've noticed 1194 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 4: with almost all Republican candidates is that they bully their opponents, 1195 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 4: which is funny because at the Obama you would think 1196 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,800 Speaker 4: people would realize that rope a dope style and a 1197 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 4: debate is what wins debates now, like not not being 1198 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 4: the one who attacks, for being the one who's graceful 1199 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,320 Speaker 4: while being attacked seems to be the thing that America 1200 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 4: gravitates towards. It's like, oh, because you know, it was 1201 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 4: many a time where I know niggas are sitting on 1202 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 4: their couch rooting for Obama to waldcross stage and slap 1203 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 4: a white person. But he would just be so like 1204 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 4: graceful under fire, where he's like, okay, well, I guess 1205 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 4: that's what you believe now, mit, And you're like, oh, 1206 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 4: you got him with the with the little the little 1207 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,040 Speaker 4: jab right there without having to come out of pocket. 1208 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:03,280 Speaker 4: But that's what Hillary seemed to have learned from, you know, 1209 01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,160 Speaker 4: her time dealing with Obama, because she used to be 1210 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,480 Speaker 4: like that. I remember when they had debates and she 1211 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 4: was the one in no way cutting him off and 1212 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,480 Speaker 4: Ship and he had to be the one that was 1213 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 4: that was cool, you know, the one that hit her 1214 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 4: with the I like her enough and ship like that. 1215 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 6: Hit her and Hilary hit her with the shim is. 1216 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 6: She she had got her liquids up, she honted, she 1217 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 6: hates coughing, coughing, She didn't take a sip of water, 1218 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,160 Speaker 6: she had done her yoga, and she was ready to stand. 1219 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,120 Speaker 4: I swear she got them black women in her ear 1220 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 4: at all, because it's the only thing that makes sense 1221 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 4: for some of these comebacks. I'm like, a white person 1222 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 4: would have thought of it that way. 1223 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 6: You know, it wouldn't surprise me if they if they 1224 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:40,720 Speaker 6: did like test. 1225 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 4: Runs with her, like well, obviously they do debate prep, 1226 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 4: but I mean, I take it beyond debate prep. I'm saying, 1227 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 4: like some of these lines, and she's like, you know, 1228 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,600 Speaker 4: he does live in his own reality where you just 1229 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 4: like white people don't even like, I don't think you 1230 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,480 Speaker 4: would say that unless his sister, like y'all tested that 1231 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 4: line because she is you know, she's so she over prepares, 1232 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,960 Speaker 4: so nigga. You know, she hit her. You know, she 1233 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 4: hit him with the chapter eleven. She's hit him with 1234 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 4: it on Twitter before, and I was like, what sister 1235 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 4: got paid to write that, you know what I mean, 1236 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 4: her even her tweeks man, cause it'd be like, delete 1237 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:18,040 Speaker 4: your account. That's nigga shit. Like she didn't say that. 1238 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,640 Speaker 4: There's no way she said that. So, yeah, she hit 1239 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 4: him with a bunch of ships. She was winning. 1240 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 3: It wasn't really what was was it a black person 1241 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,480 Speaker 3: who took over your man? Howard Dean Bruh. 1242 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:32,400 Speaker 4: Howard Dan said he thinks Donald was on that cocaine 1243 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 4: shit snorting that white girl, and uh, they asked him 1244 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 4: to take it back. He was like, nah, they need 1245 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:43,360 Speaker 4: to test him too. He on something that added all 1246 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 4: or something. Trump was sniffing, though he was sniffing hard 1247 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,560 Speaker 4: last night. It's like between every like because his thing 1248 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 4: he kept doing was like anytime somebody got ready to 1249 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,880 Speaker 4: say something, he kept being like wrong, wrong, like over 1250 01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:00,680 Speaker 4: and over. But it was like wrong, you got a 1251 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:04,400 Speaker 4: cold or something, bron wrong. I'm like, yo, you need 1252 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,800 Speaker 4: to you need to take a break. And uh, you know. 1253 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,560 Speaker 4: They did this thing for like an hour and some change, 1254 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 4: and nobody took a break to even take a pissy anything. 1255 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 4: It was like two old people standing around that long. 1256 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 4: I mean it's a miracle, really, Like I would have 1257 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 4: needed to take a piss at some point, but uh, 1258 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 4: or take a break to sit down for a second. 1259 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 4: They stood the whole time. My man less the whole 1260 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:31,680 Speaker 4: asked them about race, of course, and this is when 1261 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:36,440 Speaker 4: everybody started really paying attention on my timeline, and I 1262 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:40,920 Speaker 4: think he had Trump go first, and he just illustrated, 1263 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:45,320 Speaker 4: why the fuck you can't call these candidates both the 1264 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,280 Speaker 4: same on race and ship like that. 1265 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:47,560 Speaker 2: I know. 1266 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,440 Speaker 4: It's like the woke thing to say, the catchy thing 1267 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,760 Speaker 4: to say, yeah, like I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win 1268 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 4: the woke Olympics by saying they don't genuinely care about 1269 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,080 Speaker 4: black people, like, well, nobody expected them to genuinely care. 1270 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 4: Only them actually genuinely care about anything as president. That's 1271 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 4: really not part of the job description. I don't genuinely 1272 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 4: care when I go to my nine to five type job, 1273 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 4: like you get those taxes done yet? I mean, yeah, 1274 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,000 Speaker 4: but I'm not gonna cry over you know what the 1275 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 4: fuck the bank the balance sheet look like right anyway? 1276 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 4: So they ask him first, and this motherfucker said, first 1277 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,040 Speaker 4: of all, black people are living in hell, can't walk 1278 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,480 Speaker 4: down the street without getting shot, which is his new 1279 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 4: way of using a very patriarchal way of getting to 1280 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,560 Speaker 4: black and black crime. So it's like these poor black 1281 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,520 Speaker 4: people that can stop killing each other. And that's why 1282 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:47,040 Speaker 4: I want to bring back national stop and frisk. I 1283 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:51,440 Speaker 4: don't think you guys understand national stop and frisk. He 1284 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:56,640 Speaker 4: wants to spread stopping frisk. Nationally stopping frisk is It 1285 01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:01,680 Speaker 4: was ruled unconstitutional, sir when Lester who corrected him and said, yep, 1286 01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,000 Speaker 4: that's an unconstitutional practice. It was rude, unconstitutional. 1287 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 5: He said wrong that the facts don't matter. 1288 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,480 Speaker 6: Fact, I don't goddamn matter. Facts don't matter at all. 1289 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,760 Speaker 6: And there was some ignorant ass folks sitting at homegoing Donald, 1290 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:20,720 Speaker 6: you right, And that was insane about the whole situation. 1291 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 4: That's what's so good about Hillary is she was like 1292 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 4: smiling the whole time because she really could not have 1293 01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,560 Speaker 4: had a better opponent, Like if she can't beat him, 1294 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 4: then she was never gonna be president for anybody, because uh, 1295 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,480 Speaker 4: like he's so all you have to do is shut 1296 01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,960 Speaker 4: up and just let him keep talking, because you can 1297 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 4: just sit there and be like, damn, this dude is 1298 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 4: a fool without saying anything because the whole time people 1299 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 4: are just like, I can't believe he's saying this. And 1300 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,680 Speaker 4: sure there's people in the country that agree with him, 1301 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 4: but anyone who's either objective or whatever, like, you're not 1302 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 4: convincing anyone to vote for you, and what you are 1303 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 4: convincing a lot of people that you're a huge danger 1304 01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 4: to the nation. So yeah, it was it was interesting, man, 1305 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,960 Speaker 4: And of course Hillary won the debate, but that's really 1306 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,880 Speaker 4: not saying I don't think anyone thought she would lose, 1307 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,959 Speaker 4: and they just thought people would have lower expectations for Trump. 1308 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 6: And his whole thing was I'm gonna wing it like 1309 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:15,880 Speaker 6: that was his whole thing. 1310 01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,479 Speaker 5: Come out unprepared dog. 1311 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,760 Speaker 4: He bragged about not paying taxes. First, he said he. 1312 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,360 Speaker 2: But he actually didn't say that. 1313 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,120 Speaker 3: If you oh, okay, if you listen to him post debate. 1314 01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, after debate, and you didn't at the debate, everybody 1315 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,400 Speaker 4: got it wrong and all your stupid scientific poles are 1316 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,640 Speaker 4: stupid and with Mike stud up too loud. Yeah, it's Mike. 1317 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,000 Speaker 4: The only reason he lost because the Michaels messed up guys. 1318 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,960 Speaker 4: But yeah, he They asked him about his taxes at first. 1319 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 4: They were like, when you're gonna release your taxes, and 1320 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 4: he had three different answers, which was like, I'll release 1321 01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,840 Speaker 4: them after I get done being audited. I've been audited 1322 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:53,520 Speaker 4: fifteen years in a row red flag. But he's like, 1323 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,800 Speaker 4: I'm not mad about anything. I released him out when 1324 01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,360 Speaker 4: it's done being audited. Then he was like, I'll release 1325 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,840 Speaker 4: them in the same in the answered by the way, 1326 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 4: not later. He's like, well, I'll release them when she 1327 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 4: releases her emails. What about those thirty three thousand emails 1328 01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:10,400 Speaker 4: they went missing? When you're gonna release those? And did 1329 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,920 Speaker 4: I forget? What the third other time ark that he 1330 01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,440 Speaker 4: was like, I'll release them, then I'll release them. After this, 1331 01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,040 Speaker 4: it was just like a whole It was like three 1332 01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:21,880 Speaker 4: different reasons to not give up his his his RS 1333 01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,439 Speaker 4: tax stuff. And then later Hillary went, well, he won't 1334 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,680 Speaker 4: tell you because he ain't paid taxes. The tax she's 1335 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,240 Speaker 4: like the tax returns that we have seen from however 1336 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 4: many years ago, they both show he owed zero and 1337 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 4: taxes after he just on stage today bragged about having 1338 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,240 Speaker 4: over six hundred and eighty five eighty five million dollars 1339 01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 4: in income this year, and he went, that's because I'm smart. 1340 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 4: And then she nailed them with, well, that's zero money 1341 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:53,479 Speaker 4: for troops, zero money for the police, like zero money 1342 01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:57,400 Speaker 4: for all the organizations you say that you support, like 1343 01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 4: all the shit, and you're bragging about it. You're happy 1344 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,200 Speaker 4: to not pay somebody and you think that's what's gonna 1345 01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 4: work for America. So uh, at any rate, man, I 1346 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,600 Speaker 4: enjoyed it. The banks just it was I wasn't even 1347 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 4: gonna watch it at first, but it was it was 1348 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,320 Speaker 4: such good buffoonery, and uh, black twitter just makes it great. 1349 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:21,240 Speaker 6: Uh yes, black Twitter for the win, especially black photoshop Twitter. 1350 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. They they just they did their thing. Man, you 1351 01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:24,840 Speaker 4: can't even get mad. 1352 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,160 Speaker 3: Now you're gonna talk about black Twitter. I gotta go 1353 01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,040 Speaker 3: at a certain point to hit the talk. But I 1354 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,479 Speaker 3: do want to be on with y'all because I got 1355 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,080 Speaker 3: to hear what y'all say about that commercial. 1356 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:39,160 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we gotta talk about Mary J. Blige. 1357 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:42,680 Speaker 3: You talk about black twitter many Yeah. 1358 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,320 Speaker 4: I was just about to play it. I don't know 1359 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:46,640 Speaker 4: if you're gonna be able to hear it because you 1360 01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,200 Speaker 4: said you couldn't hear the audio earlier. But I will 1361 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:50,320 Speaker 4: play it real quick. 1362 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,360 Speaker 2: I already have it committed to memory, so I'm good. 1363 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:59,040 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, you ain't seeing it, Okay, hold on, now, 1364 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,200 Speaker 4: I gotta put it on screen. Okay, give me one 1365 01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:02,280 Speaker 4: second here, Karen, I. 1366 01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,880 Speaker 5: Seen like the pictures, but I hadn't seen nothing. 1367 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,600 Speaker 4: We're gonna get you caught up to speed real quick. 1368 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 3: You remember when they did the spoof for her Burger 1369 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:16,240 Speaker 3: commercial nigga, Yes, somehow she surpassed a spoof of herself hit. 1370 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,920 Speaker 4: All right, So I'm gonna play it and tryll. I 1371 01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,680 Speaker 4: will let you know when it's done playing, because I 1372 01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,599 Speaker 4: don't think you're gonna be able to hear the audio. 