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Speaker 2: of course, cowboys getting ready for their bye week or
Speaker 2: getting ready for their post by a week. We could
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Speaker 2: Cowboys even get back on the practice field in a
Speaker 2: crazy week of practice, pat as you they continue to look.
Speaker 3: Forward to the Raiders.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so right now, it's it's I hate the phrasing
Speaker 6: turning the page, because that's not what they're looking to do.
Speaker 6: It's about moving forward with with Marshawn's legacy. So as
Speaker 6: it stands, it looks like they have some things to
Speaker 6: honor him in the works. A helmet sticker they're expected
Speaker 6: to wear, a helmet sticker for the remainder of the season.
Speaker 6: They're gonna, I'm told they're gonna have some T shirts
Speaker 6: that the players wear, you know, in warm ups and
Speaker 6: during the game when their uniforms and things like that.
Speaker 6: So right now, it's about the challenge of the grieving process,
Speaker 6: but also understanding that there is a game coming up
Speaker 6: on Monday and you know, hopefully go you know, go
Speaker 6: win it for Marshawn, but uh, and we'll see who
Speaker 6: is available for that game. Listening to Stephen Jones on
Speaker 6: one O five three the Fan yesterday, I left that
Speaker 6: interview with a question mark over my head for savone
Speaker 6: revel So with the Mario on overshown, sounds like, you know,
Speaker 6: poor Concrete on that sounds like he's definitely going to
Speaker 6: be back.
Speaker 3: He's right on schedule.
Speaker 6: U I liked, and Stephen Jones kind of you know,
Speaker 6: tripled down on that yesterday with one O five three
Speaker 6: the fan and I thought that he was initially lumping
Speaker 6: savone Revel into that, but then he kind of peeled
Speaker 6: off his answer for savone Revel and he said he
Speaker 6: didn't lump.
Speaker 3: He didn't lump, he didn't lump.
Speaker 6: He pealed, he pealed, and he made it appear that
Speaker 6: while there has been no setback for the phone revel,
Speaker 6: there's also no guarantee that he's active on the game
Speaker 6: day roster for Monday.
Speaker 2: Night because you have to activate him onto the roster
Speaker 2: because of the twenty one day practice when that had
Speaker 2: already been opened.
Speaker 3: Correct, the last.
Speaker 2: Day for them to do that would be when is
Speaker 2: it this Wednesday?
Speaker 3: Next Wednesday? Next Wednesday? So they could they.
Speaker 2: Still him on there one more day, one more week, right?
Speaker 3: They could? They could, They definitely could.
Speaker 6: But I mean they could also, you know, because depending
Speaker 6: on how the league mandate State handle Marshan's spot, like
Speaker 6: you mentioned, it might be a roster exemption. If there
Speaker 6: is a roster exemption, then I could see the Cowboys saying, hey,
Speaker 6: you know, it's it's not gonna We're not gonna have
Speaker 6: to release anyone if we go ahead and just activate
Speaker 6: savone Revel to the fifty three man roster right now.
Speaker 6: But again, even if they do that, it sounds like
Speaker 6: there's no guarantee that he's going to be on the
Speaker 6: game day roster come Monday night, So just something to watch.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 6: No setback has been reported. I've heard of no setback.
Speaker 6: He's still on track or you know, to make his
Speaker 6: debut after the bye. It just sounds as if, based
Speaker 6: on Steven's conversation with the fan yesterday, that while overshown
Speaker 6: is still concrete to take the field against the Raiders,
Speaker 6: it might be another week maybe before we see the
Speaker 6: debut of savone rebel.
Speaker 2: And I think as excited as I am to see
Speaker 2: savone Rebel out there and to get him back into
Speaker 2: the fold for a position group that severely needs help outside,
Speaker 2: I'm okay with taking your time here. I'm okay with
Speaker 2: making sure your third round pick that has first round upside,
Speaker 2: that has all the tangible things that you can see
Speaker 2: on a practice field, come to fruition first, without a
Speaker 2: training camp, without an entire full season of college football
Speaker 2: to play with. He only played three games last year,
Speaker 2: and he's been through this rehab process for over a
Speaker 2: calendar year. Now take your time, don't rush it back,
Speaker 2: don't mess anything up, because I think the more that
Speaker 2: you rush him back in the fold, we see things
Speaker 2: like what we've seen with Kaitlyn Carson, where he's put
Speaker 2: in some tough situations and he's put in a position group,
Speaker 2: a position group that really needs people just for bodies
Speaker 2: outside Savone Rebel. You got to develop him the right
Speaker 2: way and you got to put him in the right
Speaker 2: spot to be successful. And I think rushing him back
Speaker 2: out there if he's not entirely one without certainty. You
Speaker 2: talked about concrete, concrete, ready, take a minute on Savona
Speaker 2: Rebel and let that thing develop.
Speaker 9: I'd argue that you still want to see what Kayln
Speaker 9: Carson is capable of. I think he had a really
Speaker 9: decent game. Granted it wasn't an excellent game against the
Speaker 9: Arizona Cardinals as a whole, but he had good snaps.
Speaker 9: I mean, just wanting to see more out of him
Speaker 9: and not necessarily having to rush Savone Rebel back right away.
Speaker 9: I think it's it's a good thing to have killing
Speaker 9: Carson out there sort of on an island with a
Speaker 9: spotlight on him, just to see how he does going forward.
Speaker 3: He's kind of been.
Speaker 2: Forgotten about a little bit in this group. Well it's
Speaker 2: only in one game because he's only been back for
Speaker 2: a little bit, and he's been in and out of
Speaker 2: the lineup even since he started playing as a rookie.
Speaker 3: It I think if you can continue to.
Speaker 2: Develop him now, yeah, alongside Revel, that's two guys that
Speaker 2: you can possibly have that take a big step forward.
Speaker 2: Not to say that Kaitlyn carson ceiling is the same
Speaker 2: as of owned rebels, because I certainly don't believe that
Speaker 2: to be the case. However, Kayln Carson does have a
Speaker 2: ceiling that he has not reached.
Speaker 7: Yet, oh for sure.
Speaker 9: And I think you're hopefully with less spotlight on him
Speaker 9: now sort of in this defense because the kind of
Speaker 9: the blame is being tossed around all over the place.
Speaker 9: It's not just Seatbelt Carson that we hate nowadays, right.
Speaker 2: And that nickname came back to bite him, huh, it really.
Speaker 7: Did, it really did, and you know for a good reason.
Speaker 9: When you had that expectation, you know, when everyone's going
Speaker 9: into the season, then of course that draft was like, oh,
Speaker 9: Seatbelt Carson, it's going to you know, he.
Speaker 2: Was great in training camp, Yeah, see him just with
Speaker 2: it the whole time.
