Speaker 1: Native LAMDPOD is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership with
Speaker 1: Reason Choice Media. One of the things that I think
Speaker 1: we all agree on is, you know, making sure that
Speaker 1: Iran doesn't get a nuclear weapon which will destroy and
Speaker 1: disrupt the Middle.
Speaker 2: Lefth I thought he already destroyed those.
Speaker 1: No, he obliterated it. Let's listen to him talk about it,
Speaker 1: and then talk about the fact that we're on the
Speaker 1: precipice of war with Iran.
Speaker 3: As president, I will make peace wherever I can, but
Speaker 3: I will never hesitate to confront threats to America wherever
Speaker 3: we must. That's why, in a breakthrough operation last year,
Speaker 3: the United States military obliterated Iran's nuclear weapons program with
Speaker 3: an attack on a radian soil known as Operation Midnight Hammer.
Speaker 1: So, you know, one of the things that's kind of crazy,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is that we have the most heavy
Speaker 1: artillery that we've had located outside of Iran since two
Speaker 1: thousand and three. There's a military build up much like
Speaker 1: what we saw Inzuela. The question is for what the
Speaker 1: CIA just met with the Gang of Eight recently this week.
Speaker 1: Something is happening in Iran and we don't know what,
Speaker 1: but I thought that we obliterated their nuclear program, So like,
Speaker 1: what exactly are we doing? I think Iran has the
Speaker 1: it has the makings of another rat which is devastating.
Speaker 2: Well, and it.
Speaker 4: Seems all like this is inevitable, which it's not supposed
Speaker 4: to because there's no congressional authorization. There's been no credible
Speaker 4: case being put forth. There's contradicted contradictions in terms of
Speaker 4: we obliterated it, but we don't want them to get it.
Speaker 4: Which one is it? This is pretty serious, and it
Speaker 4: just seems like this president and that idiot Pete Hegseth,
Speaker 4: that degenerate just think this is all fun and games,
Speaker 4: This is all war games for them, when there are
Speaker 4: actual lives at stake here and so this can be
Speaker 4: a multi trillion dollar disaster multiple I mean million, nine millions,
Speaker 4: thousands of lives, tens of thousands of lives. And Donald
Speaker 4: Trump still hasn't solved the other wars, and he claims
Speaker 4: he solved He listed off eight countries and not narrow
Speaker 4: one of them.
Speaker 2: Wars.
Speaker 4: Our conflicts are solved thanks to Donald Trump, and that's
Speaker 4: the This is not America. First, we already have the
Speaker 4: president of Venezuela in New York City facing charts for
Speaker 4: what and nothing has been done that actually needs to
Speaker 4: be done in terms of what's happening in America and
Speaker 4: getting these prices down, getting healthcare, making it affordable, fighting
Speaker 4: climate change. Nothing that actually is a problem is being solved,
Speaker 4: and he's manufacturing all these problems so that he can
Speaker 4: have something to do.
Speaker 2: Recent your point around, there's been no conversation with the
Speaker 2: American people, like I just want to double tap exclamation
Speaker 2: mark that I mean all of many of us. I
Speaker 2: think all of us on here lived through nine eleven,
Speaker 2: two thousand and one, and even having experienced that day
Speaker 2: September eleventh, there was still months loan campaigns by the
Speaker 2: administration to ready the American people for invasion. They had
Speaker 2: to make the case Iraq. They sent this. You know,
Speaker 2: you all remember Colin Power going down to the UN,
Speaker 2: you know, selling that terrible speech full of lies that
Speaker 2: he later admitted to in the administration. Of course, had
Speaker 2: the cop to eventually, But that's what you do when
Speaker 2: you ready a nation for war. Why, because you have
Speaker 2: to ready us for not just the cost financially, but
Speaker 2: of the of the toll on American men and women
Speaker 2: who will be dutiful and being sent to service under
Speaker 2: the belief that they're being sent because the threat to
Speaker 2: America is that great that it will require the lives
Speaker 2: of Americans. In this case, we got none of that.
Speaker 2: This man, as you said, and p they're playing on
Speaker 2: a chess board. Not even that they're playing on a checkerboard, right,
Speaker 2: moving soldiers around on a checkerboard. The repercussions here are huge.
Speaker 2: This is the largest build up since the Wars of
Speaker 2: two thousand and two beyond forward, so larger than what
Speaker 2: happened in Venezuela. And it needs to be why. Because
Speaker 2: Iran is a nation state of over ninety million people.