1373 01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:27,000 Speaker 4: So it's only like I don't know thirty seconds to 1374 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,599 Speaker 4: a minute. So I'll play it first, and then when 1375 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:31,800 Speaker 4: it's done, i'll let you know. 1376 01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,240 Speaker 5: If an officer stops, you. 1377 01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:43,439 Speaker 3: Always be polied, can never run away. 1378 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:44,479 Speaker 5: Promised mama. 1379 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,960 Speaker 4: Or you'll keep your hands aside. 1380 01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:50,000 Speaker 7: Is it a gun? 1381 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:55,320 Speaker 4: Is it a knife? Is it a vomit? This is 1382 01:08:55,320 --> 01:09:02,160 Speaker 4: your life. It ain't no secret. It ain't no secret, 1383 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:08,360 Speaker 4: no secret, my friend you can get He'll just living again. 1384 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,560 Speaker 4: You're American scan. 1385 01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:29,960 Speaker 9: All right, Well you're not gonna cry, You not gonna 1386 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:34,719 Speaker 9: You're not gonna shat no peace merrit. 1387 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:39,000 Speaker 4: Uh Yeah, I too was a lover and secretary. Yes 1388 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:40,840 Speaker 4: all right? 1389 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:41,479 Speaker 2: You still that? 1390 01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,240 Speaker 4: Okay? Cool? Yeah? 1391 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,320 Speaker 5: That was that was a good coding. 1392 01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 3: I like that was looking at her like, who the 1393 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:53,400 Speaker 3: fuck am I gonna fire? 1394 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:54,000 Speaker 6: For? 1395 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:55,280 Speaker 2: Agree into this ship? 1396 01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,400 Speaker 4: She grabs her hand dog that's my favorite father. When 1397 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,960 Speaker 4: she leaves for at grabb Hillary's hand, Hillary's just looking like, 1398 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:04,880 Speaker 4: what am I supposed to do it? She's touching me, 1399 01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:10,080 Speaker 4: She's touching me uh security, I kind. 1400 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:10,840 Speaker 2: Of what it was looking like. 1401 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:12,400 Speaker 3: She was like, this bitch ain't. 1402 01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:12,840 Speaker 2: Got no rain. 1403 01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,679 Speaker 4: We have too much violence up in this dancer ree 1404 01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,680 Speaker 4: and we're gonna need some help. Hillary, We need some 1405 01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:24,880 Speaker 4: I was talking to k C. 1406 01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,960 Speaker 9: The other day and Uh, all you really want is 1407 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,320 Speaker 9: to be happy the girl, don't. 1408 01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,680 Speaker 4: You what's the full one one on us getting some 1409 01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:33,000 Speaker 4: some police oversight? 1410 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:33,720 Speaker 6: Uh? 1411 01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:43,719 Speaker 4: Oh man, Yeah, it's something with Chrispy Chicken. I thought 1412 01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,679 Speaker 4: she damn I thought she couldn't hop Crispy Chicken. 1413 01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:47,760 Speaker 5: Apparently she can. 1414 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,000 Speaker 4: She sang to the future president of the United States 1415 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,639 Speaker 4: about some black people dying. Oh my god, I'm here 1416 01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,599 Speaker 4: for Yeah. I think they released a whole song. Now, 1417 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,679 Speaker 4: it's like a whole thing. They got like a single 1418 01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:03,919 Speaker 4: attached to everything. 1419 01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:04,360 Speaker 6: Yes. 1420 01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,600 Speaker 3: Yo, this was worse than when wy Cleff went on 1421 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,240 Speaker 3: Chappelle's show with that terrible Polish president song. 1422 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,360 Speaker 4: Oh man, I remember that man. 1423 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,120 Speaker 3: On Thusday. 1424 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:24,680 Speaker 1: Wednesday chicking by Thursday. 1425 01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:32,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, man, they was gonna get somebody to say it. 1426 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,320 Speaker 4: I guess you know, it could have been worse. You know, 1427 01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,920 Speaker 4: could add like L L k J do a rap 1428 01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:42,280 Speaker 4: for I hope you understand. 1429 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,000 Speaker 6: She had to put a divide up because he'd even 1430 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,120 Speaker 6: look at his lips so hard been flying on him. 1431 01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, he would have tried to He would have tried 1432 01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,080 Speaker 4: to listen to President Dog. 1433 01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:54,320 Speaker 5: He would have did it. 1434 01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:56,920 Speaker 2: Him grabbing her hand would have been a very different thing. 1435 01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:06,479 Speaker 5: I don't, Uh, you're doing it and doing it and 1436 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,400 Speaker 5: doing it well, Yeah. 1437 01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,160 Speaker 4: I would have. Yeah, that would have probably been anything worse. 1438 01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:17,479 Speaker 4: But yeah, Mary J. Man she album coming out soon, uh, 1439 01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:20,280 Speaker 4: and the interview is coming out on Apple September thirtieth, 1440 01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,839 Speaker 4: so a few days. 1441 01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:23,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1442 01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:25,559 Speaker 4: I actually kind of want to see the interview now 1443 01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,559 Speaker 4: because I want to know what the transition was for 1444 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 4: her to start singing them bars like that, for her 1445 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,360 Speaker 4: to come from like you can't you might if I 1446 01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,560 Speaker 4: singing your something down the Hill, It's like, oh shit. 1447 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,200 Speaker 6: Well Friday gonna be extra black. You got Mary J. 1448 01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:41,599 Speaker 6: Blige and Luke Cage. 1449 01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:43,960 Speaker 4: Yeah that's true, that's true. 1450 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:44,280 Speaker 2: You know what? 1451 01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,360 Speaker 3: You know what it reminded me of, And I don't 1452 01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,519 Speaker 3: know why. Maybe I'm bugging, but for some reason I 1453 01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:52,280 Speaker 3: flashed back to that real super old season of the 1454 01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,760 Speaker 3: Real World when the one dude came out with the 1455 01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:56,639 Speaker 3: d oh my. 1456 01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:00,720 Speaker 4: Nigga David my nigga, David Tonight. 1457 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:05,839 Speaker 3: Yes, I've seen the keep the other plots you arrested. 1458 01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:14,599 Speaker 4: Come on me, my baby tonight. Oh shit, man, well 1459 01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,160 Speaker 4: I know, I know you say. You gotta get out 1460 01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,200 Speaker 4: of here, trail man. Thank you so much for your time. 1461 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:20,760 Speaker 2: No, thank you both for having me. 1462 01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:25,360 Speaker 3: It was a pleasure, the hardest working duo in podcast history. Uh, 1463 01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,520 Speaker 3: always a pleasure just to be in the presence of greatness. 1464 01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:30,720 Speaker 3: And thank you for giving me a platform to even 1465 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:31,719 Speaker 3: talk anytime. 1466 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,679 Speaker 4: Man, real respect, real man. And make sure you guys 1467 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:36,960 Speaker 4: go ahead check out T. D. Williams. 1468 01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:37,200 Speaker 6: Man. 1469 01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 4: Like I said, he's got some already, got a collection 1470 01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,439 Speaker 4: of great pieces. Man over it, like I said, s 1471 01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:46,400 Speaker 4: side of Cauldron, the Root. You know, just somebody that 1472 01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:50,080 Speaker 4: uh you know, you guys always see when he comes 1473 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,160 Speaker 4: out with something. I'm always retweeting it, shared it on 1474 01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:53,519 Speaker 4: Facebook page and ship like that. 1475 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:54,320 Speaker 3: Uh. 1476 01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,160 Speaker 4: And I don't just do that for everybody, So make 1477 01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:00,439 Speaker 4: sure y'all do that, all right, trill, sweetie, I'll take 1478 01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:09,080 Speaker 4: care of all right. Let's see what else let's get into. No, 1479 01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,559 Speaker 4: let's do some more news we got we got to. 1480 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,559 Speaker 4: A mother is left shaking when a police officer threatens 1481 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:22,400 Speaker 4: to arrest her for breastfeeding in public. Put the tittters away, 1482 01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:29,640 Speaker 4: put the titt is away, Let go of thse titt is. Ma'am, 1483 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:35,400 Speaker 4: white milk matters. Yeah, Georgia mother was threatened by a 1484 01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:38,040 Speaker 4: police officer for breastfeeding in public because we know how 1485 01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:44,760 Speaker 4: dangerous that is to the community. People is like, yeah, honest. 1486 01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:45,960 Speaker 5: Women, breastfeeding, keep it going. 1487 01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,960 Speaker 4: The thing that's weird about it is, I know people 1488 01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,960 Speaker 4: shouldn't sexualize breastfeeding, and that's where a lot of the 1489 01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,960 Speaker 4: route comes because we sexualize the breast the even though 1490 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,680 Speaker 4: it just serves a function that really has nothing to 1491 01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,240 Speaker 4: do with sex. We've still we've sexualized breast that just 1492 01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,600 Speaker 4: what it is, which you know, I understand, I'm not 1493 01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:06,280 Speaker 4: trying to redraft the ideas of what people find attractive 1494 01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,479 Speaker 4: that that won't happen in my lifetime. But what I 1495 01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,160 Speaker 4: do find interesting is, let's say that you really do 1496 01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:16,439 Speaker 4: find titties to just be sexual even when they got 1497 01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,360 Speaker 4: a little baby sucking on them, Then why wouldn't you 1498 01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,439 Speaker 4: just shut the fuck up if that really was your 1499 01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:25,000 Speaker 4: big right? Was like, out those tedties are too sexy 1500 01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:28,400 Speaker 4: to be out feeding that child? Then shut up and 1501 01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,280 Speaker 4: look at some titties, like if it was that fucked up? Like, 1502 01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:35,439 Speaker 4: what how is it you? Legally in Georgia, it's not. 1503 01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,880 Speaker 4: It's not illegal to free breastfeed in public. He's gonna 1504 01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:42,120 Speaker 4: places not so you're gonna take a mother to jail. 1505 01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,800 Speaker 4: What's gonna happen to a child? Why this happens? Come 1506 01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,880 Speaker 4: out because you saw a titty You couldn't handle a 1507 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,720 Speaker 4: teddy bro You think this is the same as and 1508 01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:52,960 Speaker 4: not saying this should be illegal either, but you think 1509 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:54,840 Speaker 4: this is the same as a woman just like walking 1510 01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,240 Speaker 4: into a restaurant, pull up titties out and running around yelling. 1511 01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,000 Speaker 4: That's what like in your mind, that is the same. 1512 01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,920 Speaker 4: You think this is the same as like a strip club, pornography. 1513 01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:07,320 Speaker 4: You think this, this act of love, the most nurturing 1514 01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,400 Speaker 4: thing a mom can do for a child, is somehow 1515 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:18,200 Speaker 4: too sexy for man anyway. Savannah Schuckler from Columbus, Georgia, 1516 01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,439 Speaker 4: was left in tears when she was stopped by deputy 1517 01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,080 Speaker 4: while shopping at the Pigley Wiggley don't get more other 1518 01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:27,000 Speaker 4: than that with her two young children and her sister 1519 01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:30,639 Speaker 4: on Sunday, while nursing the deputy approached me right when 1520 01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,040 Speaker 4: I was about to leave and informed that I needed 1521 01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,360 Speaker 4: to cover up because someone might find it offensive. She 1522 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:40,000 Speaker 4: wrote on Facebook, I repeat it the law back to him, 1523 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,759 Speaker 4: stating that Georgia state laws can't says I can breastfeed 1524 01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,360 Speaker 4: wherever I want as long as I'm authorized to be there. 1525 01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and shout out to her for knowing the law. 1526 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:50,639 Speaker 4: That's when you that's when you know you don't fuck 1527 01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:52,920 Speaker 4: the wrong one, because most people wouldn't even know the law. 1528 01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,280 Speaker 4: She's just like, actually, sir, Statute nine three point twenty 1529 01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:57,120 Speaker 4: seven five. 1530 01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,240 Speaker 6: She probably find out before she even started, because she 1531 01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:00,960 Speaker 6: probably knew what problems right. 1532 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,760 Speaker 4: He's like one of those informed people, And it might 1533 01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:04,120 Speaker 4: be one of the. 1534 01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,240 Speaker 6: Things not trying funny, like she may have been kind 1535 01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,519 Speaker 6: of heavy breasted or something like that when she was like, Okay, 1536 01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,800 Speaker 6: I already know I put my titd out even if 1537 01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:11,920 Speaker 6: it's smaller, don't matter. 1538 01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,000 Speaker 5: But she was like, it's gonna be a problem. 1539 01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,120 Speaker 4: Well, there's a lot of people that you know, are 1540 01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,479 Speaker 4: kind of almost activists in this area, right, So it's 1541 01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:24,479 Speaker 4: not that you know, outlandish for them to be people 1542 01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:28,280 Speaker 4: that would say, you know, I expect some some problems. 