Speaker 9: But now we know, you know, look at the Kyrilums
Speaker 9: of the world. I mean, trading camp doesn't necessarily show
Speaker 9: how you're going to perform through the rest of.
Speaker 3: The difference being Kaitlyn Carson, he's year two, I mean.
Speaker 6: He's yeah, no, absolutely, give him a little Yeah, he's
Speaker 6: got time to kind of bounce back and make that
Speaker 6: the seatbelt names Dick.
Speaker 9: And that's why I liked his performance in the Cardinals
Speaker 9: game and hopefully seeing him going forward now that he's
Speaker 9: healthy one hundred percent. I really want to see what
Speaker 9: he's able to do and if you're not bringing back
Speaker 9: so in revel right away, I want to see the
Speaker 9: spotlight sort of on agree.
Speaker 6: On killing agree and kind of keeping to the secondary
Speaker 6: for the news and notes. Stephen Jones also told one
Speaker 6: on five three the Fan he threw a name out
Speaker 6: there that I wasn't anticipating he threw out there as
Speaker 6: far as likely, I'll say likely based on his tone
Speaker 6: being ready for the Raiders, which was Millie Cooker. Oh yeah,
Speaker 6: so I wasn't. I wasn't expecting that he threw Willie
Speaker 6: Cooker's name out there as far.
Speaker 3: As still on IR and they haven't activated, they haven't
Speaker 3: acted that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, So I personally I don't I don't see
Speaker 6: that happening. But again, he clearly knows something that we
Speaker 6: don't know that made him feel so confident that he
Speaker 6: said Malie Cooker's name in the same breath as you
Speaker 6: know Demarrion Overshown and guys that are coming back from
Speaker 6: injury and how you know those most of those guys
Speaker 6: are on the defensive side of the ball. So it'll
Speaker 6: be interesting because this safety unit most certainly needs help.
Speaker 6: And we know that Malik Hooker was not playing his
Speaker 6: best football even before the toe injury, and most certainly
Speaker 6: not as he tried to battle through the toe injury.
Speaker 6: So you can only hope that when Malik Hooker gets
Speaker 6: back on the field, you see the Malik that we
Speaker 6: saw in training camp, because that was that was peak
Speaker 6: Malik that we were seeing in training camp, peak Malik.
Speaker 2: Even the first game of the year, he played so
Speaker 2: well against the Eagles that I think it showed that
Speaker 2: he could continue that in a game.
Speaker 6: That's what you need when you get Molie Hooker back,
Speaker 6: especially for a safety unit that's just been so ravaged
Speaker 6: by injury and just not being able to figure things
Speaker 6: out even before they were ravaged by injury. You know,
Speaker 6: a part of that goes to the coaching on the
Speaker 6: defensive side of the ball, you know, guys not being
Speaker 6: utilized in ways that we believe they should be Hi donno.
Speaker 6: So in that capacity you get Molik Cooker back. I
Speaker 6: don't know that it happens this week. It sounds like
Speaker 6: Stephen Jones is kind of bearish on it, which you
Speaker 6: know we'll see. You know, I'm bullish on it because again,
Speaker 6: like you said, he's not return the press this ship.
Speaker 3: Last time we saw Malie Cooker.
Speaker 6: He was still off to the side with the rehab
Speaker 6: group doing work with Britt Brown and those in those.
Speaker 7: Trainers, so we've only seen him for a short time.
Speaker 3: Pete.
Speaker 6: Now, I will say this, it is a peak, Yeah, peak.
Speaker 6: Why'd you cover one of smooth so I could? I
Speaker 6: don't ever want to take my off this guy, like
Speaker 6: you can't this guy too fast. He's handsome, squidward hand squwd.
Speaker 6: I will say this though. They are coming off of
Speaker 6: a bye week, so you know, we weren't able during
Speaker 6: the bye week to we weren't able to doing the
Speaker 6: bye week to see Mollie Cooker do any rehab, so
Speaker 6: I mean, but but of course the rehab continued during
Speaker 6: the bye week, so maybe he made some serious strides. Yeah,
Speaker 6: just take big Yeah, maybe we took some serious strides
Speaker 6: in this. This two weeks off that you know, kind
Speaker 6: of pushes him towards why Stephen Jones kind of feels
Speaker 6: confident there's a good chance that he comes back. So,
Speaker 6: I mean, so there you go with the news and notes.
Speaker 6: There's at least a chance, a solid chance, that Malie
Speaker 6: Cooker comes back this week.
Speaker 3: There's a.
Speaker 6: As certain as certainty can be that, barring anything happening
Speaker 6: this week, de Marveo on Overshown will return. Uh, and
Speaker 6: we'll keep an eye on savone revel. He does have
Speaker 6: a solid chance, but it's just not as certain as
Speaker 6: we were led to believe before the bye week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. I was talking with Nick Eatman yesterday
Speaker 2: upstairs and we were kind of brainstorming ideas for the
Speaker 2: High five article that I write late in the week,
Speaker 2: and we were talking about guys coming back, and it
Speaker 2: was like, okay, let's start on the offensive side. Offense
Speaker 2: is pretty healthy. You feel pretty good about the offense
Speaker 2: as a whole, and I mentioned that yesterday with the
Speaker 2: offensive line.
Speaker 3: You're right now, you're complete on the offensive line.
Speaker 9: Then you look, Kevin had a lot of reps together,
Speaker 9: but you want to see them improve in that aspect
Speaker 9: and have more chemistry going for.
Speaker 3: One thousand percent.
Speaker 2: And I think you'll start seeing that with an extra
Speaker 2: week of rest, extra week of health. And then you
Speaker 2: turn around and you play a team like the Raiders
Speaker 2: on Monday Night football to try and prove that you're
Speaker 2: moving in the right direction, and then just the Eagles
Speaker 2: right after, and then yeah, then you get into the gauntlet,
Speaker 2: which we'll talk about here in a second. But as
Speaker 2: we were brainstorming, we kind of both realized there're gonna
Speaker 2: be five new faces. There's a good shot there are
Speaker 2: five new faces on the defensive side. Of course, the
Speaker 2: trade acquisitions of Logan Wilson and Quinn Williams, which I
Speaker 2: mean Quinn Williams is an absolute game changer that's gonna continue,
Speaker 2: That's gonna one thousand percent up in the entire look
Speaker 2: of the defense just with his presence. Then you add
Speaker 2: some some depth at linebacker with Logan Wilson, you get
Speaker 2: possibly one of the safeties back, either Donno or Malie Hooker.
Speaker 2: It sounds like Hooker's moving in the right direction. There,
Speaker 2: you get savone revel back, and then hopefully you get
Speaker 2: or excuse me, you will get to Marvin Overshown back.