Speaker 2: This is not gonna be like what you saw.
Speaker 1: And they have they have unique military capability, they have
Speaker 1: unique cyber capability. One of the things Andrew and Angela,
Speaker 1: they get tired of me saying this because I say
Speaker 1: it in every single show. Reci but nothing happens in
Speaker 1: a vacuum, like literally, nothing happens in a vacuum. One
Speaker 1: of the things that we saw. And there are people
Speaker 1: who follow this for a living flight patterns, right. Prime
Speaker 1: Minister Modi, the Prime Minister of India, was actually en
Speaker 1: route landed this morning in Israel, and so you're not
Speaker 1: going to attack Aron with Modi and Israel. That doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily make sense. So you have a couple of days
Speaker 1: before something happens, and you saw him attempt to make
Speaker 1: a case in the State of the Union. Nothing was persuasive,
Speaker 1: and I just it all goes back to the con
Speaker 1: that is Donald Trump. I mean, we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: really examine post his presidency, the con that he got
Speaker 1: poor people to believe that someone who pisses in a
Speaker 1: golden urinal is one of them, and the lies that
Speaker 1: he feeds through the trough, this lie with foreign policy
Speaker 1: is the same thing America first, this nationalism. We're no
Speaker 1: more never ending wars. I'm ending wars. And yet it
Speaker 1: looks like young men and women who don't have the
Speaker 1: last name Trump are going to be the ones fighting
Speaker 1: this battle. And the problem that I have with this
Speaker 1: is not the prevention of Iran getting a nuclear weapon,
Speaker 1: because I am someone who was a big supporter of
Speaker 1: the Iran nuclear deal, and you know what, trust would
Speaker 1: verify they were actually being prevented from having those nuclear capabilities.
Speaker 1: What did Donald Trump do? Rip it up? Now we're
Speaker 1: here one on the precipice of them getting a nuclear weapon,
Speaker 1: two on the precipice of war with Iran, and three
Speaker 1: meaning that when our children get of age in college,
Speaker 1: there is a strong possibility and likelihood that we will
Speaker 1: still maybe not be at war, but still have a
Speaker 1: military presence in Iran. When I thought that the inn
Speaker 1: artful way we got out of Afghanistan finally ended never
Speaker 1: ended wars, and apparently I was wrong, we.
Speaker 2: Thank you this much. I'm gonna predict this. Donald Trump's
Speaker 2: kids are going to be as somebody's negotiating table getting
Speaker 2: all of the winnings for the American people's sacrifice. There's
Speaker 2: no doubt about it. That's been their past and that
Speaker 2: passes prologue. That's one certainty that we will have, regardless
Speaker 2: of this build up war and conflict, heads or tails,
Speaker 2: they gonna be at the negotiating table.
Speaker 1: Getting the griff war creates billionaires. Listen. But one of
Speaker 1: the things that we go ahead reach I know you
Speaker 1: wanted to jump in.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to add one more thing because we
Speaker 4: talked a lot about Trump, But we do have to
Speaker 4: hold the Republicans in Congress accountable. They have completely abdicated
Speaker 4: their role in everything that relates to protecting the American people.
Speaker 4: They are allowing this what appears to be an inevitable
Speaker 4: march towards war with Iran. They don't want to have
Speaker 4: a war powers resolution that Tom Massey and Representative Rocanna
Speaker 4: have put forth. They did nothing when he was when
Speaker 4: he was conducting those illegal bolt strikes off the coast
Speaker 4: of Caribbean. They did nothing when he kidnapped the president
Speaker 4: of Venezuela. They've done nothing on tariffs. Every single time.
Speaker 4: Everything that we've talked about that Donald Trump has done,
Speaker 4: he has done with the full blessing of a neutered
Speaker 4: Republican Congress. And so everybody who is upset with Trump,
Speaker 4: you have the opportunity, and maybe I should save this
Speaker 4: for the Call to Access to do this, to hold
Speaker 4: the people accountable who are there to do a job
Speaker 4: that they refuse to do. And then the one last
Speaker 4: thing I'll say is we have a thirty eight trillion
Speaker 4: dollar national debt, and that is already something that economists
Speaker 4: and all kinds of people are signing the alarm one
Speaker 4: because this big beautiful bill that Angela mentioned is going
Speaker 4: to add trillions to the debt and or to the deficit,
Speaker 4: and now you're talking about a war trillions of dollars,
Speaker 4: and so that is going to make borrowing more expensive
Speaker 4: for everybody. I have to put it in terms that
Speaker 4: people care about, because people don't care about troops dying,
Speaker 4: people don't care about how many people we bomb around
Speaker 4: the world. But when we continue to explode our national debt,
Speaker 4: that makes it harder for the United States to borrow,
Speaker 4: which makes it more expensive for them to borrow, which
Speaker 4: makes it more expensive for us to go and get
Speaker 4: a car loan and get a mortgage. And so this
Speaker 4: has many implications outside of just oh well, it's another war.