1543 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:30,640 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna be prepared, you know, the same way 1544 01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:32,920 Speaker 4: Black people know the laws everywhere they go, just because 1545 01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,000 Speaker 4: we like cops might run up on us. Now we 1546 01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,559 Speaker 4: know it. Don't count to know it, but see it. 1547 01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:42,960 Speaker 4: Uh so, she said. Miss Shuckler said that instead of 1548 01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,439 Speaker 4: accepting that she was within her rights to breastfeed in 1549 01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:47,680 Speaker 4: public the debut, he told her, no, ma'am, that's not 1550 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:51,400 Speaker 4: the case. You just think you know what the law says, 1551 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,320 Speaker 4: and if your nipple becomes exposed, I really don't want 1552 01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,000 Speaker 4: to have to arrest you or you be arrested for 1553 01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,439 Speaker 4: being offensive. This isn't like the First Amendment where you 1554 01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,280 Speaker 4: could say something an offence of the deputy report, he 1555 01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,120 Speaker 4: told Miss Shuckler. Miss Shukler said she then repeated to 1556 01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,320 Speaker 4: Georgia stay lost to him, only failed to point out 1557 01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:10,080 Speaker 4: that he could already see my ariola. God, he was 1558 01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,080 Speaker 4: on her. Teddy is pressed hard, I can I can 1559 01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:19,519 Speaker 4: already see someone. Lord Jesus man, I'm gonna have to 1560 01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:21,880 Speaker 4: put them. I'm gonna have to strap them to this 1561 01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,600 Speaker 4: down and uh maybe put some handcuffs on you, you know, 1562 01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:30,160 Speaker 4: maybe slap it around a little bit, because I don't appreciate. Uh, 1563 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,080 Speaker 4: I swear that's a little I'm drooling. I'm drooling. That 1564 01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,160 Speaker 4: is definitely some ariola right there. So I'm gonna have 1565 01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:40,920 Speaker 4: to just uh uh, it's getting out of here. Was 1566 01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:41,400 Speaker 4: it just me? 1567 01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:42,920 Speaker 5: What did he charge it with? 1568 01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:44,000 Speaker 9: Uh? 1569 01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:48,240 Speaker 4: Nothing. He just warned her, and you know, obviously fucked 1570 01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,680 Speaker 4: up her whole day. You know, he told her that 1571 01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:52,479 Speaker 4: if so and saw nipple, even if she was trying 1572 01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:54,439 Speaker 4: to cover up, that he would have to arrest her. 1573 01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,240 Speaker 4: And then he really didn't want to arrest her. For 1574 01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,080 Speaker 4: him to see my ariola, he would have had to 1575 01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:03,719 Speaker 4: be staring very hard, she say. She explained on Facebook, 1576 01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,920 Speaker 4: I'm so upset that about it, and I understand why 1577 01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,240 Speaker 4: this type of harassment can cause moms to stop breastfeeding 1578 01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:08,639 Speaker 4: in public. 1579 01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:10,519 Speaker 6: A lot of women don't breastfeed at all because of that, 1580 01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:11,800 Speaker 6: because they don't want to deal with it. 1581 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,120 Speaker 4: She vowed to report the incident, said she was grateful 1582 01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,680 Speaker 4: to a paralegal named April, who was also in the 1583 01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,400 Speaker 4: Peagly Wiggly at the time. It took a photo of 1584 01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,759 Speaker 4: the confrontation. April shared her own message on Facebook alongside 1585 01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,040 Speaker 4: the photo of the officer talking to Miss Shuckler. This 1586 01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:27,880 Speaker 4: is the deputy arguing with Savannah about breastfeeding her infant 1587 01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:29,960 Speaker 4: while she's in the grocery store with her other child, 1588 01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:32,760 Speaker 4: telling her that it's indecent exposure because she felt it 1589 01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,639 Speaker 4: necessarily set up to step up out of his way 1590 01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:39,400 Speaker 4: to stop or walk. He found it necessary to step 1591 01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,800 Speaker 4: up out of his way to find the stop a 1592 01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,920 Speaker 4: woman breastfeeding her child and tell her that even though 1593 01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,240 Speaker 4: the baby is hungry, she should cover up. See, the 1594 01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,360 Speaker 4: thing is, Savannah was quite covered. You can see from 1595 01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:54,000 Speaker 4: the picture. She's wearing a maternity bra and a dress 1596 01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,760 Speaker 4: that does not expose herself. All she was doing was 1597 01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,439 Speaker 4: feeding the hungry baby while trying to do some shopping. 1598 01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,880 Speaker 6: So she went through the trouble of having a maturity brad, 1599 01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,800 Speaker 6: which means it's probably a broad You could just flip up, so, 1600 01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,880 Speaker 6: you know, and just let the baby suck. A lot 1601 01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,760 Speaker 6: of times when women do this in public, a lot 1602 01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:12,960 Speaker 6: of times they have like a cloth or a sheet 1603 01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:13,439 Speaker 6: or something. 1604 01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,840 Speaker 4: You can see you can see in the chat like 1605 01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:20,120 Speaker 4: it's just like the clothes actually has like an area. 1606 01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:22,200 Speaker 6: Oh, it was designed for that. Oh, and it's actually 1607 01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:23,760 Speaker 6: designed to wrap the baby in it. 1608 01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:26,599 Speaker 4: No, you can't see it unless you like walk up 1609 01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,320 Speaker 4: on her, being like it's just some titties. Ma'am put 1610 01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:33,400 Speaker 4: his tenders to get on the ground, and. 1611 01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,439 Speaker 6: He didn't arrest her because you knew he couldn't arrest 1612 01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,280 Speaker 6: her and it would just be a big ass incident. 1613 01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:38,960 Speaker 6: He just wanted to come over there and fucking harassed 1614 01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:39,360 Speaker 6: that woman. 1615 01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:44,120 Speaker 4: The the sheriff posted on Twitter, I've seen it him 1616 01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,599 Speaker 4: aware of a post circulating on Facebook regarding situation between 1617 01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:51,839 Speaker 4: the Muskogee County deputy and a woman attenpted to breastfeed 1618 01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,719 Speaker 4: her young child. My wife and I have four children, 1619 01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:56,599 Speaker 4: each of them were breastfaited. Two of my daughters now 1620 01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:58,920 Speaker 4: have small children or that that far. I fully understand 1621 01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:00,720 Speaker 4: appreciate the right of a woman to feed her child 1622 01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:03,280 Speaker 4: wherever she is most comfortable. It is also a law 1623 01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,639 Speaker 4: in the state of Georgia. We are currently looking into 1624 01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,640 Speaker 4: the incident. It will be addressed our office does not 1625 01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:10,720 Speaker 4: condone these actions and willing sure all officers know and 1626 01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:14,880 Speaker 4: understand the law. On behalf of the mus Muskagi County 1627 01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,639 Speaker 4: Sheriff's office, I would like to personally extend an apology 1628 01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,200 Speaker 4: to the woman involved and we hope she knows that 1629 01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,320 Speaker 4: these are not the opinions or practices of the office 1630 01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:22,800 Speaker 4: as a whole. 1631 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,760 Speaker 6: Nothing's gonna happen to the office, So fuck you, you're 1632 01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:26,519 Speaker 6: not doing anything. 1633 01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:30,040 Speaker 4: Later on, later on, he said, earlier this afternoon, I 1634 01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:31,760 Speaker 4: was able to meet with Savannah at the office. In 1635 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,920 Speaker 4: reference to the breastfeeding accident at Piggy Wiggley, I reiterated 1636 01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:37,120 Speaker 4: my stance on breastfeeding as a father and a grandfather. 1637 01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:40,080 Speaker 4: My children were all breastfed and would never condone law 1638 01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,880 Speaker 4: enforcement officer telling my wife that she should stop feeding 1639 01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,680 Speaker 4: our child as or face arrest. This is a very 1640 01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:50,880 Speaker 4: serious complaint, and I'm very concerned about Savannah, and uh, 1641 01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,880 Speaker 4: we have found a formal complaint. So those are like 1642 01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,760 Speaker 4: they're doing something care okay, all right. 1643 01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,160 Speaker 6: A lot of times we hear the generic ass answers 1644 01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,439 Speaker 6: you like, okay, y'all that mean y'all ain't doing nothing, right. 1645 01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it sounds like they are doing something. Let 1646 01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:09,120 Speaker 4: me switch to the second session real quick. But yeah, 1647 01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,559 Speaker 4: something like they are doing something. So that's good. I mean, 1648 01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:14,960 Speaker 4: what more can they you know, do it? He needs 1649 01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:16,960 Speaker 4: to sheriff. So it's not like it's a nobody talking 1650 01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,840 Speaker 4: about we're gonna get this man, Like it's a person 1651 01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:22,000 Speaker 4: in a position to do something about it, that is 1652 01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:23,480 Speaker 4: promising to do something. 1653 01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:26,160 Speaker 5: They shouldn't have bothered at woman in the first place. Yeah, 1654 01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:28,639 Speaker 5: I just want to see her titties. And if somebody 1655 01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,920 Speaker 5: was you, sir, nobody else got damn complained. 1656 01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:31,599 Speaker 2: Right. 1657 01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:38,600 Speaker 4: We are such puritans and such children sometimes, like no 1658 01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,759 Speaker 4: matter how far as society feels like it's come, sometimes 1659 01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:45,640 Speaker 4: we come right back to the same like ooh, booby 1660 01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:50,360 Speaker 4: like feeling inside that you have when you're like a kid. Uh, 1661 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:54,280 Speaker 4: speaking of boobies. Amber Rolls is about to get paid 1662 01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:57,000 Speaker 4: eight million dollars for a world tour to discuss sex 1663 01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:00,920 Speaker 4: and love. Make your money right, man, she hustled that 1664 01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:02,160 Speaker 4: shit hard. 1665 01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:03,920 Speaker 5: I'm not mad at her. 1666 01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:08,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny, man, because I always felt like she's 1667 01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:14,479 Speaker 4: a person that basically became somebody because people hate women, right, Like, 1668 01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:19,000 Speaker 4: it really was easy for her quote unquote. Now I'm 1669 01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,120 Speaker 4: not saying easy, like her life's easy and shit, but 1670 01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,880 Speaker 4: I mean people that hate her made it easy, cause 1671 01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,800 Speaker 4: like they were hating everything she was about. Every time 1672 01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,240 Speaker 4: she has something to say, people weatrolling you have you know, 1673 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,280 Speaker 4: especially being around hip hop, which is one of the 1674 01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:38,000 Speaker 4: most like misogynistic, well openly misogynistic like art forms and 1675 01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:40,680 Speaker 4: some of the personalities dudes having it, they make her 1676 01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:45,000 Speaker 4: relevant as opposed to just kind of being like, you know, 1677 01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:49,280 Speaker 4: it's like instead of being like, oh cool, and you know, 1678 01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,679 Speaker 4: she's just this really attractive woman, it's man, this bitch 1679 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,839 Speaker 4: gold digging, and she's this, and she's that, and you give. 1680 01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:57,880 Speaker 5: Her a platform, y'all, y'all keep a name. 1681 01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:00,760 Speaker 4: And now she's about to make money. And most of 1682 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,880 Speaker 4: them rappers that sit back and try to make her 1683 01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,640 Speaker 4: discuss slut shaving and define and explain it and she. 1684 01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:11,920 Speaker 6: Making real money, she making uh no money and then 1685 01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:16,439 Speaker 6: having the the video taking out of their account and 1686 01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:17,599 Speaker 6: the cars and ship rented. 1687 01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,320 Speaker 5: Now she making all this many hoods. 1688 01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,880 Speaker 4: I want to see what happens when the backlash of 1689 01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,719 Speaker 4: women who quote unquote have studied this and Ivy League 1690 01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:29,919 Speaker 4: people and that, you know, the way they do Beyonce, 1691 01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:34,600 Speaker 4: when it's like, you know, yeah, people are now allotting 1692 01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:38,920 Speaker 4: you for your feminist uh ideals and shit. Uh and 1693 01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:42,679 Speaker 4: they're not super sophisticated and they're not extract extremely well 1694 01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,160 Speaker 4: researched and you didn't go through the proper Ivy League 1695 01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:49,240 Speaker 4: channels for us to respect your opinion. I bet she's 1696 01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,240 Speaker 4: gonna catch a lot of that flag like it's gonna 1697 01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,840 Speaker 4: be now, it's gonna start now that she's you know, 1698 01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,080 Speaker 4: eight million dollars. That's more than some people Ivy League, 1699 01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,559 Speaker 4: people that specialize in that shit will ever make, you know. 1700 01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,880 Speaker 6: So yeah, that's also one of those things too, to 1701 01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:07,200 Speaker 6: where it was cool as long as they could quote 1702 01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,240 Speaker 6: unquote joke her, because even a lot of those people 1703 01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:12,040 Speaker 6: quote unquote shamed and look down on her too, even 1704 01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,000 Speaker 6: though she was saying a lot of the same shit 1705 01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:15,840 Speaker 6: that they were saying. Not that she's right a perfect 1706 01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,040 Speaker 6: and not that they're right a perfect, but a lot 1707 01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,479 Speaker 6: of them aligned on a lot of shit. But she's 1708 01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:22,280 Speaker 6: getting paid for it and they're not, and it becomes 1709 01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:23,200 Speaker 6: a problem. 1710 01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:28,880 Speaker 4: Right, So yeah, I just think, you know, they made 1711 01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:32,120 Speaker 4: her relevant, and you know, you have to talk to 1712 01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,000 Speaker 4: the level you at because I understand she's not the 1713 01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:38,000 Speaker 4: most sophisticated blah blah blah, but the people she's talking 1714 01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,400 Speaker 4: to are the most sophisticated motherfuckers either, and they don't 1715 01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,200 Speaker 4: want to listen to your long ass dissertation about feminism. 