Speaker 2: Hopefully you get savone revel back. So five guys Williams, Wilson,
Speaker 2: Revel Overshown, Hooker, and then maybe Donno if you end
Speaker 2: up getting him back or wherever he ends up being too.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a different look defense.
Speaker 3: It looks completely different.
Speaker 2: That's half of your starting lineup that's completely up ended.
Speaker 2: Not that everybody's going to be a starter there, but
Speaker 2: they all could be. They very well could be. Most
Speaker 2: of them could be. And so with all that being said,
Speaker 2: question mark, I think not to say that this defense
Speaker 2: is going to be world beaters now, but what have
Speaker 2: we said.
Speaker 3: This entire season is you got to just be serviceable.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we're talking about the earlier this season, Week two,
Speaker 9: I think it was talking about Green Bay being world
Speaker 9: beaters and they mustered up seven points.
Speaker 3: Zero for most of the game. That was an ugly game.
Speaker 7: I love it.
Speaker 3: I loved it.
Speaker 9: It was premium watch football, especially if you're a Cowboys
Speaker 9: fan it was. It was brutal, but I mean I
Speaker 9: love the defensive aspect of it.
Speaker 3: Man back and forth, the cake just flying.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but it was fun to watch Man just see
Speaker 7: them both flailing around.
Speaker 2: Hate hate stuff with both of those teams. I wish
Speaker 2: they could have ended in a tie to.
Speaker 3: Zero time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like ended up seven seven or something like that
Speaker 2: down the stretch would have been great.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: Speaking of the schedule that's at hand, and speaking of
Speaker 2: what the Cowboys have in front of them, I have
Speaker 2: it on the rundown today that we kind of take
Speaker 2: a roadmap through what it would take for Dallas to
Speaker 2: make the playoffs. And the more that I look at
Speaker 2: this roadmap, the more it's almost like we're in Lord
Speaker 2: of the Rings. We're trying to get Yeah, it's a
Speaker 2: mortor we're trying to make it there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly like I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, is it, Paul, I don't know. Beams not here,
Speaker 2: I'll be Era one. There you go again, we go,
Speaker 2: Handsome Squire, handsome the Uh. But yeah, it's it's rough,
Speaker 2: and you need how many wins you get with playoffs?
Speaker 2: You probably need to be double digits, right, double digits.
Speaker 3: In a tie? Yeah, ten six and eight. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't think so, I don't see it.
Speaker 2: I don't see it, So I don't know how do
Speaker 2: you get to that point based on the schedule? Sorry, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I want to see where the conference is at.
Speaker 6: But you go ahead, Patrick, No, I mean I'm pulling
Speaker 6: that up as well on my screen. And when you
Speaker 6: look at so the Eagles move to seven and two, yep.
Speaker 6: The Seahawks are absolutely cooking as well. They're at seven
Speaker 6: and two. Then you got Detroit at six and three.
Speaker 6: We know they can just blow the doors off of
Speaker 6: any opponent on any given game day. Tampa, now we're
Speaker 6: talking division winners. Okay, So Tampa, I think they take
Speaker 6: their division. Rams seven and two, I think they take
Speaker 6: their division. Can't believe I'm saying this, But I mean
Speaker 6: Chicago versus Green Bay, that's kind of where you kind
Speaker 6: of that's your sweet spot, one of those guys you're
Speaker 6: gonna have to overtake. Unfortunately, you lost the one and
Speaker 6: you tied to the other, so Chicago has the tiebreaker
Speaker 6: on you for the wildcard spot. You would love to
Speaker 6: be if it's between those two teams, you would love
Speaker 6: it to be you versus Green Bay. As far as
Speaker 6: tiebreakers are concerned because it's a tie, like you have
Speaker 6: a tie that needs to mathematically be figured out. So
Speaker 6: then it goes to like strength of schedule, strength of opponent,
Speaker 6: it things like that.
Speaker 8: You need.
Speaker 6: Either the Bears or the Packers to just start falling backwards. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you need one of those who start falling backwards.
Speaker 2: I think the Rams are forty nine.
Speaker 6: I think the forty nine Ers are any I think
Speaker 6: they're starting to fall backwards.
Speaker 2: You need you need one team out of the NFC
Speaker 2: North and one team out of the NFC West to
Speaker 2: just start falling off.
Speaker 7: Yeah, one more injury for the Niners. They're gonna need
Speaker 7: the water.
Speaker 3: That's what I mean. I think, like, I think they're
Speaker 3: starting the process of falling back.
Speaker 2: Think I say I got a call from them this week.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, yeah, that would make sense. I would like
Speaker 9: I would love to see that.
Speaker 8: Isaiah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, forty uniform.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, he still got it.
Speaker 3: Man, he won't do it.
Speaker 6: He won't between Cowboys and Seattle. You think he's gonna
Speaker 6: pu he just I don't know. Richard Sherman did put
Speaker 6: on that he literally.
Speaker 7: Just had back back surgery. Yeah, but I'm like, he's
Speaker 7: strong isn't he.
Speaker 6: Free money signing go to So yeah, your sweet spot
Speaker 6: is hoping that Chicago Bay San Francisco start moving backward
Speaker 6: in that Carolina doesn't suddenly try to get hot because
Speaker 6: they had a little bit of a streak. They didn't
Speaker 6: before they started kind of cool here recently. So yeah,
Speaker 6: that those are going to be the four teams that
Speaker 6: you're really looking at, Chicago, Green Bay, San Francisco, and
Speaker 6: out sath Carolina. I don't have confidence in Minnesota. I
Speaker 6: think there are any given week kind of team. I
Speaker 6: don't think they're a playoff team.
Speaker 9: Though I don't really see it, man. I mean, granted,
Speaker 9: I don't want to like absolutely.
Speaker 7: Derail the show.
Speaker 3: You need so much help.
Speaker 9: You need so much help, and you haven't helped yourself.
Speaker 9: You have three wins against teams that are not very good.
Speaker 9: But I think we, like we've talked about, I'm glad
Speaker 9: that the team is getting better, Like you just said,
Speaker 9: you're gonna have five new defensive faces on the team,
Speaker 9: and they're gonna trend in the right direction, absolutely, and
Speaker 9: they're gonna go on a run here. I definitely feel
Speaker 9: that way, but I don't know if it's going to
Speaker 9: be enough.
Speaker 2: It's gonna have to be God. Yeah, you're gonna have
Speaker 2: to go like, what is it, eight and one down
Speaker 2: the stretch to even give yourself a shot.
Speaker 3: But I do think the second wins.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I do think the second half twenty twenty five
Speaker 9: season of the Dallas cop is going.
Speaker 7: To be much better than the first half of the season.
Speaker 3: I hope so.