Speaker 4: How do we get here? Oh well, I'm going to
Speaker 4: continue to go to brunch or I'm going to continue
Speaker 4: to go to the grocery store like nothing happens. This
Speaker 4: is very very serious. In addition to the human aspect,
Speaker 4: it's very serious in terms of the toll that it
Speaker 4: takes on Americans as well.
Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that we got to
Speaker 1: look forward to, though, is somebody's gonna have to put
Speaker 1: a stop to this, And somebody in twenty twenty eight
Speaker 1: is going to have to kind of change the narrative
Speaker 1: we get we need a refreshing look.
Speaker 2: On the ideas. I'm messing with you.
Speaker 4: Maybe we could talk about it in a cause.
Speaker 2: That's what I heard that. Well, Oh, I thought you
Speaker 2: were going to say the mini maybe talk about Oh
Speaker 2: we did that last we did? We did, we did.
Speaker 4: We're going to talk about bafton the mini ag.
Speaker 2: Yep, you see how I be Oh, we'd be right there.
Speaker 1: I mean, before we get to before we get the
Speaker 1: cause of action. I did want to one of the
Speaker 1: one of the things that that we talked about. We
Speaker 1: have about ten minutes here that we can kind of
Speaker 1: delve a little bit into this topic. But when we
Speaker 1: saw people who have to be formidable to this operation
Speaker 1: that we're seeing from Republicans, the lies that we saw
Speaker 1: all week, we saw Gavin get caught up in the
Speaker 1: cyclical kind of social media space, how do you break through?
Speaker 1: How do you break through with that? And I mean,
Speaker 1: I know we're going to get the CTAs, but my
Speaker 1: question is how do we fight back against Trump? And
Speaker 1: Trump is I'm seeing all the lies, seeing where we are,
Speaker 1: seeing what the political discourse is because after watching that
Speaker 1: State of the Union, I'm absolutely certain that they're at
Speaker 1: least two different Americas and so you know, what do
Speaker 1: we do to break through and make sure that we
Speaker 1: have not only a successful twenty twenty six campaign cycle,
Speaker 1: but twenty twenty eight as well. That's like my big question.
Speaker 2: Divorce ourselves from the belief that things are as they were.
Speaker 2: I mean, the biggest thing that standing in the way
Speaker 2: of democratic leaders, all the strategists who are whispering in
Speaker 2: the ears of these candidates and electeds right now of
Speaker 2: how we've got to, you know, approach this with maturity,
Speaker 2: and we're going to be the folks who, you know,
Speaker 2: steer the wheel back the other direction. Well, we can
Speaker 2: steer the will when we have the will. We don't
Speaker 2: have the will, correct, And so right now, the master showman,
Speaker 2: the con artist himself, was conning last night. And while
Speaker 2: those of us who pay attention and read and follow
Speaker 2: the stuff understand the nuance, you didn't. It didn't take nuance.
Speaker 2: I mean it was flat on the nose, just outright lies.
Speaker 2: But there's a constituency out there. It is a diminishing one,
Speaker 2: but there's a constituency who are going to get what
Speaker 2: they will know about what happened in the state of
Speaker 2: the Union from these little sound bites of Donald Trump
Speaker 2: himself being the showman slash con artists that he is,
Speaker 2: and so we just this is not America of yesteryear.
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure that we can date the change
Speaker 2: to Donald Trump. I think we started to this started
Speaker 2: to slip away before him, but we're not there. And
Speaker 2: the quicker we learned that lesson, then we can get
Speaker 2: about playing on some real turf. But right now I
Speaker 2: just think we're existing far too much in two different worlds.
Speaker 2: You're right, literal different worlds. We're over here being nice
Speaker 2: and polite and and our suits are buttoned up and
Speaker 2: we're in decorum, and then he's eating our lunch, our
Speaker 2: dinner and our meals for our kids the next day.
Speaker 2: That's what it looks like to me. Were losing because
Speaker 2: we because because he went in.
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