1716 01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,240 Speaker 6: Honestly, man, being vocabulations and using big ass words that 1717 01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:49,040 Speaker 6: the average person can't understand. Yeah, like they just want 1718 01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,200 Speaker 6: to hear, like they they it's really a news flash 1719 01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:54,280 Speaker 6: for them to hear something like so. 1720 01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,920 Speaker 4: We gotta respect holes now and shit like that. That's 1721 01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:01,160 Speaker 4: really like a news flash to these motherfuckers. So, you know, 1722 01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:04,280 Speaker 4: it is kind of important what she's doing. And I 1723 01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:07,120 Speaker 4: do think it's gonna be interesting to see how, you know, 1724 01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,960 Speaker 4: how it plays out. But yeah, eight millen dollars. Man, 1725 01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:13,080 Speaker 4: she already had the mother emoji app, which is ranked 1726 01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,720 Speaker 4: number one in the app store. Shout to Kim K. 1727 01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:21,400 Speaker 4: You know, like these women have monetized shit. While people 1728 01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:24,760 Speaker 4: are calling them talent, listen, shit, women have monetized. Some 1729 01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:28,320 Speaker 4: women have just monetized being like I'm super attractive and 1730 01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:33,599 Speaker 4: y'all can't stop fucking paying attention to me. So I like, hey, 1731 01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,400 Speaker 4: I will go away as long as that as soon 1732 01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,439 Speaker 4: as everybody goes I'm not interested, I'll go away. People 1733 01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:41,600 Speaker 4: can't stop themselves. It's amazing, really, and she is the 1734 01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:46,240 Speaker 4: psych to behold. Yeah for sure, man, it's just it's amazing. Really. 1735 01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:51,040 Speaker 4: Let's see, let's talk about fucking with black people. Okay, guys, 1736 01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,720 Speaker 4: let's get into it real quick. Let me find my 1737 01:26:55,560 --> 01:27:02,599 Speaker 4: fucking with black people music? Uh? Where is my music? 1738 01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,680 Speaker 4: Where'd it go out here? 1739 01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:05,160 Speaker 10: This is. 1740 01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:16,680 Speaker 4: Just fucking with those black people. Were just fucking with 1741 01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:17,400 Speaker 4: those blacks. 1742 01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:21,160 Speaker 5: We're just fucking with fucking with black people. 1743 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,439 Speaker 4: That's right, guys, trying to play the game that we 1744 01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:25,720 Speaker 4: all hate to play. It's fucking with black people. The 1745 01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,360 Speaker 4: game where we go all around the globe and we 1746 01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:30,080 Speaker 4: find different articles and we score them from zero two, 1747 01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:31,880 Speaker 4: one hundred and intervals of twenty five for how much 1748 01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:36,080 Speaker 4: we feel fucked with as black people. Today's contestants, everybody, 1749 01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:43,080 Speaker 4: all right, let's see who's fantasia she got on the list? 1750 01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,880 Speaker 4: Oh she had a concert flyer she put on her 1751 01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:49,840 Speaker 4: Instagram for a concert she was supposed to be doing 1752 01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:53,120 Speaker 4: it Charlotte on Sunday, and on the concert flyer had 1753 01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:54,080 Speaker 4: all Lives Matter. 1754 01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:55,400 Speaker 5: Oh that's not good. 1755 01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,679 Speaker 4: That is not good, Karen, that is correct. 1756 01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,200 Speaker 5: Somebody didn't get a hold of him, like, you know, 1757 01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:05,360 Speaker 5: we don't use that language, right, m M no, no. 1758 01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:12,240 Speaker 4: Now, what was interesting about this to me is, oh 1759 01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:16,040 Speaker 4: somebody I follow on Twitter. I just don't. I don't 1760 01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:17,960 Speaker 4: want to suck up her name. So I know it's 1761 01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:21,320 Speaker 4: like Gabby something and she's real cool people and you know, 1762 01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:25,080 Speaker 4: I fuck with her. One of my faves. She I 1763 01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,679 Speaker 4: saw this because she was going in on Anthony Hamilton 1764 01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:31,000 Speaker 4: on his timeline. Now, Anthony Hamilton is very outspoken, very 1765 01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:35,360 Speaker 4: pro black. Like to me, it's never I've never had 1766 01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:37,400 Speaker 4: a question of like, it's Anthony Hamilton down for the 1767 01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:39,719 Speaker 4: cause it's I was like, oh, yeah, that's right, he's 1768 01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,439 Speaker 4: he's like he literally, just a couple of days ago 1769 01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:45,320 Speaker 4: wrote to Essay for The Root about why black lives 1770 01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:48,320 Speaker 4: matter and how we can't stay silent on police violence. 1771 01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:53,040 Speaker 4: So to me, I don't question his ship, right, But 1772 01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:57,599 Speaker 4: apparently Fantasia put out this flyer on her Instagram and 1773 01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,000 Speaker 4: it had all Lives Matter on it. Now, Anthony Hamilt 1774 01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,800 Speaker 4: and then put it out. I absolutely believe him when 1775 01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:05,800 Speaker 4: he says he didn't even like hearing this ship on 1776 01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:07,760 Speaker 4: Twitter was the first time he ever heard of it. 1777 01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:09,880 Speaker 6: I believe it because if he if it across his eyes, 1778 01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:11,280 Speaker 6: he'd be like, don't do this. 1779 01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh, he even and you know, shout out 1780 01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:16,600 Speaker 4: to Gabby and the people that got on him. He 1781 01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:21,000 Speaker 4: even put out like a video stating like nope, like 1782 01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:24,360 Speaker 4: I don't fuck with all lives matter at all? Is 1783 01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:29,360 Speaker 4: black lives matter? Period. It's like I think people wanted 1784 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,640 Speaker 4: him to back out of the concert, and you know, 1785 01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:34,760 Speaker 4: I get very wishy watching with that ship because I 1786 01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:36,920 Speaker 4: don't tell other people what to do with their money, 1787 01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,160 Speaker 4: and I think a lot of times people overstep their 1788 01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:43,200 Speaker 4: bounds of that kind of shit. Because I'm not gonna 1789 01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:45,679 Speaker 4: recoup his legal fees. I'm not gonna go to court 1790 01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:47,880 Speaker 4: with him. I'm not. I don't know how any of 1791 01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:51,040 Speaker 4: that shit works. It's very easy to say it from 1792 01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:54,000 Speaker 4: Twitter what somebody else should do, but it's not very 1793 01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:59,200 Speaker 4: it's not always feasible, you know. It's like, uh, it's 1794 01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:00,960 Speaker 4: you know, it's like chair checking the shit. Now. Some 1795 01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,240 Speaker 4: people are into that shit. I'm just not into it that, 1796 01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:05,240 Speaker 4: you know, Like you lose me when it comes to 1797 01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:08,559 Speaker 4: that shit, like, uh, that's his pockets and whatever. I 1798 01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,600 Speaker 4: don't know what his bill situation looked like or his 1799 01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:13,160 Speaker 4: debt situation looked like, I know what his kids eat. 1800 01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:16,200 Speaker 4: I don't know any of that shit. Well tell me, 1801 01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:17,760 Speaker 4: I do kind of know what his kids because I 1802 01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:20,800 Speaker 4: saw him and Hastito on Towns three Little beautiful Boys 1803 01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:26,639 Speaker 4: precious right, But at any rate, I don't I didn't 1804 01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:28,519 Speaker 4: get into all that, Like I just thought that was 1805 01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:32,519 Speaker 4: like okay, like I'm supposed to find out about this 1806 01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:35,200 Speaker 4: and immediately be like I quit, fuck you, fuck this tour, 1807 01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:38,080 Speaker 4: fuck you know whatever. I don't know, and maybe he 1808 01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:40,680 Speaker 4: will ultimately end up quitting or whatever. But it was 1809 01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:43,080 Speaker 4: brought to his attention, so he can't say it wasn't 1810 01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:48,599 Speaker 4: you know she was going there on those two hours. 1811 01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,360 Speaker 4: It was you know me, man, I'll laugh at some 1812 01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:53,960 Speaker 4: shit and be like I wouldn't do that, but it 1813 01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,800 Speaker 4: is funny. And she was going in on him, and 1814 01:30:56,840 --> 01:31:00,320 Speaker 4: everybody's making jokes about how black his music is, you know, like, oh, 1815 01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:03,160 Speaker 4: you know his voice makes you start stirring up a 1816 01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:04,520 Speaker 4: pot of greens. 1817 01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:08,880 Speaker 5: And you know it's you know, making corn brand and 1818 01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:09,800 Speaker 5: Fried pat back. 1819 01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, his sound is his sound is the sound of 1820 01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:16,920 Speaker 4: hog Malls, you know. Ship Like I to me, it 1821 01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:20,320 Speaker 4: was it was a ruthless Sunday Twitter, and everybody was 1822 01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:23,240 Speaker 4: going in on everything all at the same time. Seventeen 1823 01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:26,080 Speaker 4: different arguments lappen, and you know how black Twitter gets 1824 01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,640 Speaker 4: on Sunday, So I was just laughing. Yeah, but uh 1825 01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:35,200 Speaker 4: but at any rate, uh, she she had she I 1826 01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:39,320 Speaker 4: guess it was her concert. So after everybody went in 1827 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,720 Speaker 4: and on her with this, uh and I can put 1828 01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:43,280 Speaker 4: it on on the screen if you want to see 1829 01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:46,120 Speaker 4: what the fly looked like. But everybody said, hey, you 1830 01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:48,400 Speaker 4: know and shout out to Robert latal It was a 1831 01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:51,839 Speaker 4: black sports online that got the scoop that showed everybody 1832 01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:54,120 Speaker 4: that it was the All Lives Matter concert, and it 1833 01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:57,559 Speaker 4: started like it was it was so funny because it 1834 01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:01,160 Speaker 4: was on her page right, but it said the headline 1835 01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:06,960 Speaker 4: was like Fantasia and Anthony Hamilton headline of All Lives 1836 01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:08,719 Speaker 4: Matter concert in Charlotte. 1837 01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:11,879 Speaker 5: And that's why he had to come out and be like, nah. 1838 01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:17,519 Speaker 4: Doll, I know's got biggest fuck because you know, you 1839 01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:20,760 Speaker 4: don't know what's on the flyer. You don't know, no 1840 01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:23,720 Speaker 4: one does. And if someone adds it, especially like what 1841 01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,880 Speaker 4: it seems like Fantasia did was add this to something 1842 01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,880 Speaker 4: without running it by everybody, because you know, it was 1843 01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:32,360 Speaker 4: like I think people feel like celebrity and shit is 1844 01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,439 Speaker 4: more organized than it is. It's not. You know, promoters 1845 01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:37,519 Speaker 4: don't go, oh, let me run this shit, Haftime. You 1846 01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:39,719 Speaker 4: go to a promoter and it's in the fucking flying 1847 01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:41,960 Speaker 4: got people that's there on it. You know what I mean, 1848 01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:45,519 Speaker 4: right Like, it's just like black photoshop on it. But 1849 01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:48,920 Speaker 4: oh my god, it was so good. It says all 1850 01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:51,639 Speaker 4: lives matter. September twenty fifth. Now, with all the shit 1851 01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:53,840 Speaker 4: happening in Charlotte, I know it wasn't happening at the time. 1852 01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:57,360 Speaker 4: They probably scheduled this, but at the time that this happened, 1853 01:32:57,479 --> 01:33:02,920 Speaker 4: everybody's like no, sis no, And so she canceled it. 1854 01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:06,080 Speaker 4: She postponed it, I think, to the next week, which 1855 01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:09,960 Speaker 4: is funny because I wish she had had it, not 1856 01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:12,559 Speaker 4: because I wanted Anthony Hamilton to not show up or whatever. 1857 01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,040 Speaker 4: I think he should have showed up, should have say 1858 01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,360 Speaker 4: the National Anthony should have kneled, put up a black fire, 1859 01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:21,280 Speaker 4: fits and quick. But I'm saying, I'm saying I wanted 1860 01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,720 Speaker 4: to see I bet the protesters would have went down 1861 01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:27,479 Speaker 4: there and then ship would have got real. No, no, won, 1862 01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:29,800 Speaker 4: I want to hear this all lives matter bullshit, sisy, 1863 01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:34,200 Speaker 4: I want to hear this, Come on, man. So she 1864 01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:40,599 Speaker 4: did this, and Anthony Hamilton released a video basically having 1865 01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:44,120 Speaker 4: a clear himself. Now, I don't know that this is 1866 01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:46,040 Speaker 4: really good enough for some people, because I think people 1867 01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:49,960 Speaker 4: wanted him to just turn down the whole event sight unseen, 1868 01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:52,080 Speaker 4: just like fuck the fuck, y'all, I'm out. 1869 01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:54,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, most people don't won't do that every day 1870 01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:55,160 Speaker 5: to day life. 1871 01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:57,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean most you know, most people go to 1872 01:33:57,640 --> 01:33:59,960 Speaker 4: work for a company that you know it's not People 1873 01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:03,080 Speaker 4: make compromises where they feel comfortable, you know, like you. 1874 01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:06,799 Speaker 5: Nobody else was like burn the world with you tomorrow. 1875 01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:08,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna see in this tweet from a phone 1876 01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:12,160 Speaker 4: hey by small child's fingers. But other than that, you 1877 01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:14,559 Speaker 4: need to quit your job, you know, so we'll see. 1878 01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,519 Speaker 4: But uh, he did release his statement, which I thought was. 1879 01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:20,559 Speaker 7: Uh Unfortunately, there was a flyer put out with my 1880 01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:24,320 Speaker 7: name on it that I didn't approve in All Lives 1881 01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:28,040 Speaker 7: Matter flying. If you really want to know how I 1882 01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:31,160 Speaker 7: feel about our people and where we are and the injustice, 1883 01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:35,200 Speaker 7: there's an article I ruled about two days ago. It's 1884 01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:38,719 Speaker 7: posted go to the roots dot com. 1885 01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:40,800 Speaker 4: Hold up, he's so like you put that s on 1886 01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:45,639 Speaker 4: the route though the roots dot com. Hey man, that's 1887 01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:49,080 Speaker 4: a that's so good. That's everything we pluralize some ship 1888 01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:50,960 Speaker 4: because we're black, y'all, that's for sure. 1889 01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:53,479 Speaker 5: Ain't make it plural. 1890 01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:57,240 Speaker 4: The roots dot com all right, so hopefully Malik B 1891 01:34:57,360 --> 01:34:59,679 Speaker 4: will be there and uh, black dot. 1892 01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:03,920 Speaker 7: You can see exactly how I feel. I'm a father 1893 01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:08,479 Speaker 7: of six black males, six so black lives matter. 