Speaker 7: But I just think you've set yourself back so much.
Speaker 9: And you know, even Patrick was talking about that, if
Speaker 9: you take that loss against the Cardinals, yes, just the one,
Speaker 9: your chances are at, you know, making the playoffs for
Speaker 9: what eleven percent?
Speaker 3: Now you needed that.
Speaker 2: I'm shock, Yeah, it's even that high. Like I'm shocked
Speaker 2: eleven percent.
Speaker 3: Even I do feel like and I feel like I
Speaker 3: know where Josh is going with this.
Speaker 6: You're going to sit, You're likely going to sit at
Speaker 6: the end of the season, and you're going to probably
Speaker 6: probably see the Cowboys go on some kind of a
Speaker 6: run and it's going to give you so much hope.
Speaker 6: And when it's all set and done in the smoke clears,
Speaker 6: there's a more than solid chance that they're on the
Speaker 6: outside looking in.
Speaker 3: Yep, because they lost to the Cardinals. Yeah, yep.
Speaker 7: That's going to be the one and the Bears.
Speaker 6: I don't know if I can say the Bears, because
Speaker 6: it looks like the Bears are trending toward the playoffs
Speaker 6: and they.
Speaker 3: Kind of kicked your teeth in.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know absolutely.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, Panthers are trending up.
Speaker 6: All losses are in my eyes, all losses are are
Speaker 6: unforgivable if you competitive. But when you look at the Bears,
Speaker 6: it stings a little bit less because hey, it's like
Speaker 6: they're they're turning towards then to finish and they're they're
Speaker 6: lighting up the scoreboard here recently, like what was going
Speaker 6: on with the Bears. But the Cardinals were just so
Speaker 6: inept and you made them look like world beaters. Yeah,
Speaker 6: they were down very next week, they went back out
Speaker 6: and looked even more and did before.
Speaker 2: They were thirty eight to seven and halftime that that
Speaker 2: that isn't very good.
Speaker 6: That's what and we lost it. Yeah, that's what the
Speaker 6: Cantablar is supposed to do to a to a bad team.
Speaker 6: They're supposed to kick their teeth. So Seattle did they
Speaker 6: showed the Cowboys what to do. Cowboys didn't do it.
Speaker 6: I just feel like that Cardinals game is going to.
Speaker 3: Be the one.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be the It's going to be the one.
Speaker 3: It's going to ghost. It's it's it's right here, it's
Speaker 3: the ghost.
Speaker 6: So you're gonna I don't know, you've you have so
Speaker 6: many mistakes that you made in the first half, so
Speaker 6: much to clean up. Might just be a little bit
Speaker 6: too much spilt milk to Mapu.
Speaker 3: I think so.
Speaker 9: But as long as this team gets better, I'm happy
Speaker 9: to see that. In terms of like the future of
Speaker 9: this team. I mean, like I said, I think the
Speaker 9: twenty twenty five season is what it is. I think
Speaker 9: you've done enough damage to yourself now at this point
Speaker 9: that it's really really hard, Like we said, eleven percent
Speaker 9: chance for you to make the playoffs at this point.
Speaker 9: But the pieces that you've added I think will make
Speaker 9: you guys better and speak well for the future.
Speaker 6: And I'll say this and shouts out to Melvin, I
Speaker 6: see the thing is no, I mean I'm not saying
Speaker 6: that sarcastically. So, I mean he's he's making good points
Speaker 6: in the chat. So is so are a lot of
Speaker 6: other people. So good great engagement, great conversation, guys, ladies
Speaker 6: and gentlemen, I want to be clear that I'm not
Speaker 6: saying the Cowboys will go on a run. I'm saying
Speaker 6: if they want to shot at the playoffs, they have
Speaker 6: no choice but to try to go.
Speaker 2: On to run.
Speaker 6: Now, if you're asking me, if you say no, see,
Speaker 6: what are the odds that they're making that run.
Speaker 3: In GB Yeah? Not good. Yeah. I want to say
Speaker 3: they're going to.
Speaker 6: Kick the Raiders' teeth in, especially with the new addition
Speaker 6: and the returns we're talking about.
Speaker 3: Logic says you will, But I'm.
Speaker 6: Kind of scarred by, you know, taking over time to
Speaker 6: beat the Giants and then losing to the Bears and
Speaker 6: the fashion you did before the Bears even knew who
Speaker 6: they were, and then you know, you lose to the
Speaker 6: Cardinals twenty seven to seventeen.
Speaker 7: So I just, I don't know, then made you look
Speaker 7: silly right there.
Speaker 6: Now, even if you handle the Raiders, you got the Eagles,
Speaker 6: you got the Chiefs, you got the Lions, that three
Speaker 6: game stretch right there, I think tears your run to shreds.
Speaker 6: Let's say you split with the Eagles, great, you then
Speaker 6: need to get a two game win streak going against
Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, and then you
Speaker 6: need to get a three game win streak going in
Speaker 6: Detroit against the Lions before you can then look at
Speaker 6: the Vikings and say, Okay, this is not a breather game,
Speaker 6: but as compared to the previous three opponents, kind of
Speaker 6: a breather game. That three game stretch is where the
Speaker 6: season lies.
Speaker 7: Let me ask you guys a question really quick though.
Speaker 9: Monday night, you guys destroy the Raiders. Let's say it's
Speaker 9: very convincing, defense, looks brand awesome.
Speaker 7: Yeah right, How does that impact your feeling going forward?
Speaker 9: Because I wouldn't say that's a great barometer how you're
Speaker 9: going to play against the like we just said, the Eagles,
Speaker 9: the Chiefs, and the Lion.
Speaker 2: I think it would feel a lot like the fools
Speaker 2: gold that was in Week five when Dallas dismantled the Jets.
Speaker 2: That's kind of where I would feel is so you
Speaker 2: wouldn't trust it, No, not not quite.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: If you turn around and you win another game, I
Speaker 2: mean who they have first out of that run, it's
Speaker 2: Philade Eagles. You turn around and look at you beat
Speaker 2: Philadelphia at home and you you look good in that
Speaker 2: game too, then we can start talking about this being.
Speaker 7: You beat the Eagles very convincingly, It's like, all right.
Speaker 3: Then we can make something of that.
Speaker 9: But then again, that's a that's a that's a team
Speaker 9: you tend to split against, right, that's a team that
Speaker 9: you play pretty well. And granted, you know, the first
Speaker 9: game of the season. I mean, you've had a chance
Speaker 9: to beat them. So I don't even know if I
Speaker 9: would take that into account.
Speaker 3: You know what, you should also take into account that
Speaker 3: team is seven and two.
Speaker 2: I think I would take it into it.