1894 01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:15,920 Speaker 4: And I proved this message. He did everything with Tam 1895 01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:19,479 Speaker 4: gave me in it. But because she was on his ass, 1896 01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:22,320 Speaker 4: it was it was so funny. I know, I shouldn't 1897 01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:24,760 Speaker 4: be laughing, man, it was funny to me. I don't know. 1898 01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:25,559 Speaker 2: She was good. 1899 01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:29,080 Speaker 4: She had all kinds of jokes. I forget. Oh she 1900 01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:32,280 Speaker 4: had one to you. It was something like I don't 1901 01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:35,320 Speaker 4: care if you served Harry Tubman fat back. So it 1902 01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:38,920 Speaker 4: was just so crazy shit. I was like, just no 1903 01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:41,240 Speaker 4: roots on to it. It's no rusts. That's the part 1904 01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:43,800 Speaker 4: of me that's just that's the part of me that's 1905 01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:46,000 Speaker 4: holding me back. Is I don't never not find that 1906 01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:50,800 Speaker 4: kind of shit funny. But yeah, so, uh he had 1907 01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:53,760 Speaker 4: written and this happened September twenty third, my birthday, so 1908 01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:56,880 Speaker 4: it was actually before you know this concert and an 1909 01:35:57,439 --> 01:35:57,720 Speaker 4: he was. 1910 01:35:57,720 --> 01:35:58,960 Speaker 5: Like, if you want to know how I feel, I 1911 01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:01,400 Speaker 5: put this out with yeah. 1912 01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:03,600 Speaker 4: It was we are fed up with injustice. And it 1913 01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:11,160 Speaker 4: was his whole essay basically, and and and it was 1914 01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:14,719 Speaker 4: from his It wasn't from someone else. It wasn't an interview. 1915 01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:20,720 Speaker 4: It was him speaking out, you know. So now I 1916 01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:22,760 Speaker 4: don't know if he's gonna do this concert or not. 1917 01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:25,080 Speaker 4: I don't know, Maybe he won't. At this point, you 1918 01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:28,840 Speaker 4: never know. Till you're asking, you never get. You never 1919 01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:31,479 Speaker 4: get what you asked for. Unless you say something the 1920 01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:35,519 Speaker 4: same way that if the flyer had I don't know, 1921 01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:38,960 Speaker 4: a Nazi swastika on it, you know, you might back 1922 01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:42,960 Speaker 4: out of the event. All Lives Matter is pretty much 1923 01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:45,880 Speaker 4: some hate group ship at this point. You can't like 1924 01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:49,400 Speaker 4: you can't, I know, White Lives Matter is definitely hate group, 1925 01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:53,479 Speaker 4: but you can't really avoid the connotation all Lives Matter has. 1926 01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:57,919 Speaker 4: And that's exactly what Fantasia has chosen to do because 1927 01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:01,880 Speaker 4: she's responded as well well her husband, and they put 1928 01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:07,719 Speaker 4: out an eight minute video essentially doing the all lives 1929 01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:11,680 Speaker 4: matter because black lives matter and Jesus and God in 1930 01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:13,920 Speaker 4: the church y'all. You know that type of thing. 1931 01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:19,479 Speaker 6: And I think too it maybe just her disconnection with 1932 01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:23,640 Speaker 6: social media, not trying funny, she's constantly touring and around 1933 01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:26,120 Speaker 6: and you know not that that's not an excuse not 1934 01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:29,639 Speaker 6: to inform yourself. But when people say things like that, 1935 01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:31,800 Speaker 6: I think it comes out of out of a place. 1936 01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:35,360 Speaker 4: Of not being informed, you know what. I don't. 1937 01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:38,920 Speaker 6: For some people, not everybody. For some people it comes 1938 01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:40,759 Speaker 6: out of a place of just not being informed. 1939 01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:45,720 Speaker 4: I mean, she she has been in the lab, lose like, 1940 01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:48,240 Speaker 4: losing weight, getting fit in the gym, and shit, maybe 1941 01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:51,639 Speaker 4: she hasn't had time to really peruse social media. Maybe 1942 01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:52,800 Speaker 4: she don't be on it like that. 1943 01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:53,639 Speaker 5: I don't think they do. 1944 01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:55,680 Speaker 6: People when people make comments like that, I do not 1945 01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:59,519 Speaker 6: think that they're in social media as much as most 1946 01:37:59,560 --> 01:37:59,960 Speaker 6: people are. 1947 01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:03,120 Speaker 4: Here's my problem, though, when you're put in purpose for 1948 01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:07,640 Speaker 4: like all Lives Matter on your flyer, there's no to me, 1949 01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:11,599 Speaker 4: it's so irresponsible to not know the connotation. And it's 1950 01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:15,679 Speaker 4: just very hard for me to imagine a situation where 1951 01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:19,120 Speaker 4: because it's a direct response to Black Lives Matter. 1952 01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:23,120 Speaker 6: That's true and that's not an excuse because don't you 1953 01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:24,519 Speaker 6: got a team of people that you pay. 1954 01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,000 Speaker 4: Like I said, this ship is a lot less sophisticated 1955 01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:33,080 Speaker 4: than people think. I think she posted that fly, and 1956 01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:36,080 Speaker 4: she thought this, See what they didn't think about is 1957 01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:38,800 Speaker 4: this all lives matter. That means everybody is the same. 1958 01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:42,439 Speaker 4: But that's also what black lives matter means, ma'am. And 1959 01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:44,760 Speaker 4: people that use all lives matter have been saying that 1960 01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:48,000 Speaker 4: to go all lives matter to meat, which means you 1961 01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:50,639 Speaker 4: guys shouldn't even be out here protesting for black lives. 1962 01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:57,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, she put out a message with her husband, 1963 01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:03,439 Speaker 4: Oh this sound is terrible, but she basically said that 1964 01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:07,360 Speaker 4: it got laid on my heart to do this. It 1965 01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:09,559 Speaker 4: wasn't just about music. I don't know if people were 1966 01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,240 Speaker 4: coming out thinking they were gonna hear my songs, but 1967 01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:16,679 Speaker 4: what they were really going to hear was worship. Listen, listen. 1968 01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:24,720 Speaker 4: I don't believe you, because if motherfucker showed up to 1969 01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:28,400 Speaker 4: that concert and you was like, I ain't singing none 1970 01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:32,839 Speaker 4: of my songs, it was gonna be another ride in Charlotte. 1971 01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:36,519 Speaker 4: It was gonna be another riot in Charlotte, because motherfuck's 1972 01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:38,559 Speaker 4: gonna be like, well my money, give my money back. 1973 01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:42,880 Speaker 4: I didn't show up here for this, and you can't 1974 01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:47,120 Speaker 4: just put that. You need to put that on the fly. Anyway, 1975 01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:50,320 Speaker 4: they were gonna hear worship in prayer and poetry reading 1976 01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:52,640 Speaker 4: and strong men coming together to see if we can 1977 01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:55,519 Speaker 4: pull in our men. Not just only black, not just 1978 01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:58,559 Speaker 4: only white people were out protesting the day. It wasn't 1979 01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:00,320 Speaker 4: just white people, it was black people, but it was 1980 01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:01,200 Speaker 4: Latino people. 1981 01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:04,240 Speaker 5: But your fire presented it as a concert, maam. 1982 01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:05,519 Speaker 2: Uh. 1983 01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:08,120 Speaker 4: And then she also said we're still gonna do this. 1984 01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:10,280 Speaker 4: We're gonna do this next week. 1985 01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:11,120 Speaker 2: Uh. 1986 01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:13,640 Speaker 4: She also issued a statement further than her statement that 1987 01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:16,000 Speaker 4: all lives matter. I understand that our people are still 1988 01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,280 Speaker 4: in poverty and we're not getting certain things that we deserve. 1989 01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:20,400 Speaker 4: I understand that. But the only way we're gonna get 1990 01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:25,599 Speaker 4: it is not through tear it up buildings. Yeah, now, 1991 01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,280 Speaker 4: see that all lives matter shit wasn't That's not a 1992 01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:32,439 Speaker 4: mistake here, I'm telling you man, we're now the point 1993 01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:35,760 Speaker 4: where it's a direct hate message back to black lives matter. 1994 01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:37,439 Speaker 4: You can't pretend that it's some other shit. 1995 01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:38,519 Speaker 2: You know. 1996 01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:43,640 Speaker 4: I wish people were just dis ignorant. It's not. It's 1997 01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:47,960 Speaker 4: been how many years since, but yeah, since Treyvon got shot, 1998 01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:51,000 Speaker 4: since Mike Brown got shot. It's no. One don't know. 1999 01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:54,160 Speaker 4: You know, we're not I know it's double naggad. But 2000 01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:57,880 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, everybody knows, uh, she said 2001 01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:01,000 Speaker 4: while sitting next to her husband, Kendall Taylor. Two thousand 2002 01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:03,679 Speaker 4: years ago, Jesus ended the debate on which lives matter. 2003 01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:05,599 Speaker 4: He died for all of us, all of us, Martin 2004 01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:09,120 Speaker 4: Luther King. Oh, the trifecta still for love and unity 2005 01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:11,479 Speaker 4: for all people. United, we stay at Divided, we fall. 2006 01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:14,439 Speaker 4: Let's all stand together. So black lives matter, Yes, they do. 2007 01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:15,439 Speaker 4: All lives matter? 2008 01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:19,760 Speaker 5: Where did she use that? 2009 01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:24,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's one hundred for me. I'm fucked with, you know. 2010 01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:28,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I's to zero for Anthony Hamilton. But like 2011 01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:30,800 Speaker 4: I said, I don't be up in people's pockets like 2012 01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:31,960 Speaker 4: the way other people do. 2013 01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:32,639 Speaker 2: I but. 2014 01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:38,680 Speaker 4: There's nothing ambiguous about his stamps in my opinion. And 2015 01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:40,880 Speaker 4: we'll see Peo performs at the concert. Because you know, 2016 01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:46,639 Speaker 4: it's one thing to sign up for All Lives Matter concert. 2017 01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:50,599 Speaker 4: I think that's a completely different level of disrespect. It's 2018 01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:53,720 Speaker 4: another thing for motherfuckers to pull some switcherroo shit on 2019 01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:55,960 Speaker 4: you after you done signed up, like, yeah, this is 2020 01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:58,400 Speaker 4: really gonna be an All Lives Matter concert? Hey, motherfucker, 2021 01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:01,160 Speaker 4: you need to tell me that shit up front, you know, 2022 01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:04,080 Speaker 4: what I mean, like, you know, why is this even 2023 01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:07,640 Speaker 4: on that? Yeah, because you got some random bug up 2024 01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:13,080 Speaker 4: your ass to decide to say that hateful bullshit. Yeah, 2025 01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:15,639 Speaker 4: her husband said, it's real easy to critique someone sitting 2026 01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:18,280 Speaker 4: behind your desk, go behind your smartphone, and are you 2027 01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:21,800 Speaker 4: talking about a word between all and black. I have 2028 01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:25,160 Speaker 4: a lot of white employees, white colleagues, white business partners. 2029 01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:27,280 Speaker 4: I have a mixed grandchild. And I'm not going to 2030 01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:29,800 Speaker 4: discount that black life is of lesser value than a 2031 01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:32,800 Speaker 4: white life, or Hispanic life, or agent life, or Latino life. 2032 01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:37,320 Speaker 4: Black lives matter because all lives matter. These basic simple motherfuckers. Nope, 2033 01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:39,720 Speaker 4: not gonna make a reading joke. Not gonna do it. 2034 01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:41,880 Speaker 3: I gonna do it. 2035 01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:44,680 Speaker 5: She get a hundred he is working on me. 2036 01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:46,200 Speaker 1: Not gonna do it. 2037 01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:51,559 Speaker 4: She probably couldn't even revieur lives matter. 2038 01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:51,760 Speaker 3: Oh. 2039 01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:54,559 Speaker 4: I couldn't help it. I couldn't help it. I'm sorry, y'all. 2040 01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:55,120 Speaker 6: All. 2041 01:42:58,120 --> 01:43:01,160 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, y'all. I didn't I couldn't help it, y'all. 2042 01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:01,800 Speaker 3: I just. 2043 01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,439 Speaker 4: I tried. I tried, y'all. I tried to be better 2044 01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:09,519 Speaker 4: than that. I tried to be better than that. It's 2045 01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:12,000 Speaker 4: a lot of people that struggle with literacy, and I 2046 01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:16,000 Speaker 4: know it. It's not They shouldn't be shamed. And he 2047 01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:18,640 Speaker 4: probably has learned to read a long time ago. And 2048 01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:22,639 Speaker 4: here I am for a flawed human being. I don't. 2049 01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:25,280 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, y'all. A hundred. I was that fucked with. 2050 01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:32,559 Speaker 4: I can't even pretend I wasn't. The Virginia Police Department 2051 01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:35,360 Speaker 4: are popping the hoods on cop cars to block the 2052 01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:39,559 Speaker 4: dash cams. One hundred mm hmm yep. 2053 01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:40,160 Speaker 6: Uh. 2054 01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:42,880 Speaker 4: They're saying that they're doing it to cool the cars off. 2055 01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:46,040 Speaker 4: They've never needed to be cooled off in the history 2056 01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:48,280 Speaker 4: of cars before, but they got these dash cams in. 2057 01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:50,960 Speaker 4: Suddenly the cars need to be cooled. 2058 01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:54,479 Speaker 6: A hundred and if they won't transparency, they said, you 2059 01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:57,640 Speaker 6: pop that motherfucking hood you're getting, just spend it, Like, 2060 01:43:57,640 --> 01:43:59,680 Speaker 6: what are we talking about here, Papa, goddamn hood, Get 2061 01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:00,679 Speaker 6: out of here now. 2062 01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:05,760 Speaker 4: Sean King posted the initial pictures of this, so if 2063 01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:08,479 Speaker 4: y'all got a problem with it, hit up his Twitter account. 2064 01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:10,720 Speaker 4: But uh, all of. 2065 01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:12,439 Speaker 6: A sudden, all the cars got a problem, All the 2066 01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:15,040 Speaker 6: cause got issues. Ain't none of these cars got a 2067 01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:16,720 Speaker 6: record of going to the shop. Now, all of a 2068 01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:18,559 Speaker 6: sudden they constant. 2069 01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:21,320 Speaker 4: It was originally posted on local person's Facebook page, but 2070 01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:24,679 Speaker 4: of course Sean King picked it up and has spread 2071 01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:32,160 Speaker 4: the word. But uh yeah, we don't know for a 2072 01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:35,720 Speaker 4: fact that it is, but it feels like that's what 2073 01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:40,240 Speaker 4: it is. I'm gonna say a hundred. 2074 01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:42,439 Speaker 6: Because whenever they got their camera, somebody figured out that 2075 01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:43,440 Speaker 6: dead hood. 2076 01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:43,960 Speaker 5: Blocks the view. 2077 01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:47,240 Speaker 4: Yep, I gotta go with a hundred on this. Some guys, 2078 01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:53,360 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but I'm really not sorry. Okay, this is ridiculous. 2079 01:44:54,760 --> 01:45:03,439 Speaker 4: Let's see what else happened. Uh, white police chief rants 2080 01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:06,280 Speaker 4: on Facebook and the Louisiana town here's echoes of his 2081 01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:14,240 Speaker 4: races past echoes pasted anyway. Uh, Sunday sermons have just 2082 01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:18,960 Speaker 4: ended when residents uh this with residents of this rivertown 2083 01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:22,240 Speaker 4: learned that a lone black gunman had killed three police officers, 2084 01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:25,479 Speaker 4: Baton Rouge for the news sinking. A profane message appeared 2085 01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:29,360 Speaker 4: on Facebook. Hey mister bullshit president, it. 2086 01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:32,600 Speaker 5: Began, Oh that's how we're starting this. 2087 01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:35,439 Speaker 4: When are you going to grow a fucking pair of 2088 01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:38,360 Speaker 4: tailer like it is? These are terrorists that have declared 2089 01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:42,519 Speaker 4: fucking warm my brother white police officers. Enough is enough? 2090 01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:47,960 Speaker 4: The author was Scylar Door, Jonesville's white police chief. Cool. 2091 01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:53,800 Speaker 4: Sure the people in that town are getting a fair shake, 2092 01:45:54,240 --> 01:46:01,000 Speaker 4: all the black people. I'm sure everybody. Everybody loves that. 2093 01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:09,160 Speaker 4: The post instantly cleave the community, and too many black residents, 2094 01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:12,040 Speaker 4: who make up seventy percent of Jonesville, saw as a 2095 01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:14,360 Speaker 4: racist rant. Some whites defended Doors, saying that he had 2096 01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:16,000 Speaker 4: a right to speak his mind. Two days later, the 2097 01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:19,600 Speaker 4: majority black town council fired the young chief. If his 2098 01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:24,479 Speaker 4: post has stirred anger, then his firing provoked outrage. Door 2099 01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:28,519 Speaker 4: received encouragement, even employment offers from across the country. God, 2100 01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:30,920 Speaker 4: white people are so evil for that. You evil for 2101 01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:34,160 Speaker 4: that dog. You If you saw that and went I 2102 01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:37,759 Speaker 4: need that man here, you an evil motherfucker. He also 2103 01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:40,040 Speaker 4: received death threats when a friend organized a march on 2104 01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:42,400 Speaker 4: Doors behalf the share persuade him to college off fear 2105 01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:47,400 Speaker 4: they would turn into a shootout. I don't know if 2106 01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:49,640 Speaker 4: he got death threats, then maybe I don't. I mean, 2107 01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:51,720 Speaker 4: I don't think people would have. But you know it's 2108 01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:55,719 Speaker 4: easy for me to say that without having my life threatened. Today, 2109 01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:58,519 Speaker 4: Jonesville remains on edge. Some whites think the town's black 2110 01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:01,280 Speaker 4: officials will put in political career ness ahead of public safety. 2111 01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:05,640 Speaker 4: White people ain't ship for that that, y'all. Oh, political 2112 01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:09,679 Speaker 4: correctness just sucking up your whole lives. Oh it's so bad. Oh, 2113 01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:12,000 Speaker 4: how damn I couldn't just call him nickers like we 2114 01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:15,160 Speaker 4: used to some blacks, the ugly hands of the racial 2115 01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:17,920 Speaker 4: violence that's long hunted the Deep South. Indors profane posts 2116 01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:20,920 Speaker 4: and online debates that followed in Jonesville, as in many 2117 01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:23,240 Speaker 4: places across the nation, Black people and police alke feel 2118 01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:32,559 Speaker 4: under attack. Yeah, but only one is literally under attacks. 2119 01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:36,680 Speaker 6: And buddhapoof vests yeah, and shields and helmets. 2120 01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:41,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. Doors says he is not a racist. He says 2121 01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:42,920 Speaker 4: he is fighting for his First Amendment rights. 2122 01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:43,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2123 01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:46,800 Speaker 4: People that kill cops end up dead on custody. People 2124 01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:51,479 Speaker 4: that kill black people, uh that I policed just end 2125 01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:58,000 Speaker 4: up at you know, work on pay leave and promotions 2126 01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:01,200 Speaker 4: and shit. UHL a bath for everybody in that town 2127 01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:06,240 Speaker 4: that found out how quickly that uh they don't have 2128 01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:08,000 Speaker 4: they white friends? Ain't they white friends? 2129 01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:09,519 Speaker 5: Come on real quickly. 2130 01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:11,920 Speaker 4: A lot of people thought race wasn't a big problem 2131 01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:15,840 Speaker 4: for them, that just found out through Facebook. Actually it's super, 2132 01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:21,000 Speaker 4: it's super super, is I support our share, Like what 2133 01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:28,080 Speaker 4: but he said, so anyway, man zero to one hundred. 2134 01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:34,559 Speaker 6: Zero, but one hundred for the other cities. It was like, 2135 01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:36,519 Speaker 6: you know what, you you on to wave a while. 2136 01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:37,479 Speaker 4: We'll pick you up. Fuck you. 2137 01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:41,320 Speaker 6: Okay, Because they got rid of his ass, so I'm 2138 01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:42,080 Speaker 6: here for it was. 2139 01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:46,120 Speaker 5: Like, oh, oh okay, keep the fuck out of here. 2140 01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:46,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2141 01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:49,360 Speaker 4: I also had to give them, give them a hundred 2142 01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:54,000 Speaker 4: for that one. All right, let's get into something else 2143 01:48:54,040 --> 01:49:35,839 Speaker 4: a little lighters. 2144 01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:37,920 Speaker 5: When I got the reds with the brother wrapping over. 2145 01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:45,439 Speaker 4: It, I think this is just back when I used 2146 01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:46,320 Speaker 4: to have long intros. 2147 01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:48,080 Speaker 5: My intro. 2148 01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:51,680 Speaker 4: Here is the go that is the face of Pajamas 2149 01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:52,439 Speaker 4: Live and the best. 2150 01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:55,000 Speaker 7: And I don't waste time on the mic with the door, 2151 01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:57,120 Speaker 7: Jump to the with them, jump jump to the with. 2152 01:49:57,200 --> 01:50:00,280 Speaker 4: The jump and I'm hit to the b. Deliver it 2153 01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:02,800 Speaker 4: to make your shake your pants, make a chance, come 2154 01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:05,720 Speaker 4: on a dead gods wrath the girl, don't wait, make 2155 01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:08,840 Speaker 4: the flot take the world in the squirrel trying to 2156 01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:11,120 Speaker 4: get a nut the music, your black too the dance 2157 01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:13,479 Speaker 4: floor or your pants into the heath. 2158 01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:16,639 Speaker 6: I'm gonna say, yeah, everybody over here, everybody over there, 2159 01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:20,640 Speaker 6: the crowd is living on this thaty people in the house. 2160 01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:27,640 Speaker 4: Move move, Come on, not sweat. 2161 01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:29,439 Speaker 5: Babba. 2162 01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:34,320 Speaker 4: Let the music take control. Let the ridsdom. 2163 01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:36,000 Speaker 2: Love you, sweat. 2164 01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:49,080 Speaker 4: Sweat, Let the milling take control, Let the all right this. 2165 01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:51,040 Speaker 4: White people knew this, guys, if you didn't get it 2166 01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:56,200 Speaker 4: by now, let's see what white folks is talking about today. 2167 01:50:57,479 --> 01:51:00,439 Speaker 4: Here's some white people news from an advice column Dear Prudence. 2168 01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:08,080 Speaker 4: That's right. She gives advice every week on slate dot com. 2169 01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:12,679 Speaker 4: They asked questions, and here's the first question, Dear Prudence. 2170 01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:15,200 Speaker 4: I don't get along with my sister in law. She 2171 01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:17,640 Speaker 4: adores my brother and makes them very happy, so I 2172 01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:20,040 Speaker 4: try to be friendly when I see her. But now 2173 01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:22,320 Speaker 4: that we've moved back to his hometown and she lives 2174 01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:24,800 Speaker 4: just a few miles away, it's gotten much harder. She 2175 01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:27,760 Speaker 4: criticizes my taste in furniture, my clothes, and my cook 2176 01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:30,120 Speaker 4: and I try to deflect the comments, but she will 2177 01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:32,800 Speaker 4: not let it go. Recently, my husband and I adopted 2178 01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:36,000 Speaker 4: two rescue dogs and posted pictures of them in Facebook. 2179 01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:38,880 Speaker 4: I didn't get a text with my sister in law 2180 01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:40,960 Speaker 4: telling me that I have to change the name of 2181 01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:44,479 Speaker 4: my dogs because she is going to use those names 2182 01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:51,559 Speaker 4: for her children. What m h. Nope, she is now pregnant. 2183 01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:54,160 Speaker 4: But I can't tell anyone. This is ridiculous and I 2184 01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:56,280 Speaker 4: don't know what to do. But I just ignore her 2185 01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:57,800 Speaker 4: and hope it goes So I just ignore her and 2186 01:51:57,880 --> 01:52:00,280 Speaker 4: hope it goes away. Share the text it right over 2187 01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:03,840 Speaker 4: the colds for spoiled pregnant, spoiling the pregnancy surprise. Post 2188 01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:06,920 Speaker 4: tons of pictures of my dogs and refer to them 2189 01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:09,880 Speaker 4: as my babies. I have to live with this woman 2190 01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:11,679 Speaker 4: in my life, and I don't want to hurt my brother, 2191 01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:14,280 Speaker 4: but I am going to. I'm not changing the name 2192 01:52:14,360 --> 01:52:20,880 Speaker 4: of my dogs. So there, you guys go. That's white people. 2193 01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:23,960 Speaker 4: Need y'all want to hear their advice to that provey 2194 01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:28,400 Speaker 4: gave or does it not matter. I've heard plenty of 2195 01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:30,880 Speaker 4: fights over baby names. Obviyet to come across dog versus 2196 01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:35,000 Speaker 4: unborn baby combo, where the dogs in question have already 2197 01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:37,639 Speaker 4: been named and the baby does not yet exist. I 2198 01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:40,519 Speaker 4: almost almost admire her ability to mind conflict from a 2199 01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:44,639 Speaker 4: seemingly meaning a peaceful landscape, as tempting as it might 2200 01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:46,960 Speaker 4: be to start rubbing ruby and synthesize it in your 2201 01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:51,280 Speaker 4: sister's face. I think gentle non engagement in the road 2202 01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:54,160 Speaker 4: to is the road to hold here. We're not going 2203 01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:56,679 Speaker 4: to change the dolls names, but congratulations on your pregnancy. 2204 01:52:56,720 --> 01:52:59,240 Speaker 4: What it's like news. Don't get drawn into an argument 2205 01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:02,800 Speaker 4: or explanation for your behavior, because well, she's asking, is so, 2206 01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:05,680 Speaker 4: sir that the only response that marriage is a flat refusal. 2207 01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:12,160 Speaker 4: So you agree with that. Keep the dog names. Who 2208 01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:17,040 Speaker 4: is it? She might be faking the pregnancy even ah, 2209 01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:19,439 Speaker 4: you never know, she might be. Well, if she is 2210 01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:21,080 Speaker 4: not even the pregnancy, she just wants you to make 2211 01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:23,559 Speaker 4: you change the name of your dogs just to be as. 2212 01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:25,000 Speaker 3: Her. 2213 01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:29,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would not change the name of Bailey and Apple. 2214 01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:35,840 Speaker 4: All right, Back to happy families. Josh and Anna Douga 2215 01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:37,679 Speaker 4: are seen in the photo for the first time since 2216 01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:40,880 Speaker 4: the cheating child Unlesta went to rehab for his sex edition, 2217 01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:42,960 Speaker 4: as they celebrate that anniversary. 2218 01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:43,879 Speaker 5: Awa. 2219 01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:48,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, guys, That douggars are back, and white 2220 01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:54,560 Speaker 4: folks have never been happier, especially those like real religious 2221 01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:58,479 Speaker 4: churchy white folks. They love him. They gonna watch that 2222 01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:01,680 Speaker 4: show again. Yoshah and a Douga were photographed together for 2223 01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:04,320 Speaker 4: the first time and over a year. In a post 2224 01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:07,400 Speaker 4: on the Douggar Family's Facebook page, Happy Anniversary Josh and Anna, 2225 01:54:07,439 --> 01:54:10,799 Speaker 4: we are so thankful for God's redemptive love in your lives. 