Speaker 9: Again, it's a it's a team that you tend to
Speaker 9: split with rivalry. I would I wouldn't beat down against
Speaker 9: the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: If you beat down the Raiders and you turn around,
Speaker 2: you you beat the Eagles. Even if it's a tight game,
Speaker 2: I think I would start saying, all right, maybe this worked,
Speaker 2: maybe this maybe.
Speaker 3: I would love all three.
Speaker 2: They'll get me wrong, but I think my my optimism
Speaker 2: would start kicking in after the Eagles.
Speaker 6: I would say, you would have to for my optimism
Speaker 6: to start kicking in, you would not only have to
Speaker 6: kick the Raiders into oblivion, but I would need you
Speaker 6: to do more than simply defeat the Eagles. It would
Speaker 6: have to be a statement win like I mean, convinced
Speaker 6: the game, you know, leave no doubt, not like remember
Speaker 6: the Titans, not like Packers Eagles last night.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, no, not that game. That's not going to
Speaker 3: do it for me.
Speaker 2: But it's in seven games.
Speaker 6: What I will say is, folks need to keep in
Speaker 6: mind of everything we're talking about. There's an added hidden challenge,
Speaker 6: hidden difficulty here for the Cowboys, and that is side
Speaker 6: the dates.
Speaker 3: There's a side question. That's the dates that.
Speaker 6: These games are being played on. Oh man, Okay, all
Speaker 6: of the difficulty that we're talking about. As far as
Speaker 6: you know, you hope you went against the Raiders, but
Speaker 6: then you got Eagles, you got Chiefs, you got Lions.
Speaker 6: Well let's look at this Monday night football, and then
Speaker 6: you got Sunday. So that's a short week and an
Speaker 6: even shorter week thereafter because they play on Thanksgiving four
Speaker 6: days later against the Chiefs. After you play the Eagles,
Speaker 6: which is a very physical team that you're going to
Speaker 6: take some bumps and bruises there, and you don't have
Speaker 6: time to recover before Patrick Mahomes comes back to Texas.
Speaker 6: This is what I mean when I say, and by
Speaker 6: the way, you know, you don't get a many bye
Speaker 6: after that, because well you got Detroit December forth with
Speaker 6: that Sunday Thursday seven, so you don't get the benefit
Speaker 6: of the many bye after that.
Speaker 2: Then after Detroit.
Speaker 6: Sunday Thursday Thursday before you get the extra couple days
Speaker 6: to prepare for you know, the Minnesota Viking.
Speaker 3: So it's NGB. Yeah, yeah B. That's what I mean
Speaker 3: when I say this.
Speaker 9: Is where we're talking about getting your business done and
Speaker 9: out of the way before this gauntlet that you have
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Speaker 6: Might be a little bit too much spilt mealk to
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Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 8: John? Hey, how you guys doing today?
Speaker 3: Doing great? Thanks for calling.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's good to be on with you again. I
Speaker 8: hadn't talked to you, said last year when I had
Speaker 8: a few words of wisdom for you about the commander. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: But anyway, I just wanted to, uh, just a couple
Speaker 8: questions and a couple of comments and then I'll hang up.
Speaker 8: First of all, Brian Schottenheimer seems to be getting a
Speaker 8: lot of grace.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 8: We talked about Ebercluse a lot, which he is terrible,
Speaker 8: but uh, this Schottenheimer, I don't see so much great
Speaker 8: on his side. I mean, I know the offense started
Speaker 8: out pretty good, but uh, he started out talking about
Speaker 8: seven irons and drivers. I think he's down to his
Speaker 8: pitching wedge as far as I can turn. So maybe
Speaker 8: we off looked at doing what I said last year.
Speaker 8: Maybe we need to do whatever it tastes to get
Speaker 8: Kyle Shanahan down there so we have some real football
Speaker 8: played in Dallas once again.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 8: Secondly, what's what's the deal with Butler? He was playing
Speaker 8: great last year before he tore his ACL. I understand
Speaker 8: he's back healthy, better than anything we've got out there currently,
Speaker 8: for sure. I mean, I hate to say it, as
Speaker 8: you don't know. If you remember I talked about Andrew
Speaker 8: Boots last year, Ben, I mean he looked he would
Speaker 8: look good. This secondary so bad and I can't even
Speaker 8: believe I said that. And finally, if you guys could
Speaker 8: just give my man Isaiah a message about Trey Lance.
Speaker 8: I told you he couldn't play last year in that
Speaker 8: Commanders game. He couldn't even hit a wide open. The
Speaker 8: guy that went on down to Carolina, he couldn't even
Speaker 8: hit him. Rico, he couldn't even hit him wide open.
Speaker 8: The ends on her were to beat them last year
Speaker 8: with our four stringers, and finally I bought my man
Speaker 8: Voce Lombardy. I see him on the break. I don't
Speaker 8: think he's always bad mouth. And Mike McCarthy, this is
Speaker 8: a quick reminder. He's the only coach in the last
Speaker 8: twenty years went twelve and five three consecutive years, and
Speaker 8: the playoffs do matter. Thank you guys for listening. I
Speaker 8: hope you have a great day.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: A lot to impact there and lots of points, certainly
Speaker 2: in that regard. I'll start with that pitch. The criticism
Speaker 2: of Lian Schottenheimer. That was the first thing that stock
Speaker 2: out to me is I think there's fair criticism from
Speaker 2: a play calling standpoint.
Speaker 3: I think he said it.
Speaker 2: This offense started hot, they were rolling in the right direction,
Speaker 2: they were kicking on all cylinders and putting up points.
Speaker 2: Even if they were in losing efforts, they were still
Speaker 2: having success. And then over the last two games Denver
Speaker 2: followed by Arizona, the offense has just been inept at times,
Speaker 2: and I think part of that is play calling.
Speaker 3: Part of that is execution.
Speaker 2: And I'd said it yesterday on the offensive line, I
Speaker 2: think the offensive line's got to play better. But what
Speaker 2: do you think about the I think we've seen more
Speaker 2: than a seven iron. I think we've seen the driver
Speaker 2: a couple times. But down to the pitching wedge. Do
Speaker 2: you think that's the case for coach Schottenheimer?
Speaker 7: Why would you use baseball analogy than me, dude, we're
Speaker 7: talking about.
Speaker 2: Baseball because I said.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 9: I mean, I think there's fair criticism for Brian Schottenheimer's
Speaker 9: as a play caller. I talked about it last week,
Speaker 9: especially after the Cardinals game. When you're you know, what,
Speaker 9: is it first and golf or is it second or third?
Speaker 7: Whatever it was.
Speaker 9: You're at the four yard line and you're running so
Speaker 9: well and or Rico Daddle excuse me, exqueeze me, Jamanty
Speaker 9: Williams is playing is a off and you choose.