2226 01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:14,519 Speaker 4: It was a little over a year ago to Josh 2227 01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:16,800 Speaker 4: and a rehab to deal with a point addiction after 2228 01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:19,439 Speaker 4: it was discovered he had an account on the adult 2229 01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:22,320 Speaker 4: dating website Ashley Madison where most of the women are 2230 01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:27,559 Speaker 4: fake anyway, yes with a waste. He has been spotted 2231 01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:29,479 Speaker 4: more and more over the course of the past few months, 2232 01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:32,560 Speaker 4: first mini golfing with his father Jim Bob, and then 2233 01:54:32,600 --> 01:54:34,800 Speaker 4: at church and getting something to eat on Mother's Day 2234 01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:37,760 Speaker 4: with his family and wife Anna. The Duggar family posted 2235 01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:41,480 Speaker 4: photos on the Mother's Day trip to their official family website, 2236 01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:43,640 Speaker 4: but did not include any photos of Josh and his 2237 01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:46,400 Speaker 4: wife Anna. It has now been over a year since 2238 01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:48,640 Speaker 4: the public learned that Josh Mo lested five miners as 2239 01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:51,760 Speaker 4: a teenager, including four of his sisters. He was never 2240 01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:54,080 Speaker 4: tried to charge in those offenses, and law enforcement was 2241 01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:57,400 Speaker 4: never notified in any official capacity by his parents. In 2242 01:54:57,440 --> 01:54:59,720 Speaker 4: the aftermath of the scand of the family popular reality 2243 01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:04,680 Speaker 4: show was canceled by TLC. The You Know touching little 2244 01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:11,360 Speaker 4: children Cantle. The summer then ended with the news that 2245 01:55:11,480 --> 01:55:14,920 Speaker 4: Josh had an account on the adult cheating website Ashley Madison. 2246 01:55:15,200 --> 01:55:17,400 Speaker 4: And that's the one that was unforgivable y'all. By the way, 2247 01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:20,920 Speaker 4: isn't that funny? I know you did on your sisters. 2248 01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:26,720 Speaker 6: But cheating, josh Ah, I will not stand for this. 2249 01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:30,320 Speaker 4: I'm ashamed of you, mister. I will not have a 2250 01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:34,680 Speaker 4: cheater in my house. Adultery is against the commandments. Touching 2251 01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:37,040 Speaker 4: your sisters sexually molesting them, now, you can do that 2252 01:55:37,120 --> 01:55:41,960 Speaker 4: five four, five times whatever you need. But watching pornography, 2253 01:55:42,360 --> 01:55:42,960 Speaker 4: how dare you? 2254 01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:44,920 Speaker 5: Josh? 2255 01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:47,040 Speaker 4: He confessed to have an affairs in a letter in August. 2256 01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:49,000 Speaker 4: Wright and I have been the biggest hypocrite ever. While 2257 01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:51,600 Speaker 4: the spousing faith and family values, I secretly, over the 2258 01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:54,600 Speaker 4: last several years been viewing pornography on the Internet. And 2259 01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:58,640 Speaker 4: this became a secret edition and I became unfaithful to 2260 01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:01,880 Speaker 4: my wife, shamed of the double life that I've lived, 2261 01:56:01,920 --> 01:56:04,080 Speaker 4: and I'm grieving for the hurt, pain that disgrace my 2262 01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:07,400 Speaker 4: sin has caused my wife and family, and most of all, 2263 01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:12,320 Speaker 4: Jesus and all those who profess faith to him. Mm hmmm. 2264 01:56:13,240 --> 01:56:15,880 Speaker 1: But what you're gonna do about this right now? What 2265 01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:18,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna do about what you're gonna do about the Bible? 2266 01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:22,000 Speaker 1: Oh boy, what gonna are you gonna call this a bigot? 2267 01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:25,000 Speaker 1: Are you gonna call this dangerous? 2268 01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:25,320 Speaker 3: Well? 2269 01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:28,480 Speaker 1: If you do call this and me dangerous, yes, sir, 2270 01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:30,360 Speaker 1: we are dangerous. 2271 01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:37,400 Speaker 4: That's right, Josh. What would the Bible think about you? 2272 01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:38,600 Speaker 3: Hm? 2273 01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:43,960 Speaker 4: Did you think about that at any rate? That's what's 2274 01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:51,600 Speaker 4: happening with white folks. The douggers are back. Let's see 2275 01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:57,000 Speaker 4: what else happened with white people. Oh apparently in White 2276 01:56:57,000 --> 01:57:03,640 Speaker 4: People News, Michael Straighthead has reunited his Kelly ripperfeud, days 2277 01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:07,160 Speaker 4: after the network president Ben Sherwood admitted to mistakes being 2278 01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:10,840 Speaker 4: made during the live departure. And now, I was on 2279 01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:16,000 Speaker 4: top of this from day one, Okay, me, Peter Glynn 2280 01:57:16,240 --> 01:57:17,320 Speaker 4: and several other people. 2281 01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:19,080 Speaker 5: They got nasty. 2282 01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:21,760 Speaker 4: We was on top of this, or we figured out 2283 01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:25,040 Speaker 4: just through the machinations of knowing how the game works. 2284 01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:32,360 Speaker 4: But apparently they bungled his leaving, which was obvious to 2285 01:57:32,440 --> 01:57:34,880 Speaker 4: any of that. They knew that she probably would be 2286 01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:39,080 Speaker 4: very upset, and instead of telling her straight up, they 2287 01:57:39,240 --> 01:57:42,040 Speaker 4: tried to not tell her and ended up basically shocking her, 2288 01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:45,640 Speaker 4: and then she's forced to work with this guy who's 2289 01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:48,000 Speaker 4: about to leave and get a much better paying job. 2290 01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:51,600 Speaker 4: Second time that's happened to her. She's more of a 2291 01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:55,280 Speaker 4: trust issue between her and the network now, not really 2292 01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:58,480 Speaker 4: her and him right because he was also told not 2293 01:57:58,520 --> 01:58:02,360 Speaker 4: to tell her right. Executives at ABC are not happy 2294 01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:04,720 Speaker 4: with Michael Straighthan, claims the source closer the network after 2295 01:58:04,720 --> 01:58:06,920 Speaker 4: the newly appointed Good Morning America host gave it an 2296 01:58:06,920 --> 01:58:09,680 Speaker 4: interview which he reignited his few with his former Live 2297 01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:12,360 Speaker 4: co host Kelly Ripper. They were livid. The source told 2298 01:58:12,440 --> 01:58:15,400 Speaker 4: daily mail dot Com about the reaction of multiple executives 2299 01:58:15,400 --> 01:58:18,280 Speaker 4: when they read the story, things had finally calmed down, 2300 01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:20,760 Speaker 4: and then he goes and does this interview, throwing Ben 2301 01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:24,240 Speaker 4: Sherwood under the bus. Just last week, Ben Sherwood publicly 2302 01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:29,520 Speaker 4: apologized for the way Straight Hands exit was handled, telling 2303 01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:33,680 Speaker 4: the Hollywood Reporter, we made some mistakes, we fixed them quickly, 2304 01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:36,720 Speaker 4: and we moved on. A spokesperson for ABC shot down 2305 01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:38,760 Speaker 4: to claims that anyone in the network was livid, pointing 2306 01:58:38,760 --> 01:58:42,360 Speaker 4: out the Straight Hands people cover story got its own 2307 01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:45,120 Speaker 4: segment on Good Morning America Whiz that the segment did not, however, 2308 01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:49,120 Speaker 4: mention straight Hands comments about Ripper or Live mm hm. 2309 01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:53,000 Speaker 4: The source said the team at Good Morning America was 2310 01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:56,880 Speaker 4: also less than thrilled about the straight Hand story. In 2311 01:58:56,960 --> 01:58:59,840 Speaker 4: the interview, straight Hand spoke about leaving Live Last Man 2312 01:58:59,880 --> 01:59:01,800 Speaker 4: the fact that he had ripped out no longer friends 2313 01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:08,320 Speaker 4: m okay. Straighthead said it was a relationship in an 2314 01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:10,480 Speaker 4: interview with people that came out Wednesday. At one point, 2315 01:59:10,520 --> 01:59:12,360 Speaker 4: I think we were friends. I don't know what happened 2316 01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:14,880 Speaker 4: at the end. News the straight Hand's departure, and this 2317 01:59:15,560 --> 01:59:18,640 Speaker 4: past April was surrounded by drama after Ripper did not 2318 01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:20,960 Speaker 4: turn up for work today after it was announced and 2319 01:59:21,080 --> 01:59:22,760 Speaker 4: was moving to the Good that he was moving to 2320 01:59:22,840 --> 01:59:25,800 Speaker 4: Good Morning in America full time. Come September, Ripper had 2321 01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:27,680 Speaker 4: turned out of being blindsided by the news, and it 2322 01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:29,920 Speaker 4: was a week before she returned to her hosting duties. 2323 01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:32,240 Speaker 4: I wonder if anybody's ever tried to do a sitcom 2324 01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:36,360 Speaker 4: or a comedy about doing the morning TV show. I 2325 01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:39,920 Speaker 4: know Danny Tanner worked on in TV, but it was 2326 01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:42,760 Speaker 4: never really like the subject of the show. It would 2327 01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:45,760 Speaker 4: be pretty it would be a pretty cool concept for show. 2328 01:59:47,160 --> 01:59:49,360 Speaker 4: I wasn't surprised by her reaction at all. But I 2329 01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:52,720 Speaker 4: can't control somebody else's actions, he reflected. I was there 2330 01:59:52,760 --> 01:59:55,200 Speaker 4: four years, and it was more. It was about more 2331 01:59:55,240 --> 01:59:57,360 Speaker 4: than just being in front of the camera. He's forty 2332 01:59:57,360 --> 01:59:59,320 Speaker 4: four years old. He had been on live for four years, 2333 01:59:59,360 --> 02:00:00,600 Speaker 4: he added toward it the end of it all, we 2334 02:00:00,640 --> 02:00:02,640 Speaker 4: didn't communicate that much. I kind of looked at it 2335 02:00:02,760 --> 02:00:06,120 Speaker 4: like it was what it was. The show was going, Well, 2336 02:00:06,320 --> 02:00:08,280 Speaker 4: we're all winning. That's all that matters to me. The 2337 02:00:08,360 --> 02:00:12,080 Speaker 4: drama was such that straight Hand left Live earlier than 2338 02:00:12,120 --> 02:00:15,080 Speaker 4: playing at the network's request, leaving Kelly forty five to 2339 02:00:15,120 --> 02:00:16,920 Speaker 4: beginning the process of fighting a new co host. 2340 02:00:17,080 --> 02:00:17,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2341 02:00:17,320 --> 02:00:20,320 Speaker 6: Probably because she put up such a big extinct They 2342 02:00:20,440 --> 02:00:22,520 Speaker 6: was like, you know what, just go ahead and leave, 2343 02:00:22,720 --> 02:00:26,360 Speaker 6: because with all her acting funky live on the air, 2344 02:00:26,400 --> 02:00:30,360 Speaker 6: because they live asking you personal questions, did she did? 2345 02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:33,840 Speaker 6: She basically ain't got no bingness bringing up live on 2346 02:00:33,880 --> 02:00:36,560 Speaker 6: the air time about his wife and his divorce and 2347 02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:39,240 Speaker 6: all that shit. She's making it awkward for everybody. But 2348 02:00:39,280 --> 02:00:41,560 Speaker 6: like you say, that's not a problem between him and her. 2349 02:00:41,600 --> 02:00:43,160 Speaker 6: That's fuming to her and the network. 2350 02:00:43,560 --> 02:00:47,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and honestly, she was really big making it difficult. 2351 02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:49,280 Speaker 4: I don't know, and they already knew. 2352 02:00:49,280 --> 02:00:50,560 Speaker 5: That's why they was like, don't tell her. 2353 02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:54,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was pretty much untenable that situation. I mean, 2354 02:00:54,520 --> 02:00:57,640 Speaker 4: regardless of whose side you were on, quote unquote, uh, 2355 02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:01,120 Speaker 4: she was not making it easy. So you had to 2356 02:01:01,160 --> 02:01:03,560 Speaker 4: move on at some point, and everybody was starting to 2357 02:01:03,560 --> 02:01:06,600 Speaker 4: watch only to see how the beef was gonna play out. 2358 02:01:06,840 --> 02:01:11,200 Speaker 4: And that's never good for the station, you know, So 2359 02:01:11,240 --> 02:01:13,440 Speaker 4: he said, basically, he was disappointed because they're painting him 2360 02:01:13,440 --> 02:01:15,400 Speaker 4: as the bad guy. Value the way I carry myself, 2361 02:01:15,400 --> 02:01:16,880 Speaker 4: I don't want people to see me as oh he 2362 02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:19,320 Speaker 4: just ran out, just left him there. That's not me 2363 02:01:19,760 --> 02:01:22,800 Speaker 4: on their All I could do was control myself. In football, 2364 02:01:22,880 --> 02:01:25,040 Speaker 4: New York is the toughest place to play. One day, 2365 02:01:25,040 --> 02:01:27,000 Speaker 4: you're the greatest player they've ever seen. The next game, 2366 02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:29,120 Speaker 4: you're the worst. But I got older in that business 2367 02:01:29,160 --> 02:01:31,800 Speaker 4: and I said, hey, it doesn't matter what the opinion is. 2368 02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:33,280 Speaker 4: All I know is I'm doing my best and I'm 2369 02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:37,000 Speaker 4: giving it everything I have. Ripper has talked about it 2370 02:01:37,000 --> 02:01:41,080 Speaker 4: publicly except for the first episode of Live after he left, 2371 02:01:41,600 --> 02:01:43,880 Speaker 4: when guests sold Jimmy Kimmel questioned her about the room 2372 02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:50,400 Speaker 4: at feud. So I don't know at any rate. 2373 02:01:51,480 --> 02:01:53,920 Speaker 5: It was a problem, like you couldn't deny that. 2374 02:01:54,480 --> 02:01:59,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so it's interesting. Now you guys are caught 2375 02:01:59,800 --> 02:02:03,360 Speaker 4: up some white people news there. Let's go ahead and 2376 02:02:03,440 --> 02:02:08,160 Speaker 4: get into some uh guess the race, all right, guys, 2377 02:02:09,840 --> 02:02:14,160 Speaker 4: Now that is time for some guests the race. That's right, 2378 02:02:14,240 --> 02:02:18,960 Speaker 4: it's guess the race time. Now, that is time for 2379 02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:23,440 Speaker 4: some guests the race. That's right, this guest the race time. 2380 02:02:25,320 --> 02:02:29,000 Speaker 4: That's right. It's time for guests the race. The number 2381 02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:30,960 Speaker 4: one game show going across all the podcasts laying. We 2382 02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:33,160 Speaker 4: read the play news article from all over the globe, 2383 02:02:33,200 --> 02:02:36,080 Speaker 4: and we asked our contestants today caring in the chat 2384 02:02:36,160 --> 02:02:41,720 Speaker 4: room to guess the race, and everybody playing is racist? 2385 02:02:41,800 --> 02:02:42,240 Speaker 3: All right. 2386 02:02:43,680 --> 02:02:50,520 Speaker 4: A woman is uh currently in some hot water because 2387 02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:53,240 Speaker 4: she lured a man she met on Plenty of Fish 2388 02:02:53,400 --> 02:02:55,760 Speaker 4: dating app to a house where he was shot dead. 2389 02:02:55,800 --> 02:03:01,000 Speaker 4: Police say, oh, what's happened in Georgia. Police and Georgia 2390 02:03:01,040 --> 02:03:02,640 Speaker 4: suspect the woman lord of a man she met on 2391 02:03:02,680 --> 02:03:04,880 Speaker 4: a dating app to a house and had him killed. 2392 02:03:05,160 --> 02:03:09,400 Speaker 4: Authorities believe Clarissa McGhee, a twenty one year old woman 2393 02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:14,040 Speaker 4: from an Atlanta suburb of McDonough invited Jordan Collins to 2394 02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:18,560 Speaker 4: a home under the pretense of a date. According to 2395 02:03:18,600 --> 02:03:21,600 Speaker 4: the initial finances of a police investigation, McGee lord Jordan 2396 02:03:21,680 --> 02:03:23,920 Speaker 4: twenty three outside where he was gunned down and kill. 2397 02:03:24,320 --> 02:03:25,960 Speaker 4: The two are reported to up man on the app 2398 02:03:26,040 --> 02:03:30,120 Speaker 4: Plenty of Fish. What happened to just throwing him back 2399 02:03:31,600 --> 02:03:35,560 Speaker 4: in the statement an option I guess not. In statements 2400 02:03:35,560 --> 02:03:38,360 Speaker 4: to police, Chad Collins said that he and his brother 2401 02:03:38,400 --> 02:03:41,120 Speaker 4: were at home at the home of an unidentified woman 2402 02:03:41,520 --> 02:03:44,960 Speaker 4: who they said who was said to be out of town. 2403 02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:47,440 Speaker 4: At one point, Chad said that his brother, Jordan was 2404 02:03:47,960 --> 02:03:50,600 Speaker 4: asked by McGee to go outside to quiet a barking dog. 2405 02:03:51,080 --> 02:03:54,600 Speaker 4: Jordan oblige and MoMA's Later Chad heard his brother say 2406 02:03:54,720 --> 02:03:57,760 Speaker 4: chill out before a gun shot rang Shortly after, a 2407 02:03:57,840 --> 02:04:00,480 Speaker 4: Chad rushed outside to help his brother and was five 2408 02:04:00,520 --> 02:04:04,800 Speaker 4: times and then he was taken to the hospital. Investigators 2409 02:04:04,800 --> 02:04:06,440 Speaker 4: found a cell phone on the scene which led them 2410 02:04:06,440 --> 02:04:09,880 Speaker 4: to McGee, who was arrested by police on Saturday. Warns 2411 02:04:09,920 --> 02:04:12,120 Speaker 4: have been issued for the rest of four others who 2412 02:04:12,120 --> 02:04:14,760 Speaker 4: were at the house during the September first incident, so 2413 02:04:14,800 --> 02:04:18,680 Speaker 4: it's a setup. Investigators say the more details of that 2414 02:04:18,800 --> 02:04:21,160 Speaker 4: pro will be released later this week. Guess the race 2415 02:04:21,280 --> 02:04:28,440 Speaker 4: of Clarissa McGee. Also it reported three children were upstairs 2416 02:04:28,480 --> 02:04:31,360 Speaker 4: in the house when the shootings took place. They were unharmed. 2417 02:04:35,360 --> 02:04:40,720 Speaker 6: I say white because the name would have to be 2418 02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:42,680 Speaker 6: plenty of catfish for me to go black. 2419 02:04:43,000 --> 02:04:45,160 Speaker 4: All right, let's shake the chat room and see what 2420 02:04:45,240 --> 02:04:49,600 Speaker 4: they will leave. Peaches dropped a dime on him, black, 2421 02:04:50,520 --> 02:04:51,960 Speaker 4: Lena done on Caucasian? 2422 02:04:52,520 --> 02:04:52,760 Speaker 3: Dark? 2423 02:04:53,040 --> 02:04:57,320 Speaker 4: Is that peaches from my outcast my tweets? Or rig dark? Black? White? 