Speaker 7: To throw the ball four yards out twice in a row.
Speaker 3: That was a choice.
Speaker 7: That was a choice from Brian Schottenheimer.
Speaker 9: But I think he's sort of at least the offensive
Speaker 9: line getting in a groove. I think the more confidence
Speaker 9: that he has the offensive line going forward, once they
Speaker 9: have more chemistry taking more snaps together, I think he's
Speaker 9: going to be a little more consistent and reliant on
Speaker 9: the run when he believes in it a little bit more.
Speaker 9: But at least for me, I think it's a fair
Speaker 9: criticized where Broton Chimer's out, Brighton Schottenheimer's out right now,
Speaker 9: But I don't think you criticize the fact that he
Speaker 9: is a leader for sure.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, And I do agree with the criticism because
Speaker 6: this Allen has stalled lately, And but then when you
Speaker 6: look at the totality of why they they're installed, it's
Speaker 6: a combination of questionable play calls from Schottenheimer. But then
Speaker 6: when they're great play calls or play calls that would
Speaker 6: produce chunk yardage, you're not getting protection up front, you
Speaker 6: can't get the run game going. You got you know,
Speaker 6: self inflicted wounds that I mean, Brian Schottenheimer is not
Speaker 6: the one telling you to fall start right. Yeah, he's
Speaker 6: not the one telling you to hold a guy right.
Speaker 6: So you know that accountability lies on the players as well.
Speaker 6: So but I've seen enough so far from Brian Schottenheimer
Speaker 6: over the first several games to believe that. I mean,
Speaker 6: I don't think he's all the way down to a
Speaker 6: pitching uh. I can't get old because that was a bar.
Speaker 6: I think he'll start pulling the driver back out. But
Speaker 6: it starts with and I agree with Josh here, it
Speaker 6: starts with having trust in your offensive line that they're
Speaker 6: going to re solidify and be able to, you know,
Speaker 6: control the game. Because if they don't control the game,
Speaker 6: then you're going to see Brian Schottenheimer try to call
Speaker 6: plays that are that he otherwise wouldn't because he lacks
Speaker 6: that trust in that moment of the offensive line. So
Speaker 6: one thing begets the other offensive line starts playing well again,
Speaker 6: It begets the trust on that side from Brian Schottenheimer,
Speaker 6: which then begets you know, him being more confident in
Speaker 6: calling plays that trust that offensive line, and then that
Speaker 6: involves going downfield more. That also involves running the ball more.
Speaker 6: With Javonte Williams, So I think it starts in the trenches.
Speaker 6: But I am in no way, shape or form saying
Speaker 6: that Brian Schottenheimer escapes accountability because he absolutely does not.
Speaker 3: As the leader of this team.
Speaker 6: As far as Mike McCarthy goes, credit the McCarthy for
Speaker 6: having those three twelve and five seasons. That is not
Speaker 6: easy to do, especially with the spotlight of Dallas hovering
Speaker 6: above you. But at the end of the day, the
Speaker 6: playoff success was not there, so you got to keep
Speaker 6: that in mind as well. But you're probably you know,
Speaker 6: all you Mike McCarthy fans that still exist, and I
Speaker 6: get it. I mean, he's one of the best coaches
Speaker 6: in NFL history. It just couldn't make it work here
Speaker 6: in Dallas. You'll probably get your fixed when he's coaching
Speaker 6: the Giants. Prediction, Wow, you did, I think McCarthy to
Speaker 6: the Giants.
Speaker 7: It took a year off for a reason.
Speaker 3: I've been saying that the whole time.
Speaker 6: Took a year off to let time, you know, fade
Speaker 6: the picture in people's minds as far as all that
Speaker 6: he was unable to do in Dallas.
Speaker 3: And you know, here we go, the Giants.
Speaker 2: We had a lot of conversations about Mike McCarthy at
Speaker 2: the end of the year. I'll just stick to what
Speaker 2: we talked about back then, you know, whenever that was,
Speaker 2: whenever that decision was looming whether or not to bring
Speaker 2: him back. I'll kind of keep it to that all right,
Speaker 2: Mike in New York is our next collar. What's going on?
Speaker 11: Mike's going on for most of my prayers kneeling. Obviously
Speaker 11: I'm a that hard cowboys. Then you guys know that
Speaker 11: and it listen your shirt yesterday it was arf breaking. Obviously,
Speaker 11: it's you know, tragedy is part of being a bigger
Speaker 11: than football. As we talk, you know, you guys made
Speaker 11: it clear and stuff. But yeah, it's just my thoughts
Speaker 11: and pressure, you know, for order or organizations. I'm hoping
Speaker 11: that our defense improves with the you know, the Williams
Speaker 11: and the guys that we added on defense. I feel
Speaker 11: like it's can't you know, should be should be better?
Speaker 11: I mean it's you know, hopefully I think I feel
Speaker 11: like what we did on defense that definitely got better.
Speaker 11: So hopefully we'll see.
Speaker 2: So I appreciate you Mike as always. And yeah, of course, yeah,
Speaker 2: I meant to say this at the beginning of the show.
Speaker 2: But for all those that kind of sent us messages
Speaker 2: and support yesterday. We got a lot of Twitter dms
Speaker 2: and mentions and things like that about the support from yesterday.
Speaker 2: Show appreciated that was that was four guys talking real,
Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, it was. It was heartbreak it certainly,
Speaker 2: and it still is to today. But uh, we appreciate
Speaker 2: you being patient with us through yesterday show and a
Speaker 2: lot of emotion that was flying around the building yesterday.
Speaker 7: Some things are bigger than football though.
Speaker 2: Man absolutely, absolutely, Uh, Mike talking about the turn of
Speaker 2: five new faces on the defensive side of the football,
Speaker 2: A couple from the trades, couple from the back end
Speaker 2: of injury rehab and things like that.
Speaker 3: Which one are you most excited about?
Speaker 2: Because I know all year long Patrick's been all over
Speaker 2: this to Marvin overshown train. But can the trade of
Speaker 2: Quinn and Williams up in the excitement of what the
Speaker 2: Marvin Overshown brings.
Speaker 6: I don't know that it can upend it, but I
Speaker 6: think that those trains are neck and neck.
Speaker 2: Man, Oh, you can't do that on tracks. You know
Speaker 2: it's not allowed.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 2: The Federal Railroad Commission doesn't allow it. Okay, then yes
Speaker 2: you can pass each other.
Speaker 6: Then yes, for the sake for the sake of the
Speaker 6: point that you're trying to make as a moderator, then yes,
Speaker 6: I do think that narrowly Quinn williams Is acquisition could
Speaker 6: edge out the return of the Marvion Overshown. But I
Speaker 6: mean I say that to say, how exciting can this
Speaker 6: Raiders game be. I mean, obviously, we're going to honor
Speaker 6: Marshawn and we're going to continue to honor Marshaan. But
Speaker 6: inside of that, you know, to Marion Overshown, the fan base,
Speaker 6: including myself, we've been salivating at the thought of this
Speaker 6: this young man getting back on the field and hopefully
Speaker 6: remaining healthy in what he can do for this defense.
Speaker 6: But at the same time, we sat here and we said,
Speaker 6: you're probably going to have to give him some grace
Speaker 6: for him to get back to that point, right, because
Speaker 6: he's just now coming back. But then you go and
Speaker 6: you trade for Quinn Williams. You know one thing that's
Speaker 6: going to help to Marvey On oversh get that, you know,
Speaker 6: get back to form pretty quick is a little bit.
Speaker 6: It's dropping Quinn Williams right in front of him, right, so,
Speaker 6: you know, for that purpose, for that reason, if if
Speaker 6: for that reason alone, I'm going to say that the
Speaker 6: Quentin Williams trade does slightly edge out the excitement to
Speaker 6: have to Marvey On back.
Speaker 3: But you know, be not mistaken. I am still through
Speaker 3: the roof and over.
Speaker 6: The moon to see to mariyo On overshown back on
Speaker 6: the field, knowing the adversity he's had to overcome yet again.
Speaker 6: But man, this so what do you got with the
Speaker 6: Raiders going against the Raiders? You got the debut of
Speaker 6: Quinn Williams to a lesser but still important degree. You
Speaker 6: got Logan Wilson debut, and you got the return of
Speaker 6: the Marveon over shown possibly the debut of Savone revel.
Speaker 5: This is.
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Speaker 7: Right here, that's the second compliment got Patrick. You got
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Speaker 3: Patrick has a great hat.
Speaker 7: But no, but I'm getting a lot of praise on
Speaker 7: this out. But I've worn this before?
Speaker 2: Have you on the show?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: That's fire.
Speaker 7: You like that fire hat.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I remember. It looks I like it.
Speaker 3: It's sweet.
Speaker 9: I think it's how it compliments the pullover, the fleece pullover.
Speaker 3: That's what it is. I think it just matches the
Speaker 3: handsome squid word aesthetic.
Speaker 2: There's like half of our audience that's probably like, what
Speaker 2: is handsome squid word? Just look at us about to
Speaker 2: pick recycle bens? Yeah no, do you hear beamer?
Speaker 3: He said?
Speaker 2: He said, Josh, you look like you're about to pick
Speaker 2: up my recycled beins out back. Oh wow, that's awful.
Speaker 9: Says the guy that wears a Native American fleece in
Speaker 9: the back.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I don't know any beam coming at me for fashion.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 7: Dude tucks in his polo every day.
Speaker 3: What's wrong with talking at the bowline? God? We're not friends.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, a fashion.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Let's turn it over to Nebby in Silver Spring, Maryland.
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 8: Nebby?
Speaker 5: Hi, guys, thank you so much for taking my call.
Speaker 5: Of course, listen, I have a comment, uh and I
Speaker 5: also have a question. My question is am I crazy
Speaker 5: for believing that despite the fact that our offensive line
Speaker 5: has struggled at times this season? Am I crazy for
Speaker 5: believing that Connor Riley has done a good job so
Speaker 5: far as our offensive line coach?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 2: I I I I.
Speaker 5: My comment is the only way we can make the
Speaker 5: playoffs this season is by winning the NFC East, and
Speaker 5: considering that the Eagles are now three and a half
Speaker 5: games ahead of us, it's gonna be a tall order
Speaker 5: for us to win the NFC East, But of course,
Speaker 5: anything I can happen. Take care, I have a great week.
Speaker 5: Thanks for being patient with me, and I I'm I
Speaker 5: love you guys, Take.
Speaker 2: Care by lovey Nevy, appreciate you man. And what do
Speaker 2: we always say about exactly? And I think his point
Speaker 2: there is valid at the very end, when he's talking
Speaker 2: about Philadelphia being the team to catch in order for
Speaker 2: Dallas to make the playoffs. We talked about that in
Speaker 2: the opening segment, you need two teams from two separate
Speaker 2: divisions to start falling off, or you can just try
Speaker 2: and catch Philadelphia. Their remaining scheduled Detroit, Dallas, Chicago, La Chargers, Vegas, Washington,
Speaker 2: Buffalo on the road, and Washington. So they got Washington
Speaker 2: twice in the final three weeks. That's kind of an interesting,
Speaker 2: unique deal. And then I mean, they could lose to Detroit,
Speaker 2: Dallas could try and help them themselves there. But of
Speaker 2: course that's a game where Philadelphia should be heavily favored.
Speaker 2: Chicago's been playing better football, the Chargers have been playing
Speaker 2: pretty good football. Chargers Raiders are men. And then at Buffalo,
Speaker 2: like Josh Allen's gonna be ramped up by then too.
Speaker 2: So it's possible that the Eagles end up with five
Speaker 2: or six losses in there. That would mean the Dallas
Speaker 2: Cowboys have to run the table yep in order.
Speaker 3: Maybe one more long right, and it can't be the Raider,
Speaker 3: And it can't.
Speaker 6: Be That's where Nibby's point comes in. It's a tall order.
Speaker 6: To quote Nibby, it is in fact a tall order.
Speaker 6: It's so much damage has been done over the first
Speaker 6: half of the season that it requires damn near perfection
Speaker 6: over the remainder of the season, and you're just anything
Speaker 6: is possible, true, but it's so unlikely that you are
Speaker 6: damn near perfect suddenly damn near perfect. Yeah, over the
Speaker 6: remainder of the season. Yes, you're getting you know, five
Speaker 6: up with a five new faces on the defensive side
Speaker 6: of the ball. Yes, your offense is most likely going
Speaker 6: to snap back and get back in their groove. However,
Speaker 6: to play virtually perfect football every single week, that means
Speaker 6: your playoffs start right now.
Speaker 7: Yeah mm hm, and that can't lose another game.
Speaker 6: Right Your playoffs start right now, so to speak. And
Speaker 6: that's a long time to mentally be in that space.
Speaker 6: Every single game is a must win, every single snap.
Speaker 6: And I mean you should have that thought process anyway,
Speaker 6: but realistically speaking, it's it ratchets up.
Speaker 9: Given the sample size of what the team is giving
Speaker 9: you so far, you cannot bank on that happening. You
Speaker 9: really can't. That would just be that would be silly
Speaker 9: to think that way. But I think the one thing
Speaker 9: that you can sort of hang your hat on is
Speaker 9: that this team gets better. This team Galvin and and
Speaker 9: goes forward and plays good football. That's the That's what's
Speaker 9: most important to me right now is playing really well
Speaker 9: and winning these games. Winning the game that's in front
Speaker 9: of you right going one to know each week, and yeah,
Speaker 9: that's all you can really do.