2424 02:04:57,520 --> 02:05:03,120 Speaker 4: Plenty of fish? She figured, it's plenty of men too, sisters. No, 2425 02:05:03,280 --> 02:05:06,600 Speaker 4: it's a shortage of men, white women shooting fish in 2426 02:05:06,600 --> 02:05:13,040 Speaker 4: a barrel. Clarissa did not explain that white. Oh it 2427 02:05:13,240 --> 02:05:14,760 Speaker 4: was teachers, That's what I thought. 2428 02:05:15,040 --> 02:05:16,120 Speaker 3: Rain, Rain. 2429 02:05:17,960 --> 02:05:24,240 Speaker 4: Say hello black. The correct answer is and Karen, you 2430 02:05:24,360 --> 02:05:33,520 Speaker 4: missed it. She was black. I actually know, right, Clarissa, 2431 02:05:33,680 --> 02:05:36,960 Speaker 4: So you know what her name was. Confused, Clarisa McGee 2432 02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:40,440 Speaker 4: sounds like a made a white woman name. Anyway, some 2433 02:05:40,520 --> 02:05:47,960 Speaker 4: of you got it, And let me show you, guys 2434 02:05:48,360 --> 02:05:50,920 Speaker 4: what Clarissa McGee looks like. 2435 02:05:51,400 --> 02:05:55,960 Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, and not how funny? How many black folks 2436 02:05:56,080 --> 02:05:56,880 Speaker 5: use plenty of fish. 2437 02:05:57,760 --> 02:05:59,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there was a lot of clues to 2438 02:05:59,640 --> 02:06:03,400 Speaker 4: believe it was a white woman. I'm not You're not 2439 02:06:03,480 --> 02:06:08,800 Speaker 4: off here. I think, you know, I think the clues 2440 02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:15,440 Speaker 4: for black is Atlanta. There were three children upstairs in 2441 02:06:15,480 --> 02:06:19,120 Speaker 4: the house, you know. I think those who have been 2442 02:06:19,160 --> 02:06:20,760 Speaker 4: the clues that gave it away and it was a 2443 02:06:20,760 --> 02:06:26,640 Speaker 4: black person. A Colorado church didn't report a pastor's sex 2444 02:06:26,680 --> 02:06:33,440 Speaker 4: abuse to children because biblical counseling would suffice you guys 2445 02:06:33,480 --> 02:06:40,640 Speaker 4: know how it is. Apparently pastor Robert Wyatt repeatedly had 2446 02:06:40,680 --> 02:06:43,320 Speaker 4: sexual intercourse with a twelve year old girl who was 2447 02:06:43,360 --> 02:06:48,160 Speaker 4: a parishioner at the Agate Really Agape Bible Church in Thornton. 2448 02:06:48,560 --> 02:06:50,600 Speaker 4: Was even more disturbing about this case, however, is the 2449 02:06:50,640 --> 02:06:53,200 Speaker 4: fact that the court document show church officials knew about 2450 02:06:53,200 --> 02:06:57,600 Speaker 4: it but did nothing. According to an arrest Affidavid for Whyatt, 2451 02:06:57,640 --> 02:07:00,080 Speaker 4: both the head pastor, Darryl Ferguson, and the twelve of 2452 02:07:00,120 --> 02:07:03,080 Speaker 4: your girls adopted parents agreed that it would be best 2453 02:07:03,120 --> 02:07:05,600 Speaker 4: to not go to the police because they were concerned 2454 02:07:05,600 --> 02:07:08,880 Speaker 4: about what would happen to Waat. We don't want this 2455 02:07:08,920 --> 02:07:10,840 Speaker 4: person to go to jail. I mean Hey, he's just 2456 02:07:10,880 --> 02:07:16,240 Speaker 4: a child abuser of the lord. Abused my child, Yeah, 2457 02:07:16,280 --> 02:07:18,160 Speaker 4: I mean my adopted child. But he adopted you know 2458 02:07:18,320 --> 02:07:20,960 Speaker 4: not you know, come on, care and calm down. I 2459 02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:23,080 Speaker 4: mean we can let him abuse the adopted children, right, 2460 02:07:23,160 --> 02:07:25,320 Speaker 4: I mean, what do we we expect them? The tree 2461 02:07:25,480 --> 02:07:28,200 Speaker 4: all children like they you know, blood babies. 2462 02:07:28,200 --> 02:07:30,920 Speaker 5: Come on now as tag stepkids. 2463 02:07:31,520 --> 02:07:34,080 Speaker 4: That's how brad pick had we winded up in trouble 2464 02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:37,600 Speaker 4: instead of Affidavid claims the church and the parents agreed 2465 02:07:37,640 --> 02:07:40,959 Speaker 4: the biblical counsel will receive through the church would be sufficient. 2466 02:07:40,960 --> 02:07:43,800 Speaker 4: What the fuck is biblical counsel? Uh? Says he don't 2467 02:07:43,800 --> 02:07:48,640 Speaker 4: diddle the children yep, Chapter five, verse three. Uh. The 2468 02:07:48,640 --> 02:07:50,880 Speaker 4: alficer who interviewed the girl's adopted father said the man 2469 02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:52,800 Speaker 4: made it clear his interest was in protecting the church 2470 02:07:52,840 --> 02:07:58,320 Speaker 4: and his reputation. Want to protecting his daughter. That's gotta be. 2471 02:07:59,120 --> 02:08:01,720 Speaker 4: It's gotta feel fair, fantastic, give you that guy's child. 2472 02:08:01,880 --> 02:08:04,360 Speaker 5: Girl can't wait to get away. 2473 02:08:04,600 --> 02:08:07,919 Speaker 4: Police also learned about the pastor's abuse because another parishioner 2474 02:08:07,960 --> 02:08:10,920 Speaker 4: told him about it after being disgusted by the church's reaction. 2475 02:08:11,880 --> 02:08:17,360 Speaker 4: Uh so guess the race pastor Robert Wyatt, Karen's going 2476 02:08:17,400 --> 02:08:20,520 Speaker 4: with white, going with white for three hundred, Alex. Let's 2477 02:08:20,600 --> 02:08:23,600 Speaker 4: check the chat room and see what they believe the race, 2478 02:08:23,640 --> 02:08:29,520 Speaker 4: says a dugger bugger white crack crack crack of fluid 2479 02:08:30,160 --> 02:08:33,760 Speaker 4: crack delicious white crack Calisius. Is that what that's supposed 2480 02:08:33,800 --> 02:08:36,520 Speaker 4: to say to crack cock calis is? He don't do 2481 02:08:36,600 --> 02:08:42,560 Speaker 4: dishes he did on children's He cracked delicious Colorado cracker. 2482 02:08:43,280 --> 02:08:47,040 Speaker 4: Spare my rod, spoiled the child white as white as 2483 02:08:47,080 --> 02:08:49,959 Speaker 4: the jizz he spewed on those kids. Jesus Christ, Jesus, 2484 02:08:53,280 --> 02:08:55,560 Speaker 4: I did say last night that Trump Up trickle down 2485 02:08:55,600 --> 02:08:57,960 Speaker 4: sounds like a name for Donald Trump's jizz. So what 2486 02:08:57,960 --> 02:09:00,360 Speaker 4: what can I say? How can I judge you when 2487 02:09:00,440 --> 02:09:05,720 Speaker 4: I'm participating in it too? White, Mormon pastor white? The 2488 02:09:05,840 --> 02:09:10,320 Speaker 4: correct answer is and I think everybody gets the same shit, 2489 02:09:10,760 --> 02:09:28,880 Speaker 4: And it's right, it's white. Now some of you did, 2490 02:09:29,200 --> 02:09:33,680 Speaker 4: oh wait, is it shorting on the screen? Let me see, uh, 2491 02:09:34,840 --> 02:09:37,880 Speaker 4: hopefully it'll show you guys on the screen what I'm seeing. 2492 02:09:39,000 --> 02:09:43,880 Speaker 4: I can't really tell on my screen. Okay, cool, that's helped, y'all. 2493 02:09:44,160 --> 02:09:49,440 Speaker 4: He's the the old ditto meister. There Pastor Robert White. 2494 02:09:49,960 --> 02:09:55,120 Speaker 4: That's right, Karen, you got one right, all right, and 2495 02:09:55,280 --> 02:09:58,960 Speaker 4: we'll do one more. Let's go to the bonus round 2496 02:09:58,960 --> 02:10:12,760 Speaker 4: on this bad boy. Double up and the race doubled 2497 02:10:12,840 --> 02:10:17,120 Speaker 4: up posts and the race. That's right, double the points, 2498 02:10:17,120 --> 02:10:18,880 Speaker 4: double the race. Put a bonus round to guess the 2499 02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:21,600 Speaker 4: race so far cares one and one and most of 2500 02:10:21,600 --> 02:10:25,320 Speaker 4: you guys are too and zero. So we'll see if 2501 02:10:25,360 --> 02:10:28,840 Speaker 4: she can get catch up in the bonus round. All right, 2502 02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:34,400 Speaker 4: Let's see what happens on this one. A mother throws 2503 02:10:34,520 --> 02:10:37,400 Speaker 4: her twenty two year old sons out of the window 2504 02:10:37,960 --> 02:10:40,000 Speaker 4: during a drunken brawl with her boyfriend. 2505 02:10:40,480 --> 02:10:41,879 Speaker 5: Oh. 2506 02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:44,440 Speaker 4: A Rhode Island mother is in jail at the police 2507 02:10:44,440 --> 02:10:46,680 Speaker 4: say she heard her twin toller sons out of her 2508 02:10:46,680 --> 02:10:53,000 Speaker 4: first floor window at their apartment in Providence Sunday. Benita Barber, 2509 02:10:53,360 --> 02:10:57,400 Speaker 4: thirty seven, was a rained Monday on charges of disorderly 2510 02:10:57,440 --> 02:11:01,800 Speaker 4: conduct in the Providence District Court. She made fates additional accounts. 2511 02:11:03,080 --> 02:11:04,960 Speaker 4: How the fuck you throw two babies out of a 2512 02:11:05,000 --> 02:11:09,480 Speaker 4: window and only get this early conduct, police say, and 2513 02:11:09,480 --> 02:11:12,680 Speaker 4: Theybor reported to the State to the State Department the Children, 2514 02:11:12,760 --> 02:11:15,560 Speaker 4: Youth and Families that she saw Barbara toss both of 2515 02:11:15,560 --> 02:11:17,280 Speaker 4: the two year old boys out of a window to 2516 02:11:17,320 --> 02:11:21,680 Speaker 4: the front porch of their apartment building. The mother allegedly 2517 02:11:21,680 --> 02:11:24,160 Speaker 4: turned on the kids while arguing with her boyfriend, thirty 2518 02:11:24,160 --> 02:11:28,120 Speaker 4: seven year old Michael Watts. According to police, Watch attempted 2519 02:11:28,160 --> 02:11:31,520 Speaker 4: to push the boys back into the apartment through the 2520 02:11:31,560 --> 02:11:34,680 Speaker 4: front door, but Barbara slammed it and shut in their 2521 02:11:35,000 --> 02:11:38,160 Speaker 4: shut it in their faces, knocking down one of the twins. 2522 02:11:38,520 --> 02:11:40,640 Speaker 4: Well officers responded to the couple's home, and the rest 2523 02:11:40,680 --> 02:11:44,320 Speaker 4: report states that they found the children of pajamas crying 2524 02:11:44,320 --> 02:11:46,560 Speaker 4: in the middle of the street with their mother trying 2525 02:11:46,600 --> 02:11:49,360 Speaker 4: to get them inside their apartment, which means they probably 2526 02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:51,840 Speaker 4: had been there for a while and then she heard 2527 02:11:51,840 --> 02:11:55,240 Speaker 4: the police signs ran out there to get them. By 2528 02:11:55,280 --> 02:11:58,400 Speaker 4: the time police arrived, Watchs, who is the twins father, 2529 02:11:58,520 --> 02:12:02,080 Speaker 4: had left. They were looking at interview him Monday. You 2530 02:12:02,120 --> 02:12:05,520 Speaker 4: know what this sounds like. This sounds like a drop 2531 02:12:05,600 --> 02:12:09,440 Speaker 4: off gone wrong, Like Nick, Donna take care, take these 2532 02:12:09,520 --> 02:12:12,280 Speaker 4: kids back. You supposed to be watching them. Know these 2533 02:12:12,360 --> 02:12:14,520 Speaker 4: your kids too, And I can't. I told you I 2534 02:12:14,560 --> 02:12:16,720 Speaker 4: got to go. And then he put the kids in 2535 02:12:16,840 --> 02:12:18,480 Speaker 4: She strew them out the window like you take these 2536 02:12:18,560 --> 02:12:23,600 Speaker 4: damn kids, police said. The officers encounter and the toxicated, 2537 02:12:23,640 --> 02:12:27,600 Speaker 4: belligerent barbera who reported she who showed no remorse at 2538 02:12:27,600 --> 02:12:30,040 Speaker 4: the scenes, So I mean she was like, yes, I 2539 02:12:30,080 --> 02:12:34,360 Speaker 4: threw them kids. And some of the incident was cattured 2540 02:12:34,400 --> 02:12:36,760 Speaker 4: on cell phone video, which is turned over to authorities 2541 02:12:36,760 --> 02:12:39,800 Speaker 4: and also shared with the station ABC six. The woman's 2542 02:12:39,840 --> 02:12:43,000 Speaker 4: sons would taking the Hasborough County Hospital, where they were 2543 02:12:43,040 --> 02:12:46,080 Speaker 4: treated for scrapes and bruises and released in the custody 2544 02:12:46,200 --> 02:12:48,680 Speaker 4: of the Youth to the Department Children, Youth and Families. 2545 02:12:49,000 --> 02:12:52,160 Speaker 4: Barbara's criminal record include convictions for robbery and hypodermic needo 2546 02:12:52,200 --> 02:12:56,960 Speaker 4: and domestic felony assault. Hmmm, I wonder what the cell 2547 02:12:56,960 --> 02:13:00,760 Speaker 4: phone for. This sounds like, honey. 2548 02:13:00,520 --> 02:13:03,920 Speaker 11: Up, there's bad parenting and then there's this. 2549 02:13:03,920 --> 02:13:04,760 Speaker 5: This is ridiculous. 2550 02:13:04,800 --> 02:13:06,160 Speaker 4: You guys can do whatever, but don't through this. 2551 02:13:06,520 --> 02:13:10,160 Speaker 11: Children neighbors of thirty seven year old Banita Barber taking 2552 02:13:10,280 --> 02:13:13,800 Speaker 11: this cell phoned video twin two year olds in matching 2553 02:13:13,880 --> 02:13:17,720 Speaker 11: Pj's being ushered back into the house from their porch 2554 02:13:18,080 --> 02:13:21,480 Speaker 11: after their mother viciously threw them out the first story 2555 02:13:21,560 --> 02:13:23,560 Speaker 11: window in a drunken rage. 2556 02:13:24,080 --> 02:13:27,560 Speaker 5: That's awful, we can do. Oh my god. 2557 02:13:28,040 --> 02:13:30,720 Speaker 11: Cheryl Steinkamp lives on one of the floors of the 2558 02:13:30,720 --> 02:13:33,560 Speaker 11: triple Decker on Alverson Ave with Barber. 2559 02:13:33,880 --> 02:13:34,280 Speaker 6: I just have. 2560 02:13:36,520 --> 02:13:39,040 Speaker 11: The kids are in the hospital and Banita two of 2561 02:13:39,040 --> 02:13:42,120 Speaker 11: the kids out the window and she's in jail. According 2562 02:13:42,120 --> 02:13:46,640 Speaker 11: to police, Barber was drunk arguing with her boyfriend Sunday afternoon. 2563 02:13:47,080 --> 02:13:50,040 Speaker 11: That's when she picked up the young twins and tossed 2564 02:13:50,080 --> 02:13:52,800 Speaker 11: them out of the window. Police found the two year 2565 02:13:52,800 --> 02:13:56,560 Speaker 11: olds crying in the street with bumps, bruises and cuts. 2566 02:13:57,640 --> 02:13:58,000 Speaker 5: All right. 2567 02:14:00,280 --> 02:14:03,760 Speaker 11: Stein Camp, however, says she's known Barber her whole life 2568 02:14:03,920 --> 02:14:05,960 Speaker 11: and still believes she's a good mother. 2569 02:14:06,440 --> 02:14:10,520 Speaker 4: She's a name woman. She's at a mom all right. 2570 02:14:10,760 --> 02:14:14,800 Speaker 4: I guess the rays Karen of what was her name, 2571 02:14:16,840 --> 02:14:21,960 Speaker 4: Bonita BARBERA Kara's going black. Let's see what the Chisey 2572 02:14:22,040 --> 02:14:26,200 Speaker 4: Chisey chat room says. Bya myth from tea dog White, 2573 02:14:26,880 --> 02:14:31,560 Speaker 4: ain't no negroes in Rhode Allen's Creamy Ranch. White. The 2574 02:14:31,640 --> 02:14:35,000 Speaker 4: kids disrespected mama by calling her by her last name. 2575 02:14:37,400 --> 02:14:40,080 Speaker 4: Her neighbor still believe her abusive self can be a 2576 02:14:40,080 --> 02:14:45,280 Speaker 4: good mother. White is white with the drug is familiar. 2577 02:14:45,320 --> 02:14:48,960 Speaker 4: With the drug meth. White. Tiki's cousin. Black is hard. 2578 02:14:49,040 --> 02:14:51,720 Speaker 4: It's the hard knock life white. So almost all you 2579 02:14:51,760 --> 02:14:56,240 Speaker 4: guys went white and Karen went black. She's a nice 2580 02:14:56,240 --> 02:15:01,240 Speaker 4: white lady, says Lauren. And Karen know you're down one 2581 02:15:01,560 --> 02:15:05,280 Speaker 4: and one. Everybody else is to know. And you just 2582 02:15:05,320 --> 02:15:08,200 Speaker 4: took the motherfucking lead. She was black. 2583 02:15:12,920 --> 02:15:13,960 Speaker 5: I came back, y'all. 2584 02:15:15,960 --> 02:15:19,360 Speaker 4: That was some clutch racism there, Karen. Now, all you guys, 2585 02:15:19,400 --> 02:15:35,200 Speaker 4: I guess white. Mm hmmm, all y'all to guess white 2586 02:15:35,320 --> 02:15:35,760 Speaker 4: was wrong? 2587 02:15:36,840 --> 02:15:37,080 Speaker 3: Uh? 2588 02:15:37,200 --> 02:15:40,680 Speaker 4: Is it showing on the screen? Not yet? All right, 2589 02:15:42,760 --> 02:15:46,560 Speaker 4: I said the screen sharing, but I can't tell there. 2590 02:15:47,400 --> 02:15:51,360 Speaker 6: It just popped up a few seconds that she is, y'all, 2591 02:15:52,000 --> 02:15:53,400 Speaker 6: precious baby. 2592 02:15:53,600 --> 02:15:55,880 Speaker 4: Right, This is a picture of her, I guess before 2593 02:15:55,880 --> 02:15:59,560 Speaker 4: the babies, when they was younger and and you know, 2594 02:16:00,600 --> 02:16:03,200 Speaker 4: having hot sex and not thinking about the responsibility of 2595 02:16:03,280 --> 02:16:10,960 Speaker 4: raising twins. So yep, uh, she going to jail. Now, 2596 02:16:12,560 --> 02:16:15,840 Speaker 4: all right, let's get into the last thing that we 2597 02:16:15,880 --> 02:16:17,280 Speaker 4: always talk about, guys. 2598 02:16:17,880 --> 02:16:40,440 Speaker 10: It's time to talk about that sore ratchetess. 2599 02:16:42,120 --> 02:16:45,440 Speaker 4: A sowred wilding man attacks a neighbor and the victim 2600 02:16:45,480 --> 02:16:49,359 Speaker 4: fought back with a golf club Indianapolis police are investigating 2601 02:16:49,480 --> 02:16:51,640 Speaker 4: unusual attack on the city's north side. The home owner 2602 02:16:51,680 --> 02:16:53,959 Speaker 4: woke up Tuesday morning to find a sowred wilder neighborhood 2603 02:16:53,959 --> 02:16:57,520 Speaker 4: this front door. According to the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police, attack 2604 02:16:57,520 --> 02:17:02,320 Speaker 4: happened around eighteen and the motherfucking morning. The dispute started 2605 02:17:02,320 --> 02:17:04,440 Speaker 4: when the suspect tried to break into the neighbor's home 2606 02:17:04,560 --> 02:17:06,560 Speaker 4: arm with the sword and response to homeowner grab a 2607 02:17:06,600 --> 02:17:11,120 Speaker 4: golf club and fought the suspect off, probably teed off 2608 02:17:11,160 --> 02:17:14,000 Speaker 4: on him. When I opened the door, he said, may 2609 02:17:14,040 --> 02:17:17,080 Speaker 4: I come in, said the victim. That was the only 2610 02:17:17,120 --> 02:17:19,039 Speaker 4: thing he said. I slammed the door. He tried to 2611 02:17:19,080 --> 02:17:22,000 Speaker 4: break in. Tony says the suspect, who lives right next door, 2612 02:17:22,000 --> 02:17:23,800 Speaker 4: through some kind of heavy item and broke in his 2613 02:17:23,959 --> 02:17:27,080 Speaker 4: door while speaking incoherently. It was difficult to make out 2614 02:17:27,120 --> 02:17:28,760 Speaker 4: what he was saying, and I suspect it wouldn't have 2615 02:17:28,800 --> 02:17:31,480 Speaker 4: made much sense anyway. Police say. The suspect tried to 2616 02:17:31,480 --> 02:17:34,360 Speaker 4: slash it Tony with his sword. Tony grad a golf club, 2617 02:17:34,440 --> 02:17:37,280 Speaker 4: instruct the suspect in their head and self defense. It 2618 02:17:37,360 --> 02:17:40,160 Speaker 4: was very scary, but thank god, you're okay. Neighbor Kathy 2619 02:17:40,200 --> 02:17:43,200 Speaker 4: Wheeland said the suspect has identified as forty four year 2620 02:17:43,200 --> 02:17:48,400 Speaker 4: old Joseph Goaldunn. He does not have a previous criminal record. 2621 02:17:48,680 --> 02:17:51,640 Speaker 4: Neighbors say he works as a local physician and don't 2622 02:17:51,680 --> 02:17:55,440 Speaker 4: understand exactly why the suspect became viold shit. Don't want 2623 02:17:55,440 --> 02:17:58,240 Speaker 4: that dude working on me. Turn your head to cough 2624 02:17:58,320 --> 02:18:01,480 Speaker 4: so I can slice off your balls. Oh no, they 2625 02:18:01,520 --> 02:18:05,080 Speaker 4: don't know. But he seemed a little deranged. That was 2626 02:18:05,080 --> 02:18:07,039 Speaker 4: the word used. Maybe he was doing drugs. 2627 02:18:07,040 --> 02:18:08,279 Speaker 5: Something I'm happening. 2628 02:18:08,520 --> 02:18:11,320 Speaker 4: Police believe it's either intoxicated or suffered from a middle episode, 2629 02:18:11,320 --> 02:18:13,400 Speaker 4: and may have thought he was breaking into his own home. 2630 02:18:13,800 --> 02:18:15,760 Speaker 4: Tony says he never had a dispute with his name 2631 02:18:15,760 --> 02:18:17,640 Speaker 4: before they encounter. At no point did he say anything 2632 02:18:17,640 --> 02:18:20,000 Speaker 4: that would indicate he wanted to get me. I didn't 2633 02:18:20,000 --> 02:18:22,640 Speaker 4: even know why our house. It was really traumatic, he said. 2634 02:18:23,640 --> 02:18:25,760 Speaker 4: The homeowner suffered only a small cut to his hand. 2635 02:18:25,800 --> 02:18:28,560 Speaker 4: The suspect has been taken to the hospital to be evaluated, 2636 02:18:28,600 --> 02:18:31,080 Speaker 4: but it is a good condition. He could be facing 2637 02:18:31,080 --> 02:18:34,360 Speaker 4: a variety of criminal charges. All right, guys, we'll be 2638 02:18:34,480 --> 02:18:38,119 Speaker 4: back tomorrow to wrap up this week. We'll appreciate y'all 2639 02:18:38,400 --> 02:18:42,600 Speaker 4: enjoy Atlanta tonight because we sure will. Premium people. Boss 2640 02:18:42,600 --> 02:18:45,280 Speaker 4: Deep will be tomorrow morning, ten am. I'll send out 2641 02:18:45,320 --> 02:18:49,080 Speaker 4: the email tonight. Until then, I love you. 2642 02:18:49,640 --> 02:18:49,840 Speaker 2: Why