Speaker 2: I don't want to skip over his point, but we
Speaker 2: got to get to our next collar. About the offensive line,
Speaker 2: I think there's been ups and downs with the offensive line,
Speaker 2: but with the revolving door that they've had, I do
Speaker 2: give credit to Connor Riley and to Clayton Adams too
Speaker 2: as the offensive coordinator that has his hands on this
Speaker 2: offensive line.
Speaker 3: I think you're going to start seeing their work.
Speaker 2: Payoff this week or the week after that with better
Speaker 2: offensive line play, I really do. I think the continuity
Speaker 2: upfront is all you've been missing, and now that you've
Speaker 2: got your five guys back, I think it's going to
Speaker 2: start to click a little bit better.
Speaker 9: What they saw in the run game early on in
Speaker 9: the season, even in training camp, is something that I
Speaker 9: didn't necessarily see coming to Fruition, and it has impacted
Speaker 9: the team so far. And you can easily rely on
Speaker 9: this game on this run game. Granted, the coaching staff
Speaker 9: hasn't necessarily done that in play calling scenarios so far
Speaker 9: this season. But at least for me, the stark difference
Speaker 9: between the run game last season versus this season. It's there, man,
Speaker 9: you have to have great confidence in it, and Connor
Speaker 9: Ralli's an incredible job.
Speaker 3: So yeah, real quick to the Conor Riley point.
Speaker 6: I mean, he's also accountable for the offensive line struggles
Speaker 6: over the past couple of games. That being said, he's
Speaker 6: also accountable for we killed. We'll also be credited for
Speaker 6: the running game getting where it was in the first place.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 6: I remember we were sitting here at the same table
Speaker 6: talking about how the Cowboys were down four starters and
Speaker 6: you couldn't tell yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's Connor Riley. Yeah, we did have that conversation.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: Final caller of the day on this talking Tuesday, Brian
Speaker 2: in Kansas City.
Speaker 3: What's going on? Brian?
Speaker 5: Good morning, gentlemen, what's going on?
Speaker 2: Good morning?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 10: You know, I was just thinking about the offensive line also,
Speaker 10: and so glad to hear from Neby today. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 10: I really wanted to know. So I don't think this
Speaker 10: is breaking news that the week point appears to be
Speaker 10: the tackles. Do we have any options because we put
Speaker 10: in Nate Thomas last week and he did not have
Speaker 10: a good showing in the part of the game that
Speaker 10: he got in for. Is there anybody else on the
Speaker 10: roster that you think, hey, maybe this is the person
Speaker 10: that should give us some stability there. I'll hang up
Speaker 10: and listen.
Speaker 8: It's good to talk to you guys today.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you calling. As always, Brian always bring up
Speaker 2: great questions. Here are your tackles on the roster right now,
Speaker 2: Tyler Geiton, Terrence Steelers are your starters, of course, Nate Thomas, Hakeema, Dinergy.
Speaker 2: Would you like me to continue?
Speaker 3: You can't exactly.
Speaker 2: I mean, as Johnny Cordnelius maybe, but he's been mostly
Speaker 2: working at guard throughout the season, may off of your
Speaker 2: practice squad or reserves. I mean, there's not really a
Speaker 2: whole lot there. So I mean, they do have Jiron Christian,
Speaker 2: the undrafted they excuse me, the signee from Cleveland this offseason,
Speaker 2: Christian who was at training camp I believe, or maybe
Speaker 2: right after training camp.
Speaker 3: But there's not a whole lot of option there. And
Speaker 3: we've had the debate.
Speaker 2: I know you and I talked about the Nate Thomas
Speaker 2: performance in a different light. I think you saw it
Speaker 2: as he didn't play well, and he didn't and I agree.
Speaker 2: I thought he was put in a tough situation and
Speaker 2: didn't play well. I don't want to replace Terrence Steele
Speaker 2: quite yet, but if you need to experiment, he's the
Speaker 2: only one that I would be okay with that doing.
Speaker 6: And we talked about this specifically, like you mentioned a
Speaker 6: few episodes ago, episodes ago before the Bowe Week, where
Speaker 6: it's like you as an organization, you have to decide
Speaker 6: what you want to do. What's your future with Terrence Steel. Yeah,
Speaker 6: because if you feel like Nate Thomas might be the
Speaker 6: future at the position, then go ahead and unleash him
Speaker 6: now maybe. But if you believe that you still have
Speaker 6: a future with Terrence Steel and that he can get
Speaker 6: back to form, then you ride that that wave. I
Speaker 6: don't like the waffling, the back and forth right where
Speaker 6: it's just like, okay, well let's start one and if
Speaker 6: he doesn't play well at halftime, we'll swap him out.
Speaker 6: You're ruining the continuity of what Connor Riley's trying to
Speaker 6: do there.
Speaker 3: So pick one, stick with it.
Speaker 6: And I think that they're going to pick Terrence Steel
Speaker 6: and stick with that because you know, I think Nate
Speaker 6: Thomas has a future. I'm not going to say I
Speaker 6: believe Nate Thomas is a Pro Bowl caliber guy, but
Speaker 6: I think he has a future ed potentially being a starter.
Speaker 6: I just don't know that you're going to find that
Speaker 6: out right now?
Speaker 9: Correct me if I'm wrong, Chris Biamer. But is uh
Speaker 9: You're able to get out of Seals contract after this season?
Speaker 3: Correct?
Speaker 2: I think you're right.
Speaker 3: I can take a look here if you like to know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I want to see Nate Thomas.
Speaker 2: Hm, you want to see him at right tackle. I
Speaker 2: do kind of flip him a little bit.
Speaker 3: Okay, that we just don't really have any options.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you need to look at those those you need
Speaker 6: to look at Tyler guy, and you need to look
Speaker 6: at Terrence Steele, and you need to just say, play
Speaker 6: better ball consistently, play better ball more consistently, not just
Speaker 6: in patches or pockets. No pun intended with the pocket thing,
Speaker 6: but you just need to play better ball because a.
Speaker 3: Chem of energy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nate, who's going to be here in the future,
Speaker 2: who's going to be your offensive line?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 6: Don't please gotta go. Don't look at free agency because
Speaker 6: it's not there.
Speaker 2: We asked you a question, Chris Biemer, We'll see you
Speaker 2: next time. Go more talking Cowboys for Patrick nose Walker,
Speaker 2: Josh Guess, Chris Beam in the backup Kyle Yeoman saying
Speaker 2: so long, we'll see you next time.
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